Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 3081 - The Scott Adams School 01⧸27⧸26

00:00:00.000 the simultaneous sip i have a video okay perfect if i can pull it up it'll take me five minutes now

00:00:06.440 good morning everybody good morning let's get everyone streaming in

00:00:13.460 we had a little issue a tech issue like what happened to your label owen

00:00:20.160 owen's there yeah he's there there's a benefit in all these technical problems that's how you

00:00:27.700 know it's not ai and this is completely real oh yeah this is real you guys you want to just fly

00:00:35.420 off the handle with me today because the video i see you guys wait good morning hi so everything

00:00:43.480 is so funny today we uh all were traveling yesterday snow storms this and that and

00:00:49.560 sergio might i just add in what happened this morning real quick okay and then a car just

00:00:55.360 drove into sergio's apartment that happened right here right right there right now shelly's uh

00:01:03.620 yeah his wall's broken the cops are there um and shelly's having a technical glitch and the video

00:01:10.700 i save for the simultaneous sip i don't know where it is so i think um i'm gonna just pick a random

00:01:17.960 video you guys and we're just gonna do the sip and see how it goes okay oh i think this is i think this

00:01:24.640 is the one i wanted of course we do we have a guest today we'll tell you who that is this is

00:01:31.720 just fun you guys so listen you know we're gonna do the sip and then we're gonna make proper

00:01:36.500 introductions shelly can um see us she can't hear us but if she talks we can hear her okay so you guys

00:01:44.500 i have no idea what's going on let's get this sip we'll do a little minute to compose ourselves

00:01:49.380 and then we'll regroup and exhale okay take it away scott and let's go

00:01:56.460 what is my lighting look wrong today

00:02:05.980 hey everybody come on in is there anything to talk about today did anything happen last night that's

00:02:21.340 worth discussing oh i think so oh yes but first before we get to the discussing part

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00:02:58.680 well of course we'll be talking about the debates but a couple of little tidbits before that

00:03:11.140 number one uh we all heard the story the last 24 hours or so about uh national intelligence uh director

00:03:21.660 john rackliffe it declassified some information that indicated that uh russia was aware that hillary

00:03:31.160 clinton was trying to implicate russia uh and uh some kind of collusion with trump as part of a plan to

00:03:41.460 take attention away from her email now as of this morning politico is reporting that it's fake news

00:03:50.720 that that's not actually something that happened now i believe that's not the final word rather that

00:03:58.420 the uh the intelligence agencies look like maybe they have some evidence of this but we shall see

00:04:06.600 i remind you of the following 80 20 rule are you ready here's the 80 20 rule of the month before

00:04:16.880 election day it goes like this any new story that happens in the month before election if it's a new

00:04:25.880 thing you haven't heard of before a new twist on a thing would be the same thing there's an 80 chance

00:04:32.100 it's not true doesn't matter which side it comes from doesn't matter what the topic is if it looks like

00:04:39.340 it's good for anybody and bad for somebody else in terms of the election you should figure just

00:04:45.740 automatically there's 80 chance it's not true so we'll see if that one's true um i have to admit

00:04:52.760 it had the sound of not being true you know if you had to place a bet on it you said okay you're no expert

00:05:01.700 but i want you to place a bet on this thing and the thing is that that putin actually had a conversation

00:05:08.760 or the intelligence people did over in russia about hillary clinton trying to distract with a russia

00:05:15.640 collusion hoax what what do i tell you about stories like that are they a little bit a little bit too on

00:05:24.380 the nose you know what i'm talking about a little bit too perfect timing timing of the story is a

00:05:31.500 a little bit too good it might be true but i would put a 20 chance on it if you want to know the odds

00:05:39.760 ah okay i thought that was a good reminder and you're gonna ask me and i'm gonna tell you that that

00:05:46.620 is youtube number 1140 okay 1140 and if you want to finish watching that it's a great episode of

00:05:57.800 course um so hi you guys um we are fresh off of scott's amazing memorial service where um we were

00:06:08.180 lucky to attend and honestly shelly uh wished everybody could attend but um scott wanting

00:06:16.620 it live streamed was just an amazing gift and seeing how many views it had he really wanted

00:06:23.620 everybody to feel um included and i think we all did and it was it was intimate and beautiful

00:06:31.360 and we're going to talk about it on friday um because we do have guests this week okay stella

00:06:38.260 we do have guests this week and um friday we want to spend more time like answering questions and

00:06:44.780 just talking to you guys about it but um let's all say a little something about it i'll introduce

00:06:49.840 marcella our beautiful marcella um if you want to just say a couple of words and we'll save it mostly

00:06:55.640 for friday um it was an honor to be there uh representing the beloveds there um and i just

00:07:06.780 all the speakers were wonderful um shelly was amazing um and i just i don't know why i hear all this audio

00:07:15.740 but right now um i just loved being there um it was difficult to go to the house see you know the golf

00:07:25.940 the mini golf uh the mini golf uh the tennis court the the office the uh the little museum that he

00:07:34.560 created because it you know it felt like we were home like all of us felt like i think erica mentioned

00:07:42.500 like oh i know every single almost every single inch of this house and i think all of you would

00:07:48.520 have felt the same way um we were home we were with family and it felt so intimate and so uh fun to see

00:07:59.640 the people that we have known each other for years almost a decade and uh well about a decade and it was

00:08:08.280 just um you know we think that this is what what scott would have wanted and uh we're very happy and

00:08:16.600 proud of his family and how they you know put on the event but it was also very funny um especially

00:08:24.600 mike michael malis and greg gotfeld but um i'll say more on friday and i'll turn it back to erica

00:08:31.980 oh thanks okay so um owen i'm gonna grab you real quick and if you want to say a few words about it

00:08:39.800 yeah well i thought it was amazing um i posted that i think it was probably the most useful service

00:08:45.720 of its kind in history um you know if you just took the the lessons that were referred to in that

00:08:52.060 service and and implemented in your life it would probably be enough to make you successful

00:08:55.840 um and it was just it was great that all the speakers had these different perspectives like

00:09:02.560 they all had different types of relationships with scott so they all had kind of like a different

00:09:06.340 angle um you know joel starting out with sort of the biographical stuff was great because he kind of

00:09:12.060 set the context for things but then a lot of the other ones were more like well this is how i knew

00:09:15.660 scott and this is what he did for me and um it was just great and you know i love meeting the family

00:09:22.960 and all of you and um it was really it was just a great experience and you know it was at the same

00:09:30.220 time sad but uh you know i think to me it was more uplifting than anything else oh that's awesome

00:09:36.000 sergio oh yeah i agree 100 the most useful service in history i like that that would be the label for

00:09:44.080 that one um yeah it was a it was an incredible experience it was just like uh i don't know like

00:09:51.040 somebody pulling me out of this reality and taking me out to the matrix and and showing me the the oracle

00:09:58.560 a temple you know of crystal i don't know because uh i see scott now as a superhero i don't see him as

00:10:07.760 a normal human being anymore he has transcended now in in that house is the the origin story of um

00:10:15.760 of a superhero i know i know he wasn't born in that house right but his essence is there everywhere

00:10:22.480 everywhere everywhere you walk through you can feel him uh my favorite part of the house quickly

00:10:27.600 is um there's a in the man cave uh walter gave me like a little private tour of it

00:10:33.520 and he showed me this little square where uh scott drew a dillbert cartoon next to a hole on the wall

00:10:42.400 and uh and he had to like wouldn't he had to um fix that wall right but he left that square

00:10:51.280 he left the square to remind them uh because that meant breaking through breaking through the other

00:10:57.040 side and um and that's the one thing that i i was like wow he left that in here to remind us all that

00:11:03.360 there is another side and we don't have to stay here we can break through so yeah that's it thank you

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00:11:38.640 connexontario.ca yeah scott's a very intentional human being and thoughtful and um yeah we'll talk

00:11:46.800 more about it on friday it was um it was beautiful um so you guys who's that man in the corner that's

00:11:55.680 bj you guys i'm gonna let bj introduce himself um we've been friends through x for a while and

00:12:04.400 communicating for a long time um i find you to be very inspiring bj and just an all-around great human

00:12:12.880 a patriot um he is our neighbor to the north shout out to canada where's mike bird and montreal galaxy

00:12:20.720 all the all you canadians we love you um but bj i'm gonna let you introduce yourself we're gonna put

00:12:26.480 your handle in the chat so people can follow you which i recommend and why don't you tell us a little

00:12:32.880 bit about yourself and what's going on in your world yeah so a couple things firstly it is um it

00:12:40.000 is an honor uh i wish scott was the one here and not us and i think we all we all feel the same way

00:12:48.160 but um you know long time listener first time caller so i really appreciate uh you you know having me on to

00:12:55.280 to share my perspective scott and i as many other people uh had communicated uh semi-regularly

00:13:01.840 privately online uh and in my case it was uh it was it was actually before the trucker convoy and i'll

00:13:08.960 get to that in a second but um that's kind of how people know me in the united states or when i speak

00:13:15.360 at conferences around the world including el salvador by the way uh marcel i spoke there a year and a half

00:13:21.040 ago and uh so those of you may remember in february 2022 there was a massive protest against the

00:13:30.400 lockdowns and mandates in canada and uh i was in charge of communication messaging um and essentially

00:13:40.720 uh when i would just i would describe that you guys would understand the reframing of it uh when they

00:13:47.520 they were i was reached out to when there was about 10 or 11 truckers that were starting this

00:13:51.520 protest against the government and they said we're going to go to trudeau and we're going to protest

00:13:56.480 and we need somebody who has some media communications understands podcasting which is

00:14:01.040 the other thing that i do and i said and tell me if you guys know this if you can spot what i did

00:14:07.600 i said no we're not going to protest trudeau we're going to celebrate freedom we're going to celebrate

00:14:15.120 being canadian and we're going to celebrate bringing people of different opinions together

00:14:21.440 um and i wrote an article about it about a year year and a half ago called you know the greatest

00:14:25.680 reframe in canadian history that's what i was trying to do and i think scott understood that um so i i

00:14:33.280 work as a journalist uh privately you've seen maybe since my articles in zero hedge daily bell

00:14:38.880 national telegraph a bunch of publications i produce podcasts uh for a little startup that i

00:14:45.600 have that i'm working on from for quite some time and uh you know i'm coming to the the tail end of

00:14:52.720 trucking which was you know my and my brother's escape who's a police officer during that ridiculous time

00:15:01.680 in canada where we could go across the border to the united states and t see some sentiment

00:15:08.800 of normalcy because as bad as it was was there it was uh significantly worse here so that that's

00:15:15.840 kind of me and scott ended up talking slightly before uh over instagram and then the trucker convoy

00:15:23.680 happened and what's very interesting and i recommend people this is kind of a plug for the scott adams

00:15:29.120 school and the direction you guys are going that month during the the trucker protest which is this

00:15:35.280 honking for freedom.com if you want to read more about it that was the one time in the past 10 years

00:15:41.360 or so that i didn't have time to listen to scott every day that was the only time and i think i caught

00:15:47.280 one or two episodes during that period so what i've done uh my way of um memorializing um scott was to go

00:15:58.080 back to that time frame and start listening to that entire month of coffee with scott and adam's

00:16:05.440 episodes and i want to thank all of you for your simultaneous sips in support of the trucker convoy

00:16:13.440 that was amazing i'm about halfway through so i'm very excited to see how scott sees uh views how things

00:16:21.200 ended with us in ottawa but that's that's the short version of a very long story of who i am and also

00:16:27.360 i guess to add the a pin on this for us to discuss this later i had run for our for parliament in

00:16:33.760 canada so i got involved in politics my business was on the university campus and i saw everyone go

00:16:40.320 insane around 2012 2013 and i decided hey let's let's get involved in politics and see if we can

00:16:47.520 help out and help change things and reframe things and so that's how he got me into paulson when scott

00:16:55.600 talked about the gears of the machine the gears behind the machine uh that really resonates with me

00:17:02.000 because i've lived it i've experienced it and i still have lots of support on the inside of our

00:17:07.120 political establishment here that's amazing so you you were that guy that was like i'm putting my money

00:17:12.960 where my mouth is i'm gonna get involved as best i can which you did so what resulted from that and

00:17:19.360 tell us what you've been doing now uh the short version is and you know people say this is hyperbolic but

00:17:27.360 it is the reality that's what ended covet that protest ended covet around the world and it i'm

00:17:34.640 without getting to a long-winded explanation of it but essentially when we started to see politicians

00:17:39.440 shift and do message testing and one day they would say they're in support of it the next day

00:17:46.400 they would say they're not the next day they say they would that's a political party and the lobby

00:17:51.520 class using their polling companies to message test and that's when i knew it would end and what was

00:17:58.160 supposed to be a massive super spreader event remember all of that oh they're all super spreader events

00:18:02.800 well it turns out it wasn't and uh very quickly you could see the establishment was trying to

00:18:10.080 figure out how can we back away from this policy but still save face so oh we're gonna get rid of

00:18:16.880 the policy in three weeks in a month you know and yeah i used to troll them online nothing to do with

00:18:23.600 truckers right because i knew from people behind the scenes i knew from having a brother who's a police

00:18:29.680 sergeant what was happening within government and they all knew it was um it was time to end it all

00:18:36.880 and it ended because of because of that protest um and since then now i've you know i i have a

00:18:44.480 you know a moderate following so i do i publish a lot of articles on my sub stack um that's what ends

00:18:50.240 up getting to daily bell telegraph zero hedge that sort of stuff i've been speaking at bitcoin conferences

00:18:56.720 around the world because i'm a big uh bitcoiner as well uh but the other thing is you know when i got

00:19:03.600 involved in paul and paulets used to get to meet a lot of really interesting people and one of the

00:19:07.680 people i met was um the real life jack ryan so he was military he's retired but he was a seeking

00:19:16.000 operator who became an intelligence analyst and his particular area of expertise as a court expert and

00:19:24.160 witness in parliament in the senate was islamic terrorism funding and all the networks of uh

00:19:32.320 money laundering and how that entire mechanism works so when i met him i said you should do a podcast he

00:19:37.760 said that's great i have no idea no idea how to do one really great i can make a podcast for you

00:19:42.560 and we did one and it ended up becoming the podcast that governments around the world were listening to

00:19:48.160 and it's very interesting to see some of our information has made its way through the political

00:19:54.960 establishments around the world and seems to be having an effect uh on policy so for four years i

00:20:00.880 worked with uh this guy built out his platform online and they gave me a crash course in how this entire

00:20:08.480 infrastructure works which is why i see the somali somalian stuff going on in minnesota i'm like oh

00:20:13.920 yeah i know exactly murray that's exactly what happens in parts of canada and in latin america as

00:20:21.600 well uh yeah i see it all over the place in columbia when i used to live in columbia and i go there

00:20:26.240 frequently and i see that happening in latin america so yeah that's that's a short like i said there's a

00:20:31.840 long story and there's a lot of things that i've been involved in to try to help all of us push back

00:20:37.200 against this this extremist insanity that we're seeing on both sides and try to bring people

00:20:44.000 together which i think is the that was what scott was trying to do uh broadly and you know so let me

00:20:51.520 go back let me go back to the the trucker rally because to me you know obviously i'm from the united

00:20:57.680 states so i'm looking at it as an outsider but it was fascinating it was it was obviously a psyop

00:21:03.200 and there was so much persuasion on both sides and you know so maybe you could tell us a little

00:21:08.400 bit more about what that was like on the inside like how it was organized and you know how you

00:21:12.720 managed all the i don't know if you want to call it public relations or communications um and what it

00:21:18.400 was like to be part of that because i you know as an external observer i remember all the build up to

00:21:23.520 it where it was like you know the convoy and so everybody knew it was coming and it was gaining steam

00:21:30.000 as it when as more trucks were getting on the road and then you know there was the like the joy of all

00:21:36.880 the people like you had all the bouncy castle stuff going on and and kids around and that made it very

00:21:42.480 different than like some angry rally where people were you know maybe being violent and that made it

00:21:47.760 probably harder for them to counter um but then they did like send somebody in with a nazi flag and and

00:21:54.000 you know so they tried to dismantle it all these different ways and none of it seemed to work so

00:21:59.680 how did all how did all that happen and what was it like being on the inside of that uh we could talk

00:22:05.840 for days about it was total chaos i mean this is how you can see your protests that you have in the

00:22:12.240 united states they're completely foreign funded and organized they're corporations that are staging fake

00:22:18.800 protests because a real protest like what ours was there's no uniform signs there's no uniform

00:22:25.680 messaging everybody wants to be in charge and the political establishment gets involved and tries to

00:22:32.400 tear it apart and by the way this is why they get upset with me on the conservative side it was both

00:22:37.280 sides it was both the liberal party and the conservative party both sabotaged us and sending their people

00:22:44.480 and there's a reason for that and i'll give you a little context in order for justin trudeau to

00:22:49.040 have gotten elected america is much smaller it's about the size of california in terms of population right

00:22:55.040 and it it took uh jerry butts who was his right-hand man four years to raise 40 million dollars

00:23:02.560 to get trudeau elected we raised 25 million dollars cumulatively in three weeks so we became the

00:23:11.280 official opposition so we saw when there was an inquiry that i and others had to testify in

00:23:18.240 that was there was communication between the leaders of the liberal party and the leaders of the

00:23:23.440 conservative party saying yes we both agree we got to put an end to the protests like hey hey who's

00:23:30.000 signing you on guys but so what they did is they brought people in to kind and this happens all over

00:23:36.000 the place this is why so many grassroots movements get sabotaged is they always do that when it's

00:23:42.800 grassroots it gets some momentum they'll have somebody who will get involved and try to brand

00:23:50.240 that person as the face around it and then they'll say something positive about the mid-century germans

00:23:57.680 and then everybody the regular people will see that on the news they'll do that just as the legacy news is

00:24:03.120 there and then regular people who are just seeing a little clip on the news as they're cooking dinner

00:24:09.120 are like okay those people are just crazy and they dismiss it they did it to the tea party movement

00:24:13.840 they do do it to any sort of grassroots movements that happens across the western world because the lobby

00:24:20.320 firms that run these strategies are international they have offices in the uk and canada in the united

00:24:27.600 states and argentina and the netherlands all over the place and that's what's leading to some of the

00:24:33.280 chaos that's why i'm not a red versus blue guy uh you know there's good and bad on all sides and i

00:24:39.200 think that's something that all of us here agree on about not being so pigeonholed in one or two sides

00:24:45.760 right does that make sense yeah it definitely does i mean i there's the same dynamic here i you know we

00:24:51.120 often refer to it here as the uni party where it's just like both sides are part of this establishment and

00:24:56.240 it's kind of not not really that different whether they're a republican or a democrat because they're

00:25:00.400 just looking out for themselves they're protecting the system and they're trying to keep their own

00:25:06.240 network strong and their own financial positions strong and um you know it's it's throughout our

00:25:11.920 our whole government so i think there's a lot of parallels there but you know what owen i i've had

00:25:16.800 a lot i spent a lot i spent most of my time in the united states and spent a lot of time in florida

00:25:21.360 and and have most of my life and i was giving a speech because of all this background of working

00:25:27.760 with in this intel analyst and stuff uh and i learned so much about this very prominent issue

00:25:33.520 right now i gave a speech uh a couple of speeches last year on national security threats to the united

00:25:39.040 states and i had some people in the audience they were telling me you know oh well we have a uni party

00:25:46.240 here i'm like oh no no no no you guys i understand the sentiment but i gotta tell you that's not a

00:25:53.520 uni party you know what a uni party looks like it looks like in canada where you have the conservative

00:25:59.680 party and the liberal party and you have all these other smaller parties that don't really mean much

00:26:03.760 anymore right and when the the deputy leader of the conservative party was a lobbyist for the firm

00:26:12.880 founded by justin trudeau's chief of staff that's a uni party so let's map that out again the deputy

00:26:21.040 leader of the conservative party worked for justin trudeau's chief of staff and what did she do she

00:26:27.360 worked in a position on lobbying on behalf of walmart to close small businesses and keep walmart open during

00:26:37.040 covid that is i mean you guys would be in awe of our degree of uniparty look i understand what you're

00:26:44.560 getting at there but it is so much worse in the parliamentary system because the parliamentary

00:26:49.280 system allows for it much more easy i think your system's actually much better yeah i mean i certainly

00:26:54.240 can see that i i understand especially with the parliamentary system where you have to have sort of a

00:26:59.040 coalition government so it's it it would encourage that more right because we've certainly evolved in

00:27:06.880 the u.s to be more of this two-party system where you at least have to pretend you're opposing the other

00:27:12.720 side it doesn't always happen but you know but it's gotten very polarized where you know the the democrats

00:27:19.520 are always just trying to obstruct everything the republicans are trying to do and the republicans are

00:27:22.880 trying to obstruct what the democrats want to do and it ends up with just gridlock most of the time

00:27:27.600 where nothing gets through congress and unless you have majorities everywhere like we happen to have

00:27:33.520 now you can't really get anything passed and even now it's it's hard because of the the razor-thin

00:27:38.320 margins but i i i get what you're saying is that you know it's it's more i don't want to say incestuous

00:27:44.720 but i just did um but you know people are like if you don't have a coalition then you like can't

00:27:52.240 even function as a government at all right isn't that kind of how it is like you have to have some

00:27:57.520 majority to really even have a prime minister right and we we don't have the coalitions in

00:28:04.240 the same way we we did in the last the last few years of the trudeau uh administration but their

00:28:09.440 coalitions are not as popular here as they are in uh europe for a whole bunch of reasons but i i get

00:28:15.280 your sentiment i i understand exactly what you're saying and by the way just a little thing on on canada

00:28:20.960 that everybody here will understand in the spirit of scott i'm gonna ask a question to which all of

00:28:29.040 you already know the answer i won't even have to finish the question okay what percentage

00:28:36.560 of canadians will always vote for the liberal party no matter what no matter how communist they

00:28:45.840 become no how irrational what percentage of can and i know from my campaign because we see the data

00:28:52.320 all the time what percentage always vote for the liberal party go i can see the answers rolling in

00:28:59.760 already what are they saying 25 dead on dead accurate isn't that amazing so when the conservative

00:29:08.240 the win the conservatives get uh 30 percent or 31 percent when the liberals when they get 30 percent

00:29:14.800 so they're always they're always fighting over a fight a margin about five or six percent of the

00:29:21.360 country that's staying home that's all that they're catering to but yeah and this is why canada is such a

00:29:26.880 disaster um and you know the gerrymandering and how the writings are mapped out are different a different

00:29:32.640 story but canada is not the left-wing country that everybody says it is just like columbia is not the

00:29:39.920 left-wing country like everybody says it is it's just how the the writings have been dispersed over

00:29:46.880 years has led to a system that people get this and this is why you could see that with the trucker

00:29:53.840 convoy those people were not left-wing and they were sometimes right-wing a lot of centrist people

00:29:59.280 they're just pragmatic people that own businesses don't engage in protesting uh that's why you saw

00:30:06.800 all sorts of different conflicting messages and back to your original question yeah man it was total

00:30:12.480 chaos it was up at six in the morning you're collapsing 11 30 12 o'clock at night the first half of the day

00:30:20.960 was trying to cancel uh press conferences from random people that were always a little bit off that the

00:30:29.040 political establishment would find the craziest person on the street and say you know what you

00:30:33.600 should be the one speaking for the on behalf of the truckers it was a setup right so that was half of

00:30:38.880 our time was just damage control and that's what a real protest looks like a real protest you can't set

00:30:44.320 it up in 15 minutes and get everybody together on one message chanting and as all of you know from

00:30:51.200 from scott's uh from what scott's taught here and what you know all of us who've studied hypnosis

00:30:56.480 shout out to mike mendel uh that's where i studied hypnosis the chanting is the indicator of brainwashing

00:31:03.840 that's why they're all chanting we weren't chanting we couldn't even get people to say the same thing

00:31:08.320 i was trying to get people just focus on mandates and the arrive can't happen no but all this i'm like

00:31:13.600 i get it i get it but we gotta have something where the government is in a position where they can meet us

00:31:20.400 somewhere and we can find some paths path forward together uh but yeah man it was total chaos so let

00:31:27.440 me let me transition a little bit to scott adams i mean you i saw you were planning to talk about this

00:31:32.640 in terms of his influence on you can you talk a little bit about how how scott has influenced you

00:31:37.600 yeah he um it's pretty wild so i when i was a little kid a little kid when i was in high school

00:31:45.920 yeah i was 16 17 years old what better way if you're like you know one of the the computer car

00:31:52.160 guy that just gets really bored in class other than music class uh me and my buddies what would

00:31:58.880 we do we would go skip classes and either sit around in the lunchroom or go to um or go for coffee

00:32:06.240 down the street and i remember i i don't remember the specific day but i remember it's in the winter

00:32:11.600 i and i remember the temperature was like for some reason and my buddy shows me this cartoon called

00:32:18.720 dilbert and this was in 1992 i think 92 93 and it was brilliant it was hysterical and that just became

00:32:29.520 like something that we would periodically when a dilbert cartoon would come out we just get together

00:32:33.760 and talk about it and okay just thought you know you grow up you kind of move on with life and it's kind

00:32:40.480 of moved beyond not dilbert just life gets busy went to school got an education got into the workforce

00:32:47.120 all that sort of stuff and you know i i had a number of positions in the corporate world in

00:32:53.120 marketing communications that sort of thing which is kind of what led me down this path into understanding

00:32:59.440 hypnosis over time and i remember i after i had read cialdini's first book many years prior i read his

00:33:07.440 second book persuasion and i thought i should find some sort of podcast that talks about this because

00:33:15.040 i'm really fascinated by it and well lo and behold i went into google i searched cialdini podcasts and

00:33:22.000 scott adams comes up i'm like scott adams that name's for it sounds familiar who's that all right well

00:33:26.720 i checked it out and he was on periscope and i think he was he was doing his rss feed like the

00:33:34.000 podcast feed i think it was just transitioning to youtube if i'm remembering correctly it was around

00:33:39.840 that time the periscope was ending and um i started listening to him like oh yeah this okay i get it and

00:33:46.960 then after several weeks i'm like oh hey that's the dilbert guy perfect and then since then i tried to listen

00:33:54.400 listen as uh much as possible and i gotta tell you it's so you know when my business was on the

00:34:02.160 university campus i saw in my opinion what the faculty was doing to students because we would

00:34:09.280 establish relationships with students over four years we get to know them kids would come in good

00:34:13.840 kids get education they would go to university sometimes they go to firms and send us business

00:34:18.400 it was great but all of a sudden it was almost like there was this form of mental uh abuse against

00:34:26.160 the children right it was extreme post-modernism which by the way is one of the podcasts i produce

00:34:31.760 for steven hicks if those of you who listen to jordan peterson talk about uh post-modernism that's

00:34:37.360 steven hicks's work his book explaining post-modernism and so i saw that happening on campus and that's when i

00:34:44.240 think the extreme bifurcation started to happen and it was so refreshing for me in that time

00:34:50.960 to come across hey it's the dilbert guy and he's arguing all positions from all sides in the best

00:34:59.280 means pop possible i'm like it was just refreshing to me if you understand it just became and i think for

00:35:06.160 all of us it just became a time for us to just you know this is a good time i can detox the negative

00:35:12.240 emotions i'm being subjected to on campus all the time and uh that the the amount of

00:35:19.440 influence over time like you get to know people over time they start to influence you more and more

00:35:25.760 and in me the the i mean the greatest indicator is i now um uh i'm now a a a i don't know how

00:35:34.800 you accredited hypnotist because i actually went through the process went to a school i guess got

00:35:41.120 interested in it over a couple of years because so much of what he he was saying is are things that

00:35:46.560 i was already trying to do i got through the sales the world of sales and marketing and i remember when

00:35:52.400 i did my course with uh with mike vendell and chris so many of the concepts that scott talks about

00:36:01.200 come from hypnosis but there's one difference that makes scott so special

00:36:05.600 he's the guy who tell who can take here are the concepts that you've learned in hypnosis and this

00:36:13.280 form of communication and now i'm going to give you all the practical examples in the world and i'm

00:36:20.640 going to overlay it together once you study hypnosis and become pretty proficient in it oh my god it opens

00:36:28.000 up what scott was trying to communicate in an entirely different light that i never even imagined so yeah that's

00:36:35.200 he's had significant uh influence on my life for sure and it's mostly mostly around hypnosis what's

00:36:42.320 that it's mostly around hypnosis you think yes yes i think when he was i said this on one of my

00:36:49.280 i'm starting to stream more regularly again i said this on one of my streams the other day

00:36:54.320 um he was hypnotizing us all like whether we understand it or not he was trying and i think he was

00:37:00.400 doing it um with good intention of trying to de-radicalize us and i explained i said this to

00:37:06.720 him a long a long time ago we first started talking he kind of he kind of sent a smile emoji back or

00:37:11.680 whatever it was um and you can see all the technique that he uses every it's repetition to pull you into

00:37:20.560 his frame if you notice every episode good morning everybody that is the hypnotic script that he starts

00:37:30.160 with now he built it over time because it's really difficult to build a hypnotic script for a large

00:37:36.160 audience like that is this is something revolutionary in the world of hypnosis i think people don't realize

00:37:43.280 how significantly he has added to that world but yeah that's what he's done then once you go through

00:37:48.800 and you learn how to do inductions with people whether they're passive or direct and then you

00:37:54.000 go back to scott adams like oh my god you sneaky bugger and now and i think that's why we're so

00:38:00.560 emotionally tied to him because we share the same framing of the world as he did because he helped

00:38:07.280 construct it for us in a way that we're not going to be so subjected to the radicalization we're all

00:38:12.800 being subjected to in the world right now yeah and i definitely recognize that and i think scott was

00:38:17.440 pretty transparent about it it was kind of the amazing part to me was that he would say i'm

00:38:21.120 hypnotizing you or he'd say you know i'm i'm always using these techniques because it's just built into

00:38:27.280 my personality at this point and but he would he would tell you i mean i don't know if you'd call it

00:38:31.920 a warning but he would be very transparent about it and then he would also say it's going to work anyway

00:38:38.880 yeah it's because there's a thing they they say in hypnosis i i encourage you all to go check out

00:38:44.400 mike uh mike mendel's hypnosis academy i know mike i did the self-hypnosis part of that so i i have

00:38:51.840 okay perfect yeah anything that infers hypnosis causes hypnosis that's why you can say i'm going

00:38:59.280 to persuade you right now this is the technique i'm going to use and then do it and it still works

00:39:05.680 because your subconscious mind just can't shake it because it just seems so practical

00:39:09.360 wow that's so amazing um so i have a couple of questions um first of all everyone youtube

00:39:17.840 locals rumble are you ex are you loving having bj on isn't he so interesting and amazing and

00:39:26.000 i already know we want to have you on another million times um they are asking

00:39:31.920 where you stream so where they can see your live streaming oh um so i'm using i'm on uh

00:39:39.200 rumble locals youtube and substack substack's actually my biggest audience and go to any of

00:39:47.280 those just type in bj dichter and you'll find me all over the place and um yeah that's it and i'm

00:39:53.040 trying actually not to cross over with you guys too much i'm starting at 10 30 on friday saturdays and

00:39:59.600 sundays so you guys are winding down i'm just slowly starting up ah we're not winding down

00:40:06.160 i have a question for um yeah thank you gracias en español o en inglés no en inglés

00:40:15.920 miss me no matter just mira escucho mi acento mi acento es como los gringos no perfecto oh no i

00:40:22.080 wanted to ask you uh you've been to el salvador so you have met uh well you know of a bukele right

00:40:29.360 and you know about bukele is um a reframe of liberation instead of uh incarceration you know

00:40:38.560 he's liberating the people just like you do like you're talking about freedom uh that reframe those

00:40:44.560 two things so i see you as the bukele of canada can you be the bukele of canada and liberate canada

00:40:52.800 because we need we need somebody that has that uh i think bukele is a hypnotist too maybe i don't know

00:40:59.600 what you think um no so bukele is a blind spot for conservatives and uh if you d if you dig deep

00:41:11.840 into bukele there's some very concerning things in his background so uh i understand you know for me

00:41:20.880 implementing bitcoin was great implementing uh you know jailing the narco gangs was necessary so

00:41:29.120 i'm on board with that those were not his ideas those ideas belong to alejandro moichon who was

00:41:36.720 the national security advisor to bukele and who i had communicated with on a number of uh issues and

00:41:44.960 sent him some information i said listen you know he knew i spent a lot of time in latin america

00:41:50.880 and i said this is what i'm seeing in these different countries this is what i know what

00:41:54.320 happens in canada in the u.s you should take a look at these things because i'm very concerned

00:41:59.360 about what i'm seeing in el salvador and um he said okay i guess and he started to you know do some

00:42:06.800 digging i guess i don't really know and uh then he was just arrested on complete bs charges treason

00:42:15.120 he was just always committed treason uh he disappeared for six months and then in february

00:42:22.080 of 2023 uh that's when we saw pictures online of his body that was chopped up into little pieces

00:42:30.160 because he was tortured while he was in custody i did an article on this a number of years ago a

00:42:36.400 couple years ago that bukele for 10 years was part of fmln the communist party yes and used to say

00:42:46.240 i just want to say i agree 100 being from el salvador and knowing the things in the ground

00:42:54.400 is very different than what the conservatives are trying to sell up bukele so i and this is so much

00:43:00.480 and this is what i love about scott is he would acknowledge the blind spots so i actually went

00:43:05.920 down with a friend of mine you can check out his youtube channel called britannica and he does his

00:43:11.520 name is callum he does like um you know what vice news used to do when it was credible he just came

00:43:17.600 back from syria he went to afghanistan he goes to wherever you can get killed he goes but he went to

00:43:23.680 he wanted to go to el salvador and he asked me because i don't speak spanish he's never into the tropics so we

00:43:29.280 went together and we he did a video called um uh the bitcoin dictatorship el salvador it's online

00:43:37.600 it's got a few hundred thousand views and what he explains is there's the story in english and then

00:43:43.600 there's the story in spanish and marcella as you know the story in spanish is very very different

00:43:50.720 now not to take away from yes el salvador is it reminds me of colombia when i first moved to colombia

00:43:57.680 was 2003 there's like 16 of us gringos in the country everybody thought we were insane but it

00:44:03.840 was amazing i saw that country transition over 20 years um it's the same sort of feel in el salvador

00:44:11.440 but the background ties particularly of bukele's father uh armando are very very concerning and i wish

00:44:21.360 conservatives would stop ignoring it and my speech on national security threats to the united states

00:44:27.520 that the big one i gave in in florida was on national security threats from canada and el salvador

00:44:36.400 yeah okay you nailed it right there i've never heard somebody as intelligent as

00:44:43.360 you're just i'm i'm speechless that you know this my father uh was in politics and he he was against

00:44:53.840 bukele's father for so many years ah yeah so you would know so i i mean i just i i wish uh more people

00:45:02.960 would ask questions my my biggest deal with those other and everybody's like why are we talking about

00:45:08.160 this country but um is when bukele and the and and the party that he's part of changed the law so that

00:45:16.320 he could become president again uh yeah and and forever you know who needs a constitution yeah what

00:45:24.560 he changed the constitution to be president to be able to be elected again and again and again and again

00:45:32.560 and if you have like a video of bukele like years ago saying i will never do this i'll be the george

00:45:40.640 washington of this country i will never run again i'll just i'm just trying to make this country better

00:45:47.680 and then i believe last year was when they changed the constitution so that he could get elected again

00:45:55.360 and again and again and again and again and that was like the tell for me that yeah definitely not

00:46:02.000 not the right move yeah the last thing on on el salvador and then i think we can move on is

00:46:07.280 i think the tell will be marcel and you can i'm sure you'll agree with me is he going to run again

00:46:12.800 if he's going to try to run again okay now we have a dictator now we have a problem right so let's see

00:46:18.400 what happens maybe i mean i do know he's uh he's he announced this uh internationally and publicly

00:46:25.680 that he has a plan to merge over time um guatemala el salvador honduras and nicaragua

00:46:38.160 and under one you know economic zone and for some reason 2024 i don't know the 25 numbers yet

00:46:46.480 uh the emir of qatar was there eight times why is the emir of qatar you know moonlighting

00:46:53.440 in el salvador numerous times and there's there's some things going on with the qatari regime behind

00:46:59.040 the scenes that will lend itself to it but i don't think your audience wants to hear this right now

00:47:04.000 but that's that's we'll talk about that more marcel how about that we can we can we can bring it back

00:47:09.200 on to talk about that so sorry i have one last thought sorry scott actually asked me a lot about

00:47:16.320 this and he was of the same mind as as you are that he you know he he kept uh you know he was skeptic

00:47:25.120 about someone being this this uh hero um so he's like i'm gonna keep myself uh from you know cheering

00:47:35.680 him on and see what happens like you said if he gets i think because you i and other people were

00:47:42.160 sending him information that would have caused some concern and you know he was again back to scott

00:47:47.680 he was a pragmatic thinker which is what we all have to be and question ourselves like i love

00:47:54.560 when i find out i'm wrong you know there's on this and maybe scott inspired this i do this um

00:48:01.040 this reframe technique in the five minute journal every day you know most days not every day which

00:48:06.240 is you wake up what are three things you're grateful for what are three things you're going

00:48:09.920 to do to make today amazing and at the end of the day there's basically the inverse of that okay what

00:48:14.640 what are the three best things that happened today what could you have done to make it better

00:48:18.320 but i add something else in what did i get wrong and i think that's what we need to do more

00:48:24.000 it's really difficult for our ego to allow us to admit this is what i was wrong about today scott

00:48:32.000 was really good at this so he really had himself dialed in and understood himself uh i think better

00:48:38.080 than most people did at least that's my read of it and uh that's something i suggest for everybody if

00:48:43.920 we get everybody to start doing that that also might start lowering the temperature who are

00:48:49.040 you know some i think it was scott who said it's not your opinion that's the problem it's your

00:48:55.600 certainty that your opinion is correct that's the problem yeah okay so i i we have a few minutes left

00:49:03.600 and i think you were going to talk about trump versus carney and how scott would frame the whole

00:49:08.080 situation in canada and maybe that's a little bit of a transition into talking about the news um there is

00:49:13.360 the story i posted today about that situation just you know i know there's this thing about the trade

00:49:17.600 deal where um carney was apparently moving in a direction of making some kind of deal with china

00:49:24.000 on on trade and trump threatened 100 tariffs if he did that um carney seemed to back off at least

00:49:32.720 somewhat on that but i think it's somewhat questionable how much he backed off because i think he still

00:49:37.120 signed some kind of agreement so it's a little bit you know ambiguous in my mind exactly where this is

00:49:42.880 headed and then the other story i posted was just the y combinator announced that they're no longer

00:49:48.000 going to invest in canada so maybe you could comment on those two things yeah you know i'm still in the

00:49:55.200 truck a few times a week when i can get in there as i'm winding down trucking over the next couple of

00:49:59.760 months um personally i just love to get on the road and see the world and um i can tell you canada is

00:50:07.920 going to have massive economic collapse in 60 six to nine months because transport of commodities into

00:50:14.320 the united states is a leading indicator of our economic health and we've all but collapsed that's

00:50:19.840 why i can take time off today and nobody bothers me and i can take an entire week off they're like

00:50:24.560 yeah take as much time as you want um i think the way scott would frame it is something i've talked

00:50:30.560 about on the radio actually i've mentioned scott a number of times because i do legacy radio i'm actually

00:50:36.400 doing an interview later on today i might even talk about this interview and i i take scott's

00:50:42.240 framing of who taught canada how to fight right and i tell them the story of when uh doug ford who

00:50:50.720 was the conservative side that sabotaged the trucker convoy um he was going to fight back against true

00:50:57.040 against trump by banning by canceling the contract and banning starlink from canada as scott

00:51:06.160 said let me get this straight the way they're going to fight back is turn off their own internet

00:51:12.240 okay and what i'm arguing on the radio and it the people of canada are really they're like us most

00:51:19.440 people are pragmatic it's the politicians who live off the structure they're the ones who get outraged

00:51:25.760 which is which is why i i do this but i try to explain to them that at the end of the day most of us

00:51:34.240 uh in canada this is at least what i see there is such appetite for and support for the united states

00:51:40.800 we know our politicians are losers because they don't understand we have no leverage donald trump

00:51:48.000 is the master of putting himself in a position where he has two ways to win no way to lose sound

00:51:53.920 but it's totally accurate and our fools in politics and the unit party don't understand we don't have

00:52:02.800 leverage and he just took you know by by doing what by getting involved in venezuela completely

00:52:10.800 removed any leverage that canada has i've been advocating on the radio because i know so many

00:52:16.240 and there are good people in politics too who are as frustrated as you and i uh they're a little bit lower

00:52:20.720 level they're you know behind the scenes they're working as staffers and stuff and i keep trying

00:52:25.440 to tell them trump read art of the deal just read it none of them have read it just read it he wants

00:52:31.280 you to make a deal and he wants you to come to him because he's going to put himself in the dominant

00:52:37.680 position and i say you know why he is because the america is the greatest economy and military force

00:52:43.840 force throughout human civilization you're not gonna have leverage over that so just make him happy

00:52:50.800 you know there there are many many ways you can offer him different overtures and we can all come

00:52:55.440 together that's what they want and i do know from people inside the administration big donors what they

00:53:01.520 want from canada you know what i want it's pretty pragmatic they want they don't want to take over canada

00:53:07.680 as the 51st state who wants to deal with our you know 25 that will vote communist no matter what they

00:53:14.320 don't want to deal with that but what they do want to have is something similar to what europe was

00:53:19.840 supposed to be with the eu which is one economic zone get rid of the border have free and open trade

00:53:27.760 between canada and the us americans can work in canada canadians can work in america and that will

00:53:34.400 allow american industry to move in to the largest plot of natural resources on the planet that have

00:53:42.080 not been expropriated and it would make america or this you know pan or unified american economy

00:53:50.400 such a threat to china that china becomes a bar fly which cat is that is that gary yeah

00:53:58.000 gary's awesome um so that's what they want and i think ultimately if we played our cars right in

00:54:03.840 canada that's what we'll get but it's just frustrating to watch this unnecessary theater

00:54:10.640 go on the pushback against what are you pushing back they're 80 of our economy or sorry 76 of our

00:54:16.240 economy well we're not pushing back just work with them and the other thing is the last point on this

00:54:21.680 it's americans and my american friends often struggle to understand especially the the farther south you go

00:54:28.000 90 of canadians live within an hour drive of the border i'm an hour from niagara falls in toronto which

00:54:35.040 is the biggest city we're the same culture if you go to alberta and north dakota it's the same culture

00:54:42.560 same thing where i live if you're in upstate new york and toronto we have all the same cultural

00:54:48.480 references the same media the same influences so we really are the same a very i think we are the

00:54:56.400 same culture the difference is canadians are more passive whereas americans are more aggressive which

00:55:02.560 is all i always get criticized say you behave more like an american and i say well thank you yeah i disagree

00:55:08.560 you do sergio yes i do uh but i don't think we have time to to tell you everything i disagree with

00:55:17.360 you bj next next time sergio maybe yeah if i can on saturday i'll try to join it the saturday ones are

00:55:28.160 difficult but i'll see if i can uh well all right with all that being said okay so you have a whole new

00:55:35.920 fan base going on right now which i'm so thrilled about and the chat loves you i love you like you've

00:55:43.280 just been always an amazing interesting person and i'm glad to know you and i'm glad that you accepted

00:55:49.680 the invitation um and i hope when i ask you a million more times that you'll come back because

00:55:57.280 you have so many interesting viewpoints you you get it and everybody's like wow everyone's saying

00:56:03.120 please come back we love you way to go you know i'm following him i'm going to subscribe to him so

00:56:08.400 you were um very illuminating for a lot of us and we really appreciate you being here um and we can't

00:56:16.320 wait to see you again so we'll make sure that we drop all your info um after the show so everybody can

00:56:22.720 follow you and if you you know what bj i'll tag you and if you can like put like where you i'll make a

00:56:28.640 post right after this and you just put all the places that you stream and everything and everyone

00:56:32.240 will follow okay and um shelley was having technical difficulties today oh it's a we can

00:56:39.840 hear you all right shelley want to say anything yes thank you for coming on that was wonderful and

00:56:48.400 fortunately i missed the first part trying to figure out how i was going to hook up to these earphones

00:56:53.200 with scott's information so i finally did so i can hear at least the last part of it but yes thank

00:57:00.480 you i will re-listen to to it um again afterwards but well shelley just since it's our first time

00:57:07.200 talking the first thing is uh my my thoughts are with you and uh we all i don't break down in tears a lot

00:57:17.920 but when when i saw you come on that stream that was a difficult moment for a lot of us and i think um you

00:57:26.480 are all so honorable trying to build out the scott adam school if i can ever help with suggestions or

00:57:33.920 ideas i'm i'm here from you uh i love all you guys i think you're doing god's work in trying to make

00:57:40.000 this happen and i think it's important to have and i think you all understand this i'm sure your

00:57:44.720 listeners would agree it's important to maintain the frame of like what i admired about scott so much

00:57:51.520 is he wouldn't live in the past and we have such an opportunity of this massive archive

00:58:00.480 of lessons and framing the world that he's left behind to use those to springboard for a brighter

00:58:07.200 future and to help new people understand how those lessons of the past will apply to them in their future

00:58:14.960 life and i think if that becomes part of the the goal of what the i'm sorry the system of the scott

00:58:23.520 scott adam school i think you're going to be hugely successful and i wish you all the best of luck

00:58:29.840 thanks so much yes i definitely that's definitely wanted and you know it was a short time for me to

00:58:37.600 break into this world but uh he said i could do it so here i am doing my best so definitely i will

00:58:44.480 reach out to you yes i definitely need some guidance on this so appreciate it and yes i

00:58:53.760 i watched for the first time i watched back the celebration of life sorry my voice is going for some

00:58:59.920 reason um and and you know i had to laugh because i wrote down you know i knew i was going to be

00:59:08.080 nervous so i wrote it down and i told myself i i like i couldn't get past it so i told myself i'm

00:59:15.120 gonna read it so i got my hair done thank you to my hair stylist uh kristin and felicia um i had good hair

00:59:22.560 i went to go i went to read you know i was reading it because i was so nervous to her for the first

00:59:30.000 time because i thought okay this would be like if i was reading it you know to everybody and i could

00:59:37.600 not get i couldn't do it i was bawling i i just couldn't get through it i was so grateful that i did

00:59:44.880 that because i don't think i would have been able to get there to to say it i couldn't get past the first

00:59:50.800 few words um so anyways i was very grateful for that but in that i got all the years wrong you know

00:59:58.960 how scott is with dates he he you know he names names he tells you know every time he would tell me

01:00:08.560 to put it in my calendar because he's like okay this is the date you need to put it in your calendar

01:00:14.320 and you need to remind me and you do all the stuff and here i go i have it on the paper 2003 2004

01:00:20.800 2005 i'm like 2024 2026 i'm like really are you really kind of channeling through me right now

01:00:28.480 anyways it was very weird but i know i figured you guys knew i started i think i started off

01:00:34.080 wrong but i corrected myself and then i just kept going wrong you did the weave

01:00:38.880 yeah i think they got it we understood we understood chelly we understood when you said 2022 we knew

01:00:44.720 we did a translation deal with filter thank you yeah it was it was tough but i'm so grateful that i was

01:00:53.440 able to do it off camera you did an amazing job you did right by scott listen you're there and you know

01:01:02.640 you know you're live streaming you have all these professional people who are speakers and authors

01:01:08.400 right and you're like okay no pressure right yeah how do i follow that like

01:01:16.480 i was great i honestly i was really grateful that i was able to do it because i did have this

01:01:22.240 i had it i gave it to someone just in case i couldn't get through it um so i was really grateful

01:01:28.640 that i got so well you were amazing and also owen thank you for always doing those spaces like clockwork

01:01:35.280 i try to join when i can and uh they're great they're very helpful and uh that's off to you

01:01:41.600 brother all right guys so listen let's have a closing sip scott like to keep on time and um

01:01:50.320 we will see you back here tomorrow we have another amazing guest tomorrow different topic

01:01:55.840 different subject but very scott approved okay so we'll look forward to seeing you guys later i'll

01:02:02.000 post a message with bj's info and he will follow up make sure to like follow subscribe and same

01:02:09.200 with these channels too you guys okay so we'll see you tomorrow to scott to scott scott

01:02:15.280 bye bye bye

01:02:19.520 bye bye

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - January 28, 2026

Episode 3081 - The Scott Adams School 01⧸27⧸26

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