Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2820 CWSA 04⧸25⧸25

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00:00:58.900 Yes-siree.

00:01:01.220 Things are looking good.

00:01:03.240 I wonder if there's any sketchy science we can laugh at.

00:01:07.400 Oh, yeah.

00:01:08.180 Here's some.

00:01:09.800 Sketchy science.

00:01:11.980 According to Drexel University, there's a link between proximity to green space,

00:01:19.560 green space, meaning trees, and how healthy your baby is.

00:01:27.400 So, apparently, living near newly planted trees is linked to healthier birth outcomes.

00:01:34.540 Now, do you think that's real?

00:01:39.640 Do you think that they can really measure that?

00:01:42.960 Well, apparently, it was not a randomized, controlled study.

00:01:47.640 Big surprise.

00:01:48.340 But don't you think there are more trees where people have more money?

00:01:55.460 Just generally.

00:01:57.040 I mean, you know, it's not going to apply to Appalachia.

00:02:00.820 But generally speaking, don't you think trees are a bit of a luxury item?

00:02:06.900 Do you have a lot of trees in the porous part of the inner city?

00:02:15.280 No.

00:02:16.920 So, if you even have the wherewithal to plant a tree,

00:02:21.580 or anybody wants to plant a tree near you,

00:02:24.580 probably you're doing better than people who are desperately poor.

00:02:28.500 So, I'm going to say, I do not believe that study.

00:02:34.420 Here's one from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

00:02:38.500 They found that bridging political debates,

00:02:42.440 that's what they were trying to do,

00:02:44.660 they found that giving people factual knowledge about a political topic

00:02:49.420 can make people less polarized.

00:02:56.140 Now, does that surprise you?

00:02:57.360 If you took a citizen, 0.50

00:03:00.700 and let's say two people were on different sides of an issue,

00:03:04.280 but you educated both of them.

00:03:06.900 So, you gave them both the maximum amount of information about the topic.

00:03:12.260 Apparently, the study says that they become less polarized,

00:03:16.520 and they become more reasonable,

00:03:18.840 and they're more, oh, okay, I can see both sides.

00:03:22.860 Here's what I don't trust about it.

00:03:25.020 I'll bet that only works for people who weren't paying attention to politics that much.

00:03:31.480 The people that I, I guess I have the most contact with,

00:03:36.660 are the people who are super partisan.

00:03:38.800 Do you think if you give a super partisan person information that says maybe they're wrong?

00:03:47.760 Do you think it makes them friendlier?

00:03:49.840 I don't think so.

00:03:54.180 I think it just makes them angrier. 1.00

00:03:56.760 Damn it. 1.00

00:03:58.000 You and your information. 1.00

00:03:59.220 So, I think maybe the study is correct,

00:04:03.680 because most people are not paying that much attention to politics and to policies.

00:04:09.000 But I'll bet you the most partisan people get the angriest when they see information that disagrees with them.

00:04:16.760 So, here's one of my favorite stories for the day.

00:04:21.320 So, apparently, Seattle has some kind of a park where there was a lot of nudity. 0.55

00:04:28.160 Like, why would they even have that? 0.92

00:04:30.140 But it was a nudist park, but now it caused so much public masturbation in the nudist park, 0.70

00:04:43.740 the post-millennials reporting on this,

00:04:47.160 that they put on a request for a proposal for what they call

00:04:51.200 for what they call public masturbation deterrent infrastructure

00:04:58.700 as part of a half-million-dollar improvement plan.

00:05:05.300 Now, if you were going to respond to the request for proposals

00:05:11.260 for whatever you believed was a good implementation of a public masturbation deterrent infrastructure,

00:05:21.200 what would you build?

00:05:26.660 Would you just build a big wall?

00:05:29.280 Because it's a park.

00:05:30.740 You can't really have walls around everything, right?

00:05:34.300 So, I don't know how a wall would work.

00:05:37.100 But here's the good news.

00:05:39.760 I think Hillary Clinton is finally going to get that statue she deserves. 1.00

00:05:48.560 That's been cut down on the public masturbation. 0.94

00:05:51.200 Oh, what else is happening?

00:05:56.320 I wasn't going to talk about this story

00:05:58.700 because I don't like the stories about, you know,

00:06:02.640 one element of crime or, you know,

00:06:05.700 some weird thing happened to one person or one family or something.

00:06:10.080 But I guess everybody wants me to talk about this.

00:06:14.360 So, so many people have contacted me about it.

00:06:17.320 It's like, all right, all right, I'll talk about it.

00:06:19.500 So, the Gateway Pundit is reporting on this, among others.

00:06:23.640 So, apparently the FBI has arrested this New Mexico judge who, for reasons we don't totally

00:06:31.740 know yet, was harboring a gang member at the casita behind his house.

00:06:39.020 Now, I guess the guy's wife was using the gang member. 1.00

00:06:43.260 He was one of these Trenda-Aragua guys, Venezuelan gang. 0.97

00:06:47.560 And I guess the wife was using him for, as a handyman.

00:06:53.660 Do you know how much you would need to have a handyman, like really be a handyman if you

00:07:04.300 would take a Trenda-Aragua gang member?

00:07:09.160 However, I feel like, you know, part of the reason I don't like stories like this is that

00:07:14.860 there's always some information that's critical to the understanding of it that's missing.

00:07:22.980 So, I'm just going to take a guess what's really going on.

00:07:26.200 Some of you are going to guess, oh, it's some kind of sexual thing.

00:07:32.220 You know, the wife is, you know, having an affair with him or something.

00:07:36.560 Some of you are going to guess, oh, maybe they're doing some kind of criminal thing together.

00:07:43.820 Some of you are going to guess, maybe he was just a do-gooder.

00:07:50.980 And he thought, okay, you're a member of a gang, but maybe if I give you a place to live

00:07:55.600 and, you know, some money from some handyman work, you know, maybe you can straighten your

00:08:01.540 life out.

00:08:02.560 Maybe.

00:08:03.560 Maybe one of those things.

00:08:05.180 But do you know what I think it is?

00:08:07.760 I think the wife was angry at her husband because she's not good at fixing things 1.00

00:08:13.640 around the house.

00:08:17.440 And so, she said, all right, if you're not going to fix things around the house, I'm

00:08:22.800 going to guess somebody who will.

00:08:26.700 And that the whole thing, the whole thing is driven by the wife being really pissed off 0.94

00:08:32.520 at her husband because the husband doesn't fix stuff around the house. 1.00

00:08:36.280 So, she got a Trinda Aragua gang member to live at the house to fix stuff up. 1.00

00:08:43.640 So, that's just my guess.

00:08:46.040 I don't know what's really going on there, but apparently the FBI has arrested him.

00:08:53.440 All right.

00:08:54.220 This is funny, too.

00:08:56.400 According to CBS News, something like one in four remote job applications, because I guess

00:09:04.020 a lot of job interviews are being done remotely now by Zoom or whatever.

00:09:08.260 Apparently, there's a lot of scammers using artificial intelligence to pretend to be somebody that

00:09:16.900 they're not so they can be a fake person who gets a job.

00:09:22.460 And then once they get the job, they might be scammers or hackers or looking to sell information

00:09:29.440 or something.

00:09:30.000 But basically, apparently in one case, somebody was interviewing somebody live and suspected

00:09:39.740 that they might be AI, the actual image of the person on the screen.

00:09:45.520 And so, the interviewer challenged the person to put their hand in front of their face because

00:09:51.720 that would be a little bit hard for AI to keep that clear.

00:09:55.720 And the person refused to do it, so they didn't get the job.

00:10:01.420 But, you know, when I read about this, I thought to myself, well, there's a week of Dilbert

00:10:07.500 comics that just wrote themselves.

00:10:10.440 Because I can imagine Wally applying for hundreds of different jobs as an AI.

00:10:18.260 He would be the richest person in the company.

00:10:20.480 Stop wondering.

00:10:48.180 Start winning.

00:10:48.760 Winners find fabulous for less.

00:10:52.300 Well, in other news, apparently the National Archives, the U.S. National Archives, has put

00:10:58.860 up a website where you can see what they would claim to be all of their UFO and UAP information.

00:11:07.380 So, it would show all the documents and the videos of alleged UAPs and all that.

00:11:15.900 Now, does that tell you that maybe the UAPs and the UFOs are real?

00:11:21.200 Because the National Archives put up a webpage dedicated to what they know? 0.99

00:11:25.620 Or, does it look like a steaming pile of bullshit like it always has? 0.99

00:11:35.720 So, I'm still waiting. 1.00

00:11:37.340 I'm still waiting for the video of the captured UFOs and the dead aliens.

00:11:43.640 I think they're keeping them under the pyramids with those gigantic structures that they found

00:11:51.960 under the pyramids.

00:11:53.460 No?

00:11:53.980 All right.

00:11:56.760 I love fake news.

00:11:58.820 All right.

00:11:59.140 Let's give you an update on self-driving cabs.

00:12:03.860 Now, you might know that a company called Waymo already has a very fast-growing business of

00:12:12.500 driverless cars in just a certain city, San Francisco and Austin and some other cities.

00:12:20.140 And you can already use them.

00:12:22.320 So, you can use your app and a driverless car will pull up and you can take your little

00:12:28.900 driverless taxi somewhere.

00:12:30.500 And apparently, it's doing pretty well.

00:12:35.300 Waymo is providing nearly, according to Sawyer Merritt, I saw this on a post on X.

00:12:43.140 And so, they're already doing almost 36,000 paid robo-taxi trips per day.

00:12:50.180 Per day.

00:12:52.140 36,000.

00:12:54.400 Per day.

00:12:55.760 That's a pretty robust business.

00:12:57.900 So, and according to the whole Mars catalog account, Waymo rides per day just grew 30% in

00:13:07.020 less than two months.

00:13:08.780 So, I only know one person who actually used a Waymo and was very happy with it.

00:13:16.960 It was a totally good experience.

00:13:18.940 But, not to be outdone, Tesla, of course, is going to be launching their version of the auto cab.

00:13:28.320 And on top of that, you could use an app to turn your personal Tesla into a cab.

00:13:37.760 So, all you do is park it on the street and turn on your app.

00:13:42.840 And I guess anybody can summon your car to drive itself to them and give them a taxi ride with no driver.

00:13:49.840 But, according to Elon Musk, he says the Teslas probably cost a quarter or 20% of what a Waymo costs.

00:14:01.240 And the Teslas are made in very high volume.

00:14:04.760 And so, Elon says that I don't see anyone being able to compete with Tesla at present.

00:14:09.360 Well, at the moment, Waymo is way ahead because they just started earlier.

00:14:15.900 But I do see Tesla kind of just owning that market pretty quickly.

00:14:23.700 Now, it's a really weird time for Tesla, isn't it?

00:14:27.680 Because, on one hand, because of Doge and Trump and all that,

00:14:32.480 Elon Musk is at his lowest popularity, as is Tesla, the company, because the lefties are rejecting it.

00:14:42.580 But it's the weirdest time in history for that to be happening

00:14:46.220 because their product offerings are unbelievably strong,

00:14:53.200 like incredibly, ridiculously, historically strong.

00:14:58.380 So, these auto cabs, I think, are going to be a really big deal.

00:15:03.240 The full self-driving feature within the Teslas, nobody comes close.

00:15:10.340 And they're a really big deal.

00:15:13.060 And then you've got the Tesla robots coming.

00:15:19.240 And the robots are going to be maybe the biggest deal of all time.

00:15:23.820 And at the same time, Tesla is doing, I guess, the best job of being a mostly American-made car.

00:15:30.920 And they even have the ability to make the batteries for, I think, the Model 3 and the Y.

00:15:37.900 They can do it entirely in the United States.

00:15:40.280 So, if you were to look at, you know, Tesla's efficiency, you know, what they can build,

00:15:48.420 how fast they can build it, the quality of the products,

00:15:51.720 how well those products meet the obvious needs of the public, it's unbelievable.

00:15:58.380 Like, it's never been better.

00:16:01.180 I've never seen any company who had more upside potential than what Tesla has right now.

00:16:09.060 But the only drag it has is that people have a, you know, a politically bad feeling about it.

00:16:17.000 My guess, and this is hard to predict, but my guess is this will not be a permanent stain.

00:16:23.820 I think all it will take is for Elon to pull back from politics a little bit, focus on the products.

00:16:32.920 Maybe one year goes by, you know, it might be one year more of depressed sales.

00:16:39.160 But you put a few Democrats in the self-driving car, or a few Democrats, you know, rent a Tesla,

00:16:49.080 or they just experience the Model Y.

00:16:52.100 I don't know that they go back.

00:16:55.620 You know, I'll use that same analogy about Apple computers and IBM computers way back when they were competing.

00:17:03.560 And Apple used to say that nobody goes from IBM to Apple.

00:17:09.220 No, nobody goes from Apple to IBM.

00:17:12.100 But a lot of people will go from their IBM computer to an Apple and stay there.

00:17:18.360 And if you live or work in Silicon Valley, and you are in any kind of a, let's say, a technical environment or a technical company,

00:17:30.020 it's 100% Apple laptops.

00:17:32.040 So, that was very predictive of where that market was going to go.

00:17:38.300 People only went one direction.

00:17:40.480 Same with smartphones.

00:17:44.200 Except for some senior citizens, when people moved to a smartphone, they weren't really thinking of moving back.

00:17:51.440 You know, even though the smartphone was terrible when it first launched.

00:17:55.840 It was just terrible.

00:17:57.260 It was just, it was barely a phone.

00:17:59.880 And you still couldn't go back.

00:18:01.940 So, I think the Tesla is in that same category where you just have to be exposed to it. 0.99

00:18:07.960 And you're like, ah, damn it. 0.98

00:18:09.680 Can't go back. 0.98

00:18:10.420 Meanwhile, to make that whole self-driving car thing work better, I guess, Secretary Duffy, Transportation Secretary,

00:18:21.440 working with the Trump administration, is looking to lower the regulatory barriers for self-driving cars.

00:18:31.040 And one of the big problems is that each of the states might have their own standards.

00:18:36.520 And it would just be too hard to, you know, do business.

00:18:40.320 So, they're looking to make one national standard for what is acceptable for self-driving cars

00:18:47.680 and to make it not so onerous that you can't meet the standard.

00:18:52.420 So, that seems to me like a really good thing.

00:18:56.060 Now, obviously, the critics are going to say,

00:18:59.160 oh, Trump is just doing that for his friend Elon Musk.

00:19:03.780 To which I say, what part of that don't you want?

00:19:08.560 You don't want a federal single standard for self-driving cars?

00:19:13.480 Isn't that what you want?

00:19:16.080 Forget about what Elon Musk wants.

00:19:18.440 I'm sure he wants that.

00:19:20.200 But don't you think Waymo wants that too?

00:19:24.020 Don't you think every car company that's looking at self-driving cars,

00:19:28.920 which is probably all of them at this point,

00:19:31.560 don't you think they all want it?

00:19:33.780 Don't you think every single consumer wants that?

00:19:37.900 So, yes, it could be that Elon Musk's, you know,

00:19:44.040 his attachment to the current administration might have made it more likely.

00:19:48.600 But we all want it.

00:19:50.340 It's not like it's just for him.

00:19:51.700 Well, the Agricultural Secretary, Brooke Rollins, says that they're no longer going to be given billions of dollars to illegal aliens for food.

00:20:05.180 And from now on, they're going to have to show their ID and prove their citizens to get their, what is it?

00:20:15.440 Some kind of food product they can get if they're poor.

00:20:19.360 And they'll have to be checked against the Social Security numbers of the death master file.

00:20:27.620 That's a pretty ominous file.

00:20:30.200 The death master file.

00:20:31.820 So I guess that says if you're alive or dead, because I guess we're feeding a lot of people who, at least on paper, are dead.

00:20:40.360 So that seems like a move in the right direction.

00:20:45.560 Every time it becomes a little bit harder to be a non-citizen who's here illegally and using our money to live, that's probably good. 1.00

00:20:55.940 So good for them.

00:20:58.480 Claudia was leaving for her pickleball tournament.

00:21:00.680 I've been visualizing my match all week.

00:21:03.100 She was so focused on visualizing that she didn't see the column behind her car on her backhand side.

00:21:08.160 Good thing Claudia's with Intact, the insurer with the largest network of auto service centers in the country.

00:21:14.920 Everything was taken care of under one roof, and she was on her way in a rental car in no time.

00:21:19.380 I made it to my tournament and lost in the first round.

00:21:22.840 But you got there on time.

00:21:24.700 Intact Insurance, your auto service ace.

00:21:27.320 Certain conditions apply.

00:21:29.080 Did you hear the fake news about the so-called makeup room in the Pentagon?

00:21:34.380 Now, I guess because P. Hegseth was a TV guy, and he's a good-looking TV guy, CBS News came up with a story that's been debunked that the Hegseth had ordered a makeup room to be built in the Pentagon, a makeup room.

00:21:55.480 Now, I have two things to say about this.

00:22:00.200 Number one, it's been debunked.

00:22:02.480 If you saw a picture of what it was, all they did is add a chair and a mirror to the green room.

00:22:09.820 I guess they already had a green room for their media hits.

00:22:15.060 So no, there were no lights.

00:22:17.280 There was no makeup.

00:22:18.040 It was just sort of a mirror that people could look in before they went in public.

00:22:24.160 But I would add the following.

00:22:27.980 What would be wrong with the Pentagon putting a makeup room in the Pentagon?

00:22:33.080 What would be wrong with that?

00:22:35.760 If it's true that they do a lot of their work on camera, you know, not just for the news hits, of which there are a lot of them, but maybe even talking to other countries.

00:22:45.780 The makeup is just part of the process.

00:22:51.080 If you tell me that there are high-level, you know, military or government people who are going to be talking to anybody, you know, somebody in another country, foreign leader, the public, I don't care who they're talking to.

00:23:05.780 A makeup room is exactly what you need. 0.98

00:23:08.980 So it's the dumbest story. 0.96

00:23:10.680 It's fake news, which is sort of seemingly designed to embarrass Pete Hegseth. 0.98

00:23:18.220 And so it's easily debunked because they just show you a picture of what it is and you go, oh, that looks like just a mirror on a wall.

00:23:26.560 So that's not much of a makeup room.

00:23:29.000 Even though probably use it, people probably do use it to make sure they look okay before they go on camera.

00:23:34.640 But let's be real.

00:23:37.080 A makeup room in 2025, it's exactly what you need.

00:23:43.000 So if Pete Hegseth has not yet ordered a makeup room for the Pentagon, why not?

00:23:50.860 It's exactly what you should be doing because it helps the whole presentation.

00:23:56.480 That would be like saying, you know, don't wear a nice suit.

00:24:01.320 There are things you do when you're going to be on camera to certain audiences to make it better, better in every way. 0.82

00:24:10.880 So it's just the dumbest fake news of all time because if it were true, it would just be smart. 0.69

00:24:17.300 But it wasn't true. 1.00

00:24:19.760 It's like doubly dumb. 0.98

00:24:21.200 Well, you've heard of Act Blue. 0.99

00:24:26.220 That's the Democrat organization that collects, allegedly, very small donations from lots of different people and then donates it to various Democrat campaigns.

00:24:39.600 But the accusations are that they're not doing that so much.

00:24:46.780 Well, they are doing that.

00:24:48.320 But that a lot of their donations are fake, meaning it's not really small donations from individuals, but they simply pretend they're getting small donations from individuals.

00:25:01.120 But maybe they're getting big donations from we don't know who could be foreign, could be some big donors.

00:25:10.000 And then they just pretend that they came from individuals.

00:25:14.300 Here's one example.

00:25:16.200 Matt Van Swal, he found out that at least on paper, he's made many donations in Kansas to Act Blue.

00:25:26.160 However, he's never been to Kansas and he's never made a donation to Act Blue.

00:25:32.440 So unless there's somebody with the same name, which is a bit unusual, they're pretending that he's made a lot of donations.

00:25:43.140 Now, you've probably seen some news stories where people will go to the house of somebody who allegedly made thousands of dollars of donations

00:25:50.580 and some retired person who's never made any donations to anybody and you say to yourself, oh, well, I think we were on to your game.

00:26:01.820 Well, so in related news, Trump has requested the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, to investigate Act Blue

00:26:11.400 and find out if they're doing illegal straw donors, which is what I just described. 0.89

00:26:17.440 And are they foreign contributions, which would make it even worse?

00:26:23.300 It would be illegal, whether it's foreign or not, to pretend that they're getting small donations

00:26:29.900 when it's really big donations they're pretending are small donations.

00:26:34.100 But according to Elon Musk, he said on a post, Act Blue is guilty of widespread criminal identity theft.

00:26:42.400 So that would be when they pretend the donations are coming from citizens and those citizens have no idea that their names have been used.

00:26:51.900 Let me tell you what I expect from that investigation.

00:26:56.260 Nothing.

00:26:56.900 I'm so beaten down by the idea that anybody's ever going to get arrested for anything, no matter how obvious the crime,

00:27:08.120 no matter how much alleged Department of Justice or FBI attention it's getting.

00:27:14.680 I don't expect anybody to be arrested for the Epstein stuff, the Russia collusion stuff, all the lawfare against Trump,

00:27:23.600 the Biden crime family.

00:27:27.980 I just don't think anybody's getting arrested for anything.

00:27:32.240 I don't exactly know why.

00:27:35.220 Don't exactly know why.

00:27:36.980 But it's hard not to notice the pattern, right?

00:27:42.300 Wouldn't you expect a whole bunch of people to get arrested for a whole bunch of things?

00:27:48.860 I feel like we're continually presented with, at least publicly, evidence of major crimes all through the government.

00:27:58.560 And then there's always somebody looking into it.

00:28:01.500 And then nothing happens.

00:28:02.960 So whatever is happening behind the scenes, it's pretty strong.

00:28:10.200 So I have no reason to think it's going to stop.

00:28:13.880 I just don't think anything will happen.

00:28:16.320 Here's another example of badness happening right in front of you.

00:28:20.020 So as you know, Letitia James, who law-affared Trump, she decided that she would go after him and she'd find something that was a crime.

00:28:28.660 And then she found that he had represented his properties as more valuable than they were to the banks that made a loan to him.

00:28:39.900 Now, the banks, of course, didn't care about that at all because they do their own investigation of how much a property is worth.

00:28:46.680 They don't rely on the customer to tell them.

00:28:49.700 They ignore that completely.

00:28:51.360 And they were happy with the loans.

00:28:54.380 The loans were paid back.

00:28:56.180 Nobody lost anything.

00:28:57.460 And it was the most common thing in real estate.

00:29:00.640 Somebody exaggerated the value of their property, but it didn't make any difference because the lenders know everybody does that.

00:29:08.020 So it turns out, as Bill Pulte discovered, that Letitia James had done some sketchy things with some of her own real estate, including saying that she was a resident of another state because she had property in another state outside of New York.

00:29:27.380 And also saying that one of her properties had four units instead of five because that gave her some kind of advantage as well. 1.00

00:29:36.020 And then there's some kind of insurance-related thing that I don't understand.

00:29:40.600 So she's being accused somewhat credibly because this is based on just documents.

00:29:47.220 And, you know, the documents are pretty clear.

00:29:51.520 So, you know, there's not much doubt about what happened.

00:29:57.660 And there's not much doubt that it would be illegal.

00:30:01.000 So she's in a lot of trouble.

00:30:03.300 And one of the things about lawfare, or in this case, revenge for lawfare, is that even if you don't go to jail, it's going to cost you a lot of money to defend yourself.

00:30:14.520 Now, that's what she was trying to do to Trump.

00:30:17.640 She was trying to either, you know, use up his money on legal cases or use up all his time or put him in jail, whatever she could get. 1.00

00:30:27.080 But here's the update.

00:30:29.880 Apparently, the state of New York is going to pay for her legal defense. 0.99

00:30:36.240 So this is something these real estate transactions she's accused of had nothing to do with her professional job.

00:30:44.520 So why would the state of New York pay for her attorney, who, by the way, was Hunter Biden's lawyer, too, and a guy named Abby Lowell?

00:30:59.720 So he's a well-known, high-powered lawyer.

00:31:01.900 Why would the state of New York pay for her legal defense?

00:31:06.420 Well, their argument is that she would not be accused of these crimes had she not accused Trump of crimes.

00:31:17.800 And therefore, it's all part of her professional work as a person who accuses people of crimes.

00:31:24.920 Because, you know, she's attorney general. 1.00

00:31:28.120 So apparently that thin connection was enough for her to get her legal costs paid for by the state. 0.99

00:31:40.580 Wouldn't you love to be a taxpayer in your state and know that you're paying for Hunter Biden's old lawyer to defend your attorney general,

00:31:53.060 who had tried to lawfare a president and, you know, change the government of the United States and was guilty of the same crimes?

00:32:03.980 And you're paying for it because you're a taxpayer.

00:32:08.500 Unbelievable, but true.

00:32:10.900 So here's something that could have been predicted.

00:32:18.120 I don't know if I ever did, but I'll just describe it now.

00:32:22.360 Generally speaking, Democrats were pushing the idea that everybody is unique and special.

00:32:30.020 And because of intersectionality, you know, you might be a black lesbian woman and I might be a disabled Hispanic man.

00:32:41.240 And but everybody was an individual.

00:32:44.380 And so they would celebrate what made people different.

00:32:48.020 It was all about being different.

00:32:50.660 Whereas Republicans, and here's where you can fact check me.

00:32:54.860 So I'm just spitballing here.

00:32:56.980 Republicans tend to celebrate what they have in common.

00:33:01.380 So Republicans would say, yeah, 4th of July, we're all Americans.

00:33:06.000 That's what we have in common.

00:33:08.500 They would try to get everybody to speak English as their first language.

00:33:13.780 So we got lots of stuff in common.

00:33:15.940 They would talk about, you know, not just a nation, but family and God.

00:33:22.520 And they'd say, oh, you're religious.

00:33:24.940 I'm religious, too.

00:33:26.020 Let's all be religious.

00:33:27.560 And we'll have lots in common.

00:33:30.660 So if you were to fast forward that and say those are two philosophies.

00:33:37.340 One is celebrating how you're different.

00:33:40.820 And the other is celebrating.

00:33:42.220 And of course, celebrating how you're different also gives you reason to complain about the other.

00:33:48.160 Wait a minute.

00:33:48.760 But you different people are getting extra benefits from the government. 0.99

00:33:53.160 I hate you.

00:33:54.560 So here we are with the Democrats tearing each other apart after losing the last election. 0.95

00:34:03.000 So we've already seen prominent Democrats like Bill Maher or Stephen A.

00:34:08.340 Smith, James Carville, who are attacking the progressive, crazy part of their party.

00:34:15.420 But now we're seeing that Michelle Obama is going on a podcast.

00:34:21.260 And apparently she was just revealing, as Jesse Waters was telling us, that Michelle and Barack Obama were at one point in couples counseling.

00:34:31.940 Like, why would you say that on your podcast?

00:34:36.840 That just seems like so wrong.

00:34:40.800 Now, if she were just an ordinary citizen, I'd say, well, you know, it's up to her.

00:34:45.300 But given that they're a political family, you know, prominent Democrats, just feels like a little bit of an attack on, you know, a family member.

00:34:57.660 And then we see the head of the DNC, DNC chairman, Ken Martin.

00:35:04.200 He went on Fox News to complain about his co-whatever he is.

00:35:10.660 He's the co-chairman, I guess.

00:35:12.940 David Hogg.

00:35:13.660 So now the head of the DNC is complaining about his co-chairman who wants to primary a bunch of ineffective Democrats, which is not really the job of the people who are in charge of the DNC.

00:35:28.640 It's their job to get as many Democrats elected as possible.

00:35:32.740 So they're fighting each other.

00:35:37.480 It seems like everywhere you see Democrats now, it's pretty much they're having a battle internally.

00:35:45.020 So that whole philosophy of we're all different and, you know, we can think differently and act differently, I think it's just tearing them apart.

00:35:55.880 And the Republicans have always been good at let's find out what we have in common and let's work on that.

00:36:03.920 And that works really well and has for years.

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00:37:08.080 According to Paul Sperry, I think he's got some inside sources, they say that Adam Goldman of the New York Times, who at one point won a Pulitzer for his covering of the Russia collusion hoax, which he did not cover as a hoax, rather he covered it as though it were real.

00:37:31.560 He says that Adam Goldman is working with Comey's old Crossfire crew to sabotage Kash Patel and Dan Bongino at the FBI headquarters.

00:37:47.660 And that's to, you know, allegedly guard his Russia gay Pulitzer. 0.77

00:37:51.200 I don't know that we can read his mind.

00:37:55.080 And then just as background, Adam Goldman's wife is an ex-top CNN producer named Allison Hoffman.

00:38:04.680 And she was, well, pushed out.

00:38:07.460 I guess we don't know the details of that.

00:38:09.080 But she left CNN over having an anti-Trump bias.

00:38:13.420 So that's your legitimate news organization.

00:38:20.880 That's pretty sketchy.

00:38:21.980 Now, these are allegations.

00:38:23.380 I don't know how much of this you could know to be true.

00:38:26.180 So it's based on insiders that we don't know.

00:38:29.460 So that would be the lowest level, the lowest level of credibility.

00:38:35.640 So the only thing I know for sure is that I spent an afternoon with Adam Goldman many years ago when Dilbert was sort of at its peak.

00:38:46.700 So he was doing a story about Dilbert.

00:38:49.620 And I had a pool table in my office at the time.

00:38:53.080 And I was not used to losing a pool because if you have a pool table and you've had one for years, you don't really lose a pool. 1.00

00:39:04.080 But he kicked my ass so hard. 0.99

00:39:07.580 Damn, he's just the best pool player I've ever seen, I think, for, you know, a regular person. 1.00

00:39:13.240 So great pool player. 0.99

00:39:14.720 That's the only thing I know about him for sure.

00:39:16.680 Everything else is a rumor.

00:39:18.460 So I can't say for sure if any of that's true.

00:39:23.080 Well, Trump is stirring the pot again.

00:39:26.020 And I guess he's listed some hats on his website that say Trump 2028.

00:39:34.660 Now, of course, that's provocative.

00:39:37.600 My understanding is that it's on a Trump merchandise website as opposed to a campaign or political website.

00:39:46.120 If he had put it on a political website, it would be even more inflammatory.

00:39:53.620 But by putting it on just the Trump website, it kind of just removes it a little bit from, are you serious?

00:40:01.940 I can't tell if you're trolling us now.

00:40:04.900 Are you trolling us or are you serious?

00:40:07.800 And the fact that we don't know is just perfect.

00:40:14.860 I love the fact that we can't tell if he's serious.

00:40:18.220 You know, at first they used to annoy me.

00:40:20.460 And I thought, you're just playing into their hands of looking like a dictator by saying that you're not going to leave office.

00:40:26.960 And then I started thinking, okay, it is kind of funny.

00:40:32.040 It is kind of funny.

00:40:33.200 I'm not in favor of him having a third term, just to be clear.

00:40:37.240 I'm definitely not in favor of that.

00:40:39.700 But it is very funny that he has a Trump 2028 hat.

00:40:43.860 That part I can't hate.

00:40:46.340 Well, Trump says he's going to meet with a writer for The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg.

00:40:56.120 Do you recognize that name?

00:40:58.620 So Jeffrey Goldberg is famous for what Trump calls pushing some hoaxes.

00:41:06.100 And he is also famous for being the person who was accidentally added to the signal gate messages that Hegseth and others were on.

00:41:17.020 So why in the world would Trump meet with a writer for The Atlantic when The Atlantic is probably the single most anti-Trump hoax bringing entity that you've ever seen in your life?

00:41:33.900 I mean, I think they barely even pretend to be anything else, but just a Trump-hating vehicle.

00:41:42.760 Why would he say yes and then go spend time with him and do an interview?

00:41:48.540 I have a theory.

00:41:51.000 I think he's bringing the wrecking ball to The Atlantic, and he's going to try to end them once and for all.

00:41:56.760 Well, something tells me that the tenor of the conversation will not be all polite. 1.00

00:42:06.000 And that Trump is just going to absolutely fucking unload on this asshole. 1.00

00:42:10.420 And then it's going to put Goldberg in the weird position of not knowing how much to report, because a lot of the reporting will be Trump saying The Atlantic is a piece of shit. 1.00

00:42:24.060 You're a lying reporter. 1.00

00:42:26.240 It's all fake news. 0.98

00:42:27.400 And if he just keeps at it for like an hour, what else is Goldberg going to write?

00:42:34.960 He won't have anything to write except how disreputable his own organization and he is.

00:42:43.540 So I think Trump is taking a calculated risk that he can actually just destroy The Atlantic and Jeffrey Goldberg at the same time.

00:42:54.040 So if I were Jeffrey Goldberg, I'd be a little bit worried about the incoming wrecking ball.

00:43:03.000 Trump signed a bunch of executive orders, of course, because he always does.

00:43:07.460 According to the college fix, one of them involves college accreditation.

00:43:16.200 Now, I always wondered, who is it who gets to accredit a college and say, you're a proper college?

00:43:24.780 Like, what makes any entity the one qualified to say that somebody else is accredited?

00:43:31.660 I always wondered about that.

00:43:33.600 But what Trump's executive order is about is he's going to reform that college accreditation process.

00:43:41.620 And he's going to target efforts to boost intellectual diversity as opposed to racial diversity and equity and inclusion.

00:43:52.620 So apparently it will be harder to get accredited if you're pushing DEI and easier to be accredited if you're pushing merit, is my guess.

00:44:04.820 And this might involve new accreditation organizations that might be created as a result of the order.

00:44:13.200 Now, was there something that was preventing some entity from saying, I'll be an accreditation organization?

00:44:22.940 There must have been something preventing new ones from being established, and maybe this executive order loosens that up.

00:44:30.800 But I feel like that's good news.

00:44:33.340 Trump also made some news with an executive order to rescind LBJ's executive orders on what's called disparate impact.

00:44:47.320 And the idea of it is that if there were different outcomes for different groups, that would be enough to prove that discrimination was in play.

00:45:10.800 Can you even believe that that was ever a thing, that if there were different outcomes, it proves discrimination?

00:45:22.980 The problem is there's always the different outcomes.

00:45:27.960 There's almost nothing you could do.

00:45:30.620 No sport, no intellectual endeavor, no career endeavor.

00:45:37.140 However, there's almost nothing that every demographic group performs the same.

00:45:45.320 Now, we don't need to get into the reasons why there's a difference, but we've never, ever had a situation where all the groups perform the same on anything.

00:45:54.960 On anything.

00:45:57.200 So that seemed like it was just the worst thing you could ever use as like an operating system for your country.

00:46:04.080 That if people had different outcomes, there must be some discrimination and they have to go fix it or somebody could sue you for it.

00:46:12.360 So looks like it was just another anti-white man law.

00:46:17.460 And Trump, to his credit, rescinded it.

00:46:22.400 I didn't even know it was a problem, but I'm glad he got rid of it.

00:46:26.380 Well, apparently, according to the post-millennial, military recruitment is surging under P.A.G. Seth's defense secretary role.

00:46:43.140 Every branch of the military has surpassed their goals for recruitment.

00:46:48.640 Do you remember when that was just a giant problem?

00:46:52.120 Apparently, the problems were just as obvious as you thought.

00:46:55.560 But the people who wanted to be soldiers, wanted to be in the military, were not the same people who loved all the wokeness.

00:47:04.640 So if he said, you can be a soldier, but, you know, you have to be super woke.

00:47:10.680 And if you're a white man, you know, we're going to hold you back because we got to get some more non-white men in there. 1.00

00:47:17.080 Why would you ever join the military if you were a white man? 0.92

00:47:24.060 So I don't know what the mix is of who it is who's joining the military.

00:47:28.840 But apparently they're going wild, and I don't know that they've done anything special except get rid of the rules that shouldn't have been there in the first place, which is it's not about DEI.

00:47:42.960 It's about being lethal, and it's about winning wars.

00:47:46.520 So that's sort of a small part of the world, but it certainly suggests something healthy happening because recruitment in all the – the fact that it's in all the service branches tells you that it's something they're doing right.

00:48:08.620 But it's probably not just some coincidence.

00:48:27.220 Well, you know the problem of the – what I'll call the constitutional crisis of all these federal district judges blocking Trump's –

00:48:38.600 you know, national efforts.

00:48:40.720 Well, here's another one.

00:48:43.720 So this one is, federal judges blocked Trump from requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote.

00:48:54.360 Now, why?

00:48:57.320 Why would they block that?

00:48:59.660 Well, it's just anti-Trump.

00:49:01.620 And, you know, I mean, it just looks like it's nothing but an anti-Trump thing.

00:49:11.260 So that's happening.

00:49:14.460 I would call that a constitutional crisis.

00:49:17.200 And then Trump had tried to pull the funding from sanctuary cities.

00:49:22.480 And guess what?

00:49:23.720 There's another federal judge who blocked that and said, you can't stop funding these sanctuary cities.

00:49:30.720 What do we know about this judge?

00:49:34.680 Well, apparently this judge, this Judge William Oreck, who says you can't stop funding the sanctuary cities,

00:49:44.000 he's a huge Democrat Party supporter.

00:49:48.540 And he donated a lot to Democratic candidates, including Obama, Kerry, and both Clintons.

00:49:57.280 And he chaired committees to elect them and introduced – he even introduced Kamala Harris at a campaign event.

00:50:04.220 So he's not just political.

00:50:06.320 He is really political.

00:50:08.500 And he's a Democrat.

00:50:09.380 And then he did something that, to me, is a constitutional crisis because he seems to be violating the powers of the presidency from the wrong chair.

00:50:21.420 So we'll see what happens with that.

00:50:24.140 So, according to Breitbart, in the last 24 hours, judges have ordered the Trump administration to bring back another illegal alien from El Salvador.

00:50:36.860 I haven't talked about that, but that's happening.

00:50:39.660 Restore funds to schools practicing DEI.

00:50:43.260 Restore funds to sanctuary cities.

00:50:45.780 And drop a proof of citizenship mandate for voter registration.

00:50:50.500 So, isn't that a constitutional crisis?

00:50:56.040 Because these federal district judges are essentially usurping the power of the presidency.

00:51:05.920 So, yes.

00:51:07.660 But on the positive side, Daryl Issa introduced a bill that I think has already passed the House

00:51:14.920 that would prevent these district judges from doing this kind of stuff. 1.00

00:51:21.960 And I guess we're going to the Senate, which is likely to pass it, and it would limit judges to their own district or domain.

00:51:30.900 So we'll see if that happens.

00:51:33.160 So there could be a big fix coming.

00:51:36.560 That would be just – imagine how big a change that would be.

00:51:39.460 I feel like every story I talk about that has any impact at all is followed up with,

00:51:46.940 and the district judge says you have to put it all back in the box.

00:51:51.960 And the district judge blocked it.

00:51:54.640 And the district judge, you know, what if that ended?

00:51:59.100 Wall Street Apes is talking about a story that's in the news of a financial manager for the Army

00:52:10.000 set up a fake NGO, non-government organization.

00:52:16.000 And it had some kind of name, you know, some kind of fake children's charity name.

00:52:21.040 And then I guess she was in charge of deciding who gets funded. 1.00

00:52:27.300 And so she funded from taxpayer money, from the military.

00:52:32.760 She funded her own fake NGO to the tune of $108 million over several years.

00:52:40.420 She bought 31 homes and 80 vehicles.

00:52:43.940 This is all just stolen taxpayer money.

00:52:46.380 And apparently there was no auditing.

00:52:52.920 She got away with it for years.

00:52:55.760 Now, do you think she's the only person who thought of that?

00:53:00.300 Wait a minute.

00:53:01.100 I could just set up a fake NGO and give it a good-sounding name.

00:53:04.800 And if I start getting money, nobody's even going to check.

00:53:08.000 There's no auditing.

00:53:08.980 There's no nothing.

00:53:09.740 I could do this for years.

00:53:10.920 My assumption is that if she could do this this easily and get away with it for so long, 0.89

00:53:19.420 and there are now tens of thousands of NGOs, I don't know that they're all this illegal,

00:53:27.080 you know, because maybe you just pretend you're doing something useful and that's good enough.

00:53:31.680 But, oh, my God, this NGO fraud is just, it's a level that I could never even imagine.

00:53:42.100 And it sort of maybe answers that question of why do there seem to be so many rich people

00:53:47.500 when there aren't that many things that would make people rich?

00:53:52.300 There can't be that many CEOs, you know, that many people who started their own company

00:53:57.400 or inherited a fortune from their parents.

00:54:02.820 A lot of it might be this.

00:54:05.440 You know, like, I don't know what percentage,

00:54:07.980 but if you told me tomorrow that 20% of all rich people got there by stealing from the government,

00:54:14.560 I wouldn't be surprised a bit.

00:54:17.180 If you told me it was 40%, I wouldn't be surprised.

00:54:22.140 I would be horrified, but I wouldn't be surprised at this point.

00:54:28.800 Here's some good news, according to the Independent in the UK.

00:54:33.320 Apparently, J.D. Vance has already told the UK's Keir Starmer

00:54:38.060 that if he wants any kind of a trade deal,

00:54:41.820 and of course he does want a trade deal with the US,

00:54:44.280 he's got to repeal the hate speech laws that would be affecting not just his country, but us, I guess.

00:54:52.140 Now, how much do you love that?

00:54:54.720 We should not be doing any trade with a country who is trying to censor our First Amendment rights

00:55:01.200 in the United States.

00:55:02.740 You can't be our friend, and you can't trade with us

00:55:06.360 if you're trying to shut down our most important right in this country from your country.

00:55:13.260 So that's not going to work.

00:55:15.620 So yes, J.D. Vance put down that red line.

00:55:21.560 You can't have this censorship, hate speech stuff

00:55:24.640 if you also want to do business with the United States.

00:55:28.460 Absolutely, I love that.

00:55:31.820 Well, you know that China said that they're not negotiating whatsoever with the United States,

00:55:36.840 and then Trump says, oh yeah, we're totally negotiating with China.

00:55:41.680 So not only does Trump say we are negotiating with China,

00:55:45.220 but I guess he said, it must have been yesterday,

00:55:48.100 they had meetings this morning.

00:55:50.460 That's pretty specific.

00:55:52.240 And we've been meeting with China,

00:55:53.900 and so I think you have, as usual,

00:55:57.180 I think you have your reporting wrong,

00:55:59.020 he was telling the reporters.

00:55:59.920 I guess China told Washington 0.51

00:56:04.700 that it wants Washington to scrap all of its tariffs

00:56:08.980 if it wants serious negotiations.

00:56:12.340 Because I guess, you know,

00:56:14.160 putting the tariffs on in the first place

00:56:16.040 seemed like maybe an affront

00:56:18.420 or pretending that we had power over them,

00:56:21.140 and that's no bueno for China.

00:56:23.660 And China's commerce minister insists

00:56:28.940 the U.S. started the trade war,

00:56:30.480 so we have to make the first moves.

00:56:32.420 Now, here's what I think.

00:56:33.880 I think that China wants to have it both ways. 0.71

00:56:37.500 I think that they are negotiating

00:56:39.480 at some low level or indirectly or something,

00:56:43.460 while they're saying they're not.

00:56:45.840 Because they don't want to look like they got pushed into it,

00:56:49.100 but they'd like to have a deal.

00:56:50.700 So I think maybe when the negotiations

00:56:54.220 that they say are not happening

00:56:55.900 get closer to something that might be an actual deal,

00:57:00.180 then I think China's going to admit, 0.90

00:57:02.780 oh, we'll talk to you now,

00:57:04.620 and then they'll just start talking.

00:57:10.320 I guess China canceled 12,000 metric tons of pork

00:57:14.920 that they were going to ship to the United States.

00:57:17.280 So if you thought you were going to be eating

00:57:19.540 a little ham today or enjoying some bacon,

00:57:24.140 maybe not, maybe a little less pork.

00:57:28.460 But then I guess there's some other things

00:57:30.540 that, according to Bloomberg,

00:57:32.720 China is looking at suspending

00:57:35.280 their 125% tariff on a few things.

00:57:38.840 I think it's some technology things.

00:57:41.380 I don't know why they picked them

00:57:42.680 or what specifically,

00:57:44.680 but there's definitely stuff happening.

00:57:46.400 Definitely stuff happening.

00:57:51.460 Now, one of the things that has been bugging me lately

00:57:54.860 is that people keep prodding me

00:57:57.620 to admit, they're like,

00:58:01.080 Scott, are you ready to admit

00:58:03.420 that Trump's tariffs were a gigantic mistake?

00:58:07.240 What do I say to that?

00:58:11.920 Because we're in the middle of the game.

00:58:15.700 If the game were over

00:58:17.440 and it totally didn't work

00:58:19.620 and it was obvious,

00:58:22.180 then I would say,

00:58:22.880 well, it looks like that was a giant mistake.

00:58:25.700 But how do I determine in the middle of the game

00:58:29.460 that it was a mistake?

00:58:32.120 It seems to me that everything depends on timing.

00:58:36.960 If it takes to the end of this year

00:58:39.100 to work out any kind of a deal with China,

00:58:41.520 or maybe we just never do,

00:58:43.820 well, that would look like a pretty big mistake.

00:58:47.020 If in 30 days,

00:58:49.940 the US and China have at least the framework

00:58:53.080 of an agreement,

00:58:54.560 it's not going to look like

00:58:57.080 we're going to have huge shortages over the summer.

00:58:59.620 We'd have a little bit

00:59:01.160 because there's some built-up demand

00:59:04.400 that couldn't be satisfied

00:59:06.140 with the shipping we have.

00:59:09.380 But don't you have to wait?

00:59:12.080 If it's true that he's getting better trade deals

00:59:14.740 and if it's true that countries are agreeing

00:59:18.120 to buy more energy from the US

00:59:20.080 and maybe other things such as food,

00:59:23.300 isn't everything moving in the right direction?

00:59:26.220 So, I don't understand the people

00:59:30.760 who believe that they can tell already

00:59:33.160 it's a giant mistake.

00:59:36.440 And, you know, it could be.

00:59:39.780 I don't rule it out.

00:59:41.720 If they bungle the management

00:59:44.800 of the negotiations, I guess,

00:59:47.440 it would be a giant mistake.

00:59:49.940 But if they do get agreements,

00:59:52.940 and it looks like they're not too far away

00:59:54.640 from getting a South Korea agreement,

00:59:56.920 not too far from a Japan agreement,

01:00:00.940 probably not too far from some other agreements

01:00:04.160 when, you know, I think Vietnam was up pretty quickly.

01:00:09.220 It's not going to take too many finalized deals

01:00:12.960 or even, you know, agreed frameworks

01:00:15.880 for finalized deals.

01:00:17.240 It's not going to take too many successes.

01:00:19.100 that are nailed down

01:00:21.120 before the news has to admit,

01:00:23.640 okay, well, at least this country,

01:00:30.620 you know, at least we got a better deal

01:00:32.860 with this country.

01:00:33.940 And then it would be the next day or two,

01:00:37.040 okay, well, you know,

01:00:38.920 I have to admit we got a better trade deal

01:00:40.940 with this country.

01:00:41.920 And they did agree to buy a lot more

01:00:44.800 of our liquid, you know, gas.

01:00:49.320 So isn't it likely,

01:00:52.940 depending entirely on timing,

01:00:55.760 so if things happen fast,

01:00:58.320 it's going to look like the smartest thing

01:01:00.040 anybody ever did in the history

01:01:01.620 of the United States.

01:01:03.580 If things don't happen fast,

01:01:06.640 it could look like,

01:01:08.180 and turn out to be,

01:01:09.380 just a pure mistake.

01:01:13.720 But it seems to me

01:01:14.940 that there's far more likely chance

01:01:18.120 that it's going to go

01:01:18.920 in the right direction

01:01:19.740 than the wrong direction.

01:01:21.540 Now, part of the negotiations

01:01:23.180 with China,

01:01:25.000 since the China relationship

01:01:27.440 is a, you know,

01:01:28.640 a massive set of variables

01:01:30.340 that are in every domain,

01:01:33.740 Yahoo Finance is saying

01:01:35.200 that the,

01:01:37.620 I guess the Pentagon's

01:01:39.100 got a big budget now

01:01:40.540 for Trump's,

01:01:42.080 what they call the Golden Dome

01:01:44.120 that would protect us

01:01:45.820 from incoming missiles.

01:01:47.500 So that would include

01:01:48.540 everything from SpaceX

01:01:50.300 being able to track

01:01:52.160 any incoming threats

01:01:53.400 to various missiles

01:01:57.880 and warships

01:01:58.740 and autonomous weapons

01:02:01.660 and lasers and stuff

01:02:03.260 to shoot down those missiles.

01:02:06.080 So is that something

01:02:07.500 that would make us

01:02:09.000 better off

01:02:11.820 in our negotiations

01:02:13.080 with China?

01:02:14.760 I feel that we would

01:02:17.000 get the best deal

01:02:18.160 if we look the strongest

01:02:20.000 in every way.

01:02:21.720 Strongest militarily,

01:02:23.380 strongest economically.

01:02:25.020 That's probably how

01:02:25.920 you get the best deal.

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01:02:57.480 Here's a story

01:03:01.300 that snuck up on me.

01:03:03.740 So Joel Pollack

01:03:04.700 is writing about this

01:03:05.600 in Breitbart.

01:03:06.820 So there's this gentleman

01:03:08.500 who was a former aide

01:03:09.760 to President Biden.

01:03:11.680 His name is

01:03:12.440 Elon Goldenberg.

01:03:15.560 And he says that

01:03:16.440 while he was a former aide

01:03:17.740 to Biden,

01:03:19.520 and this is something

01:03:21.000 he said to Israel's Channel 13,

01:03:22.860 he said that

01:03:24.200 the Biden administration

01:03:25.240 tried to oust

01:03:26.360 Israeli Prime Minister

01:03:27.920 Benjamin Netanyahu

01:03:29.120 after October 7th,

01:03:32.340 after the October 7th attack,

01:03:34.880 because temporarily

01:03:36.300 Netanyahu's popularity

01:03:38.440 was very low.

01:03:40.340 And apparently

01:03:41.080 the Biden administration

01:03:42.780 thought they'd be better off

01:03:44.160 without him.

01:03:45.360 So they put into motion

01:03:47.720 some kind of acts

01:03:50.220 that I don't know

01:03:51.140 if it's color revolution

01:03:52.460 or if it's completely legal

01:03:54.980 or if it's just

01:03:56.000 the U.S. trying

01:03:57.520 to influence

01:03:58.320 its allies.

01:04:00.980 I don't know

01:04:01.640 what it would be called.

01:04:04.720 But apparently

01:04:06.040 there was

01:04:06.980 a serious effort

01:04:09.260 to change

01:04:10.600 the leadership

01:04:11.200 in Israel.

01:04:12.820 Now, apparently

01:04:13.900 that didn't go

01:04:14.860 as far as it could have been

01:04:16.040 because

01:04:16.740 Netanyahu's popularity

01:04:19.900 recovered fairly quickly

01:04:21.880 when he

01:04:22.620 got serious

01:04:23.660 about

01:04:24.100 responding to it.

01:04:26.860 So,

01:04:27.420 anyway,

01:04:28.840 so this

01:04:29.300 Goldenberg

01:04:29.960 suggested

01:04:32.680 that

01:04:33.260 that Biden

01:04:34.800 was even willing

01:04:35.520 to consider

01:04:36.300 quote,

01:04:37.120 non-democratic

01:04:38.220 means of removing

01:04:39.400 Netanyahu.

01:04:40.840 Non-democratic

01:04:41.920 means?

01:04:43.960 That doesn't sound good.

01:04:46.220 You know,

01:04:46.480 we're always talking

01:04:47.220 about how AIPAC

01:04:48.320 is controlling

01:04:49.560 the United States,

01:04:51.280 you know,

01:04:51.520 Congress.

01:04:52.680 And, of course,

01:04:53.480 there's influence

01:04:54.620 that works both ways

01:04:55.700 in the case of Israel

01:04:57.040 and the United States.

01:04:58.440 But did you know

01:04:59.800 that at least

01:05:01.820 the Biden administration

01:05:02.820 was pretty active

01:05:05.300 in trying to change

01:05:07.280 something

01:05:07.880 really big

01:05:09.260 in Israel?

01:05:12.220 So,

01:05:13.220 that's interesting.

01:05:14.560 Well,

01:05:17.340 let's talk about

01:05:17.960 Ukraine.

01:05:18.660 Trump's envoy,

01:05:20.200 Wyckoff,

01:05:21.400 I guess he's in

01:05:22.420 Moscow

01:05:22.940 trying to

01:05:23.680 work on a deal.

01:05:25.380 And it would

01:05:26.280 reportedly include

01:05:27.440 that Ukraine 0.91

01:05:28.680 won't join NATO

01:05:29.760 and that both sides

01:05:31.900 would

01:05:32.300 cede some

01:05:33.340 territory.

01:05:35.320 And

01:05:35.720 Trump has said

01:05:37.500 that

01:05:37.880 if he doesn't

01:05:38.900 get a deal done,

01:05:39.740 he's going to be

01:05:40.340 mad at both sides,

01:05:41.660 I guess.

01:05:42.340 But he has a

01:05:43.020 secret deadline

01:05:43.840 he won't divulge,

01:05:45.420 which means he

01:05:46.180 doesn't have a

01:05:46.820 secret deadline.

01:05:49.560 But his

01:05:50.860 uncertainty play,

01:05:52.100 it works every time.

01:05:53.720 So,

01:05:53.960 every time he does

01:05:54.680 something where he

01:05:55.420 adds uncertainty,

01:05:56.780 I always laugh

01:05:57.920 because it's not like

01:05:59.520 he doesn't say

01:06:01.020 he's doing it.

01:06:02.460 He tells you

01:06:03.120 exactly what he's

01:06:04.000 doing and then he

01:06:04.760 does it right in

01:06:05.400 front of you

01:06:05.800 and it still works.

01:06:07.220 So,

01:06:07.540 yeah,

01:06:07.880 I've got a

01:06:08.320 secret deadline.

01:06:09.860 And if you

01:06:12.260 don't meet my

01:06:12.920 secret deadline,

01:06:14.380 you're both in

01:06:15.300 trouble.

01:06:15.780 So,

01:06:16.000 you better

01:06:16.320 meet that

01:06:17.920 secret deadline.

01:06:21.500 So,

01:06:22.100 I don't know.

01:06:22.960 It seems to me

01:06:24.000 that Ukraine 0.91

01:06:25.000 is not going to

01:06:25.740 get something

01:06:26.220 like a security

01:06:27.300 guarantee.

01:06:29.320 And

01:06:29.840 if Ukraine

01:06:30.840 doesn't have a

01:06:31.520 security guarantee,

01:06:33.120 what exactly

01:06:34.320 would keep

01:06:35.040 Putin from

01:06:36.040 trying to

01:06:37.740 take over

01:06:38.200 the rest

01:06:38.700 of Ukraine.

01:06:40.980 Maybe he

01:06:41.620 doesn't need

01:06:42.040 to do it

01:06:42.400 militarily.

01:06:44.160 Maybe once

01:06:45.020 the fighting

01:06:46.420 stops,

01:06:47.860 maybe

01:06:48.180 Putin can

01:06:49.440 do his

01:06:50.020 usual

01:06:50.520 color revolution

01:06:52.200 thing,

01:06:52.980 whatever is the

01:06:53.640 Russian version

01:06:54.280 of that,

01:06:55.180 where he just

01:06:55.860 bribes people 1.00

01:06:57.180 and murders 0.61

01:06:57.740 people and

01:06:58.740 tries to

01:07:00.100 manipulate things

01:07:01.020 in a neighboring

01:07:01.600 country until

01:07:02.680 the neighboring

01:07:03.700 country says,

01:07:04.760 can we please

01:07:05.440 join Russia?

01:07:06.720 We love you

01:07:07.340 so much

01:07:07.960 because you

01:07:08.640 bribed us 0.60

01:07:09.340 and murdered 0.96

01:07:09.780 us to the

01:07:10.900 point where

01:07:11.440 we better

01:07:13.440 play nice

01:07:14.480 with you

01:07:14.800 if we want

01:07:15.220 to survive.

01:07:16.800 So,

01:07:17.480 I don't know

01:07:19.100 how Ukraine

01:07:19.900 would ever

01:07:20.580 agree to

01:07:22.400 a non-security

01:07:23.460 agreement.

01:07:26.100 I don't know

01:07:26.960 there's enough

01:07:27.480 pressure you

01:07:28.140 could put on

01:07:28.680 them because

01:07:29.840 it's the most

01:07:30.360 important thing.

01:07:32.480 Now,

01:07:33.040 keep an eye

01:07:33.480 on it.

01:07:33.860 Trump's

01:07:36.980 also working

01:07:37.680 on the

01:07:38.540 administration

01:07:39.100 is working

01:07:39.520 on a plan

01:07:40.060 to fast

01:07:41.360 track,

01:07:42.000 this is

01:07:42.500 according to

01:07:42.980 the Hill,

01:07:44.220 fossil fuels

01:07:45.400 and mining

01:07:45.840 on public

01:07:46.400 lands.

01:07:47.600 Now,

01:07:48.080 one assumes

01:07:49.080 that because

01:07:49.640 it's the

01:07:49.980 government,

01:07:51.180 there are

01:07:51.720 unnecessary

01:07:52.580 rules that

01:07:55.300 say you

01:07:55.900 can and

01:07:56.320 cannot do

01:07:56.780 this on

01:07:57.200 public lands.

01:07:58.380 So,

01:07:58.700 the Trump

01:07:58.960 administration

01:07:59.400 is trying

01:07:59.960 to get rid

01:08:00.400 of that

01:08:00.680 red tape.

01:08:01.640 So,

01:08:01.880 if people

01:08:02.240 need to

01:08:02.820 look for

01:08:04.040 coal,

01:08:04.700 oil,

01:08:05.020 or gas,

01:08:05.640 or uranium,

01:08:06.500 or other

01:08:06.860 minerals on

01:08:07.620 public land,

01:08:08.760 it would be

01:08:09.500 much easier

01:08:10.200 to get that

01:08:10.880 going.

01:08:12.460 Now,

01:08:13.520 I think this

01:08:15.500 is the most

01:08:16.040 important thing

01:08:16.700 happening in

01:08:17.320 the country

01:08:17.780 because we

01:08:20.280 didn't really

01:08:20.800 get the

01:08:21.480 budget cuts

01:08:22.560 we were

01:08:22.860 hoping for.

01:08:23.520 and even

01:08:25.700 if the

01:08:26.320 tariff

01:08:28.600 situation

01:08:29.240 ends up

01:08:29.900 moving more

01:08:31.100 manufacturing

01:08:31.900 back to

01:08:32.420 the U.S.,

01:08:33.440 it's not

01:08:33.880 going to

01:08:34.080 happen too

01:08:34.560 quickly.

01:08:35.940 So,

01:08:36.720 we've got

01:08:37.040 this massive

01:08:37.940 debt problem

01:08:38.820 and we've

01:08:41.320 got one

01:08:43.420 thing that

01:08:44.040 we could

01:08:44.360 produce

01:08:44.780 relatively

01:08:45.600 quickly that

01:08:46.960 everybody would

01:08:47.740 want to

01:08:48.080 buy,

01:08:49.040 which is

01:08:49.500 energy.

01:08:50.960 And because

01:08:51.920 of AI in

01:08:52.800 particular,

01:08:53.520 certainly all

01:08:55.260 the developed

01:08:55.740 countries are

01:08:56.420 going to want

01:08:56.900 just all

01:08:57.680 kinds of

01:08:58.100 crazy energy

01:08:58.820 and they're

01:08:59.680 not going

01:09:00.040 to be able

01:09:00.280 to produce

01:09:00.700 it themselves

01:09:01.280 or not

01:09:01.800 going to

01:09:01.980 be able to

01:09:02.300 buy enough

01:09:02.820 even from

01:09:03.480 Russia if

01:09:04.380 they were

01:09:04.640 buying it

01:09:05.060 there.

01:09:05.920 And the

01:09:07.180 U.S.

01:09:07.700 just seems

01:09:08.320 to have a

01:09:09.060 massive amount

01:09:10.900 of energy

01:09:11.580 that it could

01:09:12.160 produce and

01:09:13.060 sell.

01:09:14.980 I'm not sure

01:09:15.960 there's anything

01:09:16.720 happening in the

01:09:17.480 United States

01:09:18.020 that's more

01:09:18.420 important than

01:09:20.140 the Trump

01:09:20.800 administration

01:09:21.440 loosening up

01:09:22.360 the rules for

01:09:23.160 how much

01:09:23.560 you can

01:09:23.880 produce and

01:09:24.420 where you

01:09:24.760 can produce

01:09:25.280 it and

01:09:25.520 how you

01:09:25.840 can get

01:09:26.200 it.

01:09:27.540 Because if

01:09:28.240 we could,

01:09:29.840 let's say,

01:09:31.900 influence all

01:09:32.860 the countries

01:09:33.440 that sell us

01:09:34.580 more things

01:09:35.260 than they

01:09:35.620 buy, and

01:09:37.340 this is what

01:09:38.100 Trump is doing

01:09:38.760 well, I think,

01:09:40.460 the trade

01:09:41.640 deficit, some

01:09:44.220 experts are

01:09:44.940 saying, hey,

01:09:45.920 that's just a

01:09:46.500 thing on paper.

01:09:47.200 that's not

01:09:49.180 something you

01:09:49.680 need to fix.

01:09:51.320 We just

01:09:52.020 like buying

01:09:52.600 more of

01:09:53.000 their stuff

01:09:53.520 than they

01:09:53.880 like buying

01:09:54.380 our stuff.

01:09:55.140 What's the

01:09:55.580 big deal?

01:09:56.720 Well, I was

01:09:57.080 listening to

01:09:57.600 Warren Buffett

01:09:58.320 talk about

01:09:58.980 trade imbalances,

01:10:00.540 and Warren

01:10:01.220 Buffett thinks

01:10:01.880 it's a big

01:10:02.380 deal, or at

01:10:03.340 least he did

01:10:04.120 not too long

01:10:04.780 ago.

01:10:05.780 And the way

01:10:06.320 he explained

01:10:06.920 it was that

01:10:08.940 if we buy

01:10:10.420 more of

01:10:10.900 their stuff,

01:10:11.640 they have

01:10:13.080 our money,

01:10:14.440 and then we

01:10:15.320 buy less of

01:10:16.040 their stuff,

01:10:17.280 they end up

01:10:18.420 with our

01:10:18.820 money, because

01:10:20.660 we gave them

01:10:21.520 more dollars

01:10:22.120 than they

01:10:23.000 gave us.

01:10:24.280 So if they

01:10:24.980 have our

01:10:25.380 dollars, they

01:10:26.760 basically own a

01:10:27.760 piece of the

01:10:28.200 United States.

01:10:29.500 Like, that's

01:10:29.940 sort of what

01:10:30.360 the dollar is.

01:10:31.920 And then they

01:10:32.680 can buy stuff

01:10:33.960 such as, I

01:10:35.860 think Warren

01:10:36.260 Buffett used

01:10:36.840 the example of

01:10:37.640 when Japan had

01:10:39.120 a gigantic trade

01:10:40.460 imbalance with

01:10:41.560 us, they

01:10:42.420 got so many

01:10:43.060 of our

01:10:43.320 dollars that

01:10:44.880 they didn't

01:10:45.460 know where

01:10:45.700 to spend

01:10:46.080 it, so they

01:10:46.600 went over

01:10:46.940 and bought

01:10:47.540 important American

01:10:49.480 buildings and

01:10:50.720 property.

01:10:52.280 So we

01:10:52.660 basically are

01:10:53.660 literally,

01:10:55.300 according to

01:10:55.780 Warren Buffett,

01:10:57.540 a trade imbalance

01:10:58.440 is how you

01:10:59.000 give away your

01:10:59.680 country.

01:11:01.320 Let me say

01:11:02.000 it again.

01:11:03.580 Japan had 0.56

01:11:04.340 such a big

01:11:04.900 trade imbalance

01:11:05.720 that they had

01:11:07.340 a whole bunch

01:11:07.900 of American

01:11:08.540 dollars and

01:11:10.840 not enough

01:11:11.500 to spend

01:11:11.940 it on.

01:11:12.760 So they

01:11:13.460 ended up

01:11:13.840 just buying

01:11:14.620 American

01:11:15.320 physical assets

01:11:17.260 and property.

01:11:19.360 They literally

01:11:20.520 were owning

01:11:22.580 parts of

01:11:23.180 America because

01:11:24.640 of the trade

01:11:25.160 imbalance.

01:11:27.040 Now multiply

01:11:27.960 that by every

01:11:28.940 country that

01:11:29.540 has a trade

01:11:30.080 imbalance, and

01:11:31.660 especially China.

01:11:33.240 So one of the

01:11:33.860 things that

01:11:34.360 Trump is doing

01:11:35.040 that I think

01:11:35.720 is smart is

01:11:37.680 he's saying

01:11:38.760 that the

01:11:39.160 trade imbalance

01:11:39.840 is part of

01:11:40.640 our trade

01:11:41.340 negotiations

01:11:42.080 over tariffs.

01:11:43.940 Now the

01:11:44.480 so-called

01:11:45.100 smart people

01:11:46.200 in quotes

01:11:47.020 would say

01:11:48.200 those are

01:11:49.380 different

01:11:49.780 things.

01:11:51.640 You should

01:11:52.220 just negotiate

01:11:53.000 the tariffs

01:11:53.600 as tariffs,

01:11:55.020 and if you

01:11:55.800 wanted the

01:11:57.760 trade imbalance

01:11:58.520 to be better,

01:11:59.320 you should have

01:11:59.740 better products

01:12:00.520 because then

01:12:02.100 people would

01:12:02.600 want to buy

01:12:03.120 it because

01:12:03.460 they're better

01:12:03.820 products.

01:12:04.320 I disagree.

01:12:06.780 I think

01:12:07.480 Trump's doing

01:12:08.120 it exactly

01:12:08.700 right, which

01:12:10.000 is he's saying

01:12:10.780 if you want

01:12:11.340 to do business

01:12:12.000 with us, you

01:12:13.640 are going to

01:12:13.880 have to reduce

01:12:14.540 that trade

01:12:15.180 imbalance.

01:12:16.900 And the

01:12:17.340 easiest way

01:12:17.980 to do it,

01:12:18.460 and maybe the

01:12:19.000 only way you

01:12:19.560 can do it

01:12:19.940 quickly, is

01:12:21.200 we're producing

01:12:22.120 a lot more

01:12:22.760 oil and gas

01:12:23.800 and maybe

01:12:25.000 even coal

01:12:25.640 than we used

01:12:27.440 to, and

01:12:28.360 you're going

01:12:28.660 to have to

01:12:28.960 buy it from

01:12:29.480 us because

01:12:32.000 you could buy

01:12:32.680 it from

01:12:32.900 somewhere else.

01:12:34.320 But we'll

01:12:34.800 just say, you

01:12:36.060 know where

01:12:36.380 you used to

01:12:36.860 get a quarter

01:12:37.520 of your oil

01:12:38.400 from Saudi

01:12:39.020 Arabia?

01:12:40.360 Well, that's

01:12:41.100 not going to

01:12:41.420 happen anymore.

01:12:42.160 If you want

01:12:42.620 to do business

01:12:43.180 with us, you're

01:12:44.320 going to move

01:12:45.280 that over to

01:12:45.960 us.

01:12:47.300 Oil is sort

01:12:48.340 of oil.

01:12:48.860 It's not

01:12:49.220 going to be

01:12:49.500 that different

01:12:50.000 anywhere.

01:12:51.340 So I think

01:12:53.140 quietly, this

01:12:55.020 whole energy

01:12:56.160 monster play is

01:12:58.900 the most

01:12:59.380 important thing

01:13:00.040 happening in

01:13:00.580 the United

01:13:00.820 States.

01:13:01.200 It's the

01:13:01.560 most immediately

01:13:03.300 transformative

01:13:04.320 economic thing

01:13:06.220 that could make

01:13:07.620 a difference.

01:13:08.720 Nothing else

01:13:09.480 is big enough.

01:13:10.900 Like if we

01:13:11.600 make a deal

01:13:12.280 about Chinese

01:13:13.920 pork, that's 0.81

01:13:15.340 not big enough.

01:13:16.900 That won't

01:13:17.240 move any

01:13:17.980 needles.

01:13:19.380 Even Doge,

01:13:20.480 you know, with

01:13:21.320 its best

01:13:21.800 efforts, barely

01:13:24.160 cut the budget.

01:13:25.880 You know, we

01:13:26.440 increased the

01:13:27.300 defense budget

01:13:29.940 by more than

01:13:30.960 enough to eat

01:13:31.900 all the

01:13:32.220 Doge

01:13:32.560 savings.

01:13:33.620 So there's

01:13:34.500 nothing else

01:13:35.260 happening that

01:13:36.560 has the

01:13:37.080 scale that

01:13:38.980 turning into

01:13:39.680 an energy

01:13:40.360 monster, you

01:13:42.580 know, nation 0.96

01:13:44.220 has that you

01:13:45.800 can do fast

01:13:46.440 enough and big

01:13:47.080 enough.

01:13:47.800 So I feel like

01:13:49.340 this is the most

01:13:50.060 important thing

01:13:50.660 happening in the

01:13:51.380 country and that

01:13:52.480 Trump is probably

01:13:53.300 doing it right by

01:13:55.240 putting the

01:13:55.840 emphasis on it.

01:13:56.660 And then AI, of

01:13:59.340 course, drives

01:14:00.000 that, makes it

01:14:00.740 easier to make

01:14:02.580 that your

01:14:03.740 highest priority.

01:14:07.320 I saw an

01:14:08.380 article from the

01:14:09.200 European

01:14:09.540 Conservative saying

01:14:11.040 that Europe's

01:14:11.780 facing a big

01:14:12.660 debt problem of

01:14:13.820 its own.

01:14:14.860 And of course,

01:14:15.400 China has a big

01:14:16.120 debt problem and

01:14:17.000 the U.S. has a

01:14:17.680 big debt problem.

01:14:19.260 And I've got a

01:14:20.740 weird economic

01:14:21.740 question.

01:14:23.140 And I have no

01:14:24.100 idea what the

01:14:24.720 answer is.

01:14:25.240 If all the big

01:14:28.080 industrial countries

01:14:29.440 had a debt

01:14:32.200 crisis at the

01:14:33.100 same time, would

01:14:35.220 that be better or

01:14:36.400 worse for the

01:14:37.700 United States?

01:14:39.460 It's a weird

01:14:39.980 question, right?

01:14:40.940 Because your

01:14:41.440 assumption is, of

01:14:42.400 course, it's

01:14:42.800 worse.

01:14:44.040 More debt

01:14:44.680 crisis is more

01:14:45.680 worse.

01:14:47.020 But suppose all

01:14:48.800 the other

01:14:49.240 countries didn't

01:14:50.140 have a debt

01:14:50.680 crisis and the

01:14:52.420 United States

01:14:53.180 did.

01:14:55.240 That would

01:14:55.880 end the

01:14:56.380 United States.

01:14:58.160 But what if

01:14:58.880 everybody had the

01:15:00.120 same debt

01:15:00.660 crisis at

01:15:02.200 about the

01:15:02.640 same time?

01:15:04.440 Is there

01:15:05.140 something that

01:15:05.980 happens when

01:15:06.820 everybody has the

01:15:07.900 same debt

01:15:08.360 crisis that

01:15:10.380 somehow protects

01:15:12.540 everybody who has

01:15:13.460 a debt crisis?

01:15:15.100 Now, I can't

01:15:16.140 quite connect the

01:15:17.100 dots to that, so

01:15:18.260 it doesn't make

01:15:18.840 sense.

01:15:19.220 I'm just sort

01:15:21.480 of saying I

01:15:22.240 don't understand

01:15:23.000 that world

01:15:23.560 enough to

01:15:25.080 know.

01:15:25.780 But I feel

01:15:27.180 like that's an

01:15:27.720 interesting question.

01:15:28.740 Is there

01:15:29.000 anything about

01:15:29.780 everybody having

01:15:30.780 the problem at

01:15:31.400 the same time

01:15:32.240 that makes you

01:15:33.500 a little safer

01:15:34.300 than if you

01:15:35.340 were the only

01:15:35.800 one who had

01:15:36.340 that problem?

01:15:38.560 I don't know.

01:15:40.440 I'd love

01:15:41.080 somebody who's

01:15:41.860 smarter in

01:15:42.780 economics to

01:15:43.520 answer that

01:15:43.900 question to

01:15:44.400 me.

01:15:44.560 I saw a

01:15:47.480 post on X

01:15:48.340 from Andrew

01:15:50.040 Huberman, who

01:15:51.020 was talking to

01:15:52.000 some expert

01:15:52.600 about addiction,

01:15:54.320 and I guess

01:15:55.740 the expert is

01:15:56.520 Ryan Suave,

01:15:59.540 and he was

01:16:00.200 talking about

01:16:00.940 porn addiction,

01:16:02.980 video porn 0.95

01:16:03.880 addiction.

01:16:05.440 And whenever

01:16:07.140 I see this

01:16:08.400 topic, because

01:16:10.040 it comes up a

01:16:10.840 lot, the

01:16:11.240 video porn

01:16:12.260 addiction,

01:16:13.660 there are a

01:16:13.980 whole bunch of

01:16:14.500 questions that

01:16:15.320 come up.

01:16:16.960 And since

01:16:18.520 I have no

01:16:19.140 shame, I'm

01:16:20.360 the person who

01:16:20.960 can ask these

01:16:21.500 questions.

01:16:22.660 So here are

01:16:23.440 some questions.

01:16:24.640 Number one,

01:16:25.240 what is the

01:16:25.760 dividing line

01:16:26.600 between a

01:16:27.220 hobby and

01:16:27.960 an addiction?

01:16:30.340 You think

01:16:31.140 it's obvious,

01:16:31.820 right?

01:16:32.880 Well,

01:16:33.300 obviously,

01:16:34.400 you know,

01:16:34.700 an addiction

01:16:35.220 would be like

01:16:36.040 cigarettes and

01:16:37.080 alcohol, and

01:16:38.080 a hobby would

01:16:39.460 be, you

01:16:40.400 know,

01:16:40.520 knitting.

01:16:42.280 But what if

01:16:43.140 your hobby is

01:16:44.300 running?

01:16:45.700 You just

01:16:46.480 can't go a

01:16:47.720 day without

01:16:48.060 running.

01:16:49.220 You know that

01:16:49.980 running is one

01:16:50.920 of the most

01:16:51.260 dangerous things

01:16:52.140 you can do if

01:16:53.100 you do it all

01:16:53.620 the time,

01:16:54.120 right?

01:16:55.280 Running is one

01:16:56.240 of the most

01:16:56.600 injury-prone

01:16:57.760 problems you

01:16:59.360 could have,

01:16:59.900 and then if

01:17:00.380 you do

01:17:00.700 something that

01:17:01.260 affects your

01:17:01.820 mobility in

01:17:02.660 general, well,

01:17:03.900 that's really

01:17:04.360 bad for your

01:17:04.900 health in the

01:17:05.400 long term.

01:17:05.860 well, so

01:17:07.800 there's a lot

01:17:08.280 of things that

01:17:08.820 we do that

01:17:10.840 we would call

01:17:11.920 a hobby that

01:17:13.600 definitely have

01:17:14.380 a downside.

01:17:16.700 So what is

01:17:17.520 that dividing

01:17:18.500 line?

01:17:18.800 When is it a

01:17:19.380 hobby and when

01:17:20.060 is it an

01:17:20.580 addiction?

01:17:21.600 If I said,

01:17:22.780 you should not

01:17:24.080 be looking at

01:17:24.740 all that porn 0.52

01:17:25.420 because it's 0.99

01:17:26.040 bad for you,

01:17:27.060 but you said,

01:17:29.240 it's not bad

01:17:29.920 for me, I just

01:17:30.560 enjoy it.

01:17:31.220 is it an

01:17:33.100 addiction or

01:17:34.780 is it a

01:17:35.160 hobby?

01:17:36.360 I don't know.

01:17:38.160 The other

01:17:38.820 question is,

01:17:39.920 what if there

01:17:40.620 are some men

01:17:41.440 who prefer not

01:17:43.040 being slaves to

01:17:44.100 their own sexual

01:17:45.000 desires and

01:17:46.720 they know they

01:17:47.300 can turn it

01:17:48.040 off by using

01:17:49.700 porn?

01:17:50.720 And what if

01:17:51.800 they don't want

01:17:52.300 to be slaves to

01:17:53.360 women and have

01:17:54.820 to do whatever

01:17:55.480 women say to 0.99

01:17:56.360 get sex and 0.99

01:17:57.920 pretend that, 0.99

01:17:59.100 you know,

01:17:59.520 they're agreeing

01:18:00.080 with everything

01:18:00.740 and basically

01:18:02.680 giving away

01:18:03.420 their own

01:18:03.780 agency?

01:18:04.860 What if

01:18:05.240 there are men

01:18:05.600 who just say,

01:18:06.240 I don't want

01:18:06.540 to do that?

01:18:08.020 What if they

01:18:08.500 say, I want

01:18:09.100 to control my

01:18:09.880 own body and

01:18:11.440 one way I do

01:18:12.300 it is to,

01:18:13.640 you know,

01:18:13.960 knock down my 0.99

01:18:15.020 sexual interest

01:18:16.620 once or twice

01:18:18.760 a day?

01:18:19.820 And what if

01:18:21.480 I don't want

01:18:21.980 to be a slave

01:18:22.800 to women who 0.64

01:18:23.940 have control

01:18:24.660 over whether

01:18:25.280 I ever have

01:18:26.100 sex? 0.75

01:18:28.040 Are those 1.00

01:18:29.240 people crazy? 1.00

01:18:30.080 are they 0.97

01:18:30.840 addicted?

01:18:31.660 Or is that

01:18:32.260 just a different

01:18:32.940 preference for

01:18:33.820 how to live

01:18:34.280 your life and

01:18:35.500 what it's like

01:18:36.080 to be a free

01:18:36.920 man?

01:18:38.560 I don't know.

01:18:40.640 What if

01:18:41.360 you're a man

01:18:43.340 who just

01:18:43.820 doesn't have

01:18:44.500 access to

01:18:45.260 sex and

01:18:46.120 that's not

01:18:46.580 likely to

01:18:47.160 change?

01:18:48.120 Or if you

01:18:48.620 do have

01:18:49.020 access to

01:18:49.700 sex, it's 0.96

01:18:50.800 not going to

01:18:51.280 be with

01:18:51.640 anybody that

01:18:52.200 you're attracted

01:18:52.760 to.

01:18:53.320 And it could

01:18:53.740 be because

01:18:54.240 you're not

01:18:54.620 attractive.

01:18:55.700 It could be

01:18:56.080 because any

01:18:58.980 number of

01:18:59.420 things could

01:18:59.940 be happening

01:19:01.140 with you that

01:19:01.740 makes you not

01:19:02.620 something that

01:19:04.380 somebody wants 0.94

01:19:04.940 to have sex 0.99

01:19:05.420 with. 0.99

01:19:06.020 If a person

01:19:06.760 who doesn't

01:19:07.280 have access,

01:19:08.780 if they're

01:19:09.200 not Andrew

01:19:10.140 Huberman who

01:19:11.480 can have

01:19:11.900 multiple

01:19:12.340 girlfriends

01:19:12.840 apparently,

01:19:13.860 I think that's

01:19:15.200 his actual

01:19:15.680 situation.

01:19:17.680 If you don't

01:19:18.700 have access to 0.77

01:19:19.680 sex, why 0.77

01:19:21.380 do anybody

01:19:22.640 get to say

01:19:23.540 you shouldn't

01:19:24.540 be watching

01:19:25.020 porn?

01:19:25.400 If it's

01:19:27.240 the only

01:19:27.680 thing that

01:19:28.160 takes the

01:19:28.820 fire out

01:19:30.320 of their 1.00

01:19:30.580 brains,

01:19:32.800 who are

01:19:33.620 we to

01:19:33.960 say they

01:19:34.320 can't do

01:19:34.740 it?

01:19:35.700 Well, I

01:19:35.920 mean, it's

01:19:36.140 not illegal,

01:19:36.960 so I guess

01:19:37.660 there's that.

01:19:41.440 Another

01:19:41.960 question is,

01:19:43.240 would it be

01:19:43.820 more noble

01:19:44.620 if you

01:19:46.020 didn't watch

01:19:46.660 any porn,

01:19:47.840 but you

01:19:48.420 just used

01:19:49.020 your hand

01:19:49.540 and your

01:19:49.880 imagination?

01:19:51.800 Are we

01:19:52.320 saying that's

01:19:52.900 better?

01:19:53.820 is it

01:19:56.060 the fact

01:19:57.300 that looking

01:19:57.860 at the

01:19:58.280 porn is

01:19:59.960 faster or

01:20:01.100 more fun?

01:20:02.620 But if you

01:20:03.400 just use your

01:20:04.100 imagination,

01:20:04.980 oh, well,

01:20:05.400 that's okay.

01:20:06.400 That's not an

01:20:07.100 addiction.

01:20:07.880 If you just

01:20:08.680 use your

01:20:09.100 imagination,

01:20:10.600 really?

01:20:12.320 What if

01:20:12.920 somebody doesn't

01:20:13.500 have a good

01:20:13.960 imagination?

01:20:16.460 Should they

01:20:17.780 be talked

01:20:18.980 out of using

01:20:19.620 porn?

01:20:23.440 What happens 0.98

01:20:24.320 if women 0.99

01:20:24.880 can't compete 0.93

01:20:25.600 with porn?

01:20:26.220 Is that 0.61

01:20:26.480 the man's

01:20:26.980 fault?

01:20:28.240 If you're

01:20:28.960 a man and

01:20:30.420 you looked at

01:20:30.980 all your

01:20:31.320 options and

01:20:31.940 you said,

01:20:32.300 you know

01:20:32.500 what?

01:20:33.120 There's

01:20:33.460 nobody here

01:20:34.180 who's available

01:20:34.980 that I

01:20:35.440 would want

01:20:35.980 to have 1.00

01:20:36.220 sex with. 0.99

01:20:37.200 They're just

01:20:37.860 not competitive.

01:20:39.420 Is that

01:20:40.040 the man's

01:20:40.680 fault?

01:20:41.520 Do we

01:20:41.860 blame the

01:20:42.360 man because

01:20:44.080 there's nobody

01:20:45.040 he'd want

01:20:45.580 to have 0.99

01:20:45.840 sex with? 1.00

01:20:46.420 That's a 0.99

01:20:49.120 question.

01:20:51.700 Have you

01:20:52.380 ever noticed

01:20:52.920 that when

01:20:54.080 celebrities

01:20:54.840 have a

01:20:57.200 sexual 0.60

01:20:57.880 addiction,

01:20:59.040 like the

01:20:59.620 celebrity is 0.98

01:21:00.280 having sex 0.99

01:21:01.620 with three 1.00

01:21:02.140 women a 1.00

01:21:02.620 day,

01:21:02.820 like Charlie

01:21:03.440 Sheen,

01:21:04.800 that we

01:21:05.200 call it a

01:21:05.960 sex addiction?

01:21:09.040 But people

01:21:09.960 who don't

01:21:10.560 have access

01:21:11.200 to unlimited

01:21:11.880 women whenever 0.50

01:21:12.860 they want,

01:21:14.460 then it's a

01:21:15.820 porn addiction.

01:21:16.420 but isn't 0.65

01:21:18.660 it just men 0.68

01:21:19.420 having access

01:21:20.560 to the most

01:21:21.340 sexual

01:21:21.960 outlets they

01:21:22.720 can get in

01:21:23.440 whatever way

01:21:24.140 they can,

01:21:25.280 just like all

01:21:26.160 of American

01:21:27.540 or actually

01:21:28.620 all of human

01:21:29.300 history?

01:21:30.560 So you

01:21:31.280 don't have to

01:21:31.720 have answers

01:21:32.220 to all those

01:21:32.780 questions.

01:21:33.440 I would just

01:21:33.800 like to put

01:21:34.320 out the fact

01:21:34.900 that I

01:21:36.880 don't think

01:21:37.220 there's one

01:21:37.840 answer for

01:21:38.600 everybody.

01:21:40.840 I believe

01:21:41.320 that,

01:21:41.940 you know,

01:21:42.880 if you're,

01:21:44.200 I hate to

01:21:45.080 pick an

01:21:45.480 actual example,

01:21:46.220 but I

01:21:46.800 will.

01:21:47.380 If you're

01:21:47.960 in a

01:21:48.200 wheelchair

01:21:48.520 and you

01:21:49.920 just don't

01:21:51.000 have access

01:21:51.580 to the

01:21:52.100 kind of

01:21:52.580 sex that 0.72

01:21:53.200 you would 0.99

01:21:53.440 want with

01:21:53.920 the kind

01:21:54.380 of people

01:21:54.800 you'd be

01:21:55.200 attracted to,

01:21:56.960 can that

01:21:57.780 guy in the

01:21:58.440 wheelchair not

01:21:59.100 watch all

01:21:59.560 the porn he 0.99

01:22:00.040 wants for

01:22:01.180 any reason he

01:22:01.940 wants because 0.88

01:22:02.500 it's none of 1.00

01:22:03.000 your damn 1.00

01:22:03.320 business? 1.00

01:22:03.740 so I

01:22:06.040 just have a

01:22:06.480 little push 0.95

01:22:06.860 back on

01:22:07.280 that.

01:22:08.080 That's

01:22:08.360 all.

01:22:08.620 Just

01:22:08.760 something to

01:22:09.120 think about

01:22:09.540 for today.

01:22:11.660 All right,

01:22:12.200 ladies and 0.98

01:22:12.640 gentlemen,

01:22:13.000 that's all I

01:22:13.400 got for you

01:22:13.940 for today.

01:22:15.700 I'm going to

01:22:16.260 talk to the

01:22:16.980 people on

01:22:17.920 Locals

01:22:18.340 privately if

01:22:19.420 my private

01:22:20.900 Locals button

01:22:21.620 is working

01:22:22.060 today.

01:22:23.280 And the

01:22:24.260 rest of you,

01:22:25.040 thanks for

01:22:25.360 joining.

01:22:25.760 I'll see you

01:22:26.140 same time

01:22:26.680 next week.

01:22:28.600 No,

01:22:28.860 not next

01:22:29.260 week.

01:22:29.600 Tomorrow.

01:22:30.760 See you

01:22:31.060 the same

01:22:31.360 time

01:22:31.580 tomorrow.

01:22:33.020 All right,

01:22:33.320 Locals,

01:22:34.200 let's see if

01:22:34.720 we can go

01:22:35.200 private.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - April 25, 2025

Episode 2820 CWSA 04⧸25⧸25

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