Episode 994 Scott Adams： Convalescent Blood Plasma, Biden, Golf, and Scarborough
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Summary
Trump accuses Scarborough of murder before he goes golfing, and a special guest joins the show to talk about convalescent blood serum. Plus, the dopamine hit of the day: the thing that makes everything better, including the damn pandemic.
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Did you wonder where I was? I'm two minutes late. Couldn't get my Wi-Fi working.
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Had a little power outage last night. Messed things up. But I'm good now. We're back.
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And that means it's time for a little thing you call Simultaneous Sip. I call it that too.
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And all it takes is a cup or mug or a glass of tank or chalice or sign a canteen jug or flask, a vessel of any kind.
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Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee.
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And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better, including the damn pandemic.
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It's called the Simultaneous Sip and it happens now. Go.
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Now, if you joined us last night, I had a little technical difficulty.
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I was trying to bring on a special guest to talk about convalescent blood serum.
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And as soon as he's ready, we're going to try that again this morning.
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In the news, my favorite story is that President Trump apparently wanted to go golfing this weekend, but he didn't want it to be the biggest story.
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So what do you do if you want to go golfing and you're the president and you don't want it to be the biggest story for three days?
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Well, on the way out the door to golf, what you do is you send a tweet that accuses Joe Scarborough of murder.
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Now, you have to appreciate how much fun that is.
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Now, of course, not for the family of the victim who died many years ago, but the fact that Trump would accuse somebody of murder before he goes golfing is beautiful.
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So let me just finish this story and then I'll add him on.
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Now, on one hand, it's completely outrageous and inappropriate that the president of the United States would accuse Joe Scarborough of murder when there's no indication that he actually murdered anybody.
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There was some young woman who hit her head and died in his office years ago.
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And she had some health problem that suggests that she just passed out and hit her head.
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But the fact that the president would say that, now you say to yourself, well, that's all wrong.
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That is wrong on a level that's deeper than any wrongness.
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Except, except we are talking about Joe Scarborough who did lie about the president in the worst possible way for years.
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I believe he accused the president of suggesting people should drink bleach.
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I think he suggested the president had called neo-Nazis in Charlottesville fine people.
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So, is it fundamentally different to accuse somebody of being pro-Nazi versus saying you murdered your girlfriend?
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Because once you've accepted that you can say absolutely anything in the political context, there's just no penalty.
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The president just took the rules and said, what are the rules?
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And I can just say it in public and it's a headline?
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Because I know we had a Wi-Fi problem yesterday.
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And it looks like we got a Wi-Fi problem today.
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Well, whatever the problem is, it doesn't look like that's going to get solved.
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But then I think we should maybe give up on this if it doesn't work this time.
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This is the first time the technology has worked more than five seconds, so I feel good about it.
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First of all, let me see if I can pronounce your name correctly.
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Can you tell the audience what your background is and how that relates specifically to the
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So my background is that I worked in bioscience for about 10 years.
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And then I ended up kind of leaving academic bioscience and taught myself to program and become
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a data analyst and started working in corporate for a corporation as a data analyst.
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And when the COVID stuff started to hit, I would figure out ways to harvest public data to do
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public data analysis that I could publish to help people understand the situation a little
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And then through that process, I started to, you know, think about different answers that I thought
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we needed that maybe we weren't getting from the media.
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And one of the things I thought about as well is, you know, what can we do now?
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Cause there's going to be people who can't wait that long.
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Um, and the development of new therapeutics, it takes so long that, um, a lot of people
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And so, you know, we got to figure something out in the meantime.
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So tell us what you did cause I was, uh, I was sort of, uh, following along early on and
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you, and you put together your own tests, right?
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I bought a, uh, commercially available test kit.
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Um, I just happened to become aware of its existence pretty early, I suppose.
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Um, and the way that I became aware of it is that I just got like a spam email.
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Cause you know, when you buy something from a vendor, they put you on a mailing list and
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then they always blast out these, um, kind of spam advertisements.
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And so I got one of those that said, Oh, Hey, we have these, um, COVID-19 antibody tests.
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And so I thought, well, shit, I want to buy one of those.
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And my friend and I were just going to test ourselves.
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So we, so I bought one and then, um, it had space for 40 tests.
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And so I thought, well, I might as well just fill this whole thing up and, um, run 40 tests
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and kind of get a better sense of how many people are positive.
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Cause at the time it was unclear of how far spread the virus had been.
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So, so you were really, uh, I think you might've been the first person who did an, an amateur
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or professional test of, uh, how many people had antibodies.
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Um, I, as far as I know, I was the first, uh, report or I did publish the first report
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about, um, or on a community kind of serum survey for COVID-19 antibodies.
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Now, so you've been sort of paying attention to the whole serum antibody thing.
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And I know there was a, uh, there was a article in the Wall Street Journal that said they had
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So, so are we positive on, on this convalescent serum?
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I mean, the idea of taking blood from somebody who's been infected and recovered and putting
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their antibodies in somebody else, uh, what, what's the state of that in terms of the science?
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Yeah, so, um, on Friday, I believe, uh, the first convalescent serum therapy, uh, clinical
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study was published, um, and the authors claim it was the first in the world published, um,
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or at least the largest, um, and so they did treat 39 patients, like you said, with convalescent
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So there was a group that did not receive that, uh, treatment.
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And there was a significant improvement in survival with the group that did receive the
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Uh, there was, uh, about 12.8%, um, uh, death rate for the convalescent serum therapy group,
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but it was 24.4% for those who didn't receive it.
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So that means that the serum therapy cut the death rate in half.
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And that was for people who were pretty close to death to begin with.
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And I, I think I saw in the article that they, they just assume it would work better if
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you had it earlier, but it hasn't been tested, I guess.
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Now, is there any reason to think that any of this would ever be dangerous?
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Does it, it doesn't have to go through, it wouldn't have to go, I know this is sort of
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outside your area, but I don't think this would have to go through a whole FDA, would
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Because it's, their antibodies, is this something we know well enough that we don't need to go
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Well, well, it is actually FDA approved now, um, at least with an emergency use authorization.
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Uh, so that was one of the first things that became approved as a treatment for COVID-19,
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There's a couple of different things people generally test for, like ABO blood typing,
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you want to match the donor and recipient, and then RH factors.
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So if, well, what would happen if you didn't match?
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Would it hurt you, or would it just not help you?
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Yeah, it could, it could definitely hurt you, um, down the road.
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I'm not, you know, it has been done without ABO blood type matching, um, in fact, when it
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was first used, or the reports I've seen when it was first used, or it's from the early 1900s,
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and they were not doing ABO blood type matching at that time.
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But all of those reports showed significant, um, improvement.
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Well, well, if you had to guess, based on, uh, you know, isn't there, there are two other
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cases where they've used this convalescent blood, um, serum approach, right?
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Um, well, the, I don't think it was used, or I'm not aware of it being used for HIV, um,
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but the, uh, treatment for HIV is monoclonal antibodies, and same with Ebola, um, and so
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it's similar in a way because convalescent serum therapy is used, basically using antibodies.
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It's more of, um, a kind of, um, gross product of antibodies where you're just taking everything
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under the sun that's in somebody's serum and giving it to somebody else, and you're not
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Um, but it has been used in SARS, um, there is actually a guy who got the 1901 Nobel Prize
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for the development of serum therapies, and he, um, solved a diphtheria epidemic in Germany
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in the 1890s, uh, by using serum therapies, and that's kind of where it started, and so
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Now, do you, uh, do you know, uh, what it would take to scale this up?
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Let's say that, uh, in a few weeks we said, yes, this is the thing.
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We need more of this, um, given that you have to actually take it from people, unless you're
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How, how quickly can, I know you did some calculations on how quickly you could scale
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Um, like, what, what would you guess, I know this is an unfair question off the top of your
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head, but let's say if we were to say, start today, and said, all right, we want to get
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Uh, like, how close are we to being able to do that?
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Um, I think that it is generally reserved for the people that are in poor condition, you
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So not everybody is going to need it, but for those people, it would be possible, uh, is
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New York got hit so hard that I don't know if they would have been able to keep up with
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demand, um, but generally speaking, you have about 5% of cases who end up in the ICU, and
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those are the people that would be, um, candidates to receive the therapy.
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Because why wouldn't you give it to people even before they had it, so that they, if
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they did get it, they could handle it more easily?
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If you need to do, um, plasmapharesis to get the, uh, plasma from donors, you also have
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to be checking people ahead of time to make sure that they actually have an antibody response
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Let me ask you some sort of detailed questions.
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If you're going to draw blood from one person and turn that one person's blood into antibodies,
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how long would the whole process take from putting the needle in to draw the blood to, to having
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it in your hand and, and, and ready to give somebody else?
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Um, I think that you can do plasmapharesis, um, in a couple, uh, hours.
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It depends on, obviously, how much you're trying to harvest.
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The amount that the FDA allows, I believe, for a donation is a liter per week or two liters
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Um, and then in the, uh, study that you're taught, you're talking about, they used about
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500 milliliters, which is a half a liter per patient.
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To, to simplify that, each donor giving one donation could handle how many people?
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It looks like if over a two week donation period or two.
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If I donate blood once, how many people would that handle?
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And so that's why I say it should be reserved for only the people that are in poor condition
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Now, if you looked into the, I don't understand the, uh, the differences or the, the nuances
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of monoclonal where you're just taking, you know, the best antibodies you can get from
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one real person and then you're cloning it with machines to scale it up.
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Is, is there a, uh, limit to how quickly you can do that if you just keep building machines?
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I mean, could, could we do a ventilator type thing where we just say, all right, everybody's
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If you looked into those, do you, do you, do you know if that's a path or not?
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Yeah, those are, um, the first therapies that will come online for COVID-19 is the monoclonal
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It takes a little bit of time to develop because of, uh, the process.
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You build what are called hybridomas and that's a fusion between a cancer cell and an antibody
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And then the antibody, um, secreting cell, uh, is fused and it starts just producing antibodies
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They're all identical and make a bunch of antibodies in a bioreactor.
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It just takes a little bit of time to identify the specific, um, antibody secreting cell that
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Now, once you've identified the antibodies, isn't it just a question of making more of
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Couldn't, couldn't you just keep scaling it up indefinitely?
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Yeah, you could, um, especially if, you know, you, somebody identified a good, um, antibody
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secreting cell and then, um, made the hybridomas and if they were to share those with other
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people and kind of, uh, uh, decentralize the production, um, and make it, uh, scale faster,
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There's also, you know, you should be probably combining a lot of different hybridomas to get
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Make sure that they're, uh, there's a good, strong protection there.
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Uh, uh, do you, have you heard, I haven't seen any news coverage of the monoclonal anything.
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Do you, do you know if anybody's getting any traction in actually doing that?
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I haven't seen anything, um, that's become available yet with those, uh, I've seen some
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anecdotal reports about strong protection there.
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I think last week there was a report from a company that said they had a good candidate,
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And the other thing is that, uh, there's a difference between having an antibody that you
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can see recognizes COVID-19 and then also whether that antibody neutralizes the virus.
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So, um, I've actually seen some evidence in my hands where somebody can test positive for
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antibodies that recognize the virus, but those antibodies don't necessarily neutralize the
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And then conversely, somebody could have, uh, a low level of antibodies that, you know,
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recognize the virus, but those antibodies are very strong at neutralizing.
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So, and do we have any more visibility on how long antibodies would last?
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Let's say you got them either naturally by having it recovering or you got it from, uh,
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Do you know, is there any difference in how long they would last?
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I don't, um, you might expect there to be a shorter window for, um, donor antibodies because
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they might have start to get marked as non-self by your immune system and then kind of removed.
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But, um, it's a tough thing to study because, you know, you start to get this mix of potentially
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like antibodies made by yourself and antibodies from the, the donor.
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And how do you differentiate which one came from which?
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Um, but, uh, I think generally like two years is what a lot of people say.
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If you look at data from the original SARS, um, patients, uh, two years of protection is
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what people were getting at least some, at least some got protection out to 17 years though.
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Now, would you, would you say that it comes down to, uh, literally just how fast we can
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I mean, that's really the gating factor, right?
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Because at this point we kind of know it's safe and we kind of know it works or all common
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I mean, it would be hard to imagine it doesn't work.
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And, um, one of the limitations is just getting access to the, uh, people who are producing
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those antibodies so that then you can kind of identify those antibodies secreting cells
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So I would encourage anybody that's ever had it and recovered to look into getting tested
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for antibodies and look into donating their serum for convalescent serum therapy because,
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um, every, you could donate every week or every couple of weeks and that serum can be banked
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for the future where, um, maybe in the fall we have a second wave or something.
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So I think we should be stockpiling serum now, um, in anticipation for the fall and winter
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So there's, there's an idea I'd never heard before, which is we have all these strategic
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stockpiles of everything from oil to PPE and ventilators.
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Uh, it would make perfect sense to have a national stack, the stockpile temporarily.
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I don't know how long you can store this stuff, but it would, that makes perfect sense to have
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And that, like I said, requires people who have had it to get tested for the antibodies and
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I think that, um, a lot of people are looking for something that they can do to help nowadays.
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And, you know, I, I think that those people should get paid to donate their serum.
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Um, a lot of them have probably accrued pretty significant hospital bills along the way.
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And this would be a way to offset those bills for them.
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Oh, now you're, now you're, this is interesting.
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So you're talking about how this might be a money making thing.
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Um, do you, are you aware of anybody who's ever charged for their antibodies for any kind
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I'm not aware of a specific instance where somebody's donated their antibodies because
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they just had the, um, greatest antibodies out there.
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But, you know, there's plasma donation centers all across the country.
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Um, I don't know the name of one offhand, but I know there's national chains of plasma donation
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So, this is very interesting because, you know, um, I, I think that the patriotic mood
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in the country at the moment is so high that you could get all the, all the blood you wanted.
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Basically, if the, if the president of the United States said, here's the deal, if you've
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I, I believe that patriotism alone would give you all the blood you wanted, but if you really
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wanted to take it to the next level, uh, people are people.
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And if you could offer more money to, let's say, go in a second time or a third or a fourth
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time, as you were suggesting, I would imagine that a monetary incentive would probably have
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So, yeah, and I, I've talked to some people about, you know, the monetary incentive and
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people get a little bit uneasy sometimes about that.
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But my perspective is that, you know, it's going to be administered in the hospital and
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And, uh, it's almost like, gosh, it, it feels like this is such a big deal.
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You know, every, the, the biggest deal of course is wearing masks, but I would think that
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the second most promising thing, you know, if we have to wait for vaccines for months and
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months, but the things that we can do now, the second most promising thing is probably
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In terms of things that we know that work and not having to wait around for something
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We, there's no guarantee that we'll have a vaccine or anything like that, but we know this
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And, um, so, you know, why not embrace it while we also pursue other avenues to solve the problem?
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Um, so, um, yeah, I was just going to point out, so I started a company that we're going
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And I'm specifically doing a neutralization tests, which means, um, we're not just testing
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We're testing to see whether your antibodies neutralize the virus.
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And, um, we plan to take that data and kind of publish it on, publish the de-identified
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data on open source dashboards for anybody to check out, just so everybody can get a
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general sense of where, uh, their community is in terms of, um, relative protection.
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And then, uh, I plan on, uh, creating an avenue for people who test positive for neutralizing
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antibodies to, um, be sent information on how to donate their plasma.
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And so then they should be told, you know, here's what you can do if you're interested,
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um, in helping other people with your, um, unique situation or unique set of antibodies.
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So, uh, Ian, uh, I've been watching the comments and I just, I just want to call out something
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that, uh, you know, I always talk about winning attitudes and losing attitudes and I'm watching
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a lot of losing attitudes in the, in the comments, specific, specifically people who don't
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quite appreciate, and I'm going to make them appreciate it now, uh, the power of your talent
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stack, because people are sort of saying, oh, data analyst, what's that got to do with
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But the whole point is that you knew how to draw blood.
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You've got, what did you say your background was?
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So he basically compiled a whole bunch of skills together, including starting a new business
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initiative to try to help with the coronavirus.
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And I, I was watching this from the beginning and on day one, Ian was saying, all right, I
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And then I've been watching as you've, you've, you've grabbed, you know, like one piece of,
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one piece of it at a time and tried to assemble it into something that would be bigger than
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And I've, I've been, I've been completely impressed, not only at the early data visualization
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stuff you were doing, because initially you were doing data visualization, some of the
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And then you found that your talent stack could get you all the way to here.
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And the next thing you know, there, you know, it could be, uh, you know, one of the
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pivotal, at least informational parts of what would be the second most important thing
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And, uh, for those who are, maybe don't have the winning mindset, what the hell did you guys
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Let me just say that while you're on the line, Ian, limit to your critics, because, because
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you know, there's always going to be somebody on here, blah, blah, blah.
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I hear this all the time, you know, Hey, you're a cartoonist while you're doing this,
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But all of those people, you're not very successful, I'll bet.
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Because if you're worried about staying in your lane, and you're worried that people
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only have one talent, Ian's got more than one talent.
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If you only have one talent, maybe you don't understand how that works.
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But if you put enough talent together, you have a superpower.
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Uh, and I mean that seriously, because in, in times of crisis, not everybody runs toward
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the fire and you did, you know, on day one, you were running toward the emergency.
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And we need more of you and less of the people who are, who are nitpicking on here.
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And I just want to point out before I go, um, that I can't do it all by myself.
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I have a lot of help, um, from McHale Statton and Brianna Knight.
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They've been helping me get Cure Hub going and, you know, everything's, you know, about
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being on a team and winning team and, um, you're, we're all in this together and, uh,
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And I think it's, uh, you got to treat life like a positive sum game and then, um, you'll
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Well, that's, that's America in a, in a nutshell right there.
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Do you want to, uh, name a URL that you want people to look at?
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Um, and we have a system in place where you can sign up and get, reserve your spot in line
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Um, and then you don't pay anything, but, um, you'll get on our mailing list.
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And then as soon as we have the antibody tests approved, um, which should be a couple of weeks,
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And then you can join the study and, um, you know, donate a sample to get tested.
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Uh, I'm going to go on with the rest of my program and I'll catch up with you.
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I will give you the, the first ever, uh, second simultaneous sip.
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And I'll use a cup or a mug or a glass of tango, canteen, jug, and flask of the vessel of any kind.
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The second simultaneous sip, even better than the first.
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So, you know, I, as much as the, the topic is interesting because I, in my opinion, it's
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probably the most important topic besides masks, but, um, I also wanted you to get, get a feel
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for Ian, you know, just, just get a feel for what your fellow citizens, if you're American
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and I'm sure it's happening in every country around the world, people are just jumping into
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I mean, people are running toward this thing like crazy.
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You know, when this is over, when this is over, you're going to be really proud.
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That you were a human because humans are pretty awesome.
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And, uh, and, and humans have done remarkable things in the past several months and there's
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So, you know, we're, we're all lost in the details and just trying to get through life
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and, you know, make it to the next, uh, time you can buy groceries.
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And I know that that's got to be the focus, but when this is done, when this is done, there
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are going to be some real, real things to be proud about.
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Uh, I got a suggestion on the locals platform where I've moved a lot of my non-dilbert stuff,
00:32:39.840
Anyway, I don't know his real name, but he started, uh, referring to people who watch CNN
00:32:53.660
So I'm going to, I'm going to adopt that, uh, that concept.
00:32:56.820
So instead of what I'd be, what I used to be saying was, you know, it's two movies on
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one screen and some people are siloed in their, in their news and they don't see the news from
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And I used to sort of describe it as, you know, in engineering terms, but I thought this is
00:33:13.940
so much more powerful to say, oh, you only watch these networks.
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Well, you're among the poorly educated because it's literally true, literally poorly educated,
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which I think is hilarious because you know how much they're going to hate that.
00:33:34.640
Um, so apparently in the, in the polls, including a Fox news poll, uh, Biden is ahead of Trump
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by way more than even Hillary was ahead of Trump at the same time.
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So apparently Biden is doing great by staying out of public and just gaffing himself and
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Now, I don't know what could be more ridiculous or more funny than the fact that Joe Biden is
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in his basement, literally just, you know, decomposing and he, and he's doing great.
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No, honestly, are you ever just at home and you just start laughing about the whole Joe
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Because you know, the, the Biden in the basement thing sort of crept up on us, right?
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Like, like, like it was like, Hey, I think there's this virus and Wuhan, all right.
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You know, and you, and like, it looks like it might be coming this way.
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And maybe we should, you know, stay with him public a little bit.
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And the next thing you know, a major candidate for president is living in his basement and
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And because we, and because we sort of got there gradually, we've sort of accepted it.
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Uh, uh, can you tell me that you've never just, you were just sitting there by yourself
00:35:11.480
and suddenly you just sort of realize the situation we're in with Joe Biden decomposing in his basement
00:35:19.040
and leading, leading, leading in the polls to be the next president of the United States
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and have his fingers on the nuclear, on the nuclear button.
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If that's not funny to you, I don't know what is, but here's the thing that's funniest.
00:35:39.240
So, you know, you can't, you know, don't hold me to this later.
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However, I'm not positive, but I think, I just think we might be witnessing the greatest
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And what I mean by the greatest practical joke is I think, I can't prove this.
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I think conservatives are massively lying to pollsters because it's funny, right?
00:36:15.480
Don't you, don't you sort of suspect because if you were saying to yourself, okay, I get
00:36:21.820
that President Trump's not popular and, you know, all the Democrats are going to vote for
00:36:27.700
Yeah, I get that, you know, that's going to explain most of, of, of what you see, right?
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But the, the fact that Biden's down there decomposing and leading the polls strongly suggests
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it, it strongly suggests that what we're seeing is a really large national scale practical joke.
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Because if the, if the polls still say Biden by eight points and then Trump wins by eight
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points, it's going to be the greatest troll of all time.
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Honestly, it will be, it will be the most epic practical joke ever played in the history
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Because I'm seeing a lot of people in the comments are saying, oh, I think you're right.
00:37:27.660
I think the Republicans are just lying to the pollsters because it's funny.
00:37:35.620
Speaking of funny pranks, Alyssa Milano got photographed wearing a crochet mask.
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And you can imagine how the internet reacted to her crochet mask.
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They of course said, hey, there are holes in your crochet.
00:37:52.660
Therefore, you fool, you idiot, you dumb Democrat, you Biden supporting fool, you fool.
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And worse yet, if you're going to wear a crochet mask, don't get your photograph taken if you're
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And then Alyssa Milano waited, wait, hold, hold, hold.
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And then Alyssa Milano tweets to one of her critics, carbon filter inside, love.
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Do you think she knew that people were going to get on her about her crochet mask, which
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she says, and, you know, I think it's probably true.
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Because if you've got those good N95 masks, they're the ugliest of the masks.
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So if she figured out a way to put a, you know, a more pleasant cover over the ugliest mask,
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I don't know if it was an N95, but she said a carbon filter, so maybe that's good, too.
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If you're not watching, I've said this a billion times, but if you're not following Mike Cernovich
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on Twitter, you're missing one of the best shows.
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It's like a TV show that just goes on all the time.
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Like, every time I get on Twitter, it'll see, like, five Cernovich quotes, and every one
00:39:46.140
that makes you stop and go, huh, but this one, if you want to understand how to operate
00:39:55.480
on the next level, this tweet from Cernovich, this has made me laugh for two days.
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He goes, self-confidence triggers mediocre men.
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Now, of course, the beauty of it is that you can't complain about it without being labeled
00:40:18.820
a mediocre man, so it's like this perfect little trap.
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It's like, I want to complain about that because I'm really mad about your self-confidence.
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I'm like Cernovich, but if I do complain about it, does that make me a mediocre man?
00:40:34.440
So, watching Cernovich build these little Twitter traps for mediocre men is one of the funniest
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I said this before, but there's even more signs of it.
00:40:58.880
Now, we thought that might happen, but apparently it is happening.
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The lasting benefit we're going to get from telehealth is going to be gigantic, and the ability
00:41:09.440
to practice across state lines, which I think will become permanent, would be huge.
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And again, thank you to all of you who helped make that happen.
00:41:20.580
So, I'm just checking in on that because it's such a big topic, and it's going in the right
00:41:30.800
There's some kind of drug called ivermectin that's getting some good reviews, and I guess
00:41:40.360
it can interact with other medications and has some side effects and stuff, but there
00:41:45.360
were some initial trials that sort of looked good.
00:41:52.560
I think that in the next, over the next few weeks, you're just going to hear one therapeutic
00:41:59.860
after another, and it's just going to be all positive news.
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Now, if you've done the math, I did this last night on Periscope.
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I was talking about all the things which have cut the risk down.
00:42:16.680
You know, maybe vitamin D, maybe summer will make a difference in the warm weather.
00:42:21.540
You know, maybe what we've learned about nursing homes and how to protect them.
00:42:24.760
Maybe what we've learned about ventilator use, not to kill people with ventilators.
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If you take each of these many pieces of good news, each of them individually reduces risk
00:42:36.740
by some percentage, from 75% with masks down to maybe vitamin D makes a difference, or maybe
00:42:46.260
We don't know if it's causation yet, but maybe hydroxychloroquine and zinc, if you get them
00:42:55.020
Maybe there's some people we can get with this convalescent blood serum.
00:42:58.880
So, we now have, off the top of my head, maybe 10 to 12 different things we've either
00:43:06.900
developed as a tool or learned, which also allows us to reduce risk.
00:43:13.760
I feel like we have all the tools to, within a few weeks, we're going to have the risk down
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I mean, it's almost going to disappear, I think.
00:43:25.160
Monoclonal antibody is almost ready, somebody says.
00:43:40.520
And then somebody says, primarily immune system strength.
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When this whole thing started, I was advising everybody to just make sure they took care
00:43:55.720
So, in other words, you know, get out, get a little light exercise, get some sun, get
00:44:00.300
some sleep, eat right, you know, all the usual things.
00:44:06.200
How many of you, in the comments, it'll take a little time lag here, but in the comments,
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tell me if you feel that you've done something that would boost your immune system.
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Have you intentionally boosted your immune system?
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So far, every person who's answering is saying yes.
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What kind of change does that make in your life and in civilization if suddenly 370 million
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people just decided to get serious about boosting their immunity and their health?
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For those of you who are listening to this, it is a non-broken string of yeses.
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Bicycle riding outdoors, yes, definitely, yes, yes, yes.
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Well, this is one of the, this is the most underreported story of the year.
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Wouldn't you say this is the most underreported story?
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If, if we had not had a coronavirus and suddenly you found that 370 million Americans, and I'm guessing other countries are doing something similar, if you found that hundreds of millions of people suddenly took seriously their health, what did we just do to the entire healthcare cost of this country?
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And, you know, I'm wondering if you think that you'll be able to turn this into habit.
00:46:08.800
The trouble is, you know, a lot of us are not going to work in the normal ways.
00:46:12.440
We don't have the normal schedule, so it's going to be harder when you're trying to work it in with your normal schedule.
00:46:33.580
So, well, that might be the good news for this.
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Maybe our healthcare cost just took 20% hit simply because we're, we're in better shape and we know how to do this.
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Well, I'm impressed with you all and I'm going to leave you on that note.
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Hope you learned something today and I'll talk to you tonight.