Joel Pollack joins us on the pod to talk about his love of coffee and his love for Spirit Airlines, the airline that brought him to California. Plus, the dopamine hit of the day: the thing that makes everything better: The " simultaneous sip."
00:06:29.080I'm now doing a second draft where I'm typing. And what I do is I take the handwritten draft and I go through each page and I type it out. But as I'm typing, I make some changes, some additions, some corrections. I add links when I know I'm going to have to footnote something later.
00:06:45.180and so it's a process of building the book and I'm very excited about it I do think it's going
00:06:54.060to be a best-selling book and I think this audience is going to enjoy it I think you're
00:06:59.240going to enjoy reading it sharing it buying it spreading the word about it there are some new
00:07:03.440ideas in this book and some new stories that you may not have heard some people may have had little
00:07:10.380hints of here and there but I do think there's going to be new information in the book
00:07:14.480and i think it's going to be a very exciting biography we are hoping to have it out
00:07:19.300in the fall my personal deadline for the second draft is july 4th i like pegging these deadlines
00:07:27.000to fun occasions so i have something to look forward to the 250th anniversary the big party
00:07:32.120the fireworks so that'll be the second draft and then there will be a third draft but that one is
00:07:36.720going to have to go much more quickly and i'm going to be hopefully doing more interviews
00:07:42.600reaching out to more people i've started already to talk to them about scott and some of the
00:07:48.580interactions they had with him so i can fill in the book i don't want it to be too long i want it
00:07:54.340to be compact enough to be very readable portable so people can enjoy it as they travel people can
00:08:01.440hand it easily to other people i have written one biography before which was very long that was
00:08:05.880because i wanted to include some of this person's writings in the book but i need to keep this one
00:08:11.620tighter. I think people will appreciate that, that it is going to be a concise but very powerful
00:08:17.120biography. I'm very excited about that. It's a project that's keeping me going. I work on it
00:08:21.680every morning. If I don't finish my daily quota of pages in the morning, I come back to it in the
00:08:26.600afternoon. You can do anything if you break it up into small pieces. I have a system. That's my
00:08:34.100process, as Scott would say. That's my system. I will eventually get there. That's amazing.
00:08:38.960You, you did tell us a little bit about your system before, but I love, like we, we need
00:08:43.480Joel to give us a lesson at some point on his, I mean, you are busy people, really,
00:08:49.500really busy people seem to get more done.
00:08:52.200I mean, I listened to people, like even the fact that you already took a run and you're
00:09:07.860Well, there are limits too. I think that I need to slow down just a little bit and get a little
00:09:13.280more sleep just for health reasons. So I'm trying not to add new things and trying to complete
00:09:20.300things. And so I am a little less busy than I was before. I'm also working on another project
00:09:26.480that I've been doing for almost seven years, which is a daily study of the Talmud, which is
00:09:34.300the compendium of Jewish law. And I write a paragraph a day on each page. And if you do a
00:09:40.280page a day, you finish in seven and a half years as part of this global study program. And I was
00:09:46.460doing a lot of additional work on that. And I wound that down a couple months ago, it was just
00:09:51.520too much. So I'm just sticking to my daily minimum. But it is true that if you give something
00:09:58.940to someone who's busy, they tend to be able to do it because the only way to maintain any kind of
00:10:05.760level of performance, if you have a lot of things to do, is to have a system. And I like to talk
00:10:10.140about the big five. So my big five are I pray, I write in my journal, I do some work, I do something
00:10:16.680creative, and I get some exercise. And if I can do those big five things before nine in the morning,
00:10:21.920my entire day is set. It doesn't matter what else happens the rest of the day. I've had a successful
00:10:26.420day. Okay. Say the five again. Pray, write in my journal, do something else that's creative,
00:10:34.400do something for work and exercise. Okay. I have a question. So what,
00:10:40.620cause we were talking about this the other day. What, like, give us an example of like,
00:10:44.900what's something else creative? So in this case, it's the Scott biography. So that's my other
00:10:50.540creative project, but it could be anything. It could be writing a poem. It could be writing a
00:10:56.360page in a short story. It can really be anything. It can be writing a song, something else to
00:11:03.260get your creativity on the page or onto a video. There are some days where I've allowed myself
00:11:10.360just to take photographs as the creative project for the day. I do that anyway, but
00:11:15.340some days I say, okay, I'm too busy to do all the creative stuff I want to do, but I am going to take
00:11:21.120a couple of cool pictures this morning. That's one of the motivations also to exercise. When
00:11:26.160I'm in California I love to run down to the beach because there are always beautiful things to
00:11:29.460photograph so you can achieve two things at once you do the creative project at the same time you're
00:11:35.560doing the exercise and you can't devote a huge amount of energy to each of those things you
00:11:42.360learn that you have to budget your time so sometimes instead of writing three pages in
00:11:47.000my journal I'll write one page and instead of exercising for half an hour I'll just get 15
00:11:51.680minutes in and sometimes it's not a proper workout it's just a walk around the block but that counts
00:11:55.640one of the things scott said was that even if you just drive to the gym and you sit in the parking
00:12:01.300lot and you don't feel motivated to get out of the car but you've made the time in your schedule to
00:12:05.300go to the gym you have gone to the gym you have to check that off a fitness trainer will tell you
00:12:11.100you didn't achieve it but scott points out that you have to think about it as a system and if you
00:12:16.600integrate it into your life tomorrow you're going to get out of your car you're going to go inside
00:12:21.320You're going to do something. Make it easy for yourself to achieve little things. I used to hate
00:12:26.440lifting weights. Actually, I still hate lifting weights, but I found other ways of exercising that
00:12:31.300are more fun. And now I do weights, but I also don't put pressure on myself to keep up with the
00:12:37.040other guys in the gym necessarily. I mean, I can do 10 pull-ups, which is much more than I could do
00:12:41.340a couple of years ago. I think I could do one a couple of years ago. But when you see guys pulling
00:12:46.180out these very large dumbbells and doing a million reps, you just have to focus on your
00:12:52.680own workout. And it's easier to do that if you make it easier for yourself and don't feel
00:12:56.480embarrassed about what you're picking up or how easy something is relative to what other people
00:13:01.800are doing. Just make it part of your system. Do not feel embarrassed. Scott always told us
00:13:06.220that. Scott had no embarrassment feeling. Although I think I got him one time and I have it on video.
00:13:13.280i'll have to dig that up and show you guys um i think i i caught him off guard one day it was
00:13:17.360pretty funny um but yeah don't be embarrassed and also that's why i kind of um i loved when i took
00:13:24.640yoga classes and somebody said to me listen the instructor actually just said it's your your mat
00:13:31.360is your space it's your practice it's about you and i kind of feel that way going through life
00:13:38.160like it is it's about me and like the space around me i'm not that guy like joel can do you know 10
00:13:44.800pull-ups i can like maybe just hang there and then cry and let go of the bar you know but it doesn't
00:13:49.920mean i wouldn't try um so don't be embarrassed and i agree you can budget your time i like that
00:13:55.560too because it's like i can't do like you know all those things before i start my work day but
00:13:59.800no one said each thing is an hour it can it's just getting through those things in whatever
00:14:04.080way you can. I love that. I like the things that you do, Joel. That's nice. Very good.
00:14:09.900So I've also had some other opportunities out here. And with the news of Shelly's passing,
00:14:18.140it's been an opportunity to think about Scott and really try to process
00:14:22.560what Scott's passing means. And of course, it's sudden and very sad news.
00:14:29.800But one of the amazing things, as I've gotten to know Scott and Shelly and their families over the years, is how much love Shelly created around herself, how many friends she had, and how many people just loved having a good time with her.
00:14:49.100And there are people with different strengths and different missions in life.
00:14:53.560And I think Shelly Adams' mission was to help the people around her and make them happy.
00:14:59.180Scott believed in being useful and he was useful in an incredible way and I think Shelly believed
00:15:07.560in sharing love which is also useful but is useful in a different way because when you give
00:15:15.780of yourself the way she gave to Scott and the way she gave to people in her family and her wide
00:15:20.060circle of friends you just radiate joy and it multiplies it doesn't grow in a linear way it
00:15:26.380grows in an exponential way. Because when you make the people around you happier, they make
00:15:31.300the people around them happier. And there's just this critical mass of happiness that explodes in
00:15:38.800every direction. And I think that's who she was. And that's why, although the news of her passing
00:15:47.080has been incredibly difficult, it's also amazing to see how many people loved her so deeply. And
00:15:54.940it's an opportunity to think about what Scott's passing means and I was thinking of something he
00:16:01.580said a long time ago and I found it on YouTube I think they took it from TikTok which was originally
00:16:08.240from YouTube or something but there's this clip of Scott talking about the Peter Gabriel song
00:16:14.440Salisbury Hill and I loved that song as a kid because when I was 15 my parents took us to the
00:16:23.420UK. We have British family. And we went to Stonehenge. And there's a town near Stonehenge
00:16:29.560called Salisbury. I thought the two were the same. They're actually not. But Salisbury was so charming
00:16:36.020and so quiet and peaceful on a great summer day, just had a kind of beauty to it. I remember as a
00:16:42.000kid, we went somewhere for tea and we had tea, the very British ritual of tea in Salisbury. And I had
00:16:47.400a very positive memory of that experience. And so I thought Peter Gabriel was singing about that town
00:16:54.340and that the song in a way was about religion. Scott thought the song was about religion as well.
00:17:00.400But when you hear him talk about it, and he spoke about it in the wake of his second divorce
00:17:05.460from Christina, he said that the song moved him in a way he hadn't expected.
00:17:12.460And the conclusion he arrived at after listening to the song and reading the lyrics was that the
00:17:16.660song was about how everything fails. Everything ends and everything ends poorly. That sounds
00:17:21.820pessimistic, but Scott found it incredibly optimistic because if you accept and understand
00:17:27.000that everything ends badly, even in the best world, right? Even if you have a marriage that
00:17:31.680lasts, I have family friends who were married for 75 years and the wife passed away before the
00:17:36.260husband. The husband's 99 years old and still alive and well and playing tennis and traveling
00:17:41.420around the world. He's an extraordinary man, but it still ends in heartbreak because you've been
00:17:46.180together forever and one of you has to pass away first. George Orwell says that the inevitable
00:17:51.520outcome of love is a broken heart. So Scott said, when you understand that, it enables you to savor
00:18:00.420what you have and to forgive things that are hurtful, forgive yourself for mistakes you've
00:18:07.720made, forgive other people for doing something wrong. When you understand that everything fails
00:18:12.020in the end that everything ends poorly, it gives you a kind of freedom to forgive and to enjoy the
00:18:17.860good things in life, even if there were also painful moments. And I think that insight liberated
00:18:22.800him from the emotional difficulty of the second divorce. And it just came up for me in thinking
00:18:29.400about Shelley and thinking about Scott and how they were able to find a friendship even after
00:18:35.520they got divorced and to work together. And she took care of him in his last days. I know that
00:18:41.000he would be heartbroken to know that she did not have a second life to live, which she really could
00:18:47.560have and should have. But I think if you just remember everything ends poorly, you savor the
00:18:54.240things that you had. And I think that she had an incredible life. So I really thought about that a
00:18:59.480lot. And then yesterday, I went to a funeral for somebody else, a leader in our community in
00:19:07.220Pacific Palisades. So, you know, I'm from Pacific Palisades, most of which burnt down in the fire
00:19:11.520last year. And there was a guy named Larry Vane, who many of us didn't know. He had some connection
00:19:20.100to the Palisades, but he became very prominent in the aftermath of the fire in helping people.
00:19:26.740He had a podcast where he gave people useful information. He showed up at all the community
00:19:31.160events. And I never knew what to make of him. I was always friendly toward him. I never knew
00:19:37.200exactly what he was doing and why, because he seemed very close to Mayor Karen Bass, whom a
00:19:45.060lot of us don't have a lot of time for. That's not to say we'll vote for or against her in the
00:19:50.620election. It's just a separate issue. But she was out of the country when the fire happened. And a0.93
00:19:55.060lot of people are very upset that the city was unprepared for the fire. So he was very close to
00:20:00.440her and I could never quite figure out why and a year ago today today May 6th 2025 I made my
00:20:08.920peace with Larry I don't even remember exactly how we did it but we had some kind of conversation
00:20:13.660in the weeks leading up to May 6th and he held this event at the Santa Monica Pier for Pacific
00:20:21.320Palisades residents and he gave out all these awards to people who had contributed to the
00:20:27.320community. And he gave me an award for journalism because in the weeks after the fire, I was the
00:20:32.740only local journalist up in the fire zone writing about what was happening and connecting people to
00:20:37.200information about their properties and so forth. And that was a year ago today. It was the last
00:20:43.600time my kids and I were all together at the Santa Monica Pier. It was one of the last weeks we were
00:20:48.140all in LA because we moved to DC to join my wife who took a job with the Trump administration.
00:20:55.200And we're still planning on coming back here. I visited my house this week, which is being repaired. The whole back wall is missing. And it's been an endless fight with insurance companies and so on. But Larry committed suicide. And it shocked everybody when we found out last week, how could this incredibly optimistic person do that?
00:21:15.960and we don't understand the pain that people are going through we don't see that sometimes
00:21:25.480public people who are very happy who are giving of themselves are wrestling with private demons
00:21:31.160and dangers that we can only imagine and we wouldn't imagine we don't spend time thinking
00:21:38.240about what other people might be going through if we don't see any external signs of that and the
00:21:43.960whole community came to the funeral and it was very sad and I walked around the cemetery Hollywood
00:21:51.440Forever which is a famous cemetery in LA my mother-in-law happens to be there her ashes are
00:21:57.820there and I went and I paid my respects to her and I just cried because of how much I miss her
00:22:04.560and she died from cancer at a young age and near her there are some very famous graves there's the
00:22:12.400grave of Joey Ramone from the Ramones, the great punk rocker, which is a really famous grave because
00:22:18.260it's got a sculpture of him playing guitar on top of the gravesite. And there's also the grave of
00:22:24.160Helena Hutchins, who was that filmmaker that was shot by Alec Baldwin on the set of Rust,
00:22:31.140shot and killed. And she's buried right near my mother-in-law. And you just think about how
00:22:37.740precious life is and you think about the tragic choice to end life that larry chose and you can't
00:22:47.180judge anybody in that position but when you have things in a proper perspective you see how much
00:22:51.820there is to live for and you also see as you walk around a cemetery how many people clung to life
00:22:57.540and wanted to live my mother-in-law wanted to live she wanted to live for her grandchildren and
00:23:02.300we have to make use of what we have. We have to make use of the time we have. We don't know
00:23:09.740when the end of life is coming. We just don't know. I look at Scott's old videos and how could
00:23:17.120he possibly have known that four or five years from recording that Salisbury Hill video that
00:23:23.560he would be diagnosed with cancer? How could he know that? How could anybody know? You have to
00:23:28.440live as fully and as well as you possibly can and that's why we come together to mourn people
00:23:36.620no matter how they pass away we come together to mourn them because we remind ourselves not just
00:23:42.760about how wonderful the people were that we're mourning but also how important life is and how
00:23:47.860important the living are to each other and how we have to support one another and I left that
00:23:52.000cemetery and said I can't explain what Larry's private demons were I don't know I'm not going
00:23:56.860to speculate. I'm really sad that it came to that. But I am determined to succeed. I'm determined to
00:24:03.640rebuild our community. I'm determined to repair my house. If I had to add up the dollars and cents,
00:24:08.560I would never do it because it doesn't make any financial sense. But I think the trick to flying
00:24:16.100is not to look down. It doesn't mean you do silly things and take silly risks. You have to keep
00:24:22.040reality in some perspective, but there are some things that are worth doing that just don't make
00:24:27.160sense and you have to do them anyway. I think love is one of those things. Love is a risk
00:24:31.560that is actually irrational, but we do it anyway. When I met my wife, she was moving to another
00:24:38.140country, but I followed her because I knew that this was going to be an incredible relationship
00:24:44.100and I was willing to give everything up for that. My friend at the time, my best friend told me I
00:24:49.700was being foolish and I was going to get hurt. And I just decided it was probably likely I was0.93
00:24:54.760going to get hurt and I was going to do it anyway. So I think we just have to keep that in mind. And
00:24:59.320I think Scott and Shelley are incredible examples of people who lived their mission every single
00:25:07.240day. And Scott knew the end was coming. Shelley didn't. But that's how it is for all of us. And
00:25:15.180who's to say which is the best way to go. But confronting death is also about learning how
00:25:20.700to live. And I just think that Shelley would want us to keep this going and to keep life as vibrant
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00:25:57.760oh man that is just so beautiful joel honestly i have to i have to re-listen to that that's
00:26:09.040that's just such wisdom from experience and taking chances and everything you've learned
00:26:16.900listening to people and adapting it. I just think that's so beautiful. And, and Joel,
00:26:23.080I want to also thank you. I don't want to cry. Okay. So I also want to thank you because you
00:26:30.900checked on me a lot. And I don't know if you know how much that meant to me, but you know,
00:26:39.180we're newer friends. Um, and I'm beyond grateful for our friendship, but you know, you're the,
00:26:46.340you're a very thoughtful person and we're talking about how busy you are all the time. And you made
00:26:50.940time to check on me and take your time to talk to me. And, you know, I just, um, I took that
00:26:58.320example. And I, I am implementing that kind of kindness in my life to check on people and make
00:27:05.460sure that I'm showing up for people. So I just want to, you know, make sure I really let you know
00:27:10.800that you, you mean the world to me and you show up for people, you show up for us, you show up
00:27:18.840for Scott, you show up for Shelly. Um, you know, so I think I can speak for everybody here. You
00:27:25.660know, we, we know how lucky you are when you come on here and you talk to us and your busy schedule,
00:27:30.480but, you know, just thank you for showing up and caring and taking your time. And, um,
00:27:37.280I'll never forget like the role that you've played in my life through some of my difficult
00:27:42.840times. So thank you for that and being here. Ooh. Um, so moving along, should we shift gears
00:27:52.700while we still have you here into some uh other info joel yeah oh you have to go i know so i have
00:28:00.080to go in a couple of minutes but i covered the california gubernatorial debate last night which
00:28:05.800was very interesting and it's interesting to watch the media manufacture an outcome in a way because
00:28:13.140the problem that democrats faced in the governor's race was there were too many of them
00:28:18.080so first Eric Swalwell was suddenly exposed for being a creep after so many years it all just
00:28:25.860happened very suddenly so one candidate gone so now that narrows the field and then we were told
00:28:30.620by political media that Javier Becerra is the front runner there was no evidence that he was
00:28:37.080the front runner there was just some democratic consultant who put out a poll saying that he was
00:28:41.440doing better now that Swalwell is gone and so he became the front runner and everyone talks about
00:28:47.780him like the frontrunner. And he suddenly starts rising in the polls, even though he has no money
00:28:51.900and no ads, nothing. He's the frontrunner. Tom Steyer has spent 100 million bucks on the race
00:28:57.160or something like that. And he's the frontrunner because everybody sees him on TV all the time. So
00:29:01.000we now have two Democratic frontrunners. They could still split the vote between them, but0.99
00:29:04.840it's just interesting to watch. The Republicans, there are two of them. They buried the hatchet
00:29:10.100at the debate. They realized that neither of them will win if they attack each other. So
00:29:15.240that was interesting to see. We still don't know what's going to happen in that race.
00:29:18.940I gave a talk yesterday morning to some people who wanted to know what I thought about the
00:29:23.000political situation in California. And I'll just summarize it by saying, this is a change election,
00:29:28.360but it's a change election for different reasons to different people. Republicans think it's a
00:29:32.520change election because of the fires in California and the budget problems and because California is
00:29:37.700failing. And Democrats think it's a change election in California because of Donald Trump.
00:29:42.460They just hate Donald Trump. And they blame Donald Trump for every problem in the state, the high gas prices, the ice raids, the everything.
00:29:51.340So Democrats are running on who can be best at opposing Trump and Republicans are running on who has the better policies.
00:29:58.120And I think just given the way the state is set up, Democrats are likely to win and it's not going to lead to profound changes in California.
00:30:07.160I could be wrong. You could see Spencer Pratt break through as mayor. You could see one of the Republican candidates become the governor. Those are both long shots at this stage. But I do think that there are seeds of change and that once the Trump derangement syndrome fades away and once Democrats can't use Trump as an excuse for their own failures.
00:30:26.620And look, I'm not trying to be partisan here, but California is a one-party state.
00:30:30.040Everything that is going wrong does have to do with that fact.
00:30:33.560And once Democrats can't shield that realization by blaming Trump for everything, I do think
00:32:21.680of meetings and so forth but i'm really grateful for everything you guys are doing to keep scott's
00:32:25.680legacy alive and stay tuned for more updates on the book yes joel thank you so so much we love
00:32:31.280you so much thank you for coming on and you know anytime you can please do good luck with everything
00:32:38.080thank you bye guys i'm not guys bye joel i'll say bye guys oh my gosh oh man i love him you guys i
00:32:49.920i mean you know what i just love that that he just can just give us like this master class in
00:32:56.880just off the cuff and uh joel will be back with us again marcella don't you love him well yes but at
00:33:05.200the same time i want to like we're moving in the right direction we're progressing in the right
00:33:10.000direction and and i'm not the salisbury hill type of person that things that things will end badly
00:33:15.920you know that's just my own perspective but in regards to california my gosh um we don't learn
00:33:26.380we don't learn from our own mistakes but you know it's that tds the hoaxes are working
00:33:32.780everything's working people believe that trump is making things worse in california and and that
00:33:40.580goes far you know so it really is spectacular how they can just stay in that derangement
00:33:49.420i don't know it's like so marcella you have to you said you kind of lie low about your opinions
00:33:56.660there right so do you do you feel like well you have to too because of your job and everything but
00:34:01.620yeah oh hold on look who's not someone's knocking on the door but um i don't know marcella so you
00:34:10.080think is going to stay democrat well i'm hopeful for for the mayor race but um but you know the
00:34:20.360the unions really have a big big to do a lot of power which is some of the republicans that have
00:34:27.820won in the past have been uh trying to get the unions to support them and have uh arnold is one
00:34:36.440of them um he fought them off oh yeah arnold schwarzenegger but he fought them off and then
00:34:42.120he um yeah then he uh kind of gave in to them um it's hard to not give in to them because they
00:34:51.740they hold so much power also a voter harvesting i don't know if you have that in new jersey
00:34:57.380are you are you like i feel like this is our california jersey thing um i'm sure i can raise
00:35:05.640you some voter harvesting and give you some more hi owen hello yeah yeah no that that's why so
00:35:13.800okay so hi owen we just had a great time with joel um so speaking of the voter harvesting
00:35:20.540what does anyone know this is so off the cuff but i'm wondering um what about the save act
00:35:27.460are we anywhere with that i know that's not not yet that's still um allegedly ballot harvesting
00:35:36.260yeah being debated out there um in the senate and one of the things that was said is that um
00:35:44.500as you know i would have to go to my next story to cover this story but basically
00:35:49.700anybody that goes against trump pays the price um any republican that does and
00:35:57.140basically what they're saying in texas um is that the texas uh senate race can go
00:36:07.540the way trump wants it to go but unless he votes for the save act so we'll see what happens in that
00:36:15.060race um if he's able to sign up so there's republicans that aren't they have not um supported
00:36:22.820the save act how is soon like who is pulling his like what is it what like what dirt does he have
00:36:31.300like what is the the promise for this guy it is such a um i don't know owen hi owen do you
00:36:39.460have anything to add to our stories just running through the hallway and coming in
00:36:45.060Well, I mean, I do think it would be great if we could get the Save America Act passed, but it doesn't look likely to me.
00:36:51.280It does seem like we're getting a lot of pushback from Congress.
00:36:54.980I think I said maybe a few weeks ago about this that my suspicion is that there are a bunch of Senate Republicans that just don't want it for whatever reason.
00:37:05.760But, you know, I tend to think that just based on the behavior, it seemed like Thune was saying, oh, we can just put it up for a vote or whatever.
00:37:15.060but I think he was, he said at one point something like, I don't have, we don't have the votes.
00:37:20.620And so I wasn't really sure exactly what he was trying to do there. He might've just been
00:37:24.360kind of saying, well, we'll put it up for a vote, but it's going to fail. And then we'll just say
00:37:28.240we voted on it and people voted against it. But you know, my hope is they could get to the 50
00:37:34.280and that would potentially at least expose. And by 50, I mean, you know, not having to do the
00:37:40.500the filibuster or at least going through the talking filibuster yeah let's see let's see who
00:37:44.820these people are before midterms and then you know that would hopefully get everybody on record to
00:37:49.540say are you going to pass this or not and then we would at least find out do we have the votes or
00:37:54.900not and if we don't which ones are resisting election integrity essentially interesting and
00:38:02.900i i would imagine it might be that that's what's the the hold up is that they don't want to put
00:38:08.900everybody on record in terms of whether or not they're going to vote for this thing wow all right
00:38:13.540well you know like our our um country lies in the balance with this and it's shocking to me that
00:38:21.380like and nothing else should be getting done except for this and if they take one more freaking
00:38:26.260vacation and you know whatever it's just it's a joke it's a joke okay let me not get crazy
00:38:32.580they're on vacation now i believe they're always on vacation imagine if you had that much vacation
00:38:38.100vacation like they should have no vacation make it really unpleasant so you take a term limit
00:38:44.720because i don't know what it takes to get people out of this job people like look forward to
00:38:49.300retiring their entire life unless you work in the swamp which is supposed to be so terrible
00:38:53.720it's so terrible that you stay till you're 99 and you're dead so it's really bizarre to me but well
00:39:00.260i think part of it might be what scott has said in the past about how some people might be staying
00:39:04.260in just to protect themselves yeah you know they might be worried that they get thrown under the
00:39:08.740bus as soon as they leave or they get investigated or they'd end up in prison or whatever and so by
00:39:13.800staying in office they have more power and they have staff and they have the ability to negotiate
00:39:17.800with people and as we've seen people kind of scratch each other's backs and protect each other
00:39:22.940because they don't want themselves to be exposed but once you're out of congress you don't have
00:39:26.560that power anymore so you are all of a sudden much more vulnerable and i think that may be a big part
00:39:31.480of it. The other part, of course, is probably all the insider trading and other stuff that goes on
00:39:34.760there where you would lose access to all that information that you're making millions of dollars
00:39:38.920on like some people are. And I think that was one person, I forget the name, but I think I posted a
00:39:43.340story about it, about somebody who's being investigated now. Somebody, an ex, I think,
00:39:48.520posted a bunch of information about this person. And it was one of the worst instances of insider
00:39:54.360trading where there was a bunch of trades happening right after committee meetings that
00:39:58.680this person was part of where he knew that palantir might be getting a contract that day so
00:40:04.560the day before he puts in a big trade and he's claiming he has a blind trust but he doesn't
00:40:08.960according to the records and like so it's pretty blatant that he's even breaking the law as it's
00:40:14.620written because they did pass a law about insider trading that i don't think they really prohibited
00:40:20.000it completely but they did say okay you got to report it within a certain time and this person
00:40:23.820isn't doing that so he broke that part of it but also you're not supposed to do insider trading on
00:40:29.960things that you're part of a committee for like where you do have direct insider information
00:40:34.200and he's blatantly flaunting it so you're not supposed to do insider trading period well i mean
00:40:41.280yeah i think there's unfortunately relaxed rules for that within congress and um so certain things
00:40:49.540But again, certain things were passed. I think it might have been 10 or 15 years ago about this to say you have to follow these rules and he's not following those rules. So he should be able to be brought up on charges as far as I'm concerned. But, you know, regardless, we know it's happening and we know people are making millions of dollars from this.
00:41:07.140I think it has to go back to, so I would like to see, so if they're going to stay there for X amount of time, first of all, term limits for sure. Let, let, you know, new ideas come in other people. There's too much time to like make these clicks and deals that they stay there forever. But also you get the exact same benefits, rules and laws that you are passing for everybody else.
00:41:32.140you do not get better health care you like nothing you have to live by the laws you pass
00:41:37.440and i don't know i this is just like my fairness factor not that life is fair but it's just like0.99
00:41:44.980you can't pass laws for us that you don't live by it's just such bullshit um i'm really sick of it
00:41:51.120i'm really in terms of the save america act i am looking at an article from byron fisher and the0.94
00:41:56.340federalist that says there is an alternative way this could happen where i mean i don't think
00:42:00.560anyone's doing anything about this but he's proposing a way where there's something called
00:42:03.800the election assistance commission that was established back in 2002 and they apparently
00:42:08.860have the authority statutory authority to change the voter registration form without any congressional
00:42:13.940approval so that may be an alternate way they could explore to say if if trump appointed new
00:42:20.340people that were you know people that would require documentary proof of citizenship for
00:42:26.440voter registration, then he could potentially push through a lot of those same protections
00:42:31.080without Congress. So that may be something to look into is, I think it was the Help America
00:42:38.200Vote Act of 2002 that established it. And that lets Trump or the president appoint people
00:42:45.660with Senate confirmation. But as long as he can get people through, I think he would have to
00:42:51.400appoint Republicans and Democrats because there's a split there required, I think. But if he could
00:42:56.220find people on both sides that are willing to vote to require that proof of citizenship,
00:43:00.680then he could potentially put some of these protections in place in a different way.
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