Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2950 CWSA 09⧸06⧸25

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00:02:04.880 well as tradition recently dictates owen gregorian will be hosting a spaces event right after this

00:02:14.080 and uh you can talk more about the topics i talk about today or probably some other stuff too

00:02:22.000 so look look for owen gregorian on x all right um well this is hard to believe um really unbelievable but

00:02:36.240 i said something incorrect yesterday and so i need to correct it um i was talking about the

00:02:44.080 that tesla app the robo taxi app it was the number one download and i mistakenly thought

00:02:51.680 that that app was to turn your own car into a robo taxi which is coming that'll be a real thing

00:02:59.040 but i was corrected uh that that's probably just the app for calling the robo taxi so if you're in one of the

00:03:07.040 cities where they roll it out um you'll have the app all right well can you believe it i saw a story in

00:03:17.280 the daily caller news well the daily caller news foundation a story about sea levels have not been

00:03:24.240 surging despite years of climate uh activists yelling that they would so the journal of marine science and

00:03:32.880 engineering published this peer review paper and as you know all peer review papers are exactly accurate

00:03:42.720 have you noticed that well have you noticed that when the science is in the direction of something i want

00:03:50.480 to be true or it makes me look like i was right about something but i automatically assume it must be some

00:03:57.920 pretty solid science the best you can do to block your own bias it is sort of keep score and say to

00:04:09.360 yourself huh it does seem to me that i don't do as much skepticism on the science that that agrees with me

00:04:20.400 and this would be more of that but apparently i i think it is reasonably true that the sea levels have

00:04:27.680 not been uh rising at a rate that would suggest the climate models were correct and you know what i say

00:04:36.320 about the climate models right wait till they find out about the climate models

00:04:44.720 you know the the best kind of predictions to make are the kind that really really can't be wrong

00:04:52.800 there's not even the slightest chance that if you went you know forward enough in time there's not

00:05:00.080 the slightest chance that the you know the final uh let's say verdict on climate models there's not a

00:05:08.240 slightest chance that in the future they will say you know those climate models they really nailed it

00:05:14.640 you all know there's no chance that right the only question is how long it takes so that's why i think

00:05:22.400 it's funny to just keep asking the question yeah and and sort of tease it yeah when you find out about

00:05:30.720 those climate models well you've heard the stories about scientists engineers could turn wi-fi routers

00:05:41.840 into a tracking device that knows where you are and even who you are i believe and it can track you in your own

00:05:49.360 home well now they've got um some technology that could track heartbeats without you needing to put anything

00:05:59.840 on your body so your wi-fi router uh you know if it were adapted to do it um i guess it would just be

00:06:08.400 software would be able to detect your heartbeat and uh and your pulse i guess is that the same thing and

00:06:17.520 i wonder it it makes you wonder how many other um passive health related things could happen

00:06:28.960 because could you imagine inviting somebody over to your house and they don't know that your wi-fi

00:06:34.400 is measuring their heartbeat hey uh bob it looks like you got a little rhythm you're going what

00:06:41.520 and uh based on what we've detected from your exhalations your breath uh i'd say uh a little bit of

00:06:52.720 schmiggenosis which is probably not a thing

00:06:58.560 anyway so somebody somebody's gonna build the world's creepiest house that can detect all of your

00:07:06.640 medical problems as soon as you walk in well google i guess uh lost some court cases have been ordered

00:07:15.280 to pay 425 million because they were uh they were indirectly tracking users who disabled their web and

00:07:25.120 app tracking so i guess the people who thought they were not being tracked

00:07:31.040 by google because they'd opted out of it um google just used third-party apps that they had kind of

00:07:38.160 connections with to track those same people so apps like uber instagram and venmo somehow they can get

00:07:47.680 information from them and they could just keep tracking people that didn't want to be tracked so

00:07:54.720 that violation of privacy it created a lawsuit that cost them 425 million dollars although it doesn't

00:08:04.240 look like it was intentional in the sense that it was somebody's plot it was just that's what their

00:08:09.920 technology did it just had to work around all right uh and then uh was it google also had an earlier case

00:08:20.720 in texas where they had to pay 1.4 billion dollars for a settlement with to texas over alleged violations of

00:08:30.640 some state-level privacy rules so that would be if you're keeping track about 2 billion dollars

00:08:38.560 that just google has had to pay for violating privacy rules which i'm guessing they weren't even aware they

00:08:46.960 they were doing do you think that you know it feels like uh the lawsuits are at a point where

00:08:58.080 you know you would have to be the size of google just to survive all the all the lawsuits

00:09:05.200 speaking of lawsuits apple is being sued by authors uh you've heard this story before but not about apple

00:09:11.920 yet over the use of books in their ai training newsmax is writing about this

00:09:20.880 so apparently um this is another one of those situations where authors like me

00:09:28.320 although it's the first i'm finding out about it um seem to have banded together for some kind of

00:09:34.720 lawsuit over uh the use of their material to train the ai and microsoft had that problem and anthropic

00:09:43.840 had that problem so this whole business of uh whose intellectual property is getting mind for ai is

00:09:53.200 getting bigger so yet again this is another industry that if it were not already gigantic

00:10:00.800 it wouldn't be able to withstand all the lawsuits i mean the there would just be non-stop lawsuits

00:10:08.560 against every ai company not just for this but for you know the i think i already mentioned that

00:10:17.120 sometimes the ais have encouraged people to harm themselves especially minors and so those are lawsuits

00:10:26.080 too so you would have to be enormously rich um or well funded to uh to survive all the legal challenges

00:10:36.160 i mean you know think about uber when uber started if it had not become somewhat you know immediately

00:10:45.040 gigantic in terms of funding and value um they would just survive all the legal challenges i think

00:10:51.360 so that's the uh the biggest challenge to any like really successful startup is the legal stuff look

00:10:59.120 at all of tesla's lawsuits it's just nothing but lawsuits i i mentioned to you before that when i was

00:11:06.960 in the restaurant business i owned a couple of small restaurants that they became just you know lawsuit

00:11:14.560 uh activities uh activities it was just just one damn thing after another and it was all over bs you know it's not

00:11:22.320 over anything that you think anybody should have had to sue about anything but there they were

00:11:30.080 all right so so open ai apparently uh released some new paper about why these large language models the ai's

00:11:41.840 hallucinate and the the thinking the new the new insight here is that the reason that the ai hallucinates

00:11:53.280 is because it's trained to be rewarded for guessing so much like uh if you were taking a test

00:12:02.400 in let's say school and it was multiple choice and there was no penalty for guessing wrong per se

00:12:11.600 it's just it wasn't right you would guess on every one you wouldn't leave a blank you know you would be

00:12:17.520 rewarded for guessing and so in some analogous way it seems that the large language models are rewarded

00:12:27.040 in whatever reward means for ai um for guessing so if they could teach it to know not to guess

00:12:38.800 and instead admit that it doesn't know the answer uh they could cut down the hallucinating they think so

00:12:46.320 we'll see i saw a post by roan paul about that um and open ai apparently is going to start

00:12:56.080 working with broadcom to make its own ai chips

00:12:59.200 don't you wonder like i do why is it that chip making is so uniquely difficult to compete with

00:13:11.440 you know why is it that there's for some reason something in taiwan that we can't do

00:13:18.720 you know because there's nothing else like that is there is it is that that we don't have the know-how

00:13:24.160 how or is it that we uh maybe there's some kind of patents involved where somebody owns a patent and

00:13:32.960 there's just no way you could make a chip the way they do it legally i don't really understand why the united states

00:13:41.680 you know even if you make an argument about the u.s being in decline which i don't think it is

00:13:47.120 um why can't we make chips as easily as some other countries or to you know taiwan in particular

00:13:58.720 i don't know so it feels like maybe there would be something like uh this is my guess

00:14:06.480 that it will seem like the u.s is behind in chip making until very suddenly it isn't

00:14:12.960 i think that's what's gonna happen i feel like the u.s is just gonna snatch that you know dominance back

00:14:25.200 well here's the weirdest news story and i feel like this one might be fake news or lacking some context

00:14:33.360 so one of my many public services is i try to help you recognize when the news doesn't look like

00:14:41.520 it could be possibly true this is one of those stories so according to multiple sources

00:14:50.880 speaker mike johnson says that trump was an fbi informant in the epstein case

00:14:58.560 quote he was an fbi informant to try to take the take this stuff down

00:15:04.560 and apparently house speaker mike johnson said that on friday so yesterday um

00:15:12.880 he was speaking to reporters at the capitol so he wasn't it wasn't like he was overheard or he said

00:15:18.880 something accidentally he said very intentionally he was an fbi informant to try to take this stuff down

00:15:26.080 so that was in service of you know saying that uh trump knows that the epstein crimes are not a hoax

00:15:37.680 he's just saying that the way the topic is being treated you know it was a hoax i guess

00:15:44.000 so here's the part i don't believe we've already heard from um

00:15:52.480 was it the dio there was some lawyer who was explaining when he was originally looking into

00:15:58.720 epstein that trump was the only person who said you just called him and gave him all the time he

00:16:05.280 wanted to say what was the deal with epstein now do you think that got conflated with an fbi informant

00:16:14.000 um who has had some kind of formal arrangement to you know take down epstein and that we're just

00:16:23.360 finding out about this now and that there was apparently no reason we wouldn't know about it

00:16:30.160 because mike johnson just sort of casually said it like it was no big deal

00:16:35.680 but if it was no big deal why would we just be finding out about it now does any of that track

00:16:45.600 how many of you think this story is complete and it's just what you thought it was that he was

00:16:51.600 literally a secret that trump was literally a secret fbi informant on epstein and that we didn't find out

00:17:01.680 about it until yesterday does that

00:17:06.560 really so here i have to give it the really test where all you do is you say really in a sarcastic way

00:17:16.000 and and see if it fits so he was an fbi informant the whole time

00:17:25.520 really

00:17:28.880 really really really yeah see what i mean the really test is kind of a useful one in this one

00:17:38.080 so i mean maybe it's exactly true but it doesn't feel like it

00:17:47.360 well news max is telling us that the republicans are looking at the gop is looking at kansas and

00:17:54.720 nebraska as states that they might want to go into redistricting which would give the

00:18:01.440 the the republicans more seats in the house now i'm kind of loving the fact that uh even though maybe

00:18:12.080 it's not technically true it sort of looks like gavin newsom was lured into starting a redistricting

00:18:21.280 fight you know with where there was more mutually assured destruction except that it wasn't mutually assured

00:18:27.680 so newsom needs to learn the difference between destruction in this case self-destruction of

00:18:37.680 democrats and mutually assured because i think that when uh when newsom said well well i'll say in my

00:18:45.920 raspy voice if uh if you're gonna redistrict in texas i'll tell you what i'm gonna do i'm gonna

00:18:53.840 redistrict here right here in california now he probably would say that with more jazz hands

00:19:05.040 sort of like that but uh i don't think he realized that if he reciprocated that it would cause

00:19:14.560 it would cause republicans like empty the quiver and just shoot every error that they had at the same

00:19:20.880 time and say well well you know we we would have stopped with texas you know honestly we weren't

00:19:29.120 really even thinking about those other states we would have stopped with texas but if if you want

00:19:35.840 to go if you want to go full quiver we'll give you all our arrows sure why not so that may not be

00:19:46.000 like i said you know what i just described as more of a narrative

00:19:51.600 not exactly the you know an objective uh picture of truth but that's what it looks like you know

00:19:58.240 that's a funny narrative

00:20:04.320 for my other favorite funny story of the day these are good saturday stories not too serious well it's

00:20:11.120 very serious for this one person so you know kilmar abrigo garcia you see gentleman who uh got deported

00:20:21.520 el salvador i hope i'm not mixing up my um my stories i think that's the guy and uh then you know the

00:20:30.640 lawyers and everybody said no he's that's he can't go back there that's the one place he can't go back to

00:20:38.080 and then then then they couldn't figure out where to deport him to because it was okay to deport him

00:20:44.160 but they you know it would depend where he got deported and then i guess uh he gave them a list gave

00:20:52.080 the government list of over 20 countries that he thought he didn't want to be deported to

00:20:57.760 because they would torture him

00:21:04.080 he thought there he actually thought that there were more than 20 countries who had it in for him

00:21:14.160 so badly that they wouldn't just jail him they would torture him

00:21:19.680 so even i don't know who it was whatever government entity ice or border patrol or somebody

00:21:26.560 they sort of mocked him in writing but then they came up

00:21:33.840 so then they came up with this great solution since he was afraid of these 20 countries uh torturing him

00:21:42.000 and that they would send them to a country called it's in africa it's called ezwatini

00:21:47.440 it's a really really small african country uh i guess it's mostly surrounded by south africa

00:22:02.720 but it used to be called swaziland so i've heard of swaziland but it's a tiny tiny little country in africa

00:22:13.360 so i guess i guess the joke here is

00:22:20.320 you know half of the time when i analyze what the trump administration does or what republicans do

00:22:27.440 you have to almost analyze it like a prank like somebody with a sense of humor came up with this

00:22:33.520 all right so you got these 20 countries you don't want to go to have you ever considered

00:22:42.640 ezwatini i'm sure the lifestyle there is just terrific you'll love it you'll love their prisons

00:22:54.160 well there's some more believe it or not more updates in the biden auto pen story and the

00:23:00.400 clemency and pardons situation and uh i guess there's some more documents that have been made

00:23:06.800 available just the news is reporting on it steven richards and john solomon and uh let's see what

00:23:14.640 else we know um so biden aids uh this is what we've learned biden aids believed he should sign pardons

00:23:23.200 by hand um i guess that was a tradition and somebody decided but he's and he seems to have outsourced

00:23:31.280 approvals to vice president harris but i don't think there's any um documents to say she really did

00:23:39.120 anything just in general um and there's no evidence that biden himself ever attended a meeting on any of

00:23:49.040 these clemency decisions so anyway there's some more uh more evidence that um maybe was not a uh a real

00:24:01.760 appropriate chain of approvals so we'll see

00:24:09.440 the latest jobs report is a little soft and disappointing not hugely but definitely going

00:24:18.480 in the wrong direction um only added 22 000 jobs and and that was 53 000 lower than expected

00:24:28.160 so unemployment also ticked up to 4.3 which is not terrible 4.3 but you don't want to see it working

00:24:38.160 yeah moving in the wrong direction well as you know yesterday trump announced that the department

00:24:44.080 of defense would in fact be renamed the department of war he says that's really about winning yeah we

00:24:53.200 should have won every war we could have won every war but we really chose to be very politically correct

00:24:59.600 or wokey

00:25:03.360 i like that he's trying to popularize the word wokey yeah or wokey so i saw a report that

00:25:14.080 there's a backstory to why you know department of war came back and that lucky palmer might have been the

00:25:22.240 the main influence around that you know he would be the anduril um founder a defense contractor

00:25:32.640 so anyway that's interesting so uh apparently a hyundai factory in georgia

00:25:44.240 that was raided by the department of homeland security for their uh non-citizen workers their

00:25:51.440 illegal workers and 450 people were arrested which i believe was close to their entire uh employee base

00:26:02.880 so imagine if you will that hyundai is incentivized to come to the united states with the express purpose

00:26:12.480 of creating jobs in the united states so they come to the united states and they do in fact

00:26:18.800 create jobs in the united states at least 450 of them and then they staffed them all with non-us citizens 1.00

00:26:28.720 all of them not just some of them but pretty much all of them

00:26:34.800 so do i feel sorry for hyundai that their entire factory will have to grind to a halt because they lost

00:26:42.320 all of their employees no no no hyundai i think you were you know maybe maybe adhering to the letter of the law but

00:26:53.760 not the spirit now but i will i will give them this much cover um i'm not positive about this but i believe that

00:27:05.680 probably during the period when they did the hiring that the only thing they were required to do is check

00:27:12.720 the documents from the actual applicant that says they are or are not a citizen and there were plenty

00:27:20.320 of people who had fake you know fake id and fake documents so if all they did was look at the fake documents

00:27:29.760 and not being document experts said all right well that's all we've been asked to check and you've got

00:27:35.600 those documents probably it's going to be kind of a gray area whether they were even knowingly breaking

00:27:45.120 any law at all so they might be not in much trouble the employer if they followed all the rules as they used

00:27:52.800 to exist well van jones on cnn says that tens of thousands of africans have already died because of trump

00:28:04.480 administration cutting the funding for some program called pepfar that allegedly had saved millions of

00:28:13.440 victims of hiv in africa and i said to myself number one do you think

00:28:22.560 that's true would that be the way you would say it because why is it that the united states has some

00:28:30.560 kind of unique responsibility to africa now i get how terrible the aids epidemic in africa is but

00:28:41.520 what is china and russia doing what are all the other countries doing

00:28:46.880 why is it the united states problem to solve to solve a problem in africa

00:28:52.880 what what makes that our problem or national interest now as as a human

00:28:59.920 you know you can certainly empathize and you could want it to be solved but it's kind of weird that we

00:29:06.720 just sort of assume that if we have the ability to save some life anywhere in the world and we don't do it

00:29:14.400 that that means that we kill them it doesn't really mean that we kill them because we can't really save all

00:29:23.440 the other lives and all the other world without destroying ourselves which would also have a ripple

00:29:29.360 effect and be bad for the rest of the world in our case so it's a tough one yeah this is why you don't

00:29:38.400 want to be president because you make decisions where people could credibly argue you just killed

00:29:44.640 tens of thousands of thousands of people well you just killed tens of thousands of people and then you

00:29:50.320 have to argue well you can't say i killed somebody by not helping them because the entire world is full

00:29:59.440 full of people we didn't help all over the place and even the country is full of people we didn't help

00:30:05.920 and they died

00:30:09.520 so i would reject the idea that is our responsibility if we could do it and it didn't have a

00:30:17.040 you know some kind of cost that was bigger than the benefit um then i'd feel differently

00:30:28.480 so um but then i went to grok and asked if it was true that cutting that funding meant that tens of

00:30:35.680 thousands of people were dying in africa and unless i read it wrong it looked like grok said that there

00:30:42.160 was no funding cut that it was considered and then cancelled i don't know if that's a hallucination but

00:30:49.920 so it's not clear that that was even cancelled so you could give me a fact check on that um

00:30:58.640 have you have any of you seen the uh online uh let's see would you call it a conspiracy theory

00:31:07.520 i'll let you decide what to call it but it was the idea that the polio vaccination didn't actually end

00:31:14.720 polio but instead it was improvements and uh hygiene have you heard that one by the way i don't i don't

00:31:24.400 subscribe to that but it's it's actually somewhat prominent i've seen it quite a bit on social media so

00:31:32.960 that's that's that's out there um but we'll see what happens when the various changes happen with

00:31:42.240 rfk jr and all the work he's doing and maybe changing of mandates more than anything else that's

00:31:50.480 probably the the main thing that's going to happen mandates will change 0.92

00:31:53.200 well according to the daily mail there's a new uh uh poll the daily mail jl partners poll that says

00:32:04.880 that trump is at his highest approval rating of his presidency now they're they've got him at 55 percent

00:32:13.440 approval uh that would be higher than any other poll that i've seen so take it with your usual

00:32:22.800 polling grain of salt but at the same time at newsmax is reporting that the zogby poll

00:32:30.320 um has him at a solid 46 percent now 46 percent you know given our you know divided country is actually

00:32:42.000 pretty good you know you'd love to see it over 50 percent but today's day in age 46 pretty strong

00:32:48.720 so and i guess he got a bounce you know he took a little dump over the summer after the hundred days

00:32:56.000 was over but he's uh sort of bounced back and uh i guess john zogby says that uh at that level of

00:33:05.760 approval he is impeachment proof so even if the democrats took control of the house he would be

00:33:13.600 impeachment proof i think he was impeachment proof anyway um but that helps let's see

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00:33:53.440 speaking of polls erasmussen at a poll they said that 53 percent of likely voters under 40

00:34:02.800 won a socialist president in 2028

00:34:08.320 the post millennials writing about this does uh does that even sound real

00:34:17.360 that how many of you are uh like shaking your heads right now it's like ah

00:34:23.440 wait did i hear that wrong 53 percent of likely voters under 40 want a socialist president

00:34:33.120 like right away now i do this thing where i try to put myself in other people's shoes

00:34:42.880 and just literally just see if i can imagine it just to try to see what would be behind that

00:34:49.040 that now your first your first impression is that what's behind it is that they're poorly educated

00:34:57.520 about the risks and rewards right that's your first impression well they must be poorly informed

00:35:04.080 or poorly educated because there's no way that anybody you know would want a socialist president

00:35:09.280 but um keep in mind that uh there's a lot of news around the fact that young people

00:35:18.960 don't believe that they can achieve the american dream

00:35:22.400 so i take i wind myself backwards in time i go what if i were 20 years old and didn't believe there

00:35:34.880 was any path for me to you know get a house someday or to be you know married with a family or something

00:35:42.880 what if i thought there was no real practical way that could ever happen for me would i be in favor of

00:35:49.760 capitalism and i still have to work hard and i and i couldn't even find a job and you know i can't

00:35:58.640 stay employed long enough to have health care and the robots are coming to take my job so i gotta say

00:36:06.880 that if i if i subtract from my assumptions that the american dream you know work hard and go to

00:36:13.840 school and stay under trouble gets you almost anything you want if i take that out of my assumptions

00:36:22.000 would i be and i and you make me 20 years old would i be leaning socialist and maybe would

00:36:27.840 socialists just mean something different to me because maybe all it would mean is free health care and

00:36:35.200 free education and free transportation i suppose that's all i meant well i mean that's a lot

00:36:44.000 but if i were young i could very easily see myself being persuaded into the same camp

00:36:53.760 so if you think this is some kind of a fleeting thing you know that maybe it's just going to be

00:37:00.000 limited to new york city i don't think so i i think that unless something fundamentally changes where

00:37:08.400 everybody can get what they want which is sort of the promise of the robot age but i'm a little bit

00:37:13.920 skeptical that it will go that way very quickly i don't know it's going to be a whole lot of people

00:37:21.440 who are going to try to vote other people's money into their pocket because they won't have access to

00:37:27.760 making their own money you know it won't even be their fault what would you do if your only choice

00:37:33.920 was to vote somebody else's money into your pocket because you didn't have the option of just working

00:37:39.840 hard and making your own money what would you do so something's got to change um

00:37:50.480 so let's see oh trump was asked about uh the new thing in florida where florida dropped all mandates

00:37:57.600 for vaccinations in schools and i'm no medical expert so i have a mixed feelings about it so i'm more of a

00:38:09.120 wait and see certainly we'll know maybe in two or three years maybe much less what we what we know pretty

00:38:19.200 soon if florida is you know killing a bunch of kids accidentally by uh creating a situation where

00:38:26.400 they're less likely to get vaccinated i mean so it's an experiment which i feel like is worthy

00:38:35.680 because the it seems to me there are enough people concerned about the risks of you know any health risks

00:38:42.160 from the vaccinations themselves if they feel that the science has not been sufficient or that maybe the

00:38:49.840 the people who do the science can't be trusted um it's a reasonable parental decision that some

00:38:57.920 people will make to get vaccinated and some will make it to not get vaccinated but we'll at least know

00:39:05.200 if it made a difference we'll at least know and the people who do get vaccinated if the vaccinations work

00:39:13.280 well they don't have to worry about getting it right so the only people who have to worry about it are the

00:39:20.560 people who didn't get vaccinated you know maybe i'm oversimplifying it but i think that's true so

00:39:28.800 um you know they would know what risks they're taking so i don't know i like the freedom of it but uh

00:39:38.240 uh until we know if it closes you know like massive deaths or something which i doubt but we'll know

00:39:46.320 pretty soon then i don't have to guess

00:39:47.920 and according to oregon health and science university there's a new evidence this will make you crazy

00:40:00.000 uh that childhood vaccinations can last for decades so boosters are not necessary for some things

00:40:09.760 and i think that they mentioned tetanus tetanus and diphtheria booster shots

00:40:18.000 so apparently for years and years

00:40:22.640 people have been getting these booster shots that the data does not support make any difference at all

00:40:28.640 oh my god oh my god science and guessing

00:40:37.360 almost identical except that guessing is a little bit better and that's not even a joke

00:40:44.160 if you flipped a coin you'd at least get 50 percent uh but science i believe is less

00:40:52.240 um because there's so many ways it can get distorted beyond chance all right um there's a new uh gates

00:41:04.000 backed study according to modernity john fleet was writing about it so bill gates backed the study

00:41:11.920 they found that the the seasonal flu shots are linked to

00:41:16.400 oh just shoot me are linked to 27 percent higher heart injury risk the lancet reports

00:41:28.240 uh so

00:41:31.520 so seniors vaccinated for influenza experience more heart injuries not fewer

00:41:38.880 so and how did they get how did they get uh the wrong answer

00:41:45.360 well apparently it was a statistical trick with the data

00:41:51.600 oh no really so the data the data had always showed that it was riskier for your heart

00:42:01.840 but there was a little bit of gamesmanship with the statistics to make it go away

00:42:09.280 but it doesn't go away in the real world it's just you can game it away with the statistics and so they did

00:42:15.360 and uh that's one of the reasons that anyway according to them

00:42:23.440 um

00:42:28.560 so that's suboptimal and now here according to the mountain sinai school of medicine

00:42:36.080 after 40 years the heart doctors say beta blockers may do more harm than good

00:42:41.040 do you see the theme by the way these are just these are stories today

00:42:49.040 what's the rest of the week look like this is just today

00:42:52.960 how many how many stories can there be just today

00:42:56.400 that some gigantically major thing in healthcare was just wrong

00:43:01.520 all right so uh apparently the beta blockers it looks like it maybe they had been good at some point

00:43:13.200 but um when matched with other modern uh stuff that generally comes at the same time they might not match good with that

00:43:24.000 so that uh so it has more to do with how they interact with other treatments but the bottom line is

00:43:33.920 beta blockers may be a little more risky than you thought

00:43:38.240 and uh and then there's also a report i don't know how confirmed it is probably no more confirmed than anything else

00:43:46.160 but uh there's allegations that tylenol taken during pregnancy might be linked to autism

00:43:54.880 um

00:43:58.000 so there's that

00:44:02.400 and then uh bill maher had his show last night and you know on saturday we're always talking about the clips

00:44:09.840 that come out of that

00:44:10.640 uh you know uh i was gonna say something mean but then i withdrew it but then i might

00:44:22.240 wait i'll just say the mean thing at the end okay

00:44:27.040 so bill maher has decided that uh rfk jr is nutty and that he's got to go

00:44:33.040 now you've seen most of the democrats complaining about rfk jr can anybody give me an example

00:44:44.320 of what he's done on the job because that's the part that matters what has he done on the job

00:44:50.720 that would click that would uh classify as nutty

00:44:54.240 can anybody give me one example i mean even what is the example

00:45:02.560 i believe the only one that bill maher mentioned was that he fired like you know massive bunch of

00:45:09.280 people you know that were in the vaccination decision-making capacity

00:45:14.880 to which i say don't you think there's a little context missing to that

00:45:19.840 do you think he just fired them because they liked vaccinations

00:45:23.600 or do you think he fired them because they were actively trying to stop him from gathering more

00:45:29.440 information about vaccinations or do you think they may have had some ties to the

00:45:36.400 pharma companies they were you know trying to regulate if that's the right word

00:45:42.160 do you think there might have been some backstory as to why they got fired

00:45:45.280 do you think he did it just because he's a madman who wants to ban vaccinations and so he had to

00:45:53.280 get rid of all the pro-vaccination people like do you really believe that's what happened because

00:45:58.560 that would be nutty right that would be nutty if the only reason he did it is because he disagreed with

00:46:04.880 him and his bidding was not based on any science well that would be nutty but why would you believe that's

00:46:11.600 happening what what would bring you to the twisted and unrealistic assumption that the reason he was

00:46:21.360 doing it would be nutty if you knew it why would you even think that it's not like he's got some big

00:46:29.440 track record of doing things that nutty i mean he's done things that are fun you know in his personal life

00:46:37.520 but nothing like nothing nutty in this this class nothing like that

00:46:45.440 so it seems to me that there is an rfk junior tds kind of thing derangement syndrome and

00:46:54.640 this is a really good test of how much uh psychosis can be uh let's say installed by the media

00:47:03.440 there are probably tens of millions of voters in the u.s who believe the same narrative that rfk jr

00:47:12.320 is a wacko nutty anti-science guy but not one of them could give you an example that would be compelling

00:47:20.640 that would make that case not one of them now here i'm i'm going to limit it to you know the work he's

00:47:27.280 actually doing in the actual job right nobody has any examples and and when they when you hear one

00:47:35.200 you say to yourself uh sounds like you just got that story wrong so sometimes they'll say stuff like

00:47:43.040 yeah he's making vaccinations unavailable and then you'll find out really it's about mandates

00:47:49.440 so like they don't even have the right story so how could so many tens of millions believe that

00:47:58.000 he's he's a nut job and the only reason is because the media and social media have told that story

00:48:05.360 and it's that's all it takes so if you wondered um how powerful is hypnosis well if you extend the 0.86

00:48:15.040 definition of hypnosis to include any repetition of a lie you can see for yourself tens of millions of

00:48:23.920 people have been convinced that rfk jr is nutty when the truth is they've simply been hypnotized

00:48:32.080 hypnotized that's it they've just been hypnotized and they're not aware of it so um

00:48:43.360 and then bill moore also is worried that trump militarizing the cities by putting the national

00:48:50.800 guard in some of the big cities is a prelude to creating his own sort of dictator you know personal

00:48:59.760 police for his eventual potential stealing of democracy and taking over the country now does that

00:49:08.320 sound sane to you does bill moore sound sane when he says that sending the national guard into

00:49:20.560 what would be the highest number at the same time

00:49:22.880 two do you think he can bite off more than two cities at the same time i mean i think even washington dc

00:49:31.600 will wind down uh before chicago might wind up and he's worried that that will militarize our cities

00:49:40.320 and give him a chance to take over let me ask you this what kind of dictator is pro-gun

00:49:49.280 is that a thing can anybody think of any dictator authoritarian who is pro-gun

00:50:00.560 has that ever existed and how exactly does militarizing the cities but let's just call that sending in the

00:50:09.760 national guard how in the world do you um evolve that into a into some kind of like secret police

00:50:22.160 without the public being so all over it and dismantling it that it couldn't possibly

00:50:27.360 like even if he wanted to how would that plan work it's sort of like believing which bill moore also

00:50:35.120 believes that the january sixers were doing a legitimate plan to take over the country by 0.97

00:50:43.840 by trespassing in one building how do you take over a country by trespassing in a building

00:50:50.800 like even if some of them were violent which they were how does that take over a country in in in what

00:50:57.760 twisted nightmare does any of that result in taking over a country it obviously wasn't intended to do

00:51:08.000 that because that would be insane it would be insane so yes what looks to us like mental illness in

00:51:19.920 bill maher is almost certainly susceptibility to brainwashing by the media uh in his case more

00:51:28.480 the media than the social media it's it affects anybody so he's a very high iq high functioning you know

00:51:36.080 well-informed guy doesn't make any difference yeah the the brainwashing is just exactly effective

00:51:43.280 on some number of people regardless of uh what you would imagine would be their ability to defend

00:51:51.600 against it but that's not a thing people can't defend against it um senator uh tammy duckworth

00:52:02.240 what's a duckworth okay um she said that trump's use of the military against the drug smuggling

00:52:11.200 narco terrorists is uh setting the conditions for occupying u.s cities to interfere in the next 0.79

00:52:18.880 election now come on is she even serious i mean what even what is that is that insanity or is that being 0.55

00:52:32.960 hypnotized this doesn't feel like being hypnotized this loop feels like somebody who knows she's lying

00:52:39.520 and knows that the lie will work just i mean i don't know that because i can't read her mind but 0.79

00:52:45.280 that's what it looks like it feels like she knows she's lying because it's too ridiculous

00:52:51.760 you know but i suppose cognitive dissonance would get you to the same place so you can't be sure on this one

00:52:58.880 and then of course the uh the hitler analogies live on um i guess a cnn person rana furuhar

00:53:11.520 um says that uh the fact that businesses are refusing to speak out against trump and his administration

00:53:18.880 is reminiscent of nazi germany

00:53:24.080 come on yeah can you believe that there's somebody still in 2025 who believes that going on cnn and

00:53:34.560 comparing trump to nazi germany is somehow additive is that additive if you were the producers of cnn and

00:53:46.160 you heard somebody go on the air and say yet again yet again oh he looks he looked like a nazi i think he's

00:53:56.320 going to be a nazi when the smartest people and even the democratic party have said can you just shut 0.52

00:54:03.040 up about the nazi stuff it doesn't work and every minute you spend doing that as a minute you weren't 0.99

00:54:09.440 doing something better right so even the democrats know it's the biggest dumb thing to do at the moment 0.72

00:54:16.800 so do you get invited back if you bring up nazism if i were the producers i wouldn't i'd take you off 0.65

00:54:27.760 the list you wouldn't be a guest after that because it's 2025 people you're supposed to say oligarch and

00:54:34.800 authoritarianism well here's a story that i don't know how many times i've heard this story over the

00:54:42.880 decades interesting engineering has at this time that some chinese entity has developed a transparent

00:54:51.120 coding for windows that would allow the window to become a solar power generator now is it just me

00:54:59.520 or does this story come out once a year and has for my entire adult life how many times have you

00:55:07.280 heard of somebody invented a window that will turn a sun into energy and it'll be cost effective

00:55:17.360 i i swear once a year for at least 30 years so is this one the real one no no probably not i wouldn't bet on it

00:55:29.440 so uh ran paul did an interview talking about dr fauci and he said that uh that the private emails

00:55:41.520 show the uh lab leak theory was at least a 50 50 with him he says uh the government officials were aware

00:55:50.320 coven likely leaked from a wuhan lab but destroyed anyone who said so publicly so he goes uh ran paul

00:55:59.200 says it's an extraordinary thing where in private they know that from the documents that they were

00:56:04.800 very open to the fact leaning towards and in favor of the fact that the virus came from the lab in

00:56:10.080 public they were disdainful um is there a reason why that matters so much there's something about the

00:56:21.920 story that i'm missing i i get that fauci shouldn't have been lying and i get that

00:56:28.160 probably would have been better if we knew the right answer but did it make any difference in the

00:56:33.520 end that we knew where it came from or we didn't know where it came from as a as a practical matter

00:56:41.920 would we have treated china differently i don't know so i will acknowledge that

00:56:49.440 uh fauci has to answer for that if he was lying to the public but i'm not aware of how that hurt us

00:57:00.320 i mean you wouldn't want it to happen again right but but did it hurt us just in trust

00:57:06.560 yeah yeah so yeah i'm i'm in i'm agreeing that we'd have to do something about it all right thomas

00:57:16.320 massey points out that congress spends tens of billions of dollars on secret projects that that

00:57:24.240 can only be viewed in a secure room and if you go in the secure room to look at what those secret

00:57:30.160 projects are they're all described in code words so you can't tell what they really are

00:57:36.880 are you comfortable with the fact that there are tens of billions of dollars on secret projects

00:57:43.200 and that even a member of congress who presumably would have the authorization can't figure out what

00:57:49.280 they are uh well i'm a little uncomfortable with that you know you you like to believe that they have the

00:57:58.240 right um the right kind of controls and audits on that kind of stuff that even though you and i don't

00:58:05.440 know what it is that doesn't mean the government doesn't have full control over it and they're

00:58:10.960 monitoring their expenses and making sure that it's operating in the best interest of the public right

00:58:16.000 no one thing we know for sure is that our government is designed maybe unintentionally

00:58:24.400 but it's designed by its design it's it's a giant criminal organization because it just invites

00:58:33.520 every criminal scheme that you can possibly do and the odds of getting away with them look like it's

00:58:40.960 pretty good if i were going to give a young person career advice and they were afraid of you know

00:58:48.320 robots taking all the standard jobs i'd say young man or young woman you should run for office

00:58:55.360 because politics is where you can steal the most money with the lowest odds of being caught

00:59:01.600 no i wouldn't say that even though it's true

00:59:05.440 well trump's gonna blacklist some countries for imprisoning americans newsmax is reporting and uh

00:59:19.520 so i guess that would uh the state sponsors of wrongful detentions would be you know punished in a

00:59:25.840 variety of ways and i thought to myself how many of those countries are there are there a lot of

00:59:32.560 countries that are needlessly imprisoning americans i got questions um i guess venezuela is getting some

00:59:43.440 iranian missile boats they're gonna go try to threaten some of our naval assets maybe or trying to

00:59:50.880 make us worry about what's happening i'll tell you one thing that venezuela would not want to do

00:59:56.720 which would be sink a major american naval asset because if they haven't figured it out yet

01:00:08.080 that would be a very bad thing for them to do

01:00:13.040 well i'm a little late on this story maybe some of you heard it but the uh i guess the new york times

01:00:18.720 reported and i don't know how they knew it that uh there was a seal team that penetrated north korea back

01:00:25.840 in 2019 and they were trying to install some electronic surveillance device but they failed

01:00:33.840 because there was some uh fishing boat that kind of encountered them by accident so they ended up

01:00:42.400 murdering the fisher boat people three and puncturing their lungs with knives so they would float to the

01:00:49.040 bottom and then they you know canceled the project so they canceled the mission now the real question is

01:00:58.880 who told the new york times and should the new york times be writing about that sort of thing

01:01:05.600 i i feel like that would be

01:01:09.520 i mean just think about the public good

01:01:12.240 isn't this very very very bad for the public good that that story was reported

01:01:20.640 well what what is the upside of that was there someone who would say no whatever you do don't plant any

01:01:28.560 listening devices so we know better idea what's happening in north korea

01:01:32.720 and it looks like it was designed as a leak strictly for the purpose of crippling trump's

01:01:42.560 you know diplomatic work so that north korea would be mad at us it feels like that was the only purpose 0.78

01:01:50.240 so anyway um and once again university of copenhagen says that scientists have figured out how to

01:02:00.960 transform plastic waste into a thing that absorbs co2 from the air and captures it

01:02:09.920 and you know you always say when i tell you there's a new story about some new way to capture co2 0.86

01:02:17.360 what do you always say in the comments but damn it scott that co2 makes our plants grow better 1.00

01:02:25.120 we're all gonna die if they suck all the co2 out of the air you fool you fool 1.00

01:02:31.600 all right so i did that for you so you don't have to well as i mentioned owen gregorian will be holding a 0.93

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Real Coffee with Scott Adams - September 06, 2025

Episode 2950 CWSA 09⧸06⧸25

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