Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 923 Scott Adams： #Coronavirus, The Simulation and Next Level Human Awareness

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00:00:30.000 hey you know what would be great i'll tell you what would be great

00:00:37.020 this would be great it's called the simultaneous sip

00:00:41.040 it's probably what you're waiting for if you would like to participate it

00:00:45.960 doesn't take much all you need is singing along with me you know the

00:00:52.620 words no you don't but imagine you do just

00:00:56.000 imagine you can say it in your head a cup or a mug or a glass of tanker

00:00:59.860 jealous or stein a canteen jug or flask a vessel of any kind

00:01:03.000 fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me now for the

00:01:07.980 unparalleled pleasure of the dopamine at the end of the day the thing that makes

00:01:10.760 everything including the pandemic better get your herd immunity on and join

00:01:16.280 me for the simultaneous sip it happens now go

00:01:20.180 immunity coming online i feel as though i could fight off any old virus

00:01:32.260 be it bioengineered in a chinese weapons lab or be it coming from a dead bat 0.97

00:01:41.180 on the street market either one of those no problem well let's talk about

00:01:47.660 everything that's happened in the last 11 hours since the last time i talked to

00:01:51.700 you it appears that chinese china's reputation in the world continues to get

00:01:59.660 worse i guess germany is going after him hard in terms of the media so there's some

00:02:05.380 stories about how hard the german media is going after china and the u.s media

00:02:11.980 seems to be at least the media from the right seems to be on board anti-china

00:02:19.020 i'm not sure if the left is fully on board i think nancy pelosi is still siding with china 0.60

00:02:26.580 you know independent of politics there are some things you can say about politics that

00:02:35.640 are just objectively true and i think this is objectively true

00:02:40.040 nancy pelosi is not really on our side anymore is she 1.00

00:02:43.960 and i don't mean you know our side pro-trump anti-trump like that

00:02:48.740 i mean i'm not sure she's on america's side anymore

00:02:52.160 and it's got it's got that far normally i'm not the person who says oh don't call

00:02:57.540 them a traitor they're just have different political beliefs and stuff

00:03:00.980 but my opinion of pelosi is that her actions are entirely based on

00:03:06.020 trump personally right it feels like everything that she does

00:03:12.680 has to do with trump personally it doesn't have to do with the voters doesn't

00:03:17.760 have to do with the country doesn't have to do with

00:03:19.620 congress or the government it's just personal and if she can't get out of

00:03:25.200 that mode well we don't need her in any position 1.00

00:03:29.340 in our country so i would say you know and i'm not saying just because she's

00:03:33.960 you know important democrat or anything she seems to be absolutely completely

00:03:39.280 worthless we know beyond worthless worthless would just be she's not 1.00

00:03:43.240 helping pelosi seems actively working against the

00:03:46.980 interests of the united states because she's got something bug in her 1.00

00:03:50.180 bonnet you know i don't want to read her mind

00:03:51.960 so i'll just say she acts as though if you're just looking at her actions

00:03:56.540 she acts as though it's just some kind of personal thing

00:03:58.840 that would be my cat's tail that you're seeing

00:04:03.360 so boo would like to say hi again apparently

00:04:06.780 say hi boo

00:04:08.960 all right that's enough of that um in every single day that i open up the

00:04:18.140 news it looks like it looks like there's just more hatred for

00:04:22.440 china it's just growing and growing and growing 0.99

00:04:25.440 and here's what i would worry about

00:04:29.140 this is a persuasion trick people become whatever you

00:04:36.000 you act like they are so boo stop it

00:04:41.620 uh so here's an example if if you meet somebody new for the first time

00:04:48.160 and you simply act like you're their best friend

00:04:51.260 how do they act well they just sort of automatically

00:04:55.480 act friendlier you know they might not act like your best friend but if you act

00:04:59.700 friendly to people they act friendly back it's just automatic

00:05:02.280 we we mirror people automatically if you treat somebody like an enemy

00:05:07.540 how will they act well if you treat them like an enemy they're going to act like

00:05:12.780 an enemy so to a large extent it's not a hundred percent

00:05:16.960 you know effective but to a large extent you can cause other people to

00:05:21.900 become what you want by treating them that way

00:05:25.820 you can actually treat somebody like a friend until they become a friend

00:05:30.100 treat them like an enemy until they become one

00:05:32.540 now china was kind of a special case because apparently at least culturally we're told

00:05:38.000 uh the chinese culture has some kind of dominant conquering 0.54

00:05:44.800 we must take over the world kind of a vibe to it which honestly i would say is unconfirmed

00:05:52.900 yeah my cat's just going crazy over there now i have to move all the things on my

00:05:59.260 desktop because she's knocking them on the ground 0.93

00:06:01.700 bad kitty

00:06:03.320 um so here's the thing if we just tell china china you have done all these bad things you stole our 0.89

00:06:13.520 stuff and you you lied about the coronavirus and you're locking uyghurs in concentration camp and 0.98

00:06:19.620 you're using uh full-on goon people for you know forced uh uh transplants um if you're doing all

00:06:29.340 that so we're going to treat you like an enemy how would china respond well i think they'd respond 0.90

00:06:34.180 like an enemy we've we've tried to treat them like a friend and i think we'd all agree it didn't

00:06:40.000 work right it feels like it was worth a try i wouldn't i don't think i would have any bad

00:06:46.080 feeling about anybody who wanted to get closer to china in the past because it kind of was worth

00:06:51.640 a try but now we tried right so the the trying is over we tried it clearly didn't work being friends

00:07:01.760 with them just isn't a model that can work for us now we don't have to be their enemy that would be

00:07:06.880 the worst thing we could do the worst thing we could do is just say all right you're our enemy

00:07:11.140 now so we're just going to treat you like an enemy wouldn't do that i would go a different way

00:07:15.960 and i would depersonalize it and i think the president's instincts would be similar because 1.00

00:07:20.300 he's he's big on being respectful to the leadership for practical purposes and you know the the idiot 0.99

00:07:28.380 opposition acts as though trump can't tell the difference between president she oh man did i 1.00

00:07:36.940 want to swear just then whoa every once in a while the the curse words just well up into my throat

00:07:43.260 and i have to like eat them to choke them back but i was going to say some unkind things about

00:07:49.140 president she so i'll say them in less cursy tones president trump apparently is smarter than

00:07:56.740 all of his critics on the left unless they're just pretending because quite obviously and he's not

00:08:03.060 trying to hide it even in the least when he talks about president she being awesome and powerful and 0.96

00:08:09.000 a good friend of his that's not personal he's not actually talking about his good friend president 1.00

00:08:16.760 she if you believe that you're an idiot no the president is treating the leader of the biggest 1.00

00:08:24.360 country in the world at least in population with respect because that's functionally the best thing to 1.00

00:08:30.760 do it's obvious it's just for effect now does he like him personally maybe i don't know i mean they

00:08:37.400 spent some time together he might like him personally but believe me whatever president trump says about

00:08:43.240 president she in public to the united states is for effect it's not what he actually thinks 0.96

00:08:50.920 how dumb would you have to be to think that the president this is the only time he's telling you 0.93

00:08:56.120 exactly what he really thinks no he's the president he's treating other leaders with respect he tells you 0.99

00:09:02.360 that directly he says it directly of course i'm treating the leaders with respect and then he goes hard at

00:09:09.560 them with tariffs and other complaints so um so i think the president's on the same page which you

00:09:16.600 don't need to treat them like an enemy at but at the same time you could be clear eyed about what the

00:09:23.000 risk is so here's how i would go i said this before but i'm going to say it better rather than treating china

00:09:29.080 as an enemy we should treat it as an incompatible system we should just say you know we we've got this

00:09:35.480 electronic thing we want to plug into the wall socket but we need voltage of 110 you've got 220

00:09:44.280 well it's not our it's not our opinion that that's good or bad we're not criticizing you you're not our

00:09:49.720 enemy i'm just saying i have a toaster it requires 110 but your system is 220. we tried plugging in and it

00:09:57.320 blew up my toaster and then we tried plugging in the you know the the hair dryer and hair dryer blew up too

00:10:05.480 so then we tried plugging in our electric car and my tesla blew up and then i tried you know plugging

00:10:10.920 in my phone and my phone blew up how many things do we have to blow up before we find out that you

00:10:17.640 can't plug a 110 device into a 220 outlet so we so he says get an adapter stop it you engineers stop ruining

00:10:27.160 my analogy with your clever clever engineering solutions my point is we should just say while

00:10:36.200 you have a system that doesn't have transparency you can't connect to a system that does now do we

00:10:42.680 have all the transparency in the world no you know even the united states could have far better transparency

00:10:49.640 but it's pretty good wouldn't you say i mean we are pretty close to transparent i mean we even have

00:10:56.840 we even have transparency on things that didn't happen we have so much transparency we know the

00:11:02.120 things that did happen behind closed doors plus people are writing entire books about things that

00:11:07.480 didn't even happen we have whatever is more than transparency we have people actually making stuff up

00:11:13.800 and they still don't go to jail imagine that in china imagine china somebody writes a book and you

00:11:22.840 just make up a bunch of stuff that happened behind closed doors that the president said oh yeah then

00:11:27.560 president xi said you know let's uh let's kill all the uyghurs or whatever and imagine that how long that 1.00

00:11:34.120 would last in china so not only does the united states have transparency but we have whatever's past that 0.95

00:11:42.280 where people can just make stuff up and they still don't go to jail it's kind of amazing actually

00:11:48.520 so i think you could boil it down to that you can't plug a transparent system into a

00:11:53.880 non-transparent system and get good get a good result for the transparent one the non-transparent one

00:12:01.800 will do just fine right remember you plug your toaster into the 220 the toaster blows up

00:12:08.040 i don't know if this is true because i'm not an electrician but imagine if i were an electrician

00:12:14.360 and i knew what i was talking about right now wouldn't this be a cool story so just imagine this

00:12:19.720 is true you plug your 110 uh i have no idea if this happens you plug your 110 uh you couldn't do it

00:12:27.080 because the plugs would be different but imagine you did you plug it in your toaster blows up but the 220

00:12:32.680 outlet is fine the outlet is fine it's only the toaster that got injured so as long as we're a

00:12:38.600 transparent system we're vulnerable to plug into a non-transparent system and i think we should just

00:12:45.400 keep it simple say it's not about communism we don't care do we care do you really care if the if

00:12:52.680 the chinese government is communist no you only care how it affects you how it affects the world we don't

00:13:00.440 really care how other countries govern themselves i mean we'd like them not to be murdering their

00:13:05.320 citizens right but it is kind of up to them i mean you know there's not much we can do about it so 1.00

00:13:13.480 that's how i do it i would depersonalize it and say you can't plug a transparent system into a

00:13:18.840 non-transparent system and if you do only one of them can win only the non-transparent can win

00:13:25.240 because they can take from the transparent side but they give nothing they don't even tell you if they

00:13:29.240 have a pandemic coming um so that's that that's how i would decouple i would decouple entirely based

00:13:37.320 on transparency because it can't be argued there's no argument about it and you don't have to argue

00:13:44.360 whether a uh a communist system is better than a democratic system right because transparency isn't

00:13:53.560 really technically built into the communist system if you said china can you describe the communist

00:14:00.840 system would there be anything on their list that describes their government in their own opinion

00:14:08.040 that said oh yeah and we don't do transparency because communists don't do transparency that's

00:14:12.920 not actually part of the system so you can actually ignore communism in your ignore the entire system

00:14:20.440 of government and say we don't really care what kind of system you have we care about transparency

00:14:26.920 and if you don't have that it doesn't matter what else you're doing we don't care if you got a king

00:14:31.640 a dictator communist system we don't care if you're democratic you could be democrats if you have no

00:14:37.880 transparency i guess it doesn't work if you're democratic but if you have no transparency to us

00:14:44.440 doesn't work all right so china's going down there's no two ways about it let me say this is as clearly 0.99

00:14:52.840 as i can in five years china is going to be a bad place it's going to be a bad place because it's 0.99

00:14:59.800 it's going to be doing nothing but going downhill and i think that's guaranteed at this point

00:15:05.640 the u.s however in five years is going to be really really good shape i'll tell you where you want to

00:15:14.200 be the united states in five years why do you want to be in the united states in five years because it's

00:15:20.600 going to be an amazing place this year a little a little problematic all right um so last night on was

00:15:30.520 it uh uh live in show i think it was uh dr david cats the founding director of the yale griffin

00:15:37.720 prevention research center in connecticut he says what i've been saying so apparently i'm a qualified

00:15:45.880 virologist now because what i've been saying for months is now being said by an actual doctor

00:15:54.040 now it's not like other doctors haven't said this before but he's the clearest one

00:15:59.320 it goes like this he says if you um i want to get his exact words uh oh i didn't write down his exact

00:16:09.320 words the basic thing is he's saying that unless you have vaccines which we don't have or you have

00:16:16.520 herd immunity herd immunity which we don't have unless you have one of those two things there's

00:16:23.560 no such thing as getting back to normal and he suggests that the longer we're in isolation and

00:16:31.960 avoiding the virus we're just pushing the problem into the future now i suppose you could push it into

00:16:38.600 the future like theoretically until the vaccines here but we know that won't work because it's just

00:16:45.880 too long and if we if we we can't close the economy for a year or 18 months i think everybody agrees

00:16:52.840 agrees that's too long so we can't wait for a vaccine so let's take one of the two possibilities off the

00:16:58.840 table all right if vaccine doesn't help us soon enough what is the only other thing that could work

00:17:06.120 according to a doctor who is an expert on prevention i assume it's this kind of prevention and uh actually

00:17:15.400 i don't know what kind of prevention he's a doctor of so let's let me not assume i know his credentials

00:17:20.200 but he got on tv he's a doctor who got on tv that's worth something um

00:17:27.960 and uh so he's basically saying we should go ahead and get the herd immunity well he doesn't say

00:17:33.800 say this directly is that i'll just say it directly so i've said that we should rethink what our goal is

00:17:41.240 the goal should not be to avoid it the goal should be to get it in the most uh careful way

00:17:50.200 so in other words um if we're not already letting out the people who are unlikely to die from it so that

00:17:58.280 they can get some immunity we can't really ever get there there's no way to get from here to there

00:18:04.440 right so i'm very much on that team which is to say um i think we're on the right path really because

00:18:13.400 as we carefully reopen the government the infections should spread i think the only gaining factor should

00:18:19.240 be the icus and uh unfortunately the only thing that should slow us down

00:18:23.640 is the hospital resources and i think we're in much much better shape on hospital resources than we

00:18:30.840 thought we would be so that seems to be the only path and you know what's interesting about it is

00:18:38.040 that the public with all their protests and going to the beach and huddling and stuff

00:18:44.200 it seems to me um yeah actually no people didn't talk about convalescent blood serum he should have

00:18:53.800 said that that was the third option right because wouldn't convalescent blood serum also get you to

00:19:00.600 something like herd immunity if you did enough of it so um i think we should change our uh strategy i think

00:19:10.360 our strategy should get should be explicitly to get to herd immunity but to do it with the least

00:19:17.000 possible death so there's probably some strategy for doing that that involves infecting the young

00:19:24.440 keeping the old away for at least a month and then then hoping you've got immunity maybe you can test for

00:19:31.800 antibodies in a few months anyway i would like to see our goal explicitly changed to careful herd immunity

00:19:40.680 and or vaccinations because right now just hiding i feel like isn't getting as closer to the end

00:19:48.040 point as this doctor says is just pushing off the end point and i and if you push off the end point

00:19:54.120 you're also pushing off the point that your that your economy can recover it certainly makes point

00:20:00.040 makes sense to push off your your end point if the only thing you're worried about is dying

00:20:05.400 because it keeps your hospital resources as open as possible but if the economy is a variable too

00:20:12.360 i think you want to do it sooner i think you want to get the economy going get the infections going

00:20:19.160 you know the x number of people are going to die no matter what you do it's a it's an adult decision

00:20:25.240 and um and by the way i've heard a number of other people use

00:20:29.800 the phrase adult decision it's a really good one yeah in terms of persuasion if you get in an 0.99

00:20:37.000 argument with some idiot who's just being political and acting as though there's a choice where nobody 0.99

00:20:43.320 dies that's the child view i'll take the child view please where the economy is good and nobody gets 1.00

00:20:50.840 the virus i'll have that one please and you say well we don't have that choice

00:20:54.680 you know you gotta make tough choices somebody's gonna die because the economy went bad different

00:21:00.760 people other people will die if you do the other plan where it's the virus goes everywhere so you

00:21:07.000 just sort of have to pick and i'll say it again if if there's nobody in the country who wants to make

00:21:13.560 the choice i'll do it and not my job obviously nor do i think i'm especially qualified but if you need

00:21:21.960 an adult to make an adult decision and you don't want to make it yourself i'll do it i won't like

00:21:29.080 it i mean it would you know mess me up for the rest of my life wouldn't it i mean if you made a decision

00:21:34.440 that you knew killed people you'd never really be the same i don't think i don't think i would be the

00:21:40.200 same but if it's the only way to get from here to there the country requires somebody to make a decision

00:21:46.520 and it's going to have some kind of a you know a psychic load on that person for the rest of their life

00:21:51.960 well i'm pretty i'm pretty hardened against that thing i'm pretty mentally tough i'll do it if

00:21:57.640 you need an adult to tell you which way to go and people are going to die i'll do it if we don't

00:22:04.120 have any other adults who will do it i'll do it all right um that we won't come to that i'm just saying

00:22:10.200 that we should just stop talking with children about the impossible ways let's get a flying unicorn

00:22:17.400 and then the economy will be good and nobody will have the virus okay children you're done now

00:22:24.440 speaking of children uh so-called comedian patten oswalt i hate i hate patten oswalt by the way 0.94

00:22:32.440 i just hate him personally now he's come after me personally on uh on twitter he's just a horrible 0.76

00:22:38.680 little troll of a man and uh and he's yeah i think he went after a greg got felt this week and

00:22:45.400 uh so now people are going after him so here's what he said uh and of course i'm not i'm not the guy who

00:22:53.320 thinks you should get in trouble for jokes right so i'm not gonna say somebody should lose their job

00:23:00.360 or something because they made a stupid joke especially if you're a comedian i mean i just said 0.99

00:23:05.400 patten oswalt is a horrible human being as far as i can tell he's just a terrible person 0.99

00:23:10.360 based on his public public persona i don't know him personally um and 0.90

00:23:19.080 so here's what he said but even so he's even though he's a terrible person i don't think anybody

00:23:22.920 should lose their job for a bad joke but here's what he said and on twitter he said and frank spent

00:23:28.840 two years hiding in an attic so you know already he's on shaky ground if the first two words in

00:23:35.720 your tweet are and frank it almost doesn't matter what comes out in the rest of the tweet you're

00:23:41.000 gonna get some attention you start with and frank that's that's starting strong all right uh so he

00:23:48.120 says and frank spent two years hiding in an attic and and we've been home for just over a month with

00:23:54.040 netflix food delivery and video games and there are people risking viral death by storming state

00:23:59.720 capitol buildings and screaming open fudruckers he tweeted um now on a on a comedy level not bad

00:24:11.960 not bad i mean patten oswald is a famous comedian because he's good at comedy you can't take that away

00:24:19.000 from um and i also in terms of judging artists in general since i'm usually on the the receiving end

00:24:28.280 of the judgment i always like to say that if there are if an audience is paying for your work

00:24:35.000 it's not bad so anybody who says that a comedian is not funny at the same time that a comedian fills

00:24:41.880 entire stadiums of people buying a ticket and they know why they're there and they're happy when they

00:24:46.360 leave that's not a bad artist that's somebody who filled the room with people who wanted to pay for

00:24:51.800 it so patten oswald he fills rooms with people who want to pay for his content so he's good he's good

00:24:59.800 at what he does i can still hate him for just being a horrible person though so his tweet is funny but of 0.53

00:25:06.360 course uh he's he was blamed of being a little uh tone deaf not reading the room because it this does not

00:25:13.960 describe everybody in the country watching netflix with their food delivery and video games you do

00:25:21.720 know there are people who can't afford food delivery they're called most of the people in the united

00:25:28.040 states probably the majority wouldn't you say i i would guess over half of the country

00:25:34.680 wouldn't do take out even if they wanted it because it would cost a few bucks extra

00:25:39.240 i think at least half the country doesn't do take out orders or delivery even if it's not a

00:25:48.200 coronavirus it's got to be half more 75 it might be 75 of the country has never done

00:25:58.840 delivery of groceries because they can't afford it wouldn't you say maybe 75 i'm just guessing

00:26:05.800 it's at least 50 percent have never had food delivered to their house because you wouldn't

00:26:10.120 pay extra for it yeah somebody's saying three quarters i think it might be 75 it could be higher

00:26:15.480 it could be 80 of the i don't know wouldn't be surprised so patten definitely wasn't reading the

00:26:24.360 the tone of the country there here's a horrible story that i'm only going to tell you

00:26:29.640 because of the way i feel about it i want to see if you've gotten to this point too

00:26:38.120 um this is a terrible story you're not going to like me more after i say this so let me just warn

00:26:44.200 you i'm going to reveal a little bit too much about my inner thoughts and i really shouldn't do this but

00:26:49.720 i feel like it anyway it's like you ever do something that you know you shouldn't do and you

00:26:54.200 know you're going to do it anyway and even when you know you shouldn't do it you say i know i shouldn't

00:26:58.920 do this now watch me do it i don't know why i'm doing this because i just said i know i shouldn't

00:27:02.600 do this well i'm going to do this right now there's a california mayor um um who got in trouble for

00:27:12.120 doing some public presentation where he showed a ku klux klan photo and compared it to trump supporters

00:27:19.400 so so this is a mayor of auburn california and he had just recently on social media posted a meme

00:27:29.640 comparing trump supporters to the kkk well he died in a small plane crash yesterday and i thought to

00:27:40.120 myself i don't have empathy i have i have lots of empathy for his family right so to his family of

00:27:49.080 course of course 100 empathy nothing else would be even human but i honestly this is the part i

00:27:57.800 don't want to admit in public but i'm going to do it anyway if somebody who is an elected official

00:28:05.320 has put me into a category because i'm a trump supporter not a conservative not a republican but

00:28:12.520 definitely a trump supporter he puts me in the category with the kkk in public and that he dies 0.87

00:28:21.960 i don't fucking care sorry didn't mean to swear i actually don't care i do care about his family 0.89

00:28:29.160 i mean genuinely you don't want anybody to die if they've had loved ones etc and that part is a tragedy 0.97

00:28:35.160 but let me say it as clearly as i can if you're an elected official and you've compared some part of the

00:28:42.040 american public who just want you know freedom and a constitution and people follow the laws and

00:28:49.640 don't raise my taxes too much if you're calling them the kkk in public and you're an elected official 0.97

00:28:56.680 and yeah maybe sure he was joking right sure he was joking not really i mean he was joking in the sense

00:29:04.440 he didn't literally mean the kkk but he meant to compare them and i gotta say i don't have any empathy

00:29:11.080 for him he died in a terrible accident and i actually just don't care i think he deserved it

00:29:19.720 it deserves a tough word nobody should ever say anybody deserves that so i'll take back deserved

00:29:26.200 i will say that he um he abdicated his right to empathy let's say that nobody deserves it so nobody

00:29:36.280 deserves it i want to be as clear as i can nobody deserves to die in a bad accident but you could

00:29:42.360 certainly abdicate your right to empathy and i think he did that's all i'm saying um

00:29:54.760 i like so there's a former nasa scientist who is on fox news piece who is talking about this thing

00:30:02.680 called uh far uv light and his take on it was really really good and i don't know i've said

00:30:11.400 before that uh engineers are going to save the world just over and over again scientists but also

00:30:18.760 engineers and this is this is a good example so the scientists and this guy's a scientist former nasa

00:30:24.760 scientist was saying that the special kind of uv light it's not the normal kind it's a special range

00:30:30.840 far uv whatever that is we know that it kills the virus and we've known that for a while in fact

00:30:36.200 there are industrial devices with this light that actually do that right now they work in hospitals

00:30:42.040 they they kill the virus and what the uh scientist was saying was essentially an engineering solution

00:30:49.720 so it's one thing to invent things but they have to actually be spread into the public and

00:30:55.400 implement it and that's where the engineers come in and so the scientist was saying that instead of

00:31:01.320 using these devices to uh let's say decontaminate something you know is to get you know is contaminated

00:31:09.640 which is the normal way your brain works so your brain says oh wait there's this light

00:31:15.720 and you know it kills the virus so we'll use this in all the places that there's a virus like if

00:31:20.680 i have a mask i wanted to camp decontaminate it maybe i'd put that in there you know if i had

00:31:27.240 something specific that was contaminated i'd put that light there and then the but then the scientist

00:31:33.640 gives this twist on it and it completely changes what i thought of this idea and he put an engineering

00:31:40.680 spin on it and he said you don't want to use it to kill the virus where you know there's a virus

00:31:47.000 you just want to put them everywhere because apparently you could even put one in the you

00:31:51.160 know attach one to the dashboard of your car or you know up to the hang one from the uh the rear view

00:31:56.600 light it would just be a little unit and all day long you know or at least when you turned it on it

00:32:03.400 would just shoot some uv light into the environment it would be killing the virus if it were in your car

00:32:09.000 so without even knowing if your car would ever be infected you put this little device there

00:32:13.480 during the day periodically it just shoots out some far uv lights and if anybody had some and if

00:32:20.920 they touched your car on the inside it would kill it now he's saying you could put it in you know

00:32:26.200 doorways you could build a doorway so that if you walk through it the uv light would kill some stuff

00:32:32.760 that was on your body maybe you could put you could build it into the ceiling lights and they actually

00:32:37.800 showed a prototype it was actually a ceiling light that during the day just shoots uv light out in

00:32:43.800 addition to the regular room light so if the regular room light is on somebody says i already did this

00:32:50.440 interesting so if the regular room light is on you can't even see the uv light so it could just be on

00:32:55.640 during the day killing viruses in your environment and you never know and to me that seems like a really

00:33:03.480 scalable solution it doesn't look like it's necessarily too scalable in the next 12 months

00:33:10.520 but if we're talking about the future of humanity and and i think that's what the nasa scientist is

00:33:15.960 talking about because we've got pandemic after pandemic after pandemic right now to the extent that

00:33:21.000 they're all viruses they probably are all susceptible to the same kind of treatment yeah airplanes airplanes

00:33:27.560 would be the obvious one where you do want to put this so you could easily imagine and um let me ask

00:33:33.640 you a question how much do you think it costs if you were to make a consumer product that was handheld

00:33:40.760 or you know ceiling mounted or maybe it's just a light bulb i mean it could be just a light bulb right

00:33:46.680 but what would it cost per room or per car i suppose what would it cost if you got your production down

00:33:54.760 per unit and i'm thinking i'll bet you could get one of those devices below 20 pretty quickly

00:34:01.720 for let's say a small space like a bedroom or something bathroom maybe um i'll bet you could get

00:34:07.720 your whole house done for uh under a thousand dollars if you got the good stuff and maybe under 300

00:34:16.200 if if you went cheap maybe your car unit would be you know 50 bucks sits up there and you just change

00:34:22.920 the batteries now and then something like that somebody says 5g will kill them wouldn't that be 0.58

00:34:29.720 great imagine waking up tomorrow and finding out that we killed the coronavirus by just you know

00:34:35.880 cranking up all the 5g cell towers for a few minutes just turn them up for a few minutes we killed all

00:34:41.000 the virus i don't think that'll happen all right uh so that's one of the more uh hopeful things i've heard

00:34:49.080 because it does feel like even if we beat the coronavirus it's just going to be one virus

00:34:53.480 every x years killing our economy so it would be good to have some kind of permanent way to suppress it

00:35:03.720 let's talk about that skate park yeah cruise ships or another another great one somebody says they

00:35:12.360 have them on amazon is that right i don't know i'm not sure i would i don't think i would trust and

00:35:20.760 uh anything on amazon during the uh coronavirus because a lot there's a lot of uh scams

00:35:27.720 so let me just check somebody said it's oh let me talk i'm gonna talk about the systems in a minute

00:35:34.840 so that would be far uv light for uv let's see and the answer is oh yeah germicidal lamps so for 114

00:35:51.240 you could buy a pack of 60 watt light bulbs that are allegedly germicidal lamps but here's my warning

00:36:00.040 to you oh yeah there's a whole bunch of light bulbs i'll be darn sanitizing light bulbs um they all say

00:36:07.800 uv not far uv so here's what i would caution you uh oh there's one that you stick your hand into

00:36:19.720 interesting so yeah there's all kinds of products in that category but they don't use the word far

00:36:26.440 and here's the thing i would worry about it's very likely that there's a specific kind of uv the

00:36:32.680 far uv whatever that is i know that works better than other uv things um and so i'm thinking

00:36:41.240 that the regular uv might be a little bit useful and the far uv might be very useful so i would be

00:36:49.400 cautious anything you buy during the coronavirus because it's probably as many scams as there are

00:36:55.240 real products i don't know how you can tell somebody says they're made in china i'll bet they are

00:37:03.320 what would happen if you found out that the reason china got it under control was they're using far 0.96

00:37:07.560 uv in their light bulbs and they didn't tell us uh somebody says 5g could be the problem not the cure

00:37:15.000 yeah maybe uh somebody says you're an led expert electrical engineer well good there might have been more

00:37:23.240 to that yeah there's some youtubes on this people are sending me urls i see it's not a novel approach

00:37:30.360 it's been out there yeah that's what i said i said it's been out there forever it's a common approach

00:37:35.160 but what was different is how to engineer it into everything to me that was the breakthrough the

00:37:40.280 breakthrough is not that the uv light kills the virus uh the problem is that uh it's not in the

00:37:48.440 places it needs to and apparently it could be apparently it could be there's no difference

00:37:54.120 or it could be um worried about our own immune system you know what would be interesting i wonder

00:38:04.040 if you could test our immune systems before and after the coronavirus are you are you curious about

00:38:10.120 that because you know as i've told you many times i think many of you are doing the same thing

00:38:15.640 i am consciously working on my immune system so it almost every decision i make during the day

00:38:23.720 is directly or indirectly related to my immune system because at the moment it's my highest priority

00:38:29.240 because i figure eventually i'm going to get exposed to the virus sooner or later and i want to be in

00:38:34.200 good shape so for example are there are there so many people who are doing something similar

00:38:40.360 and it could be you know just work was more stressful than staying home for a lot of people

00:38:46.040 as long as you're still getting a paycheck staying home is probably a little less

00:38:50.520 tense than going to work for a lot of people maybe the reverse for some of us too anyway the question is

00:38:56.520 if you could measure our immune if there's a way to do that directly our immunity before and after

00:39:03.160 coronavirus shutdown would it be higher or lower i'm pretty sure mine would be higher

00:39:08.680 higher if assuming that i can actually boost my immunity by lifestyle and in the you know in a few

00:39:15.560 months and i think you can i don't you know i'd love to get an opinion if there's a medical doctor here

00:39:21.800 who knows this how much can you boost your immunity through lifestyle uh let's say in a month

00:39:28.920 you know can you make an appreciable difference in your overall body's immunity in a month or or is it

00:39:38.760 a case of the average person with good immunity has good days and bad days based on what they did that

00:39:45.240 day in other words if you didn't get any sleep that day is your immunity lower if you're more tense that

00:39:51.240 day if you uh i don't know if you if you over exercise and warrior yourself out so that's my

00:40:00.120 question and the reason i'm asking this is it's entirely possible i'll just throw this out as the

00:40:05.560 most ridiculous optimistic statement anybody ever said okay if the problem with this virus is that it

00:40:13.720 kills more well it seems to be extra deadly uh at least in quantity if not in ratio meaning 0.93

00:40:21.160 that it might not be killing such a high ratio of people who get it but there are lots of them

00:40:27.320 because it's it's a pretty viral thing so if there are lots of them and you know it's deadly what

00:40:34.920 would happen if our immunity went up 20 percent let's say if you couldn't measure such a thing and then we

00:40:41.240 were released back into the wild to get some herd immunity would would boosting your immunity by 20

00:40:47.640 percent make a huge difference in the mortality rate and in the way 0.89

00:40:53.560 um somebody says i was just looking at the comments because this is funny uh so is it steve says damn i was 0.59

00:41:01.640 waiting for a monday uh call and it's not monday welcome to the club no idea what day it is most of 0.85

00:41:08.760 the time no idea in fact it's worse for me you think it's bad for you you don't know what day it is

00:41:16.680 i don't know what time of the day it is because i i put my blackout curtains down when i do these

00:41:23.480 periscopes so when the curtains are down it could be any any time of day i don't know what it is outside

00:41:30.360 because i do the periscope at the same time of the day in the a.m as the p.m so my local time is 7 a.m

00:41:38.200 and then again at 7 p.m i have this weird experience like last night where you know i do my periscope i

00:41:45.560 was probably in bed by 9 30 ish and and then i wake up i slept a little late today and i'm just doing it

00:41:55.160 again so i've got this groundhog day thing where i do this periscope i go to sleep and then i do the

00:42:00.200 periscope and then i do some things and then i do a periscope and i have to tell you on several

00:42:06.120 occasions i couldn't remember if it was morning or night i actually couldn't tell i was sitting there

00:42:13.720 thinking i know i've got to do a periscope but is this the morning or is this the night and a few

00:42:23.720 times i've had to actually had to uh once i had to look outside just to tell to figure out if it was

00:42:29.720 morning or night so that's bad all right let's talk about this uh skate park this is one of those

00:42:37.960 stories people like to talk about because you understand it there's there's nothing to it you

00:42:41.960 don't understand so there's some skate park i think it was in southern california where they

00:42:47.160 filled it in with sand so that people wouldn't use it in violation of the uh of the ban on getting

00:42:53.720 together and a lot of people said that's outrageous it's outrageous except probably not i don't think

00:43:01.320 it was outrageous if you wanted to keep people from using it and you didn't want to put a staff

00:43:07.240 there 100 of the time and the signs didn't work and you knew that people would be you know congregating

00:43:14.360 too close well fill it with sand you can always take it out so i know people are outraged because

00:43:23.320 somebody found a clever solution to these things just fill it with sand i don't know you could argue

00:43:29.560 that skateboarders don't get that close to each other but in my experience i've actually spent quite

00:43:34.680 a bit of time at skate parks how many of you have spent time in skate parks because i have i spent a lot

00:43:43.480 of time at uh skateboarding parks in my local town not skateboarding but watching my stepson at the time

00:43:51.640 and uh they can get pretty busy there's a lot of a lot of social interaction there so i would not

00:44:01.720 disagree with them acting creatively and making that skate park unavailable all right anybody have any uh

00:44:09.400 other questions sleep tips um i will give you some more sleep tips tonight uh

00:44:21.960 because i think you should look at sleep as a skill

00:44:25.800 i was in venice california is the skate park san clementi some people saying all right

00:44:31.800 yeah they tried caution tape first you can't really get teenage boys and they're mostly boys

00:44:40.200 you really can't get them to obey rules so maybe fill it in with sand um

00:44:49.400 yeah i don't even think a fence would stop them you know the thing with the sand is that

00:44:53.640 it's temporary it's not that hard to take the sand out of it it's not going to hurt anything

00:44:57.800 harder to harder to take it down than put it in yeah it'll be harder but it's not that big a deal

00:45:05.400 you got brooms sweep it um is there any other uh thing you would like from me

00:45:15.480 in subsequent periscopes that would be in the form of a lesson something something you think i know how to

00:45:23.080 do that you would like me to teach you how to do among the possibilities are systems for fitness

00:45:29.960 systems for diet those of you who are new to me are wondering um what are you talking about i thought

00:45:37.000 you were a cartoonist why would you have a system for diet and a system for fitness and if you did

00:45:44.280 why would i care about it because after all you're a cartoonist and the answer is

00:45:48.360 uh what i teach is systems that would work in any domain so it's not a specific system it's just how

00:45:55.480 to build a system for fitness and how to design a system for that sort of thing so i was probably

00:46:01.640 going to be doing that stuff pretty soon and um yeah walking helps a lot

00:46:07.320 uh all right just looking at your comments before i sign off um

00:46:16.440 yeah the counting to 20 is an amazing technique and i'll reinforce that because the more it's

00:46:22.440 reinforced the more powerful it is um

00:46:27.320 the new biden ad yeah so the biden ad tries to make it look like trump did everything wrong in

00:46:38.040 the pandemic and everything wrong dealing with china and it it makes china the the enemy 1.00

00:46:46.280 and then it tries to say that trump did a bad job dealing with the enemy of china and as tim pool pointed

00:46:54.360 out in a tweet this morning i don't think they thought this through

00:46:59.960 because if joe biden succeeds in making it look like china is the big old enemy who are you going

00:47:07.720 to vote for i mean seriously if if the only thing you got out of that ad is that china is really

00:47:14.520 dangerous and we better be tough with them who are you going to vote for you're not going to vote

00:47:19.480 for biden if you if you think that biden is accurate and saying that china is a big old problem

00:47:26.520 i mean it's like it's almost like the mole came up with that you know the mole is my uh theoretical

00:47:32.200 person who gives bad advice to the other side or assistant to learn how to draw sure i could i could

00:47:38.600 teach you that uh pitching ideas for projects that's a good one i'm not sure i'm the best at pitching

00:47:47.560 ideas for projects but i could probably get you there yeah i could probably get you into the top 20

00:47:52.680 percent pretty easily uh the new jersey cop drones well i think we have to get used to drones being

00:48:02.120 everywhere i think drones will be everywhere i think that they're going to have facial recognition

00:48:07.320 they're going to be able to sense things in the environment um they might even be able to

00:48:13.480 uh at some point you're going to have military drones in the air you're going to have armed drones in

00:48:20.520 the air sooner or later um somebody says biden is less dangerously creepy now that he has early onset dementia

00:48:32.600 lady gaga's biden's visiting angel don't you wonder what uh you know in in their private moments do you

00:48:44.440 ever wonder if the biden supporters like uh elissa milano and lady gaga and stuff don't you wonder what

00:48:51.160 they say in their private moments because privately don't you think they say yeah we know he's lost it but

00:48:58.680 we just we can't have another you know we can't have the orange monster elected again don't you think 0.98

00:49:04.600 privately they know that biden's already done at least in terms of mentally

00:49:12.840 oh a drawing for kids yeah i could give you a a drawing lesson for kids okay i'll do that i'll make

00:49:19.800 that one of my uh to do's all right that's all i got for today and i'll talk to you tonight you know when

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - April 19, 2020

Episode 923 Scott Adams： #Coronavirus, The Simulation and Next Level Human Awareness

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