Episode 3053 CWSA 12⧸25⧸25
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about the importance of audits and why they are more important than ever before in our fiscal health. We also hear about a story about a relative who was late for christmas because of a family emergency, and the story of how the U.S. Census Bureau got it wrong about the number of people in the country.
Transcript
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merry christmas everybody come on in come on in we're gonna hang out a little bit
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just in case your christmas needed a little extra or in case you were hanging out by yourself
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you don't have to you can hang out with us let me make sure i can see your locals comments
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yes i can excellent excellent go on in we will do the special christmas simultaneous sip
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just as soon as oops quiet just as soon as enough of you get in here
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how many of you assumed i would be wearing a christmas hat i'll bet unpredictable
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the wise men have come send them in my house i need some wise men very wise
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oh good morning good morning all right are you ready for the simultaneous sip
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all you need is a copper muggera glass tankard chalice or sign a canteen jug of less a vessel
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of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled
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pleasure the dopamine to the day the thing that makes everything better it's called the simultaneous
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i could so what do you want to do this morning do you want to hear about some interesting stories
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do you want to open your packages and act like um the relative that came late for christmas
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maybe i'll say some things that make it seem like i'm in the room
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fake acting well i guess acting is fake i'm going to do some acting so it seems like i'm just in a room
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with you okay oh wow was that yours did you just open that up that's a that's a really thoughtful gift
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who gave you that uh no wonder yep that that's a good gift giver and what did you give back
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i'm sorry i'll shut up hey what time do we eat does anybody know what time we eat
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oh god oh no i was hoping that relative wouldn't come oh who invited that one oh my goodness oh
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everything looked good until that one relative started coming up the driveway but shh we'll just
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pretend that we don't know who drank all the eggnog yeah hey people where's all the eggnog
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all right how was that does that feel like i was in your living room just bugging you when you're
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opening your packages all right well let me give a special shout out today to one of our members who
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makes clips of my show and does a really really good job of it so good that president trump yesterday
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reposted it on truth so my uh i'm talking about jay plemons if you're now following him you should
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on x because he does these most excellent um clips he's really good at figuring out what is a good clip
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and also you know adding the text and the other features to make it a to make it a really good clip
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so apparently he did so well that the president of the united states said huh i think he'll repost that
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so congratulations jay plemons that must be an excellent uh christmas gift doesn't it
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that must have made you so excited i hope you were telling all your family
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well gosh i'm not even sure i feel like talking about the uh the news i've got notes but it might be
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like that boring uncle who doesn't have doesn't have any conversation skills so they just talk about
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what's in the news that would be me but did you know this is an old story but i'm gonna tie it into
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something did you know that the census uh was error prone and those errors tended not completely but
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they tended to lean in one direction which is to undercount conservatives and overcount democrats
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and the result is that democrats got more seats in the house because the census said there are more
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people uh than there were now here's why i brought it up the reason that we know this
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is because the census bureau did an audit of their own process so it's not an accusation
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it's what the audit people say themselves they say that it changed the uh representative
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sample not a sample but it changed who's representing who and that it went in one direction
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on average but what i caught here is the word audit you know i posted the other day that audit would be the
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word of 2025 and boy is it if you start noticing how often the word audit is going to pop up in all the
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stories because there's so many stories about fraud and the only way you get a cash room is with an audit
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well it's not the only way but be the main way you do it so i predict that the public
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is going to learn the importance of audits in a way that they had not before quite appreciated
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and if the public starts asking for audits and demanding them then the politicians will have to
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you know they'll have to fold to that so probably the single most important thing we could do
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for our fiscal health is to make sure there's always an audit in place like a real one
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uh for everything that has a lot of money involved could it be that the the attention that we're
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putting in that word and by the way if it wasn't obvious um you know when i turned on my persuasion
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skills which i don't always do it's because there's some big gain you know i don't do it just to see if
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i can do it um i use my persuasion when i think there's some gigantic thing we can get out of
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it and one of the things i'm going to persuade more and more over the next year is the importance of
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audits i know boring right but if we don't get that right everything falls apart so
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did you watch a any of the joe rogan interview recently with brett weinstein weinstein brett weinstein
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and they were talking about aliens and uaps and ancient civilizations well it sounded like joe rogan
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is on the similar path that i've been on which is there was one time in my past i thought you know
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maybe maybe there's some ufos you know maybe there's some aliens they're visiting
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but more recently i ruled that out in favor of the hypothesis that if anything is happening at all
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you know in other words if these sightings are at all real that the uh the source of them
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would be our own past so it might be ancient ancient uh aliens who live beneath the ocean it might be
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some kind of ripple across time from a time when there were aliens with an advanced civilization on
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earth but it sounded like joe and i'm not so sure about brett but satellite joe has gone from these
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might be space aliens to the odds of because rogan always has these experts on ancient civilizations to
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me it now seems obvious i would say 100 obvious that there were advanced civilizations that we don't
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know much about and that it can't be a coincidence that we've got these giant megalithic structures
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not in one place but basically in a variety of places around the world and we don't know how to make
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them well maybe we could with modern equipment but the fact that none of those cultures retained the
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ability to make those structures it kind of suggests they found them doesn't it so i'm now of the of the
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working hypothesis that i think matches joe rogan's i'm not positive but i do believe that these are
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shadows from the past and i think somebody smarter said maybe it was joe that uh no somebody else
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somebody said that the reason that these sightings seem to defy uh physics is that they're not part of
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our reality that they might be some kind of a ripple or a bleed through or a temporal distortion
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i have no idea what i'm talking about but that that they're literally not part of our reality
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it's just something we can temporarily see and there's the reason is there was something from the
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comics ontario oh uh palmer lucky who's the head of end rule was asked about aliens and i believe he had
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a very similar take so if your take ever matches palmer lucky's you're lucky because he's one of the
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smartest people in the world so remember elon musk has said if there were space aliens he would probably
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know about it but he doesn't know about it and now another genius palmer lucky is also fairly sure that
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we can rule out a space aliens but it might be something from the past some advanced civilization and
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it could be that there wasn't just one it could be that there were dozens of advanced civilizations that
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didn't make it which is a little bit scary if you happen to be an advanced civilization so i don't know
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about dozens but i'll bet you if there's one i'll bet you there's multiple what do you think
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and that maybe it's just buried so deep in the sediment that we'll never know but i'm pretty sure
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there were some advanced civilizations and then i never heard this before but this is also on rogan
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show did you know that in peru they found these little creatures with three three fingers and three
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toes that looked like they really were aliens but probably not aliens from space again
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more more likely some advanced civilization that was here i'm not sure i believe in the aliens yet
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or or just the creatures i'm not sure i believe the creatures are real but it's fascinating
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so here's where i'm going to tie this into something now so you know elon is building the
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encyclopedia galactica which at the moment is named grokopedia but he said he'll change the name
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to uh encyclopedia galactic i think and his plan is to create a repository of everything we know
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and to not only have that available to everyone on earth for free i guess but he would put some copies
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in space so there would be a library in space forever maybe a library on the moon
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forever maybe one that just floats around the earth in orbit or wherever he can put it so his plan
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would be if if humans got wiped out there's some future civilization which might be the you know the
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remaining remnants of of uh of humans they would somehow be able to recover the lost knowledge now
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that's a heck of a good idea but it raises this possibility what if the earlier civilizations did the
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same thing what if they found a way to protect everything they knew but they didn't find a way
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to protect themselves because it would be easier to launch something into space than it would be to
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you know put a shield around the whole earth assuming some comet was heading this way or something so
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is it possible that we will someday discover not just that there used to be a advanced civilization
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but that they saved all of their knowledge that we could unlock it what do you think
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i i think that's entirely possible because if elon thought of the idea of preserving knowledge
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what are the what are the odds of an entire prior civilization didn't have anybody who had that idea
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right and if it's doable it's not yet been done but yeah pretty close if it's doable what are the odds
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it was doable before think about it now that's a good that's a good christmas conversation isn't it
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uh even palmer lucky backed me up backed me up and what
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i do not i do not know all right um speaking of musk and ai he says that the uh the ai that he runs
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this is his prediction will have more ai compute than everyone else combined in less than five years do you
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believe that that the elon musk ai called xai will have more compute than all the other sources combined in five years
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so we're also right at the verge of the self-driving cars being completely self-driving
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what would it take i asked this morning what would it take to turn your self-driving car into a classroom
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so suppose you had to commute you know an hour each way but you didn't have to do the driving
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could you have a 45-minute class you know assuming there's nobody else in the in the vehicle that just
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teaches you some kind of a skill and every day you get in it says oh hi scott would you like to
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continue your physics lesson now i saw somebody push back on that and say scott scott
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people are not going to want to learn from machines you need a human being to teach people
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otherwise they just they're not going to be feeling it to which i say it's going to look like a human
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being you know your screen is going to be somebody who is a deep fake who looks exactly like a human
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looks at acts so you might have like professor feinman teaching you physics and you would absolutely
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not know the difference you just wouldn't be able to tell and they would be able to customize your lesson
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uh completely so i think um at the moment we might be in a place where the ai is not as good as the best
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teacher how long does that get last you know once it looks like a human and once it's way better at
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learning how to teach and once it's more customized to you specifically which might be the big part
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it would be way better and you would probably enjoy it so i think uh and then i said that and then
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somebody pointed me to a link did you know that el salvador has announced a partnership with xai
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to build a public education program around ai so they're going to use grok as a personalized digital
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tutor remember this is el salvador so el salvador is weirdly forward thinking you know they're well
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managed and that they're going to gradually roll down over two years and it will just be you know fully
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accredited and uh and their their leader bukele said that using xai for their education will be a way
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to quote leapfrog traditional education so that el salvador can have the best education system in the
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world in just a couple years all they have to do is go first and they're going first so bukele very smart
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so if you want a good free education go to el salvador so that made me wonder how many things are going
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to go to to the price of free so in the united states we still got this accreditation fetish which
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apparently has been solved for el salvador but um don't you think we're very close
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to an advanced education the very best advanced education costing you literally nothing
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so instead of paying 70 70 000 a year for an elite college you could pay zero
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do it at your own pace and it would be not just as good but way way better than a traditional education
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so so as i'm watching with interest uh elon musk's idea that eventually everything will be free
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um there are definitely things that are going to go first and if we can get rid of the uh let's say the
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roadblocks in the united states which would be teachers unions and accreditation and
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inertia so if we can get to where you know el salvador is education would be free but the best part
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about it is if you've ever had kids in the public school system how many of you have had kids
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recently in the public school system and you don't know nightmare it is right
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it seems to me that if you put your nice kid in an environment where everybody can go you know it's a
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public place they will be bullied uh beyond repair so the damage that's done by going to a public school
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it's really pretty high so there's damage to the family unit because they over they over homework
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there's a damage to their mental health you can make all of that go away
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and make you free and we're we basically have the technology to do it already so people don't
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realize the horror and the torture that they put kids through in public school if you haven't if you
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haven't observed it personally you would never believe how bad it is so education could go to zero
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quickly but i've also said that car insurance could go to zero because once once your self-driving car
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has basically no accidents there's always gonna be tough then then the car maker can just add
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insurance forever to the purchase price of the car so for an extra thousand dollars purchase price
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the car maker will cover all your insurance in case you have an accident for the rest of the life of the
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car so that won't be free but if you compare a one-time thousand dollar cost over the ownership of the car
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is close to free then somebody mentioned that uh optimus the you know optimus yeah the the robot will
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soon be able to do child care i thought to myself all right if you compared a human
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to a robot today for child care you would probably pick the human right but because the humans who do
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child care are not maybe not as trustworthy as they could be maybe you couldn't watch what they're doing as
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easily as you could if a robot was working for you and you could just ask the robot what's going on
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i feel like child care is going to go to the robots really quickly which would make the cost of it
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you know drop dramatically for example if you already had a robot to clean your house or do ordinary things
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you could say all right robot for these work hours you're going to be doing child care because the
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robot doesn't need to rest so as long as you have a robot it can do child care now imagine if somebody
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broke into your home and tried to you know do something bad to you or your home who would you rather
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defend it a traditional child care person or a badass robot i think it would be better security
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it would be less likely to molest your child and it's just going to be better in every way
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very very quickly and it can do multiple people so your neighbors kids could come over and one robot
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takes care of you and so your kid is not lonely but you'd have to choose carefully then what about
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security we're very close to the point where the robots could give you security better than humans
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partly because you couldn't afford a human partly because you need three humans a day just to cover the
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24 hours and partly because the robot probably will be stronger and have you know better decision making etc
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so that's at least four things that could almost immediately drop to
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no cost at all so i'm not sold entirely on the idea that that money will be worthless
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but there sure will be a lot of times when that money is not going to look like uh like it used to
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so here's a wild uh prediction speaking of elon musk so i've actually predicted this
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that there will be double digit growth meaning the gdp within 12 to 18 months
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it's double digit now why that's ridiculous but might be right is that we were all cheering that
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the gdp went from three five to four five roughly so we got all excited because it was over four percent
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elon says it's gonna be you know over ten percent within a year maybe a year and a half
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do you believe that his reasoning is this he says if applied intelligence and that would be ai
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and robots you know used intelligently is a proxy for economic growth which it should be he says
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triple digit is possible in less than five years triple digit so now he's going from ten percent a year
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to over a hundred percent a year if you can do that does money become worthless i don't know i'm having a
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little bit of trouble intellectually following the argument but it's a fun one now the caution is this i
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believe i think musk actually said this but i'm not sure uh i believe he is intentionally moving toward a
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uh optimistic take on everything because you know he's he's so well uh watched that if he has optimism
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his optimism will spread and become a positive thing and this could be just some of that it could be that
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he's just being so optimistic that he knows that's a good idea for society it's better to be over
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optimistic in this at least in this domain than it would be to be a pessimist so i don't know how
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100 accurate this is to his opinion but it certainly would uh it would meet the target
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of being optimistic so just to be a uh just to put a wet blanket on this uh mark cuban today
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was posting that uh he said i agree we're talking about robot tax uh not not we but on x and uh mark
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cuban posted i agree we need we need to start discussing now what a robot tax would look like
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like a straight amount per hour of use per robot or cobot doesn't matter what the shape or form is
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and start coming up with responses to the inevitable quote we won't be able to compete
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economically with other countries robots so of course people will say hey you can't put a tax on
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my robot china will get ahead um he says every country will face the prospect of national instability
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if the economics get out of whack which is far more expensive than what you were paying in taxes on
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your robots now i reposted this but that doesn't mean i agree with it so i would say i'm early in the
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process of thinking about it on one hand if musk is right that money will become worthless very quickly
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then talk of taxing doesn't make sense just why tax money doesn't isn't worth anything but there should be
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some interim period in which money is worth something and we need more of it so it does seem to me that it
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would be unavoidable for the government to put some kind of tax on it and the theory would be hey if you're
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really increasing your productivity by triple digits are you telling me that doesn't create any extra money
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money for paying down our debt and with a little bit of tax because the domain would be enormous so
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you wouldn't have to tax it 50 percent per robot maybe i'm just going to take a swing maybe five percent
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tax per the value of each robot something like that uh would that be enough to pay down the debt
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or at least get us out of an emergency situation with the debt while we wait for the day when money is
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worthless so there's there's the the interim transitionary part that's a little vague how
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that's going to work if it works at all but i do agree with him that there's going to be a conversation
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i hate using that term but but we do need to get serious about thinking uh will robots be taxed
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i i tend to agree with him that if we taxed our robots a little bit it wouldn't put us behind
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compared to say china if we overtax them yeah then of course right so there's probably some number
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that doesn't hurt you at all in the same way that the tariffs didn't hurt us like we thought they
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would economics is so unpredictable that it's really hard to know uh if and when a tax on robots
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makes sense you know your common sense might not be up to the task i feel that's in my case i feel like
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my common sense which usually works pretty well you know not that there is common sense but i don't know
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all right in other news i think we're ready for a sip
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all right i'm just going to rest and uh look at your comments for a minute
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so i guess trump wants the uh the vaccine schedule for childhood to be totally changed
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from 72 doses when the kids born basically all the way down to 11. so that would be similar to
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denmark what do you think of that is that a good idea i don't know i'm no doctor
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but people are definitely worried about loading up little babies with too much vaccinations in the
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beginning so it seems like there's at least a good argument for stretching amount and if we can look
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to denmark as our model of what works and what doesn't well maybe that's a little bit safer so i
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don't have an opinion on this um i will default to people who are much smarter i'll just note that it's
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happening well the company called grok with a q on the end instead of the k at the end which i believe
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is one of uh chamas companies uh from the allen pod i think he was key investor in that um apparently
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they've got some kind of deal uh i heard yesterday that they sold the company
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company but maybe it's just a working deal so they've got some kind of ai inference technology
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that uh open ai was interested in so it looks like a big win for chamath chamath
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congratulations that's a very big win uh somebody said something like four billion dollars
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i don't know what the real numbers are but they're big numbers so he's been busting his butt on this
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startup and uh wow wow that's very impressive good work chamath
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um i saw a quote today from a writer from blaze media that i really liked so jt young writing from
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blaze media um said democrats caused the affordability crisis with their progressive policies and now
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pretend to be shocked by it but here's the fun part uh
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democrats are now left with a single strategy campaigning on the consequences of their own
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incompetence and hoping voters forget who caused them that is such a good reframe
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um so the democrats are only the only thing they have is affordability and they're the ones who caused
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the problem and it's unlikely they have a solution that's pretty funny
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did you know that the dnc itself that's the democrat organization is also in debt unlike the republicans
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the dnc is 16 million dollars in debt does it seem to you that democrats overspend in every category
00:36:35.600
including their own organization and it just doesn't seem like republicans are doing that
00:36:45.440
well rand paul came out with his festivus report for 2025 he found 1.6 trillion in wasted fraud
00:36:59.840
1.6 trillion in wasted fraud now people will debate how much of that is wasted fraud
00:37:10.720
but i always say the first trillion is the easiest to spot you once you get that first trillion
00:37:18.560
now do you believe that there's 1.6 trillion in wasted fraud that he could find i do
00:37:27.200
you know i've said this now a number of times i could not understand the world
00:37:31.760
you know the political world you know the political world unless the fraud numbers were over a trillion
00:37:38.960
dollars a year and apparently they are they're over a trillion dollars a year and apparently it's also
00:37:47.040
identifiable that's the weird part it's totally identifiable
00:37:52.320
all right here's a funny story you you've heard that some north koreans had figured out how to get
00:38:01.760
jobs at amazon and they just acted like they were remote workers and apparently amazon has blocked 1800
00:38:10.480
job apps from the suspected north korean agents who when they get a job they just do the job
00:38:20.000
and then they get paid and they give the money to presumably the regime
00:38:24.880
now the first time i heard this story i assumed that the reason that the north koreans were doing this
00:38:33.760
was to get access to our technology and maybe to you know do some mischief
00:38:41.040
but it looks like maybe their their primary motive maybe not the only motive but their primary motive
00:38:47.840
is just to get a job and to and to put the money into the regime which would suggest that their
00:38:56.560
incentive is to do the very best job they could because not only could they get fired but they could get
00:39:05.760
executed so it could turn out that they've always been the best employees amazon's ever had
00:39:12.640
because you'd have to be really smart to pull off the deception but if you didn't pull it off right
00:39:20.880
what does the dear leader in north korea do to you does he execute you i mean it's a dangerous place
00:39:28.640
so the ironic and funny thing is that you know obviously they have to stop it you know they have to
00:39:34.480
plug that hole which they've done but is it possible that they've always been their best employees
00:39:42.080
and that they would have continued to be their best employees because what they really wanted was a job
00:39:51.920
anyway i think that's funny at capital one we're more than just a credit card company
00:39:58.960
we're people just like you who believe in the power of yes yes to new opportunities yes to second
00:40:05.840
chances yes to a fresh start that's why we've helped over four million canadians get access
00:40:11.920
to a credit card because at capital one we say yes so you don't have to hear another no what will
00:40:18.000
you do with your yes get the yes you've been waiting for at capital one dot ca slash yes terms and conditions apply
00:40:26.160
well did you hear there's another million epstein records that they didn't know about
00:40:31.600
so suddenly they found another million records so if you thought that the release of the epstein file
00:40:42.240
was already too slow what do you think by the fact that it's moving backwards that there are more
00:40:49.600
unreleased files today than there were a month ago and that every day that goes by instead of fewer
00:40:57.920
unreleased documents that there are actually more of them well this would suggest that the trickle
00:41:05.440
theory i've talked about might be in play that if they could add another million that don't have any
00:41:12.320
real value then they can say well here's another ten thousand well here's another ten thousand and they
00:41:20.080
would never have to get to the bottom of the barrel so that they could always argue we're working as hard
00:41:25.920
as we can and we're doing our best but we keep finding all these files and you want to know about
00:41:32.240
them right so it's suspicious as hell and how do you lose a million documents in the first place
00:41:41.440
but i went to grok this morning to try to see if i could do any kind of a good job of summarizing
00:41:51.440
the mike ben's theory about epstein would you like to hear my best take using grok so it's not my take
00:42:01.120
it's mike ben's who i asked grok to summarize would you like to hear my best take on how the epstein thing
00:42:12.160
makes sense that we don't know as much as we should know i don't know if that's still interesting
00:42:18.720
because if you're a little bit of a repeat i'm just looking at your answers right now
00:42:29.040
all right so i will try to use my skills for summarizing on top of grok's skills for summarizing
00:42:44.480
on top of the key research done by mike benz who's great at summarizing but he starts with a very large
00:42:53.040
body of of work all right let's see how i can do this so again credit to mike ben's um
00:43:04.480
so back in 1976 epstein joined the company bear stearns where he was not exactly qualified
00:43:14.800
um and he handled accounts for a bank called bcci that i guess was some kind of subsidiary of bear
00:43:25.840
stearns and bcci is well known as being we know this now uh the the bank for the cia
00:43:35.600
so it was specifically used by um not only great britain and saudi arabia but the united states
00:43:45.840
to launder money through the for their intelligence agencies right so the first the first hint that
00:43:55.200
epstein was cia is that he worked for the cia bank obviously he knew what he was doing
00:44:03.040
all right so you got that going on he definitely 100 chance epstein knew he was working for
00:44:12.240
intelligence agencies and it was one of the biggest ones of the time completely confirmed
00:44:19.680
you don't have to guess if they were part of the cia that's all proven you know nobody debases
00:44:27.360
it all right but how in the world did he get that job well uh he began his career upsteen did as a
00:44:37.280
math and physics teacher at this elite dalton school in new york city now the weird part is he did not have
00:44:45.600
the credentials to be a teacher of those topics or any topics um so how did he get that job well the
00:44:56.000
the the person running that school was donald bar who coincidentally or not was the father of bill
00:45:05.920
bar now donald bar was known again these are confirmed facts he was known to be an employee of the oss
00:45:17.040
which was a precursor of the cia so now we have confirmed
00:45:21.920
we have confirmed that epstein was part of this big bank that was the cia we have confirmed that he
00:45:28.960
got a job that he probably wasn't qualified for thanks to somebody who was literally on the payroll
00:45:36.320
of the cia and his precursor now what you might not know is that donald bar was also associated with
00:45:45.040
cover-up cover-ups and cleanups so he would be known as somebody who you know hid things so that
00:45:53.440
the public did not find out about them and epstein worked for him now his son bill bar also was on the
00:46:04.000
payroll of the cia while he was going to law school so both the father and the son are confirmed to have
00:46:12.080
been on a cia or pre-cia payroll bill bar the younger one you know as the attorney general in the first
00:46:23.920
trump administration and also the attorney general in the second do you remember who told you that uh
00:46:32.960
the epstein committed suicide well the person who was sort of in charge of determining that was bill
00:46:41.280
bar and he literally is from a family of cia cover-up people
00:46:50.160
this is all true this is it's amazing all right so uh benton's argues that epstein's rapid rise within
00:46:58.640
bear stearns remember bear stearns was the entity uh that's working with that uh cork and bank
00:47:06.240
uh despite a questionable resume says rock um was that he was he was doing these cia transactions
00:47:16.800
so he had a rapid career rise so he worked on trades connected to bcci which were clearing billions of
00:47:24.720
dollars for intel agencies like the cia and mi6 and saudi led saudi led safari club whatever that is all right
00:47:33.520
so now we know epstein was definitely cia there's no doubt about it and we know that his connections
00:47:44.880
were with a senior bar who was a cover-up guy and also junior bar who was a cia cover-up guy
00:47:53.280
so he has a strong connection to two cia cover-up guys
00:48:00.880
um going further there was this gentleman named stand pottinger who i'd never heard of until
00:48:08.720
benz so stan pottinger was a i guess he's well known today as a cia mop-up man in other words he was a
00:48:19.040
cover-up guy for the cia so you got two bars senior and junior who were both on the payroll
00:48:30.720
and they're both cover-up guys but the stan pottinger was the ultimate cover-up guy
00:48:36.880
and uh he covered for let's see the mlk assassination when people were asking if the cia was involved
00:48:47.200
the civil rights movement in a number of ways watergate uh operation condor and ben says that
00:48:56.000
pottinger appeared in quote every cia scandal of the 60s and 70s so that if anything needs to be
00:49:04.080
covered up you would always find pottinger but what does pottinger have to do with anybody well
00:49:11.120
uh pottinger was epstein's roommate during the early 80s pottinger was his roommate
00:49:24.160
so the three most famous cia cover-up guys had a confirmed and definite close relationship
00:49:32.960
with epstein epstein epstein was so deeply embedded with the cia that he's the guy who signed off on
00:49:43.440
moving the cia's airline which they used for you know moving uh i think they use it for around contra
00:49:50.880
and some other stuff so cia had his own plane that they used for sketchy stuff and somehow epstein got to
00:50:00.000
sign off on moving that to be the private plane of the limited which is remember that uh i believe
00:50:08.000
that was the company for victoria secrets remember his his his billionaire friend owned uh his billionaire
00:50:18.000
friend owned victoria secrets so how in the world benz asks would epstein be able to move a cia plane
00:50:29.680
from one ownership to the other unless unless he was deeply embedded with the cia or they wanted him to
00:50:38.480
do it all right so did that a summary work once you realize that his closest associations yeah wexler was
00:50:50.960
ahead of the limit once you realize that his closest associations were cia cover-up guys are you surprised
00:51:00.960
that we're not seeing all the files you should not be surprised there's really no way we're going to see
00:51:08.320
all the files now i would imagine that the good stuff has already been deleted from the files a long
00:51:15.840
time ago i assume but even if it hadn't been you're never going to see it you will never see it
00:51:24.320
it so how many for how many of you did that answer your questions this is a little bit confusing but
00:51:34.080
once you know the players and that's what mike benz does so well he figures out who the players are and
00:51:39.920
how they're connected every bit of this by the way is from public records so i don't think
00:51:47.120
there's anything i said that's not a publicly documented beyond any question
00:51:52.800
yeah mike bert it's old news for you i i think it's old news for a number of people but it's still hard
00:52:03.920
to hold it all in your head isn't it that that's the problem i was having it's like okay pottinger bar
00:52:11.360
senior junior bcci uh what's the name of that bank bear stearns but but once you realize
00:52:19.120
uh i guess there's maybe half a dozen names once you realize how those half a dozen names fit together
00:52:27.600
right and then then you look at uh his his friend there uh good lady maxwell wasn't her father intel
00:52:39.440
so here's the question bar was clinton's cover-up guy for the drug running yeah so so also um bill
00:52:59.200
bar was hired as attorney general under george bush senior who had been the head of the cia
00:53:15.680
and uh yeah and he he had a connection to kashoggi who was this big arms dealer for
00:53:41.600
well the mcdonald's there's a mcdonald's and uh in minneapolis
00:53:46.400
that you can't get in unless somebody unlocks the door for you because there's too much mischief and
00:53:53.680
crime i remember a time when you could just go to mcdonald's and walk in and order something
00:54:01.120
and now it's so dangerous even to be in public in minnesota that they've got the door locked
00:54:07.920
and they check you out before they let you in to get a hamburger
00:54:11.680
oh no you're not getting near our hamburgers unless we feel safe
00:54:18.800
here's a weird one so apparently the trump administration did an eo
00:54:23.120
to force indiana to keep open some power plants some coal power plants that they were going to close
00:54:32.160
and it made me wonder how can the federal government
00:54:36.400
tell a state to keep a coal plant open what what authority would allow you to do that
00:54:42.960
it's not exactly national defense so seems to me that indiana might challenge that and win
00:54:52.400
because i don't see an executive order having that kind of power over a state but i could be surprised
00:55:00.320
um you heard that the military was going to use grok the ai apparently they also are going to use
00:55:15.840
gemini which should be a competing ai so i don't know if they've thought this through
00:55:22.720
is it a good idea to have two major ais in the military or should they have put all their
00:55:32.880
all their chips in grok because it will be better you know grok would be better than gemini
00:55:40.160
but is it a mistake that the military might have two different major ais i don't know maybe one keeps
00:55:48.320
the other one from being too adventurous i don't know there might be an argument for it
00:55:55.840
meanwhile russia wants to put a nuclear power plant on the moon within a decade do you believe that russia
00:56:03.360
has the technical capability to put a nuclear power plant on the moon within a decade and how would
00:56:11.680
they get there would they rent space on a spacex would uh would they build the power plant here
00:56:21.600
and then pay elon musk to take it to the moon or do they have that capability i don't know i'm not
00:56:28.880
sure sure they can pull that off but maybe maybe ai will let them pull it off
00:56:34.720
all right i saw a clip of palmer lucky speaking of palmer lucky and he's the ceo of and founder of
00:56:47.440
anduril who's making high-tech weapons for the u.s now apparently he's figured out how to make a
00:56:56.000
missile that you could produce in something like a car manufacturing line now why that's a big deal
00:57:03.920
is that you could take a hundred thousand dollar missile and make it a thousand dollar missile
00:57:09.760
that'd be just as good if you could manufacture it more efficiently and you could quickly change over
00:57:16.800
your domestic manufacturing from whatever it was already doing to uh to make missiles
00:57:25.120
he he claims this pretty good argument that china would have to think twice about attacking
00:57:32.960
because if china thought haha we can make missiles faster than they can we'll just wait till they
00:57:39.680
run out of missiles then maybe they would get adventurous but if they knew we can make missiles
00:57:46.720
for a thousand dollars a piece and we could in let's say two weeks convert a car assembly line into a
00:57:54.000
missile maker then they would have to worry that we could make cheaper better smarter faster
00:58:01.680
missiles than they do because we did better with manufacturing i don't know if you beat china
00:58:08.160
in manufacturing but it's interesting argument so i've noticed that um elon musk and palmer lucky
00:58:19.360
have one thing in common besides being geniuses um that they put they put a high value in
00:58:30.640
um and if you take the quickly manufacture part seriously then everything changes so militarily it's
00:58:39.440
a big deal but profit wise it's an even bigger deal i think i told you yesterday that
00:58:45.920
musk thinks they can get the production of the autocab that would be the one that has no steering wheel
00:58:52.640
it'd be self-driving he thinks he can get that down to five seconds per unit
00:58:59.520
so that from beginning to end i think that's what that means or maybe it just means that
00:59:06.000
yeah it would have to be from beginning then that it would be so efficient
00:59:09.520
that it would just go boom and five seconds you would have a new vehicle that's his goal five seconds
00:59:23.520
so i think that might be that's all i want to talk about today
00:59:45.680
all right let me look at your comments and hang out for with you for a while
01:00:03.840
sir we can always whip the wii or software yeah
01:00:23.680
yeah it's not building yeah okay i think you're right
01:00:27.600
it's one coming off the assembly line every five minutes that's different
01:00:40.160
existing plants are once every minute is that true
01:00:49.200
interesting i would not have known the answer to that question but
01:01:18.720
bobber lucky's sister is married to matt gates true small world
01:01:34.960
yeah and the girls were a party favor probably so it makes you wonder what other bad behavior
01:01:42.240
people linked to the cia get away with if epstein was getting away with this stuff
01:01:48.720
because he was valuable to the cia how many other people fall in that category
01:02:09.600
what am i having for breakfast you know i'm not going to tell you
01:02:28.880
oh you liked it so did my summary of the mike ben's thing add to what you knew
01:02:42.000
i think that was good work especially if i'm making it worse
01:02:50.880
get that summary down a little bit it's really hard to summarize
01:03:12.880
well yeah obviously i credited him as much as possible i'm very impressed with his work
01:03:26.880
you know i've said this before but when i think of him i always think of the marvel
01:03:32.480
universe and there's a famous line in the marvel movies
01:03:37.040
where whoever says i don't know somebody says we have a hulk who says that is it tony stark
01:03:47.120
who's the person in the uh in the superhero movies who says we have a hulk
01:03:57.360
well whoever says it it makes me think of ben's because we have a ben's
01:04:03.120
they don't really have one of those and without him we would not have been able to penetrate the ngo stuff
01:04:12.800
or the epstein stuff to the you know by far the biggest things going so and we have a victor david
01:04:22.080
handson you know we have a we have a me we have i don't want to say we have a joe rogan because i
01:04:31.200
prefer to think of him as an independent but uh he's definitely not anti-trump and we have an elon musk
01:04:44.720
but think about it yeah we have we have a cerdovich
01:04:49.440
i can go down the line and come up with another 10 names but we seem to have people who are just way
01:04:56.960
better at stuff uh things you didn't even know needed to happen but uh
01:05:06.320
yeah we have a dated republican they don't have that
01:05:12.880
but really if you watch any of the left-leaning content which i've started to do as much as possible
01:05:19.360
like the bulwark etc it's mostly just gossipers like what makes you famous or successful on the
01:05:28.720
left is that you're good at insulting republicans you're good at the gossip so that seems to be what
01:05:37.040
they they value oh you did a really good job of insulting trump so we'll watch your show but on the right
01:05:44.800
right there's some kind of competence thing that people are valuing the people on the right can tell
01:05:53.600
the difference between what is really useful and what is just a bunch of insults now i would i would
01:06:02.800
suggest that i've trained an entire republican party about persuasion and also reframing
01:06:11.440
so if you take just those two contributions that just i did persuasion and reframing who did that on
01:06:20.400
their side who taught the democrats how to do that nobody they don't have a me so they don't have a mike
01:06:29.760
bens they don't have a me they don't have an elon musk um they always complain that they don't have a
01:06:36.320
joe rogan but again he's he's i call him an independent but he's super useful yeah they
01:06:45.920
they have a rob reiner the best guy was rob reiner and stephen king the avengers yes thank you
01:06:58.400
canada can be a global leader in reducing the harm caused by smoking but it requires actionable steps now is
01:07:05.520
the time to modernize canadian laws so that adult smokers have information and access to better
01:07:11.200
alternatives by doing so we can create lasting change if you don't smoke don't start if you smoke
01:07:18.720
quit if you don't quit change visit unsmoke.ca yep uh again i hate to say that we have an elon musk
01:07:30.160
because i also think of him as an independent but i get it i know why you're saying it
01:07:39.280
and when you look at their historians their historians are basically just insulters
01:07:45.840
that they just use history to insult trump well obviously he's a fascist but you go to victor davis
01:07:54.160
hansen and he's giving you this incredible context that really puts everything you know in order
01:08:01.280
completely different completely different yeah we have one of them they don't
01:08:06.640
we have a dennis miller i don't hear much from him
01:08:17.280
yep they have a james carville and joy reed you're right so some of their
01:08:24.720
some of their most notable people are just idiots so what it takes to be notable on the left
01:08:35.840
is to be wildly lying like the designated liars and to be good at insulting or if you're rachel maddow
01:08:47.120
to be good at faceless while you insult have you ever watched her face while she thinks she has
01:08:53.280
something i'm so happy because i've got something bad to say about a republican about trump oh my god
01:09:02.080
i can't get this smile this this smoke smile off my face oh and oh my god it's so cringe
01:09:13.680
yeah her face screams mental illness and i mean that seriously not as an insult it screams mental illness
01:09:22.560
yeah they had they have a tim waltz oh my god they have a they have a governor newsom
01:09:34.000
are you fucking kidding me we we have a ron desantis and they have a tim waltz come on come on
01:09:42.800
are you gonna put them in the same bag no no we we have a trump and they had a kamala harris right
01:09:58.240
right we had a trump and they had the kamala harris these are not competitive you know because the way
01:10:07.120
the system is set up she could still come within striking distance but there's no way that they
01:10:15.200
have any kind of equal talent set you know trump's talent stack is extraordinary and she didn't have
01:10:21.600
any she had no talent at all they have an eric swalwell and we've got someone
01:10:31.280
i'm running out of names yeah they have a jasmine crockett
01:10:42.160
so but so even if you let me pick another name even if you didn't like ted cruz you're smarter than
01:10:50.880
most of them right we've got a ted cruz and they've got they've got some lying weasels
01:11:01.280
they have most of the fraud now i will give them mark cuban because i think he has you know like a
01:11:11.440
real brain um but he doesn't he's not really utilized in in a strong way politically uh and maybe he
01:11:24.160
shouldn't be because he's you know it would be interfere with his businesses they have a dan goldberg
01:11:36.800
yeah we've got a thomas massey not everybody likes that i happen to like it
01:11:44.320
but what about uh michael schellenberger who do they have that matches matt taibbi
01:12:05.280
uh they used to have the ceo of starbucks he wasn't that involved
01:12:09.520
yeah we have rand paul they have bernie good one yeah they have bernie and we have rand paul again
01:12:22.960
even well glenn greenwald i would still call him an independent but he has certainly uh been useful
01:12:47.040
uh we have guff held they have kimmel perfect perfect so we have the number one guy for late night uh
01:12:55.120
political stuff greg guff health and they've got three people who are really weak
01:13:01.200
probably won't even be in business in a little while
01:13:10.400
now am i am i just being biased or is it super obvious
01:13:16.400
that the talent on the right exceeds the talent on the left do you agree with the hypothesis
01:13:24.400
first of all would you say that's true or am i just imagining it because i want it to be true
01:13:35.040
yeah we have megan kelly who's there megan kelly joy reid they don't have anything that yeah
01:13:46.480
i don't think democrats have anything that would equal a megan kelly
01:14:03.360
we have meritocracy and they don't well maddo okay well i will give you that maddo gets a big audience
01:14:13.360
and she can make a dent but she's so insane she only works one day a week
01:14:19.040
i don't know you could argue that the right has a fuentes problem um and i would argue that's true
01:14:30.080
jake tapper laura luber yeah laura luber is in her own category
01:14:45.120
um you could have one to rip in and you want about her but she's she kind of stands alone there's there
01:14:59.920
we have mark levin i don't i don't know if mark levin
01:15:06.160
fits into this model or not he's kind of his own guy i mean obviously he's right leading but
01:15:12.960
i wouldn't put him in the same conversation as the others
01:15:20.000
they do have john stewart but he can't make a dent
01:15:25.360
oh we have scott jennings right we have scott jennings and they have jasmine crockett again
01:16:00.640
are you opening your presence yeah we have a caroline levitt and they had that weird one again not even
01:16:12.960
we have nicki menage i guess i wouldn't count that one
01:16:18.960
all right who else is having a delicious meal soon
01:16:28.000
yeah we have roseanne and they have i don't know what
01:16:41.840
they have adam schiff adam schiff yeah we have adam carolla and they have adam schiff again
01:16:51.600
not even close i'll take adam carolla every time
01:16:58.000
so we have dr drew and they have everybody who lied to us about the pandemic
01:17:20.800
i wouldn't say we have dr drew because i also think he would be considered an independent
01:17:53.040
right he just happens to be smart enough to to know how to work productively with the right
01:18:45.920
i'm tempted to just hang out so i'll tell you what i'll do
01:18:53.920
another five minutes and then get back to what you were doing
01:20:29.920
looks like i'm gonna have to close it and reopen it just to end it