Real Coffee with Scott Adams - February 10, 2020


Episode 815 Scott Adams: Odds of Coronavirus Being a Bio Weapon, AOC Primaries Schumer? Dog-Faced Pony Soldiers


Episode Stats

Length

57 minutes

Words per Minute

149.86836

Word Count

8,653

Sentence Count

609

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

57


Summary

A critic of Vladimir Putin has been found with his throat slit in what police are calling a politically motivated assassination in a French hotel. Elon Musk tweets photos of solar panels that look like roofing materials, and I think that looks better than a roof.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Oh, what a day, what a day. What an amazing Monday it is.
00:00:08.100 Will we have laughs? Yes, we will.
00:00:11.620 Will we enjoy our time here? Will we learn something?
00:00:15.880 Yes, we will. But most importantly, we will be enjoying the simultaneous sip.
00:00:21.200 It doesn't take much to participate. It does not, really.
00:00:25.680 Merely have a cup or a mug or a glass, a tanker, chalice, or stein,
00:00:29.280 a canteen jug or a flask, a vessel of any kind.
00:00:32.340 Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee.
00:00:36.100 And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the dopamine at the end of the day,
00:00:39.440 the thing that makes everything better.
00:00:42.440 Simultaneous sip. Go.
00:00:48.640 Ah.
00:00:50.080 Now you might note that I am sipping from
00:00:53.400 the deplorable University cup.
00:00:57.640 And that is your signal that there will be some learning today.
00:01:01.880 Yeah, that's my whiteboard over there.
00:01:04.860 There will be learning.
00:01:10.500 And let's get to it.
00:01:11.740 So, lots of fun stories, lots of important stories.
00:01:18.160 Apparently, a critic of Vladimir Putin has been found with his throat slit
00:01:24.080 in what police are calling a, quote,
00:01:26.600 politically motivated assassination in a French hotel.
00:01:30.480 So, it seems like Putin has a free hand to assassinate anybody he wants, apparently.
00:01:42.720 Now, I can't say that that has no connection to the fact that he gets away with it
00:01:49.940 and apparently Saudi Arabia got away with it, too.
00:01:54.260 So, we're taking out, you know, we took out Soleimani
00:01:58.780 and what some would say was more of an assassination than an act of war.
00:02:05.860 That's debatable.
00:02:07.220 I would call it just a typical killing of terrorists.
00:02:12.360 But I think we live in a world now where people are just going to get rubbed out
00:02:17.220 for being critics.
00:02:21.140 I plan to do some criticizing of China today.
00:02:23.980 I would like to remind all of you, or tell you for the first time,
00:02:28.960 I am not feeling suicidal.
00:02:31.960 So, if I die in mysterious circumstances,
00:02:36.620 you're all my witness that I was not planning to end it myself.
00:02:41.760 In fact, I would resist dying with all of my powers.
00:02:47.800 Elon Musk tweeted out some photos of the new Tesla solar panels
00:02:53.540 for roofs, and I think Elon Musk did it again.
00:03:00.740 And by did it again, I mean I think he's made a product
00:03:03.980 that probably has a lot of potential.
00:03:07.660 He's worth $46 billion already.
00:03:10.260 Maybe this will give him a little boost.
00:03:12.960 But what I liked about it is that when Tesla made a car,
00:03:17.640 you know, the electric car,
00:03:19.180 they didn't just make it functional and,
00:03:22.500 hey, this saves you some money or it's good for the environment,
00:03:26.820 they made it sexy.
00:03:28.740 So, if you did not look at a Tesla and say,
00:03:31.440 well, that's a pretty good looking car.
00:03:33.180 If you didn't have that visceral feeling about it,
00:03:36.680 it wouldn't be nearly as successful.
00:03:38.560 It would just be a boring, you know, GM Volt,
00:03:41.640 Chevy Volt or whatever it is.
00:03:42.900 But he makes it sexy.
00:03:46.020 So, that's the secret sauce.
00:03:47.920 It's sort of what Apple does.
00:03:49.920 Apple makes a phone.
00:03:51.920 Other people make phones.
00:03:53.460 But you still like your Apple phone because it's sexy.
00:03:57.120 You know, the design is so powerful.
00:03:59.280 And apparently Tesla has done that with their solar panels
00:04:02.660 that look like roofing materials.
00:04:06.300 Because he showed some pictures and my immediate thought was,
00:04:10.560 that looks better than a roof.
00:04:13.960 It wasn't just something that looks like a roof,
00:04:17.580 but also gives you electricity.
00:04:19.460 That would be pretty good.
00:04:21.060 But that would just be a functional product.
00:04:25.480 And I don't know that that would be so successful.
00:04:27.780 I mean, maybe the economics of it would make it successful.
00:04:31.140 But he took it to the next level.
00:04:33.260 And when I looked at those houses,
00:04:34.920 I immediately said,
00:04:36.560 if I build another house,
00:04:37.800 which I'd like to do someday,
00:04:39.280 it's going to have those panels.
00:04:41.920 If only because they look great.
00:04:44.300 So, you know, I don't know the details,
00:04:46.520 but I think he might have done it again
00:04:47.780 based on the magnificence of the design element,
00:04:52.100 the part that's always left out of solar.
00:04:55.400 The Oscars were last night.
00:04:57.980 I don't care.
00:04:59.820 Do you?
00:05:01.100 I didn't watch it.
00:05:02.760 Did not watch a single movie.
00:05:05.200 And beyond that,
00:05:05.980 I don't even know how anybody can watch a movie.
00:05:08.960 How does anybody watch an entire movie?
00:05:12.400 You have one of these, right?
00:05:13.660 You've got a phone.
00:05:15.300 Hasn't your life taken the same arc as mine,
00:05:18.300 that your attention span is getting smaller
00:05:20.500 and smaller and smaller?
00:05:21.940 For me, watching a half-hour sitcom on television
00:05:25.100 is so hard now.
00:05:27.520 It's like,
00:05:28.380 I can't put my whole day into this,
00:05:30.520 even though it's just half an hour.
00:05:32.480 So,
00:05:33.700 I don't think movies even have a purpose anymore.
00:05:37.700 There's just nothing I can get out of a movie
00:05:39.920 that I need or want.
00:05:42.000 Now, there used to be a time when it was a shared experience
00:05:46.920 and there wasn't much else going on.
00:05:49.240 So, I went to the movies like everybody else did.
00:05:51.680 But I would say that I only liked
00:05:53.580 one in ten,
00:05:56.540 maybe one in twenty,
00:05:58.240 were even worth the time I put into them.
00:06:00.280 So, it was a pretty low-yield activity.
00:06:04.880 So, I just don't know why movies are even a thing anymore.
00:06:08.340 I would expect them to become obsolete
00:06:10.660 based on our ever-shrinking attention spans,
00:06:15.140 plus the fact that there's so much other stuff to entertain us.
00:06:19.480 So, I don't care about the Oscars,
00:06:22.100 don't care about Brad Pitt,
00:06:23.120 don't care about anybody's political statements.
00:06:27.060 Let's talk about Biden.
00:06:28.120 In a somewhat, I guess we could call it
00:06:32.280 typical Biden situation,
00:06:36.000 he said something so weird
00:06:37.560 at a little town hall event
00:06:39.620 in, I guess, New Hampshire,
00:06:41.100 that everybody is yakking about it.
00:06:44.420 But, of course, they're leaving out
00:06:45.920 critical parts
00:06:47.360 to make you understand the story.
00:06:49.580 So, what happened was
00:06:51.000 somebody in the audience
00:06:53.320 asked him a question,
00:06:55.020 and in responding to the question,
00:06:56.940 he asked a question back,
00:06:59.000 have you ever been to a caucus?
00:07:01.300 And the person in the audience
00:07:02.540 who was asking the question said yes.
00:07:05.200 I think it was the same person
00:07:06.760 who asked the question.
00:07:07.580 That was unclear.
00:07:09.000 And Biden looks at the audience member
00:07:10.700 who said yes,
00:07:12.220 and says,
00:07:13.580 he goes,
00:07:15.280 you're a lying dog-faced pony soldier.
00:07:20.300 Now, it took a while
00:07:21.600 for social media to figure out,
00:07:24.600 what?
00:07:25.000 What the heck is a lying dog-faced
00:07:28.220 pony soldier?
00:07:29.600 And why would you say that
00:07:30.720 to somebody you want to vote for you
00:07:32.520 in public?
00:07:34.300 What is up with that?
00:07:36.660 But it turns out
00:07:37.400 it's not crazy.
00:07:40.180 It's just suboptimal.
00:07:43.540 Because apparently this is a
00:07:45.060 sort of famous quote,
00:07:47.940 but not famous enough
00:07:49.200 that I had ever heard it before.
00:07:50.420 But it comes from John Wayne
00:07:52.280 in the John Wayne movie.
00:07:53.800 I don't know which one.
00:07:55.460 And apparently John Wayne
00:07:56.540 called somebody a lying dog-faced
00:07:58.220 pony soldier.
00:07:59.440 When Biden said it,
00:08:00.640 people laughed.
00:08:02.080 And it was sort of a
00:08:03.460 sort of a gentle ribbing
00:08:05.300 because he just didn't believe
00:08:06.720 that she'd ever been to a caucus.
00:08:09.920 So my first statement about it is,
00:08:11.980 it's a big nothing.
00:08:12.700 It wasn't a sign of him
00:08:15.180 being senile
00:08:16.240 and randomly spouting off things.
00:08:18.460 It wasn't that.
00:08:19.700 He was making a joke
00:08:20.860 based on a reference
00:08:22.080 that not everybody got.
00:08:25.400 But,
00:08:25.960 as people pointed out,
00:08:28.800 do you want a president
00:08:30.240 whose references
00:08:31.880 are old John Wayne movies?
00:08:34.480 I mean,
00:08:34.840 just by itself.
00:08:36.460 If you didn't know
00:08:37.420 anything else about him,
00:08:39.120 and he's speaking in public,
00:08:40.480 and he's making John Wayne references,
00:08:43.400 that automatically
00:08:44.940 is a little bit
00:08:46.060 of a red flag, right?
00:08:47.800 Maybe he's not
00:08:48.800 of this generation
00:08:49.820 or of this world.
00:08:54.360 So anyway,
00:08:55.960 one of the patterns
00:08:57.620 that we're seeing
00:08:58.480 is that Biden
00:08:59.240 is getting in the face
00:09:00.600 of citizens.
00:09:03.520 Now,
00:09:03.760 the people he gets
00:09:04.420 in their face
00:09:04.940 are mostly people
00:09:06.480 who have asked
00:09:07.040 critical questions,
00:09:08.420 people who probably
00:09:09.180 aren't going to vote
00:09:09.820 for him anyway.
00:09:11.360 But,
00:09:11.920 have you ever seen
00:09:13.320 Trump
00:09:14.000 go after a citizen
00:09:16.340 like that?
00:09:18.260 Now,
00:09:18.580 he does mock
00:09:19.280 people who
00:09:20.180 make disturbances
00:09:21.520 at his rallies,
00:09:23.220 but I would say
00:09:24.140 that's people
00:09:24.660 who have started
00:09:25.420 the problem
00:09:26.000 and he's just
00:09:26.560 having fun with it,
00:09:27.520 etc.
00:09:28.360 But,
00:09:29.720 you don't see
00:09:30.580 Trump going after
00:09:32.200 people for just
00:09:33.140 their opinion.
00:09:34.840 Going after somebody
00:09:36.020 for disrupting
00:09:37.060 a rally
00:09:37.600 is going after
00:09:39.180 somebody for
00:09:39.720 bad behavior.
00:09:40.880 That seems fair.
00:09:42.420 Going after somebody
00:09:43.480 for a differing
00:09:45.000 political opinion
00:09:45.900 and insulting them
00:09:47.360 in public
00:09:48.140 feels like
00:09:49.640 not your best play.
00:09:50.680 and I'm noticing
00:09:54.840 this pattern.
00:09:55.740 Let me run this
00:09:56.320 by you
00:09:56.660 and see if you
00:09:57.340 see this pattern.
00:09:59.220 Democrats
00:09:59.740 as a group
00:10:01.620 and as a
00:10:02.560 philosophy
00:10:03.100 blame
00:10:05.740 other people
00:10:06.700 for problems.
00:10:08.400 If you listen
00:10:09.860 if you listen to
00:10:10.040 Bernie talk
00:10:10.620 he says
00:10:11.160 it's the
00:10:12.280 billionaires,
00:10:13.360 it's the
00:10:13.860 bankers,
00:10:14.580 it's the
00:10:14.900 rich people,
00:10:16.160 Americans.
00:10:17.620 So Bernie,
00:10:18.780 his entire
00:10:19.620 thrust is
00:10:20.600 blaming people
00:10:21.360 who have
00:10:21.840 money,
00:10:22.880 people who are
00:10:23.340 making the rules,
00:10:24.300 etc.
00:10:24.720 But it's
00:10:25.320 blaming people.
00:10:27.820 And I think
00:10:28.720 you would see
00:10:29.080 that with
00:10:30.200 all of
00:10:31.220 identity politics.
00:10:32.680 The whole point
00:10:33.440 of identity politics
00:10:34.460 is that one
00:10:35.500 group of
00:10:35.960 Americans,
00:10:36.720 usually Democrats,
00:10:38.000 are blaming
00:10:38.740 another group
00:10:39.340 of Americans.
00:10:40.240 So again
00:10:40.600 there's
00:10:41.000 sort of
00:10:41.900 an enemy
00:10:42.500 and it's
00:10:43.900 always Americans.
00:10:45.460 It's the
00:10:45.800 Americans you
00:10:46.280 don't like.
00:10:48.040 But when
00:10:48.400 Republicans
00:10:49.040 talk,
00:10:50.080 now of course
00:10:50.500 there's a
00:10:50.800 little bit
00:10:51.080 of overlap
00:10:51.580 so what
00:10:52.500 I'm going
00:10:52.760 to say
00:10:53.040 doesn't have
00:10:53.520 some universal
00:10:54.420 perfect truth.
00:10:56.020 I'm talking
00:10:56.360 about in
00:10:57.320 general
00:10:57.740 and on
00:10:58.800 average.
00:10:59.960 But on
00:11:00.340 average
00:11:00.760 and in
00:11:01.960 general
00:11:02.300 Republicans
00:11:03.760 usually
00:11:04.420 criticize
00:11:05.060 systems.
00:11:07.240 So a
00:11:08.220 Republican
00:11:08.640 is going
00:11:09.060 to say
00:11:09.440 taxes are
00:11:10.440 too high.
00:11:11.060 That's about
00:11:11.400 the system.
00:11:12.500 A Republican
00:11:13.060 is going
00:11:13.420 to say
00:11:13.800 we have
00:11:14.720 too many
00:11:15.060 regulations.
00:11:16.520 That's
00:11:16.920 something
00:11:17.240 wrong with
00:11:17.580 the system.
00:11:18.500 A Republican
00:11:19.120 is going
00:11:19.460 to say
00:11:19.800 we need
00:11:20.360 stronger
00:11:20.880 law enforcement.
00:11:22.800 That's
00:11:23.220 just about
00:11:23.640 the system.
00:11:24.760 A Republican
00:11:25.400 might say
00:11:26.100 we need
00:11:26.520 more
00:11:26.840 market
00:11:28.360 influence
00:11:30.720 on
00:11:32.020 pharmaceuticals.
00:11:33.300 That's
00:11:34.160 the system.
00:11:35.280 So look
00:11:35.720 for this
00:11:36.060 pattern.
00:11:37.280 It seems
00:11:37.660 to me
00:11:37.980 that
00:11:38.140 Republicans
00:11:38.680 tend
00:11:39.540 to
00:11:39.840 criticize
00:11:40.280 systems
00:11:41.080 when they
00:11:41.800 think
00:11:41.980 there's
00:11:42.180 something
00:11:42.380 wrong
00:11:42.660 with
00:11:42.800 them.
00:11:43.700 And
00:11:43.860 Democrats
00:11:44.380 tend
00:11:44.960 to
00:11:45.220 criticize
00:11:45.640 other
00:11:46.160 Americans.
00:11:47.360 It's
00:11:47.740 fairly
00:11:48.220 consistent.
00:11:49.780 Now
00:11:49.920 in both
00:11:50.280 cases
00:11:50.780 they're
00:11:52.080 blaming
00:11:52.660 something.
00:11:54.020 Everybody
00:11:54.360 likes to
00:11:54.960 blame
00:11:55.220 something.
00:11:56.200 But it
00:11:56.820 feels a
00:11:57.300 lot more
00:11:57.640 productive
00:11:58.080 to blame
00:11:59.080 your
00:11:59.340 system.
00:12:00.660 Don't
00:12:01.020 blame
00:12:01.320 the
00:12:01.720 people
00:12:02.020 for
00:12:02.260 being
00:12:02.520 evil
00:12:02.880 and
00:12:03.080 defective.
00:12:04.320 Now
00:12:04.460 I know
00:12:05.000 there are
00:12:05.820 plenty
00:12:06.100 of
00:12:06.280 Republicans
00:12:06.740 who
00:12:07.060 blame
00:12:07.300 people
00:12:07.740 and
00:12:09.180 accuse
00:12:10.380 snowflakes
00:12:10.980 of being
00:12:11.280 snowflakes.
00:12:12.640 But mostly
00:12:13.240 it's about
00:12:13.800 their
00:12:14.000 opinions.
00:12:16.200 It's
00:12:16.480 mostly about
00:12:17.000 their
00:12:17.140 opinions.
00:12:17.780 It's
00:12:18.000 not really
00:12:18.540 too
00:12:18.760 personal.
00:12:20.180 But the
00:12:20.520 Democrats
00:12:21.000 really feel
00:12:22.460 personal.
00:12:23.400 It's about
00:12:23.780 people.
00:12:24.920 And it
00:12:25.060 seems that
00:12:25.500 the Democratic
00:12:27.300 philosophies
00:12:28.060 seem to
00:12:28.740 grow out
00:12:29.340 of the
00:12:29.820 concepts
00:12:30.260 of fear
00:12:30.980 and jealousy.
00:12:33.460 Wouldn't
00:12:34.020 you say?
00:12:34.580 If you
00:12:34.940 look at
00:12:35.340 the top
00:12:36.440 Democrats
00:12:37.000 what they're
00:12:37.980 talking about
00:12:38.420 is fear
00:12:38.900 and jealousy
00:12:39.420 mostly.
00:12:40.560 Republicans
00:12:41.100 tend to
00:12:41.720 focus on
00:12:42.380 freedom
00:12:42.860 and efficiency.
00:12:45.240 Having a
00:12:45.860 good system
00:12:46.480 being free
00:12:47.240 to enjoy.
00:12:48.900 Now
00:12:49.080 Democrats
00:12:49.920 also use
00:12:50.700 fear
00:12:51.100 but it
00:12:52.500 usually is
00:12:53.160 more of a
00:12:53.560 campaign
00:12:53.880 thing.
00:12:55.340 All
00:12:55.420 right.
00:12:57.260 So
00:12:57.860 the
00:12:58.040 president
00:12:58.380 fired
00:12:59.000 two of
00:13:00.280 the
00:13:00.560 people
00:13:01.180 who
00:13:01.340 testified
00:13:01.740 in the
00:13:02.660 impeachment
00:13:03.020 process
00:13:04.000 Sondland
00:13:05.760 and the
00:13:06.580 two
00:13:06.800 Vindmans.
00:13:07.740 The
00:13:08.120 Vindmans
00:13:08.440 weren't
00:13:08.740 fired.
00:13:09.180 They
00:13:09.220 were just
00:13:09.500 reassigned
00:13:10.020 back to
00:13:10.400 where they
00:13:11.780 came from.
00:13:13.000 And
00:13:13.140 Sondland
00:13:13.520 I don't
00:13:13.880 think
00:13:14.060 needed
00:13:14.320 the job.
00:13:15.100 If I
00:13:15.440 understand
00:13:15.800 he was
00:13:16.120 a rich
00:13:16.420 guy.
00:13:17.520 He
00:13:17.740 wasn't
00:13:18.020 a career
00:13:18.440 politician.
00:13:19.380 So
00:13:19.440 he
00:13:19.580 probably
00:13:19.780 doesn't
00:13:20.020 care
00:13:20.200 that
00:13:20.380 much.
00:13:21.260 So
00:13:21.360 nobody
00:13:21.660 really
00:13:21.980 lost
00:13:22.400 out.
00:13:23.460 The
00:13:23.720 Vindmans
00:13:24.160 didn't
00:13:24.520 lose
00:13:24.760 any
00:13:25.000 money.
00:13:26.300 And
00:13:26.420 Sondland
00:13:26.900 had as
00:13:27.640 much
00:13:27.820 money as
00:13:28.200 he
00:13:28.300 needed.
00:13:28.680 I think
00:13:28.860 so it
00:13:30.560 wasn't
00:13:30.820 like there
00:13:31.420 were some
00:13:31.780 real victims
00:13:32.440 here in
00:13:33.140 any kind
00:13:33.800 of a
00:13:34.040 serious
00:13:34.360 lasting
00:13:34.800 way.
00:13:36.020 And
00:13:36.420 everybody
00:13:36.700 agrees
00:13:37.100 that
00:13:37.460 Trump had
00:13:40.060 the right
00:13:40.400 to do
00:13:40.740 it.
00:13:41.020 And he
00:13:41.180 has to
00:13:41.400 be
00:13:41.540 comfortable
00:13:41.860 with his
00:13:42.260 staff.
00:13:42.680 So it's
00:13:43.220 sort of a
00:13:43.580 big nothing.
00:13:44.420 But I
00:13:44.600 wanted to
00:13:44.920 call out
00:13:45.300 the
00:13:45.540 contrast
00:13:46.280 play.
00:13:46.680 Because
00:13:48.320 there are
00:13:48.560 people saying
00:13:49.180 it's bad
00:13:49.900 for him
00:13:50.240 to do
00:13:50.540 this.
00:13:51.000 It's a
00:13:51.260 bad look.
00:13:52.160 It's
00:13:52.480 unnecessary.
00:13:54.000 Blah,
00:13:54.260 blah,
00:13:54.540 blah.
00:13:55.300 But I
00:13:56.320 would argue
00:13:57.560 that Trump
00:13:58.980 consistently
00:13:59.720 uses the
00:14:00.700 concept of
00:14:01.580 contrast.
00:14:03.120 And the
00:14:03.600 contrast that
00:14:04.520 he consistently
00:14:05.700 uses is
00:14:07.600 if you do
00:14:08.120 good things
00:14:08.760 for him,
00:14:09.640 you say
00:14:10.040 nice things
00:14:10.560 about him,
00:14:11.420 he's going
00:14:12.160 to say
00:14:12.460 nice things
00:14:13.020 about you.
00:14:14.640 But if
00:14:15.340 you're a
00:14:15.960 critic,
00:14:16.380 or you're
00:14:17.020 a problem
00:14:17.420 for him,
00:14:18.360 he's going
00:14:18.780 to go at
00:14:19.240 you hard.
00:14:19.920 Because he
00:14:20.300 wants the
00:14:20.700 distance to
00:14:21.920 be as
00:14:22.240 far as
00:14:22.880 possible between
00:14:24.300 being on
00:14:25.120 his team
00:14:25.700 and being
00:14:26.640 opposed to
00:14:27.200 him.
00:14:28.080 That's
00:14:28.460 really good
00:14:29.440 basic
00:14:29.880 leadership.
00:14:31.200 Now the
00:14:31.460 people saying
00:14:31.980 hey,
00:14:32.360 don't go so
00:14:33.040 hard on
00:14:33.440 your critics
00:14:34.120 and don't
00:14:35.520 go so hard
00:14:36.080 on the
00:14:36.320 people who
00:14:36.800 are fighting
00:14:37.680 against you
00:14:38.400 are missing
00:14:39.560 the fact that
00:14:40.280 the larger
00:14:40.820 you can make
00:14:41.340 that contrast,
00:14:42.280 the more
00:14:42.760 effective you
00:14:44.020 are as a
00:14:44.460 leader.
00:14:45.040 So you see
00:14:45.400 Trump do
00:14:45.840 the contrast
00:14:46.640 play all
00:14:47.180 the time.
00:14:48.100 This is just
00:14:48.660 another one.
00:14:49.640 But you could
00:14:50.180 say, hey, he
00:14:51.100 really did it
00:14:51.680 because he's
00:14:52.240 mad at them
00:14:52.980 and it's just
00:14:53.520 personal and he
00:14:54.600 didn't need to
00:14:55.060 do it.
00:14:55.500 Maybe.
00:14:56.760 Maybe.
00:14:57.480 Things don't get
00:14:58.460 done for one
00:14:59.120 reason.
00:15:00.740 Whenever you say
00:15:01.480 there's only one
00:15:02.180 reason something
00:15:02.820 happened, you're
00:15:04.800 probably wrong.
00:15:05.920 Because there's
00:15:06.380 usually complicated
00:15:07.800 multi-part motives.
00:15:10.180 So Trump
00:15:11.020 probably liked it
00:15:11.980 for revenge,
00:15:13.080 just guessing.
00:15:14.200 I can't read
00:15:14.900 his mind, so I
00:15:15.720 don't know what
00:15:16.080 he's thinking,
00:15:16.660 but if you
00:15:17.720 were in that
00:15:18.080 situation, you'd
00:15:19.060 like a little
00:15:19.520 revenge, probably.
00:15:21.180 Probably also did
00:15:22.180 it because he
00:15:22.720 couldn't trust him,
00:15:23.980 and that's fair
00:15:25.040 for any employer.
00:15:26.480 But I think he
00:15:27.060 also did it to
00:15:28.440 establish that
00:15:29.440 big gap between
00:15:31.060 being on his
00:15:31.700 team and not
00:15:32.200 being on his
00:15:32.660 team.
00:15:33.320 So if there are
00:15:34.100 people in the
00:15:34.640 middle trying to
00:15:35.920 figure out, do I
00:15:37.200 speak up?
00:15:37.980 Do I become a
00:15:38.760 critic?
00:15:39.520 He just makes
00:15:40.300 it harder for
00:15:40.900 them to do
00:15:41.280 that.
00:15:42.400 So it's good
00:15:43.080 persuasion, even
00:15:44.020 if you don't
00:15:44.380 like it.
00:15:46.540 Trump, of
00:15:47.740 course, is the
00:15:48.920 greatest Twitter
00:15:50.300 troll of all
00:15:50.920 time, and so
00:15:51.860 he did his
00:15:52.380 Monday trick of
00:15:53.640 saying something
00:15:54.780 so provocative
00:15:55.560 that you can't
00:15:56.280 ignore it, and
00:15:57.300 it will start to
00:15:58.640 dominate the
00:15:59.300 headlines.
00:16:00.740 So here's his
00:16:01.700 tweet from this
00:16:02.320 morning.
00:16:02.760 This is just
00:16:03.420 delicious trolling.
00:16:06.420 I mean, it's
00:16:07.080 hilarious.
00:16:08.760 But here it
00:16:10.340 is.
00:16:11.220 He says,
00:16:12.160 because of how
00:16:13.680 badly they did
00:16:14.640 with the
00:16:14.980 impeachment
00:16:15.380 hoax, which
00:16:16.900 he capitalizes
00:16:17.660 now, impeachment
00:16:18.500 hoax is
00:16:19.060 capitalized now,
00:16:20.700 he says, AOC
00:16:22.420 will primary
00:16:23.480 cry and Chuck
00:16:24.520 Schumer and
00:16:25.360 win.
00:16:26.600 And Jerry
00:16:27.040 Nadler has a
00:16:27.740 good chance of
00:16:28.340 losing to his
00:16:28.980 far-left primary
00:16:30.040 opponent.
00:16:31.180 It is all
00:16:31.920 getting quite
00:16:32.420 interesting.
00:16:33.600 Pelosi will
00:16:34.220 lose the
00:16:34.640 House again.
00:16:35.820 My poll
00:16:36.200 numbers are
00:16:36.720 great.
00:16:37.100 Now, the
00:16:38.120 active part of
00:16:38.880 this, and
00:16:39.400 the hilarious
00:16:40.220 part, is
00:16:41.620 that AOC, we
00:16:44.860 assume, based
00:16:46.060 on what we've
00:16:46.800 observed, again,
00:16:47.820 I'm not mind
00:16:48.420 reading, I'm
00:16:49.040 just making an
00:16:49.980 assumption based
00:16:51.640 on what we
00:16:52.540 observe.
00:16:54.300 AOC seems to
00:16:55.640 be ambitious.
00:16:57.960 Would you all
00:16:59.060 agree that that's
00:16:59.680 true?
00:16:59.960 It's not an
00:17:00.460 insult.
00:17:01.940 It's just an
00:17:02.960 objective statement.
00:17:04.400 Would you say
00:17:04.980 that AOC is
00:17:06.480 ambitious?
00:17:07.520 I think you'd
00:17:08.100 agree with
00:17:08.460 that, right?
00:17:09.480 So you've got
00:17:10.200 ambitious AOC,
00:17:11.780 who has just
00:17:13.620 hugely successful
00:17:15.240 in dominating
00:17:17.440 the thought
00:17:18.660 process and
00:17:19.580 even the
00:17:19.980 policies and
00:17:20.840 the candidates
00:17:21.560 and everything
00:17:22.020 else, with the
00:17:23.280 Green New
00:17:23.660 Deal and
00:17:25.100 anything else
00:17:25.620 she says, it
00:17:26.160 turns out.
00:17:27.420 So does she
00:17:29.380 want to get a
00:17:30.080 promotion, and
00:17:31.100 it would be a
00:17:31.760 promotion, from
00:17:33.120 being in the
00:17:33.740 House?
00:17:34.160 Yes, there
00:17:35.100 are lots of
00:17:35.500 people in the
00:17:35.980 House, and
00:17:37.200 it's an
00:17:37.480 important job, but
00:17:38.960 it's not like
00:17:39.540 being a
00:17:39.940 senator.
00:17:41.220 Senator is one
00:17:42.380 step closer to
00:17:43.420 president, if you
00:17:44.440 know what I
00:17:44.800 mean.
00:17:45.960 So does AOC,
00:17:48.140 any time in the
00:17:49.020 future, have
00:17:50.600 thoughts of
00:17:51.420 becoming a
00:17:53.200 senator?
00:17:54.440 Because apparently
00:17:55.320 the only way she
00:17:56.200 could do that is
00:17:57.260 to wait for
00:17:57.960 crying Chuck
00:17:59.000 Schumer to
00:17:59.620 retire.
00:18:00.420 I don't think
00:18:00.940 that's going to
00:18:01.340 happen right
00:18:01.740 away, or
00:18:03.440 to primary
00:18:04.220 him.
00:18:05.380 And she
00:18:05.740 might have a
00:18:06.240 reason to
00:18:06.680 primary him
00:18:07.280 because he's
00:18:07.820 not radical
00:18:08.560 enough, according
00:18:09.200 to her.
00:18:10.260 Now, what
00:18:11.520 would happen if
00:18:12.400 AOC primaried
00:18:13.640 Chuck Schumer?
00:18:15.400 Who would win
00:18:16.380 that?
00:18:18.400 Well, Chuck
00:18:19.320 Schumer has, you
00:18:20.480 know, he's got
00:18:20.920 the base, he's
00:18:22.240 probably, you
00:18:22.960 know, got plenty
00:18:23.700 of funding, he's
00:18:24.740 got tons of
00:18:26.020 connections, he's
00:18:27.100 got history, he
00:18:28.480 has lots of
00:18:28.960 advantages.
00:18:29.440 Then there's
00:18:31.460 AOC.
00:18:33.480 AOC has so
00:18:36.240 much more
00:18:36.960 skill than
00:18:38.840 Schumer.
00:18:39.600 It's very much
00:18:40.240 like Trump
00:18:41.760 going up against
00:18:42.880 Hillary.
00:18:43.700 Hillary had
00:18:44.400 every advantage
00:18:45.540 a politician
00:18:46.240 could have, you
00:18:47.040 know, money,
00:18:47.900 connections,
00:18:48.640 experience,
00:18:49.360 everything you
00:18:50.080 could have,
00:18:51.260 except she
00:18:53.380 wasn't nearly as
00:18:54.180 good at persuading
00:18:55.200 and communicating,
00:18:56.440 at least in the
00:18:57.020 way that Trump
00:18:57.660 was.
00:18:57.920 So, hypothetically,
00:19:01.520 if AOC ran
00:19:02.580 against Schumer,
00:19:03.440 could she win?
00:19:05.140 I'm going to say
00:19:05.920 yes, which is
00:19:07.200 different from
00:19:07.680 saying she would
00:19:08.340 win, but it's
00:19:09.620 entirely within
00:19:10.860 the realm of
00:19:11.840 sort of a coin
00:19:14.060 flip.
00:19:14.920 I think it would
00:19:15.680 be interesting,
00:19:17.820 but I wouldn't
00:19:18.980 assume that Schumer
00:19:19.980 could keep his
00:19:20.580 job.
00:19:22.000 And what a
00:19:22.660 baller play that
00:19:24.120 would be for AOC
00:19:25.100 to take out the
00:19:25.960 leader of her own
00:19:26.860 party because he
00:19:28.360 wasn't radical
00:19:29.440 enough.
00:19:31.660 It would be a
00:19:32.560 real strong play.
00:19:34.160 Now, I have no
00:19:35.180 idea, none of us
00:19:36.520 do, if AOC has
00:19:38.280 ever considered
00:19:39.000 this play.
00:19:40.220 But because the
00:19:40.920 president put it
00:19:41.620 out there, we're
00:19:42.180 all going to be
00:19:42.620 chewing on it.
00:19:43.860 And it's going to
00:19:44.520 sort of think it
00:19:45.720 into reality,
00:19:46.960 because the first
00:19:48.840 step of making
00:19:49.640 something happen
00:19:50.420 is you have to
00:19:51.560 imagine it.
00:19:52.140 If the people
00:19:53.800 involved can't
00:19:54.740 imagine a thing
00:19:55.540 happening, they
00:19:56.140 don't act on it
00:19:57.000 because you can't
00:19:57.740 even imagine it.
00:19:59.640 Well, now we're
00:20:00.240 all imagining it.
00:20:01.700 I imagine that AOC
00:20:04.960 has already thought
00:20:05.700 of it.
00:20:08.980 So that was fun.
00:20:10.840 So the president's
00:20:11.940 insuring new water.
00:20:13.640 Now, also, AOC
00:20:14.600 news.
00:20:15.300 I'll give you two
00:20:16.040 pieces of AOC
00:20:16.880 news.
00:20:17.900 The other one
00:20:18.420 was, I had a
00:20:19.660 chance to ask a
00:20:20.780 teenager yesterday,
00:20:24.000 I said, hey
00:20:25.300 teenager, can you
00:20:26.420 name the vice
00:20:27.180 president of the
00:20:27.960 United States?
00:20:28.780 I just wondered,
00:20:29.840 do teenagers pay
00:20:30.860 attention to any
00:20:31.840 of this stuff?
00:20:33.240 And the teenager
00:20:34.040 said to me, Mike
00:20:35.320 Pence.
00:20:36.680 Knew it like that.
00:20:38.060 And I thought, oh,
00:20:38.560 that's pretty good.
00:20:39.940 And then said
00:20:40.660 teenager said to
00:20:41.540 me, but I can't
00:20:43.240 name anybody else
00:20:44.760 in the government.
00:20:46.380 Those are the only
00:20:47.020 two names I know,
00:20:48.320 just Trump and
00:20:49.840 Mike Pence.
00:20:51.460 And then teenagers
00:20:52.580 said, well, there's
00:20:53.580 also that one, who's
00:20:55.440 that one who, they
00:20:58.120 were making fun of
00:20:58.920 his religion because
00:21:00.360 of the vote.
00:21:01.660 And I said, Romney,
00:21:02.660 Romney.
00:21:03.500 And the teenager
00:21:03.980 said, yes, yes,
00:21:04.740 that's the one.
00:21:05.540 But the teenager
00:21:06.220 didn't know any of
00:21:06.920 the details, had
00:21:07.780 just sort of heard
00:21:09.140 the story passing
00:21:09.980 through.
00:21:10.960 And then I thought
00:21:11.880 I was done with the
00:21:12.580 conversation.
00:21:14.020 And said teenager
00:21:14.800 said to me, well, I
00:21:16.340 remember one other
00:21:17.400 politician.
00:21:19.360 And I said, do you
00:21:21.240 know who AOC is?
00:21:23.160 And teenager said, no,
00:21:25.100 I never heard of
00:21:26.320 AOC.
00:21:27.340 There's only one
00:21:28.100 politician, other
00:21:29.200 one that I can think
00:21:30.200 of.
00:21:32.160 And said, the
00:21:33.160 teenager said, the
00:21:35.200 name of the
00:21:35.700 politician is
00:21:36.800 Alexandria.
00:21:39.120 Alexandria.
00:21:40.500 And I said, you
00:21:42.360 mean AOC?
00:21:44.340 And said, teenager
00:21:45.500 said, yes, that's
00:21:47.200 it.
00:21:48.120 The Alexandria,
00:21:49.820 you know, Octavia,
00:21:52.140 Cortez, or whatever
00:21:52.880 it is.
00:21:54.580 I can never remember
00:21:55.660 her name, so I
00:21:56.440 always use AOC.
00:21:57.900 So think about
00:21:59.020 that.
00:22:00.100 A teenager with the
00:22:02.220 smallest understanding
00:22:04.080 of American politics,
00:22:05.980 I mean, just the most
00:22:06.820 minuscule understanding
00:22:08.420 had four data
00:22:11.000 points, and
00:22:13.040 AOC was one of
00:22:14.160 them, right?
00:22:16.700 Okay, Ocasio, not
00:22:18.640 Octavio.
00:22:20.000 I'm sorry.
00:22:20.880 There's a reason she
00:22:21.600 has a nickname.
00:22:23.640 Speaking of mixing
00:22:24.980 up names, that's the
00:22:26.300 story I was going to
00:22:26.900 tell.
00:22:27.160 So the first point
00:22:27.920 is, do not
00:22:29.420 underestimate how
00:22:31.460 good AOC is at
00:22:33.400 getting the attention
00:22:34.140 of people.
00:22:34.640 So even the
00:22:36.400 teenager knows who
00:22:37.320 she is and
00:22:37.820 doesn't know
00:22:38.260 anybody else.
00:22:41.180 So there's a big
00:22:42.240 story because AOC
00:22:44.140 was talking on
00:22:45.480 some kind of
00:22:46.020 video stream and
00:22:47.800 mixed up the
00:22:48.460 names of two
00:22:49.320 famous economists.
00:22:51.220 So instead of
00:22:51.820 saying Milton
00:22:52.420 Friedman, and
00:22:54.380 instead of saying
00:22:55.780 John Maynard
00:22:57.440 Keynes, she
00:22:59.100 said Milton
00:23:00.120 Keynes.
00:23:00.820 So she put the
00:23:02.100 wrong first name
00:23:02.920 with the wrong
00:23:03.340 last name.
00:23:04.640 Now, of course,
00:23:05.520 all the anti-AOC
00:23:06.800 people said,
00:23:07.500 oh, there she
00:23:08.560 is again, being
00:23:09.380 dumb in public.
00:23:10.700 How dumb can
00:23:11.360 you be mixing
00:23:12.420 up these two
00:23:13.060 names?
00:23:14.920 To which I
00:23:15.800 said, I don't
00:23:17.800 know, have you
00:23:18.460 listened to
00:23:18.900 anything that I've
00:23:19.900 said or written
00:23:20.840 for the last
00:23:21.440 three years?
00:23:22.740 Because here's
00:23:23.300 what I think
00:23:23.820 happened.
00:23:25.160 Everybody in the
00:23:26.060 country just
00:23:26.720 learned that AOC
00:23:28.680 has a background
00:23:29.660 in economics.
00:23:31.080 Now, in my
00:23:31.860 tweet, I said
00:23:32.560 a degree, I
00:23:33.680 think it's a
00:23:34.140 minor, a
00:23:35.140 minor in
00:23:35.580 economics.
00:23:36.680 Do you call
00:23:37.160 that a degree?
00:23:38.480 If somebody has
00:23:39.000 a minor in
00:23:40.580 something, is
00:23:41.440 that a degree?
00:23:42.860 I don't know.
00:23:43.240 I don't know
00:23:44.120 which words to
00:23:44.960 use of that.
00:23:46.080 But the
00:23:46.400 point is, how
00:23:48.060 many people in
00:23:48.880 the general
00:23:49.300 public have a
00:23:51.380 background in
00:23:52.180 studying economics?
00:23:54.680 Not too many.
00:23:56.400 So everybody in
00:23:57.340 the country just
00:23:58.020 learned, because of
00:23:59.020 this little minor
00:24:00.480 mixing up of
00:24:01.340 names, which we
00:24:02.140 all do.
00:24:03.180 In fact, I
00:24:03.760 just did it.
00:24:04.660 I literally
00:24:05.260 just did it
00:24:06.620 with AOC's
00:24:07.560 name.
00:24:08.220 Most common
00:24:08.820 thing in the
00:24:09.240 world.
00:24:10.000 Doesn't mean I'm
00:24:10.720 stupid.
00:24:11.200 Doesn't mean you're
00:24:11.720 stupid.
00:24:12.100 Doesn't mean
00:24:12.420 anybody's stupid.
00:24:13.080 It's just a
00:24:13.420 common thing.
00:24:14.280 But what did
00:24:14.860 she get out of
00:24:15.480 it?
00:24:16.400 The whole world
00:24:17.500 just found out
00:24:19.020 she has a
00:24:19.420 background in
00:24:19.960 economics.
00:24:20.780 Because most
00:24:21.240 people wouldn't
00:24:21.760 know either one
00:24:22.480 of those
00:24:22.760 economists.
00:24:23.860 She knew it
00:24:24.640 and mixed them
00:24:25.300 up, but that
00:24:25.820 puts her away
00:24:26.340 out of most of
00:24:27.140 the people.
00:24:27.420 So she came
00:24:28.760 out ahead.
00:24:29.720 I tweeted
00:24:30.380 that, and she
00:24:31.240 liked my tweet
00:24:32.460 within about 60
00:24:33.700 seconds.
00:24:34.820 So I think she
00:24:35.740 enjoyed that.
00:24:37.100 All right, let's
00:24:37.460 talk about a few
00:24:40.200 things, and I'm
00:24:40.800 going to go to
00:24:41.160 the whiteboard.
00:24:43.960 Oh, here's some
00:24:45.000 potentially exciting
00:24:46.540 news.
00:24:47.400 Now, when you
00:24:47.880 hear these new
00:24:48.640 scientific and
00:24:50.240 technical discoveries,
00:24:52.100 most of the time
00:24:53.160 they don't turn
00:24:53.860 into anything.
00:24:54.880 But they're still
00:24:55.960 fun to think
00:24:56.520 about, because
00:24:57.020 they do show
00:24:58.480 the potential, and
00:24:59.540 they do show
00:25:00.280 that we're a
00:25:01.040 world that's
00:25:02.040 inventing like
00:25:02.900 crazy.
00:25:03.400 Some of those
00:25:03.860 inventions work.
00:25:05.500 But it turns
00:25:05.900 out that researchers
00:25:06.640 at Ben-Gurion
00:25:07.900 University, so
00:25:09.640 Israel, they
00:25:11.340 have a new
00:25:11.680 technology in
00:25:12.640 which they
00:25:13.080 superheat water
00:25:14.400 until the water
00:25:15.620 becomes sort of
00:25:16.800 in a strange
00:25:18.040 state.
00:25:19.260 It's so hot.
00:25:20.580 And then they
00:25:21.040 can take the
00:25:21.540 garbage and put
00:25:22.300 it in that
00:25:22.660 water.
00:25:23.140 I'm simplifying,
00:25:24.080 of course.
00:25:24.320 And there's
00:25:25.120 something about
00:25:25.700 the highly
00:25:26.540 pressurized hot
00:25:27.700 water that
00:25:29.180 turns the
00:25:29.840 organic parts
00:25:31.040 of your garbage
00:25:32.140 into a gas that
00:25:33.580 you can use for
00:25:34.220 fuel.
00:25:35.360 And here's the
00:25:36.040 cool part.
00:25:37.080 It only does
00:25:38.140 that to the
00:25:38.620 organic parts that
00:25:39.540 can turn into
00:25:40.140 fuel, and all
00:25:40.780 the rest becomes
00:25:41.660 just garbage.
00:25:43.760 So, apparently
00:25:45.800 this works.
00:25:46.900 They've already
00:25:47.460 done it.
00:25:48.100 You know, it's
00:25:48.420 not theoretical.
00:25:49.500 They're actually
00:25:50.160 doing it in a
00:25:50.900 lab setting.
00:25:51.420 Now, imagine
00:25:53.160 if this is
00:25:54.220 something that
00:25:54.700 could scale
00:25:55.200 up.
00:25:55.880 And again, most
00:25:56.800 of these technical
00:25:58.080 things end up not
00:25:59.240 being scalable and
00:26:00.340 not really being
00:26:00.900 what you think.
00:26:01.740 But this one
00:26:02.380 might be, because
00:26:03.600 it seems like
00:26:04.160 they've already
00:26:04.600 tested it, and
00:26:05.500 there's not much
00:26:06.140 to it in terms
00:26:07.600 of how hard it
00:26:08.240 would be to
00:26:08.700 scale it up,
00:26:09.360 because it's
00:26:10.120 basic industrial
00:26:11.700 stuff.
00:26:12.200 There's nothing
00:26:12.600 exotic that needs
00:26:13.520 to be invented.
00:26:14.240 So, it could
00:26:15.740 be that, you
00:26:16.940 know, our
00:26:17.340 garbage and
00:26:18.180 some part of
00:26:20.540 our energy
00:26:22.760 problems just
00:26:23.860 had a big
00:26:25.260 turn.
00:26:25.820 Don't know.
00:26:27.260 All right.
00:26:28.340 I'm having fun
00:26:29.420 arguing with
00:26:30.240 people about
00:26:31.020 whether Trump
00:26:31.720 was impeached
00:26:33.180 or not impeached,
00:26:34.260 and I think you
00:26:34.800 know, I think
00:26:37.440 you know that I'm
00:26:39.780 doing this just
00:26:40.340 for fun.
00:26:41.440 In my book,
00:26:42.400 Loser Think,
00:26:43.640 behind me, in
00:26:45.540 my book, Loser
00:26:46.140 Think, I tell
00:26:46.980 you that it's
00:26:48.200 word thinking to
00:26:50.200 argue about what
00:26:51.420 label to put on
00:26:52.260 something if
00:26:53.720 everybody agrees
00:26:54.460 what the
00:26:54.820 something is.
00:26:55.840 So, with this
00:26:56.460 impeachment situation,
00:26:57.640 we're all looking
00:26:58.160 at the same set
00:26:58.860 of facts.
00:27:00.200 So, if you want
00:27:00.960 to call it he's
00:27:01.660 impeached and I
00:27:02.720 want to say he's
00:27:03.240 not impeached,
00:27:04.460 that's not a real
00:27:05.360 argument.
00:27:06.440 That's just, you
00:27:07.540 like your word, I
00:27:08.520 like my word.
00:27:09.080 It doesn't change
00:27:09.660 the facts that we
00:27:10.460 all agree on.
00:27:10.840 So, I do this
00:27:12.600 just for fun.
00:27:14.140 It's a complete
00:27:14.780 long-term prank
00:27:16.440 to make Democrats
00:27:18.760 go crazy.
00:27:20.260 Now, the argument
00:27:20.840 that I heard
00:27:22.480 Dershowitz make
00:27:23.140 is that there's
00:27:24.500 an analogy to
00:27:26.080 a criminal trial.
00:27:27.820 And, as Dershowitz
00:27:29.060 said, if it were
00:27:29.920 a criminal trial
00:27:30.780 and you got
00:27:31.900 indicted and then
00:27:33.240 you had your
00:27:33.720 trial, and let's
00:27:35.200 say you were
00:27:35.600 found not guilty,
00:27:36.820 at the moment
00:27:37.580 you're found not
00:27:38.380 guilty, you're
00:27:39.760 also no longer
00:27:40.540 indicted.
00:27:42.300 The indictment
00:27:43.240 doesn't mean
00:27:43.940 anything because
00:27:44.640 the trial is
00:27:45.700 over.
00:27:46.720 So, he would
00:27:48.120 use that analogy
00:27:48.960 to say, well,
00:27:50.220 if you get
00:27:50.740 impeached by the
00:27:51.440 House, but the
00:27:52.280 Senate doesn't
00:27:52.920 vote to remove
00:27:53.880 him from office,
00:27:54.800 it's like the
00:27:55.640 impeachment has
00:27:56.920 been nullified and
00:27:57.760 went away.
00:27:58.680 Of course,
00:28:00.100 Democrats don't
00:28:00.820 like that
00:28:01.300 interpretation at
00:28:02.180 all, and in a
00:28:03.640 way it's just
00:28:04.120 word thinking, but
00:28:04.940 it's worse than
00:28:05.480 that.
00:28:06.440 It's analogy
00:28:07.220 thinking.
00:28:07.640 So, saying
00:28:09.200 that impeachment
00:28:09.780 is analogous to
00:28:11.520 a criminal trial
00:28:12.320 just makes people
00:28:13.500 say, no, it's
00:28:14.540 not, because of
00:28:16.780 these differences.
00:28:17.900 Now, there are
00:28:18.320 some differences, so
00:28:19.080 I'm going to add
00:28:19.580 this thought to
00:28:20.920 it.
00:28:21.440 And again, this is
00:28:22.160 just for fun.
00:28:23.340 It makes no
00:28:24.200 difference what you
00:28:24.900 call it.
00:28:25.600 It just will drive
00:28:26.440 people crazy.
00:28:27.660 The argument goes
00:28:28.360 like this.
00:28:29.300 If you wanted to
00:28:30.240 compare it to a
00:28:30.980 criminal trial, you're
00:28:33.080 doing it wrong.
00:28:33.780 Because in a
00:28:35.260 criminal trial, you
00:28:36.200 have the indictment,
00:28:37.120 which is like a
00:28:37.960 mini-trial where
00:28:39.420 some evidence is
00:28:40.360 presented, but it's
00:28:41.260 not the full thing.
00:28:42.860 And it's not until
00:28:43.780 you have the real
00:28:44.440 trial that everybody
00:28:46.080 sees all of the
00:28:47.000 evidence and all of
00:28:48.280 the arguments.
00:28:49.940 So, in that case, it
00:28:51.360 makes sense that the
00:28:52.400 only real trial is the
00:28:53.980 trial, and the other
00:28:55.060 one sort of didn't
00:28:55.980 count.
00:28:56.660 So, if the trial
00:28:57.440 doesn't work, it
00:28:59.120 makes perfect sense
00:28:59.980 that the indictment
00:29:00.940 goes away as well.
00:29:02.260 But in the
00:29:04.560 impeachment, you've
00:29:05.120 got two votes.
00:29:06.920 Instead of one jury
00:29:08.260 trial, you've got the
00:29:09.740 House votes to send
00:29:11.280 it to the Senate, and
00:29:12.000 then the Senate has to
00:29:12.720 vote again to remove.
00:29:14.160 Now, let me ask you
00:29:14.920 this.
00:29:15.140 What is the point of
00:29:17.220 impeaching?
00:29:18.940 The only point of
00:29:20.200 impeaching, at least in
00:29:22.320 terms of constitutional
00:29:23.320 reasons, is to remove
00:29:25.260 somebody from office.
00:29:26.800 So, if you have an
00:29:28.000 impeachment without the
00:29:30.120 removing from office,
00:29:31.360 have you impeached, or
00:29:34.600 is it simply an
00:29:35.440 attempted impeachment
00:29:36.300 that failed?
00:29:38.020 And I would add this
00:29:38.980 to it.
00:29:39.840 I would say that you
00:29:40.860 are, if you're going
00:29:41.800 to use the analogy to
00:29:43.340 a jury trial, which
00:29:44.720 again is completely
00:29:45.480 irrational.
00:29:46.220 This is just for fun.
00:29:47.740 Analogies are no way
00:29:49.120 to argue.
00:29:50.300 But if you wanted to
00:29:51.120 for fun, to drive a
00:29:52.460 Democrat crazy, you
00:29:54.120 would say, you know,
00:29:54.920 if you want to make
00:29:55.500 that analogy to a
00:29:56.400 criminal trial, I
00:29:57.960 would say that in
00:29:58.600 impeachment, the jury
00:30:00.560 is the combined
00:30:02.920 House that votes
00:30:04.500 plus the Senate.
00:30:07.120 In other words, they're
00:30:08.320 all looking at the same
00:30:09.400 trial, which happens in
00:30:11.180 the House.
00:30:12.060 Because the Senate
00:30:12.920 doesn't have a separate
00:30:13.760 trial, the Senate is
00:30:16.020 just voting on what
00:30:18.620 they see, which is the
00:30:20.100 same thing that the
00:30:20.820 House saw.
00:30:21.840 So it's as if the
00:30:23.900 House plus the Senate
00:30:25.420 are just one jury trial,
00:30:26.880 they just vote in two
00:30:27.860 parts.
00:30:28.920 So if you have a one
00:30:30.440 jury trial, and the
00:30:32.380 sum of that is that
00:30:34.120 they find him
00:30:34.880 acquitted, would it
00:30:37.180 not make sense that
00:30:39.800 the impeachment, which
00:30:40.720 only had one purpose,
00:30:42.320 to remove somebody from
00:30:43.620 office, if it didn't
00:30:44.400 happen, I would say the
00:30:47.000 impeachment didn't
00:30:47.660 happen.
00:30:49.120 So I'm adding that to
00:30:50.660 the mix.
00:30:51.680 I don't think that makes
00:30:52.920 much difference.
00:30:53.900 All right, let's talk
00:30:54.580 about the coronavirus.
00:30:56.880 A Chinese ambassador
00:30:58.860 to the United States
00:30:59.660 was on face of the
00:31:00.420 nation, and was asked
00:31:02.120 if the coronavirus could
00:31:05.720 have come from a
00:31:06.700 biolab in China.
00:31:09.300 Now, have I taught you
00:31:10.340 how to detect lying?
00:31:13.020 Let me give you an
00:31:14.000 example of a liar versus
00:31:16.700 an honest person.
00:31:18.140 I would like to call in
00:31:19.560 my assistant, Dale.
00:31:21.800 I'm going to accuse
00:31:24.060 Dale of something he
00:31:26.280 did not do, and I want
00:31:28.180 you to show how somebody
00:31:29.120 answers the question
00:31:30.340 honestly.
00:31:31.560 In this example, Dale is
00:31:33.040 completely innocent.
00:31:34.780 Dale, are you a serial
00:31:37.120 killer who just killed
00:31:39.040 15 people yesterday?
00:31:42.020 No.
00:31:42.940 What the hell are you
00:31:43.900 talking about?
00:31:44.640 Get out of here with
00:31:45.440 that.
00:31:45.980 I'll kill you.
00:31:46.860 I'm going to sue you if
00:31:47.820 you tell anybody like
00:31:48.600 that.
00:31:48.840 That's ridiculous.
00:31:52.680 If the person says no
00:31:54.480 and gets a little angry
00:31:55.760 and wonders what the
00:31:57.520 hell is wrong with you
00:31:58.420 for even asking the
00:31:59.360 question, probably
00:32:01.660 telling you the truth.
00:32:03.420 Now, I'm going to give
00:32:04.260 you a second example in
00:32:05.940 which Dale is guilty.
00:32:08.820 All right?
00:32:09.560 In this example, he's
00:32:10.880 actually guilty.
00:32:12.540 Dale, are you a serial
00:32:14.280 killer, and did you kill
00:32:15.260 somebody yesterday?
00:32:16.060 Why would you ask that
00:32:19.540 question?
00:32:21.220 I think there's not
00:32:22.460 really much evidence of
00:32:23.780 who did the killing.
00:32:25.580 It's kind of ambiguous.
00:32:27.060 People are looking at the
00:32:28.340 evidence.
00:32:28.880 They're trying to figure
00:32:29.720 that out.
00:32:30.700 What have you heard?
00:32:33.640 That's guilty.
00:32:35.820 Innocent people say, no.
00:32:37.880 What the hell are you
00:32:38.780 talking about?
00:32:40.480 Guilty people say, well,
00:32:42.680 I'm going to leave the
00:32:43.420 door open.
00:32:43.920 I'm not sure I'll give
00:32:44.700 you an exact answer.
00:32:46.160 What do you know?
00:32:47.180 What do you know?
00:32:48.720 Now, I'm going to play
00:32:49.540 for you the ambassador
00:32:51.640 to the United States.
00:32:53.860 His name, I don't know
00:32:55.040 if I can pronounce it
00:32:55.800 right.
00:32:56.040 I hope I do.
00:32:56.760 Ambassador, I think it's
00:32:58.900 Kwee Tienke.
00:33:01.800 Maybe Swee or Kwee.
00:33:03.380 I think it's Kwee Tienke.
00:33:05.640 So, he'll be asked on
00:33:06.800 Face the Nation.
00:33:07.620 I'll play it for you.
00:33:08.760 Now, listen to his
00:33:09.560 answer after this setup.
00:33:11.900 Because it also gets
00:33:12.800 at, there's a lot of
00:33:14.260 unknown and a lot of
00:33:16.000 suspicion because of
00:33:17.220 that.
00:33:17.560 And in fact, this week,
00:33:19.380 Senator Tom Cotton, who
00:33:21.200 sits on the Senate
00:33:21.940 Intelligence and Armed
00:33:23.260 Services Committee,
00:33:24.660 suggested that the virus
00:33:26.000 may have come from
00:33:26.780 China's biological
00:33:27.980 warfare program.
00:33:29.860 That's an extraordinary
00:33:31.140 charge.
00:33:31.900 Yeah, it's one you
00:33:32.560 say no to.
00:33:33.280 How do you respond to that?
00:33:33.520 I think it's true that a
00:33:36.940 lot is still unknown.
00:33:38.420 What?
00:33:38.520 And our scientists,
00:33:39.920 Chinese scientists,
00:33:41.220 American scientists,
00:33:42.560 scientists of other
00:33:43.240 countries are doing their
00:33:44.180 best to learn more about
00:33:45.740 the virus.
00:33:46.420 What?
00:33:46.840 But it's very harmful.
00:33:48.280 It's very dangerous to
00:33:50.020 stir up suspicion, rumors,
00:33:52.340 and spread them among the
00:33:53.620 people.
00:33:54.400 For one thing, this will
00:33:55.300 create panic.
00:33:56.800 Another thing is that it
00:33:57.980 will fend up racial
00:34:00.260 discrimination, xenophobia,
00:34:01.700 all these things that
00:34:03.140 will really harm our
00:34:04.400 efforts to combat the
00:34:06.580 virus.
00:34:07.440 Of course, there are all
00:34:08.980 kinds of speculations and
00:34:10.380 rumors.
00:34:11.740 There are people who are
00:34:12.620 saying that these virus
00:34:13.680 are coming from some
00:34:15.820 military left, not of
00:34:17.160 China, maybe in the
00:34:18.180 United States.
00:34:18.840 Yeah, maybe the
00:34:19.320 United States.
00:34:19.680 How can we believe all
00:34:21.520 these crazy things?
00:34:22.580 How can we believe all
00:34:23.320 these crazy things?
00:34:23.920 It's crazy.
00:34:24.580 Where did the virus
00:34:25.160 come from?
00:34:25.580 It's absolutely crazy.
00:34:26.960 Where did the virus
00:34:27.060 come from?
00:34:28.420 We still don't know yet.
00:34:29.440 It's probably, according
00:34:31.060 to some initial outcome
00:34:32.620 of the research, probably
00:34:34.840 coming from some
00:34:36.180 animals.
00:34:37.120 But we have to discover
00:34:39.040 more.
00:34:40.340 There's a lot of
00:34:41.400 unknown.
00:34:42.340 So, did that sound
00:34:44.960 like a no?
00:34:46.820 Now, I would add this.
00:34:48.960 It seems unlikely to me
00:34:50.980 that the ambassador would
00:34:52.160 actually know the truth.
00:34:54.280 Because, let's say
00:34:55.680 hypothetically it was a
00:34:56.860 bioweapon.
00:34:57.440 would the people who
00:35:00.780 know it's a bioweapon,
00:35:01.940 again, hypothetically,
00:35:03.540 would they tell their
00:35:04.560 ambassador?
00:35:06.180 No.
00:35:06.920 No, they would not
00:35:07.700 tell their ambassador.
00:35:09.200 So, the first thing you
00:35:10.240 should know is the
00:35:10.920 ambassador doesn't know.
00:35:12.500 He doesn't know if it's
00:35:13.280 a bioweapon, because
00:35:14.060 they would never tell
00:35:14.760 him.
00:35:15.500 Because you wouldn't
00:35:16.280 want him talking to
00:35:17.320 anybody else and
00:35:18.120 saying, you know,
00:35:19.100 hey, Bob, don't tell
00:35:20.660 anybody, but it was us.
00:35:22.460 It was a bioweapon.
00:35:23.700 Because, you know, we've
00:35:24.340 got, you know that we
00:35:25.800 have this guy bugged
00:35:26.800 from top to bottom.
00:35:28.180 There's nothing he could
00:35:28.980 ever say that we
00:35:29.840 wouldn't know he's
00:35:30.480 saying.
00:35:31.040 You know, even on
00:35:32.720 encrypted lines, we
00:35:33.820 probably can get into
00:35:35.100 all of that.
00:35:36.480 So, I doubt that if
00:35:39.480 China knew it was a
00:35:40.520 bioweapon, if they knew
00:35:41.440 it was theirs, just
00:35:42.060 hypothetically, there's
00:35:43.160 no way they're going to
00:35:43.800 tell their ambassador.
00:35:45.040 That would be crazy.
00:35:46.600 But let me ask you
00:35:47.400 this.
00:35:48.040 If you're the
00:35:48.700 ambassador, if you're
00:35:50.960 the ambassador and you
00:35:51.980 know that you're going
00:35:52.620 to be asked this
00:35:53.380 question, wouldn't
00:35:55.160 you go to your
00:35:55.940 bosses, whether
00:35:58.100 that's President Xi
00:35:59.140 or somebody else
00:36:00.400 high up, wouldn't
00:36:01.480 you go to your
00:36:02.040 bosses and say
00:36:03.100 something like this?
00:36:05.060 Hey, boss, I'm
00:36:06.720 going to get this
00:36:07.480 question.
00:36:08.520 They're going to
00:36:08.980 ask if it came from
00:36:10.040 our bio lab.
00:36:11.860 Can I deny it
00:36:13.040 flatly?
00:36:17.200 Apparently, nobody
00:36:18.380 told them to deny
00:36:19.420 it flatly.
00:36:21.080 Why would they not
00:36:22.320 deny it?
00:36:23.380 When it would be
00:36:25.560 such a bad thing if
00:36:26.760 we were left to
00:36:27.620 suspect it was
00:36:28.420 true.
00:36:29.860 What recent history
00:36:31.040 have we seen in
00:36:32.920 which a government
00:36:33.720 got caught doing
00:36:34.900 something terrible
00:36:35.940 that killed its own
00:36:37.900 people and
00:36:39.440 initially denied
00:36:40.760 it?
00:36:42.120 Where have we seen
00:36:43.160 that recently?
00:36:45.440 Iran.
00:36:46.740 Iran denied that
00:36:47.960 they shot down the
00:36:49.140 Ukraine airline.
00:36:50.000 And then, when they
00:36:51.940 got cornered, they
00:36:53.000 had to come clean.
00:36:54.500 What did that do to
00:36:56.460 the government of
00:36:57.300 Iran?
00:36:59.220 Destabilized it.
00:37:00.340 A lot.
00:37:01.600 It was a gigantic
00:37:03.180 mistake for Iran to
00:37:05.300 try to cover up
00:37:06.200 something that
00:37:06.800 ultimately would
00:37:07.680 certainly be
00:37:08.260 discovered.
00:37:09.380 Just a complete
00:37:10.520 mistake.
00:37:11.240 China might not
00:37:14.240 want to make the
00:37:14.860 same mistake.
00:37:16.200 And one way that
00:37:16.880 you could avoid
00:37:17.500 making that mistake
00:37:18.540 is to leave
00:37:20.480 open the door
00:37:21.200 that we just
00:37:22.420 don't know what
00:37:22.920 it is.
00:37:23.860 Because then, if it
00:37:24.520 turns out that
00:37:25.400 some, I don't
00:37:26.980 know, hypothetically,
00:37:27.700 if we could
00:37:28.300 somehow prove it
00:37:29.820 came from their
00:37:30.540 bioweapons lab,
00:37:31.760 and I don't know
00:37:32.260 that that happened,
00:37:33.440 but if it
00:37:34.300 happened, they
00:37:35.520 would still be a
00:37:36.500 little bit cleaner
00:37:37.320 than Iran's
00:37:39.100 leadership was,
00:37:39.880 which flatly said
00:37:40.960 it didn't happen.
00:37:42.680 China did not
00:37:43.620 flatly say it,
00:37:44.880 say that they
00:37:45.700 were innocent.
00:37:46.580 They didn't say
00:37:47.140 it.
00:37:48.160 Worse, I taught
00:37:49.800 you that a
00:37:50.540 hypnotist learned
00:37:51.380 that people say
00:37:52.140 exactly the
00:37:53.480 truth, but
00:37:54.820 accidentally.
00:37:55.840 In other words,
00:37:56.400 their choice of
00:37:57.120 words is a
00:37:59.340 tip-off.
00:38:00.540 Listen to the
00:38:01.640 first word he
00:38:02.560 says.
00:38:05.700 Just wait for
00:38:06.220 his first words.
00:38:09.880 Listen, how
00:38:19.540 do you respond
00:38:20.140 to that?
00:38:20.360 How do you
00:38:20.540 respond?
00:38:22.120 I think it's
00:38:22.760 true that a lot
00:38:24.100 is still unknown.
00:38:25.620 And I'll say?
00:38:26.800 I think that
00:38:27.520 it's true.
00:38:28.920 Now, the
00:38:29.480 second part of
00:38:30.400 that sentence
00:38:30.880 is, it's true
00:38:32.360 that it's unknown,
00:38:33.880 which isn't even
00:38:35.120 an answer to
00:38:36.080 the question,
00:38:36.640 right?
00:38:37.420 It's true that
00:38:38.240 it's unknown?
00:38:38.740 She didn't
00:38:39.300 say, can you
00:38:42.040 address the
00:38:42.640 unknown?
00:38:43.680 She said, did
00:38:44.760 it come from
00:38:45.380 your bio lab?
00:38:47.020 And his first
00:38:47.700 words were, it's
00:38:49.400 true that we
00:38:51.800 don't know where
00:38:52.460 it came from.
00:38:54.460 So, a
00:38:55.480 hypnotist would
00:38:56.220 say that is a
00:38:57.700 Freudian type of
00:38:59.040 slip in which he
00:38:59.760 told you directly
00:39:00.480 that it's true.
00:39:01.600 Now, I don't
00:39:02.640 think he knows
00:39:03.200 whether it's true
00:39:03.760 or not, but he's
00:39:05.100 probably heard
00:39:05.840 better rumors than
00:39:06.700 we have, if you
00:39:07.460 know what I mean.
00:39:08.040 And he sounds
00:39:09.280 like he suspects
00:39:10.120 it's true.
00:39:11.780 Now, we can't
00:39:12.680 read his mind, but
00:39:13.720 the choice of
00:39:14.520 words leaves
00:39:15.500 that open.
00:39:17.620 All right.
00:39:18.260 Let us go
00:39:19.460 through the
00:39:20.760 facts and
00:39:23.660 the evidence
00:39:24.160 and see if we
00:39:25.300 can get closer
00:39:26.100 to understanding
00:39:27.240 something about
00:39:29.260 this coronavirus.
00:39:31.740 All right.
00:39:32.460 So, here are
00:39:33.760 some facts that
00:39:35.340 seem relevant
00:39:36.200 and, you know,
00:39:37.800 important.
00:39:38.560 It's not every
00:39:39.260 fact about the
00:39:40.700 coronavirus, but
00:39:42.980 they're the ones
00:39:43.400 that matter if
00:39:44.320 you're trying to
00:39:44.780 decide, was it
00:39:46.080 an animal and an
00:39:46.960 accident or a
00:39:47.920 bioweapons thing?
00:39:49.500 So, here are some
00:39:50.140 of the things.
00:39:51.180 Is it super
00:39:52.020 viral?
00:39:53.500 Don't really
00:39:54.220 know.
00:39:55.240 It seems it's
00:39:56.360 difficult to find
00:39:57.460 out if we're
00:39:58.220 counting everything
00:39:59.120 right.
00:39:59.520 So, we
00:40:00.440 actually don't
00:40:01.160 know if it's
00:40:02.480 more viral than,
00:40:04.100 let's say, a
00:40:04.840 normal virus would
00:40:05.740 be that came
00:40:06.260 from an animal.
00:40:08.300 Does it only
00:40:08.900 kill people who
00:40:10.780 are ethnically
00:40:11.640 Chinese or
00:40:13.400 Asian?
00:40:14.480 We don't
00:40:15.200 know, but
00:40:16.420 there's some
00:40:16.960 indication that
00:40:18.880 there's a
00:40:19.280 difference.
00:40:21.180 And I'll get
00:40:22.160 to these in a
00:40:22.640 minute.
00:40:23.140 We know that
00:40:23.680 it's near the
00:40:24.260 Wuhan Bioweapon
00:40:25.420 Lab.
00:40:25.860 Is that a
00:40:26.240 coincidence?
00:40:27.220 It would be a
00:40:27.520 pretty big one.
00:40:28.040 we know that
00:40:29.560 China is lying,
00:40:30.840 but they always
00:40:31.620 lie, so that
00:40:32.480 doesn't tell you
00:40:33.040 much.
00:40:33.820 And we know
00:40:34.520 that the
00:40:34.820 ambassador was
00:40:35.660 weirdly vague
00:40:36.520 about this.
00:40:37.720 That's a red
00:40:38.480 flag.
00:40:39.240 And we know
00:40:39.900 that the U.S.
00:40:41.160 did not act as
00:40:43.220 concerned as
00:40:45.080 some people
00:40:45.600 thought they
00:40:46.080 should.
00:40:47.040 In other
00:40:47.340 words, they
00:40:47.680 didn't immediately
00:40:48.420 close the
00:40:49.220 airport.
00:40:50.420 Why?
00:40:51.420 Did they know
00:40:52.200 something about
00:40:52.840 it that we
00:40:54.300 don't?
00:40:56.160 So, let's
00:40:57.780 take these and
00:40:58.980 decide whether
00:41:01.080 it's more
00:41:01.720 likely that it
00:41:02.340 was an
00:41:02.580 animal or a
00:41:03.280 bioweapon.
00:41:04.120 Now, let's
00:41:04.520 say the only
00:41:05.060 things you
00:41:05.560 knew is that
00:41:06.520 there was a
00:41:06.960 virus that
00:41:07.500 acted a
00:41:08.000 certain way,
00:41:09.340 and there
00:41:10.560 are two
00:41:11.120 theories.
00:41:11.660 One is that
00:41:12.100 it's a
00:41:12.360 bioweapon and
00:41:13.040 one is that
00:41:13.360 it came from
00:41:13.780 an animal.
00:41:14.620 If that's all
00:41:15.360 you knew, there
00:41:16.500 were no other
00:41:17.060 facts, you
00:41:17.660 didn't know
00:41:17.980 any of this,
00:41:19.380 all you knew
00:41:19.960 is it's another
00:41:21.140 one of these
00:41:21.680 coronavirus things
00:41:23.220 that usually
00:41:24.000 come from
00:41:24.420 animals, which
00:41:26.380 would be the
00:41:26.820 more likely
00:41:27.320 explanation.
00:41:29.220 Well, I hate
00:41:30.500 to make this
00:41:30.980 less interesting
00:41:31.740 than it could
00:41:32.280 be, but by
00:41:34.200 far, the
00:41:35.420 normal explanation
00:41:36.460 is far and
00:41:38.540 away the most
00:41:39.120 likely explanation
00:41:40.020 because that's
00:41:41.440 normal.
00:41:42.940 Animal to
00:41:43.700 human is
00:41:44.120 normal.
00:41:44.500 It happens
00:41:44.780 all the time.
00:41:45.760 How often has
00:41:46.920 a bioweapon
00:41:47.800 escaped from
00:41:48.620 a lab?
00:41:50.140 I don't know,
00:41:50.760 never.
00:41:51.000 So one of
00:41:52.840 these is
00:41:53.280 really exotic
00:41:54.000 and it would
00:41:55.500 be hard to
00:41:56.820 believe.
00:41:57.680 The other
00:41:58.140 one is
00:41:58.360 completely
00:41:58.700 normal.
00:41:59.840 But let's
00:42:00.380 look at the
00:42:00.780 facts and
00:42:01.440 see if one
00:42:02.200 of them
00:42:02.460 fits better.
00:42:03.920 If it's
00:42:04.660 super viral,
00:42:06.000 does that
00:42:06.660 tell you it's
00:42:07.100 a bioweapon?
00:42:08.940 Maybe, but
00:42:10.120 we don't know
00:42:10.680 that it's
00:42:11.040 super viral.
00:42:12.440 And we
00:42:13.100 also don't
00:42:13.640 know what
00:42:14.360 is the most
00:42:15.260 viral that
00:42:16.060 something could
00:42:16.700 be coming
00:42:17.220 from an
00:42:17.640 animal.
00:42:18.320 So I'd
00:42:18.660 say the
00:42:18.980 super virality
00:42:19.980 of it is
00:42:20.880 first of
00:42:21.260 all unknown
00:42:21.980 and so it
00:42:22.940 doesn't tell
00:42:23.320 you anything.
00:42:25.180 How about
00:42:25.840 the fact that
00:42:26.380 it might only
00:42:26.920 kill a certain
00:42:27.500 kind of
00:42:27.900 person?
00:42:28.780 Well, that
00:42:29.560 would indicate
00:42:30.300 it's a
00:42:30.840 bioweapon,
00:42:31.420 right?
00:42:32.640 It turns
00:42:33.260 out no.
00:42:34.780 No.
00:42:35.780 Because we
00:42:36.800 know that
00:42:37.280 there's
00:42:37.540 experience with
00:42:38.300 other viruses,
00:42:39.520 that there
00:42:40.400 are micro
00:42:41.260 differences in
00:42:42.380 ethnicities,
00:42:43.840 and sometimes
00:42:44.520 that micro
00:42:45.620 difference,
00:42:46.600 and it could
00:42:47.120 be just,
00:42:48.620 some have
00:42:49.160 said that
00:42:49.500 the receptors
00:42:50.440 a certain
00:42:51.140 kind of,
00:42:51.760 you know,
00:42:52.080 what is
00:42:52.340 it,
00:42:53.160 I don't
00:42:54.740 know,
00:42:55.000 ACE2
00:42:55.520 receptor or
00:42:56.460 something in
00:42:56.920 the lungs
00:42:57.380 is different
00:42:57.960 with Asian
00:42:59.220 men than
00:43:00.660 with anybody
00:43:01.160 else,
00:43:01.840 and that
00:43:02.240 those are
00:43:02.960 the ones
00:43:03.300 that SARS
00:43:04.600 and coronavirus
00:43:06.400 stick to.
00:43:07.920 So,
00:43:08.880 it's possible
00:43:09.560 you could
00:43:10.240 have a
00:43:10.840 normally
00:43:11.440 occurring
00:43:11.900 virus that
00:43:12.520 comes from
00:43:12.940 an animal
00:43:13.380 and actually
00:43:14.060 seems to
00:43:15.060 target one
00:43:15.600 ethnicity
00:43:16.060 more than
00:43:16.560 others.
00:43:17.360 Completely
00:43:17.820 possible.
00:43:18.260 Yeah,
00:43:19.380 it's like
00:43:20.180 the ACE2
00:43:20.760 receptors,
00:43:21.440 that's one
00:43:22.100 hypothesis
00:43:22.840 out there.
00:43:23.860 So,
00:43:24.160 the first
00:43:24.460 two are
00:43:25.960 ambiguous,
00:43:27.280 meaning it
00:43:27.940 doesn't really
00:43:28.420 tell you
00:43:28.820 anything about
00:43:29.420 which option
00:43:30.320 it is.
00:43:31.100 Now,
00:43:31.340 how about
00:43:31.540 the fact
00:43:31.900 it was
00:43:32.160 near the
00:43:33.420 main
00:43:33.740 bioweapon
00:43:34.440 place?
00:43:36.120 What about
00:43:36.500 that?
00:43:37.400 What are
00:43:38.060 the odds
00:43:38.740 that this
00:43:40.180 virus that's
00:43:41.040 so scary
00:43:41.680 would just
00:43:43.120 naturally
00:43:44.220 and coincidentally
00:43:45.260 come out
00:43:46.820 right next
00:43:47.880 to a
00:43:48.280 bioweapons
00:43:49.160 lab?
00:43:50.600 What are
00:43:50.920 the odds
00:43:51.320 of that?
00:43:52.760 Don't be
00:43:53.300 fooled.
00:43:54.360 Because here's
00:43:55.040 what the
00:43:56.220 trick is.
00:43:57.460 You know,
00:43:57.780 we can
00:43:58.060 easily be
00:43:58.800 fooled to
00:43:59.280 think coincidences
00:44:00.280 mean something.
00:44:01.700 Here's how
00:44:02.260 you should
00:44:02.600 see this.
00:44:04.140 There's one
00:44:04.920 coincidence we
00:44:05.680 know about
00:44:06.220 that that
00:44:07.600 bioweapons
00:44:08.360 lab was
00:44:09.460 nearby where
00:44:10.160 it started.
00:44:11.500 But you
00:44:12.220 could almost
00:44:12.940 guarantee
00:44:13.420 that there
00:44:14.720 would be
00:44:15.040 some
00:44:15.480 coincidences
00:44:16.260 in this
00:44:16.920 story.
00:44:17.660 Because
00:44:18.140 coincidences
00:44:18.900 are so
00:44:19.600 common
00:44:20.080 that
00:44:21.360 you'd be
00:44:22.720 surprised if
00:44:23.400 there weren't
00:44:24.080 one.
00:44:24.740 Now,
00:44:25.040 the odds
00:44:25.320 of that
00:44:25.660 specific
00:44:26.420 coincidence
00:44:27.120 may be
00:44:28.300 one in
00:44:28.940 several
00:44:29.600 thousand.
00:44:30.380 Very
00:44:30.860 unlikely.
00:44:32.260 But
00:44:32.620 the odds
00:44:33.920 of some
00:44:34.880 coincidence
00:44:35.460 that is
00:44:36.100 also
00:44:36.420 unlikely
00:44:36.960 was very
00:44:38.100 good.
00:44:39.020 So the
00:44:39.560 odds of
00:44:39.920 some
00:44:40.260 coincidence
00:44:40.720 was very
00:44:41.420 high.
00:44:41.780 and that's
00:44:43.340 what you
00:44:43.580 should be
00:44:43.840 looking at,
00:44:44.440 not the
00:44:44.900 odds that
00:44:45.520 this
00:44:45.720 specific
00:44:46.200 one was
00:44:46.700 uncommon.
00:44:47.760 Because
00:44:48.060 something
00:44:48.600 uncommon
00:44:49.220 was likely
00:44:50.680 to have
00:44:51.040 happened,
00:44:51.640 if not
00:44:52.100 this,
00:44:52.580 something
00:44:52.980 else.
00:44:53.660 So you
00:44:54.020 can't
00:44:54.400 really
00:44:54.720 rule out
00:44:55.440 that it
00:44:56.580 was just
00:44:56.880 an animal.
00:44:57.880 It's a
00:44:58.240 coincidence.
00:45:00.300 What about
00:45:01.480 the fact that
00:45:01.980 China is
00:45:02.440 obviously
00:45:03.000 lying about
00:45:03.680 this thing?
00:45:04.500 Does that
00:45:04.880 tell you
00:45:05.220 that it's
00:45:05.540 a bioweapon?
00:45:07.560 Unfortunately,
00:45:08.360 no.
00:45:09.220 Because China
00:45:09.860 lies about
00:45:10.420 anything that
00:45:11.000 would make
00:45:11.300 China look
00:45:11.800 bad,
00:45:12.500 so whether
00:45:13.020 it started
00:45:13.680 with an
00:45:14.060 animal or
00:45:14.580 it was a
00:45:14.940 bioweapon,
00:45:16.100 you're probably
00:45:16.920 going to
00:45:17.300 suspect that
00:45:18.040 they're lying
00:45:18.580 even if
00:45:19.040 they're not.
00:45:19.920 So this
00:45:20.320 doesn't really
00:45:20.740 tell you as
00:45:21.180 much as
00:45:21.560 you'd think.
00:45:22.740 What about
00:45:23.340 the fact that
00:45:23.840 we just
00:45:24.100 talked about
00:45:24.600 the ambassador
00:45:25.620 being vague
00:45:26.580 and looking
00:45:28.140 like he was
00:45:28.700 lying about
00:45:29.220 it?
00:45:30.020 Well,
00:45:30.660 I don't
00:45:31.140 think he
00:45:31.500 knows.
00:45:34.180 Common sense
00:45:35.040 tells you he
00:45:35.620 doesn't know.
00:45:37.200 So he
00:45:37.820 can't tell you
00:45:38.380 anything.
00:45:39.100 And it
00:45:39.400 makes sense
00:45:39.840 if you're an
00:45:40.260 ambassador to
00:45:40.980 leave open
00:45:41.540 all your
00:45:41.900 options.
00:45:42.700 So it
00:45:43.060 could be
00:45:43.340 that he's
00:45:43.700 doing nothing
00:45:44.220 but leaving
00:45:44.720 his options
00:45:45.260 open,
00:45:45.660 but he
00:45:45.860 doesn't
00:45:46.080 really know.
00:45:46.980 So you
00:45:47.600 can't really
00:45:48.000 determine from
00:45:48.640 him.
00:45:49.640 What about
00:45:50.180 the fact that
00:45:50.720 the U.S.
00:45:51.180 seemed a little
00:45:51.840 underconcerned?
00:45:53.900 Could it be?
00:45:55.220 Because we
00:45:56.100 know it's a
00:45:56.600 bioweapon that
00:45:57.320 only kills
00:45:58.120 people,
00:46:00.160 you know,
00:46:00.320 a certain
00:46:00.620 ethnic group,
00:46:01.360 and it would
00:46:01.700 be hard for
00:46:02.300 that to take
00:46:02.780 hold in this
00:46:03.340 country because
00:46:04.000 we're screening
00:46:04.820 pretty well.
00:46:05.400 well, so
00:46:06.200 maybe the
00:46:07.480 U.S.
00:46:08.440 knows more
00:46:09.180 than you
00:46:09.580 and I
00:46:09.860 know, in
00:46:10.340 other words,
00:46:10.660 the government
00:46:10.980 does, and
00:46:11.960 maybe they
00:46:12.420 didn't think
00:46:12.780 it was such
00:46:13.140 a big risk
00:46:13.740 to us.
00:46:16.720 But far
00:46:17.420 more likely,
00:46:18.460 the government
00:46:19.000 just acted
00:46:19.660 slowly because
00:46:20.480 there were
00:46:20.800 competing
00:46:21.240 interests.
00:46:22.360 Probably there
00:46:22.980 were people
00:46:23.320 who said,
00:46:23.780 no, we'll
00:46:24.580 lose a lot
00:46:25.020 of money if
00:46:25.460 you close
00:46:25.880 down the
00:46:26.280 airports.
00:46:27.260 Other people
00:46:27.960 saying, no,
00:46:28.580 we don't want
00:46:29.080 to insult
00:46:29.600 China.
00:46:30.460 It would look
00:46:31.100 like a slap
00:46:31.660 in the face.
00:46:32.360 That will cost
00:46:33.000 us later when
00:46:33.700 we're negotiating
00:46:34.380 for the trade
00:46:34.940 deal.
00:46:35.700 So you
00:46:36.080 can't rule
00:46:37.400 out it
00:46:38.380 was just
00:46:38.760 the government
00:46:39.260 being the
00:46:39.780 government and
00:46:40.460 having competing
00:46:41.160 interests and
00:46:41.780 acting too
00:46:42.320 slowly.
00:46:43.640 So all of
00:46:44.540 these facts
00:46:45.160 support both
00:46:46.800 hypotheses.
00:46:48.760 But one of
00:46:49.580 them happens
00:46:50.380 all the time,
00:46:51.840 at least we
00:46:52.560 know it's
00:46:52.900 happened before,
00:46:53.740 and one of
00:46:54.260 them has
00:46:54.520 never happened.
00:46:56.500 So, so
00:46:57.720 far, I'd
00:46:59.100 have to say
00:46:59.640 by far the
00:47:00.640 most likely
00:47:01.160 explanation is
00:47:01.940 it's an
00:47:02.660 animal, it's
00:47:03.800 a coincidence,
00:47:04.380 where it
00:47:04.800 was, etc.
00:47:05.860 But those
00:47:06.780 are not the
00:47:07.120 only possibilities.
00:47:09.320 So just
00:47:10.060 drawing this
00:47:10.760 out, if it
00:47:11.860 were a
00:47:12.160 bioweapon,
00:47:13.160 again, I'm
00:47:13.840 not saying it
00:47:14.460 is, I'm just
00:47:15.060 walking through
00:47:15.580 the thinking
00:47:16.280 here, if it
00:47:17.120 were a
00:47:17.360 bioweapon,
00:47:18.600 it's either
00:47:19.320 made by
00:47:19.720 China or
00:47:20.860 made by an
00:47:21.460 enemy of
00:47:21.900 China.
00:47:24.220 I think
00:47:24.840 that's
00:47:25.060 reasonable,
00:47:25.560 right?
00:47:26.560 If China
00:47:27.300 made it, I
00:47:28.500 think you'd
00:47:28.860 have to call
00:47:29.280 it a mistake.
00:47:30.240 In other
00:47:30.500 words, something
00:47:31.260 got out that
00:47:32.020 shouldn't have
00:47:32.400 gotten out.
00:47:32.920 Now, if it
00:47:34.400 turns out that
00:47:35.160 it's only
00:47:35.540 killing mostly
00:47:38.120 local Chinese,
00:47:39.500 ethnically Chinese
00:47:40.480 folks, whether
00:47:41.780 they're American
00:47:42.400 citizenship or
00:47:43.400 not, you'd have
00:47:45.360 to say, that's a
00:47:46.300 really big mistake,
00:47:47.760 because why would
00:47:48.380 they release
00:47:49.000 something that
00:47:49.540 only kills their
00:47:50.240 own people?
00:47:51.440 That would be the
00:47:51.980 biggest mistake you
00:47:52.760 could make.
00:47:53.080 And why would
00:47:53.500 they be building,
00:47:54.700 why would China
00:47:55.280 make a bioweapon
00:47:56.200 that kills them
00:47:57.840 faster than it
00:47:58.700 kills their
00:47:59.140 enemies?
00:47:59.480 It doesn't
00:48:00.560 make sense,
00:48:01.080 right?
00:48:01.720 Well, it is
00:48:02.380 possible, under
00:48:03.440 the mistake
00:48:04.000 scenario, that
00:48:05.540 they have lots
00:48:06.300 of, let's say
00:48:07.680 there are lots
00:48:08.240 of viruses that
00:48:09.240 they're working
00:48:09.720 on, and they
00:48:10.640 haven't tested
00:48:11.300 them all, so
00:48:12.460 they don't know
00:48:12.920 exactly which
00:48:13.660 ones do what.
00:48:14.920 So maybe this
00:48:16.220 was on the
00:48:16.740 list, hasn't
00:48:18.100 been tested,
00:48:18.780 they didn't
00:48:19.120 know it would
00:48:19.560 affect one
00:48:20.200 group more
00:48:20.660 than another,
00:48:21.500 because they
00:48:21.840 hadn't tested
00:48:22.340 it, and it
00:48:22.780 got out.
00:48:23.140 So, China
00:48:25.640 made a mistake,
00:48:26.880 totally feasible,
00:48:29.360 fits every
00:48:30.020 fact, no
00:48:32.020 problem at
00:48:32.460 all, it
00:48:32.780 completely
00:48:33.380 fits the
00:48:33.920 facts.
00:48:34.300 That doesn't
00:48:34.620 mean it
00:48:34.860 happened, or
00:48:36.080 even that it's
00:48:36.620 likely, it
00:48:37.180 just fits the
00:48:37.720 facts.
00:48:38.840 Now, let's
00:48:39.220 say it was
00:48:39.520 an enemy of
00:48:40.140 China.
00:48:41.820 Who would
00:48:42.420 do such a
00:48:42.940 thing?
00:48:44.120 Is there
00:48:44.660 any such
00:48:45.160 thing as an
00:48:46.520 enemy of
00:48:47.060 China who's
00:48:47.780 such an
00:48:48.140 enemy that
00:48:48.520 they would
00:48:48.800 do this?
00:48:50.180 And why
00:48:50.780 this, of
00:48:51.440 all things?
00:48:51.960 Well, what
00:48:53.580 kind of
00:48:53.780 enemies do
00:48:54.240 they have?
00:48:54.660 There's the
00:48:55.000 Uyghurs.
00:48:56.640 Now, if it
00:48:57.160 turned out that
00:48:58.140 the virus only
00:48:59.400 kills ethnic
00:49:00.400 Chinese and
00:49:01.500 doesn't affect
00:49:02.340 Uyghurs, except
00:49:03.140 maybe they get
00:49:03.760 a cold, you'd
00:49:05.500 say to
00:49:05.740 yourself, that's
00:49:07.020 kind of the
00:49:07.480 perfect weapon.
00:49:09.420 If I were a
00:49:10.360 Uyghur, well,
00:49:11.640 let me ask you
00:49:12.060 this.
00:49:12.860 If you were a
00:49:13.600 Uyghur, or a
00:49:16.260 sympathizer, and
00:49:17.600 you had access to
00:49:19.460 a bioweapon that
00:49:21.380 would kill the
00:49:23.560 Chinese people,
00:49:24.860 but not people
00:49:25.480 who are ethnically
00:49:27.340 Uyghurs, would
00:49:30.060 you use it?
00:49:32.100 Yeah, you
00:49:32.720 would.
00:49:33.700 Totally.
00:49:34.380 You would
00:49:34.680 totally use it.
00:49:35.940 And I would
00:49:36.900 argue that they
00:49:37.700 would be
00:49:38.200 justified.
00:49:39.940 Now, you say
00:49:40.540 to yourself,
00:49:41.060 wait, wait, it's
00:49:42.280 not justified to
00:49:44.020 kill civilians by
00:49:45.340 the thousands, you
00:49:47.260 know, just
00:49:47.520 because you've
00:49:48.040 got this issue
00:49:48.740 with the
00:49:49.180 government.
00:49:49.580 In what
00:49:51.280 world is it
00:49:52.040 okay to kill
00:49:52.820 citizens who
00:49:53.660 have nothing to
00:49:54.220 do with
00:49:54.480 anything, because
00:49:55.760 you're mad at
00:49:56.260 the government
00:49:56.680 for putting you
00:49:57.380 in concentration
00:49:58.200 camps?
00:49:59.140 To which I
00:49:59.920 say, totally
00:50:01.160 legitimate.
00:50:02.200 Let me give
00:50:02.640 you an
00:50:02.920 analogy.
00:50:04.460 Now, analogies,
00:50:05.260 of course, will
00:50:05.700 not persuade you,
00:50:06.780 but it will make
00:50:07.480 you think about
00:50:08.100 it differently.
00:50:09.200 Let's say you
00:50:09.980 were Jewish in
00:50:11.100 World War II.
00:50:12.420 You were living
00:50:13.120 in Germany, and
00:50:14.780 you saw the
00:50:15.380 Holocaust starting,
00:50:16.380 and you saw that
00:50:16.900 the German
00:50:17.340 citizens were
00:50:19.020 supporting.
00:50:20.480 Of course, they
00:50:21.240 didn't have too
00:50:21.780 much power to
00:50:22.420 stop their
00:50:22.780 government, but
00:50:23.320 the German
00:50:23.700 citizens, by
00:50:25.300 being quiet
00:50:25.980 about it and
00:50:26.580 not protesting,
00:50:27.580 sort of quietly
00:50:28.280 supported this
00:50:29.060 Holocaust.
00:50:30.320 Now, let's say
00:50:30.960 you invented a
00:50:32.960 bioweapon that
00:50:34.180 would kill only
00:50:35.100 Germans.
00:50:36.080 It's not really
00:50:36.660 possible, but
00:50:37.420 just for kicks,
00:50:39.120 let's say it
00:50:39.520 only killed
00:50:39.980 Germans, but it
00:50:41.660 would kill all
00:50:42.200 of them.
00:50:42.920 It would kill
00:50:43.500 every German.
00:50:45.060 It would kill
00:50:45.680 every citizen
00:50:46.580 who had nothing
00:50:47.260 to do with
00:50:47.780 the Holocaust.
00:50:48.520 They were just
00:50:48.840 minding their
00:50:49.300 own business.
00:50:50.580 Would you be
00:50:51.400 morally justified
00:50:53.340 in using it?
00:50:55.860 Yes.
00:50:56.600 Yes, you would.
00:50:57.900 Because all of
00:50:59.580 the citizens of
00:51:00.360 Germany were
00:51:01.340 enablers for
00:51:02.640 the Holocaust.
00:51:03.720 If your family
00:51:05.280 or you were
00:51:05.900 part of the
00:51:06.540 Holocaust, meaning
00:51:07.300 you were the
00:51:07.740 victims, would
00:51:09.040 you have any
00:51:10.020 qualms about
00:51:11.280 wiping out the
00:51:12.100 entire civilization
00:51:13.480 that supported
00:51:15.240 it directly or
00:51:16.100 indirectly?
00:51:17.240 Personally, no
00:51:18.820 qualms.
00:51:19.980 I wouldn't lose
00:51:21.060 a night of
00:51:21.640 sleep under
00:51:22.900 that situation.
00:51:23.860 Not a night
00:51:24.600 of sleep.
00:51:26.260 So, here's a
00:51:28.380 question for you.
00:51:29.740 I doubt the
00:51:30.380 Uyghurs have
00:51:30.980 access to this
00:51:32.060 technology, but
00:51:33.520 you can imagine
00:51:34.420 there's maybe a
00:51:35.740 Uyghur sympathizer
00:51:37.020 who works in the
00:51:38.020 bioweapons lab,
00:51:39.760 but that person
00:51:40.960 would be killing
00:51:41.660 probably his own
00:51:43.460 people because
00:51:44.660 I doubt they
00:51:45.480 let anybody
00:51:46.160 who's ethnically
00:51:47.760 Uyghur work
00:51:48.900 in a bioweapons
00:51:49.780 lab, right?
00:51:51.100 There are
00:51:51.460 probably no
00:51:52.200 Uyghurs working
00:51:53.100 in the bioweapons
00:51:53.960 lab.
00:51:55.280 So, I would say
00:51:56.580 that's very
00:51:57.040 unlikely.
00:51:58.460 They have a
00:51:59.060 reason.
00:52:00.100 They have the
00:52:00.680 best reason,
00:52:01.740 but very unlikely
00:52:02.800 they have the
00:52:03.300 access to do
00:52:04.020 that.
00:52:05.960 What about
00:52:06.820 never-againers?
00:52:08.660 You know the
00:52:09.200 phrase, never
00:52:10.460 again?
00:52:11.380 It refers to
00:52:12.500 the Holocaust.
00:52:13.980 And it's a
00:52:14.940 famous saying
00:52:15.540 where people
00:52:16.500 say, you
00:52:17.460 know, it
00:52:17.880 happened once
00:52:18.580 because people
00:52:19.640 turned their
00:52:20.380 heads and
00:52:22.200 they weren't
00:52:23.000 fighting hard
00:52:23.580 enough.
00:52:24.280 Not talking
00:52:25.060 about the
00:52:25.420 government.
00:52:26.420 We're talking
00:52:26.880 about the
00:52:27.340 people.
00:52:28.560 The people
00:52:29.340 let a
00:52:30.220 Holocaust
00:52:30.560 happen, the
00:52:31.600 people of the
00:52:32.100 world, and
00:52:33.800 never again.
00:52:34.320 Well, there
00:52:35.860 are two
00:52:36.160 versions of
00:52:36.920 never again.
00:52:38.120 One is, we'll
00:52:40.440 never again let
00:52:41.360 the Jewish
00:52:42.000 people be
00:52:42.580 rounded up
00:52:43.120 into a
00:52:43.480 Holocaust.
00:52:44.940 Perfectly
00:52:45.540 reasonable
00:52:46.140 interpretation.
00:52:47.780 Here's another
00:52:48.340 one.
00:52:50.040 Do you mean
00:52:50.660 it?
00:52:51.940 Are you serious
00:52:52.680 about never
00:52:53.160 again?
00:52:53.960 Because if
00:52:54.560 you're serious
00:52:55.100 about it, it's
00:52:56.580 not limited to
00:52:58.060 the Jewish
00:52:58.900 population.
00:53:00.080 If you really
00:53:01.080 mean never
00:53:01.660 again, like
00:53:03.240 you really mean
00:53:03.840 it?
00:53:04.320 Like you're
00:53:04.900 not just
00:53:05.280 doing it
00:53:05.720 for your
00:53:06.060 people?
00:53:06.820 If you
00:53:07.320 really mean
00:53:07.800 it, you
00:53:09.320 mean it.
00:53:10.660 What does
00:53:11.340 never again
00:53:11.860 mean?
00:53:12.760 It means
00:53:13.320 never.
00:53:14.220 It means
00:53:14.660 under no
00:53:15.400 circumstances,
00:53:16.840 never.
00:53:17.700 Not for the
00:53:18.480 Jewish
00:53:18.720 population, not
00:53:20.100 for the
00:53:20.580 Muslim
00:53:21.260 population, not
00:53:22.660 for any
00:53:23.160 population.
00:53:24.340 Never means
00:53:25.200 never.
00:53:26.960 Now, if you
00:53:27.560 were of that
00:53:28.340 philosophy, and
00:53:29.500 I would imagine
00:53:30.020 a lot of
00:53:30.360 people are, if
00:53:32.080 you were of
00:53:32.480 that philosophy, and
00:53:33.840 you had a
00:53:34.400 chance to
00:53:35.900 destroy a
00:53:36.640 huge part of
00:53:37.380 the Chinese
00:53:38.020 population, maybe
00:53:39.160 destabilize the
00:53:40.120 country, destroy
00:53:41.140 their government,
00:53:42.360 kill tens of
00:53:43.040 thousands of
00:53:43.560 people, but at
00:53:45.120 the end of it, there
00:53:45.800 might be a good
00:53:46.320 chance that the
00:53:47.320 Uyghur population
00:53:48.220 was released, would
00:53:50.280 you do it?
00:53:50.760 Yeah, you
00:53:54.720 would.
00:53:55.620 Would you have a
00:53:56.740 moral qualm about
00:53:59.040 destroying tens of
00:54:00.440 thousands, maybe
00:54:01.160 millions, of
00:54:02.580 people in the
00:54:03.440 country who had
00:54:04.500 nothing personally
00:54:05.460 to do with the
00:54:06.540 Uyghurs being
00:54:07.120 rounded up, but
00:54:08.520 they were
00:54:08.860 enablers.
00:54:10.200 They are, right
00:54:10.980 now, they are
00:54:11.540 enablers.
00:54:12.140 They are allowing
00:54:12.980 their government to
00:54:14.440 do it.
00:54:15.540 Would you have any
00:54:16.420 moral qualms about
00:54:17.300 that?
00:54:18.500 Yeah, look at the
00:54:19.120 comments.
00:54:20.400 Nope, you would
00:54:21.440 not.
00:54:22.300 So could you say
00:54:23.220 that there's nobody
00:54:24.900 in the world and
00:54:25.860 any biolab anywhere,
00:54:27.400 no scientist, is
00:54:28.760 there nobody who
00:54:29.420 could have made a
00:54:30.940 virus that would
00:54:31.920 target the Asian
00:54:33.380 population?
00:54:34.380 Now, I think, you
00:54:35.280 know, there's a
00:54:35.680 good chance we'll
00:54:36.200 find out that maybe
00:54:38.160 it doesn't target
00:54:39.000 anybody in
00:54:39.560 particular.
00:54:40.260 Those are
00:54:40.580 unknowns.
00:54:41.400 So if it turns
00:54:42.200 out it kills
00:54:42.880 everybody equally,
00:54:44.300 well, then I
00:54:44.800 think you could
00:54:45.320 eliminate these
00:54:46.160 possibilities.
00:54:47.360 Because nobody
00:54:48.060 would build a
00:54:48.620 bioweapon that
00:54:50.140 kills their own
00:54:50.780 people at the
00:54:51.400 same rate as
00:54:52.080 killing the
00:54:52.540 enemy.
00:54:52.900 It kind of
00:54:53.560 doesn't make
00:54:53.940 sense.
00:54:55.400 Would it be the
00:54:56.060 U.S.?
00:54:56.600 I can't see any
00:54:57.460 situation in which
00:54:58.360 the U.S.
00:54:58.900 would do this.
00:55:00.220 Can you?
00:55:01.200 We don't even
00:55:01.960 need to talk
00:55:02.440 about it, do we?
00:55:03.580 There's no
00:55:04.100 situation in which
00:55:05.140 the U.S.
00:55:05.760 government, the
00:55:07.020 government, would
00:55:08.200 do this.
00:55:09.020 But is there
00:55:10.860 one scientist in
00:55:14.340 any lab, in
00:55:15.700 any country, who
00:55:17.640 says that never
00:55:18.500 again actually
00:55:20.060 means never
00:55:20.700 again?
00:55:21.980 Does such a
00:55:22.800 person exist who
00:55:23.960 also has access to
00:55:25.840 a bioweapon?
00:55:27.660 Almost certainly.
00:55:30.280 Almost certainly.
00:55:31.800 The odds of at
00:55:32.900 least one person
00:55:34.020 who has this kind
00:55:35.680 of access and
00:55:36.400 technology being a
00:55:37.940 never-againer, which
00:55:38.960 is a perfectly
00:55:39.520 reasonable thing to
00:55:40.720 be, the odds of at
00:55:42.260 least one person
00:55:43.000 having this motive and
00:55:44.200 the opportunity,
00:55:45.480 pretty good.
00:55:46.780 Pretty good.
00:55:47.340 Close to 100%.
00:55:48.300 Doesn't mean they
00:55:49.300 did it, but their
00:55:51.220 motive and their
00:55:52.480 opportunity, probably
00:55:53.920 100% chance that
00:55:55.340 that happened.
00:55:56.580 All right.
00:55:57.160 So, if you're
00:55:58.180 looking at the
00:55:58.700 facts, unfortunately
00:55:59.660 the facts support
00:56:00.660 every hypothesis.
00:56:02.040 If you're looking
00:56:02.720 at the odds and
00:56:03.800 you're going to
00:56:04.200 bet money, if
00:56:05.740 you're going to
00:56:06.200 bet money, bet
00:56:08.000 on the animal.
00:56:10.080 All right.
00:56:10.820 Because given that
00:56:12.280 all of these
00:56:13.100 scenarios fit all
00:56:14.160 of the facts
00:56:14.900 that we know
00:56:15.720 so far, take
00:56:17.180 the common
00:56:17.620 one.
00:56:18.940 Take the most
00:56:19.680 common explanation,
00:56:21.320 the one that you
00:56:21.840 would expect.
00:56:22.520 Here's another one.
00:56:23.780 Came from an
00:56:24.420 animal.
00:56:25.020 It's a problem.
00:56:25.920 We're going to
00:56:26.200 take care of it.
00:56:27.740 If it turns out
00:56:28.760 it's a bioweapon,
00:56:29.800 and I don't think
00:56:30.720 we're going to
00:56:31.120 find that.
00:56:32.300 So that's my
00:56:32.940 prediction.
00:56:33.880 My prediction is
00:56:34.720 that the ordinary
00:56:35.540 will win.
00:56:37.000 But if we found
00:56:37.840 out it was a
00:56:38.380 bioweapon, what
00:56:41.600 are the odds that
00:56:42.180 China made a
00:56:42.840 mistake?
00:56:43.380 Pretty good.
00:56:44.540 Pretty good.
00:56:45.080 I would say that
00:56:45.640 the China made a
00:56:46.460 mistake is higher
00:56:49.640 than enemy of
00:56:51.340 China.
00:56:51.960 So I think this
00:56:52.600 is the lowest
00:56:53.500 odds is that it's
00:56:55.280 some clever enemy
00:56:56.380 of China doing a
00:56:58.120 never-againer
00:56:58.860 situation.
00:57:00.800 All right.
00:57:04.720 I'm looking at
00:57:05.580 your comments.
00:57:07.180 All right.
00:57:08.160 So what I wanted
00:57:08.800 to do was just
00:57:09.440 lay this out so
00:57:10.440 you can see how
00:57:11.100 the thinking works
00:57:12.220 and maybe not
00:57:13.060 draw conclusions
00:57:13.860 yet because I'm
00:57:15.120 not sure if
00:57:15.900 everybody knew
00:57:16.620 that all of the
00:57:17.520 facts we know
00:57:18.420 fit the ordinary
00:57:20.700 story, that it
00:57:22.780 was an animal
00:57:23.540 just like they
00:57:24.120 say.
00:57:25.100 Now, what about
00:57:26.120 the fact that it
00:57:26.760 happened near the
00:57:27.380 lab?
00:57:28.680 Coincidences happen.
00:57:30.520 In fact,
00:57:31.140 coincidences are so
00:57:32.260 common, there was
00:57:33.580 going to be a
00:57:34.080 coincidence, whether
00:57:35.540 it was that one or
00:57:36.360 some other one that
00:57:37.840 also made you
00:57:38.440 suspicious, well,
00:57:39.920 something was
00:57:40.480 going to happen.
00:57:41.380 All right.
00:57:41.760 That's all for now
00:57:42.400 and I will talk to
00:57:43.560 you later.