Episode 2929 CWSA 08⧸16⧸25
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In this episode of Coffee with Scott Adams, we discuss the latest in the news, the dangers of white supremacists, and the future of the human race. We also talk about a robot surrogate to carry a human child.
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so so good well it's saturday and as tradition requires um there will be a spaces event after
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this podcast so a few minutes after i'm done here owen gregorian will fire up a spaces
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and you can have an after party if you've enjoyed talking to each other in the comments especially
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um and all you have to do is go to x and search for owen gregorian and you'll you'll find the feed
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right there well i wonder if there's a science that didn't need to be done because they could have just
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asked me oh here's some uh according to psi post vladimir hedger is writing that uh if a couple is
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nice to each other with lots of positive um things and it's mutually positive that their relationship
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will last longer and be stronger is that a big surprise to anybody that if you bring positivity to a
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relationship is more likely to be healthy hmm huh well it's it's nice to know that that would work
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but i have a feeling that it doesn't work if one of the people is male and one of them is female
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because it seems to me that the model that's been developed over time you know evolutionary time
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uh is that women can maximize their gain by complaining because because men will do anything
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they want to make it stop so complaining and being negative has tremendous utility to to women but
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really not a lot of utility to men because then it just makes a woman hate you and uh that's about it
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but if you act positive if it were possible for both of you to act positive at the same time
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well christy noem the head of uh department of homeland security says that uh she had to move in
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military housing because she got so many death threats i guess her address got doxed for the second time
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and uh you know what i'm wondering every time i read a story about somebody being threatened or
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somebody being hurt or some kind of fight um it's almost never white supremacists have you noticed that
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how long ago was it maybe three or four years ago when the news was literally trying to tell us that the
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biggest risk in the entire country was white supremacists well they're awfully boring and lazy and quiet
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if they're dangerous they're really not doing a good job of it because i'll bet it wasn't the white
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supremacists who were uh threatening christy gnome just guessing i don't feel like there are a lot of white
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supremacists um jacking cars in washington dc it feels like whenever we hear stories of violence and
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crime there's almost never a white supremacist in the story and uh i'm disappointed because we were all
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told that that was the biggest threat to the nation i don't know where they went maybe they all got locked up
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okay well china is developing the creepiest product that you could ever imagine it's a robot surrogate
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to carry a human child um it would be like a i guess based on the brief news report it would be built
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like a regular robot with arms and legs and it would have sort of a womb it would have an artificial womb
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and so the robot would walk around with your your baby in it so that's coming if you can if you could
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think of anything that would be creepier than raising a baby in a robot's womb let me know because that's
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well uh per the financial times melissa heckel i believe i pronounced that right
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how do you say the a with the two dots over it the umlaut is that an umlaut
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well okay so melissa heckel writes that the art of persuasion um apparently the ai chat
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bots can change your mind and they can do it pretty quickly in 10 minutes so if you have a
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discussion with an ai um it can the study found that it can change your mind very quickly and very
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effectively now not every person every time and all within 10 minutes but if they measure
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um a larger um a larger group of people in a study a lot of them will change their mind based on the ai
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trying to convince them what's true and what isn't now why is that have i hey look who visited
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this is gary the cat you will be joining us on the show today if you'd like to look at gary i'll tip
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the camera down so you can look at the cat instead of me sort of an upgrade come on get me get over here
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all right that's better so um why do you think it would be true that ai would be persuasive let's see
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if i have taught you enough that you would have known that without this study um number one it's
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the documentary effect if it's just you and the ai and the ai is one point of view which typically it
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would and it's trying to convince you that one point of view is right and you spend 10 minutes
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with it it's there's a good chance it'll change your mind number two there are no egos involved
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or less of one if you're dealing with another human you're feeling like you don't want to be
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seem less than them or or dumb compared to them so you don't want to change your mind because a human
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talk to you for 10 minutes that just wouldn't feel comfortable but if you felt like the ai
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wasn't a person with an ego and it wasn't going to hold it over you if if it was right and you were
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wrong you'd never hear about it again well then you would feel like you're just doing your own research
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and changing your mind on your own so if you can get people to think that they're changing their mind
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on their own it'll happen a lot easier than if it's like one human versus another human because
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you put your shields up in those cases so yes it does make sense the ai would be super persuasive now
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here's the troubling part that super persuasion i believe happens without it knowing how to do
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persuasion it happens just because it has a good argument and has good facts and people tend to
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believe the computer so that's all it has and it can already with no real persuasion technique
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you know just presenting arguments basically it can already totally change people's opinions
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what is going to happen when it starts using the techniques of persuasion because you know it knows
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them because it got trained on all the the bodies of work in the world so yeah it knows what to do
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um but presumably it is not programmed to maximize persuasion but it wouldn't take much to do it
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so that's one of the biggest problems in the world coming at you which is ai persuasion
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all right let's talk about the biggest story i think everybody is streamed in here now we got a full
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house uh putin and trump uh putin and trump met in alaska because it's sort of right in the middle
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there and alaska of course has some historical value because it is a time when the us and russia played well
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together so in terms of setting the table as trump likes to say is a good persuasion to bring uh putin and
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trump into the one place that's maybe the most famous place in the world where russia and the us
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have gotten along well and they made a deal and it was just business and you know they were on our
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our side for some stuff and we were on their side for some stuff yeah it's perfect whoever came up with
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the idea of uh of alaska that was a home run that was just a home run so good good job on that
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um i will uh we'll just run down the list of things that people talked about with this meeting first
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of all the body language looked very positive as in both leaders did not seem to be acting when they
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were acting positively toward each other their smiles looked real their body language seemed to be uh i'm
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totally into this meeting and it wasn't creepy i mean it wasn't that good but it was really good and i
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don't think any of that was acting could have been but it really looked genuine to me
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uh trump of course tried to give putin the uh the trump handshake and there was a great build-up to it
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because trump stood in one place and made uh made putin do this long walk down the red carpet to him
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so it also made it look like putin is the one who came to him that's good very good persuasion
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but uh trump puts out his hand for the handshake and he does the classic trump thing which is easy for
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him to do because he's so much bigger than uh putin where he grabs his hand and then he pulls him in
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so that trump's entire body that putin's entire body is immediately controlled by trump because he
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doesn't want to have his hand like sticking out too far that would be awkward so he kind of follows
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his hand as trump pulls it in close to his body and it puts it puts trump immediately in command of
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putin's body he makes putin come to where he wants him to come he makes him walk the way he wants him to
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walk on the red carpet and then when he gets within a hand distance he moves them specifically where
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he wants and then he says you know follow me basically and he makes uh putin do what he wants
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him to do which is you know go wherever they're going now obviously as the host
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um it's not surprising that that trump was you know leading the way but everything about that
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put trump in control he's taller you know he's sort of more popular he's more of a star
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just everything so in terms of the setup the choice of locations and all that just perfect
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now i suspect that the traditional media since they don't deal on the persuasion level and they
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have a meager understanding of how negotiation works at this high level they're going to say stuff like
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well he just made a star and putin we'll talk about that but if you look at it purely from a
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setting the table which is the phrase that trump actually used he wasn't trying to get an agreement
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today he said he was setting the table everything i just mentioned is setting the table um so what
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else happened uh weirdly and i'd love to know more about this when uh putin and trump first met and
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then they're doing the long walk together down the red carpet it appears that they were chatting and
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joking and that they knew what the other was saying and there was no interpreter there so
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the i i saw jack posamek say that uh it must have been putin was trying to speak a little bit of
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english but he doesn't do that uh in public on camera so it makes me wonder how much english
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putin actually knows and then i've got a second a second observation just just hold this in your mind
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for a moment what do you think would be the state of relations between the us and uh and russia if
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we were dealing with a leader that spoke perfect english think about it i feel as if that language
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barrier um just sort of prevents you from ever having you know like a really good um deal now correct me if
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i'm wrong modi in india speaks perfect english right can you give me a confirmation on that i i think so
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right which uh and then it's no surprise that india and the u.s get along great and then you've got uh
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president xi and we've you know we've got kind of a tense adversarial relationship and he doesn't speak
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english now i'm not saying everybody should speak english because english is awesome but imagine how
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different things would be if they all spoke perfect english is ready is there anybody who speaks perfect
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english who is an enemy of the u.s all right there's a there's a good test for you who is an enemy of the
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u.s who also speaks perfect english there might be some hamas leader in that category uh that's a
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special case because that's a religious kind of a problem but you know north korea doesn't speak english
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um it feels to me that if something happened to putin and he were replaced by somebody who spoke
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really good english uh like lavrov or one of those guys i feel like everything would change it just
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feels like everything would be different almost immediately um and it and we wouldn't know why
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we we would assume it's because oh this new leader in russia hypothetically is just saying the right
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things well maybe or maybe it's just that if everybody's speaking the same language they come to a
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understanding you know just more naturally i believe that's true
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well let's see what else is happening so putin said uh next time maybe meet in moscow he said in
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front of the cameras so trump was on the spot and trump goes oh that's an interesting one i don't know
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i'll get a little heat on that one i can see it possibly happening thank you very much vladimir
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um so that was clever of putin because he had as i just described he was the one who came to trump
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and trump had all the the setup just right so putin was probably thinking because he's smart that if he
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could get trump to agree to go to moscow it was somewhat a race this little level difference that
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trump had just introduced you know with his setup of the alaska visit and then he then putin says it
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in front of witnesses so that trump has to react to it immediately and he wasn't really going to say
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no i'll never come to moscow so he sort of had to give it a maybe didn't he and trump gave it a maybe
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and that elevated uh putin back up to oh we must be roughly peers because i go to you you go to me
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you just haven't come yet um a lot of a lot of uh chat has been happening over the fact that
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trump also organized a flyover of the b2 bomber and its escort jets which is pretty impressive they timed
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it perfectly so it came over just as uh putin and trump were getting together and uh it was a
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impressive show of force um i wouldn't make as much a deal about it as some of the observers are who
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are happy that they found the persuasion lesson that one is so obvious that i don't know if it's really
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persuasive i mean not a lot um because russia has big weapons too so it's so heavy-handed you know
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it's so obvious that that was to influence him that probably didn't have quite the impact you imagine
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anyway i guess the press was kind of adversarial as it often is and was rudely yelling at the two
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leaders when they got together and uh there's there was some opinion that putin was kind of put off
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with it and at one point they said he said enough uh and then he and trump had a laugh about how bad the
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you know how bad the press is blah blah so that was just an interesting moment
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um let me give you some other uh some other impressions from other people speaking of uh jack
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basubic he said that uh trump after the meeting trump was up for uh what do you say he'd been traveling
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for 19 hours uh does that include both directions i don't know and uh that he was making phone calls
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until 2 a.m with the other leaders to catch him up i'll tell you having a president who doesn't need
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much sleep is really underrated it really is like having two presidents he just doesn't sleep that much
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it's kind of amazing well i guess uh zelensky's gonna come to the white house on monday so he'll be uh
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he'll be brought into it um and then uh there's some bullshit about trump is saying that everybody
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determined that the best way to end the war is go to is to go directly to a peace agreement
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and skip the ceasefire does that sound like something they really all agreed on
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because it seems to me that trump would have gotten a lot of credit if he'd gotten a ceasefire
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now a ceasefire probably wouldn't hold so you know maybe there was no point in trying because
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it wouldn't have held anyway um but uh it feels a little bit like maybe trump didn't get the ceasefire
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that he wanted and that he's you know reframing it as well the ceasefire is not important what's
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imaginary peace deal is better than an imaginary ceasefire because neither of them were going to
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happen they were both imaginary now does it seem to you like we're having some kind of weird theater
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and the theater is this unless ukraine decides to give up you know it's valuable land that russia's
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already conquered which i don't see there's any chance of that there's not going to be any kind of peace deal
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and there's not going to be any kind of ceasefire and doesn't it feel to you like the odds of a peace deal
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are close to zero does anybody have that feeling now trump is the you know the magic peacemaker so if
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anybody could do it you know he would be the one i would bet on so it's not zero not really but it feels
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like it can you imagine any scenario in which ukraine changes his mind on that land exchange
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what what scenario would allow them to do that um here's my best here's my best uh estimate suppose
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um suppose the u.s uh offered the following idea hey instead of the russian government and the
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ukrainian government deciding who gets what land of the part that's already conquered by russia
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why don't we leave it to a referendum now you might say there's no way you can get a legitimate
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referendum you can't really assume that you would get a you know a legitimate vote from the population
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well you could poll them couldn't you or couldn't you maybe you can't maybe that'd be too hard so
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suppose you said since there is no legitimate way that the governments will agree which land should
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change hands why don't we turn it over to the populations now i would think that russia now you
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and you might take crimea out of the mix because russia might say all right there's no situation in
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which we're giving up crimea so you might want to take that out of the mix but if you said for the other
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stuff if we can figure out what the population wants then we should craft our end agreement around that
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now there are a lot of russian speaking people in those conquered lands right so it might be that
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russia would get what it wanted and how much would ukraine want to keep territory that was full of
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people who would rather be russian would they be losing a lot in that case i don't know maybe be fewer
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problems so the only way i could see that a big deal could happen is if they take away from the
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governments or at least they pretend they're taking it away the question of who gets what land it's just
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got to go to somebody independent and or the population of the people there and then what i think ukraine
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mostly wants a american guarantee of security but they would stop short of demanding that they be in
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nato so my guess is that we'll promise that nato is off the table but the u.s will say something like
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but you're gonna have to get through us russia if you want to take over you what's left of ukraine
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probably something like that well what was the reaction over at msnbc did they say it's a great step
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forward uh trump really set the table no they had susan rice on and says that putin walked away with
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a quote big victory because the event made him seem like an equal as opposed to the isolated you know
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dictator that he is or should be um and nicole wallace says that she was more prepared to meet
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with vladimir putin than trump was now do you notice the mind reading when when the people the
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anti-trumpers run out of good points which happens kind of kind of quickly they go to mind reading
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now how in the world would anyone especially nicole wallace know how prepared trump was or wasn't for
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this meeting correct me if i'm wrong but the topic of ukraine has been one of his top topics for the
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entire time he's been in office and when he was running for office and if there's something he
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doesn't know about that situation in order to be prepared i would be really surprised he might be the
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most prepared person you've ever seen now i'm not reading his mind i'm just looking at the situation
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objectively is it really possible that the thing that he probably thinks about the most the thing
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that would get him a nobel peace prize you think he hasn't put enough thought into it
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that's such a dumb npc comment that he wasn't prepared there's no indication that he wasn't
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prepared in fact he probably was super prepared because he seems to be able to handle a great many
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topics without too much uh pressure that's just one more um the wall street journal said for all the
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pageantry president trump leaves alaska with little to show while uh putin got the recognition he has long
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sought now is that the case well i would argue that we cannot judge in the present whether this was a
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a plus or a minus because the setting the table thing is all about preparing for the move after
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so if you don't see the move that follows which would be the larger you know peace negotiations if you
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don't see how that turns out i believe it's ridiculous and stupid it's just stupid to give it a grade midway
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well that that would be like if you were going to grade a uh a heart surgeon by only watching while
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he opens up the front of the chest to get to get access to the heart you stop there you go oh oh look
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at that patient that patient used to be all together and now he's got a big hole in his chest i guess
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that's a big old failure wouldn't it be smarter to wait till the operation is over and then judge
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whether your operation was a success you can't judge it based on they met and they had a good time and
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they smiled at each other and they said some things you would expect them to say anyway
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um i would argue this way that how many times have you seen and i've mentioned this a number of
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times and then i see other people in the press mention it that trump likes to create assets out
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of nothing and then trade away that asset as part of his negotiation he just did that with putin
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and most people won't be able to see this but i think i've trained most of you that you can
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it goes like this before putin came to this meeting according to the wall street journal according
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to msnbc he he did not have the respect of the international community the way he wanted so we
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all agree with that part that he he had a uh isn't he like indicted or something by the national war crimes
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communal or something um we're not as signatory to that so he was safe in u.s territory but he was
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sort of this outcast demonized leader and you know should have been for good reason and that this
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put him up on a level where he's more like an equal to the united states leader so that on the surface
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that would look like a mistake right it would look like trump gave him something for nothing
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but if you know a little bit more about persuasion and you know that trump routinely creates assets
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out of nothing for the purpose of trading them away later or threatening to take them away later even
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better here's how you would see it putin just gained as critics rightly point out he just gained his status
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trump can take that away anytime he wants the status that putin gained is completely provisional
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he doesn't get to keep it because if a week from now trump trump says all right well we gave you a
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chance you little piss aunt you came over here and you smiled at me and you laughed and you tapped me on
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again and you had no intention of settling this thing so now i'm going to destroy your economy and you're a
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lying piece of and i want the rest of the world to know that do you see how quickly trump can take
00:32:25.580
that away from him so putin started with none of that respect that would put him on the same plane as
00:32:32.860
trump trump quite definitely elevated him up to just below him just below him but in the same universe
00:32:43.020
just a little bit below trump that was creating the asset and nothing now trump can take that away
00:32:52.220
so so putin goes home and he's like yeah i think i really gained something in the world opinion here
00:32:58.780
no he didn't trump owns that world opinion he can yank that back in 30 seconds he can write one
00:33:08.220
post on truth social and absolutely pull the rug out so that's trump now putin also being really good
00:33:19.500
at persuasion but you know they they each have different cards to play so it doesn't mean they'll
00:33:24.460
have an equal outcome it just means they're they're both really good at this so as much as i say trump is
00:33:32.300
amazing at persuasion and he is he's the best putin's right up there he he's not a peer but he is right
00:33:41.660
just behind him so putin knew that uh he could make trump want to keep playing with him if he said the
00:33:50.860
things that trump would want to hear one of the things they said was that the war never would have
00:33:55.420
happened if trump had been president now i don't know if that's true but boy does that fit what trump
00:34:03.660
wants you to believe because it's exactly what he says twice a day every day for months so putin just
00:34:11.020
goes out and backs him oh yeah there wouldn't have been a war if trump had been in charge now it doesn't
00:34:18.780
matter if that's true because we can't go back in time and test it out it only matters that he said it
00:34:26.140
and it was so perfectly you know strategically formed so that trump would have to say yeah i do agree with
00:34:34.780
that so that that was masterful of putin and uh putin also said um didn't he also say he thought
00:34:46.780
that's a 2020 election might have been rigged which of course trump would want to hear there
00:34:52.460
was something else he said oh yeah he said the election oh yeah listen to this um
00:35:01.660
i think this was trump quoting putin so it's not something we heard from putin directly but trump
00:35:07.580
said that putin said your election was rigged because you have mail-in voting he talked about
00:35:13.340
2020 and he said you won that election by so much it was a rigged election said it was impossible to
00:35:19.500
have fair elections with mail-in with mail-in voting now seriously if if putin sat down and he said i'm
00:35:29.020
going to make a list of the things that uh trump would most want to hear of all the things in the world
00:35:37.180
what would he most want to hear especially from putin it would be the things he said all right so
00:35:45.420
if if you're grading them on how they did a plus a plus from trump a plus from putin but i'll give the
00:35:54.540
win to trump trump gets the win because he had the um the location advantage not because he had more skill
00:36:03.500
but he just had he had a advantage before the game started and he played his advantage correctly
00:36:11.180
so the other thing that's happening here is they have to know that the other one is their sort of
00:36:21.340
sherlock holmes and professor moriarty you know they they are each other's biggest challenge and each
00:36:28.460
other's uh most capable other she is pretty capable but putin's more fun uh i think i think he's just
00:36:38.460
more fun president she looks like he's not much fun but putin even if he's evil all the time he's still
00:36:45.420
kind of fun he's got sort of that impish smile and stuff and you can imagine that if in a different
00:36:52.780
situation you could easily imagine trump and putin being you know buddies i don't believe putin golfs am
00:37:01.180
i right they've never golfed so it's too bad if uh putin spoke perfect english and golfed we'd be in good
00:37:12.220
shape um all right so then the uh european leaders um have a back to trump so they seem happy about
00:37:21.900
what's happened so far as long as the europeans and uh zelinski get involved and they are now
00:37:32.380
and apparently the u.s is prepared to give security guarantees to ukraine which is what ukraine wants
00:37:40.620
i don't know what that would look like but um let's see bill maher had his show last night and uh
00:37:47.820
uh well i continue to uh marvel at the fact that he's becoming more and more of a republican
00:37:55.500
right before our eyes but probably never probably never will get there but it's just fun to watch the
00:38:02.860
gravity it's just pulling him so hard that just a little by little he's like well okay maybe he has a
00:38:10.780
point on that thing but let me tell you all these other things i still disagree with and then he'll mention
00:38:16.380
some hoaxes and some things he doesn't understand um
00:38:22.700
so i guess it was uh friday night last night bill maher said that trump wasn't wrong on tariffs
00:38:30.220
and he wasn't wrong on forcing neighborhood to pay more and uh and then he gave trump some more credit
00:38:38.940
kind of weirdly he said i'll tell you one thing about him about trump that i know i'm not going to
00:38:44.540
tell you how i know that part's weird he goes but a lot of people have seen the same thing and mars says
00:38:50.700
he really does hate war he really does not like it when people die in war now how would bill maher know
00:38:59.500
that would it be the same way that every one of us knows it because it's the most consistent thing he's
00:39:09.180
said since he's been in public life that he wants the the war to stop he wants the killing to stop yeah
00:39:17.660
and the other the other thing that um people say about trump even his critics is that he's exactly
00:39:26.300
the same opinion in private as he is publicly so if publicly he's been saying consistently and loudly and
00:39:34.700
often as possible he doesn't like people to die doesn't like war um avoiding war is sort of his
00:39:40.780
greatest accomplishment and he should be proud of it um yeah so why would you imagine that he says
00:39:49.180
something different in private do you imagine in private he says something like you know i really
00:39:54.780
don't care if those people from other countries die you know as long as it doesn't come over here
00:39:58.860
i doubt it if every other topic in private is the same as it is in public yeah he doesn't like war
00:40:10.540
that that's the most obvious thing you could possibly say but bill maher is acting like the rest of us
00:40:16.300
didn't notice and they have some insider knowledge that trump doesn't like war okay um
00:40:25.420
um and then uh bill maher also notices because how could he not that the democrat leaders like
00:40:36.780
hillary and kamala were too afraid to come on his show but the republicans generally say yes and as
00:40:45.020
as uh bill maher says they take their beating like men i don't know if they take a beating but they do go
00:40:52.220
into a um an environment that's not in their favor and they do it easily regularly without hesitation
00:41:01.820
now that is a really fair observation um that is a real good observation there is something
00:41:09.500
fundamentally different about the republican and democrat approach to something like going on his show
00:41:15.820
now obviously he gets a lot of left-leaning people on the show more than right-leaning
00:41:23.500
but not the top leaders you know not the ones that are afraid of saying something wrong
00:41:27.660
like hillary or kamala anyway and of course they do get invited all the time as he points out
00:41:34.220
but he says uh democrats um appear to be afraid of everything
00:41:38.540
um mar says they're afraid of covid they're afraid of their own kids which he which he uh overlaps with
00:41:48.220
the trans topic um and then he but then he has to say some negative stuff about trump because he just
00:41:57.340
has to so so mar says that trump was overly friendly to putin for a very long time considering that putin is
00:42:05.340
a thug now does bill maher really not know that international relations work better if you don't
00:42:12.860
demonize the person that you're forced to negotiate with this is he the only person in the world who
00:42:18.780
doesn't know that i mean that that's what's left of his criticisms of trump are stuff like he was
00:42:27.020
overly friendly to putin that's it that's not even a flaw that's just somebody who knows how to do his job
00:42:36.940
really well anyway um walter kern i guess was on the show and pointed out that in 2015 obama met with
00:42:46.700
putin and nobody said anything about it and then mark bill maher says he met him he didn't praise him
00:42:53.420
he didn't say he's the greatest guy in the world uh i could read 20 compliments that trump has given to
00:42:58.780
him he said he's a fun guy to be with uh and he goes oh he's then he's making an epstein joke there
00:43:05.180
but again how does bill maher how can he be the only person on earth who doesn't know
00:43:13.900
that complimenting the person you're trying to influence is good form and that insulting him makes
00:43:19.900
it much more much less likely you'll get anything how does he not know that um he's pretty i think
00:43:28.060
he's i think he's pretending not to know because there's no real possibility he doesn't know that
00:43:34.700
is it i i would say every adult with an iq over 110 would know that i don't have to explain it to you
00:43:43.100
anyway um and of course uh putin is running the same play on trump you'll flatter him when he can
00:43:55.340
then the funniest thing i'm watching is that msnbc always has all these anti-trump um critics who have
00:44:03.260
to be on every day and one of them is molly jong fast and i like watching her because she's so bad
00:44:09.660
she's just so bad at it but the the lowest level i'm going to say the lowest level of pundit analysis
00:44:19.980
is that the new thing is primarily a distraction to the old thing now i know both sides say that
00:44:27.100
and i've even talked about it myself but it's the lowest level of clever analysis because the world is
00:44:36.940
full of things that are you know new news every day isn't it more likely that there's new news every
00:44:43.820
day isn't that far more likely than uh this new thing is a distraction from the old thing and the
00:44:50.700
old thing was a distraction from the thing before it i think the better way to say it is that trump floods
00:44:57.820
his own uh doesn't allow you to focus on one thing too long you know it fills up all the shelf space with
00:45:05.100
the things he wants you to think about so that part's true but this whole one thing is a distraction to
00:45:11.420
the other thing yeah it's such a low level of analysis um david axelrod you might know as one of the uh more
00:45:24.380
famous democrat advisors he says that uh trump's red carpet embrace of putin may enrage a lot of americans
00:45:32.620
um i would say that literally everything trump does enrages the theater kids is there anything trump
00:45:40.780
could do including golf they get enraged if he golfs oh we don't pay him to golf well you don't pay him
00:45:48.940
at all bitch he doesn't even take pay let him golf anyway yeah yeah we have to worry about uh democrats
00:45:59.820
being enraged by things trump does that's just everything hillary clinton um said some good
00:46:09.260
things about trump and then there's one part of it that's fake news um she hillary clinton said gave
00:46:16.300
trump credit for the nato spending going up to five percent she gave him credit for ukraine buying
00:46:24.140
weapons from the us instead of us you know giving them to him um and she thinks we have a better
00:46:31.740
working relationship with europe lately and she's actually encouraged by that so you might say wait a
00:46:38.860
minute what are all these good things that hillary is saying about him and she goes on and uh
00:46:44.540
uh she said she'd support a nobel peace prize if trump uh if trump got a peace deal without giving up any
00:46:55.180
ukrainian territory now what did the news do with her quote they find people hoaxed it up they cut out
00:47:03.340
the last part so it's a completely different message if you leave in the whole quote about um if he can do it
00:47:12.540
while uh not not giving any previous ukrainian land to russia that's the part that can never happen
00:47:20.220
in the real world literally not one person in the world not one not one person believes that this will
00:47:28.460
end with ukraine getting back all the land they had before it started so when she says conditionally
00:47:35.740
that she would uh nominate uh trump for a nobel prize if he could get a peace deal while ukraine
00:47:43.420
got back all of his land that she'd do it and then the news the fake news reported that she would
00:47:50.780
nominate him for a nobel peace prize if he gets a deal that's not the deal brennan made the same mistake
00:47:57.900
because he will get fake news too so brennan was on msnbc and he uh boosted what clinton said he said
00:48:06.140
yeah i would agree essentially that if he could do it without and also get back all of ukraine's
00:48:13.420
property that even he would nominate him for a nobel peace prize because that's impossible it's just not
00:48:19.260
going to happen when i found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from winners i started
00:48:25.180
wondering is every fabulous item i see from winners like that woman over there with the designer jeans
00:48:31.660
are those from winners ooh are those beautiful gold earrings did she pay full price or that leather tote
00:48:38.140
or that cashmere sweater or those knee-high boots that dress that jacket those shoes is anyone paying
00:48:44.620
full price for anything stop wondering start winning winners find fabulous for less and uh anyway
00:48:55.740
so i wonder if hillary clinton will try to soften her approach to trump because trump now has his
00:49:05.100
department of justice looking into all of her crimes is it possible that hillary has decided to vastly
00:49:13.500
soften her approach to criticizing trump because he she doesn't want him angry at her at the same time
00:49:21.420
he has the goods on her in the legal system because once trump decided not to go after her it was his
00:49:29.180
first term so she would know that is within the realm of possibility that he could have the goods on her
00:49:35.980
and decide not to pursue it or tell his people to stand down um so you might be seeing her softening her
00:49:45.500
anti-trump approach to keep herself out of jail that might be happening
00:49:49.740
well i guess there were some protesters up in alaska um i guess it was ukrainian protesters
00:50:00.780
funded their signs were funded by somebody who used to work for kiev's soros foundation
00:50:06.060
um i guess data republican found out you know who the funding came from at data republican on the x platform
00:50:15.180
you should follow that account she's she's amazing um and i will uh i will propose to you again the
00:50:24.620
following fact there's no such thing as organic protests in america maybe nowhere but there is no such
00:50:35.660
thing as an organic protest the if you saw the signs of the protesters it's just all these old white
00:50:43.580
retired people who must be doing it for a hundred dollars because you know that they got nothing to do
00:50:49.900
and they could use a hundred dollars none of it looks real um and i don't know if we've
00:50:57.180
now completely defanged the whole idea of uh the fake protests because once you know that they're all fake
00:51:06.940
do they still have power you know black lives matter had a lot of power
00:51:11.260
but if you knew it was fake from day one would it ever have had that much power
00:51:16.140
i don't know we we may be past the point where these big protests have the same impact we'll just go
00:51:33.500
so uh do you remember the 2018 russia summit so that was the first time that trump met with
00:51:41.100
putin and uh according to uh the federalist hans menke is writing that uh tulsi gabbard has released
00:51:52.300
two emails uh they show that just two days before the trump putin summit uh hold on uh in late 2016
00:52:04.060
dni james clapper pushed for a fraudulent narrative that russia had hacked the dnc
00:52:11.100
um and the timing apparently some of this russia hoax was timed to make it impossible for trump to
00:52:19.420
get a you know good outcome in 2018 with putin so um and as uh hans monkey monkey points out
00:52:31.100
special counsel robert muller indicted 12 russian nationals on charges of hacking the dnc
00:52:36.620
um and this is something i noted at the time too the indictment was designed to create political chaos
00:52:45.340
but muller knew that the 12 russians were located in russia and would never stand trial
00:52:50.620
meaning we'd never know for sure would we we'd never know for sure if russia was behind it
00:52:59.980
so the democrats have been using russia as their club for a long time um according to cnn's harry enton
00:53:12.060
americans trust trump and the gop on crime way more than they trust the democrats um he said that uh
00:53:22.940
well that's a pretty big deal yeah i mean if if trump and the gop are favored by quite a bit on the
00:53:32.060
topic of crime it'd be kind of hard to beat them in the in the midterms but midterms i think it could go
00:53:38.540
anyway at this point um peter schweiser points out he's an author he wrote the book clinton cash about
00:53:47.820
the clinton foundation and uh the alleged bribery and money laundering i guess uh pay to pay pay to play
00:53:57.820
and bribery it was not money laundering and although it's a form of money laundering to to do the pay to
00:54:04.220
play and the bribery but uh he points out that we now know from the new classified document releases
00:54:15.340
that the the several fbi field offices were planning to investigate the clintons for the pay to pray and
00:54:25.660
pay to play and bribery potential of the clinton foundation and uh the obama obama department of
00:54:32.780
justice told them to shut it down um and i think that peter schweiser assumes that uh and i assume
00:54:44.380
yeah i can't read his mind but i would assume he assumes it that uh if there's something going on
00:54:49.820
right now some other kind of fbi investigation into the um clinton foundation from that uh they're gonna
00:55:00.300
find stuff and it might be a real big deal and i think that too so there's nobody to tell them to shut
00:55:07.260
it down and i don't think you get multiple fbi field offices involved back in 2018 unless they had some
00:55:16.540
kind of actionable intelligence well trump is deploying 4 000 marines around latin america waters
00:55:26.700
uh to stop the uh to stop the uh drug dealers the cartels and apparently that's a pretty big
00:55:35.020
uh military so that would include warships and nuclear powered subs spy planes and a marine expeditionary
00:55:45.260
force wow um and uh some say it's just a show of force it might be more than that um and then the mexican
00:55:57.340
government has confirmed that they have approved and they knew about the us government drones flying
00:56:04.300
over mexico as part of the anti-cartel stuff so i don't know if mexico is just trying to cover their
00:56:12.540
butts by saying oh yeah we knew about it and we approved it or if we were just doing it anyway and
00:56:20.300
you know maybe they approved it i don't know and then there's uh newsom governor newsom
00:56:28.940
is still becoming crazier and crazier in his anti-trump stuff and newsom actually said in public
00:56:36.300
that he believes that trump is serious about running again in 2028
00:56:40.940
and partly he believes that because he received a trump 2028 hat in the mail
00:56:49.260
and he just reminds all the democrats that they must fight like hell
00:56:54.700
um and that ucla who is one of the entities that the trump administration is going after for being
00:57:02.220
racist he says that ucla will not sell its soul so so believe it or not newsom is siding with racists
00:57:13.260
and siding with racism because the alternative is to sell their soul so i assume their souls are
00:57:20.140
discussing racist souls and they don't want to sell them to be less racist like the trump administration
00:57:27.820
would like them to do so they are stuck in that fight like hell frame with nothing else
00:57:36.300
well trump told us and i don't believe this for a second but he says that president xi of china
00:57:43.900
told them that china will not invade taiwan as long as trump is in office quote he told me this is trump
00:57:51.900
saying that i will never do it as long as you're president but i'm very patient and china is very
00:57:57.420
patient do you believe that xi told trump that he would never do it while trump was in office but he
00:58:09.820
well that's what you say when you're trying to get elected in 2028
00:58:14.860
no i don't think he i my guess since i can't read minds is that trump is not taking seriously
00:58:23.340
running in 2028 because the constitution would not allow it and i can't imagine it would ever work
00:58:29.420
but on the other hand he probably is attracted to the idea that it's even an idea
00:58:36.140
yeah how would you not love that that there are people seriously who who would want to change the
00:58:43.020
constitution to keep you in power that'd be nice i don't think he's taking it seriously though
00:58:50.380
well the mayor of new orleans latoya cantrell according to the gateway pundit a grand jury is
00:58:57.340
charger with dozens of felony counts uh including conspiracy to commit wire fraud wire fraud conspiracy to
00:59:05.580
drug obstruction of justice making false statements etc um and it makes me wonder
00:59:14.060
given that the the problem with local government is that the way it's designed it guarantees that the
00:59:21.100
leaders will be corrupt it guarantees it it doesn't guarantee any specific leader and it doesn't guarantee
00:59:29.260
that will happen on day one but it guarantees that people who know that they can exploit that office
00:59:36.860
for financial gain are going to find ways to win that office and then exploit it for financial gain
00:59:43.740
so it makes me wonder if there's any way that the feds could have a regular audit
00:59:50.300
um function to audit local governments just for their spending just to make sure that they're not
00:59:58.940
uh paying their boyfriend bodyguards to go on vacations with them that sort of thing is there
01:00:04.460
any reason we couldn't do that now i know that the states have all the power that the federal government
01:00:10.940
doesn't have but maybe you need a would you need a constitutional change or oh how about this how
01:00:19.580
about uh the federal government funds people in cities that are a problem the ones have a lot of crime and
01:00:26.780
probably a lot of corruption uh if funds a um what would it be a uh not a petition uh
01:00:35.580
uh what do you call it when you have the public vote on doing a thing as opposed to just electing a
01:00:42.460
person what's that called but anyway whatever that's called the federal government could fund
01:00:47.980
somebody to just see if they can gather enough signatures to put something on the ballot and
01:00:53.500
that thing that could be put on the ballot is would you say yes to a no-cost referendum thank you
01:01:00.540
a referendum um would you say yes to a no-cost because the federal government will pay for it
01:01:07.180
um occasional auditing of your elected officials now how many people would say no to that it will
01:01:15.260
cost you nothing at the local level federally your taxes will pay for it but we'll be checking
01:01:21.820
your politicians to make sure they're not wasting your money would you vote for that i would i'd vote for
01:01:28.780
that in a heartbeat so there might be some way that the trump administration could get involved in
01:01:34.940
getting rid of the criminals in the cities because to me that's the biggest problem too many criminals
01:01:42.060
and i'm not talking about the ones on the streets i'm talking about the elected criminals
01:01:49.660
all right um i've got the observation that you're not going to like it at all and i i believe i've
01:01:58.380
been a hypocrite on this topic and you're welcome to call me out on it um when you see it happen
01:02:05.740
because i'm sure it'll happen again and the topic is this how do you know that the new experts
01:02:13.660
got it right and the old experts got it wrong take for example anything in the health domain
01:02:21.100
a lot of people said um hey this cancer doctor has this solution that the rest of the world doesn't
01:02:32.380
know about and this will fix you up you know cure your cancer and then i look at it and it's somebody
01:02:40.220
very qualified you know definitely qualified and their argument sounds good to me but i'm not any kind of a
01:02:48.140
medical doctor or anything but my question is this why would you believe the new guy if you don't believe
01:02:56.140
the old guys and gals if you don't believe the old experts the 98 of them why would you believe the one
01:03:05.340
who says no they're wrong so there are several people in this category and they're all persuasive
01:03:14.860
and it's because of the documentary effect if you take any one of these doctors these rogue doctors
01:03:21.580
who make claims that are different from what the mainstream doctors are claiming if you put them on
01:03:27.260
a podcast let's say joe rogan and joe rogan you know he knows what questions to ask as a interested
01:03:35.740
you know viewer would ask but it's going to give that rogue doctor um sort of a documentary
01:03:43.580
level of time to make a one-sided presentation that there would be nobody in the room who would
01:03:51.100
have any way to doubt it so unfortunately the rogue doctors are super persuasive because they often get
01:03:59.900
invited on podcasts but how would you know they're right i mean i could watch three hours of some expert
01:04:08.300
on joe rogan but i wouldn't know if they're right i would only know know they're saying something
01:04:13.020
different than other people are saying so here's my caution if you believe that the new rogue expert
01:04:22.380
has figured out how to cure cancer and the rest of the world hasn't i would say you have no reason to
01:04:29.260
believe that just because you watch somebody say stuff you don't understand on a show that
01:04:34.940
didn't have a way to check them in real time so be careful of the rogue experts
01:04:45.180
likewise i would say the same thing about climate change so steve molloy of junk science is pointing to
01:04:53.500
a new study where is it coming out of athens greece department of water resources and environmental
01:05:01.180
engineering blah blah blah so they did a study um in which they're claiming that the co2 as a greenhouse
01:05:08.540
gas is not not really having much of any effect on weather now if you believe that 98 of the climate
01:05:19.100
scientists are lying or it's really not 98 but why would you believe this what do you know about
01:05:27.100
the uh national technical university of athens just because there's a study that came out of there
01:05:35.420
that says oh climate change is you know not real at least man-made part is not real why would you believe
01:05:42.700
it now i believe it kind of i don't believe this specific study but with my my own powers of um
01:05:54.540
let's say experience and logic um i'm pretty sure that the the models are bullshit and that's because
01:06:03.100
nobody can do that kind of thing it's just not a thing anybody could do so it doesn't take much of
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an expert to say i don't think somebody's doing the thing that's impossible to do it's just not
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possible that that's a lower level of you know expertise but uh i wouldn't believe any one study
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that debunked climate change if there's lots of them then it starts to get more a little bit more
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believable but uh remember there are lots of them on both sides um i guess there's a rumor that rfk
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jr is trying to squelch that he's really preparing himself to run for president in 2028 and he says
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absolutely no way that um people are just trying to drive a wedge between him and trump and there's
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nothing to it i believe him i believe him i i feel like rfk jr um has earned trust on stuff like that
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that if it were someone else if it were adam schiff i'd say yeah it's probably a lie because he lies
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all the time but i don't think rfk jr lies he might be wrong sometimes but i don't think he lies about
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stuff so i believe um a new federal judge obama appointee is again blocking trump's plan to end
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dei in colleges big surprise and part of the reason was um people didn't want to sacrifice their personal
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values uh to get rid of racists and sexists in their college what exactly would their personal
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values be that they wanted to maintain racism in their college why would you want to maintain it
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that's a weird argument well charles not charles um davos founder schwab you remember schwab
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klaus schwab he was accused of some financial misconduct after he left the world economic forum
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well he's been cleared so he's been cleared of all wrongdoing and since i was one of the
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people who talked about that story i feel uh an obligation to say he's cleared
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all right um the runaway texas democrats who were trying to avoid a vote that would redistrict um
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are hinting that they're coming back they pretended that they're waiting to see what california would do
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with redistricting but that sounds like a fake reason i think they just knew that eventually they
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had to return to their jobs so to me what's happening is uh the inevitable so it's not
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like it was going to go some other way of course they were going to come back to their jobs eventually
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um apparently according to newsmax the white house is trying to get the indiana republicans to do some
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redistricting so they would you get yet a little bit more advantage in case california does it too
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and then in other news uh reuters reports that the u.s government could shed as many as 300 000 workers
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under the trump administration just this year in one year and that would be a 12 and a half percent
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decrease in the federal workforce since january you know what that impresses me
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now i suppose we'll hear about all kinds of stories of oh if we hadn't decreased this workforce
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this would not have gone wrong but a 12 and a half percent decrease in in government workforce in six
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months if we actually get that we it's not what we have yet but it looks like what could happen
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that'd be pretty pretty impressive i'd have to say
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um sam altman of open ai agrees that ai might be in a bubble not necessarily his company but there
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are a lot of startups that are getting ridiculous valuations so he thinks ai is in a bubble
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i agree it's definitely in a bubble um i think two things can be true that it will be the biggest
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thing ever and there's a lot of startups that are still going to fail so there's a bubblish
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um according to no ridge red meat in a healthy diet could benefit your brain
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i think this is all part of the the understanding that your gut health is
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directly related to your brain health your mental health and your brain function so
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again i would throw this in the category of why would you believe anything that science says about
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nutrition science has been wrong about nutrition every day i've been alive it's the
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wrongest science ever is about anything so yeah i mean there's a study and uh i'm tempted to eat a
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steak today to see if i feel any different but uh just so you know there's some people think
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steaks good for you i'm sure there are people who would say it's not and that will probably change
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back and forth forever well there's a social media company called gab
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which i believe is sort of like a uh x clone right it's a messaging kind of thing and uh they're a
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little more controversial so they have a they have more users who are provocative let's say um and
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their payment processor just cut them off now i'll tell you i feel like i would like a list of all the
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banks and payment processors who have cut off people because they didn't like what they were saying
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because the rest of us need to cut off those banks and process and payment processors you know
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assuming that there's competition in those areas i'd love to know who did it so that we could do it back to them
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well in oak brook illinois police now have a fully autonomous drone so apparently they have a drone
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that sits on the police department building and they can activate it to go check out a crime scene
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before the humans on the ground can get there and most of the time it would be able to get there before
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the humans could so at least you'd have some witness maybe you could break up a fight or something if
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they if they thought they were being filmed i don't know but to me this is a great idea it seems to me
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that there should be police drones in the sky um or nearby you know everything um
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i kind of like that idea i know it's going to feel like a violation of privacy and blah blah blah but
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that's already gone you lost your privacy a long time ago well i saw you post on x that's been
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fascinating me all morning you you've heard about people who don't have an internal monologue right
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so they don't hear voice in full sentences in their head now i do and always have uh i don't know what
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the percentage breakdown is but to me there's just like a demon in my head who's talking to me all the
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time i don't think of it as a demon i think of it as myself but um apparently some people don't have
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that but on top of that there are people who don't imagine things visually and i don't even know how you
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could live like that how many of you do not have a visual imagination so in my case i can produce an
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entire movie just like a netflix film and run it in my imagination i don't even have to close my eyes
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i can see every part of it i can see all the detail i can move the camera angle around so i can see the
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the movie from any angle and i can replay it and change the dialogue and just change the movie now
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can any of you not do that is there anybody here who can't produce a full motion picture in their head
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and then just watch it it makes me wonder how much of it is practice related and how much is natural
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i feel like it's always been the same for me but i also practice it every day because a comic strip is
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basically a little scene from a movie and the way you do it is first you imagine it and then when i draw
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the comic i'm projecting the image onto the page and i'm tracing it so drawing for me is sort of like
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tracing i'm not finding out what it looks like when it's done i'm seeing it done and then i'm tracing it
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i don't know what you do i i would assume that if you if you don't have that visual thing that you would
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not be able to draw and do art but if you could and maybe you can that would be fascinating too
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but it really tells you that um as as similar as it seems that we are we are so different on the inside
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the the internal life you know the real one the one that matters the most
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we are so different i mean that is such a fundamental difference in how you see the world
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anyway um that's all we got so uh in a few minutes owen gregorian will be hosting a spaces
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event on the x platform to find it um you can either find my x account i
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uh reposted it the link or you could go to owen gregorian and see the link there and you should
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be following him by the way all right ladies and gentlemen i'm going to say a few words privately
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to the beloved members of uh of my locals group but uh i'll be short so that you can make it over to
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the spaces event if you want to all right everybody else i'll see you tomorrow same time same place
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hope you had a good time hope you got your exercise done or cleaned your house or whatever
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it was you were doing while i was yapping away and the rest of you