Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 935 Scott Adams： Talking Questions About Clorox and Lysol

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00:00:54.000 Mmm. Delicious. Well, let's talk about all the things. I'll tell you, I could not be more fascinated by

00:01:11.000 by this whole Clorox Lysol fake news thing. It's really, it's, it's a jaw dropper because

00:01:20.000 apparently Pierce, Pierce Morgan actually believes that the president was wondering aloud. I've been

00:01:29.000 corrected to not say that people think the president recommended it, but rather to use a more accurate

00:01:35.000 phrase that he wondered aloud about, uh, according to the gullible people, he wondered aloud about

00:01:44.000 injecting Clorox and Lysol into your body to fight coronavirus, which is not a thing. If anybody's

00:01:51.000 listening, it's not a thing. It will probably kill you. Almost certainly kill you. So don't do that.

00:01:57.000 It's also the reason that anybody with a half functioning brain should have known that whatever

00:02:06.000 he was saying, which was admittedly unclear, your, your sense of, uh, of how the world works should

00:02:16.000 have led you to wonder, Hey, I wonder if I'm hearing this correctly. Maybe the context is different than

00:02:21.000 what I think. And so I got into a little back and forth just before I got on with David Packman.

00:02:30.000 You may know him as a, uh, anti-Trumper, but the weird thing is he's actually reasonably smart.

00:02:39.000 And he thinks that the president was wondering aloud his, his phrase, he believes the president was

00:02:47.000 wondering aloud about injecting Clorox and Lysol into bodies. How do you, how could you be smart and think

00:02:54.000 that? How can you even, like, how could you have an IQ over a hundred and think the president said that?

00:03:03.000 Well, the answer is that the left still believe the news. Did you see the, uh, there was some survey,

00:03:10.000 it might've been Rasmussen or somebody was saying that, uh, Democrats still believe the news, that the news is,

00:03:16.000 the news is, is accurate. Not all of them, of course, but, and I thought that we left that place a long time ago.

00:03:25.000 I thought nobody thought that the news was, was legitimate. Now, the best thing that the news does

00:03:33.000 is that they, they create a problem and then they assign the problem and blame Trump.

00:03:38.000 Now Trump created the opportunity for a problem by communicating on clearly. And he probably should

00:03:46.000 not have been talking about medical stuff, even in the hypothetical. I think we'd all agree on that.

00:03:51.000 But suppose, suppose the public had simply watched what he said, and then there were no pundits, no news

00:04:01.000 news people to tell people what to think about it. I don't think anybody would have watched that

00:04:06.000 and said, I'm going to go try mainlining Clorox. I don't think they would have. I think they would

00:04:12.000 have just said, eh, I don't know what he's talking about, but obviously he doesn't mean, you know,

00:04:17.000 I don't know what he's talking about, but the one thing that's obvious, he's not talking about

00:04:22.000 putting bleach and isopropyl alcohol into your body on your own. He's definitely not saying that.

00:04:30.000 But of course the news reported that he was, he was saying that. And if the news says that he's

00:04:36.000 wondering aloud about doing this ridiculous thing, who believes it? Well, it turns out that almost

00:04:44.000 nobody on the right believes it except Pierce Morgan. Pierce Morgan actually believed this happened.

00:04:51.000 I mean, you could look at the transcript and then you can, you know, hear later, he did a bad job

00:04:57.000 of explaining it at the time. But once you hear about the UV light being used as a disinfectant and

00:05:03.000 it is injected into the body, maybe not the right word, but it's injected down your trachea.

00:05:10.000 Once you know the context, it's obvious that's what he was talking about. How could you still cling to the

00:05:16.000 fact that you think he was wondering about injecting bleach and isopropyl alcohol? Amazing.

00:05:25.000 So there's a fairly predictable thing that happens when you get into a conversation with people about this,

00:05:34.000 which is, it goes like this and it happened with Pacman. So Pacman, I guess, had been watching me debate

00:05:44.000 this online and he tweets this. He says, Scott, I would take the loss on this one and move on.

00:05:51.000 It's getting cringy. Really? I don't know how much harder I could win. Is it cringy that I'm calling out other people

00:06:04.000 for hallucinating something that didn't happen? Is that cringy? So I asked him if he would say directly

00:06:14.000 that he believes the president was recommending Clorox and isopropyl shots. Because I asked him, would you say that in public?

00:06:26.000 Would you say directly, I watched the president and it seemed to me that he was recommending Clorox and Lysol shots?

00:06:37.000 And how did David Pacman respond? He argued with the recommending part. That's not really the active part of the problem here.

00:06:50.000 So he said, no, not recommending, that he wondered aloud, which of course would be bad enough.

00:06:57.000 Now I accept wondering aloud as a better description. I feel that that would be fair to say.

00:07:03.000 Wondering aloud would be better than recommending in terms of describing it.

00:07:10.000 But instead of arguing the point, which is that the president was or was not talking about bleach and isopropyl going into your body,

00:07:20.000 Pacman retreats to arguing about whether it was recommended or whether he was wondering aloud.

00:07:28.000 Do you see what's happening? You wouldn't be arguing about the word recommended or versus wondering aloud.

00:07:35.000 You wouldn't argue that unless you already knew that you had lost the debate on whether it happened.

00:07:43.000 So whether you describe it as recommending it or wondering aloud, it doesn't matter because it literally never happened.

00:07:51.000 Neither of those things happened.

00:07:53.000 Neither of those things happened. There was nothing that happened.

00:07:55.000 So how you describe the thing that didn't happen is somewhat irrelevant.

00:08:00.000 So anyway, then he decided that once he had completely lost the debate in public,

00:08:08.000 he did what everybody does when cognitive dissonance sets in.

00:08:13.000 He attacked the messenger and decided that he should not talk to me because I'm a bad faith actor.

00:08:22.000 That didn't go well. So if you want to see my curse-laden response to him, you can see that on the tweet.

00:08:35.000 I won't say it out loud. Here's the thing that people say when they get caught believing some fake news.

00:08:44.000 And how many times have you heard this?

00:08:47.000 But the president literally said that. You heard it about the fine people hoax.

00:08:53.000 He literally said it. I heard it. He literally said it.

00:08:57.000 If somebody is defending their point of view by saying that somebody literally said something, that means they don't understand how words work.

00:09:08.000 Because words don't work literally.

00:09:12.000 That's not how words work. I mean, unless it's a legal contract, I suppose.

00:09:18.000 When people talk, their words are not to be taken literally.

00:09:23.000 If you don't understand that words are not meant literally typically, it's the normal way we talk, you don't really understand anything.

00:09:32.000 That's pretty basic, right?

00:09:34.000 If I say, man, politics are killing me today.

00:09:40.000 Did I literally say that politics are literally killing me?

00:09:45.000 Or is it obvious in context? I don't literally mean it's killing me.

00:09:51.000 So words are not to be taken literally.

00:09:54.000 And anybody who imagines that is not working at a very high level.

00:10:00.000 Now, at the same time that CNN is reporting that the president wondered aloud about, depending on who's talking about, either drinking bleach or injecting it,

00:10:13.000 of course, is not really being covered as a major story on Fox.

00:10:17.000 They talk about it as a story, but it's just sort of a major, you know, sort of, we talked about it and now we'll move on.

00:10:24.000 But on CNN, it's all they have.

00:10:26.000 It's like their, it's like their main thing.

00:10:28.000 But on Fox, they're talking about how CNN is, CNN is not covering the other story, which is that Biden's accuser, Tara Reid, the one who said that Biden metooed her back in the 90s.

00:10:43.000 Apparently, there was some evidence or had been suggested that Tara Reid's mother had once called Larry King on the air and mentioned that her daughter, who was not named in the call, had some issues at work with a powerful person.

00:11:02.000 And believe it or not, that transcript was found after all these years.

00:11:08.000 And sure enough, Larry King took a call at about that time from a woman who said that her daughter was having some problems with getting metooed, not using those words, by somebody powerful.

00:11:20.000 So, it's looking like the Tara Reid claim against Biden is kind of picking up strength, if you know what I mean.

00:11:29.000 And it's pretty amazing that it's not being covered on CNN.

00:11:32.000 It's amazing, really.

00:11:35.000 How come we're not pardoning Flynn and Stone already?

00:11:38.000 Why is that taking so long?

00:11:40.000 You know that's going to happen, right?

00:11:42.000 I mean, it has to happen.

00:11:44.000 I don't know if it's commute or pardon or what the right words are, but I think those guys are not going to go to jail or at least get out of jail.

00:11:56.000 Is Kim Jong-un dead?

00:12:01.000 So, that's the big story.

00:12:03.000 Is he?

00:12:08.000 Now, the thing that's fascinating about North Korea is that North Korea can go a week with the whole world wondering if their leader is dead, and they're still not willing to confirm or deny it.

00:12:22.000 Can you imagine any other country in the world in which there's a rumor about your leader is dead, and you don't immediately go on television and say, oh, no, he's fine.

00:12:33.000 Here he is.

00:12:34.000 Or to go on television and say, yeah, you know, you got us.

00:12:37.000 He's dead.

00:12:38.000 We're doing the best we can.

00:12:40.000 Well, what's up with that?

00:12:41.000 Why does North Korea not even admit it?

00:12:44.000 It could be that they don't want civil unrest in North Korea, but allegedly China is sending some doctors over there, but why would they send doctors if he's already dead, which would suggest he's in some kind of a vegetative coma situation or something.

00:13:03.000 And they're thinking that Kim Jong-un's sister might be the one to take over.

00:13:08.000 Now, here are the things I wonder.

00:13:10.000 Question number one, is North Korea the kind of culture where a woman can be their leader? 0.97

00:13:17.000 I don't know the answer to that question.

00:13:19.000 Is North Korea a place where a woman can just become leader and everybody just says, okay, now our leader is a woman? 0.95

00:13:28.000 Or is there a place where they would say, what, a woman for a leader? 0.95

00:13:33.000 We can't do that.

00:13:34.000 So I'd like to get some visibility on that question.

00:13:38.000 The other thing I wonder is, does the sister have blood on her hands?

00:13:43.000 Does anybody know?

00:13:44.000 Oh, acquittals is the word I should have used about Flynn and Stone, I guess.

00:13:51.000 Is this the second hoax this year in the last 12 months that involved bleach?

00:14:04.000 Because you've got the Jussie Smollett thing, that involved bleach. 1.00

00:14:08.000 And now you've got this one.

00:14:11.000 It's like, why does bleach become two major fake news stories?

00:14:15.000 That's weird.

00:14:16.000 Anyway, so if Kim Jong-un's sister does not have blood on her hands, does that give us an opportunity?

00:14:22.000 And here's why I ask.

00:14:24.000 The hardest thing about being a brutal dictator is that you can't retire.

00:14:28.000 How would you retire?

00:14:30.000 If you're a brutal dictator, and even if you wanted your country to become a democratic country, you can't retire.

00:14:38.000 Because you've killed so many people to be a dictator that you're going to be jailed or killed or, you know, you're going to get the Qaddafi treatment. 0.97

00:14:47.000 So I've always thought there should be some way to remove a dictator without killing them so that they could say, oh, I'm just going to the island of retired dictators where I'll live like a god for the rest of my life.

00:15:03.000 Okay, that's better than being killed, I'll take it.

00:15:08.000 But in this case, if Kim Jong-un has health problems or he's dead, and his sister takes over, what if she doesn't have any blood on her hands?

00:15:18.000 Maybe she does. 0.87

00:15:20.000 So I guess that would be the first thing to find out.

00:15:22.000 But if she doesn't, and when I say doesn't, I mean if she's just not being directly blamed for having somebody killed.

00:15:31.000 You know, maybe you could stretch and say, well, she's part of the regime, so they all have blood on her hands.

00:15:35.000 But if she's not directly tied to her personally, doesn't that give her the opportunity to retire?

00:15:42.000 And by retire, I mean, could she not say, look, I'm going to do what's best for North Korea?

00:15:49.000 And that might mean some kind of a merger with South Korea, you know, maybe very slowly over a long period.

00:15:57.000 But I would like to retire from the dictator business.

00:16:00.000 I don't have any blood on my hands, so I could just retire and become an elite living in the country that would be much better because it combined with South Korea. 0.72

00:16:12.000 So I wouldn't rule out that the sister being in charge could be the key to unlocking the whole thing.

00:16:21.000 It seems unlikely.

00:16:23.000 I mean, if you had to guess what will happen, she probably would be, you know, battling for power. 0.99

00:16:29.000 You know, who knows how long that will take before somebody emerges who can consolidate power.

00:16:34.000 You know, and is the leader really in charge or is it going to be the military?

00:16:38.000 So there are a million things that could go wrong.

00:16:41.000 But there's at least one thing that could go right, which is if you shake the box, maybe you get a leader who just says, you know, I'm not really that warlike.

00:16:52.000 I wouldn't mind just working stuff out.

00:16:55.000 It's possible.

00:16:56.000 It's possible.

00:16:57.000 We could just work stuff out after this.

00:16:59.000 The FCC has recommended revoking four Chinese telecom companies' licenses.

00:17:11.000 And you know there's going to be more of that.

00:17:15.000 Somebody says, oh, please, she's feared.

00:17:20.000 Well, I would imagine she'd be feared, but there would have to be also a specific story of something that she did that wasn't tied to Kim Jong-un.

00:17:29.000 You know, just have an excuse.

00:17:31.000 I'm not saying that she's clean.

00:17:33.000 I'm saying that maybe you can make a story that she has, which would give you some new options.

00:17:39.000 I don't see anything that could change the fact that China is in a lot of trouble, meaning that I think the United States will be decoupling.

00:17:53.000 We're going to, I think we'll disconnect our internet from China. 0.99

00:17:57.000 I mean, at some point, I think we won't even be connected to their internet.

00:18:00.000 That's possible.

00:18:02.000 Maybe that's unlikely, but it's possible.

00:18:04.000 All right.

00:18:05.000 Kanye West is reportedly a billionaire, according to Forbes.

00:18:13.000 So, congratulations, Kanye.

00:18:15.000 Kanye says he has over $3 billion net worth, and Forbes says it was over $1 billion.

00:18:21.000 But in any case, he's a billionaire.

00:18:23.000 So, good job, Kanye, on being a billionaire.

00:18:26.000 And then there's also some news.

00:18:28.000 Of course, these are all anecdotal, and, you know, it's no more proven than hydroxychloroquine or remdesivir.

00:18:36.000 But there's an existing asthma drug, which apparently, or at least reportedly, could have some value for coronavirus patients with lung problems.

00:18:48.000 It's called Singulair, so Singulair and existing asthma medication.

00:18:55.000 So, that would be exciting.

00:18:57.000 So, there's some anecdotal reports that that might be kind of good.

00:19:00.000 All right.

00:19:01.000 I want to take questions from anybody who believes that the President was wondering aloud.

00:19:09.000 And I want to only do these questions to see if, maybe there's nobody who wants to argue this,

00:19:15.000 because I wouldn't, if I had that position, I wouldn't want to argue it in public.

00:19:22.000 But let's say there is.

00:19:24.000 So, I'm only going to look for people.

00:19:26.000 So, if you've gotten in line to ask me a question, please take yourself out of the queue,

00:19:34.000 unless you want to argue with me and take the side that Trump was wondering aloud about injecting Clorox and other disinfectants.

00:19:46.000 So, I'm only looking for that.

00:19:51.000 All right.

00:19:53.000 So, let's see who is on here.

00:19:58.000 All right.

00:20:00.000 So, I figure the first few people may not be wanting to argue that.

00:20:05.000 So, if I add you and you don't want to make that argument, I might cut it short.

00:20:10.000 But I'm not trying to be rude.

00:20:13.000 All right, guest.

00:20:18.000 Can you hear me, guest?

00:20:20.000 Hello, can you hear me?

00:20:25.000 Can you hear me?

00:20:26.000 Yes, I can hear you, Nikolai.

00:20:29.000 Do you have a…

00:20:31.000 You're up?

00:20:32.000 Yeah.

00:20:33.000 Is our connection good?

00:20:34.000 Say something else.

00:20:35.000 Yes, I think I can hear you.

00:20:38.000 Okay.

00:20:39.000 Now, are you here to talk about the Clorox and Lysol?

00:20:43.000 Yes, in a way.

00:20:44.000 I watched the conference live.

00:20:46.000 And in the beginning, of course, I thought that he made a reference to disinfectant somehow.

00:20:58.000 I didn't…

00:20:59.000 He did make a reference to two different kinds of disinfectants.

00:21:04.000 Go ahead.

00:21:05.000 And in the end, watching the journalist not having any reaction on the spot.

00:21:16.000 And then there was a question later on from a journalist.

00:21:21.000 I could tell that maybe somebody from the studio was telling him, please go ahead, ask a question.

00:21:30.000 Yeah, you know…

00:21:31.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:21:33.000 I do think that they're connected, at least by text, to some kind of producers or whatever,

00:21:38.000 who tell them what questions to ask.

00:21:40.000 But clearly, this was manufactured news.

00:21:45.000 But you don't believe that he was actually wondering aloud about using Clorox inside a person, right?

00:21:56.000 I don't believe that works.

00:21:59.000 Yeah.

00:22:00.000 Yeah.

00:22:01.000 But…

00:22:02.000 We've got a little bit of a hearing problem here, so I'm going to disconnect that call.

00:22:06.000 Nothing personal.

00:22:07.000 All right.

00:22:08.000 Let's see if Susan is here to debate. 0.58

00:22:13.000 Susan, can you hear me?

00:22:18.000 Susan?

00:22:19.000 Hey.

00:22:20.000 Susan, are you…

00:22:23.000 Susan, are you…

00:22:24.000 Are you…

00:22:25.000 Are you here to talk about Clorox and Lysol?

00:22:28.000 Yeah.

00:22:29.000 Um…

00:22:30.000 This one for me, I feel like it really…

00:22:33.000 It's the last straw when it comes to the media and how destructive they can be in this

00:22:39.000 kind of situation.

00:22:40.000 Trump, as I've watched him, I see that he…

00:22:46.000 This stream of consciousness kind of conversation out loud.

00:22:50.000 He has lots of good ideas, but anytime someone does that, there's a lot of bad ideas, you

00:22:55.000 know, that sort of come out of your mouth, realize what you said.

00:22:58.000 Right.

00:22:59.000 But having said that, there are situations where UV light is used medically as a disinfectant,

00:23:08.000 not internally at this point, but there are respiratory aerosol medications that are used.

00:23:16.000 Yes.

00:23:17.000 And for instance, in the case of RSV, respiratory syncytial virus.

00:23:21.000 Mm-hmm.

00:23:22.000 So, now not Clorox and not Lysol.

00:23:25.000 Right.

00:23:26.000 But I see him free associating, gee, could we come up with a drug that could get, you know,

00:23:31.000 right into the lungs and…

00:23:33.000 Are you aware that they've already invented and are testing UV light that literally is

00:23:43.000 stuck down your trachea as part of like a ventilator intubation?

00:23:48.000 And so they are actually…

00:23:50.000 It's patented already, and they're going to test it if they're not already.

00:23:54.000 So, they're already talking about using light internally in your, at least your trachea,

00:23:59.000 if not your lungs, and disinfecting that way.

00:24:03.000 Yeah.

00:24:04.000 Actually, I think that's a great idea.

00:24:05.000 Because, you know, then you don't have a chemical that your liver has to detoxify.

00:24:09.000 Right.

00:24:10.000 So, you know, I really think enough is enough.

00:24:13.000 And I think we all know and trust that Trump is smart enough not to tell anybody to mainline

00:24:18.000 Lysol and Clorox.

00:24:19.000 So, you know, I'm just done with all of this destructive kind of wasted time with these

00:24:25.000 kind of stories.

00:24:26.000 And I think it's counterproductive.

00:24:28.000 So…

00:24:29.000 Yeah.

00:24:30.000 I agree.

00:24:31.000 All right.

00:24:32.000 Thank you for the call.

00:24:33.000 Thanks.

00:24:34.000 All right.

00:24:35.000 I'll bet nobody is going to want to actually debate me on this in public.

00:24:40.000 But I might get lucky.

00:24:44.000 Because I'm kind of curious how somebody will respond once they hear the actual context.

00:24:52.000 Hello, caller.

00:24:53.000 Can you hear me?

00:24:55.000 Can you hear me?

00:24:57.000 Hi, Scott.

00:24:58.000 How are you doing?

00:24:59.000 I'm good.

00:25:00.000 How are you?

00:25:01.000 Yeah, I'm not too bad.

00:25:02.000 I'm calling you here from Ireland and County Cork.

00:25:05.000 Okay.

00:25:06.000 The Republic of Ireland.

00:25:08.000 Now, did you believe the president was wondering aloud about putting Clorox and Lysol inside

00:25:15.000 the bodies?

00:25:16.000 Well, I was just watching a video of Tim Poole.

00:25:21.000 And he says that Trump had been given advice about injecting or inhaling disinfectant into

00:25:33.000 the lungs.

00:25:34.000 He had been hearing that advice not long before the press conference.

00:25:41.000 Yeah.

00:25:42.000 There are a number of therapies in which some kind of a mist will be the right answer.

00:25:53.000 But there are things which you can inhale.

00:25:56.000 And in other contexts, they use them.

00:26:00.000 Now, the question of whether those would be called disinfectants or they would simply

00:26:05.000 have the effect of doing something good that lets your body get rid of the virus, I think

00:26:10.000 is sort of a technical question.

00:26:12.000 But certainly, light is a disinfectant.

00:26:15.000 And he did show that he knows that that's, you know, could be put in the body.

00:26:19.000 And if he was speaking more generally about something that could be put in the body to disinfect, you're

00:26:26.000 right.

00:26:27.000 And at worst, he was using a word in a non-specifically medical term because we don't know if those

00:26:33.000 things would be disinfectants or would they just be useful.

00:26:37.000 So, yeah, I mean, but it doesn't matter.

00:26:40.000 The only thing that matters is nobody believes he was talking about putting, you know, household

00:26:46.000 products down your body.

00:26:47.000 Yeah.

00:26:48.000 That would be ridiculous.

00:26:50.000 All right.

00:26:51.000 Yeah.

00:26:52.000 I think Tim Poole did a link to, you might visit his YouTube channel, he did a link to a

00:26:58.000 medical journal where they are, let's say, inhaling hydrogen chloroxide, which would be

00:27:05.000 similar to bleach.

00:27:07.000 Yeah.

00:27:08.000 Yes.

00:27:09.000 And I read that in some settings, that's a thing that already exists exactly like it.

00:27:16.000 Yeah.

00:27:17.000 Well, I think apparently, no, I can't say, but apparently Trump was listening to this

00:27:22.000 and the UV light treatment and that maybe he, you know, he did, he simplified it in his

00:27:29.000 own Trump way, which is fine.

00:27:31.000 And that he, you know, he might've got himself into trouble is what I, that's kind of the way

00:27:36.000 I look at it.

00:27:37.000 Yeah.

00:27:38.000 Yeah.

00:27:39.000 Certainly, certainly he should not have been speculating in that medical domain.

00:27:43.000 I mean, there's no way that could have gone well, but it is also true.

00:27:47.000 The weird thing is that he got in trouble for actually demonstrating in public that he

00:27:52.000 knows more than the public knows about the options.

00:27:56.000 Yes.

00:27:57.000 Yes.

00:27:58.000 Yeah.

00:27:59.000 Because everything he said was actually medically sound.

00:28:02.000 He just used lay person terms for him.

00:28:04.000 All right.

00:28:05.000 Yeah.

00:28:06.000 Thanks for the, thanks for the call.

00:28:07.000 Thanks, Scott.

00:28:08.000 Bye.

00:28:09.000 All right.

00:28:10.000 All right.

00:28:11.000 I'll bet I'll find nobody who's actually willing to debate me.

00:28:15.000 Let's see if there's anybody who looks like a, I'm going to see if I can find anybody 1.00

00:28:19.000 who looks like a Democrat at least.

00:28:21.000 Does anybody look like a Democrat?

00:28:23.000 All right.

00:28:24.000 I'm going to try this one.

00:28:25.000 This is just, this would be a lucky guess.

00:28:26.000 All right.

00:28:27.000 Blackard, can you hear me? 1.00

00:28:28.000 Can you hear me?

00:28:29.000 Hey, Scott.

00:28:30.000 Pleasure to meet you.

00:28:31.000 Hi.

00:28:32.000 Nice to meet you.

00:28:33.000 You're here to talk about Clorox and Lysol?

00:28:34.000 Yeah.

00:28:35.000 And I'm not a Democrat, but one of the things that concerned me was that recently I'm

00:28:52.000 was that recently, and I think it was yesterday, Trump was having a briefing in the Oval Office

00:29:01.000 and there was a reporter that asked him to clarify his comments about objections of disinfectants.

00:29:06.000 Right.

00:29:07.000 And Trump's response was that he was being sarcastic.

00:29:11.000 So I wonder if that makes this argument a little bit more difficult on his side.

00:29:17.000 Well, I've not met anybody on the left or the right who thought that was a true statement,

00:29:26.000 that he believed he was being sarcastic or that he was being sarcastic.

00:29:29.000 So given that nobody believes that's true, you'd have to assume that he was just trying

00:29:35.000 to make the question go away in his Trump-like way, which he succeeded in doing.

00:29:40.000 Because the last thing he wanted was to engage on the question.

00:29:44.000 Because anything he said would be the next news cycle about some other thing he said unclearly

00:29:50.000 about medical stuff.

00:29:52.000 So I think he probably, I got the feeling especially because he ended the news, the press conference

00:29:59.000 early without questions.

00:30:01.000 I got the feeling that he got the message that non-medical people talking about medical

00:30:08.000 stuff is never going to go well.

00:30:11.000 And I think, this is just a guess, I think he probably just looked at the odds and said,

00:30:16.000 okay, risk management.

00:30:18.000 If I do this again, there's no upside.

00:30:21.000 There's no upside.

00:30:22.000 But there's lots of downside because I could be taken out of context again.

00:30:26.000 So why did I just say it was sarcastic?

00:30:28.000 Nobody will believe me, but I'll just stick with that.

00:30:31.000 I'll just stick with it and I don't have to talk about it.

00:30:34.000 I said this last night on Periscope, it was the Rosie O'Donnell move in the first debate

00:30:41.000 when he was asked about his bad comments about women in general.

00:30:45.000 And instead of answering the question, he said only Rosie O'Donnell, which was a ridiculous

00:30:50.000 answer that nobody, not his supporters believe.

00:30:53.000 It just was completely non-believable.

00:30:56.000 But it was so interesting and weird that it made the real question go away.

00:31:01.000 He just took all the attention away.

00:31:03.000 So when he said it was sarcastic, I think everybody said, and my follow-up question is,

00:31:08.000 well, I don't even know what to do with that.

00:31:11.000 What do you do with that?

00:31:12.000 Because you know it's not true, but he's acting like it's true.

00:31:15.000 So you can't ask a follow-up question.

00:31:17.000 There's nothing to do.

00:31:18.000 Well, he's just going to say it was sarcastic again.

00:31:21.000 I have nothing else to do.

00:31:23.000 So I can't read his mind.

00:31:25.000 I think he just wanted the topic to go away.

00:31:28.000 And he succeeded in not getting any more quotes on medical topics.

00:31:33.000 So anyway, it was not his finest week.

00:31:37.000 But certainly the things he's being accused of are not true either.

00:31:42.000 All right.

00:31:43.000 Thanks for the call.

00:31:44.000 Thanks.

00:31:46.000 Come on.

00:31:47.000 We can get one person to argue this.

00:31:52.000 How about this person who is not fake news?

00:31:58.000 Hello, not fake news.

00:32:01.000 Are you there?

00:32:04.000 Sounds like you're cooking.

00:32:05.000 Are you cooking breakfast?

00:32:08.000 Yes, I am.

00:32:09.000 I hear bacon.

00:32:10.000 Is that bacon?

00:32:12.000 No, I'm just cooking.

00:32:17.000 All right.

00:32:18.000 Well, whatever you're cooking.

00:32:19.000 Did you want to talk about Clorox and Lysol?

00:32:24.000 Did I lose you?

00:32:25.000 I think you tried to mute your phone and lost me instead.

00:32:30.000 Let's try.

00:32:34.000 Let's try.

00:32:35.000 Man, I want somebody who's going to argue with me.

00:32:37.000 I really can't get anybody to argue with me today.

00:32:40.000 See, somebody who looks really like a Democrat.

00:32:46.000 Yeah, I don't know who looks like a Democrat,

00:32:48.000 but Frank doesn't have a profile picture.

00:32:51.000 So let's try Frank.

00:32:52.000 Let's try Frank.

00:32:55.000 Now, Frank, Frank, Frank is not going to work either.

00:33:00.000 Let's try this.

00:33:02.000 Let's try Benjamin.

00:33:08.000 Benjamin.

00:33:10.000 Benjamin.

00:33:12.000 And he goes away too.

00:33:13.000 So it looks like, I don't know if this is a technical problem or if everybody's getting shy.

00:33:20.000 Let's try Gabby.

00:33:23.000 Nope.

00:33:25.000 And she went away.

00:33:26.000 Let's try Mystic.

00:33:30.000 Mystic Deanna, are you there?

00:33:32.000 I'm good.

00:33:34.000 How are you?

00:33:35.000 Do you have a Lysol related Clorox question?

00:33:38.000 Yes.

00:33:40.000 And I think it was just something like an oversight, sarcasm kind of thing.

00:33:46.000 You know, I don't think he actually thinks that people should use that.

00:33:51.000 And I can't believe people take that so seriously.

00:33:55.000 Well, I'm trying to get anybody to say in public that they personally believe he said that.

00:34:04.000 Because if you really nail them down and say, okay, I know you're saying that you think other people will think he said that.

00:34:12.000 But what about you?

00:34:13.000 You know, I'm trying to find somebody who will say in public, yes, my name is John.

00:34:19.000 I believe he said we should inject Clorox into our vase.

00:34:23.000 I want to see somebody say that.

00:34:25.000 I can't say that because I didn't hear it that way.

00:34:29.000 Yeah.

00:34:31.000 Well, I'm with you.

00:34:33.000 I am more left-wing too, so you would expect me to answer differently.

00:34:38.000 Right.

00:34:39.000 But I do understand, like, Trump's ways of, I think, his funnies.

00:34:47.000 You know, so.

00:34:48.000 All right.

00:34:49.000 Yeah.

00:34:50.000 All right.

00:34:51.000 Well, thank you.

00:34:52.000 Thanks for the call.

00:34:53.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:34:55.000 All right.

00:34:56.000 I'm going to get somebody who will argue with me.

00:34:58.000 I know I can do it.

00:35:01.000 How about Rebelle?

00:35:03.000 Is it Rebelle?

00:35:06.000 Rebelle?

00:35:08.000 Rebelle?

00:35:10.000 Are you there?

00:35:12.000 Rebelle?

00:35:14.000 Hello?

00:35:15.000 Can you hear me?

00:35:16.000 Rebelle?

00:35:20.000 Okay.

00:35:21.000 Join not to ask.

00:35:22.000 Sorry.

00:35:24.000 Hi.

00:35:25.000 Now, are you here because you thought the president was wondering aloud about Clorox and Lysol injections?

00:35:31.000 No, I just think he was confusing, as most of the times his words are confusing.

00:35:39.000 Yeah, it was definitely confusing.

00:35:41.000 So I can't find anybody here.

00:35:43.000 But why did he have to go into that confusion?

00:35:47.000 I know this is not the argument that you're asking for, but, you know.

00:35:52.000 Well, he's told us directly, I think.

00:35:53.000 Well, he said that he is sort of reflexively optimistic, and he likes to put out, you know,

00:36:06.000 potential things that could be answers.

00:36:09.000 So he likes the creativity of it.

00:36:12.000 He said that he is actually interested in the, you know, the science and the medical part.

00:36:17.000 He has a genuine interest in the field.

00:36:19.000 So he talks about things he's interested in, and he talks about things that could be, in an optimistic world, answers.

00:36:26.000 So he's already said that he talks about potential solutions, even if they're not known to be solutions.

00:36:34.000 So it was just more of that.

00:36:36.000 But I think everybody agrees at this point it was a bad idea.

00:36:39.000 I think somehow I see similarities into the Fauci firing that he retweeted, and he said,

00:36:45.000 I like controversy, confusion.

00:36:47.000 Well, he does, because whenever it's a confusing world, he's the person who's got the most power,

00:36:57.000 because he has the biggest signal.

00:36:59.000 So if everybody else is confused, whoever is making the most noise is going to get the most attention.

00:37:04.000 All right.

00:37:05.000 Thank you.

00:37:06.000 I thought you pronounced my name correctly.

00:37:08.000 It's strange.

00:37:09.000 Oh.

00:37:10.000 Well, okay.

00:37:11.000 All right.

00:37:12.000 Thanks for the call.

00:37:13.000 Bye.

00:37:14.000 All right.

00:37:15.000 So it looks like I'm not going to find anybody to argue with me over that.

00:37:22.000 And that's about all I have for today.

00:37:29.000 So somebody says, Scott, you are a shill.

00:37:34.000 So I love this one.

00:37:38.000 So you say, Scott, you are a shill. 0.72

00:37:41.000 Would you be willing to come on and discuss that?

00:37:45.000 So I'll give you a moment.

00:37:48.000 I will put you on live.

00:37:50.000 And you can give me your argument for why I'm a shill, which would necessarily require you to make points instead of attacking me personally.

00:38:01.000 Because you notice that every time I move the left into a cognitive dissonance place, they accuse me of being a bad faith actor or a shill.

00:38:12.000 Because that's what you do when you run out of argument.

00:38:15.000 Well, I'm out of argument.

00:38:16.000 So that guy talking must be bad.

00:38:19.000 So I love this.

00:38:24.000 Let's see if you've added yourself as a potential guest.

00:38:29.000 It doesn't seem you're willing to say that to me in public.

00:38:33.000 Huh.

00:38:34.000 So surprising.

00:38:36.000 Yeah.

00:38:39.000 All right.

00:38:41.000 That's it for me.

00:38:43.000 I got nothing else, apparently, that's entertaining.

00:38:45.000 So I will talk to you tonight.

00:38:47.000 You know where to find me on Periscope.

00:38:50.000 I'll talk to you then.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - April 25, 2020

Episode 935 Scott Adams： Talking Questions About Clorox and Lysol

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