Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 881 Scott Adams： Sip Away Your Cares and Learn What the Future Holds

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00:01:14.040 Well, many of you saw my Periscope last night, and you know that I thought that the president's most recent press conference

00:01:21.380 on the coronavirus is the best he's ever done, in my opinion.

00:01:25.780 I think he had the best tone following the experts, showed command of the topic, showed confidence,

00:01:35.940 showed, you know, decisive leadership.

00:01:39.060 I thought it was the whole package.

00:01:42.660 So I would say it's his best performance yet.

00:01:47.880 But does that make everybody happy?

00:01:49.560 No, it does not.

00:01:50.680 Because the big news, of course, is that the president moved his aspirational target

00:01:55.480 from the middle of April to the end of April.

00:01:59.560 A few more weeks, and I don't think it'll be done then, necessarily.

00:02:04.380 It might be a few weeks after that.

00:02:06.500 I would say this was exactly the right way to play it, even though it looks like a mistake.

00:02:13.200 Here's why.

00:02:13.920 If you could design in advance the best way that the president could have played it,

00:02:20.560 you know, if you had hindsight, perfect hindsight, how would you advise him to play it?

00:02:27.640 And this is with knowledge of how things turned out.

00:02:30.640 Now, if you had knowledge of the way things turned out, you probably would have played it

00:02:34.660 exactly the way he did, which is to set a date that wasn't so far in the future that people would panic,

00:02:41.500 and it wasn't so far in the future that people would start to hoard again.

00:02:47.080 So people wouldn't say, my God, it's going to be weeks and months.

00:02:50.540 I better re-hoard.

00:02:52.260 So instead, he says, you know, we're going to make the decisions based on the data.

00:02:57.600 So he always left himself the opening that things could stop, you know, change in a minute.

00:03:02.860 He always said that as clearly as possible.

00:03:05.720 But aspirational, we're going to shoot for this date.

00:03:07.680 Now, that date was soon enough in the future that it probably did not cause anybody to do much of any extra hoarding

00:03:15.900 and also felt, huh, I could handle that.

00:03:19.980 I could do a few more weeks, you know, and see how it looks.

00:03:22.580 I could probably handle that.

00:03:24.140 And then as we get, you know, a little closer to that deadline,

00:03:28.480 the president has looked at the data, listened to the experts, and extended it.

00:03:32.380 That's probably the very best way this could have played out.

00:03:37.900 Because if he had originally said April 30th, it would have felt really hard.

00:03:44.760 But by saying, you know, the cat's on the roof, if you know what I mean, that's an old joke,

00:03:50.660 you know, sort of easing us into it,

00:03:52.700 I think that psychologically we were more primed to say,

00:03:58.380 oh, okay, a few extra weeks, I've gone this far, you know,

00:04:03.180 it hasn't been the worst thing in the world.

00:04:06.200 I could go a few extra weeks.

00:04:08.540 So even if he had had perfect hindsight and had known from the start

00:04:12.560 exactly when the new dates were going to be,

00:04:15.880 it probably was better to have an interim date

00:04:17.920 and then just ease us into it.

00:04:20.680 Because managing our psychology is one of the biggest parts of his job right now.

00:04:26.020 All right.

00:04:27.540 But here's my favorite part.

00:04:30.620 The president in pivoting from the guy who wants to open up maybe too early

00:04:36.540 and go back to work maybe a little bit before the experts say,

00:04:40.660 changed overnight into the guy who really is going to lock us down for quite a few weeks.

00:04:49.040 So if you're CNN, what do you criticize?

00:04:52.780 Because you've got to be on the opposite side.

00:04:55.300 How do you get on the opposite side of somebody

00:04:57.600 who has had two opposing opinions in 24 hours?

00:05:01.480 How do you do it?

00:05:03.840 So if you've watched the president's enemy press,

00:05:07.520 either CNN or MSNBC,

00:05:09.500 they're a little left-footed today

00:05:11.720 because they don't quite know what to do,

00:05:15.160 especially since the way the president pivoted

00:05:17.680 was publicly and obviously,

00:05:20.580 in response to his best experts,

00:05:24.000 giving him their best advice.

00:05:26.720 What are you going to do?

00:05:28.820 I mean, seriously, you're his critic,

00:05:31.300 and he just took the advice of the experts,

00:05:33.540 the very thing that people are most concerned about this president,

00:05:38.260 and he did the opposite.

00:05:40.520 What are you going to do?

00:05:42.020 So just watch for this for purely entertainment purposes.

00:05:46.760 Watch how desperately the anti-Trump press

00:05:51.000 is just searching for something that he did wrong.

00:05:55.460 Now, of course, we would expect that the criticism

00:05:58.460 would start landing on the

00:06:00.540 should have taken it seriously sooner,

00:06:03.500 or, you know, we should have been more prepared sooner.

00:06:07.560 Now, of course, almost every day,

00:06:09.500 I'm going to tell you that's the loser's criticism

00:06:12.600 because everything should have been done sooner.

00:06:15.660 Just all the time.

00:06:17.720 Everything in life, on every situation,

00:06:20.000 on every topic,

00:06:20.980 from the beginning of time to the end of time,

00:06:23.480 if there's something that was good to do,

00:06:26.200 probably you should have done it sooner.

00:06:29.880 It's just universally true.

00:06:32.880 But in this case,

00:06:34.080 the president has a stronger defense,

00:06:39.300 and you'll have to fact-check this for me,

00:06:41.640 but I was just reading an opinion piece

00:06:43.360 in the Washington Post.

00:06:45.880 I forget who wrote it.

00:06:47.200 And the author was saying that

00:06:49.200 no other country prepared better.

00:06:51.600 In other words,

00:06:53.400 we didn't do as much as we could have

00:06:55.280 to prepare for how bad it is,

00:06:57.560 but neither did Canada.

00:07:00.260 Neither did anybody else.

00:07:02.320 So if you're going to judge Trump harshly

00:07:05.300 for, I don't know, what,

00:07:06.800 not listening to the experts early on,

00:07:09.580 not preparing,

00:07:11.180 you're going to have to explain

00:07:12.340 why all...

00:07:14.460 How many countries are there in the world?

00:07:16.440 Several hundred.

00:07:17.680 You're going to have to explain

00:07:18.660 how hundreds of other countries

00:07:20.220 acted no differently.

00:07:22.940 What, everybody knew,

00:07:24.120 but nobody did anything?

00:07:25.520 Or was it only dumb old Trump

00:07:27.280 who was the only one

00:07:28.020 who didn't do anything?

00:07:28.740 No, that didn't happen.

00:07:30.200 Turns out everybody

00:07:31.260 who had the same information as Trump,

00:07:34.120 which was really the leaders

00:07:35.360 of all the big countries,

00:07:38.360 they all...

00:07:39.400 they all had the same,

00:07:41.560 basically, preparation,

00:07:43.680 which is not well enough.

00:07:45.020 Now, somebody's saying

00:07:49.260 South Korea and Singapore

00:07:50.340 prepared the best.

00:07:51.680 I don't know if it was preparation

00:07:53.240 or was it response.

00:07:56.680 They may have responded the best.

00:07:59.660 And I'm going to...

00:08:02.240 You know, I hate to go against

00:08:03.880 the experts.

00:08:06.540 No, I don't.

00:08:07.580 I love to go against the experts.

00:08:09.520 It's just a dangerous and dumb thing

00:08:11.420 to do most of the time.

00:08:12.380 But I'm going to do it right now.

00:08:14.340 Here's my non-expert opinion

00:08:17.340 subject to...

00:08:19.520 I don't know if we'll ever be able

00:08:20.600 to fact-check this,

00:08:21.520 but I'll put it out there anyway.

00:08:23.140 In my opinion,

00:08:24.840 South Korea's success,

00:08:27.360 and somebody said it in Indonesia,

00:08:29.720 in my opinion,

00:08:30.520 the success of, let's say,

00:08:31.960 Japan, South Korea, and Singapore

00:08:33.680 is more mask-wearing

00:08:37.360 of even the people

00:08:39.860 who don't have symptoms.

00:08:40.640 So that's my prediction.

00:08:43.100 My prediction is

00:08:43.960 that when...

00:08:45.600 I don't know if we'll ever

00:08:46.640 be able to determine this,

00:08:47.780 but after it's all said and done,

00:08:49.560 and the people are doing

00:08:51.100 the autopsy,

00:08:51.880 and they say what worked,

00:08:52.880 what didn't work,

00:08:53.980 I think

00:08:55.080 that the countries

00:08:56.820 who had the highest percentage

00:08:58.200 of mask wearers,

00:09:00.080 which was probably

00:09:01.000 only related to supply,

00:09:03.600 I think some of the Asian countries,

00:09:05.200 especially if they already

00:09:06.220 had some pollution problems,

00:09:07.480 which probably doesn't apply

00:09:09.760 as much

00:09:10.380 except in China.

00:09:12.640 But I've got a feeling

00:09:13.500 that the number of masks

00:09:15.080 is going to be the most...

00:09:18.440 the variable that explains

00:09:20.900 the most

00:09:21.520 about why some countries

00:09:22.940 did well,

00:09:23.480 and I don't think

00:09:24.200 it's going to be

00:09:24.700 the testing alone.

00:09:26.440 Testing will be a factor,

00:09:27.680 but I can't wrap my head around

00:09:30.820 how a country

00:09:32.980 that's, you know,

00:09:33.820 this many millions of people,

00:09:36.100 but no matter how many tests

00:09:37.220 they have,

00:09:37.600 it's only, you know,

00:09:39.520 a small percentage.

00:09:41.320 I can't wrap my head around

00:09:43.160 how that's the biggest factor

00:09:45.140 when there are so few tests

00:09:46.360 compared to people,

00:09:47.760 but if 80% of the public going,

00:09:50.700 people who went outside

00:09:51.780 wore a mask,

00:09:53.560 I'm not sure that's true,

00:09:55.260 but I could easily imagine

00:09:57.180 in South Korea,

00:09:58.320 80% of the people going outside

00:10:00.180 had masks pretty quickly.

00:10:01.640 Is that true?

00:10:03.480 I'd need a fact check on that.

00:10:05.420 But that feels like

00:10:06.180 that would be

00:10:06.780 a much more aggressive

00:10:08.660 and direct way

00:10:10.780 to battle it.

00:10:11.760 So we'll just see.

00:10:12.880 That's just my guess.

00:10:14.160 And I also think

00:10:14.820 that when there are more

00:10:16.180 of those masks

00:10:16.940 in the United States,

00:10:18.660 that we'll see a big drop.

00:10:22.140 The daily deaths,

00:10:25.120 I'm having a little trouble

00:10:27.080 understanding the data,

00:10:29.340 but it feels like

00:10:30.480 the number of deaths

00:10:31.280 is starting to

00:10:33.080 not increase as much

00:10:35.500 while the number of infections

00:10:38.260 is still zooming,

00:10:39.940 which is the good news,

00:10:41.260 especially since the FDA approved

00:10:43.300 the use of the hydroxychloroquine,

00:10:46.800 and I think the chloroquine as well,

00:10:48.900 for,

00:10:50.060 it's now approved

00:10:51.680 for people who want to use it

00:10:52.900 for treatment.

00:10:56.520 And I think that

00:10:57.540 that also allowed

00:10:59.180 maybe more manufacturers

00:11:01.000 to make it

00:11:01.680 so there's a supply problem.

00:11:07.540 Here's a question for you.

00:11:10.640 I'm just going to put this out there.

00:11:12.920 I have no idea

00:11:13.980 if this is a good idea

00:11:15.180 because I can't quite under,

00:11:18.000 I can't think through

00:11:19.460 all of the parts,

00:11:20.360 so maybe somebody else can.

00:11:21.320 What would stop the government

00:11:24.320 from saying,

00:11:26.340 again,

00:11:27.140 this is a poorly thought out idea.

00:11:29.040 I think there are problems with it.

00:11:31.000 I'll just put it out there.

00:11:33.140 Suppose the government said

00:11:34.540 that just for the period of the crisis

00:11:37.300 we'll create a second currency

00:11:39.460 and it will be

00:11:40.380 a cryptocurrency

00:11:41.720 that's our own crypto.

00:11:43.340 We'll just make something up.

00:11:45.260 Or they can use one that exists

00:11:46.980 and just endorse it.

00:11:48.080 And they'll just say

00:11:50.600 we're going to

00:11:51.580 assign these crypto coins

00:11:55.100 to everybody

00:11:57.340 below a certain income

00:11:58.520 or even just everybody.

00:12:00.660 And they will expire

00:12:03.200 at the end of three months

00:12:04.920 or six months,

00:12:05.720 whatever.

00:12:06.740 Or they'll be

00:12:07.720 automatically converted to cash.

00:12:10.580 I suppose you could do that too.

00:12:11.760 If you just force the exchange to do it.

00:12:14.300 I don't know if that would work

00:12:15.520 because then it would drive down the value.

00:12:17.200 This is the part

00:12:17.860 I haven't thought through.

00:12:19.940 So the point is

00:12:20.580 could you have a temporary

00:12:21.580 cryptocurrency

00:12:22.620 that would operate

00:12:23.680 at the same time as the dollar?

00:12:25.560 All the people

00:12:26.400 who are doing okay

00:12:27.360 and still have some dollars,

00:12:28.820 they just go ahead

00:12:29.480 and spend them like usual.

00:12:31.060 But if you lost your income

00:12:32.560 and you don't have a dime,

00:12:35.740 you could use the crypto

00:12:36.780 and then the government

00:12:38.540 would sort of guarantee

00:12:39.860 its value on the exchange.

00:12:41.660 In other words,

00:12:42.120 the government could buy

00:12:43.340 and buy and sell the crypto

00:12:45.100 to balance its value.

00:12:48.500 And it feels like

00:12:49.800 the government

00:12:50.260 could just create money

00:12:51.480 out of nothing for a while

00:12:52.640 and then just make it go away

00:12:54.900 by forcing you to convert it.

00:12:56.420 Would that work?

00:12:57.860 And I think it's the

00:12:58.780 winding it down part

00:13:01.280 that doesn't work.

00:13:02.580 If you wound it up,

00:13:03.680 you'd probably have to run it forever

00:13:04.840 or people would lose,

00:13:06.220 somebody would lose.

00:13:07.520 I haven't thought that through,

00:13:08.660 but I feel like

00:13:09.340 there's something there.

00:13:11.140 I just can't hold

00:13:13.240 all the parts in my head

00:13:14.240 enough to know

00:13:14.760 if it would really work.

00:13:17.700 Bill Gates seems to be

00:13:19.300 quite in favor

00:13:20.080 of the longer shutdown,

00:13:22.160 the six to ten weeks,

00:13:23.380 he thinks,

00:13:24.300 which makes me feel

00:13:25.620 a lot better

00:13:27.300 about everything.

00:13:28.940 I'm not going to say

00:13:29.860 that Bill Gates

00:13:30.600 is right about everything

00:13:32.740 all the time.

00:13:33.740 Who is, really?

00:13:35.360 But who's got

00:13:36.140 a better track record?

00:13:37.240 Have you ever seen

00:13:39.340 comparing Bill Gates'

00:13:41.500 oldest predictions

00:13:43.540 about what the world

00:13:44.540 would look like,

00:13:46.000 comparing it to what

00:13:46.820 the world actually looks like?

00:13:48.180 Have you ever seen

00:13:48.800 those lists of things

00:13:49.940 he said would happen

00:13:50.800 and then you compare

00:13:52.060 it to what happened

00:13:52.780 and you look at it

00:13:53.540 and you go,

00:13:54.160 uh, this is the same.

00:13:56.820 Is he from the future?

00:13:58.860 Because he's really good

00:14:00.360 at this guessing

00:14:01.120 what's happening

00:14:01.720 in 20 years business.

00:14:03.820 So, for Bill Gates,

00:14:05.580 who is quite informed

00:14:06.700 in this

00:14:07.300 and quite good

00:14:07.980 at math,

00:14:08.680 as you know,

00:14:09.980 if he thinks

00:14:10.600 six to ten

00:14:11.320 gets us past

00:14:12.260 the hardest part,

00:14:14.080 I'd rather be

00:14:15.420 on his side,

00:14:17.180 you know,

00:14:17.560 all things equal.

00:14:19.660 How would you feel

00:14:20.580 comfortable

00:14:21.100 if your opinion

00:14:22.000 was the opposite

00:14:23.300 of Bill Gates

00:14:24.060 on something

00:14:24.960 he's really looked into?

00:14:26.600 I mean,

00:14:26.920 this isn't something

00:14:27.660 that he's sort of

00:14:28.840 casually,

00:14:29.900 you know,

00:14:30.420 glanced at.

00:14:32.060 Bill Gates

00:14:32.680 has dug into this.

00:14:34.080 You know,

00:14:34.360 in his Bill Gates way,

00:14:35.440 he could go

00:14:35.920 pretty deep

00:14:36.400 on the topic.

00:14:37.620 And if he thinks

00:14:38.380 this is the right play,

00:14:40.460 I feel like

00:14:41.860 I should think

00:14:42.420 that too.

00:14:43.220 The experts

00:14:43.900 seem to be

00:14:44.540 agreed.

00:14:49.600 Here's an

00:14:50.260 interesting thing.

00:14:51.780 This week,

00:14:53.000 and maybe

00:14:53.420 the next week

00:14:54.020 too,

00:14:55.300 I'm watching

00:14:56.560 the people

00:14:57.120 who had been

00:14:57.720 saying it was

00:14:58.260 just the flu

00:14:59.020 and seeing

00:15:00.660 just watching

00:15:02.700 from a,

00:15:03.420 you know,

00:15:03.820 people-watching

00:15:04.780 perspective,

00:15:06.060 watching their

00:15:06.800 voices go

00:15:07.480 from a full

00:15:08.220 scream,

00:15:09.300 it's just the

00:15:10.120 flu,

00:15:10.660 you idiots.

00:15:12.120 Can't you see

00:15:12.780 what we see?

00:15:14.300 It's obviously

00:15:15.000 some kind

00:15:16.180 of a hoax.

00:15:17.440 And,

00:15:17.700 you know,

00:15:18.020 there's a little

00:15:18.860 more data,

00:15:19.540 a little more data,

00:15:20.320 and then,

00:15:20.520 you know,

00:15:20.960 fewer people

00:15:22.200 are saying that,

00:15:23.200 and they're maybe

00:15:24.020 not as loud,

00:15:25.300 and fewer,

00:15:26.320 and they're not

00:15:27.180 quite as loud.

00:15:28.500 And I feel like

00:15:29.460 this week,

00:15:30.720 this might be

00:15:32.040 the week

00:15:32.580 that because

00:15:34.880 the actual

00:15:35.400 hospital impact

00:15:37.160 will be a little

00:15:37.720 more clear,

00:15:38.700 I think those

00:15:39.500 voices are going

00:15:40.240 to start to get

00:15:41.060 really quiet.

00:15:42.640 Now,

00:15:43.100 I would love

00:15:43.600 for them to be

00:15:44.340 right.

00:15:45.180 Wouldn't it be

00:15:45.680 great if the

00:15:47.240 people who say

00:15:47.840 it's overblown

00:15:49.260 and we'll get

00:15:49.880 on top of this

00:15:50.540 in no time,

00:15:51.280 and it's no worse

00:15:51.900 than the flu,

00:15:52.860 wouldn't it be

00:15:53.380 great if they're

00:15:53.860 right?

00:15:55.240 But I think

00:15:55.820 the odds of that

00:15:56.400 are shrinking

00:15:56.860 every day

00:15:57.400 is still

00:15:58.340 possible.

00:15:59.480 You still

00:16:00.000 cannot rule

00:16:00.680 out,

00:16:01.640 you know,

00:16:01.880 if you're

00:16:02.160 being objective,

00:16:03.560 you can't

00:16:04.520 rule out

00:16:05.020 that things

00:16:05.520 go a lot

00:16:05.960 better than

00:16:06.460 the experts

00:16:07.020 thought.

00:16:08.880 My prediction

00:16:09.760 is ridiculously

00:16:11.400 optimistic

00:16:12.320 in that we

00:16:14.300 will save

00:16:15.260 a lot of

00:16:15.680 lives from

00:16:16.860 just being

00:16:17.440 shut down,

00:16:18.180 fewer car

00:16:18.700 accidents,

00:16:19.460 fewer just

00:16:20.020 industrial

00:16:21.120 accidents,

00:16:21.980 fewer ways

00:16:23.380 to die in

00:16:23.860 general,

00:16:24.080 and that

00:16:26.240 even though

00:16:26.660 we will

00:16:27.000 lose

00:16:27.320 thousands,

00:16:27.900 I've

00:16:28.060 already

00:16:28.320 lost

00:16:28.600 thousands

00:16:29.020 to the

00:16:30.000 coronavirus,

00:16:31.380 that I

00:16:31.880 don't think

00:16:32.240 we'll net

00:16:32.700 more than

00:16:33.060 5,000.

00:16:34.760 Now,

00:16:35.040 nobody else

00:16:35.540 agrees with

00:16:36.120 me,

00:16:36.460 so if you're

00:16:36.940 trying to

00:16:37.400 place your

00:16:38.040 own bets,

00:16:39.140 be aware that

00:16:39.880 nobody in the

00:16:40.440 world has my

00:16:41.060 prediction.

00:16:41.560 It's the

00:16:41.860 dumbest,

00:16:42.900 most outlier

00:16:43.800 prediction anybody

00:16:44.880 can make.

00:16:45.640 Because the

00:16:46.000 government is

00:16:46.620 thinking this,

00:16:47.880 even if we do

00:16:49.200 a good job,

00:16:50.920 the government

00:16:51.520 is saying,

00:16:52.000 even if you

00:16:52.400 do a really

00:16:52.860 good job and

00:16:53.580 do everything

00:16:54.000 right,

00:16:54.500 we're talking

00:16:56.220 tens of

00:16:57.000 thousands,

00:16:57.660 hundreds of

00:16:58.140 thousands,

00:16:58.720 it's going to

00:16:59.060 be a big

00:16:59.440 number,

00:16:59.940 say the

00:17:00.280 government,

00:17:01.420 and I'm

00:17:02.000 going full

00:17:02.740 contrarian on

00:17:03.600 that.

00:17:04.580 But I'm

00:17:05.380 not saying

00:17:06.080 that they

00:17:07.740 were wrong

00:17:08.240 about the

00:17:08.680 potential problem.

00:17:10.020 I'm saying

00:17:10.500 that the

00:17:10.900 experts were

00:17:11.460 largely right

00:17:12.320 about how

00:17:13.600 biggish it

00:17:14.220 was,

00:17:14.820 you know,

00:17:15.240 in an

00:17:15.660 order of

00:17:16.320 magnitude

00:17:16.680 way,

00:17:17.080 but that

00:17:18.800 will be

00:17:19.700 more

00:17:19.960 successful

00:17:20.480 than people

00:17:21.080 imagined,

00:17:22.600 so that

00:17:23.180 our

00:17:23.600 innovation

00:17:24.380 will make

00:17:24.840 a big

00:17:25.060 difference.

00:17:26.140 Now,

00:17:26.440 I think

00:17:26.800 that this

00:17:27.260 is interesting,

00:17:29.640 but the

00:17:30.080 prospect of

00:17:32.120 the hydroxychloroquine

00:17:33.680 working well

00:17:34.720 enough to

00:17:35.920 at least keep

00:17:36.700 people from

00:17:37.240 hospitalization,

00:17:38.180 which is the

00:17:38.600 whole game,

00:17:39.940 to me the

00:17:40.480 entire game

00:17:41.440 comes down

00:17:42.720 to does

00:17:43.320 the hydroxychloroquine,

00:17:45.200 if given

00:17:45.760 early,

00:17:46.140 and do

00:17:47.040 we have

00:17:47.340 enough

00:17:47.540 supply,

00:17:48.040 that's a

00:17:48.320 big question,

00:17:49.140 if given

00:17:49.580 early,

00:17:50.580 does it

00:17:51.160 keep people

00:17:51.700 from being

00:17:52.080 hospitalized?

00:17:55.300 Anecdotally,

00:17:55.940 that looks

00:17:56.320 to be the

00:17:56.760 case,

00:17:57.920 and even

00:17:58.400 some

00:17:58.900 large-ish

00:18:00.260 small

00:18:00.860 studies,

00:18:01.700 they're

00:18:02.000 small

00:18:02.300 studies,

00:18:02.860 but they're

00:18:03.880 not tiny-tiny,

00:18:05.760 seem to

00:18:06.580 indicate it

00:18:07.040 does.

00:18:08.560 But I

00:18:08.980 don't know

00:18:09.260 if you

00:18:09.520 can trust

00:18:10.020 anything yet.

00:18:11.980 You know,

00:18:12.180 I don't

00:18:12.680 trust,

00:18:13.840 so here's

00:18:14.680 my current

00:18:15.480 thinking,

00:18:15.940 I don't

00:18:16.220 trust any

00:18:17.060 small study

00:18:18.700 in this

00:18:19.860 country or

00:18:20.520 any other.

00:18:21.620 I don't

00:18:21.980 trust it.

00:18:23.280 And I

00:18:23.840 don't think

00:18:24.180 that we

00:18:24.440 can,

00:18:25.120 because even

00:18:25.660 in good

00:18:26.060 times when

00:18:26.560 you've got

00:18:26.840 plenty of

00:18:27.240 time to

00:18:27.620 do peer

00:18:28.040 review and

00:18:28.480 everything else,

00:18:29.800 even in

00:18:30.480 good times,

00:18:31.020 half of the

00:18:31.480 things that

00:18:31.900 get peer

00:18:32.320 reviewed and

00:18:32.880 accepted turn

00:18:33.840 out to be

00:18:34.260 false.

00:18:35.500 And that's

00:18:35.880 when you've

00:18:36.160 got plenty of

00:18:36.720 time and

00:18:37.240 everybody's

00:18:37.660 doing the

00:18:38.060 best,

00:18:38.560 slowest,

00:18:39.220 most careful

00:18:39.700 work.

00:18:40.140 how good

00:18:41.960 are the

00:18:42.240 studies that

00:18:42.840 people are

00:18:43.280 slapping

00:18:43.700 together in

00:18:44.400 an emergency?

00:18:46.020 In theory,

00:18:47.160 the quality of

00:18:47.840 those studies

00:18:48.280 should be the

00:18:48.840 lowest of

00:18:49.580 any studies

00:18:50.700 you've ever

00:18:51.160 seen,

00:18:52.020 because they're

00:18:52.980 so fast and

00:18:53.800 they're smallish

00:18:54.460 and things are

00:18:55.660 imperfect because

00:18:56.440 it's a crisis.

00:18:57.740 But that doesn't

00:18:58.540 mean it's wrong.

00:19:00.560 And what I'm

00:19:01.080 looking at is,

00:19:02.260 until I find

00:19:03.120 any doctor who

00:19:04.160 is working on

00:19:04.860 this problem

00:19:05.460 who would

00:19:06.660 not personally

00:19:07.420 take it,

00:19:08.900 I'm going to

00:19:10.000 think there's

00:19:10.400 something there.

00:19:11.900 We have not,

00:19:13.300 correct me if I'm

00:19:14.240 wrong,

00:19:14.680 have you seen

00:19:15.220 one doctor,

00:19:16.240 even one,

00:19:17.580 literally just

00:19:18.380 one,

00:19:19.100 I'll say one

00:19:19.840 American doctor

00:19:20.960 who's actually

00:19:22.480 working with

00:19:23.280 these patients

00:19:24.000 who would

00:19:25.300 advise against

00:19:26.400 taking that

00:19:27.360 drug?

00:19:28.760 Is there even

00:19:29.600 one?

00:19:30.880 If there's one,

00:19:32.120 I'm going to

00:19:32.720 say to myself,

00:19:33.780 well, maybe

00:19:34.280 there's something

00:19:34.700 there.

00:19:35.460 I used to

00:19:36.500 have a phone

00:19:36.980 here.

00:19:37.300 I was going

00:19:37.560 to check

00:19:38.840 the stock

00:19:39.300 market,

00:19:39.900 but I guess

00:19:40.340 I can put

00:19:40.740 my phone

00:19:41.100 somewhere else.

00:19:42.320 All right.

00:19:43.960 So I think

00:19:44.500 that's going

00:19:47.000 to be good.

00:19:48.000 There's an

00:19:48.600 article that

00:19:49.080 says Germany

00:19:49.580 is considering,

00:19:51.000 and I think

00:19:51.420 considering is

00:19:52.160 the key word

00:19:52.680 here because

00:19:53.300 it's not like

00:19:54.160 this is imminent,

00:19:55.560 but they're

00:19:55.900 considering issuing

00:19:56.680 thousands or

00:19:58.040 giving people

00:20:00.260 immunity

00:20:00.860 certificates.

00:20:02.500 So you would

00:20:03.220 get some kind

00:20:03.760 of a certificate

00:20:04.460 that said you

00:20:05.400 had already

00:20:05.780 had it,

00:20:06.660 you're over

00:20:07.160 it,

00:20:07.400 you have

00:20:07.680 immunity,

00:20:08.740 so you're

00:20:09.260 allowed to

00:20:09.640 go back to

00:20:10.120 work and

00:20:10.580 mingle,

00:20:11.040 I guess.

00:20:12.100 Now, I was

00:20:12.640 trying to think,

00:20:13.660 and again,

00:20:14.340 this is not

00:20:14.880 imminent,

00:20:15.500 it's just

00:20:15.880 something they're

00:20:16.420 considering in

00:20:17.120 Germany,

00:20:17.800 but I thought

00:20:18.460 to myself,

00:20:19.480 how would you

00:20:20.060 execute that?

00:20:22.060 Because if you

00:20:22.840 say, okay,

00:20:23.660 let's say 10%

00:20:24.860 of the public

00:20:25.320 can go back

00:20:25.880 to work,

00:20:27.120 how would the

00:20:27.700 authorities know

00:20:28.700 if they saw

00:20:30.180 people on the

00:20:30.820 streets or working

00:20:31.600 in the shops

00:20:32.200 or whatever,

00:20:32.660 how would they

00:20:33.020 know that was

00:20:33.560 the right 10%?

00:20:35.060 Because people

00:20:35.800 would massively

00:20:36.520 cheat.

00:20:37.940 They'd say,

00:20:38.560 I'm not immune,

00:20:42.040 but nobody's

00:20:42.780 going to know,

00:20:43.540 I'm going to

00:20:43.860 go back to

00:20:44.360 work.

00:20:45.540 And the

00:20:46.380 police couldn't

00:20:46.920 stop and

00:20:47.500 check everybody,

00:20:48.800 right?

00:20:49.220 I mean,

00:20:49.540 they could

00:20:50.260 check some

00:20:51.440 people,

00:20:52.140 but they're

00:20:52.680 not going to

00:20:53.020 say,

00:20:53.400 show us

00:20:54.260 your papers,

00:20:55.540 show us

00:20:56.440 your papers,

00:20:57.180 do you,

00:20:58.260 are you allowed

00:20:58.980 your papers?

00:21:01.020 So that

00:21:01.340 doesn't feel

00:21:01.820 like that

00:21:02.160 would work,

00:21:03.220 just too

00:21:03.640 many people

00:21:04.100 involved.

00:21:05.280 And then I

00:21:05.620 thought,

00:21:05.920 well,

00:21:06.220 suppose the

00:21:06.820 people who

00:21:07.360 have the

00:21:08.820 immunity had

00:21:09.500 to wear a

00:21:10.160 lanyard,

00:21:11.400 and it's

00:21:11.640 just got

00:21:11.960 the certificates

00:21:12.880 right in the

00:21:13.520 lanyards,

00:21:14.060 like,

00:21:14.260 I passed.

00:21:15.400 And then I

00:21:15.760 thought,

00:21:16.060 well,

00:21:16.260 that would

00:21:16.520 take five

00:21:17.860 seconds for

00:21:18.600 people to

00:21:19.180 3D print

00:21:20.100 those things

00:21:20.940 or photocopy

00:21:22.740 the fakes,

00:21:23.660 and you

00:21:23.920 couldn't

00:21:24.160 really,

00:21:25.700 how could

00:21:26.360 you tell?

00:21:26.740 So here's

00:21:29.020 my suggestion.

00:21:30.500 My suggestion

00:21:31.280 is this,

00:21:31.800 is if the

00:21:32.260 government

00:21:32.620 clears you,

00:21:34.100 and maybe

00:21:34.500 a doctor

00:21:34.940 has to do

00:21:35.480 it,

00:21:35.980 the doctor

00:21:36.520 goes into

00:21:37.060 his database

00:21:37.540 and plugs

00:21:38.320 your social

00:21:38.880 security number

00:21:39.700 into it.

00:21:40.140 Now you're

00:21:40.540 registered

00:21:40.980 as somebody

00:21:42.180 that a

00:21:42.640 doctor has

00:21:43.680 certified,

00:21:44.300 you can't

00:21:44.700 do it

00:21:44.880 yourself,

00:21:45.780 a doctor

00:21:46.380 has certified

00:21:46.960 that you

00:21:47.280 have immunity,

00:21:48.560 so you're

00:21:48.920 in the

00:21:49.440 national

00:21:50.240 database.

00:21:51.420 Then,

00:21:52.020 here's my

00:21:52.460 idea,

00:21:53.340 you build

00:21:53.740 an app

00:21:54.280 so that

00:21:55.720 maybe only

00:21:56.480 the police

00:21:57.060 can tell.

00:21:58.380 So let's

00:21:58.860 say in

00:21:59.160 the beginning

00:21:59.600 it's just

00:22:00.560 something law

00:22:01.120 enforcement

00:22:01.500 can tell,

00:22:02.540 and they

00:22:02.920 can track

00:22:03.440 everybody's

00:22:05.240 phone,

00:22:06.160 and they

00:22:06.440 can see

00:22:06.940 on the

00:22:07.580 map all

00:22:08.000 the dots,

00:22:08.960 and the

00:22:09.300 dots read

00:22:09.760 either green

00:22:10.200 or red.

00:22:11.500 So if the

00:22:12.220 police go

00:22:12.780 into a

00:22:14.140 neighborhood

00:22:15.000 that's opened

00:22:15.620 up and the

00:22:16.160 stores are

00:22:16.600 open,

00:22:17.320 they can

00:22:17.660 pull out

00:22:18.020 their app

00:22:18.480 and they

00:22:18.900 can say,

00:22:19.400 okay,

00:22:19.780 green,

00:22:20.160 green,

00:22:20.480 green,

00:22:20.740 green,

00:22:20.920 whoop,

00:22:22.100 there's a

00:22:22.600 red,

00:22:23.960 and they

00:22:24.300 can just

00:22:24.620 say,

00:22:24.920 the red's

00:22:25.560 20 feet

00:22:26.100 over there

00:22:26.580 and then

00:22:26.920 it can

00:22:27.120 walk over

00:22:27.640 and say,

00:22:28.680 or even

00:22:29.160 click on

00:22:29.700 it because

00:22:30.120 the police

00:22:30.580 might have

00:22:31.020 the secret

00:22:31.420 database,

00:22:32.380 you know,

00:22:32.600 all your

00:22:33.020 privacy's

00:22:33.580 gone,

00:22:34.300 and just

00:22:34.520 click on

00:22:34.920 it and

00:22:35.080 say,

00:22:35.880 looks like

00:22:36.760 Bob,

00:22:37.320 20 feet

00:22:37.840 over there,

00:22:38.600 there's a

00:22:38.800 red,

00:22:39.880 Bob,

00:22:40.460 Bob,

00:22:41.600 Bob,

00:22:42.340 come here

00:22:43.000 for a

00:22:43.300 minute,

00:22:44.000 Bob,

00:22:44.400 you do

00:22:44.640 not have

00:22:45.040 the

00:22:45.160 immunity

00:22:45.480 certificate,

00:22:46.800 go home

00:22:47.320 immediately.

00:22:48.780 So,

00:22:49.400 could you

00:22:50.160 build an

00:22:50.540 app in

00:22:51.080 which at

00:22:51.720 least law

00:22:52.160 enforcement

00:22:52.560 could walk

00:22:53.140 through a

00:22:53.660 crowded

00:22:53.980 street

00:22:54.500 and see

00:22:55.540 on the

00:22:55.820 map

00:22:56.140 if there's

00:22:56.920 a cheater?

00:22:57.900 I think

00:22:58.620 so.

00:22:59.540 Now,

00:22:59.780 you'd have

00:23:00.000 to give

00:23:00.280 up immense

00:23:01.520 amounts of

00:23:01.960 privacy to

00:23:02.580 do it,

00:23:03.220 but we're

00:23:03.720 certainly at

00:23:04.240 that point

00:23:04.640 where that

00:23:04.960 could happen.

00:23:05.360 of course

00:23:09.460 the brute

00:23:11.760 force way

00:23:12.480 to do

00:23:12.720 that is

00:23:13.080 with facial

00:23:15.080 recognition,

00:23:16.100 right?

00:23:17.140 But people

00:23:17.880 are going

00:23:18.100 to be

00:23:18.240 wearing

00:23:18.480 masks.

00:23:19.900 So,

00:23:20.200 what do

00:23:20.340 you do

00:23:20.560 with facial

00:23:21.040 recognition

00:23:21.600 if so

00:23:22.780 many people

00:23:23.220 are wearing

00:23:23.540 face masks?

00:23:24.860 So,

00:23:25.120 you probably

00:23:25.400 have to do

00:23:25.800 it with a

00:23:26.120 database

00:23:26.380 situation.

00:23:29.820 A person

00:23:30.640 I don't

00:23:31.000 know on

00:23:31.740 Twitter

00:23:32.320 asked this

00:23:33.180 question,

00:23:34.480 are we

00:23:34.800 going to

00:23:34.980 have a

00:23:35.260 civil war?

00:23:36.600 Because this

00:23:37.360 extra lockdown

00:23:38.160 is going to

00:23:38.580 make people

00:23:39.060 pretty antsy.

00:23:40.460 And so,

00:23:40.980 a person

00:23:41.820 reasonably

00:23:42.380 asks,

00:23:43.340 is this

00:23:43.700 going to

00:23:43.920 lead to

00:23:44.260 civil war?

00:23:45.620 Now,

00:23:46.020 there are

00:23:46.280 some things

00:23:46.780 that are

00:23:47.060 hard to

00:23:47.520 predict,

00:23:48.600 and there's

00:23:49.020 some things

00:23:49.460 which are

00:23:49.820 not.

00:23:50.860 This is

00:23:51.560 solidly in

00:23:52.840 the category

00:23:53.440 of not

00:23:54.860 hard to

00:23:55.320 predict.

00:23:56.120 So,

00:23:56.580 let me

00:23:56.740 tell you

00:23:57.080 exactly

00:23:57.620 what's

00:23:57.980 going to

00:23:58.200 happen

00:23:58.520 vis-a-vis

00:23:59.820 the question

00:24:00.420 of a

00:24:00.880 civil war.

00:24:02.360 There will

00:24:02.840 not be

00:24:03.300 one.

00:24:03.600 not even

00:24:05.460 a little

00:24:05.820 chance.

00:24:07.120 Nothing

00:24:07.380 could be

00:24:07.800 closer to

00:24:08.400 zero or

00:24:09.200 more zero

00:24:10.200 than the

00:24:11.240 odds of

00:24:11.820 a civil

00:24:12.280 war,

00:24:13.520 let's say

00:24:14.060 between now

00:24:14.780 and the

00:24:15.480 end of

00:24:15.780 June,

00:24:16.340 just to

00:24:16.760 put a

00:24:17.680 period on

00:24:18.420 it.

00:24:18.920 The odds

00:24:19.520 of a

00:24:19.820 civil war

00:24:20.600 in the

00:24:21.640 United

00:24:21.880 States

00:24:22.340 are the

00:24:23.180 lowest

00:24:23.640 they've

00:24:24.120 ever been

00:24:24.800 right now.

00:24:26.200 They've

00:24:26.400 never been

00:24:27.100 lower.

00:24:28.060 Here's why.

00:24:29.140 In order to

00:24:29.680 have a

00:24:30.000 civil war,

00:24:30.640 you have to

00:24:30.960 have an

00:24:31.220 enemy that's

00:24:31.780 in your

00:24:32.120 own

00:24:32.300 country.

00:24:33.360 Somebody

00:24:33.760 in your

00:24:34.160 country

00:24:34.440 you're

00:24:34.680 fighting

00:24:34.920 against.

00:24:36.140 Who's

00:24:36.620 that?

00:24:38.160 Who's

00:24:38.640 the enemy?

00:24:39.560 No,

00:24:39.780 the enemy

00:24:40.040 is the

00:24:40.340 virus.

00:24:40.980 We're

00:24:41.100 on the

00:24:41.420 same side.

00:24:43.360 You

00:24:43.600 don't get

00:24:44.140 a civil

00:24:44.620 war when

00:24:45.680 your entire

00:24:46.520 civil community

00:24:47.900 is fighting

00:24:48.680 the same

00:24:49.140 external,

00:24:50.220 in this

00:24:50.560 case it

00:24:50.920 got into

00:24:51.260 the country,

00:24:51.840 but it's

00:24:53.200 fighting a

00:24:53.660 third party.

00:24:54.600 That's the

00:24:55.140 most unifying

00:24:55.880 thing that

00:24:56.360 could ever

00:24:56.660 happen to

00:24:57.060 a country.

00:24:58.080 So we

00:24:58.420 are in

00:24:58.940 whatever is

00:24:59.520 the most

00:25:00.540 opposite of

00:25:01.280 the civil

00:25:01.680 war is

00:25:03.140 what we're

00:25:03.460 experiencing

00:25:03.940 now.

00:25:04.400 We're

00:25:04.660 experiencing

00:25:05.120 the most

00:25:05.800 unity.

00:25:06.880 You can

00:25:07.180 even see

00:25:07.540 it in

00:25:07.780 the news.

00:25:08.480 Even the

00:25:08.940 news is

00:25:09.340 going easy

00:25:09.820 on the

00:25:10.080 president.

00:25:11.800 This is

00:25:12.500 the most

00:25:12.840 unity this

00:25:13.760 country has

00:25:14.240 had in

00:25:14.860 my lifetime

00:25:15.400 by far.

00:25:17.140 There's

00:25:17.440 nothing even

00:25:18.140 close.

00:25:18.680 Well,

00:25:19.460 9-11 maybe.

00:25:20.480 9-11 was

00:25:21.260 one of those

00:25:22.780 points in

00:25:23.240 time.

00:25:23.880 What were

00:25:24.180 the odds

00:25:24.660 that there

00:25:25.000 would be

00:25:25.240 a civil

00:25:25.700 war within

00:25:27.300 a month

00:25:27.800 of 9-11

00:25:28.460 happening?

00:25:29.180 Zero.

00:25:29.620 Zero.

00:25:32.180 The odds

00:25:32.920 of a civil

00:25:33.400 war when

00:25:34.080 this country

00:25:34.980 is threatened

00:25:35.580 by any

00:25:36.040 kind of

00:25:36.380 external

00:25:37.920 force,

00:25:39.480 the odds

00:25:40.000 of a civil

00:25:40.380 war just

00:25:40.740 goes to

00:25:41.060 zero.

00:25:41.720 And that

00:25:41.920 would be

00:25:42.160 true of

00:25:42.440 every country,

00:25:43.820 really.

00:25:44.260 Countries

00:25:44.620 bind together.

00:25:46.000 So, if

00:25:46.520 you're going

00:25:46.740 to make a

00:25:47.060 list of

00:25:47.380 things you

00:25:47.760 should worry

00:25:48.280 about,

00:25:49.760 the odds

00:25:50.320 of a civil

00:25:50.760 war, that

00:25:51.700 one's just

00:25:52.240 zero.

00:25:53.200 We've never

00:25:53.740 been further

00:25:54.240 from that.

00:25:55.520 If you're

00:25:55.880 worried that,

00:25:56.740 and the

00:25:57.020 person that I

00:25:58.540 commented to

00:25:59.160 said, well,

00:26:00.260 there's going

00:26:00.520 to be

00:26:00.640 looting,

00:26:01.960 well, it's

00:26:04.080 kind of hard

00:26:04.560 to loot

00:26:05.080 right now,

00:26:06.160 because unless

00:26:07.420 people went

00:26:07.940 out en masse,

00:26:10.140 looting doesn't

00:26:10.940 work.

00:26:11.560 You can't be

00:26:12.240 the one

00:26:12.740 looter.

00:26:13.940 You can't be

00:26:14.480 like, well,

00:26:15.480 nobody else is

00:26:16.260 looting, but

00:26:16.860 I'm going to

00:26:17.720 do some

00:26:18.060 looting.

00:26:18.820 Those stores

00:26:19.540 are all

00:26:19.840 empty.

00:26:20.140 I think I'll

00:26:20.500 break a

00:26:20.840 window.

00:26:21.680 Because if

00:26:22.260 you're the

00:26:23.220 only one,

00:26:24.680 you're kind

00:26:25.180 of noticeable.

00:26:26.960 You're

00:26:27.320 odds of being

00:26:27.800 caught are

00:26:28.200 100%.

00:26:28.900 So you

00:26:30.200 can't loot

00:26:30.960 one-on-one,

00:26:32.620 and I don't

00:26:33.040 think we'll

00:26:33.400 have crowds

00:26:34.040 because people

00:26:34.700 are still

00:26:35.220 well-warned

00:26:36.920 enough that

00:26:37.500 nobody's going

00:26:38.060 to really

00:26:38.320 form a

00:26:38.800 looting

00:26:39.120 crowd.

00:26:40.560 It would

00:26:41.120 be a bad

00:26:41.560 strategy.

00:26:42.300 You would

00:26:42.500 just be

00:26:42.800 giving each

00:26:43.240 other

00:26:43.500 viruses.

00:26:46.300 And then

00:26:46.640 how many

00:26:47.280 burglaries or

00:26:48.080 home invasions

00:26:48.780 are we going

00:26:49.140 to have when

00:26:49.520 everybody's

00:26:49.960 staying home?

00:26:51.580 Zero.

00:26:53.140 Well,

00:26:53.400 probably not

00:26:53.920 zero, but

00:26:54.520 not many

00:26:55.460 people are

00:26:55.820 going to have

00:26:56.100 their homes

00:26:56.740 burgled when

00:26:58.240 they're home

00:26:58.640 all day.

00:27:00.500 So burglars

00:27:01.380 are going to

00:27:01.700 be down,

00:27:02.300 murders are

00:27:02.760 going to be

00:27:03.000 down, a

00:27:04.840 lot of

00:27:05.200 crimes are

00:27:05.660 going to

00:27:05.700 be down,

00:27:06.240 as well as

00:27:06.780 accidents.

00:27:08.060 So no,

00:27:08.700 no risk of

00:27:09.460 a civil war.

00:27:11.420 And I

00:27:11.920 think also

00:27:12.400 no risk of

00:27:13.440 not having

00:27:14.880 food.

00:27:16.380 Because if

00:27:17.220 you went to

00:27:17.820 rob your

00:27:18.640 neighbor,

00:27:20.080 let me just

00:27:21.080 give you the

00:27:21.460 scenario.

00:27:22.260 Let's say

00:27:22.620 you're out of

00:27:23.020 food and you

00:27:23.580 have a gun.

00:27:24.080 And you

00:27:25.300 go to your

00:27:25.660 neighbor and

00:27:26.520 you say,

00:27:27.380 I've got a

00:27:27.960 gun, give

00:27:29.180 me all your

00:27:29.600 food.

00:27:30.600 What is your

00:27:31.200 neighbor going

00:27:31.680 to say in

00:27:33.380 the middle of

00:27:33.820 this crisis?

00:27:35.040 I think your

00:27:35.740 neighbor is

00:27:36.140 going to say,

00:27:36.840 what's the

00:27:38.260 gun for?

00:27:38.820 Here's some

00:27:39.380 food.

00:27:41.400 If you need

00:27:42.040 some more

00:27:42.400 food, I'll

00:27:43.540 make a run to

00:27:44.080 the grocery

00:27:44.440 store for you

00:27:45.100 because Safeway

00:27:45.740 has plenty of

00:27:46.320 food.

00:27:47.380 Nobody's running

00:27:47.980 out of food.

00:27:49.180 You're running

00:27:49.640 out of money

00:27:50.080 maybe.

00:27:51.100 And if you

00:27:51.600 need me to

00:27:53.040 help you with

00:27:53.760 some food

00:27:55.360 until the

00:27:56.000 government

00:27:56.340 check comes

00:27:57.000 in or

00:27:57.200 whatever,

00:27:57.880 sure, no

00:27:58.880 problem.

00:28:00.200 No problem.

00:28:02.620 So nobody's

00:28:03.460 going to rob

00:28:04.180 people for

00:28:04.720 food simply

00:28:06.100 because there

00:28:06.720 will be plenty

00:28:07.180 of people

00:28:07.540 saying, I'll

00:28:08.520 give you

00:28:08.780 food.

00:28:09.220 You don't

00:28:09.440 have to rob

00:28:09.880 anybody.

00:28:13.120 All right.

00:28:16.420 Let's see.

00:28:17.280 So the

00:28:23.180 range of

00:28:23.740 people who

00:28:24.240 might die

00:28:24.980 in the

00:28:26.200 United States

00:28:26.780 according to

00:28:27.280 experts is

00:28:28.900 everything from

00:28:29.920 maybe 100,000

00:28:32.540 if you did

00:28:33.100 everything right,

00:28:34.340 200,000 to

00:28:36.240 2.2 million.

00:28:37.700 And I guess

00:28:38.100 the 2.2 million

00:28:39.260 is what got

00:28:40.480 Trump to say,

00:28:42.440 yeah, let's

00:28:42.720 close everything.

00:28:44.120 Now, as I've

00:28:44.660 said before,

00:28:45.240 if you're

00:28:46.200 playing it

00:28:46.620 politically and

00:28:47.600 you just, let's

00:28:48.680 say the only

00:28:49.120 thing you were

00:28:49.540 interested in is

00:28:50.500 getting re-elected.

00:28:51.780 I don't think

00:28:52.280 that's the case.

00:28:53.680 I've said this

00:28:54.420 before, but no

00:28:56.200 matter who you

00:28:56.840 are, be you

00:28:58.440 Democrat or

00:28:59.080 Republican, by

00:28:59.800 the time you

00:29:00.280 become president,

00:29:02.140 I think there's

00:29:02.780 something about

00:29:03.300 the process and

00:29:05.240 something about

00:29:05.860 the office that

00:29:07.480 really does

00:29:08.080 guarantee that

00:29:09.680 your interests are

00:29:10.560 for the benefit

00:29:11.660 of the public,

00:29:12.620 and you're being

00:29:13.080 watched so

00:29:13.600 carefully.

00:29:14.800 So I think

00:29:15.200 all presidents

00:29:15.980 genuinely want

00:29:17.160 what's best for

00:29:17.760 the country, but

00:29:18.420 they also want

00:29:19.060 to get re-elected.

00:29:20.220 The best thing

00:29:20.780 for getting

00:29:21.560 re-elected is

00:29:23.680 to not make

00:29:24.360 the mistake of

00:29:25.040 doing too

00:29:25.620 little.

00:29:27.220 So you can

00:29:28.060 see this in a

00:29:28.720 number of ways.

00:29:29.740 So if the

00:29:30.440 relief package

00:29:31.460 had been $1

00:29:32.140 trillion after

00:29:33.740 somebody had

00:29:34.640 suggested it

00:29:35.420 should be $2

00:29:36.020 trillion, that

00:29:37.020 would have been

00:29:37.360 just a mistake

00:29:38.200 politically.

00:29:40.140 I don't know

00:29:40.660 what it would

00:29:40.960 be economically,

00:29:42.160 but politically

00:29:42.640 it would clearly

00:29:43.240 be a mistake,

00:29:43.960 psychologically

00:29:44.460 probably a

00:29:45.300 mistake, because

00:29:46.240 you don't get

00:29:46.860 penalized for

00:29:48.460 being too

00:29:49.560 decisive or

00:29:50.440 too aggressive

00:29:51.080 in an emergency.

00:29:52.860 You can get

00:29:54.140 penalized for

00:29:54.840 not doing

00:29:55.240 enough or

00:29:55.680 being weak.

00:29:56.820 So every time

00:29:57.740 the president

00:29:58.260 has been

00:29:58.840 presented with

00:29:59.780 a tough

00:30:00.420 option, the

00:30:01.840 one that makes

00:30:02.420 him look like

00:30:02.840 a strong leader

00:30:03.580 versus the

00:30:05.180 weaker version,

00:30:06.760 he has

00:30:07.360 consistently picked

00:30:08.440 correctly the

00:30:10.000 strong option.

00:30:10.740 now the

00:30:12.120 strong option

00:30:12.840 at the

00:30:13.680 moment, most

00:30:14.760 people would

00:30:15.180 agree that the

00:30:15.820 strongest option

00:30:16.680 is to close

00:30:17.300 down.

00:30:18.240 That's different

00:30:18.800 from the right

00:30:19.500 option, the

00:30:20.200 optimal option,

00:30:21.040 who knows, I'm

00:30:21.880 not smart enough

00:30:22.500 to know.

00:30:23.440 But if you're

00:30:23.900 just trying to

00:30:25.000 judge it on

00:30:26.200 the strength

00:30:27.180 of it, whatever

00:30:29.020 that means to

00:30:29.760 each of us, we

00:30:30.500 can interpret that

00:30:31.200 a little bit

00:30:31.600 differently.

00:30:32.520 But closing the

00:30:33.260 whole economy at

00:30:34.220 the risk of the

00:30:35.480 president losing

00:30:36.420 the crown jewel of

00:30:38.320 the thing he cares

00:30:39.120 most about in

00:30:40.180 terms of his

00:30:40.760 accomplishment, which

00:30:42.360 is the economy.

00:30:43.640 So you're

00:30:44.020 watching the

00:30:44.400 president who

00:30:44.880 cares more about

00:30:45.700 the economy than

00:30:46.780 maybe anybody.

00:30:50.080 I mean, we

00:30:50.520 care for our

00:30:51.200 own individual

00:30:52.640 outcomes, but I

00:30:55.220 guarantee you this

00:30:56.080 president really,

00:30:57.940 really cares about

00:30:58.740 the economy for

00:30:59.600 all the right

00:31:00.100 reasons and all

00:31:01.000 the personal

00:31:01.840 reasons.

00:31:03.140 And don't

00:31:03.680 forget, the

00:31:06.120 Trump of

00:31:06.700 business could

00:31:08.720 be bankrupt at

00:31:09.540 the end of

00:31:09.860 this.

00:31:11.060 Now, Trump

00:31:11.980 has said they've

00:31:12.520 got a good

00:31:12.900 balance sheet, but

00:31:14.380 you need a

00:31:15.020 really good

00:31:15.640 balance sheet to

00:31:17.020 get through no

00:31:18.440 customers for three

00:31:19.560 months or whatever

00:31:20.340 it's going to be for

00:31:21.100 the Trump

00:31:21.480 properties.

00:31:22.900 So when you

00:31:24.560 watch a leader who

00:31:25.780 is making a

00:31:26.600 decision that, in

00:31:27.880 my opinion, will

00:31:28.680 bankrupt his own

00:31:30.620 fortune, Trump

00:31:32.960 might actually be

00:31:33.900 broke by the time

00:31:35.100 he gets out of

00:31:35.660 office.

00:31:36.800 And that has

00:31:37.420 less to do with

00:31:39.040 the whole economy

00:31:39.880 than it has to

00:31:41.320 do with the fact

00:31:41.840 that he's in

00:31:42.420 that leisure

00:31:44.280 industry.

00:31:45.520 And the leisure

00:31:46.120 industry is just

00:31:47.040 going to be the

00:31:48.080 hardest hit.

00:31:49.440 So watching a

00:31:50.520 leader make a

00:31:51.780 decision that, in

00:31:53.040 my opinion, might

00:31:53.840 bankrupt his own

00:31:55.460 company and his

00:31:56.400 own family.

00:31:57.640 It might.

00:31:58.200 I don't know if

00:31:58.720 it will.

00:31:59.460 But I would say

00:32:00.040 it's got to be in

00:32:01.160 that 50-50 risk

00:32:03.320 just because everybody

00:32:04.380 in that industry

00:32:05.100 has got to be at

00:32:06.000 least a 50-50 risk

00:32:07.360 of bankruptcy at

00:32:08.160 this point.

00:32:10.840 So that's a

00:32:11.640 strong decision.

00:32:13.020 Strong decisions

00:32:13.740 can be right and

00:32:14.660 they can be wrong,

00:32:15.520 but they almost

00:32:16.180 never are politically

00:32:17.220 wrong, so long as

00:32:18.860 they're also

00:32:19.320 compatible with what

00:32:20.340 the experts are

00:32:20.980 saying.

00:32:21.660 So Trump is so

00:32:22.600 politically right

00:32:24.860 on this, and

00:32:26.720 also, according to

00:32:27.960 the experts, right,

00:32:29.160 he's about as

00:32:29.840 right as you can

00:32:30.540 get.

00:32:30.900 And you could

00:32:32.300 argue he should

00:32:32.920 have been there

00:32:33.320 sooner, you know,

00:32:34.220 what was he

00:32:34.640 talking about

00:32:35.100 yesterday?

00:32:36.180 Those are good

00:32:37.120 conversations, but

00:32:38.100 at the moment, he's

00:32:40.040 as right as you

00:32:40.640 can get.

00:32:44.680 All right.

00:32:45.900 So I guess Joe

00:32:47.760 Biden appeared on

00:32:48.740 Meet the Depressed,

00:32:50.340 and he was not

00:32:53.080 asked about the

00:32:54.060 accusations against

00:32:55.180 him by a woman

00:32:58.800 who used to work

00:32:59.400 with him on his

00:33:00.660 staff, on his

00:33:02.620 staff, if you know

00:33:03.740 what I mean.

00:33:04.800 She was working on

00:33:05.560 his staff during

00:33:07.320 the 90s, and she

00:33:09.660 has very credible

00:33:11.740 sounding claims

00:33:12.860 that he me-toed

00:33:14.120 her pretty hard,

00:33:16.600 which is not

00:33:18.020 funny.

00:33:18.900 Nothing funny

00:33:19.640 about that.

00:33:21.460 And it sounds

00:33:22.240 credible.

00:33:24.140 But, you know,

00:33:24.600 even when she

00:33:25.120 tells the

00:33:25.600 story, how

00:33:29.060 do I not get

00:33:29.660 myself in

00:33:30.440 further trouble?

00:33:31.380 But, what the

00:33:32.400 heck, I'll get

00:33:32.960 myself in further

00:33:33.680 trouble.

00:33:34.480 Even as she

00:33:35.140 tells the story,

00:33:35.980 the way she

00:33:36.460 tells it, and

00:33:37.120 she's the, you

00:33:38.440 know, she's the

00:33:38.940 victim in the

00:33:39.500 story.

00:33:40.700 So you'd expect

00:33:41.380 the victim to

00:33:42.140 put, you know,

00:33:42.800 the spin on it

00:33:43.560 that is, you

00:33:44.460 know, friendliest

00:33:45.040 to their version.

00:33:46.600 And even she

00:33:47.580 says that Biden,

00:33:51.560 even with his

00:33:52.680 alleged bad

00:33:53.360 behavior, seems to

00:33:55.100 have genuinely

00:33:55.840 been confused

00:33:57.260 about whether

00:33:58.080 it was welcome

00:33:58.680 or not.

00:34:00.200 And there's

00:34:01.560 something in

00:34:02.140 that that's

00:34:03.420 important to

00:34:05.700 understand,

00:34:07.320 especially that

00:34:08.180 has to do

00:34:08.700 with, you

00:34:10.900 know, male,

00:34:12.020 let's say, male

00:34:12.720 perceptions over

00:34:13.960 time.

00:34:15.160 You know, the

00:34:15.720 way she tells

00:34:16.300 the story, the,

00:34:17.120 you know, the

00:34:17.780 alleged victim

00:34:19.300 and the accuser,

00:34:20.560 who, again, has

00:34:21.240 a very credible

00:34:22.080 sounding story,

00:34:23.520 the way she

00:34:24.140 tells it, it

00:34:24.860 sounds like he

00:34:25.520 made a, you

00:34:26.720 know, a way

00:34:27.360 too aggressive

00:34:28.300 move, the

00:34:29.520 type that you

00:34:30.300 certainly should

00:34:30.880 be asking for

00:34:31.800 a little bit

00:34:32.260 of, you

00:34:33.180 know, a little

00:34:33.580 bit of, you

00:34:34.960 know, agreement

00:34:35.540 and being on

00:34:37.440 the same page

00:34:38.020 about, and

00:34:39.240 without getting

00:34:39.760 into details,

00:34:40.780 let's just say

00:34:41.520 he way crossed

00:34:42.740 the line of

00:34:44.440 something you

00:34:44.920 should do

00:34:45.260 without knowing

00:34:45.860 it's okay.

00:34:47.240 Let's just say

00:34:48.040 that that's

00:34:48.420 unambiguous.

00:34:50.240 But, even

00:34:51.840 the way the

00:34:52.300 victim tells

00:34:52.860 the story, it's

00:34:53.660 as if he

00:34:54.260 didn't know.

00:34:55.900 That he

00:34:56.220 literally didn't

00:34:56.980 know it

00:34:57.560 wasn't okay.

00:34:58.840 Because he

00:34:59.200 acted in a

00:34:59.840 way that you

00:35:01.100 would only act

00:35:01.700 if you were

00:35:02.420 literally confused

00:35:03.480 about why it

00:35:04.720 didn't go well.

00:35:06.520 And I have to

00:35:07.200 say, what do

00:35:09.240 people say about

00:35:10.020 that story, even

00:35:11.040 through the eyes

00:35:11.760 of the accuser?

00:35:12.500 If they take

00:35:13.240 the accuser's

00:35:14.040 version of it,

00:35:15.280 how do you

00:35:15.700 process that?

00:35:16.500 when you

00:35:17.600 know that

00:35:18.960 even her

00:35:19.520 version is

00:35:20.500 that he

00:35:20.720 didn't know

00:35:21.100 he was doing

00:35:21.520 something wrong.

00:35:22.960 Even the way

00:35:23.740 she tells it.

00:35:26.960 We have the

00:35:27.860 benefit of

00:35:29.540 hindsight, so we

00:35:30.480 can see it

00:35:30.980 perfectly in

00:35:31.860 hindsight.

00:35:32.600 So we know

00:35:33.340 it's wrong.

00:35:34.520 There's no

00:35:35.080 ambiguity when

00:35:36.060 we're hearing

00:35:37.260 the story.

00:35:38.580 But it is

00:35:39.300 at least a

00:35:40.500 little bit

00:35:40.900 feasible that

00:35:42.320 Joe Biden

00:35:43.500 in the 90s,

00:35:44.840 the way things

00:35:45.480 were, not

00:35:46.480 saying they

00:35:46.940 should have

00:35:47.220 been that

00:35:47.580 way.

00:35:48.060 I'm not

00:35:48.320 forgiving

00:35:49.140 anything, so

00:35:50.140 don't take

00:35:50.520 me out of

00:35:50.820 context.

00:35:52.400 But you

00:35:53.000 can kind

00:35:53.380 of see that

00:35:53.840 he actually

00:35:54.240 wouldn't

00:35:54.600 know, which

00:35:56.580 is not an

00:35:57.080 excuse.

00:35:58.220 It's more

00:35:58.900 of a historical

00:35:59.780 point of

00:36:02.120 interest.

00:36:02.860 It doesn't

00:36:03.320 forgive anything.

00:36:06.540 Have you

00:36:07.120 noticed that

00:36:07.640 the standard

00:36:10.100 for quality

00:36:10.980 for broadcast

00:36:12.300 interviews has

00:36:13.220 gone way

00:36:13.660 down in a

00:36:15.200 good way?

00:36:15.600 Let me

00:36:16.720 give you an

00:36:17.060 example.

00:36:18.660 I'm so

00:36:19.400 old that I

00:36:20.120 was around

00:36:20.580 in the

00:36:20.960 corporate world

00:36:21.620 when computers

00:36:22.580 were invented,

00:36:24.500 meaning that I

00:36:25.520 lived in a

00:36:26.300 world with

00:36:26.740 typewriters as

00:36:28.340 the main

00:36:29.060 business tool

00:36:29.900 and watched

00:36:31.500 computers come

00:36:32.580 in and replace

00:36:33.480 them.

00:36:34.460 And during

00:36:34.780 that transition

00:36:35.500 there was this

00:36:36.220 weird thing that

00:36:36.820 happened in

00:36:37.260 corporate America.

00:36:38.680 And if you're

00:36:39.340 young, you're

00:36:39.820 just going to

00:36:40.180 laugh at this.

00:36:40.820 just have

00:36:42.460 pity for the

00:36:43.680 people in my

00:36:44.420 age group that

00:36:45.700 we went through

00:36:46.240 the following.

00:36:47.340 So I'd be in

00:36:48.060 my cubicle in

00:36:48.940 corporate America

00:36:49.600 and I'd need to

00:36:50.400 write a memo to

00:36:51.540 let's say some

00:36:52.260 manager in another

00:36:53.220 group.

00:36:53.940 But I had to go

00:36:54.740 through my boss.

00:36:56.460 Now that doesn't

00:36:57.220 sound so bad,

00:36:57.960 right?

00:36:58.200 You have to write a

00:36:58.880 memo to somebody

00:36:59.860 who's above you in

00:37:00.960 another department.

00:37:02.460 Well, of course,

00:37:03.140 you should probably

00:37:03.600 go through your

00:37:04.040 boss just to make

00:37:05.240 sure you don't do

00:37:06.600 anything dumb.

00:37:08.040 But the way we

00:37:08.580 had to do it was

00:37:09.460 I would have in

00:37:11.220 those days a little

00:37:12.000 computer with a

00:37:12.760 dot matrix printer.

00:37:14.460 So the process

00:37:15.200 was I would write

00:37:15.980 up my letter in

00:37:16.700 the draft form and

00:37:17.720 print it on a

00:37:18.340 dot matrix.

00:37:19.180 But you are not

00:37:20.100 allowed to give

00:37:22.580 a printout from a

00:37:24.260 dot matrix printer

00:37:25.260 to a manager in

00:37:27.300 the company because

00:37:28.080 that would be

00:37:28.460 unprofessional.

00:37:29.260 It's a dot matrix

00:37:30.020 printer.

00:37:31.040 It had to be

00:37:31.420 typed on a

00:37:33.480 Selectrix typewriter.

00:37:35.200 So you take the

00:37:35.840 dot matrix printer

00:37:36.800 and you give it

00:37:38.020 to your boss's

00:37:39.580 secretary at the

00:37:41.120 time, back when

00:37:42.220 that was actual

00:37:42.820 job title, and

00:37:44.540 the secretary would

00:37:45.480 retype what you

00:37:46.720 typed, but on a

00:37:48.200 Selectrix.

00:37:49.460 And then she would

00:37:50.200 show it to you,

00:37:51.500 and then you'd say,

00:37:52.320 no, there's some

00:37:52.900 typos, and she'd

00:37:53.740 have to retype it.

00:37:55.440 And then you'd be

00:37:56.080 happy that she had

00:37:56.840 typed what you had

00:37:57.640 on your dot matrix,

00:37:59.700 and then you would

00:38:00.480 take that to your

00:38:01.120 boss, and your

00:38:02.340 boss would change

00:38:03.320 it every time.

00:38:04.580 Not most of the

00:38:07.160 time, not a lot of

00:38:08.320 the time, every time.

00:38:10.240 And then you would

00:38:11.020 start it from scratch

00:38:11.860 again.

00:38:12.640 And you would go

00:38:13.300 back to your dot

00:38:13.960 matrix printer, and

00:38:15.000 you would make the

00:38:15.520 changes, you would

00:38:16.600 give it back to the

00:38:17.260 secretary, she would

00:38:18.600 retype it, Honest

00:38:19.680 Electrics, with the

00:38:20.800 errors, you would have

00:38:22.040 to change those errors

00:38:22.900 again, because it's

00:38:23.640 being retyped from

00:38:24.400 scratch.

00:38:25.460 And then you show it

00:38:27.120 to your boss again,

00:38:27.900 and your boss says,

00:38:28.760 you know, yeah, there's

00:38:30.760 one thing I forgot to

00:38:31.700 tell you.

00:38:33.320 And then he changes

00:38:34.380 it again, and you go

00:38:36.140 right back to the

00:38:36.840 cycle again.

00:38:37.680 So the process of

00:38:38.780 sending a memo to

00:38:40.620 somebody in my own

00:38:41.560 company that I knew

00:38:42.500 personally, who just

00:38:44.000 happened to be a level

00:38:44.780 above me in management,

00:38:46.740 could take two weeks.

00:38:50.620 That's not a joke.

00:38:52.200 You could spend two

00:38:53.860 weeks, because you

00:38:54.640 have to get your

00:38:55.120 manager's attention time

00:38:56.500 after time, and the

00:38:57.900 secretary has to not be

00:38:59.020 working on something.

00:38:59.940 two weeks to send an

00:39:02.720 email to somebody that

00:39:03.860 you know, who is 100

00:39:05.900 yards down that way in

00:39:07.240 the office.

00:39:07.860 Two weeks.

00:39:08.780 That was typical.

00:39:11.600 So, what happened, of

00:39:13.140 course, is that things

00:39:14.100 evolved to the point

00:39:15.580 where the casualness of

00:39:17.660 communications went way,

00:39:19.160 way, way, way down,

00:39:20.060 because they just had to.

00:39:21.440 So at this point, in any

00:39:23.540 business, I think it

00:39:24.860 wouldn't be that big a

00:39:25.840 deal to send a poorly

00:39:27.760 written, mistyped email

00:39:30.020 to somebody at a level

00:39:31.940 above you, copy your

00:39:33.820 boss or not copy your

00:39:34.880 boss, everything's more

00:39:35.780 casual now.

00:39:37.080 So, you know, so the

00:39:39.500 world accepted the

00:39:41.680 casualness of email,

00:39:43.300 because you just had to

00:39:44.300 after a while.

00:39:44.860 You couldn't wait two

00:39:45.600 weeks every time to

00:39:46.440 exchange a memo.

00:39:48.100 But I think the same

00:39:49.180 thing is happening

00:39:49.760 because of this shutdown.

00:39:51.560 lockdown, I'm watching a

00:39:53.260 lot of the major

00:39:53.920 broadcast networks doing

00:39:55.700 basically Skype-quality

00:39:58.280 interviews with split

00:40:00.240 screens, and I'm

00:40:01.920 watching it, and I'm

00:40:02.660 thinking, I don't mind

00:40:04.220 that at all.

00:40:05.340 So I'm watching people

00:40:06.240 who have to mute their

00:40:07.580 camera because their

00:40:08.740 kids are screaming in

00:40:09.600 the background, and the

00:40:11.200 cat walks by, and

00:40:12.700 somebody opens the door

00:40:13.980 behind them, and you

00:40:14.800 hear a siren in the back

00:40:16.620 and stuff.

00:40:18.020 And the news industry,

00:40:20.080 of course, would prefer not

00:40:21.380 to do that.

00:40:22.300 They'd like a nice,

00:40:23.180 clean, professional

00:40:23.980 headshot.

00:40:25.120 Well, yes, Ted, thank

00:40:26.400 you for asking that

00:40:27.000 question.

00:40:27.840 Let me talk about my

00:40:29.120 professional knowledge

00:40:30.800 and give you the

00:40:31.820 background.

00:40:32.920 That's the way it's

00:40:33.540 always been done.

00:40:34.700 But I think this, the

00:40:36.160 shutdown, what's this

00:40:38.480 called, by the way?

00:40:39.340 Do we have a name for

00:40:40.280 this, where we're all

00:40:41.580 staying home?

00:40:42.180 It's not a quarantine,

00:40:43.200 is it?

00:40:45.160 But I think it's lowered

00:40:46.380 our expectations, or at

00:40:49.380 least our standards, for

00:40:50.940 what a split-screen

00:40:51.940 interview would look

00:40:52.740 like.

00:40:53.100 And I think that's

00:40:53.660 actually going to be

00:40:54.480 accrued to the good.

00:40:56.400 In other words, I think

00:40:57.280 the whole TV split-screen

00:40:59.160 interview thing may

00:41:01.060 forever become more

00:41:02.140 casual.

00:41:03.560 And maybe anybody can do

00:41:06.260 it.

00:41:06.440 At this point, I think I

00:41:10.020 have the hardware and

00:41:10.960 software that I can put

00:41:12.000 on a nightly news show

00:41:14.400 that would be similar in

00:41:16.640 quality to CNN, in terms

00:41:19.900 of, you know, two bad

00:41:21.040 interview things on the

00:41:23.140 screen, because that's

00:41:24.000 what they're doing right

00:41:24.640 now.

00:41:28.120 So, some people are

00:41:30.780 yacking that Fox News

00:41:32.160 will have some legal

00:41:33.960 liability because they

00:41:35.720 downplayed the coronavirus.

00:41:37.900 Now, when I say they

00:41:38.840 downplayed it, I don't

00:41:40.080 mean Fox News as an entity.

00:41:42.660 I mean, there were

00:41:43.460 individuals, mostly

00:41:44.920 opinion people, who

00:41:47.160 downplayed it.

00:41:48.640 Now, can you sue a news

00:41:51.840 organization if their

00:41:54.540 opinion people had the

00:41:56.860 wrong opinion?

00:41:58.880 That doesn't seem like a

00:42:00.340 lawsuit you could win,

00:42:03.200 does it?

00:42:04.960 At what point is having

00:42:06.380 the wrong opinion

00:42:07.340 legally actionable?

00:42:09.460 people, especially if

00:42:10.720 your show is clearly

00:42:12.280 presented as opinion.

00:42:15.360 If somebody gives you

00:42:16.340 an opinion and you act

00:42:17.480 on it like it's a fact,

00:42:19.380 well, that's a little

00:42:20.620 bit on you, isn't it?

00:42:23.580 So, all the news

00:42:25.640 businesses have that

00:42:27.840 problem of making sure

00:42:29.480 that your opinion stuff

00:42:30.580 and your news stuff is

00:42:31.540 clearly delineated.

00:42:33.040 There's a real issue

00:42:34.040 that people can't tell

00:42:35.300 the difference.

00:42:36.900 You know, I think CNN

00:42:38.060 is a little more

00:42:39.020 ambiguous about what's

00:42:40.280 opinion and what's

00:42:41.080 news.

00:42:41.920 I think Fox does a much

00:42:43.180 better job of labeling

00:42:44.440 who's an opinion person

00:42:46.320 and who's a news person.

00:42:47.600 I mean, it's a little

00:42:48.200 more obvious over there.

00:42:49.560 But still, you do know

00:42:51.680 that people are turning

00:42:52.480 on Hannity and treating

00:42:54.280 it like it's the news,

00:42:56.460 even though he's as clear

00:42:57.680 as he could be that he's

00:42:58.700 an opinion show.

00:42:59.840 But people probably take

00:43:01.100 it as news.

00:43:01.880 You have to know

00:43:02.420 that's true.

00:43:03.740 But could it be

00:43:04.520 actionable?

00:43:05.400 I can't see how.

00:43:06.720 You know, I'd hate

00:43:08.680 to think it would be.

00:43:09.980 So there's a little

00:43:10.700 weird little article

00:43:11.540 about the president

00:43:12.700 of Mexico

00:43:13.440 who was visiting,

00:43:15.880 I guess he was doing

00:43:16.540 a political visit

00:43:17.400 to the home turf

00:43:18.460 of El Chapo.

00:43:20.040 So the area in Mexico

00:43:22.240 where El Chapo,

00:43:24.040 I don't know if he was

00:43:24.800 born or his family

00:43:25.640 was there or whatever.

00:43:26.420 So El Chapo is in jail.

00:43:28.160 But the Mexican president

00:43:29.360 stops and goes over

00:43:31.320 and shakes hands

00:43:33.000 with El Chapo's mother.

00:43:34.420 I think it was her birthday

00:43:36.140 or El Chapo's birthday,

00:43:38.100 somebody's birthday.

00:43:39.540 And acted like they knew

00:43:41.200 each other pretty well

00:43:42.280 and they were quite friendly.

00:43:45.180 And it's on video

00:43:45.980 that the president of Mexico

00:43:48.460 stopped his motorcade,

00:43:50.900 got out,

00:43:51.780 and personally shook hands

00:43:53.140 with the elderly mother

00:43:54.580 of El Chapo

00:43:55.400 and had some nice words

00:43:57.160 with her.

00:43:59.200 Instead, he got her a letter.

00:44:01.520 I assume her letter

00:44:02.440 was something about her son.

00:44:03.740 And I thought to myself,

00:44:06.020 how am I supposed

00:44:08.140 to feel about that?

00:44:11.100 How am I supposed

00:44:12.220 to feel

00:44:12.740 about the president

00:44:14.640 of Mexico

00:44:15.200 being quite friendly

00:44:17.520 with El Chapo's mom?

00:44:23.380 Certainly raises

00:44:24.260 an eyebrow, doesn't it?

00:44:26.440 Well, I've been saying

00:44:27.480 for a while

00:44:27.980 that we should

00:44:28.620 maybe just drop

00:44:29.940 the charade

00:44:30.660 that the government

00:44:32.000 of Mexico

00:44:32.780 and the cartels

00:44:33.780 are separate entities.

00:44:35.820 I mean,

00:44:36.020 they certainly have

00:44:37.000 separate job descriptions.

00:44:40.180 But I don't think

00:44:41.180 we can assume

00:44:41.880 that the government

00:44:42.640 is trying to crack down

00:44:44.100 on the cartels,

00:44:44.960 can we?

00:44:45.620 I would say

00:44:46.120 that that's not a thing.

00:44:49.440 All right.

00:44:50.040 I wonder

00:44:53.220 if we're going

00:44:53.740 to see

00:44:54.160 a bunch

00:44:54.740 of authors

00:44:56.040 going on podcasts

00:44:57.360 such as mine

00:44:58.460 because they can't

00:44:59.860 do book tours.

00:45:01.760 So let me put

00:45:02.700 this out there.

00:45:04.040 My knowledge

00:45:04.900 of the book

00:45:06.300 industry

00:45:07.020 is that

00:45:08.580 there are

00:45:09.440 two big releases

00:45:10.580 each year.

00:45:11.400 So there's

00:45:11.780 a big release

00:45:13.060 in the spring

00:45:13.700 or the summer,

00:45:17.100 spring or summer.

00:45:17.900 So it's coming up

00:45:18.540 around June-ish,

00:45:19.620 I think.

00:45:20.560 I don't know

00:45:21.000 exactly the dates.

00:45:22.540 But then there's

00:45:23.220 another one

00:45:23.600 in the autumn

00:45:24.180 before Christmas.

00:45:26.420 So my books

00:45:27.100 I usually release

00:45:28.020 in the autumn

00:45:28.500 because they tend

00:45:29.200 to be gift items

00:45:30.260 for Christmas.

00:45:31.960 But there are

00:45:32.460 going to be

00:45:32.580 a whole bunch

00:45:32.940 of authors

00:45:33.840 who can't do

00:45:34.460 a book tour

00:45:34.900 and can't sell

00:45:35.500 their book

00:45:35.920 and they just

00:45:36.400 spent a year

00:45:37.280 or two

00:45:37.540 building this book

00:45:38.400 and just can't

00:45:39.120 market it

00:45:39.640 because you can't

00:45:40.900 get on TV,

00:45:41.900 nobody wants

00:45:42.400 to interview,

00:45:43.040 et cetera.

00:45:43.700 So I'm hoping

00:45:44.540 that the podcasters

00:45:45.880 of the world

00:45:46.300 can pick up

00:45:46.880 the slack

00:45:47.460 and maybe

00:45:48.900 reach out

00:45:50.480 to some of

00:45:50.940 the big publishers

00:45:51.660 because they

00:45:52.400 would be hungry

00:45:52.980 for audience

00:45:54.180 at this point.

00:45:55.300 I would imagine

00:45:56.020 all the big publishers

00:45:56.920 shouldn't be hard

00:45:57.840 to find one.

00:45:59.220 If there's a

00:46:00.000 favorite author

00:46:00.560 you think has

00:46:01.200 a book coming out

00:46:02.000 and you're a podcaster

00:46:03.300 and you said

00:46:03.900 yourself under

00:46:05.160 normal circumstances

00:46:06.240 I would never

00:46:07.660 be able to get

00:46:08.320 this famous author

00:46:09.220 to come on

00:46:09.740 my little podcast.

00:46:11.780 But I'll bet

00:46:12.240 you could now.

00:46:12.820 I'll bet

00:46:13.620 you would be

00:46:13.980 surprised

00:46:14.560 that you

00:46:15.540 could get

00:46:15.860 an author

00:46:16.260 to come

00:46:16.740 on your podcast

00:46:17.580 now

00:46:18.220 because the

00:46:19.420 options are

00:46:19.960 low.

00:46:23.920 All right.

00:46:27.340 Looking at

00:46:28.060 your comments.

00:46:33.200 Getting phone

00:46:34.100 calls.

00:46:34.740 I don't know

00:46:35.060 what that means.

00:46:36.340 Corona and chill.

00:46:37.200 Let's see.

00:46:43.240 There will be

00:46:43.640 an avalanche

00:46:44.280 of new books.

00:46:47.400 So

00:46:47.560 Stefan Molyneux

00:46:48.700 is using

00:46:49.300 Zoom.

00:46:50.340 Well you know

00:46:50.920 I think using

00:46:51.680 Zoom for

00:46:52.240 podcasts

00:46:52.960 is no risk.

00:46:55.340 The fact that

00:46:56.340 Zoom's traffic

00:46:57.220 goes through

00:46:57.800 some servers

00:46:58.980 in China

00:46:59.540 would be terrible

00:47:01.060 if you were

00:47:01.600 a big corporation

00:47:02.400 with corporate

00:47:03.360 secrets.

00:47:03.940 but if you're

00:47:05.020 just doing

00:47:05.320 a podcast

00:47:05.900 that you're

00:47:06.260 going to

00:47:06.460 release

00:47:06.820 anyway

00:47:07.240 Zoom

00:47:08.520 would be

00:47:08.840 a great

00:47:09.140 product.

00:47:14.660 Let's see.

00:47:15.600 Brad Easton Ellis

00:47:16.520 does this

00:47:17.360 on his show.

00:47:18.300 Okay.

00:47:19.460 Good time to

00:47:20.040 call your

00:47:20.320 favorite celebrity.

00:47:21.920 Dennis Miller

00:47:22.560 went on Dave

00:47:23.300 Rubin.

00:47:25.660 Wear a mask

00:47:26.620 Scott.

00:47:27.100 I opened

00:47:29.540 a cupboard

00:47:30.720 yesterday

00:47:31.120 and I found

00:47:31.620 a N95 mask

00:47:33.100 that I don't

00:47:34.680 know it's been

00:47:35.060 sitting on a

00:47:35.820 shelf for

00:47:36.420 probably a few

00:47:37.600 years.

00:47:38.180 I don't know

00:47:38.640 why it was

00:47:39.200 used or when.

00:47:40.260 And I thought

00:47:40.580 to myself

00:47:41.060 okay if an

00:47:42.580 N95 mask

00:47:43.600 is sitting

00:47:44.100 in a dry

00:47:45.060 cupboard

00:47:46.380 and there's

00:47:47.000 no great

00:47:47.740 humidity

00:47:48.280 or any

00:47:48.860 problems

00:47:49.160 like that

00:47:49.640 and it's

00:47:49.940 been there

00:47:50.220 for a few

00:47:50.640 years

00:47:51.220 is that

00:47:52.780 safe?

00:47:54.420 I mean I

00:47:54.800 know it's

00:47:55.140 safe from

00:47:55.580 the coronavirus

00:47:56.180 because it's

00:47:56.960 been sitting

00:47:57.380 there since

00:47:57.840 before it

00:47:58.320 existed.

00:47:59.540 But is it

00:48:00.300 safe in

00:48:00.660 general?

00:48:01.460 If it's

00:48:01.820 just sitting

00:48:02.180 in a

00:48:02.580 cupboard

00:48:03.520 can any

00:48:04.200 prior germs

00:48:06.080 live there

00:48:07.540 for years

00:48:08.100 and years?

00:48:08.760 I don't

00:48:08.860 know.

00:48:14.820 Doesn't

00:48:15.260 it seem

00:48:15.580 to you

00:48:15.860 that we

00:48:16.140 should get

00:48:16.500 going on

00:48:17.000 genetic

00:48:17.400 testing?

00:48:18.780 Because

00:48:19.220 I think

00:48:20.720 that might

00:48:21.160 be another

00:48:21.740 way to

00:48:22.160 get some

00:48:22.540 people back

00:48:23.080 to work

00:48:23.580 faster.

00:48:24.340 And

00:48:26.400 we

00:48:28.600 probably

00:48:29.040 only have

00:48:29.600 to let

00:48:29.920 people who

00:48:30.480 have been

00:48:30.760 exposed to

00:48:31.440 it out

00:48:32.520 at first.

00:48:33.340 That might

00:48:33.700 be the

00:48:33.980 first wave.

00:48:35.660 But soon

00:48:36.480 after it

00:48:37.080 seems like

00:48:37.480 you also

00:48:37.960 should release

00:48:38.640 people who

00:48:39.160 might be

00:48:39.560 let's say

00:48:40.040 they've got

00:48:40.980 a prescription

00:48:42.420 for hydroxychloroquine

00:48:44.020 and they have

00:48:45.320 a genetic

00:48:45.780 makeup that's

00:48:47.020 the least

00:48:48.020 dangerous one.

00:48:49.860 Suppose you

00:48:50.320 had those

00:48:50.660 two things.

00:48:51.260 you're on

00:48:52.040 the drug.

00:48:53.140 Let's say

00:48:53.580 the doctors

00:48:54.200 decide

00:48:54.820 you do

00:48:56.480 shed

00:48:56.960 maybe a

00:48:57.600 little

00:48:57.860 if you

00:48:59.120 catch it

00:48:59.680 but you

00:49:00.160 were also

00:49:00.780 on the

00:49:01.100 drug at

00:49:01.440 the same

00:49:01.760 time.

00:49:02.340 Maybe

00:49:02.520 you'd

00:49:02.760 not even

00:49:03.420 notice

00:49:03.700 you had

00:49:03.940 symptoms.

00:49:05.360 So maybe

00:49:05.740 technically

00:49:06.540 you could

00:49:07.100 shed it

00:49:07.540 but the

00:49:07.880 odds are

00:49:08.260 low.

00:49:09.280 I can

00:49:09.620 imagine

00:49:09.960 that we

00:49:11.000 would

00:49:11.380 keep

00:49:12.780 tweaking

00:49:13.300 our

00:49:13.740 strategy

00:49:14.780 based on

00:49:15.360 what we

00:49:15.680 learned.

00:49:16.560 And I

00:49:16.720 can easily

00:49:17.180 imagine

00:49:17.560 that people

00:49:17.980 who had

00:49:18.200 the right

00:49:18.520 genetic

00:49:19.100 makeup,

00:49:20.300 let's say

00:49:21.180 they're not

00:49:21.600 overweight and

00:49:22.540 chronic smokers

00:49:23.960 and elderly

00:49:24.420 or whatever

00:49:24.840 and then

00:49:25.880 they're also

00:49:26.400 on the

00:49:26.700 hydroxychloroquine

00:49:27.640 maybe that's

00:49:29.020 the second

00:49:29.420 wave of

00:49:29.860 people who

00:49:30.340 can go

00:49:30.620 back to

00:49:30.960 work.

00:49:33.620 All right

00:49:34.240 I have a

00:49:34.760 suggestion for

00:49:35.720 you.

00:49:36.020 Are you

00:49:36.160 ready?

00:49:38.440 It goes

00:49:39.040 like this.

00:49:40.180 Do you

00:49:40.340 remember during

00:49:40.820 the Revolution

00:49:41.440 Revolutionary

00:49:42.500 War there

00:49:43.160 was a

00:49:43.460 famous

00:49:43.780 seamstress.

00:49:45.520 Her

00:49:45.620 name was

00:49:46.040 Betsy

00:49:46.380 Ross.

00:49:47.540 Betsy

00:49:47.940 Ross and

00:49:49.240 her

00:49:49.540 friends

00:49:50.680 sewed

00:49:51.820 flags.

00:49:53.260 So the

00:49:53.420 famous

00:49:53.740 Betsy

00:49:54.160 Ross

00:49:54.500 famous

00:49:55.540 for

00:49:55.860 sewing

00:49:56.300 something

00:49:56.760 at

00:49:57.000 home

00:49:57.360 to

00:49:58.740 help

00:49:58.960 with

00:49:59.140 the

00:49:59.280 fight.

00:50:00.740 We

00:50:01.340 have

00:50:01.520 that

00:50:01.680 same

00:50:01.900 situation

00:50:02.360 now.

00:50:02.840 Wouldn't

00:50:03.020 you like

00:50:03.560 a

00:50:03.960 government

00:50:04.560 approved

00:50:05.980 design

00:50:06.680 with

00:50:07.320 experts?

00:50:08.500 Wouldn't

00:50:08.760 you like

00:50:09.200 that the

00:50:10.000 administration

00:50:11.100 just published

00:50:12.700 a make

00:50:13.340 it home

00:50:13.840 mask

00:50:14.620 sew it

00:50:15.960 yourself

00:50:16.420 either by

00:50:17.860 hand or

00:50:18.540 maybe with

00:50:19.000 your sewing

00:50:19.380 machine

00:50:19.800 some

00:50:20.740 specifications

00:50:21.540 about what

00:50:22.260 materials

00:50:22.780 to use

00:50:23.320 because you

00:50:24.140 wouldn't want

00:50:24.420 to go to

00:50:24.680 the store

00:50:25.040 to buy

00:50:25.380 materials.

00:50:26.420 You'd want

00:50:26.700 to be able

00:50:26.980 to use

00:50:27.340 that old

00:50:27.820 pillow case

00:50:28.620 or the

00:50:29.680 old jeans

00:50:30.480 that you

00:50:31.440 don't wear

00:50:31.880 anymore.

00:50:32.400 You want

00:50:32.580 to be able

00:50:32.820 to cut

00:50:33.280 out some

00:50:33.660 pieces.

00:50:34.920 So wouldn't

00:50:35.220 you like

00:50:35.580 to have

00:50:35.860 a Betsy

00:50:36.400 Ross

00:50:36.720 design

00:50:37.260 just to

00:50:38.540 do a

00:50:39.040 callback

00:50:39.480 to famous

00:50:40.080 seamstress

00:50:40.780 a Betsy

00:50:41.760 Ross

00:50:41.960 design

00:50:42.420 that you

00:50:43.440 could make

00:50:43.800 at home

00:50:44.160 prior to

00:50:46.060 us having

00:50:46.500 enough

00:50:46.800 N95s

00:50:47.760 etc.

00:50:48.880 I think

00:50:49.380 you would

00:50:49.740 because people

00:50:51.160 are at home

00:50:51.680 a lot of

00:50:52.200 people know

00:50:52.640 how to

00:50:52.920 sew

00:50:53.200 especially a

00:50:53.980 certain

00:50:54.160 generation

00:50:54.700 they've got

00:50:55.220 their sewing

00:50:55.640 machines

00:50:56.080 you don't

00:50:56.960 think your

00:50:57.500 grandmother

00:50:58.420 and her

00:50:59.420 sewing machine

00:51:00.000 would sort

00:51:00.520 of be happy

00:51:00.980 to have

00:51:01.240 something to

00:51:01.600 do.

00:51:02.680 If she

00:51:03.200 had the

00:51:03.560 design

00:51:04.080 and the

00:51:04.940 government

00:51:05.260 specifications

00:51:06.040 would she

00:51:07.160 make some

00:51:07.660 Betsy

00:51:08.000 Ross

00:51:08.380 masks?

00:51:10.340 I think

00:51:10.680 she would.

00:51:11.620 I think

00:51:11.980 she would.

00:51:12.400 it might

00:51:13.160 be a

00:51:13.600 good thing

00:51:14.080 to do

00:51:14.400 just to

00:51:14.760 make

00:51:14.900 people

00:51:15.180 feel

00:51:15.480 like

00:51:16.360 they're

00:51:16.540 part

00:51:16.740 of

00:51:16.840 something.

00:51:18.120 All right.

00:51:21.980 I think

00:51:22.560 that's all

00:51:23.000 I wanted

00:51:23.320 to talk

00:51:23.640 about

00:51:23.860 today.

00:51:26.020 So you

00:51:26.640 saw a

00:51:26.960 post of

00:51:27.360 a woman

00:51:27.700 sewing

00:51:28.040 masks.

00:51:28.620 Yeah,

00:51:28.800 I think

00:51:29.100 that all

00:51:29.480 over the

00:51:29.840 country

00:51:30.120 there are

00:51:30.500 people

00:51:30.740 making

00:51:31.100 their own

00:51:31.440 masks,

00:51:32.140 but I

00:51:32.620 don't

00:51:32.740 think

00:51:32.960 they're

00:51:33.140 working

00:51:33.400 on a

00:51:33.740 common

00:51:34.080 design.

00:51:35.420 So it's

00:51:35.840 the feeling

00:51:36.960 like you're

00:51:37.500 part of

00:51:37.960 the larger

00:51:38.440 effort

00:51:39.100 that adds

00:51:40.340 a little

00:51:40.620 fun to

00:51:41.100 it,

00:51:41.660 and giving

00:51:42.160 it the

00:51:42.620 Betsy

00:51:43.040 Ross

00:51:43.440 brand,

00:51:44.880 if you

00:51:45.080 will,

00:51:45.640 takes you

00:51:46.300 back to

00:51:46.660 a time

00:51:47.060 when you

00:51:49.020 had to

00:51:49.400 sew a

00:51:49.940 piece of

00:51:50.280 fabric and

00:51:50.820 it actually

00:51:51.240 made a

00:51:52.140 difference to

00:51:52.620 the war

00:51:53.040 effort,

00:51:53.580 and we're

00:51:54.340 there.

00:51:57.100 Now there

00:51:57.740 are also

00:51:58.100 sewing machines

00:51:59.120 that you

00:52:00.240 can program,

00:52:01.060 right?

00:52:01.820 Can't you

00:52:02.360 program a

00:52:03.180 sewing machine

00:52:03.840 to whip

00:52:04.700 out masks

00:52:05.480 fairly quickly?

00:52:06.260 if you

00:52:06.680 had cut

00:52:07.800 the

00:52:08.000 squares

00:52:08.460 or if

00:52:09.440 you

00:52:09.540 had

00:52:09.680 cut

00:52:09.860 the

00:52:10.020 components,

00:52:11.600 couldn't

00:52:11.800 you

00:52:11.960 program

00:52:12.400 these

00:52:12.760 new

00:52:13.140 sewing

00:52:13.560 machines

00:52:14.020 even at

00:52:14.480 your

00:52:14.620 home?

00:52:15.220 They're

00:52:15.500 pretty

00:52:15.680 programmable

00:52:16.360 to just

00:52:17.160 go

00:52:17.320 and put

00:52:19.620 a mask.

00:52:20.620 Now,

00:52:21.400 there are

00:52:21.820 also

00:52:22.100 sewing

00:52:22.460 machines

00:52:22.920 in which

00:52:23.600 you can

00:52:23.960 sew like

00:52:24.660 a pattern

00:52:25.100 on

00:52:25.360 something.

00:52:26.500 Could

00:52:26.820 you

00:52:27.000 not

00:52:27.420 create

00:52:29.160 a

00:52:29.900 mask

00:52:30.220 design

00:52:30.700 for

00:52:32.040 the

00:52:32.180 people

00:52:32.380 who

00:52:32.500 have

00:52:32.620 the

00:52:32.760 programmable

00:52:33.460 sewing

00:52:38.240 machine

00:52:38.620 to put

00:52:38.880 a

00:52:38.980 little

00:52:39.140 American

00:52:39.500 flag

00:52:39.840 on

00:52:40.000 it.

00:52:42.480 Let's

00:52:42.840 say it's

00:52:43.080 any

00:52:43.840 color,

00:52:44.400 it could

00:52:44.640 be any

00:52:44.940 color

00:52:45.140 mask,

00:52:46.440 but the

00:52:47.060 common

00:52:47.900 design is

00:52:48.620 where your

00:52:49.020 mouth is,

00:52:49.620 it would

00:52:49.700 be a

00:52:49.920 little

00:52:50.040 American

00:52:50.400 flag or

00:52:50.940 something

00:52:51.120 like

00:52:51.280 that.

00:52:51.540 Maybe

00:52:51.720 it's

00:52:51.880 on the

00:52:52.120 side,

00:52:52.520 I

00:52:52.600 don't

00:52:52.680 know,

00:52:52.920 wherever

00:52:53.120 it

00:52:53.280 goes

00:52:53.420 best.

00:52:54.300 Be

00:52:54.480 kind

00:52:54.640 of

00:52:54.720 fun.

00:52:55.680 All

00:52:55.840 right,

00:52:56.000 that's

00:52:56.140 my

00:52:56.280 best

00:52:56.480 suggestion

00:52:56.800 for

00:52:56.960 the

00:52:57.080 day.

00:53:00.700 Oh,

00:53:02.400 somebody

00:53:02.600 says

00:53:02.880 their

00:53:03.080 church

00:53:03.400 has

00:53:03.580 done

00:53:03.780 thousands.

00:53:04.640 Yeah,

00:53:04.900 all I

00:53:05.220 really

00:53:05.440 want

00:53:05.660 is a

00:53:05.940 common

00:53:06.200 design

00:53:06.740 that's

00:53:07.920 the

00:53:08.200 Betsy

00:53:08.880 Ross

00:53:09.340 version,

00:53:10.500 and you

00:53:10.800 can put

00:53:11.100 a flag

00:53:11.460 on it.

00:53:12.300 That's

00:53:12.560 what I'd

00:53:12.820 like to

00:53:13.080 see.

00:53:14.160 They're

00:53:14.360 not

00:53:14.560 OSHA

00:53:14.900 safety

00:53:15.380 approved.

00:53:16.100 That is

00:53:16.560 true,

00:53:17.280 but I

00:53:17.660 think the

00:53:18.460 experts are

00:53:19.060 coming around

00:53:19.660 to the

00:53:19.960 idea that

00:53:20.680 it's

00:53:20.800 better than

00:53:21.240 nothing.

00:53:22.420 Better

00:53:22.700 than

00:53:22.900 nothing.

00:53:23.860 All

00:53:24.020 right,

00:53:24.660 that's

00:53:24.900 all for

00:53:25.120 now.

00:53:25.580 I will

00:53:25.840 talk to

00:53:26.160 you

00:53:26.360 tonight,

00:53:27.680 7 o'clock

00:53:28.420 Pacific,

00:53:28.980 10 o'clock

00:53:29.940 Eastern.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - March 30, 2020

Episode 881 Scott Adams： Sip Away Your Cares and Learn What the Future Holds

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