Real Coffee with Scott Adams - April 06, 2020


Episode 896 Scott Adams: My #Coronavirus Ventriloquist Act is Not to be Missed


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Bill Pulte is wearing a face mask, and it s time for the simultaneous sip of coffee, but is it too late to get back to normal? Plus, a special guest joins the Sip-a-day crew to talk about the coronavirus outbreak.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, come on in. It's time for the simultaneous sip. It's good to see Bill Pulte
00:00:19.800 in the house. Bill, are you wearing your mask? Be careful. Can't be too careful.
00:00:25.620 Well, today the simultaneous sip will be extra special because it always is. Let's face
00:00:36.440 it. And all you need to participate in the simultaneous sip is a cup or a mug or a glass
00:00:43.340 of tanker chalice or stein, a canteen jug or flask of saline and kind. Fill it with your
00:00:47.600 favorite liquid. I like coffee. And join me now for the... Oh, okay. Well, this isn't
00:00:56.440 going to be so easy. If you're listening at home, I'm wearing a face mask. Something's
00:01:01.980 got to give. I can either risk my life or not have coffee. Risk my life, not have coffee.
00:01:12.420 Sip time. Go. Oh, yeah. You've got to keep your priorities straight, people. Now, back
00:01:26.940 to safety. Now, you might be saying to yourself, Scott, why are you selfishly wearing an N95
00:01:34.960 mask when everybody knows that they should be reserved for medical professionals? Well,
00:01:41.300 the story is I found this in a drawer. I don't know how old it is. I don't know why I originally
00:01:49.060 ever had it, but I sort of randomly found it in a drawer and it had been used. So I don't
00:01:54.560 think that the medical professionals wanted this one. Now, I'm always looking for the bright
00:02:01.640 spot in the crisis. And I think there's one bright spot that everybody is overlooking.
00:02:09.020 And I feel it's down to me to point out the positive in this bad situation. And the positive
00:02:16.600 is, ever since I was a little kid, I wanted to be a ventriloquist. But if you've ever tried
00:02:26.180 being a ventriloquist, it's really hard until today. So I'd like to do my ventriloquist
00:02:34.860 act. I'm asking Dilbert to join me. Dilbert has his face mask on. And I give you now ventriloquism
00:02:46.660 in the age of coronavirus. Hey, Dilbert. How are you doing today? I'm doing pretty good. Pretty
00:02:52.740 good. Are you worried about the coronavirus? A little bit. Yeah, a little bit. Doing my
00:03:00.340 social isolation. How's that working out? It's the social isolation, that is. Well, seriously,
00:03:07.200 when you're a single guy, every day is Palm Sunday. What? Every day is Palm Sunday. I don't
00:03:16.280 get it. That's okay. Well, so Dilbert, do you have a sense of smell? No. Do you have a sense
00:03:27.900 of taste? No. Did they recently go away? Now that you mention it, yeah. It was sort of
00:03:38.340 recent. Do you feel any fever? A little bit. I'm a little bit warm. I've got to admit. I
00:03:46.220 don't know. Is it warm in here? Is it warm in here? I can't. It seems a little warm in
00:03:49.600 here. Do you have any chest pains or a dry cough? Yeah, now that you mention it, a little
00:04:00.340 bit of a dry cough and my chest pains. Oh, my chest pains. Yep. Yep. Chest pains. A little
00:04:08.680 bit. Yeah. Now that you mention it. Well, I'm no doctor, but you're a little bit close to
00:04:17.500 me right now. Really? Really? Yeah, you're really close to me right now. Really? Really?
00:04:25.800 Is this close? I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you. No, this isn't funny. I'm not
00:04:32.160 touching you. I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you. I'm not touching. This is not
00:04:38.660 funny. I know you think this is funny. This is not funny. I'm not touching you.
00:04:47.500 Whew. That's how you handle that.
00:04:58.240 So, in the age of coronavirus, we all can be ventriloquists. It's much easier.
00:05:05.540 All right.
00:05:10.160 Did you hear the news that Joe Biden has agreed that if he appears in public, he'll wear a mask, a face mask?
00:05:18.280 Now, I love my simulation.
00:05:22.140 And the simulation every day delivers to us a little delicious nugget.
00:05:26.980 What is the one thing that you didn't necessarily think was true, but you couldn't get it out of your head,
00:05:34.020 that Joe Biden, when he's only appearing from his secret basement bunker on video, he could be a deep fake.
00:05:42.140 I'm not saying he is.
00:05:43.260 But you can't rule it out, because the technology could actually reproduce that.
00:05:49.720 But, luckily, we'll see him in person, except that he'll be wearing a mask and probably his aviator sunglasses.
00:05:58.280 So, what could be more perfect than a candidate for president who is unable to show proof of life?
00:06:07.320 I think that's just perfect.
00:06:08.760 An insightful comment from Twitter user A.S. Fooley, P-H-O-U-L-E, and he says this.
00:06:21.360 He says,
00:06:21.660 They have the same problem the FDA has when approving new drugs, and that they'll get criticized if someone ties their decision to a death, any death.
00:06:38.780 Trade-offs go out the window.
00:06:42.400 You are correct.
00:06:44.080 You are correct. 1.00
00:06:45.360 A.S. Fooley, fool. 1.00
00:06:47.800 Even though your name sounds like fool, it's a very wise thing to say. 0.99
00:06:52.200 I'm probably pronouncing it wrong. 0.99
00:06:53.300 And I would agree that the incentives are wrong, because the leaders, their primary incentive is to avoid killing somebody.
00:07:04.060 Whereas, you and I, if we were to make the decision, we'd say,
00:07:09.240 Well, maybe it's better to get the economy running, and a few people could die.
00:07:15.100 You know, it's a tough world.
00:07:16.620 You've got to make choices.
00:07:17.400 So, I don't think that our leaders are in a position to make the decision that is the most important decision.
00:07:25.260 In other words, we have a system which handcuffs the decision makers,
00:07:30.480 and they really can't make an independent decision that would be good for the country,
00:07:35.020 because what's good for the country could be the very opposite of what's good for the decision makers.
00:07:41.120 So, that's a bad system.
00:07:42.520 A good system is where, let's say, there's transparency and democracy,
00:07:47.540 and everybody can see what the leader is doing.
00:07:50.600 Then you say, Oh, okay.
00:07:52.240 Well, that decision, it might be good for the leader, too, but it's so transparent,
00:07:56.080 we can see that it's also good for us.
00:07:58.340 So, as long as the leader's interests and our interests are the same,
00:08:03.240 it doesn't matter too much if a decision is also good for the leader,
00:08:08.460 as long as it's good for us, too.
00:08:09.660 You know, if something's good for the economy, it would be good for the Trump business.
00:08:14.280 But I don't rule it out because of that.
00:08:16.780 I just say, Well, isn't it good that we have the same incentives?
00:08:19.780 But as was just pointed out, we, the public, do not have the same incentives as our leader at this moment,
00:08:26.820 and that could kill a lot of people.
00:08:29.380 It actually could kill people, that system imbalance.
00:08:33.060 So what would it take to fix the system so that the people who are making the decisions
00:08:40.480 could make a decision that would get people killed
00:08:44.560 and still would be okay with the decision-makers?
00:08:48.500 Who possibly could make those kinds of decisions?
00:08:51.620 Somebody says AI.
00:08:53.060 I hadn't thought about that, but that would be an interesting alternative if we had that technology.
00:08:58.180 Here's my answer.
00:09:00.640 The public.
00:09:02.400 We have a situation in which we cannot depend on our leaders to make the right decision
00:09:08.320 because what's good for them is actually not what's good for us
00:09:12.080 because they're more about not being blamed for killing somebody.
00:09:17.360 Totally understandable.
00:09:19.340 Humans are humans, right? 0.68
00:09:20.520 If you were in that position, you'd be a little reluctant to kill people
00:09:24.320 and have that on your permanent record.
00:09:27.060 But if the economy takes a big hit, well, you're a famous doctor or you're the president.
00:09:32.940 You're not personally going to take much of a hit.
00:09:35.980 Your life will be similar, but you don't want to be blamed for murder.
00:09:40.100 So the one way to solve this that I can see is for the public to take control of the decision.
00:09:46.380 Not yet.
00:09:47.160 I think you still have to give them a little bit of room to operate.
00:09:51.760 There's still information being collected, et cetera.
00:09:54.600 But my personal timeline goes like this.
00:09:58.140 If at the end of this week our leaders are not doing the minimum level of competent behavior,
00:10:07.260 which is they have something like a plan.
00:10:10.080 I don't care if it gets revised, but there should be something like an initial plan.
00:10:14.920 And something like telling us how many supplies we have for the hospitals and how many we need.
00:10:21.880 Just really basic stuff.
00:10:24.660 If they can do that by the end of the week, and it's pretty easy,
00:10:29.800 you know, there's nothing difficult about any of that,
00:10:32.420 then I would say, okay, let the government keep running with the ball
00:10:36.360 because they've shown they can get yardage, to use a sports analogy.
00:10:40.420 And so as long as they're gaining ground, let them keep going.
00:10:44.980 But if it looks like at the end of this week we don't have something that looks like a plan,
00:10:49.600 even a preliminary one,
00:10:51.340 and we don't have something that looks like good information
00:10:53.980 so that we, the public, can make some decisions on our own
00:10:57.560 or participate or show our support for something
00:11:00.620 or put more money behind pushing to get more supplies of this kind or that,
00:11:07.080 knowing how big the risk is so we can buy into the government's decision
00:11:12.640 or not buy into it because we've been fully informed.
00:11:16.340 So if we get to the end of the week, we just have to take matters into our own hands.
00:11:21.560 Has that ever worked before?
00:11:23.140 Have you ever seen a situation recently in which the public made the decision
00:11:29.400 and then just forced the government to do it?
00:11:32.200 Yeah.
00:11:33.040 Yeah, you saw it this week.
00:11:34.920 Who forced the government and our experts to finally admit that face masks work?
00:11:42.660 That didn't come from the government.
00:11:45.480 That didn't come from the experts.
00:11:48.480 That came from us.
00:11:50.640 That came from the public.
00:11:51.780 The public basically just overruled the experts, right?
00:11:57.320 That's what I saw.
00:11:58.640 I saw the public say,
00:12:00.340 it's obvious that you're lying to us about that,
00:12:03.720 so you're going to change that now.
00:12:06.600 You're going to go change that.
00:12:08.560 And what did the public do?
00:12:10.460 Or what did the leaders do?
00:12:13.240 They went and changed it.
00:12:14.900 They went and changed it
00:12:16.280 because their bosses, the public, said,
00:12:19.980 you know, we're okay giving you a lot of freedom to be flexible
00:12:25.120 because we don't have all the information.
00:12:27.140 But when you lie to us that aggressively
00:12:29.500 and that blatantly about the face masks not working,
00:12:33.320 you don't get to make the decisions anymore.
00:12:36.760 The public took that decision away from them.
00:12:39.560 Am I over-interpreting that?
00:12:42.920 Would you say that that was an accurate description
00:12:44.960 of what we just witnessed?
00:12:46.600 Did you not witness the public simply took the decision away
00:12:50.740 from the leaders and the experts
00:12:52.940 because it was obvious they weren't getting it done?
00:12:55.180 It was obvious they were lying to us.
00:12:56.640 Well, likewise, although maybe we don't know the right answers
00:13:01.760 for when to go back to work and how to do it,
00:13:04.240 we do know the difference between having a plan
00:13:06.680 and not having a plan.
00:13:08.580 We can tell the difference, and we don't have a plan.
00:13:12.640 And if we don't get one,
00:13:14.960 I think we have to take that control back.
00:13:17.620 So we, the public, need to do exactly what we did with face masks.
00:13:21.280 We need to take the decision-making back
00:13:24.060 if we have a system where the incentives of our leaders
00:13:27.860 and our experts render them unable to act
00:13:31.240 or at least unable to act in a way
00:13:33.820 that we think is in the best interest for the public.
00:13:37.140 So at the end of the week,
00:13:38.660 if we don't have something that looks like the government
00:13:40.980 actually being able to function, you know,
00:13:43.980 in a good way that's good for the public,
00:13:46.740 then I'm going to start putting together a plan.
00:13:49.460 And if I can get enough public support for it,
00:13:53.740 I think we should exert civil disobedience
00:13:58.140 and just implement the plan.
00:14:01.100 Now here's the thing you need to know.
00:14:02.560 If three people break the law, well, they go to jail.
00:14:06.640 You know, because there's lots of police,
00:14:08.820 and if only three people are breaking the law
00:14:10.960 and they get caught, well, they go to jail.
00:14:13.620 But if 100 billion people break the law
00:14:16.040 or break the guidelines,
00:14:17.220 in this case it's more guidelines than laws,
00:14:20.140 if 100 million people break the guidelines,
00:14:23.140 the police break them too.
00:14:25.440 And they say, oh, I guess we're doing this now.
00:14:28.080 The police don't send 100 million people home.
00:14:31.800 They can't.
00:14:33.180 So we should watch our government,
00:14:36.460 and we should have very clear criteria
00:14:38.320 for what it means for them to succeed and to fail.
00:14:42.580 And here's my clear criteria.
00:14:45.160 At the end of the week,
00:14:46.700 we should have something like the bare bones of a plan
00:14:49.700 to get back to work.
00:14:51.320 You know, at least an outline, the beginning of,
00:14:53.920 something that shows, you know,
00:14:55.660 there's thought and intention there
00:14:58.220 that seems in the right direction.
00:14:59.720 Doesn't have to be perfect.
00:15:01.560 Doesn't even have to be one that I personally agree with,
00:15:04.440 because I'm no expert.
00:15:05.800 But something that shows they're doing the job.
00:15:08.440 That would be enough.
00:15:09.180 And also something that shows
00:15:11.540 they're at least trying to give us useful numbers
00:15:13.740 about the PPE and ventilators and all that stuff.
00:15:17.920 So those are very objective.
00:15:19.820 They either gave us some context
00:15:21.520 of how much we have and how much we need,
00:15:24.120 or they didn't.
00:15:25.380 Doesn't even have to be accurate,
00:15:26.740 because they can update it as they go.
00:15:29.540 So that's where I'm at.
00:15:33.400 It seems to me that CNN is in a bad spot,
00:15:36.100 because they need this hydroxychloroquine to not work.
00:15:40.540 Because a lot of what they need to believe
00:15:43.420 and they need for their business model
00:15:45.220 and they need for the public to find out
00:15:47.620 is that the president is not serving them well.
00:15:51.140 You know, he's being unscientific
00:15:52.520 about his optimism.
00:15:54.680 And it's starting to bug me.
00:15:59.700 Because here's what I'm watching the press doing,
00:16:01.960 and I don't know if the press
00:16:02.860 could be more worthless than this.
00:16:05.540 It feels like the press is trying to get
00:16:07.880 Fauci and Trump to act like the other.
00:16:11.600 In other words, they're trying to get Trump
00:16:13.240 to talk the way a doctor would talk,
00:16:16.320 and they're trying to get Fauci
00:16:17.880 to talk the way a non-doctor would talk
00:16:20.760 about exactly the same topic,
00:16:22.900 whether it's worth the risk of the hydroxychloroquine.
00:16:26.500 But they don't disagree.
00:16:29.500 It's only the way they talk that's different.
00:16:32.540 I don't need Trump to talk like a doctor.
00:16:35.500 I don't need the doctor to talk like a layperson.
00:16:39.380 I'm perfectly happy if the doctor says,
00:16:42.320 this has not gone through clinical trials.
00:16:45.040 That's what would tell us that it's the safest.
00:16:48.060 That's what would be required for me personally
00:16:50.380 as a doctor to say, go do this.
00:16:52.140 But, as a doctor, I can also say
00:16:55.840 that individual doctors might make the choice
00:16:58.840 and it might be a reasonable one
00:17:00.180 to give the drug under certain circumstances.
00:17:04.500 What does President Trump say?
00:17:06.560 Same thing.
00:17:08.480 President Trump says the same thing.
00:17:09.900 He just uses layperson language.
00:17:11.380 So, if I have to sit through another press conference
00:17:15.480 where the press is trying to get Trump to talk like a doctor
00:17:19.520 or trying to get a doctor to talk like Trump,
00:17:22.500 could anything be less useful than that?
00:17:26.300 Anything.
00:17:27.480 Is there anything that the press could do
00:17:29.660 to make themselves more discredited,
00:17:33.080 more useless than trying to get two different professions
00:17:36.520 to use the same language,
00:17:38.500 even when we know they're talking about
00:17:40.040 exactly the same thing in the same way?
00:17:42.280 I mean, content-wise, it's the same thing. 0.98
00:17:44.600 Could not be more useless.
00:17:47.340 Apparently, if you watched the last conference 0.96
00:17:54.840 Trump referred to, or maybe it was the one before,
00:17:58.640 he referred to a study that said
00:18:00.280 that people who were taking hydroxychloroquine for lupus
00:18:07.300 were not getting COVID-19.
00:18:10.280 And the suggestion is that that shows
00:18:13.380 that the drug works to prevent coronavirus.
00:18:20.720 The problem with that is that that never happened.
00:18:24.140 There is no study of that type.
00:18:26.680 There is anecdotal evidence from China, I think,
00:18:29.920 that they said that they noticed that correlation.
00:18:32.840 So, it's something they noticed,
00:18:34.720 but it's not a study.
00:18:36.800 So, the president was just dead wrong that it's a study.
00:18:40.760 Because that would certainly inflate
00:18:42.920 the credibility of what we do have,
00:18:46.260 which is just anecdotal reports
00:18:47.940 that China noticed there was a correlation.
00:18:54.400 Here's an update from my local medical situation
00:18:57.300 in Northern California.
00:18:59.260 At least for Kaiser Permanente.
00:19:02.320 I can't speak for other hospitals.
00:19:04.260 If you have all of the symptoms for coronavirus,
00:19:08.340 I mean, just the classic ones,
00:19:09.820 it's just obvious you have it.
00:19:11.900 You know, the short of breath,
00:19:13.080 the tightness, the dry cough,
00:19:15.180 you know, that you've had for several weeks,
00:19:17.200 contact with people who might,
00:19:18.820 yeah, everything.
00:19:19.720 If you have all of the symptoms,
00:19:22.020 but you're not hospital ready,
00:19:25.980 you can't get a test.
00:19:28.640 You can't get a test.
00:19:30.740 And you can't get the hydroxychloroquine
00:19:33.860 or anything else.
00:19:34.940 You're literally told to walk it off.
00:19:38.600 So the medical profession where I live
00:19:42.400 is already non-existent.
00:19:44.200 I can't go there for something else
00:19:46.380 because they're sort of reserving the hospitals
00:19:49.320 for the important stuff.
00:19:50.360 So I can't use it for what I want to use it for,
00:19:54.420 nor can I use it for the thing it's designed for,
00:19:58.080 which is coronavirus.
00:19:59.380 So you can't use it if you don't have coronavirus,
00:20:02.440 but you also can't use it if you have coronavirus.
00:20:07.440 Those are the two conditions.
00:20:09.280 Now, if you have coronavirus
00:20:10.380 and you're ready for hospitalization,
00:20:12.920 then apparently they'll start to get flexible
00:20:15.280 when it's too late, right?
00:20:20.240 Because the hydroxychloroquine
00:20:21.640 almost certainly has more impact
00:20:23.700 if you get it early.
00:20:27.040 So, and at the same time,
00:20:29.180 I can confirm from one person
00:20:31.240 in my personal circle
00:20:33.100 who isn't a hospital employee
00:20:35.560 who was sent home
00:20:36.360 because they don't have anything to do.
00:20:38.520 Now, is there any conflict
00:20:40.580 between the predictions
00:20:43.680 that the hospitals will be slammed
00:20:45.680 and the fact that 90% of the hospitals
00:20:48.420 or something like that
00:20:49.540 are so not busy
00:20:51.260 they're sending people home
00:20:52.340 because there's nothing to do?
00:20:53.900 There's no conflict between those two things.
00:20:56.560 The reason 90% of the hospitals are empty
00:20:59.060 is because they're anticipating a surge.
00:21:02.320 And the anticipated surge is not today.
00:21:05.660 At least not today, everywhere.
00:21:07.820 It's like a week from now.
00:21:09.420 So, the fact that they're ready
00:21:11.540 and maybe they got ready too soon,
00:21:15.020 I don't think that's a knock against them.
00:21:17.220 And it certainly doesn't say
00:21:18.380 that they're doing anything wrong
00:21:19.540 just based on that.
00:21:21.700 So, here's the two movies
00:21:24.700 that have taken form.
00:21:26.500 And this is going to bug you for years.
00:21:29.440 But there are two movies
00:21:30.720 or two interpretations
00:21:31.800 of what we're seeing
00:21:32.820 and they can never be sorted out.
00:21:35.920 Meaning that there's no way in the future
00:21:38.100 we'll ever know who was right.
00:21:40.220 So, these two movies will just go forever.
00:21:42.660 The two movies are this.
00:21:43.740 Movie one,
00:21:45.120 infections are lower than predicted
00:21:46.840 because the mitigation works.
00:21:49.720 So, we're seeing less than predicted deaths
00:21:52.480 and infections
00:21:54.180 exactly because social isolation works.
00:21:58.200 and maybe also the hydroxychloroquine is working
00:22:02.080 for the few people that can get it.
00:22:04.980 So, that would be movie one
00:22:06.460 that we're doing all the right things
00:22:08.560 and it's working.
00:22:09.900 Here's movie two.
00:22:11.820 Infections are lower than predicted
00:22:13.240 and that's proof that the entire thing
00:22:15.100 was a giant hoax
00:22:16.200 and we should have gone to work the whole time.
00:22:18.520 You'll never be able to sort those out.
00:22:23.440 A hundred years from now
00:22:24.680 we still won't know
00:22:26.060 if infections were low
00:22:29.140 because we did a good job
00:22:30.680 and there will be people who argue it
00:22:32.900 and they'll have statistics and arguments
00:22:34.540 or if it was never that big a problem
00:22:37.580 in the first place
00:22:38.500 and we just had a mass hysteria about it
00:22:41.120 because you know there are going to be
00:22:42.860 experts and scientists and data
00:22:45.120 to make that point as well.
00:22:46.360 Those two worlds will go forward forever
00:22:49.580 and never have to bump.
00:22:53.320 They're just two completely different realities
00:22:55.460 that have now been created
00:22:57.640 and we will live
00:22:59.100 you've got to pick one.
00:23:00.460 You're going to live in one of those realities
00:23:01.980 or the other.
00:23:03.820 So, that's not good.
00:23:09.000 If you didn't hear me last night
00:23:10.760 there's a website that I tweeted yesterday
00:23:13.120 so if you look in my yesterday tweets
00:23:15.060 you'll see that you can calculate
00:23:17.140 your own risk of dying
00:23:18.420 from coronavirus
00:23:19.640 and I calculated mine
00:23:21.860 put in my particulars
00:23:23.060 and it gave me a 2.6% chance of dying
00:23:26.400 if I get it
00:23:28.240 and about a 50% chance of getting it.
00:23:32.360 So, you'll cut that in half.
00:23:35.080 Right?
00:23:35.340 So, 1.3% chance
00:23:37.740 of me dying of coronavirus
00:23:40.160 according to one website.
00:23:42.080 I mentioned last night
00:23:45.380 but if some of you didn't hear it
00:23:46.540 some smart people are noticing
00:23:48.500 that there's this
00:23:50.000 freakishly good correlation
00:23:52.640 between what happens to people
00:23:55.300 when they've got COVID-19
00:23:56.700 and what happens to people
00:23:58.520 with a completely different problem
00:24:00.220 called high altitude pulmonary edema.
00:24:03.420 Now, the theory is
00:24:06.220 that with high altitude pulmonary edema
00:24:10.020 that it's not the lungs necessarily
00:24:13.120 well, yeah
00:24:14.440 I think the issue is that
00:24:16.640 if you look at the lungs
00:24:18.660 of the two different patients
00:24:19.960 with these two different problems
00:24:21.280 and you do the checklist of symptoms
00:24:23.460 they're identical.
00:24:25.440 Now, the fact that the symptoms
00:24:27.220 are identical
00:24:27.920 doesn't mean that there's only one problem
00:24:31.140 and we should figure out which it is
00:24:33.080 it means that these two
00:24:34.700 have something in common
00:24:35.920 that might be useful to know.
00:24:38.220 In other words
00:24:38.600 it might be a key
00:24:39.720 to finding out something important
00:24:41.120 and the hypothesis is
00:24:43.040 that just maybe
00:24:43.840 unlike the current view
00:24:46.280 the consensus view
00:24:47.380 is that the virus
00:24:48.600 gets in your lungs
00:24:49.480 and destroys them
00:24:50.420 that what might be happening
00:24:52.800 unconfirmed
00:24:54.220 but some doctors are speculating
00:24:57.100 that what might be happening
00:24:58.560 is that the blood
00:25:00.000 might begin to get degraded
00:25:02.020 so it can't carry the oxygen
00:25:03.380 to the lungs
00:25:04.220 and then the damage
00:25:05.600 you see in the lungs
00:25:06.520 is simply the result
00:25:07.980 of the blood being damaged
00:25:09.220 and not being able
00:25:10.220 to provide enough oxygen.
00:25:12.620 So
00:25:13.040 so
00:25:15.120 and that would also suggest
00:25:17.400 that there's a reason
00:25:18.520 the hydroxychloroquine
00:25:19.700 works because I'm told
00:25:21.920 and you know
00:25:23.320 I can't verify this myself
00:25:24.600 but I'm told that malaria
00:25:25.980 has that same quality
00:25:28.040 which is that
00:25:29.320 it affects the blood.
00:25:31.680 So if the hydroxychloroquine
00:25:33.720 is known to fix something
00:25:35.480 in the blood
00:25:36.400 and this might also be a problem
00:25:39.420 that's happening
00:25:40.040 in the blood
00:25:41.200 and there are very similar
00:25:43.360 protective mechanisms going on
00:25:47.100 there's some smart people
00:25:49.620 who say
00:25:50.020 maybe that's the reason
00:25:51.620 it's working.
00:25:52.160 so
00:25:53.320 so you got that going on
00:25:56.780 so there are two
00:25:57.300 completely different theories
00:25:58.640 of what the problem is
00:26:00.680 whether the infection
00:26:01.900 is hurting the lungs
00:26:03.640 directly
00:26:04.140 or the
00:26:04.980 the blood directly
00:26:06.080 and then the blood
00:26:06.880 hurts the lungs
00:26:07.540 but in both of those cases
00:26:09.220 the anecdotal evidence
00:26:11.640 suggests
00:26:12.240 that the hydroxychloroquine
00:26:13.820 is still a good bet.
00:26:15.540 Two completely different
00:26:17.080 potential explanations
00:26:19.460 and it's the same treatment
00:26:20.900 and the treatment
00:26:22.100 doesn't have a big downside
00:26:23.640 in terms of side effects
00:26:25.740 it's just getting painfully
00:26:28.600 obvious
00:26:29.960 that you know
00:26:32.080 the supply of this
00:26:33.540 this drug is important.
00:26:36.060 Now of course
00:26:36.440 the lupus people
00:26:38.040 and the arthritis people
00:26:39.080 and the malaria people
00:26:40.060 are justifiably
00:26:42.280 quite concerned
00:26:43.220 that their supply
00:26:44.740 will be taken away
00:26:45.600 and they could die 0.89
00:26:46.320 you know
00:26:47.260 if you've got untreated lupus
00:26:49.000 or something
00:26:49.360 you could just die.
00:26:50.900 So they are justifiably
00:26:52.840 panicked about their
00:26:53.740 supply situation
00:26:54.920 but
00:26:56.100 here again
00:26:57.180 since the task force
00:26:58.420 does not give us
00:26:59.440 useful information
00:27:00.900 about how much we have
00:27:03.120 and how much we need
00:27:04.380 and I've been asked
00:27:06.440 this question
00:27:07.160 which is a fair question
00:27:08.160 people say
00:27:08.860 does it really matter
00:27:10.320 if the public
00:27:12.320 knows the data
00:27:13.840 as long as we're trying
00:27:14.880 as hard as we can
00:27:15.800 to make as much
00:27:17.080 as we can
00:27:17.640 and I would say
00:27:19.220 under normal world
00:27:20.620 you know
00:27:21.380 you could see
00:27:22.180 why it wouldn't matter
00:27:23.180 as long as we're
00:27:24.160 trying as hard as we can
00:27:25.220 to make as much as we can
00:27:26.460 well that's all you can do
00:27:27.900 you know
00:27:28.440 and it's not a problem
00:27:29.440 if you make too much
00:27:30.400 that's not the worst problem
00:27:31.480 in the world
00:27:31.880 but here's the problem
00:27:33.500 let's take hydroxychloroquine
00:27:35.800 do you know
00:27:37.520 as a citizen
00:27:38.340 do you know
00:27:39.780 if the reason
00:27:40.480 that you can't get it
00:27:41.780 is because of supply
00:27:44.020 or because of incompetence
00:27:47.060 in leadership
00:27:49.200 or specifically
00:27:51.100 a specific kind
00:27:52.540 of incompetence
00:27:53.380 which is the leaders
00:27:54.720 don't want to risk
00:27:55.820 of killing somebody
00:27:56.940 even if it means
00:27:59.040 saving a million
00:28:00.260 can you tell
00:28:02.500 as a citizen
00:28:03.280 if the real problem
00:28:04.920 here is the supply
00:28:06.140 you can't
00:28:07.520 because our government
00:28:08.860 has not given us
00:28:10.120 supply information
00:28:11.840 in context
00:28:12.800 today for example
00:28:14.320 FEMA tweeted out 0.63
00:28:16.440 this completely useless
00:28:18.020 information
00:28:19.020 this is from
00:28:19.780 Pete Gaynor
00:28:20.420 at FEMA
00:28:21.080 now this is nothing
00:28:22.240 against Pete Gaynor
00:28:23.480 nothing against FEMA
00:28:24.480 but he tweets out
00:28:27.020 that the project
00:28:28.460 the air bridge
00:28:29.000 where we're flying
00:28:29.700 and stuff from
00:28:30.260 other countries
00:28:30.820 brought in
00:28:31.980 2.85 million
00:28:33.240 surgical masks
00:28:34.520 18,000 gyons 0.99
00:28:37.480 170,000 respirators
00:28:39.340 11 million gloves
00:28:40.580 is that a lot?
00:28:42.800 do you know?
00:28:44.300 is that a lot?
00:28:45.760 plane came in
00:28:46.600 with 170,000
00:28:48.320 N95 respirators
00:28:49.600 how many hospitals
00:28:51.240 does that supply
00:28:52.460 and for how many days?
00:28:54.820 is that 3 hospitals?
00:28:56.820 does that give us
00:28:58.400 1% of our capacity?
00:29:00.320 there's no context
00:29:01.520 why do I care
00:29:03.680 how much was on the plane?
00:29:05.820 I don't
00:29:06.380 I only care
00:29:07.780 that we have enough
00:29:08.640 I care that we have
00:29:10.080 10% or 90%
00:29:11.360 so here's a concrete
00:29:12.460 answer to your question
00:29:13.600 why does the public
00:29:15.020 need to know?
00:29:16.500 here's why I need to know
00:29:17.600 if the reason
00:29:19.120 I can't get
00:29:20.080 the meds
00:29:21.940 that I personally think
00:29:23.720 would be a good
00:29:24.940 risk reward trade off
00:29:26.280 you know
00:29:26.680 the hydroxychloroquine
00:29:27.840 if the reason
00:29:29.180 I can't get it
00:29:29.900 is because
00:29:30.260 the supply
00:29:31.140 can't be fixed
00:29:32.120 then I'm going
00:29:34.600 to be patient
00:29:35.240 and I'm going
00:29:36.480 to say
00:29:36.700 okay
00:29:37.080 let's let the
00:29:38.640 lupus people
00:29:39.220 get their supply
00:29:40.080 let's not do
00:29:42.460 anything crazy
00:29:43.260 until our supply
00:29:44.840 is under control
00:29:45.800 but I don't know
00:29:46.960 that
00:29:47.320 our president
00:29:48.700 just said
00:29:49.100 we got 29 million
00:29:50.180 pills
00:29:50.600 is that a lot?
00:29:52.780 is that not a lot?
00:29:54.320 there's no context
00:29:55.140 I have no idea
00:29:55.960 so
00:29:57.540 I as a
00:29:59.800 citizen
00:30:00.740 can't get involved
00:30:02.000 I can't push
00:30:03.680 anybody
00:30:04.040 I can't force
00:30:05.620 anybody to resign
00:30:06.540 I can't put
00:30:07.780 pressure on anybody
00:30:08.720 because I don't
00:30:09.760 know what to
00:30:10.660 pressure or why
00:30:11.500 I'd just be
00:30:12.800 flying blind
00:30:13.460 but
00:30:14.500 if you told me
00:30:15.800 that we have
00:30:16.480 enough pills
00:30:17.240 and I'm still
00:30:19.220 not getting them
00:30:19.980 let's say I
00:30:20.940 had a reason
00:30:21.920 to get them
00:30:22.380 if we have
00:30:23.560 enough
00:30:23.980 and I'm not
00:30:24.680 getting them
00:30:25.100 I know who
00:30:25.560 to push
00:30:26.020 right
00:30:27.020 I'm going to
00:30:28.000 push my
00:30:28.340 government
00:30:28.720 I'm going to
00:30:29.280 push Fauci
00:30:30.320 I'm going to
00:30:31.780 rob a pharmacy 0.67
00:30:33.560 I'm going to
00:30:33.900 do something
00:30:34.380 but
00:30:36.880 so the
00:30:38.540 long answer
00:30:39.240 to the question
00:30:39.600 is
00:30:39.840 in a situation
00:30:41.040 where we
00:30:41.520 can't trust
00:30:42.200 our government
00:30:42.800 to do the
00:30:43.380 right thing
00:30:43.920 because their
00:30:44.860 incentives are
00:30:45.580 wrong
00:30:45.900 their incentives
00:30:47.160 is to not
00:30:48.140 kill anybody
00:30:48.820 and have that 1.00
00:30:49.480 on their resume
00:30:50.080 your incentive
00:30:51.300 as a citizen
00:30:52.020 is to do
00:30:52.720 what's better
00:30:53.220 for the greater
00:30:53.820 good
00:30:54.240 and for yourself
00:30:55.420 of course
00:30:55.940 but you have
00:30:57.320 a different
00:30:57.640 incentive
00:30:58.040 so you
00:30:59.660 need the
00:31:00.140 public
00:31:00.400 to be able
00:31:00.920 to be
00:31:01.180 the boss
00:31:01.800 and to
00:31:02.840 push our
00:31:03.640 leaders
00:31:03.940 to do
00:31:04.320 what they
00:31:04.600 need to
00:31:04.900 do
00:31:05.080 as we
00:31:05.520 did
00:31:05.680 with the
00:31:05.940 face masks
00:31:06.560 now
00:31:07.580 with the
00:31:08.560 face masks
00:31:09.240 we didn't
00:31:10.200 need to be
00:31:10.820 told too
00:31:11.400 much extra
00:31:12.040 information
00:31:12.600 because it
00:31:13.420 was just
00:31:13.720 obvious that
00:31:14.520 they were
00:31:14.760 lying
00:31:15.120 but with
00:31:16.780 the hydroxychloroquine
00:31:18.200 it's not
00:31:19.260 obvious to me
00:31:20.220 what's a lie
00:31:21.180 and what's
00:31:22.540 just a genuine
00:31:23.740 shortage
00:31:24.240 and managing
00:31:25.240 hoarding
00:31:25.720 and all
00:31:26.000 that stuff
00:31:26.420 so without
00:31:27.260 that information
00:31:27.960 we don't
00:31:28.520 know how
00:31:28.900 to be
00:31:29.160 the boss
00:31:29.700 and unfortunately
00:31:30.900 we have to
00:31:31.640 be the boss
00:31:32.240 because the
00:31:33.340 people who
00:31:33.740 got the
00:31:34.100 job of the
00:31:34.680 boss
00:31:34.940 can't do
00:31:35.380 it
00:31:35.600 under these
00:31:36.620 conditions
00:31:37.040 they can't
00:31:37.560 operate
00:31:37.920 they don't
00:31:38.680 have the
00:31:38.940 right incentive
00:31:39.640 and I don't
00:31:40.620 see that
00:31:40.940 changing
00:31:41.300 so you're
00:31:41.840 going to
00:31:41.900 have to
00:31:42.120 take
00:31:42.280 control
00:31:42.700 probably
00:31:44.580 here's some
00:31:47.820 good news
00:31:48.420 this whole
00:31:50.480 situation of
00:31:51.440 trying to
00:31:51.840 get these
00:31:52.600 supplies
00:31:53.220 is proving
00:31:55.100 to us
00:31:55.660 that
00:31:56.300 competition
00:31:57.920 and price
00:31:59.180 transparency
00:31:59.900 is probably
00:32:00.580 the only
00:32:01.060 thing that's
00:32:01.540 ever going
00:32:01.880 to fix
00:32:02.240 healthcare
00:32:02.680 so when
00:32:04.660 you see
00:32:04.940 all the
00:32:05.220 price
00:32:05.480 gouging
00:32:06.100 and people
00:32:07.120 just
00:32:07.440 you can't
00:32:08.040 even find
00:32:08.580 the supply
00:32:09.160 they don't
00:32:10.100 know who's
00:32:10.440 lying
00:32:11.080 it's three
00:32:12.020 levels of
00:32:12.700 distributors
00:32:13.440 and middlemen
00:32:14.120 if you're
00:32:15.040 talking to
00:32:15.440 the main
00:32:15.780 company
00:32:16.200 they don't
00:32:17.000 even know
00:32:17.380 where their
00:32:17.680 supply is
00:32:18.440 because it
00:32:18.760 went out
00:32:19.060 to the
00:32:19.360 distributors
00:32:19.960 so you
00:32:21.340 can see
00:32:21.700 from just
00:32:22.480 the PPE
00:32:23.160 situation
00:32:23.800 that the
00:32:25.120 healthcare
00:32:25.500 market
00:32:25.960 is just
00:32:26.620 a complete
00:32:27.160 blind spot
00:32:28.040 there's
00:32:29.040 nobody
00:32:29.380 from any
00:32:29.960 vantage point
00:32:30.660 who can
00:32:31.020 look at
00:32:31.360 it and
00:32:31.500 say
00:32:31.600 oh
00:32:31.860 we've
00:32:32.660 got this
00:32:33.080 much
00:32:33.320 of this
00:32:33.820 and it
00:32:34.100 costs
00:32:34.400 this much
00:32:34.980 and this
00:32:36.040 person's
00:32:36.780 selling
00:32:37.060 at a
00:32:38.060 little
00:32:38.180 lower
00:32:38.620 maybe that
00:32:39.260 can lower
00:32:39.560 the price
00:32:39.940 so there's
00:32:40.840 no visibility
00:32:41.600 and this
00:32:43.040 is being
00:32:43.380 brought home
00:32:43.820 to us
00:32:44.120 with this
00:32:44.460 emergency
00:32:44.900 but the
00:32:45.940 good news
00:32:46.320 is I
00:32:47.960 think we
00:32:48.320 could fix
00:32:48.740 healthcare
00:32:49.180 because if
00:32:51.280 you could
00:32:52.140 go directly
00:32:52.840 at this
00:32:53.300 lack of
00:32:53.800 transparency
00:32:54.520 and market
00:32:55.280 competition
00:32:55.860 I think
00:32:57.420 there are
00:32:57.740 gigantic
00:32:58.240 gains to
00:32:58.920 be made
00:32:59.300 I don't
00:32:59.640 think I
00:32:59.960 realized how
00:33:00.560 bad it
00:33:00.980 was until
00:33:02.060 the emergency
00:33:02.780 sort of
00:33:03.480 surfaced
00:33:04.000 the inefficiencies
00:33:04.980 there
00:33:05.300 here are
00:33:06.820 some of
00:33:07.020 the worst
00:33:07.500 things that
00:33:08.860 people are
00:33:09.260 saying about
00:33:09.800 coronavirus
00:33:10.500 so here's 0.98
00:33:11.880 the loser 0.99
00:33:12.520 think-ish 1.00
00:33:13.080 most loser 0.98
00:33:14.200 think-things 0.99
00:33:15.080 you can
00:33:15.340 say
00:33:15.640 so the
00:33:17.340 three of
00:33:17.740 them
00:33:17.980 the three
00:33:18.840 worst
00:33:19.400 takes
00:33:20.080 now I'm
00:33:21.900 not saying
00:33:22.300 I have
00:33:22.680 all the
00:33:22.960 right answers
00:33:23.540 but there
00:33:24.840 are some
00:33:25.240 times that
00:33:26.380 you can tell
00:33:26.880 what is
00:33:27.260 irrational
00:33:27.880 so here's
00:33:29.380 some of
00:33:29.600 irrational
00:33:30.000 points of
00:33:30.600 view
00:33:30.760 our
00:33:32.720 government
00:33:33.080 is only
00:33:33.480 pretending
00:33:34.080 to be 0.84
00:33:34.520 incompetent
00:33:35.320 and not
00:33:36.580 giving us
00:33:37.020 good
00:33:37.220 information
00:33:37.720 because
00:33:39.360 the real
00:33:40.360 plan is
00:33:41.000 evil genius
00:33:41.760 plan for
00:33:42.620 softening
00:33:43.780 us up
00:33:44.220 for the
00:33:44.560 coming
00:33:44.840 dictatorship
00:33:45.500 and that
00:33:46.820 really this
00:33:47.500 is all
00:33:47.840 some kind
00:33:48.220 of a
00:33:48.660 dress
00:33:49.380 rehearsal
00:33:50.040 and sort
00:33:51.500 of testing
00:33:52.080 to see if
00:33:53.320 they can make
00:33:53.820 the public
00:33:54.280 do anything
00:33:54.880 they want
00:33:55.740 just by
00:33:56.120 lying to
00:33:56.620 us or
00:33:57.080 telling us
00:33:57.780 to stay
00:33:58.120 home
00:33:58.400 now if
00:34:02.040 your
00:34:02.220 alternative
00:34:02.640 explanations
00:34:03.460 for what
00:34:04.080 you observe
00:34:04.560 are incredibly
00:34:06.560 clever
00:34:07.360 farsighted
00:34:09.940 genius
00:34:10.520 plan
00:34:11.140 or
00:34:13.440 incompetence
00:34:14.440 which
00:34:15.540 one is
00:34:15.840 the likely
00:34:16.380 one
00:34:16.760 because
00:34:18.600 incompetence
00:34:19.380 is basically
00:34:20.180 universal
00:34:20.920 incredibly
00:34:22.460 clever
00:34:23.140 plan to
00:34:23.800 take over
00:34:24.220 the world
00:34:24.780 that sees
00:34:25.400 years in
00:34:25.900 advance
00:34:26.400 not so
00:34:28.440 common
00:34:28.860 oh sure
00:34:29.980 I know a
00:34:30.440 few people
00:34:30.860 are working
00:34:31.320 on it
00:34:31.700 but it's
00:34:32.460 not very
00:34:32.800 common
00:34:33.240 so if
00:34:34.280 you're going
00:34:34.480 to bet
00:34:34.740 on it
00:34:35.020 I wouldn't
00:34:35.320 bet on
00:34:35.640 that
00:34:35.980 here's
00:34:36.880 another
00:34:37.120 bad
00:34:37.480 take
00:34:37.920 that
00:34:40.140 China
00:34:40.480 intentionally
00:34:41.060 released
00:34:41.620 a
00:34:41.840 weapon
00:34:42.080 of
00:34:42.280 mass
00:34:42.600 destruction
00:34:43.200 in the
00:34:44.180 middle
00:34:44.420 of one
00:34:44.820 of their
00:34:45.040 most
00:34:45.260 populated
00:34:46.020 centers
00:34:46.620 as their
00:34:48.120 way to
00:34:48.540 weaken
00:34:48.820 the United
00:34:49.300 States
00:34:49.840 how exactly
00:34:51.720 did that
00:34:52.160 meeting go
00:34:52.800 you know
00:34:53.820 were the
00:34:54.440 Chinese
00:34:54.840 sitting
00:34:55.140 around
00:34:55.520 in their
00:34:55.840 big
00:34:56.140 leadership
00:34:57.660 meeting
00:34:58.160 and somebody
00:34:58.580 said
00:34:58.820 I got
00:34:59.400 an idea
00:34:59.860 if you
00:35:01.220 really want
00:35:01.720 to hurt
00:35:01.980 America
00:35:02.420 here's how
00:35:02.960 you do
00:35:03.240 it
00:35:03.460 we'll
00:35:04.060 create
00:35:04.400 this
00:35:04.700 awful
00:35:05.740 virus
00:35:06.260 and then
00:35:07.440 we'll
00:35:07.700 release
00:35:08.140 it
00:35:08.360 in the
00:35:08.720 middle
00:35:08.960 of our
00:35:09.600 population
00:35:10.420 center
00:35:10.840 in the
00:35:11.200 middle
00:35:11.400 of
00:35:11.580 China
00:35:11.880 and then
00:35:13.780 one of
00:35:14.020 the other
00:35:14.280 leaders
00:35:14.620 would say
00:35:15.020 can you
00:35:17.260 connect the
00:35:17.800 dots here
00:35:18.360 because I'm
00:35:19.320 not seeing
00:35:19.760 how releasing
00:35:20.460 a weapon
00:35:20.900 of mass
00:35:21.300 destruction
00:35:21.820 in the
00:35:22.220 middle
00:35:22.400 of our
00:35:22.700 own
00:35:22.900 territory
00:35:23.380 gets us
00:35:24.760 to that
00:35:25.320 good place
00:35:25.900 you're
00:35:26.100 talking
00:35:26.340 about
00:35:26.680 let me
00:35:27.640 explain
00:35:27.980 we'll
00:35:29.420 release
00:35:29.760 it in
00:35:30.060 Wuhan
00:35:30.340 we'll
00:35:31.760 yeah
00:35:32.060 sure
00:35:32.320 we might 1.00
00:35:32.720 kill 0.99
00:35:32.920 300,000 1.00
00:35:33.640 people
00:35:33.980 but we'll
00:35:34.440 keep it
00:35:34.780 secret
00:35:35.060 and it
00:35:36.620 will
00:35:36.740 spread
00:35:37.140 and then
00:35:38.280 the United
00:35:38.680 States
00:35:39.080 will shut
00:35:39.580 down
00:35:39.800 its economy
00:35:40.380 but we
00:35:40.920 won't
00:35:41.280 because we
00:35:41.640 don't care
00:35:42.060 about our
00:35:42.360 people and
00:35:42.860 we're not
00:35:43.260 reporting on
00:35:43.820 the deaths
00:35:44.140 anyway
00:35:44.460 and then
00:35:45.640 we'll keep
00:35:46.100 growing
00:35:46.480 while the
00:35:47.760 United States
00:35:48.720 destroys itself
00:35:50.040 with their 0.98
00:35:50.700 silliness 0.95
00:35:51.240 do you think
00:35:53.580 that conversation
00:35:54.340 happened
00:35:54.780 I don't think
00:35:56.340 so
00:35:56.580 I think that
00:35:57.920 as soon as
00:35:58.580 you
00:35:58.800 as soon as
00:36:00.060 someone in the
00:36:00.740 meeting says
00:36:01.360 hey
00:36:01.980 I've got
00:36:02.360 an idea
00:36:02.800 we'll
00:36:03.220 release a
00:36:03.740 weapon of
00:36:04.140 mass
00:36:04.360 destruction
00:36:04.840 in our
00:36:05.200 own
00:36:05.520 territory
00:36:05.960 and we'll
00:36:06.640 put it
00:36:06.880 right in
00:36:07.100 the middle
00:36:07.400 we won't
00:36:09.100 even put it
00:36:09.600 at a
00:36:09.900 port
00:36:11.860 and we'll
00:36:13.140 put it
00:36:13.440 right in
00:36:13.700 the middle
00:36:14.080 of the
00:36:14.300 country
00:36:14.520 a major
00:36:15.100 scene
00:36:15.760 as soon as
00:36:16.760 somebody
00:36:17.080 suggests that
00:36:18.360 that's kind
00:36:19.000 of the end
00:36:19.500 of you at
00:36:20.020 the meeting
00:36:20.380 right
00:36:20.660 don't you
00:36:21.640 say
00:36:21.880 thanks Bob
00:36:22.960 you can
00:36:23.920 go now
00:36:24.440 here's the
00:36:25.620 other bad
00:36:26.200 take
00:36:26.560 is that
00:36:29.320 the hospitals
00:36:30.360 are I
00:36:31.120 think 90%
00:36:31.940 of the
00:36:32.160 hospitals are
00:36:32.840 just so
00:36:33.260 empty
00:36:33.500 they're sending
00:36:33.960 people home
00:36:34.600 and that
00:36:35.800 therefore that
00:36:36.500 proves that
00:36:37.420 it was all
00:36:39.020 a hoax
00:36:39.500 that's a
00:36:41.460 really bad
00:36:42.060 take
00:36:42.480 because the
00:36:44.280 hospitals are
00:36:44.960 empty in
00:36:46.140 anticipation of
00:36:47.180 an upcoming
00:36:47.680 surge that
00:36:48.940 isn't here
00:36:49.400 yet
00:36:49.720 of course
00:36:51.120 they're getting
00:36:51.600 ready for the
00:36:52.260 surge
00:36:52.620 of course
00:36:54.160 they're empty
00:36:54.760 the week before
00:36:55.560 the surge
00:36:56.100 because they
00:36:56.680 don't know
00:36:56.960 exactly when
00:36:57.600 it's going
00:36:57.860 to start
00:36:58.300 and they
00:37:00.040 don't want
00:37:00.860 to get a
00:37:01.140 bunch of
00:37:01.440 elective
00:37:01.920 surgeries
00:37:02.440 in the
00:37:02.980 pipeline
00:37:03.440 where you
00:37:04.300 have to
00:37:04.580 follow up
00:37:05.400 and make
00:37:05.980 sure the
00:37:06.340 stitches
00:37:06.660 are out
00:37:07.060 and all
00:37:07.260 that
00:37:07.520 so if
00:37:08.980 everything
00:37:09.340 is working
00:37:09.860 the way
00:37:10.180 it should
00:37:10.720 and people
00:37:11.860 are getting
00:37:12.200 ready for
00:37:12.640 the surge
00:37:13.200 90% of
00:37:14.640 the hospitals
00:37:15.200 should have
00:37:15.860 no work
00:37:16.440 that's if
00:37:18.100 you're doing
00:37:18.400 everything
00:37:18.680 right
00:37:19.120 this week
00:37:20.400 they should
00:37:20.780 all be
00:37:21.060 empty
00:37:21.360 getting ready
00:37:22.780 now if
00:37:24.000 the surge
00:37:24.480 doesn't come
00:37:25.320 well there's
00:37:26.560 your two
00:37:26.880 movies
00:37:27.320 because half
00:37:28.500 of the country
00:37:28.940 will say
00:37:29.360 well that's
00:37:29.760 because of
00:37:30.140 our mitigation
00:37:30.740 I guess we
00:37:31.300 did a good
00:37:31.740 job
00:37:32.080 and half
00:37:32.900 of the country
00:37:33.320 will say
00:37:33.660 I told you
00:37:34.160 it was a
00:37:34.460 hoax
00:37:34.720 no surge
00:37:36.380 all right
00:37:38.400 here's some
00:37:41.660 things I've
00:37:42.340 learned about
00:37:43.040 why it's
00:37:43.800 so hard
00:37:44.260 to get
00:37:44.760 masks
00:37:45.920 so here's
00:37:49.280 some things
00:37:49.840 that I have
00:37:51.580 some pretty
00:37:51.940 good information
00:37:52.520 on from
00:37:53.080 good source
00:37:54.060 who shall
00:37:54.540 remain anonymous
00:37:55.220 so apparently
00:37:57.080 what happened
00:37:57.620 is that early
00:37:58.480 on when
00:37:59.320 smart people
00:38:00.600 realized that
00:38:01.440 masks were
00:38:02.300 going to be
00:38:02.800 in great
00:38:03.180 demand
00:38:03.620 these smart
00:38:05.360 people
00:38:05.760 bought them
00:38:07.000 all
00:38:07.240 now I'm
00:38:08.340 talking about
00:38:08.800 not just
00:38:09.280 individuals
00:38:09.820 but I'm
00:38:10.440 talking about
00:38:10.880 distributors
00:38:11.700 you know
00:38:12.320 would put in
00:38:12.780 a big order
00:38:13.320 and then
00:38:14.920 maybe some
00:38:15.400 rich people
00:38:15.940 also buying
00:38:16.940 from the
00:38:17.340 distributors
00:38:17.860 and a bunch
00:38:18.920 of foreign
00:38:19.340 countries
00:38:19.740 buying from
00:38:20.300 them as
00:38:20.660 well
00:38:20.860 so if
00:38:22.200 you're to
00:38:22.460 look at
00:38:22.760 the big
00:38:23.200 makers
00:38:24.060 of masks
00:38:25.020 and say
00:38:26.040 hey
00:38:26.400 give us
00:38:27.660 some face
00:38:28.020 masks
00:38:28.460 the big
00:38:29.660 manufacturer
00:38:30.540 of face
00:38:31.180 masks
00:38:31.520 will say
00:38:32.500 we don't
00:38:33.380 do that
00:38:33.920 because they
00:38:35.060 don't
00:38:35.440 they make
00:38:36.700 it
00:38:36.980 and then
00:38:38.140 they provide
00:38:38.780 it to
00:38:39.140 people who
00:38:39.620 have placed
00:38:39.960 orders
00:38:40.320 who are
00:38:40.640 their
00:38:40.840 distributors
00:38:41.440 and then
00:38:42.460 the distributors
00:38:43.200 who are
00:38:44.220 in other
00:38:44.700 countries
00:38:45.240 you know
00:38:45.900 we don't
00:38:46.220 control
00:38:46.560 them
00:38:46.820 then they
00:38:48.040 apparently
00:38:48.960 jack up
00:38:49.540 the price
00:38:50.000 to
00:38:50.360 robbery
00:38:51.500 levels
00:38:52.600 that the
00:38:53.320 United States
00:38:53.960 will not
00:38:54.380 pay
00:38:54.640 so the
00:38:55.540 basic
00:38:55.800 problem
00:38:56.080 is that
00:38:56.400 the United
00:38:56.800 States
00:38:57.180 is saying
00:38:57.600 we'll
00:38:57.960 pay this
00:38:58.460 much
00:38:58.820 which is
00:38:59.480 more than
00:39:00.320 fair
00:39:00.680 it's above
00:39:01.660 market
00:39:02.140 but we're
00:39:03.220 not going
00:39:03.540 to pay
00:39:03.840 this much
00:39:04.760 guess what
00:39:06.260 the price
00:39:06.740 is
00:39:07.080 it's not
00:39:08.340 this much
00:39:08.960 it's this
00:39:10.100 much
00:39:10.480 guess what
00:39:11.780 other countries
00:39:12.860 are willing
00:39:13.320 to pay
00:39:13.840 it's not
00:39:14.880 this much
00:39:15.560 it's this
00:39:16.660 much
00:39:17.060 and they're
00:39:17.700 not even
00:39:18.040 close
00:39:18.580 right
00:39:19.220 they're
00:39:19.400 not in
00:39:19.860 the same
00:39:20.120 ballpark
00:39:20.700 the
00:39:21.620 emergency
00:39:22.920 pricing
00:39:23.740 the price
00:39:24.520 gouging
00:39:25.040 price
00:39:25.460 is something
00:39:26.780 like triple
00:39:27.520 what the
00:39:28.560 United States
00:39:29.120 is willing
00:39:29.540 to pay
00:39:29.960 now you
00:39:30.820 might say
00:39:31.140 to yourself
00:39:31.520 well we
00:39:32.360 should just
00:39:32.680 pay it
00:39:33.140 because the
00:39:34.540 price of
00:39:35.180 not paying
00:39:35.820 it would
00:39:36.360 be greater
00:39:36.800 than the
00:39:37.180 price of
00:39:37.560 paying it
00:39:38.180 except
00:39:39.420 we're such
00:39:41.020 a big
00:39:41.320 country
00:39:41.760 that if
00:39:42.840 we pay
00:39:43.340 the inflated
00:39:44.000 price
00:39:44.420 what's going
00:39:44.860 to happen
00:39:45.280 those of
00:39:47.320 you with
00:39:47.700 economics
00:39:48.200 degrees
00:39:48.600 please fill
00:39:49.360 in the
00:39:49.580 blank
00:39:49.900 if the
00:39:51.060 United States
00:39:51.720 doesn't hold
00:39:52.440 firm at the
00:39:53.420 lower price
00:39:54.100 and we
00:39:54.920 go up
00:39:55.300 to the
00:39:55.540 market
00:39:55.780 price
00:39:56.200 which is
00:39:56.640 triple
00:39:56.980 what happens
00:39:58.160 the day
00:39:58.520 we do
00:39:58.900 that
00:39:59.240 price
00:40:01.240 goes up
00:40:01.620 again
00:40:01.880 because we
00:40:03.000 would bid
00:40:03.340 the price
00:40:03.700 up
00:40:03.960 we're a
00:40:04.460 big enough
00:40:04.800 buyer
00:40:05.100 that we
00:40:05.500 would change
00:40:05.960 the market
00:40:06.420 situation
00:40:07.000 and then
00:40:08.060 what happens
00:40:08.520 to
00:40:09.240 China
00:40:10.000 does China
00:40:11.480 then say
00:40:12.600 well I guess
00:40:13.160 we can't
00:40:13.540 buy any
00:40:13.940 masks
00:40:14.460 nope
00:40:15.460 China comes 0.98
00:40:16.660 in and says 1.00
00:40:17.120 damn it 0.99
00:40:17.500 I guess 0.99
00:40:17.860 we've got
00:40:18.120 to pay
00:40:18.360 the quadruple
00:40:19.220 price
00:40:19.660 then what
00:40:20.780 does the
00:40:21.040 United States
00:40:21.620 do
00:40:21.880 say well
00:40:22.440 we were
00:40:23.340 only willing
00:40:23.880 to pay
00:40:24.300 triple
00:40:24.780 but we're
00:40:25.340 not willing
00:40:25.920 to pay
00:40:26.240 quadruple
00:40:26.780 no
00:40:27.080 because we
00:40:27.820 don't get
00:40:28.140 any masks
00:40:28.720 so we have
00:40:29.780 to go up
00:40:30.100 to quadruple
00:40:30.700 what happens
00:40:31.160 the day you
00:40:31.540 go up to
00:40:31.900 quadruple
00:40:32.360 goes up
00:40:33.840 to five
00:40:34.220 times
00:40:34.640 so you
00:40:36.940 can't pay
00:40:37.460 for it
00:40:37.960 and get to
00:40:39.180 a good
00:40:39.420 result
00:40:39.860 because paying
00:40:40.680 for it
00:40:41.100 you know
00:40:41.600 paying the
00:40:41.940 higher prices
00:40:42.420 changes the
00:40:43.100 market
00:40:43.380 in a bad
00:40:44.280 way
00:40:44.540 and you
00:40:45.500 can't
00:40:45.800 not pay
00:40:46.260 for it
00:40:46.740 because then
00:40:48.420 you don't
00:40:48.680 get them
00:40:49.040 so what
00:40:51.000 are your
00:40:51.480 options
00:40:51.880 if you
00:40:52.860 can't
00:40:53.180 pay
00:40:53.380 for it
00:40:53.860 and you
00:40:55.120 can't
00:40:55.360 not
00:40:55.540 pay
00:40:55.720 for it
00:40:56.180 and those
00:40:57.400 are your
00:40:57.620 only options
00:40:58.180 what do you
00:40:58.500 do
00:40:58.760 well you
00:40:59.220 do what
00:40:59.480 you do
00:40:59.720 now
00:41:00.040 which is
00:41:00.860 you do
00:41:01.100 the best
00:41:01.440 you can
00:41:01.860 you
00:41:02.120 try pushing
00:41:04.260 every button
00:41:04.860 every lever
00:41:05.660 every look
00:41:07.240 under every
00:41:07.760 rock
00:41:08.220 you just
00:41:08.960 you know
00:41:10.280 you just
00:41:10.680 do everything
00:41:11.940 you can
00:41:12.480 and that's
00:41:13.400 sort of
00:41:13.620 what's
00:41:13.820 happening
00:41:14.160 there's a
00:41:14.980 whole
00:41:15.300 Mad Max
00:41:16.980 road warrior
00:41:17.800 thing happening
00:41:18.560 out there
00:41:19.020 I hear
00:41:19.980 quite
00:41:20.540 reliably
00:41:21.040 so there
00:41:21.920 are plenty
00:41:22.240 of frauds
00:41:22.920 in the
00:41:23.120 market
00:41:23.420 there
00:41:23.980 are plenty
00:41:24.880 of price
00:41:25.440 gougers
00:41:26.000 people in
00:41:26.900 different
00:41:27.160 countries
00:41:27.640 shadowy
00:41:28.460 people
00:41:28.760 lots of
00:41:29.320 middlemen
00:41:29.720 so there's
00:41:30.780 absolutely
00:41:31.200 no visibility
00:41:32.380 in the
00:41:34.520 mask
00:41:34.920 market
00:41:35.520 between the
00:41:36.960 buyer
00:41:37.320 and the
00:41:38.840 supply
00:41:39.240 the buyer
00:41:41.000 can never
00:41:41.720 talk
00:41:42.160 to the
00:41:43.160 supplier
00:41:43.580 they have
00:41:44.560 no
00:41:44.760 conversation
00:41:45.380 the only
00:41:46.760 way that
00:41:47.140 a buyer
00:41:47.520 and a
00:41:47.800 supplier
00:41:48.100 can have
00:41:48.500 a conversation
00:41:49.200 is through
00:41:50.180 several
00:41:50.640 levels of
00:41:52.000 middle people
00:41:52.740 often in
00:41:54.420 other countries
00:41:55.120 who are not
00:41:56.300 credible
00:41:56.720 and they're
00:41:57.860 not trying
00:41:58.800 to make a
00:41:59.280 good deal
00:41:59.660 they're just 0.98
00:42:00.520 criminals 0.89
00:42:00.940 basically
00:42:01.400 so here's
00:42:02.680 the situation
00:42:03.260 you kind of
00:42:03.980 can't get
00:42:04.420 there from
00:42:04.900 here
00:42:05.240 in the
00:42:06.040 short run
00:42:06.500 so in the
00:42:07.700 short run
00:42:08.220 unless you
00:42:08.900 went in
00:42:09.220 with weapons
00:42:09.880 and actually
00:42:11.380 just stole
00:42:11.960 them
00:42:12.240 you actually
00:42:13.360 couldn't get
00:42:13.800 them
00:42:14.020 I don't know
00:42:15.060 the details
00:42:15.860 of the
00:42:16.540 some story
00:42:17.400 about some
00:42:18.880 masks were
00:42:19.500 being delivered
00:42:20.060 to Germany
00:42:20.700 and the
00:42:21.740 United States
00:42:22.340 basically just
00:42:23.160 stole them
00:42:23.760 well if you
00:42:25.220 hear that story
00:42:25.760 out of context
00:42:26.540 you'd say to
00:42:27.060 yourself
00:42:27.340 are you
00:42:27.640 kidding me
00:42:28.120 the United
00:42:29.180 States just
00:42:29.740 stole a
00:42:31.380 shipment
00:42:32.060 that was
00:42:33.740 already bought
00:42:34.400 and designated
00:42:34.960 for another
00:42:35.500 country that's
00:42:36.280 our ally
00:42:36.880 did that
00:42:37.800 really happen
00:42:38.340 well I don't
00:42:38.920 know if that
00:42:39.260 really happened
00:42:39.740 you know
00:42:40.040 these stories
00:42:40.580 you can't
00:42:41.460 trust anything
00:42:42.000 right now
00:42:42.480 but I will
00:42:43.520 tell you
00:42:43.960 that that
00:42:45.080 story
00:42:45.560 describes the
00:42:47.220 normal situation
00:42:48.320 so let me
00:42:49.940 tell you
00:42:50.320 it seems
00:42:51.040 that if any
00:42:52.420 country has a
00:42:53.220 chance
00:42:53.640 to steal
00:42:55.200 masks
00:42:55.820 they're going
00:42:56.740 to do it
00:42:57.260 because all
00:42:58.120 the rules
00:42:58.800 are gone
00:42:59.320 it's just
00:43:00.600 the wild
00:43:00.980 west out
00:43:01.440 there
00:43:01.660 so yeah
00:43:03.100 so Mike
00:43:03.720 Lindell is
00:43:04.400 trying to
00:43:04.700 make them
00:43:05.000 in the
00:43:05.220 United States
00:43:05.720 but what
00:43:06.040 do you
00:43:06.180 think he's
00:43:06.520 going to
00:43:06.760 charge for
00:43:07.260 them
00:43:07.480 because the
00:43:08.920 price to
00:43:09.360 make them
00:43:09.720 in the
00:43:09.920 United States
00:43:10.500 is not
00:43:10.940 going to
00:43:11.080 be anywhere
00:43:11.520 near the
00:43:13.060 price of
00:43:13.520 making them
00:43:14.000 overseas
00:43:14.440 so Mike
00:43:15.800 Lindell will
00:43:16.460 probably create
00:43:17.580 supply and it
00:43:19.260 will probably be
00:43:19.860 dedicated to the
00:43:20.520 United States
00:43:21.040 and that's
00:43:21.380 great but it's
00:43:22.860 not going to be
00:43:23.300 cheap but still
00:43:25.140 at least we can
00:43:25.820 get it and
00:43:26.560 if you buy it
00:43:28.140 you know at his
00:43:29.700 prices he's
00:43:30.360 probably not going
00:43:30.920 to create an
00:43:32.520 auction or a
00:43:33.220 price war
00:43:33.620 so Mike
00:43:34.720 Lindell is
00:43:35.800 probably the
00:43:37.960 you know at
00:43:38.800 least part of the
00:43:39.480 answer all
00:43:42.520 right
00:43:42.740 what else we
00:43:46.140 got going on
00:43:46.720 here
00:43:47.420 just looking at
00:43:53.420 my notes
00:43:53.980 what would you
00:43:56.640 say the odds
00:43:57.620 of hydroxychloroquine
00:43:59.220 working I
00:44:00.820 would love to
00:44:01.260 see your
00:44:01.620 comments I'll
00:44:02.840 give you my
00:44:03.340 estimate in a
00:44:04.000 minute so
00:44:05.540 we're all aware
00:44:07.200 of the hydroxychloroquine
00:44:08.380 situation
00:44:09.240 the situation
00:44:10.380 is that there
00:44:11.460 are not
00:44:12.000 there are no
00:44:13.780 highly reliable
00:44:14.700 studies of
00:44:15.940 the type that
00:44:16.740 would be the
00:44:17.100 gold standard
00:44:17.700 for studies
00:44:18.280 there's only
00:44:20.160 anecdotal and
00:44:21.200 small studies
00:44:21.980 that have
00:44:22.280 problems
00:44:22.740 if you were to
00:44:24.480 put a percentage
00:44:25.240 odds that the
00:44:26.880 hydroxychloroquine
00:44:28.040 works in a
00:44:29.900 way that's
00:44:30.620 substantial it
00:44:31.380 doesn't have to
00:44:31.900 be like a 0.54
00:44:32.580 miracle drug
00:44:33.260 but just say it
00:44:33.980 works in a way
00:44:34.560 that's substantial
00:44:35.980 and really
00:44:36.580 really moves
00:44:37.420 the ball
00:44:39.060 what percentage
00:44:40.980 odds do you
00:44:41.680 think that
00:44:42.040 that's true
00:44:42.780 give me your
00:44:44.360 odds in the
00:44:45.140 comments
00:44:45.640 the odds
00:44:46.580 that the
00:44:46.980 hydroxychloroquine
00:44:47.940 is a substantial
00:44:49.120 and useful
00:44:50.780 medicine for
00:44:52.580 this
00:44:52.860 give it to me
00:44:53.920 as a percentage
00:44:54.520 so I'm going to
00:44:55.960 read them off
00:44:56.480 I see 65
00:44:57.420 95
00:44:58.200 1000
00:44:59.920 100%
00:45:00.760 80%
00:45:01.460 80%
00:45:02.140 80%
00:45:02.720 75
00:45:03.400 high
00:45:05.120 70
00:45:05.780 75
00:45:06.600 this is really
00:45:07.700 interesting
00:45:08.100 because you can
00:45:09.100 see that the
00:45:09.600 answers are
00:45:10.180 converging
00:45:11.000 in that
00:45:12.380 75
00:45:13.000 80%
00:45:13.960 range
00:45:14.460 if you have
00:45:15.340 some people
00:45:15.780 who are willing
00:45:16.180 to say 100%
00:45:17.160 the people who
00:45:18.460 are saying 100%
00:45:19.420 you should never
00:45:20.140 talk in public
00:45:20.820 again
00:45:21.220 if you're
00:45:24.680 estimating that
00:45:25.340 the odds of
00:45:25.980 the hydroxychloroquine
00:45:27.380 working are
00:45:28.840 100%
00:45:29.580 you should never
00:45:31.140 talk in public
00:45:31.820 again
00:45:32.180 because it's not
00:45:33.480 helping you
00:45:34.140 you know
00:45:35.760 somebody says
00:45:37.220 99.8%
00:45:38.680 you know
00:45:40.420 I'll let you
00:45:41.320 have that
00:45:41.800 I'll let you
00:45:42.540 have 99.8%
00:45:43.560 but if you're
00:45:43.920 saying 100%
00:45:44.720 you should never
00:45:45.820 talk in public
00:45:46.460 again
00:45:46.860 I think that
00:45:49.700 stopped
00:45:50.020 well
00:45:50.320 okay there's
00:45:51.100 another 100%
00:45:51.920 apparently I'm
00:45:53.400 not influencing
00:45:54.000 people or
00:45:54.580 there's a
00:45:54.940 time lag
00:45:55.440 so I'm
00:45:57.020 seeing a lot
00:45:57.420 of 80%
00:45:57.980 if I had
00:45:59.120 to just
00:45:59.760 sort of
00:46:00.140 mentally do
00:46:01.060 an average
00:46:01.520 just watching
00:46:02.200 the numbers
00:46:02.680 go by
00:46:03.020 it looks
00:46:03.940 like it's
00:46:04.360 somewhere in
00:46:04.800 the high
00:46:06.000 70s or
00:46:06.680 80%
00:46:07.160 let me give
00:46:08.040 you my
00:46:08.620 estimate
00:46:09.820 60%
00:46:11.580 so I'm
00:46:13.660 on the low
00:46:14.640 end
00:46:14.980 compared to
00:46:15.800 you
00:46:16.000 so I
00:46:17.060 go 60%
00:46:18.120 and the
00:46:18.840 reason that
00:46:19.340 I'm lower
00:46:19.780 than most
00:46:20.240 of you
00:46:20.580 is that
00:46:21.560 I probably
00:46:22.460 have spent
00:46:23.020 more time
00:46:23.880 looking at
00:46:25.420 the unreliability
00:46:26.400 of early
00:46:27.100 studies
00:46:27.640 something like
00:46:29.400 half of all
00:46:30.060 studies that
00:46:30.760 get peer
00:46:31.380 reviewed
00:46:31.760 turn out
00:46:32.240 not to be
00:46:32.840 true
00:46:33.260 they don't
00:46:33.700 hold up
00:46:34.480 in overtime
00:46:34.980 so if you
00:46:36.160 didn't know
00:46:36.540 that
00:46:37.040 if you
00:46:38.980 said to
00:46:39.280 yourself
00:46:39.540 well
00:46:40.020 I think
00:46:40.580 doctors are
00:46:41.160 usually
00:46:41.820 right
00:46:42.420 when they
00:46:43.600 see clear
00:46:44.420 patterns like
00:46:45.080 this
00:46:45.280 they're usually
00:46:45.960 right
00:46:46.340 so I'm
00:46:46.640 going to say
00:46:46.960 it's 80%
00:46:47.540 chance
00:46:47.860 to write
00:46:48.280 I don't
00:46:49.360 know that's
00:46:49.840 true
00:46:50.100 I think
00:46:52.300 I think
00:46:53.020 when you
00:46:53.340 have this
00:46:53.980 level of
00:46:54.580 information
00:46:55.140 that the
00:46:56.400 odds of
00:46:56.880 hydroxychloroquine
00:46:57.820 working in a
00:46:58.740 significant way
00:46:59.600 and again
00:47:00.380 without terrible
00:47:01.420 side effects
00:47:02.060 I'd give it
00:47:03.220 60%
00:47:04.080 solid 60%
00:47:06.860 based on
00:47:08.120 anecdote
00:47:08.560 and you
00:47:09.840 know doctor
00:47:10.260 opinion and
00:47:10.900 all that
00:47:11.300 but the
00:47:12.640 odds of it
00:47:13.280 not working
00:47:14.260 at all
00:47:14.800 solid 40%
00:47:17.520 in my
00:47:19.220 opinion
00:47:19.800 all right
00:47:20.640 so I see
00:47:21.060 you have
00:47:21.320 many different
00:47:21.880 opinions on
00:47:22.420 that
00:47:22.880 here's the
00:47:25.360 other
00:47:25.660 warning
00:47:26.720 I was just
00:47:27.880 reading about
00:47:28.340 a test
00:47:28.820 where somebody
00:47:29.420 tested the
00:47:30.280 hydroxychloroquine
00:47:31.780 and didn't
00:47:33.460 seem to have
00:47:33.980 that much
00:47:34.460 of an effect
00:47:35.180 but then you
00:47:36.540 look at the
00:47:36.940 details
00:47:37.400 and it seems
00:47:38.260 that where
00:47:39.640 it works
00:47:40.380 reportedly
00:47:41.700 but not
00:47:42.640 in a
00:47:43.200 clinically
00:47:43.600 statistically
00:47:45.200 convincing
00:47:46.340 way
00:47:46.720 where it's
00:47:47.620 reported to
00:47:48.220 work
00:47:48.440 they're
00:47:48.720 pairing it
00:47:49.200 with zinc
00:47:49.680 so that
00:47:50.540 seems to
00:47:50.980 be the
00:47:51.240 magic
00:47:51.660 comparison
00:47:53.020 so when
00:47:53.980 you're seeing
00:47:54.300 the studies
00:47:54.980 that purport
00:47:57.240 to study
00:47:58.000 the hydroxychloroquine
00:47:59.340 make sure
00:48:00.340 that they're
00:48:00.760 also studying
00:48:01.560 it in
00:48:01.920 combination
00:48:02.420 with the
00:48:02.920 azithromycin
00:48:03.620 or at least
00:48:04.380 the zinc
00:48:04.940 because if
00:48:06.540 you're not
00:48:06.840 seeing them
00:48:07.480 studied as
00:48:08.280 a group
00:48:09.600 you probably
00:48:11.120 aren't getting
00:48:11.640 something useful
00:48:12.420 so that's
00:48:12.980 just a
00:48:13.400 little
00:48:13.700 warning
00:48:14.080 there
00:48:14.360 all right
00:48:17.500 that's our
00:48:20.620 situation
00:48:21.140 today
00:48:21.580 it will
00:48:25.380 help
00:48:25.620 60%
00:48:26.300 or 60%
00:48:27.240 chance
00:48:27.620 it will
00:48:27.840 work
00:48:28.100 to clarify
00:48:29.660 I'm saying
00:48:30.640 that in
00:48:31.000 my opinion
00:48:31.580 based on
00:48:32.420 what we
00:48:33.460 see
00:48:33.700 there's a
00:48:34.720 60%
00:48:35.460 chance
00:48:35.920 the drug
00:48:36.600 is effective
00:48:37.220 as opposed
00:48:38.700 to who
00:48:39.560 it would
00:48:39.800 help
00:48:40.020 individually
00:48:40.540 I'm not
00:48:40.880 talking about
00:48:41.360 that
00:48:41.620 I say
00:48:42.760 there's a
00:48:43.100 60%
00:48:43.620 chance
00:48:44.040 that it
00:48:44.360 would
00:48:44.460 help
00:48:44.760 most
00:48:45.780 people
00:48:46.180 so he
00:48:50.840 says
00:48:51.020 I knew
00:48:51.300 you'd
00:48:51.520 say that
00:48:52.000 you know
00:48:54.500 me well
00:48:55.060 you know
00:48:56.480 me well
00:48:57.120 yeah the
00:48:58.360 fact that
00:48:58.780 doctors are
00:48:59.480 taking it
00:49:00.100 doesn't mean
00:49:01.280 it's 100%
00:49:02.220 the fact that
00:49:03.100 doctors are
00:49:03.640 taking it
00:49:04.200 would mean
00:49:05.380 it could be
00:49:05.940 30% chance
00:49:07.500 of working
00:49:07.880 20%
00:49:09.320 if you were
00:49:10.340 taking a
00:49:10.740 drug that
00:49:11.140 didn't have
00:49:11.600 much in
00:49:12.000 the way
00:49:12.260 of side
00:49:12.860 effects
00:49:13.260 and it
00:49:14.160 gave you
00:49:14.700 you know
00:49:15.140 if you
00:49:15.560 thought
00:49:15.760 well
00:49:16.120 there's a
00:49:17.080 20%
00:49:17.600 chance
00:49:18.000 this could
00:49:18.380 save my
00:49:18.800 life
00:49:19.100 you'd
00:49:19.340 still
00:49:19.520 take it
00:49:20.000 a lot
00:49:20.820 of people
00:49:21.100 would
00:49:21.320 so the
00:49:22.840 fact that
00:49:23.400 doctors take
00:49:24.080 it is not
00:49:24.940 telling you
00:49:25.420 the odds
00:49:25.860 too much
00:49:26.320 it just
00:49:26.660 tells you
00:49:27.000 they're
00:49:27.180 greater than
00:49:27.640 zero
00:49:27.960 oh that's
00:49:31.800 true
00:49:32.060 in the
00:49:33.000 comment
00:49:33.240 somebody says
00:49:33.860 no one's
00:49:34.280 complained about
00:49:34.860 the audio
00:49:35.440 cutting out
00:49:36.100 in a long
00:49:36.580 time
00:49:36.920 yeah that's
00:49:37.520 true
00:49:37.720 it looks like
00:49:38.600 the reliability
00:49:40.000 of the audio
00:49:41.040 on periscope
00:49:41.800 has improved
00:49:42.400 hydroxychloroquine
00:49:50.180 transport zinc
00:49:51.400 past the cell
00:49:52.620 membrane
00:49:53.100 that sounds
00:49:53.680 right
00:49:53.960 that sounds
00:49:54.480 like something
00:49:54.900 I read
00:49:55.300 yeah we
00:50:00.340 haven't heard
00:50:00.800 if Boris
00:50:01.500 Johnson is
00:50:02.400 taking the
00:50:02.900 drug cocktail
00:50:03.560 do you think
00:50:04.420 there's any
00:50:04.900 chance that
00:50:05.440 Boris Johnson
00:50:06.080 is not
00:50:06.820 taking
00:50:07.260 the drug
00:50:08.560 and by
00:50:09.960 the way
00:50:10.240 the fact
00:50:11.380 that Boris
00:50:11.880 Johnson
00:50:12.300 who was
00:50:13.720 famous for
00:50:14.680 saying
00:50:15.020 go about
00:50:16.680 your business
00:50:17.180 at least
00:50:17.520 in the early
00:50:17.980 days
00:50:18.300 he was
00:50:19.400 sort of
00:50:19.780 well let's
00:50:20.440 just tough
00:50:20.860 it out
00:50:21.160 and then
00:50:22.140 he got it
00:50:22.740 and he got it
00:50:23.380 so bad
00:50:23.800 that he's
00:50:24.120 hospitalized
00:50:24.600 I don't
00:50:26.220 know how
00:50:26.500 you could
00:50:26.840 get reelected
00:50:27.660 after that
00:50:28.180 do you
00:50:28.560 I mean I
00:50:29.840 don't know
00:50:30.160 much about
00:50:30.780 you know
00:50:31.320 Great Britain
00:50:31.840 but do you
00:50:32.880 think Boris
00:50:33.380 Johnson
00:50:33.820 could get
00:50:35.040 reelected
00:50:35.980 after taking
00:50:37.360 a strong
00:50:37.940 stand against
00:50:39.540 the danger
00:50:40.080 of something
00:50:40.600 that put him
00:50:41.820 in the hospital
00:50:42.400 like a few
00:50:43.900 weeks later
00:50:44.400 that looks 0.89
00:50:45.960 so ridiculous 0.98
00:50:46.740 I just don't 0.98
00:50:47.580 know how
00:50:47.820 you could get
00:50:48.280 reelected
00:50:48.840 after that
00:50:49.220 happens
00:50:49.600 but hey
00:50:51.500 stranger things
00:50:52.300 have happened
00:50:52.700 all right
00:50:53.660 that's all I
00:50:54.120 got for now
00:50:54.580 and I will
00:50:55.100 talk to you
00:50:55.660 tonight
00:50:56.520 10 p.m.
00:50:57.420 Eastern
00:50:57.720 7 p.m.
00:51:00.060 Pacific
00:51:00.360 see you
00:51:01.980 then