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Real Coffee with Scott Adams
- January 15, 2026
Episode 3073 CWSA - The Scott Adams School 01⧸15⧸26
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we need paul collider yes the one and only hi guys we're just loading up here
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it still shows us pre-stream on my end okay let's check locals good morning
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okay i'm clicking live all right locals can you hear us
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howdy i think we're good oh all right good morning everyone welcome to the scott adams school
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i appreciate you all coming this is owen gregorian you can find me on x with that at owen gregorian
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um i'm sure you all know who i am but um we're just gonna have a show today with a few
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different speakers um we're not going to talk about the news today if you want to talk about
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the news i'll be having my normal after party on saturday and we can do that then
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um but i think we'll just have some topics more directly related to scott today so um
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we'll see how it goes and uh i think shelly is going to have an announcement tomorrow so you may
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just want to tune in tomorrow for that we don't have any details about that today but she'll be back
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tomorrow with an announcement so tune in for that and i will turn it over to erica and she can
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introduce our other speakers for today and we'll go from there thanks owen hi you guys i'm erica
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um i am i asked uh two guests to come on today with with sergio and owen and myself and uh i think
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for the simultaneous sip the locals are going to love this especially it's uh a regular listener of
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uh coffee with scott adams it's andy andy why don't you do it for us hey good morning all um
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i'm andy wang i'm a regular so you know most of you know who i am so hope you're all ready
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all you need is a cup or a mug a cup or a glass a dank of each other alice or sign a canteen mug
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jug or flask a vessel of any kind well yours with uh your liquid i like coffee and join me now for
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the unparalleled pleasure dopamine hit of the day the thing that makes everything better
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this simultaneous sip go
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to scott my friend absolutely to scott it's not as easy as it looks right andy
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no i i'm not as easy
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um so if we're not speaking if we just mute our mics and i am going to first introduce um
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jay plemons who you'll see on your screen so a lot of you on x have seen um jay's amazing clips
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of course of our beloved scott adams and um what i love jay about your clips is that
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you just know how to cherry pick the right thing i love how you insert some editing into there
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but what i love the most is the trolling vibe that you can give sometimes with those clips it's just
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i love it so um you guys the scott adams school is in the works in effect and i invited jay to come
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on to tell us what he's doing um for all of us so take it away jay introduce yourself and tell us
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what's going on yeah thank you erica my name is jay plemons i was just i've been on x uh posting
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clips from scott for the last year and a half or so um i've tried every day just to find you know the
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best you know the west one or two clips that i really enjoyed because i figured if i enjoyed it
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than someone else would so just fun trying to share that out um and then a few weeks ago if you
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remember uh in one of the pre-shows scott announced that what he wanted to do is take his micro lessons
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and even though some of them are still short still condense them down as we all know scott could
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sometimes ramble on uh and or alarm clocks would go off or different things would happen so what i'm
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doing there's about 260 micro lessons i'm going through clean up the audio condense it for time
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condense it for content and just get down to the the pure message of what was there so the added
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benefit of this that i really enjoy is i get to re-watch them on really learn them as i'm editing
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them so those will come out uh shortly but as i said so we are in the works of getting this content
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out there and uh i'm jay plemons on x i do appreciate all the messages people have sent me
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uh thanking me for putting the post out there that was my goal just kind of share and flood the
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timeline uh with scott's wisdom so thank you very much i'm oh my gosh you did such a great
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job and will continue to do and i have a i have a cat with dementia you guys so she's meowing a lot
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i'm sorry um but also are the are the micro lessons i don't know if you know this yet or you can speak
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to it but are they going to just stay on locals for the subscribers that was the original idea so i'm
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not really sure exactly everything that's planned out yeah it's going to be a locals because the
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micro lessons are on locals now um and so we're looking to and how we can incorporate that into the
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scott adams school as well go ahead okay i love that thank you and jay please chime in with us during
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the reframe like at any point just jump in if you want to participate we want you to okay thank you so
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much um yay so uh sergio um and andy did all right so you guys in your chat drop any emoji if
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you guys brought your book with you okay because we'll see and everyone's going to get extra credit
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if you brought your book and it could be on audible even if it's on audible drop an emoji we want to see
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okay so today um andy has picked a reframe from scott's book reframe your brain and shout out to
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the locals do you guys remember when scott was writing this and then he took a little trip to
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hawaii to focus and write but all we could hear were those crazy birds on the beach i don't remember
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the name of them but oh my god that was the creepiest thing ever we were so distracted
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but scott's something like babies right yeah like he's whining babies babies but babies screaming
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yeah yeah we're like oh i'm sure that's really good for your concentration um but it was amazing
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because don't you guys agree how scott would take us on trips with him like he never really he never
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missed a day so we went all over with scott and we were there for a lot of his um book writing
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processes and he allowed us to you know kind of workshop it with him so we all like especially
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this book we all really feel like we're a part of this so um andy why don't you tell us what page if
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you have it and which reframe and then we'll all turn to it and then why don't you and sergio and jay
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and owen chat about it okay um it's if you have the paperback it's page 19 if it's the hardback it's
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some other page but i'm cheap and i only got the paperback so um the reframe is your job is to get
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a better job now i'm just going to read a portion of it and then um yeah the usual frame your job is
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what your boss tells you it is the reframe your job is to get a better job and scott wrote don't
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confuse your job with the work your employer wants you to do the boss might want you to process all
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the pending orders by quitting time but your job is to get a better job everything else you do to
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service that reframe if it doesn't help you leave the job you are in an upgrade it might not be worth
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doing but don't worry that uh this line of thinking feels sociopathic doing a good job on
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your assigned duties is a way to look good for promotions the reframe reminds us that to be in
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a continuous job search mode including on the first day of work at the new job if that sounds unethical
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consider that your boss would drop you in a second if business acquired it in a free market you can do
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almost anything that is normal legal changing jobs for whatever reason you want is normal your
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employer's job is to take care of the shareholders it's your job to take care of you that doesn't
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always mean act selfishly but if being generous with your time energy seems as if it will have the
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better long-term payoff do that your employer might want to frame employees as quote a family unquote which
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is common but that's to divert you from the fact that they can fire you at will they don't have
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they don't want you to know that you have the same power to fire that part of the job of leadership
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is convincing you that what is good for the leader is good for you sometimes that is the case but keep
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your priorities straight you are number one now yeah i'm not going to mention any names but let's just
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call him mr x you know true story mr x worked at a company for about 10 12 years and his boss framed it as
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a family and kept everyone loyal and mr x rose up in the ranks made more money but then the boss's real
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family made demands the boss's wife made an ultimatum you can retire with me and move to florida or you can
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keep the business and i'll divorce you move to florida myself and i think for the boss you know it was
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cheaper to stay married and uh the boss sold the business and the boss stayed on for about six months
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as a consultant smoothing over the feathers keeping the family feel but once the boss got done with
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his uh six month uh you know um consultancy their new owners realized that mr x a senior guy being paid
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more money you know was worth about two brand new employees and they realized they could keep mr x
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to do good job on one project this is a smallish company 15 to 20 employees with a good book of
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business so they realized we could keep mr x and uh he can uh do a good job on one project or we can
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take his salary and hire two new employees to do a mediocre job on two projects and uh mathematically
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they made their decision and got rid of mr x now after mr x got laid off i told him hey i told him
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this reframe you know your job is to always get a better job he didn't think of it that way and then
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landed on his feet eventually and now he's doing that he's always on the lookout for new jobs and
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opportunities you know now scott in his book also mentioned um you know for smaller companies you got to
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give them a little more leeway that is true ish because mr x works for a smaller company
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and yeah there's no shareholders but then you know when circumstances change you know you got to be
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aware so that's uh that that's that's my uh contribution to this reframe and i mean sergio have
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you ever yeah in your work life and encounters have you yeah seen how they could drop you in a
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heartbeat despite well you're like a my that's a wonderful reframe to to really put everything in
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perspective i love how you say like you know comparing the families who's the real family right
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right the company is telling you hey we're a family may will you leave your wife i mean come on
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so it is uh it is that's the way you do it in in in my what i do i don't have a one one um boss i have
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a client so i have a about 100 clients so i diversified all my bosses thanks to scott that way i didn't have
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to treat each one as my only boss but my own my my goal is to always get a better uh client you know
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get a better client all the time so every time i get a client um i don't try to get rid of them i
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just try to help them become better clients so that's the way i've been doing it in my uh since
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2009 i've been freelance i haven't had a job uh you know with a boss so that's what i i've been doing
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just trying to get a um a better client but that was great and um i think owen has a lot of experience
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uh definitely i um you know i i think i always had a bit of this attitude but i probably had some
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of the opposite so i probably needed this reframe when i first started working um because i i definitely
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have always felt like i wanted to be loyal to my at least to the projects i was working on like i i
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would feel like i never wanted to leave a project before it was finished and so but i but i did have
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the flexibility to think okay if there's a better job i'm going to consider that and i i liked my first
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job out of college i like the company i like the people i was working for i like the work i was doing
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um i was getting promoted um and so everything was fine but the at that time um this was in the
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early 90s so it's a while ago but um salaries were going up a lot every year it's nothing like today
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um at least in my industry like it would be going up maybe even more than 10 a year like like just new
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college grads every year would be making a lot more than the prior year and even internally they would
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be giving out typically 10 raises to the people at my company so that's kind of what you came to
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expect is every year i'm going to be making 10 more than i was last year and maybe every few years i'd
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get promoted but really it was still probably a 10 or so raise every year and that's just how they
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did it and but the problem was the market was going faster than that like it might have been going
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up 15 or 20 a year and they they didn't do the uh they didn't do the internal raises as quickly
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and so i i eventually realized hey i'm not making what i should be making here and i started calling
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back headhunters that were leaving voicemails for me and i got an offer from another company just like
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mine and they said they'd give me a 40 raise just to come over so i did that um but i even then i was
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like well i want to finish off my project and i i offered that to my old company and they initially
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said oh yeah that's great thank you so much for doing that because it'll take us a while to find
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somebody to fill your slot um and then they panicked every day the time frame got shorter
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uh until they just told me to pack my stuff i think it was maybe three days later they just said pack
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your stuff you're done so i thought that was kind of unprofessional but you know that's their end of
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it they were looking out for their interests and i was looking out for mine and so i kind of learned
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my lesson of this reframe through that process that i have to look out for my own interests and not
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the company and um that next company i was at for probably eight years it was a long time but
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in the end what happened was they did a merger and all the leadership that was over my group all my
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bosses went away i got new bosses and i was a very top performer at the company i they had a very
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structured review process and evaluation process and i was always ranked in the top 10 every year
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for five years in a row and then all of a sudden they had to do layoffs and they got they had gone
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through all the low performers so they did something like five rounds of layoffs like it was a lot you
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know they they kept kept cutting people and cutting people and cutting people and so all the low
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performers were gone but they reached the point where they still had to cut more people
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and they they laid me off and i really couldn't understand why i'm like well how can how can this
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happen when i'm ranked in the top 10 every single year including this year i i don't get it and i i
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think what it came down to was just that loyalty of the leadership you know we had had this merger so
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a bunch of people came over with that and we had had people say you know like i i didn't know
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those people they didn't know me even though they could probably see my evaluations they didn't know
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who i was or have any of the history and i didn't have time to develop that with them so
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they just chose me to get rid of me because they didn't know me and they they were going to keep
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the people they knew and liked and that's just how it worked out and so that was another very stark
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lesson in this reframe of they don't care about me and and it was also that you know i think this
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might be a different reframe but you know you may end up better off after that um i ended up
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getting a job offer pretty easily by just calling up one of my buddies that had moved over to yet
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another company like this and said hey do you want to hire me and he said yeah sure i'd love to
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and i i just i had a new job lined up very quickly so i bounced right back and it was no problem
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um but i've been through this a number of times in my career you know i've had a lot of success
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and i think i can certainly say that my career has been a success but i've had a lot of setbacks
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like that where i've had to switch companies sometimes involuntarily and um i've certainly come away with it
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with this reframe of saying my job is to get a better job very solidly in my mind that whatever
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i'm doing i'm trying to develop my talent stack and and if you've ever switched jobs you know you
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got to update your resume and then the advice is usually you want to show results like you know
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what did you actually accomplish in terms of results did you make something 20 better or
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50 faster or what financial contribution did you make and if you can put numbers on your resume
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and show those exact results you're much better off when another employer is looking at you because
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that's the type of stuff that they love to see but if you're just getting a general description
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of tasks it's nowhere near as good so those are the types of things i would focus on in the context
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of this but i'll stop now i've been talking a while sergio go ahead oh it's a it's a good reminder
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also that the the word fair scott told us that it was invented for children and idiots right
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word of the fair and then we tend to think that it's real and we're working very hard and thinking
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oh you know fairness will pay off just automatically and what scott taught us especially in his book how
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to fail at almost everything still went big is that that is just imaginary you have to cut through it
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you have to find a way to to work on your skills and make it a corporation you instead of working
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for another corporation so that was amazing knowing fantastically you have so much experience in the
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corporate job you you are like a perfect inspiration for for scott's uh cartooning excellent thank you
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yeah i mean if you can focus on getting a certification that's going to get you to the next level
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or will look good on a resume you should do that even if you have to pay for it yourself and let
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unless it's super expensive but a lot of times employers will pay for it because it looks good
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for them too to have you with that certification and um if there's a choice you can make at any time to
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say can i volunteer for this extra thing or can i do something on the side or can i work on something
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in a different way so that it'll develop a new talent for my talent stack those are the things you
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should try to do you know it's it's very easy sometimes to get stuck doing the same thing over
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and over again and where you're not really growing you're not really developing and that's always the
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time in my career where i felt burned out was that i just i'm like well i've done this type of project
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six times in a row i really don't want to do it a seventh time and i would find ways to do different
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work and get different skills and and that always made me feel much better about my career and it made me
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more energized it made me feel like i was growing and that was a really good feeling so even apart from
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whether or not you want to move to a different company um you know just just growing is is
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something that makes you feel a lot more fulfilled and and i know scott has talked about things are
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either growing or shrinking and um you know i think anytime you can make sure that you're still growing
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and you're still developing new skills new knowledge getting better at what you're doing or making your
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company better or making a difference i think that's what ends up bringing a lot more meaning to your work
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jay what do you think yeah i totally agree in my experience just thinking the other side of it
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of your job is to get a better job um it's just in my experience with interviews yes they're asking
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you about what you've done in your current role but they want to know what you're doing what you
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would do in that role so if you're able to add on extra skills add on extra talents that you don't
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need necessarily for the role you're in now if you can do things that will help you in the next role
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that's where you're really going to shine through because you can talk about what you've done i've
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made this and then this but they want to know what are you going to do for me right not what did you
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for your old boss so definitely that's that's always been my kind of filters my job is to gain more
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skills for the next thing for the next better thing
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and yeah you have a you're an example of that right you have been learning ai
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um these all these ai animations you just learned it right yeah i would just i would learn i mean i
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you know sky was you know my news and a lot of it you know like the the god's debris and and the ai
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of him and and different things um i learned i did the i don't know if you've seen it but i did a
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tesla light show um with the cure the dawn song so it was just things like i want to know how to do
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it and so let me just look up you know learn how to do this youtube videos ask rock etc and then just
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that was incredible what you did with the tesla with the cure's song could you post that today like
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again so anyone listening right now yeah if they go to your account on x i'll comment it onto this
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on x as well awesome you guys have to see it it's so incredible and i wanted to say too that a really
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great example from another master student of scott's you guys if you guys listening whatever
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platform you're you are on if you could drop in the chat the trigonometry podcast um greg gutfeld was
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just on there the other day he did a long form podcast with them and i think it's within the first
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half hour but he's so perfectly is saying to them you know your your job when you have a job
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is to find another job and so you know he's like you're not supposed to sit there and stay there
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you're supposed to find another job all the time you know while doing the best year you could possibly
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do but you should always be trying to find your next job and so he even talks about um you know how
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he's been fired three times and i think he had i think all right i might be misquoting but i think he
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talked to scott about it he did and scott said well are you better off or worse off now that you you
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know since you got fired and he was like better and he's like right so sometimes you know it's
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sometimes things happen to push you like if you're not pushing yourself so my reframe is like let's say
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you did get fired i mean hopefully you didn't do anything wrong like you know you want to be competent
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and be a great employee no matter what you're doing but you've got to put yourself first and
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be reaching and looking and if you did get fired then look at it like the universe's way of saying
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to you like look like if you're not going to leave we're going to get you out now like now take your
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talent stack and everything you've learned and go find the next thing so um i i just want to say i
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recommend watching trigonometry with greg gutfeld it was great and greg inserts so much of scott's
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wisdom into everything he says and you'll hear it all the time when you listen to greg talk so please
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if you guys could drop that in the chat even just the name of the podcast so people can see it um that's
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a good listen and um sergio and andy do you want to say any more about that well um jay uh you are
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well trained by scott because the uh your job of getting a better job on the very next page is
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pick up skills at the whole job so yeah if you have the opportunity be shy and learn something and
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you're right jay and it was and scott wrote it on the very next page all right thank you
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yeah no that was fantastic an example of um how putting all these skills together it can manifest
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into a profession because again a i'm glad that greg gutfeld mentioned the use tyros as an example
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right of not having to be the one percent all you have to be just the top 10 percent in a few things
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and you become unstoppable thank you erica thank you erica oh no thanks you guys um so listen um
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shelly will post today's video and if you guys want to continue the discussion like even in the
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comments under the videos do that and i think that you know we should everybody listening you know take
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some time to scroll through the comments wherever you see them and maybe ask for help or opinions or
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advice and you know workshop it together even after this ends so you know the the video will be here with
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the reframe you guys keep talking about it um i think anyone who's had experiences like this you know
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maybe be a mentor to people asking questions in the comments and see if we can like all collectively
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be useful for each other um everybody's got a different talent and so um i think we should
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come together um as scott's debris and really help push each other up with everything we can
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um the other thing i wanted to say is we also would love feedback do you guys like this format today of
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doing a reframe um we want to you know we we've been um all grieving and struggling right now and
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it's very important to scott that you know we keep his work alive which we all want to do um so if you
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like this kind of format it helps us to have some constructive polite feedback and um and to kind of know
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what you guys want to see also as owen said before um he has his spaces show on saturday and sometimes
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he does a subscriber show on sunday so what i want to say is moving forward we're going to do this live
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stream um for now monday through friday okay so monday through friday we'll be here it might not be me
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but someone will be here and then on the weekends i would urge you guys um to follow owen gregorian
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and you guys again people you know owen's name can you drop it in the comments so people can see his
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username and also he has a subscribe feature you can listen to the spaces for free but he also has a
00:29:25.160
subscribe feature at the top of his uh profile it's um very affordable and um i look at it like
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he takes so much time for us every day uh cultivating news stories and helping and then doing these
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spaces that are so amazing that i look at it like you know if we all contribute to his subscription
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it's like we're we're like hey we're buying you a nice dinner putting some gas in your tank to say
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thank you for your time because his time is way more valuable than a dinner trust me um so please
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subscribe to that and if you guys have questions again like drop them in the comments for everybody
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and tune in tomorrow um for shelley's um she has uh some information and announcement for us in the
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morning and um i want to toss it over to sergio if you want to wrap up with anything before we go
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oh and i just want to say that this was great uh start i think you know we didn't catch fire
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nothing broke down the machines work for us today so scott is like smiling on us you know he's working
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on those technology gods um i want to uh thank everybody for all the support uh losing scott is
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is like losing a family member but nobody knows all my every all my neighbors don't understand
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nobody knows what's going on right so we're just grieving internally and um nobody's going to call
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you and say like oh that cartoonist died oh i'm sorry for you they don't get it so right um thank you
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erica thank you owen and and anybody that shelley for keeping the glue you know being the glue thank you
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for that and um and i'm going to be teaching uh mean how to make memes uh we're going to have a
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micro lesson on that how to make memes in one minute in one minute just like me you don't have
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to talk like me but you're going to be able to prompt memes uh that like i do the same way so i
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asked eric about that earlier and uh and i think we're going to work on something on that right
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oh if you don't know yes sergio makes the best memes you guys are so good make sure you're
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following sergio i'll post um everybody's user handle as soon as this ends i'll post everyone's
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user handle okay and um i say with that oh and thank you so much as always and shelly and uh and
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sergio and jay thank you so much for popping on today and participating and andy wang my jersey
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brother so good to see you and thank you for picking an amazing reframe and for discussing it with us
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letting us and letting us chat and you guys let's have a closing sip as always uh go out today and
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be useful and um to scott that's got
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bye guys see you in the morning goodbye everyone talk to you soon
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