Walter Kern returns to The Scott Adams School to discuss his new movie, The Rash, and the controversy surrounding it. Plus, a new trailer for the movie and why it needs to come to fruition. This episode is brought to you by LaCie and produced by Riley Bray.
00:00:00.000it is i know you're screaming and excited it's beetle mania walter mania good morning everyone
00:00:10.200good morning we'll give you guys a minute to filter in and we have like highly highly requested
00:00:20.040to return walter let me just tell you not only did we want you to return before you left last
00:00:25.840time um but everybody watching has been asking for you and i was just like you know what there
00:00:31.620is no better time than to have walter on with uh the craziness in this world and it's nice to be
00:00:38.720wanted first of all and second of all the craziness is up my alley sadly because uh it's
00:00:47.040you know whatever else it is theater and and theater and drama and narrative are my specialties
00:00:54.080I never knew that the skills I developed as a fiction writer and as a screenplay, you know, script writer and a playwright would serve me so well in observing political and current events.
00:01:12.140That's right. All right. Well, listen, we're going to talk about the rash on the other side.
00:05:44.060Now, I want people to understand who just saw that trailer that that's called a teaser trailer.
00:05:49.700It doesn't mean that the movie has been made.
00:05:51.980In fact, the whole idea of the movie, the project itself, has been endlessly controversial.
00:06:00.580And when I showed that trailer at a gathering in Washington, D.C., a couple of months ago, I was subject to immediate attacks from Politico magazine, Yahoo News, The Hollywood Reporter, a British magazine, all in a week.
00:06:17.220Because there's something about this topic, there's something about wanting to vaccinate America's mind against future panics that someone really doesn't want to happen.
00:06:34.680And so that trailer, which is made in advance of the movie as a fundraising vehicle.
00:06:40.200And those of you out there who are multimillionaires and want to invest in the movies, find a way of getting in touch with me.
00:06:49.160This idea has already bred more resistance than any project I've ever been involved with.
00:07:05.760What were the movies people were watching during the pandemic?
00:07:08.500It was like outbreak and all these other things, but they, they, you know, they also scared you, which made you like a lot of germaphobes.
00:07:17.560Those were movies, those were movies that were meant to, and they go back into the 90s, that were meant to prepare you for, let's say, a real epidemic, a truly terrifying epidemic.
00:07:34.500But they only added to the problem, in my view, which was that America lost its mind.
00:07:42.640It abrogated its constitutional guarantees of civil liberties across the board.
00:07:48.300It destroyed the economy for small business, all sorts of people who I think had plans for the future, plans for their business, were building, you know, building family endeavors and so on, were just taken out like with a scythe.
00:08:11.740They were mown down. And for no real medical reason that we can reconstruct. And because of the virus that may or may not have been the product of our own scientific establishment.
00:08:27.960Right when the economy was chugging along beautifully.
00:08:33.360Oh, shocking. Owen, what were you going to say?
00:08:35.480Well, I would just add that I think it damaged a generation of kids. There are all sorts of kids that grew up during that time or were in school at that time that got years behind in their education. And I don't know if they really can't even catch up, or at least they're struggling a lot to do that.
00:08:52.280There were, you know, kids that were emotionally affected by it just because they were kind of isolated for so long.
00:08:58.760And I think, you know, the younger kids maybe even worse where they were.
00:09:01.680That's some of the years where you're developing those emotional skills and social skills and they just missed out on that.0.84
00:09:07.240Oh, and not to mention those were years of indoctrination and trans becoming the new trend and returning to psycho teachers.
00:09:16.500We were all put on the ivy drip of Zoom and Apple News and so on at the expense of our social relationships, which we were told were dangerous.0.94
00:09:31.460We were actually told that not to be hooked to your digital, you know, thumb and not to be sucking it constantly was to expose yourself to the danger that is real life, which was literally turned into a source of contagion.
00:09:51.620your relatives, your neighbors, your own family. I remember, I mean, it's, we're forgetting the
00:10:00.560craziness already. You know, it took a long time after the Vietnam War ended for Vietnam War movies
00:10:05.500to start. But it's really time we start grappling with what went on. Because strangely, the Vietnam
00:10:12.300war, though terrible, affected soldiers most acutely. But COVID affected every single one of
00:10:22.120us. And as Owen pointed out, it affected seven-year-olds trying to learn to read.
00:10:27.300If I have a solemn duty as a writer, it's to reflect back my society's sins in a way that
00:10:34.000would allow them to overcome them and not repeat their mistakes. Kids have a window,
00:10:41.500a sort of a biological, neurological window in which their language skills are at their greatest
00:10:50.180and at their highest capacity. A lot of kids missed that window and aren't able to read as a
00:10:58.380result. That's awful. Yeah. Yeah, it is. And we always say like, never forget, but that was also
00:11:06.500another really good way, if you believe, if you guys listening happen to believe in a systematic
00:11:13.440way to try to divide a nation's people against each other, that was another really big way to
00:11:19.900witness that. I mean, friends like that, you know, shunned friends for not getting vaccinated. And,
00:11:24.860and, you know, and I, and I, they started it long before the vaccine came along. They started it
00:11:31.800with their social distancing, which they later admitted, Deborah Birx later admitted she made up
00:11:37.660the whole six-foot distance rule. They started it with their masking, and they basically caused us
00:11:46.180to fear each other at a primal level. I mean, I live in a little town in Montana, and you would
00:11:53.740see people swerve when another human being came down the street. You know, early on in The Rash,
00:12:00.140There's a little scene in which the Stanford professor who's trying to get the word out that the thing is is a hysteria, that the rash might be caused by fear of the rash, by scratching, not by an actual biological agent.
00:12:16.180And he's riding his bike down a path on the campus and another bike is coming along. And in the movie, they're wearing gloves instead of masks. And the other biker sees he doesn't have gloves on and swerves and crashes.
00:12:32.580I mean, that is hardly an exaggeration compared to what happened.
00:12:36.880Those kids playing, you know, clarinets inside of plastic tents.
00:12:41.640And what it really showed us is that step by step, drip by drip, we can be led into true insanity.
00:12:50.840Stuff that it's almost embarrassing to look back on because none of us, whoever we are, really fought back adequately.
00:13:00.200that's true and you're right it did start with fear uh with like you said visual cues like the
00:13:08.060masks and the distancing and the plastic curtains and the acrylic you know things and whatever the
00:13:14.700six feet and the things on the floor the stickers stand in your little spot and then it became you
00:13:20.120know did you hear erica didn't get vaccinated and then it's like don't invite her to the baby shower
00:13:53.040And I have this feeling that some hollowness that came during those years has never really left us.
00:14:02.580You still walk past stores or go to restaurants, and you get the feeling that everything has been turned down.
00:14:12.100The intensity of life, the vigor of life, the liveliness of life has never really come back in the way one would hope it will.
00:14:24.340Yeah. I mean, I think there's a lot of people that are still working remotely and just, you know, they're still talking about bringing people back to the office. But you've got all these empty buildings and all these big cities where nobody's going to the office anymore. Yeah. I still see people when I go to the airport wearing masks. And, you know, it's a lot of things are just different now.
00:14:44.260and look at taylor lorenz is that her name the young journalist chick who oh by the way walter
00:14:52.020i want to talk about taylor lorenz who was just thrilled not to to take a left turn but we're
00:15:00.140going to get there anyway who is thrilled about uh luigi mangioni shooting brian thompson is that0.91
00:15:06.980his name um so she's she's a psycho still wearing a mask and i'm not afraid to call her a psycho0.98
00:15:12.180because she is. She's real nice in real life, but I know her. She's a psycho.1.00
00:15:19.380Listen, across the board in the media right now, we have licensed psychos. Their job is to,1.00
00:15:27.820as they say, widen the Overton window. Their job is to push slowly at our minds until we're willing
00:15:34.700to tolerate the intolerable. And the Luigi operation, and that's what I'm going to call it,
00:15:42.160because it's not just an assassination. It is an ongoing attempt to launch a Robin Hood,
00:15:53.840sort of a cross between Robin Hood, Beatlemania, Charles Manson,
00:15:59.600Che Guevara as a revolutionary inspiration to the young of America and, you know, an assassin
00:16:09.440with abs. And truthfully, I've been a little wild on this subject since the beginning,
00:16:16.380because I'm not convinced we aren't being had about the whole thing. You know, we talk about
00:16:22.400Luigi killing someone, but we never saw that. We saw a man on a surveillance video in a hood
00:16:30.400and we saw someone else shot in the distance. And then later we saw video from a youth hostel
00:16:39.620in which someone in a similar hood took his hood down and showed his distinctive eyebrows.
00:16:46.060And when I see something take the form of the first episode of HBO series in which characters are revealed, in which the main, the star is shown in increasingly sexy and appealing ways, getting you, you know, drawn into their sort of erotic trance.
00:17:12.320I sit back and go, am I watching TV? People think that that means that I'm one of these
00:17:19.820guys who thinks everything's a hoax or a fraud or so on. And it's not quite that.
00:17:25.920You can take real elements. You can take things that happen. And by framing them,
00:17:32.480and this was Scott's, of course, genius to teach America that this was possible.
00:17:37.240And by framing them correctly and by putting them in a certain order and by adding commentary and then by bringing in secondary characters who comment on it and lead our thinking, we can turn it into a miniseries.
00:17:54.360This morning, I saw a video from Maine from a congressional candidate, I believe, at an audience of, you know, likely voters or supporters talking about what are we going to do with health care when we don't have enough Luigi Mangione's out there to solve the problem for us?
00:18:16.040We have, right up until this week, mainstreamed assassination using this incredibly appealing man, you know, whose sexual and sort of personal charms have been pushed on us constantly, even on late night TV.
00:18:37.680And, you know, I support Luigi such that when a gunman comes running into the White House Correspondents' Dinner the other night, there is a contingent of Americans that cheer for him.
00:18:52.260and that was the purpose of the whole thing you will never change my mind on this it it has been
00:18:59.100deliberate and whether or not the underlying event the original assassination is as we
00:19:06.500believe it to be it is inarguable that the contextualizing of the event has been a
00:19:15.440superhero movie for sickos and let's not forget please ever what happened to charlie kirk and we
00:19:23.400watched them cheer okay so we've been led down the garden path yeah this is a kind of this is a kind
00:19:30.700of digital 1960s you know and and i'm old enough unfortunately or fortunately to remember the very
00:19:37.580end of the 1960s i was born in 1962 and 69 or 68 when when the assassinations peaked when we lost
00:19:45.040Martin Luther King when we lost Bobby Kennedy when we you know and there were others we forget
00:19:50.200about you know Malcolm X a little earlier in the in the decade and of course JFK and then we had
00:19:56.280two assassination attempts on Gerald Ford in the mid-70s well I remember how that felt as a child
00:20:03.320and it looked to me that my society was fragile unraveling volatile and almost
00:20:11.880irrecoverably divided and now with the powers of social media to you know create narratives
00:20:19.460overnight create sub stories um create what they call stickiness such that you find some
00:20:26.360element of the story endlessly engaging you know uh they have run a replay of that
00:20:33.960Mm hmm. Yeah. And, you know, it's just they haven't. And this time, you know, the incident at Butler, which, you know, I could do a whole other show on like what I thought about that. But people pretended for a little while to care. The people that have dialed everything up pretended to care. This incident. Actually, I'm going to play this clip for you, for all of you.
00:20:59.000and then i want to react to it because after this one they didn't even pretend to try to turn down
00:21:05.940the heat and the rhetoric they they are just doubling down so i i already did my cursing
00:21:12.240in the green room you guys with owen i said every expletive i needed to about chuck todd
00:21:17.820uh but this clip just sends me okay let's let's listen i'm not going to any more events where
00:21:23.960Trump's Adam I don't feel safe wherever Donald Trump chaos follows him chaos follows him and you
00:21:29.320are less safe right if you decide to go into his orbit you have put you have become less safe if
00:21:34.520you he's just he does not care about your safety he's not going to protect you if you go into his
00:21:40.080orbit because he's always going to protect himself first he's more likely to throw you under the oh
00:21:44.100my god he's more likely to say if you're John Bolton or Mike Pompeo and he's going to pull
00:21:50.580any sort of federal support right you know i think about when somebody using donald trump's
00:21:56.420words and actions targeted me and a bunch of other god's name is he talking about you know
00:22:01.080who i didn't hear from donald trump right so the guy doesn't care when people commit violence in
00:22:07.320his name he only cares when the violence is committed against him and he does not oh my god
00:22:13.200he's he's equating being attacked to the atmosphere his journalism with being assassinated1.00
00:22:18.500What a fool. First of all, do you think that that's not scripted? Look at those two guys.1.00
00:22:27.260They're agreeing so hard their heads are going to merge. I mean, they're going to break through
00:22:32.260the screen and make love with their noses. They're agreeing so hard. Listen to what this man just
00:22:38.960said. He just said, a la COVID, that getting near Donald Trump is a form of contagion because you
00:22:48.960might yourself be collateral damage in an Iranian assassination attempt. Well, first of all, who said
00:22:55.780anything about Iranians? What? Where did you get that? Second of all, you are saying that a journalist
00:23:02.400yourself, who is supposed to be an intrepid person, not like the rest of us. I mean, yeah,
00:23:08.940maybe you don't want to put your seven-year-olds in harm's way, but Chuck, isn't your job to go0.98
00:23:14.600where others are afraid to go, but you won't even go to a damn party now? My friend, Michael Kelly,0.98
00:23:21.260who was a former editor of The Atlantic, died in the early days of the Iraq war. He decided that
00:23:27.820since this was a war that he personally supported and wanted to report on, he should be there with
00:23:33.620the troops at the beginning, and he was killed. Chuck Todd won't go to a frickin' Hilton hotel.0.64
00:23:40.620These people are fools, and why we're still listening to them, you know, I mean, we're not0.99
00:23:46.060listening to him as often or as loudly because he's come down vastly in the world, but why after0.99
00:23:52.600COVID, we are using this same cohort to inform ourselves about our reality is baffling to me.0.95
00:24:00.000And never acknowledging that they're the ones that spewed all the bullshit that put us in these0.99
00:24:06.680positions. I mean, there's never any self-awareness ever. It's insanity.0.98
00:24:11.520But let me put an asterisk there. It has become the conventional wisdom after these assassination
00:24:18.220attempts, that these figures were radicalized by the media and are lone wolves who just sort of
00:24:25.540got hypnotized or entranced by the Chuck Todd's of the world and then went off the rails and did
00:24:34.180some crazy thing. Only in America do we believe that political violence is the work of psychotics.
00:24:41.760If you hear about assassination attempts on an Italian leader or someone else abroad, you assume that there is a political motive and perhaps a plot involved.
00:24:57.680But here in America, we have used the Lee Harvey Oswald template to make every single one of these events look like a one-off, crazy-ass, you know, somebody snapped story.
00:25:10.360I think that that's misleading. I actually think that using Occam's razor, we should default to a suspicion that it is the political enemies of someone acting in concert and maybe in a way that involves prior planning and then media response in a coordinated fashion afterward.
00:25:40.360that that's what's happening i i i i'm i'm getting really tired of these little crazy manifestos
00:25:48.360coming out after these crimes and us deciding that the person just snapped and you know they
00:25:53.160were a lunatic and so on that causes us to stop asking questions and especially when our especially
00:26:00.040when our our prejudices are confirmed oh this guy watched too much msnbc well maybe it wasn't0.84
00:26:07.880watching too much MSNBC that caused this. Maybe Trump has real enemies. Maybe the powerful who
00:26:14.040had tried to take him out through Russiagate and other, you know, legal maneuvers and endless trials
00:26:22.680and perhaps tricky election schemes and COVID even possibly. Maybe they are also
00:26:32.360working behind the scenes here we at least have to consider it and this this nutty thought that
00:26:40.680it's always the lunatic i think prevents us from thinking deeply about our real predicament yeah
00:26:47.160i don't think this guy's a lunatic i mean he had plenty of time to think out what he was doing how
00:26:54.040he was going to get himself there i'll take the train obviously not a plane i've got knives i've
00:26:58.360I've got guns, you know, get there early, scope out the joint.
00:27:01.920Like this wasn't like a person like, you know, he did run in like a lunatic, but it wasn't
00:27:23.700We just found out that the Southern Poverty Law Center, our premier police organization for cultural opposition to hatred, was secretly sneaking millions of dollars out the back door to the very people that it claims to be opposing.
00:27:44.820And frankly, that trial is going to be one of the trials I want to watch most in my life because we will see these techniques.
00:27:54.100Now, having learned that, having learned that an NGO with $800 million in the bank was funneling money to people involved with Charlottesville, you know, one of Scott's favorite topics, are we going to revert to the naive belief that this guy just got on a train?
00:28:16.940you know, do you know how hard it is to evade the detective and surveillance capabilities of
00:28:26.700modern America? I mean, right now, and when we get off, we'll get on our phones, and all that
00:28:35.080data will be collected, all of it will be scrutinized if we are under suspicion for
00:28:40.420anything or if we're considered politically dangerous. It's the idea that people can do
00:28:48.940things alone in this society, rent hotel rooms, cross the country, buy weapons, and burst into
00:28:58.020huge events at which half the cabinet, the vice president and the president, I mean, not since
00:29:04.920the Lincoln assassination, which attempted to take out the whole top tier of the government,
00:29:10.420uh, have we had a plan which attempted to do the same that I know of? Um, and so I, I think we're0.98
00:29:19.320being really led along by the nose when we think this is, this is likely a one-off. Yeah. So Walter,
00:29:30.300that's, uh, you brought something up. That's a, a, a big concern and question for me that I've
00:29:36.260been talking about lately. So why were, why was everybody who makes important decisions in this
00:29:44.760White House, in this administration, in the room for the White House Correspondents Dinner of all
00:29:50.800events? They all had to go there. And when we, I don't want to say we, when our government dropped
00:29:58.000the first bomb in Iran, it was because they knew all of those officials were together in a building0.62
00:30:03.420and they said, let's get them all at once. So who decides of all these people? Yeah,
00:30:09.140we need Tulsi, Kash Patel, Pete Hegseth, Vance, the president, I mean, Besen, RFKJ.
00:30:17.560Like, why were they all in one room together? And for this, I'm sorry, stupid event?0.99
00:30:24.300I have no idea, especially since Trump avoided it the last couple of years.0.99
00:30:28.400You know, he didn't go to this dinner. And then suddenly they all show up.
00:30:34.220Erica and everybody who's listening, I'm completely willing to be the lone lunatic on this topic.
00:30:42.440I don't think we understand anymore and have very good sources of information on the events that shape our politics.
00:30:51.220It is as likely that this guy was sponsored by others as it is that he acted alone.
00:31:03.760Why Trump and his entire cabinet decided to show up for a low security dinner at a Hilton with their proven adversaries in the press is a bit of a mystery.
00:31:17.600Some of these mysteries will be partly solved. But at this point, I think any attempt to analyze them must run up against the notion that we don't know much and that past events like COVID, you know, like January 6th, you know, like all sorts of watershed moments have turned out to be not as they appeared.
00:31:43.900And this will turn out to be not as it appeared. That's all I know. All I know is that I know very little. And all I know is that the forces of distortion and deception have never been more active or more skilled.
00:31:59.940And so to live in a society where you resign yourself to the fact that the theater you're watching obscures theater, you can't obscures realities you can't imagine is tough. But I think we have to get there if we want to be mature.
00:32:15.880Yeah. Marcella, did you want to chime in? I'm just like rambling on over here.
00:32:20.120You know, I was thinking something that you just said, Erica, about how Iran gathered all of their, you know, I don't know what you call them, mullahs or generals into one room, and we were able to bomb the hell out of it, and we were able to, you know, kill Khomeini, or however you pronounce his name.0.78
00:32:42.180But I was thinking maybe it was a sign, like maybe it was planned that everybody would be there in the White House Correspondence Center as a show to Iran that there's security and we're not afraid and we have all of the weapons.0.67
00:33:00.880you know like trump was saying we completely demised you ran and maybe it was sort of a showing
00:33:09.040to them as well that could be you know um like we can gather together and there would be no issue
00:33:17.280however you know there's the sky and then everybody's like there was no security here
00:33:23.280because i'm a novelist i think a little differently than others
00:33:26.800uh i i i think of uh stories that would hang together if they were in true and and and and
00:33:34.080i speculate and i i sort of use a multiverse model and and then i compare the different possible
00:33:41.680dramas with each other and see how well they suit the facts and how well they suit the times
00:33:46.800and how well they suit the known motivations of the various players in our society
00:33:51.920I think it's perfectly possible that this plot was partly known, that this threat was partly understood.
00:34:06.740I don't I find it outlandish to think that these people place themselves in harm's way in this fashion on on hostile territory.
00:34:22.380Now, of course, we've got half these people on Blue Sky going, oh, it was all it was all a stunt created to foster support for the White House ballroom.
00:34:34.400I mean, one of the problems in a time when you don't know what's true is that things that are real appear to be fake and things that are fake appear to be real.
00:34:47.940And I think this is a case of something real appearing to many to be fake.
00:34:55.560Just last week, before this even happened, there was a huge surge on social media among some kind of august people.
00:35:04.400of Butler, Pennsylvania denialism. It's very strange how social media seems to prepare us
00:35:15.520for events. And just a week ago, we were finding out how many people thought that the Butler
00:35:23.340assassination attempt was fake. And here we get another one. There's also a possibility that this
00:35:29.220wasn't meant to succeed, that this was a stunt meant to authorize people like Chuck Todd to start
00:35:37.360scaring everybody such that Trump can't go out and campaign this fall, you know, such that people
00:35:44.460are afraid to be at his events. What Chuck said had no basis in what actually happened. He said
00:35:53.020that you as a supporter, as an American citizen, are in harm's way if you are around Trump.
00:36:00.580And journalists are in harm's way. Now, have we had one assassination attempt that has harmed a
00:36:06.940journalist recently? Not that I know of. But we did in the Trump-Butler case have a fireman who
00:36:14.940was killed and others who were wounded. And so this sounds to me like an attempt to launch a
00:36:24.640meme. There's a blast zone around Trump. You know how you get those little maps of the nuclear bomb
00:36:30.940drops here and then at this radius, everybody dies within a day. At this radius, they all get
00:36:39.480cancer. They're trying to create a map around Trump of danger. If you're in his physical
00:36:46.620proximity, you might get hit by a bullet. If you're on the next ring out, you might get hit
00:36:53.200by a bomb or a terrorist with an automatic weapon. This is absolutely transparent, what
00:37:03.400they're doing they're they're trying to make this man covid toxic they're recommending social
00:37:10.860distancing again that's exactly what they're doing socially distance yourself because you
00:37:16.600might get shrapnel well and they're they're not even hiding the fact that if they get power again
00:37:21.980they're going to start the impeachments and they're promising to punish in jail anybody who
00:37:27.040was working with trump i mean that that's all over the place they're not they're not hiding that
00:37:31.340They're saying that they want to go after every single person that worked in the Trump administration.
00:37:35.920Trump's adversaries have made one mistake, and I think it will turn out to be a strategic and ruinous error for them.
00:43:52.760You know, this is being construed as some sort of minor charge. He hid some records.
00:43:57.400He falsified some information. The entire pyramid of COVID tyranny was built on false information. Had America known at the beginning that what they were dealing with was an engineered virus with American fingerprints on it from a Chinese lab, not some dreaded primal pathogen from a cave full of vampire bats?
00:44:27.400They weren't vampire bats, but the implication sounds better, you know, they were things we should be afraid of in a horror movie way.
00:44:35.580Had that information been early and accurate and not hidden and not concealed, we would not have worshipped Anthony Fauci.
00:44:47.040We would not have followed any of these people.
00:44:49.720We would not have we would have demanded truth from our government rather than let them tell us what to do.
00:44:56.000We would have had, frankly, a rebellion, because if the virus had been as serious as they told us it was, because remember, there were vastly inflated statistics about its death rate and its seriousness.
00:45:17.900But had it been that serious, and we found out that this thing came from EcoHealth Alliance, and Dr. Ralph Baric, and the University of North Carolina, and the labs of the U.S. government, all working through China?
00:45:34.340What? Who knew that we had a partnership with the Chinese bio-warfare labs?0.71
00:45:41.100We would be living in a different world right now.0.99
00:45:45.720And, you know, it all starts with a lie. It all starts with a lie. And the lies are small, but when they compound with interest over time, they become trillion dollar lies. And this was one of them. So throw the book at him, get it as on the record as possible. Push him to sing because he was by far, he was far from alone.
00:46:10.780You don't just freelance these kind of lives. He obviously had an entire department that was laughing along with him and complicit and who he felt he could just sort of jokingly say, hey, I figured out a way to make things go away.
00:46:27.280wait a second that's institutional that bureaucratic across the board deception and
00:46:34.260rot I want to see them I want to see them all in the dock because if your limo company that did
00:46:42.820weddings like a guy I met down in Austin Texas was ruined overnight by the fact that there
00:46:48.380weren't that weddings anymore you kind of want to know why this guy is still walking around
00:46:54.340and you're digging ditches and you know if he's lying okay there's 50 people that know he's lying
00:47:03.080that are also in on it and maybe because they all know the lies that each one of them are telling
00:47:08.240because if fauci was you know up and up which he's not my opinion um and he heard it you know
00:47:16.180i have to say my opinion or marcella will you don't need it you don't need a pardon that goes
00:47:20.080back to 2014 if you're on the up and up right i mean they all know each other's life covers all
00:47:26.400possible sins i mean there's some things that you know maybe people don't immediately connect
00:47:31.560the dots on like if all this is true that it was an engineered virus it is true it was those people
00:47:36.960murdered millions of people right like that that's biological warfare that's against all
00:47:43.040sorts of laws everything but they murdered millions of people and then damaged bazillions
00:47:49.760of people with this vaccine and then if this was all engineered then where my mind goes and went
00:47:56.580at the time because i suspected it was engineered so i was thinking about this at the time but like
00:48:00.200we started with what the alpha strain and then this really bad delta strain came out and no one
00:48:05.520really knew exactly how it mutated into this really you know deadly strain and then not long
00:48:11.780after it got completely replaced with this omicron that was much less deadly and you know i mean like
00:48:18.580where did these things come from? If the original one came out of a lab, then maybe every single
00:48:23.080strain came out of the lab and it was all deliberate when they released them.
00:48:26.880But the entire litany of events that you just recited came through polluted channels and
00:48:33.060scientists who lie. So you don't know that all this Delta Omicron rhetoric that you were fed
00:48:39.720was fed you by the same people who lied in the first place. So the truth is that if you were
00:48:46.020in a criminal trial where a witness has caught lying early in their testimony, why the hell
00:48:52.740would you recite the rest of their testimony as somehow legitimate, trustworthy or not? We are
00:49:00.480completely 100% in the dark about the very fundamental nature of this pandemic.
00:49:09.100I understand I can't trust any of what they tell us, but I do think that, like, I'm just saying
00:49:15.160that there's an implication there that if they engineered this thing, even if it was an accidental
00:49:21.020release when it first came out, I would imagine then they're saying, okay, how do we manage this,
00:49:27.000right? Like that's, how do we cover this up? But not only that, how do we keep this from
00:49:31.560by telling the truth is how you're out of control. And so they, I would imagine it was an accident,
00:49:38.160then they'd tell the truth about it. Like supposedly the Soviets would have done about0.91
00:49:43.660Chernobyl had they not been a communist bureaucracy. We're no better than apparently0.83
00:49:51.040they were with Chernobyl if, in fact, our first instinct was to lie about an accident.
00:49:56.580If it wasn't an accident, then something much graver happened.
00:50:00.700And then to lie about the treatment. I wanted to ask you, Walter, for some advice. So,
00:50:08.360you know, a lot of us, I get the fear, you know, I, I, I was afraid at first I was like,
00:50:14.400oh my God, you know, what are we doing? Um, I got to get extra peanut butter. I don't know why.
00:50:19.260Um, and I need gloves and I hit home, like ordering from Amazon when this thing was starting
00:50:24.280ahead of the curve. Actually, I was watching what was happening in China and I'm like,
00:50:27.640I got to start getting things into my house now. What was happening in China by way? What were you
00:50:32.520watching? I was watching the videos that they were showing us videos of people toppling over
00:50:37.720in train stations. That's right. You thought this was real? I didn't know. I didn't know in
00:50:44.100the beginning, but I quickly, listen, I am the most skeptical person. I am a fearful person in
00:50:51.260the beginning. And then, then this is what I was going to ask you for the advice. So then, you know,
00:50:56.580you guys, I just want us to remember because there's everything, look at the hoax list we
00:51:02.200created with Scott, right? All the hoaxes, look at the Southern Poverty Law Center. I mean,
00:51:06.920They're they're creating hoaxes to prove a point that the people on the right are racist.
00:51:13.120OK, Erica, we live in a hoaxocracy. Yes.
00:51:16.520In fact, it's very hard to find any of these events that on real scrutiny stand up.
00:51:28.160And and I didn't mean to embarrass you, but when I but when I point out that your fear was based on what smuggled
00:51:35.840surveillance videos from childhood of people falling like timber forest trees onto the floor
00:51:43.920and that was the basis wow we are really vulnerable we are really vulnerable if a bunch of
00:51:50.880crap tick tock videos can send us into paroxysms of panic and yeah the reason that that rash movie
00:51:58.960of mine is I think, uh, gaining such opposition is that they don't want us aware of how easily1.00
00:52:08.680fooled we are because it was now in retrospect, a comedy that those stupid videos caused a country1.00
00:52:16.480to lock itself indoors. Oh yeah. So I watched those videos at first, like everybody was,1.00
00:52:23.800And I was like, Oh, I'll get prepared. I don't know what this is. Um, I, I am really proud to
00:52:30.420say that I did not get vaccinated. I did not, you know, like I had to do a couple of tests
00:52:35.900because I was flying somewhere. Otherwise I wouldn't have, um, I quickly fell out of the
00:52:43.480whole thing because this is what I wanted to say. If you could just help us with advice,
00:52:49.920because what I was seeing was, okay, so I can't do anything. I can't see my, you know, sick and
00:52:56.200dying father. You can't sing happy birthday to your kid because singing happy birthday will make
00:53:01.360everyone sick. The whole thing. However, you can pour across our border and not get a vaccine as
00:53:10.100you're pouring across the border and just get let off into the middle of the country. No problem.0.94
00:53:15.640you can riot you can burn your cities down you can lewd you can beat people up and you can scream
00:53:22.720in the streets no problem but everybody else six feet apart put your mask on so my thing i was
00:53:29.700going to ask you walter is like can you talk to us about just like the common sense of it because
00:53:35.220that's kind of all i see now is like well wait like this is what i have to do but everything
00:53:40.080else is not a problem. So how serious is this? Can I leave you with a quotable piece of advice
00:53:47.760on this? There's an old saying, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Well, the obverse is
00:53:56.060also correct. If it's too bad to be true, it probably is fake. In other words, if the world
00:54:04.960is ending on the basis of some surveillance videos from China that got here by some mysterious
00:54:14.080fashion and were shown on the news shows of proven liars, it's probably not true.
00:54:21.780Listen, if all of America had had a power outage for two weeks and there would have been no CNN,
00:54:29.160you know, no internet, and so on, we probably would have been better off than informing
00:54:37.120ourselves. We've gotten to the point where if it comes through a polluted channel,
00:54:43.080don't listen. The risk of getting something wrong is low. The risk of being recruited for a massive
00:54:54.980massive mass formation operation that will ruin your society is high. Whenever you see these
00:55:02.440people talking in concert, whenever you see that matrix-like array of screens and words like safety0.99
00:55:10.280and so on coming out of many mouths at once, you are looking at the Greek monster known as the
00:55:17.100gorgon with you know many heads many eyes and turn away if it's too bad to be true it probably
00:55:26.720isn't so now what's your advice to the people that might be hearing this that are not afraid
00:55:35.680but afraid of the scrutiny from the other people who are falling for it and i'm going to be
00:55:40.440castigated for my group and i'm going to be shunned and no one's like for me i my answer
00:55:46.860is like so what who cares right like i don't care don't answer to them is you are not an insect
00:55:52.380you do not live in a hive you're a primate who stands on two feet and can use tools and has a
00:55:58.700brain if you were me if if you want to reduce yourself to the level of an ant in an anthill
00:56:05.980or a bee in a hive go ahead but you have taken all of your evolutionary advantages and thrown them
00:56:12.620away. You have the ability to walk alone. You have the ability to find new friends. If social life
00:56:20.680and fitting into the group is your final value, then go to a ranch, jump the fence, and join the
00:56:31.440cow herd grazing in the pasture. Walk around on all fours. My Lord, a little bit of courage from
00:56:39.000a lot of people can change everything. Yes. Talk to your neighbors, you guys. That's what we were
00:56:45.540saying this the other day. If we all, for the people who were like, you know what, I'm not
00:56:51.960buying into this and I'm not doing this. If more of us had talked to our neighbors and people like
00:56:58.540about our thought and idea, maybe they would have felt brave also like, oh, you know what? All right.
00:57:04.220So maybe I was nervous about this, but Erica feels this way and I feel this way and I'm going to talk to someone else and maybe enough of us could, you know, get the little cyclone going.
00:57:13.160The real effect, and I would even say the intent of lockdowns, was to keep people from comparing notes.
00:57:21.480Because if you can compare notes and you're willing to, you know, take that dangerous trip to your neighbor's front door, you can learn a lot.
00:57:30.580yeah well and certainly scott played a big role of that during that time you know calming us all
00:57:35.240down and keeping us from getting panicked and you know i i certainly took note of all the policies
00:57:40.560being so inconsistent where it's like you can eat in a restaurant you got to wear a mask until you0.72
00:57:45.020get to your table but then then you can take it off and we got to close down all the gyms and you
00:57:50.580can't go outside and exercise and you can't go to church but you can go to a strip club and like
00:57:56.300there were these weird rules where it's like somebody's deciding what's essential. All the
00:58:00.960big businesses get to stay open, but the small businesses have to close.
00:58:04.740Wait, you could go to a strip club? I didn't know.
00:58:07.240I'm pretty sure they let them stay open. Yeah.