Real Coffee with Scott Adams - April 07, 2020


Episode 898 Scott Adams: How Many Grandmas Would You End to Get Back to Work? Make Your Case


Episode Stats

Length

59 minutes

Words per Minute

149.93549

Word Count

8,947

Sentence Count

521

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

Jake Tapper gets into hot water for retweets of other people's tweets, and Congress debates a plan to get our medical supply chain back from China. Plus, a special guest joins the show to talk about the latest in the President's war on the press.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, come on in.
00:00:13.660 It's time for Coffee with Scott Adams.
00:00:15.760 This is the place, this is the time.
00:00:18.820 And 15 billion years of evolution in this universe
00:00:24.540 and it brought you all to this moment.
00:00:27.760 Think about it.
00:00:29.320 From the Big Bang all the way to this morning,
00:00:33.320 everything had to happen exactly the way it did
00:00:35.940 to get you in here for the simultaneous sip.
00:00:39.620 Kind of amazing if you think about it.
00:00:42.540 And if you'd like to enjoy the simultaneous sip,
00:00:44.680 you don't need much.
00:00:45.300 All it takes is a cup or a mug or a glass,
00:00:48.540 a tank or a chalice or a sny and a canteen jug or a flask,
00:00:50.820 a vessel of any kind.
00:00:52.020 Fill it with your favorite liquid.
00:00:53.860 I like coffee.
00:00:55.140 And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure,
00:00:56.800 the dopamine hit of the day,
00:00:57.880 the thing that makes everything better,
00:00:59.240 including the pandemic.
00:01:01.420 It's called the simultaneous sip.
00:01:03.520 Go.
00:01:03.780 Better than hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc all put together
00:01:15.360 doesn't equal one cup of coffee.
00:01:17.760 I have spoken.
00:01:19.440 That is my medical opinion.
00:01:21.160 Do not doubt my medical opinions.
00:01:22.760 All right.
00:01:27.760 So there's something called the Medical Supply Chain Act
00:01:31.680 being noodled about in Congress
00:01:34.800 to get our medical supply chain back from China
00:01:38.780 so that we don't find ourselves in this situation again.
00:01:42.020 Can you believe we're even debating that?
00:01:44.020 Is there anybody in Congress who,
00:01:49.000 if you brought this act up for a vote today,
00:01:51.240 is there anybody in Congress who would say,
00:01:53.600 you know, I've thought about it,
00:01:55.220 and I really do think we should keep our most critical
00:01:59.420 pharmaceutical products in China.
00:02:03.920 Yeah.
00:02:04.420 I think I'm going to back keeping it where we're in the most risk.
00:02:09.640 Why don't they just pass that right now?
00:02:12.080 Why does that take 30 minutes to debate?
00:02:14.960 Is there anybody on the other side?
00:02:17.460 Why do we even have a Congress to debate stuff like that?
00:02:21.120 They should just say, does anybody, any objections?
00:02:23.820 No?
00:02:24.260 Okay, we're going to go do this.
00:02:29.780 So Jake Tapper got in a little,
00:02:33.760 well, I'm not going to say trouble,
00:02:34.940 but he got, he did something provocative today
00:02:37.660 because he retweeted Trump critic George Conway.
00:02:43.760 And George Conway had said that
00:02:46.040 the president is 100% insane,
00:02:49.300 which was in response to somebody else's tweet.
00:02:53.460 So Jake Tapper retweeted George Conway
00:02:56.300 saying that the president is 100% insane,
00:02:58.620 and then people said,
00:03:00.360 hey, Jake Tapper, you're taking sides.
00:03:03.820 You can't agree with somebody who says
00:03:05.840 the president's insane.
00:03:07.660 And then Jake Tapper had to tweet back
00:03:10.720 and explain to people how Twitter works.
00:03:14.260 Now, I'm just going to take Jake's side completely.
00:03:18.540 Sorry.
00:03:19.400 I know you don't like it.
00:03:21.040 But sometimes things are unambiguous.
00:03:24.800 This is one of those unambiguous situations.
00:03:28.580 A retweet doesn't mean you agree with it.
00:03:31.740 Who started that rule?
00:03:33.200 That's not a rule.
00:03:35.820 There's no rule that says if you retweet someone else's opinion,
00:03:39.380 therefore it means you endorse it or agree with it,
00:03:42.940 especially if you're a news person.
00:03:45.200 If somebody makes news with their opinion,
00:03:48.720 you can retweet that stuff.
00:03:50.160 So the reason this bugs me is because it happens to me.
00:03:57.520 I will often like a tweet that I don't agree with
00:04:02.400 because I like that it happened,
00:04:04.800 or I might want to look at it again,
00:04:06.800 or I might want to call your attention to it.
00:04:09.060 There's something noteworthy about it.
00:04:10.840 You know, it's worth looking at.
00:04:13.280 So, you know, I'll just hit it with a heart,
00:04:16.160 maybe so it's easier to find later
00:04:17.840 or so other people can see it.
00:04:20.260 Liking and retweeting things is not an endorsement.
00:04:23.420 So you need to get rid of that thought from your head.
00:04:26.180 So Jake was completely right about that.
00:04:33.340 Let's see.
00:04:35.220 How much do you love watching Trump treat the press
00:04:40.000 the way the press treats Trump?
00:04:43.140 Because everybody's complaining that the president
00:04:45.700 is sort of inappropriately insulting
00:04:48.600 and pushing back on the press in the press briefings,
00:04:51.620 and I'm thinking to myself, I don't think so.
00:04:54.280 I don't think he's pushing back in a way
00:04:58.500 that's out of scale with what they're doing.
00:05:01.920 I think he's just responding in kind,
00:05:04.260 and it's just the first time you've ever seen it.
00:05:07.140 You've never seen anybody who is being abused in public
00:05:10.880 just abuse the abuser in public.
00:05:14.440 Usually if somebody is being abused in public,
00:05:16.640 they just sort of take it.
00:05:18.360 You know, the press will be asking all these gotcha questions,
00:05:21.020 and the politician might act a little peeved,
00:05:25.140 but they basically play along with the charade
00:05:28.660 that any of this is good for the public
00:05:30.860 if they answer the question.
00:05:32.820 Trump just doesn't play along.
00:05:34.900 When they ask a gotcha question,
00:05:37.060 he attacks them personally.
00:05:40.740 To which I say, is that unfair?
00:05:43.040 If somebody goes into the most important room
00:05:47.560 in the United States at the moment,
00:05:50.420 wherever the president is, I guess,
00:05:52.000 would be the most important room,
00:05:54.000 and they waste the public's time
00:05:56.100 by asking questions that only serve
00:05:58.820 the business model of the press
00:06:00.420 and don't help the public whatsoever,
00:06:03.560 not even potentially,
00:06:05.780 there's no argument for it.
00:06:07.400 I mean, all that conversation about
00:06:09.320 is Trump making doctor advice
00:06:12.980 when he talks about the hydroxychloroquine,
00:06:15.500 that's nothing but a whole bunch of gotcha stuff.
00:06:18.080 There's no content there.
00:06:19.700 Because everybody knows the content.
00:06:22.800 The content is,
00:06:24.740 as clearly as anybody can say it a hundred times,
00:06:27.900 it's not proven.
00:06:30.600 There is some optimism,
00:06:32.200 and here are the reasons for being optimistic.
00:06:34.140 There's not much downside.
00:06:35.260 That's it.
00:06:35.620 That's the whole story.
00:06:37.400 And the press wastes the country's time
00:06:40.220 to try to turn this into a story
00:06:43.820 about how cleverly the question was asked
00:06:46.940 to catch the president in an imperfect answer.
00:06:52.180 Do you want to watch that?
00:06:54.260 Is that why you turned on the TV
00:06:55.740 to get information about the coronavirus crisis?
00:07:00.040 And instead of that,
00:07:00.980 you're watching some reporter
00:07:04.560 trying to make a star turn
00:07:06.060 and make it about themselves
00:07:07.660 in the clever way they ask the question
00:07:09.380 so they can get some time in the news tonight,
00:07:11.880 I want to see the president
00:07:13.940 absolutely eviscerate them in public,
00:07:18.780 which is what he does.
00:07:20.880 He just, in front of the whole public,
00:07:24.300 he just tells the world
00:07:25.420 that you're a piece of crap
00:07:26.860 and you're wasting everybody's time.
00:07:28.880 And if the second question is the same thing,
00:07:31.700 the president will take the time
00:07:33.520 to tell the second reporter,
00:07:35.440 well, you know, you're also a piece of crap
00:07:37.260 and you're wasting the public's time.
00:07:39.540 You know, fix yourself.
00:07:41.420 I could watch that all day long.
00:07:44.340 I wouldn't, you know,
00:07:44.920 you could line up 35 reporters
00:07:47.100 and I'll have them ask
00:07:48.820 the same stupid gotcha questions
00:07:50.620 and I would never get tired
00:07:52.320 of the president saying,
00:07:53.880 you're a stupid reporter
00:07:54.880 asking a stupid gotcha question.
00:07:57.020 Next.
00:07:58.440 Oh, well, you're a stupid reporter
00:08:00.000 asking a stupid gotcha question too.
00:08:02.660 Next.
00:08:03.360 I mean, I would never get tired of it.
00:08:04.940 I swear to God,
00:08:05.800 I could watch it all day long.
00:08:08.160 So, good on the president
00:08:10.520 for pushing back
00:08:12.060 in what I think is proportionate way.
00:08:16.480 There's a graph going around the internet,
00:08:18.520 which everybody feels
00:08:21.260 they need to forward to me.
00:08:23.840 It, and it looks like a fake one to me.
00:08:26.820 So, I called it out
00:08:28.120 as looking like a fake
00:08:29.800 and I'm going to see
00:08:30.860 how good my instincts are.
00:08:32.800 So, what the graph shows is
00:08:34.700 in prior years,
00:08:36.960 what the, I guess,
00:08:38.920 the curve for pneumonia looked like,
00:08:40.640 the number of people
00:08:41.340 who get diagnosed with pneumonia.
00:08:44.560 And every year,
00:08:45.400 it looked like it was going down
00:08:46.640 from the year before,
00:08:47.700 but this current year,
00:08:50.040 when it got to about COVID season,
00:08:52.640 according to the graph,
00:08:54.380 it just fell off the table
00:08:55.980 as if nobody was getting
00:08:58.600 a pneumonia diagnosis.
00:09:00.540 They were only getting
00:09:01.720 coronavirus diagnoses.
00:09:05.160 And the implication of the graph,
00:09:07.100 which I believe is not real,
00:09:09.540 I think it's a fake data,
00:09:11.740 but we'll find out.
00:09:12.880 That's the fun part,
00:09:13.900 is finding out.
00:09:14.380 And the point of it is
00:09:16.080 that it seems to indicate
00:09:17.600 that the coronavirus
00:09:19.580 is not so bad
00:09:20.880 and all people are doing
00:09:22.860 is interpreting
00:09:24.260 regular pneumonia
00:09:25.440 as coronavirus
00:09:26.880 because, you know,
00:09:28.020 they're not doing
00:09:28.580 a real check
00:09:30.460 to find out
00:09:30.940 why somebody died.
00:09:32.400 And so,
00:09:32.660 the thinking is
00:09:33.340 that the coronavirus
00:09:34.020 is just over,
00:09:35.380 over categorized,
00:09:38.160 over counted.
00:09:39.900 So,
00:09:40.620 here's the thing.
00:09:42.320 Here's what I think
00:09:43.280 is sketchy about it.
00:09:44.840 It refers to a source
00:09:46.380 but it doesn't link
00:09:47.460 to a source.
00:09:48.880 If you see a graph
00:09:50.280 that's that provocative
00:09:51.480 and on the graph
00:09:53.460 it says, you know,
00:09:54.380 here's the link
00:09:55.340 but it's just described,
00:09:58.080 it's not an actual link
00:09:59.340 you can click
00:10:00.080 and go look at.
00:10:01.380 And you can't even
00:10:02.220 really easily type it in
00:10:03.440 because it's like
00:10:04.040 a long link,
00:10:05.820 a URL,
00:10:06.540 you wouldn't really
00:10:07.080 type that in.
00:10:07.700 So,
00:10:08.940 yeah, I'm seeing
00:10:11.600 other people say
00:10:12.200 fake graph.
00:10:13.220 So, hint number one
00:10:14.640 is it mentions
00:10:16.880 a source
00:10:17.460 but it doesn't
00:10:18.160 link to it.
00:10:19.700 In 2020,
00:10:21.500 if you mention
00:10:22.520 a source
00:10:22.980 and don't link
00:10:23.700 to it,
00:10:24.660 it's probably
00:10:25.700 fake.
00:10:27.520 Right?
00:10:28.360 Secondly,
00:10:29.520 it's too
00:10:29.940 on the nose.
00:10:31.760 Have you ever
00:10:32.340 heard that phrase?
00:10:33.600 It's sort of a
00:10:34.660 Hollywood script writer
00:10:35.920 phrase,
00:10:36.420 that's the first
00:10:36.860 place I heard it,
00:10:38.560 where you're
00:10:39.000 writing a script
00:10:39.700 and then you write
00:10:40.700 something into the script
00:10:41.740 that's just a little
00:10:43.060 too perfect.
00:10:44.560 It's like,
00:10:45.100 oh, yeah,
00:10:46.080 that's a pretty
00:10:46.840 big coincidence.
00:10:48.080 That doesn't look
00:10:48.640 real at all.
00:10:49.680 That's called
00:10:50.220 being too on the nose.
00:10:52.320 It's so perfect
00:10:53.380 it can't be real.
00:10:55.180 So, when they show
00:10:56.040 this graph
00:10:56.640 and all the other lines
00:10:57.800 are, you know,
00:10:58.360 conforming really well
00:10:59.760 and then this one
00:11:00.400 goes blah, blah, blah
00:11:01.020 and then it just
00:11:01.580 drops straight down,
00:11:03.660 that's a little
00:11:04.420 too on the nose.
00:11:05.920 Right?
00:11:06.480 That's a little
00:11:07.240 too exactly
00:11:08.200 what the message
00:11:09.120 is trying to be.
00:11:10.560 Now, that doesn't
00:11:11.120 mean it's false.
00:11:12.320 I mean,
00:11:12.700 that by itself
00:11:14.300 because sometimes
00:11:15.660 data is surprising.
00:11:17.420 But you start
00:11:18.240 putting it together,
00:11:19.060 it's like,
00:11:19.320 okay,
00:11:19.920 it's a little
00:11:20.600 too on the nose
00:11:21.620 and it doesn't
00:11:23.960 have a clickable
00:11:25.600 link.
00:11:28.320 I say fake.
00:11:30.300 So, I'm seeing
00:11:31.240 different opinions
00:11:31.880 here.
00:11:32.160 Some of you
00:11:32.520 think it's fake,
00:11:33.180 some of you
00:11:33.440 think it's real.
00:11:34.020 maybe somebody
00:11:36.920 can give me
00:11:37.520 an idea.
00:11:38.180 The first person
00:11:39.180 I saw,
00:11:40.280 who I know
00:11:41.240 to be credible
00:11:41.880 from other
00:11:42.660 comments,
00:11:43.820 said he looked
00:11:44.660 at the graph
00:11:45.440 and then looked
00:11:46.060 at the source
00:11:47.040 it's supposed
00:11:48.100 to be from
00:11:48.700 and it doesn't
00:11:49.200 seem to match.
00:11:50.680 But that was
00:11:51.020 just, you know,
00:11:51.760 the first person
00:11:52.500 who commented.
00:11:54.540 So, beware
00:11:55.240 of graphs
00:11:55.920 with no
00:11:57.240 clickable link.
00:11:58.480 I would think
00:12:00.820 75% of those
00:12:02.620 are fake
00:12:03.100 just in general.
00:12:04.600 It doesn't
00:12:04.880 mean that one
00:12:05.360 is, but it
00:12:05.940 might be.
00:12:08.080 Once again,
00:12:08.840 I put on my
00:12:09.580 headphones
00:12:10.000 and started
00:12:12.460 Periscope
00:12:13.480 without clicking
00:12:14.300 the option
00:12:14.860 for you to
00:12:15.520 ask questions.
00:12:16.700 So, my plan
00:12:17.880 for filling
00:12:18.420 this hour
00:12:18.920 with questions
00:12:19.680 that you
00:12:20.100 asked me live
00:12:20.880 is once again
00:12:22.480 ruined by the
00:12:23.540 oddity of
00:12:24.480 this user
00:12:25.740 interface,
00:12:26.220 which doesn't
00:12:27.540 let me do
00:12:28.340 things in the
00:12:28.940 order that I
00:12:29.560 think I want
00:12:30.100 to do them.
00:12:31.360 The order
00:12:32.080 that I want
00:12:32.620 to do them
00:12:33.160 is I wanted
00:12:34.640 to start it up
00:12:35.400 and then invite
00:12:36.120 people in,
00:12:36.700 but apparently
00:12:37.100 I have to
00:12:37.480 invite people
00:12:38.480 in and then
00:12:39.120 start it up,
00:12:39.860 but it's too
00:12:40.820 late to go
00:12:41.280 back now.
00:12:42.340 So, how
00:12:43.400 about those
00:12:43.840 apples?
00:12:47.700 A lot of
00:12:48.400 stories on
00:12:48.780 Facebook of
00:12:49.700 survivors who
00:12:50.620 took the
00:12:51.200 hydroxychloroquine.
00:12:52.960 So, yeah,
00:12:53.440 I just saw a
00:12:54.240 story on
00:12:55.560 Laura Engram's
00:12:56.560 show in
00:12:57.440 which a
00:12:58.680 Democratic
00:12:59.180 politician said
00:13:01.200 that the
00:13:01.640 hydroxychloroquine
00:13:02.660 probably saved
00:13:04.420 her life.
00:13:05.660 Here's a
00:13:06.420 problem with
00:13:07.140 every one of
00:13:07.900 those stories.
00:13:09.780 They're a
00:13:10.340 thing called
00:13:10.920 anecdotal.
00:13:12.100 There's a
00:13:12.840 reason that
00:13:13.720 anecdotal has
00:13:14.880 its own word,
00:13:16.240 and it's not
00:13:16.800 the same word
00:13:17.420 as scientifically
00:13:18.400 demonstrated or
00:13:20.280 clinical trials.
00:13:22.560 Anecdotal is
00:13:24.080 never reliable.
00:13:27.320 It can be
00:13:27.860 true, but you
00:13:29.540 can't rely on
00:13:30.340 it.
00:13:30.920 There's no
00:13:31.620 information really
00:13:32.500 being transmitted
00:13:33.360 with anecdotal
00:13:34.780 stuff.
00:13:35.280 There's only the
00:13:35.860 possibility of
00:13:36.800 information.
00:13:38.200 So, anecdotal
00:13:38.840 information can
00:13:39.680 tell you where
00:13:40.260 to look.
00:13:41.680 It can tell
00:13:42.300 you, well, it
00:13:43.060 might be a good
00:13:43.540 idea to do a
00:13:44.240 study on this,
00:13:45.580 but by itself it
00:13:46.700 doesn't tell you
00:13:47.200 stuff.
00:13:47.820 So, just keep
00:13:49.520 that in mind.
00:13:50.460 I suppose
00:13:50.960 everybody's saying
00:13:51.640 the same thing,
00:13:52.400 but you can't
00:13:53.440 be reminded of
00:13:54.320 that enough.
00:13:55.820 So, I put
00:13:56.560 very low
00:13:58.820 credibility in
00:13:59.920 the individual
00:14:00.860 reports of
00:14:02.060 people who
00:14:02.540 say, I took
00:14:03.220 the drug and
00:14:03.920 an hour later
00:14:05.700 I was already
00:14:06.260 feeling better.
00:14:07.060 And by the
00:14:07.380 way, I have
00:14:07.840 heard those
00:14:08.260 stories.
00:14:09.340 I have very
00:14:10.100 much heard the
00:14:10.700 stories from
00:14:11.820 even personally.
00:14:12.980 I've heard at
00:14:13.880 least one story
00:14:14.660 of somebody who
00:14:15.380 took it and
00:14:16.880 it seemed to
00:14:17.600 turn things
00:14:18.100 around so
00:14:18.660 quickly that it
00:14:20.120 was hard not
00:14:21.040 to attribute
00:14:21.580 it to the
00:14:22.060 drug because
00:14:22.720 the timing
00:14:23.380 was just, it
00:14:24.400 would have been
00:14:24.700 a coincidence
00:14:25.160 if things
00:14:26.020 turned around
00:14:26.580 at exactly
00:14:27.340 that time.
00:14:29.180 So, I think
00:14:30.060 there's a good
00:14:30.400 chance.
00:14:31.160 There's a good
00:14:31.580 chance it
00:14:31.960 works.
00:14:32.900 I think India
00:14:33.680 decided to
00:14:34.640 open up and
00:14:35.640 allow us to
00:14:36.820 buy some from
00:14:37.440 India because
00:14:37.980 that's one of
00:14:38.500 our biggest
00:14:38.820 sources.
00:14:41.820 I'm seeing
00:14:43.580 ridiculous stories
00:14:44.720 about how
00:14:45.380 people are
00:14:46.940 trying to make
00:14:47.820 it look like
00:14:48.320 President Trump
00:14:49.000 has some kind
00:14:49.580 of financial
00:14:50.180 gain from
00:14:51.800 pushing the
00:14:52.420 hydroxychloroquine.
00:14:54.740 Do you
00:14:55.040 really need
00:14:55.660 to, like
00:14:58.220 suppose it
00:14:58.640 was true,
00:14:59.380 when I saw
00:15:00.860 those articles
00:15:01.520 suggesting that
00:15:02.520 the President
00:15:02.920 had some
00:15:03.380 financial gain
00:15:04.220 in this, I
00:15:05.100 couldn't even
00:15:05.540 open them and
00:15:06.200 look to see
00:15:06.700 what the
00:15:06.980 argument is
00:15:07.580 because on
00:15:08.940 its surface
00:15:09.460 it's so
00:15:10.020 ridiculous.
00:15:11.300 You don't
00:15:11.620 even have to
00:15:12.100 read that
00:15:12.900 article.
00:15:13.860 Let me
00:15:14.220 explain why
00:15:14.780 that's so
00:15:15.180 ridiculous.
00:15:15.580 The idea
00:15:17.540 is that the
00:15:18.020 President is
00:15:18.780 acting in a
00:15:19.540 way that,
00:15:21.120 even without
00:15:21.840 reading the
00:15:22.820 article, I'm
00:15:23.580 assuming this
00:15:24.140 is what it's
00:15:24.580 about, that
00:15:25.660 pushing this
00:15:26.260 drug, somehow
00:15:27.140 he has some
00:15:27.820 direct or
00:15:28.400 indirect financial
00:15:29.440 interest in the
00:15:30.180 company, and
00:15:31.280 really it's just
00:15:32.020 a big old
00:15:32.500 trick to pump
00:15:33.840 up the value
00:15:34.460 of this stock
00:15:35.640 and somehow
00:15:36.620 he'd gain from
00:15:37.600 that or his
00:15:38.120 friends would or
00:15:38.780 something.
00:15:39.840 Here's how
00:15:40.320 ridiculous this
00:15:41.040 is.
00:15:42.120 Have you
00:15:42.580 noticed he's
00:15:43.280 the President
00:15:43.780 of the United
00:15:44.400 States, and
00:15:46.420 he's got a
00:15:46.920 big old
00:15:47.300 company?
00:15:48.300 The only
00:15:49.020 thing that
00:15:49.480 Trump can
00:15:49.900 do that is
00:15:51.540 good for him
00:15:52.140 personally is
00:15:53.700 to do a
00:15:54.200 really good
00:15:54.720 job for the
00:15:55.400 country where
00:15:56.600 everybody's
00:15:57.180 watching.
00:15:58.300 That's the
00:15:58.900 end of the
00:15:59.260 story.
00:16:00.040 If you have
00:16:00.780 to throw
00:16:01.140 in, oh,
00:16:01.980 he's really
00:16:02.740 managing his
00:16:03.640 job as
00:16:04.160 President of
00:16:04.640 the United
00:16:05.000 States for
00:16:06.180 this one
00:16:06.660 little stock
00:16:07.320 deal, you're
00:16:09.140 so far from
00:16:10.020 reality and
00:16:10.940 understanding how
00:16:11.700 the world
00:16:12.060 works that you
00:16:13.220 should not
00:16:13.640 talk in
00:16:14.060 public anymore.
00:16:15.600 Because here's
00:16:16.280 the deal.
00:16:17.140 If Trump does
00:16:18.120 a good job
00:16:18.760 with this
00:16:19.080 coronavirus, the
00:16:20.460 public decides,
00:16:21.380 oh, it wasn't
00:16:22.760 perfect, but I
00:16:23.520 think you got
00:16:24.680 us through, he
00:16:26.080 will get
00:16:26.400 re-elected.
00:16:27.520 Being re-elected
00:16:28.380 is the best
00:16:28.840 thing he could
00:16:29.300 do for himself,
00:16:30.080 his family, his
00:16:30.680 family business.
00:16:32.000 Just simply
00:16:32.440 doing a good
00:16:33.140 job for the
00:16:33.740 country is
00:16:35.440 where all of
00:16:36.300 his gain lies.
00:16:38.060 There is no
00:16:38.860 situation where
00:16:40.440 President Trump
00:16:41.160 could find some
00:16:42.100 way, some
00:16:43.260 little angle
00:16:43.940 that's good
00:16:45.160 for him and
00:16:45.760 his family
00:16:46.460 personally, and
00:16:47.860 yet was somehow
00:16:48.460 bad for the
00:16:49.120 country.
00:16:49.620 It just doesn't
00:16:50.580 exist.
00:16:51.800 It can't
00:16:52.560 exist.
00:16:54.440 Logically, you
00:16:55.840 can't have a
00:16:56.720 situation where
00:16:57.980 you're watching
00:16:58.540 this guy so
00:16:59.340 closely and he
00:17:01.000 could possibly
00:17:01.640 find anything,
00:17:03.100 find some
00:17:03.700 clever way to
00:17:05.180 enrich himself
00:17:06.000 and his family
00:17:06.600 at the expense
00:17:07.340 of the country.
00:17:08.340 That's not a
00:17:09.160 thing.
00:17:10.060 It would be a
00:17:10.780 thing if we
00:17:11.260 weren't watching.
00:17:13.280 I'm not saying
00:17:14.200 that he would
00:17:14.700 do it if we
00:17:15.200 weren't watching.
00:17:15.840 I'm saying that
00:17:16.440 it could be a
00:17:17.720 thing if a
00:17:19.480 president were
00:17:20.180 not being
00:17:20.640 watched.
00:17:22.140 You could
00:17:22.520 imagine any
00:17:23.100 leader could do
00:17:23.780 nefarious things
00:17:24.600 if nobody's
00:17:25.200 watching.
00:17:26.080 But we're all
00:17:26.760 watching.
00:17:28.020 You can't
00:17:29.360 possibly come up
00:17:30.260 with any
00:17:30.680 reasonable
00:17:31.220 scenario where
00:17:32.720 the president
00:17:33.840 directly screws
00:17:35.700 300x million
00:17:37.740 people, but
00:17:39.440 he makes,
00:17:39.940 hey, I made
00:17:40.380 a 20% gain on
00:17:41.460 this one stock.
00:17:42.660 It's so crazy.
00:17:44.480 It's beyond
00:17:45.280 crazy.
00:17:47.120 It's 100% crazy,
00:17:48.440 as George
00:17:48.840 Conway would
00:17:49.420 say.
00:17:50.940 All right.
00:17:54.280 Here are the
00:17:55.040 things we know.
00:17:56.580 It does seem
00:17:57.540 that worldwide
00:17:58.980 there's some
00:18:00.180 kind of an
00:18:01.140 elbow happening.
00:18:02.060 there's some
00:18:03.500 kind of a
00:18:04.060 thing happening
00:18:04.680 right now in
00:18:05.580 which it
00:18:07.300 looks like things
00:18:08.000 are getting
00:18:08.320 better, or at
00:18:09.940 least things are
00:18:10.780 getting worse
00:18:11.960 less quickly,
00:18:13.400 which looks like
00:18:14.400 the beginning of
00:18:15.120 things getting
00:18:15.580 better.
00:18:16.980 And I will
00:18:18.800 remind you what
00:18:19.580 I told you,
00:18:20.640 that if it
00:18:21.460 looks like you
00:18:22.380 get a report
00:18:22.980 that that
00:18:23.480 hydroxychloroquine
00:18:24.600 is working,
00:18:25.780 you better own
00:18:26.660 some stocks,
00:18:27.800 because two
00:18:28.900 days in a row,
00:18:30.560 that's a lot
00:18:31.580 of green.
00:18:32.060 A lot of
00:18:34.060 green.
00:18:35.840 Amazon is
00:18:36.660 up.
00:18:38.420 Everything's
00:18:38.940 up.
00:18:39.780 Even poor
00:18:40.360 little Bitcoin
00:18:41.180 is up.
00:18:43.040 Wow.
00:18:44.360 Things are up
00:18:44.880 a lot.
00:18:48.000 So,
00:18:48.760 yesterday, I
00:18:49.860 think, was
00:18:50.240 that day.
00:18:51.000 You know, I
00:18:51.320 warned you that
00:18:52.160 you would not
00:18:53.420 want to not
00:18:54.520 own stocks on
00:18:56.400 the day that
00:18:56.920 somebody says,
00:18:57.640 you know, this
00:18:58.080 hydroxychloroquine
00:18:59.000 looks like it's
00:18:59.580 working.
00:18:59.840 And sure
00:19:01.800 enough,
00:19:02.840 yesterday was
00:19:03.660 that day.
00:19:04.320 I mean, we've
00:19:04.740 had lots of
00:19:05.300 hints, but I
00:19:06.460 feel like the
00:19:07.160 weight of the
00:19:08.320 hints didn't
00:19:10.140 become significant
00:19:11.740 until yesterday,
00:19:12.980 wouldn't you
00:19:13.340 say?
00:19:14.840 Wouldn't you
00:19:15.520 say that
00:19:15.960 yesterday was
00:19:16.560 sort of the
00:19:17.020 moment that
00:19:18.440 the whole
00:19:18.800 country started
00:19:19.540 to say,
00:19:20.160 maybe, yeah,
00:19:22.040 maybe, maybe
00:19:22.660 it does work.
00:19:23.540 Now, I think
00:19:24.040 what we needed
00:19:24.580 to see was
00:19:25.880 more anecdotal
00:19:26.700 stories, because
00:19:27.560 they're convincing
00:19:28.320 even though
00:19:28.940 they're not
00:19:29.280 scientifically
00:19:29.900 valid.
00:19:30.900 But on top
00:19:31.580 of that, we
00:19:32.020 needed to see
00:19:32.620 that the
00:19:33.020 curve was
00:19:33.460 changing, because
00:19:35.320 you wouldn't
00:19:35.800 believe that
00:19:36.320 the drug
00:19:36.700 worked unless
00:19:38.440 it was actually
00:19:39.320 showing a
00:19:39.900 change in the
00:19:40.420 curve, and I
00:19:41.040 think New York
00:19:41.500 City is starting
00:19:42.140 to demonstrate
00:19:42.660 that.
00:19:44.020 And I think
00:19:45.160 the news in
00:19:46.560 the coming
00:19:46.940 weeks will be
00:19:48.900 mostly about
00:19:49.900 hospitals that
00:19:50.920 are not
00:19:51.380 over capacity.
00:19:55.180 So I think
00:19:56.180 that's it.
00:19:58.020 I'm seeing
00:19:58.720 many questions
00:19:59.740 about what I
00:20:00.280 think of Dr.
00:20:01.080 Shiva's opinion
00:20:02.260 on this, and I
00:20:03.800 have not
00:20:04.200 followed it, so I
00:20:05.020 don't have an
00:20:05.420 opinion on that.
00:20:07.900 So you can
00:20:08.600 stop asking,
00:20:09.460 because I don't
00:20:09.900 know his
00:20:10.980 opinion.
00:20:14.880 So here's
00:20:15.800 the deal.
00:20:18.780 I think we've
00:20:19.720 entered the
00:20:21.180 period where
00:20:21.720 things are going
00:20:22.200 to get better.
00:20:22.680 Now, the big
00:20:23.080 question is going
00:20:23.720 to be how to
00:20:25.600 get back to
00:20:26.060 work.
00:20:35.440 Sometimes I
00:20:36.300 see comments
00:20:36.940 that so
00:20:37.560 disappoint me
00:20:38.460 in the, I
00:20:42.020 don't know, I'm
00:20:42.580 just so
00:20:42.980 disappointed,
00:20:43.600 because I
00:20:46.280 consider myself
00:20:47.200 relatively
00:20:48.060 ungullible.
00:20:50.640 You know,
00:20:50.800 everybody's
00:20:51.360 gullible a
00:20:51.980 little bit.
00:20:52.460 Everybody can
00:20:52.940 be fooled.
00:20:53.440 Everybody can
00:20:54.540 be wrong.
00:20:55.100 Everybody can
00:20:55.760 retweet something
00:20:57.240 that turns out
00:20:58.240 to be fake
00:20:58.760 news.
00:20:59.480 So nobody's
00:21:00.080 immune to it.
00:21:01.200 But I feel,
00:21:02.900 you know, if
00:21:03.920 you were to
00:21:04.280 rank human
00:21:05.580 capabilities,
00:21:06.580 you know,
00:21:06.860 everybody's
00:21:07.440 somewhere on
00:21:09.040 the line.
00:21:10.860 I feel like I'm
00:21:11.700 relatively immune
00:21:13.060 from believing
00:21:14.780 the craziest
00:21:15.440 stuff.
00:21:15.960 and when I
00:21:17.960 see people who
00:21:18.680 still believe
00:21:19.300 the craziest
00:21:19.860 stuff, as
00:21:21.420 in the
00:21:21.700 comments, it
00:21:23.640 just actually
00:21:24.240 shocks me for
00:21:25.100 a moment.
00:21:26.500 And I
00:21:26.740 think, wow,
00:21:27.800 people will
00:21:28.380 really believe
00:21:29.100 just about
00:21:29.620 anything,
00:21:30.060 won't they?
00:21:32.360 All right.
00:21:33.020 So, the
00:21:38.040 big question
00:21:38.940 in the
00:21:39.460 coming week
00:21:40.840 and more
00:21:42.180 is,
00:21:44.060 somebody says
00:21:45.440 you're gullible
00:21:46.020 to support
00:21:46.700 Tapper.
00:21:47.800 Well, you
00:21:49.400 get the
00:21:49.740 block.
00:21:51.760 Now, I
00:21:52.480 remind you
00:21:53.160 that you
00:21:55.560 can disagree
00:21:56.200 with my
00:21:56.680 opinions all
00:21:57.280 you want,
00:21:57.980 but whenever
00:21:58.540 your comments
00:21:59.320 are about my
00:22:00.760 internal thought
00:22:01.580 process,
00:22:02.120 you'll always
00:22:03.480 get blocked.
00:22:08.720 Do I have
00:22:09.780 to, it
00:22:10.700 looks like I'm
00:22:11.240 going to have
00:22:11.500 to go do
00:22:11.880 homework and
00:22:12.680 listen to
00:22:13.220 Dr. Shiva
00:22:13.960 so that I
00:22:15.480 can tell you
00:22:15.920 my opinion
00:22:16.400 because I
00:22:18.500 didn't say I
00:22:18.960 don't like
00:22:19.360 him.
00:22:19.700 I said I
00:22:20.220 haven't listened
00:22:20.820 to his
00:22:21.140 opinion on
00:22:21.640 this topic.
00:22:23.180 So, if,
00:22:25.320 will you be
00:22:26.500 happy if I
00:22:27.020 go listen to
00:22:27.520 his opinion?
00:22:28.180 Is the
00:22:28.580 reason that
00:22:29.040 you want me
00:22:29.680 to listen
00:22:30.480 because you're
00:22:31.580 not confident
00:22:32.120 in it or
00:22:33.100 do you
00:22:33.360 think, or
00:22:34.520 is it because
00:22:35.280 you are
00:22:35.660 confident in
00:22:36.560 his opinion
00:22:37.320 and you
00:22:37.700 think I
00:22:38.080 can extend
00:22:38.860 it?
00:22:39.940 Because I
00:22:40.420 don't really
00:22:40.840 understand your
00:22:42.260 interest in
00:22:43.240 me getting
00:22:43.900 interested in
00:22:44.560 him.
00:22:45.600 I mean, his
00:22:46.300 specific opinion
00:22:47.200 on this
00:22:47.600 topic.
00:22:48.500 Is there
00:22:48.700 some reason
00:22:49.220 that,
00:22:52.320 well, all
00:22:53.460 right, I'll
00:22:53.760 look into
00:22:54.080 it.
00:22:55.780 Let me do
00:22:56.720 it right now.
00:22:58.220 Let me look
00:22:58.800 up, no,
00:23:00.320 it'll take too
00:23:00.740 long.
00:23:00.900 Forget it.
00:23:03.560 So, anyway, I
00:23:04.440 tweeted this
00:23:05.200 question, this
00:23:05.880 survey.
00:23:07.640 I said, how
00:23:07.900 many net
00:23:08.320 lives would
00:23:09.500 you accept
00:23:10.100 as lost?
00:23:11.380 How many
00:23:12.020 extra people
00:23:12.640 would you be
00:23:13.160 willing to
00:23:13.640 see die
00:23:14.260 in order to
00:23:15.920 reopen the
00:23:16.440 economy?
00:23:17.960 And so my
00:23:18.700 choices were,
00:23:19.500 and of course,
00:23:20.340 these polls are
00:23:21.360 unscientific and
00:23:22.180 everything, but
00:23:23.440 they can give
00:23:24.280 you maybe a
00:23:25.040 directional sense
00:23:25.960 of where
00:23:26.280 people are
00:23:27.500 leaning.
00:23:27.760 and so I
00:23:29.240 gave them
00:23:29.500 the choices
00:23:29.920 of up to
00:23:30.880 50,000
00:23:31.520 people extra
00:23:32.340 dead to
00:23:33.080 get back to
00:23:33.560 work, up
00:23:34.500 to 100,000
00:23:35.360 or up to
00:23:35.900 200,000.
00:23:36.960 I capped
00:23:37.580 the survey at
00:23:38.400 200,000 because
00:23:39.280 I don't think
00:23:39.920 there's any
00:23:40.340 chance it's
00:23:40.900 going to go
00:23:41.200 over that,
00:23:42.340 wouldn't you
00:23:42.780 say?
00:23:43.140 Is it fair to
00:23:43.920 say at this
00:23:44.540 point that the
00:23:46.020 number of
00:23:46.460 deaths from
00:23:46.940 coronavirus are
00:23:48.140 unlikely to be
00:23:49.020 over 200,000
00:23:50.020 for this
00:23:50.480 country?
00:23:51.780 So I capped
00:23:52.560 it at that.
00:23:53.060 And the
00:23:53.940 answers were
00:23:54.720 interesting because
00:23:56.600 they were
00:23:57.260 clustered on
00:23:59.540 the two
00:23:59.820 extremes.
00:24:01.220 So there
00:24:01.880 were 32% who
00:24:03.100 said only up
00:24:04.660 to 50,000
00:24:05.460 extra deaths,
00:24:06.560 but there
00:24:07.440 were 48% who
00:24:08.640 said up to
00:24:09.100 200.
00:24:10.740 And then in
00:24:11.400 the middle was
00:24:12.300 the smallest
00:24:12.740 group of 19%
00:24:13.840 said up to
00:24:14.380 100.
00:24:15.020 So it seems
00:24:15.560 that people,
00:24:16.860 and I think,
00:24:17.680 I'll bet this
00:24:18.140 would hold
00:24:18.580 up.
00:24:19.600 I think this
00:24:20.500 would hold
00:24:20.920 up.
00:24:21.280 And what I'm
00:24:21.880 saying is that
00:24:22.620 people either
00:24:24.500 say it's
00:24:25.720 got to be as
00:24:26.200 close to
00:24:26.680 zero as
00:24:27.180 possible,
00:24:27.660 or they
00:24:29.260 say it
00:24:29.860 almost doesn't
00:24:30.560 matter.
00:24:32.080 Those seem
00:24:32.740 to be the
00:24:33.120 views.
00:24:33.580 I don't think
00:24:34.220 people are
00:24:34.640 going to be
00:24:34.920 able to
00:24:35.220 fine-tune
00:24:35.920 where it
00:24:36.360 is in
00:24:36.840 that range.
00:24:37.800 So the
00:24:38.380 people are
00:24:38.740 going to
00:24:38.900 say it's
00:24:39.580 got to be
00:24:39.900 as close
00:24:40.300 to zero
00:24:40.740 as possible,
00:24:41.520 so give
00:24:41.940 me the
00:24:42.220 smallest
00:24:42.520 number.
00:24:43.780 And then
00:24:44.220 other people
00:24:44.760 are going
00:24:45.000 to say the
00:24:46.120 economy is
00:24:46.780 so important
00:24:47.340 that 200,000,
00:24:49.000 sure.
00:24:49.680 A million?
00:24:50.600 Yep.
00:24:51.320 Yeah, I
00:24:51.740 would let a
00:24:52.120 million people
00:24:52.600 die to not
00:24:53.860 destroy the
00:24:54.400 entire economy.
00:24:55.220 Totally worth
00:24:55.680 it.
00:24:56.540 So given
00:24:57.020 that nobody
00:24:57.680 can really
00:24:58.260 calculate the
00:24:59.340 pluses and
00:24:59.940 minuses of
00:25:00.680 these, we're
00:25:01.360 just going by
00:25:01.980 our bias,
00:25:02.680 whether we
00:25:03.060 think the
00:25:03.380 economy will
00:25:04.100 kill more
00:25:05.040 people or the
00:25:05.820 coronavirus, we
00:25:06.760 don't really
00:25:07.180 know.
00:25:08.160 We just feel
00:25:09.620 like we know
00:25:10.260 or we've got a
00:25:10.940 hunch or an
00:25:12.240 instinct about it
00:25:13.060 that may or
00:25:13.500 may not be
00:25:13.880 good.
00:25:15.520 So the reason
00:25:16.300 this is important
00:25:17.040 is that you
00:25:17.720 need to get a
00:25:18.280 sense of the
00:25:18.920 mood of the
00:25:19.380 country, because
00:25:20.340 whatever the
00:25:20.960 government comes
00:25:21.620 up with, we
00:25:22.520 need to buy
00:25:23.040 into it.
00:25:24.500 And the
00:25:25.480 reason I'm
00:25:25.880 making a big
00:25:26.400 deal about
00:25:27.140 the public's
00:25:28.140 opinion is
00:25:29.360 that the
00:25:29.640 public needs
00:25:30.380 to give our
00:25:31.120 government cover
00:25:32.180 to make the
00:25:33.540 right decision.
00:25:34.540 At the
00:25:35.100 moment, I
00:25:35.580 think our
00:25:35.980 system requires
00:25:37.580 that our
00:25:38.060 president continue
00:25:39.160 to say things
00:25:40.040 such as, I
00:25:41.280 will accept
00:25:41.820 zero deaths.
00:25:43.720 Now, as a
00:25:44.740 politician and
00:25:46.240 a leader, that's
00:25:48.040 really good.
00:25:48.620 When Trump
00:25:51.160 says, I
00:25:51.980 will accept
00:25:52.500 zero deaths
00:25:54.160 are acceptable,
00:25:56.080 for once, he's
00:25:57.600 acting like a
00:25:58.300 standard politician
00:25:59.220 in the sense
00:26:00.000 that there's
00:26:01.040 no other
00:26:01.520 right answer
00:26:02.260 if you're the
00:26:03.060 leader of the
00:26:03.500 country.
00:26:04.520 Which, by the
00:26:05.120 way, I'm
00:26:05.440 going to tie
00:26:05.780 this into
00:26:06.200 something.
00:26:07.200 Regardless of
00:26:08.000 what you think
00:26:08.880 about abortion,
00:26:11.240 so forget
00:26:12.180 your own
00:26:12.680 opinion,
00:26:13.580 regardless of
00:26:15.300 what you think
00:26:16.300 of abortion,
00:26:17.020 whether you
00:26:17.320 like it or
00:26:17.820 hate it,
00:26:18.620 would you
00:26:19.580 not agree
00:26:20.160 that the
00:26:21.280 president of
00:26:21.840 the United
00:26:22.160 States should
00:26:23.020 always be
00:26:23.680 against it?
00:26:25.560 Here's my
00:26:26.240 argument.
00:26:27.200 Because you
00:26:27.900 want the
00:26:28.320 president of
00:26:28.760 the United
00:26:29.020 States to
00:26:29.600 say, in
00:26:30.600 every case,
00:26:31.820 no matter
00:26:32.240 what, if
00:26:33.000 there's a
00:26:33.400 gray area,
00:26:34.900 I'm in
00:26:35.320 favor of
00:26:35.920 maximizing,
00:26:37.180 saving
00:26:37.480 American
00:26:37.960 lives.
00:26:39.440 That was
00:26:39.780 restricted to
00:26:40.660 America,
00:26:41.140 because it's
00:26:41.520 an American
00:26:41.920 political
00:26:42.380 question.
00:26:44.520 Would you
00:26:45.180 ever want a
00:26:45.820 president,
00:26:46.200 regardless of
00:26:49.920 your own
00:26:50.300 views,
00:26:51.260 independent of
00:26:52.180 what you
00:26:52.500 think,
00:26:52.940 would you
00:26:53.200 ever be
00:26:53.560 comfortable
00:26:53.900 with a
00:26:54.280 president who
00:26:54.860 said,
00:26:55.580 look, I
00:26:57.200 think there
00:26:57.580 is a
00:26:58.020 case,
00:26:59.360 it seems
00:26:59.820 like a
00:27:00.140 little gray
00:27:00.560 area to a
00:27:01.160 lot of
00:27:01.340 people in
00:27:01.660 the country,
00:27:02.260 or a big
00:27:02.720 gray area to
00:27:03.360 a lot of
00:27:03.660 people in
00:27:03.960 the country,
00:27:04.740 but as
00:27:05.340 your leader,
00:27:05.960 yeah, I
00:27:06.960 think that
00:27:07.360 this class
00:27:08.020 of people,
00:27:09.420 according to
00:27:10.240 this number
00:27:11.360 of the
00:27:11.580 public,
00:27:11.940 who would
00:27:13.040 consider it
00:27:13.600 the unborn
00:27:14.140 real people,
00:27:16.240 that, yeah,
00:27:17.160 my opinion
00:27:17.660 is that they
00:27:18.400 can die.
00:27:20.260 Now,
00:27:20.960 regardless of
00:27:21.720 whether you
00:27:22.000 think abortion
00:27:22.540 is a good
00:27:23.100 idea or a
00:27:23.880 bad idea,
00:27:25.100 my opinion
00:27:25.780 is that the
00:27:26.760 leader of
00:27:27.140 the country,
00:27:28.700 the one who
00:27:30.780 has the most
00:27:31.440 impact in
00:27:32.200 leadership,
00:27:33.100 needs to
00:27:34.100 always be
00:27:34.960 on the
00:27:36.180 side of
00:27:36.600 maximum
00:27:37.000 life,
00:27:37.700 even if
00:27:38.320 it's not
00:27:38.660 practical.
00:27:39.880 Now, I
00:27:40.940 would still
00:27:41.360 be okay
00:27:41.960 with that
00:27:43.260 leader saying,
00:27:44.260 you know,
00:27:44.700 as your
00:27:45.460 president,
00:27:46.020 I have one
00:27:46.640 view and it
00:27:47.220 will never
00:27:47.580 change.
00:27:48.960 My view is
00:27:50.000 that we
00:27:50.320 should do
00:27:50.600 everything we
00:27:51.100 can to
00:27:52.060 protect every
00:27:52.720 life, every
00:27:53.960 possible life,
00:27:54.980 every gray area
00:27:55.700 life, every
00:27:56.460 life.
00:27:56.960 If you're an
00:27:57.340 American, I've
00:27:57.940 got one job.
00:27:59.240 Keep you safe,
00:28:00.020 keep you alive,
00:28:00.740 keep you happy.
00:28:02.000 It's not up to
00:28:02.740 me to decide if
00:28:03.680 you're worthy of
00:28:04.540 saving.
00:28:05.920 As president, I
00:28:07.060 will never weigh
00:28:07.840 in on the
00:28:08.280 question of
00:28:09.580 whether this
00:28:10.120 person or this
00:28:10.780 person,
00:28:11.360 is worth
00:28:12.280 saving their
00:28:13.000 life.
00:28:13.360 I will never
00:28:13.860 engage in
00:28:14.500 that because
00:28:15.580 my job is to
00:28:16.460 save you all.
00:28:17.600 Now, it's
00:28:18.660 also a
00:28:19.100 practical world.
00:28:21.080 Some decisions
00:28:21.960 are tough.
00:28:23.300 So this
00:28:23.640 abortion question
00:28:24.420 is going to be
00:28:25.000 to the states.
00:28:27.040 States, you
00:28:27.920 decided, maybe
00:28:29.140 even Supreme
00:28:29.760 Court, you
00:28:30.220 decided.
00:28:31.160 But because of
00:28:31.880 my special
00:28:32.960 job title, as
00:28:35.220 the person who
00:28:35.920 protects everybody,
00:28:37.260 I'm the only
00:28:38.240 person in the
00:28:38.940 country who
00:28:39.960 won't give you
00:28:40.620 an opinion on
00:28:41.260 abortion.
00:28:42.300 I won't give
00:28:43.140 you my opinion
00:28:43.800 because, as
00:28:45.800 president, I
00:28:47.140 shouldn't have
00:28:47.980 one on life
00:28:49.420 or death.
00:28:50.400 It's just
00:28:50.980 always life.
00:28:52.620 If you, the
00:28:53.440 state, want to
00:28:54.000 make a different
00:28:54.680 decision, I
00:28:56.240 accept that.
00:28:57.320 The country
00:28:58.180 needs to have
00:28:58.720 rules.
00:28:59.600 We have a
00:29:00.460 democratic process.
00:29:02.200 And if that's
00:29:02.720 the way it goes,
00:29:03.400 I'll support it.
00:29:04.540 But as your
00:29:05.080 president, never
00:29:06.540 put me in a
00:29:07.160 position where
00:29:07.960 I'm deciding
00:29:08.720 who lives and
00:29:09.980 who dies.
00:29:10.880 You don't want
00:29:11.380 that president.
00:29:13.200 And so, again,
00:29:14.920 as a practical
00:29:16.420 matter, you want
00:29:17.200 your president to
00:29:17.860 agree with you on
00:29:18.640 abortion because
00:29:19.320 it's more likely
00:29:20.020 things will go
00:29:21.200 your way.
00:29:21.680 So I get that
00:29:22.360 on a practical
00:29:23.440 level.
00:29:23.840 But on a
00:29:25.200 moral, ethical
00:29:26.000 level, I would
00:29:27.260 never, ever,
00:29:28.040 ever, ever want
00:29:29.700 the number one
00:29:31.220 leader of the
00:29:31.740 country to ever
00:29:33.300 decide who gets
00:29:35.500 to live and who
00:29:36.100 gets to die or
00:29:36.900 even who's a
00:29:37.460 person.
00:29:38.580 It just
00:29:39.060 shouldn't be
00:29:39.620 that person's
00:29:40.280 decision ever.
00:29:43.160 So, that
00:29:44.700 said, that
00:29:46.880 to my point
00:29:47.600 that the
00:29:48.120 public needs
00:29:48.920 to tell
00:29:49.440 Trump what
00:29:51.800 we're comfortable
00:29:52.460 with in the
00:29:53.420 life or death
00:29:54.040 situation.
00:29:55.540 So, some
00:29:56.240 things need to
00:29:56.900 come from the
00:29:57.460 leader and
00:29:58.500 sometimes the
00:29:59.440 leader just
00:29:59.860 needs to tell
00:30:00.440 the country
00:30:00.880 where we're
00:30:01.360 going and
00:30:02.320 that's your
00:30:02.720 best process.
00:30:04.300 There are lots
00:30:04.960 of cases,
00:30:05.540 certainly with
00:30:06.000 the commander-in-chief
00:30:06.820 situation where
00:30:08.200 you really, you
00:30:09.260 just need the
00:30:09.860 leader to just
00:30:10.500 tell you which
00:30:11.120 way you're
00:30:11.440 marching and
00:30:12.600 then if you're
00:30:13.140 being smart
00:30:13.780 about it, you
00:30:14.400 follow the
00:30:14.880 leader because
00:30:15.380 that's just your
00:30:15.920 best system in
00:30:17.140 some situations.
00:30:18.600 This is not
00:30:19.400 one of them.
00:30:20.540 This is a
00:30:21.180 situation in which
00:30:22.020 the leader is
00:30:22.980 necessarily
00:30:23.760 handicapped and
00:30:26.120 you want him to
00:30:26.800 be.
00:30:27.360 You don't want to
00:30:28.140 change that because
00:30:29.480 again, you don't
00:30:30.620 want your
00:30:31.040 president to
00:30:32.440 decide who's
00:30:33.280 worthy of life
00:30:34.120 and death.
00:30:35.180 I do not
00:30:35.940 want the
00:30:36.380 leader, the
00:30:36.940 number one
00:30:37.400 leader in the
00:30:37.860 country to
00:30:38.880 stand in front
00:30:39.480 of the world
00:30:39.900 and say, you
00:30:40.360 know, I
00:30:42.100 think that I'm
00:30:43.180 going to favor
00:30:43.660 the people who
00:30:44.440 want to get
00:30:44.760 back to work
00:30:45.500 and I'm going
00:30:46.780 to let 50,000
00:30:47.700 grandmothers die.
00:30:49.600 It shouldn't be
00:30:50.240 his decision.
00:30:51.600 It shouldn't be
00:30:52.240 in his job
00:30:52.800 description even
00:30:53.600 though it has
00:30:54.060 to be, right?
00:30:55.240 Ultimately, he
00:30:55.880 has to make the
00:30:56.420 decision.
00:30:56.920 You can't change
00:30:57.560 that.
00:30:57.800 But I think
00:30:59.620 we need to
00:31:00.300 give him some
00:31:01.400 cover.
00:31:03.180 And this is not
00:31:04.140 about Trump.
00:31:04.700 It's just about
00:31:05.200 whoever is
00:31:05.760 president.
00:31:06.700 The citizens
00:31:07.620 need to give
00:31:08.380 the leader
00:31:08.840 some cover.
00:31:10.520 And what I
00:31:10.920 mean by that
00:31:11.440 is that we
00:31:12.080 need to really
00:31:14.300 wrestle with
00:31:15.040 this question
00:31:15.680 of what we
00:31:17.220 are willing to
00:31:18.300 accept collectively
00:31:19.420 as a risk
00:31:21.680 to get back
00:31:23.420 to work.
00:31:24.540 So we as
00:31:25.780 non-politicians
00:31:26.860 can say this
00:31:28.300 and watch me
00:31:29.820 say it right
00:31:30.380 out loud.
00:31:31.140 And I can only
00:31:31.820 say this because
00:31:32.360 I'm not president.
00:31:33.600 If I were
00:31:34.320 president, I'd
00:31:35.120 just shut my
00:31:35.700 mouth.
00:31:36.660 But let me
00:31:37.320 say it as a
00:31:37.920 citizen.
00:31:39.540 Somewhere at
00:31:40.300 around less
00:31:41.460 than 50,000
00:31:42.580 extra deaths
00:31:43.540 over the course
00:31:44.300 of the year,
00:31:45.080 I would be
00:31:46.280 comfortable with
00:31:47.760 the trade-offs
00:31:48.520 to get us
00:31:49.860 back to work.
00:31:51.320 So that's my
00:31:52.140 number.
00:31:52.900 I feel that if
00:31:53.880 you want to give
00:31:54.440 the president
00:31:55.000 some cover,
00:31:55.780 which allows
00:31:57.260 the country
00:31:58.320 to make
00:31:58.720 rational decisions
00:31:59.720 and allows
00:32:00.380 the president
00:32:01.360 to do what
00:32:01.900 he needs to
00:32:02.420 do, as
00:32:03.680 opposed to
00:32:04.160 being bound
00:32:04.700 by what I
00:32:05.540 consider the
00:32:06.100 most sacred
00:32:06.740 rule of the
00:32:08.280 presidency, is
00:32:09.220 he doesn't get
00:32:09.820 to decide who
00:32:10.440 to kill.
00:32:12.100 So you need
00:32:13.000 to take that
00:32:13.700 away from him
00:32:14.400 because he
00:32:16.220 doesn't want
00:32:16.780 it.
00:32:17.720 I mean, I
00:32:18.820 can't read his
00:32:19.480 mind, but I
00:32:20.000 don't imagine
00:32:20.500 anybody would
00:32:21.220 want to have
00:32:22.580 that on their
00:32:23.080 conscience, want
00:32:23.980 that to be part
00:32:24.540 of their
00:32:24.720 decision, but
00:32:25.760 we can take
00:32:26.320 that away.
00:32:27.180 We can fix
00:32:28.000 that collectively.
00:32:29.580 And it doesn't
00:32:30.240 mean that we
00:32:30.680 all have to
00:32:31.120 agree, right?
00:32:32.580 So it's not
00:32:33.380 even about the
00:32:34.780 country getting
00:32:35.860 on the same
00:32:36.420 page and then
00:32:37.340 the president
00:32:38.180 can do that
00:32:39.020 too.
00:32:39.680 It's more
00:32:40.140 about the
00:32:40.520 public being
00:32:44.840 adults.
00:32:46.740 And here's
00:32:47.440 what I mean.
00:32:48.180 Here's the
00:32:48.660 adult view.
00:32:49.520 The adult view
00:32:50.320 is some number
00:32:51.700 of people are
00:32:52.240 going to die
00:32:52.740 either way.
00:32:54.060 I think this
00:32:54.880 will be the
00:32:55.340 path with the
00:32:56.200 least death and
00:32:56.880 destruction, so I
00:32:57.840 choose this.
00:32:58.420 That's what an
00:32:59.100 adult would say.
00:33:00.820 Here's what a
00:33:01.580 child would say.
00:33:04.600 A child would
00:33:05.540 say, oh, sure,
00:33:07.180 the 50,000 deaths
00:33:08.220 is fine as long
00:33:09.200 as it's not your
00:33:09.880 family, right?
00:33:11.340 I just saw this
00:33:12.360 on Twitter.
00:33:13.300 That's a child's
00:33:14.300 view.
00:33:15.600 The child's view
00:33:16.760 is, well, you'd
00:33:18.120 think differently if
00:33:19.200 it were your
00:33:19.660 family member.
00:33:20.320 That's just a
00:33:22.080 child's view.
00:33:23.320 I'm not even
00:33:24.000 going to tell you
00:33:24.400 what's wrong
00:33:24.940 with it, except
00:33:26.300 that it's not an
00:33:26.980 adult opinion.
00:33:28.280 So to the
00:33:28.920 extent we can,
00:33:30.780 let us see if we
00:33:32.000 can shame the
00:33:32.860 child opinions to
00:33:34.540 the sidelines.
00:33:36.080 The old, well,
00:33:36.900 you'd feel
00:33:37.360 differently if it
00:33:38.100 was your mother.
00:33:39.200 Yeah, of course
00:33:39.720 I would.
00:33:40.440 That's not new
00:33:41.660 information.
00:33:43.320 But we're
00:33:43.980 adults.
00:33:44.920 We're going to
00:33:45.480 make decisions,
00:33:46.360 and it might be
00:33:47.100 my family member
00:33:48.040 who gets killed
00:33:48.800 who's in the
00:33:49.500 $50,000.
00:33:50.580 It might be
00:33:51.320 yours.
00:33:52.240 Nobody wants
00:33:52.940 that.
00:33:54.340 We've still got
00:33:54.920 to get back
00:33:55.300 to work.
00:33:56.920 So I put down
00:33:59.200 my stake under
00:34:00.060 $50,000 because
00:34:01.060 I think we can
00:34:01.680 do that.
00:34:03.060 My guess is if
00:34:04.220 you netted out
00:34:05.060 the lives that
00:34:06.640 have been saved
00:34:07.420 and then you
00:34:07.840 add in maybe
00:34:08.420 there's more
00:34:08.840 domestic abuse,
00:34:10.100 unfortunately.
00:34:11.560 So if you do
00:34:12.500 the full net
00:34:13.200 of how many
00:34:13.700 people died
00:34:14.320 because of
00:34:14.980 the economy
00:34:16.220 taking a hit,
00:34:17.480 if you netted
00:34:18.260 it all up,
00:34:20.580 $50,000 is
00:34:21.800 where I'm
00:34:22.140 comfortable.
00:34:23.260 I'm not
00:34:23.600 happy.
00:34:24.900 Nobody's happy,
00:34:26.180 right?
00:34:26.460 About $50,000
00:34:27.300 people dying.
00:34:28.380 But there is
00:34:28.960 a point where
00:34:29.480 you just say,
00:34:30.080 all right,
00:34:30.980 got to be
00:34:31.520 adult.
00:34:32.620 Time to make
00:34:33.220 an adult choice.
00:34:34.160 Time to grow
00:34:34.680 up.
00:34:35.540 Time to get
00:34:36.280 on the team.
00:34:36.960 Time to do
00:34:37.320 what's good
00:34:37.640 for the country.
00:34:39.040 Time to take
00:34:39.760 some sacrifice
00:34:40.600 for the country.
00:34:41.960 So I
00:34:44.120 probably will
00:34:45.120 bore you
00:34:45.560 to death
00:34:46.200 on this
00:34:46.780 point.
00:34:47.420 I just
00:34:47.980 want it to
00:34:48.480 be more
00:34:49.080 a part of
00:34:49.520 the conversation
00:34:50.260 and not
00:34:51.380 ignored.
00:34:52.280 Because for
00:34:53.920 the next few
00:34:54.460 days, I think
00:34:55.040 what you're
00:34:55.420 going to see
00:34:55.820 is all the
00:34:56.440 talking heads
00:34:57.180 talking like
00:34:58.480 children.
00:34:59.980 Because it's
00:35:00.680 a little too
00:35:01.360 dangerous to
00:35:02.060 be an adult
00:35:02.740 in public
00:35:03.320 right now.
00:35:04.800 Because critics
00:35:06.120 will jump on
00:35:06.780 you.
00:35:07.520 But what I'd
00:35:08.140 like to see
00:35:08.780 is in
00:35:10.900 the next
00:35:11.220 week, I
00:35:12.140 want you to
00:35:12.560 see if at
00:35:13.340 least the
00:35:13.760 public pundits
00:35:14.840 and the
00:35:15.360 opinion people,
00:35:16.440 I want you to
00:35:16.860 see if I can
00:35:17.420 get them to
00:35:18.060 shift a little
00:35:19.060 bit from
00:35:20.460 talking about
00:35:21.120 the question
00:35:21.620 of orange
00:35:22.940 man bad,
00:35:23.760 orange man
00:35:24.220 good, and
00:35:25.300 stuff like
00:35:25.700 that, to
00:35:26.640 we are going
00:35:27.480 to have to
00:35:27.780 make a
00:35:28.080 decision about
00:35:28.820 people dying.
00:35:30.540 And let's
00:35:31.140 see if we
00:35:31.520 can even
00:35:31.900 have that
00:35:32.460 conversation
00:35:33.120 and are
00:35:34.820 we even
00:35:35.180 capable of
00:35:35.920 talking about
00:35:36.440 it in
00:35:36.700 public.
00:35:37.640 So I'd
00:35:37.940 like to
00:35:38.240 this week,
00:35:39.140 I would
00:35:40.180 like to
00:35:40.520 see the
00:35:41.240 public
00:35:42.000 pundits be
00:35:42.860 able to
00:35:43.480 give a
00:35:43.860 number and
00:35:45.020 say, you
00:35:45.320 know, there's
00:35:46.660 no way around
00:35:47.220 this, there's
00:35:47.680 going to be a
00:35:48.140 number on
00:35:48.860 the number of
00:35:49.320 people who
00:35:49.680 die.
00:35:50.100 There's going
00:35:50.440 to be a
00:35:50.720 number.
00:35:51.780 So if
00:35:52.420 you're not
00:35:52.740 willing to
00:35:53.120 say your
00:35:53.580 number out
00:35:54.080 loud, you
00:35:55.500 shouldn't be
00:35:55.940 in the
00:35:56.180 conversation.
00:35:57.680 Now, maybe
00:35:58.380 for this next
00:35:58.980 week, people
00:35:59.560 want to still
00:36:00.080 be children
00:36:00.880 and say,
00:36:01.660 well, let's
00:36:02.640 kill nobody.
00:36:04.100 Well, I'm
00:36:04.820 not going to
00:36:05.120 do anything
00:36:05.480 that would
00:36:05.700 kill my
00:36:06.100 grandma.
00:36:06.400 let's see
00:36:08.120 if we can
00:36:08.540 reduce that
00:36:09.320 opinion and
00:36:09.980 get people
00:36:10.500 to, you
00:36:11.380 know, if
00:36:11.980 it means
00:36:12.340 50,000 or
00:36:13.380 100,000, this
00:36:14.300 is where I'm
00:36:14.760 comfortable.
00:36:15.860 And it's
00:36:16.980 not until all
00:36:17.900 of us have
00:36:18.520 at least
00:36:19.020 given our
00:36:20.860 number that
00:36:22.800 the president
00:36:23.300 is safe.
00:36:23.900 because if
00:36:25.060 we've all
00:36:25.540 given our
00:36:26.020 number, then
00:36:27.400 he can say,
00:36:28.060 all right, given
00:36:28.500 all this
00:36:28.940 input, this
00:36:30.200 is where the
00:36:30.660 country is, this
00:36:31.540 is, you know,
00:36:32.160 the mood of
00:36:32.720 the room, I
00:36:34.100 can now pick
00:36:35.060 from that
00:36:35.520 palette of
00:36:36.160 options that
00:36:36.880 the country
00:36:37.320 has given
00:36:37.800 me.
00:36:38.540 But what
00:36:39.140 you don't
00:36:39.580 want is
00:36:40.820 your president
00:36:41.340 out there
00:36:41.860 naked.
00:36:42.840 He's got a
00:36:43.520 blank canvas,
00:36:44.700 and then he
00:36:45.280 just puts his
00:36:45.860 finger in the
00:36:46.380 middle of the
00:36:46.720 canvas and
00:36:47.220 says, that's
00:36:48.220 my number of
00:36:48.860 people I'm
00:36:49.300 going to kill
00:36:49.880 to get the
00:36:52.000 economy back up
00:36:52.920 so I can get
00:36:53.440 elected.
00:36:53.880 That's what it's
00:36:54.240 going to look
00:36:54.560 like, right?
00:36:55.340 It's going to
00:36:55.840 look like the
00:36:56.300 president decided
00:36:57.020 to kill however
00:36:59.040 many people so
00:37:00.020 he could get
00:37:00.440 reelected.
00:37:01.220 That's how it's
00:37:01.820 going to be
00:37:02.140 spun.
00:37:03.280 So if you
00:37:03.680 want to take
00:37:04.100 that risk away
00:37:07.300 from your
00:37:07.680 leader so he
00:37:08.300 can make a
00:37:08.740 decision that
00:37:10.100 makes sense
00:37:10.740 for the
00:37:11.060 country, give
00:37:12.580 a number.
00:37:13.920 Commit.
00:37:15.120 You don't have
00:37:15.680 to be right,
00:37:16.920 but at least
00:37:17.360 make it safe for
00:37:18.500 other people to
00:37:19.220 give a number.
00:37:20.340 You've got to
00:37:20.880 make it safe.
00:37:22.020 Here's a
00:37:22.480 little persuasion
00:37:23.580 rule that is
00:37:25.440 sort of implied
00:37:26.120 in what I'm
00:37:26.540 saying, but I'm
00:37:27.820 going to say it
00:37:28.240 explicitly.
00:37:29.680 People can get
00:37:30.680 used to almost
00:37:31.620 anything.
00:37:34.000 People can get
00:37:35.000 used to almost
00:37:36.140 anything.
00:37:37.120 So the first
00:37:37.980 time you hear,
00:37:38.940 hey, hey,
00:37:40.160 Bob, you're
00:37:40.720 going to have to
00:37:40.940 make a decision.
00:37:42.020 Are 100,000
00:37:43.480 people going to
00:37:44.080 die?
00:37:45.060 It's up to you.
00:37:45.900 Do you want
00:37:46.160 100,000 people
00:37:46.880 to die?
00:37:47.480 Well, the first
00:37:48.060 time you're
00:37:48.520 presented with
00:37:49.560 this decision
00:37:50.260 where you put
00:37:51.600 yourself in
00:37:52.080 the president's
00:37:52.660 shoes and you
00:37:53.160 say, okay, am
00:37:54.480 I going to let
00:37:55.020 50,000 people
00:37:56.300 die that might
00:37:58.380 not have died
00:37:59.060 in other
00:37:59.700 situations?
00:38:03.260 And the
00:38:05.440 first time that
00:38:06.140 you have to go
00:38:06.740 through that
00:38:07.160 thought process
00:38:07.960 is jarring and
00:38:09.820 you're going to
00:38:10.180 want to just
00:38:10.640 change the
00:38:11.140 subject.
00:38:12.660 But you need
00:38:13.560 to kind of get
00:38:14.240 used to it.
00:38:15.660 Because it's not
00:38:16.560 until we can
00:38:17.240 comfortably say
00:38:18.280 50,000 or
00:38:19.720 100,000 out
00:38:20.740 loud in
00:38:21.160 public just
00:38:22.940 to show we
00:38:23.440 can even talk
00:38:24.020 about the
00:38:24.400 topic, just
00:38:25.840 to show we're
00:38:26.340 no longer
00:38:26.740 shocked by it.
00:38:27.460 We're going
00:38:28.900 to have to
00:38:29.220 acclimate
00:38:29.780 ourselves to
00:38:30.580 being able to
00:38:31.200 talk about
00:38:31.700 these big
00:38:32.140 numbers just
00:38:33.580 so psychologically
00:38:34.440 we can get
00:38:35.160 to the other
00:38:35.580 side.
00:38:36.780 So I'll be
00:38:37.340 priming the
00:38:37.860 pump for
00:38:38.200 that.
00:38:39.300 What else
00:38:39.820 is happening
00:38:40.220 that you care
00:38:41.440 about besides
00:38:42.140 Dr. Shiva?
00:38:42.920 It was
00:38:48.580 called
00:38:48.780 Vietnam.
00:38:49.720 That is a
00:38:50.880 good analogy.
00:38:53.800 Analogies
00:38:54.480 don't win
00:38:54.940 arguments but
00:38:55.900 they're often
00:38:57.220 entertaining and
00:38:58.680 sometimes they
00:38:59.320 can educate.
00:39:00.940 And the
00:39:01.300 Vietnam example
00:39:02.820 was perfect.
00:39:04.900 Yeah,
00:39:05.120 Vietnam was
00:39:05.800 acceptable because
00:39:06.700 we sort of
00:39:07.320 inched our way
00:39:08.200 into it.
00:39:09.860 If we knew
00:39:10.740 from the
00:39:11.100 start, it's
00:39:11.540 like,
00:39:11.740 we're going
00:39:12.180 to lose
00:39:12.520 this many
00:39:13.520 people.
00:39:14.760 If we knew
00:39:15.440 that on
00:39:15.780 day one,
00:39:16.400 the public
00:39:16.740 would have
00:39:17.000 said,
00:39:17.260 I'm not
00:39:17.700 down for
00:39:18.060 that.
00:39:19.220 But if
00:39:19.580 you say,
00:39:19.960 well, we
00:39:20.300 lost 100
00:39:21.100 people today
00:39:21.800 and 110
00:39:23.040 the next
00:39:24.100 day, it
00:39:24.980 just sort of
00:39:25.400 sneaks up
00:39:25.880 on you.
00:39:26.840 That was a
00:39:27.200 good example.
00:39:29.960 But you
00:39:30.500 need to define
00:39:31.140 how to get
00:39:31.620 to that
00:39:31.900 number.
00:39:32.440 Okay, let
00:39:33.740 me define
00:39:34.240 it for the
00:39:34.740 billionth time.
00:39:36.620 I always
00:39:37.440 define it as
00:39:38.240 net, meaning
00:39:40.040 that you
00:39:40.520 look at what
00:39:41.540 the normal
00:39:42.000 number of
00:39:42.500 deaths are
00:39:42.980 every year,
00:39:43.920 and then you
00:39:44.560 look at this
00:39:45.080 period this
00:39:46.320 year, and
00:39:47.660 if normally
00:39:48.420 we'd lose
00:39:49.280 40,000 people
00:39:50.740 a month or
00:39:51.280 whatever it
00:39:51.660 is, and
00:39:52.900 this month
00:39:54.000 we lost
00:39:54.600 45,000, I'd
00:39:56.060 say the net
00:39:56.480 is five.
00:39:57.740 Now, I don't
00:39:58.160 care how many
00:39:58.740 of those are
00:39:59.160 coronavirus, and
00:40:00.060 I don't care how
00:40:00.580 many is the
00:40:01.220 reduced traffic
00:40:03.000 accidents, it's
00:40:03.720 just all in the
00:40:04.340 number.
00:40:05.260 Why would you
00:40:06.000 ever look at
00:40:07.860 any number that
00:40:08.520 wasn't net?
00:40:09.200 death count, and
00:40:10.020 this is the
00:40:11.040 part that if
00:40:12.240 you have any
00:40:12.660 training in
00:40:13.680 doing financial
00:40:15.520 analysis, it
00:40:17.180 gets really
00:40:17.700 annoying when
00:40:18.320 people ask you
00:40:19.060 if important
00:40:19.860 numbers are
00:40:20.420 included in
00:40:21.060 the figure,
00:40:22.020 because of
00:40:22.640 course they
00:40:23.080 are.
00:40:23.760 They're important
00:40:24.380 numbers, of
00:40:25.520 course they're
00:40:25.980 included, because
00:40:27.420 they matter.
00:40:28.980 So you don't
00:40:29.420 need to ask me
00:40:30.140 about, here's
00:40:31.540 what you don't
00:40:31.940 ever need to
00:40:32.500 do.
00:40:32.700 if you can
00:40:34.000 think of
00:40:34.500 something that
00:40:36.260 would be
00:40:36.600 different about
00:40:37.120 the death
00:40:37.460 count, either
00:40:38.260 more domestic
00:40:39.280 abuse, more
00:40:41.820 suicide, more
00:40:43.640 death from
00:40:44.100 economics, you
00:40:45.200 know, whatever
00:40:46.440 it is, it's in
00:40:48.800 the number.
00:40:50.080 So everything,
00:40:51.320 just everything,
00:40:52.080 you don't have to
00:40:52.520 ask about the
00:40:53.020 details.
00:40:53.740 If you can
00:40:54.540 calculate it, it's
00:40:55.520 in there.
00:40:57.320 All right.
00:41:01.260 How many
00:41:01.880 business owners
00:41:02.600 had a stroke?
00:41:03.720 No one's
00:41:04.340 counting that.
00:41:05.660 Well, again, if
00:41:06.840 you count just
00:41:07.740 the total number
00:41:08.540 of deaths this
00:41:09.460 year compared to
00:41:10.340 other years,
00:41:11.340 probably they
00:41:12.320 would be very
00:41:12.840 similar, meaning
00:41:14.240 you're probably
00:41:14.920 always within, I
00:41:16.060 don't know, 5%.
00:41:17.380 Any month, if
00:41:18.960 you looked at
00:41:19.320 any month in a
00:41:20.120 normal year to
00:41:20.840 the year before,
00:41:21.660 it's probably
00:41:22.140 about the same
00:41:22.800 number of
00:41:23.240 accidents, you
00:41:24.080 know, 5%
00:41:24.740 difference.
00:41:25.940 So if you see
00:41:26.520 a bigger difference
00:41:27.260 than that during
00:41:28.600 the coronavirus
00:41:29.200 deaths, you
00:41:31.020 could reasonably
00:41:31.880 attribute it
00:41:32.580 to this
00:41:33.140 situation.
00:41:38.140 Let's see.
00:41:40.220 Just remember
00:41:41.140 the lag, yeah.
00:41:43.600 The elderly are
00:41:44.700 more susceptible
00:41:45.380 and they tend
00:41:46.040 to vote for
00:41:46.660 Trump.
00:41:48.740 True.
00:41:49.700 Wouldn't you
00:41:50.120 like to see a
00:41:50.760 survey of people
00:41:51.980 over 60?
00:41:54.260 What if you
00:41:55.000 asked, if you
00:41:55.740 asked the people,
00:41:56.620 you know, say
00:41:57.580 under 40, how
00:41:59.220 many deaths
00:41:59.780 would you be
00:42:00.300 willing to
00:42:01.040 accept?
00:42:02.220 And I think
00:42:02.560 what you'd
00:42:03.040 find is a
00:42:03.980 lot.
00:42:05.260 I think you
00:42:05.760 would find
00:42:06.120 that the
00:42:06.560 younger people
00:42:07.300 resent the
00:42:09.180 elderly quite
00:42:10.740 a bit because
00:42:12.540 they feel like
00:42:13.260 the elderly
00:42:13.780 had a good
00:42:14.540 life and
00:42:15.660 used everything
00:42:16.360 up and
00:42:16.960 left them
00:42:17.340 nothing but
00:42:17.900 debt in a
00:42:19.020 smoldering
00:42:19.440 world.
00:42:20.660 It's a little
00:42:21.280 bit of an
00:42:21.640 exaggeration, but
00:42:22.480 not too
00:42:23.360 bad.
00:42:27.920 Somebody
00:42:28.360 asked, what
00:42:28.840 about the
00:42:29.240 surge?
00:42:29.860 Do we
00:42:30.080 need to
00:42:30.360 wait until
00:42:30.860 after that?
00:42:31.980 Well, we
00:42:32.360 do.
00:42:33.080 We do need
00:42:33.680 to wait.
00:42:34.540 I'd say
00:42:35.120 another week
00:42:35.800 we'll have a
00:42:36.220 good idea
00:42:36.660 what's happening.
00:42:37.680 So we
00:42:38.320 probably can't
00:42:38.900 make a final
00:42:39.480 decision for
00:42:40.720 at least a
00:42:41.660 week and
00:42:42.620 realistically we
00:42:44.000 wouldn't make
00:42:44.540 it then either.
00:42:45.220 We'd probably
00:42:45.540 wait two weeks.
00:42:46.640 But this is the
00:42:47.380 point where we
00:42:47.940 should start
00:42:48.280 making the
00:42:48.720 plans because
00:42:49.760 whether or not
00:42:50.360 that surge
00:42:51.740 is two weeks
00:42:53.240 away or one
00:42:54.040 week away.
00:42:54.800 I'm not sure
00:42:55.680 we can predict
00:42:56.360 that stuff so
00:42:57.180 well.
00:42:58.260 But no matter
00:42:59.140 when it
00:42:59.500 comes, you
00:43:01.100 need to get
00:43:01.540 to the other
00:43:01.980 side to make
00:43:02.580 the final
00:43:03.100 decision.
00:43:04.020 But I feel
00:43:04.640 like we can
00:43:05.560 feel it coming
00:43:06.460 in a way that
00:43:09.060 we probably
00:43:09.740 want to at
00:43:10.800 least make the
00:43:11.340 plan.
00:43:13.160 Yeah, I think
00:43:14.020 people over 60
00:43:14.960 might be more
00:43:16.700 flexible than
00:43:17.740 people assume
00:43:18.560 because, you
00:43:20.060 know,
00:43:20.160 when you
00:43:20.720 reach a
00:43:21.040 certain age,
00:43:21.580 especially if
00:43:22.100 you're 80,
00:43:23.080 I can imagine
00:43:23.860 a lot of
00:43:24.300 80-year-olds
00:43:24.960 saying, hey,
00:43:26.740 I had a good
00:43:27.500 run.
00:43:28.880 You know, if
00:43:29.340 you ask me,
00:43:30.400 do I want,
00:43:31.560 if you ask the
00:43:32.280 average 80-year-old,
00:43:33.740 here's the deal.
00:43:35.100 We could give
00:43:35.840 you an average
00:43:37.120 of three more
00:43:37.980 extra years of
00:43:38.760 life, but it's
00:43:40.360 three years in
00:43:41.280 your 80s and
00:43:42.600 you're probably in
00:43:43.280 the nursing home
00:43:43.860 anyway.
00:43:44.940 So you get
00:43:45.640 three more of
00:43:46.320 those worst
00:43:47.120 years of your
00:43:47.740 life, the last
00:43:48.520 three,
00:43:48.860 country, or
00:43:50.800 you could save
00:43:52.780 the country.
00:43:54.260 So you get
00:43:55.400 three years of
00:43:56.220 crappy end of
00:43:57.120 life, or you
00:43:58.960 can save the
00:43:59.620 economy of the
00:44:00.320 United States
00:44:00.960 for your
00:44:01.380 children and
00:44:01.960 grandchildren.
00:44:03.200 What does the
00:44:04.040 80-year-old say
00:44:05.040 to that?
00:44:08.200 I've got a
00:44:08.960 feeling that they
00:44:09.820 would very
00:44:10.320 strongly lean
00:44:11.680 toward, I
00:44:12.840 had a good
00:44:13.280 run.
00:44:14.520 Don't you
00:44:15.140 think?
00:44:15.700 I think if
00:44:16.340 you ask the
00:44:16.860 people who
00:44:17.320 are most at
00:44:18.000 risk, they
00:44:19.280 would say,
00:44:19.720 yeah, I'm
00:44:20.060 scared, you
00:44:20.920 know, and
00:44:21.480 all that, but
00:44:22.860 you know, if I
00:44:23.680 have to choose,
00:44:25.620 I'm going to
00:44:26.440 choose the
00:44:26.840 grandchildren.
00:44:27.880 I had a good
00:44:28.560 run.
00:44:28.880 I don't need
00:44:29.360 three extra
00:44:30.040 years of this,
00:44:31.100 whatever this is,
00:44:31.980 when you're 80.
00:44:33.580 So I would
00:44:37.100 not assume that
00:44:38.080 the elderly need
00:44:40.260 the kind of
00:44:40.780 protection as a
00:44:42.800 class.
00:44:43.240 obviously
00:44:43.740 individuals will
00:44:44.580 differ, but as
00:44:45.840 a class, I
00:44:46.560 don't know if
00:44:46.980 they're asking
00:44:47.480 for the
00:44:47.860 protection that
00:44:48.460 we're offering,
00:44:49.240 you know, given
00:44:49.680 the trade-off that
00:44:51.040 it would hurt
00:44:51.680 their grandchildren,
00:44:52.600 et cetera.
00:44:54.060 Somebody says,
00:44:54.760 you first.
00:44:56.180 Yeah.
00:45:01.280 Now, people in
00:45:02.400 their 70s, I
00:45:03.560 would expect to
00:45:04.160 have a different
00:45:04.680 opinion, because
00:45:05.440 70s are actually
00:45:06.380 still pretty good
00:45:07.120 years.
00:45:08.740 I'm expecting
00:45:09.600 that my 70s will
00:45:10.660 be a pretty good
00:45:12.120 decade, actually.
00:45:13.240 as long as I
00:45:14.200 stay healthy.
00:45:18.480 Now, the other
00:45:19.500 thing is that if
00:45:20.500 you're one of the
00:45:21.780 older people who
00:45:22.580 does not want to
00:45:23.520 sacrifice your
00:45:24.820 life, you do
00:45:26.620 have the option
00:45:27.280 of taking extreme
00:45:28.580 steps.
00:45:30.060 So you could,
00:45:31.480 you know, do
00:45:32.000 extreme social
00:45:32.920 isolation and
00:45:33.760 masking and stuff
00:45:34.660 for another
00:45:35.420 X months until
00:45:37.080 you felt safe.
00:45:38.240 So people who
00:45:39.060 did not want to
00:45:39.860 take the personal
00:45:40.560 risk, they were
00:45:41.580 willing to take
00:45:42.260 the class risk
00:45:43.640 of like, okay,
00:45:44.920 old people are
00:45:45.540 going to have a
00:45:46.000 tough time, I'll
00:45:46.580 take that risk, but
00:45:47.660 I don't want to
00:45:48.140 personally take the
00:45:48.960 risk.
00:45:49.700 They have that
00:45:50.460 option, too.
00:45:51.660 They can reduce
00:45:52.380 their own risk to
00:45:53.240 practically nothing
00:45:54.060 if they have the
00:45:56.200 wherewithal to get
00:45:56.900 social isolation.
00:45:57.860 I guess that's not
00:45:58.480 available to everybody.
00:45:59.300 So let's figure that
00:46:04.500 out.
00:46:06.180 A young life is
00:46:07.360 worth more than a
00:46:08.320 lived life, says
00:46:10.400 somebody.
00:46:11.520 Well, I would say
00:46:12.840 there's a lot of
00:46:13.740 individual difference
00:46:14.980 there.
00:46:16.500 As a good general
00:46:17.560 statement, sure.
00:46:19.380 Somebody says the
00:46:20.320 White House press
00:46:21.100 secretary is gone.
00:46:22.900 Is that news?
00:46:25.240 Did that just
00:46:26.060 happen?
00:46:26.340 70-year-olds
00:46:29.420 volunteered to
00:46:30.140 clean up the
00:46:30.640 mess of Fukushima.
00:46:32.200 That does not
00:46:33.140 surprise me.
00:46:34.740 Let's see if
00:46:35.940 there's any news
00:46:37.000 about the press
00:46:38.180 secretary.
00:46:41.660 Coroners cast doubt
00:46:42.880 on official
00:46:43.480 coronavirus death
00:46:44.600 tolls.
00:46:45.160 CNN exclusive.
00:46:47.140 Interesting.
00:46:49.220 Interesting.
00:46:49.820 Let me just see
00:46:51.880 what the headline
00:46:52.360 is.
00:46:53.940 Coroners.
00:46:56.940 Yeah, because
00:46:57.720 nobody's really
00:46:58.760 testing them to
00:46:59.640 see if they died
00:47:00.340 from the
00:47:01.000 coronavirus.
00:47:05.660 So apparently
00:47:06.660 there's just a
00:47:07.260 mess with the
00:47:08.020 reporting it.
00:47:09.620 So that's why I
00:47:10.260 come out to the
00:47:11.460 you have to look at
00:47:12.700 just the total
00:47:13.440 average deaths in
00:47:14.560 the country year
00:47:15.880 to year because I
00:47:16.980 think that's the
00:47:17.420 only thing that's
00:47:17.960 going to tell us
00:47:18.440 what's going on.
00:47:19.820 Somebody says
00:47:22.140 I'm 61 not
00:47:23.200 ready to go
00:47:23.860 still working
00:47:24.580 in essential
00:47:25.400 job.
00:47:26.880 Well, you know
00:47:27.280 for the people
00:47:27.940 who it seems
00:47:30.700 to me that
00:47:32.600 let me let me
00:47:33.520 ask you this.
00:47:34.220 So to the
00:47:34.700 person who is
00:47:35.260 61 who works
00:47:36.540 in essential
00:47:37.060 job and
00:47:37.720 definitely doesn't
00:47:38.420 want to die
00:47:38.900 which I
00:47:40.160 certainly understand
00:47:40.960 would you feel
00:47:43.320 more comfortable
00:47:43.960 if they gave
00:47:44.740 you the
00:47:45.440 the Z-Pak
00:47:47.240 hydroxy
00:47:49.120 chloroquine
00:47:49.740 if they gave
00:47:50.640 it to you
00:47:51.220 as a
00:47:51.700 preventative
00:47:52.260 for a few
00:47:54.620 months during
00:47:55.280 the worst
00:47:55.740 of the
00:47:56.160 coronavirus
00:47:56.940 would you
00:47:57.900 feel comfortable
00:47:58.540 going back
00:47:59.040 to work
00:47:59.480 assuming you
00:48:01.020 did all your
00:48:01.460 social isolating
00:48:02.320 and your
00:48:02.660 masking and
00:48:03.300 stuff.
00:48:04.360 Would that
00:48:04.800 make you
00:48:05.200 comfortable
00:48:05.600 enough if
00:48:06.620 you just
00:48:06.980 knew that
00:48:07.320 you had
00:48:07.560 that drug
00:48:08.000 in you?
00:48:08.780 Now my
00:48:09.300 understanding
00:48:09.720 is it
00:48:10.140 doesn't
00:48:10.460 prevent
00:48:11.020 you from
00:48:12.160 getting it.
00:48:14.020 Maybe it
00:48:14.620 does but I
00:48:15.580 don't think
00:48:15.940 that's been
00:48:16.380 demonstrated
00:48:16.960 even
00:48:17.420 anecdotally
00:48:18.120 what
00:48:19.500 the reason
00:48:21.420 you would
00:48:21.660 have it
00:48:21.980 is that
00:48:22.360 if you
00:48:22.820 got the
00:48:23.140 infection
00:48:23.500 it would
00:48:23.840 already be
00:48:24.280 in your
00:48:24.540 system
00:48:25.040 so it
00:48:25.540 would be
00:48:25.720 the
00:48:25.940 you know
00:48:27.740 Fauci is
00:48:29.460 80?
00:48:30.980 Is he?
00:48:32.420 Fauci isn't
00:48:33.140 80 is he?
00:48:33.880 He's in great
00:48:34.340 shape if he's
00:48:34.960 80.
00:48:40.440 Coroners want
00:48:41.140 to know where
00:48:41.720 are the
00:48:42.120 bodies?
00:48:42.480 Well I
00:48:44.760 don't think
00:48:45.420 that there's
00:48:45.860 any scandal
00:48:46.500 of hiding
00:48:47.060 bodies is
00:48:47.820 there?
00:48:48.540 Didn't you
00:48:48.880 just hear
00:48:49.280 that wasn't
00:48:49.960 it one of
00:48:51.700 the parks
00:48:52.180 in New
00:48:53.260 York City
00:48:53.640 was going
00:48:54.000 to be
00:48:54.200 dug up
00:48:54.660 for temporary
00:48:55.580 mass graves?
00:48:57.180 Do we do
00:48:57.980 that every
00:48:58.400 year with
00:48:58.780 the regular
00:48:59.140 flu?
00:49:00.200 Do we
00:49:00.460 build mass
00:49:01.640 temporary
00:49:02.140 graves in
00:49:02.780 Central Park?
00:49:04.120 There's
00:49:04.400 something going
00:49:04.960 on here.
00:49:09.780 You can
00:49:10.460 die with
00:49:10.920 the virus
00:49:11.500 but not
00:49:12.000 from the
00:49:12.960 virus
00:49:13.400 it says
00:49:13.860 somebody.
00:49:18.580 All right
00:49:19.240 yeah so
00:49:19.720 people are
00:49:20.120 saying yes
00:49:20.600 that they
00:49:21.160 would feel
00:49:21.980 comfortable
00:49:22.480 going back.
00:49:23.520 Now keep
00:49:23.840 in mind
00:49:24.200 that for
00:49:26.120 every person
00:49:26.740 who has an
00:49:27.180 actual medical
00:49:28.060 like physical
00:49:29.040 medical problem
00:49:29.900 from the
00:49:30.380 coronavirus
00:49:30.760 there are
00:49:32.080 25 people
00:49:33.140 who have a
00:49:34.000 mental problem
00:49:34.640 from it.
00:49:35.820 So the
00:49:36.140 psychological
00:49:36.780 problem
00:49:38.400 of coronavirus
00:49:39.880 virus is
00:49:41.660 pretty big
00:49:42.280 you know
00:49:42.660 the risk
00:49:43.080 of getting
00:49:43.440 in the
00:49:43.820 worry
00:49:44.160 and all
00:49:44.500 that.
00:49:45.600 So if
00:49:46.180 the
00:49:46.540 hydroxychloroquine
00:49:48.720 did nothing
00:49:49.420 except make
00:49:50.420 you feel
00:49:50.800 more comfortable
00:49:51.460 even if you
00:49:53.160 weren't
00:49:53.500 it'd still
00:49:55.080 totally be
00:49:55.660 worth it.
00:49:57.900 It causes
00:49:58.680 depression in
00:49:59.480 the long run.
00:50:00.080 I don't know
00:50:00.320 what you're
00:50:00.520 talking about.
00:50:02.220 Fauci is
00:50:02.900 79.
00:50:03.540 People are
00:50:03.860 saying he
00:50:04.280 must
00:50:04.520 he runs
00:50:06.760 every day.
00:50:08.100 It looks
00:50:08.440 like he's
00:50:08.760 in good
00:50:09.000 shape.
00:50:11.880 That's a
00:50:12.520 good argument
00:50:13.020 for being
00:50:14.440 fit all
00:50:15.200 of your
00:50:15.480 life.
00:50:16.660 If you
00:50:16.860 look at
00:50:17.160 Fauci
00:50:17.680 he certainly
00:50:20.100 presents
00:50:20.720 himself as
00:50:21.320 a much
00:50:21.640 younger man
00:50:22.380 and that
00:50:23.780 would make
00:50:24.140 sense if
00:50:24.560 he runs
00:50:24.880 every day.
00:50:28.540 So I
00:50:29.700 have seen
00:50:30.060 people saying
00:50:30.720 that the
00:50:32.160 White House
00:50:33.920 spokesperson
00:50:35.280 quit.
00:50:36.360 I don't
00:50:36.700 know about
00:50:37.000 that.
00:50:39.860 Shouldn't
00:50:40.380 the homeless
00:50:40.860 be getting
00:50:41.380 the virus?
00:50:42.400 Well maybe.
00:50:46.260 We'll need
00:50:47.040 to bury
00:50:47.400 all the
00:50:47.760 ventilators.
00:50:49.560 You know
00:50:50.220 if I had
00:50:50.740 to guess
00:50:51.280 I think
00:50:53.380 that a
00:50:53.720 whole bunch
00:50:54.180 of big
00:50:54.840 American
00:50:55.260 companies
00:50:55.760 are going
00:50:56.080 to be
00:50:56.280 really pissed
00:50:56.940 off that
00:50:58.280 they started
00:50:58.940 making
00:50:59.320 ventilators
00:51:00.060 that we
00:51:00.680 didn't need.
00:51:01.840 I feel
00:51:02.720 like it's
00:51:03.080 heading in
00:51:03.400 that direction
00:51:03.880 now of
00:51:04.980 course it
00:51:05.480 makes more
00:51:05.900 sense to
00:51:06.380 be more
00:51:06.900 prepared
00:51:07.400 versus
00:51:08.400 underprepared
00:51:09.220 so we
00:51:10.260 should still
00:51:10.700 be making
00:51:11.120 those
00:51:11.360 ventilators
00:51:11.840 like crazy
00:51:12.420 just in
00:51:12.900 case.
00:51:14.020 But
00:51:14.140 so somebody
00:51:17.020 says Stephanie
00:51:17.660 Grisham is
00:51:18.300 reported to
00:51:19.060 be leaving
00:51:19.500 so maybe
00:51:20.600 that's not
00:51:21.200 maybe that's
00:51:23.340 not confirmed.
00:51:26.440 All right.
00:51:28.620 Okay I'm
00:51:29.500 getting
00:51:29.660 confirmations
00:51:30.380 of the
00:51:30.660 comments
00:51:31.000 that Stephanie
00:51:31.620 Grisham
00:51:32.060 stepped down.
00:51:32.960 that kind
00:51:33.740 of makes
00:51:34.000 sense
00:51:34.300 doesn't
00:51:34.620 it?
00:51:35.380 I don't
00:51:35.900 even know
00:51:36.200 what she
00:51:36.380 looks like.
00:51:38.240 The
00:51:38.640 spokesperson
00:51:39.160 for the
00:51:39.920 president of
00:51:40.420 the United
00:51:40.620 States
00:51:40.980 I can't
00:51:42.000 tell you
00:51:42.220 what she
00:51:42.460 looks like
00:51:42.900 I wouldn't
00:51:43.220 recognize her
00:51:43.780 would you?
00:51:45.060 And
00:51:45.360 I think
00:51:47.280 this president
00:51:47.880 doesn't really
00:51:48.460 need one of
00:51:49.000 those.
00:51:50.680 It seems
00:51:51.500 like an
00:51:51.800 almost
00:51:52.140 or at least
00:51:53.380 in terms of
00:51:53.840 the public
00:51:54.440 part where
00:51:54.960 the spokesperson
00:51:55.440 talks to
00:51:56.320 the public
00:51:56.800 don't really
00:51:57.800 need that
00:51:58.140 part.
00:51:58.380 so I
00:52:00.040 can see
00:52:00.360 why she
00:52:02.160 might want
00:52:02.480 to move
00:52:02.700 on.
00:52:06.420 Says she's
00:52:07.180 returning to
00:52:08.080 the First
00:52:09.260 Lady staff.
00:52:11.540 All right.
00:52:15.860 She was
00:52:16.560 reassigned to
00:52:17.200 her previous
00:52:17.620 post.
00:52:18.160 Okay.
00:52:20.500 Prisoners
00:52:20.980 should get
00:52:21.340 the Trump
00:52:21.740 pills.
00:52:22.140 Well we
00:52:22.420 should all
00:52:22.700 get the
00:52:22.980 Trump pills.
00:52:23.720 Obviously
00:52:24.120 there's not
00:52:24.720 a supply
00:52:26.080 of them.
00:52:26.500 wouldn't
00:52:28.600 you like
00:52:28.940 to have
00:52:29.180 some
00:52:29.360 visibility
00:52:29.860 on the
00:52:30.260 supply?
00:52:31.880 So the
00:52:32.620 president
00:52:32.920 said we
00:52:33.520 got X
00:52:34.580 millions of
00:52:35.140 pills from
00:52:35.800 this source
00:52:36.300 or this
00:52:36.600 source.
00:52:37.200 Is that
00:52:37.520 enough?
00:52:38.380 Is that
00:52:38.700 a lot?
00:52:39.700 What are
00:52:39.980 they doing
00:52:40.300 with them?
00:52:40.820 Are they
00:52:41.060 allocating
00:52:41.540 them?
00:52:42.100 Can
00:52:42.280 prisoners
00:52:42.660 get them?
00:52:43.700 How about
00:52:44.080 old people?
00:52:44.740 What about
00:52:45.040 people who
00:52:45.740 don't show
00:52:46.300 symptoms?
00:52:47.200 So it's
00:52:48.140 the most
00:52:48.460 important
00:52:48.780 variable in
00:52:49.460 which we
00:52:49.800 have no
00:52:50.200 information
00:52:50.680 at all.
00:52:52.680 And if
00:52:54.040 Stephanie
00:52:54.460 Grisham
00:52:54.960 had been
00:52:56.280 pushing
00:52:57.720 the task
00:53:00.080 force to
00:53:00.760 give good
00:53:02.060 information,
00:53:03.540 maybe that's
00:53:04.240 why she
00:53:04.500 got fired.
00:53:05.840 So think
00:53:06.260 about this.
00:53:07.620 Nobody's
00:53:08.180 complained about
00:53:08.780 the communication
00:53:09.520 of the task
00:53:10.120 force more
00:53:10.580 than I have.
00:53:11.160 Is that
00:53:11.380 true?
00:53:12.140 Would you
00:53:12.560 agree that
00:53:13.060 nobody has
00:53:13.700 had more
00:53:14.340 sharper,
00:53:16.440 deeper
00:53:16.720 complaints about
00:53:17.860 the quality
00:53:18.540 of the
00:53:18.840 communication
00:53:19.460 from the
00:53:20.700 task force
00:53:21.420 than me?
00:53:22.860 I've been
00:53:23.500 the harshest
00:53:24.340 about that.
00:53:24.900 I think a
00:53:25.400 total failure
00:53:26.300 in communication.
00:53:28.580 Specifically,
00:53:29.420 not telling
00:53:30.020 the public
00:53:30.560 a little
00:53:31.780 better idea
00:53:32.640 of at least
00:53:33.180 what they
00:53:33.580 know.
00:53:34.140 Even if
00:53:34.600 they don't
00:53:35.020 know things,
00:53:35.540 they should
00:53:35.780 tell us
00:53:36.080 what they
00:53:36.360 don't know
00:53:36.820 and what
00:53:37.080 they do
00:53:37.360 know about
00:53:38.320 the supply
00:53:38.900 situation
00:53:39.620 and the
00:53:41.000 hydroxychloroquine
00:53:41.960 and the
00:53:42.300 ventilators and
00:53:42.900 everything else.
00:53:43.780 So I've
00:53:44.040 been the
00:53:44.520 harshest
00:53:44.980 critic saying
00:53:45.860 that the
00:53:46.180 whole things
00:53:46.720 are just
00:53:47.200 a horrible,
00:53:51.720 I don't want
00:53:52.360 to use the
00:53:52.840 word I
00:53:53.100 was going
00:53:53.320 to use.
00:53:54.280 But would
00:53:56.780 it be a
00:53:57.240 surprise to
00:53:57.920 me to
00:53:59.300 watch a
00:53:59.800 person who
00:54:00.400 is a
00:54:00.800 professional
00:54:01.500 in charge
00:54:02.240 of this
00:54:03.560 kind of
00:54:03.960 communication
00:54:04.620 have some
00:54:06.740 conflict with
00:54:07.520 the people
00:54:07.900 who are
00:54:08.200 blowing it
00:54:08.860 in public
00:54:09.580 every day?
00:54:10.980 Now in
00:54:11.600 my opinion,
00:54:12.760 the task
00:54:13.280 force is
00:54:13.820 blowing it
00:54:14.400 every day.
00:54:15.360 Like they're
00:54:15.880 failing,
00:54:16.600 it's just
00:54:16.980 an F.
00:54:18.160 In
00:54:18.460 communicating
00:54:19.260 with the
00:54:19.740 public,
00:54:20.080 I would
00:54:20.280 say it's
00:54:20.820 just a
00:54:21.300 flat F
00:54:22.680 day after
00:54:23.260 day.
00:54:25.580 It's always
00:54:26.180 the same
00:54:26.520 reason.
00:54:27.100 It's not
00:54:27.420 that the
00:54:27.720 president isn't
00:54:28.520 entertaining,
00:54:29.260 it's not
00:54:29.560 that he
00:54:29.800 doesn't get
00:54:30.260 good ratings,
00:54:32.040 it's not
00:54:32.380 that the
00:54:32.860 public doesn't
00:54:33.960 enjoy it,
00:54:34.480 it's not
00:54:34.800 that we
00:54:35.500 don't learn
00:54:35.960 things,
00:54:36.340 because we
00:54:36.680 do.
00:54:37.420 And it
00:54:37.920 educates us
00:54:38.640 about how
00:54:40.060 to socially
00:54:41.260 isolate and
00:54:41.900 all that.
00:54:42.560 So there
00:54:43.140 are lots of
00:54:43.620 value to
00:54:45.300 the task
00:54:45.900 force
00:54:46.200 presentations.
00:54:47.020 I watch
00:54:47.460 most of
00:54:48.200 them,
00:54:48.980 so I would
00:54:49.660 say the
00:54:49.980 value is
00:54:50.640 very high,
00:54:51.760 but the
00:54:52.800 skill in
00:54:55.140 terms of
00:54:55.720 the primary
00:54:56.560 message,
00:54:57.560 which is
00:54:58.520 inform the
00:54:59.380 public of
00:55:00.200 the useful
00:55:00.680 information,
00:55:01.620 that's just
00:55:02.340 an F.
00:55:03.540 So imagine
00:55:04.240 you're the
00:55:04.860 professional
00:55:05.380 who's most
00:55:06.120 identified with
00:55:08.020 the messages
00:55:08.580 coming out of
00:55:09.200 the White
00:55:09.460 House.
00:55:10.240 You don't
00:55:11.040 get to
00:55:11.440 change how
00:55:12.000 they do
00:55:12.320 it,
00:55:12.700 because
00:55:12.840 obviously
00:55:13.300 they're not
00:55:13.740 listening to
00:55:14.280 her,
00:55:14.520 wouldn't
00:55:14.720 you say?
00:55:15.800 I mean,
00:55:16.240 I don't
00:55:16.480 think anybody
00:55:16.880 is listening
00:55:17.360 to her
00:55:17.700 opinion.
00:55:18.760 So here
00:55:19.080 she is
00:55:19.460 watching the
00:55:20.100 people who
00:55:20.540 are doing
00:55:20.820 the thing
00:55:21.220 she's supposed
00:55:21.680 to be in
00:55:22.040 charge of,
00:55:22.580 which is
00:55:22.960 communicating,
00:55:24.460 and they're
00:55:25.620 failing every
00:55:26.660 day,
00:55:27.580 and they're
00:55:28.200 not listening
00:55:28.720 to her
00:55:29.180 advice,
00:55:29.800 because you
00:55:30.140 know they're
00:55:30.460 not,
00:55:31.300 right?
00:55:32.760 I mean,
00:55:33.320 you don't
00:55:33.580 have to be
00:55:34.000 in the
00:55:34.260 room to
00:55:35.360 know that
00:55:35.780 if she
00:55:36.080 just resigned
00:55:36.780 it's because
00:55:37.300 they weren't
00:55:37.640 listening to
00:55:38.160 her,
00:55:38.760 right?
00:55:39.960 I don't
00:55:40.640 think there
00:55:40.960 was another
00:55:41.440 reason,
00:55:42.620 you know?
00:55:43.160 It had to
00:55:43.880 be that she
00:55:44.340 was not being
00:55:44.940 taken seriously,
00:55:46.060 her opinion
00:55:47.200 on how to do
00:55:47.860 this just
00:55:48.260 wasn't winning
00:55:48.860 the day,
00:55:49.420 apparently.
00:55:50.800 So,
00:55:52.580 yeah,
00:55:53.240 if I were
00:55:54.220 her,
00:55:54.540 I think I
00:55:54.980 would have
00:55:55.280 quit.
00:55:56.080 If I had to
00:55:57.100 be in charge
00:55:57.840 of communication
00:55:58.780 and wouldn't
00:55:59.860 have any
00:56:00.280 influence on
00:56:01.000 it,
00:56:01.160 and then I
00:56:01.480 had to watch
00:56:01.900 the people
00:56:02.340 who should be
00:56:04.020 taking my
00:56:04.520 advice go out
00:56:05.300 there and
00:56:05.720 fail,
00:56:06.780 just fail,
00:56:08.640 day after
00:56:09.480 day after
00:56:10.320 day,
00:56:10.980 and fail
00:56:11.720 exactly the
00:56:12.600 same way,
00:56:13.300 by not
00:56:14.340 giving us
00:56:14.840 any useful
00:56:15.400 information in
00:56:16.140 context,
00:56:17.020 that would
00:56:18.060 drive you
00:56:18.460 crazy.
00:56:19.300 How could
00:56:19.660 you keep
00:56:20.020 that job?
00:56:21.680 So,
00:56:22.320 of course
00:56:23.140 she should
00:56:23.520 leave.
00:56:25.780 All right,
00:56:26.560 that's about
00:56:26.900 all I got
00:56:27.260 for today.
00:56:28.340 I will
00:56:28.820 try to,
00:56:31.800 somebody
00:56:33.360 says,
00:56:33.900 so it's
00:56:34.200 not an
00:56:34.600 F.
00:56:35.260 Let me
00:56:35.580 be clear,
00:56:36.500 there's lots
00:56:37.400 of value
00:56:38.080 in the press
00:56:38.900 conferences,
00:56:39.480 so I'd
00:56:39.700 like to
00:56:40.000 see that.
00:56:41.460 Lots of
00:56:41.920 value,
00:56:42.680 but in
00:56:43.140 terms of
00:56:43.600 communicating,
00:56:45.180 the specific
00:56:45.900 skill of
00:56:46.500 communicating,
00:56:47.300 which is a
00:56:47.780 subset of
00:56:48.640 the value
00:56:49.120 of the
00:56:49.580 press
00:56:50.040 conference,
00:56:51.460 just the
00:56:52.200 communicating
00:56:52.640 part is
00:56:53.140 enough,
00:56:53.980 because they
00:56:55.460 simply don't
00:56:56.000 answer the
00:56:56.460 important
00:56:56.760 questions,
00:56:57.860 nor do
00:56:58.440 they even
00:56:58.880 tell you
00:56:59.240 they can't
00:56:59.740 answer them,
00:57:00.220 nor do
00:57:00.440 they tell
00:57:00.740 you they
00:57:01.060 will answer
00:57:01.600 them,
00:57:02.440 just
00:57:02.880 completely
00:57:03.500 avoiding
00:57:04.020 all the
00:57:04.480 important
00:57:04.820 questions
00:57:05.380 about
00:57:06.500 supply,
00:57:07.740 and about
00:57:08.880 getting back
00:57:09.300 to work.
00:57:10.620 All right,
00:57:10.940 somebody says
00:57:12.080 you're
00:57:12.320 speaking
00:57:12.700 from
00:57:13.180 fear.
00:57:15.520 Am I?
00:57:16.900 I don't
00:57:17.580 know,
00:57:18.160 that gets
00:57:18.520 you blocked.
00:57:19.820 So,
00:57:20.580 for those
00:57:21.120 of you
00:57:21.440 who haven't
00:57:22.040 figured out
00:57:22.500 the pattern
00:57:23.080 yet,
00:57:24.200 you never
00:57:25.080 get blocked
00:57:25.600 for disagreeing
00:57:26.460 with me.
00:57:27.500 That's a
00:57:28.180 hard rule.
00:57:29.140 You can
00:57:29.460 disagree all
00:57:30.260 you want,
00:57:31.340 but when
00:57:32.260 you tell me
00:57:32.780 what I'm
00:57:33.260 thinking,
00:57:34.200 you get
00:57:34.600 blocked,
00:57:35.280 because I
00:57:36.740 need,
00:57:37.660 I want an
00:57:38.320 audience that
00:57:38.880 understands the
00:57:39.600 difference,
00:57:40.060 between me
00:57:42.400 knowing what
00:57:42.920 I'm thinking,
00:57:43.620 and I can
00:57:44.020 be pretty
00:57:44.620 accurate about
00:57:45.180 that,
00:57:45.840 versus you
00:57:46.800 knowing what
00:57:48.300 I'm thinking.
00:57:49.160 If you say
00:57:50.020 in public,
00:57:51.280 your opinion
00:57:51.920 of what I'm
00:57:52.700 thinking,
00:57:53.720 I'm just
00:57:54.080 going to
00:57:54.300 block you,
00:57:54.960 because I
00:57:55.280 don't have
00:57:55.600 time for
00:57:56.000 people like
00:57:56.500 that in
00:57:56.760 my world.
00:57:58.080 That's the
00:57:58.980 lowest level
00:57:59.780 of understanding
00:58:00.540 your world,
00:58:01.600 imagining you
00:58:02.320 can read
00:58:02.660 somebody's
00:58:03.100 mind.
00:58:03.380 And on
00:58:07.260 that note,
00:58:08.400 I hope to
00:58:08.940 see you
00:58:09.360 later tonight,
00:58:11.860 10 and
00:58:12.280 10.
00:58:13.440 That's East
00:58:13.940 Coast time,
00:58:14.640 7 and 7 if
00:58:15.500 you're in
00:58:15.880 California,
00:58:16.560 and why
00:58:17.080 wouldn't you
00:58:17.460 be?
00:58:18.840 California is
00:58:19.580 actually doing
00:58:20.140 an unusually
00:58:20.960 good job now,
00:58:21.840 isn't that
00:58:22.100 weird?
00:58:23.280 It's weird
00:58:23.980 that California
00:58:24.740 is being
00:58:26.100 held up as
00:58:27.940 one of the
00:58:28.460 successful
00:58:29.160 states,
00:58:30.600 but I got a
00:58:31.360 feeling it
00:58:31.780 might be more
00:58:32.500 to do with
00:58:32.940 the fact
00:58:33.260 that we
00:58:33.640 Californians
00:58:34.360 don't bunch
00:58:35.120 up as
00:58:35.500 much.
00:58:36.560 We don't
00:58:36.980 get on
00:58:37.320 subways,
00:58:38.060 we don't
00:58:38.300 have public
00:58:39.140 transportation,
00:58:39.920 I'm talking
00:58:40.200 about Los
00:58:40.720 Angeles in
00:58:41.260 particular,
00:58:42.180 don't have
00:58:42.620 public
00:58:42.900 transportation,
00:58:44.320 don't have
00:58:45.820 as many
00:58:46.140 elevators.
00:58:48.440 I've got a
00:58:48.860 feeling that
00:58:49.480 there's just
00:58:50.660 something about
00:58:51.620 the fact that
00:58:52.260 Los Angeles
00:58:53.400 tend to
00:58:55.740 drive their
00:58:56.140 cars by
00:58:56.580 themselves.
00:58:57.640 They don't
00:58:57.940 have passengers
00:58:58.540 in their
00:58:58.920 cars.
00:58:59.740 So it's
00:58:59.980 probably as
00:59:00.560 much about
00:59:00.960 lifestyle as
00:59:01.700 it is about
00:59:02.340 good management.
00:59:03.960 But anyway,
00:59:04.480 it's working
00:59:04.840 out.
00:59:05.640 All right,
00:59:06.300 that's all
00:59:06.700 for now.
00:59:07.560 I'll talk to
00:59:08.120 you later
00:59:08.440 tonight.
00:59:09.740 Stay safe.
00:59:10.360 Thank you.