Episode 3072 CWSA - The Scott Adams School 01⧸14⧸26
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1 hour and 3 minutes
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175.31845
Summary
Inaugural session for the scott adams school, where we celebrate the life and legacy of scott Adams and talk about the news, the past, the present, and the future of the school. We also pay our respects to the many who lost a loved one, and remember the many lessons they learned from scott.
Transcript
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morning everyone welcome to the welcome to the inaugural session this is a stream for the scott
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adams school i'm glad you're here and uh we make em oh and can we make sure that the feeds are up
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is locals on okay just checking okay i see everybody okay thanks i see some comments
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from locals so it looks like people are here um but i i have no visibility into the rest so
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hopefully it's all working um but yeah welcome welcome everyone and i'm glad you're here um
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i think we're we have one special guest mark schneider who will probably talk to us in a
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little bit here but um otherwise we're just hanging out together and we can talk about the news we can
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talk about you know lessons from scott we can talk about your memories of scott or how he's influenced
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you whatever you want and we have a few people here to kick it off and i'll turn it over to
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joshua lisek who's going to do the simultaneous sip joshua
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everyone you know what you need for this you know what you need and all you need is a cup
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or a mug or a glass a tankard chalice or stein a canteen jug or flask a vessel of any kind
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fill it with your favorite liquid we like coffee and join us now for the unparalleled pleasure
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the dopamine hit of the day the thing that makes everything better and it happens now go
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something that i noticed last night we have joel joshua is that joel hi joel oh hi i'm on the
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beach in santa monica this is where i would often listen to the show oh i love it you're back in cali
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yeah scott would often do the show and he knew i was on the beach he actually mentioned me once or
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twice he'd say for those of you working out on the beach oh that's so great hey joshua if if oh
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and if you don't mind i joshua's had quite the day yesterday with all of his scott stuff and i thought
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uh why am i saying joshua why am i saying joshua joel that is so weird okay um joel had quite the day
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yesterday um with all things scott and if you don't know joel is uh writing scott's biography
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and joel why don't you tell us about what you were experiencing yesterday like between people
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magazine and the new york times and all that stuff like uh help us uh process this this day yesterday
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well of course it was predictable that they would attack scott because that's what
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our media unfortunately do when you have a critical perspective on how things work on people
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in power and i predicted that would happen not that i had anything like scott's powers of prediction
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i've just seen this happen before we've all seen it before but it happened after charlie kirk and it
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happened 15 years ago after andrew reitbart passed away 14 years ago and i had just seen it before but
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i also felt like scott would have wanted us to transcend it so i tried not to let it get to me
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what was really amazing about yesterday was how much love there was that just came from everywhere
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and when someone passes away that people know from public life there's always that reaction but
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this was several times greater than anything i anticipated i'm sure scott would have been completely
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blown away by it the number of people he influenced the amazing things that people said about how
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he had changed their lives that was incredible and i know we'll talk more about that today
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i want to just add one thing that happened last night where scott was very much in my thoughts and i
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think this is how many of us will continue to engage with scott long after this week passes
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i was invited on cnn and my friend alex michelson who hosts the very late night show there he used to
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host a show in california called the issue is on fox 11 he's one of the fairest people in media
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so he moved to cnn they gave him the late night show called the story is and he had already invited
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me to come on and talk about the palisades fire pacific palisades is right behind me by the way in
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the far distance in malibu and i said great and then yesterday i sent him a text message and said
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i'm going to talk about scott adams as well and he said oh that's great yes talk about scott
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he said can you also talk about the billionaire tax in florida or excuse me in california i said sure
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i'll talk about the billionaire tax and he said okay you're going to be on with this
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left-wing panelist i said no problem i got there and the first thing that they showed us in the show
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and you can go and watch the video it's in my feed on x at joel pollack the first thing they show us
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is a video of a woman being arrested by ice in minneapolis and i had no idea we were going to
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talk about that none whatsoever and i was a bit thrown off by it because i knew we were going to
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talk about scott i knew we were going to talk about the billionaire tax i didn't know we were going to
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talk about this video and alex played the video and the left-wing guest responded and condemned it
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talked about what a terrible country we are what this kind of thing can happen and all i could hear in
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my mind was scott saying you can't trust video videos lie yeah you don't know the context you
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don't know the full video and so that's how i answered alex came to me and he said well what
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do you think of this video and i said well i don't know what to think i don't know anything about this
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video it's the first time i'm seeing it we don't know what happened before we don't know what happened
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afterwards and i almost wanted to go all the way and say scott adams told us you can't trust video
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but i didn't want to go that far because i thought that if people hadn't heard that before
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it would be upsetting especially if what happened in the video really turned out to be bad that this
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was an innocent person who was being pulled out of her car so i just made my point and i said look
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this kind of interaction wouldn't have to happen if there was cooperation between state and local
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law enforcement and ice and i really wanted to get back to talking about scott we did eventually talk
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about scott well overnight the new york post which is my employer through the california post
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came out with a story they actually covered this video independently i didn't say anything about it
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they just worked on the story and it turned out this woman had dropped had driven her car to block
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the street so that ice vehicles couldn't get through so they weren't just picking on some random person
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and whatever you think of ice and immigration policy or whatever it's not important to the story
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what's important is that this woman did this provocative thing and in fact maybe it makes
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ice look better because this time nobody was shot but it was just so incredible to me that i had sat
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there feeling uncomfortable about this video thinking of scott warning me back of my mind videos lie
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you don't know you don't know till you see the whole thing and sure enough the story was completely
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different i mean we were asked basically to condemn ice on set if you watch the video you'll see that
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was the con that was the way things were supposed to happen and i just said i don't know anything
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about this video and i'm just thinking about scott and i just think these little lessons that we have
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every day and not just about politics i mean here i am on the beach and i didn't know if i was going
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to exercise but i thought you know i'm going to exercise the way i used to scott would have said just get
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out there even just a few minutes and i think these little lessons that we interact with as we go
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about our daily lives where we would remember things and maybe discover new things we hadn't
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seen before new videos new new writing or old writing that we hadn't read anyway uh we're just
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continuing to think about scott and i don't think i ever showed him a live video from the beach i did
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once in a while send him a picture from the beach but this was always a beautiful place to come and hear
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what scott had to say so anyway just want to send my greetings to everyone out there to shelly
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and josh and marcella and everybody else who's participating and keeping this going thank you
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so much joel that was like such a perfect example like of something scott has taught us that you just
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implemented in real time and gave us a story of how well that worked out for you because the opposite
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would have been like oh i'm on cnn and i have to give an answer because i'm on camera right now let me
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quick form an opinion and then like you said you don't even really know what the whole story is so
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that thank you because that was such a good way to show us like take a beat like just take a beat we
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don't know what it was like you know i don't have the context i don't know what happened before or after
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so thanks for for putting scott's words into action and showing us what that looked like sorry owen
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well i'm going to say more than welcome now i'm going to continue listening i have to get to work
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so i'm going to turn my camera off but just want to send love to everybody please keep sending me
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your stories at joel pollack on x and my email address if you want it is jb pollack at gmail.com
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and i know that everybody in this audience is going to send me good stuff and not spam if i give out my
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email address so jb pollack.com send me your recollections and your feelings and i'll look
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to mark schneider mark go ahead the floor is yours yeah um yeah thanks for having me uh erica thanks for
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reaching out and inviting me um you know it's it's interesting because i started following scott uh
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before he was on periscope if you can believe that i joined uh twitter back then when he had 30 000
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followers and and i can remember uh the moment that he followed me on twitter um and i love telling the
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story because uh it was one of those times we would like reach out for ideas for uh comic strips
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and um i had uh i had made a suggestion that there be a new manager um and it'd be the the host of
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dirty jobs micro because if you've ever worked in the corporate world we all deal with that micro manager
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um and it was like i made that and then immediately he followed me and it just like it made my day
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um you know it made my probably my year uh for that so it's like 2015 time frame um and i just
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remember you know like he was i was the guy who would like jump on anytime i was on periscope i'd be
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in the middle of work probably shouldn't have periscope on but i'd be jumping on and watching him and
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and providing feedback i was in the u.s navy at that time um you know one of those uh you know scott
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always talked about having fuck you money i definitely didn't have that and i put my neck out there
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a lot um during that period um it was just fun to watch it grow and uh and when i retired in
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2018 i actually had the comic strip uh where i was a guest character on in my retirement bulletin
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with the message confirming that that was me so uh all my guests at my retirement ceremony got to see
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uh some of my correspondents with scott get to see a dilbert comic not many people in the military
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he put a dilbert comic in there um in their retirement pamphlet but uh but i thought that
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was important um and then when i retired uh i remember uh scott had naval robincon on and uh they
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were talking about like this it was this this uh periscope to that'll change your life and it was one of
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those that changed my life it was no joke he got done and that's when i sent out and i put out a
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thread of tweets that was my green nuclear deal in response to the green new deal and that's when
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i became known as the nuclear advocate um i was working at commercial nuclear power stations at the
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time um and that was just a lot of fun you know just just having that uh that getting to know scott
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uh getting to know michael schellenberger and um and i know that and discussing with scott i think the big
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thing that uh the three of us did was uh instead of making it a nuclear yes no conversation we made
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a decision between traditional nuclear and advanced nuclear so we took that uh you know the lesson of
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scott adams of a make people think past the sale was it was no longer do we want nuclear it's a what
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style of nuclear uh do you want um and now i'm taking those lessons that i've learned and uh for those of
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you don't know uh a little over a year ago i moved to australia so i'm uh speaking at everyone here at
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11 o'clock at night uh in uh awsp time i live in perth which is the most remote city on the planet
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um but australia doesn't have nuclear power they have one uh research reactor but they're working on
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getting nuclear submarines and so now i'm working you know my magic if you will through uh the lessons
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i've learned from scott on how to bring uh the language and you know how do we bring nuclear
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energy to australia a nation that doesn't understand nuclear energy um by any stretch of the imagination
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so it's just been it's been a lot of fun and uh i go to public events for the australian submarine
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agency and i ask very difficult questions because um one it helps the crowd to develop credibility with
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with them um and when i have credibility with them i'm pacing them so i can lead them and uh i know
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i've influenced the politicians here and it's it's all for scott because of that you know scott is the
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one that that uh you know when i was struggling to decide whether to come out here to follow my wife
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i followed my wife out here um for the work that she's doing to support the uh the akus nuclear
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submarine program but uh he was a person that i bounced things off of and um i can remember very
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vividly uh one of my favorite periscopes was the time that joshua lysic jumped on um to talk to scott
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uh as being the anti-trumper turned pro-trumper uh and that was one of my favorite periscopes as well
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so i can remember there's just so many memories going back of scott you know from watching the early
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periscope days you know to the pandemic um you know i've watched him in my car i've watched him
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at work i've watched him in the middle of the night um you know i'll just everywhere uh and then i think
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probably the one of the things i will uh always remember was that a couple years ago when i was
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working for the u.s coast guard i got to come out to san francisco to do some communications equipment
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testing and uh i reached out to scott and um we had dinner and uh and i'm and it was so funny i i would
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have never asked him for a selfie but i can and i'm thinking i'm gonna close it up with this but i
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can remember as you're walking out of the restaurant he goes now's the time when you need to ask me for
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the selfie that you want to ask for and so he insisted i took that selfie and i literally have
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stared at that photo of us with tears in my eyes for the last several weeks actually so um yeah it's
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i i'm gonna miss him greatly but uh you know the love and outpouring and uh what's been amazing is
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going on my x feed and just seeing positive posts after positive posts after positive posts about scott
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and it's been such a thing of comfort i've never seen x so positive in my entire life
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it's probably the most wonderful thing it's so true mark like uh i sounded so smart when scott met
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you and started having you on i was like oh gen four nuclear it's nothing to do with the other stuff
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and i'm like telling people oh all the waste can fit into one barrel i'm like what am what who am i
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that's what everybody else was saying too but joshua is right here too and joshua i love that
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periscope also when why don't you two talk about it together about when scott had you on that was
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amazing yes thank you now mark there's a chapter i believe it's towards the ends of uh reframe your
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brain that is basically all about you and about how you in in part through the vehicle of
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coffee with scott adams changed the not just national but international conversation on
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nuclear power and now we're seeing all of these venture capitalists and influencers
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influencers venture capitalists talking about how important it is to invest in all this nuclear power
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so before before there's a technological or an economic transformation in a specific industry
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there's the influencers sort of give permission to explore that space and mark schneider you
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personally together with scott adams sort of gave international permission for nuclear power to
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uh shall we say get made great again haha uh moving rooms with one of my kids now um in any case
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yes we're all talking about the i think it was june 2019 so i began following scott on social media in
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2018 shortly after my son was born let's see you want to say hi to 22 000 people no no okay gen alpha for
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you um he's like he'll get a message on his phone he's like i don't want to see my phone it's like yes
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as opposed to those of us why are there always 2 000 no there's 20 23 000 people see even he knows
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why is there only ever 20 to 30 000 people on live stream see this is what we're always curious about
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why is uh you know why is uh youtube and whatnot giving the same number um yes now coming back to
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uh the 2018 2019 season i follow scott daily on twitter at the time during that particular period that
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particular year and he changed my thinking significantly but the first let's say experience
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i had of scott was in on the on the matter of donald trump was in 2017 i was i was in my cia phase
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which stands for uh cringe internet atheist and in that state i was a real follower of sam harris's
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podcast called waking up and he had a debate with scott adams back in 2017 it was i don't remember
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exactly what year it was or what month rather and in that show i was expecting oh i like the
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dilbert guy i always liked seeing his comics and other daryl dilbert paraphernalia at office depot when
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i was a kid you go there you see the cute funky little screensavers you see the cow computers right
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remember gateway all the uh cow computers everywhere and then there was dilbert right all the dilbert
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stuff so that was the passing the time of parents trying to make copies of everything so 2017 i'm i'm
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a little worried that the dilbert guy is going to get embarrassed by my guy you know sam harris and
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scott comes off completely reasonable and normal and rational and even kind to sam who sort of as we
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might say in the midwest united states sam harris kind of had a cow during that debate and i like
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my guy lost i wasn't expecting this that was 2017 that was the pre-suasion then follow scott for a year
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read winvigley the first edition and then scott says hey if you were uh let's say uh deprogrammed from
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tds trump arrangement syndrome and you also were at one point a a liberal i'd like to have you on my show
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and i thought that's literally me because that at that point i had learned that so much of what was
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believed about donald trump was not moved to something not correct um and one of those moments
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that i had was i was with what i like to call an npr american don't forget the hyphen npr americans are
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people who they consume news like npr like the new york times and they believe it's real news
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uh and so i had seen it on a particular day shortly before this scott adams offer i had seen
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i i donald trump tweet that i thought was pretty funny which was a new thing for me being okay with
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liking a tweet from the president number 45 at that time and i was with an npr american and we were
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listening to npr and the npr broadcaster reads the first half of the tweet stops does not read the
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rest which provides an essential context and then they have all these commentators and experts who
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come on to talk about how this is a decency free presidency and i thought oh wow i mean you know that
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mean are we the baddies that i was having that sort of that experience and i showed it to the npr
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american friend at the time and you know what this individual said or as scott would say and in
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the visual uh this person said showing them the tweet on my phone oh that's a photoshop screenshot
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it was live live on twitter oh that's a photoshop screenshot that couldn't be real npr wouldn't do that
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and then just glitched into cognitive dissonance and then i began to realize that's what happened to
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sam harris and i awakened to the reality that i had termed arrangement syndrome myself and now
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thanks to scott happens i had been cured and so long story short i replied to scott's post in 2019
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went on and shared you know gave the interview with with him there uh at the very end he asked you know
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where can people find you and i said oh i'm at joshua lisek and uh i'm i'm a non-fiction book ghost
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writer i said oh okay that's pretty cool and i think that day maybe the next day i got onto his
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interface by winhub app which was you could book experts for a specific period of time kind of like
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a micro transaction micro lesson live you could get with people that's how i met a lot that's how i met
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mike cernovich for the first time by the way as he was on interface at the time and i get on and
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just mentioned hey i have an interface profile and then i guess scott did some homework on me and
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some research over the next 24 hours and then on his license the next day he mentioned oh you know
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we had joshua lisek on yesterday so he's this non-fiction book ghost writer he does a lot of
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business and he's really good you should check him out if you want to write a book something like
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that and i think i got 100 inquiries for a ghost writer in the next probably week or so and that
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provided an initial batch of clients for me and through that experience i was able to move my
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family from a dangerous part of town to a very safe part of a town with a new house new opportunities
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new experiences get into rental properties and become a real estate investor so much of my life
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opened up have have more children so much of my life opportunity opened up because of that
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relationship with scott and it was from the very beginning uh where he recommended me to his audience
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and then the referrals from referrals from referrals as a non-fiction ghost writer from
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that one let's say one minute commercial that scott gave for me back in 2019 and then the irony of
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course is after the cancellation in 2023 i get a text message from him i think the next day
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and i'm not going to share exactly what it said because i just don't share those listening 27 000
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people watching right now don't share your private conversations you had with scott that is so tacky
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we saw all the conservative influencers doing that with charlie kirk don't do that i will call you out
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if i see that i will name you and shame you i apologize that said uh the gist of the conversation
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i had with scott was something to the effect of he he remembered what he had said about me what was
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that four years prior and so that's how we ended up working together on reframe and the the second
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editions of his books plus the third installment of god's debris but i think it was that interview
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2019 coming back to you mark schneider how you and i met for the first time uh was you'd watch that and
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i think you messaged me the very next day or maybe that same day that's how he was introduced to the
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coffee with scott adams community and i will also admit i haven't shared a story before but i will also
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add that there's one other softening up experience i'd had to donald trump as the president and kind of
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the make america great again movement and it was right around the time i watched the sam harris scott
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adams debate and sam kind of got trounced and this will be my last anecdote for the morning i'm gonna
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hang it up here and bid you all farewell i was invited by a couple of local clients who were
00:26:50.500
conservative republicans ghostwriting clients to an event where there was going to be this guest speaker
00:26:55.740
and so i'd go to this really nice country club and i'm still kind of a self-avowed liberal at this
00:27:01.920
point but feeling a little bit of tail between the legs experience with sam harris being just defeated
00:27:06.760
by scott adams the dilbert guy like my favorite atheist philosopher gets absolutely trounced and
00:27:13.080
humiliated by a cartoonist what reality is this and so there is a guest speaker at this event in this
00:27:19.380
country club for republicans the county republican party event and i meet the guest speaker turns out
00:27:26.720
he's an author also from ohio where when we're hanging out there for probably a good couple
00:27:31.820
hours we're at the same table together and he speaks and he shares and i'm thinking this is not
00:27:36.740
the republican party of we got to go invade iraq and take out saddam and get those weapons of mass
00:27:42.000
destruction mission accomplished the rapture is coming at any moment so we got to get over there
00:27:46.940
the middle east that's the sort of political religious community i grew up in and this guy
00:27:51.960
was very different he sounded almost like a almost like a democrat that i remembered from my youth
00:27:57.760
about the working class this an american dream and opportunity and affording a house and a car
00:28:02.760
and being able to have kids this is 2017 and everyone in maga they're all wearing hats and i'm kind of
00:28:09.420
rolling my eyes at it at this point in time 2017 and this is not at all the republican party i remember
00:28:16.260
i could get used to these people i like these people and i so i exchanged some writing tips
00:28:21.340
and whatnot with the speaker we get a selfie together and that that was my first in-person
00:28:26.520
experience in my adult life where i enjoyed being around republicans and i thought i i am on the same
00:28:33.600
team as these people not the guy just humiliated by the dilbert guy or as we like you know garfield
00:28:39.760
everyone would call him garfield right scott adams so anyway as many of you have just guessed
00:28:45.200
the guy i was chatting with for a few hours there that was jd vance as a citizen before he was in
00:28:50.820
politics doing his book tour and i thought this is my republican party right here awesome thank you
00:28:56.900
for the opportunity everyone thank you very much thank you joshua thank you very cool josh thanks
00:29:04.160
sure thing good to see you beverly beverly why don't you jump on and tell us who you are and
00:29:11.120
say your say i'll tell i can tell everyone that you are uh an og locals woman you are my soul sister
00:29:21.320
and uh beverly greets scott's beloveds every morning by saying
00:29:27.080
good morning lovies because you all are my lovies and um you know i don't really have a fancy story
00:29:38.800
or anything remarkable about how um i came to follow scott other than you know it was 2016
00:29:46.500
and i'm cruising twitter and of course i've already decided you know i like this trump guy the minute he
00:29:54.500
said only rosie o'donnell i was hooked i thought this is this is somebody different and he's going to
00:30:01.020
wipe the the floor you know with everybody and he did but nobody else was feeling that way and then i
00:30:08.000
came upon this tweet simple one sentence tweet by scott um about hillary how she looked like
00:30:16.460
the science fiction president of the galactic and i laughed i tear i cry laugh the entire day over that
00:30:26.160
simple tweet and i said you know what one sentence i've got to have this person in my life and i stumbled
00:30:33.580
across his periscope and i've never left and the thing about scott adams that i think we all
00:30:39.560
probably agree on is um a coffee hour with scott adams was like christmas every day you you you had
00:30:49.220
there was a present it was going to be opened and you didn't know what it would be but he always had
00:30:55.720
something new and different and it could be um triggered by just the smallest thing a comment
00:31:02.340
that you know somebody in the in the chat said and he would pick up on it and we would get 15 minutes of
00:31:10.040
awesome content you know and feedback on that and so you know yesterday i made um kind of a tribute post
00:31:20.080
right after we found out that he'd passed you know and and i did it simply because i could barely breathe
00:31:26.600
and when i can't breathe i type so i i typed this um uh you know what he meant to me and and his
00:31:36.460
passing is a small tribute i suppose and it got picked up by jack basavik and reposted and it absolutely
00:31:44.260
blew up um i spent the rest of the day trying to respond to people who were saying oh my god yes
00:31:52.760
that's me oh my god you said it perfectly that's exactly how i'm feeling oh it was exactly like that
00:31:58.460
and what am i going to do now and you know and i spent the entire day trying to personally respond
00:32:04.720
to all of these people and i mean we're talking hundreds and hundreds of people and um you know
00:32:12.120
it occurred to me that there is still a tremendous hunger out there um scott was the compass for a
00:32:21.520
lot of people and they've suddenly lost their compass and you know they feel adrift they just
00:32:27.780
feel adrift and i think we all feel adrift but we were so lucky to have 10 years with him 10 years
00:32:36.340
every day and we have people out there who were only six months in or two years in and you know they
00:32:45.920
were starting to to get into a groove you know feeling like they were going in the right direction
00:32:51.360
and then he's gone so somehow we've we've got to you know between all of us and it's going to be
00:32:59.920
mostly you guys not me i mean i'm so old i can i'm so forgetful i can hide my own stop it well
00:33:06.660
seriously i can hide my own easter eggs but you know between all of us we should be able to keep
00:33:15.780
his spirit and his um intention and his message rolling you know keep it we do keep that train rolling
00:33:24.500
and he was so much a part of my day i tell this story and you know and it still tickles me because
00:33:30.440
it's true i never missed 10 o'clock never missed and there were times when i was actually sitting
00:33:36.720
in the exam room at my doctor you know because they they chase after old people four or five times a
00:33:42.620
year so and you have to show up so i'm sitting there and it's at 10 o'clock and the doctor's getting
00:33:48.780
ready to you know talk to me or whatever it is and i tell him hush wait just a moment
00:33:54.500
wait a minute we're getting ready to do the simultaneous sip and of course he's just
00:33:57.700
i told my doctor to hush and wait because it was time for the sip now how bad are you when you do that
00:34:06.120
you know so um anyway did you not notice that scott scott was hushing away the staff during when he
00:34:15.420
was sitting in the hospital so he was doing the same thing you were yes yes yes we're that important
00:34:21.980
to each other you know you gotta have your priorities right so anyway the ambulance was
00:34:27.780
the one that blew me away yeah i know it's nuts we're nuts we're all nuts but we're nuts in a good
00:34:35.060
way so you know if whatever i can do you know i'm not a real tech savvy person i'm sitting here
00:34:40.820
literally holding my phone because erica gave me like four minutes notice
00:34:44.860
and i'm not set up for this sort of thing but i will try to be if i'm going to be you know recalled
00:34:53.120
in the future but um the important thing we got to hang together we can't fracture and let this
00:34:59.740
dissipate or fade so um i think it's a you know incumbent upon us to if nothing else take this to
00:35:08.440
the next level for scott you know and pull those people in who are are sitting on the fringes you
00:35:15.280
know those who were just starting out and now they're feeling lost and yesterday i wanted to
00:35:20.360
mention erica that yesterday i had a lot of people say what do i do now what am i going to do now
00:35:26.200
and i just i all i did was paste the link to x coffee with scott adams community and i said
00:35:33.640
we're not going away you know just go here join this community and there will be some arms that
00:35:41.700
will reach out for you and let you know what other options are coming available so i'm going to say to
00:35:48.040
all you beloveds out there and my lovies that if you happen to be on x and you're in scott's community
00:35:54.840
and you see a name that you don't recognize speak to them comment like give them some encouragement
00:36:01.300
bring them into the fold and um we will go from there and i will shut up now and let others talk
00:36:08.700
and it's so wonderful wonderful to be alive and to be with you and i loved him dearly
00:36:14.860
thanks beverly likewise thank you for uh mentioning the coffee yeah yeah yeah go mark uh mark's in
00:36:24.420
australia i keep forgetting beverly you're just so so astute and so many things you said and the
00:36:30.360
only thing i could think about as you were talking about all these people that are you know shall we
00:36:34.900
say lacking in compass um but uh if you've read god's debris uh one of the things that scott talks
00:36:40.900
about is that you know the vision that he had was that god had create you know separated himself out
00:36:47.360
into the world and maybe we are scott's debris right and i think that's kind of where we are is that
00:36:53.480
we are out here and scott has trained us and guided us and collectively we can create recreate scott
00:37:00.420
um and help each other so i just i really appreciate what you said beverly so i'm sorry i had to jump in
00:37:06.500
there erica um didn't mean to take over your show but uh oh my god it's not my show do i'm just a
00:37:13.720
control freak and and the chat's probably over there on local is like no this is just erica um
00:37:19.340
poor oh and he's like erica i have news stories and i'm surprised she hasn't used her hands more
00:37:27.080
oh and i'm trying to get to the news but it's so hard
00:37:36.620
um that being said yeah oh and beverly thank you so much for mentioning the coffee with scott
00:37:44.480
adam's community on x because it is there's like uh i don't know there's like 10 000 some
00:37:51.080
odd people on there now who want to be there for scott the only thing is i ask you you guys
00:37:55.820
if you see anything sketchy or shady just report the post for me so i can boot them out of the
00:38:01.180
community um because we want to keep it positive and i i'm not you're like i've turned into cernovich
00:38:07.700
like in the last uh few months and i am blocking like nobody's business like as soon as i get cranky
00:38:14.220
i'm like blocked blocked blocked and so i want to be able to do that for scott too like i don't
00:38:20.180
want to put up with any nonsense over there um his legacy and his memory which i can't believe i'm
00:38:27.460
saying um are too important to this universe so it's nothing about respect and love and community and
00:38:34.860
um it does not cost anything to be in that community there's a button on top that says join
00:38:39.700
just hit join and you're part of that community and share your stories and please you guys dig up
00:38:46.680
all the um videos of scott cracking up because i love them so much and i was listening to and you
00:38:53.900
can always scroll back and listen to his other um live streams but i was listening to one today it
00:38:59.700
was from like 10 months ago and it was just funny because when he opened he's like okay before we get to
00:39:06.420
the serious news and then he's like you know i i saw a story about a juvenile detention center
00:39:14.080
where the people in charge were setting up like uh what was the word like these like little warrior
00:39:22.880
battles with the the people that were in there and so you're like oh my like your first reaction as a
00:39:28.880
normal person is like oh my god they're gonna do like gladiator fighting with the juvenile inmates
00:39:34.240
but then like scott starts laughing and he's like i shouldn't be laughing he's like but he's like what
00:39:40.780
you know like these are juveniles and they're good and i'm just like you know what he just reminds me
00:39:46.040
like look at this story from different angles and if you can laugh about it a little bit it's okay
00:39:50.720
and he just made everything okay by seeing the funny and the spin and the humor and things but
00:39:57.720
um is there a news story that we should probably talk about today while we have uh 20 minutes left
00:40:06.560
i can pull up my feed hold on a sec okay i'm sure i'm sure something's happening i i know that there was
00:40:16.540
um a ruling from scotus on uh women's uh men being in women's sports and um yeah i don't think i caught
00:40:26.180
that one but um trump there's a win on affordability apparently rents are dropping
00:40:32.940
because of all the deportations um there's 20 metro areas they ranked them according to how rents are
00:40:40.840
changing and most of them are going down significantly like austin is down seven percent
00:40:47.020
san diego is down six percent san jose is down five percent dc is down almost five percent
00:40:52.660
so affordability is on the way for a lot of people can you forward that to the prime minister
00:40:59.720
of australia yeah well i don't know how much uh immigration you're having in australia but um
00:41:09.540
i suppose you might be having the same problem we are i mean i thought you kind of had that
00:41:14.160
ocean surrounding you that would protect you but um so do we supposedly and it doesn't seem to be
00:41:21.100
until trump shut down housing prices are atrocious yeah yeah and meanwhile elon musk is telling us we
00:41:30.020
don't even need to save for retirement because ai is going to just make everything abundant and it
00:41:34.800
won't matter so don't even that was my favorite story i was like oh my god let's go elon i don't
00:41:40.680
even have to save i'm gonna have so much money and prosperity according to him and ai i'm loving that
00:41:46.200
yeah don't worry about the fact that it probably also means money is worthless and we won't have
00:41:53.900
anything of value thanks elon but hey you know i don't know i i know musk has this vision i don't
00:42:02.480
know how it would ever happen that way it seems so unlikely to me um even if most of what he thinks
00:42:08.240
is going to happen is true like if robots and ai really do take over all the jobs and make everything
00:42:13.540
super cheap um i just i can't envision in my mind how the people who own the robots would just say you
00:42:21.640
know what we're going to just give all this wealth to everybody and have this universal high income and
00:42:26.940
have a huge tax on the robots and essentially just hand over all of our company wealth that we're
00:42:33.920
making off this super cheap manufacturing that we're able to do now to everybody just give it
00:42:40.020
away yeah it feels like it feels like um highfalutin socialism to me but what do i know
00:42:46.240
it just seems so much more likely that the companies would say i just want to keep all this for my profits
00:42:52.980
and maybe the prices will go down but um you know it would still end up being going to the companies i would
00:42:59.540
say that's a good thing mark yeah yeah so i work with my company we have um an ai that works in
00:43:08.260
defense secure networks so it doesn't have the same issues of a hallucination um but literally i was
00:43:16.020
using it to evaluate some some questions and uh it literally was like well it's implied this is that i
00:43:23.240
don't care what's implied i care what's written and i'm like i want you to look in this document
00:43:27.980
like those words don't exist in that paragraph literally have the document open and it has a
00:43:34.640
copy of it i'm like those words are not in that paragraph where are you getting these words and we
00:43:40.140
we have a very low hallucination ai and i'm like if ai if they can't solve that at this point like
00:43:47.820
i feel like ai is um it's useful it's helpful it's another tool but it just makes it just means that
00:43:56.420
one person can do a lot more i mean i use it to write emails i use it to do a lot of research but
00:44:01.580
i always have to verify it i'm verifying work instead of doing the research right so it will
00:44:07.560
tell me where something's at i can validate that and then move on so it allows me to triple my workload
00:44:13.840
but i don't think it's going to be replacing as many jobs i think that these these uh ai futurists
00:44:20.760
believe i know scott feels like it had ai's kind of plateaued now so um we'll see if it pushes forward
00:44:29.820
i i don't mind a little plateau that we can catch our breath with it and re-evaluate and just like
00:44:36.720
how much further do we want to go with it so maybe maybe this is a good thing right now i would still
00:44:44.120
encourage everyone to learn ai try it out and see how useful it is for you um i've been doing that more
00:44:49.720
and more and i'm amazed by what i can do and i use it every day at work and it saves me tons of time
00:44:56.940
i mean just like i don't know it probably over 50 percent productivity gain i mean it just you know
00:45:04.320
things that used to take me a week to do or at least several days i can just do it in like an hour
00:45:08.820
and and i do have to have expertise like you said to be able to know when it's giving me bs
00:45:15.280
and to correct it and to edit it and to even i think the magic part is knowing what questions to
00:45:23.420
ask and how to phrase it to give it specific instructions and not leave anything important
00:45:28.260
out and you know that i think that's the part that's difficult if you're just a novice like
00:45:34.820
in a field like if you're trying to you know have it tell you something about nuclear energy and you know
00:45:39.560
nothing about nuclear energy then i think you're going to have a hard time but if you are an expert
00:45:44.820
then you can ask the right questions with the right words and it can you know at least tell you what it
00:45:51.840
knows and it's kind of like a huge you know great research assistant but i think it's much more than
00:45:57.780
just like a search engine it's it's it can interpret things like you said how it can figure out what might
00:46:03.160
be implied by something or it can um craft things in a certain way or summarize things that might have
00:46:09.240
taken you hours to read and understand and and all of a sudden it's you have the gist of it in minutes
00:46:14.120
and um you know you can ask it to recommend things to you or you know give you options for things and
00:46:21.000
it does a pretty good job with that a lot of the time and it does so i i find it incredibly useful
00:46:28.000
and i do think it's going to make a huge impact on the business world just because the people who use
00:46:33.240
it might be twice as productive as the people who don't and that's going to be a huge differentiator
00:46:37.960
over time and it'll impact everything but yeah can i ask you a quick question i use uh grok and
00:46:47.260
chat gpt myself um grok usually if i just need an instant answer you know who was president in what year
00:46:54.600
i use chat gpt and one of my conversations with it uh is titled writing guidance and sometimes i'll
00:47:04.580
use it just to double check my syntax or you know is this actually a word you know and i would type it
00:47:10.760
in there and because i'd get a red squiggly on something that i thought was a common word so i use it
00:47:16.580
do you find that um over time you're training your conversations with chat gpt or ai to come to know
00:47:27.440
you because i'm to the point now i mean i've been using this well over eight ten months now well you
00:47:35.700
know as soon as it became available to us and i find that it is giving me answers that are really
00:47:42.400
almost customized for me you know it does remember certain artifacts it does remember questions that
00:47:49.100
i've asked it before um even though i haven't told it to remember it is starting to customize itself to
00:47:56.220
my experience do you find that as well that it's it you're actually training to get to know you
00:48:03.180
personally you know and not just a voice out in the void yeah i would say it's it's highly dependent
00:48:09.700
on the system that is something that in certain ai chatbots is kind of built in and some that it's
00:48:17.080
not and many of them and probably most of them now have capabilities to put in that memory that you
00:48:23.260
want it to have where you you can give it overall guidance like you can tell it globally like every
00:48:30.960
time i talk to you remember these things and i think you can give it essentially what they call
00:48:35.280
like a system prompt where every time it responds to you it first reads the system prompt and
00:48:41.840
remembers that first to put what you said into context and if you told it to respond a certain
00:48:47.100
way or with a certain length or in a certain style um then it'll try and do that every time and and i've
00:48:53.980
noticed that it does remember those things because when i give it certain guidance it often mentions
00:48:58.020
that guidance in its response which can be annoying sometimes because you don't necessarily want it to
00:49:03.060
mention it all the time but um but it you can tell that it's keeping it in mind and um then many of
00:49:10.340
them including chat tpt and grok have what they call projects now where you can group conversations
00:49:16.340
into a project and you can also upload files to it and it'll remember all the files that you upload to
00:49:23.420
that project when you're talking to it within that project and it will also give you the same sort of
00:49:29.580
system prompt for the project where you can say okay anytime i'm talking to you within this project
00:49:34.880
even if i start a new conversation within the project always keep in mind whatever i just told you
00:49:40.840
about this project so you can give it context you can say this is what this project is about this is
00:49:45.440
what we're trying to do you're an expert at this for this conversation and um you can steer it in a
00:49:51.540
particular direction for that project and then it'll customize what it says now within a session
00:49:58.400
usually these chatbots will remember what you just asked because it'll look back basically and say okay
00:50:05.840
let me predict the next word but it's the next word based on the whole history of that conversation
00:50:10.520
and so it's going to try and keep in mind all the questions and answers and other things that it's done
00:50:15.720
up to that point but every one of these chatbots has a limited context window that's what they call
00:50:23.180
it is a context window of how much it can remember and so if you keep talking and talking and talking
00:50:27.820
in that same chat window without starting a new conversation um then eventually the first stuff that
00:50:35.400
you told it it's going to forget because it might be let's say 128 000 tokens which is you know not
00:50:43.340
necessarily exactly the same thing as words but it's something like that and so if you keep going
00:50:50.520
for what i would say is too long with a conversation then it's going to start forgetting what you told it
00:50:55.480
and it'll remember the recent stuff that you just told it but it won't remember the stuff that was
00:51:00.520
farther back and it might even not even have that in the conversation anymore if you scroll up you'll
00:51:06.860
probably see only the context window part and then anything before that is just gone you it's not even in
00:51:11.680
your history anymore and um so what i've heard a lot that i try to keep in mind is you have to treat
00:51:19.660
these chatbots like they have alzheimer's they they have a short-term memory but they do not have a
00:51:25.660
long-term memory and if you start a new conversation it's like starting over with a different person
00:51:29.760
and so you have to set all the context again and you can't expect it to remember what you said
00:51:34.680
in a different conversation and if you if you don't start a new conversation then you you can't
00:51:42.220
count on it to remember everything even within that same conversation you have to keep reminding it
00:51:47.020
like you know if there's something that it already said itself that you wanted to remember you might
00:51:53.280
have to tell it remember you said this or you know remember i told you this and keep reminding it
00:52:00.240
like just keep a text file on the side or something and just paste it back in every so often if it's
00:52:06.020
important to just keep it on track and oh and i'm just i'm just laughing because i see andy over there
00:52:13.600
on the locals chat he said it's like talking with biden so it's exactly it's exactly like that you got
00:52:22.560
it and i mean i had you know it's it's not funny but i i had a father who had alzheimer's my
00:52:27.020
grandfather had alzheimer's yeah so i have experience with this you know i would ask my
00:52:31.240
dad a question late late in his life and it would be like 10 seconds later he wouldn't remember that
00:52:35.800
i just asked him a question um and you know i'd have to just repeat the question or he would answer
00:52:42.120
it multiple times not remembering that he already answered it i would ask him to tell me a story and
00:52:46.860
he would just start repeating himself you know every time and um you know that's really my experience
00:52:54.160
with ai too is that eventually it starts forgetting and it just won't keep the knowledge now again
00:53:00.140
different chatbots are different like gemini for example the google ai um that one does get to know
00:53:06.720
you and i think that's somewhat unique i think the other ones are trying to replicate it so chap gpt
00:53:10.820
might be starting to do this but i know that google is kind of hanging their hat on this where
00:53:16.780
if you have gmail and if you have uh google docs and you have a whole bunch of content in there
00:53:23.560
when you use gemini it's going to read all of that and it's going to know all of that or at least have
00:53:29.780
access to it so it can look it up on a moment's notice whenever you ask it something it might do a
00:53:33.940
search through all your mail forever that's on gmail and all your documents that you may have written
00:53:40.500
or uploaded or anything and it's going to use that when it responds to you and and i saw an article
00:53:46.160
from a journalist that said you know it used it to respond to an email like it said okay you know
00:53:52.620
this it's this person's birthday i want to send him a birthday message so craft a draft you know draft
00:53:57.780
this email for this person and it was he was blown away by the response because it it it remembered
00:54:03.900
details of conversations that these people had between each other years prior and it customized
00:54:10.820
this birthday response to their relationship and their specific details that no one else would have
00:54:19.020
ever known and and you know at first i think he was probably like how the hell did it do that but i
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think he realized that it must have come from all their email history and all their documents and he
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i think this person happened to do a journal every day in some kind of google doc format and so
00:54:33.960
it had like this whole person's whole life history and it really knew that person in detail and it could
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also talk like them because it could say okay you're telling me to draft an email for you
00:54:44.040
so i'm going to model it after the way you talk in this journal um owen i i don't mean to interrupt
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you but we're coming down on time and mark schneider is going to teach us something about nuclear social
00:54:57.520
license training i don't really think that's what it is okay it's ai related which i can see it was ai
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related yeah so go ahead so and this is where i was going in it is that uh so my company we
00:55:09.120
have ai clients that we build and so i went and i spent the good five to seven months building out
00:55:17.320
11 powerpoints making beautiful drawings and all that and one of my ai engineers built this in one
00:55:27.920
day so it took my powerpoints took my presentations with all the text files and it took him one day to
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build this and he said the the hardest part was that i had these crazy formulas in it and that took
00:55:44.200
half a day was to get the formulas that i had if i see if i could find them where like these crazy
00:55:50.580
formulas in there the way i formatted it in powerpoint the ai didn't like and he spent half a day making
00:55:57.280
those formulas look pretty using the ai agent like so that's what you can do with ai um and then i have
00:56:04.360
another uh another story to talk about ai because i think it's all related um but uh so my wife and i
00:56:11.160
we both submitted for uh a contract both our companies did her company did it the old manual method
00:56:18.760
our ai engineer built an ai client that it literally i i didn't had no idea that we had a meeting about
00:56:26.480
this because i was having a medical procedure um my wife sends me this hey are you submitting for
00:56:32.200
this i said hey are we submitting for this like oh by the way you're required to fill out two of
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these sections of it and then i reached out to her agent you're like hey do i need like send me our
00:56:42.240
two clients i have enough training on our clients to be able to create them and in 20 minutes i just
00:56:48.840
answered some questions and it wrote up my thousand word document um no more than a thousand words
00:56:55.360
with the word count based off of my inputs took me 20 minutes it took my wife a week to write each
00:57:02.080
one of her sections super useful so yeah so there's a huge amount of use but again as owen said you have
00:57:11.860
to you have to be an expert in the in the field so that's the hard part is that how do you get the
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expertise to be able to be able to do that right interesting i love that um marcella you're sitting
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quietly do you want to add in anything yeah um my name is marcella pena again um i um long time uh listener
00:57:39.200
first time here not not the first time here but um i started you know going back i'm sorry i'm gonna
00:57:47.600
go back to scott but uh as he would have wanted um i just wanted to a lot of us are sad you know all
00:57:55.920
of us are going to grief him for maybe our whole life um and i wanted to share um a reframe from him which
00:58:06.240
is get out get out meant like if you were being negative in your mind or you were thinking of the
00:58:13.040
past of regrets of things like that use that to go out do something useful today just live how he lived
00:58:25.760
which is always being useful always being helpful to everybody um and that is gonna help me today
00:58:33.600
uh deal with one day with thank you i love that yeah i think we'll have a lot of scottisms in our
00:58:44.960
thoughts in the forefront you know going forward and they will help us get through every day and
00:58:51.840
together and um you know he's just uh just seeing how much he's even taught people that were like oh my
00:58:59.840
god like these people are so brilliant and whatever but no scott taught all of us i recommend if you
00:59:05.440
guys did not see gutfeld last night um and you can go back and watch it the second block was a tribute to
00:59:14.160
scott and i mean i was like greg like you are my soul brother greg because we had the same um experience with scott
00:59:23.680
like how we found him when we found him you know i i knew what dilbert was i wasn't a dilbert girl and um
00:59:31.760
i just was like yeah like this guy is saying stuff that i am totally vibing with this is how i feel
00:59:38.800
and i knew when i first found him i'm like oh this guy scott we are totally going to be friends he's
00:59:45.680
going to be in my life forever like i totally vibe i felt like whichever plane you want to talk about
00:59:52.960
the simulation god put me you know into his periscope for a reason and um it's true and i'm i'm so
01:00:03.840
appreciative for the connection and the friendship we had and um that we could be confidants and um
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build something amazing and mostly because of this community that he put all of us together
01:00:18.480
and i love you guys so much um you know we're gonna try to do something like this every day this
01:00:25.040
is now the scott adams school okay so we're not trying to be scott obviously we're not scott no one
01:00:32.800
ever could be but you know if we could get together in the morning if it's not on video some days maybe
01:00:39.440
it'll just be on chat maybe on locals we could do like a micro lesson chat or we could do a reframe
01:00:47.120
you know whatever it is and just hang but no matter where you are every day you know we're going to
01:00:53.840
all take a simultaneous sip together and um and you know it'll be in honor of scott and of this
01:01:02.400
community and owen it's so hard because i can't see you so i don't know what you're seeing or if you're
01:01:09.200
reading the chat so sorry you guys sorry i'm just i'm just like this um if you guys don't know me
01:01:14.800
the locals know me and i'm just kind of the person that takes over sorry not sorry but um so sorry
01:01:23.440
owen so you know we're gonna we'll get more into the news as time goes on i'm sure so you know right
01:01:29.760
now it's just all new and um i wanted to bring up something that scott would probably have talked
01:01:35.920
about in his show today which was um president trump um posting about him um and giving him a nickname of
01:01:46.160
the great influencer and he would always um read um sometimes uh president trump's uh
01:01:55.760
um truth post uh on the show and and he would say he's the best writer ever and he's this and that
01:02:04.960
and i just wanted to bring that up because i know wherever he is he saw that and it was great to see
01:02:12.400
um also the tribute besides greg gufffeld the tribute by megan kelly and and glenn beck yeah
01:02:20.240
they really moved uh their audience and they were very moved by him but i'll give the floor to erica
01:02:28.640
again and to owen i know owen do you want to close us out and want to have you guys want to have a
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goodbye sip for just bye for now sip until tomorrow go for it let's do it we'll do it for scott you guys
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raise your raise whatever vessel you have and uh until we meet again okay to scott
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love you beaver thanks for coming on you guys bear with us we'll see you soon love you thanks for coming