Episode 996 Scott Adams： Freedom Breaking Out Everywhere, China Behaving Badly, Hydroxychloroquine Fake News
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about the coronavirus pandemic, china's grip on Hong Kong, and why we should stop calling it a cold war because we're in a hot war. We also talk about John Krasinski selling out and how he sold out.
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all right here's a quick question what's the best part of the day i'm waiting i'm waiting
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that's right it's now it's now and you don't need much
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to enjoy the best part of the day no not much at all all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass of
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tanker chalice or stein a canteen jug or flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite
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liquid i like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine hit of the
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day the thing that makes everything better including the damn pandemic it's called the
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i can taste the infection rates decreasing yep yep it's working
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well let's talk about all the things are you ready for all the things
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well let's start with china there's talk about a cold war breaking out with china
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over their increasingly strong grip on hong kong as they're as they're closing the vice on hong kong
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to which i say we're not already in a cold war what is a cold war if we're not already in one
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is it because we're in a hot war i mean how many americans have they killed this year
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at what point has china killed so many americans with both fentanyl and and viruses that we have
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to stop calling it a cold war because it's kind of hot over here maybe it's not a hot over there
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but uh here's what i would suggest so i don't know what it means to be in a cold war
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i guess it means whatever you want it to mean but given the fact that there's squeezing hong kong
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which would be violating a business agreement a political agreement but it's kind of a business
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agreement as well and they're shipping fentanyl and their their phone equipment is spying and they're
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taking ip and they're doing you know unfair trade deals and blah blah blah i've said this before
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but it's time to say it again rather than a cold war we should do an international rating of china
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and other countries and we should simply rate them not suitable for business
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and i would think that would matter if you've rated all the countries as for their suitability
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to actually do business with them because the problem with china is not so much that we think
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they're going to attack us militarily it's that we think their business will get so strong that it
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will just you know eat up the you know civilization with uh chinese money and influence if that's what
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we're worried about let's just call it what it is china is not safe for business it's just not a safe
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place to do business with them it's not a safe place to put a company it's not a safe place to
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even accept their mail i'm not even sure we should accept their mail because it's full of fentanyl
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all right so uh actor john krasinski i don't know if he knew this but during the pandemic he was doing
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a little uh web show i guess he was doing it himself called some good news so unbeknownst to me he was
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doing kind of the same thing i was doing except not as well obviously and it got picked up by cbs news
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cbs all access not cbs news um so they're going to pick it up and turn it into a show except the show
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will not involve john krasinski now there was one good thing about the john krasinski show
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which was john krasinski so somehow he managed to sell cbs on a concept that only had one good
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element and he said but well there's just one thing i'm going to sell you this great idea
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but there's just one little change i'm going to take out the only thing that made it work
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which was that it was john krasinski who was hosting it during a coronavirus pandemic you take
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that part out and what exactly did he sell but of course in a world full of stupid people how did
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people take it his fans rebelled that's right john krasinski's probably you know probably one of the
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nicest guys in the nicest guys in the world you know if if you can you know base it on what we see
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on tv you know even not just his roles but when he's just talking uh in interviews and stuff he looks
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like a nice guy but his fans are very angry that he gave his time for nothing during the coronavirus
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and entertained them and millions of others like them for free for free and then he sells
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the concept to cbs he's not even involved in it he's not as an actor he's not even going to be in it
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he sells the concept and then his audience is all mad at him for selling out and i thought
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selling out selling out cbs bought from him something that probably has no value whatsoever
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i personally i would have sold i would have sold that um somebody says they didn't like his show
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all right well he sold it anyway uh so i was having a good laugh at cnn coverage today because i wanted
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to see how they'd handle freedom breaking out in america uh you know over the memorial day so lots
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of people were crowding together and ignoring the medical guidelines and not wearing masks and
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doing everything that the experts say they're not supposed to be doing and but on the plus side
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it was outdoors and they tended to be the younger people there wasn't a lot of senior citizens were out
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running around on memorial day so how dangerous was it well we don't know that's what we're going to
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find out probably in about 10 days but cnn's coverage was hilarious uh here's here's the first one this
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is the headline one of cnn's headline it says a 17 year old dies in georgia now why is it important
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that a 17 year old died in georgia does that feel like national news let's read on in georgia one of
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the first states to begin reopening officials reported this about the state's youngest coronavirus
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death and then there's a 17 year old boy who died and i'm thinking to myself is the only thing that made
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this a story that a republican state opened early and they had to find some bad news one 17 year old
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died and that became the headline what about let's read further the headline where it says that georgia
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overall is doing great uh reading reading oh i don't think they mentioned that they found one tragedy
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in the state that is by by any measure a huge success story and they reported the one tragedy
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all right okay here's another one brian stelter uh the headline on one of his articles says
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twitter remains silent about trump's appalling attacks against joe scarborough so it says twitter
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remains silent about it and then you read the article and it shows the quotes from people like brett
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brett hume etc doing exactly the opposite of staying silent just you know excoriating the president
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for for doing it and thinking if your if your title says twitter remains silent maybe the body of the
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article should not have all the examples in which it isn't the case just a suggestion did anybody see
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the twitter remaining silent about that has twitter remain silent on anything twitter doesn't know how
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to remain silent it was the opposite and by the way does anybody think that there are any does anybody
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think that there's one republican or a conservative who thinks that the president's trump about murderous
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alleged murderer joe scarborough there's no evidence he murdered anybody but the president's blaming him
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and i would say the conservatives have basically one opinion which is number one scarborough had it coming
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because he's been lying about the president for years and and certainly worse lies than that
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because the president's lie was just sort of silly i don't think anybody took it too seriously
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except you know maybe some nuts but but scarborough has been calling the president a traitor to the
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country and a and a russian puppet for years isn't that way worse because that was that was sold as a real
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news that's way worse than the president doing this offhand tweet before he goes golfing that nobody really
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took too seriously um so that's the first thing is that i don't think there are any conservatives who
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think it was unfair to go hard at joe scarborough with some fake allegations because it just feels like it's
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a political season and you know it's going both ways and yeah everybody's just defcon ten at this point
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but i also don't think there are any conservatives who think thought it was uh kind to the you know the
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family members of the deceased so i haven't heard anybody say oh you know that's no problem
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pretty much everybody has the same opinion oh that's kind of bad for the family members
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at the same time nobody cares how hard he went at scarborough so i don't know there's much to that story
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um alan dershowitz found a new way to cause trouble by writing an opinion that mandatory vaccinations
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would be constitutional now what happened to alan dershowitz when he gave a legal opinion about the
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constitution uh he was called many anti-semitic things to which i think to myself how in the world
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do you get from a constitutional opinion from a constitutional scholar all the way to
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an anti-semitic attack like i don't even connect those things
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you've got to try pretty hard to to make it an alan dershowitz problem so when i saw the pushback on
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that i thought oh it's people who don't understand how lawyers work lawyers will get a guilty person off
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if it's their lawyer job lawyers will if they're doing their job they'll argue what is or is not
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constitutional independent of what they would like it to be that's the job they're not talking about
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their own opinion that's the job they're talking about what the law is and i even saw that uh
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stick sax and hammer 666 you all know him um replied back to alan and on the topic of the
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constitutionality of vaccinations and he said to alan uh you're rich alan why not why not just have a
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luxury bunker built and stay in there since the world scares you so badly and i thought to myself
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i didn't see anywhere in his opinion where he was scared of the world or scared of anything
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it just wasn't there he wasn't he wasn't not a scared he wasn't not afraid he wasn't afraid it just
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wasn't even there he simply talked about what the constitution does and does not allow with some context
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historically i you know is that is that something you should attack alan dershowitz for it is it is it
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personally alan dershowitz problem that he interprets the constitution to be you know objectively allowing
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this now i'm not giving you my opinion because i know i'm going to get attacked next somebody's going
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to hear this and say the cartoonist he wants to line us up and give us these unproven vaccinations
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no you also have not heard my opinion have you you know that i'm going to be accused of having an
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opinion that people don't like but i have not expressed my opinion have i i have expressed no opinion on
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that i will talk about it and it goes like this the as i understand that president trump's reservations
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about vaccinations in general have to do with the fact that they're given to very young kids
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and that they're combined so it's not one vaccination it's a it's a bunch of vaccinations put into one shot
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and there's some question about that because it has never been tested um as a totality individual
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things have been tested but hasn't been tested if you give it to a kid all at once so there are
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reasonable adults who say hey is that good enough is it good enough that we've tested them individually
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because i got some questions now i don't know the answer i'm not i don't have any insight into that
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so i don't have an opinion of how safe or unsafe that is it's certainly a question i'd like to know
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the answer to you know how how safe are there we'd all like to know that but this shot would be for
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adults primarily i don't know that young kids would get it probably not right but it's going to be
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voluntary it would be for adults and it would not be combined with other shots now if you're
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primary concerns are children and combining it with other shots neither of those apply
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so it would be more safe at least we don't know it's more safe let me say it more i'll be more
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technically accurate we don't know how safe it would be but the two concerns children and combining it
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with other stuff don't exist for this one just saying so if you're assessing your personal risk
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just take into consideration that this is not like other vaccines because the two biggest risk factors
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are not present with this one it might have its own risks so i'm not telling you you should or should
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not take it that's different uh bill gates said everyone should get it well the whole point of it
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is that you should try to get as many people to take it right there wouldn't be much point in having
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it if you didn't try to get a lot of people to take it so i get that um single vaccines often use
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multiple adjuvants make a single vaccine problematic for everyone so the question would be um so i'll i'll
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accept the general statement that every vaccine has risk but would you also accept the general
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statement that the more things you were you combine that with the more your risk goes up that's all so
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even an individual vaccine is a combination of things and you can't really drive the risk to zero
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but it's less than if you combine it with even more stuff i would think that would be common sense
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court case came out in a in the funniest possible way which we wish that it would
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uh so i forget which what the claim was but rachel maddow was
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accused of saying something but their defense was that uh that rachel maddow was full of shit
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so the defense was that the show is opinion and rhetorical hyperbole and that maddow engages in
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quote exaggeration of the facts so as long as long as she has a show which by its nature
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does not tell you the truth it's okay that she didn't tell the truth that time
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because the context of the show is not the truth now how would you like to be
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a person who's been believing msnbc all the time you've been watching it and you thought that when
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you're watching rachel maddow that it was something like the news and then you find out in an actual
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court case where people are under oath that that the rachel maddow team said um no we're not really
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even we're not attempting to tell you the truth because if you think about it by branding themselves
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as opinion and rhetorical hyperbole and exaggeration exaggeration of the facts they're saying directly
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it is not our intention to give you the truth think about that they're not saying that we made a
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mistake sometimes that would just be normal i i wouldn't hold it against any news organization to
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make a mistake that's got to be just routine if they corrected it well i'm okay with that probably
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but imagine telling your audience we don't intend to tell you the truth because that's what it says
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right they're not saying we used to be an opinion and hyperbole show but we're not going to do that
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anymore they're saying directly that's who we are and therefore presumably it means we'll keep doing it
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and people will still watch it and they'll still interpret it as true it's a funny world
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all right let's talk about uh how would you like to be joe biden and watching the the discussions on
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social media and in the news uh they seem to be focusing on how he will be removed have you noticed
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that i always tell you about making making you think past the sale the sale in this case is will
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joe biden be removed or confirmed as the uh nominee that's the question but people are no longer asking
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that question have you noticed that people are asking the question past that which is how is it going
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to be done will it be done before the convention will it be done during the convention will it happen
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after the convention and then the vice president can kind of slip in there more easily if you're
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talking about how it will be done and you've already accepted that oh it's going to be done we don't know
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when that's going to be done uh that's not a good place to be is it it's not a good place to be at all
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so let's talk about uh hydroxychloroquine now i'm interested in hydroxychloroquine
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um 80 of it is because of the psychological political part which i find fascinating 20 of my interest is
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because hey it might work but you know there there are a bunch of other things that also
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hey those might work too so i don't have a you know a special obsession with hydroxychloroquine in fact
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my estimate is there's no more than a you know 30 40 chance that it makes a difference we don't know
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you but some interesting things the first interesting thing is that it's clear in the comments as i'm
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reading through twitter that the people who only watch the news on the right believe it's a fact
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that the drug doesn't work and that it's dangerous on top of it so people watch cnn msnbc
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reading new york times they think that's actually a fact but they're having trouble understanding the
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news if that's a fact because in my world it's simply not a fact it's something we're still trying
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to figure out so my world makes sense because if we're still trying to figure it out what would
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that predict you would see in the world what would predict you'd see that trials are still underway
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and indeed there's a story uh scott uh gottlieb md was uh tweeting about this it's something called
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the recovery trial i think that's the name of the trial recovery uh like a brand name and or you know
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just the name for the project i guess and they they thought that they would take a look at it before
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they were done to see if there was any danger and if they'd had anybody die because they'd seen the
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other the other warnings and the lancet etc so they looked at their data and they found that there
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were no particular side effects that were deadly so they decided to continue on with the trial
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so how do the people who believe it's a fact that it doesn't work and we know it's dangerous that's a
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fact they believe how do they understand their world when they see a professional medical organization
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that has all the information they have they have all the same access to information have looked at it
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all and decided it's not a fact how do they explain their world my world doesn't need any explaining
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because everything's playing out exactly the way i expect oh we don't know therefore it makes sense
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we are still testing if your world is not compatible meaning that you have a belief that doesn't explain
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what you're seeing maybe rethink your beliefs maybe rethink them let's talk some more about hydroxychloroquine
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one of the reasons that it's so hard to figure out what's going on with this thing is that first of all
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they have tests of only people who are near death that doesn't tell you as much as it should
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they also have the test without using the zinc that doesn't tell you if it works with the zinc
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because they didn't test it now we're hearing that azithromycin might be the dangerous part
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so maybe you should leave out the azithromycin i just read that today for the first time
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i don't know if it's true just read it today so so nothing is apples to apples but people are if you if
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you read it quickly it sounds like it is so people are acting like it's apples to apples but all of our
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other information is just a different set of information with different variables that doesn't
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compare it to the other information so we have lots of it it just doesn't work for making decisions
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yet one of those is costa rica so there's a there's an account online uh that is promoting all the good
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news about hydroxychloroquine i don't know if it's just a citizen who's trying to help i don't know
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if it if there's any kind of sponsorship behind it or anything so i don't know anything about the
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account but i follow it because it has lots of information but i don't i don't assume that it's
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all true or accurate so one of the things that was tweeted is that costa rica apparently is doing
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an amazingly good job at controlling their virus and their deaths amazingly good it's also true that
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in the beginning of the crisis they called china and said what do we do china told them several things
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to do including hydroxychloroquine and give it to people early on first symptoms and so they started
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doing that turns out that costa rica is a producer of hydroxychloroquine so they they make it in country
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so they had enough so they had enough they decided to use it and the result is one of the lowest curves i
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mean it basically wasn't it didn't even curve up they they flattened it before it was even up
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basically they flattened it on the ground you know just where just this total flat line when everybody
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else was going up now does that mean hydroxychloroquine works well our little brains make us think that
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right because well here's the situation they used it they got the best result boom done no unfortunately
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not you want it to be true i'm seeing in the comments somebody saying it's also an island
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costa rica is not an island people it's not an island it's connected to you know a landmass it's not
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an island i've been to costa rica and i promise you i drove there no i didn't i didn't drive all the
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way but it was there was uh there was no need for going across water all right um so here's the thing
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costa rica is also in a warm place right yeah costa rica is central america um costa rica is warm
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what is the other country that's also warm that's having terrible problems
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it feels like the warm countries are doing better right africa not so bad as we thought it would be
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and somebody said mexico wasn't so bad i don't know if that's true i'd have to do a fact check on that
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but here's the problem if the only countries that are doing well are also the warm ones and we know
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that the weather probably has a big big impact can't really tell it's just there's just too much
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that's different so you got that going on um and so i asked this question
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uh i tweeted it i said are there any countries that are routinely using hydroxychloroquine for
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first symptoms the way the way costa rica is is there anybody else who's doing it just as much as
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they're doing it but getting a bad result so i was looking for the counter example i'm looking for any
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country ideally in a in a not so warm climate um and not an island island doesn't count uh brazil just
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started using it i believe brazil only just started hydroxychloroquine so they're not an example
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uh and but i don't want to do the uh the warm countries so forget about central america
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give give me something above central america that doesn't have the warmth that use hydroxychloroquine
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early now it wasn't brazil brazil did not use it early um and and and is doing poorly all right so the test
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is give me this on twitter the test is they used it early it's not one of these hot countries toward
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the equator and they did not get a good result and did not get a good result so give me that example
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um so there's of course big news about the president wearing not wearing a mask to golf
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and then of course great britain is all buzzing about dominique cummins aide to the prime minister
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who apparently did some traveling and saw his i don't know his parents or his kid or something
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and i have the same feeling about all of these leaders who are not doing what the
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under what they're telling the underlings to do i don't really care do you do you really care if
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uh dominique cummins took a drive and cheated a little bit i mean i don't know if he did cheat but
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do you care do you care i don't care do you care that the president didn't wear a mask while golfing
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i don't care i don't care i don't care at all because i assume that every person who was with him
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had had a test that day and they weren't that close i mean it's outdoors it's warm i don't care at all
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so i think all of these uh looking for the hypocrite stories are not landing because frankly well
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well let me ask you uh let me ask you this question because you will not be arrested for your answer
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how many of you have violated the guidelines since since you knew what the guidelines were
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so from the moment they said all right don't do this kind of socializing stay six feet away
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etc tell me in the comments how many of you have cheated at least once
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how many of you have cheated in the comments while we're waiting for those comments to come
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here's my assumption i think most people have cheated not everybody i'm gonna say 75 percent maybe
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i think 75 percent have cheated at least once and and here's my my feeling
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if people only cheat when nobody's watching that's probably fine because if you cheat in a way that
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you had let's say 100 people over to your house and you had a house party everybody would know so
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people are not cheating in these like big group ways without getting caught i mean that's a whole
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different story but if somebody saw one person you know somebody snuck away to be with their
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girlfriend or girlfriend or boyfriend i don't know i don't know i'm just not going to worry about
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that and this goes back to my theory about friction there was never any thought that uh yeah i'm looking
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at all the comments are coming in now uh there have been a number of people who say not once
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i'm looking at the ratio let's say so we've got about 50 50
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not bad a lot of you have not cheated even once
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very impressive those of you have not cheated do you have kids because if you had kids and you
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didn't let them play with a friend i would be surprised but i'd be impressed
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uh i won't admit it somebody says at my doctor's office no one wore masks
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well it looks like you've all not all of you but many of you have uh have cheated but i'm surprised
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how many of you have not somebody got a massage wow that's that's a little bit of taking a chance
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or maybe not i suppose if the massage therapist uh wore a mask and washed his or her hands you'd be
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fine all right um i guess my only point is that i don't expect my leaders to be any more perfect
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than the citizens that they lead that whole hypocrisy thing i i never get on board with the hypocrisy
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thing but you know i agree that maybe it's better if they do a little role modeling but aren't we way
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past that with president trump is there anybody left right or center who looks at the president and
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says i'll be more like that i don't think so i think i think we all realize that he's such a unique
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character that we look at him as he's just doing his thing and we make our own decisions i just don't
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see people saying i'm going to be like him and you know i just don't see it
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so joda joda goldberg uh somebody is prompting me in the comments to comment about that so i guess uh
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joda goldberg is not too happy about uh kaylee mckenanny and her job as a spokesperson thinks
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she's thinks she's a little too uh i don't know maybe maybe aggressive or combat or combative
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um but the funniest thing about that is that uh joda goldberg he looks like a werewolf now
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he said uh because uh you know he hasn't cut his hair it looks like he's letting his beard get a
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little scruffy and uh he just turned full werewolf and the whole time i was looking at the interview
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that's all i could think is i think you're a werewolf now well i think a lot of us are going
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to turn into werewolves if we can't get haircuts um
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all right that's all for now um i will be doing a few more of the evening periscopes um as the
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country is opening up and i'm feeling that our spirits are lifting and things are getting back to
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normal and i'm going to declare that this weekend is victory victory and what that means is that
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if we get let's say several days from now and there's not a gigantic spike in infections
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not so large that it crashes the hospitals we're back we're back i think that's where we're at
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so as we get back the evening the evening periscopes were really to you know fill a need
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and uh i may open up my evenings at some point not tonight tonight i'll be back and i'll talk