Real Coffee with Scott Adams - April 21, 2026


The Scott Adams School - 04⧸21⧸26 Lisa De Pasquale Joins The NEWS CREW. WHITEBOARD DAY!!!!


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00:00:22.400 It's time for Scott Adams School.
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00:00:27.620 Owen is here with the news.
00:00:30.720 Marcella brings the legal views.
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00:01:18.680 So, you guys, I'm so thirsty.
00:01:21.440 I can't wait to tell you who's here.
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00:02:00.740 Oh, I like that. All right, you guys, here we are. Another day at the Scott Adams School,
00:02:07.540 and we are so lucky because joining us for the first time on the morning show is Lisa DePasquale.
00:02:13.860 Do you say DePasquale? I say DePasquale. I thought so. When I said it, I'm like,
00:02:18.720 that didn't sound right. You guys, we're so lucky to have Lisa joining Marcella and Owen
00:02:24.260 of myself. It is April 21st, 2026. And oh, you guys, I have Lisa's book right here. Lisa joined
00:02:32.660 me on Locals one night and we had Kev on with us and we were chatting. So this is the Gen X 1.00
00:02:40.660 handbook for middle age. And Lisa, I was watching you and Michael Malice talk about it and all the
00:02:48.860 all the trippy stuff that he was like getting tripped back into. But then I was cracking up
00:02:54.600 cause I always tell everybody on here how much I love malice for ever and ever and ever. And then
00:03:00.180 I saw this clip of the two of you from six years ago. And this is how like I first remember Michael
00:03:06.340 and he's like thin and he always has some weird assortment of candy or soda, right? Always with
00:03:12.600 his shows and you're talking and he's just unwrapping ring pops and putting one on each
00:03:18.320 finger on both of his hands how was that for you um you know it was really great it was really um
00:03:25.520 you know inspirational made me want to keep going on my weight loss journey
00:03:32.000 i know you're talking about weight loss and he's got a table full of candy i'm like what
00:03:35.760 what's happening michael always a troll always he is you guys he is the world's
00:03:41.520 best troll and if you don't get that you just don't get him yeah well you know it's funny
00:03:48.160 because it was also kind of like an asmr thing going around because um it was also audio and
00:03:53.460 people that were just listening on audio like had no idea what was going on because you know i never
00:03:59.180 responded to it um because he didn't want me to um yeah he's like i'm just gonna be unwrapping candy
00:04:06.560 and you just keep talking yeah so this whole journey is now somehow i don't know what was
00:04:11.980 what possessed me to want to start and end well not end because there's no end start my weight
00:04:18.040 lost journey on michael malice's show and continue throughout it i mean whatever but i love him he's
00:04:25.300 great he's i wouldn't say he's a neighbor he's in austin um but you know it's it's fun to to hang
00:04:30.640 out with him and um you know i don't want to ruin his reputation but he is a very nice guy uh he is
00:04:37.560 i'm obsessed with him and you guys michael malice will be on with us on thursday so you will get to
00:04:45.080 if you have never seen him or met him, you will meet him on Thursday right here at the Scott Adams
00:04:50.640 School. Okay, you guys, before we get into, we have a whiteboard, you guys. Do we love whiteboard
00:04:57.760 day? Yes, we do. And we sort of have a little theme going with the whiteboard. It's about
00:05:03.020 hoaxes. But first I wanted to give you an update. Remember our robot race the other day? Well,
00:05:11.420 I was curious who, who happened to win that race? Apparently it was Marcella's favorite racer.
00:05:17.460 My robot. Yeah, it was her robot. And I want you to see what happened at the finish line.
00:05:23.020 It's so good. Watch, watch the guys in the background too. It's so good.
00:05:32.400 That's how I run.
00:05:41.420 oh my god
00:05:52.400 is it okay
00:05:55.960 the medics coming over with this stretcher was my most favorite part oh that's amazing this is
00:06:06.860 exactly why i don't win marathons because i you know like you have to open that and what if i
00:06:12.620 hurt myself you know that's the only reason that's the reason yeah well marcelia you can say like me
00:06:18.240 we've never lost a marathon that's true i joined my wife my wife has run several marathons and i
00:06:26.540 don't understand the mindset i don't know why people want to do that oh i like i like your
00:06:31.440 wife now it just seems like you're damaging your body right i only run if i'm being chased and i
00:06:40.520 always say to marcella and i'm like and i think if i was being chased i would just give up like
00:06:44.540 i wouldn't like give up and not put up a fight but i'd be like i'm not gonna run like i can't
00:06:49.100 stand that kind of being chased feeling i think i would just turn around and be like let's just
00:06:52.580 have the physical fight right now and i've never been in a fight in my life but i feel like that's
00:06:58.900 what i would do and there's my dream of running a marathon with you and owen oh blessed shattered
00:07:04.400 shattered dreams right here yeah um and then one other quick clip because you guys i couldn't stand
00:07:10.940 it it was so cute and i just know this is something scott would have loved scott loved
00:07:16.460 when two different species of animals were friends and so this is just just humor me
00:07:23.280 that's the clip lady and the chimp oh so that was it but i i hope that wasn't actually milk
00:07:50.220 or there's going to be explosive issues later, but all right. So you guys, not to just shut us
00:07:58.780 right down again, but better than us is Scott. And the best thing we all love are his whiteboard
00:08:04.860 lessons. So this is about, I think an eight minute lesson, and we're going to discuss it
00:08:10.840 on the other side and buckle up, grab your mugs and let's go. All right. Now let me show you on
00:08:18.000 the whiteboard, how to identify a hoax, how to create a good hoax, and then I'm going
00:08:26.400 to predict the summer hoax, right?
00:08:29.560 There's always a summer hoax for Trump.
00:08:32.320 So we'll start with how to create a good hoax, right?
00:08:37.820 If it was your job to do a dirty trick and create a Trump hoax, what criteria would you
00:08:47.280 use? I would use first the Tucker rule, Tucker Carlson. You remember the Tucker rule? That
00:08:54.280 whatever the Democrats are doing themselves, they will blame you of. So rule number one,
00:09:01.460 the hoax has to be something that Democrats are doing that's sketchy, that they're going
00:09:06.480 to accuse the other side of doing. So it has to have that quality, accusing you of what
00:09:10.520 they're doing. It needs to be unverifiable. The alternative to that is a video that they can
00:09:19.700 clip, right? So there's two kinds of main hoaxes they use against Trump. One is the anonymous
00:09:26.300 source, and the other is, the anonymous source goes along with, I've seen something that you
00:09:33.620 haven't seen. Oh yeah, I was in the skiff, and I saw something secret that you can't see, but oh,
00:09:39.700 it's bad. Oh, it's bad. Until you see it and it's not. So the unverifiable sources are good
00:09:48.200 because all summer long, the pundits can say, well, we don't know what's true, but if, 0.94
00:09:55.680 if the reports are true, that he urinated on a hooker's bed, ho, ho, ho, if they're true.
00:10:03.380 And so all summer long, when it's slow news, you could have if it's true stories.
00:10:09.700 So that's the other requirement.
00:10:11.780 Now, as you know,
00:10:15.240 a good hoax would play to people's biases.
00:10:18.740 What do I mean by that?
00:10:20.460 Well, remember when Trump was running the first time,
00:10:24.220 and even when he was president, 0.97
00:10:25.920 the claim against him was he was a big old racist.
00:10:29.460 So the best kind of hoax would be a hoax 0.92
00:10:32.060 that shows him looking racist.
00:10:33.760 That's what the fine people hoax was.
00:10:35.980 So the fine people hoax was to play to the bias.
00:10:41.920 Oh, you already think he thinks this way,
00:10:44.560 so we'll create a hoax by leaving out some of the video
00:10:47.320 that makes him look like he was praising neo-Nazis.
00:10:50.360 Of course he wasn't.
00:10:51.680 If there's anybody here who still thinks that really happened,
00:10:55.100 you need to do your homework.
00:10:57.500 There was no...
00:10:58.860 He never called any neo-Nazis fine people in the real world.
00:11:02.260 He said the opposite.
00:11:03.060 The video was edited to make it, to reverse it.
00:11:07.860 Now, likewise, do you remember when the pandemic hit
00:11:10.660 and the big complaint about Trump was?
00:11:13.320 What was the biggest complaint about Trump when the pandemic hit?
00:11:16.640 Well, he's not a science guy, right?
00:11:20.220 What's he know about science?
00:11:22.620 So you need a hoax that plays to the bias
00:11:25.440 that Trump doesn't know enough about science.
00:11:28.640 So they did the drinking bleach hoax.
00:11:31.820 Oh yeah, he recommended drinking bleach, which of course never happened, nor did he recommend
00:11:38.340 ingesting a household cleaner of any kind. That never happened. He was talking about light therapy
00:11:45.260 that was a thing. It was edited to take out the light part, and so people thought he was talking
00:11:50.360 about drinking bleach. So whatever the new hoax will be, it's going to be Tucker Rule, it's going
00:11:56.920 be unverifiable or it's a video that they edit misleadingly. Could be the one. It plays to the
00:12:05.340 bias. So you're already, the people who don't like Trump would already be primed to accept it because
00:12:11.080 that's what we thought. That is exactly what we thought he was like. And here's the best one.
00:12:19.080 It should be designed to remove a Trump advantage. What would be an example of that?
00:12:25.600 Well, I would say that a Trump advantage would be his ability to work with Putin, wouldn't you say?
00:12:33.680 Trump's ability to get along with Putin would be a Trump advantage.
00:12:37.800 But you can take that away by saying that he's actually colluding with Russia.
00:12:43.600 So you don't just say it didn't happen.
00:12:46.560 You don't just say, oh, that's not a good idea that he could get along with Putin.
00:12:50.800 you go right at it and you say,
00:12:52.880 oh, it's not only a bad idea, but he's colluding with Russia. 0.72
00:12:56.480 He's an actual treasonous president.
00:13:01.120 So, given all these things,
00:13:04.420 can you predict what the hoax will be this summer?
00:13:08.380 You should, because it already started. 0.64
00:13:17.300 Trump is trying to help Iran.
00:13:20.800 with secret documents
00:13:22.800 that would be bad for Israel.
00:13:28.400 Who's the prime minister of Israel right now?
00:13:31.820 Who's the prime minister of Israel?
00:13:34.480 Benjamin Netanyahu.
00:13:37.760 Who gets along with Benjamin Netanyahu
00:13:40.380 better than any president?
00:13:42.660 Trump.
00:13:43.700 Trump and Netanyahu are classic buddies.
00:13:47.220 So if you're the Democrats, you want to put some distance
00:13:53.440 between Trump and Netanyahu, but also Trump and Israel. 0.52
00:13:57.780 You'd like Jewish voters in the United States to say,
00:14:01.380 whoa, that Trump guy, he's kind of anti-Israel.
00:14:05.080 But Trump is the most pro-Israel president of all time.
00:14:10.200 And the only way they can take that away from him is with a hoax.
00:14:13.440 so they're going to have to come up with a hoax
00:14:16.220 that a document you can't see
00:14:18.500 but somebody did
00:14:19.520 oh yeah
00:14:20.460 if it's what we think it is
00:14:22.920 if those boxes
00:14:25.180 we don't know for sure
00:14:26.860 but if
00:14:27.840 if those boxes
00:14:29.560 have an Iranian attack document
00:14:32.680 and if he took that
00:14:34.480 it was to give it to Iran
00:14:36.580 because he's not really on Israel's side
00:14:40.540 what do you think?
00:14:43.440 and already we're seeing it, right?
00:14:47.280 If I had made this up just a few months ago,
00:14:50.880 you would have said, that's crazy.
00:14:52.460 Come on, that's just crazy.
00:14:54.120 Yeah, and he also had the success with the Abraham Accords. 0.65
00:14:57.260 But it's already happening.
00:14:59.640 This is literally in the news already
00:15:02.200 that there was some Iranian attack document
00:15:05.720 that's really the one that's sensitive in these Mar-a-Lago boxes.
00:15:10.240 Oh, sure, maybe the other stuff was just souvenirs,
00:15:12.740 But oh, the Iranian attack document that you've never seen
00:15:17.960 and it can't be confirmed and it's not even in the skiff
00:15:21.160 so anybody can look at it and say what they saw.
00:15:24.200 Oh, but what if it exists? What if?
00:15:29.500 Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the summer Trump hoax.
00:15:36.400 Now, I hope you've also learned how to make a hoax.
00:15:40.240 I'm giving the DNC ideas
00:15:43.780 no I'm not
00:15:44.700 you don't think they thought of this
00:15:46.500 this is the classic Trump hoax
00:15:51.520 and they always do it in the summer
00:15:53.500 ideally
00:15:55.120 they want to do it in the summer
00:15:56.360 because there's nothing else to talk about
00:15:58.340 so people will just talk about this all summer long
00:16:00.480 you have to admit
00:16:05.440 you have to admit
00:16:08.000 this is good hoax spotting
00:16:09.580 you've seen all the hoaxes you know how they do it but now i've pulled it together so you can see
00:16:15.760 all the elements of it and by the way you might see a lot more of this i mean this might not be
00:16:22.360 the one you see you probably see lots of them and that is why you follow me because you won't
00:16:28.060 to see that on CNN or MSNBC.
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00:17:10.600 I love it.
00:17:11.740 All right, Owen, I'm going to toss this to you first.
00:17:14.440 And I can't wait to see what this summer hoaxes will be.
00:17:17.500 We'll have to follow along and see if they play out the way Scott said.
00:17:22.060 What say you?
00:17:23.180 I mean, I think we're already seeing a bunch of hoaxes.
00:17:25.400 we had the whole trump was you know affiliated with epstein hoax that was bandied about and that
00:17:32.040 he was trying to hide all the epstein files because he was involved in it that was one of
00:17:36.860 the hoaxes and now he's trying to or the democrats are trying to take away the military support and
00:17:42.740 then the first one of course was the hoax about um unlawful actions and trying to get the military
00:17:49.800 to essentially revolt and not follow his orders and then the latest i think was that the aircraft
00:17:55.340 carrier food was bad and that was after saying the the military food was too good with the with
00:18:01.000 the you know surf and turf dinner or whatever it was oh yeah and um so now they're you know they're
00:18:06.420 complaining about the food no matter what in terms of um that and that's all a hoax too that was
00:18:11.400 debunked today in a story i posted about you know the food is fine it's a high quality food and it's
00:18:16.680 not you know overly good or overly bad either one but um so they're trying this all the time but i
00:18:23.020 think it certainly will ramp up in the summer especially this year because we got the midterms
00:18:26.680 coming up so there's going to be all the October you know surprise type things come in later on
00:18:31.740 and I'm sure we'll see a bunch in the summer too yeah October surprises seem to come all year
00:18:37.060 around Marcella I'm going to jump to you next what would you like to add on to that and then
00:18:42.660 we'll go to Lisa I mean they're all the the Democrats have is hoaxes so I mean I guess
00:18:50.360 there will be a summer hoax um one of the hoaxes that i caught because i watched morning joe um
00:18:58.520 i watch it so you guys don't have to and that's now um one of the hoaxes now is that even if he
00:19:07.140 reaches peace with uh peace uh with iran and signs some kind of deal with uh the nuclear deal
00:19:16.400 what the hoax now is is that everything that he's going to do president trump is what obama did
00:19:24.180 already and obama did it better and that's completely false but that's what they're trying
00:19:31.540 to sell to the democrats and to the rest of the public because they're major media that's the new
00:19:39.500 one everyone's thanking you for watching it so they don't have to i know because my next question
00:19:44.600 was like why do you do it marcella because it makes me understand where they're going because
00:19:50.840 their talking points are usually what the the rest of the talking points are everywhere else so
00:19:58.080 and as soon as i saw the obama thing you hear it everywhere else yep okay all right lisa let me
00:20:04.800 toss over to you what did you think about the whiteboard the hoaxes what's happening out there
00:20:11.120 Yeah. I mean, I think he hit a good point about usually it's something like they accuse us of doing. And, you know, Owen was talking about that, the midterms. And I'm wondering, you know, with today, the thing that's up for vote in Virginia, my former state, about the gerrymandering.
00:20:31.760 I mean, I feel like we're going to start seeing like this is what Republicans are doing to like carve out, you know, votes and get rid of what was the last thing? 0.94
00:20:42.620 Like married women can't vote or something like that, which is which is funny, because if anything, I would want to get the unmarried women to not vote. 0.91
00:20:51.320 100%. 0.96
00:20:51.760 So I think it's probably going to be something that they think will move, you know, in the in the midterms. 0.80
00:20:58.740 they always tend to go back to the thing with women. So that's what makes me think
00:21:07.880 it might not be foreign policy related, but I do think certainly whatever MSNOW is saying
00:21:17.540 is what we should really be concerned about is probably what it's going to be.
00:21:23.440 They're the most egregious.
00:21:24.820 Yeah. And the other thing, you know, about Iran is there'll be like, say there'll be a peace deal, but then it's all to line, you know, the Trump family's pocket. So there'll be like, you know, the Gaza Strip hotels and Iran hotels and somehow, you know, we'll own the oil or Trump will own the oil or oil rights or, you know, whatever those things are.
00:21:44.520 that's right but don't forget you also have james carvel out there like make puerto rico a state
00:21:51.240 and let them vote and you're like oh my god you hysterical maniac it's just like
00:21:57.240 any way they can redraw redistrict go ahead owen well i would just go say by the way that election
00:22:03.400 for that gerrymandering referendum is today so if you happen to live in virginia make sure you get
00:22:08.680 get out and vote today to vote that down. Yeah. It's important. I mean, you've got Spanberger
00:22:14.120 there, so she's a whack-a-do. And it is, of course, worded completely wrongly in terms of
00:22:22.040 how that ballot question. It says, should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the
00:22:26.840 General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness
00:22:30.860 in the upcoming elections while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all
00:22:36.980 future redistricting after the 2030 census so it kind of conflicts with itself it's like wait a
00:22:44.100 second if you're restoring fairness why would you have to go back to the other one later right like
00:22:49.360 it doesn't make any sense but it seems like they've been very crafty in terms of trying to make it
00:22:54.120 think make you think oh this is just making it more fair when it's doing the exact opposite it's just
00:22:59.620 basically saying okay only democrats are going to get elected now in virginia even though so many of
00:23:05.000 voters are not democrats because they're just going to carve them up into little pieces so they
00:23:08.760 can't really collect anybody yeah i mean their use of fairness is like the definition of
00:23:13.720 inflammable like it means the opposite oh yeah oh wait they're always looking in the mirror when
00:23:19.720 they're projecting fairness to them which means they just want to have all the votes and now i
00:23:26.120 like how they want fair elections and this oh okay where were you before all right so that you know
00:23:33.720 hoaxes we're gonna watch them we we watch them all the time i think we see them every single day
00:23:38.760 you know i mean you just anyone that's standing in front of a lectern like cory booker screaming
00:23:45.160 yesterday and like everybody just wants to be like heard and i'm the drama the drama queen of the day
00:23:51.800 and they just keep getting more animated and ridiculous with every passing day to it's like
00:23:58.840 clickbait, right? I have to outdo yesterday's lunatic with today's lunacy. So they're really 0.99
00:24:05.580 backing this country into a corner. Yeah, Spartacus. So we have to be careful. But I feel
00:24:11.580 like this group here, it's going to be our job to help our friends understand that a lot of what
00:24:17.240 they're seeing are hoaxes in the making or already established hoaxes. So let's help our neighbors
00:24:24.660 and friends understand what's happening. And maybe even preemptively, maybe show them Scott's
00:24:31.780 whiteboard and just like, here's how a hoax develops. Let's watch together and see which
00:24:36.220 ones we can spot, kind of like punch buggy in the car. So let's buckle up because I have a feeling
00:24:42.800 it's going to be more epic than the time before. And also Trump is done after this term. Everybody
00:24:49.660 calm down again i tell you is he or i know i think i think for the democrats they want to
00:24:57.380 neutralize trump for the last two years and then they want to obviously you know try and keep vance
00:25:02.240 from winning next they want power that's what it is and so they're doing everything they can to
00:25:07.420 rig the system in their favor we need to come up with a new fashion for hoax season something that
00:25:13.880 goes with it you know we'll come up with that anyone have an idea drop it in the chat dm me
00:25:18.920 we'll come we'll we'll wear it um okay so i may wear it we well yeah oh and well
00:25:24.840 i was like no problem i'll just whip that up um so keeping in in theme with the hoaxes
00:25:33.720 so this is outrageous oh and we're gonna go to the fbi story um i want to play the clip do you
00:25:41.360 want to brief it or should i play the clip first and then talk about it um you could probably just
00:25:46.020 play the clip. I think the overall thing though is that there's about 2 million pages of anti-Trump
00:25:52.900 FBI documents. That's the headline. I mean, I don't know if it's all anti-Trump, but there's
00:25:57.160 2 million documents that were found in these hidden burn bags. So that's what the story's
00:26:01.840 about, but we can talk more about it after the clip. All right. You guys, it's a good thorough
00:26:05.140 clip. It's five minutes and it's really important. So let's dive in. We'll be right back.
00:26:09.660 An unbelievable story at the FBI dating back to the James Comey era, a secret room at FBI
00:26:16.940 headquarters in Washington that is allegedly filled with piles of documents, the majority
00:26:22.440 anti-Trump documents, all deliberately hidden in burn bags.
00:26:27.780 When the United States government and agency heads want things to disappear
00:26:31.240 and want things to be buried and hidden, they know how to do it.
00:26:34.120 But what they didn't count on was President Trump winning, him electing leadership across the United States government to say, go find out how they corrupted and weaponized law enforcement.
00:26:48.280 So burn bags are common at like embassies to burn sensitive documents. You don't want the public to get. You don't want adversaries to get. But typically you don't hear about burning documents at the FBI because those documents are typically needed in both current and future investigations, not to mention for the historical record.
00:27:07.600 But our next guest says it goes way beyond that. There are nearly two million pages of records from Obama to Biden related to Jack Smith, Russiagate, elections and the lawfare they used to try to take down Donald Trump for more than a decade.
00:27:21.740 Tom Fenton is the president of Judicial Watch. He uncovered this entire story and went public. Tom, good to have you on.
00:27:27.160 I know you filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit with the FBI and they confirmed the existence of all of this. So where are we now with releasing these documents?
00:27:38.280 So Dan Bagino and Cash also, as you can see, talked about these records that were either in burn bags or in hidden rooms.
00:27:47.200 So we said, well, give us those records. Right. And we were stalled and we didn't get the records.
00:27:52.760 We sued. And to their credit, the FBI disclosed specifically just how many records were at issue.
00:27:59.160 generally what they covered, as I said, Jack Smith, and it could go back who knows how far
00:28:04.600 in terms of other investigations that were political into Trump or related issues. Who
00:28:11.340 knows what other special counsel investigations they're hiding or other IG investigations they're
00:28:17.860 hiding. Could be Russiagate, for example. And they said they need about a year to kind of go
00:28:23.180 through it all and get a handle on it. And I compare this to the Epstein files, right? The
00:28:27.460 The Epstein files with three and a half million records.
00:28:30.080 This is upwards of two million.
00:28:32.060 And if I were the FBI and Justice Department, I would, I would make this a priority because
00:28:37.220 as far as I'm concerned, the Epstein records had a lot of interesting revelations. 0.81
00:28:42.080 But what the lawfare lunatics were engaged in was a plot to undo our republic by trying
00:28:49.800 to jail President Trump when he was president and then when he was running for president.
00:28:54.400 So that ought to be a priority.
00:28:55.400 Let me just let me just stop you so I can just I want to get everybody on the same page just so and there's been a lot of changes at the Department of Justice in the last several hours.
00:29:04.780 So we'll see where this goes. These were in burn bags. That's really, really unusual.
00:29:11.880 Can I ask you, do we have any insight into why Biden's Attorney General Merrick Garland didn't burn them?
00:29:17.640 We don't know who put them in there, why they were hidden, what was the purpose of hiding them from other – the incoming FBI leadership had to figure out they were in either the burn bags or in the secret room generally.
00:29:35.780 And to me, that ought to be the subject to a potential criminal investigation, and they should be questioning people closely as to how that happened.
00:29:44.800 You know, and that kind of goes to the issue of, you know,
00:29:47.460 Pam Bondi, you know, was essentially fired by President Trump.
00:29:51.140 You know, I think in the end the FBI can't investigate the FBI.
00:29:55.660 The Justice Department can't investigate the Justice Department.
00:29:58.740 We can get the transparency.
00:30:00.700 I think we're getting more transparency.
00:30:03.060 But in the end, to the degree there are criminal actions by the Justice Department and FBI
00:30:07.380 at issue in terms of the lawfare against President Trump,
00:30:09.960 I think there should be outside agencies or independent counsels outside those two agencies looking at what went on here.
00:30:19.540 OK, next step in the process. I've got 30 seconds, Tom.
00:30:25.200 Well, the FBI says they need a year.
00:30:27.580 I'm hoping leadership of the Justice Department and the FBI recognize that this is a priority issue and they speed up the review of these documents.
00:30:35.840 the Epstein file shows it can be done where there's a political will. And I'm hoping there's
00:30:41.140 a political will to expose these lawfare documents. Very good point. And I'll just add to that,
00:30:47.420 that because of your work and you coming on tonight, the White House is aware of this.
00:30:52.760 Donald Trump is aware of this. Whereas a couple of weeks ago, he didn't know about this. So now
00:30:57.620 he knows. So I think that there will be something done to expedite that process. A year seems like
00:31:02.880 way too much time. And I think that that is something that will be addressed by the new
00:31:08.180 attorney general, hopefully. Tom Fitton, great to have you on tonight. We'll have you back. Thank
00:31:12.380 you. Thank you, Ron. Thank you. God bless Tom Fitton. The man is tireless, tireless. Do you
00:31:21.900 know he's not an attorney? Little known fact. No, no, no. Yep. He's not an attorney. So Owen,
00:31:30.180 like kind of bring that all together for us because i i all right so all the questions in
00:31:35.880 the chat are like why wouldn't they have burned it like what is this secret room if you know who
00:31:40.360 says you can burn that you know what the hell it's a great question i i think it's a mystery
00:31:45.160 at this point as far as how these things ended up in this secret room and and i think that we did
00:31:49.960 hear earlier on in this saga that um somebody told cash patel about this secret room like somebody
00:31:58.560 led him to it and said, hey, by the way, there's all this secret stuff here. So I have to imagine
00:32:02.420 there were some good guys in the FBI that somehow intercepted these things
00:32:06.640 or said, you know what, I'm not going to burn these. I'm going to put these aside and
00:32:10.400 tell them I burned them or something and preserved
00:32:14.480 them essentially and just said we're going to wait until somebody else is in office
00:32:18.240 and then we're going to bring this stuff back out. And I don't know if we'll ever know who those
00:32:22.460 people were, but whoever you were, I consider you a hero for doing that.
00:32:26.000 And, um, you know, I think, uh, it is really incredible and I think it is criminal in my
00:32:33.400 opinion. I mean, I don't know the law, but, um, it would have to, it would seem like it
00:32:38.200 would have to be illegal to say, you're not following the record procedures that normally
00:32:41.960 apply to these things that you didn't log them the way they're supposed to be logged.
00:32:45.540 You didn't put them in the record systems that the law I think requires for the FBI.
00:32:50.520 and so it does seem like they had this really extensive secret system for saying we're going
00:32:57.080 to document what we're doing maybe so we can pretend we're following the letter of the law
00:33:01.900 but we're not going to put them in the places where they can be found and I think we heard
00:33:06.160 separately that they had some special way of coding stuff so that it was hard to find so that
00:33:11.780 when you did searches in the FBI system you couldn't find certain records and that even the
00:33:15.700 stuff that was logged in the computer systems ended up being kind of hidden unless you knew
00:33:20.020 what to look for or you knew how to get through the coding systems that they used.
00:33:24.760 Which just makes it more sinister.
00:33:26.660 Yeah, it just, I mean, it seems egregious.
00:33:28.860 It seems criminal to me.
00:33:30.160 And I'm hoping this is going to be used in some of the cases coming up that we're hearing
00:33:33.680 from Todd Blanche that we're going to have because he's claiming that we are going to
00:33:37.000 see indictments coming soon.
00:33:39.060 I've heard that Comey is one of them, but he's not the only one.
00:33:41.700 And Brennan is rumored to be on the chopping block in terms of indictments.
00:33:45.860 And so I'm really hoping we will see some real accountability and maybe this documentation 1.00
00:33:49.900 will be part of that those cocky mofos comey and brennan and clapper and that i'm i don't know 0.99
00:33:56.180 about clapper i'm just throwing him in where's my all my signs allegedly my opinion um lisa i'm
00:34:02.860 going to come to you first so our attorney can wrap us up at the end but you know doesn't this
00:34:08.200 just piss you off so bad what do you you know what what's your feeling and your take on this
00:34:13.120 yeah well i mean i guess as a gen xer i would say thank god we still have like an analog world
00:34:19.160 where they were like something, something there. Right. I think Nancy asked in the chat, like,
00:34:24.720 I really kind of just want to see what a burn bag looks like, because I'm kind of imagining it like
00:34:29.780 the money bags, like where it says burn bag. It's like people holding them. But, you know,
00:34:35.780 I think what's interesting about this is in a way it restores faith in some agencies,
00:34:43.640 because I think when we think about deep state, we think about, you know, the whole agency is
00:34:49.040 corrupt. And I think we have to remember there are people that get into it that are patriotic
00:34:53.740 and they're still there. And so I'm grateful for that. But you just have to hope that the people
00:35:02.380 like Brandon and all the people that are really just seeking power or using it as a political
00:35:08.440 perch um will be be rooted out allegedly for sure for sure rooted out but allegedly those people
00:35:19.480 yeah all right marcella our our attorney extraordinaire what i mean what is going on here
00:35:28.120 well as you know like scott would say you know government is so big so you're gonna have the
00:35:36.600 dilbert filter where people are quite sometimes it's not uh the deep state like lisa was saying
00:35:45.240 there are good people in there but it's also there's a lot of incompetence um i worked in
00:35:52.040 california government so i would know what that looks like but so the the standard procedure as
00:35:59.880 i learned of it is that you part only classified documents in these burn bags and then there's a
00:36:09.000 most of the time it's sent with security to an incentive to incinerate them so there's a process
00:36:16.600 that you have to follow which wasn't followed here which then leads to this being uh perhaps
00:36:25.320 whoever left it there can be criminally liable if they intentionally did it.
00:36:31.160 Now, with government, one hand doesn't know what the other is doing.
00:36:36.120 I it needs to be investigated.
00:36:38.360 So beyond the fact that it needs to be investigated, what the documents are
00:36:42.820 within the burn bags.
00:36:44.660 But one of the things the Judicial Watch is complaining about is that
00:36:49.860 the it's going to the government says that it's going to take them one year
00:36:54.080 to go through all these classified documents to redact them in order to give it through the FOIA
00:37:02.720 request. I understand it's, it looks like it's like millions of documents. So,
00:37:08.880 you know, if they don't have, you know, AI or a faster way of doing it, then obviously it's
00:37:14.720 going to take time. But my, you know, even my own cases, which is like this many is taken like two
00:37:23.680 or three years litigation you know so it's not surprising to me the surprising thing is
00:37:31.840 has there been an investigation open by the doj to see who is criminally liable for this right
00:37:41.760 like you were saying the person who put the burn bags aside was criminally liable
00:37:46.480 is that what you're saying yes yeah criminally liable if they intentionally
00:37:51.040 uh remove them from the process because that means one they had access perhaps you know
00:37:57.900 obviously and burn burn bags are just like paper bags with documents in them so they would have
00:38:04.040 access there is um you're not facing hard time you're facing possibly five years i mean there
00:38:12.200 could be a whole conspiracy beyond that but it's the unauthorized removal and retention of
00:38:16.580 classified documents i think he'd get pardoned yeah does that get that follow fall under like
00:38:22.720 a whistleblower clause potentially he'd get pardoned i mean that's like i mean we're thinking
00:38:30.640 that he's trying to help trump that's that's there could be there could be different people
00:38:36.840 one that in my mind about it one in my mind the crime was trying to destroy these documents
00:38:41.600 to try and hide them. And that, you know, you might be right that technically speaking,
00:38:46.800 it might also be a crime to say, instead of burning them, I didn't burn them and I put
00:38:52.080 them in this secret room. But I think, you know, to me, that is kind of like the actions of a
00:38:57.920 whistleblower. I don't think you could officially call it whistleblower because he never made a
00:39:00.940 complaint as far as we know. But I think the, you know, the, I would certainly hope that Trump
00:39:06.660 would pardon anybody if they were charged with anything for that i agree i mean i can see marce
00:39:13.700 yeah marcella i get what you're saying like the guy screwed up his job and we're like thank god
00:39:18.500 well it could be different people so the person that eventually told cash patel the fbi director
00:39:24.420 about the burn bags could have been a different person than the than the original people that put
00:39:29.220 it in there um you never know so but it needs to be investigated like the owen makes a good point
00:39:38.020 why were they set to be incinerated um now it is common practice to do that um for documents
00:39:46.340 however they the procedures are so they have to look into the procedures and it takes time
00:39:52.180 my take is is like something that serious i mean that you know it does seem like it was a 0.99
00:39:59.060 cover your ass type of thing. Whoever said burn this, um, because that, that's such a high profile, 0.98
00:40:06.000 high level thing that there's a bajillion other things you would burn before burning that stuff.
00:40:10.980 So it seems very sus, but it's interesting. Um, you know, Tom Fitton, we'll hear stories from him
00:40:17.540 where he takes, you know, he, he'll just keep going at it and it'll take six years to get the
00:40:22.700 thing he's asking for sometimes under FOIA, but he'll, he'll just keep going. He's like a dog
00:40:27.300 with a bone. Thank God. You know, I love seeing people like that because, and also like Brian 0.64
00:40:33.260 Romley said, and like, you know, Lisa saying like, thank God there's analog stuff. And this is why
00:40:39.220 you need to, you know, preserve and save the microfiche and the old files and everything
00:40:45.080 else, because you just don't know what is being burned and destroyed. And it seems so easy to
00:40:50.100 manipulate things once they're digital. All right. So we're going to keep our eye on that. It's a
00:40:55.820 huge story. And as it updates, Owen's going to bring us updates on that because personally,
00:41:02.640 I'd love nothing more than to see those people go to fricking jail and hard because they're 0.99
00:41:10.080 disgusting. Sorry, I'm getting excited. Okay. So I want to move on to another story that we 1.00
00:41:17.500 promised you we would talk about today. Let me bring this up. Let me see if I can expand it.
00:41:23.840 okay so um marcella do you want to do you want to start this one and then um we do have a quick
00:41:31.320 clip and owen will wrap it up too so an iranian woman was busted in l and she was in lax when
00:41:41.120 they captured her she was about to take a flight to turkey she often took many different flights
00:41:48.260 to turkey or different places uh what she was busted for was trying to sell arms and she did
00:41:56.660 that this often she sold um she represented it's interesting her name is shamim mafi she's 44 years
00:42:06.260 old she uh she was trying to negotiate a deal between the irgc the iranian army in sudan so
00:42:16.900 So she was selling Iranian arms and, you know, bombs and I believe other types of of weapons, 0.95
00:42:28.560 Mohajer six armed drones to Sudan.
00:42:34.900 So basically she was being the one that was networking and having the talks between both countries.
00:42:42.320 Now, the reason this is illegal is because it's ran is under sanctions. Under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, she's been being this is all alleged.
00:42:56.300 Of course, she's in a sense of poverty and guilty, and she's been charged under 50 U.S.C. sections, 1705A and C, which means that she is under the section, you're not allowed to do any transactions with Iran or helping Iran do any kind of transactions because there are sanctions against them and any arms sales of Iran.
00:43:20.620 I mean, isn't that just kind of like, duh? I mean, does that just have to be illegal? Because it's illegal?
00:43:28.420 is just it has to be proven that she did it in the u.s that you know she is a green card holder
00:43:35.540 she's arrested an alien the talk is that she received her residency while uh obama was in
00:43:43.120 power now we don't know if how she came about becoming um resident of the united states maybe
00:43:53.100 was through marriage. Maybe it was through this million dollar where you buy yourself into an 0.99
00:44:00.160 American green card. But that needs to be investigated as well. But obviously she made
00:44:08.260 it to court yesterday at the U.S. District Court in L.A. And because it's federal court,
00:44:16.200 you don't have any video of it. All right. I have a quick clip. I'm going to play the clip
00:44:20.920 And then I'll come to you, Lisa, and then, Owen, we'll let you wrap this one up.
00:44:24.820 But I forget what the clip is. It's short. Let's just take a look.
00:44:28.580 This story just into our newsroom this morning.
00:44:31.700 A Los Angeles woman arrested for trafficking arms on behalf of the Iranian government.
00:44:39.100 Correspondent Max Gordon is in the Southland with more on that for us.
00:44:42.500 Max, a crazy story with incredible pictures from the airport.
00:44:47.180 Yeah, absolutely, Kevin.
00:44:48.100 And last night, 44-year-old Shamim Mafi, an Iranian national now living in the L.A. area,
00:44:53.280 was arrested at LAX just before getting on a flight to Turkey.
00:44:56.980 She's accused of trafficking arms on behalf of the Iranian government.
00:45:00.520 According to the FBI's Iran Counterintelligence Squad,
00:45:03.140 Mafi is accused of selling Iranian-manufactured bombs, drones, assault weapons,
00:45:07.880 and millions of rounds of ammunition to Sudan.
00:45:11.520 Mafi was allegedly coordinating with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
00:45:15.420 According to the federal government, one of the contracts was worth 60 million euros,
00:45:19.540 brokering the sale of Iranian-made drones between Iran's defense ministry and Sudan.
00:45:24.620 In another instance, Mafi is accused of selling 55,000 bomb fuses to the Sudanese military.
00:45:30.320 According to the criminal complaint, Mafi is a lawful permanent U.S. resident, though not a citizen.
00:45:34.700 She was born in Iran, relocated to Turkey, but most recently has lived in Woodland Hills, California.
00:45:41.440 Mafi travels frequently to Iran, Turkey, Oman, and other countries,
00:45:44.640 and according to the feds, executed her illegal weapons brokering scheme from multiple locations, 0.94
00:45:49.860 including right here in California.
00:45:52.240 She's currently charged with conspiracy to violate the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
00:45:57.000 If convicted, Mafi faces up to 20 years in federal prison. 0.66
00:46:00.820 Kevin, back to you. 1.00
00:46:02.300 Oh my, she is crafty.
00:46:05.200 um so lisa is your first question that you or your first comment that you wish you could see 1.00
00:46:12.000 marcella since she's in california that marcella could have like taken this chick down like ba bam 0.69
00:46:16.720 i would pay for that yeah for sure i mean i don't know if anybody's a fan of shots of sunset on on
00:46:25.360 bravo but you know la beverly hills is the largest concentration of persians iranians um you know in
00:46:33.220 the U.S. It might even be, you know, a lot of those people came in after, you know, the Shaw fell
00:46:40.620 in 79, 76, something like that. But yeah, I mean, what always strikes me about these people is when
00:46:50.420 I see her mugshot, you know, allegedly, it looks like she's getting filler in her lips. And, you
00:46:57.720 know, these people are working so hard for a regime, um, that, you know, they don't seem to,
00:47:04.220 to follow. Um, and, you know, I, I think at the end of the day, it's always some, you know,
00:47:11.120 some kind of, you know, power that, that she's getting. I mean, it's just like, you know,
00:47:15.640 the nine 11 terrorists that went to strip clubs and drank alcohol. Um, you know, it, it just makes
00:47:21.820 you, you wonder what are these people working for? And I think it just comes down to, you know,
00:47:27.000 money and glory um you know regardless of of your religion or where you come from yeah because
00:47:34.680 you're like oh you're gonna live here and enjoy freedom and a lifestyle you could never have over
00:47:40.680 there but you're gonna keep helping arm up these people yeah and they're our biggest enemy yeah and
00:47:47.560 i should say when i when i'm talking about um you know beverly hills and the concentration there
00:47:52.440 these are people that supported the show. They are not, you know, for the, um, Islamic regime.
00:47:58.420 Um, and you know, that's, that's a media story that you're not hearing these people celebrating,
00:48:02.680 you know, in the streets as, um, you know, America, um, does some American.
00:48:09.340 Ooh. I mean that she is, she, I mean, also how many times do we say like, look at people's
00:48:16.060 passports and where are they going and don't you feel like why do we even bother having these
00:48:22.820 passports if there's like no red flags going off i mean look at how she where she's going back and
00:48:27.920 forth to and everything else i mean owen make it make sense please yeah well i mean she she
00:48:33.260 apparently came in under the obama administration so it's clear that their vetting was not happening
00:48:38.360 the way it needed to be during that time um and of course there is alleged suspicions about
00:48:44.320 uh obama being muslim and maybe being affiliated with some of those causes
00:48:49.060 um and that's been alleged for a long time but i think um you know it certainly raises the
00:48:55.420 question to me to say how many of these people are in our country and you know the with the
00:49:00.480 threat we have now it's an even bigger problem but i think you know even back then it's like
00:49:05.180 how how would someone who was an arms dealer just you know skate under the the vetting that
00:49:12.100 might come in when someone comes to this country and i don't think there's really any excuse for
00:49:16.520 that i think it seems to me like they have plenty of surveillance of all these foreign people that
00:49:21.720 they'd be able to tell hey there's some weird financial transactions happening here and let's
00:49:26.820 look into this before we just let this person into the country um so i i don't know i mean i think
00:49:32.480 you know it's it seems like she's been in in this case selling iran's weapons to other countries but
00:49:39.940 I think obviously to benefit the IRGC and so funding the terrorism that's been happening
00:49:48.160 over there. So it seems like an unconscionable thing and I'm hoping she's put away. I do notice
00:49:52.580 in the story that it mentions, she apparently is claiming to have extensive information about
00:49:57.660 the Iranian financial system and money laundering channels used by the government of Iran. So
00:50:02.620 it sounds like she might be trying to flip and make a deal. I don't know what's going to happen
00:50:06.580 with that but she doesn't want to go back that should be the punishment they just go back yeah
00:50:10.400 marcia i'm curious is there a reason they always seem to catch these people at the airport is it
00:50:15.560 just because that's their last chance before they go off i think that's part of showing that she
00:50:22.620 wanted to escape and part of her guilt as they put it in front of a jury like they wait until it
00:50:29.280 shows okay so you're totally innocent but yet you are leaving to turkey right when this was
00:50:35.760 happening so that could be uh more potentially to show to meet the burden of proof beyond a
00:50:43.380 reasonable doubt kind of like scott i don't know if you remember the scott peterson case
00:50:48.260 he took off killed his wife who was pregnant and then he took off to mexico dyed his hair
00:50:55.000 everything differently and so that kind of shows kind of like intent to
00:51:00.540 evade justice so perhaps they had tried to reach out to her and she was from what the story says
00:51:11.580 she was trying to leave to turkey to escape uh prosecution well according to the pictures though
00:51:19.200 she had a suitcase full of cash so that might be a suspicious thing as it goes through security
00:51:23.740 unless she gives some cash to the tsa agents that haven't been paid for quite a while
00:51:31.980 hand to god is our government still closed
00:51:36.540 are we still i think we are for yeah we are for dhs no there there are parts of the dhs that are
00:51:42.780 still shut down yeah yeah but the tsa there was some kind of executive order that he figured out
00:51:48.380 some kind of people yeah yeah they were funding them i just never hear anyone talk about it
00:51:53.980 anymore i guess we don't need it so all right no it is going on and i think it is there there
00:51:59.980 there was a story i believe i posted about that maybe a week or two ago about basically saying we
00:52:05.260 are you know dhs is kind of crumbling from within and it's suffering from this lack of funding so
00:52:09.900 there is a problem there get this though one drone contract that she did alone was worth over 70
00:52:17.260 million dollars i'm in the wrong business um well i'm obviously free as well so uh but 70 million
00:52:25.360 for one drone that's amazing wow wow yeah we're in the wrong business no we're not that's what i
00:52:34.300 think with all these like um ngos and and you know sweetheart deals with the government contracts
00:52:41.280 it's like you know how do i get one of those right she was a small business under like an 1.00
00:52:47.340 ng air you said uh thing small minority business yeah how come our american women aren't this 1.00
00:52:54.660 crafty when uh they're in politics they're just like duh sorry sorry i'll take it back where are 1.00
00:53:01.160 they you've got the nancy policies and uh you know people doing the insider trading so i think some
00:53:06.360 them oh yeah how about ilhan omar she said her net worth was between like six and thirty million
00:53:14.440 dollars and then she's like oh that was an accounting era it's like uh that has been out
00:53:18.920 for a year and now suddenly nick shirley shows up and she's like nope nope i'm not a millionaire uh
00:53:24.280 we gotta fix that okay watch her use it as like the trump economy has been so bad i've lost you
00:53:31.000 know 90 million dollars in the last year that is a good one wait i like how it's between like six
00:53:36.760 and sixty mil like these broad numbers they come up with like i i don't know six to sixty million
00:53:42.280 somewhere thereabouts like oh okay how does she pay estimated tax payments i'd love to know i think
00:53:48.600 that might be the forms you fill out it might give you those ranges and just have you check a box
00:53:52.760 so i'm not sure but someone's accountants in trouble that's for sure that's all i know
00:53:58.600 all right so who wants to give us um another story we have at the top of the hour coming up we have
00:54:05.160 five minutes but let's let's do another story owen or marcella you guys shoot it out well we can talk
00:54:11.080 about iran um vice president um jd vance is going over to pakistan the iranians are still denying
00:54:20.520 that they're going to be going, but they actually have asked for J.D. Vance. I would too. Instead of
00:54:30.940 just doing, just meeting with Kushner and with Coff, because I think what they were, the experts
00:54:37.460 were explaining it as, you know, he's the vice president. So you're basically taking it more
00:54:43.680 seriously if he actually shows up. They are obviously aware that President Trump is not
00:54:49.780 going to show up. So it's going to be in Islamabad because tonight, if maybe I'm wrong, Owen, but
00:54:58.220 tonight the ceasefire ceases. And today CNBC morning squat box interviewed Trump and he said
00:55:09.140 that Iran can get themselves into a very good deal if they come to the negotiations. But what is
00:55:16.300 being reported is that iran is in the game of endurance and they're willing to wait and see
00:55:23.680 what they can get out of trump when he's desperate to end this war so that's we'll see
00:55:31.400 yeah it's kind of up in the air so what's going to happen now i think it's really hard to predict
00:55:36.980 because i think you know to me it does seem like we want to move things towards peace and we want
00:55:41.540 to make a deal but there's all this conflicting information i think i saw a story saying iran was
00:55:45.900 denying that they were doing these negotiations. So it's hard to know until you actually see
00:55:50.760 something happen what's real, because Vance does seem to be saying, we're going over there,
00:55:56.600 we're going to do this next round of negotiations. And the last I heard was Iran saying, no, we're
00:56:01.000 not. So it seems like there's a lot of that with this Iran conflict, where there's conflicting
00:56:08.000 statements coming from both sides in terms of what's actually happening. And it seems to me
00:56:11.680 like most of the time the Trump administration is telling the truth and that it might just be that
00:56:16.300 for whatever PR reasons, Iran doesn't want to let people know that those things are happening,
00:56:21.640 even though they, even though they are. So they just kind of deny reality and say, we're not 0.61
00:56:24.820 doing that. And, um, and then they are, but we'll have to see what happens this time and how Trump
00:56:30.700 responds. You know, he's made the same threats, I suppose, of, of blowing up power plants and
00:56:35.280 bridges. And we'll have to see if he follows through on that. And, um, you know, so it is
00:56:40.480 kind of dicey right now in terms of what the next steps are oh lisa anything yeah wasn't there's um
00:56:47.040 the last i i saw i wrote about on my sub stack uh this morning was there was uh i don't know if it
00:56:53.400 was a commander or someone from the parliament uh was saying that they still had cards to play
00:56:59.460 you know on the the battlegrounds um which i just thought was you know so amusing because you know
00:57:05.160 now is the time not before before everything else got destroyed now they want to play those cards so
00:57:09.900 So, you know, I think there's a lot of, you know, posturing of, you know, we're still in this when that's probably, you know, not the case.
00:57:19.060 And they don't want to admit really the only card they have left is to show up and give in at, you know, a table.
00:57:27.080 Yeah, I just don't know what's left.
00:57:28.580 I mean, I don't know what's left.
00:57:31.080 I don't know why they want it to that to be blown up, too.
00:57:34.380 Can we can we end this, please, please, please?
00:57:37.760 um all right you guys so i'm gonna just kind of wrap this up um lisa you're such a good vibe and
00:57:45.260 like totally part of this chart you guys lisa has been a friend of scott's forever too she's
00:57:51.500 authored other books and um lisa when we make a post after the show on x drop we drop in your
00:57:58.680 sub stack and links for all of the things you do because she is just she's the most she's got quite
00:58:05.240 the talent stack and we're so happy that you can join us and that you will again i'm sure um
00:58:13.080 yes lisa is great she's the best so tomorrow you guys good news bad news i'll give you the bad
00:58:20.360 news first it's sad brace yourselves our marcella won't be on the show tomorrow because she'll be
00:58:27.400 battling it out in court and she'll be winning so we're gonna miss you marcella
00:58:32.440 and kick some butt tomorrow however the good news is is that we will be joined by steve cortez
00:58:40.520 so that will be a fun show um oh free bird look at you and tomorrow so tomorrow we're gonna go 0.53
00:58:50.020 it'll be owen and myself and steve cortez and we will be talking about nato we'll be talking about
00:58:56.960 oh, you guys, if you know me, you know, I do not like this wind power nonsense and it's earth day
00:59:03.320 and we have a wind topic for you. Um, and whatever else comes up, maybe something about
00:59:09.700 Sheridan Gorman. He did a documentary about her. Um, but tomorrow will be a fun day, even though
00:59:15.920 our Marcella won't be here, but you guys will be here. We'll be here and we look forward to it.
00:59:21.440 And Thursday, we have Michael Malice, so that'll be fun too.
00:59:27.160 Okay, and more to come the days following.
00:59:30.040 You guys, love you.
00:59:31.740 We love you.
00:59:32.800 We all thank you so much for being here.
00:59:35.280 We're going to do a closing sip to Scott, and we thank Shelly and Scott for having this
00:59:43.180 show go on and on and on, and we thank you for showing up for us.
00:59:47.100 and youtube i'm sorry we don't know what's going on with youtube but we will um post a show to
00:59:53.060 youtube in a little while i don't know why i didn't click on today something special over there
00:59:58.300 so a closing sip to scott you guys let's be useful have a great day and we'll see you back
01:00:03.740 here in the morning to scott to scott bye guys
01:00:08.460 thanks lisa we love you thanks for having me anytime it's our pleasure
01:00:17.060 Bye guys. Thanks flavor.