Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 3102 - The Scott Adams School 02⧸25⧸26

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00:00:45.380 Good morning, everyone.

00:00:47.300 Good morning.

00:00:50.460 Good morning.

00:00:51.800 Me and Barry and Rick.

00:00:54.120 Lang is their first one.

00:00:56.340 Lang is ready, man.

00:00:58.500 Patty and Steven.

00:01:00.000 Hopefully, Mike Burt has gotten his ex-account back.

00:01:05.660 Oh, yeah.

00:01:06.760 He might be in a mine today.

00:01:08.460 He was going back into the mine.

00:01:11.180 Good morning.

00:01:12.500 Look how cute everyone is.

00:01:14.880 Is everyone nice and refreshed?

00:01:17.380 Look who's joining us in the house today.

00:01:19.700 Joe.

00:01:20.740 Joe Pollack.

00:01:21.940 We're so excited.

00:01:23.500 But you guys, you know, once we all file in, I see people coming in through the door.

00:01:28.880 Come on in.

00:01:29.920 And then we're going to have a little simultaneity with Scott, which is the best part of the day.

00:01:37.760 Always.

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00:01:41.840 What's going on?

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00:02:00.440 Okay, Rumble.

00:02:01.160 All right.

00:02:01.860 You guys, grab a vessel of any kind.

00:02:05.140 It's time, Brie.

00:02:05.940 Let's take it away.

00:02:08.380 Special surprise.

00:02:10.240 Special surprise.

00:02:12.500 I've updated the introduction to the simultaneous sip to make it easier for you to sing along.

00:02:18.740 In fact, turn it into a generic drinking toast.

00:02:23.820 Are you ready?

00:02:24.280 Okay, so here's the reworked introduction to the simultaneous sip.

00:02:30.460 It goes like this.

00:02:32.600 Watch the rhyming pattern.

00:02:34.120 You'll be impressed.

00:02:38.540 I'd like to perform this correctly.

00:02:41.460 For the simultaneous sip, all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass, a tankard chalice or stein,

00:02:49.440 canteen jug or flask, a vessel of any kind.

00:02:52.460 Fill it with your favorite liquid.

00:02:54.660 I like coffee.

00:02:55.840 But if this were a drinking game or you were doing it for a toast,

00:02:59.440 everybody would get to say their own favorite liquid at the same time.

00:03:02.540 So I'd be yelling coffee.

00:03:03.680 You'd be yelling vodka, perhaps.

00:03:06.220 It all works.

00:03:07.900 Now, join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the dopamine to the day,

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00:03:24.280 That was delicious, Santa.

00:03:32.100 Santa Scott.

00:03:33.820 Good morning.

00:03:35.260 Here we are.

00:03:36.440 Day after the State of the Union.

00:03:39.340 The one, the one, the only coffee with Scott Adams, Scott Adams School.

00:03:47.060 So my name is Erica.

00:03:48.120 I am your lovely host.

00:03:51.200 That was hysterical.

00:03:52.460 We have Sergio joining us.

00:03:55.500 Good morning.

00:03:55.920 We have Owen Gregorian, still not perfectly feeling better.

00:04:00.240 So we have his voice again for today.

00:04:02.300 Hello, everyone.

00:04:03.640 We have beautiful Marcella in blue today.

00:04:06.960 And one of our favorite guest co-hosts, Joel Pollack, is in the house.

00:04:14.680 Joel, first things first.

00:04:17.180 We have a lot of people who are wondering how the book is coming along.

00:04:22.140 And we have had questions.

00:04:23.860 Do you have like a time frame of how long it'll take before we can read it?

00:04:28.080 It's going very well.

00:04:31.600 I'm more than halfway through the first draft.

00:04:35.080 I am going to write several drafts.

00:04:37.640 So it's not going to come out next week.

00:04:40.820 But it will hopefully come out before the end of the year.

00:04:44.800 The goal is that it would be on sale in time for the holiday shopping season.

00:04:50.560 So I'm guessing maybe a target date for release of something like October.

00:04:56.960 Wow.

00:04:57.660 We will have to go through another draft that'll take a little bit longer to finish,

00:05:03.260 probably by June or July.

00:05:05.420 And then revisions and editing over the summer.

00:05:09.060 And then hopefully publication by the fall.

00:05:12.020 So I know that's going to be frustrating to people who want something right away.

00:05:15.900 But you'll just have to wait.

00:05:17.680 It's going to wait.

00:05:18.880 Yeah.

00:05:19.360 But it just it takes a long time to do this right.

00:05:23.100 And it's the second biography I've worked on.

00:05:26.580 The first one I worked on took about a year and a half to do.

00:05:32.380 And that also went through several drafts.

00:05:34.080 This won't be quite as long.

00:05:36.220 In terms of the process or in terms of the book length.

00:05:39.380 Because it's got to be readable above all.

00:05:41.560 And also because in the earlier biography that I wrote, I wrote about my mother-in-law,

00:05:46.260 actually, who was a very prominent civil rights activist in South Africa.

00:05:51.480 I wrote a long book because a lot of her writing, even though she was also famous as a writer, a lot of it hadn't been published.

00:05:59.420 So I wanted to include excerpts of some of her writing.

00:06:01.960 Whereas with Scott, he's written so much and he's actually told his own story so many times that we have the luxury, in a sense, or maybe the additional burden, if you want to look at it that way, of writing a shorter and more concise and direct biography.

00:06:18.760 So that's what I'm working on right now.

00:06:22.520 And it's going very well.

00:06:23.580 As with exercise, as with just about anything you want to do, Scott's advice was you do a little bit every day.

00:06:32.020 And that's how this is going as well.

00:06:34.640 It's a little every day.

00:06:36.060 Alongside all the other things I'm doing, California Post and raising my family or trying to be there for the family as I divide my time between two coasts, really.

00:06:44.640 So hopefully I'm barely hanging on to all that and making sure that the work gets done everywhere it needs to be done.

00:06:52.540 We've got Little League season coming up.

00:06:54.280 You know, we're all extremely busy and you have to basically schedule time for the things that really are most important.

00:06:59.040 So I usually write the biography first thing in the morning.

00:07:02.960 If you have something you really want to do and you don't want it to hang over you the whole day, just get it done as soon as you possibly can.

00:07:09.560 So I'm usually up really early and I'm working on Scott's biography.

00:07:13.460 That's great advice.

00:07:14.560 The other thing we definitely want to know about is how is the California Post going?

00:07:19.680 It's newly launched.

00:07:21.080 And what do you think?

00:07:23.160 It's going very well.

00:07:24.300 I mean, the reception has been incredible.

00:07:25.920 Everywhere I go, people who are familiar with it tell me that it's really changing their media diet and also changing the political landscape.

00:07:35.980 Because people feel that there's finally an alternative voice within California that can reflect a variety of perspectives that isn't the usual liberal left perspective.

00:07:47.540 That doesn't mean that everybody who reads or writes for the California Post is conservative or Republican.

00:07:52.700 We had an opinion article a few days ago by the lead plaintiff in the case against Trump's tariffs explaining why he had sued Trump and why he had won.

00:08:02.840 And that's what we want to be.

00:08:05.160 We're not trying to be straight down the middle.

00:08:06.880 Nobody really can be.

00:08:08.480 But the motto of the editorial page is we deserve better.

00:08:11.820 We deserve better than the quality of the government services we're getting.

00:08:14.760 We deserve better than the cultural snobbery of Hollywood, which persists even as the movie industry is in real trouble.

00:08:23.320 And we want to work together and bring voices out of the shadows to make this a better place to live.

00:08:31.000 And that's what I want for my family.

00:08:32.800 And I know that that's what millions of Californians want.

00:08:35.220 And that's why the California Post is doing so well.

00:08:37.480 Yes, that's incredible.

00:08:39.100 And very much needed in California.

00:08:42.600 California, so I'm working, by the way, on my Gavin Newsom impersonation.

00:08:48.280 I launched it yesterday.

00:08:50.300 And I'm like, you know, and then I realized it's sort of like driving the car dance.

00:08:55.800 I'm like, I don't really know what you're doing, but I'm going to perfect it.

00:08:59.540 So last night, President Trump said the state of the union is strong.

00:09:05.560 So I am going to start with you, Joel, about this speech.

00:09:10.680 So what do you feel this the state of the union speech is?

00:09:16.540 Right.

00:09:17.120 Well, I tried to look at it in a number of different ways, and I wrote about it at the California Post.

00:09:23.640 From my perspective, using my tools, the way that I would write it as a political observer.

00:09:32.000 And next, I'll get to how Scott would have seen it.

00:09:35.100 But I thought it was one of his best speeches ever.

00:09:40.000 Yet it was also a very partisan speech.

00:09:42.380 And so I wrestled for some time with the question of whether a partisan speech in the state of the union could also be a great speech.

00:09:52.820 And I think he pulled it off.

00:09:55.520 And the way he pulled it off was.

00:09:58.020 He did not try to establish national unity by talking about the Republicans and the Democrats coming together.

00:10:07.300 That's the old model.

00:10:08.520 And I think he actually tried that a couple of times in his early State of the Union addresses.

00:10:14.880 But what he did instead was he went outside of politics and he brought heroes into the room that everybody could identify with.

00:10:24.920 The hockey team, the soldiers, the National Guardsman who was wounded, the mother of the refugee who was murdered.

00:10:35.140 He brought people in who could transcend the parties.

00:10:39.500 So he beat up on the Democrats quite a bit, but also said our national unity is really outside of this chamber.

00:10:49.600 And he almost emphasized the point physically by bringing people into the room from outside.

00:10:56.240 They weren't seated in the gallery.

00:10:57.580 Almost all of his guests were people who were waiting outside in the hallway and he would bring them in.

00:11:03.280 The Olympic team, the Medal of Honor winner.

00:11:07.200 There were people coming in all the time.

00:11:10.060 He brought the nation into the room.

00:11:11.800 And I think that was a deliberate physical gesture.

00:11:15.760 And I've written about that before, how there's never been a president who has used the room itself almost as a musical instrument.

00:11:24.820 You know, if you go into a church with a pipe organ, the building is the instrument because you can actually see the pipes usually on the exterior of the building, sometimes inside as well.

00:11:35.740 But the resonance that gives the organist sound is the building.

00:11:40.980 And Trump is the organist in the chamber.

00:11:44.480 He really uses the physical space, not just by projecting his voice, but by bringing people in and out.

00:11:50.660 And then last night, a new technique he really drew attention to, which was standing versus sitting.

00:11:57.000 We're used to that, right?

00:11:57.960 We're used to the party in power standing and applauding the party that's in the opposition sitting and crowning.

00:12:02.920 But Democrats came in and said, we're going to be silent.

00:12:06.560 We're just not going to say anything or do anything.

00:12:08.680 And they've done that in a few years past.

00:12:10.600 But I think Trump took that as an opportunity this time and said, OK, you're going to sit there.

00:12:16.120 Whatever you agree with, stand.

00:12:17.720 If you disagree, sit.

00:12:19.100 And so then he set up this series of questions that they had to sit for.

00:12:23.480 So visually and physically, that created something that was very useful.

00:12:30.580 And I'm kind of already getting into my Scott analysis.

00:12:34.040 But that's as far as mine went.

00:12:35.840 I mean, that was basically what I said.

00:12:38.340 So now, how would Scott have looked at this?

00:12:41.520 Well, I gave you a little hint just now.

00:12:43.560 Scott always said that visual persuasion is always better.

00:12:46.040 And what Trump did was he basically showed the nation visually, even gestured, you know, look, look, look, you know, look at these people.

00:12:53.920 They're sitting down.

00:12:54.600 They're sitting down for American citizens come first. 1.00

00:12:57.320 They're sitting down for this poor woman who was murdered.

00:13:01.500 Why don't you stand up for that?

00:13:02.840 You know, he made this visual case of the difference between the two parties.

00:13:08.840 Now, that's very powerful in a midterm election year.

00:13:13.680 And I think that is what many Republicans took from the speech.

00:13:20.580 They took a sense of confidence, not necessarily because he talked about how successful his policies had been or the good economic news.

00:13:28.840 Democrats can talk about some of the bad economic news because the economic economic news is never all good or all bad.

00:13:34.960 But what he really did was draw a clear distinction between the two parties.

00:13:41.700 And that gives the Republicans something to run on.

00:13:45.180 And what the parties need on both sides is they need something to believe in, something to run on.

00:13:52.000 Abigail Spanberger, who gave the response, I thought she was a terrible choice for the response. 0.95

00:13:57.760 If you're trying to reach the nation, on the other hand, probably a pretty good choice if you're a Democrat.

00:14:04.480 Let me explain that.

00:14:06.280 Abigail Spanberger ran as a moderate.

00:14:08.780 She even said she would not redraw the congressional districts in Virginia.

00:14:12.800 She has governed as a radical and she's redistricting Virginia from a six Democrat, five Republican state to a 10 Democrat, one Republican state. 1.00

00:14:21.540 It's the most egregious partisan gerrymander in the whole country.

00:14:24.640 So you wouldn't have her after the president because in a way she makes his case for him, at least to independent voters.

00:14:32.680 Trump can point to her and say, listen, the Democrats are selling you some moderate candidates this year, but you're going to get radical.

00:14:38.880 Look what she's doing in Virginia, raising all these taxes, taxes on dog walking. 1.00

00:14:42.900 I mean, it's nuts. 0.99

00:14:45.040 As he said last night, these people are crazy.

00:14:46.700 But what a Democratic leader wants to tell the Democratic Party is, quietly, quietly, we're going to do all this radical stuff you really want. 0.65

00:14:57.940 Just let us run the moderate candidates.

00:15:00.440 Let us do this.

00:15:01.660 And this is, in fact, happening in California.

00:15:03.440 The California Democratic Convention just met and they nominated some candidates for Congress.

00:15:07.060 And they nominated the more moderate ones, not the far left ones, because Nancy Pelosi knows that's how you win.

00:15:13.200 So the message to Democrats is, you know, don't worry, don't worry, don't make a lot of noise about it.

00:15:18.760 Don't don't get upset about it.

00:15:19.880 But we're going to run some moderate candidates.

00:15:21.920 Once they're in, they can do whatever you want.

00:15:23.820 And the other thing that she did was she reinforced this idea that ICE is basically the Gestapo, that they're arresting citizens, that they're poorly trained. 0.86

00:15:35.780 They're a bunch of thugs that come in.

00:15:37.600 I mean, it's a terrible way to talk about American law enforcement. 0.94

00:15:40.460 And just I don't know.

00:15:43.000 Some part of me is just repulsed by the whole thing.

00:15:46.080 But that is the Democratic Party narrative.

00:15:48.540 That's how they see their identity as opposed to the Republican Party.

00:15:52.580 And so it was a good speech for Democrats because she reinforced the feeling that they're standing up against tyranny in some way.

00:16:01.320 Now, Scott addresses this in his book, Win Bigly, where he talks about the absolute conviction of Trump's critics, that he was the new Hitler and that this horrible authoritarian regime was descending.

00:16:15.720 And he said none of that was true.

00:16:16.980 And when you show people evidence that it wasn't true, they didn't react.

00:16:21.140 They didn't change their minds.

00:16:22.580 They were at best placed into a kind of cognitive dissonance where they would try to justify the opposite of what they were feeling or experiencing.

00:16:31.300 But that's how we functioned.

00:16:34.780 Two movies and one screen.

00:16:37.180 And it's just interesting to see the reactions afterward.

00:16:41.320 There wasn't two movies, one screen effect in the sense that you had Democrats with their talking points coming on and saying this was a terrible speech.

00:16:49.300 It was awful.

00:16:50.620 He said. 0.98

00:16:51.160 Racist. 0.94

00:16:52.120 Gavin Newsom said it was boring. 0.99

00:16:53.900 Now, that was probably the dumbest comment because I think even Democrats understood it wasn't boring. 0.87

00:16:59.940 I mean, it was long. 0.99

00:17:00.840 He could have said that was long.

00:17:02.120 Right.

00:17:02.260 The joke there is it's long.

00:17:04.800 I felt I'll tell you what I think about the speech, but I fell asleep.

00:17:07.580 You know, whatever.

00:17:08.120 I mean, there are other you could have done something funny with that.

00:17:12.480 The longest state of the union ever.

00:17:14.960 But.

00:17:15.040 That's not where he went.

00:17:17.560 He went to boring.

00:17:18.720 It definitely wasn't boring.

00:17:20.180 And that's that's bad persuasion.

00:17:21.780 It's not credible.

00:17:22.500 It's not funny.

00:17:24.060 I don't think any of their persuasion was funny or credible. 0.99

00:17:26.680 And this is the thing.

00:17:28.000 There's always this moment when Trump really does well, when the other side doesn't really know what to do.

00:17:32.180 And so they go with their talking points.

00:17:33.640 There is a kind of cognitive dissonance.

00:17:35.080 I mean, Pete Buttigieg on CNN was talking about how it was a terrible speech and the president lied, lied, lied, lied, lied, lied, lied, lied.

00:17:42.040 That's that's sort of the default.

00:17:43.240 Like, I didn't like to speak, so he must have lied.

00:17:45.520 Well, CBS News, which is normally pretty harsh to the president, maybe not since Barry Weiss took over.

00:17:50.280 I don't know.

00:17:50.560 But CBS News did a fact check.

00:17:52.040 I just saw this on X.

00:17:53.820 They fact checked his claim that murders were down to their lowest rate since 1900.

00:17:58.560 Sounds crazy, right?

00:17:59.580 I mean, that's like a long time ago.

00:18:01.460 Fact check.

00:18:02.120 True.

00:18:03.040 I mean, it's true.

00:18:04.440 It's extraordinary.

00:18:05.780 Now, where Democrats will disagree with Republicans is why.

00:18:09.540 And President Trump said why.

00:18:10.800 He said it's because we had ice on the street deporting criminal gangsters.

00:18:15.480 But Democrats won't admit that.

00:18:16.900 OK, fine.

00:18:18.080 But I think the two movies, one screen effect was there.

00:18:21.460 But it took a little bit of a shock, a little bit, a little bit of a beating last night.

00:18:26.600 For a moment, at least, the Democrats didn't really know what to say.

00:18:29.760 I watched Harold Ford.

00:18:31.680 He's probably the most fair minded Democrat.

00:18:33.180 He's on Fox.

00:18:34.480 And before the speech, he was saying, well, we have to remember a lot of Americans are still hurting economically.

00:18:39.020 And that's what the president needs to talk about.

00:18:41.260 All the people who are hurting sort of reemphasizing the idea of the economy is bad.

00:18:45.380 And when the speech was over, his reaction was Democrats need to talk about economic issues in response to this president,

00:18:51.900 which told me that Trump was successful because Harold Ford Jr. wasn't saying Trump failed to talk about the economy.

00:18:58.340 He failed to talk about people who are working for a living.

00:19:00.560 It told me that he knew Trump had really hit a home run and the Democrats were going to have to find a way to respond.

00:19:04.700 So I think that's where it was.

00:19:07.060 Again, visual persuasion, as Scott said.

00:19:09.860 Also, finally, about the persuasion element of it.

00:19:14.380 I said to my wife, you know, Trump has done this before.

00:19:19.300 I mean, how many speeches has he done where he's gone to the gallery?

00:19:22.240 There's been a Medal of Honor awarded or a Medal of Freedom.

00:19:26.040 And we've seen this before.

00:19:28.000 We have actually seen it before.

00:19:29.180 I thought Trump's speech in 2020, the one Nancy Pelosi tore up, was probably the best speech he'd ever given.

00:19:35.380 And nobody remembers it because she tore up the speech. 0.99

00:19:38.320 That's visual persuasion for you, right?

00:19:40.080 That's what we remember about the speech.

00:19:42.020 But what was different this time?

00:19:44.140 And I think it was the hockey team.

00:19:45.980 It was the hockey team because it allowed him to frame the entire speech as a victory speech.

00:19:52.140 It really was a victory speech.

00:19:53.900 And it associated him or he associated himself with the color gold or with the metallic gold of the medals.

00:20:02.900 They came in wearing medals.

00:20:04.700 Another form of visual persuasion.

00:20:06.980 And also, it resonates because everybody knows Trump likes gold, right?

00:20:10.220 There's gold in the Trump Tower.

00:20:11.660 There's gold in Mar-a-Lago.

00:20:12.960 There's gold in the Oval Office.

00:20:14.640 He's big on gold.

00:20:15.480 The Nobel Prize is gold behind his desk.

00:20:17.880 Everything's gold.

00:20:18.500 He likes gold.

00:20:20.000 It's almost a joke.

00:20:21.000 You know, like, what's he going to build in Greenland?

00:20:22.660 Like a giant gold tower, you know, on the ice floe or whatever.

00:20:25.700 But that was very powerful.

00:20:28.340 The gold medals, the hockey team coming in.

00:20:32.660 It also showed that he could break the opposition because half the Democrats stood up and he pointed that out.

00:20:38.860 He said, look, half of them are standing.

00:20:39.980 The other ones aren't.

00:20:40.620 But anyway, so I think that was a way of making this speech different and better and more effective than the other ones, was basically framing it as a victory speech.

00:20:50.460 I'm not trying to make the case for you that I'm better or that I'm succeeding and that you should vote for my party in November.

00:20:56.300 The case I'm making is we've all already won.

00:21:00.020 And that was, I think, what made it very effective.

00:21:03.200 And that's why people are upbeat about it today if they like the president and white Democrats are trying to find a better answer for it.

00:21:09.380 And they may just try to forget about it and move on because they think they have the upper hand as the opposition party in the midterm year.

00:21:14.420 But it was a very effective speech.

00:21:15.640 I felt like he painted it, if I just summarized it quickly, as American, anti-American.

00:21:22.480 And that's really how I saw the whole thing, you know, like not stand, like you can't stand when he says that your number one job is to protect Americans in the country.

00:21:31.820 And they were like, oh, no, we're going to sit for that.

00:21:34.200 So, oh, oh, OK.

00:21:36.300 You know, so I felt like, you know, even like some and some of the medals he gave out, like I was like, he's just given out medals and awards he's using.

00:21:45.600 And then he said he wanted the Presidential Medal of Honor.

00:21:48.280 And he's like, I can't give it to myself, but if they could change that law.

00:21:52.800 And I'm just like, oh, my God, he was so funny last night and animated.

00:21:56.640 And like you said, the room was part of his speech and he used the sitting and the silence as part of his speech.

00:22:04.140 And those non-words and those moments and just gesturing were huge.

00:22:10.540 And I'm glad that he also allowed so much space and time to happen for those moments.

00:22:16.160 Like he didn't just make a point and move on.

00:22:17.880 Like he let the Republican or the American side, I'm going to say, to applaud for I think it was like two minutes and 18 seconds when he said your first job is to protect Americans.

00:22:30.860 And he let that go for well over two minutes of them just sitting there.

00:22:35.020 And that was serious, in my opinion.

00:22:37.800 You know, the remark about changing the law to give himself the Medal of Honor.

00:22:44.440 It may have had to do with the fact that the gentleman who won the Medal of Honor right before he said that, whose name escapes me right now.

00:22:51.700 Like I can look it up quickly.

00:22:52.760 The centenarian who had flown in the Korean War, his name is I have it on the other computer.

00:23:02.220 Sorry.

00:23:04.980 He is from San Diego or the San Diego suburbs.

00:23:08.580 His name is Royce Williams.

00:23:11.660 And Royce Williams.

00:23:13.660 And it had flown that mission, but it was a secret mission.

00:23:16.880 And the reason that it was secret, Trump kind of alluded to the fact that it was secret, was that we did not want to acknowledge that the Soviet Union had actually been in combat with our troops.

00:23:28.800 Because it would have had massive implications for the Cold War when both countries at that point had nuclear weapons.

00:23:35.260 And so the rule for the Congressional Medal of Honor is you have to be nominated for it within three years of the event that causes you to win the medal.

00:23:44.940 And the only exceptions that are allowed is if there's an act of Congress that actually says, OK, this individual should get it.

00:23:51.260 That's why it's the Congressional Medal of Honor.

00:23:52.980 Congress actually has the final say.

00:23:54.760 And so they did actually pass an amendment in the National Defense Authorization Act that allowed Royce Williams to to receive a medal of honor.

00:24:03.980 So that might have been what Trump was doing.

00:24:05.540 But how did they even get to that point?

00:24:07.360 It was because a bunch of his neighbors in Encinitas in in San Diego decided, you know what?

00:24:13.640 This is our neighbor.

00:24:14.380 He's never talked about this, but he's kind of a legend.

00:24:16.800 We think he deserves a medal of honor and we want to give it to him before he passes away.

00:24:20.260 He's 100 years old.

00:24:20.940 How much longer is he going to be here?

00:24:22.120 So it's also a reminder that in the United States, small groups of people, neighbors can really get things done.

00:24:29.760 Might take a few years, might take a push, but you'll get things done.

00:24:34.660 And I think that was a nice touch.

00:24:37.300 I didn't even realize that till this morning when I was reading the paper, reading the San Diego Union Tribune.

00:24:42.060 And wow.

00:24:42.460 OK, wow.

00:24:43.020 That's that's interesting.

00:24:43.880 The neighbors basically elevated this somehow to the White House and and Trump reacted and Congress reacted.

00:24:50.100 And that's beautiful.

00:24:51.720 Owen, did you want to grab Joel or Marcella?

00:24:54.380 He has to go in a couple of minutes.

00:24:56.840 Well, I think I agree.

00:24:58.380 Agree with a lot of your assessment.

00:24:59.540 I think the it was interesting to me that the Democrats did stand up several times.

00:25:05.400 And I just thought that was interesting because I kind of expected them just to sit through the whole thing and not do anything.

00:25:10.380 Maybe heckle them along the way.

00:25:11.600 But, you know, on the insider trading thing and the hockey team and there were probably three or four other times where at least a fair number of them stood up and clapped.

00:25:20.320 Well, they stood up at one point, ironically, when he said they voted against all the tax cuts in the one big, beautiful bill.

00:25:26.820 And then some of them stood up to applaud themselves.

00:25:28.800 Like, yeah, we did.

00:25:30.500 We voted against that because, you know, they're trying to make a point, which is that they don't like the one big, beautiful bill because it cuts funding to some of their favorite state programs.

00:25:38.780 But that's just a sign of how much he broke their unity.

00:25:44.740 I mean, it was also you can't really control hundreds of people.

00:25:48.660 Did they ever really think they were going to get everybody to sit still?

00:25:52.040 I mean, Ilhan Omar and her heckling and, you know, I mean, did they ever think they were going to get everyone to behave?

00:25:56.520 It's hard enough to get, you know, a few of them to do the same thing.

00:26:01.040 I mean, it's just anyway, he did very, very well.

00:26:05.320 And he has this technique that Trump that Scott talks about, which is using an anchor.

00:26:12.300 So he'll mention a number or a figure or or an individual person.

00:26:17.860 And I tried looking for a number that was an anchor in the speech.

00:26:21.680 There wasn't really one because.

00:26:24.780 The anchors Trump usually uses are exaggerations.

00:26:29.280 But in this case, the numbers were all factually accurate.

00:26:33.640 You know, in core inflation is the lowest it's been in five years.

00:26:37.640 You know, the all the different other numbers he uses, gas prices are below and he gave the gave the average national gas price.

00:26:45.340 So he used these anchors that were actual real anchors.

00:26:47.680 I think the anchors, in a sense, were the heroes in the room.

00:26:50.800 So Trump kind of made you think of him in a heroic way because he was connecting to all these to all these heroes.

00:26:58.180 And.

00:26:58.540 I think there were some opportunities Democrats missed to to show some unity.

00:27:05.580 They did stand up a little bit, but really, I just think the country is watching.

00:27:11.580 And, you know, my 10 year old was watching it this morning and he was in bed already by the time the speech happened last night, but he was watching it in the car and went to school.

00:27:18.080 And he just couldn't believe anybody would sit down for the hockey team or for the the Medal of Honor winners.

00:27:23.500 He was just looking at me like, why do they sit down, Dad?

00:27:26.420 That's just lowering taxes.

00:27:27.900 But they some of them stood about the insider trading and that call out to Pelosi was so amazing.

00:27:34.700 I loved it.

00:27:35.520 Yeah, well, I think, you know, we all see these events differently through Scott's eyes.

00:27:42.100 I think once once you once Scott sort of showed you what's behind the curtain, it's very it's very difficult not to see it.

00:27:49.600 I also think Trump did a good job of just staying on like the 80, 20 or 90, 10 type issues where almost all Americans agree that we want these things.

00:27:58.300 And so he was really painting Democrats into a corner by just focusing on all these things where they're really popular in terms of what he's doing or really unpopular in terms of what the Democrats are doing.

00:28:08.320 And so I think he's doing a good job of focusing on the right issues going into the midterms rather than some of the more controversial things that might be more split down the middle.

00:28:17.200 Can I make an observation about that very quickly?

00:28:20.600 I got an advanced copy of some of the excerpts of the speech.

00:28:23.640 They circulate it to journalists, you know, five or six paragraphs.

00:28:27.840 And I looked through it briefly and he went after the fraud in Minnesota.

00:28:32.960 And in the excerpt that was released, it was something like fraud in the Somali community or something like that.

00:28:38.940 And I kind of said, that's not going to land very well.

00:28:42.120 I mean, even though it's really what happened, people don't like to hear a community singled out.

00:28:48.560 He must have changed the text or he ad-libbed something in the actual delivery of the speech.

00:28:53.120 Because instead of Somalis or Somali community, he said Somali pirates.

00:28:58.380 OK, that's like, oh, yeah, nobody likes the Somali pirates.

00:29:02.340 I mean, Somalis are OK.

00:29:04.520 Hardworking people. 0.99

00:29:05.860 Somali pirates, they're bad. 1.00

00:29:07.300 You know, they're like the villains in the movie. 0.92

00:29:09.160 So, yeah, we don't want Somali pirates. 0.98

00:29:11.080 I thought that was very clever.

00:29:12.560 And I'm not sure if that was an editing change or if he decided to do that.

00:29:17.380 But he does make things up as he goes along that are often improvements on whatever's been written.

00:29:25.640 Marcella, did you want to grab in a question?

00:29:29.020 I think we forget he's 79 years old, you know.

00:29:33.220 You know, it's amazing that he gave the longest state of the union speech and he never stripped the beat.

00:29:44.080 He was just on fire, you know.

00:29:47.020 And I like the flow like he was hypnotizing us because like like Joel said, he kept on bringing people into the hockey team, the different people.

00:29:57.980 And but it was like he was an orchestra director, like directing everything.

00:30:05.200 The Dems not standing at the same time go pointing as if he's he's doing a musical, like a like a musical piece of America.

00:30:17.360 So it felt short because I tend to like, oh, I mean, I tend to get bored if it's like almost a two hour speech.

00:30:29.180 But for me, it felt like bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.

00:30:32.300 And then it was over.

00:30:34.220 So there's been speeches.

00:30:35.960 I do have to say that Trump has gotten to me and I'm like, oh, it's still going, you know.

00:30:41.920 But with this, it had momentum.

00:30:43.800 It had cadence.

00:30:45.100 It had like and I don't know if Joel wants to talk about that.

00:30:49.860 Well, I think your impression was widely shared because my wife who watched the whole thing said she couldn't believe it was two hours long.

00:30:57.720 It didn't feel that long.

00:30:58.760 That's what she said.

00:30:59.480 So I think a lot of people felt that way.

00:31:02.920 And yes, I think the variety helps.

00:31:05.460 If you're listening to somebody talk, it doesn't matter how interesting they are.

00:31:08.380 If they're just talking, it does eventually get to you.

00:31:11.140 But changing the camera angles, the characters he brought in all.

00:31:17.400 And I like to I like your metaphor.

00:31:18.720 He was like a conductor conducting an orchestra.

00:31:21.200 But I don't know how he is going to top that performance next year.

00:31:24.200 I mean, are people going to descend through trap doors in the ceiling?

00:31:29.480 And, you know, swing in on ropes?

00:31:31.740 I mean, I don't know.

00:31:32.360 It's it's about one of the one of the things they did at the White House YouTube channel.

00:31:36.940 I'm not sure they were doing this live.

00:31:38.440 But when I watched the replay this morning, they had already added this in.

00:31:42.100 So maybe it was done live as the president was speaking.

00:31:45.460 If you watched in the White House YouTube, they would do a split screen every time you mentioned

00:31:49.780 a fact and they would highlight the fact with a chart or a like large type so that they drove

00:31:56.100 home the point.

00:31:56.840 Like they were basically giving you the talking points while you're watching the president

00:32:00.140 talk about them.

00:32:01.300 I thought that was also very effective.

00:32:02.640 Yeah, Trump loves charts, right?

00:32:06.020 Yeah.

00:32:06.420 The charts are right there.

00:32:07.600 And always there to save his life.

00:32:09.500 I have a question for you, Joe.

00:32:13.740 You mentioned the room, how he used it.

00:32:16.400 He used it as a theater, right?

00:32:19.740 Yeah.

00:32:19.880 It's like one of those live action theaters.

00:32:21.760 You're in there in your city and you don't know where people are going to come out from,

00:32:25.320 right?

00:32:25.540 Even, even he, he used his own enemies as props, right?

00:32:29.640 Like even I green, like getting him all angry is like the WWE almost getting all the energy

00:32:37.160 in onto him and getting him out of there.

00:32:39.980 Right.

00:32:40.380 And with the sign.

00:32:42.180 Yeah.

00:32:42.840 All that got into the spirit of the people waiting for something to happen.

00:32:48.820 So my question is, if you were the president and somebody came to you and said like, okay,

00:32:53.960 Mr. President, we don't have a space.

00:32:56.980 We don't have sitting space for the hockey players.

00:32:59.720 Where can we put him to maximize the power of them?

00:33:04.540 And do you think that Trump came up with that idea of that, doing that?

00:33:08.740 Is that something that he gets?

00:33:10.920 Yeah, I do.

00:33:11.880 I mean, that contrast was amazing.

00:33:14.560 I think he, I think that's him.

00:33:17.780 And I just say that because he's done certain things like that in the past.

00:33:21.720 In 2020, again, the speech, nobody remembers because Nancy Pelosi tore it up.

00:33:26.600 There was a soldier who came home from Afghanistan who was waiting outside and his, his wife was

00:33:32.880 in the gallery and she thought she was being honored as a representative of military spouses,

00:33:37.960 which she was.

00:33:39.480 But then the door opens and in comes the soldier and, and people cried.

00:33:44.920 You know, it's, I just think he's done it before he understands how it works.

00:33:51.260 I'll say one other thing about how he gets his enemies or his opponents to participate,

00:33:59.280 even if they don't want to.

00:34:00.620 It's not always by getting them angry.

00:34:03.180 I don't know if you remember the first state of the union after Democrats took the house in 2018,

00:34:09.860 when Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was there for the first time and they were all wearing white

00:34:15.280 to honor the suffragettes.

00:34:17.760 It was, it was a tense atmosphere.

00:34:20.760 People were expecting the confrontation between the Republican president, the new Democratic House.

00:34:26.420 And Trump said, I want to congratulate the American people in Congress for having the

00:34:31.960 most female members ever elected to the house. 0.97

00:34:35.240 And Ocasio-Cortez stands up and gives him a standing ovation.

00:34:39.660 Like, you know, I mean, so it's, it's also, he knows how to get them to do positive things

00:34:46.100 as well if he wants to.

00:34:47.600 Now that was no longer an election year.

00:34:49.440 In an election year, you want to draw a contrast.

00:34:51.200 So he gets them angry, but he can do both.

00:34:53.640 Can we give a quick shout out to, um, I mean, also the other thing he did last night was,

00:34:59.480 I'm sorry, I forget the whole story, but Enrique who came in, he's like, you know,

00:35:03.980 and here's Enrique behind like door number two.

00:35:07.720 And I am obsessed watching JD behind Trump all the time.

00:35:13.140 Cause JD's like, no way.

00:35:15.340 Like you can see his face.

00:35:16.700 Oh my God.

00:35:17.660 He's so animated.

00:35:18.640 Like he's, he is.

00:35:19.840 He's the Ed McMahon to Johnny Carson.

00:35:22.720 Yeah.

00:35:23.760 Wow, Johnny.

00:35:24.660 JD was just as surprised about everything.

00:35:26.860 It was so sweet.

00:35:28.700 I love watching JD so much.

00:35:31.240 And I, I didn't, I didn't miss that.

00:35:33.480 He said he's appointing Vance to do the fraud stuff.

00:35:36.920 Like that's his thing now.

00:35:38.940 So yeah.

00:35:39.600 Yeah.

00:35:39.840 I think he's moving Vance into the, into the spotlight.

00:35:43.800 Yeah.

00:35:44.280 That was announced a few weeks ago.

00:35:45.620 I tried, I got in touch with Vance's office and said, can you do an interview about that?

00:35:49.540 And they said, let him get a handle on the job first, you know, like it did like it was

00:35:53.380 too new.

00:35:54.180 So, but we'll, we'll, we'll be talking to him about it soon.

00:35:57.540 Oh, that'll be great.

00:35:58.560 Do you have to jet Joel?

00:35:59.680 I don't want to keep you.

00:36:00.680 Yeah, I've got, we're in the middle of an editorial meeting.

00:36:03.000 That's why I can only do these half hours, but I spent, I spent a few extra minutes with

00:36:07.640 you because I love you.

00:36:08.360 We see that.

00:36:09.300 We appreciate it so much, Joel.

00:36:11.800 We'll be, we'll be looking for your interview with Vance's office with Vance soon.

00:36:16.080 And thank you, by the way, thank you so much for always offering to come on.

00:36:22.140 And that is like the kindest, sweetest thing.

00:36:24.660 And I just want you to know that we all collectively appreciate that so much.

00:36:28.780 Oh, it's a lot of fun to come on.

00:36:30.180 My favorite, my favorite community.

00:36:32.060 Oh, thank you.

00:36:34.260 All right, Joel.

00:36:35.120 Then we'll see you soon.

00:36:36.200 All right.

00:36:36.640 See you guys.

00:36:37.340 Have a good meeting.

00:36:38.320 Take care.

00:36:39.200 Bye.

00:36:40.680 Yes.

00:36:41.720 Cheers to Joel.

00:36:42.840 Cheers.

00:36:43.060 Cheers.

00:36:46.080 All right, you guys, I think we're, we're alone now.

00:36:50.280 So I just want to give you an update.

00:36:52.560 I said, you know, Marcella asked me yesterday what my predictions are for me watching the

00:36:58.420 State of the Union.

00:36:59.140 And I said, it might be a shot every minute of vodka, but you'll be happy to know I did

00:37:05.300 not need to drink.

00:37:06.560 I did not have a shot of anything because it was epic.

00:37:11.700 I loved it.

00:37:13.280 I listen, I grew up in the theater.

00:37:15.460 I come from a show business family and a business family.

00:37:19.080 So, um, and New Yorkers and blah, blah, blah.

00:37:23.420 So Trump is the ultimate New York mogul showman.

00:37:28.400 He understands how to put on a show, how to involve everybody.

00:37:32.460 And he sucked me right in.

00:37:34.940 And I loved his timing and pacing.

00:37:38.360 I love the visuals.

00:37:39.900 I love the silence.

00:37:41.340 I love them sitting.

00:37:42.620 I loved everything about it.

00:37:45.280 I love the metals flying, all of it.

00:37:48.380 Um, I love JD, even, um, um, Johnson.

00:37:51.980 He's, he could never get Botox.

00:37:53.840 He's got that good.

00:37:55.560 Face.

00:37:56.180 Like he furrows his brow.

00:37:57.740 He looks so young.

00:37:59.200 They're like all characters in this multi-dimensional play that we watched last night.

00:38:04.340 And I loved every fricking minute of it.

00:38:06.160 And I loved watching Ilhan, Il, Il Han Omar, you know, you dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. 0.87

00:38:15.820 I mean, I'm like, Oh, you only get upset when we're talking about the land you love, Somalia, because it's not America. 0.96

00:38:24.460 And a lot of them really showed their disdain for our country and for their constituents.

00:38:31.500 And I was like, there's all the advertising you need.

00:38:35.140 And so for me, um, I went to bed, like, I'm proud of people that are pro America and put Americans first.

00:38:42.800 And I can clearly see by their own demeanor and their own inactions, who hates this country and does not care about us.

00:38:53.060 So that being said, like, I'm going to toss to you first, Owen.

00:38:57.660 What was your grand takeaway from last night?

00:39:01.240 Well, I thought it was a great speech.

00:39:02.600 It sounded kind of like a rally speech to me, um, which I say that is a good thing because I think that's what gets people really going.

00:39:09.640 And I think he definitely, um, was appealing to his base.

00:39:13.240 I think he, he did appeal to independence, I think, and, and call for unity in many ways.

00:39:18.340 I think it probably would be appealing to anyone who actually is open-minded that, you know, I don't know if it's 2% or 5% that'll actually swing one way or the other.

00:39:26.240 But, um, you know, he was just taking victory lap after victory lap.

00:39:29.860 And I don't, I don't think the Democrats were prepared for that.

00:39:32.100 I think they were expecting him to come in like wounded from Epstein files and all these other, you know, the Supreme Court ruling against him and all these other things.

00:39:38.720 And instead it was just all positive.

00:39:40.760 It was just, we, we fixed everything.

00:39:43.740 We turned everything around.

00:39:44.800 We've, you know, everything's going in the right direction now.

00:39:47.120 And so I think it was great.

00:39:49.300 Um, you know, I did post a story about some of the political strategists that gave grades and some of them were like A++ and some of them were F.

00:39:58.540 I'm sure those are the Democrats.

00:39:59.660 So I do think it's going to be very much two movies on one screen that I'm sure anyone who's Democrat aligned would have just hated everything coming out of his mouth.

00:40:07.740 But I think anybody who is an independent probably would have liked it.

00:40:11.540 I think they would have said this is the right type of messaging and the right type of things.

00:40:14.900 And also that he didn't make it all about himself.

00:40:18.000 You know, when Trump does his rallies, it's usually all about what he's going to do and all his plans and how he's so important to fixing everything.

00:40:25.060 And in this case, he brought in all these other heroes and all these other victims and all these other people.

00:40:31.120 But he also gave credit to Rubio and he gave credit to, you know, all these other people, um, in his administration.

00:40:38.180 And so I think it was very much like we've got a great team and we're all doing things in the right direction.

00:40:44.020 And we're trying to push these things that are really important to move things forward in the right way.

00:40:48.560 So I loved it.

00:40:51.320 Awesome.

00:40:52.040 Marcella, what's your takeaway?

00:40:53.560 That's interesting that you say that, Owen, because he didn't make it about himself.

00:40:59.040 He made it about America.

00:41:00.300 The speech and, you know, you just hit on it very well because his speech was about, um, showcasing the wonderful wins that America has, but also giving us a vision of the future.

00:41:16.820 Because he talked about at the very end of the speech, it was very inspiring.

00:41:21.360 He said, there's no challenge an American cannot, Americans cannot overcome.

00:41:25.800 Um, there's no, there's no horizon too distant for us to claim.

00:41:30.440 And he talked about the golden age of America is upon us.

00:41:34.140 Um, and that's how he closed.

00:41:36.040 And he also indicated the revolution that began in 1776 has not ended at all.

00:41:43.100 Um, and it's still going, um, and I think that's what could grab independence because it wasn't something where it's like, oh, me or Republicans.

00:41:54.120 It was, no, it's America. 0.87

00:41:56.360 And I think Erica touched on it.

00:41:58.540 It's America and anti-America. 0.99

00:42:01.420 And I think the way that he made that happen where we were thinking he was going to go very, um, very party oriented, like us Republicans, we do everything and you Democrats suck. 0.95

00:42:19.280 You know, so he didn't do it in that manner.

00:42:21.920 He did it in this, this beautiful way of doing it, you know, sort of, you know, but it was more about, Hey, this unites us.

00:42:31.280 And, um, and then he went on, uh, with litany of the 80, 20, um, issues.

00:42:39.680 Yeah.

00:42:40.040 Issues like the save act, like, Hey, have an ID to vote.

00:42:43.880 Uh, no driver's license for illegals because it could cause people to die, uh, $1,000 for every child, uh, insider trade and insider trading. 0.97

00:42:54.980 Um, which I love because I thought of Erica because he called out, I don't know if this is when he called out Nancy.

00:43:00.920 Did she stand up for this?

00:43:02.240 Yeah, that was, that was it.

00:43:03.560 Yeah.

00:43:04.220 Yeah.

00:43:04.640 So I found it great, but so did people because the CNN poll that came out, uh, said that there was 63% of, of the.

00:43:14.660 Of whoever was pulled.

00:43:15.800 I'm not sure exactly the, the polling range, but 63 found that really positive speech and 36, not 25, found it negative.

00:43:26.900 So.

00:43:27.580 Oh, and I think, um, I don't think Trump did that to the Democrats.

00:43:32.280 I think the Democrats did that to themselves by their behavior.

00:43:35.500 So I think he was just spitting facts and truths and their reaction and him just saying like, really?

00:43:43.060 Like that was on them.

00:43:44.340 He showed his evidence.

00:43:45.740 Yeah.

00:43:46.060 Like he brought the receipts and they were just sitting in their chairs.

00:43:49.000 Sergio, what is your takeaway?

00:43:51.100 Well, uh, that was an amazing, um, this, uh, analysis by Joe, first of all, I love how he broke it down that way.

00:43:59.920 And, and he understands that the show is the show.

00:44:04.000 That's what Scott always told us that a people, somebody was asking me yesterday.

00:44:08.860 Well, uh, let me see when he's going to get to the policy part.

00:44:12.460 It's like, there's no, there's no policy.

00:44:14.200 It's like the, everything is the policy.

00:44:16.960 All of it.

00:44:18.460 And like you, Erica, you were so right about that.

00:44:20.820 You know, the showmanship and nobody can do it better than he does because at the end, Marcela says that all the time, facts don't matter.

00:44:29.440 What matters is how people feels today, this morning.

00:44:33.620 And, um, the people that watched it, which is, uh, only the ones that, you know, are not independent even.

00:44:42.080 I don't think it's going to be a lot of independence.

00:44:43.440 You know, I'm going to spend tonight watching this, it's going to be, it's his base.

00:44:48.040 This is a pep rally, right?

00:44:49.440 Uh, uh, Owen is right.

00:44:51.280 It's like, it's like a rally for the base first to show, you know, this is how we're going to start the year and we're going strong here.

00:44:58.600 We're not going to, we're not, uh, uh, I was going to say a word, but, uh, you know, we're not very cat pudding, you know, very careful walking through this.

00:45:09.660 So we're going to, he's bold.

00:45:11.160 He said at the beginning of the speech, he said, uh, America, our nation is bigger, better, richer, and stronger than ever before.

00:45:20.100 He said that, right?

00:45:21.200 So those are the first words.

00:45:22.840 He didn't say like, okay, let me tell you some things, you know, he just went for it.

00:45:26.960 That feeling that everybody has right now that saw the rally can, can be transmitted to other people and that's the effect.

00:45:35.900 It's not going to be about, um, there's no effect for the Democrats today on this, uh, speech, you know, it's just, uh, they're going to use it for their own purposes.

00:45:44.960 With good editing, they can make Al Green look like a hero, right?

00:45:49.960 They, they, they can do it.

00:45:51.960 They can totally do it.

00:45:52.960 They, they're going to make him do that.

00:45:53.960 They're going to, he's going to look like a hero in their eyes.

00:45:56.960 Right.

00:45:57.960 But that base that they have, I think is going down and down.

00:46:01.960 Like Owen was saying, some independents are going to be like, you know what?

00:46:04.960 Why do these guys look so happy all the time?

00:46:06.960 Everybody's so excited on the right.

00:46:09.960 You know, they're like so positive and overheated.

00:46:12.960 So everybody's miserable.

00:46:13.960 Again, when he put the hockey players next to the press, right?

00:46:18.960 The most, uh, the, the most miserable people sometimes, you know, and one of them had a mask.

00:46:26.960 Right.

00:46:27.960 That took us a screenshot.

00:46:29.960 He had a mask on and he didn't want to look at them.

00:46:32.960 Right.

00:46:33.960 He was just these guys with gold medals, wonderful man, beautiful looking man.

00:46:37.960 And this guy was like this, looking at his monitor, right?

00:46:40.960 This, that was it.

00:46:41.960 Right.

00:46:42.960 That was the, that was teaching you what was the last four years and what we have ahead of us.

00:46:47.960 So that's a, that was the best speech I've ever seen in not the text itself, the whole show of it.

00:46:55.960 Like, uh, I think in all fairness, the press is not supposed to react during the state of the union.

00:47:02.960 So there's that, but I mean, how do you not react to them?

00:47:06.960 I mean, that's, I mean, if you have a mask on, it's the perfect excuse not to do anything.

00:47:10.960 Right.

00:47:11.960 Oh yeah.

00:47:12.960 Like this.

00:47:13.960 Right.

00:47:14.960 Here's the picture.

00:47:17.960 See him on the bottom with the mask.

00:47:19.960 Oh yeah.

00:47:20.960 Yeah.

00:47:21.960 She looks like she's barfing. 1.00

00:47:23.960 And then for anyone who is an independent who might've been flipping back and forth between the state of the union and the counter programming that Democrats put on.

00:47:31.960 I don't, I assume all of you have seen all the people in the frog suits.

00:47:35.960 It was a joke.

00:47:36.960 Oh my God. 0.75

00:47:37.960 I mean, it, it just looked like a clown show.

00:47:38.960 I, I didn't, I couldn't even watch it. 0.86

00:47:40.960 Like, I was just like, what the hell is that?

00:47:42.960 Like, I can't imagine anybody who's taking politics seriously.

00:47:45.960 They were asking people at a campus.

00:47:47.960 Get into that and say, yeah, let's listen to this.

00:47:50.960 This must be good.

00:47:51.960 You know, yesterday they were asking people at a campus, students, what they thought about the, the, the state of the union the day before, which it hadn't happened yet.

00:47:59.960 And they were already saying that it was horrible, that he was divisive.

00:48:04.960 The point is that the left is not watching this at all.

00:48:07.960 They're all going to be watching because I used to date somebody on the left and I didn't have even permission.

00:48:13.960 You dated the enemy.

00:48:15.960 Huh?

00:48:16.960 You dated the enemy.

00:48:17.960 I dated the enemy and I was the enemy, you know, part of the enemy.

00:48:20.960 Right.

00:48:21.960 And, and I never got, we never sat down like, oh baby, let's watch Trump.

00:48:25.960 Never happened.

00:48:26.960 Right.

00:48:27.960 So the only information I got about Trump was through other sources and it was all lies.

00:48:32.960 Right.

00:48:33.960 So only until I started watching it myself, I, I, my, my, you know, I was able to see.

00:48:37.960 So anybody's out there that can not watch him live.

00:48:40.960 I feel sorry for you, you know.

00:48:42.960 You know, Robbie, Robbie Starbuck talked about the frogs.

00:48:45.960 Someone else said this, Sergio.

00:48:47.960 Oh, nice.

00:48:48.960 From our locals.

00:48:51.960 Beautiful.

00:48:52.960 Robbie Starbuck talked about the frogs and he was like, this reminds you of Batman where like the evil Joker, uh, press or whatever had like different, like crazy outfits.

00:49:05.960 It's the Joker style.

00:49:06.960 Yeah.

00:49:07.960 And then there's the good guys.

00:49:08.960 And then there's the bad guys.

00:49:09.960 And it was funny because it does remind me of that.

00:49:13.960 And, and like, who would think like frogs are cool.

00:49:16.960 This is his rebuttal.

00:49:18.960 He's like, Oh, look at me.

00:49:19.960 I'm tearing up one piece of, um, big, strong man.

00:49:20.960 Did not like it. 1.00

00:49:21.960 It's so stupid. 1.00

00:49:22.960 Is that Gavin? 1.00

00:49:23.960 That's not Gavin.

00:49:24.960 No, it's Nate balloon or blew in for Utah.

00:49:28.960 My state of the union response.

00:49:29.960 He tore up a piece of paper.

00:49:30.960 Like Nancy. 0.69

00:49:31.960 Mm-hmm.

00:49:32.960 Well, I found the dem Democrats response boring.

00:49:35.960 I mean, I have to say that.

00:49:36.960 Uh, I, you know, I don't know.

00:49:37.960 I know Erica, I watched it for you.

00:49:38.960 Thank you.

00:49:39.960 It was not exciting at all.

00:49:40.960 I don't know.

00:49:41.960 Oh, and if you had comments.

00:49:42.960 Like, I know they talked about affordability.

00:49:43.960 I didn't watch the whole thing, but Marsala.

00:49:44.960 Did they?

00:49:45.960 Yeah.

00:49:46.960 Yeah.

00:49:47.960 Yeah.

00:49:48.960 Yeah.

00:49:49.960 Yeah.

00:49:50.960 Yeah.

00:49:51.960 Yeah.

00:49:52.960 Yeah.

00:49:53.960 Yeah.

00:49:54.960 Yeah.

00:49:55.960 Yeah.

00:49:56.960 I didn't watch the whole thing, but Marsala, did they like talk about how they would make

00:50:00.460 things more affordable?

00:50:01.960 No, they just talked about what they hate about Trump.

00:50:05.960 Yeah.

00:50:06.960 It doesn't seem like they ever have any ideas about here's what we're going to do that's

00:50:11.960 better.

00:50:12.960 They never do.

00:50:13.960 No.

00:50:14.960 No.

00:50:15.960 They didn't have a risk.

00:50:16.960 What's Sergio showing us?

00:50:17.960 You're on mute.

00:50:18.960 I love that you're on mute so much.

00:50:20.960 You're on mute.

00:50:21.960 I did it.

00:50:22.960 I did it.

00:50:23.960 All right.

00:50:24.960 You did it.

00:50:25.960 Okay.

00:50:26.960 So this man right here, right?

00:50:28.960 Yeah.

00:50:29.960 Look at this man.

00:50:30.960 So he can be like the Jim Caviezel, you know, Superman.

00:50:33.960 Uh, he is the, the face of America now, right?

00:50:36.960 This is the guy that we want to, he can be president someday.

00:50:39.960 He stood up.

00:50:40.960 He was in crutches.

00:50:42.960 Didn't you make Joel president today too?

00:50:44.960 Did I?

00:50:45.960 So yeah, this guy, he stood up, you know, he, he, he was standing or sitting, right?

00:50:50.960 He was doing, he stood up looking at the eyes of the president.

00:50:53.960 Yeah.

00:50:54.960 And it was beautiful.

00:50:55.960 So how did that make you feel?

00:50:56.960 Right?

00:50:57.960 Oh my God.

00:50:58.960 What a guy, what a guy, what a story.

00:51:00.960 I mean, all those people, I mean, all of those people like pulled at your heart or made you

00:51:06.960 proud, or you just felt like the red, white, and blue running through your veins, you know?

00:51:11.960 And you're like, these are our people.

00:51:12.960 These are Americans.

00:51:13.960 This is, this is a, a little snapshot of America all here in this room.

00:51:19.960 And it was so, I mean, look, I put on my red, white, and blue.

00:51:23.960 You guys, I'm wearing red, white, and blue socks under my slippers.

00:51:27.960 I was like, yes.

00:51:28.960 I pulled out all these baseball hats that I have.

00:51:31.960 And I'm like, no, I have headphones on.

00:51:32.960 I can't do it.

00:51:33.960 But I mean, I just felt so much pride after that.

00:51:36.960 And I was like, oh my God, he's going to end this speech.

00:51:39.960 And it's going to start, young man, da, da, da, da, da, da.

00:51:44.960 I was like, if he plays the YMCA at the end, it's on.

00:51:48.960 So, you know, I guess the next one, maybe we'll have some music and pyrotechnics.

00:51:52.960 But I mean, all of it just felt so American.

00:51:54.960 And like, I don't even want to, you know, focus so much on the Democrats because they're 0.99

00:52:01.960 just, like I said, like big sour pusses and it's just not fun. 0.96

00:52:05.960 And it's like, why can't we rally together and be like, yeah, F yeah.

00:52:09.960 Like, this is America.

00:52:10.960 We are, we are exceptional.

00:52:12.960 And like, let's just throw it forward and keep going.

00:52:15.960 But.

00:52:16.960 They're drama kids, right, Erica?

00:52:17.960 They're drama kids.

00:52:18.960 Drama.

00:52:19.960 Yes, drama.

00:52:20.960 Al Green is a legend now, right?

00:52:22.960 He's going to try to go, what is he going to do next year?

00:52:24.960 That's what I'm trying to do.

00:52:25.960 That's what I'm trying to do. 1.00

00:52:26.960 Oh, he's pathetic. 0.99

00:52:27.960 I mean, he's like, him and his cane and he's like, oh, you know, and it's like, okay, 0.99

00:52:31.960 you're holding up, you're, you're still mad about the fake hoax from like two weeks ago

00:52:36.960 that everyone forgot.

00:52:37.960 And, you know, and I'm like, just don't even bother coming.

00:52:40.960 But I'm glad he left early because, you know, he's unsightly.

00:52:43.960 Oh, shout out to Letterman in a suit.

00:52:46.960 Yeah, he wore a suit.

00:52:48.960 Shaking hands with the president.

00:52:49.960 Right?

00:52:50.960 We love that.

00:52:51.960 That's good.

00:52:52.960 That's a, that's a very important sign to have, to see people dressing up for Trump,

00:52:58.960 like Zelensky.

00:52:59.960 And they caught a few people sleeping.

00:53:02.960 A few of the Dems were asleep.

00:53:04.960 And is it true only a few of these Supreme Court?

00:53:09.960 Yeah, only four.

00:53:10.960 Is that normal?

00:53:12.960 There is few of them that don't go.

00:53:16.960 Like Alito is known never to go and he's Republican.

00:53:20.960 Um, but Sotomayor has always gone.

00:53:23.960 Sonia Sotomayor.

00:53:24.960 And she wasn't there.

00:53:26.960 Um, it was just Kagan, uh, Roberts, uh, Kavanaugh and Barrett that were there.

00:53:35.960 Um, and you know, Kagan is a liberal judge, uh, liberal justice.

00:53:41.960 So, I mean, she was still there.

00:53:43.960 Um, the rest were not, uh, five others were not.

00:53:47.960 The other one was probably in a theater play that night.

00:53:49.960 Cause she just wanted to be a celebrity. 0.98

00:53:52.960 You know, they don't like, um, being too public.

00:53:56.960 Uh, that's just, that's just their general demeanor.

00:53:59.960 Um, and I think cameras caught chief justice Roberts.

00:54:04.960 Like, I don't know if, if, if, uh, he was like paying attention or what, but they caught

00:54:10.960 him like looking down or something, you know, it is what it is, but Trump still greeted them.

00:54:16.960 And then in his speech, he still went after them.

00:54:19.960 So he, you know, he is Trump after all.

00:54:23.960 He is Trump.

00:54:24.960 Yeah.

00:54:25.960 Owen.

00:54:26.960 The story I read said he snubbed, uh, Barrett that he didn't shake her hand or something.

00:54:31.960 So I didn't, I didn't watch that part of it before the speech started, but I didn't hear

00:54:35.960 that he, he turned away from her or something and didn't greet her.

00:54:40.960 But I noticed you worked on her, um, expression this year because remember the last time everyone's

00:54:46.960 like, did you see her face looking at him?

00:54:49.960 And she needs a little bit more work. 1.00

00:54:51.960 She looks a little bit, uh, like she hates his guts, but it was a little bit softer than

00:54:56.960 the time before.

00:54:57.960 In my opinion, allegedly.

00:54:58.960 I'm guessing he'd love to take that pick back and go with someone else.

00:55:01.960 Oh yeah.

00:55:02.960 Uh, go ahead, Marcella.

00:55:05.960 I don't know about that because she's favored him in the past.

00:55:08.960 You know, it's hit or miss, you know, she's not a Thomas.

00:55:12.960 So Thomas wasn't there either.

00:55:14.960 Um, they just, you know, they, they have their ways of looking at the law and, you know,

00:55:21.960 Trump was asked if he would take her back and he didn't say he would, he just said no comment

00:55:29.960 or whatever.

00:55:30.960 But I, I really think he, she's favored him in the past on certain rulings.

00:55:35.960 So, uh, it's, it's a mixed bag because who would have appointed somebody just the same?

00:55:42.960 Right.

00:55:43.960 I don't know.

00:55:44.960 Yeah.

00:55:45.960 Canon seems like a potential pick for the future.

00:55:48.960 Yeah.

00:55:49.960 We'll see.

00:55:50.960 That's the, that's the other thing is that, um, that's coming up.

00:55:54.960 Some of them are getting older.

00:55:55.960 Um, Thomas himself is getting older.

00:55:57.960 So there'll probably be somebody.

00:55:59.960 I know.

00:56:00.960 I want nine Thomas's.

00:56:02.960 Um, but, um, who else was there?

00:56:06.960 Um, Mark, Marco Rubio was there sitting there.

00:56:10.960 And I think, I don't know if Sergio was saying this, uh, he was working.

00:56:14.960 Yeah.

00:56:15.960 He was texting, uh, one point and I took a screenshot of it and I sent it to you guys.

00:56:21.960 Like, look at him.

00:56:22.960 He's always working.

00:56:23.960 And like the camera panned out and, and Trump was speaking and he was the, on the, on the

00:56:28.960 phone.

00:56:29.960 So we had a group chat going last night and Owen was missing from it.

00:56:33.960 So we made him our designated survivor last night.

00:56:37.960 So the three of us were taking one for the team.

00:56:40.960 And then Owen would have come in and save the day if something happened to us.

00:56:44.960 So he was ours, but all right, you guys, well, I, I think this was a great show.

00:56:49.960 We have a few minutes, but we'll, we'll just end a little bit early.

00:56:53.960 So everyone can get on, uh, their way tomorrow.

00:56:56.960 We have a special guest.

00:56:58.960 We have Corey DeAngelis coming in and I'll post, um, a bit about him after the show.

00:57:04.960 Cause I really want you guys to get familiar with he, with who he is a little bit.

00:57:08.960 If you don't know already, because he is very pro school choice, pro student, pro parent.

00:57:15.960 Um, he's someone that is fighting the good fight to protect the future of our children.

00:57:23.960 Um, and I think that we're really lucky that he agreed to come on and you're going to love him.

00:57:28.960 So look for a post.

00:57:30.960 Um, I'll repost this show after, and I'll put information about Corey in there.

00:57:35.960 So you could take a peek, uh, before you meet him tomorrow morning, if you haven't met him yet.

00:57:39.960 And Owen, Sergio and Marcella, I love you guys.

00:57:43.960 And we love all of the simultaneous zippers.

00:57:46.960 And I know a couple of people were coming back today for the first time.

00:57:50.960 And I want to say thank you for coming back and we miss Scott too.

00:57:55.960 And there would have been nothing better than to have Scott's take on the state of the union.

00:57:59.960 So I know it's not the same, but we're all here together and that's, what's important right now.

00:58:05.960 And, um, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else talking about this today than with every single person on here, um, on all the platforms.

00:58:13.960 So thank you for being here with us and we'll be back tomorrow morning, bright and early with another cup of coffee.

00:58:21.960 And, um, Brie, thanks for hosting us today.

00:58:24.960 And let's give a final sip to our beloved and super, super miss Scott Adams.

00:58:31.960 Scott, I hope we're, we're doing you proud and the, the chat, the zippers, the beloved, they're so smart and we're watching everybody.

00:58:39.960 So you guys have a very, very useful day and, um, we love you so much.

00:58:45.960 And thank you. And to Scott, to Scott, golden age, Scott, golden age, America, America.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - February 26, 2026

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