Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2864 CWSA 06⧸10⧸25

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00:01:32.240 extraordinary all right so according to just the news

00:01:39.360 uh ben weeden is reporting that uh that musk and trump have spoken on the phone is that confirmed

00:01:51.440 in the comments you can tell me if that's really something to happen but if it's true it's the uh

00:02:01.040 most predictable possible outcome because you knew at some point they were going to talk

00:02:07.200 you know obviously if they had to talk and you knew that they wouldn't keep it

00:02:16.800 ramped up to you know 10 so they were going to ramp it down which they have and it looks like they may

00:02:23.840 have agreed to just stop uh insulting each other on social media so maybe they maybe i don't know it

00:02:34.480 wasn't on the call but maybe uh all they did is uh decide it wasn't good to insult each other in public

00:02:44.320 because i i can't imagine a scenario in which uh trump said look you know let's just pass this bill and

00:02:56.160 you know it supports uh conservative stuff you like and and then everything's fine

00:03:03.200 i feel like there must be a second part of this where maybe trump said you know we'll get to those savings

00:03:13.200 but that's a future step we'll see well in other news the fda has approved lab grown salmon

00:03:27.200 according to popular science so it's a cultivated fish

00:03:33.200 i wonder why they would choose salmon first maybe it's the most popular i don't know um

00:03:41.360 but the fda has now greenlit the project and if you want to grow your own salmon well i don't know

00:03:50.640 if you can do it on your own but um there's already one restaurant that's serving it now doesn't it seem to

00:04:00.480 you that you wouldn't need that much equipment to grow your own salmon because they start with some cells

00:04:10.800 and then i think they just uh keep it in some kind of environment that's right you know php and acid

00:04:18.240 and whatever and it just grows it seems to me that uh that wouldn't take up much space

00:04:27.360 for how much they might produce so you'd get sick of one one kind of fish but if you could grow multiple

00:04:36.560 fish in a device that was let's say as big as your maybe your barbecue or you know your oven

00:04:45.760 um and it could feed your family all the protein you needed would you build one so that you add one

00:04:57.760 or would it cost as much to uh to make the fish as you know the fish would cost if you bought it i don't know

00:05:05.920 uh huh i i think this uh might be a maybe not for you but for some people it might let them live off the grid

00:05:17.600 because i i always thought that was the last thing because we know how to make water out of the air

00:05:24.640 we know how to make electricity out of the sun and we know how to store it in a battery

00:05:31.840 so we know how to grow you know lettuce and uh crappy vegetables in a indoor garden

00:05:39.360 but we didn't know how to make a protein that somebody would eat probably getting closer

00:05:48.320 anyway uh greta tonberg um as you know was one of the the biggest influencers and the uh 1.00

00:05:59.200 climate change conversation and so she uh decided to change her focus recently and was gonna go with a

00:06:10.320 bunch of other people and uh try to talk to people in gaza i guess so she was going to be a an activist

00:06:20.480 going to israel and visiting gaza and taking some selfies

00:06:26.080 uh but instead of that the idf uh detained them and put them on a plane and sent her home

00:06:37.120 to which i say greta this wasn't your best work

00:06:43.680 if all it took was uh the idf to say all right you're done get back to this plane

00:06:50.640 uh that's the weakest protest of all time so in the uh anals anals i don't want to say annals uh of

00:07:03.120 history this might be uh one of the least effective protests of all time and she's back on an airplane 0.93

00:07:12.240 and should be landing in new jersey or wherever um but other news that is ceo mark zuckerberg

00:07:23.840 uh according to axios is uh creating this uh super intelligence team to work for him and they'll be

00:07:33.520 building the world's most advanced ai platform now let me give you the uh the dilbert filter

00:07:42.800 on that if you were one of the biggest most important tech companies such as meta and you

00:07:52.880 were in the age of ai but you didn't really have much to add to it you know you were sort of a follower

00:08:02.880 wouldn't you still feel like you needed to pretend you were a leader

00:08:07.680 i think you would just for your own stock price so i remember working at the phone company

00:08:17.440 and if there was a new technology that would signal that your company was you know right on the bleeding

00:08:25.520 edge of good stuff we would pay a lot of money to pretend we were doing something in that space

00:08:32.960 now we didn't say it that way but if you were near it you knew that you weren't being fronted enough

00:08:41.840 or staffed in a way that you would be influencing this whole technology you would just be sort of

00:08:48.960 pretending that you were doing something in that space it makes me wonder if if zuckerberg really

00:08:58.320 thinks that they're gonna you know get the lead on whatever elon musk is doing with ai and whatever

00:09:06.640 uh chat gbt is doing and whether they think okay if we get the right staff and we pay enough for the

00:09:13.520 enough for the people and we fund them enough and we put enough you know management attention on it

00:09:20.960 we'll be able to uh create this you know new ai platform that's better than anything anybody's ever

00:09:29.120 seen maybe possibly or it's possible that you just need to demonstrate that you're in that space

00:09:39.920 so your stock doesn't go down speaking of which apple is at the worldwide developers conference

00:09:49.920 uh which is where companies like to announce you know upgrades and you know new features

00:09:57.760 and it doesn't look like they're gonna have much to say about ai at all so

00:10:04.400 do you think apple stock went up or down when the investors found out they don't have much to say

00:10:14.160 about ai again i think it went down now uh that was maybe an hour ago so so you have to keep an eye on

00:10:25.280 that but my uh dilbert filter is that if you're not at least pretending to do a lot with ai

00:10:32.240 you're gonna have lower stock so anyway um we'll see if zuckerberg can do it again

00:10:42.400 and come up with a an ai that wows us claudia was leaving for her pickleball tournament i've been

00:10:49.040 visualizing my match all week she was so focused on visualizing that she didn't see the column behind

00:10:54.640 her car on her backhand side good thing claudia is with intact the insurer with the largest network 1.00

00:11:00.960 of auto service centers in the country everything was taken care of under one roof and she was on

00:11:05.680 her way in a rental car in no time i made it to my tournament and lost in the first round but you 1.00

00:11:11.600 got there on time intact insurance your auto service ace certain conditions apply well speaking of the

00:11:20.320 big beautiful bill um speaker jocelyn is warning people to warning his own team the republicans

00:11:30.960 uh not to get all uh worked up about the salt uh deductions now if you're not in a state where that matters

00:11:40.720 you don't know what salt uh stands for so it's s-a-l-t and it stands for state and local tax which is

00:11:52.320 at least uh historically had been a deduction so if you paid a lot of taxes in your

00:12:00.480 states like california does you would get to you know deduct that from your federal taxes

00:12:07.520 but um so there's a version of that that it went away but there's a version of that being put back

00:12:16.720 into this big beautiful bill with some caps so it's not like it used to be so for example in my case

00:12:26.800 it would make almost no difference because there's a cap on it but uh here's what you need to know

00:12:34.160 speaker johnson wants to know that if you mess with salt you're gonna get peppered that's right

00:12:41.760 you're gonna get peppered by other politicians who say hey stop it we gotta get this bill passed

00:12:48.800 the other thing uh trump introduced by the way he seems to be slowing down on the executive orders

00:12:58.160 which is probably good because i don't know how you could do that many executive orders

00:13:04.800 as he did in the first hundred days and just like keep going so we're we're in a little bit in the summer

00:13:14.160 the summer doldrums so my you know my show won't be as long and the the topics will be artificial

00:13:22.240 elected the riots we'll talk about that but uh trump has uh introduced the idea i guess he signed

00:13:32.000 something that would uh provide a thousand dollars per american baby um and that would be pegged to some 0.99

00:13:41.680 index so it's automatically invested and i assume it would be like the s b index or something and then

00:13:50.240 it would be open to other people making donations and the idea would be to make uh children um investors

00:14:01.440 from day one now it's not necessarily going to teach those children anything but by the time they reach 18

00:14:11.680 especially if their relatives or their business or something else has uh donated to the accounts

00:14:18.880 it should be non-trivial you know it's not going to pay for college um but we might not be going to

00:14:26.480 college by then it might pay for um virtual college you know i think a lot of the college will be online and

00:14:37.760 uh so it might pay for that so i like the idea um i just said

00:14:48.160 a thousand dollars and then maybe another thousand dollars of bitcoin what do you think would be

00:14:56.160 better for a baby born today a thousand us dollars or a thousand dollars worth of bitcoin

00:15:08.160 well i'll tell you which way i'm gonna go

00:15:10.160 i would definitely go with the bitcoin now now the bitcoin could be worth nothing in these 18 years

00:15:19.280 you know because who knows quantum computing might you know make it too hard to to hide your stuff i don't

00:15:28.000 know so there might be something coming that makes bitcoin worth nothing but if i had to bet

00:15:35.520 you know a thousand dollars a bitcoin today that's more likely going to pay for your entire college

00:15:45.520 than if you put in a thousand dollars anyway

00:15:48.240 um let's check in with the wordplay of our favorite uh people we're watching the democrats

00:15:57.680 so here's a uh here's a post from bernie sanders he says uh dr king defeated racist government

00:16:07.920 officials and ended segregation through discipline non-violent resistance

00:16:13.920 but he goes on he says defeating trumpism oligarchy and authoritarianism requires that same level of

00:16:24.960 discipline uh then he points out that violent protests are counterproductive and play right into

00:16:33.440 trump's playbook so bernie is completely aware that the current situation is highly

00:16:42.720 uh beneficial uh beneficial to trump's reputation and not the democrats so i always have to give bernie some 0.96

00:16:52.400 credit as you know crazy and useless as he is sometimes 0.77

00:17:00.560 he does at least tell the truth when other democrats are having trouble doing it 0.98

00:17:06.560 this would be one of those times yes this is very good for trump it's very bad for the people who are

00:17:15.040 trying to make a point on the street and we'll talk about that because you know it doesn't matter until

00:17:23.360 the last inning who's ahead but here's what uh caught my attention in bernie sanders uh post

00:17:31.040 he started out with oligarchy so aoc and bernie were going to go fight the oligarchy and i thought that

00:17:41.840 was funny because nobody knows what the oligarchy is but now he's uh now we've got trumpism oligarchy and

00:17:52.000 authoritarianism and you're going to need discipline to defeat them

00:17:56.320 what kind of discipline are you going to need to defeat them and how many people could define them

00:18:06.000 if you were to stop a democrat on the street and say can you define trumpism what exactly would they

00:18:15.840 say i think they might say oh trumpism is authoritarianism and oligarchy and then you'd say

00:18:24.800 why well what is oligarchy and somebody would say well oligarchy is you know when you put trumpism and

00:18:32.240 authoritarianism together well what is authoritarianism well it's like trumpism plus oligarchy

00:18:41.280 all of this is this big circular word soup where they've got words but nothing seems to carry any real

00:18:50.400 meaning or policy or uh ideas or preferences or or anything they're just these big words so at least i got

00:19:03.840 that going for them so bernie sanders wants you to worry about trumpism oligarchyism no just oligarchy and

00:19:12.160 authoritarianism and authoritarianism those will really get you going won't they

00:19:20.640 if somebody came to your house and said hey join me in the streets uh we're going to be protesting

00:19:29.120 the trumpism oligarchy and authoritarianism

00:19:32.800 would would that get you going would you be all yes finally somebody's going to protest the things

00:19:42.480 i care about the most you know not feeding my family or being safe from a crime but trumpism

00:19:50.480 and then uh nancy pelosi weighed in so she's uh got around a little word play here

00:19:58.960 um and she says the trump administration's escalation and provocation in california

00:20:08.080 inflames tension and incites violence now the president of the united states said he would arrest

00:20:15.360 the sitting american governor just for disagreeing with these actions okay that obviously that didn't

00:20:22.960 happen not with not not the just for disagreeing part um this is a hallmark of authoritarianism on the

00:20:32.240 road to tyranny and all americans should be shocked and appalled by the president's blatant disregard for

00:20:40.800 our constitutional system so again it's just words so it's a hallmark of authoritarianism on the road to tyranny

00:20:54.960 so somebody knocks on your door and says we got a big problem in this country

00:21:02.720 we've got uh we've got the hallmarks of authoritarianism on the road to tyranny

00:21:09.040 really that sounds terrible what are they doing exactly well well uh they're sending in the military

00:21:19.360 to reduce the odds uh that will uh lose property that belongs to the public and uh reduce the odds of violence

00:21:29.520 uh but uh you said there was a hallmark of authoritarianism well that is that is they're they're also

00:21:40.400 threatening to arrest the governor who's begging to be arrested except when trump says that he's kind of

00:21:48.160 smiling so how many of you saw what uh trump actually said these actual words because he didn't really say

00:22:00.400 he wants to arrest gavin newsom he was kind of joking about it um we'll get to that when i found out my

00:22:09.440 friend got a great deal on a wool coat from winners i started wondering is every fabulous item i see from

00:22:16.240 winners like that woman over there with the designer jeans are those from winners ooh are those beautiful 1.00

00:22:22.640 gold earrings did she pay full price or that leather tote or that cashmere sweater or those knee-high boots

00:22:28.800 that dress that jacket those shoes is anyone paying full price for anything stop wondering

00:22:35.440 start winning winners find fabulous for less anyway um so some words you got your tyranny and your

00:22:47.280 authoritarianism so that'll get your blood run um and then uh then of course the democrats have uh this one

00:22:59.600 play that they use for everything it's just one play they sue

00:23:06.080 so newsom and california are suing the trump administration for deploying the national guard

00:23:13.920 to los angeles now let me ask you this if you were a property property owner or a business owner of any of

00:23:25.760 those businesses that are where the protests are happening do you think you'd want the national guard there

00:23:33.120 a little bit a little bit i think you would i think you would yeah so this the suing is over some kind of

00:23:43.600 process question that the uh the governor should have been informed or should have signed off on it or

00:23:50.640 something like that but if you were to if you were just to ask the public do you want the national guard

00:23:58.320 to be there just to make sure things don't get out of control and you know there were people lighting

00:24:04.240 cars on fire and throwing rocks from overpasses onto cars uh do you want more of that or do you want some

00:24:13.200 national guard to you know make sure there's uh at least a military well let's say law enforcement in this

00:24:21.280 case presence i think most people would agree with trump would they so let's look at uh all right just one

00:24:33.840 one more thing um i saw the uh video on the maize account on x and it's a 2007 video of joe biden before

00:24:48.320 his brain was totally fried uh you should watch a old video of biden uh you know under today's uh

00:24:58.160 understanding of how bad it got he used to be a fast talking reasonably smart guy so here's something

00:25:09.120 he said uh in 2007 he was asked if he were president would he allow sanctuary cities to exist this is 2007.

00:25:20.480 his answer was no he said that uh sanctuary cities turned into dumps and the only reason they

00:25:28.000 exist is because the federal government doesn't enforce the law so in other words biden was

00:25:36.800 exactly where trump is basically and uh that's back when his brain was working

00:25:44.000 it's really the sort of thing that tells you that whatever did happen with biden later

00:25:49.920 he wasn't running anything there's just no way that this same biden from 2007 was the open border biden

00:26:02.000 sanctuary cities are great i mean something happened to him that was just terrible anyway so from a

00:26:09.600 persuasion perspective the la riots are um pretty much everything trump would want

00:26:18.160 not it's the gift that keeps on giving the democrats just haven't figured out 0.99

00:26:26.880 how any of this works it's like they they just keep doing things that are the dumbest thing you could 0.87

00:26:33.760 possibly do in that situation so first of all um i think all the polls show that the public by majority

00:26:44.800 supports what trump wants to do for immigration so they're working against the majority

00:26:53.200 next the law apparently is on trump's side on this one now the lawsuit thing had to do with some

00:27:00.960 technicality but in terms of the law trump has the legal right under certain circumstances that seem to

00:27:10.320 have been met to uh add some military and take control of the uh uh the national guard for exactly this sort of

00:27:21.040 situation so he's got the law on his side he's got the public on his side and then um

00:27:30.720 if i if i ever taught you well i guess everybody who's read my book win bigly knows this

00:27:37.520 but if i were to ask you what are the two most powerful methods of persuasion would you know the answer

00:27:48.480 the top two methods of persuasion now it's kind of a trick question because you know it's there's a

00:27:57.840 a little bit more to it but the top two are fear fear and visual persuasion so if you want to persuade

00:28:09.760 somebody of anything if you can say if you don't do this or you do this you'll all die if you can scare

00:28:19.840 somebody that is really good persuasion so look at the uh all the recurring video of the riots what does

00:28:30.720 the news want to show you well the news wants to show you whatever is spectacular and you know uh flaming

00:28:41.200 and dangerous and dangerous and whatever so the news is going to loop all the dangerous stuff so that

00:28:49.440 picture of the the one young man holding the mexican flag while standing on a burning american car

00:28:57.840 how many times have you seen that so far a lot right now that's a really scary image

00:29:06.000 because you think to yourself uh oh there's people here willing to burn things and you know create

00:29:13.440 some degree of violence and at least some of them are waving a flag from a country that's not yours

00:29:21.760 you know how scary is that like even if you've rationalized it as a you know as a let's say a jaded

00:29:33.120 viewer of the news and you just said to yourself oh this will pass you know it's not gonna last forever

00:29:39.920 there's something that just sort of reaches your animal core when you see somebody burning

00:29:47.360 burning stuff that belongs to your government or your country and they're waving a flag of another

00:29:55.040 country so the fear of persuasion is pretty high just naturally baked into the situation so that works

00:30:06.400 really well for trump's perspective and then as i said the visual persuasion

00:30:12.640 uh is always at the top of the list so if you were trying to influence somebody with sound you know

00:30:20.320 just words it wouldn't work nearly as well as you know the right kind of pictures and these are

00:30:27.120 definitely the right kind of pictures uh if you're trump so you got the two strongest forms of persuasion

00:30:36.480 working in trump's favor to make the sanctuary cities look like they're dangerous and chaotic

00:30:45.200 which would make you want to not have a sanctuary city or not want to live in one

00:30:50.480 and uh it's going to be endless it's just going to be loop after loop of loop of these scary visuals yeah

00:30:58.480 there's the gentleman on the motorcycle with the mexican flag so that's all working for trump so trump's

00:31:07.920 got the american public on his side he's got the law on his side and he's got the two strongest forms of

00:31:17.200 persuasion that just sort of naturally exist you know it's not like anything he did that are very much in

00:31:25.600 his favor um it also keeps the topic of immigration in the news which is uh probably the one topic where

00:31:36.560 trump consistently is in the majority so if you were the democrats would you want to keep the topic of

00:31:45.840 immigration as the number one news item all summer that would be the worst thing you could do

00:31:54.160 because that topic is not in your favor but that's what's happening so he's got the so trump has the

00:32:01.520 news cycle in his favor um it also gives trump a opportunity to show his main theme which is you're

00:32:12.960 not going to need any violence if you have a strength so he comes in hard and fast with lots of strength

00:32:21.840 the national guard and i guess submarines are being um operationalized and will it work well it will

00:32:36.080 but there's a risk right the risk is that somebody gets carried away and you know one of the military

00:32:43.760 people with a scary rifles and some shooting someone and it won't matter what the circumstances are

00:32:50.800 it won't matter how guilty that person is it will only matter that it happens or it doesn't happen

00:32:57.200 now so far it would appear that the national guard and the military don't have any kind of orders to

00:33:06.400 shoot anybody for anything so we don't know what the actual orders are but if it does have the effect

00:33:14.640 which is most likely it could go it might go the other way but most likely you're going to see that

00:33:23.920 strength and fast action are effective and that's what trump would like you to know about

00:33:34.720 dealing with crime dealing with the border dealing with ukraine dealing with china

00:33:41.840 it's always the same thing it's like let's have overwhelming power and then nobody needs to get hurt

00:33:51.200 so that's working in his favor um and then the images of the mexican flags

00:33:58.640 and uh the people standing on the burning cars i don't think that could possibly be better

00:34:07.440 for trump than anything i could think of it's the flag that really just sends it into the next level of

00:34:15.440 you know anti-persuasion so there's that so there you go so trump has working his favor the majority of 0.99

00:34:26.400 the american people the laws on his side um he's making newsom and bass look like uh idiots because 0.97

00:34:35.120 they can't stop this on their own he's making the sanctuary cities look bad he's not doing anything to make 0.97

00:34:42.160 it look bad it's just the situation does that he's showing uh he's keeping immigration in the news which

00:34:50.240 is good for him he's got the strongest forms of persuasion working on the side and uh he's demonstrating

00:34:58.880 his you know key principle of uh overwhelming strength to avoid violence how does this get better

00:35:13.280 no honestly i i saw was it uh bernie or somebody said that uh the the high ground oh no it wasn't him

00:35:24.800 we'll get to him

00:35:28.880 so let me get to that in its normal way

00:35:34.480 all right so uh 700 marines deployed and we might get up to 5 000 troops there would be a combination of

00:35:45.280 mostly uh mostly national guard but some of these marines as well all right so we got that going for

00:35:54.880 us so there was a big uh back and forth between gavin newsom and trump on this question of uh arresting him

00:36:03.360 now gavin being the theater kid that he is wanted to make a big deal and if you want to arrest these

00:36:10.960 people you arrest me come arrest me you know so he was trying to be the hero now it doesn't really work on

00:36:18.800 him because there's something so you know non genuine about anything he does that it's really hard to

00:36:29.120 believe that you know he would really want to take the punishment for somebody else or you know arrest

00:36:36.400 me first but we do assume that he would love the visual of it because it would look like authoritarianism

00:36:44.560 and then they could use those videos forever so it doesn't make sense for tom holman to arrest newsom

00:36:53.360 and remember newsom was originally talking to tom holman so he wasn't talking to trump when he said

00:37:01.280 arrest me and uh tom holman i think has been consistent which is that it wouldn't matter who it is if

00:37:10.800 somebody is breaking the law uh which would include preventing them from doing their job that there

00:37:18.400 might be a case where somebody might get arrested and it could be a governor so it's it's just sort of

00:37:26.320 sitting out there as a threat and something to talk about i i don't think it's doesn't seem very likely

00:37:33.440 it's going to happen but uh so trump was asked uh should tom holman arrest newsom now remember

00:37:43.520 they're not asking if trump would do it as president you know order it uh they asked if tom holman should do

00:37:52.960 it which suggests to me uh without saying it should he do it if the situation called for it

00:38:02.800 not just for fun yeah but if the situation clearly called for it and newsom was clearly violating some law

00:38:14.800 then would it make sense for tom holman to make his own decision about arresting him anyway trump said

00:38:23.040 i would do it if i were tom now i always tell you that trump always finds the most provocative thing to say

00:38:31.840 so that you can't forget anything he ever says well the most provocative thing is i would do it if i

00:38:40.880 were tom what he's not saying is that he would order it as president or that you know he would do it as

00:38:50.080 president he's just saying if i were in that job and he obstructed my you know my legal authority to do

00:38:58.160 this work i might arrest him now i think the reality is the odds of them arresting a sitting governor

00:39:07.840 especially this one who likes the publicity pretty low but but i still i do kind of like the fact that

00:39:15.760 he puts it out there like he's not taking it off the table but i also don't take it seriously so if

00:39:24.880 you're a very casual watcher of the news you might take it seriously but if you're let's say a news junkie

00:39:34.000 like most of you are how about if you take that seriously that governor newsom might get arrested

00:39:42.560 i mean you could imagine it if he you know really ran down and started pushing

00:39:49.840 ice officers out of the way to you know to rescue some somebody who was being arrested you could

00:39:57.280 imagine that but really i mean not really it's not even a real thing so it's sort of summer news

00:40:07.760 summer news is someone might arrest uh the governor of california real news nobody's going to arrest the

00:40:16.320 governor of california unless he really really tried hard to get arrested and that would just look

00:40:23.760 different um but then uh trump says after trump says uh i would do it if i were tom he says gavin likes

00:40:33.680 the publicity but he's done a terrible job so the fact that trump knowingly says that uh gavin would like

00:40:43.280 the publicity the publicity it means they're all operating with the same understanding of what this

00:40:49.360 really is it's not really a law enforcement question it's not it's not even a serious hypothetical really

00:40:59.280 it's just something to talk about in the summer

00:41:04.000 anyway so then uh gavin newsom decides to you know leap on what trump says he says the president of the

00:41:12.560 united states just called for the arrest of a sitting governor no he didn't he was asked what he would

00:41:21.200 do if he were in a different job he did not call for the arrest of a sitting governor that would look

00:41:28.960 very different and you would know it if he did it so gavin starts out with a lie that's

00:41:35.680 well close enough to the topic in question that people aren't gonna you know maybe even notice this lie

00:41:44.320 so they're gonna say wow the president united states called for the arrest of a sitting governor

00:41:50.480 not really but uh he goes on uh this is a day i hoped i would never see in america

00:41:56.960 now we're gonna see some theatrical drama you ready i don't care if you're a democrat or republican

00:42:06.720 this is a line we cannot cross as a nation this is an unmistakable step toward guess what authoritarianism

00:42:17.440 that's right authoritarianism so apparently the new word of the day is authoritarianism

00:42:26.400 pelosi's using it and bernie's using it and now newsom is using it and i guess their idea is that

00:42:36.400 if they show a bunch of you know armed people in the city that uh at least maybe democrats will say

00:42:45.840 well look at those armed people in the city that are being ordered there by trump

00:42:52.320 only in authoritarianism oh no only enough

00:42:57.680 somebody interested in authoritarianism would do such a thing but how much of the country do you think

00:43:05.760 thinks that way especially after living through the floyd riots and the blm and the antifa

00:43:13.840 and even the the tesla um burnings i feel like most of us would like to see more law enforcement

00:43:24.000 as long as they're in the right place doing the right stuff which apparently they are it's not it's

00:43:30.480 not like you randomly put the military into detroit or something you know there was there was a specific

00:43:36.720 you know risk of violence and there was a known way to handle it which is put in enough law enforcement

00:43:46.320 and so trump did that i don't think that's gonna work in newsom's favor and then jd vance weighed in

00:43:55.040 uh and posted at uh on x at newsom he said uh do your job that's all we're asking

00:44:06.880 do your job that's all we're asking now that made me wonder the following do you think jd vance

00:44:15.840 needs to get permission from trump's team before he does a post like that

00:44:26.880 because when he says uh do your job that's all we're asking he's basically downplaying the we're

00:44:33.920 gonna arrest you thing yeah as if that were never serious in the first place just do your job

00:44:39.520 like we're we're not asking anything extraordinary just you know do your job so that's a pretty good

00:44:48.080 post but don't you wonder if jt has the trust of the administration to do that specific kind of a post

00:44:59.760 or does he have to run it by somebody i would say i don't know but i'm gonna make a guess

00:45:10.240 and my guess is that jd has proven himself to the point where he does not need to run that by anybody

00:45:19.440 because he is such a good communicator and he understands perfectly you know what the president

00:45:26.160 intends and he understands the base perfectly so this was a good post um because it you know took it

00:45:36.400 out of that will arrest you mode and took it down to just do your job so then gavin newsom falls into

00:45:44.160 the trap and uh he goes with the job theme so he responds back to jd vance he says do your job we

00:45:55.120 didn't have a problem until trump got involved rescind the order return control to california now

00:46:02.240 rescind the order i think means the uh the national guard order so

00:46:12.080 so jd vance effectively changed the conversation from arresting a governor to are you doing your job or

00:46:22.240 not and then newsom fell into the trap of instead of saying no no the real issue is

00:46:30.640 somebody trying to arrest the governor for no reason he just went with the job thing and just said you

00:46:37.520 know about your job do your job do you think that many americans believe that trump is a reason that the

00:46:47.440 protests are getting out of hand well maybe if they have just a very pro sanctuary city you know idea it kind

00:46:59.680 of makes sense but i don't think most people are going to think that are they it it doesn't really look like

00:47:08.080 like national guard causes riots don't you think riots cause the national guard to show up or or 0.98

00:47:17.920 there are people in the united states who are actually thinking you know what if that if that darn trump 0.94

00:47:25.200 deploys the national guard deploys the national guard riots are going to break out does anybody think that backwards 0.92

00:47:35.040 now i realize it's just team play so there's going to be plenty of people who you know come up with a

00:47:42.000 tortured explanation of why trump is the cause of sanctuary city riots because he's you know trying too hard with

00:47:51.440 uh immigration enforcement etc

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00:48:57.840 senator john fetterman posted this he said uh i unapologetically stand for free speech peaceful

00:49:07.920 demonstrations and immigration but that is uh but this is not that he said this is anarchy and true chaos

00:49:18.560 so it kind of looks like he's blaming his own side for anarchy and true chaos and then he says my party

00:49:27.840 loses the moral high ground when we refuse to condemn setting cars on fire destroying buildings and assaulting

00:49:35.920 law enforcement so there he is again um fetterman finds that kind of commonsensical you know american middle

00:49:50.240 but i think he missed the moral high ground he's saying the moral high ground would be to condemn

00:49:59.200 the setting of fire of cars and the violence and stuff like that now i think that would be a good thing to

00:50:05.040 happen i would love to see the democrats condemn all the forms of violence but it's not the highest high moral

00:50:16.080 high ground the higher moral high ground is you need to get your team to stop funding and organizing riots

00:50:27.200 you're not gonna you're gonna you're not gonna convince me that the real problem is that your observers

00:50:33.520 the democrats are the democrats are not observers they're members of a large political party whose allies

00:50:42.640 almost certainly are behind all of us now i'm not saying the democratic party is behind it but their allies

00:50:50.240 are i mean pretty obviously and clearly and yeah so the uh the high moral high moral high ground

00:51:00.240 is to stop funding it you know if you don't fund it is probably not going to happen because i like to say

00:51:08.480 again how many of the people who were you know at the protests um were thinking to themselves even two months

00:51:18.080 ago you know the most important thing i could do is risk my freedom and my health to protest

00:51:26.560 to protest sanctuary cities being uh being violated probably very few very few a few you know not zero but

00:51:40.160 very very few so this could not be more artificial and for democrats to pretend that it's just sort of

00:51:49.840 breaking out on its own it's not we're we're watching this as a wise seasoned observers of the news

00:52:02.240 and we knew this would happen what a year ago we can predict every summer we'll have a new fake democrat

00:52:11.280 protests here it is um and then uh byron york points out in a post on acts at the bottom of the riots in

00:52:23.920 california there's a city and state officials there want to have their own immigration law and they can't

00:52:31.120 have their own immigration law so again this is you know the lobbying on trump's side you can't really have

00:52:39.760 the states deciding their own immigration laws because imagine that would imagine if that's the law

00:52:49.440 then it wouldn't matter if the federal government said things were illegal you can't come across the

00:52:56.080 border as long as uh let's say california said yeah come on in borders open no problem

00:53:04.720 those those those cannot coexist so somebody some one entity needs to be in control of immigration

00:53:16.480 because you just can't you can't parse that out yeah as soon as you say you do what you want and i do

00:53:24.720 what i want somebody's going to have a big open border and then another state is going to be all right we're

00:53:31.200 going to try to stop everybody coming into our state but it won't make any difference because people will 1.00

00:53:36.640 just come in through the open port so there really isn't any situation in which anybody but the feds

00:53:46.640 are in control of immigration nothing else would work 0.99

00:53:53.120 all right um i saw pictures of an apple store getting looted in downtown l.a

00:54:02.160 and i wondered if any of you have the same feeling when i watched a crime happen 0.99

00:54:10.160 um i generally feel revulsion you know like oh god you know these these darn criminals and they should 0.91

00:54:19.520 be caught and go to jail and you know why didn't that retailer build a booby trap or you know so i'm 0.96

00:54:27.440 always saying the worst worst case scenario but for some reason whenever i see an apple store being

00:54:34.240 looted because you know it's happened quite a few times now i always think if you were a looter

00:54:41.520 that would be the most fun to loot have you ever watched the looters do a apple store and they

00:54:49.600 just go down the line grabbing each phone and you're ripping it off its little uh little cable

00:54:55.280 and it always like every every handful is like a thousand dollars it's like every phone they rip out

00:55:03.520 and take with them is like a thousand dollars but then i also wonder does apple not track every one of

00:55:10.560 those phones and can law enforcement not if they wanted to i mean probably wouldn't be worth the effort

00:55:20.160 could they not hunt down every one of those fake phone well every one of those stolen phones could apple

00:55:27.120 not send a code to each of those phones it just locks them up so they can't sell them i got lots of

00:55:36.000 questions about apple but uh i'm uh i'm not proud to admit that when i watch the looters rob the apple store

00:55:46.320 i think to myself huh if i were a looter that looks like a lot of fun i'm not encouraging it do not

00:55:57.360 loot an apple store but if you've paid for as many apple phones as i have uh you feel like apple has

00:56:06.880 been robbing you for years i'm just saying i don't recommend robbing i'm not in favor of it at all but

00:56:16.400 when i watch the looters take down an apple store it doesn't feel the same as when when they're

00:56:22.400 knocking off like a little grocery store or something like that that really bothers me

00:56:29.040 well robert rfk jr has ousted every member of the advisory committee on immunizations practices

00:56:39.840 so apparently there was an advisory committee that decided or at least recommended uh when vaccines

00:56:48.320 were necessary and when they should be used and uh so now rfk jr has got rid of every one of them

00:56:56.160 it makes you wonder what was it about every one of them that made them so replaceable

00:57:06.560 was it that they didn't use science or that they thought they did use science

00:57:12.800 science now i can see why you'd want to change them out even if you were putting equally qualified

00:57:20.880 people uh tobacco because once people have made a certain decision uh they're very unlikely to say

00:57:30.800 oh your new argument changes my mind and i guess i was wrong to recommend these vaccines for children or

00:57:38.560 whatever so it does make sense if you're looking to make potentially and you you don't even know for

00:57:46.720 sure but if you're potentially trying to make a big change such as you know changing

00:57:53.200 the vaccine recommendations you might have to get rid of all the people who have sort of settled into a 0.84

00:58:02.400 point of view because i i think they would be less likely to you know really take any new information

00:58:09.760 and incorporate it now that's just a statement about people in general it's not a it's not a statement

00:58:16.800 about any of these individuals but in general sometimes you just need a clean sweep as i think trump called it

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00:58:40.480 well let's check on some of the dumbest um democrats uh whoopee goldberg she believes the trump musk feud was 1.00

00:58:52.800 fake uh and she said on her show i love that y'all bought into it the trump musk feud and then elissa 0.98

00:59:02.960 fairer griffin said oh it's not fake it's not fake whoopee said i do believe it's fake

00:59:10.480 uh she said uh yes i do it's too strategic now how many of you as of today how many of you think that

00:59:22.480 was a fake disagreement and what fake disagreement involves all right here's the deal you call me a

00:59:33.120 pedophile and i'll say you have mental health problems in what world do people make that agreement 0.57

00:59:45.040 i mean seriously i i i understand the general idea that sometimes things are not what they seem and 0.97

00:59:55.120 sometimes people fake uh you know maybe fake a feud to get some attention so you know it's not like

01:00:02.880 those things don't happen but in the history of fake feuds has anybody ever said i'll call you a

01:00:11.040 pedophile and you you you say that i have mental health problems i don't think so or or drug problems

01:00:19.520 even worse so no whoopee i think we're well past was it fake or was it real it was real and then hakeem jeffries 1.00

01:00:34.720 speaking of dumb democrats um 0.98

01:00:40.080 he's still going after the masking of the ice agents and he actually said this in public 1.00

01:00:46.800 he said if they are proud of what they're doing meaning the masked ice agents if they're proud of what

01:00:56.720 they're doing why are they masked he goes this isn't the 30s why are they masked to which i ask 0.99

01:01:07.680 why would you ask such a stupid question is there even one person who is listening to this who 0.99

01:01:15.120 doesn't know why they're masked it's not because they're embarrassed of what they're doing 1.00

01:01:23.200 like for a moment i thought oh i should you know explain to my audience why they're masked and then 0.99

01:01:30.640 i thought to myself oh wait a minute there there aren't any freaking idiots in my audience 0.99

01:01:38.000 like you were all smart enough to turn on a digital device and 0.99

01:01:42.080 uh navigate to a show and then listen to it no every single one of you know why they need to wear

01:01:48.880 masks there's no mystery here whatsoever i don't need to explain it but hakeem jeffries

01:01:56.800 he doesn't understand so whoopee thinks that the trump musk thing was staged and hakeem jeffries

01:02:05.680 can't understand why people who would be at risk would want to recover their identities

01:02:14.640 now i assume he really does now but he thinks the other democrats won't what kind of weird game would 0.98

01:02:26.320 he be playing uh i think he would be playing the stupid one all right so microsoft has this big 0.88

01:02:35.040 conference every year called the build conference and i guess they used to do it in seattle but now 0.95

01:02:44.400 the uh according to the post millennial uh they've decided not to have them in seattle anymore because

01:02:51.760 seattle has turned into a cesspool of homeless people and dirt and crime and whatever else

01:03:02.000 so seattle lost one of its uh high profile events um and the issues cited were uh

01:03:13.120 rampant homelessness visible drug use and urban decay so just in case seattle was wondering

01:03:24.000 what is the difference between managing the city well and just letting it run on its own

01:03:31.280 well apparently you lose the microsoft money so that's not ideal um

01:03:42.480 there's some uh new good news

01:03:45.840 on the economy so almost all of the u.s job growth under trump is in the private sector

01:03:52.960 whereas 25 of that was under under biden 25 of it was in the government jobs now i was wondering how

01:04:03.600 exactly did biden and or trump determine where those jobs would be you know i guess i can see why the

01:04:14.400 government would not be adding as much under trump but uh it's good news either way

01:04:20.560 and then uh let me read just a summary from uh white house press secretary caroline levitt

01:04:31.280 um so the economy is booming she says jobs are up unemployment is down wages are increasing

01:04:42.960 and inflation is dead more than 139 000 good jobs were added to the private sector all accounted for by

01:04:51.760 american-american-born workers is all that true um i believe it is true i believe that uh individual

01:05:03.520 wages are up a little bit inflation seems to be you know under control relative to what it had been

01:05:12.240 uh jobs are up uh jobs are up unemployment's down everything's good except for except for what

01:05:26.080 the debt every time i hear anybody talking about the economy if they don't mention the national debt

01:05:35.200 you're not even talking about the economy we'd better find a way to handle that debt so the real question

01:05:45.440 will be this did anything that the uh little squabble between musk and trump that they had did any of that

01:05:56.320 lead to anything good um it wouldn't it wouldn't express itself yet but if in the subsequent uh budget

01:06:07.360 packages that are upcoming if it turns out that we do make some big cuts and maybe even ones that people

01:06:16.080 didn't expect that might suggest that musk you know made a dent and that uh trump knew that having

01:06:25.600 him on his side was better than not so we'll see um the i don't know what it would take

01:06:35.280 to make uh elon musk you know not comment on this topic for however long but i don't know that he would do it

01:06:45.760 unless he had some kind of assurances that you and i don't know about

01:06:50.480 and i don't think he would do it for assurances about you know ev credits or assurances about

01:06:59.920 spacex or anything although those would obviously matter to him i think it would have to be

01:07:07.120 assurances that they would take more seriously the the budget cuts in this upcoming process

01:07:13.920 so we'll see if that's the case all right who's the debt owed to a lot of it is owed to ban all

01:07:24.640 right ladies and gentlemen that's all i've got for today i'm going to talk to the uh folks on locals

01:07:30.960 privately uh hope you enjoyed the show and uh we'll see you again tomorrow morning same time same place

01:07:39.840 and uh we'll see some more uh some more persuasion lessons tomorrow accidental ones all right uh coming

01:07:50.080 at you privately locals the rest of you i hope to see you tomorrow thanks for joining

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Real Coffee with Scott Adams - June 10, 2025

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