Coffee with Scott Adams and a special guest, Owen Gregorian, discuss the death of Charlie Kirk and the impact it may have had on the protests in London. Plus, a look at the benefits of having a cat in your lap.
00:00:45.420But if you'd like to take a chance on elevating your experience up to levels that nobody can even understand with their tiny, shiny human brains, all you need for that is a cup or mug or a glass or a tank or a chalice or a stein, a canteen jug or flask, a vessel of any kind.
00:07:59.860So imagine if you will, this becomes more of a normal thing.
00:08:06.060Can you imagine traveling to places that you would have never traveled before, but being able to understand everybody?
00:08:14.720Oh, the problem is, if you meet some villager in a remote place, they're not going to have the translator.
00:08:21.040So you would understand them, but they would have no idea what you're saying.
00:08:26.120Maybe you could use another app for that.
00:08:27.920But as I've said before, I have a hypothesis that the reason that the U.S., Russia, and China are sort of these frenemy rivals, maybe more rivals than frenemy, I feel like it might be because of language.
00:08:45.920I'm not positive, I wouldn't bet my life on it, but doesn't it seem to you that whenever we're dealing with a country that speaks perfect English, even if it's not normally an English-speaking country, that whenever the leader is gifted in English, we get along with them.
00:09:53.460But if the only contact you have is through an interpreter, I feel like that's like a little wall that allows you to say, all right, I'm over here.
00:10:02.500My enemy is over there on the other side of that invisible wall.
00:12:19.400If I could just speak personally, I'm really sure that if I had a regular day job with a regular boss, that I wouldn't say 75% of the things I say online.
00:12:35.460There's no way I would say the things honestly that I say now.
00:12:40.140And still, even though I didn't have a boss, per se, I got canceled worldwide, for one of my opinions, or at least the way I stated it.
00:12:53.460It wasn't even because of the opinion.
00:12:55.180Nobody disagreed with my opinion, but I got canceled anyway.
00:12:58.040Well, President Trump has indicated that he's looking into going after George Soros, figuring out how his money is flowing through and possibly getting to violent protests and other bad distortions in our country.
00:13:17.000And he thinks that there might be a RICO case, because Soros would be part of a larger organized group of people doing things that potentially could be illegal.
00:13:26.820Don't know exactly what would be in that category of illegal, but Trump does.
00:13:33.600And he does include the younger Soros.
00:13:36.780So he's not just saying George, he's saying Alexander as well.
00:13:42.520And my question is, and I'm sure Mike Cernovich would be asking the same question, why only one billionaire?
00:13:49.760It seems obvious to me that there are about something like half a dozen billionaires who are running the show, because money drives everything.
00:14:01.000Why would you only look into one of them?
00:14:04.200It feels like whatever they're doing, they're all doing it.
00:14:07.200It seems like they're playing the same game.
00:14:08.980So I would say you want to maybe expand that a little bit.
00:14:13.980Find out where the money is coming from, because it all looks dirty and unethical to me.
00:14:19.860We'll talk about the Charlie Kirk situation, of course.
00:14:31.580So apparently Republicans, some Republicans, dozens of them, are trying to get congressional leaders to investigate what they call a sustained breakdown of law and order by anti-American ideology across the country.
00:14:50.180So Chip Roy is organizing this, I think.
00:14:53.640And so they've signed an open letter calling for the House leaders to form some committee to look into it because of the numerous attacks.
00:15:03.440But they also, so this is related to the story about RICO and Soros, but they also say they want to follow the money and uncover the force behind the NGOs, donors, media, public officials, and all entities.
00:15:17.560Driving what they call a coordinated attack.
00:15:21.240Now, the real question will be the degree of coordination.
00:15:26.240Because was it, who is the seven words you can't, George Carlin.
00:15:34.760George Carlin used to explain that you don't need to be, you don't have to have a meeting with notes and everybody says out loud, oh, I agree with you.
00:18:03.820I mean, even if you looked at the geniuses that were part of the PayPal original team, you know, the Elon Musk, the David Sachs, Reid Hoffman, you've got Reid Hoffman on the far left and funding things, and you've got Elon and Sachs on the right.
00:18:23.000They're all geniuses, but they're not immune from being influenced by something in the environment like that.
00:18:32.260There's just no protection whatsoever.
00:18:35.260That's my official word as a trained hypnotist, because hypnotists learn that the smarter you are, the easier it is to hypnotize you.
00:18:49.340Hypnotists learn in school, we're actually taught that, that the smarter and more confident the subject is, the easier it is to hypnotize them.
00:19:20.720So, as far as we know, but I think it's still a little fog of war, the perpetrator, the shooter, was a far left kind of guy.
00:19:36.160You might be seeing online some rumors that I think are unsubstantiated, that he was actually further right than Charlie Kirk.
00:19:47.460I believe that's all unsubstantiated stuff, but there's enough to it that I would say, hmm, you better wait and find out more about this guy, because it's not impossible.
00:20:02.520You know, just almost anything that you're sure you know about this story might be wrong.
00:20:08.100So, you know, we're at that point in the story where really there could be really basic fundamental things that we find out are just not true.
00:20:19.060So, as far as we can tell, he was a far left guy, but maybe not.
00:21:31.360You know, we always joke about the Democrats projecting, like if they murder you, they will accuse you of murder as they're stabbing you, right?
00:21:45.780How many times have we seen that example?
00:22:21.400It's possible because of cognitive dissonance.
00:22:25.060So, cognitive dissonance won't allow you to form an opinion of yourself that's too negative if you have a healthy ego, if you're not mentally ill.
00:22:37.180So, if you're perfectly normal, your brain is working the way it should, it will malfunction when you're presented with a situation where you have obviously done something stupid or evil.
00:22:51.060And you don't think you're stupid and you don't think you're evil.
00:22:55.420That's what triggers cognitive dissonance when there's a disconnect between what you're doing or experiencing and what you believe to be true.
00:23:05.800And then your brain spontaneously comes up with a story that usually sounds ridiculous to observers.
00:23:27.920Are they in a situation where it's becoming somewhat obvious that they're the bad guys and that they might be stupid and they might be evil?
00:23:38.760Would you agree that that's sort of becoming obvious?
00:23:45.640Now, what would smart people with normal brains, you don't need any mental illness, just a normal brain, what would they do in that situation?
00:23:54.860Well, they would hallucinate that the real problem is something else so that they're off the hook.
00:24:01.120And so, they snapped the grid on Trump.
00:24:07.700It's like, why do you have a bunion on your toe?
00:24:18.020So, you've got this little Trump reflex that they've developed because everything's Trump's fault.
00:24:23.100But the tell, the way you can tell it's cognitive dissonance as opposed to just a different opinion, is that the people who are not experiencing the cognitive dissonance look at it and they say,
00:25:08.060First, when they say that the reason that that guy killed Charlie Kirk is because of Trump's rhetoric, does that sound, well, maybe that could be true?
00:25:36.260How about the part where he said, I'm going to reduce crime for all you poor people, especially poor black people living in D.C. and now Memphis?
00:25:55.880So, and then, of course, we're all trying to keep score.
00:26:02.120And the people on the right are positive that the political violence is almost, but not completely, limited to the left, right?
00:26:12.460How many of you believe that to be true?
00:26:15.000That the political violence is largely, not 100%, but largely on the left?
00:26:21.840Well, I'm not even sure yet, because these stories are all a little, you know, the various stories all have a little wrinkle to them.
00:26:33.020For example, the guy who tried to kill Governor Shapiro in Pennsylvania, he tried to burn his house down and probably wanted to kill his family.
00:26:42.980And that was somebody who was mad about him being pro-Israel or anti-Israel, being maybe too pro-Israel.
00:28:10.460But we don't really have a, if anybody's done it yet, I'd like to see it, but a really good accounting of, you know, how much of this is from the left versus the right.
00:28:21.640It seems to me, let me ask you this question.
00:28:25.100I asked my locals' subscribers earlier, but I'm going to put it out to the rest of you.
00:28:30.760Who is the first person in sort of the political talking head world, who is the first person you ever heard say,
00:28:42.180if the Democrats keep talking about Hitler and fascists, that it's going to turn violent?
00:28:48.780Who's the first person who told you that's going to happen?
00:28:56.740And that would be informed of my background in hypnosis.
00:29:01.480If the words start to converge in a certain way, the words cause action.
00:29:09.000You know, words are thoughts, and thoughts become action.
00:29:13.840So, and then Greg Goffeld was saying it on The Five and on his show, Goffeld, and he has the bigger platform, so he's the one who made it a common thought.
00:29:29.520But that was the only thing we're arguing about.
00:29:33.580It's the number one issue in the country, is that that rhetoric is causing violence.
00:29:40.580Now, do you remember when I told you that when Trump, back in 2015, I predicted that Trump would change more than politics?
00:29:49.240That he would change our very view of reality?
00:29:52.000Obviously, this is one of those times.
00:29:55.040Once you understand that words are the basis of your brain, you know, we think in words, that if you change the words, you change the thinking.
00:30:06.880That's why people are always arguing, use my definition of the word.
00:32:49.600Let's go shoot some people on Fifth Avenue.
00:32:51.500No, not a single person in the whole world thought that that was a call to violence.
00:32:58.460And listening to Jasmine Crockett, the stupidest person in the Democrat Party, I do think she might be the dumbest person in the entire party.
00:33:07.820But at least Charlemagne de God, who is the host of The Breakfast Club, he admitted on the show where Jasmine was that he has engaged in rhetoric that could be determined as inciting violence against Trump.
00:33:29.620He said, I think we all incite whether we think we do or not.
00:33:32.680And what I mean by that is I've definitely called that regime fascist.
00:33:37.820And he said, if you hear somebody call him Hitler, if there's somebody that thinks, oh, Hitler, and then they look at a lot of actions that are going on, they're like, well, let's prevent this before 4 million people get killed.
00:33:50.540So I can understand how it all incites violence.
00:33:56.760I have to say, I have, you know, continuous mixed feelings about Charlemagne de God.
00:34:03.220I certainly agree with some of his takes.
00:34:06.980And I appreciate that he's taking the both obvious and the honest take, that there is something about our language that probably causes some action that we don't want.
00:34:20.840And that a lot of people are involved, and he's admitting that he is too.
00:34:24.260So I don't know if he'll stop doing it.
00:34:29.020He came close to almost sort of forgiving that kind of stuff because everybody does it.
00:34:36.380He didn't say that, but it sort of bumped into that thought.
00:34:56.560I've heard somebody raging about how he was racist against blacks.
00:35:02.220Now, I don't know every single thing that Charlie Kirk ever said, but I would still be willing to bet a large amount of money that he's never, not even once, said something that anybody could construe as racist against blacks.
00:35:40.080I mean, do people just make shit up and other people say, well, I've never heard him talk, but my friend Bob says he's this terrible person.
00:35:47.620So this is, again, you know, the two movies on one screen that I always talk about.
00:35:54.040How in the world would they have that opinion about him?
00:39:34.980And when asked about what the problem is, Representative Pearson said that instead of more policing, what they need is things to battle poverty, resources, basically, to battle poverty.
00:39:51.400Because if you battled poverty and you improved the schools, you would have less violence.
00:39:57.380Well, he's a stupid idiot, because if you don't solve crime, you don't get any of that other stuff.
00:40:21.660As far as I know, that's a completely impossible thing.
00:40:24.680However, I have heard of cities such as New York City under Giuliani where they beat back the crime and then the economy prospered and presumably people did better in general.
00:40:41.860So there are examples where battling crime first can get you to a place where you have at least the opportunity to work on whatever you think are the other problems.
00:40:52.420But if you don't do crime first, you're not going to have a base of business, you're not going to have a tax base, you won't have money to improve your schools from the tax base.
00:41:17.660And I guess on MSNBC, Peter Baker, he said that the people who are calling the left radical and lunatics are the ones ratcheting up the political rhetoric.
00:44:47.360Does it strike you as odd that these two problems that every Republican understood were gigantic problems, that the Democrats had to wait, what, a year after they were out of office to even admit that?
00:45:16.760I think he did know that was insane, at least the border part.
00:45:19.800And then Axelrod is complaining about the Republicans who may have used the word war recently, as in, you know, we're in a war with the other side.
00:45:34.700And he said that the words have specific meaning.
00:45:37.660When you say you're in a war, it's an invitation for people to commit acts of violence.
00:45:41.580And it didn't take long for social media and Western Lensman caught this on X.
00:45:48.800There's a clip of Chris Murphy, prominent Democrat, who is saying, you know, I think the day before Charlie Kirk was killed, he said, we're in a war to save the country.
00:46:00.400You have to be willing to do whatever is necessary.
00:46:02.680Now, if you say the context is a war, and then you say you have to do whatever is necessary, that does allow killing.
00:46:11.500That would be whatever is necessary to some people, not to me, obviously.
00:46:16.160So, Axelrod, I would sort of partially agree that war is a fighting word.
00:46:28.300But when I see Republicans talk that way, I know that they don't mean it literally.
00:46:35.940But when Democrats talk about Trump being, you know, the next authoritarian Hitler, they mean it literally.
00:46:45.560You know, I mean, not that he's going to have a little mustache and change his name to Hitler, but that he would act like that.
00:46:53.060I've never heard any Republican who would believe that we're in a literal war as opposed to a political one.
00:47:01.460Anyway, Trump has ordered the State Department to expand their screening to disallow people who are trying to get into the country on visas,
00:47:15.500to disallow them if they've said bad things about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
00:47:23.980I guess they're using AI to search for things that they might have said.
00:49:25.340I also believe that women did not evolve for defense, protection, defense, to be their top priority, sort of biologically designed to do it.
00:52:51.560One of their commentators got fired for kind of suggesting that maybe Charlie Kirk's narrative got him killed.
00:53:04.500And, you know, they say they'll do better, et cetera.
00:53:06.900But I don't know if their apology means anything, because then they put the same bunch of lying idiots on the air to make the same claims that Trump's the one to blame for the violence.
00:53:21.760They all need to be fired if you're going to be taken seriously.
00:53:25.300And if you're not going to fire the liars and the morons who are making everything worse, and they're basically triggering killers, in my opinion.
00:53:36.900If you're not going to do something real about that, don't give us your little press release about that one guy you didn't care about anyway, who didn't have his own show.
00:54:28.460Have his financial records been thoroughly examined by some police entity in prior cases, you know, prior situation?
00:54:38.880Or would the Treasury Department have to start from scratch and say, I don't know, nobody's looked into this, but, you know, we'll spend a month trying to put it together?
00:54:53.020Well, maybe we'll find out everything.
00:54:55.260Because, or maybe we don't, we won't, because, allegedly, Epstein was an expert at laundering money.
00:55:03.960So if we see all the official and legal ways that he moved money around, it might not tell us anything.
00:55:10.440But I'd love to see the dollar amounts, wouldn't you?
00:55:14.340Wouldn't you like to see if suddenly, I don't know, $50 million came into his account one day and there's no explanation for it?
00:55:22.160But, I don't know, and I don't know how much of his money would have been, let's say, in Swiss accounts or something like that.
00:55:30.040I don't know if we can penetrate them these days.
00:59:26.920We're building, I don't know, fixing the highways in town or whatever we're doing.
00:59:30.540If you didn't have a ton of money flowing through the city, well, maybe, maybe the people you elect would just do the job of taking care of the city.
00:59:42.380But the moment the dollar amounts go through the roof, which would be the current situation, you know, anything you did in the city would be ridiculously expensive.
00:59:52.180And then you let those same politicians decide where the money goes, you know, which vendors do the work.
00:59:59.840You are guaranteed, guaranteed to create a criminal organization around siphoning off some of that money just because there's so much of it.
01:00:10.080So I would argue that the founders who brilliantly created a great system and constitution, that if they had known how much money was going to be flowing through the cities eventually, they would not have designed it the way they did.
01:00:30.180You know, now, obviously, anything can be audited if people want to, but it needs to be a permanent part of the system.
01:00:38.200You've got to have something where the auditors change out often so they don't get corrupted or owned by the, you know, the people they're trying to audit.
01:00:48.500And I don't know exactly what the system would be, but there needs to be gigantic transparency about where every dollar goes.
01:00:57.480And we should all be able to easily look at it.
01:01:00.260And we should look at, oh, it went to this vendor.
01:01:03.060Does this vendor have any connection, family or best friends or anything, with the people who made the decision?
01:01:11.400Well, then you can maybe drive crime out of the governments.
01:01:15.040But at the moment, I just assume that any mayor of a big city is a criminal.
01:02:41.200So, uh, Elon Musk and J.D. Vance are agreeing with each other on, on acts that, uh, you could do a lot about crime if you just put in jail forever the few people who commit all the crimes.
01:02:55.460Now, you're probably aware that they're just individuals who can do hundreds of crimes and even be caught hundreds of times and released to do hundreds of more.
01:03:05.760So if you don't put them in jail forever, your crime rate probably never goes down because they don't stop doing crimes and they're not going anywhere.
01:03:17.060So if you don't lock them up forever, there's no really hope of crime ever going down.
01:03:26.140Uh, but if you lock up the most dangerous people who are doing probably, I don't know what the ratio is, but 80% of the crime, probably maybe 5% of the criminals are doing 80% of the crime.
01:03:41.140And we know who they are because we keep catching them.
01:03:45.220It's not like they're even hard to catch.
01:03:47.080They've been caught maybe dozens of times already, but they're just let go.
01:04:05.220It brings attention to things and maybe calms things down temporarily, but it doesn't seem like a permanent.
01:04:10.980I don't think it's a permanent fix, but jailing the people who do all the crimes, that would be permanent.
01:04:16.780Now, if you wanted to get clever and say, Hey, it's too evil to put people in jail for life because they, let's say they shoplifted three times in a row or something like that.
01:04:29.780I don't know if that would be enough to be life in prison, but I feel like some people just need to be, you know, sent to the island where they can live with the other crooks and they're just not near people who are not crooks and maybe keep them there forever.
01:04:45.720But it doesn't have to be in a jail cell, you know, you can let them just wander around and eat cheap food and grow their own or, you know, they could survive.
01:04:57.720It's just, you just can't let them with other people.
01:05:25.580And remember, the House is really close.
01:05:28.680So one seat could be the difference between a majority and not having a majority for the Republicans.
01:05:34.500Well, we know now that John Bolton's personal email account, he was using a non-secure personal email for some stuff he's being accused of, was hacked by a foreign entity, New York Post is reporting.
01:05:49.720Now, I don't know what foreign entity it was that's not being reported.
01:05:53.100But how do you feel knowing that he was using his personal email for some things that may have been classified, at least that's an allegation, and that foreign entities had hacked it?
01:07:00.880But even expensive doesn't, expensive doesn't seem to be a good enough reason, you know, in a war scenario.
01:07:09.760Anyway, so Trump says that NATO's commitment to win has been less than 100%.
01:07:14.820Now, I don't know if he's going to get away with this, but he wants to go major sanctions on Russia and major sanctions on China for buying oil from Russia.