Episode 951 Scott Adams： Get in Here!
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Summary
In this episode of Conspiracy Theory Time, host Robyn explores the possibility that Kim Jong-un is alive, and why it would seem that he's been missing for a long time. Robyn tries to make sense of the evidence that points to this possibility, but is it real?
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yes you see the headset you know what that means not only is it an attractive fashion accessory
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but it allows me to talk to guests and so i will be inviting some guests on to ask you some
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deeply personal questions deeply personal oh yeah i will be the one asking the question
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this time so wait for that wait for that so what a weird day it was for me
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i told you before how strange it is to be me and how small the world has become
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and today i'm just minding my own business looking on twitter like i often do and i'm thinking
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what's happening on twitter anything new and i look at a comment and there's somebody commenting
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back to me i forget what the comment was but i saw in the comment that he was commenting back to me
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and one other person and the one other person was president trump and i thought to myself wait a
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minute how does a reply how would a reply have the two of us in there did he add and then i thought
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i wonder if and i checked president trump's uh timeline and he had he had the three retweets
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of me and a retweet of something that i tweeted about uh about something greg said on the five
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and i thought what i'm just minding my own business and the president of the united states is uh is
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tweeting my uh funny video so i maybe i'm not writing the simulation i'm open to the possibility that
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there's some other explanation for this reality but my life does not conform to anything normal
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it is so unusual and always has been that's the weird thing even as a even as a kid
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my my ordinary experiences seem to somewhat extraordinary even to me you know meaning that
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just things that you wouldn't expect could could happen to happen all the time and i don't know what
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that's about honestly i don't i i assume it's selective memory that's my best best guess but why would
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i have so many of these stories that i have selectively remembered but other people don't
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why wouldn't other people remember their cool stories like is it just a weird coincidence that
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that we're the stuff happens to be all the time all right so that was a lot of fun um and uh i don't
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know if you saw which uh which ones the president uh retweeted but that alone is worth looking at
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so a couple things um so it seems it would seem that kim jong-un is alive did you see that
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kim jong-un supreme leader north korea has appeared on video and um still photography
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at a fertilizer plant grand opening seemed quite spry seemed quite healthy look like he didn't have
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a care in the world and did it look real to you
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do you believe it well the president tweeted that he you know wished him well and the president already
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had said that he knows what the situation is so he had hinted that he was confident he knew the
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situation and he had said before that he wished uh kim jong-un well um and sure enough you know if
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you're wishing someone well that would indicate you know you think that they're you know whatever it
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is is is going to pass and then today he he said uh i think the the tweet was i for one um you know
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i'm glad to see kim jong-un is is well or something like that so it was just purely friendly
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leader to leader tweet so now we have the evidence that he's alive we have a video we've got still
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photography we've got the president's tweet seems pretty authoritative wouldn't you say and by the
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way south korea never said that he was there was any problem in the first place as far as south korea
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was concerned they were like we don't say anything so it's that's uh are we done that's it right
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well or are we let me just put this conspiracy theory into your head now i do this in the spirit
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of entertainment if anything i say convinces you that some of this is true well that's on you
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because this is conspiracy theory story time you are not to take these things too literally
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or should you that is what you will decide look at the look if you will at the video
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of kim jong-un visiting the plant and tell me that you're positive that's the same guy
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in all of the pictures tell me you're positive that's the same guy because in one of them it's
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either a different guy or he had dental surgery and something was puffed up uh during the middle of
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the visit but it only lasted a few minutes because it wasn't there in the other photographs
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is it my imagination or are they are the pictures that showed the fertilizer plant were those also
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coincidentally the the the pictures in which the alleged kim jong-un was kind of far away
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am i am i wrong about that am i am i wrong that the close-ups
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of kim and his face that are clearly him am i wrong to say that those don't show much of a background
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could be anywhere but the ones where he's sort of far away and it looks like it could be some kind of
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fertilizer plant well indeed he's a he's a little smidge but he's at a fertilizer plant sure enough
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if you think that looks like him now further evidence i submit to you if you're just joining
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don't take any of this too seriously further evidence i submit to you look at the still photographs
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of the alleged kim jong-un cutting the red tape you will notice that directly beneath kim jong-un
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there's a shadow it's a shadow between his two feet look for the direction of the sun is the sun
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directly above him no it is not it is quite clearly um fairly down in the horizon because the the shade
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from the building which we can see in other photographs is very long so if it's a long shadow
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it means the sun is fairly low so that's who that was the only lighting it was outdoors it's the only
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lighting and yet the sun is on the side but the only shadow is between kim jong-un's legs
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wouldn't you also expect there would be a second shadow on the other side of the second leg
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why only one leg shows a shadow is he part vampire is one leg a vampire leg that doesn't cast a shadow
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or or is it possible there's a little photoshop magic now you say to yourself
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that that background is very distinctive looks real to me but i submit to you it looks like that is a
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mobile uh viewing stand and a mobile area where he probably cuts a lot of red tape probably fits
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that right on his train or whatever truck and he brought i think they take it with him it looks like
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they don't build that on the spot it looks like that's kim jong-un's official platform for cutting stuff
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so is it possible that they have spliced together some real video of kim jong-un's face from whenever he was
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feeling great with some grainier photo that's harder to tell that it's him but you could definitely tell
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that there's a fertilizer plant and maybe there's a still photograph that's suspiciously unclear
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why would you have an unclear photograph that's coming from an official source because the video
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wasn't unclear there were there were no still photos that were nice and clear and shadows only apply to one
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leg not two one of the men had no shadow at all he had no shadow between his legs he had no shadow to the
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side but another one also had a shadow below but none to the side three people same place in relation to
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the sun i'm just saying i'm just saying so clearly if you put all the clues together
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in conspiracy theater it can only mean one thing that china the united states south korea
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possibly whoever we're talking to in north korea have decided that until things can be sorted out
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we want no kind of information getting out the president of course would be wise to play along
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and say absolutely glad you're feeling great which is what you say just a few days after saying uh
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i hope things turn out well because that's a pretty fast recovery isn't it from i hope things turn out
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well to hey you're looking pretty good getting around great pretty fast wouldn't you say
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okay and this concludes episode one of conspiracy theater in which if you believe any of it it's at your own risk
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i will deny everything it didn't happen none of this happened there
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so damn it somebody says i would like to take a volunteer i need a volunteer who will answer a
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personal question well sort of personal nothing that you would necessarily mind saying in front of other
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people the question would be about your internal mental thought processes so i'm going to ask you
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what you go through in your head in certain situations what you see that sort of thing so i'm looking for
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some volunteers who and i'm not taking questions right i'm going to be asking the questions this time
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so we'll see if somebody's game so let's see let's go with uh i think mark
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the kind of guy who would answer a question mark hello are you there hi are you game to
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answer a question about your own mental process sure all right when you're doing a simple math in your
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head seven plus five describe the process that happens in your head um i uh take the seven and i split the
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five so add the three to get ten and then add the two on to the ten and and what are you seeing are you
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seeing digits or are you seeing um units or items when you say you split it and you add it what are you seeing
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did you hear me digits oh digits so you're seeing digits so you're actually manipulating digits
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now uh let me tell you what i see and this is by way of explaining that we're all living on our own
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reality so if i add seven and five i see uh dominoes and i see you know a domino with five on it and
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a domino with seven dots and i i just look at them and but i don't do that with every number is i just
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do it with that that combination all right when you are uh planning to drive someplace and let's say
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that you're not going to use gps because it's someplace that um you you can get to easily enough
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without gps do you do you picture the entire route and if so do you picture it from a
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a bird's eye perspective a map like you're reading it or from the car's perspective when you visualize
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it go um well if i if i'm going somewhere on and i know and i've done the uh the trip before i don't
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i don't picture it before i go no so you don't you don't visualize it you just uh drive and take the
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turns when when you know the turns are ready to be taken all right i i will always visualize
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the entire drive and if i can't visualize it i'll gps it even even if i've been there a hundred times
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i'll be like okay why can't i see the whole path so so there's a difference all right uh
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when when you uh make decisions today let's say big career decisions etc do you visualize yourself in
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the future as the older version of you in that situation say 20 years from now uh like you mean
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the wrinkles and that kind of stuff well you know not not just the physical part but like every part
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of that do you do you visualize yourself in the movie that is you in the future with those decisions
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you've made working out for you um i think i i visualize yeah the uh how things will work out in
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terms of you know likelihood but i don't actually visualize myself yeah as an older person i probably
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just visualize myself as as i am now which is unrealistic but hopefully i never age so so that's
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interesting because i saw a study i forget when it was a while ago in which they found that they could
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convince people to save more for their retirement if they showed some if they showed the person a
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digital um version of themselves aged so they would be artificially aged and if they could see themselves at
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an older age they would save more money because they would be saving for that version of themselves but
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as a concept if they just thought about it you know that that future person isn't real you know it's
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sort of a conceptual you in the future so that's interesting so maybe maybe you should all right thanks so
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much for the call thank you all right bye now all right so that was male let's do if we can get the
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let's hope miss rhetorical is a real person who is coming on the line miss rhetorical hi are you are
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you game to answer some questions about your internal thought process yes all right when you are trying to
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fall asleep you close your eyes now tell me what you think i don't think about anything well that's
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impossible it's it's possible not to intentionally think about anything are you saying that you allow
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whatever thoughts to enter your mind just to do it on their own
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okay pick one pick one is it more yes or more no no so so what happens if you have unpleasant thoughts do
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you just go with it no so you push them out yes so you do manage your your thoughts do you ever
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imagine when you're trying to fall asleep do you imagine the current world or something that will
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be are you thinking about what could be or will be or or your current situation you're there in bed
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what will be and do you think of the positive version of it or do you do the worrying version
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where you're making lists and worrying about getting everything done tomorrow the positive
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positive so you actually and how often is your positive practical is it like yeah i mean that'll
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so more like dreaming like anything's possible right so you could be
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and okay and in your imagination um are you the star of it and what are you doing
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no i'm not the star of it i usually dream about other people other beings
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humans being you mean you mean other humans yes yes and mostly humans yes okay all right so so you
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actually have you have movies in your head in which you're not one of the actors or you're just not
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the star i'm not the star so you're just i'm not a star oh wow well let me let me tell you that's a
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little bit different than my daydreams so i i know it is so the uh the uh the audience what i'm trying
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to get at here is how different our internal worlds are because the real life that you lead
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is as much that secret internal one that's that's the way you process thoughts that's the one that you
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can't share nobody ever sees so if somebody doesn't ask these you know pretty probing specific
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questions you would never know how different it was i will tell you that i would never have a
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daydream in which i was not the personal star of it because why not i'm just making it up if you can
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make it up make yourself the star because that's that's what most directly feels good to me but i don't
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think there's a right or wrong to that uh it's just interesting that we have differences all right
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thanks for the call and let me take another one
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let's do uh let's do oh man there's a lot of people on tonight all right let's do alex
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are you there alex i think it sounds like you had an automobile accident or something alex are you
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game to answer some questions about your thought process yeah can you hear me yes i can all right
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here's your first question uh let's say you're with uh the the person of your affection whoever that
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might be and that and you're just sort of hanging out and that person takes out their phone and you
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don't really feel like looking at your phone but they're just sitting there looking at their phone
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what is your internal thought process go um i'd say i wonder what they're looking at and was this
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more important than me uh more important than what we're doing right now like who are you talking to
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that's more important or paying attention to that's more important than what we're doing right now together
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all right and in your mind how long can somebody look at their phone let's say in that situation
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where it's just the two of you before it's too long because i think in the modern world we accept that
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checking a message is pretty standard would you would you agree yeah let's say that's a method
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so how long would somebody be checked out on their phone before you start thinking okay that's rude
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give it in seconds or minutes however you want to express it i would say it would be under a minute but
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the way for me i think it would be a bigger tell is if i was to ask a question or um try to
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them and then they didn't respond or they looked like you know when they kind of look away they go
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uh-huh uh-huh instead of paying attention that would be to me like okay what's going on all right here's
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the next one when uh have you ever had too many drinks yeah okay earlier like it like everyone in
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the world all right when when you've had a few extra drinks do you do you think of it as being out of
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control or don't you think of it in terms of control at all i feel like i'm in complete control
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and and yet some people feel the exact opposite like they're out of control i would i would say that
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i artificially feel like i'm in control when i used to drink uh and i was wrong probably but i felt like
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it all right um when you find out that there's something you were positive was true for a long
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time let's say in politics something you thought was really true then you found out it wasn't
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you know what's funny since listening to you for years now i have a very different approach to it where
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i recognize the potential cognitive dissonance that i may experience and i now kind of pause and
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when i'm thinking internally i'm going whoa i can't be wrong i pause and i think wait could i be wrong
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and i kind of question myself a little bit more now so if i find out that i'm a hundred percent wrong
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i'm i can accept that um i find that i'm often delighted because anytime that uh this is one of
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those ways to frame your life so the frame i put on uh an error like that if i'm just like dead wrong
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about something uh that almost every time there's something valuable you're going to take away from
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that and you're not going to be wrong the next time because you know this you're going to be alert
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because the more patterns you see the more capable you are recognizing you know the next bad thing
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coming so that's the way i think of it um all right um let's see one more uh there's a a hard
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challenge coming up but it's one that you know you can succeed at it's just hard are you excited
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uh i would say depends on the area but usually i get a little bit excited i sort of thrive when
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there's a challenge or when i'm under pressure personally so anything that is to me especially
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when people say that it can't be done for example i ran a marathon no training a few months ago and
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everyone said it's impossible and the morning of i was thinking this is insane but yet i just
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got up and did it and i learned a lot of wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute what what was
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the the longest distance you would run let's say within the last two weeks before you ran a marathon
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i didn't run i didn't run at all wait a minute you're telling me that you just got off the couch and
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ran a marathon i wouldn't say i got off the couch i i work out but i do kind of weight lifting i don't
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do anything related to endurance or running the most i ever ran was maybe 10 years ago i did 10 kilometers
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when i used to you know be younger but uh yeah but you train your legs
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not really it's a weird thing no um nothing out of the ordinary just okay yeah very basic all right
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well that might be the strangest story i've heard tonight all right well so thanks for the call i
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appreciate it no problem thanks guy thank you all right let's do another one uh
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i want to make sure that uh in case in case christina is on here i want to see if she's on here
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nope christina where are you all right it's time for um we'll take judith
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judith judith judith hello judith can you hear me
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judith that's not working yes okay we will try something else um i want one more
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more but we have to try a female to make it fair because we're talking about how people are thinking
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so we'll try jen so we have half men half women
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jen disappeared as soon as i selected her i wonder why that happens so often
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is it because i'm scary all right we'll go for uh mark
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may i ask you some questions about your internal thought process absolutely
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when when you're when you see the weekend coming
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do you say to you do you say to yourself yay i've got you know the weekend or do you say to
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yourself uh i have to plan and do these things that i don't have to do during the week because it's
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easy to do my job yeah yeah i've always enjoyed a weekend ever since i was a i was a kid i love the
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weekend and and do you are you an extrovert i'm an introvert you're an introvert who loves the weekend
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yes i'm i'm i'm an extroverted introvert i'm i can be outgoing when i want to but let's say it's
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let's say it's thursday afternoon and you're you're starting to think about the weekend
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how do you hold it in your head do you see little movies of the things you're going to do it's like oh
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here's me doing this here's me do that or how do you hold it in your head when you think of the weekend
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coming well i always picture everything in movies my whole thought process is when i look at
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things and think about things i see things as as a movie screen do you see them in order so can so
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do you see like uh thursday you know do you see friday little movies like they're on a stage sort
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of arcing around to sunday uh no i think about certain items and events that i'm going to do over
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the weekend and i will think about the ones i'm looking forward to most probably in pictures
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and do you think everything else around it do you think of them serially or do you sort of almost
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look down on your schedule and see it filled in and say oh there's that morning thing there's that
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afternoon thing do you do you see it like as geography or only think of them one at a time uh probably
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more geography as opposed to yeah is that odd i don't know i mean there's so many ways you could
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do it and when you're thinking of let's say let's say you've got uh three things you've got to do that
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day and there are three different places when you're imagining the three different places are you more
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likely to see yourself there or to think of it on a map and say oh it's uh one over here one over here
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or one over there and think of it more like from the sky which way do you think of it you probably
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think of it both ways but which is dominant i probably the map i'll kind of have an overview of
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different places i need to go and i'll look at it maybe strategically all right if somebody's asking
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you uh to get for directions to someplace you know and let's say uh it's not that far away would uh and
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they say how far um would you answer it in terms of miles or would you answer in terms of time it
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would take to get there i think i would say miles first and are you from the west coast always i am
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not i'm from the um i'm from the kansas city missouri area okay that's the same answer because i once
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heard that if you grew up around new york you answer it in time because the the traffic is so bad
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and all that matters is the time yeah all right thank you for playing well thank you very much all
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right take care all right i was just experimenting with that to see if we would have any uh aha moments
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i was doing that at home with uh christina and it was fascinating um i i think maybe it's even better
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with couples because then those differences are really more meaningful but start asking questions
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of the type that i was asking it's first of all it's a really good conversation thing
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to have it because it's so super personal but it's not the kind of personal people don't want to talk
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about you know it's like super personal and just sort of scientific so you just feel like talking about
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that um and when you find out how how differently people uh visualize things especially the visual
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part uh it's it's really remarkable anyway that's all i've got for you tonight remember if you want
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to get to sleep tonight remember to close your eyes squeeze one muscle at a time until it's really
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really tight and release it and then go to the next muscle until you've squeezed and released all of
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your major muscles that you can tense while you're laying down then count from one to 20 maybe even
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imagining that you're hearing my voice when it happens optionally and when you get to 20 after you do
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those two things you're just going to melt into the bed and have the best sleep that you've had in a
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long time so you have that to look forward to and i will talk to you in the morning