Real Coffee with Scott Adams - March 11, 2026


Episode 3112 - The Scott Adams School 03⧸11⧸26


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1 hour and 3 minutes

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11,711

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695

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9

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Toxicity

7

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Hate speech

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Jack Posobiec joins us to talk about his experiences in the military and how he got his start in the intelligence community. We also discuss the recent events in the Middle East, including the latest in Iran and Iraq.

Transcript

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00:00:00.880 I think we're starting up. I'll let you guys tell me what you see.
00:00:07.440 I see Steven. Thank God.
00:00:10.060 Our first person GMs.
00:00:13.180 All right.
00:00:16.100 Victory is mine.
00:00:18.840 Yeah, we have locals.
00:00:21.080 How's YouTube looking? Let's see. I don't see anything on YouTube.
00:00:23.460 YouTube is there.
00:00:24.480 Oh, it is? Okay, good.
00:00:25.480 I'm forgiven by believing in Jesus Christ who died for me and Rose again.
00:00:29.060 All right, good.
00:00:32.840 Welcome in, everybody.
00:00:34.240 Welcome, Goldie.
00:00:35.240 Welcome, SGV.
00:00:37.360 You can see we have a foursome today. 0.87
00:00:40.980 We have Jack Posobiec joining us today.
00:00:45.020 I'm not sure if they see us yet.
00:00:46.460 Do they see the screenshot?
00:00:47.860 I don't think they see us.
00:00:49.660 Oh, they just hear us so far?
00:00:51.320 Well, I think the screenshot of Scott might be showing.
00:00:56.560 Interesting.
00:00:59.060 It's always fun.
00:01:00.820 Let's see.
00:01:03.200 Let me take a gander.
00:01:05.240 I noticed there's a, it says 12-22-24 for some reason.
00:01:11.080 Oh, my God.
00:01:15.340 I can't.
00:01:16.180 It says Trump in Panama Canal.
00:01:18.380 Did we take over?
00:01:19.700 I redid all that.
00:01:21.300 Anyway, maybe I didn't hit save.
00:01:24.700 I don't know.
00:01:26.120 But can the locals see us or hear us?
00:01:28.280 No.
00:01:28.640 I'm going to start over.
00:01:30.200 Wait, let me hit play.
00:01:31.860 I think they can hear us at least.
00:01:33.460 But they, I think they're looking at Scott's head.
00:01:37.240 Why?
00:01:38.020 You guys, I'm going to start over.
00:01:39.640 Because you're sharing a clip.
00:01:41.720 If you want to like stop sharing your screen, maybe we'd come back up.
00:01:44.520 I'm, I am sharing a screen.
00:01:48.640 Well, I'm assuming that's what the Rumble Studio.
00:01:50.840 There we go.
00:01:51.480 There you go.
00:01:51.960 Oh, my Lord.
00:01:53.060 So now can they see?
00:01:54.460 Yes.
00:01:55.080 Yeah.
00:01:55.860 You guys, day two.
00:01:58.160 Day two.
00:01:58.520 I mean, it takes time.
00:01:59.680 It takes time for it too.
00:02:01.700 All right.
00:02:02.460 That being said.
00:02:03.320 You need to put Vester in charge.
00:02:04.540 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:02:05.500 All right.
00:02:05.720 That being said, I think we have enough time to go right into the sip clip.
00:02:10.160 So you guys, grab your vessels.
00:02:12.820 It's a, it's a good one.
00:02:14.560 Here we go.
00:02:16.340 Today we'll have a very special simultaneous sip.
00:02:19.940 No, today will not be a normal simultaneous sip.
00:02:23.100 It's a special one.
00:02:24.420 So today we're going to have a simultaneous sip for our men and women in uniform who have
00:02:31.800 protected us so well so far.
00:02:34.300 And we're active in Iran.
00:02:37.080 Well, actually active in Iraq.
00:02:39.440 And this time we're going to drink to them.
00:02:43.800 So this will be your very special simultaneous sip for the military as a thank you and show
00:02:50.160 respect.
00:02:51.400 Get ready.
00:02:53.120 One, two, three.
00:02:57.760 Special military simultaneous sip.
00:03:00.240 It was as good as I thought it would be.
00:03:03.160 Quite good.
00:03:03.840 Quite good.
00:03:05.860 How fitting was that?
00:03:08.060 Oh.
00:03:08.540 I love that.
00:03:09.800 Welcome to the Scott Adams School, everybody.
00:03:13.300 I'm Erica.
00:03:14.420 And I want to introduce our special guest professor today.
00:03:18.620 We have Jack Posobiec in the house, one of our favorite people.
00:03:23.780 Jack, we were talking before the show that we would love for you, for those that might not
00:03:28.420 know you, if you could give some background about who you are and where they can find you.
00:03:33.500 And that way they'll understand better your presenting today.
00:03:39.740 Wait, I know.
00:03:40.320 I will.
00:03:40.620 But I just have to ask.
00:03:41.880 He just said, he said Iran.
00:03:43.720 I know.
00:03:44.040 How did, was that, that was December?
00:03:48.520 Was that what it was?
00:03:50.040 No.
00:03:50.720 Ignore that one.
00:03:51.740 That was a whole other thing.
00:03:53.060 Yeah.
00:03:53.600 Wow.
00:03:54.840 I was, I was, I was listening.
00:03:56.800 Cause you mentioned before you said you primed me, right?
00:03:59.700 So you use priming and you said, there's a coincidental sip today.
00:04:03.900 I said, okay, we'll be going with this.
00:04:05.580 I grabbed my blackout coffee cup.
00:04:07.260 And, and, and then we said, we're active in Iran.
00:04:09.780 And I'm like, I know, is that crazy?
00:04:14.680 And then, but then he said, oh, wait, I mean Iraq, but you know, it's that like Freudian
00:04:19.260 or maybe he knew something.
00:04:20.940 Maybe he knew something.
00:04:23.080 And then of course, I guess we did in June have the Iran issue, but wow, that was, that
00:04:28.480 was probably like seven or eight years ago.
00:04:31.700 That one.
00:04:32.200 I know it was so random.
00:04:34.300 It was just a coincidence, but, but yeah, so for my background, so yeah, you guys might
00:04:41.040 have seen me with a turning point USA or the show I do called human events daily, every
00:04:46.020 day.
00:04:46.320 And we run humanevents.com.
00:04:47.880 That's the old human events magazine that we're bringing back for the digital age.
00:04:52.740 And prior to all this, originally from the Philadelphia area and joined the United States
00:04:58.200 Navy served as a U S Navy intelligence officer in places like East Asia and in Guantanamo
00:05:04.300 Bay and have been a lifelong fan of Dilbert from before I could even understood, understand,
00:05:12.440 you know, what, what any of it was, cause I didn't know what office culture was.
00:05:15.420 And then eventually I, you know, I was, I guess in my, my twenties, like college era
00:05:20.480 when I finally got into you know, working in offices, internships, that kind of thing.
00:05:25.420 And I said, and then, and I said, Oh, this is what it's about.
00:05:29.120 Got it.
00:05:29.780 Right.
00:05:30.600 And, uh, you know, just, just been here ever since.
00:05:32.900 And, you know, always followed Scott back from, you know, the Periscope days and 2015,
00:05:38.440 2016, even remember I was still in the intelligence community in 2015, 2016.
00:05:44.380 And I would be, you know, on my break, pulling up his, his blog, even before he was doing the
00:05:50.660 Periscope.
00:05:51.360 So, you know, just, uh, just kind of been a student ever since.
00:05:54.600 And the whole Poso family, right.
00:05:57.360 Would listen to Scott.
00:05:58.640 And didn't you say.
00:06:00.060 Like a family.
00:06:01.260 I'm sure some of them were probably listening and sipping right now.
00:06:04.280 My mother, my father, uh, Tanya Tay, my brother, Kevin, uh, my kids, you know, when,
00:06:09.760 you know, if they were around, if it was the weekend or something, I mean, we were.
00:06:13.800 Oh, the whole Poso family would, would listen in and still is.
00:06:16.660 We love the Poso family.
00:06:18.620 Shout out to Tanya.
00:06:19.480 You go girl.
00:06:20.520 Um, that is amazing.
00:06:22.160 So listen, before we get into the whole nitty gritty, we are going to just start off with
00:06:27.580 a story that we need to delve into because I don't believe it's true, Marcella, what
00:06:32.300 you told me about flying cars.
00:06:36.400 Yeah.
00:06:37.020 So it turns out there's a flying, um, there's electric air taxis.
00:06:43.160 That are about to take flight in 26 States.
00:06:46.780 Um, the federal aviation administration approved eight pilot programs that will allow a handful
00:06:52.220 of companies, including Archer aviation, better technologies, just very different, um, you
00:06:58.580 know, startups for flying taxis.
00:07:02.840 Um, the three year program, which will span 26 States for now is assigned to ensure U S 0.91
00:07:08.180 companies lead the way in the next generation aircraft use for personal travel, the pilot
00:07:13.160 program known as advanced air mobility and electric vertical takeoff and landing integration
00:07:19.180 pilot program.
00:07:20.240 Say that fast was announced last year by president Trump in an effort to speed development of
00:07:27.340 the futuristic aircraft.
00:07:28.680 So you're going to be able to, um, take off it's E V T O L E V toll companies have emerged
00:07:37.740 in recent years.
00:07:38.740 Um, you can, you know, do this.
00:07:42.460 And, uh, I think the secretary of transportation, uh, posted this on X yesterday or two days ago,
00:07:50.500 and it's a very, uh, very Trump, very, very, uh, um, golden age is I like how it's a pilot
00:07:59.500 program.
00:08:00.440 It's a pilot pilot program.
00:08:03.460 It's a pilot pilot program.
00:08:05.260 Take your Uber, but over the air.
00:08:08.560 I think they're starting out with cargo and medical type stuff, but it looks like they are
00:08:13.140 prepping.
00:08:13.920 One of the companies says they're prepping for the LA Olympics in 28.
00:08:16.520 And, uh, they're doing some stuff in the New York port authority and Texas.
00:08:22.460 So depending on where you live, you might start seeing some flying cars.
00:08:26.400 Are these drones or are they, are they piloted?
00:08:31.240 Passenger?
00:08:32.040 They're, they, they, they're, uh, piloted, um, aircraft.
00:08:36.260 They look sort of, uh, between an aircraft and a helicopter.
00:08:41.640 So they're very, the big.
00:08:44.000 Yeah.
00:08:44.520 It's, it's, it's basically, it probably looks like a really big drone.
00:08:47.700 It has like the, you know, vertical takeoff and landing sort of thing and it's electric.
00:08:52.460 So it's not, you know, fuel.
00:08:55.160 So that's probably the other big thing is that it's taking place with just electric power.
00:08:59.700 Oh my Lord.
00:09:00.960 What do you think, Jack?
00:09:01.800 Are you getting in one of those?
00:09:02.900 I want to know which cities are running the pilot program so I can try to avoid those cities for the remainder of the program.
00:09:13.360 Look, I remember when the, so I would go out to Phoenix.
00:09:17.460 It's a lot for, for, yeah, I see it.
00:09:20.080 It's, uh, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Houston, and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.
00:09:24.880 So, but also 12 concepts across New England and we're also seeing something, Louisiana, Mississippi, Sudan, Gulf of America, by the way.
00:09:35.800 Um, and, uh, you know, so it's, it's quite a, quite a few spots.
00:09:41.280 It might be hard to avoid all that, but I'm just, I was going to say that I remember when I would go out to Phoenix a lot for Turning Point USA.
00:09:47.860 And I know I still do.
00:09:49.500 And they were the first city, I think, outside of California to get the self-driving taxis and the Waymos.
00:09:58.560 And boy, I did not trust those things.
00:10:01.080 And I just still don't.
00:10:02.120 I really don't.
00:10:03.300 No, not at all.
00:10:04.320 I won't get in them.
00:10:05.160 Um, and here's, here's what it is though.
00:10:08.400 I think when you're in the city, they're actually not too bad because I've, I've seen them, you know, just kind of spotted them.
00:10:15.680 And this one time I remember I was really, um, I just had one of those nights, like, you know, when you travel sometime and you, you just have like a, like a dead night, you're just, nothing's going on.
00:10:25.740 And you, but you have to be somewhere in the morning and I happen to be driving behind one of the Waymos. 0.99
00:10:29.860 So I just kind of followed it for like, for like an hour, just started driving around Phoenix.
00:10:34.680 Just to see what the Waymo would do.
00:10:37.480 Um, so I, I was monitoring the situation and this, and it drove kind of like, I would describe it to like a little old lady, like following a little old lady around town.
00:10:48.700 And, you know, very timid, very, you know, stops for everything drive, drove very slowly under, you know, under the speed limit in most cases, or like just, you know, kissing the speed limit.
00:10:59.140 And that was in the city.
00:11:01.840 However, there was something interesting that I noticed that outside of the city, because once you get outside of Phoenix, it becomes desert very quickly.
00:11:09.840 That's where it seemed to start to have problems because I guess when you're in the city, all the sensors that are around the, these Waymos and they, you know, they've got sensors and viewers all over the thing.
00:11:22.100 So it doesn't have blind spots the way that a human would, but it requires that sensory input is just sort of my view on it.
00:11:29.380 And so it requires all that constant sensory input, but once you leave the city and you're surrounded by desert, you don't have any sensory input.
00:11:36.860 And especially at night, you're losing a lot of that.
00:11:39.380 And I'm sure it has some kind of a night vision capability, but the, the thing that I noticed is that it would bang U-turns like right in the middle of the road and, you know, not even at an intersection and kind of almost like I had to slam on the brakes because I guess it got some pickup requests immediately.
00:11:56.380 And this is a couple of years ago and may have gotten better, but I noticed that it became a little more erratic outside the city.
00:12:03.240 So my brother, I do have to disclose.
00:12:05.300 My brother is the chief safety officer of Waymo, Marty's opinion.
00:12:09.320 Well, tell him my findings.
00:12:11.440 There you go.
00:12:12.340 And I'll, I'll, I'll let him know your findings, but it's improved.
00:12:15.740 So anything safety wise for Waymo is run by him.
00:12:19.460 So I do believe in him quite a lot.
00:12:22.520 He's a, he's PhD in aerospace and all sorts of things.
00:12:26.200 But anyways, so I do have to disclose that, but in regards to how safe it is now, it's improved quite a lot, just like Tesla has.
00:12:35.340 So, but test it out, you know.
00:12:38.420 Marcella is also big on the full self-driving.
00:12:40.940 She's got a Tesla and she's putting it in Mad Max mode.
00:12:43.920 Yeah, no, that was just, that was my view is that inside the city, it's very, very safe.
00:12:49.900 But then, and so if you were just going from point to point in the city, it was like, oh, this is fine.
00:12:53.840 This is totally fine.
00:12:54.820 But then I noticed that outside the city, it got a little, it felt like it was a little looser.
00:12:59.580 Right.
00:13:00.040 Like all of us, we get on an open road.
00:13:02.140 Yeah.
00:13:02.260 He would tell you that it's taken time to get to a certain state, which at first they were not on the freeways to get to that level of confidence that they wanted, because they don't want any accidents or anything like that.
00:13:18.740 Mm-hmm.
00:13:19.540 All right.
00:13:19.880 So, Jack, I have a quick question.
00:13:22.080 I've never heard of anyone, you know, having a big problem with them, because I imagine if you did, that, you know, it'd be all over the news.
00:13:27.700 Yeah.
00:13:28.960 Somebody said, I live in the future.
00:13:30.460 I'm like, yes.
00:13:31.160 You are.
00:13:32.500 You're our future gal, for sure.
00:13:34.640 And I want to go back to the 80s, but whatever.
00:13:39.140 So can I pivot for a second?
00:13:41.440 Because I do want to get your take, Jack, on what's been happening in New York City with Mom Domi, with these protests, with these bombs, and, you know, all of it.
00:13:55.220 And, you know, so I used to go to the city all the time.
00:13:57.660 It's not far from me.
00:13:58.760 And I stopped going in a long time ago.
00:14:01.660 And now it's just eroded so much more.
00:14:05.500 I don't feel like it's safe.
00:14:07.320 I don't know if you have any insight or any kind of news update you could give us on what's happening there.
00:14:14.240 Well, what's been horrifying, at least to me, is hearing, you know, this story, because, like I said, I'm from the Philadelphia area.
00:14:21.220 And I guess these two, I guess we'll call them ISIS bombers, because that's what they were, right? 0.71
00:14:27.800 They were ISIS bombers and teenagers from not New York themselves, but they conducted this attempted bombing in New York outside Gracie Mansion.
00:14:36.460 Clearly, Gracie Mansion is under some kind of targeting right now, whether that's because people don't like Mondami or because they view him as a supporting the war on Iran or something like that.
00:14:48.040 I'm not exactly sure.
00:14:49.160 But it's become this focal point for a lot of things that are going on.
00:15:25.000 If I talk about the square footage of the houses and I talk about the, you know, the, the idyllic scenery, it doesn't quite get there.
00:15:33.680 And I said, you know what, this is like saying that there's an ISIS cell in Gilmore Girls.
00:15:38.180 And, you know, you've got to pick something that's sort of a, you know, a target where people know that, okay, this is a suburban area, it's a women's show. 1.00
00:15:47.520 It's something that just was so jarring that you can't, you know, you almost don't want to be able to accept it that triggers that sort of cognitive dissonance.
00:15:55.140 And that's exactly what it's like.
00:15:56.920 So everyone in my family, you know, group chat is sharing all these, you know, updates and images and there was, I guess they had a storage facility and the storage facility had some bombs in it or explosive material that the SWAT team and the bomb squad were going in and, and imploding, you know, to safely detonate.
00:16:18.380 And it's just something that it seems unbelievable because again, you're talking about an area that's basically like the town in Gilmore Girls where like, you know, you, you would go, you know, we're not from there.
00:16:30.540 You know, my family was from, I guess, the other side of the tracks from, from Newtown, but yeah, we did, we, we, we ended up okay.
00:16:37.500 And because we listened to Scott.
00:16:39.420 That's right.
00:16:39.960 And the, the truth of the matter is though, is that because, you know, we've had so many of these migrants from, I guess these, uh, one family is from Afghanistan.
00:16:50.980 The other family is from Turkey that you just have this element that's come in to places like that, that are now willing to pledge allegiance to ISIS, even though they grew up in just in one of the best places in the entire country.
00:17:05.140 Oh yeah.
00:17:05.480 It's horrifying.
00:17:06.860 Um, oh, and did you want to jump on that story at all?
00:17:09.160 Well, I mean, I think it is scary that, you know, these things could be anywhere and places like Newtown probably don't have the same kind of law enforcement or capability to deal with things like that, where they would be able to detect these things.
00:17:22.300 Not that it would necessarily be easy anywhere, but, um, you know, it is kind of scary that these, I don't know if you want to call them sleeper cells, but like, you know, potential sleeper cells could be just anywhere in the country and you just never know where they're going to pop up.
00:17:35.560 And then we had the other story recently with Toronto, um, I think the U S embassy got shot at and early in the morning, and unfortunately nobody was hurt, but they're starting to suspect that might be some kind of sleeper cell activity there too.
00:17:48.100 Um, so it seems like it may be spreading.
00:17:51.080 I think it is.
00:17:51.780 I feel like, I feel like I'd love to hear Scott's analysis of the phrase sleeper cell, right?
00:17:58.500 You know, cause it's, it's like, is that the, really the best name for it?
00:18:01.420 A sleeper cell?
00:18:02.560 Are they sleeping all this time or are they planning?
00:18:05.260 They're much more of a, they're much more awake than, than asleep.
00:18:08.820 They're lying in wait.
00:18:10.980 I mean, on the one hand, I'm kind of surprised we haven't seen more of it because if there's any time where these sleeper cells would come awake and do what they're supposed to do now seems like it would be the time.
00:18:20.920 And you would almost seem like it would almost seem like you would be seeing it all over the place right now.
00:18:25.980 Um, and so I, you know, on one hand, I'm kind of happy that, you know, maybe that means the FBI really has a lot of, a good handle on things and they've already taken care of a lot of the threats and that they're able to prevent some of these things.
00:18:39.540 But, um, you know, I'm still waiting to see what, what comes next.
00:18:43.560 Cause it just seems like the, the conflict is still going on.
00:18:47.960 And, um, I, I have to imagine some of these people are still out there, you know?
00:18:53.460 Wasn't there a recent news story about Iran trying to, um, talk to sleeper cells with, uh, the transponders, radio transponders?
00:19:04.020 Yeah.
00:19:04.520 It's like a shortwave radio signal that they detected.
00:19:08.920 And I don't know if they know what it is or if it is some kind of activation cell, but that was the speculation was that this shortwave radio, like mathematical code or something was potentially some kind of activation signal.
00:19:21.660 That was, uh, that was, I'm just trying to put my Scott Adams hat on here.
00:19:26.280 I think that's one of those stories that he would say, I'm going to put low confidence on that.
00:19:29.900 It seems a little, because it seems too on the nose.
00:19:33.000 It's one of those things that just seems too on.
00:19:35.360 You know what I mean?
00:19:36.120 I don't know.
00:19:36.740 It just, it's whenever I see these stories, I always kind of like in the back of my head, just even when I'm, you know, prepping for my shows or if I'm doing hits on, on, you know, another network, I think, you know, I think, what would Scott say about this?
00:19:49.360 And it's, it's like, I can't turn it off because he's just would do this every day.
00:19:53.480 So you're going through something.
00:19:54.800 You say, nope, two on the nose.
00:19:56.780 Yeah.
00:19:58.080 I mean, I would tend to think you don't need a signal, right?
00:20:00.500 Like everybody knows what's going on there.
00:20:04.520 They know, you know, go, go do stuff, create mayhem, create chaos.
00:20:08.760 And in fact, one of the things that we saw after, you know, we haven't gotten the, you know, in the story yet, but they were saying that because the leadership in Iran was decapitated and lost their communications ability, that they had this plan on the books where the local commanders would, of the IRGC and these militias would just take, would just take charge themselves.
00:20:31.020 And so they were conducting attacks and they hit this Azerbaijani pipeline that I guess fueled Israel and the oil was being used for the IDF.
00:20:39.960 And so, and then, you know, the president later came out, president of Iran later came out and said, hey, that wasn't approved by, by us.
00:20:46.580 That was something that the local commander did.
00:20:48.260 But, you know, the point being is that he didn't need to be told to do that.
00:20:51.200 He just, he just went and did it because you sort of, you know what you have to do.
00:20:53.900 That's, that's kind of the whole point of having a sleeper cell.
00:20:56.280 Well, I, I want to say, speaking of Iran, we might as well get into Iran.
00:21:03.700 Um, everyone's favorite subject, not so, okay, Jack, I need your help because I like many people that watch Scott's, um, Scott Adams school.
00:21:17.000 So I really ride the fence on everything I'm hearing about this war.
00:21:23.820 So, you know, first I want to say, I want us to win it no matter what we're in it.
00:21:30.740 I love our military.
00:21:32.140 I love our country.
00:21:33.460 I want only the best outcome.
00:21:35.640 I want people to be safe.
00:21:37.460 We've already lost service members.
00:21:39.340 Many are injured.
00:21:40.940 Um, that's first and foremost, but.
00:21:45.880 I.
00:21:47.160 I'm very upset hearing about, obviously about this school that was hit with these young girls.
00:21:54.060 Um, it doesn't matter who hit it.
00:21:56.060 I'm upset about it.
00:21:57.500 Um, the other night, everybody said, you know, oh, Trump just made a speech.
00:22:02.080 It's going to make you feel better.
00:22:03.440 It'll reassure you.
00:22:04.620 It didn't.
00:22:05.540 Um, and a lot of the other, of the other friends on here are also feeling like, you know, they're
00:22:12.200 MAGA supporters.
00:22:13.780 They are absolutely his base.
00:22:16.020 They are extremely turned off right now.
00:22:18.760 They're not trusting in Trump and they're pivoting away.
00:22:23.660 Not that like you'd maybe vote for a Democrat, but they are very unhappy.
00:22:28.960 Um, and I really feel like this is yet another thing that's splitting apart the base.
00:22:34.720 And, you know, besides all the other BS that's been happening, but it's another thing splitting
00:22:40.840 apart the base.
00:22:41.980 I have not seen you be in favor of, you know, I don't see you going hard in one direction
00:22:47.880 either.
00:22:48.200 I mean, I, I feel like you're fairly measured on this whole thing also, but what can you
00:22:53.320 say to us?
00:22:54.400 Because, you know, maybe help me understand, like if you were going to try to talk to me,
00:22:59.340 I'm so unhappy about it.
00:23:01.940 And I don't feel like I recognize this president Trump.
00:23:05.480 He's unrecognizable to me.
00:23:06.980 I don't feel like the things that he campaigned on or the things that I really thought were
00:23:10.920 in his core are what he's doing now.
00:23:13.280 I feel like there's too many Lindsey Graham's in his ear or Sean Hannity's in his ear or
00:23:20.720 Netanyahu in his ear.
00:23:23.380 You know, I'm just like, is this, you know, is this worth it for America?
00:23:27.440 How far does it go?
00:23:29.180 And I'm very jaded by the whole Iraq war, even though history doesn't repeat, but like, 0.93
00:23:33.560 what are we doing?
00:23:34.760 Tell me, tell me your thoughts.
00:23:36.260 So other people that feel like me can understand.
00:23:39.420 Yeah, no, sure.
00:23:39.880 And I totally, I totally agree with where you're coming from.
00:23:44.100 I totally understand where you're coming from.
00:23:45.840 I hear it all the time as well.
00:23:48.340 We do.
00:23:49.080 So when on my show, we're doing emails every day, almost we're, and we're listening to
00:23:53.800 all sides.
00:23:54.280 We're trying to get people in who are totally supportive and want the maximalist.
00:23:58.960 Hey, we want regime change.
00:24:00.380 We want full on freedom for the Persian people.
00:24:03.060 And then other people who come in and, you know, remind us of, and I've tweeted out some
00:24:08.960 of these old clips of Charlie Kirk from last, I guess, June it was when this, you know, the
00:24:15.000 last Iran strike came up and Charlie and myself, by the way, at the time were very much out
00:24:22.740 there publicly saying that a long scale regime change war, long scale regime change war is not going
00:24:30.480 to be in America's interests.
00:24:33.180 However, when president Trump went in and made it about the nuclear program, made it about striking
00:24:37.780 the nuclear sites in and out, it was, I mean, it was really one strike because Israel had already 0.91
00:24:41.840 conducted the ground war or excuse me, the air war prior to that and had ceded the ground is what
00:24:46.560 I'm trying to say prior to those, those strikes operation, midnight hammer, it was in and out.
00:24:51.420 It was one and done and it was over.
00:24:54.080 And president Trump himself has come out and said short-term engagement.
00:24:57.980 He's, uh, what did he call it?
00:24:58.960 A, uh, short-term excursion excursion.
00:25:02.220 Thank you.
00:25:03.440 Excursion.
00:25:03.960 That would, I'd love to hear Scott's analysis on the word excursion, but we're, we're, he's
00:25:08.660 sort of acknowledging, I think this, this sentiment and he's acknowledging that this is, you know,
00:25:13.840 he's, you know, what's an excursion, right?
00:25:15.520 An excursion is a departure from the norm.
00:25:17.560 And he's, he's acknowledging that it's a departure from the norm and acknowledging that he wants it to be short-term
00:25:23.260 and says that he could go longer.
00:25:25.320 It, it hasn't even been two weeks yet.
00:25:27.200 I'm, I'm reading the chat.
00:25:28.740 And, uh, so February, um, you know, February 28th, last day of February is when it started
00:25:34.840 and then comes up further to, so it's been two weeks now and the U S has been conducting these attacks.
00:25:41.360 And I suppose the, the maximalist argument that you could make when I say maximalist, I mean, if you're,
00:25:46.320 if you're super pro war, the, the, probably the best argument for that is that Iran actually is weak
00:25:52.020 right now.
00:25:52.620 And this would, and, and if Scott were here to give the argument on that, he would say, well, this,
00:25:58.720 if you were ever going to do it, this would be the time.
00:26:00.860 If you were ever going to do it, if you were ever going to hit them, you would wait.
00:26:04.240 And as their proxies have been decimated in, in terms of Southern Lebanon and Hezbollah,
00:26:10.300 uh, Hamas has been reduced by far because of the war in Gaza.
00:26:15.620 And now there's a ceasefire there, but their ability to strike back has been completely
00:26:20.220 minimized to the point where they haven't even really been able to do anything to Israel's 0.71
00:26:24.140 in the last two weeks.
00:26:26.060 And that if you were ever going to, to strike, you would also do it at a time when who's Iran's 0.99
00:26:32.500 biggest military partner is Russia.
00:26:34.540 And what's Russia up to right now?
00:26:36.140 Well, they're totally bogged down in, uh, in, uh, Ukraine.
00:26:39.420 So if you're looking at all these, all these pieces, you would say, this is the best possible
00:26:44.680 time we're ever going to have.
00:26:45.780 We're not going to have a better possible chance to do this and see what happens.
00:26:49.660 And what did, what did Scott always say that Trump likes to do?
00:26:53.780 He would say that Trump likes to shake the box, remember shake the box.
00:26:58.120 And it was, we're going to shake the box and see what happens.
00:27:01.920 And he's done that very successfully in a couple of times with the military.
00:27:07.060 So Operation Midnight Hammer shook the box in and out, was able to hit the nuclear, um,
00:27:12.760 was able to hit the nuclear sites done.
00:27:14.500 Then what was the next one?
00:27:15.960 Venezuela shook the box.
00:27:18.440 And what happened?
00:27:19.840 Maduro was gone.
00:27:20.600 He got a great outcome out of that with the, uh, Delce Rodriguez coming up as the new leader.
00:27:26.360 And I remember one of the, one of the last things I ever actually said to Scott, one of
00:27:31.640 the last conversations we had was this conversation about, uh, it wasn't on, on the show, but just,
00:27:37.480 just over text.
00:27:39.060 And I had tweeted this as well.
00:27:41.240 So it's not like a private thing, but, um, that I said, you know, is it really regime change
00:27:47.040 if you only take out one guy?
00:27:48.660 Right.
00:27:50.060 Because the regime, so it's sort of like a CEO, a new CEO move that Scott used to talk
00:27:54.720 about where the regime and the leadership and the government are largely still in place.
00:28:01.100 The infrastructure of that are still in place.
00:28:02.840 But at the same time, you, you don't get into the Iraq, uh, problem, the quagmire, the civil 0.79
00:28:10.440 war, the expansive war, which engulfs the entire region, engulfs the Gulf, if you will.
00:28:16.380 And that was obviously a very positive outcome for the United States.
00:28:21.000 So the idea here would be that Trump is trying to shake the box again when it comes to Iran
00:28:27.440 and seeing if he can get that same type of outcome.
00:28:30.700 Now, two weeks in, we have not gotten that same type of outcome as Venezuela because
00:28:36.820 Iran, of course, is a very, very different, just, it's just a different beast. 1.00
00:28:41.200 It's a totally different beast.
00:28:42.240 It's a revolutionary country.
00:28:43.600 It's a country that has a lot of depth in terms of extra molas and extra, apparently
00:28:49.480 they've, uh, um, I mean, I keep trying to think of what Scott would say.
00:28:53.500 Oh, it turns out they had an extra Khomeini too. 0.96
00:28:56.040 So they've got a, you know, they've got a extra Khomeini just sitting there on the
00:29:00.620 bench.
00:29:00.860 So we, we've regime changed Khomeini for Khomeini and how much of a trade is that anyway?
00:29:07.360 Because the father of course was almost 90 years old.
00:29:10.820 And so you figure that the son was probably more involved with the day-to-day operations
00:29:16.220 than the dad was because of his age.
00:29:18.800 And actually not too dissimilar from the situation in Saudi Arabia, where the, uh, the crown
00:29:24.300 prince is, uh, you know, has, uh, MBS has pretty much been running the place for almost
00:29:29.420 the last 10 years while his father, King Salman is, you know, not again, really involved in
00:29:34.400 the day-to-day operations.
00:29:36.240 Um, and so.
00:29:37.120 What do you think, what do you think about with Saba Khomeini?
00:29:39.200 I, you know, I've, I've heard that, um, he was potentially wounded in one of the attacks.
00:29:45.820 He didn't show up to his own succession rally recently.
00:29:48.760 So that could either mean that he's still wounded or that he's just, you know, trying
00:29:53.380 to stay safe in a bunker somewhere.
00:29:54.860 You know, I was, I was thinking about this before I came on because I knew I would be coming
00:29:58.140 on the Scott Adams, um, school today.
00:30:01.460 And I would say, I think, I think I would, I would have to rate his persuasion skills as
00:30:06.260 quite low because if you don't show up to your own, your own succession, uh, uh, ceremony,
00:30:14.360 then have you really succeeded?
00:30:16.000 Have you really taken over if you don't even show up to your own inauguration?
00:30:20.960 And so I, I probably the persuasion, persuasion skills, at least in terms of the international
00:30:26.300 audience would be quite low.
00:30:27.540 That being said, you know, he doesn't need to persuade the international audience.
00:30:32.400 He only needs to persuade the people of Iran.
00:30:35.000 And one thing that I have noted on a couple of my own media appearances is that we just,
00:30:40.000 we, and people, the Persian people coming out and protesting and taking over and, and trying 0.66
00:30:47.860 to overthrow the regime like we saw in, in, uh, I guess it was December, January, or, you
00:30:55.080 know, Tiananmen Square, 1989, China kind of situation from Beijing.
00:30:59.920 So we just haven't seen that.
00:31:01.420 And of course they have a lot of reasons to not do it.
00:31:03.720 30,000 reasons potentially to not do that because the IRGC was extremely brutal in their
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00:31:36.120 Jack's got a little glitch.
00:31:46.740 He's a little glitchy.
00:31:48.160 Am I glitching?
00:31:48.840 What am I, what's glitching?
00:31:49.940 You're freezing a little bit and cutting out, but that's okay.
00:31:53.400 You're back.
00:31:54.580 You're back.
00:31:55.200 So the, the, the propaganda that I've been reading about Masaba, and again, this is everything
00:32:01.360 about this is propaganda on both sides, but, um, apparently he's, he was treated for impotence
00:32:06.340 in the UK at some point and was unable to get a wife because of that.
00:32:10.480 And the opposition, the opposition just came out in the story I saw today saying that he
00:32:16.740 has the charisma of a boiled potato.
00:32:18.620 I thought that was great persuasion.
00:32:21.180 It's good persuasion, but at the same time, it reminds me of, cause you see this in the
00:32:26.780 UK tabloids like daily mail.
00:32:28.680 And it, it, the problem is it reminds me of all the times they told me that Putin had died
00:32:33.900 over the last four years that, you know, Putin's got cancer and Putin's dying and he's got a,
00:32:39.080 you know, a stunt double that's actually going up there for him.
00:32:43.380 And, you know, and what do we hear that Trump was just on the phone with Putin the other
00:32:46.560 day.
00:32:46.880 And, um, so I, I, it's in terms of, of attempted persuasion, the attempt is good, but I, I think
00:32:55.600 the, the worry is that the British have tried this so many times with the Russians already
00:32:59.500 that, uh, that it isn't quite as effective because you can only do, you can only use that
00:33:04.920 so many times if you don't actually have anything to respond to, but it could be true, which is
00:33:08.980 also funny.
00:33:09.480 So apparently the UK is the place to go if you're suffering from erectile dysfunction.
00:33:15.340 That's what I've heard.
00:33:17.060 Um, and the other thing I wouldn't know, I know, no one would accuse you of that for
00:33:24.060 sure.
00:33:24.320 Um, but Jack, I want to go back to one thing, cause this is what I keep, I keep asking and
00:33:31.000 I see other people saying it.
00:33:32.320 So when we did, uh, midnight hammer and we went in and hit the nuclear facility, then
00:33:40.400 why wasn't that enough?
00:33:41.540 Right.
00:33:43.540 So, I mean, again, this is something that the administration has, has to be able to answer
00:33:49.460 and their messaging on this has been, and it's been mixed.
00:33:53.220 It's certainly been mixed to say, because you have some people saying, well, this is all
00:33:57.260 about, you know, and by the way, Pete Hegseth came out and secretary Hegseth said that this
00:34:01.540 isn't about regime change, that it's all about missiles and drones and the Navy and hitting
00:34:07.220 those sites, but then you have Wyckoff and Kushner coming out and saying that, well, we think
00:34:12.140 that their research reactor could have been used to stockpile enriched uranium.
00:34:18.040 Then there's another story.
00:34:19.040 And I think, uh, I want to see Elon posted it this morning or, or, you know, I saw it
00:34:22.840 going around where they were saying that it looked like Iran was digging up the uranium
00:34:28.020 from those sites.
00:34:29.400 Because apparently in those hits from operation midnight hammer, the uranium was so deep in
00:34:35.480 these underground bunkers that even though the entrances to the bunkers were destroyed
00:34:39.840 with this, um, with the reinforced concrete and everything that they had built, that the
00:34:44.600 uranium is actually still underneath all of the rubble that is deep down.
00:34:49.740 And so it's something where, you know, people would love to see that, um, you know, that
00:34:55.080 direct explanation coming out, I tend to think that the explanation is more that, you know,
00:35:00.680 has to do with the weakness of Iran right now and the ability, uh, the opportunity rather
00:35:06.720 than, uh, rather than that.
00:35:08.540 And, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm not saying that these, that the threats aren't there.
00:35:13.100 Certainly there were threats, but I think, I think you also have to put in the opportunity
00:35:17.800 at the same time because the opportunity was there.
00:35:21.680 So when it comes to the threats, like the white house has been very clear that they
00:35:24.920 say that this was a, that Iran was threatening the United States.
00:35:28.760 It was their view that it was, that they were threatening the United States president and
00:35:31.760 the president himself has said, he believed that Iran was about to attack the United States.
00:35:36.520 And he's, he's certainly stated that publicly.
00:35:39.720 So, um, you know, and, and of course, Marco Rubio had his, his moment where he said that,
00:35:44.920 that actually Israel did it and, you know, what did he say?
00:35:48.160 Israel is going to attack Iran and therefore we have to attack at the same time because Iran 1.00
00:35:53.880 would, uh, you know, would respond and hit the U S forces that had already been amassed
00:35:58.840 in terms of the two aircraft carriers that they had sent over as well as the U S bases
00:36:03.340 in the region.
00:36:04.340 But of course, you know, that's kind of a circular argument because they wouldn't be able to respond
00:36:08.760 if you hadn't redeployed all the aircraft carriers.
00:36:10.720 So how would you rate the persuasion on our side and on the Iranian side?
00:36:16.720 Um, I would say that we haven't seen the best game from either side at this point that while the
00:36:24.720 U S has had mixed persuasion in terms of this, because it's, it's just true that the message,
00:36:29.520 there have been different messages that have been sent out, but on the Iranian side, they keep trying 0.79
00:36:34.720 to do this, you know, we're responding and we will have the furious response and the epic promise
00:36:42.000 we'll respond. But at the same time, what do you see you, or what do you not see? You don't see
00:36:47.360 the leader coming out, the new leader and taking the podium and you know, and we all know why we all
00:36:54.800 know why he's not going out there, right? We don't need to answer it. We don't even need to ask that
00:36:59.120 question because we all know why. And then, uh, the, the responses to their attacks. I mean,
00:37:07.920 okay. You know, throw a couple of drones at the Dubai airport, you throw a couple of things at
00:37:12.880 Qatar, they hit, I guess, three ships going or that were on their way through the Strait of Hormuz
00:37:17.600 that we're going to try to shoot the straight. And we've got this whole, uh, tension about the
00:37:21.520 Strait of Hormuz and the, which I, you know, I can explain from a Navy perspective, but you know,
00:37:25.920 it really comes down to the Strait of Hormuz. The whole thing comes down to this,
00:37:28.400 where if you have a $200 million cargo, because that's how big these super tankers are, uh, in
00:37:35.360 terms of the oil and the oil prices being the way they are, are you really going to take the
00:37:39.040 chance that that Strait is not mined? Are you really going to be willing to, with your $200
00:37:43.600 million cargo and say, Hmm, I'm going to take that gamble. No, you're not. Of course nobody is.
00:37:49.200 And that's, that's the biggest persuasion play, but in terms of their persuasion of we're the,
00:37:55.440 you know, we are the victim and they are the, you know, you know, they're, but you know,
00:38:00.880 we're also fighting back hard. I don't know. And then Israel of course is using as always,
00:38:05.760 uh, the David versus Goliath paradigm. And, you know, Israel always, you know, goes this way and 0.88
00:38:11.040 say, you know, we are the smaller country. They are the bigger country. We have the technological
00:38:14.880 advantage, which of course, David had a technological advantage over Goliath, but at the same time,
00:38:20.160 they are so much larger than us and we are under attack and we have to be able to survive. So
00:38:23.760 that's, that's Israel. And what, what, what is that? Right. That's the high ground play. The high
00:38:28.080 ground play is always that this is existential for us rather than anyone else. And it is existential
00:38:34.160 for Israel, but it's not existential for the United States. And that's why you see the polling for this,
00:38:39.840 where it is in the U S yeah. So what, Oh, go ahead. Well, did like, do you see a path to a great
00:38:47.360 outcome for Trump and for the United States in the midterm? Is there a way it could go that would
00:38:52.400 be like a really great victory? Well, I'll say this, you know, there's, there's a lot of people
00:38:57.040 pointing out all the ways that it could go wrong. And certainly there's lots of ways it could go wrong.
00:39:00.720 Obviously there's no, there's no question about that, but there are also ways that it could go right.
00:39:06.640 Right. And I, I would just caution anyone who's, you know, dooming and blackpilling as, 0.78
00:39:13.440 as the kids say, uh, to, you know, to, you know, take a pause for a second and say, well,
00:39:19.520 guys, Venezuela turned out pretty well for the president. And it was seen as so successful that
00:39:26.240 he brought it up at the state of the union. He had the medal of honor ceremony. He, you know, he had,
00:39:31.440 uh, you know, he had a huge, absolutely, you know, really, absolutely, uh, successful moment
00:39:39.200 there. And he was given that success. And so the American people do love success and they do love
00:39:44.720 a win as, as anyone does in, uh, you know, in, in, in terms of victory. So the question is,
00:39:50.960 when can we get that victory? Does it drag on? And, and the white house understands this,
00:39:56.160 the white house absolutely understands that America doesn't, you know, doesn't want another
00:40:00.720 Iraq or Afghanistan. They don't want to see troops on the ground. President Trump has said,
00:40:04.960 you know, and here's, by the way, I can actually explain, this is something that a lot of people
00:40:11.280 misunderstand. I think that, and I think because of hearing Scott is describe it so many times,
00:40:18.320 I feel like I understand Trump's move here better because people will say, well, Trump must be for
00:40:23.680 boots on the ground because every time he's asked, he says we might do it. Right. And
00:40:31.360 the question is, does he actually mean that he's for it? Or is it because he wants to keep
00:40:37.280 the threat of boots on the ground open as a potential option? Because the minute that he says,
00:40:44.400 we're not going to put boots on the ground, then suddenly you say, oh, well, I'm not going to have
00:40:49.440 boots on the ground anymore. So I don't need to worry about it. So you're losing in terms of
00:40:53.280 persuasion there. So this is a persuasion play by Trump to be able to say, we could put boots on the
00:40:58.640 ground, we could have a draft, we could do this, we could do that. And that isn't now obviously it
00:41:03.520 doesn't play well with the domestic audience because nobody wants to hear that. And then you have
00:41:07.600 Lindsey Graham, which I will say though, I do think that Lindsey Graham has is people say that
00:41:14.880 Lindsey Graham is a divisive figure, but I disagree that Lindsey Graham is actually a uniter. I mean,
00:41:20.400 you look at what he said about the people of South Carolina, that the boys and girls of South Carolina
00:41:26.480 should go over to the Middle East and fight. And what Lindsey Graham is doing is uniting the American 1.00
00:41:31.360 people against Lindsey Graham. Because Lindsey Graham is an and I'll use a little of what I said
00:41:38.240 yesterday on TV that Lindsey Graham is jester gooning for war. And he doesn't actually care 0.93
00:41:42.960 where the war is, it could be a war in the Middle East, it could be a war in Europe, it could be a war
00:41:48.160 in Eurasia, it could be war in Latin America, but Lindsey doesn't care because Lindsey Graham is just 1.00
00:41:53.600 going to jester goon for it. And that is his job. And he'll even he'll he starts jester gooning for the
00:41:58.800 next war before we've even finished the last war. Yeah, he's saying we're still going on.
00:42:03.280 Iran just got started. He and now he's talking about Cuba. He doesn't even mind. 0.98
00:42:07.440 I know right to Cuba. But I just like you have to finish your proxy war before you have your next one.
00:42:13.280 It's like dealing with children. What's next? What's next? So all right. So a couple of things.
00:42:18.000 I think that the persuasion based on this conversation, yes, always keep your options open.
00:42:24.320 You know, that was like when Biden's like, oh, well, if we do anything, it'll be very small,
00:42:29.360 like a very small little attack. I think he was talking about Afghanistan or wherever it was.
00:42:34.160 But I was just like, oh, you idiot. But I think the two forms of persuasion. So one on our end, 1.00
00:42:41.360 yes, it would be like, you know, we'll hit you 25 times harder. You know, boots on the ground is an
00:42:47.040 option, you know, and that he's he's saying for Iran. It's nothing to do with us like wanting to
00:42:53.680 hear that that's for the benefit of Iran to be worried. But then I was thinking all about it this 0.92
00:42:59.040 morning, like you were saying, with the ships having to come through, I'm not sending my ship
00:43:04.240 through. Like, I don't know if there's a mine, you know, that's going to blow it up. And I don't know.
00:43:08.960 I don't literally don't know how our Navy protects them from that because you're like a sitting duck
00:43:15.600 on a ship. So I think that the thought of the mines, the underwater mines is very persuasive.
00:43:23.760 And that's a huge persuasion play, too, because that's the whole idea. You don't know where the
00:43:28.560 mines are and can you find them? And of course, we have technology, we have sonar and we have EOD,
00:43:34.960 you know, Navy techs and we have, you know, little remote controlled robots that can go and check for
00:43:41.360 it. But at the end of the day, you know, do you trust it? Do you trust all of it? And everybody's
00:43:46.560 waiting to see if anyone will actually go, you know, who's gets it's this it's this great question.
00:43:51.760 Who's going first? Who's going? My other question is, did we supply the weapons to Israel for this war?
00:44:00.800 I mean, in general, yes. I mean, the US is the largest supplier of of military hardware to Israel.
00:44:11.360 Israel also has a has their own domestic war military industrial complex. And so, you know,
00:44:19.680 they certainly have, you know, have their own domestic supply. But when it comes to the air
00:44:23.920 interceptors, when it comes to Iron Dome, when it comes to fighters, this type of thing that those are
00:44:29.280 predominantly US supplied. Not for free. I mean, they paid for it.
00:44:33.920 No, not for free. No, not for free. But but they're, yeah, they're purchased from the US.
00:44:37.760 And so but does that that I'm assuming then that that takes away from like our own inventory slash
00:44:44.960 stockpile?
00:44:48.400 This, of course, is Iran's great strategy of a war of attrition. And they think that they can beat 1.00
00:44:54.960 the US with a war of attrition and go in and say, well, every time you fire a missile interceptor,
00:45:03.200 you know, you've got to spend, you know, a couple of million dollars to be able to do that,
00:45:07.840 a couple of million dollars to be able to backfill it. Every time you fire a Tomahawk missile,
00:45:11.600 you're spending millions of dollars. But if Iran sending in a twenty five thousand dollar drone or
00:45:17.040 a thirty five thousand dollar drone that they can mass produce the Shahad drones and Russia uses 0.90
00:45:22.640 them called Garans. And by the way, the US is now using them, too. We call them the Lucas drones,
00:45:27.200 but it's all it's all kind of the same idea there. They're actually nicknamed the Dorito because they
00:45:33.040 sort of have that triangle triangle shape like a Dorito from the Ukraine war. And then their kamikaze
00:45:38.240 drones that just fly in and blow stuff up. And point being is, is that if you've got a lot of those,
00:45:43.920 you can saturate air defenses and you don't need to get all of them through, but you just need to
00:45:48.800 get a couple through. And so it's a favorable cost analysis for Iran and Iran's proxies in Iraq and
00:45:56.800 other spots because they're able to keep your air defense and all of the air defense in the region.
00:46:02.400 So the Gulf allies, Qatar, Dubai, UAE, Saudi to be able to and Kuwait, you know, to be busy while
00:46:10.640 they're doing that. It also, by the way, it also makes you have to fix your, you know,
00:46:16.960 it happens to happen. You have to fix your air defense in one spot. So anytime that air defense,
00:46:21.920 which is limited, is fixed in one spot, because that's what Iran's doing. It's trying, it's a sort 1.00
00:46:26.800 of a, you know, forcing you into prevent defense. If you're talking about, you know, like a, like a
00:46:31.040 basketball game where you have to be able to defend in every zone at the same time, because you never
00:46:37.440 know where the Iran strike is going to come next. And this is why, by the way, the US is talking
00:46:42.640 about pulling some of the air defense out of South Korea, because these systems, which are already
00:46:48.080 in place, because we just don't have that many of them. So, you know, it's, it's sort of a question
00:46:53.440 of if we're not going to put boots on the ground, if we're not going to have these special operations
00:46:59.360 missions, which, you know, certainly still, I wouldn't put it past Trump to launch a special
00:47:03.840 operations mission, obviously, high risk, you know, high risk, high reward. That's what we've
00:47:08.240 seen with President Trump in the past willingness to do this. But again, you know, if you're talking
00:47:13.600 about an air war, the question is, you know, who's going to run out of arrows first, and whose arrows
00:47:19.200 are more, more expensive? Yeah. Marcella, did you want to jump in at all? Well, I figured out the war.
00:47:26.000 No, I figured out the way that the filter that Scott would have on Trump is Trump is running this
00:47:42.000 war, like a CEO would run it. A lot of confusion came from yesterday and the day before where
00:47:48.800 we have Secretary Hicks said, we have Trump, President Trump speaking. And he was like,
00:47:56.320 yeah, we're, we're done. We're done. We're like, it's going to be short, we're going to get out of
00:48:01.520 there. But at the same time, Secretary Hicks said, yesterday was like, today will be the hardest hit
00:48:09.680 day for Iran, sort of like, well, we're not done. The way I see it is that Trump is, is acting under the
00:48:17.680 filter of a CEO, where you're setting up your deadlines, with giving them high deadlines, like,
00:48:25.440 like, Elon would say, we're building this in 10 days, and then everybody hurries to do it in 10 days,
00:48:32.480 but obviously, it can't be met. So I see that the dilemma in people is that they don't understand
00:48:39.360 Trump, they're like, he's, he's ending the war, but he's, he but then he's not ending the war. So one,
00:48:48.160 one thing that I would say is, look at him as the CEO, this is not Afghanistan, this is not Iraq. 0.57
00:48:55.360 One of the main things that I have to highlight is that the war has been fought very well. The
00:49:02.000 our militaries, technologically, are so advanced compared to in the past, even then it was advanced,
00:49:09.920 but now it was, it plummeted everything. And I think I find it interesting that, that the, and,
00:49:21.200 and, and Jack talked about it just now about how you don't, you don't limit yourself, you don't say,
00:49:27.520 oh, we're not going to put boots on the ground, because then your enemy knows, okay, there's not
00:49:32.640 going to be anybody on the ground. So the fact that Trump is changing, always changing, he is the main
00:49:39.840 thing that keeps our enemies from knowing what is next. And I think that's also important. So he's
00:49:47.840 playing the CEO of like, for the troops, he's playing the CEO mindset of like, let's give them a
00:49:54.160 short deadline. And they'll come through because if you tell us, oh, it's going to take two years,
00:50:00.640 it's going to take two years. Have you ever had that in your life where you're like, oh, I'm going
00:50:05.920 to buy that house in three years. And then it takes longer than three years to do it. But when you give
00:50:11.360 yourself a smaller deadline, you do, you, you try to meet it. But he's got to be done before the
00:50:18.160 midterms. I mean, this is, you know, this is gonna, I cannot think of anything more scary,
00:50:24.800 besides this war of having Democrats return to power. And the independents are so turned off. And
00:50:31.320 the MAGA base is very, it's already, it was already turned on soon. I'll be turned on soon.
00:50:37.520 I don't know. Let me ask, let me ask Jack your opinion on like, if Iran does not surrender in the
00:50:43.140 next several weeks. And if we have to stay there, and this is going on, some people are estimating
00:50:48.520 till September, some people are thinking longer. If the war is still going on, does that, in your
00:50:54.500 mind, mean a complete failure? And is that going to mean a disaster in the midterms?
00:50:59.300 Well, I here, I wanted to sort of answer that question in the context of what Marcel was saying,
00:51:04.020 because, because I do think that's right. I do think this is the CEO move. And I do think that
00:51:08.420 President Trump is using that as his, you know, as leverage, right? He's, he's willing to say,
00:51:16.920 look at me, I will risk the midterms. Look at me, I will risk Congress. Look at me,
00:51:21.260 maybe I am crazy, right? Because it's a negotiating tactic. Because it's a tactic to say that he that
00:51:27.220 he wants Iran to come to back to that negotiating table back to that deal table. And we know that,
00:51:32.880 I think Witkoff had said yesterday that he was, you know, still working on getting in touch with
00:51:37.840 Iran and that Iran does want to talk again. And so you're, you're seeing a lot of this public
00:51:43.260 posturing from both sides, right? Of course. And if the, if the Iranian regime is going to stay in 0.79
00:51:48.000 power, they have to be able to sell a win to their people as well. You know, and they'll certainly
00:51:51.980 say, well, you know, it's a win for us because we, you know, they tried to take us out and they
00:51:55.820 couldn't. And whereas Trump could come out and say, well, we got a great deal with them. This is what
00:52:01.360 we're going to do with nuclear. This is what we're going to do on the Strait of Hormuz. This is what
00:52:04.640 we're going to do in terms of oil and come out with, you know, with, with him being able to say
00:52:10.780 that this was victory. And what I think he's doing again is shaking the box and keeping the box in a
00:52:18.640 shaken, uh, capacity until he gets a favorable outcome that he can bring home and say, look what
00:52:26.300 we did. This was the victory condition for the United States. And that's why he's being even a
00:52:31.620 little nebulous about what exactly that victory condition is because we've seen him do this so
00:52:37.420 many times, right? We've seen him do it. He wrote a whole book about it. The reason he called art of
00:52:42.540 the deal, art of the deal is because it's a reference to Sun Tzu, the art of war, where it
00:52:47.780 is warfare by deception. It is warfare by negotiation and using, uh, trickery and persuasion and all of
00:52:56.000 these things to try to achieve the greatest outcome that you can get without ever revealing what
00:53:01.240 your true, um, what your true goal is. So you might say, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to
00:53:08.240 totally decimate it and I'm going to do all this. And which by the way, he said about North Korea
00:53:12.100 in the past. And then a couple, a couple of weeks after that, or a couple, you know, a couple months
00:53:16.600 after that, I guess he's shaking hands with Kim Jong-un. So you could totally see one of those 0.53
00:53:21.700 situations as well. And, you know, it's, it's not something that we should count out when it comes to
00:53:27.860 Trump, because these are things that we've seen him do when he's in negotiation mode.
00:53:32.980 Right. I, I, I agree with that. I just, you know, I always try to bring it back to the people that
00:53:38.780 really don't follow the news that closely or aren't on X or don't understand, you know,
00:53:45.020 like everybody here, I always say is super smart already because they're, uh, followers of Scott's
00:53:51.440 amazing persuasion and thinking. So we already have a leg up, but, um, okay. And I, you know,
00:53:58.560 what I want to represent Sophia right here. Okay. Because Sophia is a diehard MAGA and I might say
00:54:05.160 was, um, you know, she wrote, it's not okay to get to the golden age by killing the innocent
00:54:11.200 school girls. These things are going to have to be addressed and it's heartbreaking.
00:54:15.780 They were addressed by Trump and he said that it wasn't them. No, he doesn't know, you know,
00:54:20.960 that, that was not an answer that was satisfactory and it's a big deal. It is a big deal. And,
00:54:25.980 you know, if it was a mistake or an error, you have to own it at this point. Um, and also I think
00:54:33.320 Lindsey Graham needs to just shut up and somebody needs to publicly tell him that because it's 1.00
00:54:38.400 disgusting. So a lot of us have war fatigue. We're not into it. Um, you know, he's the peace 0.94
00:54:45.660 president and I get it, Jack. Like I do see the amazing things he's doing like with Venezuela and
00:54:51.120 he wants to do Cuba, but it also turns other people off. Cause they're like, how are we just
00:54:55.580 going in and being like, we're going to take over and we're going to do this. And so a lot of people
00:54:59.760 are not, you know, dug into the details and, um, yeah, the school was hit twice. So a lot of people
00:55:07.120 are not dug into the details. Like maybe the people here are, um, or we could be persuaded or we could
00:55:14.380 understand a little bit deeper. So I am worried about the everyday person who's, you know, going
00:55:21.060 to, um, you know, CBS news or MSNBC or whatever. And they're just hearing some spin. The independents
00:55:31.200 are like really turned off and MAGA is really turned off. So I don't know. I feel like the,
00:55:36.800 the people in MAGA that are more excited are the establishment slash MAGA base, not the
00:55:43.660 America first Patriot base. So that's that my, the messaging, I'm worrying about the messaging
00:55:49.680 and getting real answers, but I understand the game he's playing too. Cause he's talking
00:55:54.460 to Iran. I get it. Like I get that, but the people are not happy. I don't know.
00:56:00.900 Yeah, no. And, and in response to the situation with the girls school, it's, it's really become
00:56:06.740 a persuasion battle. I was talking with this with some friends last night where you go down
00:56:12.120 the rabbit hole on some of these and, and, you know, New York times is out. It's, it was
00:56:16.620 a tomahawk. It's definitely a tomahawk. And then you go to, you know, some of the other,
00:56:21.960 the other side and they'll say, uh, Matt Tardio had a long thread about it saying, well, Iran
00:56:26.000 has, you know, they don't have tomahawks specifically, but they do have one missile that's very similar
00:56:32.520 to a tomahawk. That's, and perhaps from grainy footage, it could look like that. And he gives
00:56:37.980 his reasons for why he thinks it's not a tomahawk. And, um, the one, I think the most
00:56:42.900 persuasive to me on that was that the travel, you know, the flight path would have taken
00:56:48.580 it. If, uh, if it came in on that angle would have taken it over land in Iran, which would
00:56:54.380 have been much harder on the very first day when they still had all of their air defense,
00:56:57.900 it would have been much easier for Iran to be able to shoot down. Then, uh, then the path 0.99
00:57:04.140 would be totally wrong. It would have come, I guess, the other way around if it had hit
00:57:08.300 water. But, and, and I've, I've looked or, you know, come over water. And so I've looked
00:57:12.240 at, at all of that. And it's, it's one of those things where it's, it's almost like Schrodinger's
00:57:16.540 Schrodinger's tomahawk at this point, because both sides are making really, really strong
00:57:22.000 points. And overall, overall, there's no question by the way, that it's, it's horrible. It's one
00:57:29.500 of the most horrible things that I've certainly seen. And this idea that, you know, I think
00:57:35.120 someone said there, the grossest thing I think that I've heard someone say was that perhaps
00:57:39.720 Iran did this themselves. Like, like they would kill a bunch of their own kids to, to do something 1.00
00:57:45.500 like this, where, by the way, you know, in, um, you know, when you look at this, you have 0.55
00:57:51.060 to figure that, well, presumably that if these are the girls of that area and that, that school 0.99
00:57:56.360 is next to the base, then probably a lot of the parents and grandparents who, uh, of
00:58:01.540 those girls live in that area and probably work on the base and are possibly even IRGC 0.99
00:58:07.220 officials or related to the IRGC is the idea that they would go and kill their own children. 0.94
00:58:13.060 It's just, it's, I mean, I think it's silly. I think it's ridiculous. And, uh, what was the 1.00
00:58:17.600 other one that, oh, well, they, and I've seen people saying, well, why did they put their,
00:58:21.180 you know, their school so close to the base? Well, I know another country that put schools
00:58:25.660 very close to bases as well. And a country that even has schools on bases. And that country is
00:58:31.640 called the United States of America, because pretty much, you know, having been in the military,
00:58:36.300 pretty much every base, you know, large base that we have that sustains a large population has
00:58:40.680 elementary schools, has daycare centers, has, um, in some cases, high schools. When I was at Gitmo,
00:58:46.280 we had a high school there. We have other high schools there. I do see someone in the chat saying,
00:58:49.820 why were they in school? And that is actually the answer to this because in, in Iran, uh, Friday is
00:58:56.600 their holy day. And then Saturday is actually their Monday. So that's, that's why they were school
00:59:01.200 in, um, you know, in, uh, on a Saturday and persuasion wise, of course the, yeah. So anyone
00:59:08.540 who's been in the military in the U S knows that our bases have lots of schools on them. That's not
00:59:12.000 actually something that's different for, um, for, for countries to do. It's just, just not a,
00:59:17.840 you know, like a, like a Iran thing. It's just a normal thing. And it's something where as well, 0.97
00:59:24.200 I think that, you know, what president Trump's probably his most high level response would be
00:59:30.080 is to say, well, they killed 35,000 innocent people first. And I'm trying to end a brutal regime
00:59:34.840 that has been killing their own children and killing, uh, you know, mass killing protesters.
00:59:40.940 And as horrible as this is, we're trying to liberate the country. So it's, it's terrible. It's horrible.
00:59:46.980 It's, it's, it's, there's, there's no question about that. And it has, it doesn't have to be
00:59:51.260 addressed a hundred percent and investigation is still open. And it, and it's something that I
00:59:56.240 think needs to be addressed, but it also in it, in an interesting way, it, it creates a situation
01:00:04.420 where you almost could find agreement between the U S government and the Iranian government where you
01:00:11.660 could, you could see president Trump. Cause he's, he's talked about children, um, a lot that,
01:00:16.440 and protecting children, the first lady as well. Of course, this is a huge, uh, initiative for her.
01:00:20.860 If you saw her movie that just came out, you know, this is almost something where both sides
01:00:24.720 could agree, you know, to, to come out and say that, you know, that children should never be
01:00:29.340 caught up in something like this and perhaps creates a situation where you might even find
01:00:32.880 common ground. I agree. All right. So, uh, Marcella mad granny was upset with me because I cut 1.00
01:00:38.600 you off mid sentence. So if I did that, I'm sorry. I think I did, but I wanted to get a question
01:00:43.740 out to Jack about, about that. Um, so you guys, I am trying to read the chat. It is, uh, it is very
01:00:49.480 fast, but I am because the comments are popping, but I am trying to follow. Well, we we've hit our
01:00:55.140 hour, but Jack, that being said, like, I hope you could come back with us, you know, frequently
01:01:00.820 because it's so valuable to all of us to get your expertise on this. And we're learning a lot. And
01:01:07.100 obviously you're an amazing student of Scott Adams and we know Scott smiling down, watching you here
01:01:13.680 with us today. I know he would love this. I know it. Um, so you guys listen, I always keep it to an
01:01:20.280 hour so our guests can plan their days too. And, um, I appreciate you guys being here. The chat is
01:01:26.940 always respectful and I appreciate that. And, um, Jack, we really appreciate you being here and we look
01:01:33.780 forward to you coming back over and over and over again. Uh, no pressure. Uh, so we're happy to do
01:01:40.260 it. You know, it's something where I think Scott's influence has been so incredibly valuable to, uh,
01:01:48.320 to me, to my life. Listening to him has definitely helped me to make certain decisions and make
01:01:54.120 certain, you know, you know, when I, when I come to that, that, uh, crossroads in my life about,
01:02:00.500 you know, which way should I go? Should I stay in the military? Should I, you know, come out and try
01:02:05.020 to do this stuff publicly? You know, that was a big decision point. And, uh, you know, at back of
01:02:11.360 those days, I wasn't, I didn't know Scott personally and I, you know, later got to know him, but you know,
01:02:15.620 it was, it's always been something that was incredible to me. And so these, these lessons are
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01:02:25.940 that these tools aren't something that you can just use in the news business, that you need to
01:02:32.320 do this in terms of your, your entire life and just, just read the books. You've got to read Scott's
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01:02:44.220 phenomenal. And, uh, and, and yeah, just, just use those tools and, and, and go back loser think and
01:02:50.880 how to fail and, uh, everything, just everything. And I just want to give a shout out from my mom
01:02:56.460 to you because she's your biggest fan. So mom, if you're listening, I told Jack again in person for
01:03:01.340 you. Uh, so thank you, Jack. We love our moms. We have the best moms. I do well with moms.
01:03:07.020 The best. Oh, and then Marcella, I love you guys. Thank you so much. And to everybody in the chat,
01:03:13.100 we will be back tomorrow with our, our special guests. We have Brian Romell coming on tomorrow,
01:03:18.980 our AI man of mystery. So make sure you're here tomorrow. And, um, Jack, thanks again.
01:03:25.400 And shout out to the Poso family. We love all of you. All right, guys. I really appreciate that.
01:03:30.800 Aw, thanks. All right, guys, we will see you tomorrow. Closing sip to Scott as always. Scott,
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