Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 2982 CWSA 10⧸08⧸25

00:00:00.000 like that you know it surprises me all right your stocks look like they're kind of flat

00:00:07.120 not much happening today so i guess we'll do a show how about that yeah it's a good idea

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00:01:33.200 all right that was my last sip of the cup but boy was it good oh so good

00:01:41.520 well speaking of marijuana um mario naufel had some uh interesting posts that he surfaced on x the ap is

00:01:50.320 talking about this one there's new 800 pound 800 person not pound uh 800 person study found that

00:01:59.280 a cannabis-based drug slashed chronic lower back pain effectively with fewer side effects than opioids

00:02:07.920 do you believe that that uh thc the the active component of marijuana reduced back pain more than

00:02:18.080 opioids well you know who they could have asked me because i have lower back pain and i have taken

00:02:27.440 opioids on prescription of course uh and i have taken marijuana in large quantities

00:02:35.120 guess which one makes me feel better it's not even close it's not even close people the the first of

00:02:43.920 all the marijuana you can take as much as you want you know as long as long as you're not responsible for

00:02:50.160 work or driving or kids or anything like that but uh you can you could just sort of say that didn't make

00:02:57.040 a difference how about this until at the very least you're not caring about it as much which might be

00:03:03.920 the secret might not it might not be the pain maybe it's just the caring about the pain i don't know how

00:03:09.200 you divide that but uh next time ap you want a story that just ask me i can tell you meanwhile spain is

00:03:19.360 moving to legalize medical cannabis um it's not passed yet but i guess the council of ministers has

00:03:27.200 approved it and it's on its way to getting passed but over in germany they're going the opposite direction

00:03:33.920 so germany was one of the most liberal uh countries and they allowed uh i think total legal cannabis

00:03:43.120 including you could just buy it online now what they're trying to walk back is the buying it online

00:03:50.800 part i believe which uh i agree with i would agree with that as long as you can go to a dispensary and

00:03:59.040 show your id and as long as they have delivery service for people who need it for medical reasons

00:04:06.080 but are not well i mean i'm a perfect example if i needed more medical marijuana chances are i wouldn't

00:04:13.840 want to drive uh the driving because you know if you have a medical problem you might be on other drugs

00:04:21.280 that are bad for driving so delivery is pretty important delivery is very important for the medical

00:04:28.000 people very important it's critical really um so i think that's a good move by germany they tried it

00:04:36.240 the online part was problem so they're just walking back the problem part good on you germany for at

00:04:43.280 least being a rational player um then uh i guess sean duffy was on fox news the was it outnumbered or

00:04:56.400 something whatever it was this morning and sean duffy uh was uh he's the head of transportation right

00:05:05.760 and uh he said talking about legalizing marijuana he said quote i think it would be a huge mistake

00:05:12.720 for the federal government to legalize it now um here's my take

00:05:19.760 i think the argument his argument was that unlike alcohol where you can test somebody and find out if

00:05:28.320 they were driving drunk so you have something like a deterrent a legal deterrent which is good

00:05:37.200 you know you might still want alcohol to be illegal most people do but uh wouldn't you like a little bit

00:05:43.920 a deterrent against driving because that's deadly so that makes sense but you can't quite get that

00:05:51.440 deterrent with marijuana because people's individual responses are all over the place and there's no easy

00:05:58.320 way to test to find out if a person is um had too much for example somebody like me who's a lifelong

00:06:08.320 adult user um you could you could just pack me with marijuana before it would have any effect on even

00:06:17.600 sports i can play tennis with as much marijuana as you want now now obviously tennis is a very difficult

00:06:26.320 thing i don't recommend driving under marijuana by the way just to be clear i don't recommend driving

00:06:32.160 if you're under the influence don't drive but it's not true that everybody's going to have the same

00:06:38.320 amount of impairment so it makes it a problem for deciding whether you should go to jail are you really

00:06:43.920 high or are you still better driver than most people over the age of 60 just because you're not over the age

00:06:51.680 of 60 so you know it doesn't really work as a standard but i believe that's a terrible argument

00:06:58.000 um the good argument is that if you keep it illegal at a federal level that sends a better message to

00:07:08.080 teenagers everybody agrees with that right imagine arguing with your teenager who says uh you know

00:07:16.320 it's totally legal right not for teenagers under all conditions it won't be legal for teenagers

00:07:23.040 but it would be easier for them to argue hey i'm 17 you know i i can start making my own decisions

00:07:31.760 if it would be legal for me in two months after my birthday are you telling me that i can't make that

00:07:37.840 decision now two months before my birthday or whatever i don't know if it's 18 or 21 but as an argument

00:07:45.120 for keeping teenagers off it it really helps if you can say it's illegal on any level it just really

00:07:55.280 helps so from a parenting perspective believe it or not there might be some some real argument for

00:08:04.160 keeping it illegal at a federal level while at the same time the state police say we're gonna let it go

00:08:13.120 and maybe they would just you know turn the other way in terms of the federal charges

00:08:19.920 anyway so i think uh sean duffy could improve that argument a little bit um did you know that if jabba

00:08:29.040 the hutt had an evil twin that twin would probably be considered a front runner to be the next governor of

00:08:36.720 california and the only reason i say that is because the only thing we do that's dumber than what we're

00:08:42.800 doing and then i saw a video of somebody called katie porter who's apparently a front runner to be

00:08:52.320 the next democrat candidate for governor and uh you're gonna have to see the video of katie porter

00:08:59.840 talking to a reporter oh my god oh my god ah run away uh

00:09:11.120 i mean it's just all bad and you know that thing about overweight people being jolly

00:09:17.200 well i guess we're gonna throw that out

00:09:20.080 yeah she she looks like pritzker in a wig but so that pretty much guarantees that she'll be the

00:09:27.680 next governor i think because you oh my god

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00:09:59.840 apply anyway jd vance posted what they're saying is his first tick tock video as vp the hill is

00:10:10.640 reporting on this and uh here's what he said oh i want to just tell you what he said and i'll give

00:10:17.920 you my review of it he said quote now imagine him he's just standing full frontal from his knees up

00:10:28.400 standing in front of some official thing with some flags desk i think and here's what he says this is

00:10:34.480 his whole tick tock he says jd vance here just wanted to let you know that we are relaunching the

00:10:40.560 vp's tick tock page and then he said uh i got a little lazy the last few months i was focused on

00:10:47.360 the job of being vp not enough on tick tocks that's about to change so follow along you guys

00:10:56.400 we'll update y'all on what's going on in the white house the business of state we'll update you on

00:11:01.600 what's going on politically maybe some sombrero memes here and there but follow along and we'll

00:11:06.880 look forward to connecting on tick tock see them all right now here's what that doesn't sound like

00:11:13.760 much right doesn't sound like there's much meat to that tick tock but let me call your attention to

00:11:21.680 this what were the odds that a uh an elected member of our government any member of congress

00:11:30.960 just think of anybody except trump all right for this one for this one purpose imagine trump is not

00:11:39.120 part of the conversation he's the only one who's not part of the conversation look at all the other

00:11:44.640 politicians how many of them could have pulled this off none none there's not another politician that

00:11:52.880 could have done what he did he was playful he showed that he understood the tick tock kind of vibe

00:12:01.680 that if you're completely serious you're doing it wrong right if you're completely serious doing it

00:12:08.960 wrong but how well can a elected politician deliver some social media quality i'll say witticisms not not

00:12:20.320 outright jokes but just witticisms who can do that and the answer is nobody nobody jd vance can do it if you

00:12:30.000 don't realize how thin that target was he just hit a target that was the size of the arrow and he did it

00:12:38.720 effortlessly so he has just the right sensibility of when to mock something when to mock himself gently

00:12:48.800 you know without going too far in the self-deprecation i don't like the self-deprecation

00:12:52.880 um but if you're wondering who has the right stuff to be the next president boy would you miss this if

00:13:03.440 he didn't have it do you know how much you would miss having a president who could deliver a you know

00:13:10.080 i won't say a laugh line but at but at least uh oh that's pretty funny you know you you hit that target

00:13:16.160 very rare he can do it

00:13:20.400 all right i didn't love his so the suit he was wearing i thought was a mistake

00:13:25.200 so i'll give uh i'll give one negative uh if you're gonna do a full body

00:13:30.960 image i'd do a little more work on the suit he wears good suits just you know not that day

00:13:39.120 um i think he had uh yeah i'm i want to say more than that uh the trump administration is rumored

00:13:50.480 per forbes that they're thinking about maybe selling a portion of their gigantic

00:13:57.280 student loan debt to a private market why would they do that now what that means is uh people owe the

00:14:04.960 government i don't know uh 1.6 trillion dollars for student loan debt the way anybody who had who

00:14:13.600 owns the debt in other words the people who are supposed to be paid the way they can get rid of

00:14:19.200 that debt is by selling the debt to somebody else who's in that right kind of business so in other words

00:14:25.840 you say if you give us i'll just make up a number if you give us half a trillion dollars

00:14:31.680 we'll give you the ability to collect 1.6 trillion dollars from these people who used to owe us but

00:14:39.360 now they'll owe you because we sold it to you so they would have to deeply discount it for it to make sense

00:14:46.800 at all um but you have to keep in mind that a private entity probably can't be as successful

00:14:56.080 garnishing wages so so debt is worth more to the government than it is to private individuals

00:15:04.480 because the government can pretty much squeeze you until you pay private companies they can squeeze

00:15:10.480 you a lot they can mess with your credit etc but probably can't force you to pay it's a little bit

00:15:16.720 harder for a private entity so that makes the value of the debt lower because what they would be buying

00:15:22.800 would be worth lower and maybe private entities could be more aggressive in collecting maybe they

00:15:29.920 could be more innovative in how they handle the debt so there's something there i i wouldn't i wouldn't

00:15:37.520 say that this is necessarily a good idea uh you'd have to know the details it's all in the details but

00:15:43.840 maybe i mean it's within the realm of yeah maybe um eric dolan of psypost is writing about a study

00:15:54.400 they showed that public opinion shifts um your cardiovascular response during political talking

00:16:04.160 so in other words if they hook you up to sensors they can determine that some political topics make

00:16:10.720 your heart beat and your your hands sweaty and basically your body has a autonomic response now let me

00:16:20.480 ask you this what would be more useful in understanding the american public an opinion poll in which we

00:16:30.160 already know that 25 of the people asked are going to have the wrong answer because they do on every poll

00:16:35.440 and the other 75 didn't understand the question right that's that's what an opinion poll is the if you

00:16:44.960 say um can you uh give us your opinion on closing the government well people will have an opinion but do you think

00:16:52.960 they'll understand it uh that they want to close the border but do they understand all the ins and outs of

00:17:00.480 the policy you know the short term the long term not really so opinion polls are a good you know pretty

00:17:08.640 good gauge of what people are going to say you know if you talk to them they'll say those things and

00:17:15.760 that's a good gauge of that but what about how they feel that's what this uh cardiovascular response

00:17:23.120 is so this is not so much about this specific study making a more general statement that if you could

00:17:31.520 study how people feel like literally put sensors on their body so that they can't lie to you you're just

00:17:38.560 reading their body directly then you would suddenly know all the right policies not the logical policies

00:17:46.640 but you would know what you could sell now imagine and by the way i think that trump understands this

00:17:52.960 like nobody has ever understood it that's what it means to be able to read the room reading the room is

00:17:58.720 not listening to the words it's knowing how they feel that's what he does so if you look at the top three

00:18:07.200 issues for voters often it'll be stuff like crime and uh the border and inflation of course but that's

00:18:17.680 that affects everybody but don't you think that those are the same things that would show up on an

00:18:23.680 automatic or what time what is it uh your cardiovascular and your other responses if i hook you up to

00:18:31.600 something and you're having a tough time paying your bills and then i say how do you feel about

00:18:38.640 inflation it doesn't matter what words come out of your mouth if if as soon as you hear inflation you

00:18:45.200 think i can't pay my bills oh my god what am i gonna do and your body starts going crazy now you really

00:18:51.120 know something i mean you really really know something and likewise with the border if you show

00:18:57.840 somebody pictures of you know uh non-citizens streaming over the border and say how do you feel

00:19:03.680 about that i don't want to hear what words they use that would be a little bit interesting but not

00:19:10.880 really but if you tell me that if they see that picture of their heartbeat goes oh my god i'm under

00:19:17.200 attack which you might for some people it might feel like an attack it does feel like an attack it does

00:19:23.840 um don't you think that opinion polls should at least be augmented by a smaller number of people

00:19:34.400 checking people's automatic responses so you know my friend uh carmen simon who's uh in that line of

00:19:43.040 business

00:19:46.240 and that line of business means testing people's you know bodily responses to to different questions she

00:19:52.640 doesn't do politics but because uh you know i'm very familiar with her work by the way you should

00:19:59.120 follow her on locals carmen simon dr carmen simon so she's usually doing you know corporate questions

00:20:07.840 and things like that you know if we do this versus that how do you feel one of the things i learned

00:20:12.880 years years ago when i worked in the user interface lab at pacific belt now i was not one of the

00:20:20.800 scientists working on testing people but we were in the same small group so sometimes i'd get to sit

00:20:28.640 in the room behind the you know behind the glass and watch somebody being tested so i learned i learned

00:20:34.800 a lot about that process and the most surprising thing i learned is if you're testing whether people

00:20:40.080 can use a user interface what what do you think is the right number of people to test

00:20:46.480 let's compare that to an opinion poll where i don't know what the number is but you probably want a

00:20:52.640 thousand people would you feel comfortable if you talk to a thousand people that would be a pretty

00:20:59.280 good opinion poll i think nationally but if you're testing people for a user interface how many do you have

00:21:05.280 to test do you have to test a thousand nope five maybe one because if that person says ah i'm looking all

00:21:18.560 over this page and i don't see a button and then you bring in the next person and they say ah i i don't

00:21:26.160 see i don't even see the button and then you bring in the third fourth and fifth and they all say

00:21:31.200 uh i i don't know where the button is you don't have to wonder if those five people are coincidentally

00:21:39.440 messed up and they're the only ones who can't use your user interface you have guaranteed that it's

00:21:45.760 unusable four out of five three out of five guarantees it's unusable you have to redo it so if you're looking

00:21:54.080 at how people feel and this is maybe the analogy is not perfect i realize that but if you look at

00:22:02.000 how people feel we're way more similar in how we feel than in how we talk so if you get an opinion

00:22:12.320 poll people will be talking in all different ways but the way they feel about it might just be one of

00:22:19.440 two ways it either bothers you or doesn't bother you and that would be i mean that would just be

00:22:25.120 amazing if you do that on every topic i think that's uh trump's superpower is that you can feel

00:22:33.440 how people feel somehow

00:22:37.760 all right uh there was a nobel prize awarded to uh the first mainland chinese scientist and also a woman

00:22:46.880 i think that's worth noting for china and uh she discovered uh artemisinin malaria cure oh wow

00:22:56.000 she saved millions of lives with the malaria cure damn that's pretty impressive but uh um instead of

00:23:04.560 being impressed by the science i'm going to impress you with a joke that somebody told about this topic

00:23:10.800 this is one of the best jokes i've ever seen and uh it's by um abobo naduki who may or may not be a

00:23:22.240 real person i can't tell online but uh you have to listen to this joke so the article says that her name

00:23:29.920 is two you you two you and uh she won the nobel prize now this of course is a you know a great honor

00:23:39.520 uh you know we should be showing her maximum respect so her name is spelled two the first name is just

00:23:47.680 tu and then the last name is just the word you put together twice you you y-o-u y-o-u and here's the joke

00:23:56.640 from mabogo also she is the most difficult person to sing happy birthday to

00:24:06.240 happy birthday to you you

00:24:13.280 come on i think it adds i think that joke had 16 million views when i checked this morning

00:24:18.880 that's a quality joke that's a quality joke that's a that's a nobel prize joke right there

00:24:27.600 i hate that the joke overshadowed her accomplishment of quote saving millions of lives

00:24:35.760 but yeah saving millions of lives that's cool too that's cool too but are we overlooking

00:24:41.440 the quality of this joke come on people let's be fair

00:24:47.680 anyway

00:24:48.240 you want to hear the least surprising news of the day the news is all weird and funny and uh

00:24:59.920 the today show will be the best you ever saw um so remember i always say that all data is fake

00:25:08.480 if it matters if it doesn't matter you know maybe it's maybe it's not fake but if it matters there's

00:25:15.040 somebody whose job it is to make sure that you don't see the real the real stuff there's always

00:25:20.000 somebody's job to make sure you don't see accurate data yeah it used to be my job when i worked for a big

00:25:27.840 corporation my job was to make sure people didn't see accurate data

00:25:31.680 and you know you don't think about that you don't think of it that way at first

00:25:38.560 but you you soon realize you know that we say hey i don't have good data for this branch bank or

00:25:44.800 whatever that i was monitoring so we should just leave out the data because we don't really have

00:25:49.600 data for this one bank and the boss would say no just make something up and just put it in there

00:25:55.120 because i don't use the data anyway i just use it if it agrees with me he actually told me that um so

00:26:02.880 so given that context that all data is fake if it matters what do you think of the census data

00:26:14.080 what would matter more than census data maybe just the national elections but census data is

00:26:20.800 right up there right do you what what else would be like way toward the top of importance of data

00:26:28.560 how about jobs data how about those jobs the jobs data we recently learned that was just totally made up

00:26:39.840 one of one of the uh by far oh actually i'm not high i read i'm not high at all i will be after the show um

00:26:50.880 just it's worth mentioning that opinion i think the news is just genuinely funny today

00:26:57.440 and i've been sort of laughing all day but on top of that uh i won't give you the long story but the

00:27:04.000 short story is this is the first pain-free day i've had since last december so if you think i'm high on

00:27:13.120 life oh god i am i didn't know that i could ever feel pain-free again now it won't last

00:27:20.720 that's also a longer story it's probably just today but i have

00:27:26.960 rarely felt better than i feel right now rarely my whole life because you know you feel better

00:27:33.040 if you're coming off of something bad there's nothing the best meal i ever had in my life

00:27:39.520 was after a week of dental work where i could only eat soft food and the first time i had like a piece

00:27:45.280 some pasta i thought oh my god oh what is this it's like god in my mouth so that's how i'm feeling

00:27:53.600 right now so if i do seem unusually happy you're right but not for marijuana and i don't drink so

00:28:02.480 it's not it's not those two things anyway back to the census bureau if we know that all data is fake

00:28:08.800 if it matters and the census matters more than just about anything would you be surprised that

00:28:14.320 there's a group called center for renewing america whose claim is that the census is not just flawed

00:28:24.000 but intentionally

00:28:27.520 intentionally flawed and i was thinking to myself hmm how are they going to convince me of that

00:28:34.240 because you know everything's political and you can't trust you can't really trust some you know

00:28:39.600 entity you've never heard of suddenly making a you know big provocative claim you know you want to

00:28:45.840 you want to keep your powder dry maybe see if anybody else is saying the same thing listen to the

00:28:50.800 argument hear both sides well they didn't have to do that uh apparently the census bureau according to

00:28:59.200 the center for renewing america has a quote secretive algorithm that only a handful of bureaucrats have

00:29:06.640 access to and it's called differential privacy to scramble block level data hide citizenship status

00:29:15.520 and shift political power to non-citizens

00:29:20.720 okay you had me at secretive algorithm oh but let us tell you more about why we know this

00:29:29.200 data is not accurate nope stop stop did you not just say secret algorithm

00:29:36.640 yes we did that's just the beginning of our argument stop stop take the rest of the day off

00:29:43.120 if you tell me that any part of the census has a secret algorithm we're done here

00:29:51.280 we're done here the census is bullshit i don't know how much bullshit but it's definitely

00:29:58.800 bullshit how about those temperature calculations for climate change huh huh do you think that they

00:30:07.520 replaced all the thermometers that went out of service or were close to uh heat islands in other

00:30:13.840 words too close to things like airports that would heat them up too much no they use their secretive

00:30:20.800 algorithm to s to estimate what the temperature would be if they had measured it

00:30:30.000 so the climate change and apparently the census have always been complete bullshits

00:30:40.160 i've always been so that was fun now i know there's going to be another side to this story and the

00:30:47.760 census people will say no no that's not true but i'll tell you there's nothing more persuasive to

00:30:55.440 me than somebody says they got a secret algorithm no other questions i have no other questions after i

00:31:02.640 hear that phrase how about obamacare do you think that the data about obamacare is pretty good

00:31:12.240 pretty clean the people who put it into uh put it into law they had a good idea what was going to

00:31:18.960 happen and they weren't surprised at all because things went just the way they estimated it would

00:31:24.560 obamacare what do you think well according to economist stephen moore uh the real he posted an

00:31:32.400 x the real problem is that obamacare was never actually affordable so apparently the washington post

00:31:39.280 just uh according to steven just admitted what conservatives have been saying for 15 years

00:31:46.480 quote this is from the washington post the real problem is that obamacare was never actually

00:31:51.520 affordable thank you jeff bezos you know you wonder if jeff bezos was at all serious

00:31:59.920 about making the at least the opinion part of the newspaper um closer to something that would show

00:32:07.040 both sides or at least close to the middle or something i would say this is one of the best

00:32:12.320 examples of him succeeding in that in that narrow aim that i've seen can you believe that the washington

00:32:20.320 post you know the big the biggest one of the biggest supporters of the democrats would say this

00:32:26.480 directly the problem was it was never a good idea economically and that by the way is the best

00:32:33.360 reframe for obamacare here's the worst reframe you cheap miserable psychotic bastards want to cut that

00:32:42.880 obamacare and take away all the affordable health care for people what kind of monsters are you that

00:32:50.080 would be the current frame not so good here's a better one the people who implemented it knew it

00:32:57.440 would fail because it was never affordable and now we're just paying the cost of those people who lied

00:33:03.360 to you for low those many years that is completely true that the people who implemented it lied to you

00:33:12.960 about what it would cost and uh they've been lying since then and that it was never affordable it's

00:33:20.000 it's not a question of um are you willing to pay more that that's what it feels like are you willing

00:33:27.760 to pay more it's not really that it was unaffordable by its nature on day one and wasn't going to get

00:33:36.800 better now i have complimented obama for the way he implemented it flawed because he said out loud and i

00:33:47.440 appreciated the transparency at the time at the time he said there are lots of problems with obamacare

00:33:53.120 he didn't call it that but he said uh if we don't get something in there we won't have anything to

00:34:00.080 correct i'm i'm paraphrasing that's not his exact words but did he did say directly that he would

00:34:07.040 prefer to implement a flawed plan and then the the markets try to adjust and you know get the price

00:34:16.080 down etc so that wasn't the worst idea in the world uh except that under i think it underappreciated

00:34:24.720 how incompetent congress is if we had a competent congress that operated let's say like a startup or

00:34:32.080 like a private industry then you could implement something bad let's call it the original iphone

00:34:39.280 the original iphone was a piece of garbage i mean it was just garbage but it was also apple computer

00:34:47.600 so by putting the first one out there they they created a market amazingly against all odds and then

00:34:53.840 they could work on it every year and then it could become an amazing an amazing piece of technology so

00:34:59.360 it's not that unusual for a private entity to do what obama did implement the flawed version and that's

00:35:07.840 the fastest way you get it fixed by you know raising its visibility so but it didn't work it didn't

00:35:15.680 work the government is not capable of doing what apple is capable of doing which is fast fixing things

00:35:22.080 that are broken once something becomes a you know law or somebody in congress is making money at it or

00:35:29.120 you know their cronies are overcharging obamacare and all the other things that happen

00:35:34.160 can't really fix it can't really fix it so what is trump doing he's breaking it without having a solution

00:35:43.680 does that make sense does it make sense to break it if you don't have a good replacement people depend

00:35:50.960 on it he's just going to break it well probably it does make sense because again the government is

00:35:58.960 not apple computer keeping it flawed and fixing it would be great if we were apple computer but

00:36:06.320 sometimes you just have to break it you gotta you gotta shake the box and it's going to cause all kinds

00:36:13.280 of problems in the short run do you know who has balls big enough to create all kinds of problems in

00:36:20.480 the short run because it's the only way to get to where we need to get affordable health care trump

00:36:26.880 somebody who doesn't need to run again if you were running for president again might change how

00:36:34.560 he approached it but he's got the balls he's got the mandate he's got the second term he's got the

00:36:40.880 right people he can break this thing and the faster we can figure out some way to fix it because fixing it

00:36:48.880 is the goal the goal is not breaking it the the goal is not just taking away those you know tax burdens

00:36:56.400 the goal is to have a better health care he doesn't have that yet but boy can he shake a box

00:37:04.240 however there are some good things happening in health care that we'll talk about in a minute

00:37:09.840 bernie sanders uh according to bright bar news is reporting on that he was in an interview recently and he said

00:37:15.680 uh um the democrats will quote quote lose our leverage if they vote to resume the pay of air traffic

00:37:25.360 controllers and service members so talk about tone deaf when when the government uh is shut down who is

00:37:36.960 suffering it's people who are at the lowest economic rung it's uh ordinary you know air

00:37:45.520 traffic controllers and of course service people that's the most the most grotesque part of this is

00:37:52.400 if service people are effective i mean that's just grotesque but to refer to it as losing our leverage

00:38:02.160 talk about not being able to read a room do you know how much we care about democrat leverage

00:38:09.360 when you can't pay your effing bills if you can't pay your bills you just hate their guts from top to

00:38:18.000 bottom and you probably don't even care who it was that that you know blocked the uh the payments you

00:38:25.360 just freaking hate their freaking guts you imagine looking into your bank account and the money isn't there

00:38:31.840 and and and you know who it is it's bernie and then bernie says we don't want to lose our leverage

00:38:38.720 well fuck you and your leverage bernie why don't you take your leverage and shove it so far up your

00:38:44.080 fucking crinkled ass that it comes out your ears fuck you and your leverage by the way it's not like i

00:38:52.160 disagree with them i'm not disagreeing with the point i'm just saying if you do this to people and then you

00:38:59.280 say out loud it's for your fucking leverage you better fix that that is such a messaging mistake

00:39:08.880 imagine this clown being your president this is the opposite of reading a room right how can you read

00:39:16.320 a room worse than this oh what we need is some massive socialism and don't want to give up our

00:39:22.160 leverage should certainly don't want to be paying those people in the military fuck you

00:39:26.240 you fuck you and your leverage all right according to rasmussen poll um 49 uh of the people who were

00:39:43.840 polled say uh the democrats did the closing of the government for the benefit of illegal aliens nearly half

00:39:51.840 half of voters agree with a top trump administration figure on the reason for the current government

00:39:58.480 shut down 49 so about half say that the democrats shut it down to give free health care to illegal aliens

00:40:08.640 so is the free health care to illegal aliens the reason the government is shut down

00:40:15.840 well there's some of the reason but but the trump administration is totally dominating the the

00:40:26.480 messaging and they have made people argue whether or not they're uh you know helping to pay illegal

00:40:33.760 aliens i'm not even going to get into that argument it would be easy to argue that's not exactly

00:40:41.520 technically what's going on but it would be equally easy to argue that well although it's not technically

00:40:49.440 what's going on it's exactly what's going on but i can see why technically you think it's not

00:40:56.880 but it's exactly what's going on and a lot of has to do with who you call illegal if you're here on amnesty

00:41:03.040 is it illegal and then there's a question of if the hospitals are going to treat you either way

00:41:08.320 what's different the hospital is still going to treat you uh but i guess you just wouldn't have

00:41:16.160 the emergency room would still treat you but uh you wouldn't have regular health care which of course would be

00:41:22.480 way better

00:41:25.280 so uh messaging wise i'd have to give the wind so far to trump all right here's a story about uh gel man

00:41:35.280 amnesia do all of you know that now i talk about it so much that most of my audience should recognize

00:41:41.520 that gel man amnesia quickly uh gel man was a physicist who realized that when he read the paper

00:41:49.680 and saw a story on his expertise physics he always knew the story was fake news but but as soon as he turned

00:41:58.320 the page to let's say politics he would read it like it was probably true and one day he thought uh

00:42:06.880 i feel like i might be noticing a pattern here that whenever i know the truth of the story

00:42:12.880 the news is fake but whenever i don't know the truth behind the story i just uncritically assume

00:42:18.960 they got that one right and so he concluded that probably all the news is fake

00:42:25.200 would you like to see a real world example of gel man amnesia now one of the benefits i think i think

00:42:35.520 bill maher said exactly the same thing i'm gonna say paraphrasing that if you're a public figure

00:42:41.920 you live gel man amnesia all day long which is when you read stories about yourself or about something

00:42:48.800 you're an expert on you know it's fake news so if you're a celebrity you've seen the fake news

00:42:55.040 about yourself over and over and over and over and over again to the point where if you saw news about

00:43:01.600 at least another celebrity you would say probably not probably there's context missing etc so there

00:43:09.440 was a story about me uh yesterday so there's an entity called the bulwark the bulwark so that's a

00:43:17.840 publication i didn't realize that it wasn't just a democrat publication apparently they're anti-trumpers

00:43:26.800 and uh one of the one of the principles there is uh tim miller who i did not realize

00:43:34.640 that before he was an anti-trumper he was uh jeb bush's

00:43:42.080 communication director

00:43:48.080 for jeb bush

00:43:53.280 so imagine imagine if your prior job

00:44:00.560 was jeb bush's communications director oh poor guy let me summarize jeb bush's

00:44:09.120 uh communication

00:44:14.560 uh i'm gonna do a fast forward of jeb bush's speeches and things he said blah blah blah blah blah blah

00:44:22.560 blah blah blah blah fast forward blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and then

00:44:27.360 that would go on for you know hundreds of hours now let me quote uh donald trump totally ending the

00:44:36.320 career of jeb bush with these words jeb bush is so low energy and we're done imagine imagine

00:44:48.560 imagine being the

00:44:53.040 communication

00:44:54.960 director and having your entire campaign taken out with one sentence

00:45:04.320 anyway

00:45:06.400 now i'm i'm making fun of tim miller only because of the unfortunate career arc

00:45:13.040 but i have to admit i like him uh

00:45:19.680 and i'd wondered why

00:45:21.760 when he was on msnbc and the the shows i'm all primed to dislike i wondered why he always seemed like

00:45:28.720 a reasonable guy even though he'd be a little anti-trump i think well he's not crazy like a lot of the people that msnbc

00:45:37.280 he has on are just just batshit crazy but he didn't seem crazy

00:45:42.880 and i kept wondering

00:45:44.880 how could this you know rational person who has a different opinion but he's a rational person how

00:45:52.000 like how is he part of the democrats and now i learned

00:45:54.880 that uh i think he's maybe a recent uh i don't know independent maybe i don't know what he is but he's no longer a republican

00:46:03.200 he's an anti-trumper so he was on with bill crystal and they were showing a video of me

00:46:10.320 so when they showed a video of me

00:46:13.440 let's see if you can guess

00:46:15.280 do you think it included the full context

00:46:18.320 so you can really see what i had to say

00:46:20.960 how many people think that they showed the full context of my comments

00:46:25.600 of course not

00:46:26.320 do you think that taking it out of context completely reversed

00:46:33.200 or at least you know maximally changed what i was saying

00:46:38.320 of course of course

00:46:40.400 and do you think that you would have necessarily noticed

00:46:44.400 if you had not also had the pleasure of listening to me say it originally

00:46:49.120 and then seeing what they did to it would you have noticed

00:46:51.760 it was there any way you could tell that contacts had been removed no but i could tell

00:46:59.840 i could tell so this is gel man amnesia i knew what they left out but you didn't unless you watched

00:47:07.680 me a lot of you watch me so here's what they uh what they included they included me um

00:47:16.000 um talking about how uh trump was uh in my opinion he was authoritarian and a strong man

00:47:27.360 and uh what i meant by that is that he he pushes every envelope he he kicks every door he does

00:47:37.520 everything that he can get done executive orders he pushes around israel if he can he's a bully

00:47:44.400 and my argument was if you know your perfect form of government would be exactly that guy

00:47:52.640 now here's the parts i left out that i would never support him for a third term

00:47:58.160 because the system would break down so if you don't leave the part where it's completely impractical

00:48:05.200 to have any kind of a policy of you know trying to have or supporting an authoritarian

00:48:11.040 strongman strongman you're completely missing the philosophical uh brilliance of my point the point

00:48:18.800 is not that we should try to get that or that the next one should be that or that we should be glad we

00:48:24.560 have it i'm just saying we do have it and it works great so i'm not going to complain about something we

00:48:32.720 do have and it works great but trump is such a unique character that uh that you're not gonna there's no

00:48:43.600 there's no hope you're gonna get a second one right it's not like you say oh let's try to get another

00:48:50.160 one who's who's that ballsy and that strong well good luck good luck with that you know it's sort of a

00:48:58.560 one-off and so i reposted it and said you know i'd never support it but what's funny is i don't know

00:49:05.600 a single person who seriously thinks trump should or would do a third term do any of you i'm curious

00:49:16.560 there always be there's always gonna be some troll who says yes but seriously how many of you you're the

00:49:22.560 this is probably one of the most trump supporting audiences in the whole world how many of you think

00:49:28.320 it would be a good idea for the united states no matter how much you love trump how many think it

00:49:33.840 would be a good idea at his age especially to to break the entire system by running again

00:49:41.440 all right look at the comments yeah no no no no no no so why does trump keep teasing it is he just

00:49:51.360 testing the water uh it feels like it sometimes but far more obvious than that is that he's trolling

00:50:00.080 them so every minute that uh tim and bill spend showing videos of me talking about trump maybe maybe

00:50:10.560 being a dictator oh they conflated it they conflated my saying that having the the strong man might be

00:50:17.520 actually good for you they conflated that with me wanting him to have a third term which is the

00:50:23.280 opposite of my opinion right so when you conflate something with its opposite you're not doing anything

00:50:30.720 useful for anybody you're you're just making some content so all of the time that they spent making

00:50:38.000 that video and talking about it followed by all the time that maybe they have to deal with the fact that

00:50:44.320 now they're getting some blowback is all wasted anti-trump time because we don't care we don't

00:50:53.120 care that these two guys honestly believe that trump might want to serve a third term when there's no

00:50:58.640 way that's ever going to happen and then somebody tried to challenge me online and they said all right

00:51:05.040 all right yeah this is paraphrasing too i go all right so so scott uh if you don't think you should have

00:51:11.440 a third term are you going to agree that if he tries to have a third term you're going to fight it

00:51:17.920 and i guess they thought that was a gotcha to which i said yes yes that's exactly what i would do

00:51:25.760 if he tried to have a third term seriously and there's nothing like that happening there's nothing

00:51:31.280 like that happening but if it did happen oh yeah yeah i'd be standing on top of a building screaming

00:51:38.160 do not let this happen because that would be the end of the constitution the end of the whole

00:51:43.040 you know american experiment no no way but do i like it that he trolls them and makes them suck up

00:51:50.880 all their time not talking about anything useful okay i kind of love that kind of love it

00:51:55.920 uh alan walton who's one of the commenters in the comment thread on that topic and he said uh talking

00:52:06.160 about me he said that i said 10 seconds after the clip ended that they would have major problems if

00:52:11.680 trump ran for a third term now if i may defend uh tim miller and bill well tim miller mostly if i may

00:52:21.520 defend him probably somebody sent him the clip probably somebody sent him the clip i doubt he

00:52:29.120 watched the entire clip and then decided to you know leave out the most critical part why because he

00:52:37.200 used to be a republican and like i said he presents himself as a rational person even if i disagree with

00:52:45.360 his views they seem rational and so i don't believe that you know if i'm a reasonably good judge of

00:52:54.240 character do i think that bill crystal would have intentionally left out the clarifier yes i do yes i do

00:53:03.120 i think bill crystal would have intentionally left out the clarifier so that he could do that creepy smile

00:53:09.520 you know that creepy bill crystal smile yeah yeah i think he's gonna he's gonna be hitler and take over

00:53:18.880 um but do i think that tim miller who used to be jeb bush's guy jeb bush also a perfectly reasonable

00:53:26.560 person low energy no just kidding um i don't think he would have personally been okay with clipping off the

00:53:36.080 most important part of the clip i think somebody said it to him and maybe somebody trusted and you

00:53:41.600 went with it we all do that by the way how many times have i shown the clip and then somebody said uh

00:53:48.320 that was from six years ago scott and i go you know and then i slink way to delete it so if you're in

00:53:57.440 this business you make that mistake a lot um and i don't i don't really judge it you know i i'm okay

00:54:06.240 as long as it's done on a platform where the comments can you know add the context it's not

00:54:12.960 a perfect world right it's not a perfect world so i'm not going to say tim miller should never

00:54:18.400 make a mistake on a clip i'm not going to say that i make that same mistake twice a day

00:54:23.920 uh but as long as it can be corrected thank you elon musk with amex platinum access to exclusive

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00:54:50.720 ozarky patrick parish said also in that uh in that thread he said trump is so authoritarian that

00:54:58.720 he can't just open the government up on his authoritarian order but he just he's just

00:55:03.600 authoritarian enough to serve a third term got it right he can't pass a budget by himself he can't

00:55:12.080 put um he can't put the national guard into a city by himself he has to obey the courts and is

00:55:20.000 you know if you wanted to make the argument that he's not an authoritarian you have all you have

00:55:27.440 you have a lot of argument um i use i use the term authoritarian a little different maybe than most

00:55:34.800 people i think when some people say authoritarian they say oh he's doing things for his own benefit

00:55:42.880 right but that's not really in the definition

00:55:45.600 the definition is that the authoritarian has a strong focus on authority what's another word for

00:55:55.200 authority the constitution what's another word for authority the law the law what's another word for

00:56:06.640 authority uh head of the military defending the border so when i see a authoritarian

00:56:15.600 i see somebody who's willing to uh kick every door push every envelope but but if the court says

00:56:24.800 too far he says all right well we'll try something else that's exactly the kind of strong man authoritarian

00:56:32.720 i want i want obey the law obey the constitution you know don't take away my second amendment

00:56:40.320 is that authoritarian because he's certainly strongly backing authority but unless he runs for a third term

00:56:51.920 it's not about him it's really not about him all right

00:56:59.200 um i finally decided to follow a little bit this story about the eight senators whose phone records

00:57:05.040 were monitored not their conversations but the actual who they called and when and how long they talked

00:57:10.960 as part of jack smith's so-called arctic frost investigation so i guess when january 6th was still

00:57:19.120 buzzing jack smith was trying to figure out if trump had planned the insurrection and was he talking to

00:57:26.080 anybody that they could further investigate to find out if there had been conversations about an actual

00:57:31.920 insurrection there had not do you do you think that by now that if there had been any evidence

00:57:39.920 that an insurrection had been planned on january 6th do you think we wouldn't have heard that by now

00:57:46.480 seriously none not a single conversation by anybody who mattered that they were planning an insurrection

00:57:54.880 none not a single one and it is still and how many people were charged with the crime of insurrection

00:58:03.600 none none nobody nobody was even uh what's the word indicted you know how you can get the supreme

00:58:12.880 court to indict a ham sandwich right nobody was even indicted nobody's admitted it there's been no

00:58:20.560 document there's been no whistleblower there's not even been a conversation with any normal person who

00:58:27.200 attended january 6th to say hey do you have a minute could you tell me what your intention was

00:58:34.800 how many of them said our intention is to overthrow the election and put in trump illegally

00:58:40.960 not a single person had that intention well you know it's a big crowd there might have been some

00:58:45.360 crazies there but the general crowd believed that the election had just been stolen right in front of

00:58:51.600 them and were there to make sure there was time to check out their suspicions that's it but anyway

00:58:59.680 during the time back in the day uh jack smith was trying to figure out if he if trump had been talking

00:59:06.960 to anybody that they should find out more information about and that included people like lindsey graham

00:59:13.600 uh josh holey and uh ron johnson and some others that you'd be less familiar with but let me tell you

00:59:22.400 this if you if if what you're doing democrats is pissing off lindsey graham josh holey and uh ron johnson

00:59:34.560 you got some trouble coming

00:59:35.840 you you you you got trouble coming those three guys don't take shit you know maybe the other ones

00:59:43.840 too i just don't i'm less familiar with the other but those three guys no they don't take any shit

00:59:50.080 so so the blowback is going to be pretty fierce and uh and so far lindsey graham has let them have it in public

00:59:56.960 and we only just found this out now legal experts are defending it um because they

01:00:06.400 legally got subpoenas and they stayed within the bounds of the law

01:00:14.160 is that enough i don't know um but they you know eventually the case was dropped but only because

01:00:21.040 trump became president so i'm gonna say that maybe that's not a technical violation of law but boy does

01:00:30.160 it sound bad all right let's talk about health care wall street journal is writing a story about

01:00:37.920 don jr being uh recently put on the board i think in february of a uh company that's trying to sell

01:00:44.720 um pharmaceutical meds mostly mostly but say mostly focusing on generics directly to customers and don

01:00:55.440 john don jr and others are going to be meeting with big pharma people sometime soon and trying to get

01:01:02.240 that all right so uh it's called blink rx and uh they would be competing with uh mark cuban's company

01:01:14.400 that does a similar but there are some differences called cost plus drugs

01:01:21.120 now i went to grok i spent a lot of time on grok today because all the stories needed more context than

01:01:27.120 i can find in the news but uh i wanted to ask you what's the difference between this uh cost plus drugs

01:01:33.840 that mark cuban's already rolled out and blink rx that is in some state of being rolled out i don't know

01:01:40.160 how much wall street journal is writing about that uh in both cases you uh depending on the drug

01:01:48.000 it's not every drug but uh both of them have a emphasis on generics because those are places

01:01:54.720 you can save some money but um apparently uh apparently you can save money on uh even some

01:02:06.560 drugs that have insured copays so in the case of mark cuban's company cost plus drugs um they can

01:02:13.920 sometimes even beat the copay not not just the cost of the drug but if you have insurance and there's

01:02:22.800 a copay they can sometimes beat the entire cost of the copay i don't know how often that happens but

01:02:28.880 that'd be damn impressive anyway um so my point is that they both seem to be in the in the market

01:02:40.000 for cutting out the middleman so that big pharma doesn't have to go through these middleman entities

01:02:46.240 that have you know big big markups etc um so awesome good news so here's some good news

01:02:57.600 the good news is these are serious companies you know one has the clout to bring in all the big

01:03:03.840 pharma ceos and the other one is mark cuban who has all the clout in the world and they're going to be

01:03:11.600 it looks like competing against each other now um i i don't know enough about either company to know

01:03:20.000 what the competitive you know matchup would be yeah but i would encourage you to look into it

01:03:26.160 and it turns out that there's a tool for allowing you to find the low cost way to get your drug and

01:03:33.520 i believe that tool would include both mark cuban's company cost plus drugs as well as this blink rx

01:03:42.960 that don jr is getting involved with so uh the tool is called and there are other ones like it i don't

01:03:49.440 know what they're but good rx so it's all one word good rx so google that if you're looking for a

01:03:58.640 cheaper place to get your drugs especially the generics so the good news is very capable people

01:04:05.680 are competing on a very important topic see this is why we need billionaires do you ever say to

01:04:14.240 yourself uh i wish we could you know get rid of all those billionaires who are distorting the system

01:04:22.000 if you didn't have a billionaire we wouldn't be going to mars we wouldn't have an electric car we

01:04:26.080 wouldn't have a neural link and we wouldn't have a cost plus drugs and we probably wouldn't have a

01:04:30.800 uh whatever this other one is right this is all billionaire stuff you know i i felt a little bit

01:04:40.560 of this when i got a little bit rich you know i'm nowhere near billionaire status of course but even

01:04:46.080 just getting a little bit rich you you automatically feel this weight to do something for the world like

01:04:53.760 payback right so you so that's why i did the dill burrito i tried to make a food that was more nutritious

01:05:00.080 that's why i do a lot of things but um imagine being a billionaire like imagine the pressure you

01:05:06.800 would feel if you didn't feel like you were doing enough for the world and i believe that this is

01:05:13.840 very much drive some of our best innovations i know you can have some complaints about bill gates

01:05:19.520 there's something more complicated going on there and i don't know what it is

01:05:23.360 but if you're looking at you know who is it who's taking the stab at lowering our pharma costs

01:05:30.640 it's some rich people it's rich people anyway rand paul has introduced his own budget reduction plan

01:05:40.480 for the government he wants to cut six cents from every dollar the government spends and he says if

01:05:47.280 we did that we could balance the budget in five years now here's what i like about this first of all i like

01:05:54.960 ran paul in general uh i just love that he's part of congress and i love that he's a noisy part of

01:06:01.520 congress don't always agree with him but that's not really the test the test is not whether i always

01:06:08.720 agree with him the test is is he additive he is additive as hell uh even when he doesn't get his

01:06:15.360 way he always extends the argument he makes you think about it a little bit more clearly he always

01:06:21.520 adds some context and he seems to be always on the side of the public it seems like it i mean i can't read

01:06:30.160 his mind maybe everybody has his secret evil thoughts or something but doesn't look like it

01:06:36.400 it looks like he's literally just on our side now would this work um well he'll never get congress

01:06:43.200 to act on it because we don't have a congress that can do smart hard things they can do smart things

01:06:50.320 sometimes uh they can do hard things other times but they can't seem to put the two of them together

01:06:58.880 that they need to do something that's smart but also hard you know otherwise

01:07:05.120 if they could do that the budget would already be balanced but it's by design they're unable to do

01:07:11.200 that because they will lose their jobs as soon as somebody said well let's do something good for the

01:07:15.920 public uh you know we hate it but we're gonna have to cut these prices or cut these uh expenses they

01:07:23.120 get fired they wouldn't get re-elected so we have a system that by its design can't solve problems that

01:07:30.400 are both smart and hard that's why you need a billionaire occasionally because they can do that

01:07:35.840 what can elon musk do that the government can't do he can solve a problem that's smart and hard

01:07:41.600 and we're watching him do it every day anyway um here's what i love about the way rand paul presented

01:07:50.720 this instead of saying six percent which sometimes could sound like a lot depending on the domain

01:07:59.120 six percent would be a lot if you if you lost six percent in the stock market it'd feel like a lot

01:08:05.360 if you had to pay six percent interest rate on a mortgage it would feel like a lot

01:08:12.480 but what if it's six cents six cents remember i always tell you that if somebody tells you the

01:08:19.840 dollar amount without the percentage or the percentage without the dollar amount it's always

01:08:26.160 propaganda it's at least persuasion so because i like rand paul i'm not going to call this propaganda

01:08:32.560 i'll call it persuasion it's kind of clever to call it a six cents doesn't that sound like less

01:08:39.280 less six percent feels like it reminds you of other six percent things that would be too expensive

01:08:48.640 but if somebody said uh uh here you can buy this item whatever it is it wouldn't matter if it's a

01:08:53.840 piece of candy or an automobile if they said it's six cents you would say oh you mean like nothing

01:09:01.680 i mean like it's basically zero

01:09:05.760 so it's a very clever way to um to put it i don't think you'll get support in congress

01:09:10.880 all right did i tell you that today's news is all fun okay if you haven't seen pam bondy

01:09:22.000 testifying before congress i guess yesterday and responding to adam schiff and then to richard blumenthal

01:09:29.840 do yourself a treat now i don't know that this is true i'm going to add a little speculation here

01:09:39.280 but i think it's true it looks to me like the top administration people have decided that if they

01:09:46.000 have to testify in front of uh pencil neck adam schiff that they're not going to be take any of it

01:09:52.960 seriously and they're going to spend the entire time that schiff has insulting him personally and

01:09:59.120 never stopping never answering the question just insulting him personally while it's on cnn and msnbc

01:10:07.840 until he runs out of time and pam bondy did that to both adam schiff and then a little bit less

01:10:15.600 but also some to richard blumenthal and i thought to myself as long as she's only doing it

01:10:22.720 to the designated liars you know your swall wells your shifts your your raskins you know and i think

01:10:30.320 i'd throw blumenthal on there too as long as she's only doing it to the bad players please do more of

01:10:37.040 this i i want to see this all day long i want cnn to say you know we're not even going to bother

01:10:43.520 covering it because all it is going to be is pam bondy screaming insults over adam schiff begging for

01:10:52.160 to get his time back i loved it i i did not think that there would be any meaningful way you could

01:11:01.360 respond to being sat in front of the tv cameras and then allowing the politician to say i demand my time

01:11:09.760 back so i can insult you is it true that you ran over a child well no i didn't it's my time it's my time

01:11:16.720 but i didn't really run over a child shut up it's my time it's my time and then just say a bunch more

01:11:23.680 bullshit i can't put up with that for another minute but watching pam bondy literally just sitting there

01:11:31.760 trying to think of new insults and then yelling your insults so you couldn't ignore them oh my god i

01:11:39.360 loved it i loved it it's like it's it's like uh scott jennings on uh on steroids or something

01:11:48.880 you know how much we like scott jennings because he always has that you know calm measured you know

01:11:56.000 well thought out response to the craziness but see but seeing somebody who is a smart you know thinking

01:12:04.400 person you know high level executive very serious made it to the you know highest levels of government

01:12:11.200 seeing that person realize that the situation itself is so absurd that the funniest thing she can do is

01:12:19.520 just insult him to his face on tv for as long as she can get away with it a plus pam bondy i've never

01:12:27.920 loved you more that was just a plus more please i don't know if anybody else will be able to match

01:12:35.680 that that was just really good work well the illinois uh it looks like oh texas national guard has arrived

01:12:47.280 in a training camp i guess in illinois and they will be deployed soon but again the news is all funny

01:12:55.600 so there's a photograph abc ran it on on axe of the uh supposed texas national guard troops getting off

01:13:04.000 a truck in illinois and if you haven't seen the picture you really have to because they're all

01:13:09.840 they're all obese now i don't know if all national guard people in texas are obese but there were like

01:13:18.400 six of them in the front of the picture who were clearly obese you know all decked out in their

01:13:23.920 their military outfits and uh i just thought to myself uh paging p hegseth p hegseth uh could you

01:13:33.440 show up and maybe uh lead some lead some jumping jacks i can't believe that that picture got released

01:13:44.080 they look so not ready for war but luckily it's not a war

01:13:49.120 anyway um all right let me talk about uh the persuasion view on uh all the sending the national

01:14:00.560 garden to cities all right so there are two ways to look at this so that there are definitely two sides

01:14:06.560 of this on one hand it does look quote authoritarian for the federal government to be sending in troops to

01:14:15.120 cities would you agree now i mean you don't have to you don't have to disagree with sending the troops

01:14:22.640 i'm just asking you a very narrow question would you not agree that if the democrats are trying to

01:14:28.160 create this authoritarian rap on trump they're sending uh uniformed officers and especially people with

01:14:36.720 masks on and stuff it plays it plays into their um into their model right now that doesn't mean you

01:14:44.560 shouldn't do it don't get me wrong doesn't mean you shouldn't do it but i often refer to trump as what

01:14:51.440 i call an against the president meaning that damn he's getting stuff done but he's gonna leave a little

01:14:59.520 breakage because it's usually the only way he can get anything done so this is in the category of a

01:15:06.160 little bit of breakage because it gives them something to focus on oh the authoritarian authoritarian

01:15:12.240 and it works a little bit i would say it works i would say they've convinced their base

01:15:20.400 quite a bit of it that oh this is authoritarian it's the next step before hitler comes in right

01:15:26.800 so on one hand uh it supports their fake messaging about authoritarian and it also supports their fake

01:15:34.800 paid protests which apparently are going to happen today so you'll see some more fake

01:15:40.160 paid performers uh protesting so that all fits into the democrat model a little bit and if there was

01:15:48.320 nothing else to say it would look like democrats are winning on this topic wing politically

01:15:56.240 but let me give you the other side which is more with less obvious

01:16:00.400 less so the the less obvious part is the fun part so on the pro trump side of this argument persuasion

01:16:08.640 wise the imagery um is telling us that democrat leaders have left you to die have left you to die

01:16:18.240 at the hands of criminals and cartel members and the only person who's trying to save your freaking life

01:16:24.880 is trump with the national guard so trump has the um the strong imagery of sending in the the cavalry

01:16:37.200 sending in the rescue squad so if he can frame this successfully and it sounds you know based on

01:16:43.600 rasmussen it sounds like he has he if he can frame this as saving the the poor downtrodden especially low

01:16:51.680 income and almost always minority population if he can say i'm sending these people in to save you

01:17:00.000 because your leaders have left you to die at the hands of criminals and cartels let me say that sentence

01:17:07.680 again i'm sending in the the national guard because your local leaders have left you to die

01:17:14.400 at the hands of the criminals and the cartels now is that exactly true have they left you to die well

01:17:22.240 no i mean they have police and it's certainly not their intention for you to die but feel how strong that is

01:17:32.640 your leaders are leaving you to die i'm sending somebody to save your life

01:17:37.520 do you feel that now remember i was mentioning earlier dr carmen simon and her and her experiments

01:17:46.800 where she can put sensors on your body and find out how you're responding to different messages

01:17:52.880 how do you think you would respond to that message your leaders are leaving you to die

01:17:58.560 at the hands of criminals and cartels i'm sending in the military to stop them

01:18:04.320 i feel like that's just a dead winner i shouldn't say dead but um i believe that trump has once again

01:18:16.000 correctly read the room i believe that when people answer polls they answer it with words

01:18:24.800 in other words they they've got a point of view that matches their team and that's been put into words

01:18:30.560 by other people and then if you're asked your opinion you'll look at the words and you'll you'll say

01:18:36.400 what words do i have that you know is the answer to that opinion but you'll be you'll be dealing on

01:18:41.120 the word level also known as the policy level the word level trump is dealing on the stay alive level stay

01:18:52.160 live live don't be stabbed by a bad guy are those similar do you think the people who are dealing

01:19:03.120 on the word level even though those words do play through into polls which would make it look like it's

01:19:09.920 a closer a closer debate than it really is on the visceral physical level

01:19:16.880 well this is a blowout it's an absolute blowout but it won't be until after it works that 80 percent

01:19:28.080 of the country will see it was a blowout but you can't beat i'm going to keep you alive

01:19:36.160 you can't beat that how do you beat that and by the way it's close enough to true because everybody

01:19:43.680 feels that you know the impact of crime everybody feels it um so it hits exactly what you're thinking

01:19:51.040 and feeling in the strongest possible way uh so i think uh trump's got the uh the leverage as we say

01:20:00.640 here's something else trump said being funny uh he was talking to uh carney from canada and uh

01:20:09.680 uh separately he said that democrats have no leader they remind me of somalia okay that's just so

01:20:16.480 perfect they remind me of somalia how am i not going to quote that i mean seriously democrats have

01:20:25.360 no leader they remind me of somalia if you take out the somalia part would i quote it no of course i

01:20:32.720 wouldn't it would just be sort of an ordinary statement you know i say it you say it we all say they

01:20:38.640 don't have a leader the news says it wouldn't be anything but as soon as he adds they reminded me

01:20:44.000 of somalia part of your brain goes and then it like it burrows in and it uh persuasion wise it

01:20:55.840 becomes an association that you can't lose will i ever forget ever for the rest of my life will i ever

01:21:04.320 forget that trump compared the democrats with no leaders to somalia oh i won't forget that for the

01:21:11.680 rest of my life well the rest of my life might not be that long but uh the rest of you you might

01:21:17.360 remember it too and then he had another witticism you had to see this one to see uh how well he pulled

01:21:25.600 it off but that uh so mark carney is sitting in that uh official chair that the leaders always sit

01:21:32.320 in next to the president you know so the two of them are facing out on these chairs fox news is

01:21:38.640 reporting on this um so mark carney is talking and then the the part that's hard to explain unless you

01:21:45.600 see the video which is worth seeing uh is that trump interrupted them all right so it's it's hard to tell

01:21:51.600 a story with an interruption in it but he interrupted uh and so mark carney who starts out by saying uh

01:21:58.800 this is in many respects the most important trump interrupts him and he finishes his sentence with

01:22:05.520 the merger of canada and the united states

01:22:09.840 so carney laughed like genuinely laughs and you know he said no no not that the uh the people attending

01:22:19.760 all laughed they all laughed and you know how people always say that trump never laughs he was

01:22:27.120 totally laughing like he doesn't do ha ha ha you know he doesn't laugh like i do but he was laughing

01:22:35.040 he had a smile wrapped around his face he knew he pulled it off so yeah he was happy i'm sure but

01:22:42.240 uh um i don't know if i told you this story but it reminds me of uh of a joke i'd heard from jared

01:22:52.640 and i wondered i wondered if there's any influence there that that with jokes there are only about a hundred

01:22:59.440 jokes in the world and everything else is just changed in the names of the people in the joke

01:23:04.560 so it makes me wonder if uh if trump had exposed this i may have told this story before but i'll tell

01:23:11.040 it again so in 2018 when i was invited to meet with trump just because it was summer and he was

01:23:17.680 he was in meeting with some supporters and nothing important and i was waiting in the outer the waiting

01:23:23.840 area to be allowed into the oval office and uh jared comes walking by through the outer office on the

01:23:30.640 way to work and uh he was with another gentleman and i guess he recognized me from i don't know

01:23:37.440 probably the podcast and so he so he makes a point to stop and introduce himself and but of course he

01:23:45.600 introduces the person that he's with as well uh so he introduces himself and he says this is so and so

01:23:51.920 he's the finance minister of mexico and he's here to pay for the wall now the finance minister belly

01:24:00.160 laughs jared laughs i belly laugh because it was a great line like the the humor depends not just how

01:24:09.600 clever you are but where you say it and in front of whom if you do the right joke in the right audience

01:24:18.000 in the right time it's magic and that that was kind of magic it was just brilliant but does that remind

01:24:24.560 you of uh a little bit of uh trump's joke to to try to infer that uh you know your your other party from

01:24:34.640 the other country is totally on board but you're just joking about it now is trump also serious about

01:24:44.560 the possibility of merging with canada i say yes i would say yes it's not the worst idea in the world

01:24:51.520 uh i think it would be hugely difficult and it would be you know it would come with its own risks and

01:24:59.680 everything else but i i think

01:25:08.880 sorry cats and keyboards are a bad combination

01:25:14.160 um but i think that turning that into a joke and then turning his relationship with

01:25:22.000 from very contentious into two dudes joking is brilliant it's one of the things that

01:25:30.400 trump does better than anybody if you are doing what he likes he's going to go at you as hard as

01:25:36.240 anybody can go i talk about this all the time it's great persuasion if you don't do what he likes he

01:25:41.360 goes after you hard you if you're at the moment doing things he likes and i guess he was getting along

01:25:48.240 with canada at the moment you know he makes a joke he slaps him on the leg they have a laugh now he's

01:25:54.080 his best friend and and he he praised carney like more than more than i've seen him praise other people

01:26:01.840 i mean he genuinely he genuinely seems to respect carney's you know judgment and and skill so that's all

01:26:11.280 good news for us and canada we'll see where that goes meanwhile over in hungary they're passing a

01:26:18.880 lifetime tax exemption to mothers of three so if you have three kids you just don't pay taxes

01:26:25.760 no what do you think of that idea is there anything missing in that story what is it that's

01:26:32.800 obviously missing in this story and i had to go to grok to get the context

01:26:39.280 well the obvious thing that's missing is what is the base tax rate in hungary to begin with

01:26:47.680 if the tax rate was one percent it's nothing if the tax rate was like america you know up to 50 percent

01:26:58.080 oh my god i mean that would be gigantic policy turns out that hungary according to grok uh their tax rate

01:27:06.880 is uh 15 for just everything income investments just 15 15 so it's a lot easier to go from one five

01:27:20.880 down to zero for a special class of people mothers who are adding to the economy that's a lot easier than

01:27:29.120 going from rich people paying 50 percent um to well we'll let you get away with none how about none you

01:27:36.000 just have an extra kid do you do you know how fast i would have three children if it meant i paid no

01:27:42.480 taxes it would take me uh nine months if i could pay no taxes in the united states because remember

01:27:53.200 i pay half of my income in taxes if i can take that to zero i could find three women wait

01:28:02.560 no it wouldn't work with three women you'd have to have one woman with three babies okay it would take

01:28:09.040 me 27 months plus a little uh recovery time well yeah i i would have i would have three kids i didn't

01:28:18.640 plan on having to save a gigantic amount of money yeah as long as i didn't have to be too active in the

01:28:25.600 raising of them i'm not good at that um and i won't last long but you know lots of reasons

01:28:35.840 all right uh i know i'm going super long do you mind i can go a little bit longer okay

01:28:44.880 i'm having so much fun today you don't have to listen to it all

01:28:47.680 all right uh there was some rumors about charlie kirk sending some text messages that were kind of

01:28:54.720 negative on his view of how much bullying he was getting from pro-israel sources some people didn't

01:29:03.520 think that was necessarily a real text and might have been fake but apparently that's been confirmed

01:29:09.520 that it's real so one of the tp usa guys guys i think confirmed it so candace owens had it and here's

01:29:18.480 what the message said um so charlie kirk said in the message i think it was a group message

01:29:27.440 um just lost another huge jewish donor two million a year because we won't cancel tucker

01:29:33.120 uh for the tp usa event and then he says uh i'm thinking of inviting candace now those are connected

01:29:43.840 thoughts because uh both tucker and candace are accused of being uh anti-israel so if he got

01:29:53.600 if he lost two million dollars because he won't cancel tucker yeah it looks like he was going to double

01:29:59.120 down and invite candace and sort of a big f you to the people bullying him so then one some other

01:30:06.880 member uh didn't like that i guess and then charlie went on to explain uh jewish donors play into all

01:30:16.720 the stereotypes okay that's probably something you don't want to say in public um and then it says i

01:30:23.840 cannot and will not be bullied like this now let me explain he's not saying all jewish people are like

01:30:32.880 the stereotypes he's saying that the jewish donors the ones he's dealing with are acting like the worst

01:30:41.200 stereotypes i probably wouldn't have said that that that feels like a little unnecessarily provocative

01:30:49.760 but also probably completely accurate meaning that he dealt with these donors i didn't i have no reason

01:30:56.880 to think he's a liar so if he says my honest my honest reaction to this is why are you acting like the

01:31:03.040 worst stereotypes and i'm i'm out seems fair um and then he says quote leaving me no choice but to leave the

01:31:15.280 pro-israel cause

01:31:21.520 wow so now the accusations um which i do not believe let me let me say it front and then i'll say it one

01:31:31.200 more one one more time when i'm done i don't think israel put a hit on charlie kirk i do not think

01:31:39.840 there's any chance that israel put on a hit on charlie kirk there was a reason

01:31:47.520 they had a good reason because if charlie kirk turned against israel he did have enough clout in

01:31:55.600 the united states and the united states is vital i believe israel would say to their survival

01:32:01.920 they would feel an existential threat by the fact that he said directly i'm going to leave the pro-israel

01:32:09.040 cause did they had did israel have a an incentive to murder him yes yes let me say it again i do not

01:32:20.880 believe israel had anything to do with killing him here's why the bigger existential threat would

01:32:28.640 be caught doing it and we always catch everybody we're in a world where you kind of do catch

01:32:35.200 everybody if you care enough do you think that netanyahu as smart as he is strategically and even

01:32:42.240 if you hate him even if you think he's a monster he is a genius like actual like the literal kind of

01:32:50.320 genius strategically genius um again i don't agree with everything he does that's not the point but

01:32:58.960 do you think somebody as smart as netanyahu would take any chance of permanently ruining the u.s as an

01:33:07.440 ally and and i think the chance would be at the very least 25 percent like even if even if mosad came

01:33:17.360 to him and said look we got a plan to take out this critic and it's really important to israel that we

01:33:23.680 do take him out but um i think we can get the risk down to 25 percent of getting caught you think he'd

01:33:31.360 take that nope nope not a smart person no smart person in the world would take that how about and

01:33:39.760 especially let's add to the fact that they knew each other they knew each other how hard is it to do a

01:33:45.680 hit on somebody you know personally that's got to be pretty hard i mean you have to be pretty cold

01:33:51.120 to do that i'm sure leaders do it but it's pretty tough so if you look at it from the point of view

01:33:58.400 that netanyahu is not a moron there's no chance that they there's no chance that he would have greenlit

01:34:04.960 this and there's no chance that massad would have done it on their own so i'm going to say again

01:34:11.440 there's no chance in my opinion that israel was involved in a hit on a beloved american person

01:34:20.880 who if they got caught even one or two percent chance of getting caught is the end of israel

01:34:28.960 i mean that wouldn't just be a hard week i mean that could very well be the end of israel

01:34:36.000 um if they pissed us off that much and got caught i mean it's not like we don't have contentious

01:34:45.120 things and they spy on us i'm sure we spy on them they they try to bully us we try to bully them back

01:34:52.240 i mean that uh that stuff seems more like normal countries you know pursuing what's good for their

01:34:58.960 country i don't hate all that it's more like the the give and take you expect but if they had if they

01:35:06.000 had and they didn't in my opinion they didn't but if they had biggest mistake israel would have ever

01:35:13.600 made in its entire history bar none so no i don't think they would do that well and finally an update

01:35:21.120 on the what i call the robot energy war you call it the ukraine russia war but it's really now robots

01:35:27.680 fighting energy resources and allegedly now this is according to pravda so we can't automatically

01:35:36.080 trust it but they say that a ukrainian drone hit a cooling tower a nuclear power plant cooling tower

01:35:42.400 in the in the city of nova nova rosa i think i nailed it nova rosa rosa rosa

01:35:53.840 so so put a hole in the cooling tower but we don't see any

01:35:59.120 bad stuff escaping yet but it might do you think that uh

01:36:06.000 do you think that ukraine would attack a cooling tower on a nuclear i feel like that would be

01:36:12.080 a mistake because if they if they declare open war on nuclear facilities in russia

01:36:19.680 russia is going to take out all the nuclear facilities in ukraine

01:36:24.640 but if they take out the energy resources the other energy resources like oil and gas

01:36:30.320 they might be able to take out enough of that that russia gets flexible about peace

01:36:35.920 before they've destroyed 100 of the energy in ukraine so maybe that's the bet i don't know so

01:36:43.120 it feels like there's at least some possibility that was a mistake or maybe fake news could be

01:36:49.520 fake news but it also could just be a mistake it'd be a weird mistake i mean hard to imagine it would

01:36:56.400 be a mistake all right that's all i have for today um i'm not going to say anything to the locals

01:37:02.400 people today i got a had a good chat with them before the show um so i'm just going to end

01:37:07.120 because we ran late thank you everybody for staying so long i hope you had as much fun as i did this is

01:37:13.920 one of the most fun i've ever had doing the uh podcast and uh we'll see you again tomorrow same

01:37:19.120 same time same place

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