Real Coffee with Scott Adams - February 14, 2020


Episode 819 Scott Adams： Talking About Barr, Stone, Swalwell and Taking Questions on Valentine's Day


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

150.0855

Word Count

8,075

Sentence Count

633

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary

It's a weird, slow news day, and Scott Adams is here to talk about it. He also talks about the latest in the Trump-Russia scandal, and the fact that the president is still tweeting about a case that is still active.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody! Happy Valentine's Day! Come on in here!
00:00:12.000 It's time for Coffee with Scott Adams.
00:00:15.820 And it will feature, yes it will, a special Valentine's version of this simultaneous sip.
00:00:24.620 What makes it special, you ask? Well, you're going to have to wait and see.
00:00:28.440 But I think you'll agree, it's pretty special.
00:00:32.820 And all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass, a tank or a chalice or a stein, a canteen jug or a flask, a vessel of any kind, fill it with your favorite liquid.
00:00:41.580 Could be hot chocolate today, but I like coffee.
00:00:45.420 And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better, the simultaneous sip, Valentine version.
00:00:54.460 Go!
00:00:58.440 Mmm, yes, just as I suspected.
00:01:02.820 When you match the subtle undertones of Valentine's Day with the exceptional flavors and pungency of the simultaneity, I think it makes a lovely bouquet.
00:01:16.860 And you don't have to hate me for that, I hate myself just for saying that sentence.
00:01:25.880 So, what's going on?
00:01:28.080 It's a weird, slow news day.
00:01:31.680 So I thought I'd take some questions later.
00:01:35.040 Except, I put on my headphone and I forgot to click the option for taking questions.
00:01:40.520 So it turns out, I won't be taking questions today.
00:01:45.420 I just realized.
00:01:47.340 Because if you don't click that option before you turn on the periscope, you don't have that option.
00:01:52.360 So this might be the slowest periscope, or the shortest one, you've ever seen.
00:01:56.860 But I will take your questions in the comments after I start paying attention to them.
00:02:04.740 All right.
00:02:05.980 I learned some news today.
00:02:07.920 I should have seen it coming.
00:02:09.800 I tweeted about it earlier.
00:02:10.960 But did you know that you probably knew that Ukraine had, I guess on three occasions, had offered Lieutenant Colonel Vindman the job of Secretary of Defense for Ukraine.
00:02:26.540 Now, if this is the first time you've heard that, I don't know what you've been watching, if this is the first time you've heard it.
00:02:32.940 But if it's the first time you heard it, I want to assure you that you heard it correctly.
00:02:38.680 You're not crazy.
00:02:39.520 Obviously, American Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, the very one of the Ukraine Perfect Letter story, while he was working, I guess, with Ukraine, they offered him the job of their Secretary of Defense for Ukraine three times.
00:02:56.020 I guess he's got some Ukraine heritage in his background, so there was some reason for that.
00:03:01.680 But here's the part I found out.
00:03:02.920 The only reason that Ukraine offered Vindman the job of Secretary of Defense is that Hunter Biden turned it down.
00:03:11.140 No, that's not true.
00:03:14.800 But wouldn't it be funny if it had been true?
00:03:18.080 Yeah, that's the way the news should go.
00:03:20.260 The news should always follow whatever is the funniest.
00:03:23.520 Now, you can fill in the rest of the joke on that Hunter Biden joke.
00:03:27.540 I know you're doing it in your head.
00:03:29.360 He turned it down because it wasn't paying enough.
00:03:32.560 Exactly.
00:03:34.020 Hunter Biden turned down the job of Secretary of Defense for Ukraine because he was overqualified.
00:03:40.100 Good job.
00:03:41.540 Nice writing.
00:03:43.120 Yeah, there are a few more jokes you can fill in there, and they're all good.
00:03:45.540 All right, today we have the biggest story of the day is not even a story at all.
00:03:55.140 The news business is so good at weaving something out of absolutely nothing that it's starting to be quite impressive.
00:04:03.940 You know, you saw the collusion hoax, something out of nothing.
00:04:07.600 The Ukraine story, something out of nothing.
00:04:10.920 The president is a big old dictator, something out of nothing.
00:04:15.380 You know, so they're really good at making something out of nothing.
00:04:20.520 Today's a good example.
00:04:22.860 So you probably know the story, but if anybody doesn't, President Trump tweeted about – I'll just give you the rough outline of the story.
00:04:31.480 He tweeted about the Roger Stone sentence being nine years, said something about it being excessive, I guess.
00:04:38.700 And then everybody said, whoa, the president can't be tweeting about a case that's still active and still going on.
00:04:47.340 He would be influencing the Department of Justice, which technically is in his domain as president.
00:04:54.660 But by tradition, you're not supposed to do that because you don't want to show – you don't want to look like a dictator who's telling your Department of Justice to do what you want versus doing what they know to be right.
00:05:07.420 So then part two of the story is that after the president did that, or sometime around that time, Bill Barr simultaneously also had the same thought.
00:05:19.360 He saw the verdict about Stone and said, what?
00:05:23.300 That looks excessive.
00:05:24.700 Let's look into this and see if we can find out what's going on or adjust it, which he did.
00:05:31.320 So here's the story.
00:05:34.920 The president of the United States and the attorney general that he appointed are in complete agreement.
00:05:43.060 That's the story, right?
00:05:46.200 The president thought there was something wrong with this Stone sentencing independently, and I think we believe that it really was independently because Barr has a pretty good reputation, right, as a straight shooter.
00:05:59.300 So Barr has said no independently and having nothing to do with the president's tweet, and I think even before it, he said, what's wrong with this Stone thing?
00:06:10.220 We've got to look into this.
00:06:11.680 So the real story should be this.
00:06:14.300 The president of the United States and his attorney general completely agree.
00:06:19.220 So does Alan Dershowitz.
00:06:20.620 So does Jonathan Turley, famous constitutional scholars and lawyers.
00:06:25.940 So do pretty much all of the independent lawyers who are looking at this, you know, the ones who are not blatant partisans, pretty much are all on the same team.
00:06:36.100 So what kind of a story do you make out of everybody agrees?
00:06:41.460 How the hell do you turn that into a news story?
00:06:44.340 Well, CNN can do it.
00:06:47.500 And here's how they did it.
00:06:48.780 Because Barr clapped back, as they like to say, he clapped back at the president's tweet saying, and again, this is just paraphrasing it, that it was impossible to do his job under these conditions when, you know, when the executive is tweeting about it, it makes it impossible for Barr to do his job.
00:07:07.540 And that he wouldn't be bullied by anybody, the Congress, the press, or the president.
00:07:17.400 Now, what did CNN say about that?
00:07:20.060 Whoa, they said, whoa, whoa.
00:07:24.460 It looks like Barr and the president are having a little tiff.
00:07:29.960 Let's make something out of this.
00:07:31.660 Now, what did the president say when he asked about Bill Barr clapping back and saying that the president shouldn't be doing all this commenting?
00:07:41.460 The president said, that's fine.
00:07:44.400 I'm going to do it anyway.
00:07:46.760 All right.
00:07:47.700 So what's the story?
00:07:49.860 What's the story?
00:07:51.720 Let me put it to you with yet another frame.
00:07:54.980 Do you want a president, and it doesn't matter what party they belong to, et cetera, would you want a president to watch a travesty of justice, the stoned sentencing?
00:08:08.540 Would you want him to watch any travesty of justice, whether it was stoned or anybody else, and watch it with the public?
00:08:15.260 The public is watching the same thing he is.
00:08:17.600 We're all watching the same stuff.
00:08:19.360 It's clearly a travesty of justice.
00:08:21.600 It's obvious.
00:08:22.560 It's public.
00:08:24.220 We know all the facts we need to know.
00:08:26.320 We watched it.
00:08:27.620 We all have the same opinion, travesty of justice.
00:08:30.220 We all, at least the president's supporters seem to be.
00:08:33.840 And I don't want a president who won't comment on that.
00:08:38.700 I certainly do want a president who would not, and here's a key word here, I would not want a president who privately weighed in on what the justice system was doing.
00:08:52.040 In other words, if the president put his finger on the scale privately with the individuals in the Department of Justice, such as calling Bill Barr in and saying, you know, hand on the shoulder, Bill, you know, it really means something to me.
00:09:06.140 If this, you know, went this way, I think you should do this.
00:09:09.320 It could mean a lot for your career.
00:09:10.740 You know, something like that.
00:09:11.780 Had it been a private conversation, I think you'd have to filter it differently.
00:09:19.140 But when your president does something in the most public way it can be done, should you see it the same?
00:09:26.800 Because I don't think so.
00:09:28.500 I think that if your president tells you exactly what he's thinking publicly, that's always good.
00:09:36.600 Now, I'm sure somebody's going to come up with an exception to that.
00:09:41.840 You know, maybe if it had to do with national security, you don't want to know the president's inner thoughts.
00:09:47.660 But that's what the president says, too.
00:09:50.220 The president says when it comes to national security, and sometimes even to, you know, negotiations, that being unpredictable is an advantage.
00:09:58.140 So when you watch the president negotiate with, let's say, an adversary, he acts unpredictable, and he doesn't really let them know exactly what he's thinking.
00:10:08.960 And he tells you, I'm doing this intentionally, and then you watch it work.
00:10:12.920 It's a good strategy.
00:10:14.380 But when he's talking about domestic stuff, do you want your president to not tell you his actual opinion in public so we can all see it?
00:10:25.380 I don't want that.
00:10:26.560 Why would anybody want that?
00:10:29.120 In what world would you not want your president to publicly give you his opinion?
00:10:34.380 So this is all good news.
00:10:36.320 Now, there is one situation in which that would not be a good idea, and that would be if he had a weak attorney general.
00:10:44.020 Do we have a weak attorney general?
00:10:47.620 Well, some might argue we used to, but not now.
00:10:52.680 Is anybody arguing that Bill Barr is a weak attorney general?
00:10:56.280 Well, no, no.
00:10:57.700 Your perfect situation is the one you just watched.
00:11:01.500 Your perfect situation, the one that, you know, if the founders could map it out on paper and say, you know, we want to update this Constitution.
00:11:10.480 Let's build a system that's really good.
00:11:12.140 What's, you know, let's map out what's the ideal situation?
00:11:16.420 The ideal situation is that your commander in chief, your president of the United States says in public on domestic issues, not defense issues, but says in public what his real opinion is.
00:11:29.680 What's better than that?
00:11:34.180 I can't think of anything.
00:11:35.780 And it doesn't matter if it's about the Department of Justice or anything else.
00:11:38.960 Now, again, this is predicated on the fact that your attorney general is not going to be swayed by this strong executive president.
00:11:49.420 Bill Barr is, I want to say he's alpha as F, you know what I'm talking about, right?
00:11:55.940 Does anybody think that Bill Barr is going to be bullied?
00:12:00.600 I don't think so.
00:12:02.120 Doesn't look like it to me.
00:12:03.680 And he said so in public.
00:12:05.980 Now, do you think that President Trump respects Bill Barr less for clapping back in public?
00:12:13.800 We can't read their minds, but if I had to guess, I'd say that they're both pretty happy with the situation in the sense that they both showed where their line is.
00:12:28.280 Bill Barr said, here's my line, all right?
00:12:31.100 You just crossed my line, so now I need to make sure that I've defined this line a little bit more clearly.
00:12:37.240 I'm going to do it clearly, strongly, and in public.
00:12:41.980 How do you beat that?
00:12:44.920 How do you beat that, really?
00:12:46.640 What system in the world is better than a strong attorney general publicly, strongly, and clearly saying,
00:12:54.380 okay, you pushed a little too hard.
00:12:56.860 Now, here's my line, just so everybody knows.
00:12:59.640 I'm not joking about this.
00:13:00.980 This is the line.
00:13:03.020 Perfect situation.
00:13:05.040 Along with, in my opinion, a president who's willing to tell you in public
00:13:09.200 his actual thoughts on the issue,
00:13:13.000 and certainly I appreciate it when a president weighs in on something that looks like a miscarriage of justice.
00:13:19.160 So, CNN is reporting this like some kind of a problem
00:13:22.880 while you and I are watching the most perfect system you'll ever see.
00:13:29.900 It doesn't get better than what those two did this week.
00:13:34.480 That's as good as it gets.
00:13:35.460 It really is.
00:13:37.420 We don't want all of our leaders to be on the same side all the time.
00:13:42.600 And I like the fact that the president is simply acknowledging,
00:13:46.400 you know, I think in a sense the president acknowledged that Bill Barr's opinion is valid
00:13:51.160 because he didn't push back on Bill Barr's opinion.
00:13:53.820 He just said, I'm the president.
00:13:55.100 I'm going to keep doing what I'm going to do.
00:13:57.240 You know, I'm going to communicate with the people.
00:13:59.240 The way I communicate with the people, nobody's going to tell me to not do that.
00:14:03.320 Perfect.
00:14:04.460 Perfect.
00:14:06.240 All right.
00:14:11.780 Do you think that Mike Bloomberg has hired comedy writers
00:14:15.380 so that he has clever responses to President Trump's tweets?
00:14:21.680 I think so.
00:14:23.160 This is going to be something to watch for.
00:14:25.100 Because it's going to be kind of obvious after a while.
00:14:29.360 If Bloomberg starts spouting these little, you know, rejointers that are a little too clever,
00:14:37.560 a little too funny, a little too well packaged,
00:14:40.680 it's going to reveal that they're coming from comedy writers.
00:14:44.660 Now, who's the comedy writer for President Trump's tweets?
00:14:48.680 Nobody.
00:14:49.880 Nobody.
00:14:51.020 The president writes his own comedy.
00:14:53.900 He writes his own tweets.
00:14:55.080 He writes his own insults.
00:14:56.560 Now, he also retweets, you know, funny memes and stuff.
00:15:00.000 But you can tell the difference between a President Trump tweet, you know, the insulting ones,
00:15:05.860 the funny ones.
00:15:07.200 Those are all him.
00:15:08.640 There's no comedy writer feeding him stuff.
00:15:11.540 And I think it's obvious by the way he does it.
00:15:14.540 Nobody could write.
00:15:15.800 You know, there are good writers who could write good stuff in their own voice.
00:15:20.860 But I don't think anybody could write a tweet in the president's voice quite the way he writes them.
00:15:26.320 I don't think that could be done.
00:15:27.820 We wouldn't know right away if the president started using comedy writers.
00:15:31.360 That's not going to happen.
00:15:32.320 But so Bloomberg was responding to the height comments from the president.
00:15:38.960 And he came up with a quip.
00:15:40.140 He said, I heard a little clip where he said, where I come from, height is measured from the neck up.
00:15:46.940 And then the audience has to think for a while.
00:15:50.280 Wait, height is measured from the neck up.
00:15:52.480 So he's saying that if you have a really tall forehead, that's good?
00:15:58.680 What?
00:15:59.560 Now, that doesn't make sense.
00:16:01.120 So your height is measured from the neck up.
00:16:05.080 Is that because you don't have a long enough measuring device?
00:16:08.580 Or is it good to have a big head?
00:16:10.720 What exactly?
00:16:11.460 Oh, oh, I get it.
00:16:12.620 I get it.
00:16:13.040 I get it.
00:16:13.440 He's saying, I measure my height from the neck up because he's saying the brains.
00:16:18.940 Brains, that's right.
00:16:20.500 Brains.
00:16:21.800 Brains are the important part.
00:16:24.200 Now, who wrote that?
00:16:27.980 I think Bloomberg might have pulled that out from something from his childhood or something.
00:16:34.820 Because it sounds like an old saying.
00:16:37.260 It doesn't sound like something that was written for this purpose.
00:16:40.820 It sounds like he pulled it out from maybe his past, you know, somewhere he heard it.
00:16:48.060 But I think you're going to see Bloomberg hire writers.
00:16:51.920 And it's going to be funny when they start doing their thing.
00:16:55.040 All right.
00:16:57.100 Eric Swalwell has crawled out from under a rock.
00:17:01.080 He was hiding after the collusion, Russia collusion fell apart and the Ukraine thing fell apart.
00:17:08.340 But he's back.
00:17:09.780 And he's my representative out here in California.
00:17:13.200 And he said on CNN he was being interviewed by Anderson Cooper.
00:17:21.260 And I just tweeted around the tweet where I did a screen grab of Swalwell talking to Anderson Cooper.
00:17:28.580 And you have to look at Anderson Cooper's body language, which I will demonstrate here in a moment for those of you watching on video.
00:17:36.580 And I'll describe it for those of you who are listening.
00:17:39.040 But Swalwell was talking about the Stone situation.
00:17:44.700 And he said that instead of, essentially, instead of tweeting about it, the president could have just pardoned him.
00:17:51.840 But here's where Swalwell goes into full crazy, crazy land.
00:17:56.140 Swalwell says that the reason the president doesn't simply just pardon Stone is he wants to show the world that he can manipulate the Department of Justice.
00:18:06.860 And Anderson Cooper is sitting there listening to this crazy bullshit.
00:18:16.380 And you had to see Anderson Cooper's body language.
00:18:18.840 And I'll demonstrate for those of you watching on video, but you can see it in my Twitter.
00:18:24.280 Anderson Cooper is sitting at the desk with him.
00:18:26.480 He's leaning back.
00:18:27.980 And he's got both of his arms crossed.
00:18:30.180 And it's just the two of them.
00:18:32.000 And so Swalwell was talking.
00:18:33.580 And Swalwell was leaning in.
00:18:34.660 And Anderson Cooper's got his arms tightly crossed.
00:18:37.700 And he just says, you really think the president is thinking that?
00:18:44.760 And it was that moment when you realize that only even your own team, let's say the left-leaning anti-Trump team, if you will, roughly speaking.
00:18:55.480 It was that moment when you realize that even your own team wasn't buying your bullshit anymore.
00:19:02.240 And, you know, I've said this before.
00:19:04.260 I think Anderson Cooper is one of the people who is capable of seeing past the craziness.
00:19:13.060 I'm not sure that everybody who even works in the industry is even capable of doing that.
00:19:17.580 But I think Anderson is.
00:19:18.640 And, you know, I think Anderson Cooper has his own biases and political preferences, like everyone else.
00:19:27.120 You know, everyone kind of shows their bias in that job.
00:19:30.180 So he's no different in that way.
00:19:32.060 But I do think he's also capable of noticing when his own team just went off the rails.
00:19:38.160 And you could watch it happen.
00:19:41.000 Swalwell's assumption that the president was cleverly not pardoning him because he wanted to really show that he's a dictator who can control the Department of Justice is so batshit crazy that even Anderson Cooper couldn't treat it as a serious statement, at least in terms of his body language.
00:19:58.180 In terms of his professionalism, of course, he did.
00:20:02.760 All right.
00:20:04.160 I thought that was hilarious.
00:20:05.400 Rush Limbaugh, I don't know when Rush Limbaugh said this, but it was reported, I guess, on CNN, that they say conservative radio personality and Medal of Freedom recipient.
00:20:19.900 So they throw that in there to further mock him.
00:20:23.720 They say Rush Limbaugh said that 2020 presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg had little chance of winning the election because, quote, America is still not ready to elect a gay guy.
00:20:33.300 Now, of course, on CNN, they want to make this look like Rush Limbaugh is anti-gay.
00:20:40.640 Is that what he said?
00:20:43.080 Did Rush Limbaugh say anything bad about gay people?
00:20:50.320 Well, I don't know what he's ever said in the past.
00:20:53.160 But in this case, there's nothing negative about gay people.
00:20:55.860 He's talking about other people.
00:20:56.900 He's talking about other people being prejudiced.
00:21:02.040 Isn't that just an objective statement?
00:21:04.440 He's not even giving you his opinion.
00:21:05.920 He's just saying, I think other people are not ready.
00:21:08.840 He didn't say anything about himself.
00:21:10.800 But the implication, the way it's framed and sort of presented, makes you think,
00:21:18.980 huh, is that because Limbaugh has a problem with this?
00:21:23.200 Now, I don't even know Limbaugh's opinion on this topic.
00:21:27.140 I have no idea what his topic is.
00:21:30.080 But is he right?
00:21:32.020 Let's just talk about whether the country's ready or not.
00:21:36.060 I'm going to disagree with Limbaugh on this.
00:21:38.900 I disagree.
00:21:40.200 I say that the country actually is ready.
00:21:42.400 And that the reason that Buttigieg might not make it to the dance, so to speak,
00:21:51.520 might not get to the final nomination and might not get elected to president,
00:21:56.020 I think the reasons have everything to do with him
00:21:58.320 and almost nothing to do with his sexual preference.
00:22:03.160 That's my view.
00:22:04.560 My view is that if Buttigieg had the skills of an Obama, that he could be president.
00:22:14.300 Because you've got the skill and then you've got whatever other people might suggest is a disadvantage.
00:22:22.740 But if your skill is high enough, it doesn't matter that you have a disadvantage of any type.
00:22:27.960 Your skill level can overcome it.
00:22:30.180 You see this with President Trump better than anybody else.
00:22:33.060 Because President Trump has a lot of negatives, according to some people.
00:22:38.360 You know, his personal life in particular, his personality, etc.
00:22:42.800 But because the president's skill level is so extraordinary,
00:22:47.680 he can get past, you know, grab them by the you-know-what,
00:22:51.340 and maybe nobody else could have.
00:22:53.460 It's possible that nobody else, maybe no other politician in the history of the world,
00:22:58.820 could have gotten past that.
00:23:00.020 But if your skill level is enough, you can.
00:23:03.080 So here's where I disagree with Rush Limbaugh.
00:23:06.080 I think the country is absolutely ready, totally ready.
00:23:10.600 We would just need a better candidate.
00:23:13.840 Do you agree?
00:23:14.960 Because I don't think it's even right to say that the country's not ready.
00:23:18.740 You can't ignore the variable of how good the candidate is.
00:23:24.040 When President Obama ran for office, the country was not ready for a black president.
00:23:31.540 Obama made us ready.
00:23:34.220 He didn't...
00:23:35.360 I would say that Obama did not come into an opportunity,
00:23:39.880 and, wow, lucky.
00:23:40.920 It's lucky that you're the first black guy who ran for president
00:23:43.700 at exactly the time the country was just ready for it.
00:23:48.920 I don't think that exactly happened.
00:23:51.040 Now, of course, the country was getting more and more ready over time.
00:23:55.040 It was the readiest it had ever been.
00:23:57.880 But I would argue that Obama made us ready.
00:24:00.980 I think he made us ready.
00:24:02.640 He didn't wait for us to get ready.
00:24:04.660 And that's what's missing in Limbaugh's analysis.
00:24:07.700 Pete Buttigieg, if he were Obama-quality politician, and he's not,
00:24:14.780 he could make us ready.
00:24:16.920 So when you say, is the country ready,
00:24:19.020 I think that's looking at the wrong variable.
00:24:21.760 He could make us ready.
00:24:23.420 And I would argue he's doing a solid B-plus job at it.
00:24:29.820 Buttigieg is doing a solid B-plus job of making the country ready.
00:24:35.120 And I actually like a lot of the things he's doing in that domain of getting us ready.
00:24:41.220 I like that he's not hiding anything.
00:24:44.260 He's fully transparent.
00:24:47.680 He's got his husband involved in the campaign.
00:24:50.780 Nothing is being de-emphasized.
00:24:54.520 He's just transparent.
00:24:56.980 Exactly the right thing.
00:24:58.140 He's not saying that being gay is an advantage
00:25:00.200 because that's a mistake that Hillary made about being a woman.
00:25:04.340 She tried to make it an advantage.
00:25:06.580 It's what Obama did not make as a mistake.
00:25:10.040 Obama never said, hey, it's time for a black guy.
00:25:13.120 He didn't.
00:25:13.740 That would have been a mistake.
00:25:15.580 He downplayed that.
00:25:17.320 And so I would say Buttigieg is a solid B-plus,
00:25:19.860 but he'd need to be an A-plus to get elected.
00:25:23.300 And I don't think he's quite A-plus yet.
00:25:25.340 Maybe he will be someday.
00:25:26.220 And I've said before, and I'll say it again,
00:25:33.840 I think the country needs to have an LGBT president.
00:25:38.200 If it's not this time, let's get around to it.
00:25:41.760 Check that box.
00:25:42.900 It's just good for the country.
00:25:43.920 Good for the country to, you know,
00:25:47.060 and I wouldn't want a situation where you picked somebody
00:25:51.520 for their immutable characteristics just to get it done.
00:25:55.760 I'm not in favor of that.
00:25:57.560 But should we have a contest where that's the best candidate?
00:26:02.060 Let's do it.
00:26:03.460 All right.
00:26:03.840 I tweeted around yesterday an article that's getting a lot of attention.
00:26:08.780 I saw that Don Jr. also independently had tweeted around.
00:26:13.360 And it's just worth mentioning again.
00:26:15.540 And it was written by Dr. Karlyn Borisenko.
00:26:21.920 And what was remarkable about it is that she was a lifelong Democrat, I guess,
00:26:27.580 and went to a Trump rally and described, you know,
00:26:33.120 the story of how she felt and what it was like at the rally
00:26:36.200 and how it changed her.
00:26:39.060 Now, the bottom line to it is that she thought it would be a big scary thing
00:26:42.800 with bad people.
00:26:43.840 She went to the rally, and they were all really nice.
00:26:46.540 And that was it.
00:26:47.820 She found out that her worldview about what a Trump supporter was
00:26:54.600 and how they acted and who they were was just totally wrong
00:26:57.740 and had been fed to her by the media.
00:27:00.320 Now, what was remarkable about the article is that, first of all,
00:27:04.400 it was a first-person account of somebody changing their mind.
00:27:08.480 How often does somebody change their mind?
00:27:11.620 You know, you just don't see it.
00:27:13.460 I mean, it's a dog-bites-man situation.
00:27:17.500 So, first of all, the topic was really interesting,
00:27:19.540 to watch that journey of the mind.
00:27:22.440 But, secondly, it's really well written.
00:27:24.600 And it sort of jumped off the page.
00:27:26.840 Because I can't read long articles.
00:27:29.760 I mean, I skim them, or I look at the headlines,
00:27:33.160 pick out the key points.
00:27:34.300 I can't read a long article.
00:27:36.660 But I could read hers.
00:27:38.520 I could read it and was happy to read the entire thing.
00:27:42.000 Because the way she formed sentences,
00:27:44.280 just the journey that she took me on,
00:27:46.860 it was really well done.
00:27:49.620 But I'm getting to a point here.
00:27:50.900 I'm not just going to compliment the piece.
00:27:52.560 There's something I'm getting to that's useful.
00:27:55.860 So, given that it's very rare for somebody to change their mind,
00:28:00.620 and for somebody to break out of what I would call a TDS bubble,
00:28:04.700 and I think she called it that herself.
00:28:06.680 You know, in her own words,
00:28:08.220 she basically referred to it the same way.
00:28:09.920 But to watch that journey was extraordinary.
00:28:15.380 And I said to myself, and you've seen me do this a lot of times,
00:28:18.560 I said to myself,
00:28:19.920 what kind of person can do that?
00:28:23.980 Who is qualified to break out of a bubble?
00:28:28.960 It doesn't matter if it's on the right or the left.
00:28:31.220 Who has that skill?
00:28:33.640 So, I clicked on her profile,
00:28:35.560 and then I did a little hunting down on her LinkedIn page
00:28:39.300 to see what kind of background she had.
00:28:41.320 Now, you know in my book, Loser Think,
00:28:43.560 I tell you that people who have had experience with different domains
00:28:46.980 have an advantage in understanding reality,
00:28:50.620 and that you could escape your bubble,
00:28:52.840 if you're in one, and most of us are,
00:28:55.000 you can escape your bubble by adding to your talent stack.
00:28:58.600 So, let's see what kind of a talent stack
00:29:00.600 you've got from somebody who can break out of a TDS bubble,
00:29:05.760 arguably the hardest bubble that anybody ever broke out of.
00:29:09.340 All right?
00:29:09.800 And by the way,
00:29:11.020 she did not break out of the bubble to become a Trump supporter.
00:29:14.940 That didn't happen.
00:29:16.320 And she had some negative things to say about the president's style.
00:29:19.660 So, she didn't become a Trump lover.
00:29:21.500 That would be suspicious looking.
00:29:23.480 But she simply became a non-Democrat
00:29:26.040 because she could see what was happening on her side.
00:29:29.140 All right?
00:29:29.300 So, that's the highest level of awareness, I would say.
00:29:33.260 What kind of background gets you there?
00:29:35.780 So, I look at her background.
00:29:38.000 Organizational psychologist.
00:29:40.100 Author, coach, speaker.
00:29:42.840 She's written a book on, I guess,
00:29:45.620 workplace organizational behavior kind of stuff.
00:29:49.460 And she lists herself as a chief science officer.
00:29:52.000 And then I went and clicked on her LinkedIn,
00:29:55.240 and I see that she has a master's of business administration,
00:29:58.800 a bachelor of science in communication and public relations,
00:30:02.800 and a doctor of philosophy.
00:30:04.800 She's a PhD in industrial and organizational psychology.
00:30:08.940 In other words, she has exactly the talent stack
00:30:14.780 that her article predicted.
00:30:18.380 She has a full view of the field.
00:30:21.640 And you could see it.
00:30:23.020 Because nowhere in the article was there any loser think.
00:30:26.940 Nowhere in the article were there dumb analogies trying to prove something.
00:30:30.740 Nowhere in the article did she act like she could read the minds of strangers.
00:30:34.620 Nowhere.
00:30:34.940 And that's what you'd expect for somebody who was, you know,
00:30:39.220 a doctor of philosophy, who understood psychology, communication,
00:30:43.320 had a master's of business, corporate experience, wrote a book,
00:30:47.360 knows public relations.
00:30:51.120 Talent stack works.
00:30:52.940 So, here's my point.
00:30:54.240 Oh, and here's the funniest part of the story.
00:30:56.580 It's just funny because she, you know, her writing was so good
00:30:59.580 that she became a sort of a national headline there.
00:31:02.240 Not a headline, but at least on social media,
00:31:04.780 she became kind of a little sensation for a while.
00:31:08.240 She has the last name of Borisenko,
00:31:10.680 and somebody accused her of being Russian or something.
00:31:14.460 And she said that she's married to a Ukrainian.
00:31:18.760 Now, I don't know if he's Ukrainian-American, American or what.
00:31:22.400 I don't know.
00:31:22.980 But he has a Ukrainian last name, and she married him.
00:31:26.040 Now, what are the odds?
00:31:26.920 What are the odds that Ukraine just keeps popping up?
00:31:32.380 Yeah, it's the simulation.
00:31:34.180 Code reuse.
00:31:35.620 It's like the system is down for maintenance,
00:31:37.740 and you only have so many options.
00:31:40.020 You know, like half of the simulation is down for maintenance,
00:31:43.060 and they're saying, all right, until March,
00:31:46.900 all foreign countries are just going to be Ukraine.
00:31:50.380 What?
00:31:51.700 What are you talking about?
00:31:52.960 That can't work.
00:31:53.860 How can every story in the news be about a Ukraine?
00:31:57.080 I know, I know, it doesn't make sense,
00:31:58.900 but we've got to bring the simulation down for maintenance.
00:32:01.260 We're just bringing down the modules
00:32:02.960 that give you a variety of international events.
00:32:06.200 It's just all going to be Ukraine from now on.
00:32:08.900 All Ukraine.
00:32:10.760 So, you've got that going on.
00:32:13.400 So, congratulations to Dr. Karlyn Borisenko
00:32:17.040 for breaking down for a TDS bubble,
00:32:21.260 seeing the full field,
00:32:22.720 and doing it the honest way
00:32:24.300 by building a skill stack that is world-class.
00:32:27.800 It's a world-class skill stack.
00:32:30.440 All right.
00:32:31.340 That is all I got in my prepared notes.
00:32:35.040 Does anybody have any questions
00:32:36.520 that they've been dying to ask?
00:32:38.040 By the way,
00:32:39.340 I apologize for always having to deal with my nasal problems
00:32:43.260 while I'm live-streaming here.
00:32:45.840 I am looking to schedule some surgery
00:32:48.460 to do some roto-root-ring in my nasal polyps
00:32:52.480 to solve this problem.
00:32:53.780 It's not really allergies.
00:32:55.000 I'm not sick.
00:32:56.080 It's sort of something that has to be roto-root-ed out.
00:32:59.020 So, we'll do that.
00:33:00.060 And when I do,
00:33:00.540 I'll probably miss a few days on Periscope.
00:33:02.580 But, it's not a dangerous situation.
00:33:08.580 All right.
00:33:08.940 Somebody says,
00:33:09.540 why do we need a gay president?
00:33:11.620 Well, need is not the exact word that I would say.
00:33:15.400 I would say it would be good.
00:33:17.100 There are things that could be good for you
00:33:19.260 that you don't really need.
00:33:21.220 They're just good for you.
00:33:23.060 And I don't think that we have to force it.
00:33:25.540 I think it needs to happen when it happens.
00:33:27.140 And it will just be,
00:33:28.700 there will be, you know,
00:33:30.500 somebody who's just got high-end capability.
00:33:36.340 Slaughtermeter is at 100%.
00:33:38.420 Oh, yeah.
00:33:38.840 I heard that, who is it?
00:33:40.560 Caruso Cabrera is running against AOC.
00:33:44.120 Did you hear that?
00:33:46.200 Now, you may recognize your name
00:33:48.000 as a CNBC host or whatever for years and years.
00:33:54.580 I would be real worried if I were AOC.
00:33:57.140 Because, that's a really strong competitor.
00:34:03.960 All right.
00:34:08.040 Yeah, somebody was saying,
00:34:09.920 if you notice when Pete Buttigieg,
00:34:13.480 or when people talk about him,
00:34:15.880 I think when he talks about himself,
00:34:17.440 he talks about himself being, you know,
00:34:19.640 the first openly gay president.
00:34:21.620 I think he's actually said that,
00:34:23.480 or people have said it about him.
00:34:24.660 But, it's funny that they put openly in there.
00:34:29.720 They have to say that he would be the first openly gay,
00:34:34.000 because there is, of course,
00:34:36.280 much speculation that he would not be the first gay president.
00:34:40.200 He would just be the first openly gay one.
00:34:42.480 I'm not going to name names,
00:34:43.740 but you can do that on your own.
00:34:49.980 Who will be the Democrat candidates?
00:34:54.260 Well, I think the odds of it being a brokered convention are high.
00:35:02.760 Because, I think that Bernie is going to come in with the most votes.
00:35:07.240 And, it will be a topic of common understanding by then,
00:35:12.480 among Democrats,
00:35:13.780 that he can't win.
00:35:16.000 I did a little poll of who would be the most entertaining.
00:35:19.260 It was just a Twitter poll,
00:35:20.520 so it's not,
00:35:21.200 it's certainly not scientific.
00:35:23.520 And, in the Twitter poll,
00:35:25.120 I said,
00:35:25.440 which of the top four vote-getting Democrats
00:35:27.800 would be the most entertaining?
00:35:29.480 Forget about who would have the best chance of winning.
00:35:31.540 Just who would be the most entertaining?
00:35:33.840 And,
00:35:34.240 Bernie won.
00:35:36.920 So, people think that the funniest,
00:35:39.280 most entertaining race
00:35:41.180 would be between Trump and Bernie.
00:35:43.240 I don't know.
00:35:44.580 Because, there's something about Bernie
00:35:45.800 that's,
00:35:46.360 that's not as fun to mock.
00:35:49.040 I felt like the right answer was Bloomberg.
00:35:54.680 Because,
00:35:55.460 you know,
00:35:56.060 two insulting New Yorker billionaires
00:35:59.220 fighting it out
00:36:00.200 would be a lot of fun.
00:36:03.440 Bernie,
00:36:04.000 I'm not sure,
00:36:04.500 takes the bait.
00:36:05.980 One of the reasons that Bernie does so well
00:36:08.220 is that he doesn't play the normal game.
00:36:11.760 So, I don't know he would respond
00:36:13.520 to insult for insult,
00:36:14.820 so that wouldn't be any fun.
00:36:16.680 Everything we know about Bernie,
00:36:18.120 he admits.
00:36:19.800 You know,
00:36:20.240 you could put a different word on it
00:36:21.640 and call him a communist,
00:36:22.840 but he's now hiding the fact
00:36:24.580 that he wants free health care
00:36:25.960 and free education and all that.
00:36:28.120 So,
00:36:28.480 I'm not sure that the normal
00:36:30.060 attacks against Bernie
00:36:31.740 would be fun.
00:36:33.020 Because,
00:36:33.480 it would just say,
00:36:34.260 it's just sort of things
00:36:35.380 that he admits are true.
00:36:37.200 Yes,
00:36:37.720 I'm a certain age.
00:36:39.580 You know,
00:36:39.800 yes,
00:36:40.580 I want to,
00:36:41.360 I want to do these things.
00:36:42.400 I don't know.
00:36:42.680 There's not much to it.
00:36:45.820 Well,
00:36:46.280 Biden would be the funniest,
00:36:47.600 but I don't think,
00:36:48.280 at this point,
00:36:49.140 nobody expects him
00:36:50.020 to be the nominee,
00:36:51.400 I think.
00:36:53.200 What's my opinion
00:36:54.060 on Project Veritas?
00:36:56.000 Well,
00:36:57.660 Project Veritas
00:36:58.640 is an amazing window
00:37:01.220 into behind the curtain.
00:37:02.960 I think it's been a real eye-opener
00:37:05.340 and scary
00:37:06.720 when you see some of the opinions.
00:37:08.800 But those opinions generally
00:37:10.360 are coming from individuals.
00:37:12.680 And in any organization,
00:37:14.120 you've got a wide range of opinions.
00:37:16.480 Some are very supportive
00:37:18.440 of the organization they're in.
00:37:20.840 Some people think their boss
00:37:22.200 is an idiot who should be fired.
00:37:23.700 So I always take it
00:37:26.260 as a useful data point.
00:37:29.580 So when I see a Project Veritas thing
00:37:31.360 where there's somebody undercover
00:37:33.960 saying something horrible,
00:37:35.560 I don't say to myself,
00:37:37.280 well,
00:37:37.580 there's the opinion
00:37:38.240 that they all share.
00:37:40.120 I say,
00:37:40.820 well,
00:37:41.080 there's one person,
00:37:42.680 maybe more,
00:37:43.480 if they show more people on camera,
00:37:45.220 who have this opinion,
00:37:46.660 which is odious.
00:37:48.040 Find me any organization
00:37:49.700 that does not have people
00:37:51.300 with odious opinions in it.
00:37:52.920 I don't think he could.
00:37:54.960 So I try to keep it in perspective.
00:37:57.160 I think it's useful
00:37:58.240 and illuminating,
00:37:59.720 definitely an eye-opener.
00:38:00.840 Sometimes it's jaw-dropping
00:38:02.080 to hear people talking candidly.
00:38:04.860 But try to keep it in perspective.
00:38:06.880 You know,
00:38:07.060 a lot of people
00:38:07.580 with a lot of different opinions
00:38:08.700 in the world.
00:38:11.760 Let's talk about those attorneys
00:38:13.460 who resigned,
00:38:14.740 the prosecutors in the Stone case
00:38:16.420 when the president and Barr
00:38:18.800 started looking into their decision
00:38:20.840 and four of them resigned.
00:38:23.160 Now,
00:38:23.920 could you say
00:38:24.700 that they had been dissed
00:38:26.420 by Barr?
00:38:28.360 Well,
00:38:28.680 in a sense,
00:38:30.000 you could say
00:38:30.540 that he dissed them.
00:38:32.600 And,
00:38:33.120 if the attorney general
00:38:34.500 was dissing
00:38:35.880 the attorneys,
00:38:38.240 could you say
00:38:39.040 the attorneys were
00:38:40.500 diss,
00:38:42.440 barred,
00:38:45.120 okay,
00:38:46.120 you don't have to laugh too hard.
00:38:47.820 That's right.
00:38:48.300 They were dissed
00:38:49.240 by Barr,
00:38:50.100 they were diss,
00:38:51.940 barred.
00:38:53.200 Saying it twice
00:38:53.920 makes it so much funnier.
00:38:55.900 All right.
00:38:58.600 Q and on,
00:38:59.700 your thoughts.
00:39:00.800 Is Q still around?
00:39:02.680 Does Q still exist?
00:39:05.500 You remember
00:39:06.380 my prediction
00:39:07.500 that Q was not real.
00:39:09.640 A lot of people
00:39:10.440 have that same opinion.
00:39:12.660 And sure enough,
00:39:13.320 we don't see a lot of
00:39:14.100 Q.
00:39:15.840 I think Q
00:39:17.180 petered out.
00:39:20.640 All right.
00:39:21.640 Did Bernie fire
00:39:22.920 the gulag guy?
00:39:23.900 That's a good question.
00:39:25.200 The guy who appeared
00:39:26.020 on the
00:39:26.640 Project Veritas
00:39:28.920 video.
00:39:30.620 I don't know
00:39:30.940 if he still has
00:39:31.500 his job or not.
00:39:33.860 Has the book
00:39:34.680 Profiles in Corruption
00:39:36.080 changed your mind
00:39:37.340 on Biden?
00:39:38.700 Well,
00:39:39.020 I haven't read it,
00:39:39.940 so no.
00:39:41.400 But I'm assuming
00:39:42.640 that in there
00:39:43.300 there are lots
00:39:44.000 of indications
00:39:44.760 of stuff
00:39:46.880 such as
00:39:47.520 Biden travels
00:39:48.380 somewhere
00:39:48.840 and then
00:39:49.380 his son
00:39:50.860 gets a big deal
00:39:51.700 in that same country.
00:39:53.000 I think we kind
00:39:54.000 of know all that stuff.
00:39:55.300 So I'm not sure
00:39:55.920 it changes my opinion.
00:39:57.580 My opinion is
00:39:58.500 it's obvious
00:39:59.220 that there was
00:40:00.000 something
00:40:00.480 swampy and sketchy,
00:40:02.780 but I don't know
00:40:03.720 of anything
00:40:04.080 that was
00:40:04.440 technically illegal.
00:40:06.620 It was just
00:40:07.300 awful.
00:40:07.840 But maybe
00:40:11.300 there is.
00:40:13.900 Somebody says
00:40:14.680 your polyps
00:40:15.300 are caused
00:40:15.720 by allergies.
00:40:16.620 They will
00:40:16.940 grow back.
00:40:17.840 That is correct.
00:40:19.700 There are
00:40:20.360 some treatments
00:40:20.880 to keep them
00:40:21.620 from growing
00:40:22.060 back quickly,
00:40:23.200 but there's
00:40:24.320 a high chance
00:40:24.820 they'll grow back.
00:40:32.480 I can't tell
00:40:33.400 what you're
00:40:33.780 groaning about.
00:40:35.900 I'm getting
00:40:36.540 lots of
00:40:37.100 some people
00:40:38.760 saying nice try.
00:40:40.820 Oh my God,
00:40:41.640 it's gotten worse
00:40:42.400 with Q.
00:40:44.300 Yes,
00:40:44.800 Q is definitely
00:40:45.460 active.
00:40:46.260 It's funny,
00:40:46.720 I don't see
00:40:47.140 anything about
00:40:47.700 them anymore.
00:40:48.340 Could it be
00:40:48.700 that I've
00:40:49.180 successfully
00:40:49.820 blocked them all?
00:40:51.560 I mentioned
00:40:52.420 this before,
00:40:53.100 but something
00:40:53.700 happened
00:40:54.300 on Twitter
00:40:55.640 in the past
00:40:56.940 month or two
00:40:58.320 where
00:40:59.340 my trolls
00:41:00.640 all disappeared.
00:41:02.260 And a lot
00:41:02.560 of my trolls
00:41:03.100 were Q supporters.
00:41:04.720 And I haven't
00:41:05.140 seen a Q supporter
00:41:06.240 I don't know
00:41:07.720 how long.
00:41:08.740 So I don't know
00:41:09.380 if I may have
00:41:10.900 clicked some
00:41:11.700 filter where
00:41:12.420 they all
00:41:12.740 disappeared.
00:41:13.720 And then the
00:41:14.080 other day,
00:41:14.540 I think it was
00:41:14.880 two days ago,
00:41:16.580 several hundred
00:41:17.260 people were
00:41:18.920 dropped off
00:41:19.500 of my Twitter
00:41:20.360 as followers.
00:41:22.000 So I don't know
00:41:22.700 if this happened
00:41:23.420 to any of you.
00:41:24.120 I lost several
00:41:24.780 hundred followers
00:41:25.600 on the same day.
00:41:26.920 Now, I don't
00:41:27.620 think that is
00:41:29.020 Twitter doing
00:41:29.720 anything
00:41:30.200 I don't think
00:41:33.200 that's Twitter
00:41:33.700 doing anything
00:41:34.800 unscrupulous.
00:41:39.400 I think that
00:41:40.300 probably those
00:41:41.320 were identified
00:41:42.360 bots and
00:41:43.600 accounts that
00:41:44.240 were fake
00:41:44.840 and not real.
00:41:45.780 So I'm guessing
00:41:46.500 that Twitter is
00:41:47.200 really active
00:41:48.060 this year
00:41:48.580 trying to delete
00:41:49.980 all the fake
00:41:50.660 accounts and the
00:41:51.340 bots and the
00:41:51.940 Russians and
00:41:52.440 everything.
00:41:53.220 And it wouldn't
00:41:53.740 surprise me at all
00:41:54.500 if I had several
00:41:55.140 hundred of them.
00:41:55.760 That wouldn't
00:41:56.760 even be a guess.
00:42:00.400 HEPA filters
00:42:01.140 in the house,
00:42:01.820 somebody says.
00:42:03.100 Yeah, maybe.
00:42:05.800 Am I vaccinated?
00:42:07.440 I am.
00:42:11.880 Somebody says,
00:42:15.020 Omer says,
00:42:15.860 I don't know
00:42:16.320 what to say,
00:42:16.820 but I want
00:42:17.180 your attention.
00:42:18.280 You win.
00:42:19.180 You got it.
00:42:20.920 Scott, you're
00:42:21.660 so out of it.
00:42:22.420 What's that
00:42:22.780 mean?
00:42:23.820 You mean
00:42:24.160 out of it today?
00:42:26.520 Well, I will
00:42:27.220 tell you that
00:42:27.820 for the last
00:42:28.860 three days I
00:42:29.520 have been waking
00:42:30.520 up at two in
00:42:31.260 the morning in
00:42:32.460 screaming pain and
00:42:34.060 rolling around on
00:42:35.060 the floor.
00:42:36.780 I mean that
00:42:37.380 literally, actually
00:42:38.340 rolling around on
00:42:39.140 the floor in pain.
00:42:40.920 So I'm only
00:42:41.840 getting three or
00:42:42.940 four hours of
00:42:43.580 sleep a night for
00:42:45.360 the last week.
00:42:46.700 That's a hold
00:42:49.620 over from the
00:42:50.440 meds side
00:42:51.800 effect.
00:42:55.760 poor Frito.
00:42:58.800 Did you see the
00:42:59.460 president's tweet
00:43:01.240 about going to
00:43:02.040 meet with the
00:43:03.240 governor,
00:43:04.380 Governor Cuomo
00:43:05.280 of New York,
00:43:06.120 who of course is
00:43:06.820 famously the
00:43:07.540 brother of Cuomo
00:43:09.960 on CNN?
00:43:11.900 And the
00:43:13.320 president is
00:43:14.740 mocking Cuomo
00:43:16.460 in New York
00:43:17.320 for what they're
00:43:18.340 doing with the,
00:43:19.780 well, it's a long
00:43:20.420 story, but it
00:43:20.940 doesn't matter.
00:43:21.340 And he throws
00:43:23.080 in, don't
00:43:24.540 bring Frito
00:43:25.200 to the
00:43:26.440 meeting.
00:43:28.520 He doesn't
00:43:30.280 know how to
00:43:31.800 stop causing
00:43:33.220 trouble.
00:43:36.720 I'm seeing lots
00:43:37.700 of medical
00:43:38.220 recommendations here.
00:43:40.080 Yeah, I use a
00:43:40.660 Nettipod every
00:43:41.280 day.
00:43:41.940 And I do have
00:43:42.820 meds to keep
00:43:43.640 the polyps to
00:43:45.440 a certain size.
00:43:47.300 All right, but
00:43:47.720 we don't need to
00:43:48.160 talk about that.
00:43:48.740 All right, so
00:43:50.740 somebody says,
00:43:53.480 is Buttigieg the
00:43:54.640 darling of the
00:43:55.580 intel community?
00:43:57.340 I don't know.
00:43:58.300 How would you
00:43:58.860 know that?
00:44:04.680 Have we seen
00:44:05.760 yet?
00:44:06.400 Somebody's asking
00:44:07.100 about,
00:44:08.460 somebody's asking
00:44:10.580 about the,
00:44:12.380 I'm sorry, I
00:44:13.480 lost my train of
00:44:14.180 thought because I
00:44:14.640 saw another
00:44:15.020 question.
00:44:15.840 Somebody's asking
00:44:16.560 what the pain is
00:44:17.940 that I'm rolling
00:44:18.480 around.
00:44:18.800 it's digestive
00:44:20.920 intestinal pain,
00:44:23.280 which is a
00:44:24.560 known side
00:44:25.100 effect.
00:44:25.680 When my doctor
00:44:26.820 prescribed the
00:44:27.920 antibiotics,
00:44:30.680 she, in one
00:44:31.700 case there was
00:44:32.180 another doctor,
00:44:32.880 he, they
00:44:34.420 said, this is
00:44:36.360 probably going to
00:44:36.920 cause you some
00:44:37.660 intestinal issues.
00:44:39.400 Man, were they
00:44:40.440 right.
00:44:40.780 thoughts on Trump
00:44:47.780 cutting student
00:44:48.680 loan forgiveness
00:44:49.620 in the public
00:44:50.480 sector?
00:44:50.900 I don't know
00:44:51.280 about that
00:44:51.620 story.
00:44:59.260 Is Amy Klobuchar
00:45:00.540 worth an 18 to 1
00:45:02.060 for the nomination?
00:45:03.400 Oh, I would say
00:45:04.040 so.
00:45:04.320 If the odds of
00:45:05.940 Klobuchar getting
00:45:07.160 the nomination are
00:45:08.240 18 to 1, I don't
00:45:09.460 know if that's the
00:45:10.060 case.
00:45:10.500 Somebody just said
00:45:11.200 that in the
00:45:12.020 comments.
00:45:13.080 But I would think
00:45:13.680 her odds of getting
00:45:14.420 the nomination are
00:45:15.260 closer to probably
00:45:19.640 5 to 1, something
00:45:21.380 like that.
00:45:22.500 So I think you
00:45:23.860 would likely lose
00:45:24.740 your bet, but those
00:45:27.160 odds are not bad.
00:45:28.040 Now, the reason
00:45:31.580 that, the reason
00:45:34.340 that Klobuchar has
00:45:35.220 more of a chance
00:45:36.040 than anyone else is
00:45:37.720 that I think she
00:45:38.660 could put up the
00:45:39.360 best fight.
00:45:40.920 So here's what
00:45:41.840 Klobuchar has going
00:45:42.760 for her.
00:45:43.360 She's a woman, so
00:45:44.540 she's going to bring
00:45:45.200 in the woman vote
00:45:46.000 somewhat automatically
00:45:47.220 because the Democrats
00:45:48.300 are basically as
00:45:50.600 primed as you could
00:45:51.520 possibly be for a
00:45:53.680 woman president.
00:45:54.640 And they would like
00:45:55.160 to get a little
00:45:56.300 revenge from last
00:45:57.280 time and,
00:45:58.040 and she would do
00:45:58.580 that.
00:45:59.260 The other thing
00:45:59.840 Klobuchar has is
00:46:01.600 that the biggest
00:46:03.220 negative she has is
00:46:05.580 a little bit like a
00:46:06.500 positive.
00:46:08.000 What's the biggest
00:46:08.820 negative that
00:46:09.600 Klobuchar has, which
00:46:10.620 is she's really tough
00:46:11.700 on her own staff.
00:46:13.840 Now, when you hear
00:46:14.520 that, how do you
00:46:15.720 process that?
00:46:17.300 Well, we see her
00:46:18.140 acting very civil and,
00:46:19.960 you know, politician
00:46:21.240 like in public, and
00:46:22.640 people like that.
00:46:23.660 They say, yeah,
00:46:24.320 that's the kind of
00:46:25.700 vibe we want from a
00:46:27.220 leader.
00:46:28.040 Very professional,
00:46:29.180 doesn't go too far,
00:46:30.200 et cetera.
00:46:31.820 But at the same time,
00:46:32.900 we hear that she's,
00:46:33.840 she's tough as nails,
00:46:35.220 maybe too tough on
00:46:36.700 her own staff.
00:46:37.860 What do you say about
00:46:38.820 that?
00:46:39.700 Well, it depends what
00:46:41.380 the job is.
00:46:42.580 If the job is
00:46:43.460 president, I'm kind of
00:46:45.660 okay with it because
00:46:46.460 it's the same thing that
00:46:47.300 you hear about Trump.
00:46:48.700 You hear that he's,
00:46:49.480 he's tough on his own
00:46:50.540 staff.
00:46:50.960 I generally think that
00:46:53.960 might be a requirement
00:46:55.160 for a good leader.
00:46:56.640 I think a good leader
00:46:57.960 has to be pretty tough
00:47:00.420 on the staff to get
00:47:02.200 that next level of
00:47:03.400 performance and to even
00:47:04.780 get rid of people who
00:47:05.720 are not A+.
00:47:07.360 So you don't get to A+,
00:47:09.480 if you're willing to put
00:47:11.460 up with B-plus work.
00:47:14.040 So if Klobuchar's
00:47:15.400 problem is that she
00:47:16.440 can't handle B-plus work
00:47:18.320 from a staff that she
00:47:20.080 expects to be A+,
00:47:21.340 that's not much of a
00:47:23.580 problem.
00:47:24.640 I mean, now, of course,
00:47:25.900 we don't know the
00:47:26.500 details of what's
00:47:27.960 happening behind the
00:47:28.920 scenes, but on the
00:47:30.320 surface, it's not as
00:47:32.040 much of a negative as
00:47:34.160 it could be.
00:47:35.220 Sort of a negative that
00:47:36.260 feels a little like a
00:47:37.180 positive.
00:47:38.200 Now, yeah, she's
00:47:40.480 boring, but it looks
00:47:42.000 like she's solving for
00:47:43.120 that, because her
00:47:44.320 last speech was
00:47:46.940 roundly praised as
00:47:49.900 being emotional and
00:47:50.980 good and on point.
00:47:52.700 So she's also very
00:47:54.120 smart, and she's a
00:47:55.520 learner.
00:47:57.120 You can always be
00:47:59.400 fooled by the people
00:48:00.560 who can learn.
00:48:02.220 And if you look at
00:48:03.260 where she is right now
00:48:04.840 compared to the day
00:48:05.780 she started, is she
00:48:07.540 better?
00:48:08.360 I'd say yes.
00:48:10.060 I'd say she's
00:48:10.920 improved.
00:48:11.420 And you don't know
00:48:12.880 how far that can take
00:48:13.980 you.
00:48:14.420 In the same way that I
00:48:15.420 think President Trump
00:48:16.320 has become much better
00:48:18.240 at being a president,
00:48:19.660 even with all the
00:48:20.540 trouble he gets into.
00:48:21.940 But he's certainly
00:48:22.540 better at it, because
00:48:23.460 practice helps.
00:48:26.360 So Klobuchar would be
00:48:27.740 the strongest contender,
00:48:30.100 and if the Democrats
00:48:31.460 decide to pull together
00:48:33.280 and go forward with
00:48:35.380 their strongest
00:48:36.120 candidate, I think
00:48:38.520 is her.
00:48:40.260 But, so the
00:48:41.660 unknown is whether
00:48:43.140 the Democrats will
00:48:44.460 ever pull together
00:48:45.360 and try to get
00:48:46.540 behind a candidate
00:48:47.460 who actually would
00:48:48.400 have a legitimate
00:48:49.000 chance of winning.
00:48:50.140 I think Bernie doesn't
00:48:51.120 have a legitimate
00:48:52.060 chance.
00:48:53.060 I think Bloomberg,
00:48:53.920 he has more of a
00:48:56.900 shot than the
00:48:57.940 others.
00:48:59.320 He has more of a
00:49:00.040 shot than most of
00:49:01.120 the others except
00:49:01.780 Klobuchar, I would
00:49:02.520 say.
00:49:02.860 And maybe even a
00:49:03.520 better shot than
00:49:04.080 Klobuchar.
00:49:04.920 But if you're a
00:49:05.480 Democrat, do you
00:49:07.100 want to back the
00:49:07.780 guy who's exactly the
00:49:09.140 opposite of the guy
00:49:09.940 you want to be your
00:49:10.620 president?
00:49:12.000 He's almost like
00:49:14.580 slightly better than
00:49:16.340 Trump, you know, in
00:49:18.180 your mind, because you
00:49:19.100 say, oh, it's another
00:49:19.940 old white guy from
00:49:20.940 New York with a
00:49:21.600 billion dollars and
00:49:22.520 more, you know, so I
00:49:25.120 just don't know that
00:49:25.740 he's got enough
00:49:26.240 contrast to win.
00:49:29.100 But Klobuchar has all
00:49:30.020 the contrast in the
00:49:30.860 world, and I don't
00:49:32.080 think that she would
00:49:32.860 take any crap from
00:49:34.600 the president.
00:49:35.820 She seems tough
00:49:36.540 enough.
00:49:37.740 I don't know.
00:49:40.980 And I've said this
00:49:42.460 before, but I think
00:49:43.360 one of the things you
00:49:44.620 have to watch out for
00:49:45.440 is the pendulum
00:49:46.060 effect, because the
00:49:47.540 country always likes
00:49:48.540 to fight the last
00:49:50.320 war, if you know
00:49:51.180 what I mean.
00:49:51.580 So if the thing
00:49:52.860 that's bothering you
00:49:53.740 at the moment is
00:49:55.380 Trump's personality,
00:49:56.920 there are going to
00:49:57.760 be a whole lot of
00:49:58.380 people who say, you
00:49:59.220 know, I just want
00:50:01.160 something different.
00:50:02.840 And who's got the
00:50:03.940 closest to the
00:50:04.740 opposite of his
00:50:05.560 personality?
00:50:07.220 Klobuchar, probably.
00:50:09.860 She's pretty solid.
00:50:11.780 All right.
00:50:13.660 Yeah, Warren, here's
00:50:15.520 my take on Warren.
00:50:17.480 I don't know that you
00:50:18.920 can, well, let me put
00:50:20.580 it this way, a little
00:50:22.640 bit of Warren goes a
00:50:23.880 long way.
00:50:25.560 And I think this is
00:50:26.800 not to do with her
00:50:28.120 gender, because I
00:50:29.140 think I have the same
00:50:30.040 feeling about Bernie.
00:50:31.740 My problem with
00:50:32.680 Bernie and my problem
00:50:34.040 with Elizabeth Warren
00:50:35.100 is that they're both
00:50:36.440 very substantial people,
00:50:38.360 you know, substantial
00:50:39.220 records of service,
00:50:41.780 substantial careers,
00:50:43.800 smart, you know, good
00:50:46.320 leadership qualities,
00:50:47.760 very substantial people.
00:50:50.080 But I can't watch them
00:50:51.680 for a long time.
00:50:52.780 Do you have that?
00:50:54.000 I can watch Bernie for
00:50:57.080 about a minute, and then
00:50:59.120 I just need to change
00:51:00.360 the channel.
00:51:01.220 And it's not because I
00:51:02.120 don't like, you know,
00:51:03.380 Bernie's personality, or
00:51:05.400 I just can't watch him.
00:51:08.120 I don't know.
00:51:08.660 You know, it's a
00:51:10.320 television world, and
00:51:12.060 when he's on there
00:51:12.840 shouting his old man,
00:51:14.580 you know, yelling at
00:51:15.300 the sky stuff, I just
00:51:17.220 don't like watching it.
00:51:18.840 By contrast, I can sit
00:51:21.000 down and I can watch an
00:51:22.440 hour of Trump at a
00:51:24.180 rally.
00:51:24.840 I can watch Trump give a
00:51:26.520 15-minute press
00:51:27.840 conference, and I'm
00:51:29.260 riveted the whole time.
00:51:31.220 I'm riveted.
00:51:32.500 And, you know, Obama had
00:51:33.760 the same quality.
00:51:34.660 He could hold the
00:51:36.760 camera like a few
00:51:38.380 people before him.
00:51:39.120 Bill Clinton, same
00:51:40.040 thing.
00:51:40.660 I could watch Bill
00:51:41.460 Clinton talk forever.
00:51:43.200 When Bill Clinton would
00:51:44.200 give the State of the
00:51:46.140 Union, it was good
00:51:47.720 stuff.
00:51:48.420 You could watch that
00:51:49.280 like you were watching
00:51:51.260 a good TV show.
00:51:52.240 When Ronald Reagan gave
00:51:53.500 the State of the
00:51:54.420 Union, you'd cry.
00:51:56.420 It was like watching
00:51:57.120 the best show you'd
00:51:58.100 ever watch.
00:51:58.660 You could watch him
00:51:59.280 for a long time.
00:52:00.560 But Elizabeth Warren,
00:52:02.620 can you watch her
00:52:04.380 for 10 minutes?
00:52:07.720 I can't.
00:52:08.920 And it doesn't have
00:52:09.600 anything to do with
00:52:10.220 her policies or
00:52:11.060 opinions.
00:52:12.080 There's something about
00:52:13.140 her, and just so it
00:52:15.000 doesn't sound sexist,
00:52:16.020 I'm throwing Bernie
00:52:16.780 into my analysis.
00:52:18.380 But I have a very
00:52:19.100 similar feeling about
00:52:20.000 Bernie.
00:52:21.040 A minute, two minutes
00:52:22.980 of Warren, that's
00:52:24.580 plenty.
00:52:25.660 That's sort of all I
00:52:26.840 need.
00:52:27.560 A minute, two minutes
00:52:28.580 of Bernie, that's all
00:52:30.300 I need.
00:52:31.360 Now, this is not the
00:52:33.620 same for, let's say,
00:52:35.500 Buttigieg.
00:52:36.720 I can listen to
00:52:37.660 Buttigieg.
00:52:38.760 I can actually listen
00:52:42.160 to, there's something
00:52:46.060 happening around here.
00:52:48.200 I'm hearing something
00:52:48.800 of a chainsaw.
00:52:50.020 Hope that's not in my
00:52:50.860 house.
00:52:53.200 I can even listen to
00:52:54.540 Biden for a fairly long
00:52:57.000 time for a different
00:52:58.140 reason, just to see if he
00:52:59.520 says something crazy.
00:53:01.000 But he's not, he's
00:53:03.120 not, I don't know, he's
00:53:05.660 not hard to listen to
00:53:06.700 the way Bernie is, the
00:53:07.800 way Warren is.
00:53:08.940 So that's all I got for
00:53:09.760 that.
00:53:10.440 All right.
00:53:11.640 I don't have much else
00:53:12.720 to say, so I'm going to
00:53:15.060 end here.
00:53:16.380 And happy Valentine's Day,
00:53:17.480 and I'll talk to you
00:53:18.000 later.
00:53:18.180 I'll talk to you
00:53:31.200 about this one thot.
00:53:31.540 Amen.
00:53:31.840 Amen.
00:53:31.960 Amen.
00:53:32.160 Amen.
00:53:32.320 Amen.
00:53:32.520 Amen.
00:53:33.940 Amen.
00:53:34.260 Amen.
00:53:34.560 Amen.
00:53:36.120 Amen.
00:53:36.740 Amen.
00:53:37.480 Amen.
00:53:38.260 Amen.
00:53:39.100 Amen.
00:53:39.400 Amen.
00:53:40.080 Amen.
00:53:40.180 Amen.
00:53:40.300 Amen.
00:53:41.000 Amen.
00:53:41.160 Amen.
00:53:41.240 Amen.
00:53:41.360 Amen.
00:53:41.740 Amen.
00:53:42.280 Amen.
00:53:43.340 Amen.
00:53:43.720 Amen.
00:53:44.380 Amen.
00:53:44.400 Amen.
00:53:44.700 Amen.
00:53:45.280 Amen.
00:53:45.320 Amen.
00:53:45.800 Amen.
00:53:46.640 Amen.
00:53:46.740 Amen.
00:53:47.600 Amen.