Episode 977 Scott Adams： Ego Management, SPOX Level Absurd, Talent Stacks and Fun
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Have you ever had one of those days where all the little things just don t seem to work right? Well, let me tell you what kind of day it s been. Do you have these days where every little thing doesn t work?
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Hey everybody. Come on in. Did you ever have one of those days when all the little stuff
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just doesn't seem to work right? Well, having one of those, but I'm going to be out of it
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soon. Watch this. If that printer makes a noise now. Print. Print. Well, let me tell you what
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kind of a day it's been. Do you have these days where every little thing doesn't work?
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I had this weird day where everything that was big and important worked really well today.
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So on all the big parts of my life, sort of a crazy good day. But every little thing didn't work.
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Every device didn't work. Didn't have a battery. The printer's not working. Neither computer's
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working. I'm trying to print out some notes. I was just having some popcorn with Christina.
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And, you know, it was like we popped this corn in the special little popper and I'm like
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really looking forward to it. And the popcorn goes on the floor. And I'm thinking, it's one of those
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days. But it won't last. Have you noticed that you get in those, you have those days when you are not
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relaxed? So watch this correlation. This will be the freakiest thing you've ever heard, right?
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Now, right now when you hear it, it won't be freaky when you first hear it, maybe.
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But eventually, you're going to have a moment when you think back to it. And it's going to go like
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this. When your environment is not conforming to you, you know, every little thing doesn't work,
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is out of place, is just off one, it's out of paper, the battery's gone, the car's out of gas,
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and it all hits at once. It always happens when you're in a certain frame of mind. And that frame
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of mind is if you're tense. When you're tense, everything goes wrong. Now, ask yourself this
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after you've watched it for a few years. This will take a few years to sink in. After you've watched
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it for a few years, ask yourself if you're making it happen. Now, when I say make it happen,
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I don't necessarily mean at the real level of reality, but maybe the bubble that you put
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around yourself can either be a happy one or not happy. Maybe you just always have the
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same amount of problems that you just don't notice. Have you ever noticed that? You have
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the same amount of problems, but sometimes they don't bother you. Sometimes you just put
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paper in the printer. Sometimes you just put gas in the car. Go on with your day. So ask
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yourself, how much of it are you bringing on yourself? All right, we've got a bunch of
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cool things to talk about. How many of you saw my obnoxious posting that I just did? Let's
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put something in front of this light. There we go. Much better. So I posted a picture of
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Snickers on Twitter, and there's more to the story. So that's the fun part. It'll lead into
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something else. So the picture shows me reaching down to pet Snickers. And you may have seen that
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there was sort of a big reaction to it. And of course, that was somewhat planned. So there
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were two elements of this picture, besides Snickers, who's popular. There are two elements
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of it that tell a story. One is that people quite rightly said, hey, are you really showing
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that because your arm looks muscular in the picture? And the answer is, yes. The second
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part of that is, hey, are you sort of humble bragging because you have an elevator in your
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house and you took the picture into the elevator? And the answer is, I didn't really think about
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that. That was just where the lighting was good. But I didn't think it was a problem.
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Now, here's what you want to learn from this. If you want to build a following on Twitter,
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or if you're in some creative world, or even if you're in the business world, the person
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who stands out is the one who gets all the attention. What are, and let me tie this to another
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point about ego. Now, knowing that I would be mocked for putting that there, was it worth
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it? Because I knew that people would say, hey, you, you arrogant, whatever. Are you just
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bragging because you were working out during the coronavirus? Now, since I knew that it would
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be that kind of reaction, and the trolls would be all over me, and they'd mock me, and they'd
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say bad things about, you know, my fiance, everything that actually happened. And of course, I knew
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that would happen. Why did I do it? So why did I do it if I knew I was going to get people
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worked up? And people would be like a little jealous that I have an elevator, and they might
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be, you know, you think you're so arrogant. And the answer is, the answer is because it
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works. It's a little bit of wrong. So Dr. Carmen Simon, I talk about her sometimes. She's
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an expert on memory. If you want somebody to remember you, or to remember your PowerPoint
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slides, or to remember anything about you, or to remember your product, to remember just
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anything, the only way to do that is novelty. And the best kind of novelty is when somebody
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processes something as a little bit wrong, but not so wrong that you have to do something
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about it. So when people saw that picture, it was very much designed so that when people
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say, this is bothering me a little bit, and I don't know why. I don't know that this was
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really appropriate for him to do that. Is he trying to make me think that he's showing
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the muscle, or is he trying to make me think that it's accidental? So I created a situation
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with this picture entirely intentionally, in which you would have many questions. And
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it just, you know, brings energy my way. Now, there are three people that I want you to
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consider, and I'm going to give you a strange thought. One is me, one is President Trump,
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and the other is Mike Cernovich. I like using Mike for lots of examples. He fits into lots
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of examples for some reason. And think about what, if you were to think of the three of
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us, what qualities would you imagine we have in common? Now, I'm not looking for compliments
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like blah, blah. I'm looking for a negative quality. What seemingly negative quality would
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be common to me, President Trump, and Mike Cernovich. Now, no positive qualities. Obnoxious. Good.
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You're going in the right direction. Ego. Arrogance. Brag a lot. Good. Abrasive. Bragging. Braggarts.
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Ego. Cocky. That's the word I was looking for. So all of those words are in that same general.
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All right. So I guess I shouldn't have been worried that you wouldn't know what I was talking
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about. I guess I didn't have to worry that you wouldn't know what we had in common. All
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right. Here's the, here's the kicker. I would propose to you that when you look at the three
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of us, or individually, and you say, there, there's a show off. There's somebody who has an ego
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problem. Or there's something wrong with their ego, or they need to feed their ego, or they
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have thin skin. I would suggest to you that it is exactly the opposite. And that what the
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three of us really have in common is we can do any fucking thing in the world right in front
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of you. And we don't care. That's what we have in common. And that is exactly the opposite
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of an ego. An ego would have prevented you from doing the picture I just talked about.
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Because you would have said to yourself, Oh, somebody is going to think I'm kind of a douche.
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Did that stop me? It did not. It did not. Because I wasn't worried about what anybody thought
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of me. Because it's not an ego thing. So I would say that Trump and Cernovich and I operate
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on almost an energy level, which is, if you can move energy where you want it, that's all
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you need it to do. If you're worried about the details, you're worried about the wrong stuff.
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And that when you see somebody who can embarrass themselves in front of you, time after time
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after time, do you think that Trump is worried about being embarrassed? I mean, he does more
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more things that bring him more scorn and criticism than anybody you've ever seen in your entire
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life. He seems to be able to brush it off. Now you say to yourself, but Scott, there is
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so much reporting that President Trump is thin skinned. And it really gets gets in his head.
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And when he gets criticized, he's really angry and stuff. Really? Who is it who's inside
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his head who knows that? Let me give you an alternate explanation for everything you see
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with Trump. He's competitive. Explains every observation. If you're competitive and you have
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a bad day, let's say the bad day is you had bad headlines. So the news didn't go your way.
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If you're simply competitive, how do you feel about it? Pretty worked up. You might swear,
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you might get angry, you might raise your game, it might be part of like building yourself up to
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perform better. But a competitor gets angry about being behind on the score. Is that ego?
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Well, is it ego to be competitive and say, all right, but this is the game. If we're all
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competitive, then you have capitalism. If we're all competitive, you have, you know, a democratic
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system. There's nothing wrong with being competitive. I even tell my, I even tell the leaders of other
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countries, you should be competitive, because I'm going to be competitive. So if you listen to
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the way Trump talks about competition, it's very clear that he sees things as competition,
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which is a very different model than my ego has been damaged. My God, I'm thin-skinned. I must lash
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out. That's just, that's just the CNN, MSNBC, you know, baloney story. So I would suggest to you
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that being able to take a great deal of criticism is sort of a superpower. And that I am fully aware
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that some, I don't know, large percentage of the people watching this just got really turned off
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by me. Does it matter? No. Because I would prefer, especially since this is an entertainment medium,
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that whatever energy that created, I prefer the energy. So few people loved it, right? I'll bet a
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few of you loved it when you heard me twist the ego thing around to just competition. Some of you
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said, oh, that's not for me. I don't get this guy. Totally good trade-off, because I'll always take the
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positive energy, let the negative energy go elsewhere. Let me talk about some people who are really getting
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the talent stack thing right lately. If you haven't watched, if you're not watching Dan Bongino this
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week, oh my God, you're missing the show. Oh, so Dan Bongino, of course, I would say one of the,
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one of, if not the most capable person for explaining everything about the, you know, the legalities and
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the ins and outs of the Obamagate, you know, Russia collusion, et cetera. But because you've,
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but because events have gone his way, it's especially good. And today, I saw it today. I don't know if,
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I think I ran today. I won't give away his latest thing, but he sounded discrepancy in this whole
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unmasking thing that you have to hear. Now, he doesn't yet have, nor does anybody, I think, have the,
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the direct evidence, like the thing. But man, he's so close. He's so close that he can see it and smell
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it. And he's sort of a predator. You know, I think some people are just predators. And because he's so
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close to his prey that he's been, you know, he's been basically, you know, stalking this prey for,
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what, three years or something. And you can see his eyes are gigantic because he's almost there.
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He's almost there. Anyway, what I want to say is, Dan Bongino impresses me on a whole bunch of levels.
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But the main one is that he's, he's, it's clear from just observation, I think you'll agree with this,
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that he's built a talent stack that's ridiculous. Because he isn't just, you know, good on TV. He's,
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you know, he's obviously into fitness and stuff. So it keeps his energy high. He knows how to, you know,
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be fit. It gives him charisma, gives him, gives him everything you need on TV. You know, you could
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obviously, you can see he's learning like politics. He's, he's added that on top of his analysis of,
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you know, police enforcement and how the government works and stuff. He's just watching and layering.
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He's just layering skill on top of skill. And you just see him doing it in real time. And I just go,
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well, that's exactly how you do it. Like, if you want to be something in this world,
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and I take it he does, you say to yourself, what's it cost? I've told you this before,
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the best advice you'll ever get, something I heard from some rich guy, I can't remember his name.
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He said that if you want to be successful, find out the price, and then pay it.
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Now you think to yourself, well, can it be that easy? No, the hard part is paying it. That's the
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hard part. It's easy to know what to do. The hard part's doing it. But apparently Dan Bongino can do
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it, because it doesn't seem to be too hard for him to just keep building those skills on top of skills
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on top of skills. So it's just, it's a pleasure to watch, honestly. Now, if you were to pick,
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if you were to say, what was the one thing that Dan Bongino does better than anybody else?
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That's the magic. Nothing. The magic is nothing. But you put together that combination,
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and who could do the show that he did today? Maybe nobody. Maybe nobody. I mean, Hannity's got an
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incredible talent stack as well. But he's sort of a little different vibe. So he found a way to make
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himself special, make himself provocative, build skills, bam. Let's talk about Kaylee McEnany.
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Kaylee McEnany. I can never remember her name. She's got one of those names that sounds too much like
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other things that I have to really go through my categorization in my head where I store names.
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I go, oh, that's one of those. It's one of those, but spelled different. Which box did I put that in?
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And then I have to reassemble her name every time I try to think of her. So she should change her name.
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That's my advice. So is it my imagination? Or is she just next level? Am I right? Have you,
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have you watched her first several appearances? Now, I don't think Trump has ever made a better hire
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than that. You know, it took him a while to narrow down. And by the way, I think I thought all of his
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prior press secretaries were great. Like, you know, Sarah Sanders, great. I thought they were all great.
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I didn't have a problem with any of them. But she's a little bit next level. And I was trying to figure
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out exactly why. And I think it comes back to the talent stack. Because if you're trying to look for
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that one thing that she has, again, I don't know, is there, I don't think there's one thing
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that she's the best at. But man, did she put together a package of individual talents. The one
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I haven't seen before is she has some kind of level of super preparation and organization. So she's got
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some kind of a, I don't know, a book of talking points or something. Except instead of being dumb
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talking points, it's like kill shot after kill shot. Like normally, they have just talking points.
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Well, the president sure loves the country. He loves the country. Yes, he does. And anything you say
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that says the president doesn't love the country. Well, that's the fake news, because he loves the
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country. You know, it's just, you just think it's a bunch of nothing. But I feel like every word that
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comes out of her mouth, like lands like a dagger. That's not the sound of a dagger. But I sort of
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combined a angry cat and a dagger. So if you imagine a dagger that sounds like an angry, forget it.
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But the point is, and I was also looking for technique. So aside from the fact that she's so
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organized, that when you can see the question is asked, and you see this twinkle in her eye,
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and then she turns the page, and you know what's coming. Like she's, she's created a pattern now.
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Like the, I swear that I think the reporters get afraid when they see this. I'll try to,
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for those of you who are watching on video, I'll try to do it. She'll be there waiting for the
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question. Yeah, just smiling. And then, then she'll hear the question, and she'll know it's one of the
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ones that she's got five zingers for in her prepared book. And you see this. This is just
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a little smile. And then she looks down at her book. She turns one page. And that's the funny
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part. She never turns two pages. She's always one page away from five kill shots. And she just looks
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see you. And she goes, and then she looks down and you know, it's going to be, it's going to be five
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minutes of pain for the press because she was just, she's just slaughtering them. It's just not even
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fair. And, and the thing that, well, what was the thing she did today? Oh, the thing that she did
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today was, was brilliant was, so of course, Trump gets blamed for not being prepared enough. And,
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you know, gosh, darn, the Obama administration left a whole detailed plan of what to do in a
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pandemic. And it's all chaos. And, you know, blah, blah, blah. So Kayleigh McEnany goes out there.
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And instead of doing this, which you'd expect, what you'd expect is, she'd say, no, we did pretty well.
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We actually performed well. Look at our ventilators. Like, that's the normal thing, right? You just say,
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no, it wasn't that chaotic. We did really well. Here's, here's several examples. No, she doesn't
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do that. She says, yeah, we cleaned up Obama's mess. What? What? She completely reframes it to them
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cleaning up his mess. Now, if that's all she'd said, without being able to back it up, I would have
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said, all right, all right, that's just sort of a clever framing. That's, it's not that clever,
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right? It's just that. But she backs it up with this. She talks about the supply chain. Now,
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that's strong, because the supply chain basically was the whole problem. Not only was it the problem
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getting the PPE and meds and everything else, but it highlighted a problem with China, just the whole
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China relationship. So, you know, Obama not only was behind whatever was not good about the China
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relationship, according to, you know, the Trump administration, but also clearly the bad guy
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in terms of the supply chain and our inability to get what we needed. So, so instead of just defending
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that, oh, it wasn't that chaotic. We got you all kinds of ventilators and stuff. You know,
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everything was fine. She goes, full out, we had to clean up Obama's mess. And then when you think
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you can't possibly support a claim that outrageous, she says, look at the supply chain and you go,
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yeah, that was bigger than everything else. If you added up everything that the Trump administration
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did wrong, if you took it all, added it all up and multiplied it by 10, it doesn't really come
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close to equaling the massive fuck up of the supply chain being in China. I mean, there's nothing
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that's really sort of, sort of like that. That's, that's fundamental. So the fact that nobody had
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been able to pull that framing out yet until she, she popped it out. So this is what, here's the bottom
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line. Generally when the press secretary for the president makes news, isn't it usually the reporter
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who's making news, right? Because the reporter gets the trick question in and then, you know,
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there's the awkward answer or the non-answer and then the reporter does a little star turn and
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everything. So the press, the, you know, the whole press event is supposed to be, according to the
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reporters, an event, an event for them to shine. And somehow Kayleigh McEnany has turned it into
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an event for them, for her to slaughter them on camera while we're all watching. I mean,
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she's basically turned that whole audience into a wet market. I hope I'm the first person who ever
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said that because pretty proud of that. Anyway, so, uh, the, the, the president has made two
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incredible hires recently. One is, uh, you know, Grinnell, Ambassador Grinnell, uh, as, uh, acting DNI and the
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other is, uh, his new, his new Spox. So he's really on a roll for some of that stuff. Um, let me ask you,
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do you believe, uh, I talked this morning about, uh, Sorrento Therapeutics saying that they have
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literally a cure for coronavirus. And my thinking at the time I explained this morning was that no CEO
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of a company that recently turned down a billion dollar offer. So it must be something to the
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company. Uh, no CEO in that position would tell such a bold lie to the public and, and basically risk
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everything unless he thought it was true, but you should do your homework on that company
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because let's just say I don't own that stock anymore. Now it's not because I have any specific
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reason to distrust them, but after, uh, you know, after owning the stock for a few hours
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and, and looking at it go up, I said to myself, do I want this free money, which is laying on this
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table? Or do I want to find out in a few weeks that this wasn't quite what I thought it was?
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Because if you were to look at the big picture and say, okay, how often are things not the way
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you think that they should be, or they don't turn out the way that you hope? Well, that's most of the
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time, isn't it? Sort of most of the time things don't work out right. So anyway, I got out of that
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stock. Don't take any advice from me on financial stuff. I'm just giving you full disclosure because I
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mentioned it this morning. I think it would be fair to say that. What do you think about these
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Trump vaccines and they're going to deliver them with the military? They got a great name project
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warp speed. Here's the, here's the thing I like best about the plan. I do like that. It's sort of
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a Manhattan project for vaccines because doesn't that feel right? You know, hasn't everybody been
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saying since the beginning, whenever there's a crisis, somebody says, well, let's do a Manhattan
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project of something. I'm sure there's a Manhattan project that will fix everything. And there's
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something about knowing there's a Manhattan project that makes you feel like you're getting
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some progress, right? So, so Trump does this Manhattan project called project warp speed, where
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they're going to, you know, the government is really going to go in and make sure that the vaccines
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are produced in volume, even before they know they're tested and they work. So pretty impressive.
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But here's the best part. The best part is that the president has, if this works, you know,
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and I, I'm a little skeptical that we'll have any kind of a working vaccine that quickly, but
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let's say it does. If it does, what he's got lined up is that the military, in his words,
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he's going to use every plane, plane and truck and I don't know, boat or whatever to deliver
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it. So he's got the military lined up to just like blanket the country with the vaccine. Now
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there are probably other ways to deliver vaccine, wouldn't you say? Probably other ways to do
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that. Like FedEx can get it to you tomorrow, can't they? I mean, it can't be that hard to
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deliver a lot of vaccine with just our normal existing things. But yeah, you're ahead of me.
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You're ahead of me. What does the country need more than that? Like what would be cooler
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than the military delivering the freaking vaccines? I don't care what that costs. Like, you know,
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that's the sort of thing where I'd say to myself, oh, shouldn't we price that out? Because,
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you know, FedEx is pretty reasonable too. But in this case, no, no, we should not price that out.
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The military needs to deliver this. It's just so perfect. It's just so perfect. I don't know what
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they think of it. If they don't like it, then I'll change my mind. But I do love that visual. And
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it's good for the country. It's just good for the country. Suicide is down in Japan. Remember I
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predicted what I call the Sherrill theory, you know, Sherrill's law, that when there's anything
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that's just a big change, people will pause what they were going to do anyway. And I thought that
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if the lockdown was brief, you might actually see a reduction in suicide. Obviously, the longer it goes,
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that's going to reverse. And I'm sure we've gone long enough now that there's probably a crossover
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point. We're probably past it, unfortunately. But in Japan, suicides went down. And I think
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I'm the only person who predicted it was even possible. So we'll see if that holds in the
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United States. There's too many things that are different, but it would be worth looking
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at it. So I was thinking of zooming instead of periscoping. I think I can do that, right?
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I think I can zoom and it still goes to periscope. I have to look into that. Because what I want
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to do is some split window stuff. And I'm not sure if we're there yet. All right. Those were
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the comments I was planning to make. And what do I think of the LA mayor? You know, I don't think
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he's killing it. I don't think he's killing it. You know, I don't live in Southern California. So
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I'm not close to that situation. Anybody have any questions? Anything else you'd like to?
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Oh, I'm sorry. I promised you something and I didn't deliver. So let me deliver. I promised to
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tell you why, in a tweet, I said that tonight I would tell you why even ugly musicians have groupies.
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Now, the obvious answer, why an ugly, let's say an ugly male musician, just to keep the visual.
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Now, obviously, they might be successful and rich and talented. And those things would
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would appeal to people. But there's something else I figured out in the process of playing drums.
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Now, I've talked to you a lot about how when you add talents to your talent stack,
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sometimes the talents will have some weird intersection that opens up a door. And you can
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see something clearly that you wouldn't have seen if you had one talent or the other. But when you
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mash them together, it's like, oh, you put these two together. What am I seeing? And what the two that
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I put together intentionally is, you know, I know persuasion, and I know what persuades. And one of the
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big elements of persuasion, one of the biggest, by far, is pacing and leading. Pacing meaning matching
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your bodily rhythms, your breathing, your motion, your posture, matching you in any way, matching the
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way you talk. So you pace somebody that way, just match them. And then they more easily can be
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influenced. Because once they get comfortable with your same rhythm, then you can sort of lead them.
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That's the pacing and leading. And that's what music is. So music basically is the musician is
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pacing the audience until he can lead. And once he can lead, well, your defenses are down.
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And the groupies are coming. So my insight here, and obviously it does make a difference that
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they're famous and talented and whatever. So those things are attractive as well. But I'm pretty sure
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that there's something about the music itself that makes musicians uniquely attractive to people
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because they've been paced. Now, here's the trick. It's the same problem with, you know,
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hypnosis as it is with music. You have to first match people. But how do you match all kinds of
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different people who are in different moods and different modes? Well, the beauty of it is that now
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we have music that people self-select. So people are selecting music that already matches their mood,
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their mood, or maybe one that they want to get into. So people are already pacing with the music.
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They do that themselves. And if you were, let's say, a DJ, and you're reading the crowd,
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you would want to start out with what kind of music feels like the mood of the crowd. If you can hit it,
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then you can take them to the next level. So the DJ is trying to match you with your rhythms and your
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beats and your moods and the vibe. And then once you've been matched, then he can take you to a
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higher level. And that's, you know, a successful show. So that was an insight that I would not have
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had except for the marriage of the fact that I'm learning drums now. And when I'm feeling the beat
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and the pattern, I'm thinking to myself, hey, this is just persuasion. It's all just pacing and leading.
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And, you know, it's clear when you've studied persuasion.
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You should do group hypnosis, somebody says. You know, it doesn't work as well.
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It does. You can do a little bit, but because everybody's in a different place,
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hypnotizing a group is kind of hard. The only thing you can do that works is relaxation, I would say.
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You can get a group to relax all at the same time.
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Do I have musical rhythm? I'm trying to find that out. I would say there's no indication of it.
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There's no indication that I have rhythm. But when I use my metronome and I, you know,
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if I pay attention, I can match it perfectly. But how hard is that? I mean, everybody could do that,
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I think. Somebody says, I'm stuck on the toilet. Can you help? I can. So what you want to do is
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make sure you've got a nice seal and then flush. And that'll cause a suction action
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that once it reverses will cause higher pressure pop you right off.
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Someone was saying Starbucks is not taking cash. I would imagine that's true.
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I can't imagine anybody will be taking cash pretty soon.
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Yeah, he's his own thing. I don't think that he would conform to a lot of the base technique that I talk about.
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And I hope that you have an amazing, amazing day.