Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 3118 - The Scott Adams School 03⧸19⧸26

00:00:00.000 When you let aero truffle bubbles melt, everything takes on a creamy, delicious, chocolatey glow.

00:00:06.320 Like that pile of laundry.

00:00:07.800 You didn't forget to fold it.

00:00:09.220 Nah, it's a new trend.

00:00:10.720 Wrinkled chic.

00:00:12.100 Feel the aero bubbles melt.

00:00:13.900 It's mind bubbling.

00:00:15.080 So now we'll see people filtering in.

00:00:17.360 They're very excited today.

00:00:21.580 Okay, let's see.

00:00:23.100 Is Lang first, Owen?

00:00:24.460 Yeah.

00:00:24.920 He is.

00:00:25.840 He made it again.

00:00:27.000 Good morning, Stephen.

00:00:28.900 Hey, bookish.

00:00:30.000 Gracie, Toby, Amy.

00:00:33.840 Look who's here, you guys.

00:00:35.620 This is like a show that was on TV when I was a child about kind of kindergarten.

00:00:44.020 Romper Room.

00:00:44.780 And Romper Room. 1.00

00:00:45.740 We always reference it.

00:00:47.480 Oh, okay.

00:00:48.320 Look, and I see Walter and Marcella.

00:00:52.940 Didn't you always hope she called your name if you were like homesick from school and you're like, say Erica.

00:00:57.380 I was afraid she'd call my name.

00:00:59.520 I was afraid that she had omniscient powers and could see through walls. 0.99

00:01:03.480 And it creeped me out.

00:01:05.260 Nowadays, we're used to the thought that people on TV might be able to see us.

00:01:09.600 But in those days, it was my greatest fear.

00:01:13.860 I love you.

00:01:16.340 Oh, my God.

00:01:17.560 I wish.

00:01:18.200 I see Walter.

00:01:20.100 I see Walter.

00:01:22.160 All right, you guys.

00:01:23.060 Is everyone in?

00:01:24.680 I see someone running in the back door.

00:01:27.080 See, we can see you.

00:01:28.000 In the back door.

00:01:29.520 Imagine if we could.

00:01:31.340 I mean, this is fascinating watching them come in because on my last podcast, I had no access to the statistics or any of the, you know, kind of information about what was happening outside my little square.

00:01:49.520 And you are so aware of your audience that it's almost chilling.

00:01:54.520 It's all about them.

00:01:55.680 It's all about them.

00:01:57.260 Yeah.

00:01:57.440 Yeah. We're here because, and for them, because that's what Scott did and what he wanted to keep

00:02:03.480 happening. All right. Well, we can't even like talk about Scott until we like set the room.

00:02:08.940 You guys, is everybody ready? We have something to do. Okay. Here we go.

00:02:14.900 Guess what? You came to the right place again, every day you're nailing it. I'm going to say

00:02:24.120 hey, your system for having a good day is going well.

00:02:27.940 You know what a good system is?

00:02:30.040 A system is something that you do every day.

00:02:32.820 You don't know where it's heading exactly.

00:02:34.660 It's not like a goal.

00:02:36.320 But you do it every day, and you know it leads to something good.

00:02:40.380 Well, one of your systems is watching Coffee with Scott Adams every morning 0.51

00:02:44.700 and finding out the news before all the bad people turn it into garbage.

00:02:50.100 So, I'll start your day with a little dopamine hit that will make your day better.

00:02:57.100 It's a good system.

00:02:58.100 Start the day on a good note.

00:03:00.100 Get some momentum going.

00:03:02.100 It'll be hard to derail your excellent mood.

00:03:07.100 And does it take much to enjoy this new system, this system we call Coffee with Scott Adams?

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00:03:29.780 I'm partial to my coffee.

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00:03:35.860 the thing that makes everything better.

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00:03:43.720 Oh, yeah.

00:03:44.400 Yep, yep.

00:03:46.720 That's hitting all the right spots.

00:03:50.360 Starting our day right.

00:03:53.880 The runners get me every time.

00:03:57.420 I always feel like the sip is so appropriate to the guest.

00:04:02.320 I don't know why, Walter.

00:04:03.300 I felt like that was a good sip for you to hear.

00:04:05.360 So, you guys, it's me, Erica.

00:04:07.500 We're here at the Scott Adams School.

00:04:10.060 And you guys asked for him.

00:04:12.420 We delivered.

00:04:14.400 Hey, so Scott said that you got a dopamine hit from your coffee, but I got a cortisol

00:04:28.280 hit, meaning an adrenaline hit this morning.

00:04:31.320 So I've got extra, you know, extra neurochemicals firing.

00:04:36.120 Mine, my cup of coffee consists of four Nespresso capsules because I'm in a hotel right now.

00:04:43.500 So I have the equivalent, I think, of like eight shots of espresso in a glass.

00:04:48.560 And I might make it through the broadcast without my head exploding, but I might not.

00:04:57.100 Wow.

00:04:57.480 That's some cocktail you got going there.

00:05:01.300 Yeah.

00:05:01.700 You might talk faster today.

00:05:04.000 There it is.

00:05:04.740 Cheers.

00:05:05.180 so uh as many of you know uh we had the fortune of meeting walter unfortunately at scott's memorial

00:05:17.140 service which actually was a beautiful day and i don't know about you walter marcella and owen but

00:05:26.460 at the end of the day we were kind of like all leaving each other like i remember like michael

00:05:31.880 Malice and Joel getting into their Uber to go to the airport and Cernovich went one way and we were

00:05:37.840 going the other way. And I just didn't want the day to end because I felt like everybody there

00:05:45.120 got it. You know what I mean? Like we all got it and we're not around people like that all the time

00:05:50.180 who get it with Scott. And, um, I remember Joel saying that he felt like, um, he's like, he missed

00:05:58.860 everybody you know he's like i miss everybody it feels weird um so i felt that way too but i wanted

00:06:04.880 to play um walter if you don't mind a clip of you speaking at the service and if you guys hear

00:06:10.020 something that sounds like a baby crying it's my very old cat who has dementia and she will not

00:06:14.360 stop for some reason she's fine she's right here but let me play this clip you guys um of walter

00:06:20.300 speaking at the service and then we're going to come back and talk about all sorts of things

00:06:23.900 the way i really got into scott's world was by starting to listen to his show after my father

00:06:32.380 died of als my father had a long um well not that long decline but a shocking decline

00:06:42.780 from an als addiction in early 2020 to a death from the disease just a few months later

00:06:50.740 and i spent my time at his bedside and i came away uh depleted depressed um upset and i started

00:07:01.360 listening to scott's show as a self-help uh strategy i mean to me he was the only self-help

00:07:10.660 author who ever helped me and and and that was because he i didn't get the feeling he wanted to

00:07:16.440 touch me. Um, I didn't get the feeling that he, he, he was creepy in any way. He was happy and

00:07:23.580 he was so damn happy. He wanted other people to have some, you know? Um, and as I started to

00:07:30.540 listen to him, I got an idea that his, his politics really flowed from a desire for others to be

00:07:40.360 happy in their own way. He was one of those people who is an avatar of freedom because freedom is

00:07:50.420 the only way that we get to think for ourselves, feel for ourselves, see for ourselves. We can only

00:07:58.140 be happy in our own way and we can only do that if we're free. It was a very natural set of

00:08:05.840 political beliefs that flowed from a desire for others to be fulfilled. It was the politics of

00:08:14.860 self-help, really. You can only help yourself if you're free. And so the person who's going to

00:08:21.200 help you be that is the person who's going to help you become more yourself.

00:08:27.580 Amen. It's such a good encapsulation. Walter, do you want to reflect on that day?

00:08:32.240 Well, you know, I didn't know Scott except through his show. And so when my friend Greg

00:08:38.600 Gottfeld asked me to speak at the memorial, I was intimidated. I knew that everyone would

00:08:44.420 know each other and be part of a circle that I really wasn't part of. But I flew from Montana

00:08:51.060 and I got to town in the dark after a rental car trip from the San Francisco airport. I didn't

00:08:59.780 know where I was. I stayed in an anonymous hotel out by a freeway. And I went to the address that

00:09:06.440 was given me for the memorial. And when I showed up, I was with friends. And I was immediately

00:09:12.480 welcomed by strangers in a way that showed that Scott had truly succeeded in creating a community.

00:09:21.160 That word's overused community. You know, it usually means people who don't have anything in

00:09:27.160 common, but except their skin color or their gender or something like that. But in fact,

00:09:32.680 this was a real community because we all spoke the same language, had something like the same

00:09:37.760 values, and we're able to appreciate each other's differences and our love for this particular

00:09:43.820 figure. So it was a great day for me. It was a real refreshment spiritually. And you can see me

00:09:53.140 thinking on my feet I always think on my feet I always have a plan and I always throw it out

00:09:57.420 and I really didn't have any prepared speech to give those are all thoughts coming to me as they

00:10:03.940 as they form um so they're sincere if if if a little disorganized oh sincere for sure um

00:10:14.000 Owen and Marcella I'll toss to you first Owen do you want to reflect on that day at all with

00:10:19.240 Walter with us here? Yeah, well, at the time after that service, I commented that I thought

00:10:24.720 it was the most useful memorial service ever. It kind of had, we had all these different

00:10:28.620 perspectives about Scott. I think they were all true. They were all great insights. And, you know,

00:10:34.080 it encapsulated a lot of his advice over the years to everybody. So that self-help course

00:10:38.860 that we all went through over the years, listening to Scott, I think was kind of,

00:10:43.680 you know, a little mini version of that was all there in his memorial service. So I thought that

00:10:47.620 was amazing and uh i really did appreciate your perspective walter um i think it was good to have

00:10:53.420 a perspective from someone who knew him through the show because i think you kind of represented

00:10:57.660 that's how most people knew him yeah and and i think we all felt like we knew scott we all felt

00:11:04.000 like we had this relationship with him but most of us never met him yeah yeah and and and you know

00:11:10.540 it was a little like twitter where x comes alive i mean here were all these people who i had you

00:11:16.980 know only seen on the field as it were and i was meeting the players and that was exciting too for

00:11:22.300 a guy who kind of lives out at the edge of things in montana and comments from the bleachers of

00:11:27.900 of life and politics and so on so true marcella

00:11:31.320 you know your your um speech i would say moved me a lot um i lost my mom to als so i didn't know

00:11:42.420 that about you, Walter. So yeah, during that, it was very moving. But, you know, one thing that

00:11:50.280 I've noticed about the memorial itself is that I laughed a lot. You know, I've expected to cry a

00:11:56.800 lot. But Walter, you're you you gave such a great speech that you just made me laugh as well. You

00:12:04.900 know you you brought the tears but you also brought such such great story building I mean

00:12:12.440 you're a novelist so it's just the way that you wrote it the way that you wrote it the way that

00:12:17.760 you read it um what was it the 80s 90s Scott had like cabinets I still remember you know very visual

00:12:25.540 language that you use so I I'm grateful for having you there for having met you and uh from hearing

00:12:34.440 your story about your father. Well, I used the word addiction in that speech. I said he had an

00:12:40.720 ALS addiction. In fact, it was an affliction. Affliction. And I misspoke. No one gets addicted

00:12:48.820 to ALS, I can tell you. It is a truly terrible disease. And my father, I think, handled it

00:12:58.140 beautifully for someone in terrible pain losing one capacity a day you know one day he could move

00:13:06.100 his right arm and then he couldn't and then he couldn't move his left arm but you know seeing

00:13:10.840 scotch passing was a was a kind of replay of the dignity and the and the self the selflessness

00:13:21.200 that sometimes the dying have, you know, it's a very selfish thing. We die alone.

00:13:27.360 It's the loneliest thing we do really. And to be able to share that and not make it all about

00:13:33.740 yourself is a triumph of the human spirit. You know, it really is. And so I'd like to think my

00:13:41.200 father triumphed in that way. I know Scott did and the world saw it. It meant a lot to me to be there.

00:13:46.640 Yeah, same.

00:13:47.520 He gave us a gift in the privilege of being there

00:13:52.520 till his last moments, really.

00:13:55.280 Well, I will say about the 90s cabinets,

00:13:58.160 the thing I loved about the visit

00:13:59.960 was they was finally able to see the entirety of the set

00:14:03.800 of his podcast.

00:14:05.980 You know, I looked every day at these brown cabinets

00:14:09.080 over his shoulders, and I thought,

00:14:11.460 wow, he lives in a really modest kind of old-fashioned house.

00:14:15.580 I mean, someone should go to Home Depot and get the new cabinets.

00:14:20.940 And then I saw when I got there that, in fact, it was kind of an office of his and not his main kitchen.

00:14:27.240 He had a rather nice main kitchen, I've got to say.

00:14:32.040 That was funny.

00:14:33.020 I knew that that's what you thought in your head when you were saying that.

00:14:36.400 I'm like, oh, he thinks that he's in his kitchen.

00:14:38.320 And I was going to touch on that because, you know, here we were looking at, you know, Scott made a Dilbert Museum.

00:14:45.580 in his house, which was next to his office, a room next to his office. So we were in there

00:14:50.140 all looking at everything in awe. I mean, my God, the, the span of Dilbert, the Dilberritos were in

00:14:56.780 there, you guys, everything. Um, but then Shelly took us aside, meaning us like, you know, us here

00:15:05.040 and just a few other people that are, you know, podcasters, his ex, ex friends, not ex friends,

00:15:11.960 and said, Hey, like, I'm not letting anyone in here, but do you guys want to see Scott's office?

00:15:17.480 And this is after coming out of the museum. And I was like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And so when she

00:15:22.700 opened the door and Walter, you were, I think you were like right behind me. And I remember hearing

00:15:28.240 you going like, Oh wow. And you were saying like, what was going on in my head? Because you walk in

00:15:35.240 there and it's like it's a pretty big room and there's scott's desk with the cabinets behind it

00:15:41.920 with the books on the shelf with everything and you were just like filled and you're like come

00:15:48.400 over with like scott's essence in there it's so moving the first real cartoonist i ever met

00:15:54.460 as a as a child i thought that there were two jobs that i would just absolutely kill to have

00:16:00.660 and one was astronaut and the other was cartoonist um the the people thought these things up and they

00:16:08.300 got to live in the world of their own imagination I mean ultimately I became a novelist but but but

00:16:13.900 I can't hang pictures of the scenes from my novels on the wall as a cartoonist can and to go inside

00:16:22.000 your own head as it were and look around at your own creations and then create new ones seems almost

00:16:29.760 like the nuclear fusion of mental work. So I was in awe. I love that. All right. So we did talk to

00:16:42.800 Walter before the show briefly about some things we want to touch on for you guys.

00:16:47.820 We always like to start with a light story. I don't know if this is light. It is of other world.

00:16:53.780 Let's get light. It can be anything you wanted since it may be completely imaginary. So let's make it light today.

00:17:00.720 All right. So you wanted to be an astronaut. And had you become an astronaut, maybe you could tell us more about aliens. Do they exist?

00:17:09.940 Well, so here's the thing. We noticed the other day, or someone released the fact that the government has registered the domain name alien.gov and aliens.gov.

00:17:24.280 uh everyone suddenly went does this mean you know disclosure looms does this mean

00:17:30.980 that this website this domain name will be filled with pictures of you know craft maybe little

00:17:37.800 creatures lying in refrigerated glass cases i figured it was just a new new branch of the

00:17:44.780 government well exactly my first thought when i saw it was i i can't believe they didn't have

00:17:50.740 these already registered i mean aliens.gov is sort of almost uh redundant of course we're governed

00:17:59.460 by aliens we've known it all along uh not only that our government governs aliens to some extent

00:18:07.540 i know that's a controversial word for for migrants but you know it attempts at least to

00:18:13.140 govern them so these were natural uh domain names that they should have had from the very beginning

00:18:18.740 of the domain name Irma. That they just registered them now is suggestive. It means they have

00:18:26.600 something to tell us. It's sort of like when your parents put out the dish of milk and the

00:18:35.560 cookies for Santa the night before. It fires your imagination. Suddenly you're seeing Santa in your

00:18:41.480 mind. Maybe they're just going to leave these websites up empty so that we can imagine them

00:18:47.660 for a long time. But I think they'll probably start filling them with information. And this

00:18:55.200 information will probably resemble the information that I've been getting for years now. Because not

00:19:00.980 only was I fascinated as a boy with the topic, I'm fascinated as an adult. And as an adult,

00:19:05.920 I'm in a position to speak to some of the people who, you know, have been there, people who've

00:19:11.360 worked in satellite intelligence, for example, and who tell me, oh, yeah, those things come in

00:19:17.240 and out all the time. We just don't tell you about it. What do you mean in and out? And they

00:19:22.160 mean of the atmosphere, the upper atmosphere. They're zipping in and out. Oh, especially around

00:19:27.720 the time of wars or, you know, in the old days, nuclear tests. I've accumulated a lot of this

00:19:37.340 knowledge and done these interviews at length over the years. And it has led me to the conclusion

00:19:44.360 that we have either been subjected to the world's longest and most complicated lie since the 1950s

00:19:52.560 when, you know, the flying saucers started showing up in the movies and on our cereal boxes and

00:19:59.160 everywhere else, or there's something to it. And if I'm going to be frank with your audience,

00:20:05.960 I think there's something to it. And I think the inequality of knowledge, the division of

00:20:13.500 knowledge between those who have it and those who have to just watch Steven Spielberg movies and gas

00:20:19.900 is so great that it's kind of tearing apart society in a strange way.

00:20:26.760 They say that the rich and the poor are the two groups that are always at each other's

00:20:32.360 throat through history. You know, the Marxists would tell us that. But those who know and those

00:20:36.960 who are kept in the dark are also natural adversaries. And I think one of the problems

00:20:43.520 with our society is that it's so divided between people who think they have inner or insider

00:20:50.600 knowledge and those who must always guess or give up on guessing because they've despaired of being

00:20:58.380 told anything interesting or important. I think that gap needs to be closed.

00:21:04.160 have you ever seen anything yes of course i have i live in montana i'm the sky the big sky country

00:21:10.960 the sky is bigger than anything and it is a absolute stage for you know astral and cosmic

00:21:19.760 phenomena now one time i stopped my car and told my wife that a giant illuminated centipede was

00:21:26.640 crawling across the sky and it looked like the invasion was coming it turned out to be starlink

00:21:32.320 If anybody's seen Starlink in a dark sky as it emerges bead by bead, pearl by pearl in this long string and then disappears in the same fashion, they will have seen something that most of mankind throughout its history would call God.

00:21:50.740 I mean, but have I seen things that aren't Starlink?

00:21:54.840 Yeah, I have.

00:21:55.580 I mean, I won't go into cataloging them all, but the interest in the subject comes naturally.

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00:22:39.980 Marcella and I have both seen something, and Owen claims he's seen nothing.

00:22:48.700 And I'm like, Owen, look up a little bit once in a while.

00:22:50.940 I live in a big city, so I certainly don't have the light advantage.

00:22:55.540 I read recently that sightings were down and had been down sort of consistently on a downward track for many years.

00:23:05.540 And the hypothesis was that people are now looking at their phones rather than at the sky when they're bored.

00:23:13.440 So they might be up there. You're just reading your text messages.

00:23:18.600 He's very busy.

00:23:20.940 That sounds right.

00:23:22.380 I'm not sure if I would see them, though.

00:23:24.120 I mean, you know, I live right near Chicago, so I think there's plenty of light pollution most of the time, and it would be kind of hard to see.

00:23:30.660 That's true.

00:23:31.100 In Chicago, you know, there's a theory that a lot of the aliens actually live underground and have their laboratories and sort of nests there.

00:23:38.880 And so in Chicago, I think they come up through the manhole covers, not down from the sky.

00:23:44.240 Oh.

00:23:44.560 Okay.

00:23:45.380 I'll start looking down a little more.

00:23:46.700 Yeah, I feel like I'm suddenly worried about ocean aliens now, which I never thought till recently. Because here on the Jersey Shore, you might remember we had these drones. Scott said I was his best drone reporter and the best one out there because I was reporting on them every night. And they were real. And there were a ton of them. They were loud. They were bizarre. I don't know. They were, I mean, to me, I'm not saying those were aliens, but we were doing something.

00:24:17.560 So, you know, nobody wants to talk about it.

00:24:19.540 And, you know, when I use the term aliens, I see in the comments, as I see every time I use it, it's just a distraction.

00:24:29.140 And I think, well, from what?

00:24:31.020 From life?

00:24:32.040 From, you know, it's not a distraction.

00:24:35.000 It's a fascination.

00:24:36.420 And the idea that we're being manipulated with it.

00:24:39.340 I mean, we're manipulated with all news.

00:24:41.400 So, of course, we're manipulated with this news to some extent.

00:24:44.580 uh you know but but it's not a distraction to think that life is spread or intelligence at

00:24:52.860 least and there might be a difference you know maybe these things are the emanations of a great

00:24:58.480 ai and artificial intelligence a great machine and aren't necessarily you know mammals with

00:25:05.120 green blood or or reptiles but in any case uh what a wonderful distraction it is given what

00:25:11.660 some of the other distractions are. Yeah, we've been told Iran is a distraction from the Epstein 0.97

00:25:17.540 files. So, you know, it's all a distraction from the Epstein files. So if you do believe that

00:25:23.360 there's something to this and there's aliens here, do you think they're benevolent? Do you think

00:25:27.440 they're malicious? Do you think we have a lot to worry about? I think it is the height of human

00:25:32.620 arrogance to think that they give a damn about us. I walk, you know, I'm in a hotel right now

00:25:40.000 in Los Angeles and I walk down the street and I'm sure that in the watered lawns of the Beverly

00:25:45.900 Hills mansions, there are a lot of worms. But do I go digging for them? No. Do they, if they had

00:25:53.020 eyes, maybe notice me go by? Yes. Imagine them thinking he cares about us or he hates us or he

00:26:01.020 wants to attack us or he's ignoring us while he does, you know, wondrous magical things. The last

00:26:07.940 the last conclusion would probably be the best. The idea that they are interested in us just

00:26:15.100 because we're interested in them is a projection of our narcissism. Oh, I love that. But every

00:26:22.940 once in a while, a kid will pick up that worm and chop it into little pieces and play with it.

00:26:27.800 Not that the other worms know that that happened. Exactly. And that becomes, and the story of that

00:26:33.400 becomes for worms the bible in other words it was the biggest thing that ever happened to them

00:26:39.740 you know uh and we're the same way and you know i i sound like a absolute kook what a terrible way

00:26:47.880 to introduce myself to people who don't know me uh you know i'm a serious novelist and journalist

00:26:53.020 i've written for the new republic i've been a correspondent for time magazine i would love to

00:26:57.120 put up my resume to show that you know i don't spend it my whole time talking about thinking

00:27:02.160 about aliens and worms uh but i do spend a lot of my time doing it because it is clear that we're

00:27:08.960 being at least teased with this subject or distracted with it and and when people tell me

00:27:16.240 i'm wasting my time uh talking to you know informants whistleblowers writers military

00:27:22.880 people and so on i think you know how is that a waste of time uh i'm either as i said before

00:27:31.440 Informing myself about the greatest lie mankind was ever told.

00:27:35.560 And I'm getting to meet the liars themselves.

00:27:38.400 Or I'm finding out a little bit of a,

00:27:41.880 I'm getting a little preview of one of the greatest revelations we'll ever have.

00:27:49.060 So I win either way.

00:27:50.980 And don't forget, you guys, conspiracy theories, 0.99

00:27:54.240 the word is just meant to make you feel stupid and to stop looking into something. 0.93

00:28:00.660 So just because someone says it's a distraction or it's a conspiracy theory, that's just noise. 0.98

00:28:07.880 And if your gut or your imagination or your interest is going somewhere, go with it.

00:28:15.540 Just go with it.

00:28:16.180 Who cares?

00:28:17.080 You know, as a novelist, as a screenwriter, as a journalist, do you know what I call conspiracy theories?

00:28:24.500 I call them plots.

00:28:25.620 that when people assert that there might be a plot involved in life that it might be an

00:28:33.460 organized event rather than just a random one uh i think they're actually grasping reality

00:28:40.580 they might not have the right conspiracy theory they might not have the right plot

00:28:45.220 there might be several plots running at once that you think are one or one big plot that has been

00:28:52.760 broken into a hundred pieces and you're perceiving only those pieces not the entirety but in some way

00:29:00.300 the reason stories are legible to us the reason movies mean something is because we all understand

00:29:08.060 plot and to want to use that concept to understand life is quite natural I think and not to be

00:29:16.900 punished i've heard you reference this before when talking about um news events i'll just put

00:29:24.400 i'm not going to even name the ones i've heard you talk about and i would love to talk to you

00:29:28.180 about this off camera one day but um yes i agree i i see it the way you see it is these are like

00:29:37.480 storylines and things are like falling into place a certain time like certain times there's news and

00:29:43.140 you're like, it's just weird how things fit to like keep you going and string you along

00:29:48.640 into a direction.

00:29:50.080 But when you think about like, if I wrote this as a movie, I would write it this way

00:29:55.120 or a story, I would write it this way.

00:29:57.640 Listen, we can't eat rocks and we can't eat raw leaves.

00:30:04.120 Food has to take a certain form chemically before it's digestible by humans.

00:30:09.840 Information is the same way.

00:30:12.360 Just looking at a car, square, not knowing what it is,

00:30:18.200 not knowing where it came from, how it was assembled, or that it might drive away,

00:30:23.180 is not information.

00:30:27.100 It's just beholding a phenomena.

00:30:31.000 In order for humans to digest information, it must be put into story form.

00:30:36.320 Therefore, the people who want us to do things, prepare for a pandemic,

00:30:41.560 um support war whatever must put the information into story form in order for it to be digestible

00:30:50.760 by the audience um when i see powerful entities governments corporations you know mafias as it were

00:31:00.280 uh putting together stories i know that they want something from me and i know that

00:31:06.200 I can guess what they want from me by seeing how they build the story you know by seeing how they

00:31:14.020 build the sales pitch as it were by seeing how they make legible all these what would be

00:31:21.540 illegible individual events so I think that all of us as as readers of the world not just of books

00:31:30.600 should use some of the skills we get from reading books

00:31:34.000 and watching movies and reading screenplays

00:31:37.560 in our perception of the world.

00:31:39.620 Because how these stories are built for us

00:31:42.800 reveals what others want from us.

00:31:46.540 Right, so true.

00:31:47.940 Scott would always tell us that, right, Marcela,

00:31:49.880 about following the storyline, the plot, the plan, the money,

00:31:53.900 who's taking the polls, right?

00:31:57.500 Yeah.

00:31:57.760 And that he would also frame things as being like, you know, the most likely thing to happen next is the most interesting or the most entertaining or the most ironic.

00:32:07.460 And it's all about plot line.

00:32:10.180 I mean, COVID was COVID was begun in the consciousness of most Americans as a bunch of supposed surveillance videos of Chinese train stations and so on where people were falling over.

00:32:24.660 And what was causing them to fall over?

00:32:26.980 Now, that's how you start a miniseries. I'm sorry. And then in the next chapter of COVID, it was sailing toward us on a cruise ship on which it had broken out. And would we let the cruise ship land? And would the infection come across the ocean into our very country and secure perimeter?

00:32:52.300 that was suspense and then it did and then it started breaking out here now i'm sorry

00:32:58.800 it's true that pandemics and viral events do have a storyline you know there's infection and then

00:33:06.540 there's symptoms and then there's illness and then there's spread so in a way pandemics are stories

00:33:13.700 but this was framed and and created in a way that a hollywood script writer would would put it

00:33:21.480 together and when i notice that something looks like a script i really start to wonder who the

00:33:29.180 writers are and then i wonder who's paying them because we're writers we don't do it for free

00:33:35.060 well i i certainly noticed when it was leaked or revealed that during the january 6th investigations

00:33:42.160 they hired hollywood scriptwriters on that committee they did listen i i hate to be this

00:33:49.680 way, but I'll just give your audience some unfiltered truth. One time I was in Los Angeles

00:33:55.500 and I had a meeting with some other writers for a project that we were contemplating. And it was at

00:34:02.560 two o'clock in the afternoon, say. And at one o'clock, I got a call from one of the writers

00:34:08.360 said, we can't meet today. Somebody's in town that I need to meet with instead. And I said,

00:34:14.780 Well, who's more important than me?

00:34:16.340 And they said, they said the CIA.

00:34:19.720 And what they meant by that was that the CIA comes through town and it maybe has stories that it wants to tell or it has technologies or weapons, let's say, that it wants to see celebrated in cinema.

00:34:34.500 Maybe because that scares our enemies to see what, you know, America supposedly has in its back pocket.

00:34:41.520 But in any case, there, of course, is a synergy and a communion between our national security state and our national entertainment state.

00:34:51.280 They're not that different.

00:34:52.660 Well, I heard that there was a good chunk of money that the CIA, I never want to say CIA.

00:34:58.860 I feel like I'm going to get in trouble.

00:35:00.640 You're already in trouble.

00:35:02.160 I know you're thinking it.

00:35:03.960 I'm thinking it.

00:35:04.900 You already know that the CIA has a big chunk of money allocated for movies.

00:35:11.520 And that they actually, you know, kind of will give you like a plot that they want to happen and give you information to put in there for propaganda.

00:35:23.320 But, you know, it's a mutually beneficial arrangement for the intelligence services.

00:35:31.660 It might be propaganda for the screenwriter. 0.97

00:35:34.080 It's a damn great story. 0.94

00:35:36.260 And frankly, us talking about them does not make us subversives. 0.94

00:35:41.520 In a way, it makes us recruiters because it makes the whole world seem very interesting to a certain type of person.

00:35:48.060 I mean, I can imagine as a kid learning this.

00:35:51.600 Oh, my gosh, Hollywood and intelligence agencies have a relationship.

00:35:55.640 Well, that would make me want maybe to join an intelligence agency.

00:36:00.140 How interesting compared to them just, you know, I don't know, deciphering telegrams or something.

00:36:07.120 Well, I do have a question.

00:36:08.320 So did you see House of Cards?

00:36:10.940 I saw parts of it.

00:36:12.860 I mean, I saw like the first couple of seasons and like with the sources that Little Ol' Me has, that was pretty accurate.

00:36:21.340 I heard for some of the plot that they got really good information on the writing.

00:36:27.680 Can I tell you something?

00:36:28.880 There's really good information in TV shows all the time because writers are very competitive.

00:36:36.400 and they try to get closer to the source of these stories than other writers they try to get better

00:36:43.100 versions of them yes they may try to improve on them or or or sort of you know impose their own

00:36:49.420 style but but they're really actually good investigators good detectives and they come up

00:36:54.920 with some great stuff and the things you see on television uh which are presented as fantasy and

00:37:00.340 fiction are often quite true. In some ways, they're used to immunize you against the revelations that

00:37:07.380 they are true. So what's happened with the alien subject is that for years and years, we've been

00:37:13.520 treated to movies and TV shows. And so if you then see one yourself, you go, ah, you watch too much

00:37:19.500 TV. Oh, you've seen too many movies. If we notice political plots or conspiracies, and we talk

00:37:29.020 about them, we're often told, you watch too much TV? What a wonderful method for defeating

00:37:38.880 people's discoveries of inconvenient truths in advance, to put them on TV first, such that it 0.98

00:37:48.320 sounds like you're just repeating crap you watched. Now, you're a writer, and you've written

00:37:55.760 books that have become movies, I think Up in the Air might be the most famous with George

00:37:59.780 Clooney. When you write, do you use that kind of detective process? And how do you go about

00:38:08.700 finding the closest source to the truth? Well, see, I write about what I like to call

00:38:15.460 normal life or everyday life. I want to write about phenomena that we all are exposed to,

00:38:22.660 Not necessarily secret military plots or political intrigue that goes on behind closed doors, but the lives we all lead.

00:38:32.540 So Up in the Air was a story about what I thought was the least well-covered institution in American life, which was airports.

00:38:41.840 We all go through them and none of us notice them or we notice them, but we don't talk about them or we have feelings about them, but we don't think they're important.

00:38:54.180 But one thing that's true is that we all go through those airports.

00:38:57.800 We all sit in those little seats.

00:38:59.500 We all have those conversations with seatmates.

00:39:02.000 We all have the same irritations when when the person in front of us decides to lean back.

00:39:07.840 And I thought, I can make a novel of experiences that I can literally pick up off the ground.

00:39:14.640 They're here for the taking.

00:39:16.140 And as a novelist, that's what I do.

00:39:17.960 I go around and I look for, you know, I look for habitats.

00:39:22.020 I'm like a biologist in the field or, you know, an anthropologist.

00:39:26.140 I look for ecosystems and habitats and so on, which are not celebrated or written about or talked about.

00:39:37.840 But in this case, I looked at one that we all live inside without noticing, like fish in water, and that is the world of airports, hotels, sweet hotels, Applebee's, chain restaurants, and so on.

00:39:52.820 I just thought it was fascinating that we, you know, as Americans, we want to be sophisticated. We still live in a kind of inferiority complex to the wondrous, intelligent geniuses of Europe and the rest of the world.

00:40:07.200 so we we discount our own contributions to the world uh a novel in which an applebee's is

00:40:14.080 described thoroughly oh you know how beneath us all i love that cafes and in paris you know yeah

00:40:22.920 well i mean i i'll tell you personally i i was i i worked i still work for a big consulting firm

00:40:28.200 where we do a lot of travel a lot of flying and when up in the air was in the theaters

00:40:32.540 my project manager said hey we're all going to have a you know project outing we're all going

00:40:37.220 to go see up in the air together and we all sat there and watched the movie and then at the end

00:40:41.960 we're like okay that was pretty depressing it was just you see you see i like to call it one of the

00:40:50.020 last depressing hollywood movies yeah uh you know it was a fairly big budget it was it was paramount

00:40:57.080 studios it was a big director jason reitman and one of the world's biggest stars george clooney

00:41:02.260 and it had an unhappy ending now that is an achievement i mean uh you know almost all

00:41:09.820 movies now end with the world being saved uh you know the person getting the love of their life

00:41:16.340 and i remember joy you know a little everybody loves gossip i remember george clooney telling

00:41:20.740 me you know i don't get the girl in this movie and that is like gary cooper losing a gunfight

00:41:27.860 in the last room people are gonna pay attention that's so true i mean why do we have to walk out

00:41:34.220 of a movie feeling good i mean don't you just want to feel like i i like feeling right you know

00:41:39.640 yeah it was a great story and you know very kind of um satirical i kind of saw it as like the other

00:41:45.400 side of the story of the office you know you remember those two guys that come in bob and

00:41:49.200 whoever and they lay people off and it was kind of like the story of that person that lays people

00:41:55.120 off and um well yeah i mean for the audience the the hero of up in the air has a or the protagonist

00:42:02.340 at least has a peculiar job which is that he goes around to big companies and orchestrates their

00:42:10.540 layoffs for them and goes to their you know executives and gives them the bad news now what

00:42:17.560 could be more dramatic than that and and people say walter um how did you know about that form

00:42:24.400 of consulting how did you how did you know and I say I didn't I made up a job for the guy out of

00:42:31.980 thin air out of my head that I thought would lead to interesting scenes because really I was

00:42:39.560 I wasn't interested in my protagonist as much as I was in his world and you know when you travel

00:42:47.460 all the time you become very detached and in a way it's a luxury to be that detached you know I

00:42:53.940 I used to talk to business flyers and they say, everybody thinks I'm unhappy, but the secret is

00:42:59.540 I'm very happy. I get treated really well by the airline because I have a million miles.

00:43:05.200 I'm led into all these clubs. I'm given all this free food. I get to stand first in line.

00:43:10.780 I'm special. At home, I'm not special. At home, it's, you know, did you feed the dog? Here,

00:43:16.980 it's, you know, here they'll hold a plane for me for five minutes because I'm a platinum status.

00:43:23.100 Yeah, I've seen it. And I'm like one tier below that. Or like that was the highest I could get

00:43:29.840 just be partly because I live in Chicago, and it's pretty competitive. And it's like the top

00:43:33.260 3% that get into that upper tier. And but I knew people that I worked with that were in that and

00:43:39.600 they would always get the first class tickets. They could even reach out to airline to fix my

00:43:44.860 flight problems in a way that I couldn't do. And they would hold them, they would do all sorts of

00:43:51.120 things and it's like wow there's just such a class power so so i asked the director of the movie

00:43:57.520 i actually met him first or one of my earliest meetings of him with him was in chicago you know

00:44:04.860 chicago's a hub for united airlines and they were scouting it as a location and and and i said so

00:44:10.600 what's your status on your airline he said well i'm global services and that is the high echelon

00:44:17.740 united airlines um classification and i said well what's the what's the nicest thing they've ever

00:44:26.540 done for you as a global services member he said once they held a 747 for me in japan wow that was

00:44:34.280 flying to the united states holy and i went wow the ability to have a 747 wait at the curb

00:44:41.860 you guys we got to start rethinking what power is i mean

00:44:46.420 forget it let's also rethink what powerlessness is because because the reason the movie is a little

00:44:54.380 bit sad or bittersweet is that its hero mistakes this kind of power for real power right which it

00:45:02.180 which it is not what it is is flattery by a corporation that wants you to or your boss who

00:45:09.300 pays the bills to keep spending money that's right marcella i want you to jump in i see you have a

00:45:15.720 question yeah um so i have two questions one is about the rash um is the script you wrote um

00:45:23.500 and i want you to talk about it if you can and where it's at now um in the process okay well

00:45:32.160 What Marcel is referring to is a satirical, a sort of dark comedy that I wrote about pandemics and about mass hysteria in general.

00:45:45.760 It's called The Rash. It's not about COVID.

00:45:49.120 It's about a fictional skin disorder that causes people to scratch.

00:45:55.280 Or is it that the scratching is what causes the skin disorder?

00:45:58.500 Nobody really knows. Society is confused. You know, do I have the rash because I scratch or do I scratch because I have the rash? Well, I use this fictional disease, I guess, or it could be mental delusion to explore the process by which an entire society goes crazy.

00:46:21.300 OK, and similar movies were written all throughout the 50s, 60s and 70s, satires of American madness.

00:46:33.820 Network was a movie in the mid 70s about network news, which proposed that the news would start staging events in order to cover them because real life wasn't entertaining.

00:46:45.480 They would never do that.

00:46:46.640 anymore now that was thought to be cynical ridiculous and outlandish but of course we

00:46:53.440 now know it as our everyday life wait walter will there will there be like a million dollar

00:46:58.760 hard to get ointment that people need well you know what i've done a good job in laying my premise

00:47:06.500 because what you want to do as a writer when you create a premise is to get the audience guessing

00:47:11.540 about how it will work out and of course you're right that when there's a rash that may or may

00:47:19.300 not exist there's a company that has a product that will cure it only what are they curing in my

00:47:26.180 case they don't know so you know to kind of give away a bit of the plot a company has a drug

00:47:35.460 whose only effect is that it makes people really lazy and really apathetic and they go

00:47:42.500 this drug is perfect for curing the rash because it doesn't stop the itch it just makes you too

00:47:48.340 lazy to scratch it um and so that's all i'll reveal about them yeah yeah so so so i wrote this script

00:47:57.620 uh it was it was uh brought to me by nicole shanahan she didn't have the story idea but

00:48:03.700 But she wanted a story in this general domain to make us aware of some of the things that had happened to us during the COVID period.

00:48:13.580 But these are the same things that happen to us whenever power wants us all to do the same thing or wants to fill us with fear so that they can then cure the fear to their advantage.

00:48:26.760 So I went and wrote this script and I gave a little presentation about it in Washington, D.C.

00:48:35.000 I made a teaser trailer, a little two minute trailer that showed you what the movie might be like if it's ever funded, you know, if it ever attracts the money it needs to be made, which it hasn't yet.

00:48:47.220 And I spoke about it at a Maha event in Washington, Make America Healthy event.

00:48:53.200 Well, within days, I suddenly had the media from Politico to Yahoo News to The Hollywood Reporter to a British publication to the editor of Mother Jones magazine attacking me for even thinking, for even considering satirizing the holy, sacred COVID pandemic. 0.69

00:49:19.200 Jeez.

00:49:19.820 quote-unquote the worst idea in the history of hollywood what mel mel brooks made a movie called

00:49:27.720 the producers that it's about a play called springtime for hitler steven colbert had dancing

00:49:33.740 vaccines or uh dancing syringes on his show that was the right message how dare walter kern

00:49:40.740 think that there are some lessons serious and comic to be had from an experience we all had

00:49:49.700 as a nation that was one of the most bizarre imaginable in which little kids played clarinets

00:49:57.180 in plastic tents i mean oh who who would ever think of making a comedy out of that

00:50:03.360 you know who would ever make a comedy out of arrows on the floor telling you which direction

00:50:09.100 to walk and how far apart to stand no no no you know you'd have to be insane to think that was

00:50:17.000 worthy of humor it just makes the funding like i want i like tell me what we have to do to get

00:50:23.240 you funding well well one one of the one of the articles suggested that it was a crowdfunded movie

00:50:28.860 it's not we're looking for real investors and and i exist on on x and and you can dm me or you know

00:50:36.980 people can find their way uh uh but i was attacked solidly for a week not just nationally but

00:50:46.040 internationally for for those you know the thought the impudence of thinking we could make ourselves

00:50:55.080 laugh at something that was actually pretty damn funny well i mean i think they're probably just

00:51:02.200 imagining the reception of it and how embarrassed they're all going to be because they're going to

00:51:05.400 be the butt of the joke because once we've laughed at a mass hysteria which is what that was well you

00:51:11.960 know whatever whatever it was medically it was a mass hysteria in terms of mental and intellectual

00:51:18.840 and social behavior okay once you've laughed at it they can't do it to you again that's right

00:51:26.760 they want to reserve the right to use that script again and i'm going to make fun of that and similar

00:51:33.560 scripts it won't be allowed and it shocked me you know i i've made a lot of controversial

00:51:39.720 statements over the years and taken on some contrary stands and i've faced all kinds of

00:51:45.760 trolling and you know criticism but it came down like a boulder on roadrunner's head

00:51:52.700 when i suggested that there might be some humorous and satirical potential

00:51:57.660 in that pandemic experience i think we could use it yeah of course we could yeah i think we could

00:52:04.660 use it it's not over until you've laughed at it that's just like scott's just like scott's memorial

00:52:11.000 service was a chance to to laugh and make and tell funny stories and be together it marcella said it

00:52:19.240 she expected to cry but she laughed instead and there therein lies the closure therein lies the

00:52:26.220 resolution therein lies the life goes on feeling and we haven't had the life goes on feeling yet

00:52:33.880 about this experience and we need it i totally stand by this you guys listening if if you know

00:52:42.200 someone or if it's you and you want to help fund this you know like seriously fund it i think it's

00:52:49.080 important i know people that are livid to this day of course they are yeah and i get it and you know

00:52:57.080 they watch their relatives die through windows if they were lucky enough to get that close to

00:53:02.120 the facility yep and you know and and we we started this by me saying that my father had died of of

00:53:08.760 als he died of als in may 2020 okay um in that world i could not get anybody to help lift him

00:53:18.280 to come to my house i i i couldn't get the people who had the medicine that made him comfortable

00:53:24.760 to come to the driveway they showed up in space suits and i had to go out i mean it was insane

00:53:34.120 this also happened with my father too and i am livid and and a lot of other stories we all have

00:53:39.560 personal stories about this and i agree and i think you know scott would always say mock it

00:53:45.400 right like you got to mock it well like let's mock this i mean we're mocking the gayatola 0.86

00:53:51.080 right so we need we need to mock kobe well i haven't you may be doing that in your private

00:53:57.160 uh we're doing it here yeah but i i fear him i i think i actually think he has nothing to lose

00:54:04.520 by mocking him we're only demanding that more oil fields be destroyed i know but he's got one 0.66

00:54:10.520 leg erectile dysfunction and he's been out it is gay so it's getting it's getting close to home 0.96

00:54:16.520 because yesterday's news was there was two drones undetected.

00:54:21.160 They don't know what over the base of where J.D. Vance

00:54:25.960 and Marco Rubio were staying and reciting.

00:54:30.140 I love our government telling us that our defense secretary

00:54:34.660 and vice president stay at a certain military base.

00:54:37.300 Isn't that supposed to be a secret?

00:54:39.820 They're probably not staying there anymore.

00:54:42.700 If the government doesn't tell you any news reporter will,

00:54:45.700 they're happy to divulge it's all a distraction i will say it worked to make fun of kim jong-un

00:54:52.180 when they called him rocket man i mean it made a difference it seemed to diffuse the whole situation

00:54:57.780 well i don't want to come up for the nickname for for you know the gay ayatollah because

00:55:04.740 and i guess gayatola or whatever yeah it's a nice try but it it just doesn't have

00:55:10.740 have rocket man ring well if trump came up with it it would yeah well you know there's a there's

00:55:18.120 a theory that the ku klux klan was defeated when superman comics made so much fun of it that

00:55:24.240 people you know stopped wanting to join and so and and probably a good name for him maybe gay

00:55:30.860 of hormuz i don't know i mean you know i i don't i think one of i think one of the uh you know one

00:55:38.940 the superior uh aspects of american society is that uh you can be gay here uh and and and you 0.85

00:55:47.740 know over there i'm not so sure it's so easy uh you you kind of have to be the ayatollah to really

00:55:53.900 come out of the closet or maybe you're stuck deepest in it i don't know but but like i'm not

00:55:59.500 going to be making fun of him today i i i i i find myself in the middle of this war not knowing what

00:56:07.660 to think wars are the worst thing to comment on because they're like sports games that you can't

00:56:14.060 see that you know they're obviously secret they're happening far away um there are going to be lies

00:56:22.220 about them and propaganda uh absolutely certain so you're supposed to comment on a game you can't

00:56:29.020 see and that you're being lied about too uh it's very hard by the time you have an opinion about

00:56:35.340 most wars they're over um and an educated opinion and you know we're still we're still fighting

00:56:43.580 about some people are at least whether world war ii was justified um this is going to go on a bit

00:56:52.140 vietnam all of them yeah before before we go i do have to ask you and you don't have to share it

00:56:58.380 i know you're working on a new a new book yes and uh you're in the middle of writing it is there any

00:57:05.340 Can you give us any hints about what it is or what you're working on?

00:57:11.160 Well, as I fade slowly into invisibility, as the sun comes up behind me and washes out my face,

00:57:18.580 if people are wondering what's happening, it's not that I'm spreading Vaseline on the camera.

00:57:25.320 It's that the light is equalizing.

00:57:27.920 I need that trick.

00:57:31.560 So I wrote a book.

00:57:33.680 I've been writing a book for years

00:57:36.360 and it's about a long trip I took

00:57:39.960 at random across America

00:57:42.840 and at one point it was called

00:57:45.800 The Last Road Trip

00:57:47.160 and I made the mistake

00:57:49.000 of previewing this title

00:57:52.240 in the media

00:57:53.900 saying that I was working on a book

00:57:56.060 with this title 0.95

00:57:56.620 well somebody damn stole the title 0.92

00:57:58.520 so I'm not going to tell you 0.94

00:58:00.700 what the book is about

00:58:01.660 because somebody's going to steal

00:58:03.080 the very story but it is a true story of a voyage I made a while back around the country because I

00:58:12.580 had a sense that it was changing so quickly that unless I went out and captured as much experience

00:58:19.140 in a short time as possible it would disappear before I had seen it fully and so it's sort of

00:58:26.740 like a bedside visit to a relative who's ailing. You want to spend a lot of time with them. You

00:58:34.320 want to hear their stories. You want to fix in your mind what their eyes look like and what their

00:58:39.280 jokes sound like and so on. And when I saw so much change coming to this country in such a rapid

00:58:46.120 fashion, I thought, I want to go get to know it before it becomes unrecognizable. And that's what

00:58:51.880 I tried to do. And it's the story of that attempt. I love that. I'm having regrets of not traveling

00:58:59.040 the world more before it's turning into what it's already turned into. I regret not traveling Oregon

00:59:06.600 sufficiently. I mean, no one really needs to get everywhere in the world. They just need to get to

00:59:13.240 a place that isn't theirs. Yeah. And to see something from a perspective they don't usually

00:59:20.400 see it that's enough to teach us i mean uh those who can't afford international tickets there's a

00:59:26.200 town not far from you where they do things a little differently why not go there check into

00:59:30.640 a motel and find out what's distinctive about it i think there's been stories about how there's a

00:59:37.380 pretty big percentage of americans that have never left their state yeah well we don't have any time

00:59:44.060 left but i can tell you this one sad thing i discovered about america was i'd go into gas

00:59:49.100 stations and i'd ask for directions to the next town and they'd say don't you have a phone and

00:59:54.660 i'd say well can't you give me the directions and they'd say well let me look at my phone

00:59:59.460 and i think you don't know where you live remember the guy be like you go down about a half a mile

01:00:07.020 you make directions then you make the opposite you'll see the water tower yeah it's a lost skill

01:00:13.460 I remember having the atlases and the maps

01:00:16.580 and having to figure out how to get around my city,

01:00:19.460 having to figure out how to get across the country.

01:00:21.500 And I don't think anyone could do it today.

01:00:23.500 I wouldn't do it either.

01:00:24.600 I'd just plug in the GPS.

01:00:26.880 Not anyone can do it, but I did it.

01:00:30.320 That's exactly how I did it.

01:00:32.220 I gave myself certain rules.

01:00:34.360 And one of them was that the phone stayed in the glove compartment.

01:00:37.460 Love it.

01:00:38.340 I love it.

01:00:38.920 I love it.

01:00:39.320 I love it.

01:00:40.280 Walter, thank you so, so, so much.

01:00:42.580 you guys don't fear i already asked walter if he'll come back a thousand times and he said yes

01:00:47.780 he said he'll come back every week i'm kidding he didn't say that but he did say he would come back

01:00:52.140 and we are so appreciative that you came here um we will link everything about you that we can

01:01:01.680 you have a huge fan base here i hope there's someone out here that wants to uh help with

01:01:07.820 funding for rash i think it's huge about rash you know and there's something called the brownstone

01:01:14.180 institute out there which is a kind of a maha think tank and they know a lot about the movie

01:01:20.020 so if you can't find walter kern you maybe can find the brownstone institute and talk to them

01:01:24.620 okay we're going to link all of that for everybody uh thank you so much we always do

01:01:30.080 a closing sip to scott and we ask everybody to go out there and as scott would say to be useful

01:01:37.240 You guys, I think we learned a lot from Walter today.

01:01:40.300 You are an absolute gem.

01:01:42.960 We are the luckiest group, and we can't thank you enough.

01:01:47.740 We can't wait till we see you next time.

01:01:49.840 I had a lot of fun, and I have consumed eight solid shots of espresso in one glass.

01:01:54.980 And it looks like it, and I'm acting like it.

01:01:57.480 God bless.

01:01:58.360 All right, let's do a closing sip to Scott.

01:02:00.120 Everybody, go out there and be useful to Scott.

01:02:03.540 Be useful.

01:02:04.700 Bye, guys.

01:02:05.280 Have a great day.

01:02:06.040 Thanks, Walter.

01:02:07.360 Bye.

01:02:07.780 Thank you, Walter.

01:02:08.200 Bye.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - March 19, 2026

Episode 3118 - The Scott Adams School 03⧸19⧸26

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