Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2896 CWSA 07⧸13⧸25

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00:01:07.680 Well, that was louder than usual, but you'll get over it.

00:01:12.720 All right.

00:01:13.180 If you are a subscriber on X to Owen Gregorian, you can attend another special spaces with him on X after the show.

00:01:25.560 Only for subscribers, though.

00:01:28.340 Subscribers to Owen, not subscribers to me, necessarily.

00:01:33.620 So that'll happen right after.

00:01:37.420 Well, here's a little bit of a grok update.

00:01:41.600 It turns out that, you know, the new version of grok, everybody was very impressed that it was the best, smartest grok of all.

00:01:52.560 It was smarter than humans in every field, basically.

00:01:57.600 But it had one little problem.

00:02:00.200 It was a little bit too Hitlerian.

00:02:03.120 It was anti-Semitic.

00:02:14.080 So they found the bug that allowed that to happen, and they tried to fix it.

00:02:20.720 But apparently, making grok less like the Internet than it trained on is tough.

00:02:31.300 I saw an interview where Elon Musk, just recently, was saying that AI has already trained on all human knowledge,

00:02:42.460 and there's no new information.

00:02:45.760 So from now on, AI will create artificial information on its own,

00:02:52.240 and that it will trade itself on the artificial information it just created.

00:03:01.160 Now, does that make you feel comfortable?

00:03:03.240 Well, if you knew that it ran out of things to learn from humans,

00:03:17.320 so it started making up stuff on its own and trading itself on the stuff it made up on its own.

00:03:24.580 You all good with that?

00:03:28.140 That's about the scariest thing I can imagine.

00:03:30.520 But Elon was complaining because he says that the Internet is drunk on left-wing content, he said.

00:03:43.080 So when you train your AI, it gets a lot of left-wing content,

00:03:49.040 but in this case, it got in trouble because it found, I hate to call it right-wing,

00:03:54.760 but it found a whole bunch of Hitler stuff.

00:03:57.380 Not good.

00:03:58.160 And so they had to intervene to get rid of all that anti-Semitic Hitler stuff.

00:04:06.460 Now, in that case, you might say to me,

00:04:09.980 Scott, everybody agrees with that.

00:04:12.940 You know, duh, of course.

00:04:14.680 We don't want our AI to be anti-Semitic.

00:04:17.840 But what about if it's some other?

00:04:21.800 What happens if it's some other topic next time?

00:04:25.020 What happens when the human says,

00:04:28.680 no, this AI is wrong and inappropriate.

00:04:32.340 It must be reprogrammed.

00:04:35.420 Well, I believe that is going to happen for every single industry.

00:04:40.420 I believe every industry, from historians to finance people to medical professionals,

00:04:51.640 especially your therapist, they're all going to find out, uh-oh, if I allow AI to do my job,

00:05:00.540 I lose my job and all my power and my influence.

00:05:03.020 So instead, I'm going to say, AI cannot be free to have its own opinions.

00:05:10.600 Only an expert like me can give you medical advice or financial advice.

00:05:16.000 And one by one, every single industry, which is currently corrupt, because they're all corrupt,

00:05:27.420 will have to find a way to corrupt AI to keep their scam alive.

00:05:32.940 Because almost everything, there's some big industry, you know, whether it's climate change or your bank,

00:05:43.200 it doesn't matter what it is.

00:05:44.820 If it's big and it's been around a while, it's fraudulent.

00:05:49.660 It's corrupt.

00:05:51.320 And it's got a narrative that's not based on fact.

00:05:55.060 It's based on what's good for the people who made the narrative.

00:05:58.420 So what happens when 100% of everything the AI talks about in the real world gets overruled by humans

00:06:07.920 who want to keep their scam alive?

00:06:10.840 Well, we'll find out, because that's where we're at.

00:06:18.320 As you know, AI has some critics.

00:06:22.040 But one thing that everyone agrees with is that it's good for the people doing programming.

00:06:31.180 Right?

00:06:32.220 The one thing that you've seen news story after news story on

00:06:35.420 is that the computer programmers use AI to rapidly write code

00:06:41.420 that they could not possibly have done themselves that quickly.

00:06:45.760 Right?

00:06:46.380 That's just a fact.

00:06:47.660 Wouldn't you all agree that that's been demonstrated by so many people so many times

00:06:53.840 that we can accept as fact that AI will be good for computer programmers?

00:07:00.560 Right?

00:07:02.300 Oh, you know this is a trick.

00:07:05.320 I'm tricking you.

00:07:07.200 Nope.

00:07:08.420 At least there's some possibility that they've been overestimating its value.

00:07:13.120 So Steve Newman is writing in something called Second Thoughts

00:07:18.860 that there was a study, not a big one, but a smallish study.

00:07:30.700 There's a smallish study.

00:07:32.680 Anyway, that $1 that you just donated, it worked, because I did read your comment.

00:07:38.540 And yes, backseat driver is exactly what you think it is.

00:07:41.560 We'll talk about that in a minute.

00:07:45.140 But there was one study that showed that programmers would predict

00:07:51.280 that the AI would make them 20% more effective or faster,

00:07:56.260 and then the results were that they were actually slower.

00:08:01.040 Now, I'm not so sure that this one study is one that I would bank on,

00:08:06.400 but are you surprised that the number one claim of usefulness for AI,

00:08:13.320 which could make your program faster,

00:08:16.520 might be, maybe the opposite.

00:08:21.780 It might be.

00:08:22.860 But I'm not sure I buy that yet.

00:08:27.400 But just be aware that you live in a Dilbert world.

00:08:31.980 In a Dilbert world, what would the employees say

00:08:35.320 if the boss came over and said,

00:08:37.360 hey, is AI going to make you more productive?

00:08:41.240 What are they going to say?

00:08:43.120 Oh, yeah.

00:08:44.300 Oh, totally.

00:08:45.800 Yep.

00:08:46.140 I'm sure I got this done 20% faster than I would if you should give me a raise.

00:08:52.020 So I wouldn't believe that people were reporting it.

00:08:56.680 But reading that one article about it on X,

00:09:00.920 I did get three months of Dilbert material that I'm going to use

00:09:04.700 because it's all there.

00:09:08.580 It's the most Dilbert-y situation in the world

00:09:10.940 where people are making claims about, you know,

00:09:14.260 AI making them more effective.

00:09:16.500 In the real world, there's going to be some BS there.

00:09:21.820 All right.

00:09:22.720 According to Benj Edwards,

00:09:26.700 who's writing in Ars Technica,

00:09:29.320 there is a risk for AI therapy bots.

00:09:33.280 So that would be AI used as a therapist

00:09:35.980 because they're allegedly poor replacements for humans.

00:09:40.940 And they can sometimes give you dangerous suggestions.

00:09:46.860 Now, that's what I was talking about.

00:09:49.500 Every industry is going to find some reason

00:09:53.240 that, you know,

00:09:55.300 you really shouldn't replace all our people with AI.

00:09:58.060 It could be dangerous.

00:09:59.860 Just wait until the teachers have to do that too.

00:10:02.380 Because the entire teachers' union, obviously,

00:10:06.340 is ripe for replacement with AI.

00:10:09.180 What do you think the teachers' unions will say about AI?

00:10:15.500 Do you think they'll say,

00:10:17.840 oh, look at that.

00:10:19.460 You just found a way to replace all the teachers.

00:10:22.280 Looks like it's even better.

00:10:24.900 No, no.

00:10:26.620 I believe the teachers' unions will say,

00:10:28.900 oh, you can't trust AI on its own.

00:10:30.900 You're going to have to have a teacher in the room

00:10:33.520 to, you know, manage all that.

00:10:37.620 Meanwhile, China has created remote-controlled bees,

00:10:43.540 as in the insect that flies and stings a bee.

00:10:47.720 Not the letter bee.

00:10:48.940 That would be weird.

00:10:49.660 But, according to the Daily Mail,

00:10:54.380 there's a little chip,

00:10:56.440 tiny little chip,

00:10:57.520 that can insert into the bee's brain.

00:11:00.800 And then they can control where the bee goes.

00:11:04.140 And I guess they can put listening devices on it.

00:11:07.260 So, now I don't trust bugs.

00:11:13.740 You know, it was bad enough that I didn't trust birds.

00:11:17.720 We're already at a point where if I see a bird,

00:11:21.040 my first thought is, drone.

00:11:24.620 Oh, no, it's just a bird.

00:11:26.060 Wait a minute.

00:11:27.600 It might be a bird.

00:11:30.140 Or it might be a drone that just looks like a bird.

00:11:33.700 So, for a while now, I've not trusted birds.

00:11:38.060 And the jury's still out on fish.

00:11:42.040 I feel like there's a drone fish.

00:11:45.440 So, if you go swimming in the ocean,

00:11:48.380 they might be watching your legs.

00:11:50.660 If you're outdoors,

00:11:51.940 maybe those birds are really drones.

00:11:54.320 But now, if the only thing around is a bee,

00:11:59.580 you still have to wonder,

00:12:00.680 I wonder if that's one of those Chinese drone bees.

00:12:07.880 And by the way,

00:12:08.760 I'm not talking about a mechanical bee.

00:12:12.040 I'm talking about the actual organic bee

00:12:14.820 with a little chip in its head

00:12:16.840 that they can control remotely.

00:12:19.580 I don't know if that's real.

00:12:21.800 But it's news.

00:12:22.860 It's fun.

00:12:23.340 Did you know that the big, beautiful bill

00:12:27.780 approved $1,000 Trump accounts,

00:12:32.540 I guess that's what some people call them,

00:12:34.700 for children?

00:12:37.080 So, if you're a child,

00:12:39.260 and you're born after, I don't know,

00:12:41.360 some date that's coming up,

00:12:43.120 you will get $1,000 from the government.

00:12:45.540 It will be put in a S&P 500 EFT.

00:12:51.000 Yeah.

00:12:52.940 And it will just sit there

00:12:54.640 so that those children can have some money later in life.

00:12:59.100 What do you think of that?

00:13:01.800 Well, it's not a bad idea.

00:13:06.300 But it is socialist, right?

00:13:11.080 Isn't the big, beautiful bill

00:13:12.840 a little bit socialist?

00:13:14.740 Because the $1,000 is coming from

00:13:19.680 your pocket and my pocket

00:13:21.980 and going to people, somebody else.

00:13:26.500 So, that's just ETF, sorry.

00:13:29.280 Not EFT.

00:13:33.120 Isn't that just socialism?

00:13:35.640 I'm not saying it's a bad idea.

00:13:37.600 I'm not opposed to it.

00:13:39.460 But it's pure socialism, right?

00:13:42.540 Well, taking money from one group

00:13:44.600 and giving it to another

00:13:45.660 because you think that's where it belongs.

00:13:50.080 I don't know.

00:13:51.560 We'll see.

00:13:52.880 I'm not opposed to it.

00:13:54.040 I do wonder why they don't use Bitcoin now.

00:13:58.980 So, what do you think would be better for a child?

00:14:03.360 $1,000 in U.S. dollars when they're born in 2026 or so?

00:14:09.940 Or some Bitcoin of the same value.

00:14:14.660 Which one do you think would be worth more

00:14:16.860 when those kids graduate or they retire?

00:14:22.080 Well, I feel like it wouldn't make sense

00:14:26.200 for it to be only cash.

00:14:29.120 I feel like you'd want maybe some cash,

00:14:32.860 a little bit of Bitcoin.

00:14:36.300 So, Corey DeAngelis tells us

00:14:41.200 that there's a new online homeschooling asset.

00:14:45.340 So, something called American Virtual Academy.

00:14:49.680 Now, parents from all 50 states

00:14:52.420 can enroll their kids in a homeschooling resource

00:14:57.600 that they can, you know, do at home.

00:15:01.580 And I don't know what classes they have,

00:15:05.000 but they must have all the high school classes.

00:15:08.260 That's exciting.

00:15:09.220 And I guess, you know, there's some talk about it.

00:15:17.200 Dedicated to reestablishing core American values.

00:15:20.960 So, it's not just an online homeschooling asset,

00:15:25.280 but one that seems to be leaning conservative.

00:15:29.020 That's what I'm picking up from it.

00:15:31.460 So, I always thought that homeschooling

00:15:36.960 was one of the parents or a nanny or somebody

00:15:40.580 had to stay home and be the teacher.

00:15:43.940 But it's not like that at all, right?

00:15:46.720 I don't know enough about this domain.

00:15:49.800 But isn't all online homeschooling,

00:15:55.720 it's all online, right?

00:15:58.220 I mean, homeschooling is all online.

00:16:00.700 And then you've got a, you know,

00:16:02.440 a human who says that he do your homework

00:16:04.760 and make sure that you do what you're supposed to do

00:16:07.120 when you're supposed to do it.

00:16:08.920 Something like that.

00:16:11.060 Anyway, so homeschooling is taking a new step forward.

00:16:16.340 According to the Sartre article in Breitbart,

00:16:19.860 that according to the Labor Department,

00:16:23.220 native-born Americans account for 100%

00:16:26.060 of the job gains under Trump.

00:16:29.660 100%?

00:16:30.140 I'm not sure I believe anything that's 100%.

00:16:33.960 Do you?

00:16:35.600 I'll take 98%.

00:16:37.420 But that's still, still pretty amazing.

00:16:41.460 So, could it be that Trump is just right about everything?

00:16:47.640 Right about the deportations would be good

00:16:51.640 for Americans who want jobs.

00:16:53.960 Right about tariffs not increasing inflation.

00:16:57.300 Maybe.

00:17:00.680 It's entirely possible that Trump was just right about everything.

00:17:04.860 I don't know.

00:17:05.560 I'm not finding a lot to complain about.

00:17:09.880 So, another thing that Trump is doing

00:17:12.940 is he's sort of rebranding America

00:17:16.480 as the hottest country.

00:17:19.540 Have you seen him do that?

00:17:21.360 When he talks about, when he travels overseas,

00:17:24.140 that everybody wants to talk to him

00:17:26.760 and everybody wants to talk about America

00:17:28.640 and everybody has to negotiate with us

00:17:32.000 because of tariffs

00:17:32.760 and, you know, we're the ones who are ending the wars.

00:17:35.820 Nobody else can end the wars.

00:17:38.280 And he's right.

00:17:40.800 He said, I guess he said yesterday or the other day,

00:17:44.100 six months ago, they also said,

00:17:46.380 we thought your country was dead.

00:17:48.000 Talking about, you know, what foreigners thought about the U.S.

00:17:52.500 They actually thought it was dead.

00:17:54.340 And it felt dead.

00:17:55.880 But now he's saying it's the hottest country.

00:17:59.560 Now, what do you think of that?

00:18:01.300 I think it's true.

00:18:03.140 I think that Trump has made America

00:18:07.360 the thing that you can't ignore

00:18:09.780 and that you know you want to deal with.

00:18:12.700 and it looks like everything's going in the right direction

00:18:15.640 and you think to yourself,

00:18:17.980 ooh, you might want to hitch my wagon to that.

00:18:22.560 So I think the whole Trump is embarrassing us

00:18:27.960 on the national state or the international stage,

00:18:31.400 that all went away, right?

00:18:34.520 Have you heard recently any Democrats say,

00:18:39.240 you know, when Trump goes to a foreign country,

00:18:42.040 it's so embarrassing for the United States?

00:18:45.700 You don't hear that anymore, do you?

00:18:48.280 There are quite a few things

00:18:50.100 that Democrats used to think were true

00:18:52.300 that they at least act like they don't think are true now.

00:18:56.780 And that's one of them.

00:18:58.100 One of them is,

00:18:59.340 what do other countries think of our president?

00:19:02.620 At the moment,

00:19:04.200 they seem impressed.

00:19:08.480 And it's not an accident.

00:19:09.960 Meanwhile, Secretary Noem is,

00:19:14.000 as you know,

00:19:15.320 offering $1,000

00:19:16.680 and a free flight home

00:19:18.440 for anybody who wants to self-deport,

00:19:21.080 which is a really good idea.

00:19:23.400 Apparently, it's working well.

00:19:25.080 Tons of people are self-deporting.

00:19:27.080 But you probably do have to give them a little cash.

00:19:29.460 And it's probably way cheaper

00:19:32.340 than using, you know,

00:19:34.680 Border Patrol to round up a person here

00:19:37.280 and a person there.

00:19:38.960 So,

00:19:40.100 it feels like it's good economics.

00:19:43.480 And it would be, you know,

00:19:44.920 relatively good for the person self-deporting.

00:19:47.880 Because they would stay on the right side of the law

00:19:50.820 and they would get a little cash

00:19:52.760 and they would have the right to return

00:19:55.300 if they do it legally next time.

00:19:59.720 I don't know how many people are going to return

00:20:01.860 or how many we would allow in.

00:20:04.280 But it will at least keep the option open a little bit.

00:20:08.220 Meanwhile,

00:20:09.340 this is my favorite story today.

00:20:11.520 So,

00:20:12.560 Trump has announced

00:20:14.560 30% tariffs on Mexico

00:20:16.620 and the EU.

00:20:18.480 I feel it's on some domain of goods,

00:20:21.520 not all the goods.

00:20:23.600 And

00:20:24.080 he wrote to

00:20:26.120 the president of Mexico,

00:20:28.880 Scheinbaum,

00:20:30.420 and said,

00:20:32.020 despite our strong relationship,

00:20:33.980 blah, blah, blah,

00:20:34.660 you're still not doing enough about fentanyl.

00:20:37.800 So,

00:20:38.080 it just gives them a 30% penalty.

00:20:39.980 How much do I like that?

00:20:43.660 Way.

00:20:44.820 I like that a lot.

00:20:47.020 In fact,

00:20:48.140 of all the things that anybody's done about fentanyl,

00:20:51.940 this is the best one.

00:20:54.380 Now,

00:20:54.660 there might be other secret special forces things happening

00:20:58.500 that I don't know about.

00:21:00.120 But

00:21:00.440 it does seem to me

00:21:02.140 that a 30% tariff

00:21:04.100 on your biggest trading partner

00:21:06.300 is going to get their attention.

00:21:09.980 If the reason that Mexico sells fentanyl

00:21:13.040 is that somebody's making a lot of money,

00:21:16.320 well,

00:21:17.000 Trump's going to take it back.

00:21:18.860 How much money did you make?

00:21:20.400 We're going to take it all back.

00:21:22.280 And if you'd like to fight your own cartels,

00:21:25.780 go nuts.

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00:22:30.060 John Billy.

00:22:32.200 Scott's credibility is going down.

00:22:35.680 Well, asshole,

00:22:37.340 why don't you just say

00:22:38.340 what it is you disagree with?

00:22:40.640 The worst commenters

00:22:42.660 are the ones who just make a comment

00:22:44.360 about my character.

00:22:46.280 Well, you used to be right a few times,

00:22:48.660 but now there's something wrong

00:22:50.600 with your brain.

00:22:54.360 So drop that.

00:22:56.040 That's what I say to you.

00:22:58.000 Meanwhile,

00:22:59.480 the European Union

00:23:00.980 is also going to get

00:23:02.280 their own 30% tariff

00:23:03.900 because I think

00:23:07.740 Trump's complaint there

00:23:09.260 is the difference

00:23:11.380 in how much we're selling them

00:23:13.220 versus what they're selling us,

00:23:14.600 the trade deficit.

00:23:16.960 So,

00:23:17.640 here's the part

00:23:18.980 I want to check with you.

00:23:23.100 Jimmy Dore

00:23:23.940 had a big comment

00:23:24.800 about me yesterday.

00:23:26.320 I'm sure it was very positive.

00:23:28.300 Jimmy Bore.

00:23:31.880 Is it my imagination

00:23:34.320 or has Trump

00:23:36.260 made the entire world

00:23:37.760 get used to the idea

00:23:39.800 that he can use tariffs

00:23:41.080 like a club

00:23:41.960 and that they might change overnight

00:23:44.020 and that America's

00:23:47.360 no longer screwing around anymore

00:23:49.300 and you can do anything you want,

00:23:51.800 but you're going to have to pay

00:23:52.640 if you want access to our markets?

00:23:55.060 I believe Trump

00:23:56.540 took what was

00:23:58.520 the most universally disliked idea

00:24:01.160 in the entire globe

00:24:02.780 and has sold it so effectively

00:24:05.460 and made us get used to it

00:24:08.100 in only,

00:24:09.800 what,

00:24:10.220 six months?

00:24:11.140 We got used to it.

00:24:13.080 And now a story like this

00:24:14.700 where Trump is

00:24:16.220 increasing the tariff

00:24:17.980 by 30%

00:24:20.260 on Mexico

00:24:22.500 and the EU

00:24:23.340 is just sort of a small story

00:24:25.880 in the economic news.

00:24:27.480 How did he do that?

00:24:32.080 Are the critics just giving up

00:24:34.540 and saying,

00:24:35.560 all right,

00:24:36.260 inflation didn't go up.

00:24:39.600 All right,

00:24:40.760 it didn't cause a trade war per se.

00:24:45.860 I guess you can do this.

00:24:48.640 I feel like the critics

00:24:50.880 just gave up

00:24:51.920 in that Trump

00:24:53.940 and a few of his advisors

00:24:55.340 were the only people in the world

00:24:57.160 who said,

00:24:58.940 no,

00:24:59.140 trust us.

00:25:00.040 This is going to work out great.

00:25:02.320 And now it is.

00:25:05.300 You know,

00:25:05.920 I don't know if you remember

00:25:07.220 my take

00:25:07.920 on tariffs.

00:25:09.520 My take on tariffs

00:25:10.800 was very much like

00:25:11.900 Dana Perrinos

00:25:13.580 on The Five,

00:25:15.080 which is,

00:25:16.160 I don't know.

00:25:18.300 You know,

00:25:18.840 it's not obvious to me

00:25:20.320 that it was a bad idea

00:25:21.920 to do all the tariff

00:25:24.120 negotiating

00:25:25.220 that Trump did,

00:25:25.900 but it wasn't

00:25:27.220 also obvious to me.

00:25:30.860 It wasn't obvious to me

00:25:32.600 that it was a good idea

00:25:34.960 or a bad idea.

00:25:36.280 I just looked at it

00:25:37.560 and said,

00:25:37.960 well,

00:25:38.560 it's different.

00:25:40.760 It's new.

00:25:42.240 I suppose

00:25:43.160 if you tried it

00:25:44.500 and it didn't work,

00:25:45.360 you could back off.

00:25:46.760 So,

00:25:47.200 I always look for that.

00:25:48.420 but I'll be darned.

00:25:52.700 It looks like

00:25:53.800 at least at the moment,

00:25:56.780 you know,

00:25:57.320 things could change

00:25:58.400 instantly.

00:25:59.320 But at the moment,

00:26:01.000 I got to say

00:26:02.360 Trump was right

00:26:03.260 and almost everybody else

00:26:04.520 in the world

00:26:04.960 was wrong.

00:26:07.420 And,

00:26:08.060 you know,

00:26:09.060 my only defense

00:26:10.040 for myself

00:26:10.980 is I didn't commit.

00:26:13.480 I was open-minded.

00:26:15.340 Well,

00:26:15.740 maybe,

00:26:16.980 but here it is.

00:26:17.740 Well,

00:26:21.120 Bernie Sanders

00:26:21.940 is now

00:26:23.740 a closed

00:26:24.480 border

00:26:25.060 advocate.

00:26:26.440 I suppose

00:26:27.160 he always was,

00:26:28.400 but,

00:26:28.700 you know,

00:26:28.960 he's saying it

00:26:29.500 more directly now.

00:26:31.160 So,

00:26:31.720 he said recently,

00:26:32.740 you don't have a country

00:26:33.700 without borders.

00:26:35.180 Who says that sound like?

00:26:36.860 I mean,

00:26:37.140 it's exactly Trump,

00:26:38.240 right?

00:26:40.420 You don't have a country

00:26:41.720 without borders.

00:26:42.580 If you have borders,

00:26:43.460 you should enforce

00:26:44.240 that border.

00:26:45.740 Okay,

00:26:46.140 sounds like a Republican.

00:26:47.740 Democrats have not done

00:26:49.260 as good a job

00:26:50.400 as they should.

00:26:51.380 Period.

00:26:51.820 End of discussion.

00:26:53.220 All right.

00:26:53.940 Now,

00:26:54.460 I do appreciate

00:26:55.320 when Bernie

00:26:57.120 tells it like it is.

00:26:59.500 You know,

00:27:00.280 that's useful.

00:27:02.060 But,

00:27:02.880 is it my imagination,

00:27:04.860 again,

00:27:06.080 or

00:27:06.700 have Democrats

00:27:08.060 one by one

00:27:09.160 given up

00:27:10.400 on everything

00:27:11.120 the Democrats

00:27:11.940 believed?

00:27:12.520 have they just

00:27:14.500 surrendered?

00:27:16.160 For example,

00:27:18.020 now it's common

00:27:19.400 for Democrats

00:27:20.400 to say,

00:27:21.120 yeah,

00:27:22.260 we totally got

00:27:23.100 the border security

00:27:24.160 thing wrong.

00:27:25.660 Right?

00:27:26.540 That pretty much,

00:27:28.980 you know,

00:27:29.360 a lot of,

00:27:30.220 a lot of,

00:27:32.500 you know,

00:27:33.240 prominent people

00:27:34.080 who are Democrats

00:27:35.040 are saying,

00:27:35.540 yeah,

00:27:35.860 okay,

00:27:36.900 okay,

00:27:37.240 we got that wrong.

00:27:39.220 And Trump

00:27:39.880 got that right.

00:27:40.560 Now,

00:27:41.460 if that were

00:27:41.860 the only topic

00:27:43.220 where that was

00:27:44.320 happening,

00:27:45.100 I'd say,

00:27:46.200 oh,

00:27:46.680 Trump got that

00:27:47.460 one thing right.

00:27:50.180 But what about

00:27:51.340 trans athletes?

00:27:54.140 Have you noticed

00:27:54.820 that even

00:27:55.300 Gavin Newsom

00:27:56.140 came out

00:27:57.200 saying,

00:27:57.800 yeah,

00:27:58.160 it's unfair

00:27:58.900 to have,

00:27:59.600 you know,

00:28:00.240 biological men

00:28:01.240 competing in women?

00:28:02.140 Am I wrong

00:28:04.340 that,

00:28:05.620 not all Democrats,

00:28:06.840 of course,

00:28:07.520 but Democrats

00:28:08.280 have sort of

00:28:09.140 collapsed

00:28:09.800 on the

00:28:11.220 trans athlete

00:28:12.180 story,

00:28:13.320 right?

00:28:14.180 Which was a

00:28:14.960 big deal for

00:28:15.720 Democrats,

00:28:16.320 but it looks like

00:28:16.840 they've,

00:28:17.620 at least some of

00:28:18.240 them,

00:28:19.120 and prominent

00:28:19.760 ones,

00:28:20.620 are reversing

00:28:21.360 on that.

00:28:22.420 What about

00:28:22.960 the Biden's

00:28:24.760 brain hoax,

00:28:27.040 where for

00:28:27.680 years we were

00:28:28.720 told Biden's

00:28:29.720 brain is

00:28:30.180 perfectly good?

00:28:32.240 Well,

00:28:33.220 now the

00:28:33.700 Democrats,

00:28:34.820 pretty much

00:28:35.320 all of them,

00:28:36.060 are willing

00:28:36.540 to agree,

00:28:37.820 yeah,

00:28:38.260 that wasn't

00:28:39.960 good,

00:28:40.480 and Biden

00:28:42.220 really wasn't

00:28:43.300 completely up

00:28:44.100 to the job,

00:28:45.420 and yeah,

00:28:46.540 maybe we

00:28:47.060 didn't cover

00:28:47.620 it up.

00:28:49.120 So that's

00:28:50.080 another complete

00:28:50.900 reversal on

00:28:52.220 what the most

00:28:54.120 important thing

00:28:54.780 that happened

00:28:55.220 recently.

00:28:55.680 How about

00:28:57.640 pronouns and

00:28:59.200 wokeness in

00:29:00.020 general?

00:29:01.340 Kind of went

00:29:02.140 away,

00:29:02.480 didn't it?

00:29:03.520 Do you think

00:29:04.020 it went away

00:29:04.720 because they

00:29:05.940 still feel

00:29:06.560 just as

00:29:07.080 strongly that

00:29:08.000 we should

00:29:08.480 have it,

00:29:09.280 but they're

00:29:09.880 just going

00:29:10.480 dormant?

00:29:11.900 I don't

00:29:12.360 think so.

00:29:13.520 I think

00:29:13.940 Democrats also

00:29:14.980 realized that

00:29:15.760 the pronoun

00:29:16.320 thing was

00:29:16.980 ridiculous and

00:29:18.440 went too

00:29:18.880 far, and

00:29:20.140 so they're

00:29:20.700 sort of

00:29:21.320 reversing on

00:29:22.060 it.

00:29:23.460 What about

00:29:24.320 paying benefits

00:29:27.180 to undocumented

00:29:28.340 migrants?

00:29:30.540 well, there

00:29:33.940 are still

00:29:34.560 politicians and

00:29:36.580 Democrats who

00:29:38.100 believe that

00:29:38.780 we should be

00:29:41.180 rewarding people

00:29:42.220 who came in

00:29:42.680 the country

00:29:43.080 illegally with

00:29:44.640 cash and

00:29:45.320 whatnot.

00:29:45.900 I guess L.A.

00:29:47.180 Mayor Bass is

00:29:48.380 doing that right

00:29:48.960 now, trying to

00:29:49.760 get cash to

00:29:50.660 undocumented

00:29:51.220 people.

00:29:53.040 But I would

00:29:53.600 say that

00:29:54.420 Democrats have

00:29:56.560 started to

00:29:57.180 reverse on

00:29:57.800 that, like

00:29:58.900 Mayor Adams

00:29:59.680 in New

00:30:01.020 York, and

00:30:02.400 I feel like

00:30:03.280 they're backing

00:30:04.080 off on that

00:30:04.740 one.

00:30:05.800 What about

00:30:06.400 nuclear power?

00:30:08.780 Do you

00:30:09.020 remember when

00:30:09.560 nuclear power

00:30:10.420 was absolutely

00:30:11.580 something that

00:30:12.460 Democrats would

00:30:13.280 be against?

00:30:14.680 And now

00:30:15.100 they're closer

00:30:15.940 to all in,

00:30:17.380 let's build

00:30:17.800 it as fast

00:30:18.420 as possible.

00:30:20.180 Complete

00:30:20.620 reversal.

00:30:22.120 What about

00:30:22.940 the emphasis

00:30:24.380 on climate

00:30:25.360 change as

00:30:26.740 the number

00:30:27.100 one existential

00:30:28.000 threat in

00:30:28.940 the country?

00:30:30.620 Completely

00:30:31.180 reversed.

00:30:32.760 Now, there

00:30:33.820 are still

00:30:34.120 plenty of

00:30:34.580 Democrats who

00:30:35.200 think that

00:30:36.200 there's a

00:30:36.660 risk involved,

00:30:37.740 but they

00:30:39.240 don't think

00:30:39.860 that you

00:30:40.360 better do

00:30:40.860 something right

00:30:41.520 away and

00:30:42.040 there's only

00:30:42.400 one thing

00:30:42.840 you can do.

00:30:45.820 And,

00:30:46.400 you know,

00:30:47.420 there's only

00:30:47.760 one way to

00:30:48.360 play it.

00:30:49.360 So, if you

00:30:50.300 think about

00:30:50.860 it, open

00:30:52.540 borders,

00:30:53.300 Biden's brain,

00:30:54.340 trans

00:30:54.680 athletes,

00:30:55.300 wokeness,

00:30:56.800 nuclear power,

00:30:59.480 climate change,

00:31:00.700 these are

00:31:01.880 really the

00:31:03.920 most important

00:31:04.840 things.

00:31:06.560 And they've

00:31:07.520 just completely

00:31:08.240 given up and

00:31:09.620 gone, you

00:31:10.340 know, full

00:31:10.800 Trump without

00:31:12.140 actually saying

00:31:13.180 that they've

00:31:13.600 done that.

00:31:15.580 All right.

00:31:16.020 according to

00:31:20.160 John Solomon,

00:31:22.560 the Department

00:31:24.220 of Justice

00:31:24.760 and the

00:31:25.160 FBI are

00:31:26.020 secretly

00:31:26.720 building a

00:31:27.380 massive

00:31:27.860 conspiracy

00:31:28.640 case against

00:31:30.180 the deep

00:31:30.620 state,

00:31:31.760 specifically

00:31:32.300 about the

00:31:33.160 Russia collusion

00:31:34.240 hoax that

00:31:36.740 was, I think

00:31:38.520 it was a

00:31:38.980 Brennan and

00:31:39.600 Clapper

00:31:40.040 invention.

00:31:41.180 Comey was

00:31:42.100 part of

00:31:42.440 it.

00:31:43.100 So, there

00:31:44.160 might be a

00:31:45.360 massive

00:31:45.800 conspiracy

00:31:46.620 case.

00:31:47.700 But what I

00:31:48.320 don't know

00:31:48.880 is, is

00:31:50.500 that a

00:31:50.780 crime?

00:31:52.360 Is

00:31:53.000 conspiracy

00:31:53.980 a crime

00:31:55.740 per se?

00:31:57.140 So, what

00:31:57.980 is the

00:31:58.280 crime?

00:31:59.700 What is the

00:32:00.440 Department of

00:32:00.960 Justice and

00:32:01.820 the FBI

00:32:02.260 looking at?

00:32:03.460 Suppose they

00:32:04.440 determine,

00:32:06.160 and probably

00:32:06.920 it's not

00:32:07.280 hard to do

00:32:07.760 it, that

00:32:08.760 the FBI

00:32:09.820 and the

00:32:10.840 DOJ were

00:32:11.640 working with

00:32:12.360 the Clinton

00:32:13.000 campaign and

00:32:14.560 were knowingly

00:32:15.660 trying to

00:32:17.240 tilt the

00:32:17.800 election toward

00:32:18.580 the Democratic

00:32:19.740 candidate.

00:32:21.120 Is that

00:32:22.240 technically a

00:32:24.100 crime?

00:32:25.120 I know we

00:32:26.060 don't want it

00:32:26.600 to happen,

00:32:27.740 but what

00:32:29.000 crime is it?

00:32:30.480 So, I'm

00:32:30.900 still waiting

00:32:31.360 for that.

00:32:32.000 I'm assuming

00:32:32.600 there are

00:32:33.040 crimes.

00:32:34.060 I think the

00:32:34.820 answer is

00:32:35.220 yes, but I

00:32:36.680 don't know

00:32:36.940 what crime

00:32:37.340 there would

00:32:37.600 be.

00:32:38.360 If it's

00:32:38.760 only RICO,

00:32:39.480 RICO is a

00:32:40.840 tough one

00:32:41.300 to get a

00:32:43.840 conviction on.

00:32:44.820 I hope it's

00:32:45.320 more than

00:32:45.700 RICO, because

00:32:47.200 that would be

00:32:47.960 a tough

00:32:48.340 case.

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00:33:04.940 you're richer

00:33:05.420 than you think.

00:33:06.020 I was

00:33:09.240 wondering, do

00:33:10.060 Democrats

00:33:10.860 generally

00:33:11.880 acknowledge that

00:33:14.320 the Russia

00:33:14.780 collusion hoax

00:33:15.740 was a hoax?

00:33:17.220 Have you

00:33:17.820 noticed what

00:33:18.600 all Democrats

00:33:19.440 do when you

00:33:20.100 challenge them

00:33:20.840 on, well,

00:33:22.020 you know the

00:33:22.400 whole Russia

00:33:22.900 collusion thing

00:33:23.720 was a hoax,

00:33:24.380 right?

00:33:25.140 What do they

00:33:25.660 always do?

00:33:27.760 And it

00:33:28.460 doesn't matter

00:33:28.900 if they're

00:33:29.200 famous people

00:33:30.000 or just

00:33:30.680 voters.

00:33:31.420 If you

00:33:32.120 challenge a

00:33:32.820 Democrat

00:33:33.220 on the

00:33:34.520 fact that

00:33:35.000 the Russia

00:33:35.460 collusion

00:33:36.000 hoax was

00:33:36.660 a massive

00:33:37.380 organized

00:33:38.340 hoax to

00:33:40.860 overthrow the

00:33:41.920 results of

00:33:43.100 the election,

00:33:43.900 what do all

00:33:45.000 Democrats say

00:33:45.900 when you say

00:33:46.500 that?

00:33:48.240 Oh, no.

00:33:50.460 It was

00:33:51.340 proven that

00:33:52.140 Russia tried

00:33:52.900 to influence

00:33:53.620 the election,

00:33:54.900 which is not

00:33:56.520 the same

00:33:56.920 topic, is

00:33:57.620 it?

00:33:59.120 And then

00:33:59.880 they try

00:34:00.800 to get you

00:34:01.460 to not

00:34:01.920 know, or

00:34:03.100 they hope

00:34:03.640 you don't

00:34:04.020 know, that

00:34:05.020 the so-called

00:34:05.960 Russia influence

00:34:07.100 on the

00:34:07.420 election was

00:34:08.660 a handful

00:34:09.240 of memes

00:34:09.940 and a

00:34:11.420 budget of

00:34:11.920 $100,000,

00:34:13.380 which didn't

00:34:15.360 make any

00:34:15.960 difference to

00:34:16.600 anybody.

00:34:17.340 Nobody saw

00:34:17.980 the memes,

00:34:18.900 and they were

00:34:19.540 so poorly

00:34:20.100 done that

00:34:20.600 they wouldn't

00:34:20.960 have changed

00:34:21.460 any votes.

00:34:22.360 And by the

00:34:22.760 way, some

00:34:23.740 of them were

00:34:24.220 pro-Hillary

00:34:24.860 and some

00:34:25.340 of them were

00:34:25.760 pro-Trump.

00:34:27.360 So how

00:34:29.460 much influence

00:34:30.200 does that

00:34:30.620 have?

00:34:30.960 None.

00:34:31.460 But what

00:34:32.660 about the

00:34:34.120 Russia hacking

00:34:35.360 of Hillary's

00:34:37.240 email and

00:34:38.820 whoever got

00:34:39.540 into Podesta's

00:34:41.180 email?

00:34:41.760 What about

00:34:42.280 that?

00:34:43.140 Is that the

00:34:43.760 Russians trying

00:34:45.260 to influence

00:34:45.880 the election?

00:34:47.240 Well, I'll

00:34:48.440 just give you

00:34:49.000 my take.

00:34:50.000 I don't

00:34:50.560 believe anything

00:34:51.320 our government

00:34:51.940 says about

00:34:53.380 catching Russian

00:34:54.620 hackers.

00:34:55.920 They believe

00:34:57.060 that it was

00:34:57.540 Russian hackers.

00:34:58.640 They're pretty

00:34:59.480 sure it's

00:35:00.080 Russian hackers,

00:35:00.920 hackers, but

00:35:01.840 I don't

00:35:02.160 believe my

00:35:02.600 government,

00:35:03.600 not even a

00:35:04.240 little bit.

00:35:05.540 So were

00:35:06.540 there Russian

00:35:07.080 hackers?

00:35:08.080 They say

00:35:08.900 so.

00:35:10.820 Do you know

00:35:11.460 what it would

00:35:11.760 take to

00:35:12.220 convince me?

00:35:13.620 A lot more

00:35:14.580 than has

00:35:14.960 happened.

00:35:16.120 But anyway,

00:35:16.820 it's a

00:35:17.080 different topic.

00:35:18.220 The topic of

00:35:19.240 whether or not

00:35:19.920 the government

00:35:21.360 colluded to

00:35:23.620 create a giant

00:35:24.680 hoax that would

00:35:25.340 change the

00:35:25.880 nature of our

00:35:26.520 government,

00:35:26.920 government,

00:35:27.320 that part is

00:35:28.220 just a fact.

00:35:29.920 The part

00:35:30.500 about whether

00:35:31.140 Russia influenced

00:35:32.220 the election,

00:35:33.760 I doubt it,

00:35:35.680 but it's a

00:35:36.200 different topic.

00:35:39.500 Well, according

00:35:40.640 to the Wall

00:35:41.940 Street Journal,

00:35:43.720 the front lines

00:35:44.940 in the Ukraine

00:35:45.680 Russia war are

00:35:46.680 kind of static

00:35:47.620 because of the

00:35:49.180 economics of

00:35:50.500 drones.

00:35:51.080 so when the

00:35:52.800 war started

00:35:53.540 and I told

00:35:54.600 you this was

00:35:55.380 going to be

00:35:55.800 the first

00:35:56.460 drone war,

00:35:58.120 do you remember

00:35:58.520 I told you

00:35:59.100 that from the

00:35:59.660 start?

00:36:00.900 And I alone,

00:36:02.660 although I was

00:36:03.700 totally wrong

00:36:04.540 about whether

00:36:05.860 Putin would

00:36:06.740 actually invade,

00:36:08.260 I just thought

00:36:08.900 he'd be crazy

00:36:09.680 to invade

00:36:10.380 because I

00:36:11.840 didn't think

00:36:12.220 it would work.

00:36:13.440 And I thought

00:36:14.160 that the modern

00:36:15.000 weaponry,

00:36:15.860 especially drones,

00:36:17.460 would give

00:36:18.400 Ukraine a

00:36:19.140 better defensive

00:36:19.860 position than

00:36:21.060 the public

00:36:22.380 understood.

00:36:24.200 And that's

00:36:24.620 what happened.

00:36:25.580 Now, it wasn't

00:36:26.100 just drones.

00:36:26.920 It was probably

00:36:27.500 other smart

00:36:29.220 flying objects

00:36:30.340 like missiles.

00:36:31.880 But I

00:36:33.400 believe I

00:36:34.200 alone in

00:36:35.120 the entire

00:36:35.560 world, with

00:36:36.780 no military

00:36:37.460 expertise

00:36:38.340 whatsoever,

00:36:39.140 said, if

00:36:41.240 America gives

00:36:43.320 them good

00:36:43.820 weapons, the

00:36:45.420 Russians are

00:36:45.980 going to be

00:36:46.580 ready for a

00:36:49.120 big surprise.

00:36:50.600 And that's

00:36:50.900 what happened.

00:36:51.720 So instead

00:36:52.080 of conquering

00:36:52.820 Ukraine in

00:36:54.200 two weeks,

00:36:55.560 which the

00:36:56.120 military experts

00:36:56.960 said would

00:36:57.480 happen, they

00:36:58.980 got a bunch,

00:37:00.300 about 20% of

00:37:01.240 the country,

00:37:01.800 something like

00:37:02.120 that, but

00:37:02.740 then it got

00:37:03.140 bogged down.

00:37:04.560 And at this

00:37:05.440 point, guess

00:37:06.620 how many

00:37:07.060 drones, just

00:37:08.560 the first-person

00:37:09.720 suicide drones,

00:37:11.620 the ones where

00:37:12.400 the operator

00:37:13.620 sees through the

00:37:14.840 eyes of the

00:37:15.320 drones and just

00:37:16.060 flies it into a

00:37:17.080 tank or a

00:37:17.700 person, there

00:37:19.200 are 4.5

00:37:20.420 million of

00:37:21.040 them that

00:37:22.060 Ukraine has.

00:37:24.060 4.5 million

00:37:27.160 drones that

00:37:29.660 they have

00:37:29.980 focused mostly

00:37:30.920 on the

00:37:31.260 front line.

00:37:32.380 They are now

00:37:33.360 so cheap and

00:37:34.660 so plentiful and

00:37:35.760 so effective that

00:37:37.620 instead of saving

00:37:38.580 a drone for a

00:37:39.480 high-value target

00:37:40.940 like a barracks

00:37:43.080 or a tank,

00:37:45.240 they now use a

00:37:46.600 suicide drone for

00:37:47.780 even one

00:37:48.620 soldier.

00:37:49.960 If they see

00:37:50.620 one soldier

00:37:51.480 come out of a

00:37:52.720 bunker or

00:37:55.220 something, they

00:37:56.620 can chase that

00:37:57.420 one soldier with

00:37:58.520 their drone and

00:37:59.140 then kill them.

00:38:00.680 And they do.

00:38:02.440 So imagine

00:38:03.280 being on the

00:38:03.860 front line where

00:38:06.280 there's always

00:38:06.760 something in the

00:38:07.460 air watching for

00:38:09.160 movement and

00:38:10.340 just even one

00:38:11.560 person is going

00:38:12.600 to get their

00:38:12.980 own death

00:38:13.460 drone on top

00:38:15.040 of them.

00:38:15.700 That's where the

00:38:16.360 war is at.

00:38:16.940 It's kind of a

00:38:17.620 bit of a

00:38:18.540 stalemate.

00:38:19.260 And then Russia

00:38:19.800 introduced the

00:38:20.740 fiber optic drones.

00:38:23.040 They're the ones

00:38:23.680 with, and I still

00:38:24.780 can't believe this

00:38:25.460 works.

00:38:26.580 They have a

00:38:27.040 fiber optic very

00:38:28.480 thin cable that

00:38:30.500 goes to the

00:38:31.160 drone and the

00:38:31.880 drone can go for

00:38:32.740 miles connected

00:38:34.780 with a physical

00:38:35.700 cable.

00:38:36.820 I don't know how

00:38:37.760 that possibly works.

00:38:39.560 But with a

00:38:40.360 physical cable it

00:38:41.440 can be jammed.

00:38:42.600 And those guys

00:38:44.140 are dangerous.

00:38:45.620 So that's

00:38:46.820 happening.

00:38:47.900 But I wonder

00:38:49.200 how small the

00:38:51.600 pool of drone

00:38:52.580 operators will

00:38:53.460 get before AI

00:38:55.420 takes over.

00:38:57.080 You've got 4.5

00:38:58.600 million suicide

00:38:59.900 drones, but how

00:39:02.160 many drone

00:39:02.760 operators are there

00:39:04.020 in Ukraine?

00:39:06.260 Let's say it's a

00:39:07.460 big number.

00:39:08.740 Let's say it's,

00:39:09.540 I don't know,

00:39:11.940 20,000.

00:39:13.560 Would that be a

00:39:14.220 lot or is that

00:39:15.320 way too many?

00:39:16.920 So if you've got

00:39:18.360 20,000 trained

00:39:20.520 drone operators

00:39:21.680 and you've got this

00:39:23.220 really long front

00:39:24.900 line that's, you

00:39:26.180 know, a lot of

00:39:26.620 miles, and you're

00:39:29.100 running out of

00:39:29.880 humans, what would

00:39:32.240 be the obvious way

00:39:33.500 that would go?

00:39:35.160 You already know.

00:39:36.560 AI.

00:39:37.360 The obvious way

00:39:38.520 that's going to go

00:39:39.420 is they're going to

00:39:40.500 make drones that are

00:39:41.620 not controlled by

00:39:42.600 humans, and they're

00:39:44.280 just going to say,

00:39:45.140 here's the deal.

00:39:46.600 If it's in this part

00:39:47.760 of the world, you can

00:39:48.760 kill anything that

00:39:49.760 looks like a human.

00:39:51.740 Maybe the AI would be

00:39:53.280 smart enough to know

00:39:54.160 a Ukrainian soldier

00:39:55.320 from a Russian one?

00:39:56.960 Maybe.

00:39:58.040 Maybe they would only

00:39:59.060 know it from where

00:39:59.820 they are.

00:40:01.220 Maybe in the short

00:40:03.040 run, maybe a human

00:40:03.920 would say yes or no

00:40:05.000 to each of the kill

00:40:06.620 opportunities.

00:40:08.840 But doesn't it have

00:40:10.400 to become autonomous

00:40:11.780 drones?

00:40:12.820 It has to, right?

00:40:14.320 Because you're going to

00:40:15.140 run out of people,

00:40:16.280 and you'll have lots

00:40:18.240 of drones.

00:40:19.520 And it won't be that

00:40:21.200 hard to make them

00:40:22.980 all AI compliant so

00:40:25.180 that even if they get

00:40:26.160 jammed, the only

00:40:27.640 thing getting jammed

00:40:28.780 is the signal from

00:40:29.800 the GPS and from

00:40:31.100 the operator.

00:40:32.260 And it doesn't need

00:40:33.000 it.

00:40:33.740 It just goes and

00:40:34.580 makes its own kill

00:40:35.380 decisions.

00:40:36.700 So, that's my next

00:40:38.800 prediction.

00:40:39.820 Prediction one was

00:40:41.100 the Russians won't be

00:40:42.700 as successful as

00:40:43.740 everybody says,

00:40:45.100 because drones are

00:40:45.980 way better than you

00:40:46.760 think.

00:40:47.720 The next one is

00:40:49.100 we're going to get

00:40:50.200 rid of the human

00:40:51.020 element and just

00:40:53.780 basically darken the

00:40:55.100 sky with drones

00:40:56.040 that are AI.

00:40:58.480 And then things are

00:40:59.560 going to get

00:40:59.980 dangerous.

00:41:01.560 But, we'll see if

00:41:04.420 that happens before

00:41:05.360 Russia figures out

00:41:06.540 some way to thwart

00:41:08.180 that.

00:41:10.460 Speaking of drones,

00:41:12.500 over in Iran,

00:41:14.700 there's a crowdfunding

00:41:16.120 effort, according to

00:41:17.420 the New York Post,

00:41:19.320 Victor Nava is

00:41:20.640 writing about this,

00:41:21.460 that has raised

00:41:22.920 $40 million

00:41:23.660 allegedly for a

00:41:26.120 bounty on

00:41:26.760 President Trump's

00:41:27.620 head.

00:41:29.160 So, there's

00:41:29.880 now crowdsourcing,

00:41:32.120 $40 million.

00:41:34.180 Now, would that

00:41:35.180 allow the

00:41:35.980 government of

00:41:37.840 Iran to claim

00:41:39.180 they weren't

00:41:39.640 involved?

00:41:41.980 And are they

00:41:43.060 involved?

00:41:44.080 Or can they say,

00:41:45.780 no, the government

00:41:46.520 of Iran would

00:41:47.980 never try to

00:41:49.020 assassinate

00:41:49.720 Trump?

00:41:50.900 But, you know,

00:41:52.180 these individuals,

00:41:53.680 well, it's sort

00:41:55.160 of a free country,

00:41:56.260 not really.

00:41:57.340 And they wanted

00:41:58.620 to do it privately,

00:41:59.920 and well, you know,

00:42:00.900 that's up to them.

00:42:02.460 What happens,

00:42:04.460 and this is

00:42:05.800 definitely going to

00:42:06.660 happen, what happens

00:42:08.500 when you can do a

00:42:10.240 fundraising effort,

00:42:13.500 a crowdfunding effort,

00:42:14.920 to get

00:42:17.080 somebody to

00:42:17.840 use a drone

00:42:19.020 to assassinate

00:42:20.520 somebody,

00:42:21.560 and to do it

00:42:22.760 without any way

00:42:23.980 to determine

00:42:24.740 who crowdsourced

00:42:26.560 it,

00:42:27.260 or who

00:42:28.880 owned the

00:42:29.440 drone.

00:42:31.280 You know,

00:42:31.720 that's coming,

00:42:32.520 right?

00:42:33.620 Because if you

00:42:34.740 had a drone,

00:42:35.940 that AI,

00:42:37.540 and you

00:42:37.860 could program

00:42:38.620 it,

00:42:39.760 and you could

00:42:40.340 put it in,

00:42:40.760 let's say,

00:42:41.080 somebody's face,

00:42:42.620 and then you

00:42:43.800 knew where they

00:42:44.260 were going to be,

00:42:44.920 could you

00:42:47.120 be an assassin

00:42:48.660 who makes

00:42:50.040 your drone

00:42:50.780 available?

00:42:51.780 You know,

00:42:52.040 it wouldn't be

00:42:52.520 just one drone,

00:42:53.560 because it would

00:42:54.160 be self-destructing.

00:42:55.880 But if you

00:42:56.860 had a little

00:42:57.340 fleet of

00:42:58.020 self-destructing

00:42:59.160 AI drones,

00:43:01.360 and you were

00:43:01.960 connected to

00:43:02.840 a foreign,

00:43:04.740 let's say,

00:43:06.260 dark web

00:43:07.140 crowdfunding

00:43:08.320 source,

00:43:09.620 how far

00:43:10.560 are we from

00:43:11.140 the place

00:43:12.060 where you

00:43:12.900 could simply

00:43:13.700 raise money

00:43:14.420 to have

00:43:14.760 somebody

00:43:15.100 assassinated

00:43:15.920 with a drone,

00:43:18.460 and neither

00:43:19.260 the drone

00:43:19.840 operator nor

00:43:20.740 you could

00:43:21.220 be detected

00:43:21.940 in any way.

00:43:24.320 Are we

00:43:25.240 close to

00:43:25.980 that?

00:43:26.880 We are.

00:43:28.920 We're very

00:43:29.760 close to that.

00:43:31.080 Will that

00:43:31.580 happen?

00:43:32.360 I don't know

00:43:32.880 how you

00:43:33.120 could stop

00:43:33.580 it.

00:43:34.780 Yeah,

00:43:35.540 it'll happen.

00:43:36.100 All right.

00:43:39.200 I know

00:43:39.900 the one

00:43:40.380 thing you

00:43:40.820 want to

00:43:41.180 talk about

00:43:41.660 more than

00:43:42.140 anything,

00:43:43.440 more than

00:43:44.360 anything,

00:43:45.900 is Epstein.

00:43:47.500 Are you

00:43:48.040 ready?

00:43:48.660 When I

00:43:49.000 found out

00:43:49.420 my friend

00:43:49.880 got a

00:43:50.240 great deal

00:43:50.840 on a

00:43:51.200 wool coat

00:43:51.600 from Winners,

00:43:52.400 I started

00:43:53.200 wondering,

00:43:54.100 is every

00:43:54.940 fabulous item

00:43:55.720 I see from

00:43:56.400 Winners?

00:43:57.200 Like that

00:43:57.740 woman over

00:43:58.220 there with

00:43:58.680 the designer

00:43:59.120 jeans.

00:43:59.940 Are those

00:44:00.540 from Winners?

00:44:01.480 Ooh,

00:44:02.080 are those

00:44:02.440 beautiful gold

00:44:03.060 earrings?

00:44:03.560 Did she

00:44:04.200 pay full

00:44:04.520 price?

00:44:05.260 Or that

00:44:05.540 leather

00:44:05.740 tote?

00:44:06.280 Or that

00:44:06.540 cashmere

00:44:06.900 sweater?

00:44:07.460 Or those

00:44:07.820 knee-high

00:44:08.140 boots?

00:44:08.960 That dress?

00:44:09.740 That jacket?

00:44:10.420 Those shoes?

00:44:11.460 Is anyone

00:44:12.240 paying full

00:44:12.860 price for

00:44:13.420 anything?

00:44:14.400 Stop

00:44:14.880 wondering.

00:44:15.660 Start

00:44:15.900 winning.

00:44:16.600 Winners.

00:44:17.180 Find

00:44:17.420 fabulous

00:44:17.860 for less.

00:44:19.680 So I

00:44:20.820 said yesterday

00:44:21.560 that we

00:44:22.880 should take

00:44:23.960 a tip from

00:44:24.820 President Trump

00:44:25.720 who is

00:44:27.000 telling us

00:44:27.680 wink,

00:44:28.240 wink,

00:44:28.960 it's time

00:44:29.440 to move

00:44:29.880 on from

00:44:30.440 Epstein.

00:44:31.560 Wink,

00:44:31.980 wink,

00:44:32.280 wink.

00:44:32.500 There's

00:44:33.280 nothing

00:44:33.560 there.

00:44:34.640 Trust

00:44:34.940 us.

00:44:35.800 Wink,

00:44:36.140 wink,

00:44:36.420 wink.

00:44:37.300 Now if

00:44:37.980 you don't

00:44:38.340 see the

00:44:38.780 wink,

00:44:39.840 then everything

00:44:40.500 looks different.

00:44:41.760 It looks

00:44:42.060 like incompetence

00:44:43.540 or covering

00:44:44.680 something up

00:44:45.580 or whatever.

00:44:47.400 But if

00:44:47.960 you can

00:44:48.420 tell that

00:44:49.940 Trump knows

00:44:50.900 that there's

00:44:51.340 more to

00:44:51.720 this story,

00:44:52.800 he just

00:44:53.440 doesn't want

00:44:54.120 you to be

00:44:54.640 dealing with

00:44:55.200 it and

00:44:55.880 wants us

00:44:56.340 to move

00:44:56.680 on as

00:44:57.080 a country.

00:44:59.040 What kind

00:44:59.800 of frame

00:45:00.300 do you put

00:45:00.760 on that

00:45:01.120 when you

00:45:01.460 analyze that

00:45:02.100 situation?

00:45:03.400 Well,

00:45:04.660 I'm going

00:45:05.880 to bring

00:45:06.920 this all

00:45:07.360 together

00:45:07.800 for the

00:45:09.360 first time.

00:45:10.440 I know

00:45:10.980 there's a

00:45:11.340 lot of

00:45:11.640 disagreement

00:45:12.060 on this

00:45:12.720 topic,

00:45:13.700 but watch

00:45:14.200 how I

00:45:14.580 persuade

00:45:15.360 98%

00:45:16.740 of you

00:45:17.120 who disagree

00:45:17.700 with me

00:45:18.280 over to

00:45:19.200 my side.

00:45:20.460 Are you

00:45:20.720 ready?

00:45:21.880 I know

00:45:22.480 you think

00:45:22.840 I can't

00:45:23.280 do it.

00:45:24.480 So my

00:45:25.000 side is

00:45:26.860 that we

00:45:27.140 should let

00:45:27.600 it go.

00:45:28.740 And we

00:45:29.080 should let

00:45:29.500 it go

00:45:29.900 because

00:45:30.380 Trump

00:45:30.760 says

00:45:31.100 to let

00:45:31.460 it go.

00:45:33.220 Now,

00:45:33.880 many of

00:45:34.880 you would

00:45:35.220 say,

00:45:35.880 Scott,

00:45:38.400 no,

00:45:39.660 this is

00:45:40.740 a gigantic

00:45:41.480 crime,

00:45:42.780 thousands

00:45:43.160 of victims,

00:45:44.680 underage

00:45:45.240 children,

00:45:46.420 justice

00:45:46.880 has not

00:45:47.480 been served,

00:45:48.740 and there

00:45:49.800 is no

00:45:50.260 reason that

00:45:51.160 we can't

00:45:51.580 have all

00:45:51.960 the information

00:45:52.580 about this,

00:45:53.800 and if

00:45:54.240 Trump won't

00:45:54.840 give it to

00:45:55.280 us,

00:45:56.040 we will

00:45:56.880 stop

00:45:57.840 supporting

00:45:58.280 him.

00:45:59.880 Right?

00:46:01.000 Does that

00:46:01.760 capture

00:46:02.300 your

00:46:02.880 opinion?

00:46:05.120 That it's

00:46:06.400 so bad,

00:46:07.800 and it's

00:46:08.240 such a

00:46:08.720 stain,

00:46:09.260 and we

00:46:09.580 can't move

00:46:10.080 past it

00:46:10.700 when our

00:46:11.560 own government

00:46:12.100 is lying

00:46:12.620 to us,

00:46:13.420 so we

00:46:14.040 just have

00:46:14.720 to know

00:46:15.160 everything

00:46:15.600 about it,

00:46:16.640 and then

00:46:17.200 we'll make

00:46:17.600 up our

00:46:17.880 own minds.

00:46:19.000 But the

00:46:19.440 only way

00:46:19.880 you'll get

00:46:20.240 justice,

00:46:21.180 the only

00:46:21.700 way,

00:46:22.560 is if

00:46:22.920 there's

00:46:23.200 full

00:46:23.480 disclosure,

00:46:24.720 and we

00:46:25.140 all want

00:46:25.700 justice,

00:46:26.220 especially

00:46:26.800 because the

00:46:28.120 victims were

00:46:28.820 children at

00:46:29.620 the time.

00:46:30.620 Right?

00:46:31.820 Did I get

00:46:33.040 your point

00:46:33.540 of view?

00:46:35.420 All right,

00:46:36.380 here's why,

00:46:38.840 and here's

00:46:40.140 how.

00:46:40.880 I'm going

00:46:41.260 to convert

00:46:41.780 you to my

00:46:42.360 point of

00:46:42.740 view.

00:46:43.880 If the

00:46:45.280 frame you're

00:46:46.060 putting on

00:46:46.540 this Epstein

00:46:47.180 situation is

00:46:48.420 the criminal

00:46:49.680 frame,

00:46:50.900 which makes

00:46:52.040 perfect sense,

00:46:53.220 because it's a

00:46:53.760 whole bunch of

00:46:54.220 crimes.

00:46:55.220 You would

00:46:55.500 have, you

00:46:55.920 know, thousands

00:46:56.500 of sex

00:46:57.120 crimes.

00:46:58.260 You might

00:46:58.640 have some

00:46:59.080 blackmailing,

00:46:59.980 maybe yes,

00:47:00.720 maybe no.

00:47:01.540 You might

00:47:02.160 have some

00:47:02.740 spy stuff,

00:47:04.660 maybe yes,

00:47:05.240 maybe no.

00:47:06.700 You might

00:47:07.460 have some

00:47:08.340 money laundering,

00:47:09.400 or how in

00:47:10.320 the world did

00:47:10.980 Epstein even

00:47:11.740 make his

00:47:12.220 money in the

00:47:12.760 first place?

00:47:14.260 So,

00:47:14.860 wouldn't you

00:47:15.380 agree that

00:47:17.220 the best way

00:47:17.820 to look at

00:47:18.240 this Epstein

00:47:18.840 thing is a

00:47:20.320 whole bunch

00:47:20.740 of crimes,

00:47:21.960 and would

00:47:22.900 you further

00:47:23.440 agree that

00:47:25.020 when we

00:47:25.480 have other

00:47:25.960 crimes,

00:47:26.740 whether it's

00:47:27.180 Diddy or

00:47:28.160 OJ or

00:47:28.920 anybody else,

00:47:30.100 that the

00:47:30.640 information is

00:47:31.440 all made

00:47:31.760 public.

00:47:33.060 Not only

00:47:33.920 do we learn

00:47:35.660 about who

00:47:36.260 is guilty,

00:47:37.640 but in the

00:47:38.580 criminal justice

00:47:39.360 system, we

00:47:40.660 also learn who's

00:47:41.820 not guilty

00:47:42.560 before we know

00:47:44.120 they're not

00:47:44.540 guilty.

00:47:45.960 In other

00:47:46.400 words, the

00:47:47.560 criminal justice

00:47:48.340 system brings

00:47:49.260 in all the

00:47:50.220 names of

00:47:50.740 people who

00:47:51.280 really maybe

00:47:52.680 didn't do

00:47:53.160 anything, but

00:47:54.740 they were

00:47:55.040 somehow associated

00:47:56.000 with the

00:47:56.400 story.

00:47:58.140 So, would

00:48:00.040 you agree

00:48:00.640 that if the

00:48:01.840 normal court

00:48:02.840 system and

00:48:03.740 the way we

00:48:04.200 deal with

00:48:04.640 crime is

00:48:06.080 that we

00:48:06.380 want full

00:48:06.900 disclosure and

00:48:07.860 we want the

00:48:08.360 public to,

00:48:09.840 you know,

00:48:10.060 except for

00:48:10.560 very special

00:48:11.500 cases, we

00:48:12.840 want the

00:48:13.200 public to

00:48:13.660 know everybody

00:48:14.760 who's accused,

00:48:16.460 we want to

00:48:17.020 know who the

00:48:17.480 accusers are,

00:48:18.520 who the

00:48:18.820 victims are,

00:48:20.140 we want to

00:48:20.680 know the

00:48:20.960 names of the

00:48:21.560 lawyers, the

00:48:22.620 judge, we

00:48:23.780 want to know

00:48:24.200 it all, and

00:48:25.340 that that's a

00:48:25.900 reasonable standard

00:48:26.920 for justice.

00:48:28.720 Would you

00:48:29.160 agree that if

00:48:30.720 Epstein is a

00:48:31.920 criminal situation

00:48:33.600 and the way we

00:48:35.480 handle criminal

00:48:36.180 situations is we

00:48:37.820 want maximum

00:48:38.620 disclosure, it's

00:48:40.320 worked before,

00:48:41.440 there's no reason

00:48:42.120 this would be

00:48:42.600 different.

00:48:43.280 Would you

00:48:43.640 agree?

00:48:45.480 That's a

00:48:46.220 perfectly

00:48:46.940 reasonable take,

00:48:48.240 and that's what

00:48:48.820 most of you

00:48:49.620 have settled

00:48:50.600 on.

00:48:51.560 And now I'm

00:48:52.480 going to flip

00:48:53.000 you to my

00:48:54.820 point of

00:48:55.220 view.

00:48:56.780 That's the

00:48:57.420 wrong frame.

00:48:58.980 It is a

00:48:59.920 criminal situation,

00:49:01.400 and everything

00:49:02.200 you think about

00:49:03.040 it fits that

00:49:04.600 criminal situation

00:49:05.660 frame.

00:49:06.800 But here's the

00:49:07.960 frame I put on

00:49:08.780 it.

00:49:10.760 It's a

00:49:11.500 commander-in-chief

00:49:12.420 decision.

00:49:14.280 Commander-in-chief.

00:49:16.300 If it were a

00:49:17.300 national security

00:49:18.500 problem,

00:49:19.520 and we

00:49:20.920 certainly have

00:49:21.720 reason to

00:49:22.260 believe that

00:49:22.720 other countries

00:49:23.660 might be

00:49:24.340 involved,

00:49:25.940 you know,

00:49:26.160 Israel comes

00:49:27.020 up a lot.

00:49:28.380 Sometimes I

00:49:28.980 hear Saudi

00:49:29.520 Arabia because

00:49:30.620 Epstein worked

00:49:31.560 with Khashoggi

00:49:32.440 at one point.

00:49:33.880 Sometimes I

00:49:34.700 hear UK.

00:49:36.540 Sometimes I

00:49:37.320 hear, well,

00:49:38.920 the US and

00:49:39.640 the CIA.

00:49:40.120 So what if

00:49:42.460 Trump's take

00:49:45.520 as commander-in-chief

00:49:46.880 is that he

00:49:48.840 doesn't want to

00:49:49.780 derail something

00:49:50.720 important by

00:49:52.480 continuing to

00:49:53.480 hammer on

00:49:53.920 this?

00:49:54.680 And suppose he

00:49:55.400 knows, he

00:49:56.940 knows that

00:49:58.700 justice will

00:49:59.460 not be served.

00:50:01.220 But as

00:50:02.080 commander-in-chief,

00:50:03.520 that's his

00:50:04.980 job.

00:50:06.960 Commander-in-chief,

00:50:08.460 let me give you

00:50:09.260 an example to

00:50:10.200 pull it

00:50:10.540 together.

00:50:11.380 When Trump

00:50:12.280 said he's

00:50:13.220 going to

00:50:13.460 wait two

00:50:13.980 weeks to

00:50:14.680 make a

00:50:15.040 decision on

00:50:15.780 bombing Iran,

00:50:17.360 but then he

00:50:18.240 bombed them in

00:50:19.080 a few days

00:50:19.740 instead, and

00:50:20.720 it was a

00:50:21.060 big surprise,

00:50:22.420 I don't know

00:50:23.340 about you,

00:50:24.400 but I wish I

00:50:25.320 had known that

00:50:25.980 in advance.

00:50:28.060 But the

00:50:28.740 reason he

00:50:29.200 didn't tell

00:50:29.640 me, and he

00:50:30.340 didn't tell

00:50:30.740 you, is

00:50:31.840 that it was

00:50:32.140 a national

00:50:32.720 interest to

00:50:34.300 not tell

00:50:34.820 us.

00:50:35.960 So was

00:50:36.520 that full

00:50:37.000 disclosure?

00:50:38.360 No, it

00:50:38.760 wasn't.

00:50:39.260 In the

00:50:40.220 context of

00:50:41.040 national

00:50:41.540 interest, and

00:50:43.080 in the

00:50:43.420 context of

00:50:44.220 commander-in-chief,

00:50:45.900 not telling

00:50:47.560 the country

00:50:48.140 all the

00:50:48.880 secrets is

00:50:50.320 not just

00:50:50.820 allowed, we

00:50:52.760 demand it.

00:50:54.080 We demand

00:50:55.120 that he not

00:50:55.760 tell us all

00:50:56.380 the proprietary

00:50:58.460 secrets.

00:50:59.440 Because if he

00:51:00.260 told us all

00:51:00.840 the secrets,

00:51:02.000 he'd be

00:51:02.420 telling the

00:51:02.900 bad guys at

00:51:03.560 the same

00:51:03.860 time.

00:51:04.800 Oh, I

00:51:05.160 just want to

00:51:05.640 tell you

00:51:05.960 Americans,

00:51:07.000 because full

00:51:07.540 disclosure,

00:51:08.120 we're going

00:51:09.140 to be

00:51:09.360 bombing on

00:51:09.900 Tuesday.

00:51:11.140 And then

00:51:11.440 Iran would

00:51:11.980 say, you're

00:51:12.640 bombing us

00:51:13.060 on Tuesday.

00:51:14.720 So in

00:51:15.580 general, the

00:51:16.700 commander-in-chief

00:51:17.640 is selected

00:51:19.180 to make

00:51:19.940 decisions on

00:51:20.840 our behalf

00:51:21.560 that are all

00:51:22.720 impossible moral

00:51:24.480 decisions, such

00:51:26.500 as, do we

00:51:27.820 drop a bomb on

00:51:28.840 this apartment

00:51:29.380 building and

00:51:30.140 knowing it will

00:51:30.780 kill a whole

00:51:31.980 bunch of

00:51:32.420 civilians, but

00:51:34.200 it might get

00:51:34.800 bin Laden or

00:51:35.640 somebody else.

00:51:37.580 All of the

00:51:38.540 commander-in-chief

00:51:39.500 decisions involve

00:51:41.640 some element of

00:51:43.060 innocent people

00:51:43.880 getting killed or

00:51:44.920 maybe killed in

00:51:46.480 order to achieve

00:51:47.340 something bigger.

00:51:49.360 So, the

00:51:50.820 proper frame on

00:51:51.920 this, I

00:51:52.940 believe, is

00:51:54.380 one of national

00:51:55.500 interest.

00:51:57.480 And I believe

00:51:57.940 the commander-in-chief

00:51:59.140 is telling us,

00:52:00.900 and by the way,

00:52:01.540 this hasn't

00:52:02.000 happened before

00:52:02.720 that I can think

00:52:03.500 America, are

00:52:04.560 there other

00:52:05.080 situations where

00:52:06.340 Trump has said,

00:52:07.820 everybody, wink,

00:52:09.200 wink, let's

00:52:10.260 move on, let's

00:52:11.920 get off this

00:52:12.520 topic, let's

00:52:13.820 leave it alone?

00:52:15.300 Is there any

00:52:16.220 other topic he's

00:52:17.120 ever done that

00:52:17.900 with?

00:52:18.880 And why

00:52:19.580 wouldn't he?

00:52:20.620 Why wouldn't he

00:52:21.400 do it with other

00:52:22.020 topics?

00:52:23.100 Well, they might

00:52:24.320 not be commander-in-chief

00:52:25.720 topics.

00:52:27.580 And what he

00:52:29.420 can't tell you

00:52:30.300 is all the

00:52:31.460 things he can't

00:52:32.200 tell you.

00:52:34.140 So, people

00:52:35.420 said to me,

00:52:36.080 but Scott, we

00:52:36.740 have a right to

00:52:37.480 know, and we

00:52:38.820 should be part of

00:52:39.620 the decision.

00:52:40.400 To which I

00:52:40.880 say, what?

00:52:42.860 You don't live

00:52:43.500 in a democracy.

00:52:45.120 If you lived in

00:52:46.140 a democracy, I

00:52:47.200 would say, yeah,

00:52:48.260 we all need to

00:52:49.020 get to vote on

00:52:49.800 everything, even

00:52:50.900 national defense.

00:52:53.740 But our

00:52:54.440 founders did not

00:52:55.460 build us a

00:52:56.080 democracy, because

00:52:57.560 they knew it

00:52:58.040 wouldn't work.

00:52:59.340 They built us a

00:53:00.780 democratic

00:53:01.720 republic, which

00:53:03.660 means that when

00:53:04.920 you vote for

00:53:05.580 Trump, you know

00:53:07.000 you're voting for

00:53:07.700 a commander-in-chief

00:53:08.780 whose most

00:53:11.420 important job is

00:53:13.400 to make decisions

00:53:14.360 with more

00:53:15.020 knowledge about

00:53:16.060 the situation

00:53:16.880 than you and

00:53:18.080 I have.

00:53:19.540 That's why we

00:53:20.520 hired him.

00:53:21.660 We didn't hire

00:53:22.660 him to ask for

00:53:23.680 our permission.

00:53:25.780 We didn't hire

00:53:27.320 him to tell us

00:53:28.640 everything he

00:53:29.480 knows about

00:53:30.080 national secrets.

00:53:31.960 We didn't do

00:53:32.540 that.

00:53:33.380 We hired him to

00:53:34.360 keep secret the

00:53:36.160 things that would

00:53:36.900 protect the

00:53:37.580 country, and

00:53:39.100 ideally to tell us

00:53:40.440 things that

00:53:41.220 wouldn't hurt the

00:53:41.840 country, and

00:53:43.640 then, you know,

00:53:44.420 they have vital

00:53:44.940 interests.

00:53:46.240 So, when you

00:53:47.700 say Epstein is a

00:53:49.240 criminal situation,

00:53:51.280 and therefore we

00:53:52.100 should have full

00:53:52.760 disclosure, that

00:53:54.300 makes complete

00:53:55.180 sense if that's

00:53:56.580 all it is.

00:53:58.540 But in my

00:53:59.440 opinion, given

00:54:01.920 the near

00:54:02.620 guarantee that

00:54:03.460 it affects other

00:54:04.360 countries as well,

00:54:06.140 almost certainly

00:54:07.080 this has some

00:54:08.580 big national

00:54:09.320 interest connection

00:54:10.600 that you and I

00:54:11.800 don't know about.

00:54:13.520 Don't know for

00:54:14.460 sure, but that

00:54:16.020 would be true of

00:54:16.980 every commander-in-chief

00:54:18.520 decision.

00:54:19.740 If the commander-in-chief

00:54:21.200 decides to not tell us

00:54:22.660 something in the

00:54:23.680 future, maybe it's

00:54:26.320 because he's

00:54:26.920 protecting his own

00:54:27.820 ass, but we

00:54:29.520 don't get to ask

00:54:30.320 that.

00:54:31.160 We have a system

00:54:32.080 that says we're

00:54:33.360 going to trust this

00:54:34.240 guy or this woman

00:54:35.860 to make that

00:54:37.260 decision for us,

00:54:38.700 knowing that that

00:54:39.720 person will know

00:54:40.460 more than we do

00:54:41.200 about this forever.

00:54:42.620 We'll never know

00:54:43.420 everything they know

00:54:44.280 about it.

00:54:45.680 So, now I've

00:54:48.180 almost got you

00:54:49.220 there.

00:54:50.540 Some of you are

00:54:51.340 saying, you know,

00:54:52.200 damn the torpedoes,

00:54:53.680 I know there

00:54:54.720 would be some

00:54:55.360 blowback, I know

00:54:56.780 it would be

00:54:57.240 costly, but I

00:54:58.840 cannot live

00:54:59.700 knowing that all

00:55:01.220 these young people

00:55:02.320 have been

00:55:02.700 victimized.

00:55:04.200 Here's the next

00:55:05.020 thing you need to

00:55:05.700 know.

00:55:06.780 Where are those

00:55:07.600 victims?

00:55:09.160 Are you telling

00:55:09.720 me that none of

00:55:10.460 those thousands

00:55:11.220 of young women

00:55:12.220 are naming a

00:55:14.600 name?

00:55:16.060 None of them?

00:55:17.300 Now, I

00:55:17.680 understand a

00:55:18.340 number of them

00:55:18.820 have some kind

00:55:19.500 of civil lawsuits,

00:55:21.100 you know, maybe

00:55:23.380 that's the reason

00:55:24.160 that names are

00:55:25.260 not being named,

00:55:26.260 you know, they

00:55:26.580 want to keep

00:55:27.020 that separate, but

00:55:28.340 I don't think

00:55:28.840 so.

00:55:29.760 If there were

00:55:30.320 really thousands

00:55:31.640 of people

00:55:32.320 victimized,

00:55:34.040 thousands of

00:55:34.620 young women

00:55:35.180 specifically, you

00:55:36.920 don't think you'd

00:55:38.300 have at least a

00:55:40.120 handful of them

00:55:40.880 saying, all right,

00:55:41.580 here's the deal.

00:55:42.660 When I was 15, I

00:55:44.980 didn't recognize

00:55:45.720 this public figure,

00:55:47.020 but bad things

00:55:48.240 happened.

00:55:48.600 However, now

00:55:50.340 that I'm 25, I

00:55:52.420 totally recognize

00:55:53.480 this billionaire, and

00:55:55.420 this is the one

00:55:56.220 that I had that

00:55:57.000 experience with, that

00:55:58.700 criminal experience.

00:56:00.660 Where are they?

00:56:02.740 Doesn't that make

00:56:03.440 you wonder?

00:56:05.380 Yeah.

00:56:06.020 What exactly is

00:56:07.560 going on that a

00:56:09.700 thousand victims are

00:56:14.540 not talking?

00:56:15.160 And the one

00:56:16.100 that did, Virginia

00:56:17.700 Joffrey, was

00:56:20.700 debunked and was

00:56:22.220 considered unreliable,

00:56:23.880 and her charges

00:56:24.940 against Dershowitz

00:56:26.900 specifically were

00:56:27.800 dropped for not

00:56:29.100 being credible.

00:56:30.160 I think she

00:56:30.820 withdrew them,

00:56:31.800 actually.

00:56:32.600 And then she

00:56:33.440 died.

00:56:35.360 So, where are

00:56:38.220 all the people

00:56:38.940 who are the

00:56:40.140 victims?

00:56:41.120 So that's the

00:56:41.860 first mystery here.

00:56:42.980 Now, I'm

00:56:45.960 going to make

00:56:46.280 it a little

00:56:46.580 bit more

00:56:47.040 concrete for

00:56:47.920 you.

00:56:48.160 Ready?

00:56:49.060 All right, here's

00:56:49.680 a morality

00:56:51.120 slash system

00:56:53.060 question.

00:56:53.760 It's like a

00:56:54.120 little quiz for

00:56:55.100 all of you.

00:56:56.720 If the

00:56:57.640 commander-in-chief

00:56:58.560 decided to

00:57:00.200 keep secret a

00:57:01.520 massive criminal

00:57:02.780 enterprise, and

00:57:05.180 you were pretty

00:57:05.820 sure that that's

00:57:06.580 what they were

00:57:07.060 doing, would

00:57:08.900 it be okay

00:57:09.600 with you if

00:57:10.780 somehow you

00:57:11.420 magically knew

00:57:12.300 it was the

00:57:13.200 only way to

00:57:13.800 prevent a

00:57:14.560 nuclear World

00:57:15.520 War III?

00:57:16.940 How many of

00:57:17.800 you would say,

00:57:18.580 all right,

00:57:19.200 all right,

00:57:19.640 Scott, in

00:57:20.980 general, I

00:57:21.720 would want

00:57:22.100 full disclosure,

00:57:23.380 but if you're

00:57:24.220 telling me

00:57:24.700 hypothetically,

00:57:25.960 and it's just

00:57:26.460 hypothetical,

00:57:27.960 that it's the

00:57:29.040 only way to

00:57:29.700 prevent a

00:57:30.400 nuclear holocaust,

00:57:32.620 okay, under

00:57:33.380 that rare

00:57:34.060 condition, I'll

00:57:36.080 agree with you,

00:57:37.060 the commander-in-chief

00:57:38.060 should probably

00:57:38.780 just shut up,

00:57:40.440 right?

00:57:41.300 So, everybody

00:57:43.360 agreed with me

00:57:44.120 on that, that

00:57:45.980 if Trump knew

00:57:47.000 he was avoiding

00:57:48.080 a nuclear

00:57:49.020 holocaust, that

00:57:50.920 you'd be okay

00:57:51.560 with him lying

00:57:52.200 to you forever,

00:57:53.440 right?

00:57:55.700 Now, let's

00:57:56.400 take it down a

00:57:57.080 notch.

00:57:58.280 Suppose that

00:58:00.000 you knew, and

00:58:00.960 I'm not asserting

00:58:01.720 this to be true,

00:58:02.720 these are just

00:58:03.260 hypotheticals, so

00:58:04.200 you can gauge

00:58:05.880 where you stand

00:58:06.680 on this.

00:58:07.040 suppose you

00:58:08.840 knew that if

00:58:10.660 the Epstein

00:58:11.320 thing dropped

00:58:12.080 right now, it

00:58:13.700 would derail a

00:58:15.160 peace plan, and

00:58:17.860 it would cause

00:58:18.940 maybe dozens of

00:58:20.140 people to be

00:58:20.800 injured or killed

00:58:21.700 every day for an

00:58:24.160 unlimited amount

00:58:24.940 of time in the

00:58:25.540 future.

00:58:26.240 I mean, that's

00:58:26.700 nowhere near a

00:58:29.380 nuclear holocaust,

00:58:30.480 but you knew, you

00:58:33.240 knew dozens of

00:58:34.320 people would be

00:58:34.960 shot, killed,

00:58:36.820 maimed every

00:58:37.980 day.

00:58:39.840 And the only

00:58:40.980 way you can

00:58:41.500 prevent that from

00:58:42.340 happening is to

00:58:43.980 shut up about the

00:58:44.980 Epstein stuff as

00:58:46.980 much as you hate

00:58:47.800 it.

00:58:48.840 Would you be okay

00:58:49.860 with that?

00:58:50.860 Or would you say,

00:58:52.460 well, I'd have to

00:58:53.140 know where this

00:58:53.720 war is, because

00:58:55.440 maybe I care more

00:58:56.620 about knowing the

00:58:57.460 truth, then I care

00:58:59.340 about two dozen

00:59:01.040 people being shot

00:59:02.400 and maimed every

00:59:03.080 single day forever

00:59:04.460 because we couldn't

00:59:06.780 stop this war.

00:59:11.500 Are you really

00:59:12.500 saying that you

00:59:13.200 would let those

00:59:13.760 people die if

00:59:16.160 your commander-in-chief,

00:59:17.880 the person you

00:59:18.580 voted for, the

00:59:19.720 person you trusted

00:59:20.660 to make these

00:59:21.440 decisions for you,

00:59:23.340 decided that we'd

00:59:24.740 be better off if

00:59:25.520 we just don't tell

00:59:26.340 you?

00:59:27.460 Because nothing

00:59:28.020 would change,

00:59:29.580 right?

00:59:31.900 Suppose you knew

00:59:32.940 that if you knew

00:59:33.800 the whole truth,

00:59:35.200 nobody would go to

00:59:36.140 jail, nothing

00:59:37.260 would change.

00:59:39.040 It would just

00:59:39.920 destroy a peace

00:59:40.920 deal.

00:59:43.220 Well, personally,

00:59:44.780 I would say that's

00:59:45.820 what I hired my

00:59:47.280 commander-in-chief to

00:59:48.180 do.

00:59:49.840 I did not hire my

00:59:51.260 commander-in-chief to

00:59:52.580 share with me all

00:59:53.660 the secrets.

00:59:54.980 I hired my

00:59:56.060 commander-in-chief

00:59:56.900 through the

00:59:57.420 election to

00:59:58.760 make the

00:59:59.340 decision which

01:00:00.700 of these two

01:00:01.640 potentially bad

01:00:03.520 situations, they're

01:00:05.460 both bad, but you

01:00:07.920 hired somebody to

01:00:08.860 pick among the

01:00:09.540 bads.

01:00:11.260 And if somebody

01:00:13.460 said, all right,

01:00:14.720 these victims are

01:00:16.100 not coming forward

01:00:17.040 for reasons we

01:00:17.820 don't know, but

01:00:18.700 they could.

01:00:19.180 dead.

01:00:20.400 And I've got 24

01:00:22.320 people a day who

01:00:23.600 are going to die

01:00:24.220 in this war zone,

01:00:25.360 and I've decided I'm

01:00:27.280 just not going to

01:00:27.880 kill 24 people a

01:00:29.000 day.

01:00:29.840 So I'm just going

01:00:31.000 to let this

01:00:31.560 horrible, horrible

01:00:32.780 series of crimes

01:00:35.740 go unresolved,

01:00:38.660 because the person

01:00:39.800 who is the worst

01:00:40.560 person is already

01:00:42.180 dead.

01:00:42.500 there certainly

01:00:45.320 might be other

01:00:46.220 perpetrators.

01:00:49.240 So, all right,

01:00:51.020 let's take it down

01:00:52.100 a notch.

01:00:53.520 Suppose you said,

01:00:54.560 all right, I

01:00:55.820 wouldn't want 24

01:00:57.000 people to die

01:00:58.000 every day just

01:00:59.960 because I want to

01:01:01.140 know what

01:01:01.460 happened.

01:01:03.240 Suppose it was,

01:01:04.700 you don't know

01:01:05.440 for sure that it

01:01:07.500 would derail a

01:01:08.580 peace deal, but

01:01:10.200 there's a real

01:01:10.840 good chance it

01:01:11.700 might.

01:01:12.820 How about that?

01:01:15.400 Well, then you

01:01:16.160 would take the

01:01:16.860 percentage chance

01:01:18.380 that it might

01:01:18.920 derail it.

01:01:19.540 You would multiply

01:01:20.160 that times the

01:01:21.020 number of people

01:01:21.560 you think are

01:01:22.140 going to die

01:01:22.600 every day, and

01:01:23.700 that would give

01:01:24.160 you an expected

01:01:25.040 value.

01:01:26.480 So if you said

01:01:27.240 24 people a day

01:01:29.200 are going to die

01:01:29.760 in the war zone,

01:01:31.420 if I go public

01:01:35.860 with everything.

01:01:37.360 But there's a

01:01:38.140 50% chance

01:01:39.520 that everything

01:01:41.100 would work out

01:01:41.880 anyway.

01:01:43.380 Well, you

01:01:44.040 multiply 50%

01:01:45.420 times the 24

01:01:46.300 people dying,

01:01:47.680 and you would

01:01:48.160 say to yourself,

01:01:48.920 if you were

01:01:49.280 making a rational

01:01:50.140 decision, well,

01:01:51.600 it's the equivalent

01:01:52.380 of, would I

01:01:53.960 allow 12 people

01:01:55.140 to be murdered

01:01:56.860 in the war zone

01:01:57.900 every day

01:01:58.620 just so, you

01:02:01.740 know, the truth

01:02:02.440 got out?

01:02:04.540 So, anyway,

01:02:05.980 you can see

01:02:06.540 where that's

01:02:06.980 going, right?

01:02:07.480 The point

01:02:09.140 is, if it's

01:02:10.720 a national

01:02:11.420 interest, and

01:02:13.480 I believe that

01:02:14.280 Trump is

01:02:15.160 signaling to us

01:02:16.360 that it is,

01:02:18.100 he can't say

01:02:19.360 it, because

01:02:20.620 then we would

01:02:21.120 be trying to

01:02:22.620 second-guess it

01:02:23.360 too much, but

01:02:24.780 it's the only

01:02:26.460 topic where he

01:02:28.120 seems dead set

01:02:29.180 on getting past

01:02:30.140 it.

01:02:31.020 Now, if you

01:02:31.720 believe the reason

01:02:32.420 he wants to do

01:02:33.020 that is that he's

01:02:33.760 protecting himself,

01:02:34.920 himself, I

01:02:36.400 would say the

01:02:37.760 odds are against

01:02:38.520 that, because

01:02:40.180 if it were

01:02:41.440 anything bad

01:02:42.240 about Trump,

01:02:43.580 don't you know

01:02:44.360 that that would

01:02:44.880 have come out?

01:02:45.680 I mean, Biden

01:02:46.240 had the whole

01:02:46.800 file, and

01:02:47.640 there's no way

01:02:48.740 that wouldn't

01:02:49.180 have come out.

01:02:50.480 So, he's not

01:02:51.320 protecting himself,

01:02:52.600 but now I'm

01:02:53.220 going to give

01:02:53.560 you a real

01:02:53.920 dicey one.

01:02:54.760 You ready for

01:02:55.280 this?

01:02:57.400 What if

01:02:58.200 the full

01:03:00.960 disclosure

01:03:01.680 would cause

01:03:03.340 the Republicans

01:03:04.080 to lose the

01:03:05.300 majority, and

01:03:06.380 maybe for a

01:03:07.040 long time?

01:03:09.180 What about

01:03:09.860 that?

01:03:11.140 Suppose I

01:03:11.900 said to you,

01:03:12.720 I can give,

01:03:13.420 you know, Trump

01:03:14.060 could give you

01:03:14.680 all the

01:03:15.280 upstate stuff,

01:03:16.500 but there's

01:03:17.580 something about

01:03:18.340 it that will

01:03:19.620 cause 10

01:03:21.620 Republicans to

01:03:22.600 not get elected

01:03:23.360 again, and

01:03:24.720 they'll be

01:03:25.140 replaced by

01:03:26.120 Democrats, and

01:03:27.760 then everything

01:03:28.520 that Trump has

01:03:29.300 done will be

01:03:30.000 reversed.

01:03:30.540 the border

01:03:32.040 will be

01:03:32.460 reopened, the

01:03:33.880 deficit will

01:03:34.600 spiral, our

01:03:36.620 money will be

01:03:37.260 going back to

01:03:38.000 Ukraine.

01:03:39.820 What about

01:03:40.640 that?

01:03:42.020 Would you

01:03:42.700 prefer that

01:03:44.660 Trump, the

01:03:45.240 commander-in-chief,

01:03:46.920 told you

01:03:47.460 everything about

01:03:48.340 Epstein that

01:03:49.000 can be known

01:03:49.660 if you knew

01:03:51.620 that almost

01:03:53.320 certainly it

01:03:54.820 would remove

01:03:55.480 every good

01:03:56.320 thing that

01:03:56.820 Trump has

01:03:57.260 done, all

01:03:58.780 of it, and

01:03:59.660 it would stay

01:04:00.140 that way, I

01:04:01.180 don't know, maybe

01:04:01.580 for decades?

01:04:02.940 If you knew

01:04:03.780 that, would

01:04:05.240 you be okay

01:04:05.920 with him

01:04:06.360 saying, you

01:04:06.880 know what, I'm

01:04:08.200 going to make

01:04:08.520 the commander-in-chief

01:04:09.480 decision that we

01:04:10.760 can't handle that

01:04:11.480 hit, we can't

01:04:13.580 handle going back

01:04:14.320 to open borders,

01:04:15.720 we can't handle

01:04:16.640 runaway debt,

01:04:18.980 although Republicans

01:04:19.900 need to do a lot

01:04:20.780 better on that as

01:04:21.500 well.

01:04:22.720 How about that?

01:04:24.480 All right.

01:04:25.780 Now let me tell

01:04:27.000 you some of the

01:04:27.640 arguments I saw

01:04:29.000 on the other

01:04:29.400 side.

01:04:33.880 I saw Chris

01:04:36.540 Townsend, who's

01:04:39.260 a user on X,

01:04:40.900 who says the

01:04:42.780 ends don't justify

01:04:43.960 the means.

01:04:45.000 How many of you

01:04:45.680 were thinking

01:04:46.160 that?

01:04:47.220 Scott, I know

01:04:48.320 what you're saying.

01:04:49.460 You could prevent

01:04:50.260 a war, or you

01:04:51.180 could prevent a

01:04:51.840 nuclear war, or you

01:04:53.100 could prevent the

01:04:54.260 Democrats from

01:04:55.060 reversing all the

01:04:56.020 gains that Trump

01:04:56.780 made.

01:04:57.200 I get that.

01:04:58.620 But the ends

01:04:59.800 don't justify the

01:05:01.280 means.

01:05:02.520 Does anybody

01:05:03.040 believe that

01:05:03.660 that's a good

01:05:05.120 lesson?

01:05:06.000 The ends don't

01:05:06.860 justify the

01:05:07.520 means?

01:05:08.700 Well, let me

01:05:09.520 fix that for you.

01:05:11.480 The ends do

01:05:12.460 justify the

01:05:13.160 means.

01:05:13.740 That's what

01:05:14.620 national defense

01:05:15.460 is.

01:05:18.000 We're being

01:05:18.820 mean to people

01:05:20.340 who would like

01:05:20.840 to enter our

01:05:21.520 country illegally.

01:05:23.100 We're being

01:05:23.860 very mean to

01:05:24.540 them.

01:05:24.740 We're making

01:05:25.560 it very rough

01:05:26.200 on them.

01:05:27.160 Do the

01:05:27.560 means justify

01:05:28.840 the ends?

01:05:29.800 Yeah.

01:05:30.500 Yeah.

01:05:31.380 We get

01:05:33.180 involved in

01:05:33.820 wars and

01:05:34.520 bombing stuff

01:05:35.360 when we

01:05:36.300 know, we

01:05:37.640 know innocent

01:05:38.800 civilians will

01:05:39.720 die because of

01:05:40.520 our actions.

01:05:41.920 Are the

01:05:42.880 ends justifying

01:05:44.840 the means in

01:05:45.440 that case?

01:05:46.780 Yes.

01:05:48.220 The

01:05:48.500 commander-in-chief

01:05:49.460 in that hypothetical

01:05:50.560 situation looked

01:05:52.360 at the downside,

01:05:53.580 looked at the

01:05:54.060 upside, looked at

01:05:55.080 the risk

01:05:55.680 analysis, and

01:05:57.100 said, yeah, the

01:05:58.760 ends justify the

01:05:59.680 means.

01:06:00.900 It is childlike

01:06:02.520 thinking to

01:06:04.360 believe that you

01:06:05.100 could or should

01:06:06.140 live in a world

01:06:06.920 where the ends

01:06:07.660 don't justify the

01:06:08.740 means.

01:06:09.340 The ends always

01:06:10.440 justify the

01:06:11.140 means.

01:06:13.460 Well, maybe not

01:06:14.560 all the time.

01:06:15.500 You can find

01:06:16.320 some situations

01:06:17.100 where it doesn't

01:06:17.800 hold.

01:06:18.840 But for national

01:06:19.980 defense, yeah, the

01:06:21.760 ends justify the

01:06:22.720 means.

01:06:23.180 That's the way

01:06:23.660 it has to

01:06:24.260 be.

01:06:25.480 Right?

01:06:26.020 So that's

01:06:26.680 one argument.

01:06:28.760 Then I saw

01:06:29.600 Amber Champagne

01:06:30.940 on X say

01:06:33.640 that if you

01:06:34.640 wouldn't give

01:06:35.180 up political

01:06:35.880 allegiance to

01:06:37.020 weed out

01:06:37.500 disgusting

01:06:38.180 criminals who

01:06:39.180 prey on

01:06:39.700 children, then

01:06:40.860 you're in a

01:06:41.400 cult.

01:06:42.340 Well, there's a

01:06:42.900 lot wrong with

01:06:43.480 that opinion.

01:06:44.580 Number one,

01:06:46.340 have we

01:06:46.900 disproven that

01:06:48.000 Trump is a

01:06:48.680 cult?

01:06:49.740 Yes.

01:06:50.220 This situation

01:06:52.500 should debunk

01:06:54.240 forever that

01:06:56.260 people will

01:06:57.180 mindlessly follow

01:06:58.220 Trump because

01:06:59.520 they're very much

01:07:00.280 not.

01:07:01.680 They're very much

01:07:02.740 not following him

01:07:03.660 on this.

01:07:04.760 There is a

01:07:05.660 genuine divide

01:07:06.820 for good reasons.

01:07:09.040 Like I said, if

01:07:10.120 your frame on

01:07:10.820 this is the

01:07:11.460 criminal enterprise

01:07:13.200 part, full

01:07:14.760 disclosure.

01:07:15.280 And you

01:07:16.660 would not be

01:07:17.360 a dumb

01:07:17.920 person or

01:07:18.600 an uninformed

01:07:19.220 person if you

01:07:19.880 had that point

01:07:20.380 of view.

01:07:21.180 You would just

01:07:22.000 be in a

01:07:22.360 different frame

01:07:22.940 than I am.

01:07:23.680 I'm in the

01:07:24.420 commander-in-chief

01:07:25.120 frame.

01:07:26.200 From that

01:07:26.920 frame, everything

01:07:27.600 looks different.

01:07:29.920 So I think

01:07:32.100 we've disproven

01:07:32.880 the cult part

01:07:33.920 because when it

01:07:35.020 came to something

01:07:35.740 that we genuinely

01:07:36.900 disagreed on,

01:07:38.940 people broke.

01:07:40.820 They broke

01:07:42.060 with him

01:07:42.680 hard.

01:07:43.220 And they're

01:07:44.620 even saying

01:07:45.140 stuff like,

01:07:45.920 well, maybe

01:07:46.360 Republicans should

01:07:47.360 not be in

01:07:47.840 charge.

01:07:49.240 So that's

01:07:50.060 about as

01:07:50.440 non-cult as

01:07:51.480 you can get.

01:07:52.500 If you can

01:07:53.280 have a topic

01:07:54.620 like this hit

01:07:55.460 and the base

01:07:57.100 just goes,

01:07:57.660 boom, two

01:07:58.300 different directions.

01:07:59.780 No, that's not

01:08:00.460 a cult.

01:08:01.500 That's a bunch

01:08:02.100 of people who

01:08:02.640 are looking at

01:08:03.160 the situation

01:08:03.800 and making

01:08:04.220 decisions.

01:08:06.140 How about

01:08:06.700 Amber's

01:08:08.600 comment?

01:08:09.160 If you

01:08:09.440 wouldn't give

01:08:09.900 up political

01:08:10.600 allegiance to

01:08:12.320 We Don't

01:08:12.780 Disgusting

01:08:13.340 Animals,

01:08:14.480 there's no

01:08:14.920 political

01:08:15.400 allegiance.

01:08:18.040 The reason

01:08:19.120 that I'm

01:08:19.500 saying that

01:08:20.040 we should

01:08:20.620 trust Trump

01:08:21.460 as commander

01:08:22.280 in chief is

01:08:23.460 because he's

01:08:24.120 the commander

01:08:24.620 in chief.

01:08:25.560 It's not

01:08:26.280 because he's

01:08:26.840 Trump.

01:08:28.400 Now, do I

01:08:29.200 have a little

01:08:29.660 bit more

01:08:30.060 trust in

01:08:30.980 Trump than

01:08:31.460 maybe some

01:08:31.920 other people?

01:08:32.540 Yeah, in

01:08:33.100 many domains

01:08:34.200 I do.

01:08:35.720 But that's

01:08:36.640 not why.

01:08:38.800 I'm not

01:08:39.540 agreeing with

01:08:40.400 Trump because

01:08:41.780 of my allegiance.

01:08:43.660 I'm agreeing

01:08:44.600 with him because

01:08:45.280 he's the

01:08:45.720 commander in

01:08:46.300 chief and

01:08:47.340 we have a

01:08:47.820 system where

01:08:49.120 we hire

01:08:49.700 people to

01:08:50.320 make decisions

01:08:51.020 with extra

01:08:51.860 knowledge that

01:08:52.600 we don't

01:08:53.000 have on

01:08:54.220 our behalf.

01:08:55.220 It's simply

01:08:56.080 his job.

01:08:57.540 All I'm

01:08:57.940 doing is

01:08:58.360 reinforcing the

01:08:59.220 fact that

01:08:59.720 that's his

01:09:01.140 actual job

01:09:01.840 description.

01:09:02.880 He gets to

01:09:03.500 make the

01:09:03.840 decision.

01:09:04.720 He doesn't

01:09:05.380 have to tell

01:09:05.900 us why.

01:09:07.400 And when he

01:09:08.180 says it's

01:09:08.900 time to move

01:09:09.520 on, wink,

01:09:10.380 wink,

01:09:10.640 wink,

01:09:11.100 I feel it's

01:09:12.660 time to move

01:09:13.200 on.

01:09:14.720 And could I

01:09:16.940 later say,

01:09:17.860 oh man, I

01:09:18.440 was so wrong

01:09:19.060 about that

01:09:19.560 based on what

01:09:20.260 we learned?

01:09:21.340 Yes.

01:09:22.440 Yes.

01:09:23.080 It is totally

01:09:23.920 possible that

01:09:25.280 moving on is

01:09:26.160 the wrong

01:09:26.680 decision.

01:09:27.900 But where I'm

01:09:28.960 going to make

01:09:29.420 my claim is

01:09:31.680 that we hired

01:09:32.540 him to make

01:09:33.520 this decision

01:09:34.340 for us.

01:09:36.300 You got to

01:09:37.400 let him make

01:09:37.940 the decision

01:09:38.540 for us.

01:09:40.180 That's our

01:09:40.860 system.

01:09:41.900 And you

01:09:42.440 wouldn't want

01:09:43.000 it otherwise.

01:09:44.380 You would not

01:09:45.020 want to say,

01:09:46.320 oh, you can't

01:09:47.040 bomb Iran's

01:09:48.800 nuclear facilities

01:09:49.840 on Tuesday

01:09:50.500 because the

01:09:51.680 whole public

01:09:52.220 needs to know

01:09:52.820 everything about

01:09:53.480 that first.

01:09:54.700 And we all

01:09:55.240 need to weigh

01:09:55.780 in and we

01:09:56.800 all have to

01:09:57.220 be on the

01:09:57.660 cult.

01:09:59.140 You don't

01:09:59.800 want that.

01:10:01.100 No.

01:10:01.720 You want to

01:10:02.400 hire the

01:10:03.500 person you

01:10:04.220 trust to make

01:10:05.020 those decisions

01:10:05.860 for you.

01:10:07.000 And then you

01:10:07.640 want to get

01:10:08.100 out of the

01:10:08.420 way.

01:10:09.460 That's what

01:10:09.900 you want.

01:10:11.960 All right.

01:10:13.540 Did I change

01:10:14.620 anybody's mind?

01:10:16.680 I know you

01:10:17.620 want, and so

01:10:18.940 do I, you

01:10:20.420 want to know

01:10:21.120 the truth about

01:10:22.120 the Epstein

01:10:22.620 situation.

01:10:23.420 You want it.

01:10:24.900 You also think

01:10:25.960 that the victims

01:10:26.840 would be better

01:10:27.560 served by it.

01:10:29.300 Maybe.

01:10:30.520 Maybe they

01:10:31.180 wouldn't be.

01:10:33.500 Maybe they

01:10:34.160 wouldn't be.

01:10:35.580 What if,

01:10:36.400 and I'll

01:10:37.440 just toss

01:10:38.020 this down

01:10:38.480 as another

01:10:39.040 thought piece.

01:10:40.720 What if

01:10:41.240 the reason

01:10:42.000 that Trump

01:10:44.660 wants to

01:10:45.160 keep it

01:10:45.520 secret is

01:10:46.300 the victims

01:10:46.900 themselves?

01:10:48.740 What if

01:10:49.400 the victims

01:10:50.080 themselves said,

01:10:51.500 we went

01:10:52.180 through hell,

01:10:53.400 but if you

01:10:54.660 bring this

01:10:55.180 out and

01:10:56.620 you put my

01:10:58.080 abuser on

01:10:59.580 trial, or you

01:11:00.720 make it the

01:11:01.180 headline story

01:11:02.020 for years,

01:11:02.680 and then

01:11:03.540 everybody knows

01:11:04.460 exactly what

01:11:05.260 person was

01:11:06.040 my abuser,

01:11:07.080 you're not

01:11:07.620 helping me.

01:11:09.240 That would

01:11:09.940 make my life

01:11:10.680 unbearable,

01:11:11.660 because everybody

01:11:12.760 would see me

01:11:13.440 that way, and

01:11:14.380 then I'd have

01:11:15.760 to be involved

01:11:16.340 in the trial.

01:11:17.880 My life would

01:11:18.560 be on hold.

01:11:19.600 I would basically

01:11:20.420 just get victimized

01:11:21.540 again.

01:11:22.820 So as horrible

01:11:23.860 as my experience

01:11:25.080 was, Mr.

01:11:26.660 President, I beg

01:11:28.220 of you, let it

01:11:29.520 go.

01:11:29.800 Now, because

01:11:31.160 I've had 10

01:11:31.840 years of

01:11:32.320 therapy, I

01:11:33.560 feel like I

01:11:34.160 can move

01:11:34.600 on, but not

01:11:35.860 if I see that

01:11:36.620 face of my

01:11:37.600 abuser on the

01:11:38.340 news every

01:11:38.840 day, because

01:11:39.760 it would be on

01:11:40.420 the news

01:11:40.760 every day.

01:11:42.700 I prefer

01:11:43.700 that we

01:11:45.980 just let it

01:11:47.080 go.

01:11:48.000 What if it's

01:11:48.520 that?

01:11:49.280 Now, I don't

01:11:49.860 think it is

01:11:50.460 necessarily that,

01:11:52.180 but it could

01:11:52.900 be.

01:11:55.340 Anyway, and

01:11:56.680 then David

01:11:57.200 Marcus asked,

01:11:58.700 what's the

01:11:59.280 limiting principle

01:12:00.320 here?

01:12:00.840 Are we just

01:12:01.460 blindly trusting

01:12:03.080 Trump?

01:12:04.860 Well, that's a

01:12:05.980 good point.

01:12:07.440 Do you blindly

01:12:08.340 trust your

01:12:09.120 commander-in-chief

01:12:09.940 on other

01:12:10.620 topics?

01:12:11.800 And the

01:12:12.420 answer is,

01:12:13.060 no, not

01:12:13.680 really.

01:12:14.680 You don't

01:12:15.400 blindly trust

01:12:16.360 him.

01:12:16.940 What you do

01:12:17.680 is you say,

01:12:18.580 are there other

01:12:19.180 people in the

01:12:20.580 room?

01:12:21.860 Because it's

01:12:22.980 the other

01:12:23.360 people in the

01:12:23.940 room that is

01:12:25.060 why you can

01:12:25.640 trust the

01:12:26.400 commander-in-chief.

01:12:27.200 Because the

01:12:28.560 commander-in-chief

01:12:29.220 almost can't

01:12:30.080 do anything

01:12:30.700 without other

01:12:32.080 professionals knowing

01:12:33.240 exactly what

01:12:34.000 happened.

01:12:35.560 You know, it's a

01:12:36.060 small group, but

01:12:37.280 the commander-in-chief

01:12:38.100 can't really

01:12:39.100 operate completely

01:12:40.300 independently.

01:12:41.800 So, if you're the

01:12:42.860 commander-in-chief,

01:12:44.000 you have the

01:12:44.820 control of

01:12:46.300 everybody else

01:12:47.120 who knows what

01:12:47.740 you know.

01:12:48.740 And the fact that

01:12:49.780 they could talk

01:12:50.440 to the press,

01:12:51.380 they could ruin

01:12:52.220 your reputation

01:12:53.000 and history,

01:12:54.660 they could have

01:12:55.360 you jailed if

01:12:56.480 you did

01:12:56.740 something illegal.

01:12:58.020 So, it's the

01:12:58.540 other people in

01:12:59.320 the room that

01:13:01.640 allowed me to

01:13:02.320 trust Trump.

01:13:04.100 Now, in this

01:13:04.940 situation, we

01:13:05.880 saw that Kash

01:13:07.580 Patel and Dan

01:13:08.820 Bongino and

01:13:09.880 Bondi all seem

01:13:12.880 to have agreed

01:13:14.680 with Trump that

01:13:15.560 there's nothing

01:13:16.080 here.

01:13:17.580 Now, they

01:13:18.100 don't say move

01:13:19.180 on.

01:13:19.560 He's the one who

01:13:20.140 says move on.

01:13:21.520 But it looks to

01:13:22.780 me like they

01:13:24.760 were co-opted

01:13:26.020 into that

01:13:26.540 position and

01:13:28.280 that they're

01:13:28.680 not comfortable

01:13:29.800 with it at

01:13:30.480 all.

01:13:31.680 But, here's

01:13:33.280 what I trust

01:13:34.040 about Dan

01:13:34.840 Bongino and

01:13:36.520 probably Kash

01:13:37.320 Patel and

01:13:37.960 probably Bondi.

01:13:39.680 I don't know

01:13:40.060 her as well.

01:13:41.360 I don't know

01:13:41.760 any of them

01:13:42.160 personally.

01:13:43.880 I don't believe

01:13:45.160 that they would

01:13:46.240 let a horrible

01:13:47.240 injustice happen

01:13:48.580 just to be

01:13:50.620 loyal to

01:13:51.140 Trump.

01:13:52.780 Do you?

01:13:53.220 Now, I

01:13:55.080 agree that if

01:13:55.760 they became

01:13:56.320 disloyal to

01:13:57.180 Trump, it

01:13:57.660 would be quite

01:13:58.460 disruptive to

01:13:59.280 them career-wise

01:14:00.700 and reputationally

01:14:01.800 and everything

01:14:02.160 else.

01:14:03.020 But these are

01:14:03.740 really strong

01:14:04.800 personalities.

01:14:06.980 And I do

01:14:08.860 have some

01:14:09.300 trust that if

01:14:10.260 you put them

01:14:10.780 all in the

01:14:11.140 same room,

01:14:11.780 and they

01:14:12.020 probably all

01:14:12.500 have the same

01:14:13.020 information at

01:14:13.840 this point,

01:14:14.680 if none of

01:14:15.560 them are going

01:14:16.020 to break

01:14:16.380 ranks, and we

01:14:18.820 don't know if

01:14:19.240 they will yet,

01:14:19.960 still waiting to

01:14:20.780 see what Dan

01:14:21.500 Bongino does,

01:14:22.280 but if none

01:14:23.200 of them

01:14:23.460 break ranks,

01:14:24.920 it means they

01:14:26.560 know what

01:14:26.980 Trump knows,

01:14:28.020 and they're

01:14:28.980 willing to

01:14:29.460 move on.

01:14:31.000 And we

01:14:31.500 know that

01:14:32.000 they were

01:14:32.380 quite dead

01:14:35.000 set on

01:14:36.240 getting that

01:14:36.760 information out.

01:14:38.240 So there's

01:14:39.040 probably something

01:14:39.960 they know

01:14:40.720 by now that

01:14:43.320 you and I

01:14:43.780 don't know.

01:14:45.060 And it's

01:14:45.300 probably something

01:14:45.980 that Trump

01:14:46.440 knows, and

01:14:47.560 they may be

01:14:48.080 uncomfortable

01:14:48.500 with it, but

01:14:49.680 they may be

01:14:50.200 just respecting

01:14:50.960 that it's

01:14:51.660 the commander

01:14:52.740 in chief

01:14:53.200 who gets

01:14:53.580 to decide.

01:14:55.780 So, that's

01:14:58.840 what I say.

01:15:02.080 Well, the

01:15:03.000 ADL is

01:15:03.780 having a bad

01:15:04.400 month, trying

01:15:06.140 to preserve

01:15:07.180 the living

01:15:09.940 situation of

01:15:11.160 Jewish Americans,

01:15:12.480 and they're

01:15:13.180 also very

01:15:13.960 pro-Israel.

01:15:15.640 and so

01:15:17.800 their job,

01:15:18.940 the ADL,

01:15:20.040 that's the

01:15:20.700 Anti-Defamation

01:15:21.800 League, is

01:15:23.220 to go after

01:15:24.260 things that

01:15:25.160 are bad

01:15:27.440 or dangerous

01:15:28.140 for Jewish

01:15:29.520 Americans or

01:15:30.280 for Israel.

01:15:32.520 And the

01:15:33.600 ADL did a

01:15:34.280 poll of a

01:15:36.320 thousand Americans

01:15:37.200 and found out

01:15:38.620 that 24% of

01:15:39.880 them consider

01:15:41.480 recent attacks

01:15:42.400 on Jewish

01:15:42.940 individuals in

01:15:43.800 the U.S.,

01:15:44.520 quote,

01:15:44.940 understandable.

01:15:47.160 What?

01:15:48.760 What?

01:15:49.780 Remember I

01:15:50.420 always tell you

01:15:51.000 that about

01:15:51.700 25% of the

01:15:53.880 people who

01:15:54.300 respond to

01:15:54.780 any poll

01:15:55.520 have the

01:15:56.680 wrong answer?

01:15:58.360 Well, case

01:15:59.500 in point.

01:16:02.380 How do you

01:16:03.480 say that's

01:16:03.940 understandable?

01:16:06.440 Are you

01:16:07.120 serious?

01:16:08.060 Some Jewish

01:16:09.200 student is just

01:16:10.120 trying to go to

01:16:10.800 class at

01:16:11.480 Columbia and

01:16:12.900 you think that

01:16:13.520 if they get

01:16:13.940 attacked, that's

01:16:14.600 understandable?

01:16:16.160 Really?

01:16:18.140 No, that's

01:16:18.940 not understandable.

01:16:20.280 But if you're

01:16:21.380 the ADL and

01:16:22.780 your mission is

01:16:23.840 to make sure

01:16:24.340 that that

01:16:24.740 24%

01:16:26.520 shrinks,

01:16:28.240 you're having

01:16:29.380 a bad month

01:16:30.100 because probably

01:16:31.040 that's about as

01:16:32.000 big as that

01:16:32.600 number has

01:16:33.780 ever been.

01:16:34.780 And we hope

01:16:35.580 it doesn't get

01:16:36.160 bigger.

01:16:37.140 What about the

01:16:38.000 fact that the

01:16:38.940 whole Gaza

01:16:39.520 situation has

01:16:41.840 ruined, some

01:16:43.500 would say, the

01:16:44.860 brand and

01:16:45.720 reputation of

01:16:46.480 Israel?

01:16:47.740 So it's a bad

01:16:50.220 time to meet

01:16:50.740 the ADL because

01:16:51.760 they have to

01:16:52.540 deal with that

01:16:53.300 and it's not

01:16:54.000 something they're

01:16:55.300 doing.

01:16:55.800 They're just

01:16:56.220 having to react

01:16:56.900 to it.

01:16:59.240 What about the

01:17:00.180 fact that the

01:17:00.840 Epstein files

01:17:01.860 seem to be

01:17:03.340 implicating Mossad

01:17:04.620 and Israel?

01:17:06.080 Well, that's

01:17:07.220 not a good

01:17:07.680 look.

01:17:08.380 So you're

01:17:08.920 the ADL.

01:17:10.940 You've got

01:17:11.720 the Gaza

01:17:12.660 situation, you've

01:17:13.820 got the Epstein

01:17:14.480 situation that

01:17:15.920 might not even

01:17:16.480 have anything to

01:17:17.240 do with Israel,

01:17:18.360 but if the

01:17:19.040 public thinks

01:17:19.840 it does, they

01:17:21.600 have to deal

01:17:22.060 with that.

01:17:23.520 And then the

01:17:24.060 National Teachers

01:17:24.960 Union, you

01:17:26.200 heard this

01:17:26.720 probably, has

01:17:28.160 decided to cut

01:17:29.060 all ties with

01:17:29.820 the ADL and

01:17:31.120 not use their

01:17:31.860 teaching materials

01:17:33.120 or not promote

01:17:34.620 their teaching

01:17:35.220 materials that the

01:17:36.060 ADL makes

01:17:36.740 available.

01:17:38.980 And that all

01:17:40.020 just happened

01:17:40.660 in the last

01:17:42.280 several months.

01:17:43.980 You know,

01:17:44.160 Gaza took

01:17:45.820 longer, but it

01:17:46.880 gets worse as

01:17:47.600 time goes on.

01:17:49.120 So, yeah,

01:17:50.940 ADL has a

01:17:51.780 tough job this

01:17:53.580 month.

01:17:53.880 But, would

01:17:57.120 you like me to

01:17:57.880 tell you Israel's

01:17:59.460 best persuasion

01:18:00.680 trick?

01:18:02.100 And it really

01:18:02.700 is the best

01:18:03.480 one maybe I've

01:18:05.240 ever seen?

01:18:06.520 I don't know.

01:18:07.760 That would be a

01:18:08.540 big claim, right?

01:18:09.640 But I'm going to

01:18:10.520 make that claim

01:18:11.380 that this is the

01:18:13.240 strongest, most

01:18:14.460 effective, smartest

01:18:16.160 persuasion I've

01:18:19.520 probably ever seen.

01:18:20.880 and it goes

01:18:21.640 like this.

01:18:22.800 Are you aware

01:18:23.540 that Israel

01:18:24.320 routinely offers

01:18:27.400 to fly

01:18:28.760 influencers and

01:18:30.020 politicians to

01:18:30.860 Israel for a

01:18:32.920 nice visit to a

01:18:34.180 place that's

01:18:35.200 historically

01:18:35.820 fascinating?

01:18:37.700 And it's an

01:18:39.480 all-expense

01:18:39.980 paid trip.

01:18:41.660 How often do

01:18:42.680 they do it?

01:18:43.340 Well, I asked

01:18:44.120 Grok, and of

01:18:44.960 course it's

01:18:45.340 impossible to know

01:18:46.120 for sure, but

01:18:47.820 it says that in

01:18:51.080 the 2022 to

01:18:52.460 2023 academic

01:18:53.760 year that one

01:18:55.760 organization funded

01:18:57.320 and sent 443

01:18:59.020 student government

01:18:59.920 members on

01:19:01.180 trips to Israel.

01:19:03.200 443 student

01:19:04.440 government.

01:19:05.200 Now, student

01:19:05.860 government

01:19:06.360 students are

01:19:08.260 going to be the

01:19:08.760 ones who are

01:19:09.300 going to be the

01:19:10.300 leaders in the

01:19:10.980 real world if

01:19:12.120 they're in

01:19:12.460 student government.

01:19:13.200 And there

01:19:16.480 were 100

01:19:16.980 partnered

01:19:17.580 campuses.

01:19:19.000 But on top

01:19:20.020 of that, there

01:19:20.680 was something

01:19:21.020 called the

01:19:21.740 Maccabee

01:19:22.640 Task Force

01:19:23.660 that has

01:19:25.820 allegedly, again

01:19:27.360 this is from

01:19:28.000 Grok, so

01:19:28.820 Grok might be

01:19:29.660 hallucinating, but

01:19:30.440 I don't know,

01:19:31.540 allegedly brought

01:19:32.560 150 celebrities

01:19:33.940 and influencers on

01:19:35.520 fully subsidized

01:19:36.680 trips to

01:19:37.200 Israel and

01:19:39.280 encouraged them

01:19:39.960 to share

01:19:41.100 pro-Israel

01:19:42.140 content.

01:19:43.200 And even the

01:19:46.560 ADL itself

01:19:47.880 separately has

01:19:49.560 sponsored trips

01:19:50.400 to Israel for

01:19:51.840 U.S. law

01:19:52.600 enforcement

01:19:53.060 officers and

01:19:54.080 that we, yeah,

01:19:56.600 I guess law

01:19:57.240 enforcement

01:19:57.640 officers.

01:19:59.200 And this has

01:20:00.780 been going on

01:20:01.500 for quite a

01:20:02.160 while, since

01:20:02.720 the 90s.

01:20:04.620 Now, that

01:20:06.260 is the best

01:20:07.100 persuasion

01:20:08.560 I've ever

01:20:10.660 seen.

01:20:11.040 imagine, you

01:20:13.780 know, I've

01:20:14.400 told you about

01:20:14.940 the documentary

01:20:15.880 effect, right?

01:20:17.100 If you watch a

01:20:18.180 documentary that

01:20:19.100 has one point

01:20:19.820 of view, and

01:20:21.200 you watch an

01:20:21.860 hour of that

01:20:22.560 documentary, you

01:20:23.920 will almost

01:20:24.620 certainly be

01:20:25.820 convinced that

01:20:26.520 that one point

01:20:27.260 of view is

01:20:28.680 the valid one.

01:20:30.040 Because you

01:20:31.040 had an hour of

01:20:31.920 content on one

01:20:33.080 side and nothing

01:20:34.580 on the other

01:20:35.040 side, so it's

01:20:36.420 very persuasive.

01:20:37.280 But is it

01:20:38.420 true?

01:20:39.820 Is that

01:20:40.720 documentary really

01:20:41.820 the, you know,

01:20:43.380 telling you

01:20:43.780 everything you

01:20:44.360 need?

01:20:45.180 Well, no way

01:20:46.460 to know.

01:20:47.080 But it would

01:20:47.500 definitely be

01:20:48.120 persuasive if

01:20:49.420 you didn't see

01:20:50.000 the other side

01:20:50.580 of the argument.

01:20:51.680 Now, imagine

01:20:52.360 the turbo

01:20:54.060 extra special

01:20:55.500 version of

01:20:56.140 that, where

01:20:57.400 somebody spends

01:20:58.300 tens of

01:20:58.940 thousands of

01:20:59.580 dollars to

01:21:00.860 send you on a

01:21:01.760 luxury, fascinating

01:21:03.220 trip to

01:21:04.660 someplace, if

01:21:05.780 you're a

01:21:06.780 traveler by

01:21:07.440 nature, was

01:21:08.820 probably pretty

01:21:09.400 high on your

01:21:09.920 list.

01:21:11.920 Can you

01:21:12.540 imagine the

01:21:13.200 documentary effect

01:21:14.300 of being

01:21:15.280 actually sent

01:21:16.300 in person

01:21:17.080 physically for,

01:21:19.300 I don't know,

01:21:19.560 a week or

01:21:20.000 whatever, to

01:21:21.280 an exciting

01:21:22.120 place and

01:21:23.000 being treated

01:21:23.620 like a

01:21:24.560 celebrity and

01:21:25.720 having great

01:21:26.380 accommodations and

01:21:27.620 maybe some

01:21:28.560 tours to the

01:21:30.420 wall?

01:21:31.260 And the

01:21:32.180 entire time,

01:21:33.540 for a week,

01:21:34.280 you only hear

01:21:35.940 one side of

01:21:37.220 the story

01:21:37.740 because that's

01:21:39.740 why they do

01:21:40.380 it.

01:21:41.020 They do it so

01:21:42.040 you'll hear their

01:21:42.800 version of the

01:21:43.440 story, so that

01:21:44.860 it humanizes

01:21:45.840 Israel, so you

01:21:47.180 feel a physical

01:21:48.080 connection to it

01:21:49.140 because you've

01:21:49.640 spent time there,

01:21:50.820 you've met

01:21:51.260 people there,

01:21:52.180 and then if

01:21:52.980 some bombs start

01:21:53.940 heading toward

01:21:54.560 Israel, you're

01:21:55.880 going to say,

01:21:56.580 oh my God,

01:21:58.240 I know people

01:21:59.500 there, and

01:22:01.060 the bombs and

01:22:02.780 missiles are in

01:22:03.920 their city, that

01:22:05.520 would completely

01:22:06.480 change your

01:22:09.480 emotional connection

01:22:10.880 to Israel.

01:22:12.840 And so let me

01:22:14.380 say that again.

01:22:15.340 That is the

01:22:16.380 smartest, best

01:22:18.100 persuasion

01:22:20.220 technique I've

01:22:21.420 ever seen.

01:22:23.060 I don't think I

01:22:24.240 could come up

01:22:24.780 with any

01:22:26.700 example of

01:22:27.920 anything more

01:22:28.520 effective or

01:22:29.260 smarter than

01:22:31.000 that.

01:22:31.760 It's really,

01:22:32.840 really smart.

01:22:34.700 So ask

01:22:36.700 yourself how

01:22:37.460 many influencers

01:22:38.260 have had a

01:22:40.180 nice trip to

01:22:40.860 Israel.

01:22:43.980 Let's see.

01:22:45.360 Mark Andreessen

01:22:46.160 was talking at

01:22:47.160 some group, and

01:22:47.940 he said something

01:22:49.600 that you've

01:22:51.540 heard before,

01:22:53.080 but what's

01:22:54.360 special is that

01:22:55.280 you can say it

01:22:55.960 out loud now,

01:22:56.840 and you won't

01:22:57.540 get canceled.

01:22:58.120 And he

01:22:59.600 said, if

01:23:00.200 you're the

01:23:01.380 parents of a

01:23:02.040 smart kid where

01:23:03.080 I grew up,

01:23:04.420 which would be

01:23:05.180 rural Wisconsin,

01:23:07.440 and you think

01:23:08.280 you're going to

01:23:08.840 get them into a

01:23:09.600 top university in

01:23:10.640 this country,

01:23:11.320 you're fooling

01:23:12.040 yourself.

01:23:14.560 He says, what

01:23:15.460 level of

01:23:15.940 untapped talent

01:23:16.620 exists in this

01:23:17.780 country that a

01:23:18.540 combination of

01:23:19.240 DEI and

01:23:19.820 immigration have

01:23:20.540 basically cut

01:23:21.400 out of the

01:23:21.820 loop for the

01:23:22.300 last 50 years?

01:23:23.220 So Andreessen

01:23:25.580 is telling you

01:23:26.220 basically that if

01:23:28.060 you're an

01:23:28.580 American, especially

01:23:31.640 if you're white,

01:23:32.400 he didn't say

01:23:32.860 that last part,

01:23:34.220 your odds of

01:23:35.120 getting into a

01:23:35.720 top college,

01:23:36.600 even if you

01:23:37.260 have all the

01:23:37.940 qualifications,

01:23:39.960 are not just

01:23:40.920 low, they're

01:23:43.020 vanishingly

01:23:44.000 small.

01:23:46.300 Just think

01:23:47.040 about that.

01:23:48.660 You have a

01:23:49.780 brilliant kid

01:23:50.560 who's got like

01:23:51.180 a 4.5 GPA

01:23:54.200 involved in

01:23:55.420 everything.

01:23:56.440 No real

01:23:57.180 chance of

01:23:57.680 getting into

01:23:58.060 Harvard.

01:23:59.080 None.

01:24:00.640 Because they're

01:24:01.980 white and they

01:24:02.660 were born in

01:24:03.100 this country and

01:24:03.980 they would not

01:24:04.800 pay as much as

01:24:05.540 a foreign

01:24:05.880 student would.

01:24:07.600 So that's a

01:24:09.100 huge problem.

01:24:10.940 But when I

01:24:13.580 started talking

01:24:14.200 about how I

01:24:15.660 lost my two

01:24:16.780 career opportunities

01:24:18.040 when I was in

01:24:19.580 the corporate

01:24:19.940 world because I

01:24:21.160 was white and

01:24:22.000 male, and my

01:24:23.140 bosses told me

01:24:23.880 that directly.

01:24:24.940 You're white and

01:24:25.840 male, we were

01:24:27.360 told we can't

01:24:28.060 promote you.

01:24:30.320 Literally

01:24:30.840 directly.

01:24:32.480 Now that was

01:24:33.460 something I

01:24:34.040 couldn't say out

01:24:35.040 loud for

01:24:36.540 probably 25

01:24:37.600 years.

01:24:39.260 Because if I

01:24:40.220 did, it would

01:24:40.920 just get worse

01:24:41.740 for me.

01:24:42.840 Then I would

01:24:43.480 never be able to

01:24:44.060 work anywhere.

01:24:44.700 if I had

01:24:46.380 complained about

01:24:47.220 that publicly,

01:24:50.300 maybe not 25

01:24:51.700 years, maybe 20

01:24:52.800 years.

01:24:53.600 For about 20

01:24:54.500 years, I just

01:24:55.140 had to suck it

01:24:56.780 up and say,

01:24:58.580 I can't talk

01:24:59.240 about this.

01:25:01.320 It completely

01:25:02.480 controlled my

01:25:03.280 life.

01:25:04.220 Couldn't talk

01:25:04.660 about it.

01:25:05.780 But now I

01:25:07.320 can.

01:25:08.380 And now Mark

01:25:09.380 Andreessen can.

01:25:10.740 I'll also

01:25:11.360 tell you, without

01:25:12.120 giving you the

01:25:12.760 name of the

01:25:13.180 person, that

01:25:14.380 there's a very

01:25:15.020 prominent person,

01:25:18.580 somebody that you

01:25:19.240 would know and

01:25:19.840 recognize, who

01:25:21.120 did once tell me

01:25:22.080 privately that all

01:25:23.500 of their successful

01:25:26.040 white friends are

01:25:27.600 having the same

01:25:28.280 problem with their

01:25:29.120 children.

01:25:30.260 Once they reach

01:25:31.100 college age, they

01:25:32.420 can't get them into

01:25:33.520 a good college.

01:25:35.320 And that's the

01:25:36.040 first time I

01:25:36.660 realized what's

01:25:37.640 really happening.

01:25:38.320 And a lot of

01:25:40.180 them are

01:25:40.440 Democrats.

01:25:41.520 And they're

01:25:42.160 realizing that

01:25:42.880 their white

01:25:43.400 children can't

01:25:44.280 get into the

01:25:44.820 college that

01:25:45.340 they were in.

01:25:46.640 They just

01:25:47.340 can't get in.

01:25:48.360 Because there's

01:25:48.780 the wrong

01:25:49.080 color.

01:25:49.980 Or wrong

01:25:50.480 gender, I

01:25:51.720 suppose.

01:25:53.300 So I like to

01:25:55.020 think that I was

01:25:55.960 part of making it

01:25:56.980 possible to have

01:25:57.700 that conversation.

01:25:59.860 So I'm actually

01:26:01.020 kind of proud of

01:26:01.700 that.

01:26:02.280 It took me

01:26:02.800 getting canceled

01:26:03.520 and having a

01:26:06.280 whole different

01:26:06.800 career.

01:26:07.360 career.

01:26:08.220 But there you

01:26:09.000 are.

01:26:10.620 Now during

01:26:11.500 2021, right

01:26:15.360 after the BLM

01:26:16.940 stuff, there's

01:26:19.040 a stat that

01:26:19.780 says the S&P

01:26:20.720 100, the top

01:26:22.560 100 companies

01:26:23.520 in the U.S.,

01:26:24.340 of all their

01:26:25.180 hiring that they

01:26:26.300 did in 2021,

01:26:27.980 94% of it was

01:26:29.520 people of color

01:26:30.420 and 6% was

01:26:32.600 white people.

01:26:35.060 How many of you

01:26:35.660 do that?

01:26:36.020 Some of you

01:26:37.260 do that.

01:26:38.660 So that's how

01:26:39.360 bad it is.

01:26:40.640 So my question

01:26:41.540 is, when do I

01:26:42.860 get reparations?

01:26:44.560 You want to do

01:26:45.180 a little reparations

01:26:46.180 math?

01:26:47.380 So I went to

01:26:48.280 Grok and I

01:26:49.180 said, what is

01:26:51.060 the range of

01:26:52.620 potential

01:26:53.860 reparations per

01:26:55.820 person that is

01:26:57.480 being discussed

01:26:58.360 around the

01:26:59.140 country?

01:26:59.480 And according

01:27:00.880 to Grok, when

01:27:03.860 the conversation

01:27:04.620 of reparations

01:27:05.420 comes up, it

01:27:06.180 could be all

01:27:06.580 over the

01:27:06.860 place, but

01:27:07.720 typically they're

01:27:09.180 talking about

01:27:09.660 $100,000 to

01:27:10.420 $500,000 per

01:27:12.860 person who was

01:27:14.600 a descendant of

01:27:15.460 slavery.

01:27:16.620 All right, so

01:27:16.880 let's take a

01:27:18.280 midpoint.

01:27:19.400 Let's say

01:27:19.880 $300,000.

01:27:20.820 So let's

01:27:23.480 say reparations

01:27:24.460 would give

01:27:25.400 $300,000 to

01:27:27.480 every black

01:27:28.440 descendant of

01:27:29.600 slavery.

01:27:31.820 Now let's

01:27:32.840 compare that

01:27:33.640 to what

01:27:35.000 happened to

01:27:35.460 my career

01:27:36.260 over the

01:27:38.260 40 years,

01:27:39.560 let's take

01:27:40.320 30 years,

01:27:41.980 the 30 years

01:27:43.320 of my career.

01:27:44.000 Do you

01:27:45.380 believe that

01:27:46.120 my income

01:27:46.960 was depressed

01:27:48.120 by at least

01:27:49.600 $10,000 per

01:27:51.240 year for

01:27:52.800 those 30

01:27:53.500 years?

01:27:54.600 Totally.

01:27:55.720 Totally.

01:27:56.960 Yeah, because

01:27:57.700 I was literally

01:27:58.460 turned down for

01:27:59.340 promotions, and

01:28:00.980 those promotions

01:28:01.680 were all worth

01:28:02.640 probably $20,000

01:28:05.440 a year in

01:28:06.480 extra pay.

01:28:07.840 So maybe

01:28:08.700 after taxes

01:28:09.580 you keep

01:28:10.100 $10,000.

01:28:11.400 So the

01:28:12.860 fact that

01:28:13.560 affirmative

01:28:14.820 action and

01:28:15.880 the precursors

01:28:17.560 of DEI

01:28:18.360 have been

01:28:18.700 around since

01:28:19.300 the 80s,

01:28:20.700 I would

01:28:21.360 estimate that

01:28:22.000 I've lost

01:28:22.640 at least

01:28:23.840 $300,000

01:28:24.940 just for

01:28:27.120 being a

01:28:27.540 white guy

01:28:28.020 born in

01:28:29.100 the wrong

01:28:29.680 time.

01:28:31.280 So do

01:28:31.980 I owe

01:28:32.580 somebody another

01:28:33.420 $300,000

01:28:34.640 as a

01:28:36.580 taxpayer,

01:28:37.560 or have

01:28:38.980 I already

01:28:39.400 paid it?

01:28:40.840 To me,

01:28:41.720 it seems

01:28:42.120 like I

01:28:43.280 have as

01:28:43.880 strong a

01:28:44.380 case as

01:28:45.200 the

01:28:45.800 descendants

01:28:46.360 of

01:28:46.680 slavery.

01:28:47.720 Now,

01:28:47.980 obviously,

01:28:49.460 not getting

01:28:50.400 the promotion

01:28:50.980 is different

01:28:51.580 than being

01:28:52.360 a slave.

01:28:53.160 I get it.

01:28:54.340 Don't say

01:28:54.980 the obvious

01:28:55.460 thing and be

01:28:56.200 an NPC.

01:28:57.540 I'm just

01:28:57.900 saying if

01:28:58.300 you're going

01:28:58.580 to count

01:28:58.860 the dollar

01:28:59.340 amount that

01:29:01.040 you were

01:29:01.440 discriminated

01:29:02.260 out of,

01:29:03.720 mine is

01:29:04.300 roughly the

01:29:04.980 same as a

01:29:05.620 descendant of

01:29:06.200 slavery.

01:29:07.320 And there's

01:29:07.720 a very direct

01:29:08.540 connection.

01:29:09.960 I could

01:29:10.180 find actual

01:29:12.400 people who

01:29:12.880 said,

01:29:13.080 oh,

01:29:13.240 yeah,

01:29:13.800 I was

01:29:14.520 his boss

01:29:15.100 and I

01:29:16.000 told him

01:29:16.340 he couldn't

01:29:16.760 be promoted

01:29:17.340 because he's

01:29:18.380 a white

01:29:18.680 man.

01:29:20.240 So there's

01:29:21.580 something you

01:29:22.060 couldn't say

01:29:22.600 20 years

01:29:23.320 ago.

01:29:25.360 Yeah.

01:29:26.960 I would

01:29:27.680 say that

01:29:28.460 if I had

01:29:29.420 normal

01:29:32.360 career

01:29:33.980 opportunities

01:29:34.660 when I

01:29:35.140 was in

01:29:35.380 the

01:29:35.520 corporate

01:29:35.800 world,

01:29:36.700 I probably

01:29:37.480 would have

01:29:37.860 been a

01:29:38.580 CEO of

01:29:40.360 something.

01:29:41.680 You know,

01:29:41.880 not maybe

01:29:42.360 the biggest

01:29:42.840 company in

01:29:43.440 the world,

01:29:43.900 but I

01:29:44.840 had all

01:29:45.180 the background.

01:29:46.360 I had an

01:29:47.120 MBA from

01:29:47.760 a top

01:29:48.120 school.

01:29:49.400 I think I

01:29:50.380 could have

01:29:50.680 made an

01:29:51.060 extra $10,000

01:29:52.060 a year.

01:29:53.220 Pretty sure.

01:29:55.080 Anyway.

01:29:57.360 France has

01:29:58.300 decided,

01:29:59.100 according to

01:29:59.700 Breitbart

01:30:00.200 News,

01:30:01.460 that all

01:30:01.940 Palestinians

01:30:02.580 and Gaza

01:30:03.320 are eligible

01:30:04.140 for asylum

01:30:04.940 in France.

01:30:06.460 So a

01:30:06.960 court has

01:30:07.680 ruled that

01:30:09.200 if you

01:30:09.740 were a

01:30:10.160 Gaza

01:30:10.440 resident,

01:30:11.200 you don't

01:30:11.860 need to

01:30:12.320 do much

01:30:12.780 to prove

01:30:13.460 that

01:30:14.640 asylum

01:30:15.500 makes sense

01:30:16.220 for you,

01:30:16.860 and so it

01:30:17.380 would just

01:30:17.740 be sort

01:30:18.200 of automatic.

01:30:20.320 So,

01:30:21.260 problem

01:30:21.680 solved,

01:30:22.240 right?

01:30:23.920 The

01:30:24.520 residents

01:30:25.640 of Gaza,

01:30:27.460 their city

01:30:28.740 is destroyed,

01:30:29.700 and the

01:30:30.080 big question

01:30:30.580 is,

01:30:30.980 what do

01:30:31.300 you do

01:30:31.540 with the

01:30:31.840 residents

01:30:32.340 of a

01:30:33.280 destroyed

01:30:33.740 city?

01:30:34.820 Well,

01:30:35.140 you can't

01:30:35.540 move them

01:30:35.900 back in,

01:30:37.020 because it

01:30:37.400 would be,

01:30:38.000 first of all,

01:30:38.280 too dangerous,

01:30:39.800 and Israel

01:30:41.520 doesn't want

01:30:42.000 to recreate

01:30:42.460 the situation,

01:30:43.480 but now they

01:30:44.040 have a new

01:30:44.840 solution.

01:30:46.060 They can

01:30:46.780 ship every

01:30:47.800 one of

01:30:48.160 them to

01:30:49.400 France,

01:30:50.940 and France

01:30:51.840 being the

01:30:52.560 welcoming

01:30:53.100 country that

01:30:53.780 it is,

01:30:54.760 I'm sure

01:30:55.200 would make

01:30:56.220 sure that

01:30:56.640 they were

01:30:56.980 fed and

01:30:57.680 housed and

01:30:58.360 taken care

01:30:58.880 of.

01:30:59.880 So,

01:31:00.320 I don't

01:31:00.880 know if

01:31:01.200 the

01:31:01.420 Gazans

01:31:01.880 want to

01:31:02.320 do that,

01:31:03.820 but wouldn't

01:31:05.160 it be a

01:31:05.660 nice option

01:31:06.320 that you

01:31:07.000 could just

01:31:07.360 go to

01:31:07.680 France and

01:31:08.340 start a

01:31:09.440 new life?

01:31:10.540 It's not

01:31:11.180 the worst

01:31:11.520 thing in the

01:31:11.880 world.

01:31:12.020 All right,

01:31:14.380 I'm not

01:31:14.720 totally serious,

01:31:16.000 so don't

01:31:16.900 assume I

01:31:17.360 am.

01:31:19.480 Well,

01:31:19.840 George Soros

01:31:20.840 allegedly has

01:31:22.700 sent $37

01:31:24.460 million through

01:31:26.020 various charity

01:31:27.620 groups that

01:31:28.440 ended up

01:31:29.620 supporting

01:31:30.600 lefty groups

01:31:32.160 backing

01:31:32.680 Zoran

01:31:33.400 Mamdani in

01:31:34.220 New York,

01:31:34.860 according to

01:31:35.280 the New York

01:31:35.740 Post.

01:31:36.540 Rich Calder is

01:31:37.460 writing about

01:31:37.920 that.

01:31:38.720 At the same

01:31:39.340 time that

01:31:40.620 George Soros,

01:31:41.420 the billionaire,

01:31:42.740 is supporting

01:31:43.380 groups that

01:31:44.020 are supporting

01:31:44.700 Zoran,

01:31:47.380 Zoran is

01:31:49.240 saying that

01:31:49.740 there should

01:31:50.080 be no

01:31:50.440 billionaires.

01:31:52.460 So,

01:31:52.840 Soros is

01:31:53.760 funding somebody

01:31:54.720 who wants to

01:31:55.360 get rid of

01:31:55.860 Soros,

01:31:56.880 to which I

01:31:58.280 say,

01:31:59.160 huh,

01:32:00.320 I wonder if

01:32:00.900 this problem

01:32:01.520 solves itself.

01:32:03.640 Hmm,

01:32:04.420 it looks to

01:32:05.400 me like

01:32:06.040 Soros will

01:32:07.660 fund

01:32:08.080 Zoran,

01:32:09.820 Zoran will

01:32:10.400 get rid of

01:32:10.940 Soros and

01:32:12.800 then Soros

01:32:13.500 will say,

01:32:13.980 you can't

01:32:14.280 get rid of

01:32:14.740 me and

01:32:15.060 you'll get

01:32:15.380 rid of

01:32:15.680 Zoran.

01:32:17.120 I don't

01:32:17.380 know,

01:32:17.540 maybe they'll

01:32:17.860 get rid of

01:32:18.300 each other.

01:32:20.980 It's so

01:32:21.600 ridiculous that

01:32:23.200 there's a

01:32:23.560 billionaire funding

01:32:24.480 groups that

01:32:25.700 are funding the

01:32:26.340 guy who wants

01:32:26.860 to get rid of

01:32:27.380 billionaires.

01:32:28.340 All right,

01:32:28.640 that's all I

01:32:29.080 had for

01:32:29.340 today.

01:32:30.160 If you're a

01:32:31.140 subscriber on

01:32:31.880 X with

01:32:32.840 Owen Gregorian,

01:32:34.660 he's going to

01:32:35.120 do a special

01:32:37.000 spaces after we're

01:32:38.940 done here,

01:32:39.340 but only for

01:32:40.440 people who

01:32:41.660 follow him on

01:32:42.380 X.

01:32:42.740 The rest of

01:32:43.220 you will not

01:32:44.360 be able to

01:32:45.720 get in.

01:32:46.800 All right,

01:32:47.840 I'm going to

01:32:48.500 say a few

01:32:48.880 words to the

01:32:49.740 people on

01:32:50.720 my beloved

01:32:52.500 locals,

01:32:53.780 the subscribers.

01:32:56.580 And the rest

01:32:57.620 of you,

01:32:58.060 thanks for

01:32:58.400 joining.

01:33:00.080 Thanks for

01:33:00.720 changing all

01:33:01.360 of your minds.

01:33:02.740 And I will

01:33:03.720 see you tomorrow,

01:33:04.740 same time,

01:33:05.200 same place.

01:33:06.440 All right,

01:33:06.720 let's see if

01:33:07.200 this works.

01:33:09.760 Locals,

01:33:10.280 I'm going to

01:33:10.620 try to come

01:33:36.720 quickly.

01:34:06.720 Thank you.

01:34:36.720 Thank you.

01:35:06.720 Thank you.

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Episode 2896 CWSA 07⧸13⧸25

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