Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 3123 - The Scott Adams School 03⧸26⧸26

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00:00:34.380 steven a special shout out to you as usual good morning gunner good morning patty good morning

00:00:42.440 amy good morning everybody i feel like we should have a song it's thursday like good morning be

00:00:51.740 careful driving rick oh rick what are you doing put your seatbelt on morning sjv

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00:01:25.980 Good morning, Bev.

00:01:27.740 Welcome to the Scott Adams School. I like doing the date now. I think it's a reminder for me.

00:01:34.340 So it is March 26th, 2026 in the year of our Lord. What does that mean in the year of our Lord?

00:01:42.260 anyone anyone well that's the because we measure our calendar from the year that christ was born

00:01:50.280 so there's before christ and i think it's april dominium but ad is basically after christ

00:01:59.340 and so it's the year of our lord because it's been 2026 years since he was born

00:02:05.420 oh my god i mean i probably could have figured that out but it's so much easier when you do it

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00:03:29.420 we have a guest joining us in a minute and I'll explain what's happening. Okay. Here we go.

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00:03:56.840 that was a quick sip today so welcome my name is erica you're here at the scott adams school

00:04:09.060 i still always want to say coffee with scott adams it's every day um so you might be expecting

00:04:15.880 steve cortez steve had an unavoidable situation he had to take care of and he is going to be coming

00:04:24.060 on in the near future, but I'll let him tell you why he couldn't be here today when he comes.

00:04:29.580 And in a minute, we're going to be joined by Joel Pollack, and he's going to spend a half hour with

00:04:36.140 us talking news. And he is the opinion editor of the California Post and also Scott's biographer

00:04:43.940 for Scott's upcoming biography that's going to be so good. And he's hoping to have it done.

00:04:50.100 and we'll ask him by October.

00:04:52.560 So in the meantime, I thought we'd start with some light news

00:04:56.300 and I know Marcella picked out a couple of stories

00:04:59.760 and Owen, maybe Marcella, if you wanna grab a light story

00:05:02.640 and when Joel gets here, we'll go deeper.

00:05:04.940 We'll start with Iran.

00:05:06.500 Yeah.

00:05:08.060 Just a light little story.

00:05:09.620 So there's a story I saw on X for coffee

00:05:15.400 and I thought, oh my gosh, I need to bring it on.

00:05:17.480 I don't know.

00:05:18.400 I always did for Scott.

00:05:20.100 So Coffee for Grey Matter study, an article on the Register highlighted a study.

00:05:26.160 Maybe Owen has talked about this before, but I thought it was interesting that moderate coffee intake, two to three cups daily, correlates to 18% reduced dementia risk.

00:05:38.500 And this was a Mass General Brigham study tracked over 130,000 people for 43 years.

00:05:46.840 so it was sort of a very long study sort of it was in eleven thousand of the

00:05:54.280 hundred and thirty thousand developed dementia and the observation it was an

00:06:00.520 observation analysis of course it shows association which one came first did the

00:06:08.200 coffee relate to the you know the dementia and all that so well they

00:06:15.320 say staves off dementia is what i've been hearing but it has to be caffeine it can't be decaf

00:06:22.280 that that i know so make sure you have the full test you guys yes and then um i know some of you

00:06:29.560 know my my grandma turned 100 years old yesterday and some of you guys were asking like what is the

00:06:37.400 What's the secret? Well, she never worked out. She never went to the gym. The other secret is

00:06:45.320 she lives in El Salvador. Every relative I have that lives in El Salvador still alive,

00:06:50.360 unless it was a war related thing. So maybe a slower pace of life. And one of the things is

00:06:58.600 when you're older in El Salvador, you still have a social network and you don't live by yourself.

00:07:04.600 you live with like many people it's like a uh what would you call it as a name to it but it's

00:07:11.800 like you like a commune you live with children you're you're you're you're like generational

00:07:18.440 generational and then you also live near each other like in california if i want to see there's

00:07:25.160 some people on the chat that like we talked about maybe meeting up but it takes like even driving

00:07:31.800 like from sunset to some other place in LA it takes me like 30 minutes and it's like a mile

00:07:37.920 yeah um so our separations you know so that's one of the things everybody's let's all move

00:07:44.060 in natural food but one of the things that she always had and still does is coffee coffee was

00:07:52.880 a great and important task for her um always non-decaffeinated she even made it uh meaning

00:08:01.060 from the bean to actually drinking it so and she still has dementia at the age of 100 so

00:08:08.060 she doesn't no she doesn't oh the best part about this is she didn't work out

00:08:13.960 i like that i mean although i don't think i would recommend that as a longevity strategy

00:08:21.980 but um i was just listening to a podcast of one of the longevity guys that's working on

00:08:27.500 some of this tech i forget his name sorry but he um is it brian johnson uh no it wasn't him it was

00:08:36.000 somebody else that was doing like therapy i i could probably find it but it i don't know if

00:08:41.960 i could pull it up right now but um the you know part of the discussion was like what are all the

00:08:47.580 things you can do to live longer and he didn't mention coffee although i i have seen several

00:08:53.140 studies that talk about that, that it does increase longevity. So definitely that's part

00:08:57.900 of it. Although he did talk about polyphenols and that's the part of coffee that people think

00:09:03.140 make you live longer. So it does tie into that. And he talked about some other supplements and

00:09:09.380 some other things, but a lot of it was like, yes, you should exercise. And I think they said,

00:09:13.540 you need to get up to the point where you can't have a conversation, like you're breathing hard

00:09:18.120 enough that you wouldn't be able to talk to somebody for at least five minutes. And that's

00:09:22.540 not a long time, right? So you should be able to do that. But if you're, you know, and I think

00:09:27.760 what I've read about elsewhere is like what they call HIT or high intensity interval training is

00:09:34.840 one of the best forms of exercise. And that basically is where you get really high up in

00:09:39.760 your heart rate, but only for like a minute at a time. And then you cool down for a couple minutes

00:09:44.980 and then you do it again for a minute and then you cool down and you keep cycling through it for

00:09:48.820 maybe 15 or 20 minutes but you're really only going hard for a minute at a time or maybe even

00:09:53.360 30 seconds at a time like there's different cycles you can do but um by getting your heart rate up to

00:09:58.480 that high level but only for short periods of time a little burst it seems to do better effects than

00:10:06.100 if you were just doing that slow running or something i i think with the weather breaking

00:10:10.940 i'm gonna commit to some things like that i've already decided it wasn't just this conversation

00:10:15.440 but you know long live erica all right i think i think this means we need another quick sip with

00:10:20.800 all this like coffee is good for you stuff coffee yeah like let's just have a quick good oh and you

00:10:26.600 give us a little story joel's trying to get in y'all he's he's on his way he's trying well the

00:10:32.080 palantir ceo is apparently saying that only the neurodivergent will survive the ai takeover

00:10:36.560 um he did also allow for people with vocational training um but it says um you know neurodiverse

00:10:46.320 people deal with all sorts of variations on neurology that have historically labeled them as

00:10:50.080 other um apparently this person carp um seems to think that you know they're the ones that are

00:10:58.340 going to have the opportunities i don't know if that's just because that's a type of thinking

00:11:01.520 that's different than what the AIs will be thinking.

00:11:05.440 It wasn't entirely clear,

00:11:06.980 but he seemed to be saying

00:11:08.380 that neurodivergent are going to have

00:11:10.440 some kind of advantage going forward.

00:11:11.940 So I thought that was interesting.

00:11:14.000 Not really sure if that's how things are going to work out.

00:11:16.340 I'm still kind of skeptical

00:11:17.220 that AI is going to take all our jobs.

00:11:19.380 But I do certainly find it useful.

00:11:21.620 And I think it's a great way to augment your job.

00:11:24.180 And it has absolutely helped me save many hours

00:11:27.180 and create software

00:11:29.380 that i never would have imagined i could create and so it is pretty amazing but i don't think

00:11:35.240 we're anywhere close to the point where you could just say okay i've got all these agents and now i

00:11:39.060 don't need employees anymore i can just have everybody be a virtual agent right i think that's

00:11:44.620 gonna probably blow up on people and i think it probably is already i know there was at least like

00:11:49.420 aws recently that had a massive outage because of ai and they weren't you know they weren't checking

00:11:55.000 the code enough or whatever it was and um i think with all these big companies that are kind of

00:12:00.520 diving headfirst into this i think they're going too fast i think they're not really working out

00:12:04.440 the guardrails the way they need to and i i've already made a prediction i think there's going

00:12:09.620 to be at least one company that goes on a business because of ai that they'll they'll go bankrupt

00:12:13.520 probably i mean it's gotta i mean but will they go bankrupt because of ai or they already had

00:12:20.220 financial problems and they're just using ai as no i mean my prediction is it'll be something that

00:12:26.940 ai does that blows up the company oh okay like an ai company that ends up okay it could be an ai

00:12:34.820 company itself or it could be you know a tech company or it could be some other company but

00:12:39.780 like you know you've had these incidents right where like a customer service bot will say

00:12:44.700 something and then it wasn't what they were supposed to say and then the customer is like

00:12:49.400 well, the, you know, this chat bot told me this. And I think the court case on that one was an

00:12:54.840 airline where somebody reached out to the chat bot and said, I have a funeral. Can I get the

00:13:00.820 funeral fair or whatever it is? And they were like, oh yeah, you can have that. And then they

00:13:05.500 didn't apparently go through the right process because the chat bot said they didn't need to.

00:13:11.380 And, um, you know, they weren't going to honor the fair or whatever. And, and so the guy sued

00:13:16.340 the company and said your chatbot told me that I qualified and the court basically said yep if

00:13:22.220 your chatbot said that then you're you're held accountable to that you have to honor that and

00:13:27.240 you know that sort of thing is just a little example but I think when you have these tech

00:13:32.980 companies where you know they're putting out all these code updates all the time it could very

00:13:38.180 easily open them up to some kind of hack or you know break their systems in a way that might even

00:13:43.980 be hard to recover from and the further they go down the path the more of this ai code is in there

00:13:49.100 and they don't know what's out there essentially because no one's ever looked at it no one's ever

00:13:53.240 thought about is this the right code do we have the right security do we have the right things

00:13:56.800 here and i think we're gonna probably have at least one instance of a company that says you

00:14:01.920 know we're it just ruined our revenues or it it you know all our customers went away or something

00:14:07.560 geez um let's uh let's welcome joel in rumble was rumbling today so he's coming up now too

00:14:16.900 thank you joel who knows rumble's amazing welcome can you guys hear me we can oh great yeah rumble

00:14:27.100 did not load for me on my usual device so see you guys it's not just me it's not just scott it

00:14:34.020 happened. Yeah, I couldn't figure it out. Anyway, thank you for your patience. And I'm very glad to

00:14:40.080 be joining you today. Oh, we're so thrilled that you could jump on with us. And everybody in the

00:14:44.900 chat was looking forward to you. We had our sip and we were just talking about, you know, world

00:14:49.460 domination by AI. But I know the one thing they want to hear off the bat, because we were talking

00:14:55.900 about it, two things. One was, you know, how things were going at the California Post, as you

00:15:02.560 are the opinion editor out there. How are things? Things are going great. It's officially two

00:15:10.320 months today that we've been in print. There's a steep learning curve. For me, the big challenge

00:15:16.820 is managing my schedule because I'm balancing the post with my four kids, my beautiful wife,

00:15:25.300 the other things I do in my life, trying to stay healthy, trying to write Scott's biography,

00:15:31.780 and all the things, which is going well, by the way.

00:15:33.800 I want to talk about that.

00:15:34.820 Same.

00:15:35.660 But, you know, over time you do learn the new skills you're going to need for the new

00:15:43.040 tasks you have.

00:15:43.780 And I'm starting to feel more comfortable in the job.

00:15:47.860 At first it was all adrenaline, but you can't really run that way.

00:15:51.660 And then you have to find routines that work for you.

00:15:54.900 So we're sort of getting there.

00:15:56.500 I mean, we still have a long way to go before it feels really locked in, but it's definitely

00:16:00.700 getting smoother.

00:16:01.780 and we're enjoying it so so i'd like incredibly interesting campaign season here in california

00:16:07.800 so that's good too oh right that's great news uh fodder but so joel when we were at scott's

00:16:15.760 memorial on a sunday the next day the california post was launching um so that i mean talk about

00:16:26.160 you know, running around and all of that good stuff. So, you know, like us, Joel, we all kind

00:16:31.400 of started something new basically at the same time. And so I know Owen and Marcella can also

00:16:38.140 appreciate the things that we also do in our daily life, like you, families, jobs, other jobs,

00:16:44.220 other things that we're doing and the adrenaline with the Scott Adams school. So we feel that and

00:16:51.500 like so sympathetic to like the, oh my gosh, I have so many irons in a fire. So I kind of like

00:16:57.660 that we started this at the same time. Yeah. So let me talk about a few things I'm sure people

00:17:03.260 are thinking about and I'm getting questions about from friends and things like that. So

00:17:09.380 I want to talk about the war in Iran briefly, if I could. Yeah. And I want to tell you an

00:17:17.280 interesting story. So I'm in LA right now. I was in DC earlier in the week, and I was taking the

00:17:23.940 last flight out of DC to LA. And I wanted to be at the airport early because I heard all the stories

00:17:30.540 about the TSA lines. And it turns out the TSA problem has largely been solved. As of yesterday,

00:17:37.420 I haven't checked yet today, but as of yesterday, the problem was basically half a dozen airports.

00:17:41.920 so everyone's showing you these long lines at houston at uh george bush airport there in houston

00:17:48.100 that's the biggest problem and then there are lines in the new york airports which are also

00:17:52.480 having other problems with the crash at la guardia and everything but aside from salt lake city and

00:17:58.240 one or two other places things are actually running pretty smoothly and ice has managed

00:18:02.260 to help in atlanta and help in other places and anyway i didn't know that at the time i was going

00:18:07.720 to the airport to fly to LA. So I was pretty nervous, and I decided to leave as early as I

00:18:13.100 could. But on my way, I got this message from a producer at the BBC, British Broadcasting Company.

00:18:21.700 I had been on their show a few times in the past, and they wanted to know if I could do a panel

00:18:26.580 discussion. And I said, what time? And they said, well, it's going to be, I think it was 5.30 p.m.

00:18:32.820 eastern which i could only do in theory if everything else had gone right and i had packed

00:18:39.380 my bags on time and i got my kids home from school and i you know because i was basically driving from

00:18:43.900 my kids school dropping them at home and then going to the airport so i managed to work it out

00:18:48.160 and i moved mountains to get there and i show up outside the capitol building with my suitcase and

00:18:55.780 my backpack and everything and my motorcycle gloves because i couldn't find my regular gloves

00:19:00.500 and it was pretty cold. DC is weird. It's 74 degrees one day, 47 degrees the next day right

00:19:06.080 now in spring. I get there and I do this panel discussion. And what do they want to talk about?

00:19:11.740 They want to talk about Jeffrey Epstein. Now, this was funny to me because every time I've

00:19:17.460 been on this network, that's all they want to talk about. I'm not kidding. For months,

00:19:21.640 all I have ever been asked about on that network is Jeffrey Epstein. They are obsessed with

00:19:27.760 Jeffrey Epstein. And I can understand it from one point of view because Prince Andrew obviously is a

00:19:33.980 big figure in the UK and they are still generating news about that. And it's something people are

00:19:41.840 talking about. On the other hand, it's completely transparently clear that they believe that the

00:19:48.700 Jeffrey Epstein story is going to bring down Donald Trump in some way. That if he's not

00:19:53.680 implicated, and he hasn't been, but if he's not implicated, then at least his base will abandon

00:19:59.280 him over Jeffrey Epstein. And they've bet huge on that outcome. So they keep bringing up Jeffrey

00:20:05.140 Epstein. And it's not primarily about concern for the victims, I'm sorry to say, because

00:20:09.180 if that were the case, they would have approached the story completely differently. They're just

00:20:13.060 turning it into their nightly thing. I mean, it's-

00:20:16.360 How do we bet against them? Because I don't see that happening. If anything, I think the

00:20:21.780 epstein files have exonerated trump right so they're going after anyway so but they invited

00:20:28.080 me to talk about iran okay so i show up thinking i'm talking about iran and it's a whole setup

00:20:35.940 with the epstein files so i answer a question about the epstein files and then i get to a

00:20:41.000 question about iran now i want to talk about what they asked me they asked me they hadn't heard this

00:20:46.080 yet. I had already read the news coverage, but there was a 15-point plan you might have heard

00:20:51.640 about that was proposed by President Trump to end the war with Iran and create this peace agreement

00:20:57.640 to end the fighting. And I had read bits and pieces of it earlier in the day, and they were

00:21:03.400 just hearing about it. And so they asked me about it. And what would Scott have said immediately

00:21:09.300 straight off the bat? Can you think about what Scott would have said? Because that was the thought

00:21:13.020 that entered my mind about this plan i don't know which direction laundry list persuasion maybe

00:21:21.120 path to sale i i think owen's sort of on the right track but you're gonna kick yourself when you when

00:21:27.860 you hear because he said it a lot too many points right 15 points too many points make your one

00:21:35.080 point yeah who has 15 points for anything so so i said they asked me what do you think about this

00:21:41.900 15-point plan. I said, you know, Woodrow Wilson ended the first world war with a 14-point plan.

00:21:48.400 I think 15 points is too many. Like, it's just too many. And so then I said, the one point that's

00:21:56.480 missing from all these proposals is human rights. That if Trump proposed a deal with Iran, where

00:22:04.860 Iran would have to obey human rights, and there'd be some kind of monitoring mechanism and some kind

00:22:10.580 of accountability for progress, then that would be a good deal, because not only would conditions

00:22:17.520 improve for the people of Iran, but it would also give the outside world leverage inside Iran.

00:22:23.740 And we've seen this work before. There were agreements with the Soviet Union that forced

00:22:28.200 the Soviet Union to open up because they had to abide by these human rights rules that they had

00:22:32.200 agreed to to get access to international markets. And it would also look good. I mean, if you're

00:22:38.220 just talking about all these geopolitical issues people don't really care that much but you talk

00:22:42.280 about human rights and democracy it connects with people a little bit more and the weirdest thing

00:22:47.240 was that everybody agreed with me so i came into this panel discussion where they hate trump and

00:22:52.380 they're talking about epstein and i was with this democratic strategist very elegant lady very well

00:22:58.840 spoken but totally just reciting talking points interrupting me and telling me that i was wrong

00:23:05.400 about everything and I just let it roll. I didn't react to that, but she was dead set against Trump

00:23:10.760 and suddenly they're all agreeing with me. And I thought that was one of the best interviews I've

00:23:16.160 ever done. It was probably top five. I called my wife on the way to the train to get to the airport.

00:23:20.700 I made my flight and there was no TSA line, by the way, at Dulles International. And I said that

00:23:27.900 was probably top five interview. I can't believe how well that went. I just totally crushed it.

00:23:31.760 I don't normally feel that way after interviews, but this was amazing.

00:23:35.300 I can't wait till they put the clips up.

00:23:37.400 Oh, no.

00:23:38.760 Well, I waited and I waited and I waited and I waited.

00:23:43.360 And they put clips up about Jeffrey Epstein and more about Jeffrey Epstein and interviewing Thomas Massey about Jeffrey Epstein.

00:23:50.940 And tomorrow we're going to have a special on Jeffrey Epstein.

00:23:53.260 So I wrote to them and I said, hey, you know, would love to see a clip up from the interview, blah, blah, blah.

00:23:58.860 So they put up the Jeffrey Epstein question, which I have since reposted on X.

00:24:05.400 And I'll tell you what I said.

00:24:07.940 You can watch it.

00:24:08.580 It's 59 seconds.

00:24:09.560 It's not very long.

00:24:10.400 But they asked me, what do I think of this whole thing?

00:24:14.460 And I think the specific question was, are victims being silenced in America?

00:24:19.880 And I said, no.

00:24:22.260 And it's good that victims are being heard.

00:24:25.360 But new victims are being created.

00:24:27.180 and I gestured toward the Capitol building. And I said, you have members of Congress going on the

00:24:32.000 floor and reading the names of men who happened to be mentioned in the Epstein files, or who had

00:24:37.900 the same name as people in the Epstein files, but who are totally innocent and had nothing to do

00:24:42.280 with Jeffrey Epstein. I could have been even more specific. I probably should have been. Scott would

00:24:45.700 have wanted me to be. There was a mechanic in Queens who was named by Ro Khanna as being in

00:24:51.560 the Epstein files and a mistake. It was a guy with the same name, but he mentioned this guy

00:24:57.020 or, you know, so, so Ro Khanna, I think of the six people he mentioned, I think four of them

00:25:01.860 were completely innocent. Two of them were well-known associates of Epstein and the other

00:25:05.660 four were just random guys. And he mentioned them on the floor of the house. Why? Because

00:25:11.920 they have parliamentary immunity from defamation lawsuits for everything they say. It's under the

00:25:17.600 speech and debate clause of the Constitution. So I said, you're creating new victims in the

00:25:21.720 building behind me because members of Congress are reading names of innocent people and falsely

00:25:26.240 accusing them of being involved with Jeffrey Epstein. So the tragedy is that new victims

00:25:30.140 are being created. And it blew their minds that I said that. And so they just didn't come back to

00:25:35.560 the point. They just want to talk about whether it's going to separate him from his base. They're

00:25:39.000 like, well, will it separate him from his base? And how about Iran and Venezuela and all these

00:25:42.920 things? And I said, no, I don't think so. There are some people in MAGA world who don't like

00:25:50.000 these policies, but people support him and they're giving him a chance to work things out in Iran.

00:25:55.700 And the Democrat lady just bit my head off after that. But they don't put that up. They didn't put

00:26:02.100 that part up either. They just put up the Jeffrey Epstein part. And I think it's so interesting

00:26:08.260 how the media operate to censor whatever doesn't fit their narrative. And the only reason they put

00:26:15.160 that Epstein clip up of me was because it fit in with their whole storyline. And I guess I pressured

00:26:22.080 them enough and they knew that I made a huge effort to be there. But I said to them, I made

00:26:28.120 a point about the Iran war that everybody agreed with. I made a point about human rights. You can

00:26:33.040 get a peace deal with human rights and it would be great for everybody and and they said well you

00:26:38.500 know we just ran out of social media slots you know you know our team is very busy and all that

00:26:45.040 stuff the bits are too expensive right i i wrote to a friend and said they're more interested in

00:26:53.560 a dead pervert than in solving the middle east i mean it's like it's crazy to me i understand yes

00:26:57.780 epstein is a serious issue but like to the exclusion of everything else it's just nuts

00:27:02.500 so anyway it doesn't seem to me like the uk and europe is taking the epstein thing a lot more

00:27:07.240 seriously than they are in the united states at this point and it probably is because they're

00:27:11.580 just behind like they probably never really dealt with it years ago like we did um and we didn't

00:27:17.900 have you know a big blow up with the first version of the epstein files and now the way it rolled out

00:27:22.480 here it was kind of like okay there's more epstein files like i'm kind of tired of hearing this

00:27:27.400 headline and i've seen it so many times and i'm not really thinking there's anything new here

00:27:30.940 and you know Scott talked about that where it's like you're just after a while you become numb

00:27:35.820 to it or it becomes normal and you don't really think of it as a big story anymore and I think

00:27:40.980 it's a newer story over there and that because they are actually taking people down over there

00:27:45.300 like people are losing their jobs some of them are getting charged criminally and none of that

00:27:49.820 has happened here right so it seems to me like they really are taking it more seriously over

00:27:54.760 there than they are here I think it's just about Trump but go ahead over there but if you look at

00:28:00.260 what they're being charged with it's mostly nonsense i mean prince andrew is being charged

00:28:05.460 with something like misgovernance it's like a kind of crime that doesn't exist in the united

00:28:11.920 states i mean we'd have to indict all of congress if it came to misgovernance it's just can we

00:28:16.280 you just see you see why we broke away from britain because at some level the state has a

00:28:23.060 form of absolute power even in the uk i mean the uk invented modern parliamentary democracy but

00:28:28.780 they also had a parliament that was out of control, which is why the 13 colonies separated

00:28:33.480 and created checks and balances. And I think that there could be more people in the United States

00:28:39.660 who could face criminal liability. Maybe the statute of limitations has expired. And Scott

00:28:43.800 used to say, we'll never know the full story on the Epstein files because there are people who

00:28:47.300 will just make sure we never know. And you can, you can insert whatever you want into that space,

00:28:51.580 but there is a lot else going on in the world. And it's not like that's not important, but

00:28:58.120 we have a war that's being fought right now. And I just came up with what I think would actually

00:29:03.020 be a reasonable solution. And you guys know, before the war, I was saying I prefer to peace

00:29:07.680 agreement. And I'm pretty hawkish on these issues. But I was saying, let's come up with a better

00:29:12.260 agreement, because I think it would be preferable to war. I do think Trump tried. I think now that

00:29:17.260 we're in a war, we have to win it. I think we're going to win it, by the way. Also, another Scott

00:29:20.760 point, we don't know what's going on. So all these experts on TV and all these people saying they

00:29:25.360 know what's happening and this they don't know they have no idea we have no idea the only thing

00:29:29.900 we know is gas prices are going up and so if people are opposed to the war because gas prices

00:29:34.340 are going up you can totally understand that because that's a tangible thing i do it's funny

00:29:38.980 that when gas prices were going down under trump nobody talked about all the things that were

00:29:43.220 becoming cheaper because gas prices were going down they're always reminding us now of all the

00:29:47.500 things that are more expensive because gas prices are going up but you know i i think that trump is

00:29:53.780 is going to win in a big way here. And the reason is not just because he's a master persuader,

00:30:00.520 as Scott said, I just think he has no choice. I think once you're in this situation, you have to

00:30:04.860 win. The good news is there's nothing left of Iran's command structure. The Israeli military

00:30:11.700 just wiped out the leadership of the Iranian Navy. The Europeans have finally realized they

00:30:17.260 need to be involved. So they're going to send minesweepers to clear the Strait of Hormuz.

00:30:20.460 The Arab states are urging Trump and helping Trump, and they want to win the war because

00:30:25.540 Iran attacked them unprovoked. They don't want to live in the shadow of an Iran that can do that.

00:30:29.660 So I think everything is actually moving toward victory. But as Scott often said,

00:30:33.760 you can't tell when you're in the middle of it. The difference between success and failure isn't

00:30:37.180 clear when you're in the middle of it. Sometimes the moment before success feels like failure.

00:30:42.120 So I just think we don't know how this is going to shake out. I totally understand people who

00:30:47.260 oppose it i think there's a reasonable argument against it and even though i'm supportive of it

00:30:53.700 i think i probably gave the best argument against it or at least the best alternative to war

00:30:58.320 and nobody was interested not even the bbc so um you know i i think that we just have to wait and

00:31:06.260 see and watch and i think scott would have been i mean this is just my personal opinion i can't

00:31:11.780 speak for him obviously i i think he would have been opposed to getting into this but i think he

00:31:16.140 would be supportive of winning it as long as it didn't involve large, you know, ground troops and

00:31:20.560 whatever. But again, people can also differ on that. I think it's okay. I just think it's

00:31:24.860 interesting that when you come up with a solution, they don't want to talk about it. They want to

00:31:29.660 talk about Jeffrey Epstein. So it's, it's like, you can't have a discussion about the alternative

00:31:34.380 to war because even the anti-Trump people don't want to talk about it. So what do you, what do

00:31:38.500 you think about Schrodinger's negotiation on the ending the Iran war? Like it seems to me like

00:31:44.220 it's really hard to know what's real and what might just be a head fake or even some kind of

00:31:50.100 psyop or persuasion play. Because I read an article where they took the opinion that this

00:31:58.320 is all basically psychological warfare on Trump's part to create division and to create uncertainty

00:32:04.760 and to pit all the Iranian leadership that's left against each other. And that initially maybe there

00:32:11.560 wasn't any talks and he said there were talks and so everybody's looking at each other like who's

00:32:15.420 talking to him and then apparently they did say there are talks but i think one of them even said

00:32:20.420 there's not talks but there are negotiations which like i don't know what the difference is

00:32:25.380 so keep in mind the iranian leadership most of them have been killed there are still some around

00:32:30.580 but they don't want to use their cell phones they can't communicate with each other because when

00:32:33.840 they use their cell phones they reveal their locations they don't want to meet face to face

00:32:37.640 because if someone happens to know where one of them is, then they all get wiped out, which is

00:32:41.860 how they killed the Ali Khamenei, the Ayatollah. So they can't even communicate with each other.

00:32:49.080 So I do think that Trump is using psychological warfare in that sense. But I also think that if

00:32:54.660 he could get a deal with some faction of the Iranian regime, he would totally drive that and

00:33:00.180 say, I have a deal with Iran. And that would create massive problems for the remnants of

00:33:08.020 the Iranian regime that didn't want to end the war. And in fact, I think when Trump said,

00:33:12.120 I've already changed the regime, I think that's what he meant. He meant basically,

00:33:15.920 I think there are elements within the Iranian regime that want to do a deal with me.

00:33:20.960 And now he says they're afraid of being killed, which I think they are.

00:33:24.440 But I think if he could get, let's say, the Speaker of the Iranian Parliament to sign on to

00:33:28.380 these 15 impossible points, then I think he would say, okay, we've actually achieved regime change

00:33:34.880 because now we have someone in power in Iran who is willing to do this deal, which means that a new

00:33:41.340 force is running Iran. It's a way of intervening politically inside Iran without actually having

00:33:48.280 boots on the ground in Iran, at least military boots. We probably have some intelligence boots

00:33:53.220 there but you know i i think it was a great play but more basically on a more basic level and this

00:33:59.500 is what i told the bbc you could watch it yourself if you were in england by the way or great britain

00:34:04.220 or anywhere the bbc broadcasts i couldn't even watch the whole video they did put the video up

00:34:08.100 of the show but you can't see it outside the uk but what i said what i said was on some level trump

00:34:15.140 is just playing for time because there are several thousand marines on their way to the region and

00:34:21.420 they're not there yet so an army army now as well i think what's that i think there's an army unit

00:34:26.620 going as well yeah the 82nd airborne and i don't think it's going to be a massive mobilization i

00:34:31.020 think that's the lesson of iraq they don't want to bring a lot of troops in what i think they're

00:34:35.200 going to do and i said this again on the bbc they didn't put it on because it doesn't fit the

00:34:39.140 narrative but i said trump's basically going to take control of the strait of hormuz that land

00:34:45.620 area right around the strait the navy and he's also going to take this island called karg island

00:34:51.940 where apparently all of iran's oil passes through the island so if you control that island you

00:34:57.580 control iran's oil exporting ability and so trump basically can turn the tap on and off not just for

00:35:03.380 oil leaving iran but for money getting into iran and i think once that happens the war is over

00:35:08.920 because you don't need to do anything else the regime if it can't spend money and it can't send

00:35:12.700 oil, it can't continue. So I think that's as simple as it's going to be. And okay, I think

00:35:19.380 obviously there are lots of things we don't know. So yes, it could be more complicated than that.

00:35:23.080 But I said that on the BBC, and they're like, but how's he going to do that? And I was like,

00:35:26.680 we have a Navy. I mean, people forget how many assets we have. And anyway, I just think this is

00:35:36.540 heading in a positive direction for Trump, even though it doesn't look like it. And if you watch

00:35:40.500 cable news it'll drive you crazy and i'm i'm not again you guys were there in the beginning and

00:35:44.620 it's it's i i said it in january that i i thought a peace agreement was preferable to me anyway so

00:35:52.280 it's not like i'm i'm gung-ho for this and i've heard some people who are gung-ho like some of

00:35:55.620 the people on fox news they are saying some of the same things you heard about the iraq war and

00:35:59.860 i sort of scratched my head and i say really you would use that argument again like like that i

00:36:04.440 don't know i wouldn't i wouldn't i wouldn't go there with that with that argument but but to me

00:36:08.400 i i feel that it's clear trump probably tried to exhaust all the diplomatic alternatives and he

00:36:15.020 saw an opportunity and ironically and this gets back to domestic politics ironically it does seem

00:36:22.120 likely the democrats will win the house just because of sheer numbers and also because they

00:36:27.700 have all this enthusiasm they don't really have any issues that are working for them really well

00:36:31.280 but they have a lot of enthusiasm and it could it could it could go otherwise but ironically the

00:36:37.800 fact that trump believes he is likely to lose the house means that he's getting as much done in the

00:36:43.300 year that he can before democrats take the house so that he can achieve all of these things and

00:36:49.300 then ride it out for the last two years and do whatever he can but i think there's a sense of

00:36:53.260 urgency and that might also be why he did this because he doesn't want to be known as the

00:36:57.360 president who passed along these major problems to his successor, the way Obama passed on North

00:37:02.320 Korea. He's saying, okay, I want to deal with this and get it out of the way. So yeah. And I

00:37:06.760 would question how different it'll really be in the last two years because he can still do executive

00:37:11.280 orders. He can veto anything that makes it through Congress, which probably nothing will, because I

00:37:17.460 think the chances are still pretty good that we'll maintain control of the Senate. But even if we

00:37:21.360 didn't, they're not going to have enough to impeach him at a trial. So they might have some

00:37:26.680 more fake impeachments and waste some more time in the Senate with those trials, but

00:37:30.180 nothing really is going to happen there. And I don't really see much getting through Congress

00:37:34.980 as it is. So I don't, you know, other than maybe some more government shutdowns,

00:37:39.820 which always resolve themselves eventually. I do think what will happen is the Democrats

00:37:43.380 will take control of congressional committees. They'll subpoena everybody in the administration.

00:37:47.840 They'll shut down as much as they can through subpoenas, through oversight hearings,

00:37:52.060 and the media will eat it up, they might flood the zone too much.

00:37:56.140 You get to that laundry list problem where there are too many things to look at.

00:37:59.720 You can't actually figure out what's going wrong.

00:38:01.800 So that could happen.

00:38:03.180 But there's a chance that Republicans hold the House.

00:38:06.300 It is possible.

00:38:07.720 A lot can happen over the next several months.

00:38:09.500 And I do think that if the war is successful and the economy roars back,

00:38:14.020 and it's still doing pretty well, but if it really comes back in a big way over the summer

00:38:17.020 with the tax refunds coming soon and all the other things,

00:38:20.220 I think it's going to go very well. So again, one thing I've said publicly is I don't think

00:38:28.480 that it helps to think about midterm elections as being a response to poor performance.

00:38:33.680 In fact, the irony is the better you do in office, the more likely you might be to lose the midterms.

00:38:39.860 And that's because I have a different frame, a different filter. I actually talked to Scott

00:38:45.200 about this a little bit. My filter on understanding democracy changed after 2020.

00:38:50.220 Before 2020 and the recount, not the recount, the whole stop the steal debacle, I thought, like everybody else, elections are about counting votes and the majority wins.

00:39:04.000 And then I realized at their best, our system of elections, the way we've set it up, is not actually about counting votes because the Constitution set up a system that allowed for fraud.

00:39:16.340 It actually allowed for fraud.

00:39:17.640 the Electoral College is a way of resolving disputes when there have been fraudulent elections.

00:39:23.420 There was a massive fraudulent election. I think it was Benjamin Harrison in the late 19th century

00:39:29.100 who was elected president, even though Republicans massively cheated in Indiana in that election.

00:39:35.400 And after that happened, the country decided on nationwide voting reforms. They were done

00:39:41.580 state by state. It wasn't done federally, but they basically came up with a secret ballot out of that.

00:39:46.560 because before, when you voted, you had to walk into the polling place and tell everyone who you

00:39:50.380 were voting for. So they did that with Harrison. The Republicans in Indiana basically strong-armed

00:39:57.000 everyone into voting for Harrison. So he won Indiana, so he won the presidency, but it was

00:40:00.720 so corrupt and people knew what was going on that after that, they created the secret ballot in a

00:40:05.740 lot of states, which we've now undone through vote by mail. Vote by mail is not a secret ballot

00:40:10.700 anymore it just isn't we're not voting anymore in the same way we once did i realized that the

00:40:16.700 electoral college is this stopgap measure to have an election even when nobody can agree on who

00:40:21.900 actually won and so democracy is actually a system of taking turns it's not a system of

00:40:26.620 majority rule yes majority the sort of mechanism by which it functions you don't just get to

00:40:31.100 lose again and again and again and then govern because it's your turn but in a closely divided

00:40:35.820 society, we kind of take turns. And I think what happens is when your party does a lot in office,

00:40:42.880 the other party wants its turn. And it wants its turn more and more badly the more you do.

00:40:48.920 Now, that could also be true if you do bad things. So I think the Tea Party arose because Obama was

00:40:53.900 doing a lot of bad stuff. But it can also arise if you're doing good things. And I think you look

00:40:58.420 around the country and the secure border and the one big beautiful bill and economic growth,

00:41:04.360 low unemployment and all the fraud investigations going on, all these different things Trump is

00:41:09.840 doing. And the Democrats are looking at it and saying, why didn't we have this for four years?

00:41:14.780 We had, you know, Sleepy Joe who couldn't do anything. But why? I mean, I'll just tell you

00:41:19.000 anecdotally what I'm hearing from people in government is that even Democrats who are in

00:41:23.420 the civil service and who were inclined to help Biden, they couldn't get anything done

00:41:28.160 in government because there was no leadership in the White House. That whole idea that Biden

00:41:32.840 didn't even know he was president. I mean, it's a joke sort of, but he was put into power by his

00:41:37.260 advisors who then helped themselves to various opportunities and put various woke policies in

00:41:42.700 place, but he wasn't driving anything. And so when you don't have a leader who drives anything,

00:41:46.860 the members of the agencies don't know what to do. So Democrats got their turn after watching

00:41:51.380 Trump in the first administration. Now they want their turn again because Trump two is even more

00:41:55.520 energetic than Trump one. And I think that's the reason the midterms are likely to go to Democrats

00:41:59.720 just because they want their turn.

00:42:01.960 Now, the problem they have is that nobody likes them.

00:42:04.860 If you look at all the polls,

00:42:06.240 even though Democrats are looking likely to win the House,

00:42:09.820 their approval is through the floor.

00:42:11.980 And if you look at progressive ideology,

00:42:14.520 nobody likes it.

00:42:15.580 Nobody likes wokeism.

00:42:16.680 Nobody likes what Democrats are selling.

00:42:18.300 And this whole thing about we're going to let illegal aliens run wild

00:42:23.480 and murder people,

00:42:24.840 they haven't really changed their agenda

00:42:27.300 after losing to Trump in 2024.

00:42:29.020 for. Gavin Newsom, who's off the reservation, is the sanest among them, except maybe Josh Shapiro

00:42:35.480 as well. But even Shapiro says crazy stuff. They're just in a world of crazy, but it's not

00:42:39.860 going to matter. I think Republicans can hold on to the House if they focus on how crazy the

00:42:44.400 Democrats are. But it might not happen just because Democrats want their turn, and that's

00:42:47.480 our system, like it or not. Well, what do you think about the SAVE Act not passing? Is that

00:42:51.980 going to help hurt who's it helping and will it pass what's i give you my opinion yeah this is

00:43:01.160 not going to be it's okay pleasing to some people i don't think the save act should pass

00:43:07.280 here's why it takes a beat why i don't think the federal government should decide the rules for

00:43:16.320 our elections for federal elections um yeah i think we have to go state by state and the good

00:43:24.220 news is there are only 14 states that don't have voter id like you have to have some form of id

00:43:28.340 when you show up i think it's something like 36 states but it's not id it's it's proving that you

00:43:33.940 are um a citizen so the id thing i understand but you proof of citizenship i would love it let me

00:43:42.980 put it this way i'm going to read let me let me clarify i would love it if the save act passed

00:43:46.380 if we had a system like that i just don't want to see the filibuster thrown away and the save act

00:43:52.160 sort of imposed by the federal government because then the democrats will come in and do the same

00:43:56.760 thing when they eventually do get power remember democracy is about taking turns they're going to

00:44:00.980 get power again and they will pass hr1 which is their ridiculous california style voting bill

00:44:06.520 that nancy pelosi wanted four years ago and that will destroy our elections forever forever forever

00:44:12.780 forever. There will be ballot harvesting on a national scale. That's in the bill. There will

00:44:17.600 be all kinds of other provisions that allow for all kinds of shenanigans to go on. And once that

00:44:24.040 happens, you will never undo it. And so I think that what's happening in California, ironically,

00:44:29.800 and I mentioned some interesting stuff is happening in California. California is passing voter ID,

00:44:34.520 likely, on a ballot referendum that's being pushed by a group called Reform California,

00:44:39.900 headed by Carl DeMaio, who's a longtime Republican activist, one of the smartest guys in the state

00:44:44.720 assembly. And he's very controversial, but he's got this great idea and he's basically pushing

00:44:49.740 voter ID in California. And it looks like it's going to pass. Initially, it's even in the polls,

00:44:58.880 44 to 45, but that's only because there hasn't been any advertising yet. And also because the

00:45:03.920 people who are against it know that it's a Republican thing and that's why they oppose it.

00:45:08.100 but if you ask them in polls if they think people should have to have ID to vote, most of them say

00:45:11.820 yes. The crazy thing about the latest poll about it is that immigrants favor voter ID more than

00:45:18.260 native-born Americans in California. And Spanish-speaking immigrants favor it overwhelmingly

00:45:23.680 more than English-speaking immigrants. And it tells you that people with an experience of

00:45:29.200 corruption in other societies understand that ID is necessary. And so I think this is likely to

00:45:35.200 pass with enough energy and momentum behind it. And I think if California passes voter ID,

00:45:41.140 then other states will follow. And I think that's the model we should try to preserve,

00:45:45.260 where you go state by state, and you do this state by state, and you embarrass the states

00:45:50.620 that don't have it. So if California moves, then you're going to be left with Illinois,

00:45:55.000 New York, the places that people are leaving, okay? And I think if you can pass voter ID

00:46:01.500 on a referendum which has popular support it's preferable to having the save act pass

00:46:07.940 where you have the federal government telling people what to do and you probably have to do

00:46:12.120 this filibuster change to do it and i just feel like we're going to see democrats in power at

00:46:19.780 some point again in our lifetimes and they are going to try to ram everything down our throats

00:46:24.840 And I am a conservative small C in that regard. I really believe in preserving whatever checks and balances you have already, because I think these people are unhinged. I think they're unhinged. And they're going to try to do whatever they think Trump did. And they're going to go further. And I'm not afraid of them. But I think you have to think about the battles that are ahead.

00:46:50.200 And so I think you win this thing state by state rather than on a federal level.

00:46:55.160 Now, having said that, I think proposing the SAVE Act is a good idea because you make it clear to the country that your priorities are free and fair elections, voter ID and all the other things in the bill, and that Democrats are rejecting it.

00:47:07.520 So I think it's a useful exercise in showing the country what the choice is, just like having people stand up or sit down at the State of the Union, whether they want Americans to come before illegal aliens is a good idea.

00:47:18.460 it doesn't any laws have passed but it really tells you where people stand or sit i but i i

00:47:24.780 think that i'm hopeful that there will be change in california now if voter id fails in california

00:47:30.140 then my view will probably change then i'll say okay yeah just does the does the de mayo

00:47:37.980 proposition help in regards to because in california when you register to vote

00:47:42.220 you don't have to prove citizenship you just make you just sign an affidavit

00:47:46.620 And I think Nick Shirley did a video of how, like, they take your word for it.

00:47:51.980 I'm a citizen.

00:47:52.880 Here you go.

00:47:53.840 I'm registering to vote.

00:47:56.080 And as you know, illegal immigrants can have IDs in California and driver's licenses.

00:48:03.100 Right.

00:48:03.280 So they're requiring forms of proof that require citizenship in California.

00:48:07.360 But what's interesting, I asked Carl DeMaio, how are you going to have voter ID when two

00:48:12.420 thirds of the state votes by mail, including a lot of Republicans now?

00:48:15.440 We got used to voting by mail.

00:48:16.620 he said you choose the form of identification so either your passport or your driver's license

00:48:24.400 whatever it is but it's got to be some some form of id where you have to be a citizen to have it

00:48:28.920 and you tell the state through whatever website the last four digits so you give them like the

00:48:34.680 four digit pin and when you cast your ballot you have to have your four digit pin on your ballot

00:48:38.940 so that they and then they match that instead of this signature business because the signature

00:48:43.500 business is totally corrupt. I mean, I think they change the parameters on the machines when

00:48:49.800 they read signatures for different purposes, because they can dial it up or dial it down

00:48:53.160 how strict it is in terms of rejecting or accepting signatures. And I think for small

00:48:58.320 elections or primary elections or special elections, they're much stricter. But when

00:49:02.280 they have millions and millions and millions of people voting in a general election, I think they

00:49:05.620 lower the standards because they just don't have time to go through all those signatures more

00:49:09.560 carefully. And I think that the signature verification is almost arbitrary. And that's

00:49:15.040 why you get a situation where there are massive errors in a primary election with signature

00:49:20.680 verification. But somehow when you get to the general election, it's less than 1%. You didn't

00:49:25.220 improve the system from like 25% errors to 1% errors in like a few months. You just changed

00:49:31.660 the parameters or you changed how you measured it. That was very obvious in Arizona in 2020 with

00:49:36.880 cary lake's collection and with the you know the presidential election too that yeah um historically

00:49:42.940 every time it was like a two or two and a half percent rejection rate and then all of a sudden

00:49:46.620 it was like 0.5 and yeah and and you saw in the instructions they basically said you know don't

00:49:52.920 check it and they had evidence that like they were scanning these things and supposedly checking the

00:49:59.460 signatures but it was like doing it at like you know a thousand a second where it wasn't really

00:50:03.460 spending any time doing it right so that is consistent with a theory of fraud it's also a

00:50:09.880 consistent it's also consistent with just a theory of large numbers like we don't have time if we're

00:50:13.960 going to get the numbers in we just got to move these ballots through as soon as possible so you

00:50:17.800 know you pick whichever theory you want but my point is just signature verification is manipulable

00:50:23.640 and I don't think that the pin number is manipulable so I think Carl DeMaio has got a

00:50:29.080 cool idea, I think it might pass in California. And if it doesn't, then I do think California is

00:50:35.300 cooked. And then maybe if you're going to lose the house on the national level, then maybe you

00:50:40.180 push the SAVE Act through and you do all this stuff. I'm open to it then. But while there's

00:50:44.860 this option still of starting with California and going through the last remaining blue states that

00:50:49.780 ridiculously claim it's racist to demand ID, then I think you can do it state by state and

00:50:56.340 preserve this division of powers that prevents us from having to deal with a hyper-adrenalized,

00:51:02.560 crazy, radical, AOC-style Democrat control in the future. I mean, that's what I want to avoid for

00:51:08.660 America because I don't think we come back from that. Well, this was definitely one of Scott's

00:51:13.240 most major peeves and issues was having faith in our election system and in voting. And I don't

00:51:22.820 feel like even with this save act that is really going to change anything. I mean, to me, it should

00:51:28.700 just be like, they would say a national holiday. You have one day. I don't even know why we have

00:51:33.920 mail-in voting. Like just go vote in person, show your fricking ID. And honestly, if it's too much

00:51:40.440 for you, then don't vote. You know, like if, if you want to vote, make it happen, like show up

00:51:46.500 and vote. And somebody suggested to me like, Oh, somebody's like, I, I don't, you know, I can't get

00:51:51.860 to a poll or I don't know how to get my birth certificate. Okay, well, we'll help you. Well,

00:51:56.140 let's embrace that and amplify it and we'll help you get it. And I'll take people and show them

00:52:01.360 how, but that's not the problem. And I just, I don't understand why it can't just be one day

00:52:06.960 in person with ID, boom, done. You have all year to figure out how to make that happen and how to

00:52:12.420 get there. I have a couple more things I want to talk about very quickly. And I normally can't

00:52:19.000 stay this long but i've just decided to miss my morning meeting to be with you guys so sometimes

00:52:23.320 i think the technical delay helped me make that decision by the way i was like oh well i'm running

00:52:27.980 late anyway let me just stay longer um i want to give you guys some news first of all so i showed

00:52:33.160 you a few months ago that i started scott's biography and i'm writing it longhand okay

00:52:38.140 for the first draft there'll be a second draft and a third draft but um so this is this is what

00:52:44.580 been working on um every day six days a week um for the last two months and um

00:52:55.300 i'm at the last three well last last three pages so the last six pages really but

00:53:00.820 but um in three days i'm really neatly three three days so beautiful at the end of the month

00:53:09.300 we'll have a we'll have a draft guys don't you just want to grab it right out of his hands right

00:53:13.780 now and read it i know i'm interested to know how you end it well you'll have to wait right now no

00:53:21.540 look it's a good question um i don't think this is going to be how it ends in the final form

00:53:26.340 necessarily but the the challenge the reason i do this this way is that when you sit down

00:53:31.300 at a computer to write computers are great editing tools but they're not great writing tools

00:53:36.580 at least if you're old-fashioned i mean i'm not having ai do it you know so if you sit down at a

00:53:40.500 a computer you're you always want it to be perfect and so you you delete a lot you start over a lot

00:53:46.080 and you end up looking at a blank screen for a long time I do this longhand because I think when

00:53:50.880 you create a physical product it feels like you're making progress and then you can keep going so it

00:53:55.960 doesn't have to be perfect you know it's not going to be perfect I can't hand this in to the publisher

00:53:59.660 I've got to recopy it so I know that I'm committing to an imperfect first draft but that doesn't stop

00:54:05.680 me from going. And then I keep going. Right now, I'm just trying to wrap my hands around the

00:54:10.720 narrative. So it's chronological. And the plan I have for the last three pages, I've just reached

00:54:17.180 the point where Scott has to leave the experimental drug trial because his tumors start growing again,

00:54:25.740 and he has to go on radiation, which means he can't do the experimental trial. So basically,

00:54:30.860 i'm right up to december december last year and the last page well so the next page that i'm doing

00:54:39.060 tomorrow will probably be about his death in the last few weeks of his life and then about the

00:54:45.000 memorial service and the tributes and then i think the last two pages in other words four pages

00:54:51.240 because they're each double-sided the last four pages will be looking back at his life and career

00:54:56.360 and trying to summarize it

00:54:57.580 and understand what it meant

00:54:59.800 and what the common themes were.

00:55:01.880 And I think I need to do that

00:55:03.560 as I close this draft out.

00:55:05.400 I'm not sure that's how I'll end the book,

00:55:07.280 but I need to look back at all this

00:55:11.000 because this has been a journey for me as well.

00:55:12.740 I've learned things I didn't know,

00:55:14.320 not just by talking to people.

00:55:15.720 And by the way,

00:55:16.820 people who've wanted to talk about Scott

00:55:18.700 who have approached me,

00:55:19.660 I haven't written back to everybody

00:55:20.960 except sometimes to say thank you for writing.

00:55:23.620 I'm reaching out to you for the second draft

00:55:25.460 because that's the draft where I'm going to be filling in different things and adding details.

00:55:29.480 But I just needed to know, where is all this going?

00:55:31.340 So I learned, even just from looking back at Scott's life and some of the notes I did on interviews with him

00:55:37.200 and some of the books that he published, I had never read God's Debris, to be honest, before working on the biography.

00:55:43.460 I think, just to give you a little preview of where I'm at with summarizing it,

00:55:47.500 I actually think God's Debris is the most important book Scott wrote.

00:55:51.260 and it's not the most influential book and it's maybe not even the most useful book

00:55:58.440 but i think if you read god's debris it's the blueprint for the next 25 years of scott's life

00:56:04.540 and so you can understand everything that happened if you understand the characters

00:56:11.280 and the plot of god's debris it's almost like he visualized his future and lived it

00:56:18.240 it's absolutely incredible. And there's a detail in God's debris that blew my mind when I realized

00:56:28.280 it. And I had asked Scott before about certain details in certain books, if they were Easter

00:56:32.620 eggs, if we were meant to see something or notice something. And he said, no, but I think this one

00:56:39.000 was, I think this one was because it was so, it was so emphasized. And so I think, I think it's

00:56:47.460 going to be, I don't want to spoil the surprise. You'll, you'll have to see, you'll have to see

00:56:50.100 the biography. Um, now I'm going to give you a little, um, uh, a little emotion before, before

00:56:55.280 we're done with the hour, I guess. Um, and I, I'll tear up a little bit, but, um, the thing is when

00:57:03.800 you write the last chapter, like I was going through my messages with Scott to try to remember

00:57:08.340 just chronologically like what happened um you know he was sick he knew he was sick and he told

00:57:19.960 me and very few people knew and even though he was absolutely clear from the beginning that he

00:57:26.220 was likely to die uh he just kept reaching out and asking how he could help because he told me

00:57:31.780 was sick on december 4th 2024 and then the palisades fire happened on january 7th 2025 so

00:57:39.620 about five weeks later he just kept asking me if i needed help and i didn't i didn't you know we

00:57:47.220 we kept it together in every way and you know we kind of made it by through the skin of our teeth

00:57:52.180 but you know i just i i realized just you you don't see it in the moment you really you know

00:57:59.060 because because i don't think i don't think it dawned on us really in a full way that he was

00:58:02.840 dying i knew he was struggling with a health issue obviously with kind of a terminal diagnosis

00:58:07.480 and all that but in the moment i'm also like running literally to put out a fire and try to

00:58:12.440 move my family and all this stuff i just realized that he was thinking about other people's needs

00:58:17.100 when he had the most pressing need any of us could ever have facing a life or death situation

00:58:23.100 and it just it just again just moved me so much i was writing it yesterday i called my wife i said

00:58:30.520 i was tearing up as i was writing this thing i can't believe it just looking back on it you know

00:58:35.300 how concerned he was about my family and other friends who lived in palisades and um just just

00:58:42.400 what an extraordinary human being but that also comes out of god's debris is that scott envisioned

00:58:47.060 a role for himself in his life where he would be helping other people and it's not what you might

00:58:50.840 expect necessarily from the cartoonist who gave us Dilbert or the brilliant strategist who came up

00:58:55.340 with how to fail at everything and still win and how and win bigly and and loser think i mean

00:59:00.900 but but that was the essence of it all god's debris ties it all together in that way and you

00:59:05.900 realize that that scott's mission was to be useful to other people yeah and Dilbert was a vehicle for

00:59:12.380 doing that but but the underlying mission was to be as useful as he could be so i just the interesting

00:59:18.220 part about god's debris um i'm sorry i'm tearing up um is that he he he thought of it while in the

00:59:26.780 shower i think or something like that while he was he just got the entire book all at once which

00:59:32.860 he said that that was very different than any other book it's like it came from god you know

00:59:38.980 he didn't say god the simulation or however it is you know so i think i once asked him about

00:59:44.860 another author whose name was adams if you've read the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy

00:59:48.380 douglas douglas adams and in douglas adams's book it turns out that the earth is a giant computer

00:59:55.860 that was created by a super intelligent group of beings to try to solve the riddle of the universe

01:00:02.160 and the the i won't ruin if you haven't read the hitchhiker's guide in the whole series i won't

01:00:09.460 ruin it for you but the the experiment fails because of some things that go wrong with the

01:00:15.380 computer but the one person who seems to know what the answer is where the experiment might not have

01:00:21.980 failed just has a moment of inspiration and it's almost like douglas adams kind of hints that

01:00:26.780 when the computer was done with its calculation it sort of expressed itself to this person this

01:00:31.340 woman and she doesn't really say what the what the answer is you never quite you never quite find out

01:00:37.560 And you don't even know if it's the right one because the computer wasn't working properly.

01:00:40.980 But I think that those moments do happen.

01:00:44.200 I mean, I think Scott would relate to that, that if we're in a simulation, that sometimes the calculation just produces a result.

01:00:52.060 And so you can look at it as God giving him a message or suddenly the program has now reached its run for however many years and now it's put out the output of the program.

01:01:01.900 um i want to say one more thing and i don't want to trivialize any of the sort of heavy stuff we

01:01:07.360 were talking about but um i feel like it's important just to talk about only because

01:01:11.320 what's going on in my world right now and uh and scott cared about animals so i think he'll excuse

01:01:16.560 he'll excuse this uh diversion into pets but i don't have dogs or cats but but my kids

01:01:23.140 have a hamster and uh we had this hamster from july 2024 until sadly this morning when the

01:01:30.540 hamster died oh my gosh you know hamster is a really it's a rodent it's a small animal

01:01:36.240 and the kids were sad I'm not at home so I didn't experience it firsthand but

01:01:42.020 she was getting kind of slow in the last month or so and and my wife just found her not moving

01:01:46.960 this morning and I said you know we had that hamster at the peak of our life in our home

01:01:55.540 in palisades before the fire and then we rescued her when we evacuated and then she moved from

01:02:01.120 house to house with us and then we took her on the plane when we moved we moved across the country

01:02:08.320 i'm crying over hamster we moved across the country and then the hamster got out of her

01:02:14.620 cage in my parents house in chicago and the kids were devastated and then they found her we we kind

01:02:18.600 of used logic to find where would you go if you were a hamster we found her in the warm space

01:02:24.260 between the drying machine and the wall and and she was hiding there because she was warm and then

01:02:29.760 she was desperately thirsty and we gave her water and she recovered and then she came with us to DC

01:02:35.140 and and all this and I said you know this hamster was kind of there in a way as part of our

01:02:44.720 transition through this whole emergency situation that we're still living in and I feel like our

01:02:51.220 journey is a journey back home. I really, I really feel that, but you know, you lose some things on

01:02:58.620 the way and some, and some things are not restored, right? Some things you grieve and you are going to

01:03:04.000 lose some things even when you get back home. And I think that that's something I've also had to

01:03:08.300 think about. And I think that that is also something we think about with Scott, that, that

01:03:15.120 this program and other programs are so important to keeping his legacy alive. And yet there's

01:03:21.120 also just the part of it that's just grief and you know it doesn't leave you but that's also

01:03:29.140 part of being alive and scott said a reframe of death was not seeing death as being sad but being

01:03:39.360 glad that the life happened and um you know that's why we do this and it's also you know just how all

01:03:48.220 of us are going to go and and i think it's good for my kids to experience a death that was natural

01:03:53.920 you know because um before scott died they lost their grandmother to cancer and we've lost other

01:04:01.100 people to sudden medical emergencies and you know when i was a kid i lost pets to accidents you know

01:04:08.100 dogs running into the street and getting hit by cars more than once and um it's something to see

01:04:14.660 out the term of a life, right? Someone comes into your life and they spend time in your life and

01:04:18.860 then they're not there anymore. And a hamster lifespan is two years. This hamster lived the

01:04:23.940 lifespan of a hamster. What was his name? Button. Hamster was Button. And I just think it's healthy

01:04:33.760 for children to understand and also healthy maybe for adults to understand that this is how we all

01:04:40.680 are and we all have a mission and even this little hamster in its own small way had a mission which

01:04:47.260 was to be a companion for my children a constant presence when everything around them was changing

01:04:53.220 and i think scott understood his mission and you know um i don't know what my mission is honestly

01:05:02.600 i i ask myself but you know i think the only way to know is is to find out that's true anyway so

01:05:09.420 this has been, uh, I've had a lot to say from, from the warranty on to the biography, to the

01:05:14.340 hamster, but, um, I'm really grateful that you guys are, are here. And, uh, and this was, this

01:05:19.900 was a, a, a deeper interaction than I had anticipated and I'm grateful for it. I'm grateful

01:05:25.340 for it too. Difficulties have a purpose too. Yeah. I mean some, you know, okay. So Joel,

01:05:35.100 Well, I told you, like, I just feel so connected to you after the memorial and we had that

01:05:41.840 talk together.

01:05:42.880 And I think sometimes you just need to remember that, you know, we're still going through

01:05:48.960 it and I feel so bad that you have to write these next pages.

01:05:54.500 It's going to be so hard.

01:05:56.460 So I'll be thinking about you.

01:06:00.060 And just thank you so much for sharing everything you share with us and coming on here and to

01:06:04.720 everybody that shows up you know i always say it's you know it's for scott you know we're here

01:06:10.080 because of scott for scott to just keep it going um so this is the first time i've gone over on a

01:06:19.560 show for good reason sorry no i mean i i listen it's just so you're amazing and i always say that

01:06:28.320 you're the perfect person to be writing this biography i could not even imagine anyone else

01:06:32.680 doing it because the amount of respect and care that you have for Scott and who he was and who

01:06:40.520 he will be going forward in this world, you're the perfect, perfect person to write this. So

01:06:45.280 I think everybody's kind of going through stuff and we're not alone. We're not alone. We're all

01:06:53.520 going through stuff and we can all lean on each other. We have the book to look forward to,

01:06:58.840 which I can't wait to hold it in my hands and just be like, oh my God, here's a whole book,

01:07:05.240 you guys, that we'll be able to absorb about R. Scott. And I can't wait. I can't wait. So

01:07:12.480 Joel, thank you so much for coming on and for answering my texts this morning and for giving

01:07:18.940 us all this time. We could never thank you enough. Thanks, everyone. It's always good to be with you.

01:07:26.300 Same.

01:07:27.200 All right, you guys, let's have a closing sip to Scott and Marcella and Owen.

01:07:31.960 I love you guys so much.

01:07:32.980 I love everybody in the chat.

01:07:34.520 We will be back tomorrow.

01:07:36.780 And let's please be useful.

01:07:39.400 We are Scott's Debris.

01:07:40.640 Let's get out there.

01:07:41.380 And if you haven't read God's Debris, now's the time.

01:07:44.060 All right.

01:07:44.540 To Scott and to all of you, be useful.

01:07:46.740 Bye, everybody.

01:07:53.020 Thank you, Joel.

01:07:55.600 Thank you.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - March 26, 2026

Episode 3123 - The Scott Adams School 03⧸26⧸26

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