Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 969 Scott Adams： I'm Here. Where Are You？

00:00:00.000 Well, I saw the most fascinating thing today.

00:00:14.760 Want to hear about it?

00:00:16.400 Yeah, I know you do.

00:00:17.840 That's why you're here.

00:00:19.260 You're going to wind down, get ready for a great night of sleep.

00:00:24.300 It's going to be a good one.

00:00:25.800 Not for everybody, but for many of you.

00:00:28.240 Yep, well, we've got stories.

00:00:34.540 Let me tell you the story about my minibike.

00:00:39.560 Yes, when I was 13, and for years before that,

00:00:42.960 all I wanted was to own a little minibike,

00:00:45.360 a tiny little bike that was mowed the size of a lawnmower.

00:00:50.860 But, man, I wanted one.

00:00:52.580 I mowed lawns, and I shoveled snow, and I worked on my uncle's farm.

00:00:56.720 And finally, I'd saved enough to buy a minibike.

00:01:02.140 It was one of the best days of my life.

00:01:04.980 Except my minibike's chain fell off, but no problem.

00:01:09.400 I'd owned bicycles before.

00:01:11.060 How hard could it be?

00:01:12.500 So I put it back on.

00:01:14.180 It went a little longer.

00:01:15.520 Chain fell off again.

00:01:16.520 And I could go up to 100 yards before that chain would fall off again.

00:01:22.640 And for the entire time, I owned that minibike.

00:01:26.080 I never actually got it to work more than a minute or so.

00:01:31.900 And so I remind you of the story I told you that forms one of the stories of my personality.

00:01:42.180 And one of the stories of my personality that I talked about in a prior periscope

00:01:48.020 was that if you dropped me on the island of prisoners,

00:01:51.940 I'd have a tough first week.

00:01:54.040 But eventually, if you came back in a year,

00:01:55.880 I would be running the island of prisoners.

00:01:57.660 So because that sort of fantasy movie script that I run in my head

00:02:04.920 is so baked into my personality intentionally,

00:02:09.440 I intentionally make that part of my code,

00:02:13.560 that when I saw a picture, I was just randomly looking through something,

00:02:17.200 I saw a picture of myself at 13 on that minibike.

00:02:20.400 And I realized, yeah, I've been telling Christina for a while that I want a minibike.

00:02:28.900 And I'm pretty sure she doesn't think that I mean it.

00:02:35.020 Now, I don't have really the situation where it would make sense to have one.

00:02:39.200 But I'm going to get a minibike.

00:02:43.120 I might be 75 when it happens.

00:02:47.180 I might be 95.

00:02:48.080 But when you come back to the island in a year,

00:02:53.360 I'm going to be on that minibike.

00:02:56.480 Because I don't even know if I could stop myself from getting it eventually.

00:03:00.120 It's like just built into my code.

00:03:02.120 I'm going to have to make that happen someday.

00:03:05.360 I'd like to compare my medical recommendations

00:03:11.460 to the medical community.

00:03:13.720 I think this is fair, don't you?

00:03:17.400 Because my qualifications for medical advice are nothing.

00:03:23.540 And of course, the medical community is highly, highly competent.

00:03:28.780 So there was me calling for an immediate end to flights from China.

00:03:33.640 That was on January 24th, a week before the president called for it.

00:03:42.060 And before any of the medical experts called for it.

00:03:45.760 So let's score that one for Scott.

00:03:48.580 Because it turns out my medical advice on virus transmission was pretty good.

00:03:56.080 Now, again, I'm not saying that that makes me qualified.

00:04:01.000 Nothing like that.

00:04:02.580 I'm still an idiot.

00:04:03.780 I don't know anything about these medical scientific things.

00:04:08.500 But that's why we're scoring it.

00:04:10.880 Okay, I got lucky on one.

00:04:12.500 All right.

00:04:12.820 So, all right.

00:04:14.080 I got lucky on one.

00:04:15.200 Then it was when I was calling for masks,

00:04:19.040 when all of the medical community were saying,

00:04:21.700 no, it'll just make it worse.

00:04:23.980 You don't need no masks.

00:04:26.480 And I'm pretty sure I was the first public person to say,

00:04:31.800 bullshit, bullshit, I'm sorry.

00:04:34.360 That can't possibly be true.

00:04:36.100 I based that on my large reservoir of no medical knowledge whatsoever,

00:04:42.300 on top of my gigantic foundation of no scientific knowledge whatsoever.

00:04:50.100 Okay, I got lucky on that one.

00:04:52.020 Everybody now agrees masks are pretty important.

00:04:56.100 So, all right.

00:04:56.600 So, you know, it's two for me, zero for the experts.

00:05:01.340 But there's some things that were sort of a tie,

00:05:06.340 meaning that they said them,

00:05:08.780 but I did probably say them first.

00:05:12.300 For example, when the virus stuff was first emerging,

00:05:18.800 those of you who have been watching me on Periscope,

00:05:20.980 you know I was probably the first person in the country,

00:05:24.820 at least, you know, sort of in the public view,

00:05:27.280 who said, make sure you get outside and get some sun.

00:05:31.400 Vitamin D will be good for you.

00:05:33.700 Now, I'm not saying that I invented that idea.

00:05:36.880 Indeed, it came from the experts.

00:05:38.360 But have you ever heard so many people tell you to get outside

00:05:42.120 and get in the sun since then?

00:05:44.840 I'm not saying I started it.

00:05:46.940 I'm saying it's a tie,

00:05:48.720 because the experts say it's a good idea.

00:05:51.660 I say it's a good idea.

00:05:54.200 I said it first.

00:05:55.480 I'm pretty sure I beat almost everybody there,

00:05:59.860 which doesn't make me smarter.

00:06:02.600 Clearly, I'm not.

00:06:04.960 But I, you know, am three for three.

00:06:08.600 Then there's the question of the hydroxychloroquine,

00:06:11.020 and here it's no fair at all,

00:06:13.400 because I think you really have to have some serious medical knowledge

00:06:17.520 to make a good recommendation about hydroxychloroquine.

00:06:22.180 But I made one anyway,

00:06:23.420 which was that, given that we all knew it had been prescribed for many years

00:06:29.400 for several different causes,

00:06:31.740 was well understood,

00:06:33.560 the risk of getting this COVID thing,

00:06:35.480 especially for some types of people, was devastating.

00:06:38.760 So from a risk management perspective,

00:06:41.460 given that we had some anecdotal information,

00:06:43.480 I said, we should at least make it an option.

00:06:47.940 Should be a good thing to try,

00:06:49.920 just from a risk management perspective,

00:06:52.980 not from a medical perspective,

00:06:55.200 because it's really,

00:06:56.400 the medical is just part of the larger question,

00:06:59.620 because remember,

00:07:00.320 you could have been saving the economy as well.

00:07:03.040 So you had two upsides,

00:07:05.660 saving people,

00:07:06.780 but also saving the entire economy,

00:07:09.180 which would save more people.

00:07:10.680 So since there was an enormous potential gain,

00:07:15.280 if it worked,

00:07:16.440 or even if it worked some of the time,

00:07:19.700 because the stakes were so high,

00:07:21.640 it would be worth the risk.

00:07:23.440 There was a known risk somewhere in the,

00:07:26.340 well, you know,

00:07:27.160 you can have this if you've got some arthritis,

00:07:30.140 or we'll give this to you for lupus.

00:07:32.500 So what did the experts say?

00:07:35.420 Well, early on,

00:07:36.120 they said,

00:07:36.680 it's going to kill you.

00:07:39.080 That stuff will just kill you.

00:07:40.680 Now,

00:07:43.280 you could argue that if someone else were scoring this one,

00:07:47.860 they might give it to the experts.

00:07:49.640 They might say,

00:07:50.980 Scott,

00:07:51.940 the experts are right.

00:07:53.980 They do not have reliable,

00:07:57.080 double-blind,

00:07:58.040 large-scale studies

00:07:59.600 that would show that this is both safe

00:08:02.220 and efficacious.

00:08:04.500 Scott,

00:08:04.900 don't you know how science works?

00:08:07.900 To which I would say,

00:08:09.500 I don't think you know how decision-making works.

00:08:12.920 Because I know all that stuff.

00:08:15.080 All that stuff you told me.

00:08:17.180 I knew all that.

00:08:18.340 Do you know how decisions are made?

00:08:22.560 Because decisions are made,

00:08:24.780 taking all that

00:08:25.820 and combining it with all the other stuff.

00:08:28.660 And then you weigh the odds

00:08:31.500 and make your decision.

00:08:33.280 So I'm going to score that one for me

00:08:35.360 from,

00:08:36.120 not from a medical perspective,

00:08:37.960 because of course,

00:08:39.120 what do I know about anything medical?

00:08:40.620 But from a risk management perspective

00:08:44.220 and from the fact that we can see

00:08:46.260 a number of other countries

00:08:48.100 are obviously doing exactly this.

00:08:51.240 So we don't know if it works great yet.

00:08:54.080 That's a separate question.

00:08:56.280 I'll never be the one

00:08:58.040 that tells you it works great.

00:08:59.860 How would I know?

00:09:01.020 I don't believe any of the studies.

00:09:03.040 But there's certainly enough

00:09:05.240 to make you think you might

00:09:07.700 that certainly a number of other countries

00:09:10.040 are going at it hard.

00:09:12.200 So I'm four for four.

00:09:17.180 Then you've got the ventilator situation.

00:09:20.560 All right.

00:09:21.400 Now my understanding

00:09:22.420 of the ventilator situation is

00:09:24.240 there's a little bit of a question here.

00:09:28.680 A little bit of a question.

00:09:31.380 Oh, yeah.

00:09:33.400 I've got one more after this.

00:09:35.760 Whether the ventilators are helping people

00:09:37.960 or killing them

00:09:38.800 in the specific case

00:09:40.140 of the COVID patients.

00:09:43.000 Now, you've probably seen

00:09:44.560 on the internet at least,

00:09:46.980 if not in the news.

00:09:48.040 I'm not even sure

00:09:48.580 if the mainstream news

00:09:50.120 has covered these stories,

00:09:51.220 but maybe they have.

00:09:52.560 That maybe the ventilators

00:09:53.720 are making things worse,

00:09:55.460 not better.

00:09:56.220 You've seen that, right?

00:09:59.320 What was my recommendation

00:10:00.940 about ventilators?

00:10:03.220 Well, I didn't know anything

00:10:04.860 about ventilators

00:10:05.720 until I started seeing

00:10:06.840 these reports

00:10:07.680 of, you know,

00:10:09.680 maybe the ventilators are worse.

00:10:12.140 But do you think

00:10:14.380 that people stopped using ventilators

00:10:17.480 the moment people started

00:10:19.520 raising the alarm?

00:10:22.480 Possibly.

00:10:23.040 What I saw

00:10:24.760 was that people

00:10:25.620 were getting better results

00:10:26.760 maybe with these nose cannulas

00:10:29.160 or whatever they are,

00:10:30.000 basically just regular oxygen

00:10:32.200 in a more,

00:10:34.100 less aggressive way.

00:10:36.380 So,

00:10:37.380 I've seen those reports.

00:10:40.160 I don't know what's true.

00:10:41.240 How would I know?

00:10:42.320 How would I know

00:10:43.020 if a nose cannula

00:10:44.140 is better than a ventilator

00:10:46.160 and in what situations?

00:10:49.500 But,

00:10:50.380 if it's true,

00:10:53.960 and I would need

00:10:54.900 a fact check on this,

00:10:56.900 that hospitals

00:10:58.640 can bill insurance companies

00:11:00.920 a god-awful amount

00:11:02.860 if that ventilator

00:11:04.180 goes down the throat

00:11:05.200 and far, far less

00:11:08.320 if it doesn't

00:11:09.200 and hospitals

00:11:11.240 are hurting for money

00:11:12.480 right now,

00:11:13.400 if all of those things

00:11:15.220 are true,

00:11:16.160 what does that create?

00:11:19.880 A situation

00:11:21.080 which you've heard

00:11:21.720 be described before.

00:11:23.940 There's a huge

00:11:25.220 upside potential

00:11:26.460 if somebody

00:11:29.040 wanted to act badly.

00:11:32.120 Huge upside potential.

00:11:34.940 Low opportunity

00:11:36.340 to be caught.

00:11:37.700 Why?

00:11:38.720 Because my understanding

00:11:40.180 is that they only

00:11:42.120 use the ventilator

00:11:43.100 in very prescripted situations.

00:11:45.140 I need a fact check

00:11:46.260 on that too.

00:11:47.460 So you should ignore

00:11:48.160 everything I'm saying

00:11:49.020 in this segment

00:11:49.560 because I'm probably

00:11:50.160 just spreading

00:11:50.960 conspiracy theories.

00:11:54.600 But,

00:11:55.440 my understanding

00:11:56.980 is that they use it

00:11:58.160 in a very specific case

00:12:00.340 so that they don't

00:12:01.220 get sued.

00:12:02.380 So that if,

00:12:03.420 I'm just guessing,

00:12:04.580 it's something like

00:12:05.280 your oxygen levels

00:12:07.000 plus something else.

00:12:08.220 So if you hit

00:12:09.640 the checklist,

00:12:11.320 the ventilator

00:12:11.900 goes down.

00:12:13.320 Now,

00:12:13.580 even if they were

00:12:14.500 suspected

00:12:15.080 that the ventilator

00:12:17.080 was killing people

00:12:18.060 in this specific

00:12:18.920 situation

00:12:19.600 of COVID,

00:12:21.240 and I don't know

00:12:21.760 that that's true,

00:12:23.080 but if they did

00:12:23.820 suspect that,

00:12:25.220 would they be

00:12:25.840 influenced by the fact

00:12:27.220 that there would be

00:12:27.940 a gigantic

00:12:28.700 financial incentive

00:12:30.960 as well as

00:12:32.460 probably lower risk

00:12:34.300 to follow

00:12:35.580 the checklist

00:12:36.400 to do what you do

00:12:38.220 when the oxygen

00:12:39.420 is this

00:12:40.020 and the other

00:12:41.220 signs are this,

00:12:43.160 even if you thought

00:12:43.980 it was killing them.

00:12:45.980 Because you don't know.

00:12:47.580 I mean,

00:12:47.860 you don't know,

00:12:48.560 but you know

00:12:48.920 one pays you a lot.

00:12:50.380 So they might die

00:12:51.600 either way.

00:12:52.940 You don't really know,

00:12:54.040 do you?

00:12:55.060 You don't know.

00:12:56.360 Because that's

00:12:56.900 the whole point.

00:12:57.540 I think if the doctors

00:12:58.740 knew it was killing people,

00:13:00.980 like if they actually knew,

00:13:03.040 I can't imagine

00:13:04.120 except in the rarest case.

00:13:07.340 I can't imagine

00:13:08.020 a doctor actually

00:13:08.880 killing somebody

00:13:09.520 intentionally

00:13:10.020 if they knew

00:13:11.260 it was going to kill them.

00:13:12.760 But what if they just

00:13:13.700 thought it was a toss-up?

00:13:16.700 What if they thought

00:13:17.640 to themselves,

00:13:18.460 I don't really know,

00:13:21.380 but I do know

00:13:22.300 that the checklist

00:13:23.060 says I should be doing it,

00:13:24.840 and that's the checklist

00:13:25.880 that keeps me

00:13:26.560 from getting sued.

00:13:28.300 Because at least

00:13:29.040 I'll say,

00:13:29.540 well,

00:13:30.060 I had a suspicion,

00:13:31.860 but I didn't have

00:13:32.680 any proof

00:13:33.340 that it was killing people.

00:13:34.120 Because to do that,

00:13:35.880 I would have to have

00:13:36.420 some kind of a study.

00:13:38.100 And I'm not in a study,

00:13:39.160 I'm in a hospital.

00:13:41.660 So it would be easy

00:13:43.040 for me to imagine

00:13:44.320 that the ventilators

00:13:49.880 are maybe a little overused.

00:13:52.300 I'm just saying

00:13:52.940 that's something

00:13:54.180 we ought to look at.

00:13:55.100 But I wouldn't want to,

00:13:59.080 I don't want to suggest

00:14:00.460 that that's true,

00:14:01.540 because this is so much

00:14:03.860 the kind of situation

00:14:05.000 where it turns out

00:14:07.220 the whole thing

00:14:07.680 is just BS.

00:14:09.080 Meaning that maybe hospitals

00:14:11.640 don't make more

00:14:12.900 if the ventilator is used.

00:14:14.360 Some basic part of the story

00:14:15.720 is just untrue.

00:14:17.640 So be on guard

00:14:18.480 that there might be

00:14:20.080 like a basic part

00:14:21.000 of the story

00:14:21.520 that just isn't true.

00:14:23.580 So that's what happens

00:14:25.600 when you put together

00:14:27.220 everything you've heard

00:14:27.960 on the internet.

00:14:29.540 All right.

00:14:32.160 So all I'm saying is

00:14:34.540 you should always listen

00:14:36.540 to the experts.

00:14:37.200 I think I made my case.

00:14:41.120 All right.

00:14:42.580 Here's some weird things

00:14:43.840 that are happening

00:14:44.380 because the simulation

00:14:45.840 is speaking to us.

00:14:48.500 Have you noticed now

00:14:50.000 that you're starting

00:14:53.880 to see the world

00:14:54.720 more clearly?

00:14:57.540 Does it feel like 2020

00:14:59.020 is a year

00:14:59.960 when there's some kind

00:15:01.200 of veil that's being lifted

00:15:02.620 on reality?

00:15:03.760 or at least

00:15:04.720 on what you understood

00:15:06.040 about how civilization

00:15:08.180 was put together?

00:15:09.620 There are a lot

00:15:10.140 of assumptions

00:15:10.900 are falling away, right?

00:15:13.480 And isn't it weird

00:15:15.640 that the simulation

00:15:17.660 would pick this year

00:15:18.900 to make us

00:15:20.900 see things clearly?

00:15:23.260 What year is this?

00:15:26.240 2020.

00:15:27.800 The simulation

00:15:28.680 is letting us

00:15:29.800 see clearly

00:15:30.420 in 2020.

00:15:33.200 2020 eyesight.

00:15:35.300 How cool is that?

00:15:38.200 And I tweeted

00:15:39.520 I found a picture

00:15:40.900 I had.

00:15:41.380 I tweeted this

00:15:41.940 a long time ago

00:15:42.640 but it got funnier

00:15:43.500 over time.

00:15:45.400 I had purchased

00:15:46.620 for gardening

00:15:47.480 there's a little thing

00:15:48.400 called a TDS meter.

00:15:50.920 Now it just says

00:15:51.680 actually TDS meter

00:15:53.200 on it

00:15:53.600 which was funny

00:15:54.260 which is why

00:15:54.740 I tweeted it.

00:15:55.720 But I didn't realize

00:15:56.500 the first time

00:15:57.100 I tweeted it

00:15:57.740 how much more

00:15:58.360 meaningful it would be

00:15:59.380 because right next to it

00:16:00.520 it said

00:16:00.800 made in China.

00:16:02.400 So it was a TDS meter

00:16:04.280 made in China

00:16:05.200 that I just happened

00:16:06.500 to run into today.

00:16:08.660 But what are the odds

00:16:09.640 the simulation delivers?

00:16:13.340 Here is the weirdest thing

00:16:15.080 about the tragic situation

00:16:16.940 of Ahmoud Arbery

00:16:18.340 who was slain

00:16:20.340 by the two guys

00:16:22.220 who recklessly

00:16:23.280 brought that gun

00:16:24.380 to confront him.

00:16:26.300 Here is the weird thing

00:16:28.400 about this story.

00:16:29.600 Are you ready for it?

00:16:30.620 I am going to give you

00:16:31.600 the take on the story

00:16:33.260 that nobody has given you.

00:16:34.780 Do you think

00:16:35.120 that is possible?

00:16:37.060 Is there any way

00:16:38.180 because you are probably

00:16:39.180 sick of the freaking story

00:16:40.380 by now right?

00:16:41.180 It is a tragedy.

00:16:43.600 What can you do?

00:16:44.860 You can talk about it

00:16:45.860 all day long.

00:16:47.580 It is not going to

00:16:48.360 help the family.

00:16:50.520 But here is my take on it.

00:16:52.040 Nobody disagrees.

00:16:56.660 It is the weirdest

00:16:57.520 kind of a conversation

00:17:01.060 because nobody

00:17:02.320 really disagrees.

00:17:04.200 If you actually

00:17:04.800 and people are acting

00:17:07.380 like they are arguing

00:17:08.520 without disagreeing.

00:17:11.180 Have you noticed that?

00:17:12.820 Because

00:17:13.300 have you seen

00:17:15.480 or heard one person

00:17:16.840 who said

00:17:17.400 yeah it was a good shoot.

00:17:19.220 you know

00:17:19.660 that is exactly

00:17:20.680 what they should have

00:17:21.340 been out there doing?

00:17:23.320 No.

00:17:24.700 Have you seen

00:17:25.480 one person

00:17:26.120 who thought

00:17:26.580 that the guys

00:17:27.300 who were

00:17:28.800 you know

00:17:29.480 chasing the

00:17:30.420 what was his name?

00:17:32.640 Amud.

00:17:33.520 The guys

00:17:33.980 does anybody think

00:17:34.860 that the guys

00:17:35.460 who chased them

00:17:36.400 were using

00:17:38.620 good judgment?

00:17:40.200 Nobody.

00:17:41.480 Literally nobody

00:17:42.440 thinks they were

00:17:43.100 using good judgment

00:17:44.080 all the way through.

00:17:46.760 Does anybody

00:17:47.620 think

00:17:48.100 that

00:17:49.220 walking around

00:17:50.800 in somebody's house

00:17:51.860 is going to

00:17:53.200 raise suspicion?

00:17:54.300 Does anybody

00:17:54.640 think

00:17:55.000 it's the worst

00:17:56.020 thing in the world?

00:17:57.180 If you went

00:17:57.660 right down

00:17:58.500 the line

00:17:59.860 nobody disagrees

00:18:01.920 on any part of it.

00:18:03.580 It was

00:18:03.820 people who made

00:18:05.140 what turned out

00:18:06.660 to be bad decisions

00:18:07.800 at the time.

00:18:09.500 And

00:18:09.540 what really

00:18:10.640 the big problem

00:18:11.800 was

00:18:12.200 that all the bad

00:18:13.000 decisions happened

00:18:13.840 in the same place.

00:18:14.820 if you take

00:18:16.320 three people

00:18:17.700 who make

00:18:18.120 bad decisions

00:18:18.940 once in a while

00:18:20.200 you know

00:18:20.600 we don't know

00:18:21.060 that they only

00:18:21.780 made bad decisions

00:18:22.800 right?

00:18:23.740 I wouldn't

00:18:24.100 allege that

00:18:25.120 but if you take

00:18:26.560 somebody who

00:18:27.260 sometimes makes

00:18:28.320 bad decisions

00:18:29.160 and you put them

00:18:30.320 in a field

00:18:30.900 all by themselves

00:18:31.820 probably no problem.

00:18:34.880 If you take

00:18:35.780 two people

00:18:36.900 who sometimes

00:18:37.960 make decisions

00:18:39.060 that are bad

00:18:39.800 and put them

00:18:41.720 in a field

00:18:42.380 next to each other

00:18:43.220 well

00:18:44.400 a little more

00:18:45.220 opportunity

00:18:46.760 for something

00:18:47.360 to go wrong

00:18:47.900 but if you

00:18:48.320 had that

00:18:48.740 third person

00:18:49.720 who has a

00:18:51.160 tendency

00:18:51.440 to make

00:18:51.920 bad decisions

00:18:52.740 you arm

00:18:54.620 two of them

00:18:55.300 you've got

00:18:58.460 a bad situation.

00:19:00.000 Now

00:19:00.200 is it

00:19:01.020 is it

00:19:02.700 racism?

00:19:03.940 Well that's

00:19:04.160 what everybody

00:19:04.560 wants to talk

00:19:05.240 about

00:19:05.540 but if you

00:19:06.560 have a situation

00:19:07.240 where you could

00:19:07.840 easily imagine

00:19:08.640 it happened

00:19:09.260 no matter

00:19:09.720 which races

00:19:10.680 any of them

00:19:11.240 were

00:19:11.520 where do you

00:19:14.480 get that

00:19:14.820 information?

00:19:16.460 Unless

00:19:17.020 you are

00:19:18.060 yourself

00:19:18.560 a racist.

00:19:19.920 So this is

00:19:20.480 where the

00:19:20.800 parody begins.

00:19:22.560 What would

00:19:22.920 make people

00:19:23.460 think

00:19:23.940 that the

00:19:24.720 two white

00:19:25.240 guys

00:19:25.720 were racist?

00:19:27.440 What would

00:19:27.720 be the

00:19:28.240 what would

00:19:30.000 be the

00:19:30.280 interpretation

00:19:30.760 that says

00:19:31.600 yeah this

00:19:32.240 is obviously

00:19:32.880 it's because

00:19:33.860 they're racist?

00:19:35.660 It's not

00:19:36.500 because they're

00:19:37.060 white is it?

00:19:37.740 because that's

00:19:39.940 the only

00:19:40.200 evidence I

00:19:40.840 see.

00:19:41.900 I don't

00:19:42.060 see now if

00:19:43.020 it turns out

00:19:43.500 they have

00:19:44.220 some body

00:19:44.740 of work

00:19:45.260 in which

00:19:45.580 they've

00:19:45.880 said things

00:19:46.620 that would

00:19:47.540 be appalling

00:19:48.120 I will

00:19:48.700 immediately

00:19:49.060 change my

00:19:49.740 opinion.

00:19:50.560 But as

00:19:50.760 far as I

00:19:51.100 know

00:19:51.440 as far as

00:19:53.180 I know

00:19:53.520 it's just

00:19:54.000 who they

00:19:54.400 are that

00:19:55.580 makes you

00:19:55.980 assume that

00:19:56.500 they're

00:19:56.700 racist.

00:19:57.240 Is that

00:19:57.520 not true?

00:19:58.780 And if

00:19:59.200 you're

00:19:59.400 assuming

00:19:59.700 somebody's

00:20:00.140 a racist

00:20:00.580 because of

00:20:01.320 who they

00:20:01.840 are

00:20:02.260 not what

00:20:04.000 they did

00:20:04.600 because again

00:20:05.820 it would be

00:20:06.880 easy to

00:20:07.260 imagine that

00:20:07.780 situation

00:20:08.260 where you

00:20:08.960 could just

00:20:09.280 mix up

00:20:09.800 all the

00:20:10.460 ethnicities

00:20:11.600 ages and

00:20:12.400 genders

00:20:12.800 of everybody

00:20:13.340 involved

00:20:13.940 still get

00:20:15.240 something like

00:20:16.120 that same

00:20:16.560 outcome.

00:20:17.460 It'd just be

00:20:17.920 easy.

00:20:18.580 You could

00:20:19.000 recast that

00:20:20.580 a million

00:20:20.920 times and

00:20:22.140 you put

00:20:22.420 three people

00:20:23.020 who made

00:20:23.420 bad decisions

00:20:24.200 in the past

00:20:24.860 I'm guessing

00:20:25.380 and maybe

00:20:27.140 they made

00:20:27.580 them that

00:20:27.940 night they

00:20:28.380 just happened

00:20:28.800 to happen

00:20:29.100 at the same

00:20:29.540 time.

00:20:29.900 It was a

00:20:31.560 terrible

00:20:31.840 tragedy but

00:20:33.400 to imagine

00:20:34.080 therefore that

00:20:34.760 you can

00:20:35.100 read minds

00:20:36.100 or that

00:20:36.760 they were

00:20:38.460 racist because

00:20:39.840 they're white

00:20:40.660 I would say

00:20:41.780 is not an

00:20:42.240 evidence.

00:20:43.360 Should it

00:20:43.740 become an

00:20:44.160 evidence later

00:20:44.920 I would

00:20:46.320 reconsider.

00:20:48.760 So that's

00:20:49.340 my take on

00:20:49.900 it.

00:20:50.280 People are

00:20:50.720 acting like

00:20:51.340 they're

00:20:51.520 disagreeing but

00:20:52.400 I don't

00:20:52.600 think they

00:20:52.940 are.

00:20:53.840 I don't

00:20:54.100 think there's

00:20:54.480 a thing I

00:20:54.960 just said

00:20:55.360 that anybody

00:20:55.740 would disagree

00:20:56.220 with.

00:20:56.940 If you

00:20:57.340 actually

00:20:57.820 could talk

00:20:59.680 to them

00:20:59.980 one-on-one

00:21:00.640 there's

00:21:01.720 not one

00:21:02.100 thing I

00:21:02.460 just said

00:21:02.960 that anybody

00:21:03.420 would disagree

00:21:03.960 with.

00:21:04.560 I don't

00:21:04.780 think.

00:21:05.740 Right?

00:21:07.180 Just a

00:21:07.880 tragedy.

00:21:11.360 Here's

00:21:11.900 three

00:21:13.100 interesting

00:21:13.680 well you

00:21:14.560 can decide

00:21:15.260 if it's

00:21:15.540 interesting

00:21:15.920 takes on

00:21:17.600 what's going

00:21:18.460 to happen

00:21:18.840 after the

00:21:19.760 coronavirus

00:21:20.280 situation

00:21:21.080 is passed.

00:21:22.700 Now

00:21:22.840 Balaji

00:21:23.320 Srinivasan

00:21:24.220 you might

00:21:26.140 think of

00:21:26.560 him as

00:21:26.940 more of

00:21:27.300 a

00:21:27.540 this is

00:21:28.220 the fun

00:21:28.560 part because

00:21:29.080 it's

00:21:29.260 from three

00:21:29.720 different

00:21:30.020 personalities

00:21:30.680 so you

00:21:31.600 might think

00:21:31.960 of him

00:21:32.260 as a

00:21:32.880 tech

00:21:33.940 very

00:21:36.920 he's hard

00:21:38.260 to describe

00:21:38.760 because he's

00:21:39.060 such a

00:21:39.700 renaissance

00:21:40.280 kind of

00:21:40.680 personality

00:21:41.140 but somebody

00:21:42.800 who's future

00:21:43.400 minded

00:21:43.760 technology

00:21:44.400 minded

00:21:44.940 science and

00:21:47.600 technology

00:21:48.200 kind of a

00:21:48.760 brain

00:21:49.020 and

00:21:50.180 so he

00:21:51.600 says one

00:21:52.100 possible good

00:21:52.900 future

00:21:53.320 after the

00:21:55.220 coronavirus

00:21:55.540 stuff is

00:21:56.620 that people

00:21:56.960 would move

00:21:57.360 out to

00:21:57.720 rural areas

00:21:58.560 who work

00:21:58.940 remotely

00:21:59.340 change

00:22:00.380 jobs more

00:22:01.560 easily in

00:22:02.300 a truly

00:22:02.740 global

00:22:03.500 labor market

00:22:04.460 fewer but

00:22:05.380 longer drives

00:22:06.420 with autonomous

00:22:07.160 cars

00:22:07.720 24-7

00:22:08.780 delivery drones

00:22:09.880 socialize

00:22:10.560 online and

00:22:11.300 in virtual

00:22:11.840 reality

00:22:12.360 physical

00:22:14.040 social distancing

00:22:15.100 with digital

00:22:16.060 social networking

00:22:17.560 question mark

00:22:18.340 so those are

00:22:19.640 just sort of

00:22:20.460 some you

00:22:21.200 know thoughts

00:22:21.880 about how

00:22:22.880 things might

00:22:23.460 be different

00:22:24.040 now those

00:22:24.660 come from

00:22:25.080 a remember

00:22:25.800 technology

00:22:27.140 futurist

00:22:28.040 kind of a

00:22:29.440 personality

00:22:29.900 and then

00:22:30.840 retweeting that

00:22:31.520 with his own

00:22:31.940 comment is

00:22:32.460 Nate Silver

00:22:33.020 now Nate

00:22:34.760 would be most

00:22:35.600 famous for

00:22:36.280 his statistical

00:22:37.940 analytical

00:22:38.980 abilities

00:22:39.800 so his take

00:22:41.940 on it goes

00:22:42.400 another possible

00:22:43.140 future

00:22:43.540 there's a

00:22:44.560 vaccine in

00:22:45.280 12 to 18

00:22:45.960 months

00:22:46.360 people mostly

00:22:47.580 go back to

00:22:48.180 how they were

00:22:48.600 living before

00:22:49.340 but with

00:22:49.840 greater awareness

00:22:50.740 of pandemic

00:22:51.500 risk

00:22:51.980 in other

00:22:52.660 words

00:22:52.840 everything

00:22:53.140 just reverts

00:22:53.860 to the

00:22:54.160 mean

00:22:54.400 yeah

00:22:55.700 it'll be

00:22:56.240 just like

00:22:56.740 before

00:22:57.140 because

00:22:58.320 things revert

00:22:59.820 to the

00:23:00.160 mean

00:23:00.420 so the

00:23:01.600 technologist

00:23:02.500 is seeing

00:23:03.740 all these

00:23:04.160 technology

00:23:04.740 opportunities

00:23:05.400 and the

00:23:06.380 market

00:23:06.740 meeting those

00:23:09.080 opportunities

00:23:09.620 and sort of

00:23:10.240 building the

00:23:10.760 future

00:23:11.080 the guy

00:23:13.800 who knows

00:23:14.180 the most

00:23:14.460 about statistics

00:23:15.180 says quite

00:23:15.920 reasonably

00:23:16.360 by the way

00:23:17.360 I'm not

00:23:17.940 giving you

00:23:18.800 an opinion

00:23:19.240 which is

00:23:19.760 the

00:23:19.980 you know

00:23:20.540 the more

00:23:20.840 likely one

00:23:21.480 is just

00:23:22.600 going from

00:23:23.100 two different

00:23:23.540 personalities

00:23:24.140 so from

00:23:25.660 Nate's

00:23:26.240 filter

00:23:26.600 we get

00:23:27.580 a vaccine

00:23:28.220 go back

00:23:29.720 to the way

00:23:30.160 we were

00:23:30.500 mostly

00:23:30.860 and then

00:23:32.820 the last

00:23:33.360 one

00:23:33.660 the last

00:23:35.120 assumption

00:23:37.120 or the

00:23:38.660 last prediction

00:23:39.440 is for me

00:23:39.960 so I thought

00:23:41.360 well

00:23:41.660 now we've

00:23:42.460 heard from

00:23:42.960 two different

00:23:43.780 personalities

00:23:44.380 let's see

00:23:45.420 what I can

00:23:45.820 add to this

00:23:46.360 so I said

00:23:47.320 yet another

00:23:47.960 possible future

00:23:48.780 the flaws

00:23:50.440 of our

00:23:50.820 ancient

00:23:51.240 assumptions

00:23:51.840 and rusted

00:23:52.520 systems

00:23:53.260 have now

00:23:54.560 been cruelly

00:23:55.340 revealed

00:23:55.880 making them

00:23:57.080 easy prey

00:23:57.900 for our

00:23:58.420 geniuses

00:23:59.080 and engineers

00:23:59.740 who will

00:24:00.960 lead civilization

00:24:01.900 to the

00:24:02.340 golden age

00:24:03.040 that's my

00:24:04.720 bet

00:24:05.020 so

00:24:06.820 nobody of course

00:24:09.120 knows what's

00:24:09.740 going to happen

00:24:10.200 I would say

00:24:10.840 that this is

00:24:11.460 bigger than

00:24:12.400 all of us

00:24:12.960 so anybody

00:24:14.400 who says

00:24:14.820 they can predict

00:24:15.500 what's going

00:24:15.900 to happen

00:24:16.160 after the

00:24:16.620 coronavirus

00:24:17.040 I think

00:24:17.540 that's

00:24:18.000 that's a

00:24:19.440 stretch

00:24:19.760 you know

00:24:20.320 I've had

00:24:21.220 some good

00:24:21.580 predictions

00:24:22.000 but they're

00:24:22.540 in narrow

00:24:23.320 little areas

00:24:24.160 you know

00:24:25.280 but predicting

00:24:26.120 how everything

00:24:26.920 goes

00:24:27.420 that's a lot

00:24:28.280 to ask

00:24:28.680 but there

00:24:30.120 are some

00:24:30.460 things that I

00:24:30.980 could say

00:24:31.420 with some

00:24:32.600 confidence

00:24:33.240 one is that

00:24:35.360 and see if you

00:24:37.160 agree with me

00:24:37.660 in the comments

00:24:38.220 here

00:24:38.420 one is that

00:24:39.700 this has caused

00:24:40.560 us to completely

00:24:41.580 rethink

00:24:42.260 everything

00:24:43.520 all of our

00:24:44.320 assumptions

00:24:44.720 all of our

00:24:45.420 systems

00:24:45.920 why do we

00:24:46.920 drive to work

00:24:47.700 you know

00:24:47.960 why are some

00:24:49.940 things physical

00:24:50.680 our entire

00:24:51.960 civilization

00:24:52.740 if you think

00:24:53.860 about it

00:24:54.340 well not

00:24:55.300 entire

00:24:55.640 but let's

00:24:56.520 say 90%

00:24:57.280 of our

00:24:57.620 civilization

00:24:58.120 is a

00:24:59.420 pre-internet

00:25:00.320 design

00:25:00.840 think about

00:25:02.480 that

00:25:02.880 I mean

00:25:03.500 that's

00:25:03.980 that's

00:25:04.500 sort of

00:25:04.740 the kill

00:25:05.100 shot

00:25:05.380 right there

00:25:05.780 I don't

00:25:05.980 have to

00:25:06.240 go on

00:25:06.600 90%

00:25:07.760 of civilization

00:25:08.580 is pre-internet

00:25:11.340 design

00:25:11.800 I'm just

00:25:12.900 making up

00:25:13.360 that number

00:25:13.780 but it's

00:25:14.160 something like

00:25:14.820 that

00:25:15.340 what happened

00:25:17.540 with the

00:25:18.380 coronavirus

00:25:18.760 situation

00:25:19.480 everybody just

00:25:20.680 took a step

00:25:21.280 back

00:25:21.700 and said

00:25:22.340 okay

00:25:23.300 should I

00:25:23.800 just

00:25:24.020 continue

00:25:24.840 running

00:25:25.360 as hard

00:25:26.060 as I can

00:25:26.500 in the same

00:25:26.960 direction

00:25:27.340 forever

00:25:27.780 you know

00:25:28.820 now that

00:25:29.120 I've got

00:25:29.400 a pullback

00:25:30.520 what do I

00:25:31.360 see

00:25:31.680 what has

00:25:32.360 been revealed

00:25:33.060 what do I

00:25:34.000 know now

00:25:34.680 because of

00:25:35.880 this lockdown

00:25:36.720 and everything

00:25:37.260 else

00:25:37.500 what do I

00:25:37.860 know now

00:25:38.280 that I

00:25:38.560 didn't know

00:25:38.920 before

00:25:39.280 the answer

00:25:40.240 is

00:25:40.560 a lot

00:25:41.980 a lot

00:25:43.760 we really

00:25:45.080 found out

00:25:45.860 a lot

00:25:46.320 about where

00:25:46.840 all the

00:25:47.100 weaknesses

00:25:47.600 are in

00:25:48.920 our systems

00:25:49.460 we know

00:25:50.300 where our

00:25:50.700 food systems

00:25:51.440 are bad

00:25:51.980 we know

00:25:52.360 what kind

00:25:52.680 of people

00:25:52.980 are going

00:25:53.240 to need

00:25:53.460 help

00:25:53.780 and what

00:25:54.540 kind

00:25:54.920 we'll probably

00:25:55.680 learn something

00:25:56.280 about printing

00:25:57.180 trillions of dollars

00:25:58.140 weirdly it looks

00:25:59.460 like we can just

00:26:00.120 print money if we

00:26:00.880 want to

00:26:01.300 I don't know

00:26:01.840 if there's going

00:26:02.220 to be a penalty

00:26:02.680 for this

00:26:03.140 but it looks

00:26:04.080 like there might

00:26:04.560 not be

00:26:05.040 in this weird

00:26:05.940 situation

00:26:06.460 where

00:26:06.820 inflation is

00:26:08.640 largely impossible

00:26:09.480 so almost

00:26:13.200 everything from

00:26:14.320 you know

00:26:14.940 you might not

00:26:15.560 have a post

00:26:16.180 office

00:26:16.560 I think all

00:26:17.240 the newspapers

00:26:17.880 are likely

00:26:18.560 to disappear

00:26:19.440 so the

00:26:20.240 nature of

00:26:21.320 news itself

00:26:22.240 is going to

00:26:23.040 change

00:26:23.440 because an

00:26:24.240 entire industry

00:26:25.020 is just

00:26:25.380 likely going

00:26:26.780 to disappear

00:26:27.360 along with

00:26:29.180 my job

00:26:30.020 and

00:26:31.060 that's just

00:26:33.320 a fraction

00:26:34.560 and I think

00:26:35.180 even stuff

00:26:35.700 like healthcare

00:26:36.500 there are

00:26:38.180 likely to be

00:26:38.900 gigantic

00:26:39.460 lasting

00:26:40.020 changes

00:26:40.580 for example

00:26:41.720 one of the

00:26:42.780 things that

00:26:43.080 happened during

00:26:43.600 the lockdown

00:26:44.560 was that

00:26:45.440 I was part

00:26:47.060 of this

00:26:47.340 process

00:26:47.980 I was

00:26:48.340 suggested

00:26:48.920 to the

00:26:49.460 task force

00:26:50.040 through

00:26:51.760 some excellent

00:26:53.340 help

00:26:53.740 thank you

00:26:54.700 Jonah

00:26:54.980 shoemate

00:26:56.240 I suggested

00:26:58.540 to the task

00:26:59.100 force the

00:26:59.580 idea of

00:27:00.180 letting doctors

00:27:01.000 who are doing

00:27:01.780 telehealth

00:27:02.880 practice across

00:27:04.980 state lines

00:27:05.660 because of the

00:27:06.240 emergency

00:27:06.600 you couldn't

00:27:07.440 do that

00:27:07.780 before

00:27:08.120 I think

00:27:09.600 that will

00:27:09.880 probably last

00:27:10.700 what kind

00:27:12.100 of a

00:27:12.460 permanent

00:27:13.600 change

00:27:14.120 would that

00:27:14.480 have

00:27:14.840 on the

00:27:15.760 cost

00:27:16.060 structure

00:27:16.580 and just

00:27:17.020 the very

00:27:17.460 assumptions

00:27:18.060 about how

00:27:19.360 you do

00:27:19.640 healthcare

00:27:20.120 now add

00:27:22.300 that to the

00:27:22.760 fact that we

00:27:23.360 learned how to

00:27:24.260 rapidly build

00:27:25.020 all of these

00:27:25.680 testing devices

00:27:27.780 so manufacturing

00:27:29.420 is going to

00:27:29.960 come back to

00:27:30.460 the United

00:27:30.820 States

00:27:31.280 so now add

00:27:32.400 the fact

00:27:32.880 that we're

00:27:33.640 going to start

00:27:34.040 manufacturing

00:27:34.820 tons of

00:27:35.720 medical devices

00:27:37.120 probably around

00:27:38.580 more locally

00:27:39.920 add to the

00:27:41.200 fact that you'll

00:27:41.880 be able to get

00:27:42.280 your doctor

00:27:42.800 on the phone

00:27:43.420 how hard will

00:27:44.560 it be to get

00:27:45.160 a test

00:27:45.780 from any

00:27:47.400 place locally

00:27:49.420 it could be

00:27:50.160 your CVS

00:27:50.940 your Walmart

00:27:51.560 because they

00:27:52.320 will be doing

00:27:52.800 this stuff

00:27:53.240 you go in

00:27:54.160 you get a

00:27:54.540 test

00:27:54.900 send it on

00:27:56.740 your app

00:27:57.160 to your

00:27:57.440 telehealth

00:27:57.920 doctor

00:27:58.440 I mean you

00:27:59.800 can see

00:28:00.240 universal

00:28:01.440 healthcare

00:28:02.080 happening

00:28:02.600 at a lower

00:28:03.180 cost

00:28:03.740 than

00:28:04.340 current

00:28:05.000 healthcare

00:28:05.400 very easily

00:28:06.520 and it

00:28:06.960 could be a

00:28:07.960 direct

00:28:08.280 outcome

00:28:08.800 of the

00:28:09.980 coronavirus

00:28:10.600 stuff

00:28:11.200 so that's

00:28:11.940 just one

00:28:12.200 example

00:28:12.560 but I

00:28:12.980 think

00:28:13.480 everything

00:28:13.760 from

00:28:14.060 education

00:28:14.660 to

00:28:15.140 the way

00:28:16.440 we

00:28:16.660 commute

00:28:17.160 live

00:28:17.740 recreate

00:28:18.400 everything

00:28:19.140 I think

00:28:20.040 it's just

00:28:20.420 going to

00:28:20.720 all be

00:28:21.060 rethought

00:28:21.600 from scratch

00:28:22.760 and the

00:28:23.940 result

00:28:24.340 will be

00:28:24.880 a little

00:28:26.240 thing we

00:28:26.640 call

00:28:26.960 the golden

00:28:28.140 age

00:28:28.580 you're in

00:28:29.500 the middle

00:28:29.780 of act

00:28:30.320 three

00:28:30.700 act

00:28:32.080 three

00:28:32.420 is when

00:28:33.040 you get

00:28:33.500 really

00:28:33.780 whacked

00:28:34.140 hard

00:28:34.380 and it

00:28:34.660 doesn't

00:28:34.880 look like

00:28:35.240 you could

00:28:35.540 come

00:28:35.760 back

00:28:36.140 that's

00:28:37.720 just

00:28:37.980 about

00:28:38.240 where

00:28:38.440 we're

00:28:38.640 at

00:28:38.960 but

00:28:40.440 we

00:28:41.840 humans

00:28:42.400 don't

00:28:43.340 really

00:28:43.600 lose

00:28:44.120 in the

00:28:44.980 end

00:28:45.240 if you

00:28:46.160 noticed

00:28:46.580 we do

00:28:47.580 have a

00:28:48.100 hundred

00:28:48.460 thousand

00:28:49.020 year

00:28:49.420 on a

00:28:49.780 broken

00:28:50.020 record

00:28:50.480 of

00:28:51.320 kicking

00:28:51.800 the ass

00:28:52.340 of every

00:28:52.820 micro

00:28:53.380 virus

00:28:54.240 mammal

00:28:55.320 bird

00:28:55.880 and fish

00:28:56.400 that gets

00:28:56.780 in our

00:28:57.020 way

00:28:57.340 so we

00:28:58.500 are going

00:28:58.860 to climb

00:28:59.260 on top

00:28:59.720 of this

00:29:00.180 we're

00:29:01.760 just about

00:29:02.560 at the

00:29:02.860 top

00:29:03.100 of the

00:29:03.420 hump

00:29:04.620 heading

00:29:05.440 over

00:29:05.760 feeling

00:29:07.740 good

00:29:08.000 about

00:29:08.220 it

00:29:08.720 so

00:29:10.220 a weird

00:29:11.180 thing

00:29:11.460 happened

00:29:11.800 on the

00:29:12.100 internet

00:29:12.360 today

00:29:12.760 I don't

00:29:13.200 know

00:29:13.320 if you've

00:29:13.600 ever

00:29:13.740 seen

00:29:13.980 this

00:29:14.180 happened

00:29:14.560 I swear

00:29:16.200 I'm

00:29:16.920 not

00:29:17.240 making

00:29:17.560 this

00:29:17.840 up

00:29:18.100 this

00:29:19.060 is a

00:29:19.380 real

00:29:19.620 thing

00:29:20.000 that

00:29:20.700 happened

00:29:20.960 to me

00:29:21.380 I promise

00:29:22.680 cross my

00:29:23.300 heart

00:29:23.600 not making

00:29:24.940 this

00:29:25.180 up

00:29:25.440 I

00:29:27.240 changed

00:29:27.640 my

00:29:27.880 mind

00:29:28.200 on

00:29:28.400 something

00:29:28.800 I

00:29:29.580 know

00:29:29.820 I

00:29:30.040 know

00:29:30.240 you

00:29:30.620 don't

00:29:30.780 believe

00:29:31.000 it

00:29:31.420 because

00:29:33.380 you've

00:29:33.580 never

00:29:33.740 seen

00:29:34.060 it

00:29:34.240 right

00:29:34.540 nobody's

00:29:35.200 ever

00:29:35.340 changed

00:29:35.720 their

00:29:35.900 mind

00:29:36.380 about

00:29:37.080 anything

00:29:37.440 in

00:29:37.640 politics

00:29:38.160 or

00:29:38.460 on

00:29:38.600 the

00:29:38.700 internet

00:29:39.080 but

00:29:40.120 damn

00:29:41.560 Ann

00:29:41.960 Coulter

00:29:42.440 wrote

00:29:43.960 an opinion

00:29:44.420 piece

00:29:44.860 about

00:29:45.240 the

00:29:45.700 virus

00:29:46.820 and whether

00:29:47.260 it came

00:29:47.580 from

00:29:47.760 the lab

00:29:48.280 or it

00:29:48.520 came

00:29:48.700 from

00:29:48.900 the

00:29:49.080 web

00:29:49.260 markets

00:29:49.700 didn't

00:29:51.440 you

00:29:51.640 kind

00:29:51.880 of

00:29:52.000 expect

00:29:52.440 that Ann

00:29:52.940 Coulter

00:29:53.380 would

00:29:53.780 write

00:29:54.080 that it

00:29:54.500 came

00:29:54.700 from

00:29:54.920 the

00:29:55.100 lab

00:29:55.520 wouldn't

00:29:58.120 you

00:29:58.440 wouldn't

00:29:59.600 you

00:29:59.740 have

00:29:59.900 expected

00:30:00.380 that

00:30:00.820 well

00:30:01.700 what I

00:30:02.940 wouldn't

00:30:03.200 have seen

00:30:03.620 coming

00:30:04.040 is that

00:30:04.940 you know

00:30:05.300 she's

00:30:05.660 anti

00:30:06.320 neocon

00:30:07.360 anti

00:30:07.920 war

00:30:08.520 for no

00:30:08.880 reason

00:30:09.200 and why

00:30:10.260 not

00:30:10.580 nothing

00:30:11.760 wrong

00:30:12.040 with that

00:30:12.400 and

00:30:13.680 she

00:30:14.300 makes

00:30:14.600 a compelling

00:30:15.220 lawyerly

00:30:16.460 argument

00:30:16.880 but not

00:30:17.640 like a

00:30:18.040 lawyer

00:30:18.240 she's

00:30:18.680 one of

00:30:19.100 the best

00:30:19.360 writers

00:30:19.700 in the

00:30:19.960 country

00:30:20.240 she

00:30:22.220 makes

00:30:22.480 a compelling

00:30:23.000 argument

00:30:23.460 that it

00:30:23.820 probably

00:30:24.040 came

00:30:24.300 from

00:30:24.480 the

00:30:24.620 web

00:30:24.820 market

00:30:25.200 and I

00:30:26.260 thought

00:30:26.460 to myself

00:30:27.000 damn

00:30:29.000 it

00:30:29.260 damn

00:30:31.320 it

00:30:31.460 Ann

00:30:31.680 Coulter

00:30:32.060 I'll

00:30:33.740 try to

00:30:34.420 give you

00:30:34.840 her

00:30:35.080 argument

00:30:35.520 quickly

00:30:35.940 and there

00:30:36.220 was

00:30:36.320 a fact

00:30:38.100 that I

00:30:38.540 kind

00:30:38.840 of

00:30:38.980 knew

00:30:39.340 but

00:30:39.660 somehow

00:30:40.060 I

00:30:40.340 hadn't

00:30:40.580 put it

00:30:40.920 in place

00:30:41.420 the way

00:30:41.800 she

00:30:42.000 had

00:30:42.340 and I

00:30:43.100 thought

00:30:43.360 oh

00:30:44.180 it all

00:30:45.240 makes

00:30:45.560 sense

00:30:45.880 now

00:30:46.400 and here's

00:30:47.380 the way

00:30:47.600 she

00:30:47.840 puts it

00:30:48.660 in context

00:30:49.220 first

00:30:51.180 of all

00:30:51.480 who

00:30:51.860 would

00:30:52.060 like

00:30:52.380 the

00:30:53.580 United

00:30:53.860 States

00:30:54.240 to

00:30:54.500 get

00:30:54.740 into

00:30:54.940 some

00:30:55.140 kind

00:30:55.340 of

00:30:55.440 military

00:30:56.460 confrontation

00:30:57.100 with

00:30:57.580 anybody

00:30:58.000 it would

00:30:58.300 be

00:30:58.400 the

00:30:58.560 neocons

00:30:59.120 so if

00:30:59.880 you

00:31:00.000 believe

00:31:00.300 there are

00:31:00.580 these

00:31:00.740 people

00:31:01.000 called

00:31:01.260 neocons

00:31:02.000 these

00:31:02.680 ultra

00:31:03.140 right

00:31:04.720 wing

00:31:06.060 people

00:31:06.740 in the

00:31:07.000 government

00:31:07.360 and the

00:31:08.560 wheels

00:31:09.180 of industry

00:31:09.820 in the

00:31:10.160 military

00:31:10.540 industrial

00:31:10.960 complex

00:31:11.560 and that

00:31:12.640 these

00:31:12.880 neocons

00:31:13.460 are always

00:31:14.100 itching

00:31:14.600 for a war

00:31:15.340 or at

00:31:16.140 the very

00:31:16.440 least

00:31:16.880 a build

00:31:17.460 up of

00:31:17.820 military

00:31:18.300 equipment

00:31:18.900 because

00:31:19.480 presumably

00:31:20.020 they'll

00:31:20.420 make

00:31:20.660 money

00:31:20.920 on

00:31:21.160 the

00:31:21.980 military

00:31:22.420 industrial

00:31:23.560 complex

00:31:24.320 so

00:31:25.460 it would

00:31:26.860 behoove

00:31:27.260 them

00:31:27.580 to

00:31:28.820 make us

00:31:29.700 think

00:31:29.900 that we

00:31:30.160 need to

00:31:30.400 build up

00:31:30.760 our

00:31:30.900 military

00:31:31.220 because

00:31:31.720 China

00:31:32.060 is a

00:31:32.320 threat

00:31:32.560 so

00:31:33.600 if

00:31:34.020 you

00:31:34.100 were

00:31:34.200 to

00:31:34.300 ask

00:31:34.500 yourself

00:31:34.860 is there

00:31:35.680 anybody

00:31:36.120 who

00:31:36.360 would

00:31:36.500 be

00:31:36.660 capable

00:31:37.260 of

00:31:37.760 this

00:31:37.960 is my

00:31:38.300 spin

00:31:38.580 not

00:31:38.920 not

00:31:39.520 ants

00:31:39.880 is there

00:31:40.940 anybody

00:31:41.200 who would

00:31:41.440 be

00:31:41.600 capable

00:31:42.080 of

00:31:42.720 creating

00:31:43.880 a rumor

00:31:44.440 that it

00:31:45.000 came from

00:31:45.420 the lab

00:31:46.320 which would

00:31:46.880 be the

00:31:47.120 worst

00:31:47.400 case

00:31:47.880 scenario

00:31:48.340 who would

00:31:49.720 be capable

00:31:50.360 and have

00:31:51.160 the motive

00:31:51.720 and if

00:31:53.540 there are

00:31:53.880 such things

00:31:54.480 as neocons

00:31:55.360 well okay

00:31:56.220 there you

00:31:56.740 have the

00:31:57.020 motive

00:31:57.380 and you

00:31:58.240 have the

00:31:58.520 opportunity

00:31:59.040 because the

00:31:59.520 opportunity

00:31:59.900 part is

00:32:00.380 easy right

00:32:00.920 it's pretty

00:32:01.940 easy to

00:32:02.300 start a

00:32:02.620 rumor

00:32:02.860 who can

00:32:04.600 do that

00:32:05.060 and so

00:32:05.940 there's a

00:32:06.300 huge

00:32:06.540 potential

00:32:07.360 upside

00:32:07.860 right

00:32:08.980 odds of

00:32:10.500 getting caught

00:32:11.220 and going

00:32:11.640 to jail

00:32:12.120 for starting

00:32:12.840 a rumor

00:32:13.360 zero

00:32:15.340 potential

00:32:17.100 upside

00:32:17.700 if it

00:32:18.040 causes a

00:32:18.560 military

00:32:19.000 buildup

00:32:19.560 because it's

00:32:20.080 part of

00:32:20.460 what makes

00:32:20.860 us get

00:32:21.820 antagonistic

00:32:22.580 toward China

00:32:23.240 profit

00:32:25.180 incalculable

00:32:27.480 gigantic

00:32:28.680 so in a

00:32:31.340 situation like

00:32:32.060 that

00:32:32.520 could you

00:32:34.200 expect

00:32:34.760 people to

00:32:36.020 start a

00:32:36.480 rumor that

00:32:37.120 would benefit

00:32:37.620 them in

00:32:39.120 incalculable

00:32:40.020 ways and

00:32:40.780 they couldn't

00:32:41.200 get caught

00:32:41.760 not in any

00:32:42.580 serious way

00:32:43.180 yeah

00:32:44.420 yeah

00:32:45.580 we live

00:32:46.120 in a

00:32:46.340 world

00:32:46.680 where that's

00:32:47.580 a ripe

00:32:48.180 situation

00:32:48.860 for that

00:32:49.360 doesn't

00:32:50.080 mean it

00:32:50.300 happened

00:32:50.620 but it's

00:32:52.080 the ripest

00:32:52.720 of situations

00:32:53.720 and then

00:32:55.840 Anne makes

00:32:56.600 this case

00:32:57.120 you know

00:32:57.380 I guess

00:32:57.700 a lot was

00:32:58.720 made of the

00:32:59.140 fact that

00:32:59.700 it was a

00:33:00.620 bat

00:33:00.980 virus

00:33:02.220 but there

00:33:02.880 were no

00:33:03.220 bats in

00:33:03.760 the wet

00:33:04.040 market

00:33:04.360 you all

00:33:04.740 heard that

00:33:05.100 right

00:33:05.320 so it

00:33:06.480 couldn't

00:33:06.660 have come

00:33:06.900 from bats

00:33:07.520 because

00:33:08.940 they didn't

00:33:09.940 have any

00:33:10.340 bats in

00:33:10.800 the wet

00:33:11.060 markets

00:33:11.480 anywhere near

00:33:12.120 there

00:33:12.400 but as

00:33:14.940 Anne explains

00:33:15.880 and I

00:33:16.740 kind of

00:33:17.140 knew this

00:33:17.840 but somehow

00:33:19.060 I missed the

00:33:19.800 significance

00:33:20.240 because I'm

00:33:20.960 an idiot

00:33:21.360 it we know

00:33:24.360 that the virus

00:33:25.080 didn't go from

00:33:25.860 bat to human

00:33:26.640 it went through

00:33:27.240 some middle

00:33:28.820 species

00:33:29.440 which apparently

00:33:30.760 this paneguin

00:33:31.760 or whatever the

00:33:32.260 hell it is

00:33:32.680 some kind of

00:33:33.560 animal or bird

00:33:34.580 yeah pangolin

00:33:35.320 I don't even know

00:33:36.320 what that is

00:33:36.960 but some kind

00:33:37.660 of a creature

00:33:38.140 which apparently

00:33:40.120 they are at

00:33:40.960 the markets

00:33:41.520 so the argument

00:33:43.160 that it couldn't

00:33:44.180 have been at the

00:33:44.680 wet market

00:33:45.220 doesn't make sense

00:33:47.140 because of course

00:33:48.240 it could

00:33:48.580 so once you

00:33:49.840 throw in the fact

00:33:50.580 that there's

00:33:50.980 somebody who has

00:33:51.520 a motive to tell

00:33:52.360 you the wrong story

00:33:53.220 and it's easy to do

00:33:54.160 and you throw in the

00:33:55.120 fact that the most

00:33:55.840 ordinary way this

00:33:56.780 happens is through

00:33:58.140 the wet markets

00:33:59.340 and then you throw

00:34:01.480 in the fact

00:34:01.960 that any

00:34:02.740 any virus lab

00:34:04.540 in the world

00:34:05.080 would probably

00:34:06.140 have safety

00:34:07.780 violations

00:34:08.300 which is what

00:34:09.860 Anne also said

00:34:11.180 and I thought

00:34:11.840 to myself

00:34:12.240 oh that's

00:34:13.540 that's a good

00:34:14.340 point

00:34:14.700 I'll bet you

00:34:15.560 could randomly

00:34:16.260 pick

00:34:16.740 you know

00:34:17.720 any top level

00:34:19.020 secret facility

00:34:20.340 and say

00:34:21.400 alright we're

00:34:21.980 going to do

00:34:22.220 an audit

00:34:22.640 what are they

00:34:23.860 going to find

00:34:24.420 well they don't

00:34:25.700 find nothing

00:34:26.380 because the people

00:34:27.220 who do the audit

00:34:27.960 are paid to

00:34:28.540 find stuff

00:34:29.200 if you pay

00:34:30.640 somebody to do

00:34:31.400 an audit

00:34:31.880 and look for

00:34:33.000 safety violations

00:34:34.000 they'll find them

00:34:36.180 100% of the time

00:34:37.320 otherwise

00:34:38.080 you know

00:34:38.680 why are you

00:34:39.080 going to buy

00:34:39.400 them the next

00:34:39.960 time

00:34:40.220 so

00:34:41.080 so here's

00:34:43.220 the thing

00:34:43.560 before I read

00:34:44.760 Anne's argument

00:34:45.440 I would have

00:34:45.960 said 80%

00:34:46.880 chance

00:34:47.400 it came from

00:34:48.700 the lab

00:34:49.460 just like our

00:34:50.660 intelligence agencies

00:34:51.720 are saying

00:34:52.320 our intelligence

00:34:53.940 agencies

00:34:54.460 right

00:34:55.020 just like what

00:34:56.520 they're saying

00:34:57.040 and that

00:34:59.340 you know

00:35:00.020 China's lying

00:35:00.820 about that

00:35:01.620 and everything

00:35:02.080 else

00:35:02.480 and I want to

00:35:04.460 say 80%

00:35:05.180 chance it was

00:35:05.820 the lab

00:35:06.420 not intentional

00:35:07.280 because that

00:35:07.900 just never made

00:35:08.640 sense to me

00:35:09.240 but maybe an

00:35:10.000 accident

00:35:10.420 I would now

00:35:12.520 revise that

00:35:13.540 to

00:35:14.620 50-50

00:35:17.700 I want to go

00:35:20.240 60-40

00:35:21.180 web market

00:35:22.540 I'm going to go

00:35:24.500 55%

00:35:25.620 likely

00:35:26.940 that the

00:35:28.320 Ann Coulter

00:35:28.940 argument is

00:35:29.600 right

00:35:29.960 55%

00:35:33.220 that it was

00:35:34.400 the web market

00:35:35.100 darn it

00:35:37.180 somebody says

00:35:39.140 that

00:35:39.380 pangolins

00:35:40.380 are fake

00:35:41.000 news

00:35:41.440 I'm willing

00:35:43.100 to be

00:35:43.660 persuaded

00:35:44.340 you saw

00:35:45.020 me be

00:35:45.380 persuaded

00:35:45.820 once

00:35:46.220 anyway

00:35:46.820 the point

00:35:47.360 is

00:35:47.660 this is

00:35:48.620 the kind

00:35:49.000 of news

00:35:49.500 that you

00:35:51.020 just can't

00:35:51.560 be sure

00:35:51.960 of anything

00:35:52.620 anymore

00:35:53.060 right

00:35:53.340 you just

00:35:55.060 can't be

00:35:55.560 sure of

00:35:56.000 anything

00:35:56.280 I don't

00:35:57.000 think you

00:35:57.340 can rule

00:35:57.720 out the

00:35:58.060 fact that

00:35:58.480 it was

00:35:58.900 engineered

00:35:59.740 I do

00:36:01.540 not think

00:36:02.000 you can

00:36:02.380 rule out

00:36:02.820 engineered

00:36:03.260 no

00:36:03.840 not

00:36:04.240 not even

00:36:04.840 a little

00:36:05.080 bit

00:36:05.300 but you

00:36:05.840 also can't

00:36:06.580 rule out

00:36:06.940 the web

00:36:07.240 market

00:36:07.600 and I

00:36:08.180 thought it

00:36:08.480 was a

00:36:08.780 little bit

00:36:09.140 easier to

00:36:09.760 rule out

00:36:10.140 the web

00:36:10.420 market

00:36:10.760 but if

00:36:11.560 you can't

00:36:12.040 rule it

00:36:12.380 out

00:36:12.740 and it

00:36:13.980 is the

00:36:14.320 most common

00:36:14.900 way that

00:36:15.440 other viruses

00:36:16.100 have started

00:36:16.800 you kind of

00:36:19.160 have to play

00:36:19.600 the odds

00:36:20.060 don't you

00:36:20.480 if it

00:36:22.200 usually starts

00:36:23.300 in this

00:36:23.700 way

00:36:24.020 and this

00:36:25.060 way is the

00:36:25.620 same way

00:36:26.000 it's always

00:36:26.380 been

00:36:26.700 and it

00:36:27.560 usually starts

00:36:28.500 that way

00:36:28.940 what makes

00:36:30.580 this the

00:36:31.080 one time

00:36:31.600 it started

00:36:32.000 the other

00:36:32.420 way

00:36:32.760 good

00:36:33.920 good

00:36:35.320 or as

00:36:37.860 or as

00:36:39.440 Jack

00:36:39.940 Pasabig

00:36:40.460 said on

00:36:41.020 Twitter

00:36:41.320 he goes

00:36:42.220 where do

00:36:42.780 you think

00:36:43.040 the guys

00:36:43.420 from the

00:36:43.760 lab

00:36:44.020 go to

00:36:44.320 eat

00:36:44.560 where do

00:36:47.480 you think

00:36:47.700 they go

00:36:47.960 to lunch

00:36:48.340 and I

00:36:51.140 don't know

00:36:51.380 how would

00:36:51.740 you score

00:36:52.160 that

00:36:52.520 you know

00:36:53.400 what would

00:36:53.920 the score

00:36:54.420 be

00:36:54.660 if the

00:36:55.760 guy from

00:36:56.120 the lab

00:36:56.560 went over

00:36:56.900 and got

00:36:57.180 it on

00:36:57.440 his shoe

00:36:57.860 and then

00:36:59.000 he brought

00:36:59.760 the deadly

00:37:00.200 virus into

00:37:00.900 the lab

00:37:01.480 would you

00:37:02.640 score that

00:37:03.120 as a

00:37:03.400 lab

00:37:03.640 accident

00:37:04.040 if it

00:37:04.420 then got

00:37:04.760 out of

00:37:05.000 the lab

00:37:05.440 I don't

00:37:07.000 know

00:37:07.500 all right

00:37:09.900 that's

00:37:11.960 probably all

00:37:12.540 I wanted

00:37:12.860 to say

00:37:13.440 on that

00:37:13.860 anybody

00:37:14.460 want to

00:37:14.800 ask me

00:37:15.080 a question

00:37:15.500 I'm going

00:37:17.740 to take

00:37:17.980 some questions

00:37:18.600 I'm going

00:37:19.060 to catch

00:37:19.340 somebody

00:37:19.660 off guard

00:37:20.320 get ready

00:37:23.520 get on

00:37:23.920 your game

00:37:24.560 the question

00:37:26.060 answering

00:37:26.540 will begin

00:37:27.820 will begin

00:37:28.760 all right

00:37:30.320 we'll see

00:37:30.700 if Jeff

00:37:31.140 is awake

00:37:32.060 Jeff

00:37:35.060 are you

00:37:36.380 awake

00:37:36.720 hey

00:37:37.560 do you

00:37:37.740 have a

00:37:37.920 question

00:37:38.160 for me

00:37:38.660 I knew

00:37:41.940 beyond a

00:37:42.800 shadow of a

00:37:43.240 doubt

00:37:43.500 that tonight

00:37:44.120 you'd ask

00:37:44.660 me to come

00:37:45.120 online

00:37:45.720 tonight

00:37:46.220 it's weird

00:37:46.680 I'm a

00:37:48.580 physician

00:37:48.980 I'm a

00:37:49.460 hospitalist

00:37:50.080 I work

00:37:50.400 in critical

00:37:50.820 care

00:37:51.080 medicine

00:37:51.500 I've had

00:37:52.160 the unfortunate

00:37:52.720 pleasure of

00:37:53.580 treating this

00:37:54.360 virus

00:37:54.860 and yeah

00:37:57.720 it's kind

00:37:58.000 of a scary

00:37:58.380 virus

00:37:58.740 can you

00:38:00.600 tell us

00:38:01.240 what part

00:38:01.620 of the

00:38:01.800 country

00:38:02.060 or you

00:38:02.320 want to

00:38:02.540 keep

00:38:02.700 that

00:38:03.000 I'll tell

00:38:04.120 you

00:38:04.200 I'm in

00:38:04.480 Oklahoma

00:38:05.000 southwest

00:38:06.080 Oklahoma

00:38:06.600 I'm in

00:38:07.400 a fairly

00:38:08.420 rural area

00:38:09.520 medium-sized

00:38:10.260 hospital

00:38:10.800 most of my

00:38:12.220 patients have

00:38:12.840 come out of

00:38:13.400 a federal

00:38:13.860 prison

00:38:14.260 actually

00:38:14.800 yeah

00:38:16.740 so let

00:38:17.920 me ask

00:38:18.340 you this

00:38:18.800 yeah

00:38:19.240 of the

00:38:21.840 so this

00:38:22.600 is anecdotal

00:38:23.160 how many

00:38:23.540 patients have

00:38:24.460 you seen

00:38:24.860 roughly

00:38:25.280 a lot

00:38:26.080 a few

00:38:26.540 I would

00:38:28.380 say

00:38:28.660 in the

00:38:29.120 hospital

00:38:29.680 in

00:38:30.200 as a

00:38:30.700 primary

00:38:31.160 as a

00:38:32.000 hospitalist

00:38:32.520 probably a

00:38:33.000 dozen

00:38:33.320 and then

00:38:34.520 I've

00:38:35.060 consulted

00:38:35.460 with a lot

00:38:35.940 of people

00:38:36.280 all across

00:38:36.780 the United

00:38:37.080 States

00:38:37.440 that couldn't

00:38:37.940 get

00:38:38.120 hydroxychloroquine

00:38:39.140 friends of

00:38:39.660 friends that

00:38:40.060 would call me

00:38:40.580 and I did

00:38:40.940 some telemedicine

00:38:41.800 with them

00:38:42.200 maybe another

00:38:42.720 dozen

00:38:43.140 so two dozen

00:38:43.860 maybe

00:38:44.400 so you

00:38:46.160 know I

00:38:46.440 know that

00:38:46.920 it's

00:38:47.520 impossible

00:38:47.880 to do

00:38:48.240 a

00:38:48.360 controlled

00:38:48.760 study

00:38:49.140 or

00:38:49.260 anything

00:38:49.480 but is

00:38:49.900 there any

00:38:50.180 observation

00:38:50.980 just anecdotally

00:38:52.260 that you

00:38:52.580 would say

00:38:52.960 people need

00:38:54.600 to know

00:38:55.080 X

00:38:55.560 that something

00:38:56.300 works or

00:38:56.860 something

00:38:57.160 doesn't

00:38:57.560 work

00:38:57.820 is there

00:38:58.080 anything

00:38:58.620 that is

00:39:00.740 in your

00:39:01.060 mind

00:39:01.460 as my

00:39:02.040 god I

00:39:02.420 think we're

00:39:02.800 looking at

00:39:03.300 this wrong

00:39:03.800 anything

00:39:04.380 stick out

00:39:04.960 no I

00:39:06.100 think in

00:39:06.640 general we're

00:39:07.240 looking at

00:39:07.700 this correctly

00:39:08.520 I think the

00:39:09.240 social distancing

00:39:10.000 the flattened

00:39:10.620 curve has

00:39:11.060 helped

00:39:11.420 at least it

00:39:12.540 has in my

00:39:13.000 part of

00:39:13.300 the country

00:39:13.780 so far

00:39:14.880 but what

00:39:16.760 about the

00:39:17.100 meds

00:39:17.540 yeah so

00:39:18.860 hydroxychloroquine

00:39:19.800 anecdotally

00:39:20.600 I've talked to

00:39:21.620 many doctors

00:39:22.180 that have

00:39:22.500 used it

00:39:22.960 we're kind

00:39:23.480 of in

00:39:23.760 the red

00:39:24.320 belt

00:39:24.580 here and

00:39:25.080 so you

00:39:26.180 know this

00:39:26.380 drug's been

00:39:26.820 politicized

00:39:27.560 obviously

00:39:28.040 but a lot

00:39:29.400 of us are

00:39:29.740 using it

00:39:30.260 and we seem

00:39:30.920 to be having

00:39:31.340 good effects

00:39:31.940 if it's

00:39:32.580 used early

00:39:33.240 if you wait

00:39:33.840 until you're

00:39:34.320 on the

00:39:34.520 ventilator

00:39:34.960 forget it

00:39:35.860 you know

00:39:36.360 you're in

00:39:37.380 a different

00:39:37.740 part or

00:39:39.100 phase of

00:39:39.500 the disease

00:39:39.960 where not

00:39:41.120 much is

00:39:41.520 going to

00:39:41.720 help I

00:39:42.040 think

00:39:42.380 so have

00:39:43.460 you seen

00:39:43.960 anybody

00:39:44.380 yourself

00:39:45.160 who got

00:39:45.700 on hydroxychloroquine

00:39:46.980 early

00:39:47.400 who did

00:39:48.580 not have

00:39:49.160 let's say

00:39:49.780 well whether

00:39:50.780 or not

00:39:51.040 they had

00:39:51.400 other

00:39:51.720 comorbidities

00:39:52.660 or not

00:39:52.960 who went

00:39:53.600 on to

00:39:54.180 not make

00:39:54.780 it

00:39:55.080 no I

00:39:58.820 have not

00:39:59.280 I've only

00:40:01.280 had one

00:40:01.740 patient

00:40:02.120 die of

00:40:02.600 this

00:40:02.900 and he

00:40:04.240 was in

00:40:04.560 very poor

00:40:04.980 health

00:40:05.280 and quite

00:40:06.140 frankly we

00:40:06.680 didn't put

00:40:07.200 him on

00:40:07.540 the drug

00:40:08.820 because at

00:40:09.320 first we

00:40:09.960 didn't think

00:40:10.640 he had it

00:40:11.240 he presented

00:40:11.900 differently

00:40:12.520 he didn't

00:40:13.060 appear to be

00:40:13.600 a coronavirus

00:40:14.100 patient

00:40:14.600 so

00:40:14.940 no

00:40:16.900 I wanted

00:40:18.260 to address

00:40:18.760 one thing

00:40:19.180 that you

00:40:19.420 said earlier

00:40:19.980 or you're

00:40:20.500 talking about

00:40:21.160 when it

00:40:22.060 comes to

00:40:22.720 putting

00:40:23.660 patients on

00:40:24.440 ventilators

00:40:25.080 and reimbursement

00:40:26.240 so

00:40:27.200 there's two

00:40:28.300 areas of

00:40:28.860 reimbursement

00:40:29.500 that occur

00:40:30.540 in a

00:40:31.240 hospitalized

00:40:31.640 patient

00:40:32.200 you have

00:40:32.540 what they

00:40:32.800 call

00:40:32.980 E&M

00:40:33.460 coding

00:40:33.860 which is

00:40:34.960 the

00:40:35.100 physician's

00:40:35.740 fee

00:40:35.920 and that

00:40:36.360 is a

00:40:36.640 very

00:40:36.960 small

00:40:37.620 variance

00:40:38.060 and it

00:40:38.440 absolutely

00:40:38.880 has nothing

00:40:39.440 to do

00:40:39.840 with whether

00:40:40.200 or not

00:40:40.480 we

00:40:40.700 intubate

00:40:41.300 a patient

00:40:41.720 what

00:40:42.080 you're

00:40:42.580 addressing

00:40:43.000 is the

00:40:43.500 hospital

00:40:43.920 fee

00:40:44.300 which is

00:40:45.680 based on

00:40:46.380 what they

00:40:46.660 call a

00:40:46.960 DRG

00:40:47.580 or ICD-9

00:40:48.440 coding

00:40:48.740 or 10

00:40:49.080 coding

00:40:49.360 now

00:40:49.640 and

00:40:52.100 yes

00:40:52.860 that fee

00:40:53.360 goes

00:40:53.700 up

00:40:54.300 dramatically

00:40:55.000 but the

00:40:55.540 physician

00:40:56.000 does not

00:40:56.520 participate

00:40:57.020 in that

00:40:57.560 reimbursement

00:40:58.480 at least

00:40:59.780 not in most

00:41:00.440 areas

00:41:01.160 there may

00:41:02.000 be some

00:41:02.420 models

00:41:02.760 where doctors

00:41:03.460 get a

00:41:04.300 kickback

00:41:04.740 but in

00:41:05.400 most places

00:41:05.900 that's

00:41:06.220 illegal

00:41:06.620 so

00:41:07.900 and when

00:41:08.760 you put

00:41:09.100 a patient

00:41:09.520 on a

00:41:10.080 ventilator

00:41:10.520 it probably

00:41:11.380 costs the

00:41:12.220 hospital

00:41:12.700 more money

00:41:13.680 than they're

00:41:14.060 getting

00:41:14.300 reimbursed

00:41:14.860 had they

00:41:15.400 avoided

00:41:15.860 it to

00:41:16.220 begin

00:41:16.500 with

00:41:16.840 so

00:41:17.380 yes

00:41:18.100 there is

00:41:18.600 what I

00:41:19.360 think

00:41:19.520 it's

00:41:19.640 about

00:41:19.820 three

00:41:20.080 times

00:41:20.560 the

00:41:20.800 dollar

00:41:21.060 amount

00:41:21.360 that

00:41:21.520 the

00:41:21.780 hospital

00:41:22.120 gets

00:41:22.560 but

00:41:23.180 you're

00:41:23.360 probably

00:41:23.620 spending

00:41:24.000 more than

00:41:24.380 three times

00:41:24.960 that

00:41:25.140 let me

00:41:26.560 ask you

00:41:26.880 this

00:41:27.140 do you

00:41:28.340 have a

00:41:28.880 sort of

00:41:29.240 a

00:41:29.400 checklist

00:41:29.980 that says

00:41:30.740 when you

00:41:31.180 can and

00:41:31.700 cannot use

00:41:32.240 a ventilator

00:41:32.980 to keep

00:41:33.640 you out of

00:41:34.060 trouble

00:41:34.340 in other

00:41:34.740 words

00:41:35.040 if you

00:41:36.320 do it

00:41:36.660 according

00:41:37.460 to these

00:41:38.020 criteria

00:41:38.560 you're

00:41:38.960 always

00:41:39.180 going to

00:41:39.380 be okay

00:41:39.900 even if

00:41:40.320 things

00:41:40.560 go wrong

00:41:41.140 anything

00:41:41.760 like that

00:41:42.560 yeah

00:41:43.200 I would

00:41:43.620 say

00:41:43.880 it's not

00:41:44.500 an exact

00:41:45.540 checklist

00:41:46.100 but yes

00:41:46.620 the idea

00:41:47.360 the way

00:41:47.880 you're thinking

00:41:48.220 about it

00:41:48.560 is correct

00:41:49.160 so

00:41:49.980 well

00:41:50.280 hold on

00:41:50.600 let me

00:41:51.540 finish the

00:41:51.940 thought

00:41:52.140 then

00:41:52.320 so if

00:41:53.120 that's

00:41:53.440 correct

00:41:54.200 then a

00:41:55.140 doctor

00:41:55.540 who

00:41:55.820 suspected

00:41:56.520 that maybe

00:41:57.560 the

00:41:57.800 ventilator

00:41:58.460 might not

00:41:59.560 be helping

00:42:00.120 as much

00:42:00.540 as it's

00:42:00.880 hurting

00:42:01.180 would still

00:42:02.460 be

00:42:02.840 an easier

00:42:03.740 path

00:42:04.180 for them

00:42:04.520 to follow

00:42:04.920 the

00:42:05.140 checklist

00:42:05.480 if it's

00:42:06.180 a close

00:42:06.560 call

00:42:06.880 wouldn't

00:42:07.120 you say

00:42:07.420 yeah

00:42:08.280 I think

00:42:08.880 so

00:42:09.220 but this

00:42:10.200 is evolving

00:42:10.820 so rapidly

00:42:11.580 there's a guy

00:42:12.100 by the name

00:42:12.500 of Scott

00:42:12.920 Weingart

00:42:13.480 at Stony Brook

00:42:14.600 Hospital

00:42:15.020 that's really

00:42:16.020 on the

00:42:16.900 cutting edge

00:42:17.340 of this

00:42:17.700 and what

00:42:18.940 we're finding

00:42:19.400 out is what

00:42:20.040 you were saying

00:42:20.440 earlier

00:42:20.780 it appears

00:42:21.640 that when

00:42:22.420 we put

00:42:22.920 people on

00:42:23.720 ventilators

00:42:24.340 it tends

00:42:25.700 to accelerate

00:42:26.420 the process

00:42:26.940 you want to

00:42:27.660 delay that

00:42:28.180 as long

00:42:28.940 as possible

00:42:29.520 and that

00:42:30.520 knowledge

00:42:30.880 is just

00:42:31.500 now

00:42:31.840 getting to

00:42:32.500 circulate

00:42:32.980 around

00:42:33.400 most of

00:42:34.420 guys like

00:42:35.420 me

00:42:35.680 in rural

00:42:36.560 communities

00:42:37.080 the old

00:42:38.220 way of

00:42:38.540 thinking

00:42:38.740 was

00:42:39.180 if you

00:42:39.880 come in

00:42:40.360 your

00:42:40.540 sats

00:42:40.980 are low

00:42:41.480 you look

00:42:41.980 like crap

00:42:42.480 you put

00:42:42.880 them on

00:42:43.120 the tube

00:42:43.560 have

00:42:44.080 you tried

00:42:45.320 the nose

00:42:46.380 cannulas

00:42:47.160 for the

00:42:48.120 oxygen

00:42:48.500 yes

00:42:49.080 we call

00:42:49.860 it high

00:42:50.100 flow

00:42:50.280 oxygen

00:42:50.700 and that's

00:42:52.100 what we use

00:42:52.700 primarily

00:42:53.160 now

00:42:53.740 in fact

00:42:55.200 I've actually

00:42:56.700 proned

00:42:57.180 patients

00:42:57.620 without being

00:42:58.200 on a

00:42:58.440 ventilator

00:42:58.800 we used

00:42:59.220 to only

00:43:00.140 prone

00:43:00.480 patients

00:43:00.880 tell people

00:43:02.860 what that

00:43:03.840 means

00:43:04.100 to prone

00:43:04.560 them

00:43:04.760 to put

00:43:05.800 them on

00:43:06.020 their

00:43:06.140 stomach

00:43:06.440 so most

00:43:07.800 of the

00:43:08.020 volume

00:43:08.300 of your

00:43:08.600 lung

00:43:09.020 is

00:43:09.480 on

00:43:10.140 the

00:43:10.280 back

00:43:10.520 side

00:43:10.720 of

00:43:10.840 your

00:43:10.960 lung

00:43:11.280 and

00:43:11.580 if

00:43:11.700 you're

00:43:11.800 laying

00:43:12.100 on

00:43:12.280 your

00:43:12.400 back

00:43:12.720 that

00:43:13.160 part

00:43:13.420 fills

00:43:13.700 up

00:43:13.880 with

00:43:14.020 fluid

00:43:14.340 and

00:43:14.540 you

00:43:14.640 don't

00:43:14.780 get

00:43:14.940 good

00:43:15.120 oxygen

00:43:15.440 transfer

00:43:15.940 by

00:43:16.660 flipping

00:43:17.080 you

00:43:17.320 over

00:43:17.660 the

00:43:18.620 dynamics

00:43:19.080 of

00:43:19.240 the

00:43:19.340 lung

00:43:19.540 become

00:43:20.000 such

00:43:20.400 that

00:43:20.700 you

00:43:20.880 get

00:43:21.080 better

00:43:21.320 oxygenation

00:43:22.080 and

00:43:22.500 we

00:43:22.700 only

00:43:22.900 used

00:43:23.100 to

00:43:23.200 do

00:43:23.360 that

00:43:23.580 when

00:43:23.760 a

00:43:23.860 patient

00:43:24.120 was

00:43:24.380 like

00:43:24.600 far

00:43:24.900 gone

00:43:25.300 on

00:43:25.620 the

00:43:25.760 tube

00:43:26.120 last

00:43:26.900 ditch

00:43:27.140 effort

00:43:27.440 we

00:43:27.660 turned

00:43:27.880 them

00:43:28.000 over

00:43:28.180 in

00:43:28.340 the

00:43:28.440 bed

00:43:28.660 it's

00:43:28.780 a

00:43:30.940 real

00:43:31.040 pain

00:43:31.240 in

00:43:31.340 the

00:43:33.240 ventilator

00:43:33.800 they're

00:43:34.000 just

00:43:34.140 on

00:43:34.300 nasal

00:43:34.560 prong

00:43:34.840 cannula

00:43:35.320 and

00:43:36.860 we're

00:43:37.460 having

00:43:37.640 dramatic

00:43:38.400 responses

00:43:39.160 to that

00:43:39.500 they

00:43:39.680 actually

00:43:39.980 improve

00:43:40.340 quickly

00:43:40.720 it's

00:43:41.140 a

00:43:41.680 weird

00:43:41.880 thing

00:43:42.120 to see

00:43:42.440 a

00:43:42.600 patient

00:43:42.860 laying

00:43:43.180 on

00:43:43.340 their

00:43:43.480 belly

00:43:43.800 in

00:43:44.380 the

00:43:44.500 ICU

00:43:44.880 without

00:43:45.320 a

00:43:45.600 tube

00:43:45.820 down

00:43:46.040 their

00:43:46.180 throat

00:43:46.420 but

00:43:46.640 we're

00:43:46.860 seeing

00:43:47.100 that

00:43:47.260 more

00:43:47.440 and

00:43:47.540 more

00:43:47.740 do

00:43:48.400 you

00:43:48.580 think

00:43:49.160 that

00:43:50.340 maybe

00:43:50.700 because

00:43:51.040 it

00:43:51.600 does

00:43:51.840 seem

00:43:52.060 that

00:43:52.260 the

00:43:52.500 death

00:43:53.100 rate

00:43:53.320 is

00:43:53.500 dropping

00:43:53.900 quite

00:43:54.600 nicely

00:43:55.060 at

00:43:56.060 least

00:43:56.200 I

00:43:56.340 think

00:43:56.520 it

00:43:58.780 lockdown

00:43:59.140 slowly

00:44:00.260 ending

00:44:00.560 but

00:44:01.240 do

00:44:01.400 you

00:44:01.500 think

00:44:01.680 there

00:44:01.840 was

00:44:01.960 anything

00:44:02.320 that

00:44:02.800 the

00:44:03.260 doctors

00:44:04.720 were

00:44:05.040 collectively

00:44:05.660 doing

00:44:06.060 better

00:44:06.480 that

00:44:07.420 made

00:44:07.640 the

00:44:07.820 death

00:44:08.020 rate

00:44:08.220 go

00:44:08.400 down

00:44:08.620 in

00:44:08.740 other

00:44:08.880 words

00:44:09.020 did

00:44:09.140 they

00:44:09.240 change

00:44:09.560 your

00:44:09.680 procedure

00:44:10.180 medication

00:44:10.800 learn

00:44:12.000 something

00:44:12.420 they

00:44:12.600 didn't

00:44:12.820 know

00:44:13.140 because

00:44:13.380 this

00:44:13.580 whole

00:44:14.120 prone

00:44:14.520 thing

00:44:14.920 was a

00:44:16.060 pretty

00:44:16.200 big

00:44:16.460 deal

00:44:16.720 I

00:44:16.880 understand

00:44:17.220 but

00:44:17.500 I'm

00:44:17.620 wondering

00:44:17.840 if

00:44:18.060 you

00:44:18.160 think

00:44:18.420 there

00:44:19.020 was

00:44:19.120 any

00:44:19.320 one

00:44:19.580 thing

00:44:19.920 or

00:44:20.100 things

00:44:20.660 which

00:44:21.500 dramatically

00:44:22.300 changed

00:44:22.880 the

00:44:23.080 death

00:44:23.340 rate

00:44:23.660 well

00:44:24.140 it

00:44:24.580 may be

00:44:25.980 early

00:44:26.240 to say

00:44:26.520 but

00:44:26.680 if

00:44:27.240 I

00:44:27.360 had

00:44:27.580 to

00:44:27.860 surmise

00:44:28.360 yes

00:44:28.980 and

00:44:29.320 it

00:44:29.440 would

00:44:29.560 be

00:44:29.820 that

00:44:30.260 delaying

00:44:32.040 intubation

00:44:32.700 and putting

00:44:33.180 a person

00:44:33.560 on a

00:44:33.860 ventilator

00:44:34.400 seems

00:44:35.260 to be

00:44:35.800 the best

00:44:36.580 choice

00:44:37.080 and

00:44:38.000 is

00:44:38.360 probably

00:44:38.920 saving

00:44:39.400 more

00:44:39.620 lives

00:44:40.040 so

00:44:40.340 meaning

00:44:40.700 we've

00:44:41.360 always

00:44:41.620 known

00:44:42.060 that

00:44:42.500 putting

00:44:42.920 a person

00:44:43.280 on a

00:44:43.520 ventilator

00:44:43.980 across

00:44:44.500 the board

00:44:44.960 increases

00:44:45.460 mortality

00:44:45.980 but

00:44:47.460 in this

00:44:48.100 particular

00:44:48.600 wait

00:44:48.880 wait

00:44:49.080 wait

00:44:49.240 but

00:44:49.600 it

00:44:49.960 can't

00:44:50.960 increase

00:44:51.500 mortality

00:44:52.040 in general

00:44:52.660 or it

00:44:53.040 wouldn't

00:44:53.240 be used

00:44:53.820 well

00:44:55.800 it

00:44:56.780 depends

00:44:57.100 on how

00:44:57.340 you

00:44:57.440 compare

00:44:57.700 the

00:44:57.880 patients

00:44:58.280 so

00:44:58.480 you

00:44:58.620 know

00:44:58.760 how

00:44:59.120 statistics

00:44:59.580 are

00:44:59.960 but

00:45:00.420 wait

00:45:00.680 is

00:45:01.860 this

00:45:02.040 a

00:45:02.200 cause

00:45:02.440 and

00:45:02.560 effect

00:45:02.800 thing

00:45:03.040 because

00:45:03.240 you

00:45:03.400 only

00:45:03.900 put

00:45:04.120 the

00:45:04.280 ventilator

00:45:04.700 in the

00:45:04.920 people

00:45:05.180 who

00:45:05.420 are

00:45:05.600 you

00:45:06.000 know

00:45:06.140 it's

00:45:06.400 just

00:45:06.540 a

00:45:06.700 long

00:45:06.940 shot

00:45:07.160 anyway

00:45:07.440 right

00:45:07.720 you're

00:45:08.280 correct

00:45:08.800 but

00:45:09.220 there's

00:45:09.580 some

00:45:09.740 studies

00:45:10.020 out

00:45:10.220 there

00:45:10.360 that

00:45:10.500 suggest

00:45:10.980 that

00:45:11.220 if

00:45:11.940 you

00:45:12.060 can

00:45:12.240 minimize

00:45:12.660 the

00:45:12.880 time

00:45:13.180 on

00:45:13.340 a

00:45:13.460 ventilator

00:45:13.900 or

00:45:14.160 delay

00:45:14.520 going

00:45:14.840 on

00:45:15.080 to

00:45:15.240 it

00:45:15.360 in

00:45:15.480 some

00:45:15.680 cases

00:45:16.220 mortality

00:45:17.040 decreases

00:45:17.780 got

00:45:18.520 it

00:45:18.800 okay

00:45:19.280 but

00:45:20.340 with

00:45:20.560 this

00:45:20.780 virus

00:45:21.180 it

00:45:21.460 seems

00:45:21.760 to

00:45:21.940 be

00:45:22.180 that

00:45:22.540 you

00:45:23.300 know

00:45:23.460 you

00:45:23.700 only

00:45:24.060 want

00:45:24.240 to

00:45:24.320 put

00:45:24.460 somebody

00:45:24.740 on

00:45:24.900 the

00:45:25.000 ventilator

00:45:25.420 when

00:45:25.660 you

00:45:25.760 have

00:45:25.980 absolutely

00:45:26.500 no

00:45:26.720 other

00:45:26.900 option

00:45:27.320 and

00:45:28.280 even

00:45:28.620 those

00:45:28.880 patients

00:45:29.240 do

00:45:29.440 pretty

00:45:29.680 poorly

00:45:30.060 but

00:45:30.760 it

00:45:31.000 seems

00:45:31.260 to

00:45:31.440 accelerate

00:45:31.840 death

00:45:32.340 what

00:45:33.060 we're

00:45:33.220 seeing

00:45:33.600 if

00:45:34.660 you

00:45:35.060 put

00:45:35.260 them

00:45:35.360 on

00:45:35.560 early

00:45:35.920 like

00:45:36.160 we

00:45:36.340 used

00:45:36.540 to

00:45:36.700 for

00:45:36.920 other

00:45:37.200 conditions

00:45:37.720 you

00:45:38.060 might

00:45:38.260 actually

00:45:38.540 make

00:45:38.740 things

00:45:38.980 worse

00:45:39.400 and

00:45:39.780 so

00:45:39.960 I

00:45:40.120 think

00:45:40.380 that

00:45:40.600 may

00:45:40.800 be

00:45:40.960 saving

00:45:41.200 lives

00:45:41.600 the

00:45:41.860 knowledge

00:45:42.340 that's

00:45:42.660 getting

00:45:42.880 out

00:45:43.100 there

00:45:43.240 now

00:45:43.580 a lot

00:45:44.720 from what

00:45:45.200 Scott Weingart

00:45:46.340 is doing

00:45:46.720 in Stony Brook

00:45:47.400 is really

00:45:48.000 getting around

00:45:48.380 the nation

00:45:48.840 and we're

00:45:49.200 starting to

00:45:49.540 follow it

00:45:49.940 so

00:45:50.240 I've got

00:45:51.100 to ask

00:45:51.380 you about

00:45:51.640 vitamin D

00:45:52.340 we know

00:45:54.560 for example

00:45:55.080 I have to

00:45:56.380 watch out

00:45:56.700 for confirmation

00:45:57.460 versus

00:45:57.940 something that

00:45:58.860 actually makes

00:45:59.360 sense

00:45:59.620 so my

00:46:00.400 confirmation

00:46:00.860 bias

00:46:01.460 looks like

00:46:03.260 this

00:46:03.560 that

00:46:04.620 we know

00:46:05.060 vitamin D

00:46:05.660 is good

00:46:06.320 for your

00:46:06.600 immune

00:46:06.820 system

00:46:07.180 so it

00:46:07.540 makes

00:46:07.720 sense

00:46:08.000 it could

00:46:08.260 have

00:46:08.420 some

00:46:08.740 effect

00:46:09.420 and

00:46:10.620 if

00:46:11.320 we

00:46:11.680 observe

00:46:12.380 that

00:46:12.660 old

00:46:12.960 people

00:46:13.300 are

00:46:13.540 having

00:46:13.760 a

00:46:13.880 bad

00:46:14.060 time

00:46:14.360 well

00:46:14.600 that

00:46:14.800 makes

00:46:14.980 sense

00:46:15.200 because

00:46:15.400 they're

00:46:15.560 old

00:46:15.740 but

00:46:15.900 they

00:46:16.040 also

00:46:16.260 don't

00:46:16.680 get

00:46:16.820 out

00:46:16.960 as

00:46:17.100 much

00:46:17.320 sun

00:46:17.800 we've

00:46:19.680 heard

00:46:19.820 that

00:46:19.960 the

00:46:20.100 African

00:46:20.420 American

00:46:20.800 community

00:46:21.340 is

00:46:21.520 getting

00:46:21.760 hit

00:46:22.540 hard

00:46:23.000 they have

00:46:23.660 more

00:46:23.900 trouble

00:46:24.280 processing

00:46:25.100 vitamin

00:46:25.560 D

00:46:25.800 as I

00:46:26.220 understand

00:46:26.960 it

00:46:27.360 kids

00:46:28.480 are

00:46:28.640 doing

00:46:28.840 well

00:46:29.240 they

00:46:29.540 probably

00:46:30.280 get

00:46:30.480 more

00:46:30.620 sun

00:46:30.880 than

00:46:31.020 anybody

00:46:31.400 and

00:46:31.700 wear

00:46:32.140 less

00:46:32.480 sunscreen

00:46:33.080 even

00:46:33.560 though

00:46:33.740 they

00:46:33.880 shouldn't

00:46:34.160 maybe

00:46:34.400 so

00:46:35.360 there

00:46:36.000 seems

00:46:36.260 to

00:46:36.400 be

00:46:40.620 the

00:46:40.980 places

00:46:41.320 that

00:46:41.660 you

00:46:41.820 think

00:46:42.120 wouldn't

00:46:42.440 be

00:46:42.600 getting

00:46:42.880 much

00:46:43.300 such

00:46:43.720 as

00:46:43.900 the

00:46:44.060 Scandinavian

00:46:44.660 countries

00:46:45.140 they

00:46:45.780 know

00:46:46.000 they

00:46:46.160 don't

00:46:46.340 get

00:46:46.520 enough

00:46:46.760 so

00:46:46.960 they're

00:46:47.120 eating

00:46:47.320 cod

00:46:47.640 oil

00:46:47.880 and

00:46:48.120 fish

00:46:48.380 and

00:46:48.560 stuff

00:46:48.840 so

00:46:49.540 there's

00:46:49.940 an

00:46:50.040 almost

00:46:50.360 it's

00:46:51.220 alleged

00:46:51.560 there's

00:46:51.840 an

00:46:51.960 almost

00:46:52.180 perfect

00:46:52.560 correlation

00:46:53.140 between

00:46:54.080 how much

00:46:54.520 vitamin

00:46:55.000 D

00:46:55.260 you're

00:46:55.460 getting

00:46:55.760 and

00:46:56.400 how

00:46:56.900 much

00:46:57.100 trouble

00:46:57.400 you're

00:46:57.640 getting

00:46:57.820 but

00:46:58.540 confirmation

00:47:00.180 bias

00:47:00.600 would get

00:47:00.940 you to

00:47:01.100 the same

00:47:01.360 place

00:47:01.760 right

00:47:02.040 so

00:47:02.240 it

00:47:02.340 doesn't

00:47:02.520 mean

00:47:02.640 it's

00:47:02.800 true

00:47:03.100 it

00:47:03.720 just

00:47:03.840 means

00:47:10.620 correlation

00:47:11.060 does not

00:47:11.840 equal

00:47:12.100 causation

00:47:12.920 and

00:47:13.500 so

00:47:14.960 you can't

00:47:15.660 say

00:47:15.940 with any

00:47:16.380 certainty

00:47:16.780 from what

00:47:17.220 we're

00:47:17.380 seeing

00:47:17.680 with

00:47:17.960 this

00:47:18.340 type

00:47:18.820 of

00:47:18.940 studies

00:47:19.220 that

00:47:19.380 are

00:47:19.480 out

00:47:19.640 there

00:47:19.760 now

00:47:20.120 that

00:47:21.160 having

00:47:21.720 a good

00:47:22.100 vitamin

00:47:22.420 D

00:47:22.680 level

00:47:23.020 is

00:47:23.340 protective

00:47:23.840 versus

00:47:24.620 you know

00:47:25.460 the opposite

00:47:25.960 for

00:47:27.040 precisely

00:47:27.580 that

00:47:27.920 it's

00:47:28.280 just

00:47:28.620 a

00:47:28.800 correlation

00:47:29.280 there

00:47:29.600 could

00:47:29.740 be

00:47:29.880 a

00:47:30.160 thousand

00:47:30.560 other

00:47:30.800 factors

00:47:31.160 involved

00:47:31.660 all right

00:47:32.180 so

00:47:32.440 I agree

00:47:33.260 on

00:47:33.440 that

00:47:34.000 but

00:47:35.360 could

00:47:36.040 you

00:47:36.200 make

00:47:36.460 use

00:47:36.820 of

00:47:37.000 it

00:47:37.260 this

00:47:39.080 way

00:47:39.380 if

00:47:39.800 you

00:47:39.940 found

00:47:40.180 that

00:47:40.320 the

00:47:40.620 correlation

00:47:41.020 held

00:47:41.480 and

00:47:42.200 you

00:47:42.360 wouldn't

00:47:42.820 know

00:47:42.980 which

00:47:43.160 way

00:47:43.340 it

00:47:43.440 went

00:47:43.740 could

00:47:44.400 be

00:47:44.560 the

00:47:44.760 low

00:47:45.260 vitamin

00:47:45.600 D

00:47:45.840 as

00:47:46.080 a

00:47:46.200 marker

00:47:46.520 for

00:47:46.960 having

00:47:47.680 a

00:47:48.000 bad

00:47:48.260 immunity

00:47:48.680 to

00:47:48.880 begin

00:47:49.080 with

00:47:49.300 so

00:47:49.900 suppose

00:47:50.320 you

00:47:50.520 could

00:47:50.660 easily

00:47:50.960 test

00:47:51.280 for

00:47:51.440 vitamin

00:47:51.780 D

00:47:52.080 could

00:47:52.420 you

00:47:52.540 then

00:47:52.760 say

00:47:52.940 look

00:47:53.240 you

00:47:54.180 folks

00:47:54.540 who

00:47:54.680 have

00:47:54.840 boosted

00:47:55.240 your

00:47:55.380 vitamin

00:47:55.720 D

00:47:56.000 you're

00:47:56.780 probably

00:47:57.020 going

00:47:57.200 to be

00:47:57.400 in

00:47:57.540 better

00:47:57.760 shape

00:47:58.260 no

00:48:00.140 if

00:48:00.560 you

00:48:00.680 couldn't

00:48:00.960 boost

00:48:02.160 your

00:48:02.340 vitamin

00:48:02.640 D

00:48:02.900 would

00:48:03.180 mean

00:48:03.380 you're

00:48:03.640 probably

00:48:03.940 in

00:48:04.140 such

00:48:04.340 bad

00:48:04.620 shape

00:48:10.620 question

00:48:11.120 I

00:48:11.620 am

00:48:12.240 recommending

00:48:12.800 people

00:48:13.520 get

00:48:14.140 on

00:48:14.360 a

00:48:14.620 reasonable

00:48:15.860 dose

00:48:16.340 of

00:48:16.520 vitamin

00:48:16.800 D

00:48:17.060 if

00:48:17.240 they're

00:48:17.360 not

00:48:17.600 taking

00:48:18.000 it

00:48:18.260 whether

00:48:18.600 or

00:48:18.800 not

00:48:18.980 they

00:48:19.120 know

00:48:19.280 their

00:48:19.400 levels

00:48:19.800 are

00:48:20.540 high

00:48:20.840 or low

00:48:21.140 because

00:48:21.420 it's

00:48:21.840 harmless

00:48:22.300 to begin

00:48:22.980 with

00:48:23.300 it's

00:48:23.640 cheap

00:48:24.120 and

00:48:24.960 a lot

00:48:25.540 of

00:48:25.660 people

00:48:25.860 are

00:48:26.020 deficient

00:48:26.440 anyways

00:48:27.000 and

00:48:27.240 it's

00:48:27.760 been

00:48:27.920 proven

00:48:28.320 that

00:48:28.600 there's

00:48:28.840 a

00:48:29.080 multitude

00:48:29.480 of

00:48:29.780 other

00:48:30.100 conditions

00:48:30.700 that

00:48:31.240 you

00:48:32.380 improve

00:48:33.180 with

00:48:33.480 improving

00:48:34.760 your

00:48:34.940 vitamin

00:48:35.160 D

00:48:35.380 level

00:48:35.680 so

00:48:35.940 I

00:48:36.180 think

00:48:36.440 it's

00:48:36.960 one

00:48:37.100 of

00:48:37.200 these

00:48:37.420 there

00:48:37.960 may

00:48:38.080 not

00:48:38.200 be

00:48:38.320 a

00:48:38.460 study

00:48:38.720 but

00:48:38.880 like

00:48:39.080 you

00:48:39.220 alluded

00:48:39.500 to

00:48:39.700 earlier

00:48:40.140 it's

00:48:40.780 a

00:48:40.900 decision

00:48:41.300 making

00:48:41.660 process

00:48:42.640 and

00:48:43.160 it

00:48:43.400 just

00:48:43.600 makes

00:48:43.940 sense

00:48:44.380 to

00:48:44.660 take

00:48:44.960 vitamin

00:48:45.340 D

00:48:45.620 so

00:48:46.280 that's

00:48:46.580 where

00:48:46.760 I'm

00:48:47.040 at

00:48:47.220 with

00:48:47.440 it

00:48:47.580 maybe

00:48:47.860 I'm

00:48:48.100 wrong

00:48:48.400 maybe

00:48:48.680 people

00:48:49.040 criticize

00:48:49.420 me

00:48:49.720 for

00:48:49.840 that

00:48:50.060 but

00:48:50.280 I'm

00:48:50.580 telling

00:48:50.760 people

00:48:51.040 to

00:48:51.220 take

00:48:51.420 about

00:48:51.640 10,000

00:48:52.200 units

00:48:52.500 a

00:48:52.660 day

00:48:52.860 and

00:48:53.700 go on

00:48:55.060 with

00:48:55.180 life

00:48:55.380 if

00:48:55.500 they

00:48:55.600 can

00:48:55.800 so

00:48:56.120 all

00:48:57.780 right

00:48:57.920 that sounds

00:48:58.400 like a

00:48:59.120 good

00:48:59.300 risk

00:48:59.720 reward

00:49:00.140 it is

00:49:00.500 possible

00:49:00.900 to

00:49:01.120 don't

00:49:04.320 eat

00:49:04.540 polar

00:49:05.160 bear

00:49:05.380 liver

00:49:05.720 that's

00:49:08.240 the best

00:49:08.680 advice

00:49:09.060 I've

00:49:09.280 had

00:49:09.400 today

00:49:09.720 no

00:49:11.260 polar

00:49:11.980 bear

00:49:12.260 liver

00:49:12.680 and

00:49:13.080 when

00:49:13.200 you

00:49:13.320 talk

00:49:13.560 to

00:49:13.720 your

00:49:13.940 doctor

00:49:14.400 friends

00:49:14.880 and

00:49:15.180 nobody

00:49:16.340 is

00:49:16.600 watching

00:49:16.960 so

00:49:17.220 you

00:49:17.320 can

00:49:17.440 say

00:49:17.600 anything

00:49:17.880 you

00:49:18.080 want

00:49:18.380 what

00:49:19.380 meds

00:49:20.440 do

00:49:20.800 they

00:49:21.060 think

00:49:21.500 are

00:49:21.900 the

00:49:22.300 killers

00:49:22.900 if

00:49:23.620 they

00:49:24.360 all

00:49:24.540 got

00:49:24.720 together

00:49:25.060 the

00:49:25.320 doctors

00:49:25.700 you

00:49:25.840 talked

00:49:26.080 to

00:49:26.240 and

00:49:26.380 made

00:49:26.540 a

00:49:26.680 bet

00:49:26.960 they

00:49:27.580 could

00:49:27.720 only

00:49:27.900 pick

00:49:28.180 one

00:49:28.680 therapeutic

00:49:29.880 or

00:49:30.560 it

00:49:30.640 could

00:49:31.120 see

00:49:31.280 if

00:49:31.480 you

00:49:31.560 know

00:49:31.680 something

00:49:31.940 there

00:49:32.160 which

00:49:33.100 one

00:49:33.300 would

00:49:33.440 they

00:49:33.560 bet

00:49:33.800 on

00:49:34.080 doesn't

00:49:34.600 mean

00:49:34.740 they're

00:49:34.920 right

00:49:35.140 but

00:49:35.320 what

00:49:35.500 do

00:49:35.740 you

00:49:35.780 think

00:49:35.920 they

00:49:36.040 would

00:49:36.160 bet

00:49:36.320 on

00:49:36.520 current

00:49:37.880 medicine

00:49:38.360 has

00:49:38.660 nothing

00:49:38.980 to do

00:49:39.340 with

00:49:39.480 coronavirus

00:49:39.960 no

00:49:43.000 the

00:49:43.180 question

00:49:43.500 is

00:49:43.840 what

00:49:44.240 medicine

00:49:44.740 would

00:49:45.080 they

00:49:45.260 bet

00:49:45.560 on

00:49:45.860 that

00:49:46.560 would

00:49:46.980 be

00:49:47.600 the

00:49:47.740 most

00:49:48.000 effective

00:49:48.500 if

00:49:48.920 anything

00:49:49.320 against

00:49:50.280 coronavirus

00:49:50.700 in other

00:49:51.260 words

00:49:51.440 would

00:49:51.580 they

00:49:51.700 go

00:49:51.840 with

00:49:51.960 hydroxychloroquine

00:49:53.600 remezivir

00:49:54.980 or whatever

00:49:55.360 yeah

00:49:55.620 I understand

00:49:56.200 well

00:49:56.600 so

00:49:58.180 I think

00:49:58.800 hydroxychloroquine

00:49:59.640 to be honest

00:50:00.500 with you

00:50:00.800 and remdesivir

00:50:01.660 I think

00:50:02.380 as you're

00:50:02.740 aware

00:50:03.060 the way

00:50:03.420 they

00:50:03.580 powered

00:50:03.880 that

00:50:04.100 study

00:50:04.420 didn't

00:50:04.800 really

00:50:05.060 look at

00:50:05.560 mortality

00:50:06.080 it looked

00:50:06.460 at

00:50:06.600 time

00:50:06.820 to cure

00:50:07.220 so

00:50:07.620 the

00:50:08.300 cure

00:50:08.480 is

00:50:08.640 way

00:50:08.840 out

00:50:09.040 on that

00:50:09.440 yeah

00:50:09.900 way

00:50:10.100 out

00:50:10.360 so

00:50:11.740 what

00:50:12.220 about

00:50:12.700 the

00:50:12.960 monoclonals

00:50:13.940 interesting

00:50:15.900 I understand

00:50:16.760 DARPA is

00:50:17.460 going to be

00:50:17.780 doing some

00:50:18.200 work with

00:50:18.740 it

00:50:18.920 and

00:50:19.320 you know

00:50:20.000 we're all

00:50:20.280 excited to

00:50:20.860 hear what's

00:50:21.200 going to

00:50:21.440 happen

00:50:21.700 with that

00:50:22.160 but

00:50:22.440 there's

00:50:23.020 just

00:50:23.240 we have

00:50:23.840 no

00:50:24.080 you know

00:50:24.460 the average

00:50:24.980 guy on

00:50:25.460 the street

00:50:26.120 like me

00:50:26.760 all we do

00:50:28.080 is read

00:50:28.380 about it

00:50:28.700 we have

00:50:28.920 no experience

00:50:29.480 with it

00:50:29.860 so

00:50:30.140 we're

00:50:30.860 excited

00:50:31.380 to hear

00:50:31.660 about it

00:50:32.060 so

00:50:32.300 here's

00:50:32.880 the question

00:50:33.300 I don't

00:50:34.340 know that

00:50:34.620 you would

00:50:34.860 answer this

00:50:36.160 but

00:50:36.440 just

00:50:36.960 for the

00:50:37.500 audience

00:50:37.860 it seems

00:50:39.560 to be

00:50:39.940 that if

00:50:40.340 you can

00:50:40.620 find

00:50:40.920 somebody

00:50:41.380 who's

00:50:41.820 you know

00:50:42.180 already

00:50:42.380 got the

00:50:42.720 antibodies

00:50:43.220 that the

00:50:44.500 hard way

00:50:45.000 to get

00:50:45.340 enough

00:50:45.620 of them

00:50:45.880 is to

00:50:46.180 take

00:50:46.420 them

00:50:46.600 from

00:50:46.860 each

00:50:47.100 individual

00:50:47.680 who can

00:50:48.460 give

00:50:48.660 you

00:50:48.780 a pint

00:50:49.140 of blood

00:50:49.520 that seems

00:50:49.920 like

00:50:50.220 hard to

00:50:51.080 scale

00:50:51.400 that up

00:50:51.940 but

00:50:52.660 if you

00:50:53.380 could clone

00:50:54.360 it

00:50:54.640 you could

00:50:55.440 scale it

00:50:55.980 faster

00:50:56.380 except

00:50:56.860 I don't

00:50:57.700 think we

00:50:58.060 have enough

00:50:58.460 cloning

00:50:58.980 resources

00:51:00.140 we know

00:51:00.640 how to

00:51:00.960 clone

00:51:01.240 but it's

00:51:01.740 not something

00:51:02.180 that scales

00:51:02.680 that easily

00:51:03.140 so the

00:51:03.800 question I

00:51:04.220 have is

00:51:04.580 who makes

00:51:05.280 those cloning

00:51:05.920 devices

00:51:06.460 who makes

00:51:07.700 the lab

00:51:08.960 equipment

00:51:09.420 that could

00:51:10.500 if the

00:51:11.820 federal

00:51:12.540 government

00:51:12.980 said

00:51:13.360 look guys

00:51:14.860 there's one

00:51:15.780 thing that

00:51:16.220 we're pretty

00:51:17.040 sure is going

00:51:17.740 to work

00:51:18.100 because would

00:51:18.580 you back

00:51:19.380 me on this

00:51:19.880 following statement

00:51:20.680 but tell me

00:51:21.660 if this is

00:51:22.120 too strong

00:51:22.720 it can't

00:51:24.000 be wrong

00:51:24.460 to put

00:51:24.980 antibodies

00:51:25.480 into

00:51:25.800 people

00:51:26.160 is that

00:51:27.100 too

00:51:27.260 strong

00:51:27.600 I don't

00:51:31.420 think it's

00:51:32.140 too terribly

00:51:32.800 strong

00:51:33.160 I mean

00:51:33.380 there's

00:51:33.580 going to

00:51:33.780 be a

00:51:34.080 couple

00:51:34.340 cases

00:51:34.760 obviously

00:51:35.440 outliers

00:51:36.180 but I

00:51:36.520 think in

00:51:36.860 general

00:51:37.120 it's probably

00:51:37.720 a good

00:51:38.020 idea

00:51:38.340 so if

00:51:40.380 we could

00:51:40.920 just put

00:51:41.360 a

00:51:41.580 let's

00:51:42.120 say

00:51:42.320 Manhattan

00:51:43.300 project

00:51:43.960 on whatever

00:51:44.720 this lab

00:51:45.300 equipment

00:51:45.640 is

00:51:46.000 so we

00:51:46.700 can scale

00:51:47.180 up enough

00:51:47.700 just take

00:51:48.180 the hardiest

00:51:49.060 antibodies

00:51:49.620 we can

00:51:50.140 and just

00:51:51.020 start making

00:51:51.600 this stuff

00:51:52.100 now

00:51:52.900 would it

00:51:53.560 have to

00:51:53.920 be

00:51:54.500 injected

00:51:55.420 or would

00:51:56.440 it be

00:51:56.680 a pill

00:51:57.260 intravenous

00:51:58.340 IVIG

00:51:59.080 is the

00:51:59.620 kind of

00:52:00.460 use

00:52:00.620 yeah

00:52:01.100 it's

00:52:02.100 kind of

00:52:02.540 a slow

00:52:02.960 infusion

00:52:03.460 so it

00:52:04.540 can't

00:52:04.820 so that

00:52:06.000 doesn't

00:52:06.280 scale

00:52:06.560 that well

00:52:07.100 either

00:52:07.320 you can't

00:52:07.740 just

00:52:07.900 inoculate

00:52:08.440 everybody

00:52:08.940 or use

00:52:09.780 it prophylactically

00:52:10.560 the doctors

00:52:11.120 with infusion

00:52:11.840 centers

00:52:12.220 would be

00:52:12.540 making the

00:52:12.980 killing

00:52:13.260 yeah

00:52:14.240 well you

00:52:14.980 could

00:52:15.160 but you

00:52:16.020 know

00:52:16.120 that's

00:52:16.340 another

00:52:16.540 thing

00:52:16.760 you

00:52:16.900 could

00:52:17.040 scale

00:52:17.340 up

00:52:17.580 right

00:52:17.800 sure

00:52:18.340 there

00:52:18.460 must

00:52:18.680 be

00:52:18.940 all

00:52:19.900 you

00:52:20.060 need

00:52:20.200 is

00:52:20.360 a

00:52:20.580 nurse

00:52:21.040 or a

00:52:21.440 phlebotanist

00:52:22.060 right

00:52:22.300 I've

00:52:22.740 been

00:52:22.880 looking

00:52:23.080 for a

00:52:23.400 reason

00:52:23.540 to get

00:52:23.820 in

00:52:23.900 that

00:52:24.020 business

00:52:24.400 there

00:52:25.960 you

00:52:26.060 go

00:52:26.300 all

00:52:27.040 right

00:52:27.180 well

00:52:27.820 this

00:52:28.180 this was

00:52:29.420 a great

00:52:30.060 call

00:52:30.460 thank you

00:52:31.380 so much

00:52:31.680 I'm

00:52:32.300 watching

00:52:32.820 the audience

00:52:33.340 comments

00:52:33.780 and they're

00:52:34.140 really happy

00:52:34.880 so thanks

00:52:35.980 for that

00:52:36.340 I wanted

00:52:37.120 to say

00:52:37.520 briefly

00:52:38.100 you are

00:52:39.480 one of my

00:52:40.160 heroes

00:52:40.540 and the

00:52:40.980 reason I

00:52:41.420 say that

00:52:41.840 is

00:52:42.160 is that

00:52:42.760 I know

00:52:43.260 that what

00:52:43.800 you do

00:52:44.260 has come

00:52:44.660 to a

00:52:45.000 personal

00:52:45.460 cost

00:52:45.900 to you

00:52:46.320 and I

00:52:47.320 think

00:52:47.460 that you're

00:52:47.740 doing it

00:52:48.040 for the

00:52:48.340 betterment

00:52:48.820 of humanity

00:52:49.260 I believe

00:52:49.840 that

00:52:50.160 and I

00:52:50.360 believe

00:52:50.520 you're

00:52:50.660 taking

00:52:50.860 a

00:52:51.000 personal

00:52:51.260 cost

00:52:51.700 and

00:52:51.960 kudos

00:52:52.920 to you

00:52:53.380 for that

00:52:53.720 I really

00:52:54.100 appreciate

00:52:54.460 that

00:52:54.780 thank you

00:52:55.660 I appreciate

00:52:56.480 that very

00:52:56.980 much

00:52:57.300 and yeah

00:52:57.720 I do

00:52:58.000 take it

00:52:58.340 personally

00:52:58.680 all right

00:53:00.260 thank you

00:53:00.860 thank you

00:53:01.360 Scott

00:53:01.620 bye

00:53:02.260 all right

00:53:04.540 I believe

00:53:09.400 that's enough

00:53:09.900 for today

00:53:10.820 and I will

00:53:11.760 talk to you

00:53:12.360 in the morning

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Episode 969 Scott Adams： I'm Here. Where Are You？

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