Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 808 Scott Adams： Super Pole Dancing, Iowa, #BloombergBox Sales, Brainwashed vs Lying

00:00:00.000 wake up everybody wake up I know you had an excellent Super Bowl Sunday but now

00:00:18.000 it's Monday it's time to get serious with coffee with Scott Adams you came to

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00:00:46.960 one go mmm super bullish I must say so whether you cared or didn't about the

00:01:01.720 Super Bowl it did produce some news failed some interesting things anyway let's

00:01:06.820 talk about those number one is it a coincidence that Trump keeps winning and

00:01:13.420 not only does Trump keep winning even things that are sort of loosely

00:01:20.600 associated with him keep winning because if you've got a Super Bowl that's Kansas

00:01:26.100 City middle of the country sort of you know Trump territory essentially against

00:01:32.920 San Francisco Pelosi territory everything's really about politics now isn't

00:01:39.260 it it it's sort of all about politics even if you don't want it to be even if

00:01:43.760 it's not supposed to be it is now I missed the opening but correct me if I'm

00:01:49.760 wrong I don't believe anybody was kneeling for the national anthem am I right

00:01:56.240 fact check me on that I don't believe anybody was kneeling that's sort of a

00:02:01.420 Trump victory took a while but there we are so Trump and Trumpism sort of gets

00:02:09.240 the win over San Francisco I had I confessed having mixed loyalties there now I

00:02:16.080 have to tell you I don't know anything about football you know I used to watch

00:02:22.320 it I don't watch it anymore it's the only game I watched this year was the

00:02:26.340 Super Bowl I didn't know the name of the quarterback for Kansas City until the

00:02:31.000 game itself I wasn't sure about the name of San Francisco's quarterback until the

00:02:36.360 playoffs recently so I came into this with no knowledge whatsoever turned it on a

00:02:42.080 few minutes into the game and I watched Haram is that his name Haram who is it was

00:02:50.080 the quarterback for the Kansas City I forget Haram Haram anyway I watched him throw one 1.00

00:02:58.200 pass and from that one pass I just said to myself I don't think San Francisco is going to win because

00:03:08.600 just watching that one pass I just thought to myself I don't think that looks normal I don't

00:03:13.920 know that much about football but whoever threw that thing is not like the others so I did think San

00:03:21.860 Francisco was going to win when they were ahead but when I saw that guy's arm I

00:03:27.040 thought I don't know how you beat that he looked pretty good Mahomes thank you

00:03:31.760 anyway everybody's jabbering about the halftime show and 0.91

00:03:36.680 Jenny from lock JLo and Shakira did a little bit too sexy pole dancing crotch grabbing rendition 1.00

00:03:49.860 of their act leaving many people with conflicting feelings I have to admit it's not exactly what

00:04:00.660 you want to be watching with your kids you know I mean it doesn't bother me personally but I totally

00:04:07.200 get how other people would be bothered by it so I acknowledge that and it was interesting in terms

00:04:15.780 of what it says about the country and about where our heads are etc I think they got away with it

00:04:23.580 meaning that you know Jennifer Lopez and Shakira are just so well-loved and popular and whatever

00:04:33.640 they can kind of get away with what people other people couldn't get away with so I thought it was

00:04:41.080 a great show I have to tell you I saw Jennifer Lopez live performing in Las Vegas within the past year

00:04:48.100 and you watch her perform live for I don't know how long the show is an hour or whatever it is

00:04:54.600 and for an hour she's doing intense physical activity dancing and singing and when you see her

00:05:02.140 actually sort of in person meaning you're in the audience and you know there's there's no camera

00:05:07.520 between you and her and the whole time you're thinking what does she do for her fitness that she 0.99

00:05:15.220 can look like that and do that it's honestly the most watching her in person at her at her current age

00:05:23.940 doing what she does looking the way she does it doesn't even seem real I do not know how she could 0.59

00:05:31.400 because she doesn't look like she had a lot of plastic surgery you know one assumes that everybody at that

00:05:36.720 levels getting a little bit of work but she doesn't show signs of it I would say that you almost have

00:05:44.680 to see Jennifer Lopez as an athlete more as much as an entertainer as an athlete is really impressive

00:05:53.480 what she's managed to you know do and get out of her her physicality is just really really impressive 0.97

00:06:00.020 so I'm a big fan and maybe it was a little too sexy but we'll get over it all right let's talk about

00:06:06.280 the Bloomberg box you may have noted already yesterday I did a Super Bowl commercial

00:06:13.500 for my invention the Bloomberg box it's an actual box that you can stand on to even things up if you

00:06:21.960 are not quite debate height now as luck would have it I think I'm almost exactly the same height as

00:06:29.700 Bloomberg so I think I'm supposed to be I'm 5 foot 8 so I think I'm supposed to be insulted by all this

00:06:36.860 talk of shortness I'm not it just seems funny to me so the whole thing is just a little bit silly

00:06:47.160 certainly I don't think that Bloomberg's height stopped him from earning 56 billion dollars and

00:06:55.380 becoming Bloomberg so obviously it's not real it's not a real issue but it is something that would

00:07:01.980 probably matter if he stood on the stage now here's the funny part uh Trump is playing the he creates

00:07:10.720 this rumor so that everybody has to fact check it and I want I want to read to you his exact quote on

00:07:16.720 this I guess it was in his interview yesterday it's just so funny that he does this because you know

00:07:23.020 it's intentional and remember when he would do this you know three years ago and I would be the only

00:07:30.180 person who would say no this isn't what you think this is actually going to work and then it would work

00:07:36.700 and people would say oh didn't didn't see that coming only that cartoonist said that but this time

00:07:43.100 he does this play that he's done so many times where he puts this little little piece of fake news

00:07:48.960 into the consciousness and he makes everybody fact check it so that we're only talking about that

00:07:53.900 so Piers Morgan called this out in a tweet you know noting that it had to be considered genius at this

00:08:01.120 point because he's just so good at it he's so good at this thing so here's his exact words

00:08:07.080 he goes quote uh you know now he wants a box for that debates to stand on Trump said okay it's okay

00:08:15.620 there's nothing wrong you can be short I love the fact that Trump says it's okay to be short

00:08:23.440 there's nothing wrong with that you can be short thank you for that permission uh why should he get a box

00:08:29.620 to stand on okay why should he get a box to stand on he wants a box he wants a box for the debates

00:08:39.580 now it's even funnier when you put it into into his his mind like it's just something he wants

00:08:45.620 you know not only does it not exist and it didn't happen but now it's something he wants so he's he's

00:08:51.600 deepening the the rumor why should he be entitled to that why should he be entitled it's really bad

00:08:59.720 entitlement now let's talk about entitlement why should he be entitled to that really does that mean

00:09:07.020 everyone else gets a box I would love to run against Bloombergans why is he entitled to that

00:09:18.740 does that mean everybody else gets a box

00:09:21.660 it would be hilarious you know it would be hilarious

00:09:27.300 is if Bloomberg didn't get a box no I don't know because I think they do that right if you have a

00:09:33.860 shorter candidate I think that's a real thing hasn't that been done before for maybe

00:09:38.620 Hillary Clinton maybe Klobuchar or somebody else but what would stop I'm just asking what would stop

00:09:47.880 Trump from demanding his own box nothing right there's nothing that would stop Trump from saying

00:09:56.080 well this should be a level playing field we're not trying to fool the audience the whole point of

00:10:01.800 the debate is to show the audience who we are so if everything's supposed to be equal

00:10:07.360 Trump gets a box now is there anything that would make you laugh harder than finding out

00:10:15.960 that Bloomberg got a box and then Trump demanded his own box I don't know if I could ever stop

00:10:22.580 laughing that would be the funniest thing I'd ever seen in my life and the funniest thing is that his

00:10:27.140 argument would be pretty good all right the argument that everybody should be treated the same

00:10:32.100 and it's their own fault if they have a look it's their own you know it's nobody else's fault if

00:10:37.280 somebody's taller than someone else somebody's saying uh Julian Castro had a box so I would love to see

00:10:45.420 uh Trump demand a box but here's the funny part now the all the networks everybody had to fact check

00:10:53.040 him and of course they fact checked it and found out there was absolutely no rumor to it whatsoever

00:10:58.020 now there's a new rumor that that Bloomberg is really angry about this

00:11:02.800 I doubt it I mean it's possible but I kind of doubt that of all the things that Bloomberg has to

00:11:10.960 worry about in a day I don't think he's really worried about the box thing but now there's this

00:11:15.820 new rumor that he's furious about it I never believe any of those kinds of rumors because you hear these

00:11:21.900 about Trump all the time Trump was furious about this or that or whatever and then you think to

00:11:28.180 yourself probably not probably not he probably mentioned it so Bloomberg you know may not love it but I

00:11:35.180 doubt he's furious about it or anything like that so I wouldn't trust that reporting now here's the funny

00:11:40.700 thing as a prank I want to see if we can persuade this box into reality and by persuaded into reality I

00:11:51.120 don't mean that there will be an actual real box I mean that we will use persuasion until

00:11:57.400 everybody thinks there's a box just as an experiment now the experiment is based on trying to repeat the

00:12:05.080 experiment that CNN and MSNBC do on a regular basis in which they ignore the facts that don't that don't

00:12:14.160 agree with the reporting and just continue talking as though they had not been debunked now how many times

00:12:20.440 have you seen this for example the you know the fine people hoax has been debunked a billion times

00:12:26.940 but they still just act like it hasn't instead of addressing the debunking they just act like it

00:12:33.660 didn't happen when uh-huh when Dershowitz corrected their reporting about what he said during the impeachment

00:12:43.580 presentation Dershowitz goes on CNN and says no you're taking a word out of context I didn't say

00:12:51.580 anything like that this is what I said and you can check the transcript yourself to see in the full

00:12:57.320 context it's very clear what I said you are reporting it wrong what did Wolf Blitzer do when the guy who is

00:13:04.960 the only person who knows for sure what Alan Dershowitz said and meant meaning Alan Dershowitz

00:13:10.620 corrects them in the most unambiguous way what does CNN do they just acted like it didn't happen and

00:13:18.600 then continue talking the way they were talking so I would like to give you a one-act play

00:13:23.900 in which I will be talking to Dale the anti-Trumper and convincing him through my powers of persuasion

00:13:31.980 that the box exists Dale you've heard the story that Bloomberg's going to stand on that box

00:13:40.740 you know do you think that's fair Scott Scott Scott there is no box that is fake news something 0.85

00:13:48.240 your president does he lies he lies like a lying liar he made it up there is no truth to it Bloomberg 0.60

00:13:54.960 has confirmed there is no box every single network has confirmed there is no box Scott no box 0.99

00:14:02.560 what color is the box what the hell are you talking about I just told you there's no box

00:14:11.640 you can't have a color on a box that doesn't exist no box Bloomberg says there's no box every

00:14:17.460 report it says no box no box no box it doesn't exist

00:14:21.060 who's paying for this box what is happening now what is happening I keep telling you it's fake news

00:14:30.500 there's no box there's no box the box does not exist

00:14:35.300 Dale do you think it's fair that Bloomberg gets a box and Trump doesn't get a box what's fair about that

00:14:44.920 scene so no matter what anybody says about the box just as a prank just as a prank look at them

00:15:04.240 expressionlessly and ask a question about the box it'll be hilarious don't don't ever leave character

00:15:13.160 no matter no matter who you're talking to when they tell you the box doesn't exist just look

00:15:19.420 right at them and ask them about a detail about the box it will make them crazy funniest thing ever

00:15:25.800 all right go forward so I created my Super Bowl commercial in which I was selling the Bloomberg box

00:15:33.380 my product which you just saw which by the way it has more than one use it can be used as something to

00:15:41.900 stand on but is also can be used by Antifa as kind of a kind of a mask so you can use the box if you're

00:15:51.800 attending an Antifa rally and nobody will know who you are they might think you're Mike Bloomberg if

00:15:57.500 they're not very observant but it has multiple uses I don't make products that are only good for one

00:16:03.500 thing so I've got about 76,000 views on that looks like it's going semi-viral so that's good

00:16:10.120 on other news I think this is fascinating I've talked about it before but according to a poll

00:16:18.280 Warren supporters said they would all basically 90% of them would support whoever gets nominated if it's

00:16:27.160 not Warren so in other words Warren has very soft support their supporters prefer her but if they have

00:16:35.440 to go to second or third choice that's okay 90% of them would do it Yang supporters are at 42% would

00:16:42.820 not support the Democrat if it's not Yang 42% of them now that's 42% of a small number but I wonder 0.99

00:16:51.120 what those people say when they get polled you know I wonder if Yang supporters are just sort of

00:16:57.680 breaking the polling because I don't know who they are are they people who have never voted before

00:17:03.880 because there was never anybody who spoke to them are they people who won't vote you know are they young

00:17:09.820 people who when it comes to election day they're like yeah it wasn't Yang I just don't care I'm not

00:17:14.480 going to vote at all or is it is it Trump supporters who've lost faith and gone over to Yang for some

00:17:22.100 reason I don't know who they are so I think we have to understand this a lot better than we do

00:17:30.260 all right let's talk about so CNN and MSNBC are running this persuasion play in which they're having 0.96

00:17:39.440 all their their dumbest pundits and really it's the dumb ones there's no way to be nice about this 0.99

00:17:46.020 Philip Nance have you ever seen Philip Nance he I don't think he's dumb necessarily but he's 1.00

00:17:53.780 he just goes on TV and he will say absolutely anything so he and others who are equally let's say 0.51

00:18:03.740 non-credible are saying that we've just learned that President Trump wants to be a king

00:18:08.780 and they're all using that word a king he thinks he's a king he's above the law he wants to be a

00:18:14.480 king king king king and they're trying to sell this into existence and I'm thinking to myself

00:18:21.240 you have really run out of material man have you run out of material if what you've got left

00:18:29.120 is we're reading his mind and we think he wants to be a king 0.86

00:18:33.360 you've got nothing left that is the most ridiculous complaint it doesn't ring true on any level 0.55

00:18:41.320 and if Democrats are buying into this that says something about them that's not good 0.54

00:18:48.080 all right here's a fun question for you for your Democrat friends who are opposed to Trump's wall

00:18:55.760 I want I want somebody to report back to me after trying this experiment find find an anti-Trumper or 0.73

00:19:03.940 Democrat who is very opposed to strong immigration and especially somebody and here's the key

00:19:11.960 somebody who is opposed to the what was called the Muslim ban but was really a ban on countries that

00:19:17.560 didn't have good systems for identification which ended up being a lot of Muslim countries now that's

00:19:24.540 been expanded I don't know what percentage are Muslim countries now but most of your Democrats

00:19:31.080 would say and still say that President Trump is only closing the borders because the people are

00:19:38.660 Muslims so he's he's discriminating against Muslims now find a person like that somebody who holds that

00:19:47.600 view and ask them how that's different from the travel ban on China to prevent the coronavirus because

00:19:56.660 in both cases you are punishing a large segment of people who you know to be innocent you know you

00:20:04.560 know that 99% of the Chinese travelers don't have any virus you know that so why are you punishing 99% of

00:20:13.200 the Chinese travelers just to prevent the risk that the one percent might bring in now how is that 1.00

00:20:19.560 different from the ban on countries many of them are Muslim majority or most or all I don't know what

00:20:26.420 it is but how is that different because we also believe that the Muslims coming in are 99% or more

00:20:33.020 completely innocent have every right to immigrate like everybody else does but the one percent or less 0.99

00:20:40.560 whatever it is might be very dangerous how exactly are those two situations different now I always

00:20:49.080 warn you not to do persuasion by analogy so yeah somebody says good analogy so analogies don't win

00:20:57.060 arguments you're not going to change anybody's mind with this analogy trust me it's not going to

00:21:02.240 change anybody's mind but it's an experiment see if you can get somebody to walk through the risk

00:21:08.500 and management of it because those who do not think that the ban on countries is based on racism and I don't

00:21:19.280 I don't believe it's based on racism I look at it as risk management so to me it looks exactly the same

00:21:27.300 as the virus thing it's just a risk management it's based on not being able to identify the risk within a population

00:21:34.240 all right so do that it'll be fun and let me know let me know what your democrat says when you

00:21:40.340 when you try that did you see the there was a I think there might have been two trump ads

00:21:47.440 on the super bowl uh one of them in particular uh mentioned that uh trump has made the country what

00:21:55.700 stronger and safer he talks about the economy and he shows some military stuff I think the two words

00:22:02.640 were stronger and safer those are really good strong and safe and he can back it up I don't believe

00:22:11.120 there would be anybody who would disagree that our military got stronger everybody would agree with

00:22:16.780 that and that our economy got stronger so when the president says we're stronger and safer those are

00:22:23.680 really basic needs I mean that really goes down to you know your biological requirement now think of

00:22:33.980 that this trump ad quite quite well done I'm not going to say it's the best ad they'll ever make but

00:22:41.620 it's it's really it's in the top shelf right it's it's in the category of some of the great ones

00:22:47.140 maybe not the greatest but the stronger and safer think how how basic and biological that is

00:22:54.120 compare that to uh lesser lesser candidates uh offerings which I think you'll see such as

00:23:03.240 uh we can't have that trump he is dividing us sort of a concept he's dividing us yeah okay well

00:23:11.900 what's that mean to you like how does that change your life I don't know in fact the uh apparently

00:23:18.940 the polls should show exactly the opposite the polls show that racism has gone way down since trump

00:23:25.400 became president did you know that by the way uh fact check me on that but I believe the polls show

00:23:31.820 that how we feel about race has improved substantially since trump became president you didn't see that coming

00:23:39.860 did you uh I did because I think those things improved no matter what generally speaking Obama

00:23:47.160 was kind of a blip because you know some people got excited because there was a you know we had a black 0.95

00:23:53.200 president so that that uh inflamed things for a while but uh apparently the the arc is that we're

00:24:01.940 just getting better on this stuff historically pretty much all the time and I think that will continue

00:24:07.480 um so here's what I loved about the ad so first of all it was basic and biological got right to what

00:24:13.740 matters to you it also works really well for women it works really well for anybody who feels 0.98

00:24:20.160 vulnerable if you feel vulnerable in any way you want to know that we're stronger and safer

00:24:26.480 and that we're looking out for you okay but here's the brilliant part that I don't know if anybody caught

00:24:34.000 if you're trump you're trying to do something that's kind of a fine line

00:24:38.720 you're trying to win black voters you're trying to win hispanic voters you're trying to win

00:24:43.620 uh female voters right because those are the weaknesses for uh trump's supporters 1.00

00:24:49.960 but it's not really a republican thing to just go out and pander so the republicans are not good at

00:24:58.640 saying hey black people vote for me i will give you some stuff republicans don't like to sell that

00:25:05.540 way right because that gets into identity politics it's it's it's opposite the brand so if you can't

00:25:12.600 call out a group but you still want to appeal to them how do you do it and this ad is subtly

00:25:20.800 subtly brilliant if you didn't catch this here's what they did at the end of the ad uh where there's

00:25:28.260 some talk about employment being great somebody who says something employment for everybody is good

00:25:34.660 and then the next voice you don't see who is talking but you can tell from the voice in all

00:25:40.760 likelihood it's a white woman newscaster all right now i'm not don't get into the argument about whether

00:25:48.800 you can always tell somebody's ethnicity from hearing their voice yes yes i know you can't always tell

00:25:54.540 but remember an ad is just giving you a quick impression of things it's not about reality

00:25:59.980 so the impression which probably is right but could not be right it's possible it's not

00:26:05.020 was that the sound of a white woman talking a voiceover says that black unemployment is the best 0.97

00:26:13.640 it's been in 49 years or whatever right so here's here's the clever part it was a white woman 1.00

00:26:19.540 applauding black employment improving and then the very next voice is uh actually they showed

00:26:28.500 showed it um was a black man newscaster on fox applauding hispanic employment so you see what they did

00:26:37.720 there it was kind of subtle in both cases they had somebody who was not in the in group yeah it was

00:26:45.500 charles payne so charles payne an african-american man he was talking his little clip is about hispanic

00:26:53.700 employment being good now i'm sure that that if you saw the whole clip he probably talked about

00:26:58.620 employment in general and black unemployment too but what was brilliant about this that i absolutely

00:27:05.420 loved is that they had people celebrating the other group do you see how powerful that is

00:27:12.620 so we had a white woman celebrating black employment improving and a black man a very successful black

00:27:21.020 man applauding hispanic uh um employment do you see how powerful that is it's really really strong

00:27:30.020 and it's invisible like you could watch that commercial and it would just it would just go past you

00:27:35.300 it's super clever and you know it's intentional too i mean one assumes it's intentional because it's

00:27:42.520 too good to be accidental in all likelihood all right uh here's a fun topic i save for the end

00:27:49.240 um people ask me how can you tell if somebody is brainwashed let's say for a political party 0.96

00:27:55.680 versus they're just lying how can you tell the brainwashed versus lying versus they're just ignorant

00:28:02.500 versus they have a legitimate opinion and it just happens to disagree with yours how can you sort

00:28:09.300 them out and i suggested the other day uh a way to do that now this is not a hundred percent defective

00:28:16.660 you know there will be exceptions and overlap etc but these are good starting places for your suspicion

00:28:22.580 all right if somebody is brainwashed meaning they literally believe something and don't have reasons

00:28:30.100 that's what it means to be brainwashed they have a belief and it's a strong belief but it's not based

00:28:35.720 on facts and reasons the way you can determine it is if you get into a conversation with them and you

00:28:41.040 give them a counter argument that you think is good a brainwashed person's response will sound crazy

00:28:48.720 it'll sound crazy now what is not crazy would be somebody has wrong facts it's not crazy to have wrong

00:28:56.860 facts right somebody has bad logic well that's not crazy there are lots of people who are not

00:29:02.580 good at logic right so there are lots of things that would disagree with you that you would not

00:29:07.720 you would you would not process as just being crazy but cognitive dissonance which is what happens when a

00:29:15.380 brainwashed person is challenged with the facts cognitive dissonance is literally where you're cobbling

00:29:21.480 together your reality and patching it up with something that only makes sense to you so that

00:29:28.700 when somebody is the observer and they see you in cognitive dissonance the things you say don't even

00:29:35.320 make sense they they just sound like crazy talk so that's the tell for a brainwashed person who's been

00:29:42.440 presented with a superior argument it's actually crazy talk now compare that to someone who's just a

00:29:49.120 partisan somebody who's just a democrat or they're just a republican and it doesn't matter what you're

00:29:55.180 going to say i'm going to support my team how can you tell that person because that person is actually

00:30:00.600 aware when they're lying it's a big difference the brainwashed people can't tell when they're

00:30:06.860 they're departing from reality they don't have the ability but a lying partisan well they know when

00:30:13.760 they're lying they know when they're avoiding the topic and if you corner somebody who's a partisan

00:30:19.040 and they're just a liar what do they do well most often they change the topic they say well your team 0.65

00:30:28.500 did this too that's that's changing the topic or they say well what about the other thing that's 0.98

00:30:34.220 changing the topic so liars who don't want to act like they're crazy because nobody wants to act crazy

00:30:41.960 all right nobody does that intentionally it would be rare if they did i suppose somebody could but

00:30:47.920 the the people the cognitive dissonance people the ones who are brainwashed they're not choosing to be

00:30:53.880 crazy that's just what cognitive dissonance does to you it just makes you say things that are 0.73

00:31:00.020 irrational the partisan liar is just going to change the subject so that's your big tell for a liar versus 0.99

00:31:05.460 brainwashed what about ignorant people what about somebody who just didn't have the information that you 0.94

00:31:11.100 have and therefore you disagree on some policy but once you fill in the gap they end up being 0.93

00:31:18.960 converted to one of the other two things if somebody is only operating out of ignorance and you fill in

00:31:25.160 the ignorance you know you tell them the facts that they're missing they usually don't change their

00:31:30.500 mind because people don't like changing the mind you will end up converting them into either a brainwashed 0.95

00:31:37.160 person who starts babbling crazy talk or a partisan liar they'll know they're wrong but they'll just support 0.93

00:31:43.460 their team anyway so the ignorant can be fixed but it doesn't win the argument for you it just converts them 0.96

00:31:50.020 into a liar or a brainwashed person so what does a legitimate disagreement look like what does it look like 0.92

00:31:57.900 when somebody disagrees with you but you know maybe you don't like their argument but you say to yourself

00:32:03.580 okay they're not brainwashed they're not lying this is actually their their actual belief it's reasonable

00:32:08.760 i just disagree here's how you can tell a legitimate debater can describe your argument accurately

00:32:19.440 in other words you can say to that person all right tell me what you think i'm saying can you can you

00:32:25.660 restate my argument and if they can they're not brainwashed and they're not ignorant and they're not

00:32:34.700 partisan liars they're probably legitimate people who just want to figure stuff out so that's a really

00:32:41.660 good way to tell if you're talking to somebody who's legitimate can you describe my argument in your

00:32:47.900 words and if you notice that in most public conversation people will mischaracterize your

00:32:55.760 argument and argue against the the so-called straw man the argument you never made so just ask people

00:33:02.180 directly instead of just having them debate you say can you just stop right here can you put in your

00:33:07.400 own words describe my argument in a way that when i hear it i'll say yeah that's it you got it

00:33:13.260 and most people can't do that because legitimate disagreements are actually kind of rare they're kind of

00:33:21.420 rare all right um so those are the main um a lot of people are mentioning uh juan on the five

00:33:34.940 juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan juan ju

00:34:04.940 four members of the five had an opinion and Juan said, you know, in this case, I just

00:34:10.060 agree with you. It's sort of his job. It's what he gets paid for to give the opposite

00:34:16.580 opinion. So I don't know if you can make too much of the fact that he disagrees with people.

00:34:26.920 There's just no conclusion you can make from that. Because, yeah, somebody says Juan does

00:34:31.780 a good job. I would say that the reason that Juan has that very high level job is that

00:34:37.360 he does a good job, meaning that his role in the five is exactly, he has exactly the

00:34:44.760 right kind of energy, charisma, personality that just fits really well with those other

00:34:52.160 people and the little, let's say, entertaining friction that they have. So he's a really

00:34:58.980 good choice for the show. I will say that. All right. What about all this Biden versus

00:35:11.400 Bernie stuff? I have a real question about the Bernie supporters and about Biden. Now we're

00:35:19.500 hearing more people are imagining that Biden is going to fall off a shelf. And there's

00:35:26.120 something that we get to check. So there's a theory of how the world works, which I happen

00:35:35.000 to subscribe to, that we're going to get to check. It goes like this. I don't believe

00:35:41.620 that the democratic convention and nomination process is legitimate. I don't believe that.

00:35:50.380 I believe that there are powerful people in a variety of roles and jobs, probably loosely

00:35:59.160 or maybe not loosely connected with the Clintons and the Obama world, etc. You know, sort of

00:36:05.040 a world in which a lot of them know each other. And that in a variety of ways, they're going

00:36:13.500 to get to decide who is the candidate. Now they can manipulate it by changing rules, by

00:36:20.020 changing funding, I don't know, probably a whole bunch of variables that they have. Super

00:36:25.540 delegates, as somebody said, a broker convention. So they have lots of tools. You know, let's

00:36:31.280 say the, the, the, is it deep state, the sort of career Democrats, they have lots of tools

00:36:37.600 to keep somebody like Bernie out of office. But it does seem that Bernie is doing the best

00:36:44.840 in terms of getting voter support. So if Bernie is killing it in the polls, and he doesn't

00:36:55.140 get the nomination, that should confirm to you that it's a rigged process. Now, the last time Bernie

00:37:02.200 got sort of pushed out of the nomination process by Clinton supporters, we all said that's a rigged

00:37:10.620 process. And we were right, right? I mean, it was clearly looked like a rigged process in 2016 to me

00:37:17.720 for the Democrats. So if it happens again, I feel like that's a confirmation, don't you? That our

00:37:25.720 system is completely broken, and that whatever you think were the Democrats are just a, some kind of a

00:37:33.700 cartel or mob situation. So if the Democrats are more of a mob, mafia kind of situation where a few

00:37:43.820 people are deciding what's happening, and we just find out about it later, don't expect Bernie to get

00:37:49.940 the nomination. Now, I suppose it's possible he could have so much support, it would be impossible

00:37:55.700 to rig the system. And I think that's what Trump did. I think what Trump did was he probably would

00:38:02.840 have been shut out of the system if he'd been less popular, but he just made himself impossible to

00:38:07.860 ignore and popular enough that the rigging, had there been any, just wouldn't work. He was still

00:38:14.540 too popular. We'll see if Bernie can achieve that, but I think he can't. I would expect, so here's what

00:38:21.460 I'm still predicting. I'm predicting that wobbly Biden will, you know, sort of stumble across the finish

00:38:30.700 line because he'll have the support of the insiders. But the insiders will not really be supporting

00:38:36.700 Biden. This is my hypothesis and prediction. They will really be supporting what power they will have

00:38:43.340 in a Biden presidency. And one of the main levers that I would imagine that they would want is to have

00:38:50.040 their own vice president, somebody stronger than the president, who can really be the power and maybe take

00:38:57.440 over as soon as Biden fails completely. Because remember, Biden could just quit. Biden could win the

00:39:03.820 presidency, serve for a month, and then tell us, you know, I don't feel so good. I think my vice

00:39:10.940 president needs to take over. That's why I picked such a good one. Totally possible. Because, you know,

00:39:18.680 we haven't seen somebody that age and that wobbly looking become president. So under those conditions,

00:39:25.640 I would expect Bernie to lose, Biden to win, and Biden to fade either before election day or soon after,

00:39:32.580 so that the vice president chosen by the machine, the real people in power, can get their power back.

00:39:40.740 That's the plan, I would think. All right. Somebody says, please don't say Kamala. It makes me sick.

00:39:48.640 Rah. Sorry about that. Now, it doesn't necessarily need to be Kamala Harris, who's the vice president pick. 1.00

00:39:57.120 I think she's a good chance. It just needs to be somebody who's more connected with, let's say,

00:40:03.340 the Clinton camp than somebody who isn't. That's all it would take.

00:40:08.680 Watching Mike Bloomberg completely, let's say, pervert the system is kind of hilarious because he's

00:40:23.300 violating just about every principle that Democrats have in order to be their leader.

00:40:28.780 What does that do to the Democrats if the guy they choose as their leader is the guy who got there by

00:40:36.000 violating everything they believe in? So they don't believe in, you know, rich guys buying elections,

00:40:41.880 but he is. They don't believe in old white guys being the leader of the party that's all about 0.67

00:40:48.400 diversity, but he might be. They seem to be leaning more toward climate change is the end of the world

00:40:56.920 and we better get rid of all of our cars, but he's not. So it's starting to make me think

00:41:03.720 that the rules change that allowed Bloomberg into the debates was probably about,

00:41:13.820 you know, could be that maybe some, some people are trying to take some,

00:41:20.400 maybe take some support from Biden. So that would work against the theory.

00:41:23.780 Here you go. All right. So that's all I got for now. And I'm going to talk to you tomorrow.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - February 03, 2020

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