Episode 822 Scott Adams: Was Live! (Here's the Replay)
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In this episode of the podcast, I talk about why Bloomberg is the best politician in New York City and why he's running for president in 2020 against Donald Trump. I also discuss why anti-Trumpers need a special kind of evil and incompetence that doesn't kick in for four years to explain why they think Trump is a bad guy.
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just coming out of it see what I'm doing it's an illusion all right let's talk
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about the only thing that the news cares about this week Bloomberg so it turns out
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we found a candidate who in his own way might be as interesting as Trump now of
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course he's only interesting because of his matchup with Trump so it's really all
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about Trump still but Mike Bloomberg is he's a he's making the he's making a run
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here now all of the we'll talk about Mike Bloomberg's persuasion game in a minute
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but there's something interesting that anti-Trumpers have to hold in their head
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as true in order for them to figure out why they need to replace Trump and this is
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it you're gonna laugh when you hear this because I swear I'm not making anything up
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everything I'm gonna say I think you would you would verify as an accurate
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description of the world in order to be a Democrat who is anti-Trump and thinks
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that he really needs to be removed for all of his evil all of his incredible evil
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and incompetence in order to believe that you would also have to believe that it's a
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special kind of evil and incompetence that doesn't kick in for four years see
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where I'm coming from apparently in order to think that everything they believe
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about Trump is true and has always been true the only way you could explain it
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based on what we're observing is that it's a special kind of evil with a four-year
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refuse so really the first four years not much happened that seemed bad news
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things look like they went pretty well for four years objectively speaking sure you
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can pick out things you wish were better but the last four years certainly were
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anywhere near what people predicted would happen so in order to hold that
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illusion you've got a paper over it as as you observe things which disconfirm your
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belief you have to quickly paper them over oh paper that over and by election day
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2020 what they're gonna have to paper over is why they believe that Trump has a
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special kind of evil and incompetence that waits four years before it shows its head
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now of course they would say we've been seeing it all along look at this or that he
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did but it's hard to point to anything you could actually measure that would be
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evidence of that the the counter example to that would be the national debt but I
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think everybody's unhappy about that in the same amount and probably whoever was
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president would have done the same thing but think about the mental gymnastics you
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have to go through to say it's a special evil that wastes four years before it
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kicks in I saw an interview I'm not sure who it was was interviewing Joe Biden and
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was challenging him about the Obama administration putting kids in cages and
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oh it was it was kind of sad trying to watch Joe Biden escape the trap because Joe
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Biden is no president Trump Trump can escape traps you famously remember the only
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Rosie O'Donnell escape one of the greatest one of the greatest Houdini escapes from a
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trick question you've ever seen in your life or a trap question it wasn't the
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trick but Biden just he just didn't didn't get it done so Biden's got a kid in cages
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problem because even the question is damaging independent of what of what he answers now that
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now that people are willing to ask the question it's the question that's the problem
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because nobody really believes the answers anyway when they come from politicians all
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right let's talk about Bloomberg there's a report that Bloomberg hired an expert on narcissism
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and a comedy writer so he hired two people one is an expert on narcissism and the other knows how to write
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humor and I'm thinking to myself I guess he doesn't have the budget to hire me because I can do both of
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those jobs oh I wouldn't call myself an expert on narcissism but I have lived with myself for quite a few few
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years and I've observed myself and so while I'm not technically an expert on narcissism I think I
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know what it feels like from the inside out and I write humor for a living so one billion dollars is my
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price Mike Bloomberg if you're listening it's kind of a bargain for one billion dollars I will consult with
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you Mike Bloomberg that price will go up every month until election day so next month it'll be
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1.1 billion I made this offer to Hillary Clinton in 2016 and she didn't take it now do you think it
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would have been worth a billion oh and here's the catch I know Mike Bloomberg you like to you like to
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negotiate you're a business guy so here's the deal I won't take a penny if you lose if you lose the
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election I won't take a penny free consulting you just keep it all but if I win in other words if
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if you get elected because of my excellent consulting my expertise on narcissism and my humor writing
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I will take 1.1 billion next month if you if you get in early you can get the discount save 100 million
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dollars who doesn't want to save 100 million dollars I mean seriously I'm looking at the comments
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saying would you actually work for him do you think he's going to give me a billion dollars
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so those of you who are not not too good at determining what is serious and what is not
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can maybe talk among yourselves to the others all right um we will talk about Hillary all right
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let's talk about Hillary so I guess it was Drudge Report broke this story that is the biggest non-story in
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the world it was all the headlines it was all the chatter yesterday and it's literally nothing and the
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story was that the Bloomberg campaign is considering asking Hillary Clinton to be the vice president it's
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like all over the news like all over the news now what's wrong with that story let me tell you do you know
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which other candidates running for president on the Democrat side do you know which other candidates also
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considered asking Hillary Clinton to be their vice president the answer is all of them all of them
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they all considered it if they didn't they're idiots because it's certain it's on the it's on the plate
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it's one of the things that they all should have considered now that doesn't mean that they would like
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to do it it doesn't mean they considered it and said yes or that they considered it and said no or that
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they've even decided because it would be too early to decide one way or the other it is simply true
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that all of them considered it so what so what is the breaking news yesterday that Bloomberg considered
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it that's not news what's the opposite of news let me give you some more breaking highlights from
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yesterday Mike Bloomberg breathed oxygen yesterday yeah so Mike Bloomberg
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ate lunch yesterday yeah and is there more to this story because it's lacking a little bit of punch
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doesn't have that dog doesn't have that man bites dog quality to it so ignore all of that apparently
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you know the the detail of the story is that they had some internal polling showing that a combination of
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hillary and and bloomberg would win against trump okay sure because a combination of bloomberg
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and and hillary clinton would there would be no targets there would there
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president trump would have a tough time attacking that duo wouldn't he are you freaking kidding me
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would you pair the woman who protected bill clinton against all manner of accusations true and probably
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some of them false but most of them true i assume would you pair him with the guy who's being accused of
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exactly the same stuff at this moment probably not would hillary clinton ever allow herself to go from
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keep this in mind her current status is someone who claims that she sort of kind of won the presidency
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because she got the popular vote oh yeah yeah we all understand that that doesn't mean she's president
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but that's her current claim what if she runs as vice president that's not really a step forward is it
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do you think hillary clinton wants the what might be the last move of her political career
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to be losing to trump a second time except this time as vice president
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i don't think so can you imagine hillary's ego taking the number two spot because the number one guy
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is really really rich there isn't any there's no scenario in the whole world except one where i can
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imagine that happening are you ready here's the one scenario if mike blueberg plans in advance to step
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down after he gets elected so that would make hillary the winner without her having to actually
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do much to run for president in fact you know that would that would be a diabolically clever approach
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i'm not saying he's going to do this but just you know play it through your mind imagine if
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bloomberg said here's the deal i'm going to run for president hillary will be my vp so we've got some
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you know good connections and you know and uh you know i'll have all the right people who know where
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all the keys are kept and you know she could step in any moment if something happened because i'm
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i'm older so you can imagine him saying that but what people are really thinking is well you're really
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just electing hillary clinton she wouldn't even have to campaign she wouldn't even have to leave
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what she was doing she would just stay on her book tour she could just you know stay home and take
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questions because everybody knows who hillary clinton is she doesn't need to she doesn't need
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to tell people her qualifications she doesn't even need to explain why mike bloomberg would be a good
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president she could simply just go on with her life be named as vice president and then when bloomberg
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gets elected he can just say huh trick i quit hillary is your president so i don't think that's the
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plan he's playing so i don't think there's any chance that hillary would join as a real vice
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president who plans to be the number two job and and retire in that role i guess all right um
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it feels like it feels like if you were to start from nothing and try to build a candidate who would
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be the worst matchup for trump wouldn't it be mike bloomberg i mean you could argue that it would be
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bernie because socialism against capitalism is sort of dead on arrival so you know bernie is a sure
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thing to lose because of his policies uh because i can't see him even getting enough democrats to vote
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for that that that he could get it over the top but if you were to design a more standard politician
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someone who's not trying to sell you the full socialist uh package and you were you were trying
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to design them as poorly as possible wouldn't it be bloomberg because if you think about it everything
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that you dislike about trump if you're a anti-trumper you can find at least a little bit of it in in
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bloomberg so bloomberg has a history of uh sexual related accusations sound familiar and let's be
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serious any billionaire that age male or female has got some sexual stories they need to explain it's
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just universally true don't tell me there's you know don't give me the story about the billionaire who
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you know who never wandered uh that's just not a thing all right so he's got that then biden or i'm
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sorry then bloomberg also has that problem with uh stop and frisk so he's got a problem with women
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he's got a problem with minorities he's way too old white guy from new york billionaire with entanglements
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and with a major country with which we are an adversary now in in bloomberg's case he's got
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a china situation that he would need to explain and then you know throw on there that he's boring
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he has no charisma he had to hire he had to hire a joke writer do you think trump hired a joke writer
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nope i well i mean i could be surprised i suppose anything anything's possible but when you read trump's
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funny tweets and and the funny stuff he says in his speeches none of them look prepared you know
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none of it looks like it went through a consultant or some expert it really looks like his it's his voice
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so i don't know how bloomberg could possibly win against this now if you haven't read up on
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there's some kind of a compilation of mike bloomberg offensive things he said that is making the rounds
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i guess it's it makes the rounds every time he's run for office somebody brings up the fact that within
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the bloomberg organization some person or people compiled a list of all of his sort of provocative and
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naughty quotes and uh there is one topic that comes up over and over again
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and i don't want to say the top i don't want to say the topic but if you read what he is accused of
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frequently referring to uh it's a two-word thing the first the first word starts with b and the second
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word starts with j and uh apparently he can make a b j uh an elegy or reference in just about any topic
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the only thing that would cause me to suddenly back bloomberg for president is if he was willing
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to take that kind of talk into the presidency if you could give me a president who whenever he's
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talking to a foreign leader he throws in a bj analogy which apparently bloomberg did on the regular when he
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was just the ceo of bloomberg but uh to put it in context i don't believe that's been happening in recent
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years because you know sensibilities have uh have certainly uh let's say evolved so even he would
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know not to do that today i'm sure but um he's got a lot of explaining to do now there are a few
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accusations of things he is supposed to have said in the past that i'm going to say i don't quite
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believe all right so here's one of the accusations is that bloomberg allegedly with a with a big
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question mark on allegedly here for me uh there was some employee who said she was pregnant and
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bloomberg allegedly said some version of are you going to kill it now i wasn't there and i can't read
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minds but on its surface if you don't know anything else about the story does that sound like something
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that happened i'm going to say no now uh if you told me um he did ask the question about whether
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she wanted to you know take it to term or not i would believe that i mean that would be a deeply
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offensive question but i could certainly believe he might have asked but do you think he actually used
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these words are you going to kill it you know you can't rule it out right because that sort of
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anything's possible people can surprise you you know people have a public face but maybe they have
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a darker side i'm going to say no i'm going to say no i think that if you want to find reasons to
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dislike bloomberg you need to look beyond that one because that doesn't even that's not even a little
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bit credible there let me give you some context on this as a as a famous person myself um i'm often
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the subject of uh accusations some true some false and some of the false ones are so ridiculous that
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people should be able to say on the surface okay i just on the surface i don't even need to hear your
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side of it scott i don't even need to hear the context because on the surface it's obviously
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baloney so if you heard a rumor that i was in favor of you know eating babies so let's say tomorrow
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there's a headline that says dilbert cartoonist comes out in favor of cannibalism but only babies
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because they're tender what should be your first thought about that your first thought what should be
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no he didn't say that he didn't say that whatever he said may have sounded to somebody like that but
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on the surface he didn't say that so this quote about bloomberg you know are you going to kill your
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baby on the surface you know maybe maybe but i'm going to go with didn't happen
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then he's got another quote that somebody was having trouble finding a nanny for their baby
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and then bloomberg is alleged again with a big question mark and alleged to say something like
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this um that she could find quote a black to watch it and the person doesn't even need to speak english
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because it's just a baby you just have to make sure you get the baby out of this if the building's
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on fire so i'm paraphrasing but the the offensive part was he's alleged to say you just have to find
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a black to watch it does that sound like something he said because it doesn't really sound like a sentence
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like who who would say that sentence so i've got a question mark on that all right um but again maybe
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you know anything's possible but i would say those are the two that are least likely all right um
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so in response to these accusations of things that um bloomberg allegedly said in the past
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this is what his campaign said and i want to i want to pull this apart because there's a lot of
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persuasion in here or lack thereof all right so in response to terrible things bloomberg is alleged to
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have said in his past the campaign issues this statement virtually all of this has been reported
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over the past two decades so does that mean he did it he didn't do it does he feel bad about it
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does he does he does he uh run away from those comments we don't know the first sentence is that
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it's been reported before okay and they go on in any large organization there are going to be complaints
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what but mike simply does not tolerate any kind of discrimination or harassment and he's created
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cultures that are all about equality and inclusion so they uh so they they give some context in any
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large organization there are going to be complaints uh this is a bad misuse of the steve jobs technique
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now i hope they didn't get this from me because uh i've i've written about this and in fact my my
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comments on this made it into the uh i think it was the was it the walter isaacson biography of jobs
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called jobs and it tells that story of where when steve jobs had the problem with the antenna gate
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when the iphone would cut off if your finger touched the wrong part of the phone most embarrassing
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problem you could have if you're making a handheld device well it's a handheld device but it won't work
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if you hold it in your hand and steve jobs when he finally commented on this said you know a more
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brilliant version of this but he said yeah we're we want to make our customers happy all cell phone
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companies have problems this is what we're going to do now in his case it made a lot of sense to
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broaden the the question instead of saying does does apple have a special problem he said all smartphones
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have problems and suddenly the news started looking at other cell phones and they said oh yeah that's
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true they all have problems it's a new technology and he just put it in a whole new context but that
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doesn't work with sexual harassment complaints you can't use that technique with sexual harassment
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you can use it with a technical bug on your phone but you can't say you can't you can't wipe that
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away by saying in any larger large organization there are going to be complaints and i'm thinking
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that didn't make it better now in any large technological situation you're going to have
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bugs and people go well that's reasonable you know we wish it didn't happen but yeah any new technology
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you're going to have some bugs so people get that but would you ever accept yeah a person don't let's
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not call it bloomberg but a person a person was sexual harassing in the past but you know in any
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large organization you're going to get a lot of sexual harassment so put it in context totally the
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wrong persuasion to use in this situation because there there's no explaining away that behavior
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based on the fact that other people are complaining in large organizations
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but they tried um and then then it brought it to the present which that part was good and they say
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he doesn't tolerate any of this behavior at the moment i'm adding the at the moment part so i think
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what they're trying to do is just say it wasn't that important let's focus on the present and i think
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maybe their instinct was wrong but i'm not sure that that message was the best
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um here's my persuasion rule people like a reformed sinner more than they like a liar
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so the candidate who can say yeah you know you got me not only do you got me i did more of that too
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i did the things i was accused of doing and man do i see how wrong that is now at the time i don't
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know what i was thinking you know i apologize to anybody who was hurt but i'm not that person
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anymore and i would fight hard to make sure that there are no people like that around me
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now that would be an example of a reformed sinner here's the alternative i didn't do that they're all
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liars they're all liars which one do you like more well it depends if you believe them if you believe
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that the accusations are false then the person who's lying about it wins but i think most of us
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sort of suspect there's something there when there are accusations it's unfair but we're sort of biased
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toward thinking that the accused are guilty even when many times they're not but we're biased to think that
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i don't know i think that uh i think bloomberg would be stronger if he said you know we were less
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enlightened back then and if there are any of you who are still if any of you today are like i was
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in the 80s let me help you let me help you grow out of that because i wish i had never gone through
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it i wish i had never been that way but at least i understand now what the cost was what i did wrong
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and if and i understand that world and i'll help you i'll help you grow out of it too now something
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like that i would say oh that guy was bad before but he's not so bad now not so bad now but he was
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bad before and he just owned it so keep that in mind a reformed a sinner if you do it right you have
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to do it right the execution matters but a reformed sinner could be more popular than somebody you say
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well i think maybe they did it they're just lying about it all right um
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i was watching hilariously scientist richard dawkins get in trouble online and um an alert an alert reader
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noted that the the people who were mad at this famous scientist were not themselves scientists
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uh you know why i'm saying this my book loser think talks about how people who have experience
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in different domains are more qualified to think productively because you learn to think differently
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in different domains and so famous scientist and famous famous atheist which doesn't matter to this
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story but that's why he's famous richard dawkins i think he uh what would be his field of science biology
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or more i'm not sure exactly his scientific resume but evolutionary biology is certainly a big part of it
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plus other plus other things i'm sure so he's talking about eugenics the idea of breeding humans to
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have some improved qualities according to somebody's subjective opinion and this is what richard dawkins says on the
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topic of that now keep in mind he knows it's you know he knows it's a full of landmines this is a really
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touchy topic so he's going to go careful he's going to be very clear about what he says so he doesn't get
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in any trouble all right so watch the clarity of this statement it's one thing to deplore eugenics on
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ideological political moral grounds it's quite another to conclude that it wouldn't work in practice
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of course it would it works for cows horses pigs dogs and roses why on earth wouldn't it work for
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humans facts ignore ideology so his very first sentence is it's it's a different different topic
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if you're talking about the moral ethical political ideological stuff so he's telling you that what
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follows has nothing to do with that do you think that the people who read his tweet took him exactly
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the way he said it which is from a mechanical factual perspective of course it would work you could breed
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people to have different characteristics because you can do it with roses you can do with animals of
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course you could do it with people it would just have issues on political moral ideological grounds
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so here's the fun part i'm going to read you the uh some of the pushback and then we're going to
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see if you can guess what kind of job they have the person pushing back all right so a scientist clearly
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says it would work here's some pushback from a guy named scott lynch he says you absolute pinheaded
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simpleton it doesn't work in practice because too many of the goals turn out to be arbitrary fantasies
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and too many of those fantasies are the pet projects of abusive bigots who f up any civilization and get they get
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their hands on are you new here and then he uses a another bad word okay so he clearly didn't understand the
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point that the scientist was just saying scientifically it works you can make up your own mind about the ethics and the
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practicality practicality of it what's his job author author okay so that's what the author says here's
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here's another comment see if you can guess the uh job this is from dan hicks he says this is racist trash
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richard the analogy you draw here between the ideology of eugenics and the domestication of cows or horses is
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false dangerous and historically illiterate okay so here's somebody who didn't understand the point at all
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what kind of job does dan hicks have looks like college professor of he studies uh art he's a art anthropologist
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his field is art and anthropology okay here's another one um
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here's another guy who just says uh it's time to delete this one buddy in other words he doesn't even have to give the
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reasons it's just so obvious there's still time to delete this one buddy
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what job did the person who tweeted that have uh let's check musician all right so
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so so people are now noticing the uh the correlation none of the people who criticized
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dawkin understood it nobody understood him to say this is the stuff i'm not talking about so let's not
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talk about it here's what i am talking about if you'd like to talk about that i'll talk about that you
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know does it work but i'm not talking about this other stuff and then three of his critics
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jump in because artists can't separate artists conflate engineers and scientists separate so if
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you're if somebody is a let's say a lawyer economist business person scientist if they've gone through
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one of those fields they tend to isolate variables and say okay this one doesn't affect this one let's
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look at them individually artists musicians and authors say everything if fix everything else it's all one
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big ball you can't claim it doesn't matter that it's associated with this other thing so you'll see that
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pretty pretty commonly all right i believe that's just about all i had to talk about anything else going
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on today somebody said i understood it and it was really vile what was what was really vile that you
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understood did you was the vile part the part you agree with because if you're saying that richard dawkins
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comment is vile what part because he didn't make a comment on whether it was good or bad or practical
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or political or anything he didn't make a comment he just said it works do you disagree with the fact
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or do you think it's going to lead to the end of the world or something all right um
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uh yep all right so that's all i have for today
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yeah we're all talking about president trump doing a lap at the daytona 500 in the beast
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the presidential car i guess if that's if uh if that's what we're talking about
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uh it's it's a good time if that's what we're talking about somebody asked if yang is a possible
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vp pick i would say no because you want your vp to be somebody who knows where where all the keys
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and the locks are in government yang would be not as able as someone else to walk into the top job
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as quickly all right that's all i got for now i will talk to you tomorrow