Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2944 CWSA 08⧸31⧸25

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00:00:44.040 Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the highlight of human civilization.

00:00:48.780 It's called Coffee with Scott Adams.

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00:01:28.240 Oh, YouTube's not working? 0.99

00:01:34.460 Damn it. 0.99

00:01:36.340 No sound on YouTube, huh? 0.99

00:01:39.200 Well, or no video on YouTube either.

00:01:43.420 You know, there was something that looked like it was missing when I signed up.

00:01:53.320 Maybe that was it.

00:01:55.940 Let's see.

00:01:57.300 Whoops.

00:02:02.720 Wait a minute.

00:02:06.360 I don't know what just happened.

00:02:07.940 It looks like we're healed.

00:02:09.500 Yes, we're healed.

00:02:10.840 We're healed.

00:02:13.420 Life is good.

00:02:17.700 All right, everybody.

00:02:19.620 Now we're going to have a show, if you're ready for that.

00:02:23.820 Would you be surprised to know that there's a new meta study on coffee and health?

00:02:29.340 And guess what?

00:02:31.600 Once again, for the millionth time in a row, coffee is good for you.

00:02:35.760 It's good for your cardio, your diabetes, your cancer, your respiratory disease, your liver disease,

00:02:40.920 your kidney disease, your cognitive decline, and your Parkinson's.

00:02:47.280 Yeah. 1.00

00:02:48.160 It's all from coffee, but don't add too much sugar and whatever crap you put in there. 0.94

00:02:54.400 That will take away all your benefits.

00:02:55.840 Would you be surprised to know that there's yet another study on vitamin D and your health?

00:03:05.100 How do you think that turned out?

00:03:07.940 Vitamin D and your health.

00:03:09.980 Do you think it's good for your health?

00:03:12.240 Yes.

00:03:13.120 They could have just asked me.

00:03:14.480 Apparently, your telomeres, which are those things which shorten when you're aging quickly,

00:03:21.240 they don't shrink as fast.

00:03:24.360 If you're doing your vitamin D, so make sure you get your vitamin D, people.

00:03:30.900 Yep.

00:03:31.900 I like to put my vitamin D in my coffee while I'm exercising.

00:03:37.940 Get it all.

00:03:38.780 You remember when we were told that the Great Barrier Reef and all the coral was going to die

00:03:47.320 because of climate change?

00:03:49.080 Because it was just too warm for that coral to keep going.

00:03:54.460 And then if the coral has a tough time, that affects the other stuff in the ocean.

00:03:59.720 And well, the next thing you know, we're all dead.

00:04:02.460 But it turns out that was a bunch of BS, according to the CO2 Coalition.

00:04:09.780 The Great Barrier Reef has had better times, but instead of going in one direction, it has recovered.

00:04:17.660 And does anybody know why?

00:04:22.480 Apparently, it's one of those things that goes up and down and has been doing that for a long time.

00:04:29.080 So, it doesn't look like climate change is affecting the coral reef yet.

00:04:38.640 Well, Zero Hedge is telling us that half of American schools,

00:04:44.300 they're doing what's called equitable grading instead of the usual kind.

00:04:51.740 You know, the usual kind, if you didn't turn in your homework,

00:04:55.820 you would be graded down.

00:04:57.880 But if you have something called equitable grading,

00:05:02.440 then, eh, homework.

00:05:06.420 Some people turn it in, some people don't.

00:05:11.220 So, and then apparently, let's see, what else?

00:05:15.600 You could also retake tests if you didn't do well.

00:05:20.960 Gary the Cat has decided to visit.

00:05:24.300 All right, Gary.

00:05:25.200 Gary.

00:05:27.880 Gives him, oh, hello.

00:05:31.220 Don't knock over the microphone.

00:05:33.760 No.

00:05:34.860 Don't knock it over.

00:05:36.060 Just purr into it.

00:05:39.000 There you go.

00:05:40.640 That's good.

00:05:43.760 Are you picking up that purr?

00:05:47.400 All right.

00:05:49.980 All right, that's your part of the show, Gary.

00:05:52.120 Gary, steal the show.

00:05:57.720 Gary, how am I supposed to follow a pet or a baby?

00:06:04.120 You can't.

00:06:05.180 They steal the show.

00:06:06.680 If you're listening to this, I'm deeply sorry that you're missing the best part.

00:06:11.940 All right.

00:06:12.320 But what I was going to say is that half of those schools have equitable grading.

00:06:17.180 So, how do you suppose the students in those schools do when they know they don't have to do the homework and they can retake all the tests?

00:06:28.700 Well, it turns out that they'll do terrible.

00:06:30.760 So, equitable grading is just another way that probably the teachers' union is destroying the country, if not the whole world.

00:06:41.780 Well, there's a problem, as you know, with fake science.

00:06:51.660 And part of it is that there's fake science, but there's also fake scientific journals.

00:06:58.560 Did you know that?

00:06:59.800 Especially useful for other countries where they don't have as much, you know, I guess, infrastructure built out for science.

00:07:09.360 There are these fake publications that will say, if you give us $1,000, we will publish your paper and tell people it was peer-reviewed, even though they don't actually peer-review it.

00:07:23.540 So, a whole bunch of papers, like a lot of them, got published that were not peer-reviewed.

00:07:31.640 They were just fake, fake peer-reviewed.

00:07:34.680 But, a bunch of computer scientists figured out how to use AI to look for the sketchy ones.

00:07:43.120 Now, those would just be the ones who are outright fraud.

00:07:47.740 What we also know is that the ones that are not trying to be a fraud, about half of them turn out to be not reproducible studies.

00:07:57.520 So, these are two separate problems.

00:08:01.620 One is that even if everybody's trying to do the right thing, more than half the time they fail, so that a peer-reviewed paper is just BS.

00:08:11.500 On top of that are these massive problems with frauds.

00:08:18.700 It's not just like a little thing that happened a few times.

00:08:21.640 It's massively integrated with the whole system that there's all these fake publications.

00:08:30.500 So, science is halfway to making itself look like guessing.

00:08:37.420 And, right now, honestly, science is worse than guessing, because guessing is sort of a coin flip, you know, 50-50.

00:08:48.480 But, if you add together all the problems with allegedly peer-reviewed papers, probably more than half of them, you know, as in more than 50%, are fake.

00:09:01.360 So, if you think that science is better than guessing, it's the other way around.

00:09:10.180 Guessing, if you flipped a coin, you'd be right about half the time, that either the study worked or it didn't work, or they proved their case or they didn't.

00:09:18.800 You can't reach 50% with the current scientific process, because there are too many frauds.

00:09:25.780 It takes the average down below 50%.

00:09:28.360 It's literally worse than guessing.

00:09:34.100 Oh, well.

00:09:35.120 Now, I don't think that's literally true.

00:09:37.240 Somebody will argue with my statistical approach to that.

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00:10:41.820 But, if you want to hear the good news, if you've done a fake scientific study, and you knew it, you knew it was fake, and then you apply to one of the fake scientific journals, I think since both of you would be frauds in that case, it would be peer review.

00:11:04.180 Well, there's an article in the Washington Times by Seth MacLachlan, who's talking about, well, the title is that feats of strength become the 2025 limits in Trump's era of masculine politics.

00:11:28.840 And it's giving a bunch of anecdotes that are not terribly persuasive, but I think they lead in the right direction.

00:11:37.980 You know, P. Hegseth and Bobby Kennedy did the push-ups and everything.

00:11:45.620 So, everybody's in the Trump world.

00:11:49.820 The idea here is that people are trying to be more masculine, and other politicians are trying to keep up.

00:11:56.300 So, it's turning into a competition who's more masculine.

00:12:02.060 And that's true.

00:12:05.800 But I would like to point out that the theme of fitness came from the bank of voters and supporters, not from the top.

00:12:17.040 So, Trump is not really the driver of the manly stuff, although, you know, he goes to MMA fights and does manly things.

00:12:26.440 But I think that a lot of his supporters were the pro-physical fitness people.

00:12:33.340 And so, I think it trickled up more than it trickled down.

00:12:37.840 That's my take.

00:12:39.860 I think that started at the bottom and just became a thing.

00:12:43.620 I don't think it was a thing before.

00:12:45.760 There were some just persuasive pro-fitness people on the right.

00:12:52.300 I tried to do my best there.

00:12:54.880 Apparently, Boston is experiencing more freed-up rental property than in recent times.

00:13:06.320 So, it's somewhat easy to rent a place in Boston now.

00:13:10.860 And that would be mostly, they believe, because of all the foreign students who were sent back and maybe other immigration actions.

00:13:21.000 So, I wonder if that will happen in all the major cities.

00:13:26.700 And could it be that Trump's immigration practices, shipping people back, will it be enough that it will lower the price of rents?

00:13:39.140 Because that would be huge.

00:13:40.740 Could you imagine the entire middle class, or at least the renting class, finding out that suddenly things are more affordable?

00:13:52.540 That would be a pretty big deal.

00:13:55.380 We'll see.

00:13:56.900 You know, Boston is a college town.

00:13:58.940 So, maybe it was just the college effect.

00:14:01.020 It won't necessarily spread to every city.

00:14:04.180 Well, according to the Gateway Pundit Joel Gilbert is writing, this is so perfect.

00:14:13.300 So, you know how Letitia James, she's one of the people who was accused of mortgage fraud for calling her second home also a primary home. 1.00

00:14:24.660 So, if you're confusing the stories, the Lisa Cook, the Fed chief, is also accused of the same thing.

00:14:34.560 So, it's easy to get those two confused.

00:14:37.200 But Letitia James allegedly, and I think this is not confirmed, but it was, you know, confirmed enough that the Gateway Punda published it.

00:14:47.320 And the idea is that there's a family member who is staying at her secondary home who is wanted by the department of, is wanted by the authorities for, what did she do, charge, what was her crime?

00:15:10.500 Letitia James, she's an absconder, whatever that means, is wanted for violating probationary terms. 1.00

00:15:20.660 So, that would make her sort of a wanted criminal, if you will, in a way.

00:15:26.860 And, but the interesting thing is if Letitia James knows that she's wanted by the law and she's harboring her in her home, that would be a crime. 1.00

00:15:40.500 So, Letitia James, she's, she's really going to regret that she wouldn't have to drop.

00:15:50.080 You know, the, the thing about, you know, what they always say, if you make a, if you try to kill the king, you better make sure it succeeds.

00:15:59.820 Because if the king finds out you took a run at him, it's going to be pretty bad.

00:16:05.480 So, that's what, that's what Letitia James is learning.

00:16:11.200 That if you decide to lawfare the president, you better get the job done.

00:16:17.140 If you miss, it's coming for you.

00:16:21.120 And I don't mind at all.

00:16:23.280 You know, I don't like lawfare in general.

00:16:25.440 But lawfare as revenge for lawfare, I'm all for it.

00:16:32.360 A hundred percent for it.

00:16:34.860 Well, apparently, there's what's being called a gold rush for podcast stars.

00:16:41.540 So, so you already know that left-leaning podcasters are getting paid by some big dark money group that, you know, wants to, wants to make sure they have their own Joe Rogan, but they can't get one.

00:16:57.000 So, they're going to pay a bunch of much lesser Joe Rogans and see if they can add them all together, I guess.

00:17:03.240 And then there are some big media companies that apparently are talking to some big podcasters to see if they can kind of bring them under their brand and pay them way too much, millions of dollars.

00:17:15.960 Apparently, Sean Ryan, reportedly, is talking to some media entity that would pay him millions of dollars.

00:17:25.520 And so, apparently, being a popular podcaster is a real good way to make millions of dollars.

00:17:33.240 Unless, unless you've been canceled for a rant, I'll tell you again that nobody's ever tried to bribe me.

00:17:44.640 And I think nobody's even tried.

00:17:48.220 Now, I wouldn't take a bribe to, you know, change what I do because I do it as much because I like it as I do it for the money.

00:17:56.360 I mean, I can do other things for money, but I like doing this.

00:18:00.800 So, nobody's ever tried to bribe me.

00:18:03.280 It wouldn't work, but you're not even going to take a, you're not even going to take a try.

00:18:08.860 So, anyway.

00:18:15.580 And you do wonder about the entities that are trying to take them over because you know that they're going to control the content.

00:18:24.760 Not 100%.

00:18:26.240 But no matter how independent they're supposed to be, there's going to be some clause in their contract that they can't have, you know, Hitler as a guest or whatever it is.

00:18:35.880 So, there's always going to be a little bit of, you know, independence lost if you're part of a big deal.

00:18:43.860 But I do not begrudge anybody who takes, let's say, $10 million when they get offered.

00:18:51.300 So, that would not be a sin.

00:18:54.320 It's all legal.

00:18:57.340 Well, Tucker Carlson had some expert on his speaking of podcasts talking about antidepressants and mental health.

00:19:09.320 And what this expert, whose name I did not write down, was saying that if you studied people who are depressed and you, you know, look at their blood and their chemistry, it all looks normal.

00:19:25.080 So, they don't actually have less serotonin.

00:19:28.860 That's just never been the case.

00:19:30.760 So, apparently, the experts don't really know what causes somebody to be depressed.

00:19:39.840 And according to this guy, he says that they just sort of give up and say, well, just tell people it's a chemical imbalance because we assume it is.

00:19:50.080 But nobody knows what chemical might be imbalanced.

00:19:52.560 If you did, then you could give somebody whatever is the part that's missing, in theory, and it might fix them.

00:19:59.700 But nobody can identify any chemical imbalance that you could fix.

00:20:06.200 Now, I have a hypothesis, which I checked with Grock, just to make sure it wasn't crazy.

00:20:14.060 So, Grock did not confirm my hypothesis, but it's one I've had for a long time.

00:20:19.080 It goes like this.

00:20:21.400 Depression is a just low-energy state.

00:20:24.960 So, that what you feel as depression is just the result of low energy.

00:20:31.600 Now, what causes low energy, you know, could be a variety of things, I suppose.

00:20:37.280 But have you ever been really happy when your energy is really low and you're just wiped out?

00:20:46.220 Possibly, but usually not, right?

00:20:49.080 If your energy is low, you also feel, ugh.

00:20:52.620 And have you ever been depressed, but at the same time your energy was great?

00:20:58.120 You're like, oh, man, I got plenty of energy.

00:21:00.180 I could go for a run.

00:21:01.740 But you're also depressed.

00:21:04.400 Not really.

00:21:06.280 Right?

00:21:06.560 It's possible, I suppose.

00:21:07.920 But the correlation between when your energy is good, you don't feel bad, is pretty strong.

00:21:18.360 So, my hypothesis is that maybe even anxiety.

00:21:24.460 Because anxiety feels like it's just some irrational thing that popped up.

00:21:31.180 But if you had lots of energy, are you usually feeling confident?

00:21:37.960 You know, I suppose there's a frightened energy, too, that you could have.

00:21:41.540 But if you had, you know, nice, strong energy, you probably wouldn't feel nearly as anxious or as depressed.

00:21:51.260 So, what I wonder is, is there anything you can measure?

00:21:55.700 Probably not, because we know that depression also causes a lack of energy.

00:22:03.200 But I'll bet it's far more two-way than medicine acknowledges.

00:22:10.560 That's my hypothesis.

00:22:12.520 That if you could fix people's energy, they would have a better mental state.

00:22:18.140 Now, that's also consistent with the fact that when people exercise, they have better mental health.

00:22:25.140 Because that's been proven a million times.

00:22:27.660 What also happens when you exercise?

00:22:30.980 You get better, cleaner energy.

00:22:34.840 Right?

00:22:35.660 So, all the indicators are pointing toward these mental health problems having some kind of energy-related element to it.

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00:22:50.840 Check.

00:22:51.380 Closed the garage door?

00:22:52.540 Yep.

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00:22:56.540 No.

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00:23:16.280 Did you know that only 37% of adults have sex weekly?

00:23:23.300 Now, when I say weekly, that's spelled W-E-E-K-L-Y. 0.98

00:23:30.200 I don't know the percentage of people who have sex weekly, as in W-E-A-K, but there must be some. 0.92

00:23:39.480 You want to have sex? 0.95

00:23:40.780 All right. 1.00

00:23:41.900 Uh, I'm done.

00:23:44.000 Well, that was pretty weak.

00:23:46.560 So, some people do it weekly that way.

00:23:49.520 I don't know how many.

00:23:51.380 But the general social survey said 37% of it, uh, have it, uh, once a week.

00:23:58.280 Um, only 37%.

00:24:01.160 And a quarter of people between 18 and 29 have not had sex in the past year.

00:24:07.300 To which I say, isn't that normal?

00:24:11.240 I, I would have imagined that at any time in my life, um, a quarter of the people my age were not having any sex.

00:24:20.360 That's what I thought.

00:24:23.140 Anyway.

00:24:24.280 But, uh, I checked on Grok, and porn usage is way up.

00:24:29.080 And people are saying, aha, it's that porn usage that's causing less sex in the real world.

00:24:36.120 Is it?

00:24:36.900 How many of you think that that's a, a real identifiable cause?

00:24:42.640 There might be more than one.

00:24:44.080 I believe there, there is.

00:24:45.960 But how many think that porn is the reason that, uh, there's less real world sex?

00:24:52.660 Um, I wonder if it doesn't work the other way around.

00:24:56.920 As in, if you've decided to not have real world sex, or you're unable to get it, are you just going to go without?

00:25:06.460 Or are you going to say, well, at least I can fall back on this.

00:25:10.740 So, I've got a feeling that a lack of access to sex is one of the things that makes people look at porn. 0.81

00:25:19.320 Um, you know, if, if you could have sex three times a day with your favorite partners or partner, how much porn would you even be interested in?

00:25:30.360 I mean, you might, you might like a little just for a change of pace or something, but it's not going to, you're not going to be obsessed with it.

00:25:39.880 Anyway, maybe it's the phone usage too.

00:25:42.520 There's a whole bunch of reasons.

00:25:43.800 People are less healthy, blah, blah.

00:25:45.220 Um.

00:25:49.320 Let's see.

00:25:52.440 So, we know now that the, uh, dark money, as I mentioned, is going from, uh, Democrats to a variety of, um, left-leaning podcasters.

00:26:03.800 And, uh, data Republican figured out, you know, where the money's coming from.

00:26:09.340 And you can see it flowing through and getting to the podcasters.

00:26:12.440 I don't believe that that exists for Republicans, right?

00:26:17.720 I believe that Republicans get their influencers the honest way, which is somebody just is good at what they do and they became a good influencer.

00:26:26.760 Why is it that only one side of politics has legitimate, organic, talented influencers and the other side doesn't have any unless they're paid and even they're not breaking through.

00:26:45.800 So, is that a coincidence?

00:26:48.420 I mean, that would be the biggest coincidence in the world, wouldn't it?

00:26:52.120 That only one side of the political world can have a, uh, like a really influential podcaster?

00:26:58.920 I don't know.

00:26:59.400 Uh, so I guess, uh, David Pakman is allegedly one of the people who's getting paid to be a podcaster.

00:27:09.680 Uh, they say, well, speaking of sketchy things, um, apparently there was a ex-postal, uh, employee who was in charge of being a postal investigator.

00:27:24.460 So his job was to investigate, uh, mail fraud.

00:27:29.100 Um, do you want to take a guess of what, what happened with the guy whose job it is to investigate mail fraud?

00:27:37.220 Uh, I'll give you another hint.

00:27:40.300 Part of his job is to figure out when somebody was being scammed with a mail scam, uh, which ones of those letters coming from the people being scammed would have cash in them.

00:27:54.380 Because apparently there's a scam where they get old people probably to mail them cash just through the mail. 0.73

00:28:01.000 So the investigator told the, the, the people to look for certain kinds of mail.

00:28:07.220 That would have cash in it because they were victims of a scam.

00:28:11.380 And then he told them instead of delivering the cash to the fraudster, they should give all the envelopes with the cash to the U.S. postal inspector.

00:28:23.380 The investigator.

00:28:25.640 So do you think that the, uh, U.S. postal investigator upgraded his swimming pool?

00:28:32.920 Yes, he did.

00:28:36.380 Apparently he was just keeping all the, he just, he was, uh, essentially he was scamming the scammers out of their own money.

00:28:45.040 So the victim still lost their money, but so did the scammer.

00:28:51.080 And he was just, he was just living the good life.

00:28:57.280 Oh, I'll tell you, if you ever want a good job, be a U.S. postal investigator.

00:29:03.780 Uh, guys, uh, you're going to have to send all of these highly illegal envelopes full of cash.

00:29:11.900 Send them to me.

00:29:13.840 All right.

00:29:15.780 Um, Trump, uh, you, you probably heard that there was some noise, some people saying that there's something wrong with Trump.

00:29:24.720 Um, but he apparently went golfing this weekend and he's doing posts and it looks like he's got an interview.

00:29:31.840 So he doesn't seem to be deceased in case you thought that.

00:29:36.340 So that rumor was going around for a little while.

00:29:39.080 Um, but there does seem like there's something going on.

00:29:42.520 Um, so I'm definitely in the camp of saying, uh, I wonder why he's going to be so quiet this weekend and, uh, relative to, to Trump.

00:29:55.380 So, you know, that plus the fact that he's got, you know, swollen hands and that's been a little bit unexplained.

00:30:03.520 I am worried about him.

00:30:05.560 I'm worried about him.

00:30:07.220 So I'm officially concerned.

00:30:10.360 I, it doesn't look like it's, you know, necessarily deadly or anything, but I'm concerned.

00:30:18.260 Um, but he was asked, uh, recently by the, the daily caller, I think, uh, Reagan Reese asked Trump, uh, if he'd be bothered if, uh, James Comey and John Brennan, uh, got handcuffed and arrested for their role in Russiagate and maybe other things.

00:30:38.980 And Trump said, would not bother me at all.

00:30:42.600 Now, uh, and then he went on to say that four years ago or during his first term, um, you know, that he sort of shut down the law fair.

00:30:53.060 Uh, and he explained how, you know, Hillary Clinton obviously could have been, you know, arrested for something.

00:30:58.960 And he decided to not let that happen.

00:31:02.720 But then now, now that we know so much about Russiagate and we know what all the bad people did pretty, pretty reliably.

00:31:11.360 And specifically, we know what they did.

00:31:13.400 And you can see, you know, the entire structure of the, uh, the coup attempt.

00:31:21.020 And, uh, I feel like what Trump's doing is softening up the room.

00:31:26.840 I feel like, you know, one of the things you need to do is make sure there are lots of news stories about the things that, that his, uh, enemies did.

00:31:36.140 So that's happened.

00:31:38.000 So we've seen story after story in which they're implicated in the crime.

00:31:42.300 So that's sort of softening the room.

00:31:45.020 Because if you just went, you know, hog wild and, and had your people arrest all of your critics, there's no way the country would put up with that.

00:31:55.300 So first, he has to make sure that everybody's at least aware that there are credible reports of all these people doing illegal things.

00:32:06.160 Credible.

00:32:07.260 Now that doesn't mean you necessarily would arrest them all.

00:32:10.460 But I feel like then the next thing would be for him to make you think about it.

00:32:15.320 So when he says stuff like it wouldn't, like it wouldn't bother me at all, you can really now visualize, you know, Brennan and Clapper and maybe even Obama literally in handcuffs, you know, being taken to the car, the perp walk.

00:32:31.580 Now, that doesn't mean it will turn out that way.

00:32:34.640 But it does mean that if you've seen the stories in the press, which has happened, and then you also, you also talk about it so that people imagine it like it's already happened.

00:32:49.900 And knowing that the wheels of justice are kind of slow.

00:32:54.920 So if you imagine those guys getting arrested, and you just keep imagining it for months, and then one day you turn on the TV and you see the thing you've been imagining for months.

00:33:08.600 Yeah, if you're a Democrat, you're definitely going to pretend to have some feelings about that.

00:33:15.240 But all your feelings will have sort of been dissipated by the fact that you've been thinking about it for months.

00:33:21.840 And it hadn't happened, and by the time it does, you will have heard a million times what they're accused of, and you'll know that there are documents to back it up.

00:33:30.740 So I feel as though the Trump administration, and Trump in particular, they have softened up the environment just right.

00:33:40.780 Meaning that I believe that they can arrest these people if they have the goods, and that the country would complain, but it's got a lot on its plate.

00:33:52.000 So as long as Trump is ending crime and closing the border and getting some tariff deals done, I think that the country is ready to see some of these bad guys arrested.

00:34:07.760 So we'll see.

00:34:08.800 I'm still going to bet against it, by the way.

00:34:13.160 So if you want my prediction, there might be indictments.

00:34:19.340 I'll say there will be indictments.

00:34:22.100 But I don't think any of them are going to go to jail.

00:34:26.780 I think they might be ruined by the process.

00:34:30.160 But I don't know that they'll go for jail.

00:34:33.120 Speaking of that, MSNBC had John Brennan on.

00:34:37.600 And, of course, he was defending everything he did and saying Trump was terrible.

00:34:43.260 But I've never heard John Brennan sound so afraid.

00:34:47.560 Just his voice.

00:34:49.660 He seems completely guilty and scared to death.

00:34:54.460 And, you know, I can't read his mind, but certainly the things that we've seen that are public would suggest he's certainly guilty.

00:35:05.540 And he should be very afraid of that because they have the goods on him and they're just making him twist, apparently.

00:35:14.260 I mean, does he have to wonder if there's going to be a grand jury about him, John Brennan?

00:35:21.420 Yeah, I don't think he has to wonder.

00:35:22.920 I'm pretty sure there will be a grand jury situation with him.

00:35:28.700 It doesn't mean he goes to jail or anything.

00:35:32.980 What do we got here?

00:35:33.880 Yeah.

00:35:39.840 Yeah.

00:35:41.020 So, yeah, Brennan just looks scared to death.

00:35:44.480 And I don't know that you look like that if you're innocent.

00:35:47.920 I mean, I guess some people who are innocent, like Caputo, have been destroyed by the process.

00:35:54.640 So, I guess you could be afraid even if you were innocent, but I don't think that's what's happening in this case.

00:36:02.820 Trump also said he's going to issue an executive order requiring voter ID for every vote.

00:36:09.260 And he's trying to get rid of mail-in ballots the same way.

00:36:12.540 Now, of course, any of that kind of stuff is going to go to immediately.

00:36:16.760 There'll be lawsuits, and we don't know how any of that will turn out.

00:36:19.680 So, he might not be able to have, in the end, any control over that directly.

00:36:25.540 But let's say he did, or even if he didn't.

00:36:29.900 Here are the things that determine who gets elected in our fake system.

00:36:36.400 Number one, if you're a Democrat, apparently the party leaders decide who's going to get nominated.

00:36:44.820 So, I think the whole nomination process is a little bit fake, as we saw the way Harris got nominated.

00:36:54.080 So, there's that.

00:36:56.440 Then you've got these EOs about voter ID and mail-in ballots.

00:37:01.400 If those things are allowed, it probably gets you a different result than if they're not allowed.

00:37:06.340 So, is it the voters who are deciding, or is it the existence of EOs and whether the court said yes or no to the EO?

00:37:16.800 What about the gerrymandering?

00:37:19.040 That will determine a lot.

00:37:21.300 What about the fake news?

00:37:22.780 What about Mark Elias and all of his thousands of lawsuits and rule changes and stuff like that?

00:37:31.560 That made a big difference.

00:37:32.980 How about the podcasters and the lawfare against some politicians but not others?

00:37:39.720 What about the opposition research?

00:37:42.520 None of those things talk to the capability of the people running for office.

00:37:50.740 And none of them are anything like a democratic republic.

00:37:54.020 It's all just rule attacks.

00:37:59.580 So, whoever gets to have the most influence on the rules of voting, somewhat reliably will be in charge.

00:38:07.660 So, given that Trump has a majority in the Supreme Court, in theory, he can bend the rules and get away with it, with the Supreme Court's approval,

00:38:22.920 until he's just got a dominant control position for the Republicans, which would be for them to lose.

00:38:32.800 So, that's what's happening.

00:38:34.340 It's hard for me to even see anything like a democratic process.

00:38:40.460 Are all of you that jaded?

00:38:42.400 Are you as jaded as I am?

00:38:44.600 That our system of government, really, it's not about citizens expressing their will.

00:38:52.700 There's nothing like that happening.

00:38:55.360 The citizens are assigned opinions by whatever news they watch.

00:39:00.140 And then there's all these rule, all the people involved in changing the rules, who will determine which of those people win.

00:39:11.380 Because it's always amazingly really close.

00:39:14.640 So, that the rules changes are the determinative factors.

00:39:19.500 So, anyway, that's the world you live in.

00:39:22.760 It's certainly not any kind of democratic republic or anything close to it.

00:39:27.080 The Wall Street Journal is talking about the middle class squeeze, which means financially.

00:39:35.820 And, of course, people have been talking about that for a number of years now, because the middle class keeps getting hollowed out.

00:39:42.840 But I feel like it may be reaching some kind of a breaking point, finally.

00:39:50.480 Because unless rent does go down a lot, and food prices do go down a lot, and somebody figures out how to do child care.

00:40:00.660 By the way, why does child care cost so much?

00:40:03.360 Are there really no retired grandmas who would take, you know, three kids and charge you a fraction of what the professionals are charging? 0.99

00:40:13.740 There's just, there's no way to work that out?

00:40:16.460 I don't know.

00:40:17.440 So, the middle class is in trouble.

00:40:20.200 And I don't know that things Trump is doing, while generally good things, in my opinion.

00:40:26.260 I don't know if they're going to make enough difference fast enough.

00:40:28.880 But they're in the right direction.

00:40:32.400 So, we'll see.

00:40:34.320 I feel like there's some big response coming.

00:40:38.580 And it will be something like, I talk about this endlessly, some kind of a Lego house that you can build yourself, so that the cost of building is really low.

00:40:47.820 Or, some kind of arrangement, where people who want to have babies are in good shape.

00:40:59.220 Gary, stop it.

00:41:03.100 I don't know.

00:41:03.660 We'll fix that.

00:41:05.160 We'll fix that whole middle class problem. 1.00

00:41:07.800 So, one of the people who got ousted from the CDC, I forget if he was fired or he quit in protest.

00:41:21.400 But anyway, he was the CDC vaccine chief, Dmitry Daskalakis, who apparently had a very colorful personal life, which is documented in social media.

00:41:33.360 And, you know, I won't get into it because I'm not judgy.

00:41:38.140 But I have to say, he's an interesting guy.

00:41:43.220 His social life looks like it's more interesting than yours, I will say.

00:41:49.240 But he said that the crux of his concern about the CDC is that the data coming out soon will be showing that, quote, something is causing autism and that it will be blamed on vaccines.

00:42:05.400 Do you think that's coming?

00:42:06.660 Do you believe that RFK Jr. is going to basically use fake science?

00:42:14.440 Because he's not complaining that the data might be accurate.

00:42:19.500 He's complaining that the data would be inaccurate and the science would not be good and it would connect autism to vaccines.

00:42:28.520 That might happen.

00:42:30.240 Anything is possible.

00:42:31.220 But do you believe that RFK Jr. would find it to his advantage to give the country fake science and then kill people by taking away their vaccines that hypothetically could be totally safe or safe enough?

00:42:51.620 I don't know.

00:42:53.080 I'm very curious what is going to come out of this.

00:42:56.720 To me, one of the biggest stories of the year will be when Kennedy comes out and says, well, we may not have every answer, but we have determined and we're positive that this or that or this is causing autism.

00:43:12.240 That is going to be really, really a big deal.

00:43:17.280 Like a really, really big deal.

00:43:19.540 Because for one thing, it might open up somebody to lawsuits, right?

00:43:24.700 If he finds out there's something in the food supply, whoever makes that thing or sells that thing, they got some, you're going to have to answer some questions.

00:43:36.560 Anyway, so back to the story of Lisa Cook, the Fed governor that's Trump fired, but she says she's not fired because he can't do that.

00:43:46.980 So she's like Schrodinger's cat of Fed governors. 0.86

00:43:53.220 She's both fired and not fired. 0.77

00:43:55.820 We won't know until we look in the box later.

00:43:58.700 But what's interesting is that, I think it's Eli, not Ellie.

00:44:06.820 Honig, he's a legal expert.

00:44:11.300 Oops, don't stop on that, Gary.

00:44:14.160 He's a legal expert on CNN.

00:44:16.140 And I've always enjoyed his commentary because he does the best job of taking the politics and the bias out of the legal discussion, which means somewhat frequently he will say something that sounds unambiguously like you heard it on Fox News.

00:44:38.240 Now, that's a compliment because it means that he's just following the law where the law goes.

00:44:45.220 And so he's not like, oh, we got double cats.

00:44:48.860 I thought that was Gary, but that was Roman. 0.99

00:44:53.660 So what was I talking about?

00:44:55.480 So Ellie Honig is talking about Lisa Cook and does find that her activities with her mortgage, which, again, is that two homes and calling them both the primary resident.

00:45:14.380 So he does say that's kind of sketchy, and he thinks that a judge might agree with Trump, that her behavior is within the domain of the president to decide if she's gone too far and that's cause for removal.

00:45:31.540 So he's not saying that Trump is right.

00:45:34.240 He's saying that the argument is strong enough that he can easily imagine a judge siding with Trump.

00:45:42.100 Now, that's interesting.

00:45:44.380 And let's see.

00:45:49.060 Yeah.

00:45:51.120 Apparently, there are, I don't know if I should believe this or not.

00:45:55.340 It's just something I'm seeing on social media.

00:45:57.340 So tell me if these stories are fake or maybe they happened not recently.

00:46:03.500 So I saw one report that there are anti-immigration protesters in Osaka, in Japan.

00:46:11.420 Is Japan having any kind of a public revolt against the Japanese immigration process, which I think is loosening up?

00:46:22.300 Is that true?

00:46:23.140 But also, I saw a video of many thousands of people doing some kind of anti-immigration protests in the UK.

00:46:31.440 And apparently, that involves carrying a lot of flags, so protesting and the flag is part of it.

00:46:40.180 Now, is that true?

00:46:41.500 Or is that just something that happened in one town that one time?

00:46:46.340 Is there a major uprising in the UK?

00:46:51.340 Because I don't know that it's major, but it's happening.

00:46:56.700 I mean, there's definitely some uprising.

00:46:58.480 I feel like it's too late for the UK.

00:47:01.120 This is something they should have done years ago.

00:47:04.700 And I'm starting to think that the only democracy that's going to survive is one that has a Trump.

00:47:12.260 If you don't have a Trump, there's not somebody willing to literally risk their life and their freedom to change things.

00:47:21.900 And that's what it takes.

00:47:23.060 I mean, you literally have to risk your life and your freedom to make a difference in any of the immigration or that stuff.

00:47:34.180 But also, there are reports, so maybe this is all related, that for the first time in modern history, according to the Wall Street Journal,

00:47:45.280 populist conservative parties are leading the polls in all three of Europe's biggest economies, the UK, France, and Germany.

00:47:53.700 So do you think that's a thing?

00:47:56.620 Do you think the conservatives will win in all three countries and then clamp down on immigration?

00:48:03.460 I don't know.

00:48:05.320 Maybe.

00:48:06.640 But I don't know if, like I said, it's probably just too late.

00:48:11.900 I think all those countries are essentially going to be different countries.

00:48:18.000 I'll just say that.

00:48:19.220 Anyway, Governor Pritzker, some say, is slimming down.

00:48:28.360 Maybe he's taking one of those, whatever those fat reduction drugs are.

00:48:34.500 But that's good for him if he's getting healthier.

00:48:38.100 That's great.

00:48:39.740 Some say it's in preparation for running for president.

00:48:43.040 Maybe.

00:48:44.040 Maybe.

00:48:45.660 Do you think that Governor Pritzker looks at his own chances and says, yeah, yeah, I could be the next president?

00:48:55.320 Because I don't see that.

00:48:59.400 I don't think he has the charisma, the kind that you need.

00:49:03.640 I think he's got Chris Christie charisma, which is really good up to about the state level.

00:49:12.080 And it just, it's like Tim Walz.

00:49:15.320 Tim Walz has state level charisma.

00:49:18.860 It just doesn't have national charisma.

00:49:22.720 Gavin Newsom, I hate to tell you, has national charisma.

00:49:31.680 Now, he's not my choice, but he's not limited by his charisma to a state level.

00:49:38.980 Like, he doesn't have a cap.

00:49:40.780 He's got the kind of game you can very easily just imagine seeing him in the White House.

00:49:45.860 Unfortunately, I hate the fact that I can so easily imagine it.

00:49:51.360 But he does have the game to get there under the right conditions.

00:49:58.620 Apparently, Indonesia is having major protests in the streets over, I guess, the economic disparity,

00:50:07.260 the difference between the elites and the average people.

00:50:10.520 And the average people are trying to rise up.

00:50:13.440 But apparently, there was, as part of one of the demonstrations,

00:50:18.260 there was a moment when an armored vehicle accidentally ran over one of the protesters,

00:50:23.980 who was also a middle-class worker kind of guy, a ride-hailing driver.

00:50:30.040 And if you're already having street protests about the elites,

00:50:36.480 not caring enough about the middle class, 0.95

00:50:38.600 you really don't want to have a money truck running over one of the protesters.

00:50:44.340 That's like the worst look you could ever have, a money truck run.

00:50:48.680 You know, the money, of course, belonging mostly to the elites, one assumes.

00:50:54.900 So it's just a bad look.

00:50:57.900 But what I don't know, and now I'm curious because I'm so jaded,

00:51:02.700 do you think that if it's true that Indonesia is having these big street protests,

00:51:08.000 do you think they're organic?

00:51:09.920 Or do you think that there's a country doing a color revolution on Indonesia?

00:51:16.760 And it doesn't mean it's us.

00:51:19.280 It could be China using the same color revolution tricks. 0.70

00:51:24.060 Now, the color revolutions largely involve, they involve a number of things,

00:51:31.100 you know, controlling the media and, ow, cap, ow, cap biting my toes, ow.

00:51:39.720 But definitely they always have to include street protests

00:51:43.840 so that the other citizens believe, oh, protests are, you know,

00:51:48.660 ordinary people like me are rising up against the leaders.

00:51:51.960 So you don't get that look unless you've got people in the street.

00:51:57.100 So I always assume that people in the street is always fake.

00:52:04.120 Okay, I'm really getting eaten alive here.

00:52:07.240 Which cat is doing that?

00:52:10.580 Is that you?

00:52:12.240 Which cat?

00:52:15.320 I don't know.

00:52:16.820 I think that's Roman.

00:52:19.800 Roman's the toe biter.

00:52:21.960 All right.

00:52:24.480 Separately, New York Post is reporting that at least some people believe,

00:52:31.340 based on a UK-based report by the Harry Jackson Society,

00:52:36.360 you know, the Harry Jackson Society.

00:52:39.240 No, it's a Henry Jackson.

00:52:41.020 Harry Jackson is actually a sexual reference.

00:52:44.500 So what did you guys do last night?

00:52:51.600 Oh, man, had a couple of drinks.

00:52:53.660 And the next thing you know, we're doing the Harry Jackson.

00:52:59.880 All right, but that has nothing to do with the story.

00:53:02.620 I mean, it's really the Henry Jackson Society.

00:53:05.220 It's determined that Iran's Islamic Republic is getting close to collapse in civil war.

00:53:14.140 Do you believe that?

00:53:16.160 Do you believe that Iran's government is close to collapse?

00:53:20.620 I don't know.

00:53:22.200 It feels like the thing that you say when you want to make them collapse.

00:53:28.160 I just don't think that Iran has that energy to overthrow their current government.

00:53:37.120 Maybe.

00:53:37.400 But I'm going to say probably not.

00:53:41.400 Trump also told Daily Callers or Reagan Reese that he thinks a trilateral meeting with Ukraine is likely.

00:53:51.160 In other words, Putin and Zelensky and Trump, the three of them.

00:53:55.280 But he thinks that a bilateral is less likely, the kind where Zelensky and Putin meet.

00:54:02.020 Now, I've told you this before.

00:54:04.060 However, I haven't really seen anybody else say it.

00:54:08.540 So you can tell me, is this just really obvious?

00:54:11.600 Is everybody saying it because it's so obvious?

00:54:15.780 Here's what I think.

00:54:17.700 I think that Zelensky and Putin, because they've probably almost certainly tried to kill each other. 0.73

00:54:25.240 Like, I'll bet you both of them have greenlit plans to kill the other.

00:54:30.940 How do you put them in a room?

00:54:32.700 Like, even, you know, even if you say, but I'm an analogy thinker, and it reminds me of an analogy of other leaders who once got together.

00:54:44.360 Like, FDR met with Stalin, to which I say, did Stalin try to kill FDR?

00:54:52.660 Did FDR ever try to kill Stalin?

00:54:54.880 Or were they just, you know, they were bad guys, but we had to work with them to win a war?

00:55:01.960 There's not really an analogy for that.

00:55:06.540 Can you think of any situation in which the two leaders who genuinely tried to kill each other and essentially did great damage to each other's countries?

00:55:17.820 Can you put them in the room without anybody else?

00:55:22.480 I don't think he can.

00:55:24.140 I think that their hatred and distrust of each other would go so deep that there was just nothing good that could come from it.

00:55:32.500 But if you throw Trump in the room, then he has that way of making everything about him.

00:55:39.400 And then suddenly it's two people concentrating on Trump, which might work.

00:55:45.240 It might work.

00:55:46.620 I'm not really optimistic about it, but it would work better than the bilateral.

00:55:52.160 So I don't think there's any chance of a bilateral meeting.

00:55:55.200 I think everybody knows it'd be a waste of time.

00:55:57.680 It might make things worse.

00:55:58.740 Well, did you know that more than 60%, according also New York Post is writing about this, more than 60% of Gen Zs, the American Gen Zs, support Hamas over Israel?

00:56:16.200 60% of Gen Z supports Hamas, not just the Palestinians, but Hamas.

00:56:26.420 60%.

00:56:26.860 What?

00:56:29.540 What?

00:56:31.500 If I were the leader of the ADL, I would declare that I had failed completely in trying to improve the reputation of Israel.

00:56:43.880 All right.

00:56:44.700 I got multiple kind of situation going on here.

00:56:48.920 But that's pretty amazing, 60%.

00:56:55.640 And then at the same time that they – oh, come on.

00:57:02.980 Off the keyboard.

00:57:03.820 Separately, but related, the Israeli government is reportedly, according to people who have knowledge of the inside conversations, the Israeli government is reportedly debating annexing part of the occupied West Bank.

00:57:19.980 And it might be a big part, like 60% of it or something.

00:57:23.680 To which I say, as I always remind you, I don't have advice for Israel. 1.00

00:57:34.000 It's not my country.

00:57:35.440 And I also don't believe that my sense of ethics or morality or what's good for my country should have anything to do with what they do.

00:57:45.180 I mean, it's entirely their business.

00:57:48.480 So we're observers – cats – we're observers on this.

00:57:53.840 We're not participants.

00:57:55.800 You know, even if you wanted to be a participant, you're not.

00:57:58.740 You don't get a vote.

00:58:00.900 Nobody cares if you're mad about it.

00:58:03.760 You're just not a participant.

00:58:05.500 We're just watching.

00:58:06.280 So here's what I observe.

00:58:13.220 Whether or not annexing the West Bank and making sure that there's never a two-state solution – and if it is, that the second state is just a little bit of a nothing.

00:58:25.140 So no matter whether you think that's a good idea or a bad idea, I'll tell you what is true.

00:58:32.240 There's never been a better time to do it.

00:58:34.700 It might be a bad idea.

00:58:37.860 Like it might just cause, you know, so much trouble that you wish you had never done it.

00:58:42.600 It might be a bad idea.

00:58:44.480 But there's definitely not going to be a better time to do that bad idea.

00:58:50.580 So if they feel lucky, and I don't know if they do, they might make a run at it.

00:58:56.940 If I had to predict, I'll predict that they don't.

00:59:01.920 I'll predict that they debate it, but decide the risk is too high because they need to wrap up Gaza. 0.92

00:59:09.560 They can't – probably don't want to open up a whole, you know, extra can of worms right now.

00:59:15.620 So at the same time, it's no better time for them to do it.

00:59:21.980 And the reason I say that is that their reputation is so bad already, if the Gen Zs are 60% in favor of Hamas, that it's not going to get much worse. 0.76

00:59:31.360 And there's so much happening there that it's a good sort of confusing environment where there's too much to talk about.

00:59:41.680 Well, then you can sneak in the stuff that people don't like because there's just so much to talk about that people don't like that there's just one more thing.

00:59:50.560 So I'm not recommending it.

00:59:52.900 That's not advice.

00:59:55.480 I'm just saying as an observer, probably there'll never be a better time.

01:00:00.960 And it could be a disaster, by the way.

01:00:03.560 There's a real strong chance it would be just disastrous.

01:00:07.040 But never a better time.

01:00:11.620 So I'd hate to be trying to make that decision.

01:00:18.120 All right.

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01:00:39.760 People who follow him.

01:00:40.720 Followers, not subscribers.

01:00:42.620 The people who follow him on X.

01:00:45.420 So that'll happen after the show.

01:00:46.940 And I'm going to talk privately to the beloved members of Locals.

01:00:53.320 And we're going to play with my cats a little bit.

01:00:57.000 We're starting to fight.

01:00:59.120 No, one cat is starting to fight.

01:01:00.980 And the other one is trying to ignore him.

01:01:08.040 Guess which one is instigating the fight?

01:01:10.600 That's right.

01:01:11.300 It's Gary.

01:01:12.980 Yep.

01:01:14.560 Gary's trying to instigate a fight on my notes.

01:01:19.720 All right.

01:01:21.060 I'll let you all watch that for a minute.

01:01:23.560 This will be your moment of Sunday's end.

01:01:27.260 Cats wrestling.

01:01:30.980 I watch this so much during the day.

01:01:34.860 Oh, don't fall off.

01:01:37.520 You going to fight back? 0.68

01:01:38.480 You're just going to let your brother bite you. 0.98

01:01:41.980 There you go. 0.99

01:01:51.380 I love the paw on the head.

01:01:54.860 I knight you, sir kitten.

01:02:02.660 All right.

01:02:04.480 Now, don't you think some media company should be offering me $10 million for my podcast?

01:02:09.880 For this content.

01:02:12.560 You've never seen better.

01:02:14.900 Can David Pakman do this?

01:02:17.000 No.

01:02:19.900 Can Tucker Carlson do this on his podcast?

01:02:22.960 No.

01:02:23.780 No.

01:02:24.660 I'm the only one.

01:02:26.720 Catfights.

01:02:27.280 Catfights.

01:02:29.920 All right.

01:02:30.740 That's enough of that.

01:02:34.680 Locals, I'm going to come at you privately. 1.00

01:02:36.680 The rest of you, thanks for joining.

01:02:38.780 I'll see you again tomorrow.

01:02:40.280 Same time, same place.

01:02:42.660 Got some surprises for you.

01:03:00.740 Bye.

01:03:02.140 Bye.

01:03:03.300 Bye.

01:03:04.300 Bye.

01:03:04.840 Bye.

01:03:05.140 Bye.

01:03:05.820 Bye.

01:03:06.440 Bye.

01:03:07.220 Bye.

01:03:07.880 Bye.

01:03:09.580 Bye.

01:03:14.140 Bye.

01:03:21.300 Bye.

01:03:21.960 Bye.

01:03:26.060 Bye.

01:03:26.560 Bye.

01:03:26.600 Bye.

01:03:26.800 Bye.

01:03:27.160 Bye.

01:03:27.940 Bye.

01:03:28.860 Bye.

01:03:29.880 Bye.

01:03:30.340 Thank you.

01:04:00.340 Thank you.

01:04:30.340 Thank you.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - August 31, 2025

Episode 2944 CWSA 08⧸31⧸25

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