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00:00:00.000 this thing to do so many things at once. Look at it go. Okay. Owen's sliding in. I dig it.

00:00:06.540 Good morning, everybody. Happy 420.

00:00:13.440 Yes. Happy, happy 420. Oh my gosh. Good morning, you guys. So as Marcella said,

00:00:23.740 it's april 20th 2026 otherwise known as happy 420. um if you don't know look it up

00:00:32.860 so owen's just coming on here all good you guys we have so many topics to cover

00:00:40.140 on a monday with a whole fresh week ahead of us good morning owen good morning how are you

00:00:46.300 say it louder for me i said how are you oh you sound so far away i'm good so you guys um i don't

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00:01:42.060 oh yeah

00:01:44.120 that was

00:01:46.200 that was kind of a good 420 clip

00:01:48.500 in his spaceship and everything

00:01:50.560 yeah

00:01:52.220 I liked when he did those fake backgrounds

00:01:54.280 or maybe they were real

00:01:55.960 or was it real

00:01:57.820 yeah

00:01:58.400 we'll never know

00:02:00.420 alright you guys so I hope everyone had a great weekend

00:02:04.440 Owen you were quite busy

00:02:06.060 doing your spaces

00:02:07.220 both days that was amazing

00:02:09.660 how were they

00:02:11.220 it went great yeah a lot of people came and uh it was a great conversation so as always

00:02:17.460 and marcella your weekend was good yeah i just uh worked you know that's what a lawyer does

00:02:24.640 bless you um same for me i i think i spent the day in my pajamas yesterday like sort of working

00:02:34.780 sort of like getting things done but nothing exciting really happens so if you are living

00:02:40.120 vicariously through any of us, those were your options. So good. Um, so, okay. I thought I'd

00:02:48.780 start us off with a little bit of moon news. We haven't done moon news in a while and it's not

00:02:54.620 really news, but, uh, the captain, um, oh my gosh, I almost forgot his name again. Reed Wiseman. I

00:03:01.420 know why his name escapes me so he took this video with his iphone uh during a an earth setting so

00:03:11.500 instead of a sunset it was an earth set and it's pretty cool and he just said like never ever in

00:03:17.580 in a lifetime did he ever think he'd see something like this so what you're looking at is he's looking

00:03:23.260 at the moon and behind it is the earth as it's about to set behind the moon so let's just take

00:03:29.340 a look because we'll never see that maybe and you can hear the camera shutter from the other

00:03:42.540 Astronauts was taking it.

00:03:57.340 It looks so pristine.

00:04:03.340 Dude.

00:04:12.540 There we go.

00:04:24.880 It's pretty cool.

00:04:26.680 So I just thought I'd share that because we'd like to get a little moon news in when we can.

00:04:30.400 It's not every day you have news from the moon.

00:04:33.800 So I was looking at the news stories that Owen was putting together and Marcella.

00:04:39.620 and um this one gave me nightmares marcella oh no that was okay can can i say i have a dream of

00:04:49.360 winning that type of race and this can become my it's possible now so go ahead and show all right

00:04:57.280 it is possible and i would like to shout out brian romley for ruining my life with this but um

00:05:02.120 we're going to talk about the robo robo the robot marathon on the other side of this horrific i'm

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00:06:08.180 I can take this one.

00:06:20.920 That's me running.

00:06:23.640 Me getting out of bed.

00:06:31.680 And there was with humans on the other side. 0.99

00:06:34.040 oh my god you guys stop i could take on that head i would just kick it with everything i had 0.95

00:06:44.820 but imagine them like running through our streets with like ars that's what i picture i don't know 0.95

00:06:50.640 about you marcella tell us what that was all about though that was in beijing china and that

00:06:57.980 is the half marathon 13.1 miles and it was run with humans and robots at the same time um the

00:07:05.020 humanoid robot the one is called lightning uh finished the top the e-town half marathon is

00:07:12.460 called and it finished at 50 minutes and 20 sec 26 seconds which is a world record because it beat

00:07:20.940 the world record of the human jacob clip plimo 57 minutes and 20 seconds so it beat it by seven

00:07:30.620 minutes wow um so now i can just buy a robot put my name tag on it and have it run and i can win

00:07:39.980 the marathon so that's my plan now so 100 robots ran this half marathon uh different companies as

00:07:49.100 we saw the really little tiny one with the big head um that was cute so it was just a an attempt

00:07:56.300 to try new things what you call cute i call terrifying oh my god that head i was like do we

00:08:03.420 need this head running oh my gosh all right owen could you take on these robots well first i would

00:08:09.420 clarify it's not a world record for humans i mean that to me this is a different category of record

00:08:14.380 it might be the world record for robots but i don't know if i would count it i don't think you

00:08:18.960 can humanoid robot record yeah but i don't know i mean i i certainly think we're going to be

00:08:24.580 seeing more of this in terms of capabilities coming out of robots and you know i understand

00:08:30.180 why you're a little scared i mean it could turn into the whole terminator 2 sort of scenario where

00:08:35.260 you've got this massive thing coming after you um and i think police are already looking into

00:08:41.500 use cases like this mostly with the robot dogs at this point but they're looking to chase down

00:08:45.500 criminals with robots and right now i think it's mostly just to surveil them and keep track of them

00:08:50.940 but you never know when they might just move into having them do arrests i'm into the robot dogs

00:08:57.020 even oh my god imagine robot horses i get so you guys you know i love animals i get so nervous when

00:09:03.260 i see a dog or a horse like in a riot area or like there's guns or knives and i'm just like

00:09:09.260 you know, some psychopath's going to do something terrible and I can't stand it.

00:09:14.400 So I'd be in for letting those dogs just do something else than possibly get hurt or sniff

00:09:22.580 out bombs. So that would be kind of fun. But yeah, so anyway, the robot thing terrifies me.

00:09:27.360 Greg Gutfeld many, many, many years ago is the one who started me on my journey of being terrified

00:09:34.700 when we were at his show, when it first started. And during a commercial break, he was talking

00:09:40.360 about, this is so long ago before I even really understood anything about AI, but he was talking

00:09:45.400 about AI and the robots. And he said, if you tell a robot, your job is to go to every house

00:09:55.580 and get the cucumbers out of the refrigerator. That's your job. And he was like, so if they

00:10:01.960 come to your house and you're in the way and you're like no you can't come in my house he's

00:10:06.780 like that thing just has one job get the cucumbers it has nothing to do with the people the house

00:10:12.540 what's in your way is just get the cucumbers and i'm like oh my god i never thought about it that

00:10:17.640 way you know like it has a mission and he's like they'll end up killing you to get your cucumbers

00:10:22.780 so greg sort of ruined my life like that and now that i've learned that these robots are like

00:10:29.040 becoming sentient and they're like teaching each other things and they're doing workarounds and

00:10:34.240 they're re-educating themselves and programming themselves i'm even more horrified yeah i mean

00:10:41.720 on one hand it does amaze me how close we are now to skynet and terminator and no one seems really

00:10:49.540 that concerned about it like you know elon is doing this thing where he's putting all the data

00:10:54.160 centers in space and that looks almost exactly like skynet really it really is almost exactly

00:10:59.140 that playbook other than hopefully the part where it turns on us but you know it's like that's

00:11:04.180 exactly the same technology and exactly the same sort of promises that were made when the skynet

00:11:09.140 was launched in the matrix movies and um you know these robots are moving steadily in the direction

00:11:15.400 of these terminator sort of capabilities and it just seems like nobody's really paying much

00:11:19.620 attention to it and they're like getting together marcella and they're like communicating with

00:11:24.100 each other and they're like here's what we can do what are you for you probably love this i love

00:11:29.000 this this is what i love this is i want my own robot army i i you know it can change our lives

00:11:37.340 you know like if we have to fight a war we no longer have to have anyone die you know it's

00:11:43.540 kind of like easier i watch too much anime too much japan in me so i'm all for it so is everyone

00:11:52.800 going to like go out on the streets with their robot now i'm sure there'll be rules he's so

00:11:58.720 sure there'll be rules eventually there's always laws once we have deaths once like 50 000 people

00:12:06.160 die they'll do something yeah yeah we we talked about this right oh and we talked about the the

00:12:13.360 the first uh robot killing the first uh whatever you know it's gonna happen it happened with cars

00:12:20.320 it's even happening in the more context with everything in ukraine especially i think there

00:12:24.060 was a story just recently that they're looking at replacing a bunch of their frontline soldiers

00:12:27.960 with robots something like 2 000 robots or you know some massive number of them and there's been

00:12:33.200 other stories that it basically is like a killing field for humans if you go into the front lines in

00:12:37.360 ukraine now because it's just full of drones and robots and you can't survive so it's i mean that

00:12:42.780 part of reality is already here it just hasn't been used anywhere else yet yeah um all right

00:12:50.220 So that was your, uh, robot robots, read news, your robot news, your robots run marathons.

00:12:57.260 I mean, look at how they're progressing.

00:12:59.280 Um, okay.

00:13:00.120 So you guys, I have to play a, this is like, so out of order into things right now.

00:13:07.420 Um, but let me skip that.

00:13:11.340 Let me, let me just stay over here in this part of the world.

00:13:13.660 Okay.

00:13:13.920 This is just really quick.

00:13:15.100 I do want to show this cause this could become a big deal.

00:13:17.640 So did you guys know there was an earthquake in Japan last night? Or yesterday, it was a 4.7 magnitude. And now they have all these tsunami warnings. So I saw a video where the first tsunami waves are coming in. And do you guys remember that tsunami? What was that in Thailand? It was like 100 years ago.

00:13:41.600 no, I was, when was that? Like in 2000 something, the early 2000s or was that 7.4, you guys, 7.4,

00:13:51.680 I'm sorry, magnitude 7.4 earthquake. So now here's the first wave coming in. This is so scary.

00:14:00.640 so this is the coast of japan

00:14:05.160 and that one that we saw years ago that horror of hearing that the water went all receded all

00:14:17.640 the way out and then this massive wave came in but look at all the structures right here i'm so

00:14:23.640 worried for them well they had a tsunami in uh japan did and where fukushima was you know their

00:14:31.700 nuclear power plant was uh destroyed and that's you know that was reasoned that yeah that was

00:14:39.880 recent yeah so i'm sure they were a little afraid yeah i mean earthquakes are pretty scary with the

00:14:45.940 water like that so just keep your eye on japan hope that they're okay what did you hear about

00:14:51.240 Well, it was actually a 7.7 earthquake magnitude.

00:14:58.480 I think maybe an earlier one was 4.5 and then another one at 4.9.

00:15:03.540 But I think there was a bigger one.

00:15:05.820 Multiple.

00:15:07.280 Yeah.

00:15:07.800 So we'll have to see what happens from the tsunami aspect.

00:15:11.140 But, yeah, it looks pretty bad.

00:15:12.620 I mean, that's a pretty high magnitude.

00:15:15.000 Lang said it's just a fish delivery system.

00:15:17.540 Mm-hmm.

00:15:18.520 so funny i'm glad i don't live near an ocean that's subject to those sorts of things

00:15:25.540 oh flavor oh oh and do you know where it was in japan uh it looks like it was on the east coast

00:15:33.600 and what i can see um that it was like right sort of in the middle of the country or the you know

00:15:40.520 if you measure it from top to bottom and it looks relatively close to the coast so i you know it

00:15:47.040 doesn't look very far away but um it was offshore on the eastern coast scary um another story i saw

00:15:56.840 owen that you were talking about today was uh president trump is building that monument

00:16:04.060 and is there controversy about it yeah well i mean of course just like everything trump does

00:16:12.420 there's lawsuits and they tried to stop it and an appeals court came in and said he can keep

00:16:17.860 building things um but i i think uh certainly it's one of those things that anybody who supports

00:16:24.360 trump thinks this is great and some anybody who doesn't like trump thinks this is the worst thing

00:16:28.920 ever and doesn't want it to happen so it looks nice i think the controversy right now is more

00:16:34.180 focused on the ballroom but that's been allowed to proceed and so i think they're going through

00:16:38.660 the same sort of thing with the monument but i don't understand why anyone would be opposed to

00:16:42.880 it i mean it seems like a perfectly fine thing it seems like it fits in with the architectural

00:16:46.380 scheme of things um it doesn't seem out of place and i'm not really sure what why anyone

00:16:51.880 you haven't had a new monument in a long time like why not have a new monument

00:16:55.140 yeah i don't know marcella monument ballroom do you have an opinion either way well i mean the

00:17:03.660 monument I think it was meant for the 250th year or whatever I don't know how fast they can build

00:17:11.620 the arch but uh seems like time's ticking so um I don't see why anybody would be opposed to it I

00:17:18.900 guess just the roads would change there'd be more traffic more more um more tourists would uh want to

00:17:26.580 uh drive by there so maybe maybe locals uh have an issue with the traffic

00:17:32.720 okay just checking that out but it can bring money so to the to dc right first yeah right

00:17:43.220 right right um okay so now here's a little intermezzo before we get into some more serious

00:17:50.180 stuff just in case you needed to know this we have a lesson from scott adams all right here's

00:17:59.780 a lesson on how to use one of these soap dispensers this is a method and it says open on the top but

00:18:09.140 it doesn't tell you if that's pressing or twisting or jiggling or pressing and twisting so if it's

00:18:15.700 closed and i find that i can only open them accidentally by that i mean i try everything

00:18:21.620 and then something works but i don't know why and so for maybe i don't know a decade or so that's

00:18:27.780 the only way i've been opening it it's like the random process but then if you have anybody else

00:18:32.260 who uses your sink and uses a soap i don't know who does it in my house but for a decade there's

00:18:39.360 somebody, somebody who comes in the house and then closes it. Now to reopen it, it's different

00:18:46.640 than when I first get it. Cause when I first get it, I'm like, Hmm, you know, I'll play with it

00:18:50.640 until I figure out, open it and make it produce a soap. But when I go to use it and somebody else

00:18:57.040 has already closed it, you know, usually you've got stuff in your hands and you don't want to

00:19:02.280 pick it up and do the things you want to do. So you're trying to sort of figure it out with one

00:19:06.460 hand. Um, that's impossible. So what you do, well, this is what I do. I eventually, uh, I yell

00:19:13.540 the F word really loudly. And then I take the whole thing and I throw it as hard as I can

00:19:18.460 against some hard surface, uh, until it falls apart and the soap comes out and then I throw it

00:19:23.400 away. Then I buy a new one. And then when my hands are clean, I jiggle it and jiggle it and press it

00:19:30.440 and jiggle it. And then eventually it opens. Uh, or sometimes I ask somebody else to do it

00:19:35.580 and they'll open it right away and they'll say, how'd you do that? How'd you do that? Oh,

00:19:39.400 stop, stop. Don't walk away. Show me how you do that. And usually they'll say, well, I'm not sure.

00:19:44.700 I just sort of jiggled it and just opened it. So that's how you open it. If it's new, you jiggle

00:19:49.480 it until it's open and you just try to guess. You might get lucky. Once your hands are unclean,

00:19:54.500 if somebody closes it, you should throw it against a hard surface and break it so you're

00:19:58.380 You're not tempted to try to use it again.

00:20:00.600 And that's your lesson on soap.

00:20:04.160 That's great advice.

00:20:05.300 That is great advice.

00:20:07.640 Bravo.

00:20:09.000 Do you guys have problems?

00:20:09.880 It was always the most entertaining when Scott was struggling with his technology.

00:20:13.520 With anything.

00:20:16.060 Even when, like, anything.

00:20:17.160 It's technology.

00:20:18.020 I mean, it's mechanical technology, but it's technology.

00:20:22.200 And who would close it, you guys?

00:20:24.140 so a lot of times if a cleaning company comes to your house to clean, they, they close them.

00:20:29.720 So that's what happens. They wipe them all down and they push and turn and they close them.

00:20:34.980 I don't know. But anyway, even the, even the soap, happy eye doc, even the soap got to him.

00:20:42.840 And then for those that were asking the comments, um, not that a tsunami and the robots weren't

00:20:50.220 serious news, but I, it was the lack of a better word. So I think I meant before getting onto more

00:20:56.800 heavy news. Okay. So, um, other stories, Owen, that you posted that I wanted to talk about.

00:21:03.840 Um, this one here was about the, well, let's play the clip and then let's talk about it. Hang on.

00:21:11.320 Here we go. This was a historic day in America and a historic day for veterans, a historic day

00:21:17.920 FOR MODERN MEDICINE, YOU KNOW,

00:21:20.200 IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE'VE GOT

00:21:21.100 6,000 VETERANS THAT ARE DYING

00:21:23.420 EACH YEAR FROM SUICIDE.

00:21:24.680 MANY OF THEM HAVE MENTAL

00:21:25.880 ILLNESS.

00:21:26.420 THE BATTLE ON THE GROUND IS OVER,

00:21:29.120 BUT IT STILL RAGES IN THEIR MIND.

00:21:31.840 AND THEY HAVE TROUBLE

00:21:32.920 ASSIMILATING, THEY HAVE TROUBLE

00:21:34.200 HOLDING JOBS, THEY HAVE TROUBLE

00:21:36.020 BEING A GOOD PARTNER IN THE

00:21:37.360 RELATIONSHIP.

00:21:38.060 THEY SUFFER FROM THESE MENTAL

00:21:39.200 CONDITIONS.

00:21:39.680 AND THEY KNOW IT.

00:21:40.920 AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME

00:21:42.100 PROMISING REPORTS NOW FROM SOME

00:21:45.280 OF THESE TREATMENTS LIKE THE ONE

00:21:46.900 THAT YOU MENTIONED IN A BROADER

00:21:48.480 CLASS THAT WE CALL MEDICALLY

00:21:50.140 SEROTONIN 2A AGONISTS, ALSO

00:21:52.920 KNOWN AS PSYCHEDELICS, PEOPLE 0.93

00:21:55.460 HAVE DESCRIBED BEING ABLE TO

00:21:57.060 RECONCILE WITH THINGS FROM THE

00:21:59.340 PAST.

00:21:59.900 WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEY

00:22:02.020 WORK, BUT THE STORIES ARE

00:22:04.480 DRAMATIC.

00:22:04.900 WE ALSO HAVE RANDOMIZED CONTROL

00:22:07.360 TRIALS THAT SHOW A 30 TO 40%

00:22:10.060 REMISSION RATE FOR SOME OF THESE

00:22:11.740 CONDITIONS LIKE PTSD WHERE

00:22:13.120 NOTHING ELSE REALLY WORKS WELL

00:22:14.900 AND WE'VE KNOWN THAT FOR A LONG

00:22:16.720 time. Yeah, Owen, I'll let you grab this one first. Yeah, well, I mean, you might have noticed

00:22:23.860 Joe Rogan in the background there. I think it was probably a really meaningful thing for him. I think

00:22:28.340 that's an issue he's cared about. He's had some guests on to talk about that at more length

00:22:31.920 in terms of, you know, Ibogaine and some of the other therapies that they're looking into for

00:22:37.600 veterans to help them with PTSD. And so I think it's a great step in the right direction to help

00:22:43.160 more human trials happen in this regard which i think is the the focus of the executive order

00:22:47.740 was to just increase the human trials because it's been an area where because of the way they've

00:22:52.460 classified these drugs they haven't been able to do the research and it's been kind of like this

00:22:57.580 you know you'd never get funding you'd never get any approvals to be able to do this kind of

00:23:02.460 research and so i think this is meant to open that up which i think is a great step

00:23:06.040 i will say just based on what i know that there are certain dangers with these drugs it's not

00:23:11.540 like everyone should go out and do these, especially if you don't have one of these

00:23:15.840 conditions. But even if you do, you know, I've heard plenty of stories from people saying like

00:23:21.280 people who take psychedelics who have schizophrenia or something like that could potentially have much

00:23:26.600 worse impacts versus someone who is mentally healthier. But I think for certain conditions

00:23:32.440 like PTSD and some of these traumas, it has been shown to be helpful in some of the testing they've

00:23:38.560 done. And I think we need more testing and hopefully it'll lead to some kind of more approvals

00:23:43.860 for being able to use these things to help people. So I think it's a great step. And I think it's

00:23:49.940 something that no other president would have done just because it is such a taboo topic. And so I'm

00:23:55.060 really glad that Trump has shown the courage to do this. Yeah, I like it too. I mean, it kind of

00:23:59.620 falls under where he would say right to try. I mean, if you're suffering like that, like our

00:24:04.440 poor veterans that are suffering it's already abysmal the care that they're getting it's it's

00:24:10.440 heartbreaking but marcella what do you you know what do you i i like it personally because what

00:24:15.400 if it works right they're already in agony if it doesn't work they're already in agony if it works

00:24:20.700 my god like what what could be better than that um so scott would love this um change he was always

00:24:30.040 for this and it's it's also interesting that it's near 420 so that's that's lovely um i think it's

00:24:37.620 great to try new uh more natural therapies uh you know it's not not all of them are are fully natural

00:24:47.620 psychedelics uh but this is not uh the executive order was not to approve these um like owen said

00:24:56.300 is just to give a pathway to have more research done on them. And hopefully it does create,

00:25:04.520 because there's so much government involved in the FDA and DEA and all of that. Hopefully it does

00:25:10.440 do what it's supposed to, this, this executive order and nobody will appeal it and so on and

00:25:15.820 so forth because they, the veterans, veterans and, and other people need these, these medicines.

00:25:24.080 So, Sophia, you know what? I see what you're saying and maybe this will help the veterans,

00:25:30.580 you know, however, and whatever happened, if we can help them, I think I heard Joe saying that

00:25:36.900 80% of people with one dose, one round, but it's, you know, it's with a medical team that they take

00:25:45.780 it, um, are improved and then 90% with a second dose. So yeah, let's go, let's try it. Um,

00:25:55.400 so we do have some inklings of how it works. I think a lot of these increased neuroplasticity,

00:26:00.020 which basically means like if you're kind of stuck in a loop, which is what these PTSD sort

00:26:03.780 of conditions are like, it can break out of that. And it might mean that it also would help with OCD

00:26:08.060 and some of the other mental conditions that are like that, where you're kind of stuck in a

00:26:11.420 particular way of thinking and you can't break out of it. That I think some of these psychedelics

00:26:15.720 will kind of open up your brain to rewire itself in a different way and and let you heal yourself

00:26:21.920 essentially but um they may not know the exact mechanism and you know one of my questions would

00:26:27.300 be are we actually going to see this research for some of the things like psilocybin and lsd because

00:26:33.560 i would imagine there's no patents on them so there's no way a pharma company can really profit

00:26:37.320 off of them so i'm interested to see who follows up to do this research but i think this is an area

00:26:42.460 where there's enough public support, enough people with some money behind it.

00:26:46.680 I know Tim Ferriss has donated a lot of money for this type of research.

00:26:49.700 And so I think there are people with money that are willing to back this.

00:26:53.200 So I'm hoping that'll come through and they'll be able to do the research they need to get the approvals.

00:26:57.760 Yeah, and I think by the time you get to this point, you've kind of tried everything.

00:27:02.560 You've gone to your therapy.

00:27:04.200 You've done all the normal pathways that people tell you.

00:27:08.400 And besides just doping you up on more drugs, you know, and then you live like a zombie and

00:27:14.860 nothing's, you know, better. I, yeah, just if, if they can study this and there's like a direct

00:27:21.080 correlation and, and doesn't this, um, also help. And I think those GLP ones also help with addiction.

00:27:28.860 So a lot of these people become addicted, you know, they're trying to cope. Um, and now they're

00:27:34.620 addicted to drugs or alcohol or other substances or other vices. So maybe this helps for other

00:27:42.700 issues too. I don't know. Fingers crossed on it. I hope it's promising. It seems like it is.

00:27:51.280 Okay. So moving on from there, I really thank you guys that we have to talk and we're going to talk

00:27:58.360 to other people down the road more about what's happening with these scientists that are

00:28:04.480 missing. And Oh, and I saw you posted something, Marcella, we've talked about this. Um, I think

00:28:11.500 it's pretty scary. Let me just make sure I have the right clip, but let you guys hang in there

00:28:16.400 with me. This clip's a little bit longer, but I want to see on that. Marcella and I have a

00:28:22.260 different take of maybe what could be happening and we know nothing. So honestly, we're just

00:28:26.640 speculating or do we, um, but let's, let's take a look cause this needs more attention. I hope

00:28:34.040 this is the right one. If not, I'll readjust. So take a look. The White House now probing the

00:28:49.400 disappearances of the people behind me, the deaths of 10 scientists at least. Let's break

00:28:54.020 down some of the cases. For example, let's look at Michael David Hicks. He dies at the age of

00:28:59.200 YOU KNOW, AT THE AGE OF 59

00:29:01.540 YEARS OLD, AND DAVID MICHAEL

00:29:03.100 HICKS, A LONG-TIME JPL

00:29:04.580 SCIENTIST, INVOLVED IN

00:29:05.600 ASTEROID AND COMET RESEARCH.

00:29:07.720 NO PUBLIC CAUSE OF DEATH GIVEN.

00:29:10.120 AND THEN YOU HAVE A SITUATION

00:29:11.260 LIKE MONICA REZA. 0.99

00:29:12.920 MONICA REZA VANISHED WHILE 0.99

00:29:14.980 HIKING UNDER WEIRD

00:29:16.660 CIRCUMSTANCES.

00:29:17.680 THEN YOU HAVE WILLIAM NEAL

00:29:19.160 MCCASLIN. 0.90

00:29:19.900 THIS GUY DISAPPEARED IN 0.87

00:29:21.960 FEBRUARY, DEEP TIES TO THE AIR

00:29:23.960 FORCE RESEARCH PROGRAMS.

00:29:25.380 SO EVERYONE HAS A BIT OF A

00:29:27.340 MYSTERY TO THEIR PASSING.

00:29:28.860 And people are wondering, with the very similar backgrounds, extremely bright people, extremely successful people, extremely valuable people, is this all related?

00:29:38.420 As you heard, the president can't say yes or no publicly yet, but the mystery reigns.

00:29:43.320 Let's bring in House Oversight Committee member, Missouri Congressman Eric Berthelsen, who is calling for the FBI to get involved.

00:29:49.760 Congressman, when did you first find out about this?

00:29:53.160 My office found out about it last year.

00:29:55.780 we sent a letter to the FBI about a gentleman named Matthew Sullivan who actually we had reached

00:30:01.240 out to. He was scheduled to come in for an interview. Within two weeks he had suspiciously

00:30:09.220 committed suicide. That report was referred to the Office of Inspector General. They deemed it

00:30:16.360 credible and urgent. They then referred it to the FBI. So this is not the first that we've heard of

00:30:21.800 THAT WAS THE FIRST THAT WE

00:30:24.620 BECAME AWARE OF.

00:30:26.040 THE PRESIDENT WAS BRIEFED

00:30:27.820 EXTENSIVELY YESTERDAY AND HE'S

00:30:29.420 WORRIED ABOUT IT.

00:30:30.580 YOU KNOW, WE HEAR ABOUT ALL THIS.

00:30:32.760 WE ALSO KNOW WE'RE IN A BIG-TIME 0.97

00:30:35.440 RACE WITH CHINA FOR ALL THIS, 0.96

00:30:37.180 TOO. 0.94

00:30:37.680 AND THEN PEOPLE WONDER ABOUT THE

00:30:40.280 UNDISCLOSED UFO PROGRAM THAT MORE

00:30:41.900 AND MORE PEOPLE ARE PUSHING TO

00:30:43.340 GET ANSWERS ON.

00:30:44.240 IS THERE A RELATION TO ANY OF

00:30:46.060 THAT FROM WHAT YOU COULD SHARE

00:30:47.240 WITH US?

00:30:47.800 THERE CERTAINLY IS.

00:30:48.960 SO GENERAL MCCASLIN, FOR

00:30:50.860 HE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A

00:30:51.860 PART OF THE AIR FORCE.

00:30:52.860 HE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A

00:30:54.860 PART OF THE AIR FORCE.

00:30:55.860 I THINK HE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF

00:30:57.860 THE AIR FORCE, FOR EXAMPLE, IS

00:30:59.860 SOMEONE WE REACHED OUT TO TWICE

00:31:00.860 TO TRY TO GET ANSWERS FROM.

00:31:02.860 HE IS SOMEONE WHO IS A CRITICAL

00:31:04.860 ROLE WORKING FOR THE AIR FORCE

00:31:06.860 PARTICULARLY WHEN IT CAME TO

00:31:07.860 RESEARCH.

00:31:08.860 HE WAS THE ONE THAT OVERSAUW A

00:31:11.860 LOT OF THIS ADVANCED RESEARCH.

00:31:13.860 HE WAS SOMEONE THAT WAS VERY

00:31:15.860 DIFFICULT TO GET A HOLD OF.

00:31:17.860 BUT WE REACHED OUT TO HIM TWICE

00:31:19.860 WE WOULD SEE PRESS CONFERENCES

00:31:21.860 AND WE SEE PEOPLE AND MYSTERIOUS

00:31:23.860 DEATHS, WE WOULD SEE FAMILY

00:31:25.860 MEMBERS.

00:31:26.860 WHY HAVEN'T WE HEARD MORE FROM 0.91

00:31:28.860 FAMILY MEMBERS AND ASSOCIATES

00:31:30.860 ABOUT THEIR CONCERN?

00:31:31.860 I DON'T KNOW, BRIAN.

00:31:33.860 I WISH WE WOULD.

00:31:35.860 WHAT'S REALLY DISTURBING WHEN YOU

00:31:37.860 LOOK BACK AND REFLECT ON IT,

00:31:39.860 YOU'VE GOT MONICA REZA, YOU'VE

00:31:41.860 GOT ANTHONY CHAVEZ, YOU'VE GOT

00:31:43.860 MELISSA CASIUS AND YOU HAVE

00:31:45.860 STEPHEN GARCIA, ALL OF WHICH

00:31:48.860 OR IN THE CASE OF MS. REZA,

00:31:50.600 SHE DISAPPEARED ON A HIKE WITHOUT

00:31:53.760 THEIR PHONES.

00:31:54.480 THEY JUST LITERALLY DISAPPEARED,

00:31:56.480 LEFT ALL OF THEIR DEVICES AT

00:31:58.120 HOME.

00:31:58.500 THIS IS NOT NORMAL.

00:31:59.540 THESE ARE SOME OF THE MOST

00:32:01.460 ADVANCED SCIENTISTS, RESEARCHERS

00:32:02.920 IN OUR NATION, SOME OF THE MOST

00:32:05.360 IMPORTANT PEOPLE FOR OUR NATION'S

00:32:06.560 NATIONAL SECURITY EFFORTS AND

00:32:07.940 THEY ALL JUST MYSTERIOUSLY

00:32:09.300 DISAPPEARED.

00:32:09.860 SO, I MEAN, THIS DOES HAVE ALL

00:32:11.960 THE HALLMARKS OF SOME TYPE OF

00:32:13.460 INTERNATIONAL OR FOREIGN EFFORT

00:32:14.860 BECAUSE WE'RE IN COMPETITION ON

00:32:16.220 NUCLEAR.

00:32:16.720 We're in competition on advanced weaponry.

00:32:19.440 We're in competition on getting to the moon.

00:32:21.600 And who you are in competition with?

00:32:23.080 China, Russia, Iran.

00:32:25.720 So if there's anything worthy of an all-hands-on-deck investigation, this seems to be it.

00:32:33.760 This is a rattling call to pay attention to this issue and make sure that our nation's

00:32:39.900 top scientists are safe and secure.

00:32:43.520 This is too coincidental.

00:32:45.720 WE HAVE TO BE INVESTIGATING

00:32:47.600 THIS.

00:32:48.040 WE NEED TO HAVE OUR NATION'S TOP

00:32:50.200 INVESTIGATORS, THE FBI AND EVERY

00:32:52.820 AGENCY LOOKING INTO THIS MATTER.

00:32:54.440 EIGHT HAVE BEEN FOUND

00:32:55.940 MISSING OR DEAD SINCE 2025.

00:32:59.680 SO THIS IS ONLY GOING TO GROW.

00:33:01.480 IN FACT, I KNOW ONE OF THE

00:33:02.920 SCIENTISTS THAT CAME OUT AND SAID

00:33:04.200 THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE BEING

00:33:05.620 THREATENED AND STALKED.

00:33:07.100 YEAH, WE'VE HEARD THAT FROM

00:33:09.820 MULTIPLE CASES WHERE THEY'VE

00:33:12.580 THEY'VE ALL FELT SOME FORM OF

00:33:14.660 THREAT.

00:33:15.020 AND LASTLY, IS THIS SOMETHING

00:33:18.220 DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS CAN GET BEHIND TOGETHER?

00:33:22.420 ABSOLUTELY, BRIAN.

00:33:24.460 MY OFFICE IS LEADING A JOINT

00:33:27.020 EFFORT WITH DEMOCRATS. 0.65

00:33:29.320 THIS IS A BIPARTISAN ISSUE.

00:33:31.680 WE'RE LEADING A LETTER TO THE FBI 0.92

00:33:35.160 TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ADDRESS

00:33:36.460 THIS ISSUE AND PROPERLY

00:33:37.860 INVESTIGATE THIS.

00:33:38.740 YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE

00:33:40.260 PRESS CONFERENCES WITH SOME OF

00:33:41.260 probably share your concern congressman thanks so much appreciate it thank you

00:33:50.460 owen i'm gonna come to you first but you guys isn't that crazy i just you know i see people

00:33:57.500 saying there are no coincidences scott said there aren't um i i i'm just shook because when you just

00:34:05.820 put them all together and there might be even a few more we don't know about yet and it is weird

00:34:10.220 Why isn't the family talking? I don't know, you know, maybe they were told to zip it,

00:34:15.580 but I saw so many people in the chat having different takes on who it could be, what it

00:34:21.420 could be. Owen, you start. I mean, it certainly looks suspicious to me. I mean, I think when you

00:34:28.640 get to some count like 10 or 11 or more, you know, it starts to look like there must be some

00:34:34.100 connection between some of these. I think there probably are some that might just end up being

00:34:38.660 coincidences but it does seem like a pretty long stretch to say all of these are just unrelated

00:34:44.740 random things that happened and you know when someone disappears that's not just like somebody

00:34:51.440 committed suicide and even the suicides I think we've had enough instances of these suspicious

00:34:56.300 suicides in the recent past it's not necessarily always what it appears to be even if it's ruled

00:35:02.920 a suicide for whatever reason you know I think I don't remember the person's name but I remember

00:35:06.960 there was that one case where a person was stabbed like, you know, 50 times or something.

00:35:11.000 Yeah. Suicide. Yeah. I think that was in Pennsylvania where Shapiro seemed to be

00:35:15.100 involved with covering it up. But, you know, it does seem to me like there's probably something

00:35:21.060 here. And, you know, I've I've thought myself that with our efforts to take out some of the

00:35:27.320 nuclear scientists in Iran, there certainly might be a motive to retaliate and to take out some of 0.82

00:35:32.460 our scientists. And, you know, we talked about how there could be sleeper cells all over the place.

00:35:36.280 and this might be an example of it. And I've heard people speculate that espionage is probably

00:35:41.140 the most likely thing if there is some nefarious thing going on here. So definitely something to

00:35:45.400 be worried about. But again, we don't have any real evidence yet. So we'll have to see what the

00:35:49.420 FBI can come up with. Yeah, it is getting a lot more attention now. And, you know, so I'm glad

00:35:55.900 about that. I'm glad that the reporters are actually like putting it out there when they're

00:36:00.600 talking to Trump. Marcella, um, you have an interesting perspective. I mean, what do we

00:36:06.260 know, but what do you think? You know, it's good that we're looking into it. Um, because you never

00:36:12.680 know, right. Uh, there was a university, uh, professor, I think nuclear scientist or something

00:36:19.980 like that was recently killed. Um, they, they thought, uh, you know, it was this man that killed

00:36:26.440 two of them. It was some kind of rivalry. I don't remember the exact story, but the issue about the

00:36:35.260 10 or 11 scientists or nine scientists, however you want to say it, you know, they happen at

00:36:40.740 different years, different times. I personally think it's kind of like the syndrome of when

00:36:47.240 you buy a white car, you see a white car all over the place, the same car that you bought,

00:36:52.080 you're you're seeing things connect when they really aren't connected but one of the things

00:36:59.120 that may come out of this is that and i was telling this to erica in the green room that

00:37:05.380 a lot of the scientists that work for jpl i i know a lot of them because my brother used to

00:37:11.100 work there two of my brothers uh one of the oldest jpl is jet propulsion laboratory in

00:37:17.200 uh pasadena california and it's uh nasa uh it's owned by nasa and it's uh basically lots of

00:37:26.880 really smart people scientists work there and a lot of um the people that work in this type of

00:37:34.240 job um have a lot of issues with depression they have also they lack families as well because

00:37:42.080 their whole entire persona their whole entire life is their scientific job not all of them

00:37:47.440 of course but there are some that do have those issues you know it's kind of like how many missing

00:37:55.200 fedex delivery men are out there you know it's like how many scientists are there in the world

00:38:01.280 and then we we find these 10 cases so to me it's important for this to be investigated maybe we'll

00:38:09.760 find out that some of these people did actually uh commit suicide because there is a problem

00:38:16.240 um one of the things that i found out this is separate apart from scientists is that one of

00:38:23.120 the leading like the leading cause of police officers dying is not being shot on the job but

00:38:34.000 committing suicide because i had a police officer friend that committed suicide and i had no idea

00:38:39.440 that that was like a like a thing you know so i think it's it needs to be looked into um the hikers

00:38:47.200 you know um you know that's the other thing if you're leaving your phone behind maybe you're

00:38:53.280 trying to do something to yourself while in a hike you know like they talked about this woman that

00:39:00.720 she was really smart and everything else and most women would take their phone with them

00:39:06.000 on a hike, unless you're thinking of not coming back. Like you don't want to be tracked or 0.97

00:39:11.060 something. Or you want to commit suicide. What if they maybe turned like 0.92

00:39:17.700 traitorous and they got like good offers from Beijing? Maybe they were like, oh, I got an

00:39:25.220 offer I can't refuse. I do not want to think that of these people. Okay. I'm just saying maybe.

00:39:31.020 um, and Montreal galaxy said, Marcella, many of these people declare they were not suicidal

00:39:36.240 and they were being threatened. So yeah, you know, I think, I think the thing is, is that it's

00:39:41.940 so many within a short window, which is like really what's, you know, getting a lot of the

00:39:47.060 attention. Um, but yeah. Okay. Let's see. All right. So there's definitely going to be more

00:39:55.240 on that, you guys. A lot of people are covering it. I see a lot of it on X. So we'll bring you

00:40:01.180 any updates we find. Maybe when we get the great Mr. Walter Kern back on, this is something that

00:40:07.520 is very intriguing for him and he's talking about it a lot. So maybe we can chat for a few minutes

00:40:13.680 with him about that. I'll let you know when that's coming. Okay. So it wouldn't be a Monday

00:40:19.340 without talking about iran and i don't know where that came from but it was a segue nonetheless

00:40:25.820 so again my last clip of the day okay guys um pertaining to what's going on with the strait

00:40:34.940 and iran and us here we go hey guys good morning overnight centcom announced that u.s forces

00:40:43.500 seized an iranian flagged cargo ship that was attempting to breach the naval blockade

00:40:48.620 President Trump announced the seizure on TruSocial, saying the Iranian crew refused to listen,

00:40:54.020 so our Navy ship stopped them right in their tracks by blowing a hole in the engine room.

00:40:58.520 Right now, U.S. Marines have custody of the vessel.

00:41:01.120 The ship remains in U.S. custody.

00:41:03.260 Here's what it sounded like when the guided missile destroyer USS Spruance warned the cargo ship before firing.

00:41:09.680 Vessel Tosca. Vessel Tosca. Vacate your engine room. Vacate your engine room.

00:41:16.180 We're prepared to subject you to disabling fire.

00:41:18.620 Thank you.

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