Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 898 Scott Adams： How Many Grandmas Would You End to Get Back to Work？ Make Your Case

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00:01:03.780 Better than hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc all put together

00:01:15.360 doesn't equal one cup of coffee.

00:01:17.760 I have spoken.

00:01:19.440 That is my medical opinion.

00:01:21.160 Do not doubt my medical opinions.

00:01:22.760 All right.

00:01:27.760 So there's something called the Medical Supply Chain Act

00:01:31.680 being noodled about in Congress

00:01:34.800 to get our medical supply chain back from China

00:01:38.780 so that we don't find ourselves in this situation again.

00:01:42.020 Can you believe we're even debating that?

00:01:44.020 Is there anybody in Congress who,

00:01:49.000 if you brought this act up for a vote today,

00:01:51.240 is there anybody in Congress who would say,

00:01:53.600 you know, I've thought about it,

00:01:55.220 and I really do think we should keep our most critical

00:01:59.420 pharmaceutical products in China.

00:02:03.920 Yeah.

00:02:04.420 I think I'm going to back keeping it where we're in the most risk.

00:02:09.640 Why don't they just pass that right now?

00:02:12.080 Why does that take 30 minutes to debate?

00:02:14.960 Is there anybody on the other side?

00:02:17.460 Why do we even have a Congress to debate stuff like that?

00:02:21.120 They should just say, does anybody, any objections?

00:02:23.820 No?

00:02:24.260 Okay, we're going to go do this.

00:02:29.780 So Jake Tapper got in a little,

00:02:33.760 well, I'm not going to say trouble,

00:02:34.940 but he got, he did something provocative today

00:02:37.660 because he retweeted Trump critic George Conway.

00:02:43.760 And George Conway had said that

00:02:46.040 the president is 100% insane,

00:02:49.300 which was in response to somebody else's tweet.

00:02:53.460 So Jake Tapper retweeted George Conway

00:02:56.300 saying that the president is 100% insane,

00:02:58.620 and then people said,

00:03:00.360 hey, Jake Tapper, you're taking sides.

00:03:03.820 You can't agree with somebody who says

00:03:05.840 the president's insane.

00:03:07.660 And then Jake Tapper had to tweet back

00:03:10.720 and explain to people how Twitter works.

00:03:14.260 Now, I'm just going to take Jake's side completely.

00:03:18.540 Sorry.

00:03:19.400 I know you don't like it.

00:03:21.040 But sometimes things are unambiguous.

00:03:24.800 This is one of those unambiguous situations.

00:03:28.580 A retweet doesn't mean you agree with it.

00:03:31.740 Who started that rule?

00:03:33.200 That's not a rule.

00:03:35.820 There's no rule that says if you retweet someone else's opinion,

00:03:39.380 therefore it means you endorse it or agree with it,

00:03:42.940 especially if you're a news person.

00:03:45.200 If somebody makes news with their opinion,

00:03:48.720 you can retweet that stuff.

00:03:50.160 So the reason this bugs me is because it happens to me.

00:03:57.520 I will often like a tweet that I don't agree with

00:04:02.400 because I like that it happened,

00:04:04.800 or I might want to look at it again,

00:04:06.800 or I might want to call your attention to it.

00:04:09.060 There's something noteworthy about it.

00:04:10.840 You know, it's worth looking at.

00:04:13.280 So, you know, I'll just hit it with a heart,

00:04:16.160 maybe so it's easier to find later

00:04:17.840 or so other people can see it.

00:04:20.260 Liking and retweeting things is not an endorsement.

00:04:23.420 So you need to get rid of that thought from your head.

00:04:26.180 So Jake was completely right about that.

00:04:33.340 Let's see.

00:04:35.220 How much do you love watching Trump treat the press

00:04:40.000 the way the press treats Trump?

00:04:43.140 Because everybody's complaining that the president

00:04:45.700 is sort of inappropriately insulting

00:04:48.600 and pushing back on the press in the press briefings,

00:04:51.620 and I'm thinking to myself, I don't think so.

00:04:54.280 I don't think he's pushing back in a way

00:04:58.500 that's out of scale with what they're doing.

00:05:01.920 I think he's just responding in kind,

00:05:04.260 and it's just the first time you've ever seen it.

00:05:07.140 You've never seen anybody who is being abused in public

00:05:10.880 just abuse the abuser in public.

00:05:14.440 Usually if somebody is being abused in public,

00:05:16.640 they just sort of take it.

00:05:18.360 You know, the press will be asking all these gotcha questions,

00:05:21.020 and the politician might act a little peeved,

00:05:25.140 but they basically play along with the charade

00:05:28.660 that any of this is good for the public

00:05:30.860 if they answer the question.

00:05:32.820 Trump just doesn't play along.

00:05:34.900 When they ask a gotcha question,

00:05:37.060 he attacks them personally.

00:05:40.740 To which I say, is that unfair?

00:05:43.040 If somebody goes into the most important room

00:05:47.560 in the United States at the moment,

00:05:50.420 wherever the president is, I guess,

00:05:52.000 would be the most important room,

00:05:54.000 and they waste the public's time

00:05:56.100 by asking questions that only serve

00:05:58.820 the business model of the press

00:06:00.420 and don't help the public whatsoever,

00:06:03.560 not even potentially,

00:06:05.780 there's no argument for it.

00:06:07.400 I mean, all that conversation about

00:06:09.320 is Trump making doctor advice

00:06:12.980 when he talks about the hydroxychloroquine,

00:06:15.500 that's nothing but a whole bunch of gotcha stuff.

00:06:18.080 There's no content there.

00:06:19.700 Because everybody knows the content.

00:06:22.800 The content is,

00:06:24.740 as clearly as anybody can say it a hundred times,

00:06:27.900 it's not proven.

00:06:30.600 There is some optimism,

00:06:32.200 and here are the reasons for being optimistic.

00:06:34.140 There's not much downside.

00:06:35.260 That's it.

00:06:35.620 That's the whole story.

00:06:37.400 And the press wastes the country's time

00:06:40.220 to try to turn this into a story

00:06:43.820 about how cleverly the question was asked

00:06:46.940 to catch the president in an imperfect answer.

00:06:52.180 Do you want to watch that?

00:06:54.260 Is that why you turned on the TV

00:06:55.740 to get information about the coronavirus crisis?

00:07:00.040 And instead of that,

00:07:00.980 you're watching some reporter

00:07:04.560 trying to make a star turn

00:07:06.060 and make it about themselves

00:07:07.660 in the clever way they ask the question

00:07:09.380 so they can get some time in the news tonight,

00:07:11.880 I want to see the president

00:07:13.940 absolutely eviscerate them in public,

00:07:18.780 which is what he does.

00:07:20.880 He just, in front of the whole public,

00:07:24.300 he just tells the world

00:07:25.420 that you're a piece of crap

00:07:26.860 and you're wasting everybody's time.

00:07:28.880 And if the second question is the same thing,

00:07:31.700 the president will take the time

00:07:33.520 to tell the second reporter,

00:07:35.440 well, you know, you're also a piece of crap

00:07:37.260 and you're wasting the public's time.

00:07:39.540 You know, fix yourself.

00:07:41.420 I could watch that all day long.

00:07:44.340 I wouldn't, you know,

00:07:44.920 you could line up 35 reporters

00:07:47.100 and I'll have them ask

00:07:48.820 the same stupid gotcha questions

00:07:50.620 and I would never get tired

00:07:52.320 of the president saying,

00:07:53.880 you're a stupid reporter

00:07:54.880 asking a stupid gotcha question.

00:07:57.020 Next.

00:07:58.440 Oh, well, you're a stupid reporter

00:08:00.000 asking a stupid gotcha question too.

00:08:02.660 Next.

00:08:03.360 I mean, I would never get tired of it.

00:08:04.940 I swear to God,

00:08:05.800 I could watch it all day long.

00:08:08.160 So, good on the president

00:08:10.520 for pushing back

00:08:12.060 in what I think is proportionate way.

00:08:16.480 There's a graph going around the internet,

00:08:18.520 which everybody feels

00:08:21.260 they need to forward to me.

00:08:23.840 It, and it looks like a fake one to me.

00:08:26.820 So, I called it out

00:08:28.120 as looking like a fake

00:08:29.800 and I'm going to see

00:08:30.860 how good my instincts are.

00:08:32.800 So, what the graph shows is

00:08:34.700 in prior years,

00:08:36.960 what the, I guess,

00:08:38.920 the curve for pneumonia looked like,

00:08:40.640 the number of people

00:08:41.340 who get diagnosed with pneumonia.

00:08:44.560 And every year,

00:08:45.400 it looked like it was going down

00:08:46.640 from the year before,

00:08:47.700 but this current year,

00:08:50.040 when it got to about COVID season,

00:08:52.640 according to the graph,

00:08:54.380 it just fell off the table

00:08:55.980 as if nobody was getting

00:08:58.600 a pneumonia diagnosis.

00:09:00.540 They were only getting

00:09:01.720 coronavirus diagnoses.

00:09:05.160 And the implication of the graph,

00:09:07.100 which I believe is not real,

00:09:09.540 I think it's a fake data,

00:09:11.740 but we'll find out.

00:09:12.880 That's the fun part,

00:09:13.900 is finding out.

00:09:14.380 And the point of it is

00:09:16.080 that it seems to indicate

00:09:17.600 that the coronavirus

00:09:19.580 is not so bad

00:09:20.880 and all people are doing

00:09:22.860 is interpreting

00:09:24.260 regular pneumonia

00:09:25.440 as coronavirus

00:09:26.880 because, you know,

00:09:28.020 they're not doing

00:09:28.580 a real check

00:09:30.460 to find out

00:09:30.940 why somebody died.

00:09:32.400 And so,

00:09:32.660 the thinking is

00:09:33.340 that the coronavirus

00:09:34.020 is just over,

00:09:35.380 over categorized,

00:09:38.160 over counted.

00:09:39.900 So,

00:09:40.620 here's the thing.

00:09:42.320 Here's what I think

00:09:43.280 is sketchy about it.

00:09:44.840 It refers to a source

00:09:46.380 but it doesn't link

00:09:47.460 to a source.

00:09:48.880 If you see a graph

00:09:50.280 that's that provocative

00:09:51.480 and on the graph

00:09:53.460 it says, you know,

00:09:54.380 here's the link

00:09:55.340 but it's just described,

00:09:58.080 it's not an actual link

00:09:59.340 you can click

00:10:00.080 and go look at.

00:10:01.380 And you can't even

00:10:02.220 really easily type it in

00:10:03.440 because it's like

00:10:04.040 a long link,

00:10:05.820 a URL,

00:10:06.540 you wouldn't really

00:10:07.080 type that in.

00:10:07.700 So,

00:10:08.940 yeah, I'm seeing

00:10:11.600 other people say

00:10:12.200 fake graph.

00:10:13.220 So, hint number one

00:10:14.640 is it mentions

00:10:16.880 a source

00:10:17.460 but it doesn't

00:10:18.160 link to it.

00:10:19.700 In 2020,

00:10:21.500 if you mention

00:10:22.520 a source

00:10:22.980 and don't link

00:10:23.700 to it,

00:10:24.660 it's probably

00:10:25.700 fake.

00:10:27.520 Right?

00:10:28.360 Secondly,

00:10:29.520 it's too

00:10:29.940 on the nose.

00:10:31.760 Have you ever

00:10:32.340 heard that phrase?

00:10:33.600 It's sort of a

00:10:34.660 Hollywood script writer

00:10:35.920 phrase,

00:10:36.420 that's the first

00:10:36.860 place I heard it,

00:10:38.560 where you're

00:10:39.000 writing a script

00:10:39.700 and then you write

00:10:40.700 something into the script

00:10:41.740 that's just a little

00:10:43.060 too perfect.

00:10:44.560 It's like,

00:10:45.100 oh, yeah,

00:10:46.080 that's a pretty

00:10:46.840 big coincidence.

00:10:48.080 That doesn't look

00:10:48.640 real at all.

00:10:49.680 That's called

00:10:50.220 being too on the nose.

00:10:52.320 It's so perfect

00:10:53.380 it can't be real.

00:10:55.180 So, when they show

00:10:56.040 this graph

00:10:56.640 and all the other lines

00:10:57.800 are, you know,

00:10:58.360 conforming really well

00:10:59.760 and then this one

00:11:00.400 goes blah, blah, blah

00:11:01.020 and then it just

00:11:01.580 drops straight down,

00:11:03.660 that's a little

00:11:04.420 too on the nose.

00:11:05.920 Right?

00:11:06.480 That's a little

00:11:07.240 too exactly

00:11:08.200 what the message

00:11:09.120 is trying to be.

00:11:10.560 Now, that doesn't

00:11:11.120 mean it's false.

00:11:12.320 I mean,

00:11:12.700 that by itself

00:11:14.300 because sometimes

00:11:15.660 data is surprising.

00:11:17.420 But you start

00:11:18.240 putting it together,

00:11:19.060 it's like,

00:11:19.320 okay,

00:11:19.920 it's a little

00:11:20.600 too on the nose

00:11:21.620 and it doesn't

00:11:23.960 have a clickable

00:11:25.600 link.

00:11:28.320 I say fake.

00:11:30.300 So, I'm seeing

00:11:31.240 different opinions

00:11:31.880 here.

00:11:32.160 Some of you

00:11:32.520 think it's fake,

00:11:33.180 some of you

00:11:33.440 think it's real.

00:11:34.020 maybe somebody

00:11:36.920 can give me

00:11:37.520 an idea.

00:11:38.180 The first person

00:11:39.180 I saw,

00:11:40.280 who I know

00:11:41.240 to be credible

00:11:41.880 from other

00:11:42.660 comments,

00:11:43.820 said he looked

00:11:44.660 at the graph

00:11:45.440 and then looked

00:11:46.060 at the source

00:11:47.040 it's supposed

00:11:48.100 to be from

00:11:48.700 and it doesn't

00:11:49.200 seem to match.

00:11:50.680 But that was

00:11:51.020 just, you know,

00:11:51.760 the first person

00:11:52.500 who commented.

00:11:54.540 So, beware

00:11:55.240 of graphs

00:11:55.920 with no

00:11:57.240 clickable link.

00:11:58.480 I would think

00:12:00.820 75% of those

00:12:02.620 are fake

00:12:03.100 just in general.

00:12:04.600 It doesn't

00:12:04.880 mean that one

00:12:05.360 is, but it

00:12:05.940 might be.

00:12:08.080 Once again,

00:12:08.840 I put on my

00:12:09.580 headphones

00:12:10.000 and started

00:12:12.460 Periscope

00:12:13.480 without clicking

00:12:14.300 the option

00:12:14.860 for you to

00:12:15.520 ask questions.

00:12:16.700 So, my plan

00:12:17.880 for filling

00:12:18.420 this hour

00:12:18.920 with questions

00:12:19.680 that you

00:12:20.100 asked me live

00:12:20.880 is once again

00:12:22.480 ruined by the

00:12:23.540 oddity of

00:12:24.480 this user

00:12:25.740 interface,

00:12:26.220 which doesn't

00:12:27.540 let me do

00:12:28.340 things in the

00:12:28.940 order that I

00:12:29.560 think I want

00:12:30.100 to do them.

00:12:31.360 The order

00:12:32.080 that I want

00:12:32.620 to do them

00:12:33.160 is I wanted

00:12:34.640 to start it up

00:12:35.400 and then invite

00:12:36.120 people in,

00:12:36.700 but apparently

00:12:37.100 I have to

00:12:37.480 invite people

00:12:38.480 in and then

00:12:39.120 start it up,

00:12:39.860 but it's too

00:12:40.820 late to go

00:12:41.280 back now.

00:12:42.340 So, how

00:12:43.400 about those

00:12:43.840 apples?

00:12:47.700 A lot of

00:12:48.400 stories on

00:12:48.780 Facebook of

00:12:49.700 survivors who

00:12:50.620 took the

00:12:51.200 hydroxychloroquine.

00:12:52.960 So, yeah,

00:12:53.440 I just saw a

00:12:54.240 story on

00:12:55.560 Laura Engram's

00:12:56.560 show in

00:12:57.440 which a

00:12:58.680 Democratic

00:12:59.180 politician said

00:13:01.200 that the

00:13:01.640 hydroxychloroquine

00:13:02.660 probably saved

00:13:04.420 her life.

00:13:05.660 Here's a

00:13:06.420 problem with

00:13:07.140 every one of

00:13:07.900 those stories.

00:13:09.780 They're a

00:13:10.340 thing called

00:13:10.920 anecdotal.

00:13:12.100 There's a

00:13:12.840 reason that

00:13:13.720 anecdotal has

00:13:14.880 its own word,

00:13:16.240 and it's not

00:13:16.800 the same word

00:13:17.420 as scientifically

00:13:18.400 demonstrated or

00:13:20.280 clinical trials.

00:13:22.560 Anecdotal is

00:13:24.080 never reliable.

00:13:27.320 It can be

00:13:27.860 true, but you

00:13:29.540 can't rely on

00:13:30.340 it.

00:13:30.920 There's no

00:13:31.620 information really

00:13:32.500 being transmitted

00:13:33.360 with anecdotal

00:13:34.780 stuff.

00:13:35.280 There's only the

00:13:35.860 possibility of

00:13:36.800 information.

00:13:38.200 So, anecdotal

00:13:38.840 information can

00:13:39.680 tell you where

00:13:40.260 to look.

00:13:41.680 It can tell

00:13:42.300 you, well, it

00:13:43.060 might be a good

00:13:43.540 idea to do a

00:13:44.240 study on this,

00:13:45.580 but by itself it

00:13:46.700 doesn't tell you

00:13:47.200 stuff.

00:13:47.820 So, just keep

00:13:49.520 that in mind.

00:13:50.460 I suppose

00:13:50.960 everybody's saying

00:13:51.640 the same thing,

00:13:52.400 but you can't

00:13:53.440 be reminded of

00:13:54.320 that enough.

00:13:55.820 So, I put

00:13:56.560 very low

00:13:58.820 credibility in

00:13:59.920 the individual

00:14:00.860 reports of

00:14:02.060 people who

00:14:02.540 say, I took

00:14:03.220 the drug and

00:14:03.920 an hour later

00:14:05.700 I was already

00:14:06.260 feeling better.

00:14:07.060 And by the

00:14:07.380 way, I have

00:14:07.840 heard those

00:14:08.260 stories.

00:14:09.340 I have very

00:14:10.100 much heard the

00:14:10.700 stories from

00:14:11.820 even personally.

00:14:12.980 I've heard at

00:14:13.880 least one story

00:14:14.660 of somebody who

00:14:15.380 took it and

00:14:16.880 it seemed to

00:14:17.600 turn things

00:14:18.100 around so

00:14:18.660 quickly that it

00:14:20.120 was hard not

00:14:21.040 to attribute

00:14:21.580 it to the

00:14:22.060 drug because

00:14:22.720 the timing

00:14:23.380 was just, it

00:14:24.400 would have been

00:14:24.700 a coincidence

00:14:25.160 if things

00:14:26.020 turned around

00:14:26.580 at exactly

00:14:27.340 that time.

00:14:29.180 So, I think

00:14:30.060 there's a good

00:14:30.400 chance.

00:14:31.160 There's a good

00:14:31.580 chance it

00:14:31.960 works.

00:14:32.900 I think India

00:14:33.680 decided to

00:14:34.640 open up and

00:14:35.640 allow us to

00:14:36.820 buy some from

00:14:37.440 India because

00:14:37.980 that's one of

00:14:38.500 our biggest

00:14:38.820 sources.

00:14:41.820 I'm seeing

00:14:43.580 ridiculous stories

00:14:44.720 about how

00:14:45.380 people are

00:14:46.940 trying to make

00:14:47.820 it look like

00:14:48.320 President Trump

00:14:49.000 has some kind

00:14:49.580 of financial

00:14:50.180 gain from

00:14:51.800 pushing the

00:14:52.420 hydroxychloroquine.

00:14:54.740 Do you

00:14:55.040 really need

00:14:55.660 to, like

00:14:58.220 suppose it

00:14:58.640 was true,

00:14:59.380 when I saw

00:15:00.860 those articles

00:15:01.520 suggesting that

00:15:02.520 the President

00:15:02.920 had some

00:15:03.380 financial gain

00:15:04.220 in this, I

00:15:05.100 couldn't even

00:15:05.540 open them and

00:15:06.200 look to see

00:15:06.700 what the

00:15:06.980 argument is

00:15:07.580 because on

00:15:08.940 its surface

00:15:09.460 it's so

00:15:10.020 ridiculous.

00:15:11.300 You don't

00:15:11.620 even have to

00:15:12.100 read that

00:15:12.900 article.

00:15:13.860 Let me

00:15:14.220 explain why

00:15:14.780 that's so

00:15:15.180 ridiculous.

00:15:15.580 The idea

00:15:17.540 is that the

00:15:18.020 President is

00:15:18.780 acting in a

00:15:19.540 way that,

00:15:21.120 even without

00:15:21.840 reading the

00:15:22.820 article, I'm

00:15:23.580 assuming this

00:15:24.140 is what it's

00:15:24.580 about, that

00:15:25.660 pushing this

00:15:26.260 drug, somehow

00:15:27.140 he has some

00:15:27.820 direct or

00:15:28.400 indirect financial

00:15:29.440 interest in the

00:15:30.180 company, and

00:15:31.280 really it's just

00:15:32.020 a big old

00:15:32.500 trick to pump

00:15:33.840 up the value

00:15:34.460 of this stock

00:15:35.640 and somehow

00:15:36.620 he'd gain from

00:15:37.600 that or his

00:15:38.120 friends would or

00:15:38.780 something.

00:15:39.840 Here's how

00:15:40.320 ridiculous this

00:15:41.040 is.

00:15:42.120 Have you

00:15:42.580 noticed he's

00:15:43.280 the President

00:15:43.780 of the United

00:15:44.400 States, and

00:15:46.420 he's got a

00:15:46.920 big old

00:15:47.300 company?

00:15:48.300 The only

00:15:49.020 thing that

00:15:49.480 Trump can

00:15:49.900 do that is

00:15:51.540 good for him

00:15:52.140 personally is

00:15:53.700 to do a

00:15:54.200 really good

00:15:54.720 job for the

00:15:55.400 country where

00:15:56.600 everybody's

00:15:57.180 watching.

00:15:58.300 That's the

00:15:58.900 end of the

00:15:59.260 story.

00:16:00.040 If you have

00:16:00.780 to throw

00:16:01.140 in, oh,

00:16:01.980 he's really

00:16:02.740 managing his

00:16:03.640 job as

00:16:04.160 President of

00:16:04.640 the United

00:16:05.000 States for

00:16:06.180 this one

00:16:06.660 little stock

00:16:07.320 deal, you're

00:16:09.140 so far from

00:16:10.020 reality and

00:16:10.940 understanding how

00:16:11.700 the world

00:16:12.060 works that you

00:16:13.220 should not

00:16:13.640 talk in

00:16:14.060 public anymore.

00:16:15.600 Because here's

00:16:16.280 the deal.

00:16:17.140 If Trump does

00:16:18.120 a good job

00:16:18.760 with this

00:16:19.080 coronavirus, the

00:16:20.460 public decides,

00:16:21.380 oh, it wasn't

00:16:22.760 perfect, but I

00:16:23.520 think you got

00:16:24.680 us through, he

00:16:26.080 will get

00:16:26.400 re-elected.

00:16:27.520 Being re-elected

00:16:28.380 is the best

00:16:28.840 thing he could

00:16:29.300 do for himself,

00:16:30.080 his family, his

00:16:30.680 family business.

00:16:32.000 Just simply

00:16:32.440 doing a good

00:16:33.140 job for the

00:16:33.740 country is

00:16:35.440 where all of

00:16:36.300 his gain lies.

00:16:38.060 There is no

00:16:38.860 situation where

00:16:40.440 President Trump

00:16:41.160 could find some

00:16:42.100 way, some

00:16:43.260 little angle

00:16:43.940 that's good

00:16:45.160 for him and

00:16:45.760 his family

00:16:46.460 personally, and

00:16:47.860 yet was somehow

00:16:48.460 bad for the

00:16:49.120 country.

00:16:49.620 It just doesn't

00:16:50.580 exist.

00:16:51.800 It can't

00:16:52.560 exist.

00:16:54.440 Logically, you

00:16:55.840 can't have a

00:16:56.720 situation where

00:16:57.980 you're watching

00:16:58.540 this guy so

00:16:59.340 closely and he

00:17:01.000 could possibly

00:17:01.640 find anything,

00:17:03.100 find some

00:17:03.700 clever way to

00:17:05.180 enrich himself

00:17:06.000 and his family

00:17:06.600 at the expense

00:17:07.340 of the country.

00:17:08.340 That's not a

00:17:09.160 thing.

00:17:10.060 It would be a

00:17:10.780 thing if we

00:17:11.260 weren't watching.

00:17:13.280 I'm not saying

00:17:14.200 that he would

00:17:14.700 do it if we

00:17:15.200 weren't watching.

00:17:15.840 I'm saying that

00:17:16.440 it could be a

00:17:17.720 thing if a

00:17:19.480 president were

00:17:20.180 not being

00:17:20.640 watched.

00:17:22.140 You could

00:17:22.520 imagine any

00:17:23.100 leader could do

00:17:23.780 nefarious things

00:17:24.600 if nobody's

00:17:25.200 watching.

00:17:26.080 But we're all

00:17:26.760 watching.

00:17:28.020 You can't

00:17:29.360 possibly come up

00:17:30.260 with any

00:17:30.680 reasonable

00:17:31.220 scenario where

00:17:32.720 the president

00:17:33.840 directly screws

00:17:35.700 300x million

00:17:37.740 people, but

00:17:39.440 he makes,

00:17:39.940 hey, I made

00:17:40.380 a 20% gain on

00:17:41.460 this one stock.

00:17:42.660 It's so crazy.

00:17:44.480 It's beyond

00:17:45.280 crazy.

00:17:47.120 It's 100% crazy,

00:17:48.440 as George

00:17:48.840 Conway would

00:17:49.420 say.

00:17:50.940 All right.

00:17:54.280 Here are the

00:17:55.040 things we know.

00:17:56.580 It does seem

00:17:57.540 that worldwide

00:17:58.980 there's some

00:18:00.180 kind of an

00:18:01.140 elbow happening.

00:18:02.060 there's some

00:18:03.500 kind of a

00:18:04.060 thing happening

00:18:04.680 right now in

00:18:05.580 which it

00:18:07.300 looks like things

00:18:08.000 are getting

00:18:08.320 better, or at

00:18:09.940 least things are

00:18:10.780 getting worse

00:18:11.960 less quickly,

00:18:13.400 which looks like

00:18:14.400 the beginning of

00:18:15.120 things getting

00:18:15.580 better.

00:18:16.980 And I will

00:18:18.800 remind you what

00:18:19.580 I told you,

00:18:20.640 that if it

00:18:21.460 looks like you

00:18:22.380 get a report

00:18:22.980 that that

00:18:23.480 hydroxychloroquine

00:18:24.600 is working,

00:18:25.780 you better own

00:18:26.660 some stocks,

00:18:27.800 because two

00:18:28.900 days in a row,

00:18:30.560 that's a lot

00:18:31.580 of green.

00:18:32.060 A lot of

00:18:34.060 green.

00:18:35.840 Amazon is

00:18:36.660 up.

00:18:38.420 Everything's

00:18:38.940 up.

00:18:39.780 Even poor

00:18:40.360 little Bitcoin

00:18:41.180 is up.

00:18:43.040 Wow.

00:18:44.360 Things are up

00:18:44.880 a lot.

00:18:48.000 So,

00:18:48.760 yesterday, I

00:18:49.860 think, was

00:18:50.240 that day.

00:18:51.000 You know, I

00:18:51.320 warned you that

00:18:52.160 you would not

00:18:53.420 want to not

00:18:54.520 own stocks on

00:18:56.400 the day that

00:18:56.920 somebody says,

00:18:57.640 you know, this

00:18:58.080 hydroxychloroquine

00:18:59.000 looks like it's

00:18:59.580 working.

00:18:59.840 And sure

00:19:01.800 enough,

00:19:02.840 yesterday was

00:19:03.660 that day.

00:19:04.320 I mean, we've

00:19:04.740 had lots of

00:19:05.300 hints, but I

00:19:06.460 feel like the

00:19:07.160 weight of the

00:19:08.320 hints didn't

00:19:10.140 become significant

00:19:11.740 until yesterday,

00:19:12.980 wouldn't you

00:19:13.340 say?

00:19:14.840 Wouldn't you

00:19:15.520 say that

00:19:15.960 yesterday was

00:19:16.560 sort of the

00:19:17.020 moment that

00:19:18.440 the whole

00:19:18.800 country started

00:19:19.540 to say,

00:19:20.160 maybe, yeah,

00:19:22.040 maybe, maybe

00:19:22.660 it does work.

00:19:23.540 Now, I think

00:19:24.040 what we needed

00:19:24.580 to see was

00:19:25.880 more anecdotal

00:19:26.700 stories, because

00:19:27.560 they're convincing

00:19:28.320 even though

00:19:28.940 they're not

00:19:29.280 scientifically

00:19:29.900 valid.

00:19:30.900 But on top

00:19:31.580 of that, we

00:19:32.020 needed to see

00:19:32.620 that the

00:19:33.020 curve was

00:19:33.460 changing, because

00:19:35.320 you wouldn't

00:19:35.800 believe that

00:19:36.320 the drug

00:19:36.700 worked unless

00:19:38.440 it was actually

00:19:39.320 showing a

00:19:39.900 change in the

00:19:40.420 curve, and I

00:19:41.040 think New York

00:19:41.500 City is starting

00:19:42.140 to demonstrate

00:19:42.660 that.

00:19:44.020 And I think

00:19:45.160 the news in

00:19:46.560 the coming

00:19:46.940 weeks will be

00:19:48.900 mostly about

00:19:49.900 hospitals that

00:19:50.920 are not

00:19:51.380 over capacity.

00:19:55.180 So I think

00:19:56.180 that's it.

00:19:58.020 I'm seeing

00:19:58.720 many questions

00:19:59.740 about what I

00:20:00.280 think of Dr.

00:20:01.080 Shiva's opinion

00:20:02.260 on this, and I

00:20:03.800 have not

00:20:04.200 followed it, so I

00:20:05.020 don't have an

00:20:05.420 opinion on that.

00:20:07.900 So you can

00:20:08.600 stop asking,

00:20:09.460 because I don't

00:20:09.900 know his

00:20:10.980 opinion.

00:20:14.880 So here's

00:20:15.800 the deal.

00:20:18.780 I think we've

00:20:19.720 entered the

00:20:21.180 period where

00:20:21.720 things are going

00:20:22.200 to get better.

00:20:22.680 Now, the big

00:20:23.080 question is going

00:20:23.720 to be how to

00:20:25.600 get back to

00:20:26.060 work.

00:20:35.440 Sometimes I

00:20:36.300 see comments

00:20:36.940 that so

00:20:37.560 disappoint me

00:20:38.460 in the, I

00:20:42.020 don't know, I'm

00:20:42.580 just so

00:20:42.980 disappointed,

00:20:43.600 because I

00:20:46.280 consider myself

00:20:47.200 relatively

00:20:48.060 ungullible.

00:20:50.640 You know,

00:20:50.800 everybody's

00:20:51.360 gullible a

00:20:51.980 little bit.

00:20:52.460 Everybody can

00:20:52.940 be fooled.

00:20:53.440 Everybody can

00:20:54.540 be wrong.

00:20:55.100 Everybody can

00:20:55.760 retweet something

00:20:57.240 that turns out

00:20:58.240 to be fake

00:20:58.760 news.

00:20:59.480 So nobody's

00:21:00.080 immune to it.

00:21:01.200 But I feel,

00:21:02.900 you know, if

00:21:03.920 you were to

00:21:04.280 rank human

00:21:05.580 capabilities,

00:21:06.580 you know,

00:21:06.860 everybody's

00:21:07.440 somewhere on

00:21:09.040 the line.

00:21:10.860 I feel like I'm

00:21:11.700 relatively immune

00:21:13.060 from believing

00:21:14.780 the craziest

00:21:15.440 stuff.

00:21:15.960 and when I

00:21:17.960 see people who

00:21:18.680 still believe

00:21:19.300 the craziest

00:21:19.860 stuff, as

00:21:21.420 in the

00:21:21.700 comments, it

00:21:23.640 just actually

00:21:24.240 shocks me for

00:21:25.100 a moment.

00:21:26.500 And I

00:21:26.740 think, wow,

00:21:27.800 people will

00:21:28.380 really believe

00:21:29.100 just about

00:21:29.620 anything,

00:21:30.060 won't they?

00:21:32.360 All right.

00:21:33.020 So, the

00:21:38.040 big question

00:21:38.940 in the

00:21:39.460 coming week

00:21:40.840 and more

00:21:42.180 is,

00:21:44.060 somebody says

00:21:45.440 you're gullible

00:21:46.020 to support

00:21:46.700 Tapper.

00:21:47.800 Well, you

00:21:49.400 get the

00:21:49.740 block.

00:21:51.760 Now, I

00:21:52.480 remind you

00:21:53.160 that you

00:21:55.560 can disagree

00:21:56.200 with my

00:21:56.680 opinions all

00:21:57.280 you want,

00:21:57.980 but whenever

00:21:58.540 your comments

00:21:59.320 are about my

00:22:00.760 internal thought

00:22:01.580 process,

00:22:02.120 you'll always

00:22:03.480 get blocked.

00:22:08.720 Do I have

00:22:09.780 to, it

00:22:10.700 looks like I'm

00:22:11.240 going to have

00:22:11.500 to go do

00:22:11.880 homework and

00:22:12.680 listen to

00:22:13.220 Dr. Shiva

00:22:13.960 so that I

00:22:15.480 can tell you

00:22:15.920 my opinion

00:22:16.400 because I

00:22:18.500 didn't say I

00:22:18.960 don't like

00:22:19.360 him.

00:22:19.700 I said I

00:22:20.220 haven't listened

00:22:20.820 to his

00:22:21.140 opinion on

00:22:21.640 this topic.

00:22:23.180 So, if,

00:22:25.320 will you be

00:22:26.500 happy if I

00:22:27.020 go listen to

00:22:27.520 his opinion?

00:22:28.180 Is the

00:22:28.580 reason that

00:22:29.040 you want me

00:22:29.680 to listen

00:22:30.480 because you're

00:22:31.580 not confident

00:22:32.120 in it or

00:22:33.100 do you

00:22:33.360 think, or

00:22:34.520 is it because

00:22:35.280 you are

00:22:35.660 confident in

00:22:36.560 his opinion

00:22:37.320 and you

00:22:37.700 think I

00:22:38.080 can extend

00:22:38.860 it?

00:22:39.940 Because I

00:22:40.420 don't really

00:22:40.840 understand your

00:22:42.260 interest in

00:22:43.240 me getting

00:22:43.900 interested in

00:22:44.560 him.

00:22:45.600 I mean, his

00:22:46.300 specific opinion

00:22:47.200 on this

00:22:47.600 topic.

00:22:48.500 Is there

00:22:48.700 some reason

00:22:49.220 that,

00:22:52.320 well, all

00:22:53.460 right, I'll

00:22:53.760 look into

00:22:54.080 it.

00:22:55.780 Let me do

00:22:56.720 it right now.

00:22:58.220 Let me look

00:22:58.800 up, no,

00:23:00.320 it'll take too

00:23:00.740 long.

00:23:00.900 Forget it.

00:23:03.560 So, anyway, I

00:23:04.440 tweeted this

00:23:05.200 question, this

00:23:05.880 survey.

00:23:07.640 I said, how

00:23:07.900 many net

00:23:08.320 lives would

00:23:09.500 you accept

00:23:10.100 as lost?

00:23:11.380 How many

00:23:12.020 extra people

00:23:12.640 would you be

00:23:13.160 willing to

00:23:13.640 see die

00:23:14.260 in order to

00:23:15.920 reopen the

00:23:16.440 economy?

00:23:17.960 And so my

00:23:18.700 choices were,

00:23:19.500 and of course,

00:23:20.340 these polls are

00:23:21.360 unscientific and

00:23:22.180 everything, but

00:23:23.440 they can give

00:23:24.280 you maybe a

00:23:25.040 directional sense

00:23:25.960 of where

00:23:26.280 people are

00:23:27.500 leaning.

00:23:27.760 and so I

00:23:29.240 gave them

00:23:29.500 the choices

00:23:29.920 of up to

00:23:30.880 50,000

00:23:31.520 people extra

00:23:32.340 dead to

00:23:33.080 get back to

00:23:33.560 work, up

00:23:34.500 to 100,000

00:23:35.360 or up to

00:23:35.900 200,000.

00:23:36.960 I capped

00:23:37.580 the survey at

00:23:38.400 200,000 because

00:23:39.280 I don't think

00:23:39.920 there's any

00:23:40.340 chance it's

00:23:40.900 going to go

00:23:41.200 over that,

00:23:42.340 wouldn't you

00:23:42.780 say?

00:23:43.140 Is it fair to

00:23:43.920 say at this

00:23:44.540 point that the

00:23:46.020 number of

00:23:46.460 deaths from

00:23:46.940 coronavirus are

00:23:48.140 unlikely to be

00:23:49.020 over 200,000

00:23:50.020 for this

00:23:50.480 country?

00:23:51.780 So I capped

00:23:52.560 it at that.

00:23:53.060 And the

00:23:53.940 answers were

00:23:54.720 interesting because

00:23:56.600 they were

00:23:57.260 clustered on

00:23:59.540 the two

00:23:59.820 extremes.

00:24:01.220 So there

00:24:01.880 were 32% who

00:24:03.100 said only up

00:24:04.660 to 50,000

00:24:05.460 extra deaths,

00:24:06.560 but there

00:24:07.440 were 48% who

00:24:08.640 said up to

00:24:09.100 200.

00:24:10.740 And then in

00:24:11.400 the middle was

00:24:12.300 the smallest

00:24:12.740 group of 19%

00:24:13.840 said up to

00:24:14.380 100.

00:24:15.020 So it seems

00:24:15.560 that people,

00:24:16.860 and I think,

00:24:17.680 I'll bet this

00:24:18.140 would hold

00:24:18.580 up.

00:24:19.600 I think this

00:24:20.500 would hold

00:24:20.920 up.

00:24:21.280 And what I'm

00:24:21.880 saying is that

00:24:22.620 people either

00:24:24.500 say it's

00:24:25.720 got to be as

00:24:26.200 close to

00:24:26.680 zero as

00:24:27.180 possible,

00:24:27.660 or they

00:24:29.260 say it

00:24:29.860 almost doesn't

00:24:30.560 matter.

00:24:32.080 Those seem

00:24:32.740 to be the

00:24:33.120 views.

00:24:33.580 I don't think

00:24:34.220 people are

00:24:34.640 going to be

00:24:34.920 able to

00:24:35.220 fine-tune

00:24:35.920 where it

00:24:36.360 is in

00:24:36.840 that range.

00:24:37.800 So the

00:24:38.380 people are

00:24:38.740 going to

00:24:38.900 say it's

00:24:39.580 got to be

00:24:39.900 as close

00:24:40.300 to zero

00:24:40.740 as possible,

00:24:41.520 so give

00:24:41.940 me the

00:24:42.220 smallest

00:24:42.520 number.

00:24:43.780 And then

00:24:44.220 other people

00:24:44.760 are going

00:24:45.000 to say the

00:24:46.120 economy is

00:24:46.780 so important

00:24:47.340 that 200,000,

00:24:49.000 sure.

00:24:49.680 A million?

00:24:50.600 Yep.

00:24:51.320 Yeah, I

00:24:51.740 would let a

00:24:52.120 million people

00:24:52.600 die to not

00:24:53.860 destroy the

00:24:54.400 entire economy.

00:24:55.220 Totally worth

00:24:55.680 it.

00:24:56.540 So given

00:24:57.020 that nobody

00:24:57.680 can really

00:24:58.260 calculate the

00:24:59.340 pluses and

00:24:59.940 minuses of

00:25:00.680 these, we're

00:25:01.360 just going by

00:25:01.980 our bias,

00:25:02.680 whether we

00:25:03.060 think the

00:25:03.380 economy will

00:25:04.100 kill more

00:25:05.040 people or the

00:25:05.820 coronavirus, we

00:25:06.760 don't really

00:25:07.180 know.

00:25:08.160 We just feel

00:25:09.620 like we know

00:25:10.260 or we've got a

00:25:10.940 hunch or an

00:25:12.240 instinct about it

00:25:13.060 that may or

00:25:13.500 may not be

00:25:13.880 good.

00:25:15.520 So the reason

00:25:16.300 this is important

00:25:17.040 is that you

00:25:17.720 need to get a

00:25:18.280 sense of the

00:25:18.920 mood of the

00:25:19.380 country, because

00:25:20.340 whatever the

00:25:20.960 government comes

00:25:21.620 up with, we

00:25:22.520 need to buy

00:25:23.040 into it.

00:25:24.500 And the

00:25:25.480 reason I'm

00:25:25.880 making a big

00:25:26.400 deal about

00:25:27.140 the public's

00:25:28.140 opinion is

00:25:29.360 that the

00:25:29.640 public needs

00:25:30.380 to give our

00:25:31.120 government cover

00:25:32.180 to make the

00:25:33.540 right decision.

00:25:34.540 At the

00:25:35.100 moment, I

00:25:35.580 think our

00:25:35.980 system requires

00:25:37.580 that our

00:25:38.060 president continue

00:25:39.160 to say things

00:25:40.040 such as, I

00:25:41.280 will accept

00:25:41.820 zero deaths.

00:25:43.720 Now, as a

00:25:44.740 politician and

00:25:46.240 a leader, that's

00:25:48.040 really good.

00:25:48.620 When Trump

00:25:51.160 says, I

00:25:51.980 will accept

00:25:52.500 zero deaths

00:25:54.160 are acceptable,

00:25:56.080 for once, he's

00:25:57.600 acting like a

00:25:58.300 standard politician

00:25:59.220 in the sense

00:26:00.000 that there's

00:26:01.040 no other

00:26:01.520 right answer

00:26:02.260 if you're the

00:26:03.060 leader of the

00:26:03.500 country.

00:26:04.520 Which, by the

00:26:05.120 way, I'm

00:26:05.440 going to tie

00:26:05.780 this into

00:26:06.200 something.

00:26:07.200 Regardless of

00:26:08.000 what you think

00:26:08.880 about abortion,

00:26:11.240 so forget

00:26:12.180 your own

00:26:12.680 opinion,

00:26:13.580 regardless of

00:26:15.300 what you think

00:26:16.300 of abortion,

00:26:17.020 whether you

00:26:17.320 like it or

00:26:17.820 hate it,

00:26:18.620 would you

00:26:19.580 not agree

00:26:20.160 that the

00:26:21.280 president of

00:26:21.840 the United

00:26:22.160 States should

00:26:23.020 always be

00:26:23.680 against it?

00:26:25.560 Here's my

00:26:26.240 argument.

00:26:27.200 Because you

00:26:27.900 want the

00:26:28.320 president of

00:26:28.760 the United

00:26:29.020 States to

00:26:29.600 say, in

00:26:30.600 every case,

00:26:31.820 no matter

00:26:32.240 what, if

00:26:33.000 there's a

00:26:33.400 gray area,

00:26:34.900 I'm in

00:26:35.320 favor of

00:26:35.920 maximizing,

00:26:37.180 saving

00:26:37.480 American

00:26:37.960 lives.

00:26:39.440 That was

00:26:39.780 restricted to

00:26:40.660 America,

00:26:41.140 because it's

00:26:41.520 an American

00:26:41.920 political

00:26:42.380 question.

00:26:44.520 Would you

00:26:45.180 ever want a

00:26:45.820 president,

00:26:46.200 regardless of

00:26:49.920 your own

00:26:50.300 views,

00:26:51.260 independent of

00:26:52.180 what you

00:26:52.500 think,

00:26:52.940 would you

00:26:53.200 ever be

00:26:53.560 comfortable

00:26:53.900 with a

00:26:54.280 president who

00:26:54.860 said,

00:26:55.580 look, I

00:26:57.200 think there

00:26:57.580 is a

00:26:58.020 case,

00:26:59.360 it seems

00:26:59.820 like a

00:27:00.140 little gray

00:27:00.560 area to a

00:27:01.160 lot of

00:27:01.340 people in

00:27:01.660 the country,

00:27:02.260 or a big

00:27:02.720 gray area to

00:27:03.360 a lot of

00:27:03.660 people in

00:27:03.960 the country,

00:27:04.740 but as

00:27:05.340 your leader,

00:27:05.960 yeah, I

00:27:06.960 think that

00:27:07.360 this class

00:27:08.020 of people,

00:27:09.420 according to

00:27:10.240 this number

00:27:11.360 of the

00:27:11.580 public,

00:27:11.940 who would

00:27:13.040 consider it

00:27:13.600 the unborn

00:27:14.140 real people,

00:27:16.240 that, yeah,

00:27:17.160 my opinion

00:27:17.660 is that they

00:27:18.400 can die.

00:27:20.260 Now,

00:27:20.960 regardless of

00:27:21.720 whether you

00:27:22.000 think abortion

00:27:22.540 is a good

00:27:23.100 idea or a

00:27:23.880 bad idea,

00:27:25.100 my opinion

00:27:25.780 is that the

00:27:26.760 leader of

00:27:27.140 the country,

00:27:28.700 the one who

00:27:30.780 has the most

00:27:31.440 impact in

00:27:32.200 leadership,

00:27:33.100 needs to

00:27:34.100 always be

00:27:34.960 on the

00:27:36.180 side of

00:27:36.600 maximum

00:27:37.000 life,

00:27:37.700 even if

00:27:38.320 it's not

00:27:38.660 practical.

00:27:39.880 Now, I

00:27:40.940 would still

00:27:41.360 be okay

00:27:41.960 with that

00:27:43.260 leader saying,

00:27:44.260 you know,

00:27:44.700 as your

00:27:45.460 president,

00:27:46.020 I have one

00:27:46.640 view and it

00:27:47.220 will never

00:27:47.580 change.

00:27:48.960 My view is

00:27:50.000 that we

00:27:50.320 should do

00:27:50.600 everything we

00:27:51.100 can to

00:27:52.060 protect every

00:27:52.720 life, every

00:27:53.960 possible life,

00:27:54.980 every gray area

00:27:55.700 life, every

00:27:56.460 life.

00:27:56.960 If you're an

00:27:57.340 American, I've

00:27:57.940 got one job.

00:27:59.240 Keep you safe,

00:28:00.020 keep you alive,

00:28:00.740 keep you happy.

00:28:02.000 It's not up to

00:28:02.740 me to decide if

00:28:03.680 you're worthy of

00:28:04.540 saving.

00:28:05.920 As president, I

00:28:07.060 will never weigh

00:28:07.840 in on the

00:28:08.280 question of

00:28:09.580 whether this

00:28:10.120 person or this

00:28:10.780 person,

00:28:11.360 is worth

00:28:12.280 saving their

00:28:13.000 life.

00:28:13.360 I will never

00:28:13.860 engage in

00:28:14.500 that because

00:28:15.580 my job is to

00:28:16.460 save you all.

00:28:17.600 Now, it's

00:28:18.660 also a

00:28:19.100 practical world.

00:28:21.080 Some decisions

00:28:21.960 are tough.

00:28:23.300 So this

00:28:23.640 abortion question

00:28:24.420 is going to be

00:28:25.000 to the states.

00:28:27.040 States, you

00:28:27.920 decided, maybe

00:28:29.140 even Supreme

00:28:29.760 Court, you

00:28:30.220 decided.

00:28:31.160 But because of

00:28:31.880 my special

00:28:32.960 job title, as

00:28:35.220 the person who

00:28:35.920 protects everybody,

00:28:37.260 I'm the only

00:28:38.240 person in the

00:28:38.940 country who

00:28:39.960 won't give you

00:28:40.620 an opinion on

00:28:41.260 abortion.

00:28:42.300 I won't give

00:28:43.140 you my opinion

00:28:43.800 because, as

00:28:45.800 president, I

00:28:47.140 shouldn't have

00:28:47.980 one on life

00:28:49.420 or death.

00:28:50.400 It's just

00:28:50.980 always life.

00:28:52.620 If you, the

00:28:53.440 state, want to

00:28:54.000 make a different

00:28:54.680 decision, I

00:28:56.240 accept that.

00:28:57.320 The country

00:28:58.180 needs to have

00:28:58.720 rules.

00:28:59.600 We have a

00:29:00.460 democratic process.

00:29:02.200 And if that's

00:29:02.720 the way it goes,

00:29:03.400 I'll support it.

00:29:04.540 But as your

00:29:05.080 president, never

00:29:06.540 put me in a

00:29:07.160 position where

00:29:07.960 I'm deciding

00:29:08.720 who lives and

00:29:09.980 who dies.

00:29:10.880 You don't want

00:29:11.380 that president.

00:29:13.200 And so, again,

00:29:14.920 as a practical

00:29:16.420 matter, you want

00:29:17.200 your president to

00:29:17.860 agree with you on

00:29:18.640 abortion because

00:29:19.320 it's more likely

00:29:20.020 things will go

00:29:21.200 your way.

00:29:21.680 So I get that

00:29:22.360 on a practical

00:29:23.440 level.

00:29:23.840 But on a

00:29:25.200 moral, ethical

00:29:26.000 level, I would

00:29:27.260 never, ever,

00:29:28.040 ever, ever want

00:29:29.700 the number one

00:29:31.220 leader of the

00:29:31.740 country to ever

00:29:33.300 decide who gets

00:29:35.500 to live and who

00:29:36.100 gets to die or

00:29:36.900 even who's a

00:29:37.460 person.

00:29:38.580 It just

00:29:39.060 shouldn't be

00:29:39.620 that person's

00:29:40.280 decision ever.

00:29:43.160 So, that

00:29:44.700 said, that

00:29:46.880 to my point

00:29:47.600 that the

00:29:48.120 public needs

00:29:48.920 to tell

00:29:49.440 Trump what

00:29:51.800 we're comfortable

00:29:52.460 with in the

00:29:53.420 life or death

00:29:54.040 situation.

00:29:55.540 So, some

00:29:56.240 things need to

00:29:56.900 come from the

00:29:57.460 leader and

00:29:58.500 sometimes the

00:29:59.440 leader just

00:29:59.860 needs to tell

00:30:00.440 the country

00:30:00.880 where we're

00:30:01.360 going and

00:30:02.320 that's your

00:30:02.720 best process.

00:30:04.300 There are lots

00:30:04.960 of cases,

00:30:05.540 certainly with

00:30:06.000 the commander-in-chief

00:30:06.820 situation where

00:30:08.200 you really, you

00:30:09.260 just need the

00:30:09.860 leader to just

00:30:10.500 tell you which

00:30:11.120 way you're

00:30:11.440 marching and

00:30:12.600 then if you're

00:30:13.140 being smart

00:30:13.780 about it, you

00:30:14.400 follow the

00:30:14.880 leader because

00:30:15.380 that's just your

00:30:15.920 best system in

00:30:17.140 some situations.

00:30:18.600 This is not

00:30:19.400 one of them.

00:30:20.540 This is a

00:30:21.180 situation in which

00:30:22.020 the leader is

00:30:22.980 necessarily

00:30:23.760 handicapped and

00:30:26.120 you want him to

00:30:26.800 be.

00:30:27.360 You don't want to

00:30:28.140 change that because

00:30:29.480 again, you don't

00:30:30.620 want your

00:30:31.040 president to

00:30:32.440 decide who's

00:30:33.280 worthy of life

00:30:34.120 and death.

00:30:35.180 I do not

00:30:35.940 want the

00:30:36.380 leader, the

00:30:36.940 number one

00:30:37.400 leader in the

00:30:37.860 country to

00:30:38.880 stand in front

00:30:39.480 of the world

00:30:39.900 and say, you

00:30:40.360 know, I

00:30:42.100 think that I'm

00:30:43.180 going to favor

00:30:43.660 the people who

00:30:44.440 want to get

00:30:44.760 back to work

00:30:45.500 and I'm going

00:30:46.780 to let 50,000

00:30:47.700 grandmothers die.

00:30:49.600 It shouldn't be

00:30:50.240 his decision.

00:30:51.600 It shouldn't be

00:30:52.240 in his job

00:30:52.800 description even

00:30:53.600 though it has

00:30:54.060 to be, right?

00:30:55.240 Ultimately, he

00:30:55.880 has to make the

00:30:56.420 decision.

00:30:56.920 You can't change

00:30:57.560 that.

00:30:57.800 But I think

00:30:59.620 we need to

00:31:00.300 give him some

00:31:01.400 cover.

00:31:03.180 And this is not

00:31:04.140 about Trump.

00:31:04.700 It's just about

00:31:05.200 whoever is

00:31:05.760 president.

00:31:06.700 The citizens

00:31:07.620 need to give

00:31:08.380 the leader

00:31:08.840 some cover.

00:31:10.520 And what I

00:31:10.920 mean by that

00:31:11.440 is that we

00:31:12.080 need to really

00:31:14.300 wrestle with

00:31:15.040 this question

00:31:15.680 of what we

00:31:17.220 are willing to

00:31:18.300 accept collectively

00:31:19.420 as a risk

00:31:21.680 to get back

00:31:23.420 to work.

00:31:24.540 So we as

00:31:25.780 non-politicians

00:31:26.860 can say this

00:31:28.300 and watch me

00:31:29.820 say it right

00:31:30.380 out loud.

00:31:31.140 And I can only

00:31:31.820 say this because

00:31:32.360 I'm not president.

00:31:33.600 If I were

00:31:34.320 president, I'd

00:31:35.120 just shut my

00:31:35.700 mouth.

00:31:36.660 But let me

00:31:37.320 say it as a

00:31:37.920 citizen.

00:31:39.540 Somewhere at

00:31:40.300 around less

00:31:41.460 than 50,000

00:31:42.580 extra deaths

00:31:43.540 over the course

00:31:44.300 of the year,

00:31:45.080 I would be

00:31:46.280 comfortable with

00:31:47.760 the trade-offs

00:31:48.520 to get us

00:31:49.860 back to work.

00:31:51.320 So that's my

00:31:52.140 number.

00:31:52.900 I feel that if

00:31:53.880 you want to give

00:31:54.440 the president

00:31:55.000 some cover,

00:31:55.780 which allows

00:31:57.260 the country

00:31:58.320 to make

00:31:58.720 rational decisions

00:31:59.720 and allows

00:32:00.380 the president

00:32:01.360 to do what

00:32:01.900 he needs to

00:32:02.420 do, as

00:32:03.680 opposed to

00:32:04.160 being bound

00:32:04.700 by what I

00:32:05.540 consider the

00:32:06.100 most sacred

00:32:06.740 rule of the

00:32:08.280 presidency, is

00:32:09.220 he doesn't get

00:32:09.820 to decide who

00:32:10.440 to kill.

00:32:12.100 So you need

00:32:13.000 to take that

00:32:13.700 away from him

00:32:14.400 because he

00:32:16.220 doesn't want

00:32:16.780 it.

00:32:17.720 I mean, I

00:32:18.820 can't read his

00:32:19.480 mind, but I

00:32:20.000 don't imagine

00:32:20.500 anybody would

00:32:21.220 want to have

00:32:22.580 that on their

00:32:23.080 conscience, want

00:32:23.980 that to be part

00:32:24.540 of their

00:32:24.720 decision, but

00:32:25.760 we can take

00:32:26.320 that away.

00:32:27.180 We can fix

00:32:28.000 that collectively.

00:32:29.580 And it doesn't

00:32:30.240 mean that we

00:32:30.680 all have to

00:32:31.120 agree, right?

00:32:32.580 So it's not

00:32:33.380 even about the

00:32:34.780 country getting

00:32:35.860 on the same

00:32:36.420 page and then

00:32:37.340 the president

00:32:38.180 can do that

00:32:39.020 too.

00:32:39.680 It's more

00:32:40.140 about the

00:32:40.520 public being

00:32:44.840 adults.

00:32:46.740 And here's

00:32:47.440 what I mean.

00:32:48.180 Here's the

00:32:48.660 adult view.

00:32:49.520 The adult view

00:32:50.320 is some number

00:32:51.700 of people are

00:32:52.240 going to die

00:32:52.740 either way.

00:32:54.060 I think this

00:32:54.880 will be the

00:32:55.340 path with the

00:32:56.200 least death and

00:32:56.880 destruction, so I

00:32:57.840 choose this.

00:32:58.420 That's what an

00:32:59.100 adult would say.

00:33:00.820 Here's what a

00:33:01.580 child would say.

00:33:04.600 A child would

00:33:05.540 say, oh, sure,

00:33:07.180 the 50,000 deaths

00:33:08.220 is fine as long

00:33:09.200 as it's not your

00:33:09.880 family, right?

00:33:11.340 I just saw this

00:33:12.360 on Twitter.

00:33:13.300 That's a child's

00:33:14.300 view.

00:33:15.600 The child's view

00:33:16.760 is, well, you'd

00:33:18.120 think differently if

00:33:19.200 it were your

00:33:19.660 family member.

00:33:20.320 That's just a

00:33:22.080 child's view.

00:33:23.320 I'm not even

00:33:24.000 going to tell you

00:33:24.400 what's wrong

00:33:24.940 with it, except

00:33:26.300 that it's not an

00:33:26.980 adult opinion.

00:33:28.280 So to the

00:33:28.920 extent we can,

00:33:30.780 let us see if we

00:33:32.000 can shame the

00:33:32.860 child opinions to

00:33:34.540 the sidelines.

00:33:36.080 The old, well,

00:33:36.900 you'd feel

00:33:37.360 differently if it

00:33:38.100 was your mother.

00:33:39.200 Yeah, of course

00:33:39.720 I would.

00:33:40.440 That's not new

00:33:41.660 information.

00:33:43.320 But we're

00:33:43.980 adults.

00:33:44.920 We're going to

00:33:45.480 make decisions,

00:33:46.360 and it might be

00:33:47.100 my family member

00:33:48.040 who gets killed

00:33:48.800 who's in the

00:33:49.500 $50,000.

00:33:50.580 It might be

00:33:51.320 yours.

00:33:52.240 Nobody wants

00:33:52.940 that.

00:33:54.340 We've still got

00:33:54.920 to get back

00:33:55.300 to work.

00:33:56.920 So I put down

00:33:59.200 my stake under

00:34:00.060 $50,000 because

00:34:01.060 I think we can

00:34:01.680 do that.

00:34:03.060 My guess is if

00:34:04.220 you netted out

00:34:05.060 the lives that

00:34:06.640 have been saved

00:34:07.420 and then you

00:34:07.840 add in maybe

00:34:08.420 there's more

00:34:08.840 domestic abuse,

00:34:10.100 unfortunately.

00:34:11.560 So if you do

00:34:12.500 the full net

00:34:13.200 of how many

00:34:13.700 people died

00:34:14.320 because of

00:34:14.980 the economy

00:34:16.220 taking a hit,

00:34:17.480 if you netted

00:34:18.260 it all up,

00:34:20.580 $50,000 is

00:34:21.800 where I'm

00:34:22.140 comfortable.

00:34:23.260 I'm not

00:34:23.600 happy.

00:34:24.900 Nobody's happy,

00:34:26.180 right?

00:34:26.460 About $50,000

00:34:27.300 people dying.

00:34:28.380 But there is

00:34:28.960 a point where

00:34:29.480 you just say,

00:34:30.080 all right,

00:34:30.980 got to be

00:34:31.520 adult.

00:34:32.620 Time to make

00:34:33.220 an adult choice.

00:34:34.160 Time to grow

00:34:34.680 up.

00:34:35.540 Time to get

00:34:36.280 on the team.

00:34:36.960 Time to do

00:34:37.320 what's good

00:34:37.640 for the country.

00:34:39.040 Time to take

00:34:39.760 some sacrifice

00:34:40.600 for the country.

00:34:41.960 So I

00:34:44.120 probably will

00:34:45.120 bore you

00:34:45.560 to death

00:34:46.200 on this

00:34:46.780 point.

00:34:47.420 I just

00:34:47.980 want it to

00:34:48.480 be more

00:34:49.080 a part of

00:34:49.520 the conversation

00:34:50.260 and not

00:34:51.380 ignored.

00:34:52.280 Because for

00:34:53.920 the next few

00:34:54.460 days, I think

00:34:55.040 what you're

00:34:55.420 going to see

00:34:55.820 is all the

00:34:56.440 talking heads

00:34:57.180 talking like

00:34:58.480 children.

00:34:59.980 Because it's

00:35:00.680 a little too

00:35:01.360 dangerous to

00:35:02.060 be an adult

00:35:02.740 in public

00:35:03.320 right now.

00:35:04.800 Because critics

00:35:06.120 will jump on

00:35:06.780 you.

00:35:07.520 But what I'd

00:35:08.140 like to see

00:35:08.780 is in

00:35:10.900 the next

00:35:11.220 week, I

00:35:12.140 want you to

00:35:12.560 see if at

00:35:13.340 least the

00:35:13.760 public pundits

00:35:14.840 and the

00:35:15.360 opinion people,

00:35:16.440 I want you to

00:35:16.860 see if I can

00:35:17.420 get them to

00:35:18.060 shift a little

00:35:19.060 bit from

00:35:20.460 talking about

00:35:21.120 the question

00:35:21.620 of orange

00:35:22.940 man bad,

00:35:23.760 orange man

00:35:24.220 good, and

00:35:25.300 stuff like

00:35:25.700 that, to

00:35:26.640 we are going

00:35:27.480 to have to

00:35:27.780 make a

00:35:28.080 decision about

00:35:28.820 people dying.

00:35:30.540 And let's

00:35:31.140 see if we

00:35:31.520 can even

00:35:31.900 have that

00:35:32.460 conversation

00:35:33.120 and are

00:35:34.820 we even

00:35:35.180 capable of

00:35:35.920 talking about

00:35:36.440 it in

00:35:36.700 public.

00:35:37.640 So I'd

00:35:37.940 like to

00:35:38.240 this week,

00:35:39.140 I would

00:35:40.180 like to

00:35:40.520 see the

00:35:41.240 public

00:35:42.000 pundits be

00:35:42.860 able to

00:35:43.480 give a

00:35:43.860 number and

00:35:45.020 say, you

00:35:45.320 know, there's

00:35:46.660 no way around

00:35:47.220 this, there's

00:35:47.680 going to be a

00:35:48.140 number on

00:35:48.860 the number of

00:35:49.320 people who

00:35:49.680 die.

00:35:50.100 There's going

00:35:50.440 to be a

00:35:50.720 number.

00:35:51.780 So if

00:35:52.420 you're not

00:35:52.740 willing to

00:35:53.120 say your

00:35:53.580 number out

00:35:54.080 loud, you

00:35:55.500 shouldn't be

00:35:55.940 in the

00:35:56.180 conversation.

00:35:57.680 Now, maybe

00:35:58.380 for this next

00:35:58.980 week, people

00:35:59.560 want to still

00:36:00.080 be children

00:36:00.880 and say,

00:36:01.660 well, let's

00:36:02.640 kill nobody.

00:36:04.100 Well, I'm

00:36:04.820 not going to

00:36:05.120 do anything

00:36:05.480 that would

00:36:05.700 kill my

00:36:06.100 grandma.

00:36:06.400 let's see

00:36:08.120 if we can

00:36:08.540 reduce that

00:36:09.320 opinion and

00:36:09.980 get people

00:36:10.500 to, you

00:36:11.380 know, if

00:36:11.980 it means

00:36:12.340 50,000 or

00:36:13.380 100,000, this

00:36:14.300 is where I'm

00:36:14.760 comfortable.

00:36:15.860 And it's

00:36:16.980 not until all

00:36:17.900 of us have

00:36:18.520 at least

00:36:19.020 given our

00:36:20.860 number that

00:36:22.800 the president

00:36:23.300 is safe.

00:36:23.900 because if

00:36:25.060 we've all

00:36:25.540 given our

00:36:26.020 number, then

00:36:27.400 he can say,

00:36:28.060 all right, given

00:36:28.500 all this

00:36:28.940 input, this

00:36:30.200 is where the

00:36:30.660 country is, this

00:36:31.540 is, you know,

00:36:32.160 the mood of

00:36:32.720 the room, I

00:36:34.100 can now pick

00:36:35.060 from that

00:36:35.520 palette of

00:36:36.160 options that

00:36:36.880 the country

00:36:37.320 has given

00:36:37.800 me.

00:36:38.540 But what

00:36:39.140 you don't

00:36:39.580 want is

00:36:40.820 your president

00:36:41.340 out there

00:36:41.860 naked.

00:36:42.840 He's got a

00:36:43.520 blank canvas,

00:36:44.700 and then he

00:36:45.280 just puts his

00:36:45.860 finger in the

00:36:46.380 middle of the

00:36:46.720 canvas and

00:36:47.220 says, that's

00:36:48.220 my number of

00:36:48.860 people I'm

00:36:49.300 going to kill

00:36:49.880 to get the

00:36:52.000 economy back up

00:36:52.920 so I can get

00:36:53.440 elected.

00:36:53.880 That's what it's

00:36:54.240 going to look

00:36:54.560 like, right?

00:36:55.340 It's going to

00:36:55.840 look like the

00:36:56.300 president decided

00:36:57.020 to kill however

00:36:59.040 many people so

00:37:00.020 he could get

00:37:00.440 reelected.

00:37:01.220 That's how it's

00:37:01.820 going to be

00:37:02.140 spun.

00:37:03.280 So if you

00:37:03.680 want to take

00:37:04.100 that risk away

00:37:07.300 from your

00:37:07.680 leader so he

00:37:08.300 can make a

00:37:08.740 decision that

00:37:10.100 makes sense

00:37:10.740 for the

00:37:11.060 country, give

00:37:12.580 a number.

00:37:13.920 Commit.

00:37:15.120 You don't have

00:37:15.680 to be right,

00:37:16.920 but at least

00:37:17.360 make it safe for

00:37:18.500 other people to

00:37:19.220 give a number.

00:37:20.340 You've got to

00:37:20.880 make it safe.

00:37:22.020 Here's a

00:37:22.480 little persuasion

00:37:23.580 rule that is

00:37:25.440 sort of implied

00:37:26.120 in what I'm

00:37:26.540 saying, but I'm

00:37:27.820 going to say it

00:37:28.240 explicitly.

00:37:29.680 People can get

00:37:30.680 used to almost

00:37:31.620 anything.

00:37:34.000 People can get

00:37:35.000 used to almost

00:37:36.140 anything.

00:37:37.120 So the first

00:37:37.980 time you hear,

00:37:38.940 hey, hey,

00:37:40.160 Bob, you're

00:37:40.720 going to have to

00:37:40.940 make a decision.

00:37:42.020 Are 100,000

00:37:43.480 people going to

00:37:44.080 die?

00:37:45.060 It's up to you.

00:37:45.900 Do you want

00:37:46.160 100,000 people

00:37:46.880 to die?

00:37:47.480 Well, the first

00:37:48.060 time you're

00:37:48.520 presented with

00:37:49.560 this decision

00:37:50.260 where you put

00:37:51.600 yourself in

00:37:52.080 the president's

00:37:52.660 shoes and you

00:37:53.160 say, okay, am

00:37:54.480 I going to let

00:37:55.020 50,000 people

00:37:56.300 die that might

00:37:58.380 not have died

00:37:59.060 in other

00:37:59.700 situations?

00:38:03.260 And the

00:38:05.440 first time that

00:38:06.140 you have to go

00:38:06.740 through that

00:38:07.160 thought process

00:38:07.960 is jarring and

00:38:09.820 you're going to

00:38:10.180 want to just

00:38:10.640 change the

00:38:11.140 subject.

00:38:12.660 But you need

00:38:13.560 to kind of get

00:38:14.240 used to it.

00:38:15.660 Because it's not

00:38:16.560 until we can

00:38:17.240 comfortably say

00:38:18.280 50,000 or

00:38:19.720 100,000 out

00:38:20.740 loud in

00:38:21.160 public just

00:38:22.940 to show we

00:38:23.440 can even talk

00:38:24.020 about the

00:38:24.400 topic, just

00:38:25.840 to show we're

00:38:26.340 no longer

00:38:26.740 shocked by it.

00:38:27.460 We're going

00:38:28.900 to have to

00:38:29.220 acclimate

00:38:29.780 ourselves to

00:38:30.580 being able to

00:38:31.200 talk about

00:38:31.700 these big

00:38:32.140 numbers just

00:38:33.580 so psychologically

00:38:34.440 we can get

00:38:35.160 to the other

00:38:35.580 side.

00:38:36.780 So I'll be

00:38:37.340 priming the

00:38:37.860 pump for

00:38:38.200 that.

00:38:39.300 What else

00:38:39.820 is happening

00:38:40.220 that you care

00:38:41.440 about besides

00:38:42.140 Dr. Shiva?

00:38:42.920 It was

00:38:48.580 called

00:38:48.780 Vietnam.

00:38:49.720 That is a

00:38:50.880 good analogy.

00:38:53.800 Analogies

00:38:54.480 don't win

00:38:54.940 arguments but

00:38:55.900 they're often

00:38:57.220 entertaining and

00:38:58.680 sometimes they

00:38:59.320 can educate.

00:39:00.940 And the

00:39:01.300 Vietnam example

00:39:02.820 was perfect.

00:39:04.900 Yeah,

00:39:05.120 Vietnam was

00:39:05.800 acceptable because

00:39:06.700 we sort of

00:39:07.320 inched our way

00:39:08.200 into it.

00:39:09.860 If we knew

00:39:10.740 from the

00:39:11.100 start, it's

00:39:11.540 like,

00:39:11.740 we're going

00:39:12.180 to lose

00:39:12.520 this many

00:39:13.520 people.

00:39:14.760 If we knew

00:39:15.440 that on

00:39:15.780 day one,

00:39:16.400 the public

00:39:16.740 would have

00:39:17.000 said,

00:39:17.260 I'm not

00:39:17.700 down for

00:39:18.060 that.

00:39:19.220 But if

00:39:19.580 you say,

00:39:19.960 well, we

00:39:20.300 lost 100

00:39:21.100 people today

00:39:21.800 and 110

00:39:23.040 the next

00:39:24.100 day, it

00:39:24.980 just sort of

00:39:25.400 sneaks up

00:39:25.880 on you.

00:39:26.840 That was a

00:39:27.200 good example.

00:39:29.960 But you

00:39:30.500 need to define

00:39:31.140 how to get

00:39:31.620 to that

00:39:31.900 number.

00:39:32.440 Okay, let

00:39:33.740 me define

00:39:34.240 it for the

00:39:34.740 billionth time.

00:39:36.620 I always

00:39:37.440 define it as

00:39:38.240 net, meaning

00:39:40.040 that you

00:39:40.520 look at what

00:39:41.540 the normal

00:39:42.000 number of

00:39:42.500 deaths are

00:39:42.980 every year,

00:39:43.920 and then you

00:39:44.560 look at this

00:39:45.080 period this

00:39:46.320 year, and

00:39:47.660 if normally

00:39:48.420 we'd lose

00:39:49.280 40,000 people

00:39:50.740 a month or

00:39:51.280 whatever it

00:39:51.660 is, and

00:39:52.900 this month

00:39:54.000 we lost

00:39:54.600 45,000, I'd

00:39:56.060 say the net

00:39:56.480 is five.

00:39:57.740 Now, I don't

00:39:58.160 care how many

00:39:58.740 of those are

00:39:59.160 coronavirus, and

00:40:00.060 I don't care how

00:40:00.580 many is the

00:40:01.220 reduced traffic

00:40:03.000 accidents, it's

00:40:03.720 just all in the

00:40:04.340 number.

00:40:05.260 Why would you

00:40:06.000 ever look at

00:40:07.860 any number that

00:40:08.520 wasn't net?

00:40:09.200 death count, and

00:40:10.020 this is the

00:40:11.040 part that if

00:40:12.240 you have any

00:40:12.660 training in

00:40:13.680 doing financial

00:40:15.520 analysis, it

00:40:17.180 gets really

00:40:17.700 annoying when

00:40:18.320 people ask you

00:40:19.060 if important

00:40:19.860 numbers are

00:40:20.420 included in

00:40:21.060 the figure,

00:40:22.020 because of

00:40:22.640 course they

00:40:23.080 are.

00:40:23.760 They're important

00:40:24.380 numbers, of

00:40:25.520 course they're

00:40:25.980 included, because

00:40:27.420 they matter.

00:40:28.980 So you don't

00:40:29.420 need to ask me

00:40:30.140 about, here's

00:40:31.540 what you don't

00:40:31.940 ever need to

00:40:32.500 do.

00:40:32.700 if you can

00:40:34.000 think of

00:40:34.500 something that

00:40:36.260 would be

00:40:36.600 different about

00:40:37.120 the death

00:40:37.460 count, either

00:40:38.260 more domestic

00:40:39.280 abuse, more

00:40:41.820 suicide, more

00:40:43.640 death from

00:40:44.100 economics, you

00:40:45.200 know, whatever

00:40:46.440 it is, it's in

00:40:48.800 the number.

00:40:50.080 So everything,

00:40:51.320 just everything,

00:40:52.080 you don't have to

00:40:52.520 ask about the

00:40:53.020 details.

00:40:53.740 If you can

00:40:54.540 calculate it, it's

00:40:55.520 in there.

00:40:57.320 All right.

00:41:01.260 How many

00:41:01.880 business owners

00:41:02.600 had a stroke?

00:41:03.720 No one's

00:41:04.340 counting that.

00:41:05.660 Well, again, if

00:41:06.840 you count just

00:41:07.740 the total number

00:41:08.540 of deaths this

00:41:09.460 year compared to

00:41:10.340 other years,

00:41:11.340 probably they

00:41:12.320 would be very

00:41:12.840 similar, meaning

00:41:14.240 you're probably

00:41:14.920 always within, I

00:41:16.060 don't know, 5%.

00:41:17.380 Any month, if

00:41:18.960 you looked at

00:41:19.320 any month in a

00:41:20.120 normal year to

00:41:20.840 the year before,

00:41:21.660 it's probably

00:41:22.140 about the same

00:41:22.800 number of

00:41:23.240 accidents, you

00:41:24.080 know, 5%

00:41:24.740 difference.

00:41:25.940 So if you see

00:41:26.520 a bigger difference

00:41:27.260 than that during

00:41:28.600 the coronavirus

00:41:29.200 deaths, you

00:41:31.020 could reasonably

00:41:31.880 attribute it

00:41:32.580 to this

00:41:33.140 situation.

00:41:38.140 Let's see.

00:41:40.220 Just remember

00:41:41.140 the lag, yeah.

00:41:43.600 The elderly are

00:41:44.700 more susceptible

00:41:45.380 and they tend

00:41:46.040 to vote for

00:41:46.660 Trump.

00:41:48.740 True.

00:41:49.700 Wouldn't you

00:41:50.120 like to see a

00:41:50.760 survey of people

00:41:51.980 over 60?

00:41:54.260 What if you

00:41:55.000 asked, if you

00:41:55.740 asked the people,

00:41:56.620 you know, say

00:41:57.580 under 40, how

00:41:59.220 many deaths

00:41:59.780 would you be

00:42:00.300 willing to

00:42:01.040 accept?

00:42:02.220 And I think

00:42:02.560 what you'd

00:42:03.040 find is a

00:42:03.980 lot.

00:42:05.260 I think you

00:42:05.760 would find

00:42:06.120 that the

00:42:06.560 younger people

00:42:07.300 resent the

00:42:09.180 elderly quite

00:42:10.740 a bit because

00:42:12.540 they feel like

00:42:13.260 the elderly

00:42:13.780 had a good

00:42:14.540 life and

00:42:15.660 used everything

00:42:16.360 up and

00:42:16.960 left them

00:42:17.340 nothing but

00:42:17.900 debt in a

00:42:19.020 smoldering

00:42:19.440 world.

00:42:20.660 It's a little

00:42:21.280 bit of an

00:42:21.640 exaggeration, but

00:42:22.480 not too

00:42:23.360 bad.

00:42:27.920 Somebody

00:42:28.360 asked, what

00:42:28.840 about the

00:42:29.240 surge?

00:42:29.860 Do we

00:42:30.080 need to

00:42:30.360 wait until

00:42:30.860 after that?

00:42:31.980 Well, we

00:42:32.360 do.

00:42:33.080 We do need

00:42:33.680 to wait.

00:42:34.540 I'd say

00:42:35.120 another week

00:42:35.800 we'll have a

00:42:36.220 good idea

00:42:36.660 what's happening.

00:42:37.680 So we

00:42:38.320 probably can't

00:42:38.900 make a final

00:42:39.480 decision for

00:42:40.720 at least a

00:42:41.660 week and

00:42:42.620 realistically we

00:42:44.000 wouldn't make

00:42:44.540 it then either.

00:42:45.220 We'd probably

00:42:45.540 wait two weeks.

00:42:46.640 But this is the

00:42:47.380 point where we

00:42:47.940 should start

00:42:48.280 making the

00:42:48.720 plans because

00:42:49.760 whether or not

00:42:50.360 that surge

00:42:51.740 is two weeks

00:42:53.240 away or one

00:42:54.040 week away.

00:42:54.800 I'm not sure

00:42:55.680 we can predict

00:42:56.360 that stuff so

00:42:57.180 well.

00:42:58.260 But no matter

00:42:59.140 when it

00:42:59.500 comes, you

00:43:01.100 need to get

00:43:01.540 to the other

00:43:01.980 side to make

00:43:02.580 the final

00:43:03.100 decision.

00:43:04.020 But I feel

00:43:04.640 like we can

00:43:05.560 feel it coming

00:43:06.460 in a way that

00:43:09.060 we probably

00:43:09.740 want to at

00:43:10.800 least make the

00:43:11.340 plan.

00:43:13.160 Yeah, I think

00:43:14.020 people over 60

00:43:14.960 might be more

00:43:16.700 flexible than

00:43:17.740 people assume

00:43:18.560 because, you

00:43:20.060 know,

00:43:20.160 when you

00:43:20.720 reach a

00:43:21.040 certain age,

00:43:21.580 especially if

00:43:22.100 you're 80,

00:43:23.080 I can imagine

00:43:23.860 a lot of

00:43:24.300 80-year-olds

00:43:24.960 saying, hey,

00:43:26.740 I had a good

00:43:27.500 run.

00:43:28.880 You know, if

00:43:29.340 you ask me,

00:43:30.400 do I want,

00:43:31.560 if you ask the

00:43:32.280 average 80-year-old,

00:43:33.740 here's the deal.

00:43:35.100 We could give

00:43:35.840 you an average

00:43:37.120 of three more

00:43:37.980 extra years of

00:43:38.760 life, but it's

00:43:40.360 three years in

00:43:41.280 your 80s and

00:43:42.600 you're probably in

00:43:43.280 the nursing home

00:43:43.860 anyway.

00:43:44.940 So you get

00:43:45.640 three more of

00:43:46.320 those worst

00:43:47.120 years of your

00:43:47.740 life, the last

00:43:48.520 three,

00:43:48.860 country, or

00:43:50.800 you could save

00:43:52.780 the country.

00:43:54.260 So you get

00:43:55.400 three years of

00:43:56.220 crappy end of

00:43:57.120 life, or you

00:43:58.960 can save the

00:43:59.620 economy of the

00:44:00.320 United States

00:44:00.960 for your

00:44:01.380 children and

00:44:01.960 grandchildren.

00:44:03.200 What does the

00:44:04.040 80-year-old say

00:44:05.040 to that?

00:44:08.200 I've got a

00:44:08.960 feeling that they

00:44:09.820 would very

00:44:10.320 strongly lean

00:44:11.680 toward, I

00:44:12.840 had a good

00:44:13.280 run.

00:44:14.520 Don't you

00:44:15.140 think?

00:44:15.700 I think if

00:44:16.340 you ask the

00:44:16.860 people who

00:44:17.320 are most at

00:44:18.000 risk, they

00:44:19.280 would say,

00:44:19.720 yeah, I'm

00:44:20.060 scared, you

00:44:20.920 know, and

00:44:21.480 all that, but

00:44:22.860 you know, if I

00:44:23.680 have to choose,

00:44:25.620 I'm going to

00:44:26.440 choose the

00:44:26.840 grandchildren.

00:44:27.880 I had a good

00:44:28.560 run.

00:44:28.880 I don't need

00:44:29.360 three extra

00:44:30.040 years of this,

00:44:31.100 whatever this is,

00:44:31.980 when you're 80.

00:44:33.580 So I would

00:44:37.100 not assume that

00:44:38.080 the elderly need

00:44:40.260 the kind of

00:44:40.780 protection as a

00:44:42.800 class.

00:44:43.240 obviously

00:44:43.740 individuals will

00:44:44.580 differ, but as

00:44:45.840 a class, I

00:44:46.560 don't know if

00:44:46.980 they're asking

00:44:47.480 for the

00:44:47.860 protection that

00:44:48.460 we're offering,

00:44:49.240 you know, given

00:44:49.680 the trade-off that

00:44:51.040 it would hurt

00:44:51.680 their grandchildren,

00:44:52.600 et cetera.

00:44:54.060 Somebody says,

00:44:54.760 you first.

00:44:56.180 Yeah.

00:45:01.280 Now, people in

00:45:02.400 their 70s, I

00:45:03.560 would expect to

00:45:04.160 have a different

00:45:04.680 opinion, because

00:45:05.440 70s are actually

00:45:06.380 still pretty good

00:45:07.120 years.

00:45:08.740 I'm expecting

00:45:09.600 that my 70s will

00:45:10.660 be a pretty good

00:45:12.120 decade, actually.

00:45:13.240 as long as I

00:45:14.200 stay healthy.

00:45:18.480 Now, the other

00:45:19.500 thing is that if

00:45:20.500 you're one of the

00:45:21.780 older people who

00:45:22.580 does not want to

00:45:23.520 sacrifice your

00:45:24.820 life, you do

00:45:26.620 have the option

00:45:27.280 of taking extreme

00:45:28.580 steps.

00:45:30.060 So you could,

00:45:31.480 you know, do

00:45:32.000 extreme social

00:45:32.920 isolation and

00:45:33.760 masking and stuff

00:45:34.660 for another

00:45:35.420 X months until

00:45:37.080 you felt safe.

00:45:38.240 So people who

00:45:39.060 did not want to

00:45:39.860 take the personal

00:45:40.560 risk, they were

00:45:41.580 willing to take

00:45:42.260 the class risk

00:45:43.640 of like, okay,

00:45:44.920 old people are

00:45:45.540 going to have a

00:45:46.000 tough time, I'll

00:45:46.580 take that risk, but

00:45:47.660 I don't want to

00:45:48.140 personally take the

00:45:48.960 risk.

00:45:49.700 They have that

00:45:50.460 option, too.

00:45:51.660 They can reduce

00:45:52.380 their own risk to

00:45:53.240 practically nothing

00:45:54.060 if they have the

00:45:56.200 wherewithal to get

00:45:56.900 social isolation.

00:45:57.860 I guess that's not

00:45:58.480 available to everybody.

00:45:59.300 So let's figure that

00:46:04.500 out.

00:46:06.180 A young life is

00:46:07.360 worth more than a

00:46:08.320 lived life, says

00:46:10.400 somebody.

00:46:11.520 Well, I would say

00:46:12.840 there's a lot of

00:46:13.740 individual difference

00:46:14.980 there.

00:46:16.500 As a good general

00:46:17.560 statement, sure.

00:46:19.380 Somebody says the

00:46:20.320 White House press

00:46:21.100 secretary is gone.

00:46:22.900 Is that news?

00:46:25.240 Did that just

00:46:26.060 happen?

00:46:26.340 70-year-olds

00:46:29.420 volunteered to

00:46:30.140 clean up the

00:46:30.640 mess of Fukushima.

00:46:32.200 That does not

00:46:33.140 surprise me.

00:46:34.740 Let's see if

00:46:35.940 there's any news

00:46:37.000 about the press

00:46:38.180 secretary.

00:46:41.660 Coroners cast doubt

00:46:42.880 on official

00:46:43.480 coronavirus death

00:46:44.600 tolls.

00:46:45.160 CNN exclusive.

00:46:47.140 Interesting.

00:46:49.220 Interesting.

00:46:49.820 Let me just see

00:46:51.880 what the headline

00:46:52.360 is.

00:46:53.940 Coroners.

00:46:56.940 Yeah, because

00:46:57.720 nobody's really

00:46:58.760 testing them to

00:46:59.640 see if they died

00:47:00.340 from the

00:47:01.000 coronavirus.

00:47:05.660 So apparently

00:47:06.660 there's just a

00:47:07.260 mess with the

00:47:08.020 reporting it.

00:47:09.620 So that's why I

00:47:10.260 come out to the

00:47:11.460 you have to look at

00:47:12.700 just the total

00:47:13.440 average deaths in

00:47:14.560 the country year

00:47:15.880 to year because I

00:47:16.980 think that's the

00:47:17.420 only thing that's

00:47:17.960 going to tell us

00:47:18.440 what's going on.

00:47:19.820 Somebody says

00:47:22.140 I'm 61 not

00:47:23.200 ready to go

00:47:23.860 still working

00:47:24.580 in essential

00:47:25.400 job.

00:47:26.880 Well, you know

00:47:27.280 for the people

00:47:27.940 who it seems

00:47:30.700 to me that

00:47:32.600 let me let me

00:47:33.520 ask you this.

00:47:34.220 So to the

00:47:34.700 person who is

00:47:35.260 61 who works

00:47:36.540 in essential

00:47:37.060 job and

00:47:37.720 definitely doesn't

00:47:38.420 want to die

00:47:38.900 which I

00:47:40.160 certainly understand

00:47:40.960 would you feel

00:47:43.320 more comfortable

00:47:43.960 if they gave

00:47:44.740 you the

00:47:45.440 the Z-Pak

00:47:47.240 hydroxy

00:47:49.120 chloroquine

00:47:49.740 if they gave

00:47:50.640 it to you

00:47:51.220 as a

00:47:51.700 preventative

00:47:52.260 for a few

00:47:54.620 months during

00:47:55.280 the worst

00:47:55.740 of the

00:47:56.160 coronavirus

00:47:56.940 would you

00:47:57.900 feel comfortable

00:47:58.540 going back

00:47:59.040 to work

00:47:59.480 assuming you

00:48:01.020 did all your

00:48:01.460 social isolating

00:48:02.320 and your

00:48:02.660 masking and

00:48:03.300 stuff.

00:48:04.360 Would that

00:48:04.800 make you

00:48:05.200 comfortable

00:48:05.600 enough if

00:48:06.620 you just

00:48:06.980 knew that

00:48:07.320 you had

00:48:07.560 that drug

00:48:08.000 in you?

00:48:08.780 Now my

00:48:09.300 understanding

00:48:09.720 is it

00:48:10.140 doesn't

00:48:10.460 prevent

00:48:11.020 you from

00:48:12.160 getting it.

00:48:14.020 Maybe it

00:48:14.620 does but I

00:48:15.580 don't think

00:48:15.940 that's been

00:48:16.380 demonstrated

00:48:16.960 even

00:48:17.420 anecdotally

00:48:18.120 what

00:48:19.500 the reason

00:48:21.420 you would

00:48:21.660 have it

00:48:21.980 is that

00:48:22.360 if you

00:48:22.820 got the

00:48:23.140 infection

00:48:23.500 it would

00:48:23.840 already be

00:48:24.280 in your

00:48:24.540 system

00:48:25.040 so it

00:48:25.540 would be

00:48:25.720 the

00:48:25.940 you know

00:48:27.740 Fauci is

00:48:29.460 80?

00:48:30.980 Is he?

00:48:32.420 Fauci isn't

00:48:33.140 80 is he?

00:48:33.880 He's in great

00:48:34.340 shape if he's

00:48:34.960 80.

00:48:40.440 Coroners want

00:48:41.140 to know where

00:48:41.720 are the

00:48:42.120 bodies?

00:48:42.480 Well I

00:48:44.760 don't think

00:48:45.420 that there's

00:48:45.860 any scandal

00:48:46.500 of hiding

00:48:47.060 bodies is

00:48:47.820 there?

00:48:48.540 Didn't you

00:48:48.880 just hear

00:48:49.280 that wasn't

00:48:49.960 it one of

00:48:51.700 the parks

00:48:52.180 in New

00:48:53.260 York City

00:48:53.640 was going

00:48:54.000 to be

00:48:54.200 dug up

00:48:54.660 for temporary

00:48:55.580 mass graves?

00:48:57.180 Do we do

00:48:57.980 that every

00:48:58.400 year with

00:48:58.780 the regular

00:48:59.140 flu?

00:49:00.200 Do we

00:49:00.460 build mass

00:49:01.640 temporary

00:49:02.140 graves in

00:49:02.780 Central Park?

00:49:04.120 There's

00:49:04.400 something going

00:49:04.960 on here.

00:49:09.780 You can

00:49:10.460 die with

00:49:10.920 the virus

00:49:11.500 but not

00:49:12.000 from the

00:49:12.960 virus

00:49:13.400 it says

00:49:13.860 somebody.

00:49:18.580 All right

00:49:19.240 yeah so

00:49:19.720 people are

00:49:20.120 saying yes

00:49:20.600 that they

00:49:21.160 would feel

00:49:21.980 comfortable

00:49:22.480 going back.

00:49:23.520 Now keep

00:49:23.840 in mind

00:49:24.200 that for

00:49:26.120 every person

00:49:26.740 who has an

00:49:27.180 actual medical

00:49:28.060 like physical

00:49:29.040 medical problem

00:49:29.900 from the

00:49:30.380 coronavirus

00:49:30.760 there are

00:49:32.080 25 people

00:49:33.140 who have a

00:49:34.000 mental problem

00:49:34.640 from it.

00:49:35.820 So the

00:49:36.140 psychological

00:49:36.780 problem

00:49:38.400 of coronavirus

00:49:39.880 virus is

00:49:41.660 pretty big

00:49:42.280 you know

00:49:42.660 the risk

00:49:43.080 of getting

00:49:43.440 in the

00:49:43.820 worry

00:49:44.160 and all

00:49:44.500 that.

00:49:45.600 So if

00:49:46.180 the

00:49:46.540 hydroxychloroquine

00:49:48.720 did nothing

00:49:49.420 except make

00:49:50.420 you feel

00:49:50.800 more comfortable

00:49:51.460 even if you

00:49:53.160 weren't

00:49:53.500 it'd still

00:49:55.080 totally be

00:49:55.660 worth it.

00:49:57.900 It causes

00:49:58.680 depression in

00:49:59.480 the long run.

00:50:00.080 I don't know

00:50:00.320 what you're

00:50:00.520 talking about.

00:50:02.220 Fauci is

00:50:02.900 79.

00:50:03.540 People are

00:50:03.860 saying he

00:50:04.280 must

00:50:04.520 he runs

00:50:06.760 every day.

00:50:08.100 It looks

00:50:08.440 like he's

00:50:08.760 in good

00:50:09.000 shape.

00:50:11.880 That's a

00:50:12.520 good argument

00:50:13.020 for being

00:50:14.440 fit all

00:50:15.200 of your

00:50:15.480 life.

00:50:16.660 If you

00:50:16.860 look at

00:50:17.160 Fauci

00:50:17.680 he certainly

00:50:20.100 presents

00:50:20.720 himself as

00:50:21.320 a much

00:50:21.640 younger man

00:50:22.380 and that

00:50:23.780 would make

00:50:24.140 sense if

00:50:24.560 he runs

00:50:24.880 every day.

00:50:28.540 So I

00:50:29.700 have seen

00:50:30.060 people saying

00:50:30.720 that the

00:50:32.160 White House

00:50:33.920 spokesperson

00:50:35.280 quit.

00:50:36.360 I don't

00:50:36.700 know about

00:50:37.000 that.

00:50:39.860 Shouldn't

00:50:40.380 the homeless

00:50:40.860 be getting

00:50:41.380 the virus?

00:50:42.400 Well maybe.

00:50:46.260 We'll need

00:50:47.040 to bury

00:50:47.400 all the

00:50:47.760 ventilators.

00:50:49.560 You know

00:50:50.220 if I had

00:50:50.740 to guess

00:50:51.280 I think

00:50:53.380 that a

00:50:53.720 whole bunch

00:50:54.180 of big

00:50:54.840 American

00:50:55.260 companies

00:50:55.760 are going

00:50:56.080 to be

00:50:56.280 really pissed

00:50:56.940 off that

00:50:58.280 they started

00:50:58.940 making

00:50:59.320 ventilators

00:51:00.060 that we

00:51:00.680 didn't need.

00:51:01.840 I feel

00:51:02.720 like it's

00:51:03.080 heading in

00:51:03.400 that direction

00:51:03.880 now of

00:51:04.980 course it

00:51:05.480 makes more

00:51:05.900 sense to

00:51:06.380 be more

00:51:06.900 prepared

00:51:07.400 versus

00:51:08.400 underprepared

00:51:09.220 so we

00:51:10.260 should still

00:51:10.700 be making

00:51:11.120 those

00:51:11.360 ventilators

00:51:11.840 like crazy

00:51:12.420 just in

00:51:12.900 case.

00:51:14.020 But

00:51:14.140 so somebody

00:51:17.020 says Stephanie

00:51:17.660 Grisham is

00:51:18.300 reported to

00:51:19.060 be leaving

00:51:19.500 so maybe

00:51:20.600 that's not

00:51:21.200 maybe that's

00:51:23.340 not confirmed.

00:51:26.440 All right.

00:51:28.620 Okay I'm

00:51:29.500 getting

00:51:29.660 confirmations

00:51:30.380 of the

00:51:30.660 comments

00:51:31.000 that Stephanie

00:51:31.620 Grisham

00:51:32.060 stepped down.

00:51:32.960 that kind

00:51:33.740 of makes

00:51:34.000 sense

00:51:34.300 doesn't

00:51:34.620 it?

00:51:35.380 I don't

00:51:35.900 even know

00:51:36.200 what she

00:51:36.380 looks like.

00:51:38.240 The

00:51:38.640 spokesperson

00:51:39.160 for the

00:51:39.920 president of

00:51:40.420 the United

00:51:40.620 States

00:51:40.980 I can't

00:51:42.000 tell you

00:51:42.220 what she

00:51:42.460 looks like

00:51:42.900 I wouldn't

00:51:43.220 recognize her

00:51:43.780 would you?

00:51:45.060 And

00:51:45.360 I think

00:51:47.280 this president

00:51:47.880 doesn't really

00:51:48.460 need one of

00:51:49.000 those.

00:51:50.680 It seems

00:51:51.500 like an

00:51:51.800 almost

00:51:52.140 or at least

00:51:53.380 in terms of

00:51:53.840 the public

00:51:54.440 part where

00:51:54.960 the spokesperson

00:51:55.440 talks to

00:51:56.320 the public

00:51:56.800 don't really

00:51:57.800 need that

00:51:58.140 part.

00:51:58.380 so I

00:52:00.040 can see

00:52:00.360 why she

00:52:02.160 might want

00:52:02.480 to move

00:52:02.700 on.

00:52:06.420 Says she's

00:52:07.180 returning to

00:52:08.080 the First

00:52:09.260 Lady staff.

00:52:11.540 All right.

00:52:15.860 She was

00:52:16.560 reassigned to

00:52:17.200 her previous

00:52:17.620 post.

00:52:18.160 Okay.

00:52:20.500 Prisoners

00:52:20.980 should get

00:52:21.340 the Trump

00:52:21.740 pills.

00:52:22.140 Well we

00:52:22.420 should all

00:52:22.700 get the

00:52:22.980 Trump pills.

00:52:23.720 Obviously

00:52:24.120 there's not

00:52:24.720 a supply

00:52:26.080 of them.

00:52:26.500 wouldn't

00:52:28.600 you like

00:52:28.940 to have

00:52:29.180 some

00:52:29.360 visibility

00:52:29.860 on the

00:52:30.260 supply?

00:52:31.880 So the

00:52:32.620 president

00:52:32.920 said we

00:52:33.520 got X

00:52:34.580 millions of

00:52:35.140 pills from

00:52:35.800 this source

00:52:36.300 or this

00:52:36.600 source.

00:52:37.200 Is that

00:52:37.520 enough?

00:52:38.380 Is that

00:52:38.700 a lot?

00:52:39.700 What are

00:52:39.980 they doing

00:52:40.300 with them?

00:52:40.820 Are they

00:52:41.060 allocating

00:52:41.540 them?

00:52:42.100 Can

00:52:42.280 prisoners

00:52:42.660 get them?

00:52:43.700 How about

00:52:44.080 old people?

00:52:44.740 What about

00:52:45.040 people who

00:52:45.740 don't show

00:52:46.300 symptoms?

00:52:47.200 So it's

00:52:48.140 the most

00:52:48.460 important

00:52:48.780 variable in

00:52:49.460 which we

00:52:49.800 have no

00:52:50.200 information

00:52:50.680 at all.

00:52:52.680 And if

00:52:54.040 Stephanie

00:52:54.460 Grisham

00:52:54.960 had been

00:52:56.280 pushing

00:52:57.720 the task

00:53:00.080 force to

00:53:00.760 give good

00:53:02.060 information,

00:53:03.540 maybe that's

00:53:04.240 why she

00:53:04.500 got fired.

00:53:05.840 So think

00:53:06.260 about this.

00:53:07.620 Nobody's

00:53:08.180 complained about

00:53:08.780 the communication

00:53:09.520 of the task

00:53:10.120 force more

00:53:10.580 than I have.

00:53:11.160 Is that

00:53:11.380 true?

00:53:12.140 Would you

00:53:12.560 agree that

00:53:13.060 nobody has

00:53:13.700 had more

00:53:14.340 sharper,

00:53:16.440 deeper

00:53:16.720 complaints about

00:53:17.860 the quality

00:53:18.540 of the

00:53:18.840 communication

00:53:19.460 from the

00:53:20.700 task force

00:53:21.420 than me?

00:53:22.860 I've been

00:53:23.500 the harshest

00:53:24.340 about that.

00:53:24.900 I think a

00:53:25.400 total failure

00:53:26.300 in communication.

00:53:28.580 Specifically,

00:53:29.420 not telling

00:53:30.020 the public

00:53:30.560 a little

00:53:31.780 better idea

00:53:32.640 of at least

00:53:33.180 what they

00:53:33.580 know.

00:53:34.140 Even if

00:53:34.600 they don't

00:53:35.020 know things,

00:53:35.540 they should

00:53:35.780 tell us

00:53:36.080 what they

00:53:36.360 don't know

00:53:36.820 and what

00:53:37.080 they do

00:53:37.360 know about

00:53:38.320 the supply

00:53:38.900 situation

00:53:39.620 and the

00:53:41.000 hydroxychloroquine

00:53:41.960 and the

00:53:42.300 ventilators and

00:53:42.900 everything else.

00:53:43.780 So I've

00:53:44.040 been the

00:53:44.520 harshest

00:53:44.980 critic saying

00:53:45.860 that the

00:53:46.180 whole things

00:53:46.720 are just

00:53:47.200 a horrible,

00:53:51.720 I don't want

00:53:52.360 to use the

00:53:52.840 word I

00:53:53.100 was going

00:53:53.320 to use.

00:53:54.280 But would

00:53:56.780 it be a

00:53:57.240 surprise to

00:53:57.920 me to

00:53:59.300 watch a

00:53:59.800 person who

00:54:00.400 is a

00:54:00.800 professional

00:54:01.500 in charge

00:54:02.240 of this

00:54:03.560 kind of

00:54:03.960 communication

00:54:04.620 have some

00:54:06.740 conflict with

00:54:07.520 the people

00:54:07.900 who are

00:54:08.200 blowing it

00:54:08.860 in public

00:54:09.580 every day?

00:54:10.980 Now in

00:54:11.600 my opinion,

00:54:12.760 the task

00:54:13.280 force is

00:54:13.820 blowing it

00:54:14.400 every day.

00:54:15.360 Like they're

00:54:15.880 failing,

00:54:16.600 it's just

00:54:16.980 an F.

00:54:18.160 In

00:54:18.460 communicating

00:54:19.260 with the

00:54:19.740 public,

00:54:20.080 I would

00:54:20.280 say it's

00:54:20.820 just a

00:54:21.300 flat F

00:54:22.680 day after

00:54:23.260 day.

00:54:25.580 It's always

00:54:26.180 the same

00:54:26.520 reason.

00:54:27.100 It's not

00:54:27.420 that the

00:54:27.720 president isn't

00:54:28.520 entertaining,

00:54:29.260 it's not

00:54:29.560 that he

00:54:29.800 doesn't get

00:54:30.260 good ratings,

00:54:32.040 it's not

00:54:32.380 that the

00:54:32.860 public doesn't

00:54:33.960 enjoy it,

00:54:34.480 it's not

00:54:34.800 that we

00:54:35.500 don't learn

00:54:35.960 things,

00:54:36.340 because we

00:54:36.680 do.

00:54:37.420 And it

00:54:37.920 educates us

00:54:38.640 about how

00:54:40.060 to socially

00:54:41.260 isolate and

00:54:41.900 all that.

00:54:42.560 So there

00:54:43.140 are lots of

00:54:43.620 value to

00:54:45.300 the task

00:54:45.900 force

00:54:46.200 presentations.

00:54:47.020 I watch

00:54:47.460 most of

00:54:48.200 them,

00:54:48.980 so I would

00:54:49.660 say the

00:54:49.980 value is

00:54:50.640 very high,

00:54:51.760 but the

00:54:52.800 skill in

00:54:55.140 terms of

00:54:55.720 the primary

00:54:56.560 message,

00:54:57.560 which is

00:54:58.520 inform the

00:54:59.380 public of

00:55:00.200 the useful

00:55:00.680 information,

00:55:01.620 that's just

00:55:02.340 an F.

00:55:03.540 So imagine

00:55:04.240 you're the

00:55:04.860 professional

00:55:05.380 who's most

00:55:06.120 identified with

00:55:08.020 the messages

00:55:08.580 coming out of

00:55:09.200 the White

00:55:09.460 House.

00:55:10.240 You don't

00:55:11.040 get to

00:55:11.440 change how

00:55:12.000 they do

00:55:12.320 it,

00:55:12.700 because

00:55:12.840 obviously

00:55:13.300 they're not

00:55:13.740 listening to

00:55:14.280 her,

00:55:14.520 wouldn't

00:55:14.720 you say?

00:55:15.800 I mean,

00:55:16.240 I don't

00:55:16.480 think anybody

00:55:16.880 is listening

00:55:17.360 to her

00:55:17.700 opinion.

00:55:18.760 So here

00:55:19.080 she is

00:55:19.460 watching the

00:55:20.100 people who

00:55:20.540 are doing

00:55:20.820 the thing

00:55:21.220 she's supposed

00:55:21.680 to be in

00:55:22.040 charge of,

00:55:22.580 which is

00:55:22.960 communicating,

00:55:24.460 and they're

00:55:25.620 failing every

00:55:26.660 day,

00:55:27.580 and they're

00:55:28.200 not listening

00:55:28.720 to her

00:55:29.180 advice,

00:55:29.800 because you

00:55:30.140 know they're

00:55:30.460 not,

00:55:31.300 right?

00:55:32.760 I mean,

00:55:33.320 you don't

00:55:33.580 have to be

00:55:34.000 in the

00:55:34.260 room to

00:55:35.360 know that

00:55:35.780 if she

00:55:36.080 just resigned

00:55:36.780 it's because

00:55:37.300 they weren't

00:55:37.640 listening to

00:55:38.160 her,

00:55:38.760 right?

00:55:39.960 I don't

00:55:40.640 think there

00:55:40.960 was another

00:55:41.440 reason,

00:55:42.620 you know?

00:55:43.160 It had to

00:55:43.880 be that she

00:55:44.340 was not being

00:55:44.940 taken seriously,

00:55:46.060 her opinion

00:55:47.200 on how to do

00:55:47.860 this just

00:55:48.260 wasn't winning

00:55:48.860 the day,

00:55:49.420 apparently.

00:55:50.800 So,

00:55:52.580 yeah,

00:55:53.240 if I were

00:55:54.220 her,

00:55:54.540 I think I

00:55:54.980 would have

00:55:55.280 quit.

00:55:56.080 If I had to

00:55:57.100 be in charge

00:55:57.840 of communication

00:55:58.780 and wouldn't

00:55:59.860 have any

00:56:00.280 influence on

00:56:01.000 it,

00:56:01.160 and then I

00:56:01.480 had to watch

00:56:01.900 the people

00:56:02.340 who should be

00:56:04.020 taking my

00:56:04.520 advice go out

00:56:05.300 there and

00:56:05.720 fail,

00:56:06.780 just fail,

00:56:08.640 day after

00:56:09.480 day after

00:56:10.320 day,

00:56:10.980 and fail

00:56:11.720 exactly the

00:56:12.600 same way,

00:56:13.300 by not

00:56:14.340 giving us

00:56:14.840 any useful

00:56:15.400 information in

00:56:16.140 context,

00:56:17.020 that would

00:56:18.060 drive you

00:56:18.460 crazy.

00:56:19.300 How could

00:56:19.660 you keep

00:56:20.020 that job?

00:56:21.680 So,

00:56:22.320 of course

00:56:23.140 she should

00:56:23.520 leave.

00:56:25.780 All right,

00:56:26.560 that's about

00:56:26.900 all I got

00:56:27.260 for today.

00:56:28.340 I will

00:56:28.820 try to,

00:56:31.800 somebody

00:56:33.360 says,

00:56:33.900 so it's

00:56:34.200 not an

00:56:34.600 F.

00:56:35.260 Let me

00:56:35.580 be clear,

00:56:36.500 there's lots

00:56:37.400 of value

00:56:38.080 in the press

00:56:38.900 conferences,

00:56:39.480 so I'd

00:56:39.700 like to

00:56:40.000 see that.

00:56:41.460 Lots of

00:56:41.920 value,

00:56:42.680 but in

00:56:43.140 terms of

00:56:43.600 communicating,

00:56:45.180 the specific

00:56:45.900 skill of

00:56:46.500 communicating,

00:56:47.300 which is a

00:56:47.780 subset of

00:56:48.640 the value

00:56:49.120 of the

00:56:49.580 press

00:56:50.040 conference,

00:56:51.460 just the

00:56:52.200 communicating

00:56:52.640 part is

00:56:53.140 enough,

00:56:53.980 because they

00:56:55.460 simply don't

00:56:56.000 answer the

00:56:56.460 important

00:56:56.760 questions,

00:56:57.860 nor do

00:56:58.440 they even

00:56:58.880 tell you

00:56:59.240 they can't

00:56:59.740 answer them,

00:57:00.220 nor do

00:57:00.440 they tell

00:57:00.740 you they

00:57:01.060 will answer

00:57:01.600 them,

00:57:02.440 just

00:57:02.880 completely

00:57:03.500 avoiding

00:57:04.020 all the

00:57:04.480 important

00:57:04.820 questions

00:57:05.380 about

00:57:06.500 supply,

00:57:07.740 and about

00:57:08.880 getting back

00:57:09.300 to work.

00:57:10.620 All right,

00:57:10.940 somebody says

00:57:12.080 you're

00:57:12.320 speaking

00:57:12.700 from

00:57:13.180 fear.

00:57:15.520 Am I?

00:57:16.900 I don't

00:57:17.580 know,

00:57:18.160 that gets

00:57:18.520 you blocked.

00:57:19.820 So,

00:57:20.580 for those

00:57:21.120 of you

00:57:21.440 who haven't

00:57:22.040 figured out

00:57:22.500 the pattern

00:57:23.080 yet,

00:57:24.200 you never

00:57:25.080 get blocked

00:57:25.600 for disagreeing

00:57:26.460 with me.

00:57:27.500 That's a

00:57:28.180 hard rule.

00:57:29.140 You can

00:57:29.460 disagree all

00:57:30.260 you want,

00:57:31.340 but when

00:57:32.260 you tell me

00:57:32.780 what I'm

00:57:33.260 thinking,

00:57:34.200 you get

00:57:34.600 blocked,

00:57:35.280 because I

00:57:36.740 need,

00:57:37.660 I want an

00:57:38.320 audience that

00:57:38.880 understands the

00:57:39.600 difference,

00:57:40.060 between me

00:57:42.400 knowing what

00:57:42.920 I'm thinking,

00:57:43.620 and I can

00:57:44.020 be pretty

00:57:44.620 accurate about

00:57:45.180 that,

00:57:45.840 versus you

00:57:46.800 knowing what

00:57:48.300 I'm thinking.

00:57:49.160 If you say

00:57:50.020 in public,

00:57:51.280 your opinion

00:57:51.920 of what I'm

00:57:52.700 thinking,

00:57:53.720 I'm just

00:57:54.080 going to

00:57:54.300 block you,

00:57:54.960 because I

00:57:55.280 don't have

00:57:55.600 time for

00:57:56.000 people like

00:57:56.500 that in

00:57:56.760 my world.

00:57:58.080 That's the

00:57:58.980 lowest level

00:57:59.780 of understanding

00:58:00.540 your world,

00:58:01.600 imagining you

00:58:02.320 can read

00:58:02.660 somebody's

00:58:03.100 mind.

00:58:03.380 And on

00:58:07.260 that note,

00:58:08.400 I hope to

00:58:08.940 see you

00:58:09.360 later tonight,

00:58:11.860 10 and

00:58:12.280 10.

00:58:13.440 That's East

00:58:13.940 Coast time,

00:58:14.640 7 and 7 if

00:58:15.500 you're in

00:58:15.880 California,

00:58:16.560 and why

00:58:17.080 wouldn't you

00:58:17.460 be?

00:58:18.840 California is

00:58:19.580 actually doing

00:58:20.140 an unusually

00:58:20.960 good job now,

00:58:21.840 isn't that

00:58:22.100 weird?

00:58:23.280 It's weird

00:58:23.980 that California

00:58:24.740 is being

00:58:26.100 held up as

00:58:27.940 one of the

00:58:28.460 successful

00:58:29.160 states,

00:58:30.600 but I got a

00:58:31.360 feeling it

00:58:31.780 might be more

00:58:32.500 to do with

00:58:32.940 the fact

00:58:33.260 that we

00:58:33.640 Californians

00:58:34.360 don't bunch

00:58:35.120 up as

00:58:35.500 much.

00:58:36.560 We don't

00:58:36.980 get on

00:58:37.320 subways,

00:58:38.060 we don't

00:58:38.300 have public

00:58:39.140 transportation,

00:58:39.920 I'm talking

00:58:40.200 about Los

00:58:40.720 Angeles in

00:58:41.260 particular,

00:58:42.180 don't have

00:58:42.620 public

00:58:42.900 transportation,

00:58:44.320 don't have

00:58:45.820 as many

00:58:46.140 elevators.

00:58:48.440 I've got a

00:58:48.860 feeling that

00:58:49.480 there's just

00:58:50.660 something about

00:58:51.620 the fact that

00:58:52.260 Los Angeles

00:58:53.400 tend to

00:58:55.740 drive their

00:58:56.140 cars by

00:58:56.580 themselves.

00:58:57.640 They don't

00:58:57.940 have passengers

00:58:58.540 in their

00:58:58.920 cars.

00:58:59.740 So it's

00:58:59.980 probably as

00:59:00.560 much about

00:59:00.960 lifestyle as

00:59:01.700 it is about

00:59:02.340 good management.

00:59:03.960 But anyway,

00:59:04.480 it's working

00:59:04.840 out.

00:59:05.640 All right,

00:59:06.300 that's all

00:59:06.700 for now.

00:59:07.560 I'll talk to

00:59:08.120 you later

00:59:08.440 tonight.

00:59:09.740 Stay safe.

00:59:10.360 Thank you.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - April 07, 2020

Episode 898 Scott Adams： How Many Grandmas Would You End to Get Back to Work？ Make Your Case

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