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00:07:15.360What did you think about what you saw?
00:07:16.640I saw enough of it to know that Spencer Pratt definitely won this debate.
00:07:22.860And I think 88% of those respondents to a certain poll, they agreed with that.
00:07:28.200And I think that when you get the Democratic Party on stage with common sense people, you can call them Republicans if you want, but just anybody who has common sense, they just argue.
00:07:40.920And if they can spit facts about the damage that these Democratic Party politicians are going to affect on their cities, then I think that the track record speaks for itself.
00:07:52.720You don't even have to be the most polished rhetorician.
00:07:56.140You don't have to be Cicero to simply just lay out the track record of failure that the
00:08:19.440But common sense just does outshine these politicians.
00:08:24.320And so he was talking about an organization or something they made called Inside Safe.
00:08:29.740And the theory was if you bring people inside, they'll be safe.
00:08:33.540And I love how he goes inside safe, you know, means outside dangerous, you know, because they're not solving anything.
00:08:40.760So, you know, and he's right, Marcella, you know, giving people beds and trying to force them off the street is not going to solve this problem if they're addicts.
00:08:48.960So did you, you know, how did you feel about that clip?
00:17:31.720She's actually the Senate pro tempore, and she had been under investigation since the1.00
00:17:38.900Biden administration for running illegal cannabis or hemp distribution centers. And there are now0.85
00:17:46.180bribery implications for these centers that she was participating in. So the FBI raided one of
00:17:54.200those distribution centers and seized assets and actually arrested a handful. And she's been there
00:17:59.680a long time. Yeah, she's quite up in the age. I can't give you an exact age, but yeah, she's been
00:18:06.960there for a while. Let's see. We'll look at the clip and then the three of us will
00:18:09.960chitty chat about it. The four of us looking at you three. Hold on. One of the most powerful
00:18:14.920political figures in Virginia is under the FBI spotlight. Yeah. So this morning, federal
00:18:20.160investigators raided the office and business of Senate Finance Chair Louise Lucas. It happened
00:18:25.440in Portsmouth, which is where she's from. The FBI is not releasing much information tonight,
00:18:29.760but it all stems from allegations of corruption. Our Matthew Torres has the latest on the
00:18:34.700investigation tonight. Senator, is there anything you can say? Virginia Senator Luis Lucas driving
00:18:40.840off from the scene of an FBI raid in Portsmouth. Investigators seen searching her office and a
00:18:45.700cannabis dispensary she co-owns. The exact reason is still unclear other than it's part of a
00:18:50.960corruption investigation. Her colleague, State Republican Senator Bryce Reeves. Whether it's a
00:18:56.100Republican or a Democrat, to have something like this happen is not a good thing and it does not
00:19:03.880bode well for Virginia. A longtime friend and Virginia House Speaker Don Scott is among the
00:19:08.960Democratic leaders casting doubt on the investigation. In a statement, Scott says,
00:19:13.440I am deeply concerned by today's FBI raid, giving the politicization of this administration,
00:19:18.560an FBI led by Kash Patel and a Justice Department run by President Donald Trump's
00:19:22.540former personal attorney. I think people should take this with a grain of salt and allow the
00:19:26.880facts to come out before jumping to conclusions. I want to provide Virginians with more certainty
00:19:32.480and stability. Lucas has been in office since 1992. She's the Senate Finance Chair and a big
00:19:38.600critic of President Trump. Lucas was instrumental in helping push for redistricting in the Commonwealth0.53
00:19:43.440to dramatically favor Democrats. Her quick wit and sharp tongue expressed on camera and social
00:19:48.940media have also gained her even more attention. Because she holds the purse strings, she's the0.87
00:19:54.200most powerful, politically powerful ranking senator that we have. So this does not bode
00:20:02.140well. It's very concerning. Lucas was a major proponent in legalizing simple possession
00:20:07.300of marijuana in 2021. It's the same year she opened her cannabis business, which is now
00:20:12.340part of the FBI probe. Her store has been scrutinized over allegations of mislabeled
00:20:17.340products years ago. To note, Senator Lucas has not been charged with anything. Meanwhile,
00:20:21.700Democrat Virginia Attorney General Jay Jones is also weighing in, saying that he is questioning this investigation.
00:20:28.500We've also reached out to Governor Abigail Spanberger, who says that she is waiting for more details to become public before she provides a strong statement.
00:20:39.400Okay, so what you guys can't see, I thought Marcella was going to have a stroke and fall over behind that clip.0.75
00:20:47.700Oh, my God. Marcella is like, they're totally wrong.
00:20:52.080Dot is wrong. All right. Marcella, just go. Go ahead. Before you burst.
00:20:57.020This the federal federal law enforcement had opened this investigation under the Biden administration.
00:21:06.160So it was never a cash, Patel, FBI. It was under Biden that this was open.
00:21:13.300so for him to say oh you know the political association or whatever he said um no no you
00:21:21.180know she's being investigated because there's concern about some of the things that she's doing
00:21:26.860and she's in charge of all the finance and on top of that she does have a dispensary but you know0.99
00:21:32.720and i love how her dispensary is right next to her office that's so convenient there's a bakery next0.89
00:21:37.660to it that's i love that how they went to like murder fantasy attorney general jay jones for
00:21:42.600comment like okay here's the voice of reason and authority on this subject but like you were saying
00:21:48.420the politicization is the fbi failing to do due diligence and uh pursuing their leads if whenever
00:21:57.160they run into a democrat dead end you know and that's what the democrats have been doing hunter
00:22:01.120biden and then the biden family and the and the rest of you go on and on but the funny thing is
00:22:06.880they're saying Cash Patel is politicizing the FBI simply because he's pursuing investigations that
00:22:14.280the Democrats stopped pursuing for political reasons. I mean, you can't make this up. And
00:22:19.400the corruption right now is like so astounding. It's like we've taken the lid off of all of the
00:22:24.340corruption and we have a decentralized media landscape now. So now all of these things are
00:22:29.640going viral. The stuff in Ohio, did you see that? The Luke Rosiak stuff. Even in the California race,
00:22:34.920just wanted to point out, Xavier Becerra, who ran HHS, he is, I saw a very damning investigation
00:22:41.120with Steve Hilton unleashed it. And it was like Churla with the illegal aliens who are doing,0.98
00:22:46.120who are taxpayer funded, right? Taxpayer funded, like I think 93% of their, you know, revenue is
00:22:53.260like roots from taxpayers. And they are actively, they endorse Becerra for governor, and they are
00:23:01.040actively campaigning for him using taxpayer money and illegal aliens so i'm just like the entire
00:23:06.400landscape the somali fraud scandal maybe we'll talk about that but virginia is captured i mean
00:23:11.520it blows my mind where we're at right now we have this i mean this may sound like hyperbole i mean
00:23:16.720i'm a cold war buff so this isn't hyperbole to me like we have actual communists like garen bass
00:23:21.840uh we have katie wilson in seattle brandon johnson in chicago uh we have uh you know michelle
00:23:28.000Wu in Boston. We have Zoran Mamdani in New York City. These guys are, they say they're
00:23:33.640democratic socialists, but they're undemocratic socialists, okay? First of all, this is striking.
00:23:38.500And then the other thing is they've captured Virginia. We have a former CIA operative who's
00:23:43.800running the state. We have murder fantasy attorney general Jay Jones, who is presiding over the law
00:23:49.440enforcement in the state. Wait, Kyle, remind everyone about him, about Jones, what he did,
00:24:38.920And so Republicans, they disown the disgraceful politicians.
00:24:43.520I see it all the time where Republicans are, you know, they try to police their own.
00:24:49.460Democrats don't seem to police their own at all.
00:24:51.400So it's just to see this, you know, be there. They're not concerned. There's no media concern that she actually did this and maybe had bribery. You know, there's actually substance to the bribery accusations. Right. And so they're not like pressing like, you know, citizen journalists would or independent journalists would to like actually say, well, maybe if this is true, it's very concerning.
00:25:15.480i don't get any of that from these local news reports i don't know they have to like uh go to
00:25:21.760these so-called reputable sources like jay jones or whatever to try to get comment from him like
00:25:26.840he's going to give us an he's going to be an honest broker right what the situation is there
00:25:31.320uh it's just they play defense this way they try to use like use appeal to authority to try to or
00:25:38.720appeal to brand which is kind of like my original point most of these democrat voters like if if
00:25:44.560these mayors ran on like, I don't know, uh, the communist party ticket or whatever, they'd be
00:25:50.580like, what is this? You know, what are we voting for? I have no idea. But since it's under the
00:25:55.160democratic party, uh, uh, Trojan horse, so they just don't even see it. Virginia was fully a
00:26:03.060Trojan horse, especially with Spamberger flipping everything. Oh, and what do you, you know, um,
00:26:09.120can you stand these people anymore you know it's just it's so blatant and nothing ever happens so
00:26:16.040it is i mean the comment i made online when i saw this story was you know somebody needs to tell
00:26:21.800lucas that the preferred way to do crime in congress is insider trading that you can get
00:26:26.560away with that but you know if you do this bribery stuff you're you're really on shaky ground i don't
00:26:32.320know this cannabis outlet stuff you know you should stay away from that sort of thing but
00:26:36.080the insider trading i mean that's where you really make the big money for sure right and maybe it's
00:26:42.240a little less damaging for everybody else but i mean it is crafty to have the dispensary next
00:26:46.940door so i do like that because it's like you know when the landlord lives next to their tenants you
00:26:51.420can keep an eye on them so that's good and um yeah so we we have to follow that kyle you have to give
00:26:58.220us updates as you see it but oh my god the corruption in virginia is well everywhere but
00:27:03.680I find it very interesting that Virginia is the home of like the CIA with like Langley and there's Quantico. And so the Democrats capture the stage, which is like the heartbeat of of all of these massive federal agencies that are very powerful. And so, like, I do like what Cash Patel is doing. On the contrary, they accuse him of weaponizing them. Of course, he's getting rid of some partisan actors. That's true.
00:27:28.080But he's also sending a lot of FBI agents back to their branch offices to be boots on the ground with the investigations leading, which I think is very smart.
00:27:38.720But in my opinion, we need to do something about the way that D.C. – I would just like to see it sort of dissolved ultimately.
00:27:49.900I just think it's an antiquated political arrangement.
00:27:53.340It's not necessary. It's not a way it doesn't represent Americans the best way that it could if we had a better sort of design.
00:28:00.820There was a there was a rationale for it in the 18th century to have it have a location where they would all meet in person and discuss things.
00:28:08.140Now, with K Street and Quantico and Langley and all of these things in this sort of hub, it's just too much centralized power.
00:28:14.940And like, you know, if I have my I think if James Madison and Jefferson were here today, they would be, whoa, this is, you know, this is a problem.
00:28:23.340you know imagine this yeah yeah right yeah it you're so right i think about this all the time
00:28:29.820and why is everything in one cluster and why is there so much of it and what you're right like uh
00:28:36.540i forget what story it was but i do like that patel is putting people back in their districts
00:28:42.540like why are you all in one spot go go do stuff um all right so you guys that's amazing isn't it
00:28:49.740all right our next oh i love our next story somebody said the word somalia um so i cannot
00:28:58.540you guys you know there's a few people i cannot handle and the next one is our beloved ilhan omar
00:29:08.780okay so i'm getting a little excited because i feel like you remember the old saying we used to
00:29:14.380say the walls are closing in um and i do want to let you know that i purchased a leering center
00:29:22.220sweatshirt it's on its way okay so let's talk about what's going on with ilhan omar i'm going
00:29:27.740to play a clip of uh benny johnson speaking with jd vance first just to kind of summarize it and
00:29:34.220then we're going to go into another clip and then we'll chitty chat it out hang on talk about ilhan
00:29:39.100Omar and Tim Walz and obviously Ilhan Omar. The president and the White House have been out saying
00:29:44.340that she married her brother, that there is immigration fraud going on here. These are
00:29:49.420deportable denaturalization offenses. Can you give us an update on that? Yeah, so we actually think
00:29:55.220that Ilhan Omar definitely committed immigration fraud against the United States of America. And I
00:30:00.300talked to Stephen Miller about this actually recently. We're trying to look at what the
00:30:04.080remedies are. That's the thing that we're trying to figure out is what are the legal remedies now
00:30:08.020that we know that she's committed immigration fraud. How do you go after her? How do you
00:30:12.180investigate her? How do you actually do the thing? How do you build the case necessary to get some
00:30:16.420justice for the American people? There's a related issue, Benny, which is she has been at the center
00:30:23.140of a lot of the worst fraudsters in the Somalian community. So do I know that Ilyana Omar was aware1.00
00:30:29.300that the Quality Leering Center was defrauding the American people? I'm not certain of it,
00:30:34.000but we at least need to investigate it because if people can commit wrongdoing without even
00:30:39.280the fear that they're going to be found out, that's a fundamental problem. So I'm worried
00:30:44.640about the immigration fraud. I'm also worried about what did Ilion Omar know about what was
00:30:49.560happening in the Somali community and why was nobody looking into it until frankly, Donald
00:30:54.500Trump came along. Do we, all right, first of all, do you love how he calls her Ilion? Like,
00:31:00.660I just love how he adds it in. And I love how the quality leering center just rolled off his tongue
00:31:05.660like JD's so fricking hip and cool. I love that. Um, okay. So who wants to, does anyone want to
00:31:14.100like brush up and just like what you said, Kyle, like, or Owen, I think you said it, you know,
00:31:19.640no, we both did that. You could just have this fraud and broad daylight with no fear of getting
00:31:26.260caught or being in trouble is definitely concerning. And you know what, let me play this
00:31:32.100other clip because this will bring us up to date. Okay, guys, one more clip and then we're done with
00:31:36.540her. Ready? Oh, and I think you're going to have to hear her voice, I think. So I'm sorry. I'm0.97
00:31:41.860sorry ahead of time. Squad Democrat Ilhan Omar closing in on a deadline set by Minnesota
00:31:47.160Republicans to turn over documents about potential ties to a state fraud ring after she dodged a
00:31:53.000hearing last month. Our senior correspondent Mike Tobin is reporting live out of Chicago.
00:31:57.360He's got the latest details for us. Hey, Mike. And Sandra, that deadline is today for Minnesota
00:32:01.440Congresswoman Ilhan Omar to turn over documents and communication tied to defendants in that
00:32:06.460massive Feeding Our Futures scandal. The Minnesota House Committee on Fraud Prevention and State
00:32:11.380Agency Oversight is holding its last meeting of the legislative session today. However,
00:32:16.720the committee does not have enough votes to subpoena the congresswoman, so the committee
00:32:20.820doesn't have a legal mechanism to compel Omar to cooperate. The chair of the committee has sent
00:32:26.080Omar multiple invitations and requests for documents. Omar does not respond. Omar now
00:32:31.680sponsored the 2020 Meals Act, which removed the guardrails on COVID relief money and helped the
00:32:36.520fraud run up to $250 million. Despite that, the chair of the Fraud Prevention Committee does not
00:32:42.040anticipate the Minnesota congressman will respond by the deadline. It shows her continued disdain
00:32:49.100for the taxpayers. She feels like she's above having to answer for her involvement in the
00:32:55.940fraud and her responsibility as a member of Congress who, you know, she passed the bill
00:33:03.300that took the guardrails off the school nutrition program that led to the conditions that enabled1.00
00:33:08.580Feeding Our Future. Now, Amy Bach was convicted as the mastermind of the Feeding Our Future1.00
00:33:13.540scandal. Defendants billed the government for meals that were never provided through existing
00:33:17.940restaurants and sham companies. Now, in Bach's trial, Omar's name appeared in an email chain
00:33:23.320with Bach. Trial evidence showed text communication with Bach and Omar. Trial evidence also showed
00:33:29.100Bach exchanged emails with one of the defendants who fled the country. The title of that email
00:33:33.560chain was Ilhan's office. Now, back in January, our Alexis McAdams interviewed Amy Bach. She said
00:33:40.560she never spoke directly with Representative Omar, only people in her office, and the conversation
00:33:45.880She said, we're never substantive. Sandra, back to you. Got it.
00:33:51.280Oh, we didn't have to hear her voice. Oh, you're welcome. You're welcome. Okay. Extra points for
00:33:56.440me. All right. Oh, and I'm going to come to you first and just get your take on what's happening
00:34:01.040with, um, with our favorite Somalian. I mean, I would just say like this, everything that's going
00:34:06.420on in Minnesota seems like it's all connected. You know, we, you have, first of all, just how
00:34:11.380we end up with this massive somali community there and then second you know the ilan omar
00:34:17.460seems like some kind of creation that came out of that where she was sort of just like chosen
00:34:22.900somehow to become representative of that and then we now we see the result of it with all this
00:34:28.340massive fraud i don't think this was all just organic where all these individual people decided
00:34:33.700hey we're gonna do this fraud i'm sure it was at least shared between them like hey i'm doing this
00:34:39.460you know fake daycare and look at all the money i'm raking in and everybody copied them and
00:34:45.040it's very clear that the government was turning a blind eye to all this stuff
00:34:49.440and that they knew it was going on and they were doing nothing about it they were just letting it
00:34:54.640happen and tim walls and now now that some people are actually being put on trial for it they're
00:35:00.760giving him like slap on the wrist penalties like one of them just got out recently with no jail
00:35:05.480time another one had like hardly anything they're basically giving them the judicial system is also
00:35:13.000kind of just saying yeah no big deal you know we don't need to really give these people real
00:35:17.020sentences and so it seems like there's just no order no law and order in minnesota everybody
00:35:23.140from the executive branch to the legislators to the judicial branch everybody is just hey we're
00:35:29.580just going to let people steal a bunch of money and you know just let it all go on oh all right
00:35:34.480marcella i'm going to come to you next and then kyle will finish that up what vice president
00:35:41.340van said it worries me because if if her marriage was not genuine and um she's being accused of
00:35:51.380marrying a relative i guess a brother i suppose um and it was a sham marriage then she can face
00:35:58.340deportation and easily um and she could possibly face crime um punishment for it's a crime to have
00:36:06.820a sham marriage so i don't know to me that seems like they're taking the very uh like very they're
00:36:16.500taking this very differently because she she can't be touched i don't know i i could be wrong but
00:36:24.340she can easily be deported many people are um every day almost if there's a sham marriage0.90
00:36:30.660and i think they should be if that's the case there shouldn't be this two-tier justice system
00:36:35.060where you say oh you're a special case because you're in congress no you you should have the
00:36:39.000same penalties anybody else would have for a crime like that no one's above the law and let's not0.92
00:36:44.300forget that they're so disloyal to america like their first prior her first priority is somalia
00:36:50.260somalians um so i i mean i have an issue with her i have an issue with anybody who wants to wave
00:36:56.660another country's flag um try to turn our country into their country i have an issue with people0.96
00:37:03.780that were born in another country being a member of our politics to begin with um i just don't
00:37:10.260think that hey well i do you're not in politics i i i do maybe i will be well maybe i won't like it
00:37:18.260um i i just i want americans representing america i i haven't i just yeah i just don't feel like
00:37:26.420you know she's she talks so much about you know how terrible america is and you know how she's
00:37:34.020like these are my people you know she's talking to the somalian community if you go vote in
00:37:38.980minnesota they think they don't even speak english in a lot of these places like everyone's in the
00:37:43.860gear and like they don't speak english they don't want to talk to you and then remember waltz changed
00:37:49.140the flag to look very much like the somalian flag like the state flag it's like what the hell is
00:37:53.940going on um i'll start cursing i will so go ahead kyle well the democratic party has broken up
00:38:00.580america into a number of political fiefdoms and they even racially gerrymandered they set up urban
00:38:06.340party machines and i think uh in minnesota they even changed the flag like you're saying to
00:38:11.380resemble the somalian flag to show just how disloyal to the united states they are
00:38:15.860uh well ilhan omar i'm less concerned about the alleged marriage fraud than i am that her father
00:38:21.460was a colonel in somalia and she's not actually a refugee she was not fleeing persecution and
00:38:27.540therefore she might have lied about her reasons for being in the country she came here to be
00:38:32.340allegedly participate in this fraud that was in this community in minnesota and she passed this0.66
00:38:38.740meals program that kind of paved the way and helped clear the way for allegedly 250 million
00:38:45.060dollars in fraud or approximately that much and so of course attorney general keith ellison he's
00:38:50.420been nailed as you know associating with some of these sleazy business owners and the same can be
00:38:57.060said for ilhan omar and she it looks like she got kickbacks at some point to her campaign uh that
00:39:03.300That was like a derivative of this kind of money laundering machine that they have up
00:39:09.060And so the Democratic Party at this point, I think that they function a lot like a protection
00:39:15.140racket, like similar to a criminal enterprise.
00:39:18.580That's just systematically what the process looks like to me.
00:39:23.800And they are just siphoning off our federal taxpayers for illegitimate purposes to get0.92
00:39:29.960these little political strongholds and to turn them into mini Somalias, as some people have
00:39:35.300coined it. Oh, yeah. So Ilhan Omar, they protected her. They protected her with this committee vote.0.59
00:39:41.600I mean, three of the members refused to go along with the subpoena just to look to see if there's
00:39:47.440any there there. And that was after Ilhan Omar refused to comply. She's like a made person in
00:39:54.160sort of democratic party there and uh so now there's uh questions about whether or not she'll
00:40:00.960be expelled in the house of representatives they're actually looking at that i hate repeating
00:40:05.680news about them looking at stuff because if they were serious they'd actually do that and then you
00:40:10.000know well before after they do fauci like fauci first because you know we have a deadline uh you
00:40:15.680know five days five days that auto pen pardon that he supposedly uh you know uh received from uh you
00:40:22.640You know, someone in, you know, performing duties in Biden's name unconstitutionally, at least you could argue that maybe and see if it holds up in law, a court of law.
00:40:32.840But, you know, Ilhan Omar is just a poster child.0.88
00:40:35.760And, you know, maybe we shouldn't want to expel her, you know, keep her around as the, you know, as the poster child of all this Democrat corruption, because every time she opens her mouth, she makes voters screen crawl outside of, of course.
00:40:47.960Well, I'll just I'll take it a controversial step further.1.00
00:40:51.460and let's not forget her husband's winery and the you know 30 million dollar oops mistake on her0.85
00:40:57.940her returns you know okay and she's a muslim right why is she well i don't don't lead me
00:41:03.600down the path kyle that's just where i'm going i mean i don't know just asking questions this is
00:41:08.160why she's here okay this like i'll say it this is why she's here islam has a plan okay and i'm not
00:41:16.200giving you, I told you guys, I'm not giving you my pre-qualifier of not all. There's a plan.
00:41:22.020She's here. She's part of it. You see what's happening to Minnesota. You see what's happening
00:41:27.220all over this country. And they're just waiting us out and growing and growing and growing. So
00:41:33.320don't be afraid to talk about it. This is serious. This is do or die. So I want to believe that
00:41:41.080this administration knows what's happening and they know why she has to go. And if they need
00:41:48.880to dance around it and say it's because she lied to come here and married her brother0.98
00:41:53.220and she's a fraud, fine. But you still have another problem of almost 5% of this country
00:42:01.720now that's going to need to follow and get the hell out of here too. So we have an Islam problem1.00
00:42:06.960and um she is made and she was put here so that's all i'm going to say about that for now um0.98
00:42:14.400just say just add the magnitude of what's going on in minnesota the fraud is literally more than
00:42:20.660the gdp of somalia yes so all the money they're stealing it's like double their gdp so they
00:42:27.000clearly have a lot of motivation to keep this going because it's essentially like the majority
00:42:32.400their economy at this point oh my god chunks that's great chunks just said in the chat she
00:42:38.400really needs to prove she loves her brother you know like all right prove prove to us that was a
00:42:43.760real marriage um okay so uh i'm gonna move on from her but i like i will never literally move on from
00:42:52.560her because i just she is the head of the snake um remember the snake story trump used to tell
00:42:58.960us to go to sleep at night okay so let's move on my last clip and um oh and i'll let you lead this
00:43:07.860one this is brett bear on fox news okay so this we're talking about redistricting um and just
00:43:16.040lord here just here's the clip here we go democrats are decrying the supreme court ruling today
00:43:21.680against a black majority district in louisiana that rolls back a key provision of the voting
00:43:27.360Rights Act. We get details tonight from Fox News chief legal correspondent, anchor of Fox News
00:43:31.940Sunday, Shannon Breen. Certainly the precedent of this decision will impact other states.
00:43:38.980As redistricting fights across the country aim to reshape the midterm playing field,
00:43:43.760the Supreme Court has issued a decision that could send states scrambling to redraw maps
00:43:48.560in a move seen favorable to Republicans and one that has the potential to impact somewhere in
00:43:53.880in the neighborhood of roughly 20 current congressional districts.
00:43:56.980Would you consider it a win for a win for a Republican?
00:44:00.280The 6-3 opinion finds Louisiana erred in drawing a second predominantly black district,
00:44:05.880which it had done in response to earlier litigation challenging its map at the time.
00:44:11.080Justice Alito writing for the majority, quote,
00:44:14.080no compelling interest justified the state's use of race in creating SB-8.
00:44:19.280that map is an unconstitutional gerrymander, and its use would violate the plaintiff's
00:44:24.240constitutional rights. Justice Thomas authored a concurring opinion joined by Justice Gorsuch
00:44:29.880going beyond the majority's ruling, quote, I would go further and hold that Section 2
00:44:35.280of the Voting Rights Act does not regulate districting at all. The dissenters, Justices
00:44:41.300Kagan, Sotomayor, and Jackson, warn they fear Section 2 is essentially, quote, a dead letter
00:44:46.960following today's decision. The consequences are likely to be far-reaching and grave. If other
00:44:53.540states follow Louisiana's lead, the minority citizens residing there will no longer have an
00:44:59.120equal opportunity to elect candidates of their choice. I think what the Supreme Court is saying
00:45:04.800is it doesn't matter what communities are actively harmed so long as you can't prove intent. It's
00:45:13.900unclear whether some legislatures will now be able, if they want, to redraw their maps in time
00:45:19.620to affect the midterms, since primary voting has already started in many states. Also today,
00:45:25.460the court issued a unanimous decision in favor of a group of pregnancy centers in New Jersey.
00:45:30.940They have been fighting a subpoena from the state attorney general seeking the names, phone numbers,
00:45:35.940addresses, and even places of employment from some of their donors. The justices found those
00:45:41.680demands created a burden on the right to associate under the First Amendment. Brett? Let's go Jersey.
00:45:48.940Okay, Owen, I'm just going to come to you first. Yeah, well, I mean, certainly it was a huge
00:45:53.960decision and the right decision. And I think it isn't consistent with saying you can't have a
00:45:59.320racist district. So to me, it was kind of a clear decision and it should have been 9-0,
00:46:05.140but of course it wasn't. And this was actually the story I posted that this was part of was
00:46:10.660a little bit more broad about it was really about the democrats wanting to pack the supreme court
00:46:16.680because they just want to have their way and they want to politicize everything and of course they're
00:46:22.120complaining the exact opposite that oh it's being politicized and the court is being political when
00:46:27.140they're doing this and they're just trying to help republicans so of course they always accuse
00:46:30.440their opposition of doing what they're doing um but the other detail that wasn't really talked
00:46:35.680about in the clip was that they you know the the dissent on this was delayed like over 30 days and
00:46:42.560there was no reason it had to be delayed that way and i think there's a lot of speculation or
00:46:47.200you know opinions and i think there there are you know people even in the supreme court that say
00:46:51.620you know you're just doing this to try and prevent people from having time to
00:46:57.140have this affect midterms it was a completely political decision to say i'm just going to sit
00:47:02.300on my dissent so that we can't issue the full opinion so that people can't make the changes as
00:47:08.180a result of it and um you know that i think they were somewhat unsuccessful that some states have
00:47:15.960said you know we're going to delay our primaries because we need to potentially redistrict and
00:47:20.500they're calling special sessions i think alabama and tennessee and a couple other places are looking
00:47:24.760at doing that florida has already i think redistricted so like there there are a lot of
00:47:29.820um republican states where they have the power to act on this um to that they are making these
00:47:35.800changes in time for the midterms or at least they're trying to um but i think it was just
00:47:40.260a blatantly political thing by um the the liberal justices to say oh we're just gonna you know try
00:47:47.400and delay this and do everything we can to basically be a political activist it's very
00:47:52.080clear that jackson especially is just a political activist i mean your opinions were just blatantly
00:47:58.020insulting other supreme court justices and it's not showing any kind of restraint or or impartiality
00:48:05.700it's damaging the reputation of the supreme court because you know if any justice is saying these
00:48:11.320political things basically it just makes it look more political whereas what they should be doing
00:48:17.360is trying to protect the reputation and improve the reputation of the supreme court as being
00:48:21.700impartial and being based on the law not just based on a political opinion um but the democrats
00:48:27.380are doing everything they can to try and just say we got to pack the supreme court and it's going to
00:48:31.540start looking like congress after a while i think that i think the other justices are really getting
00:48:36.660sick of jackson and i i kind of wonder if something amazing will happen like they're gonna
00:48:43.300like they're gonna say something like she needs to be removed because they've they've already had
00:48:47.780it with her but all right marcella you are our legal expert um i'm sad i'm sad about what goes
00:48:55.380on with our supreme court justices and with judges all over this country um what what's
00:49:03.300your take on what you're seeing with the redistricting um the decision followed the law
00:49:09.860you know so i i don't know what the dissent uh the dissent um was what the dissent was but in reality
00:49:17.940um racial gerrymandering is still allowed unless only if there's it's narrowly justified under
00:49:25.920strict scrutiny the first image you showed of justice alito he indicated that this particular
00:49:32.540district that they created did not have a reason to be created based on race they didn't give a
00:49:40.840reason at all. So technically, if you don't have a compelling interest, then it's not
00:49:48.920constitutional. That's very clear. We learned this in the first year of law school. I don't
00:49:57.260know why Kagan, Sotomayor and Jackson play games with the timing of their dissent.
00:50:05.980you don't know you really don't know well i do know but i'm this is how i'm saying it i'm sorry
00:50:12.960good um thank you um so i i don't know why they play these games with the law um because they
00:50:25.420themselves know this they know that it has to have a compelling interest um you know
00:50:32.900they're playing politics like you said Owen so the the delay in their dissent is also political
00:50:41.180and unfortunately they can't be removed you know and nobody can remove them so unless there is
00:50:49.880you know obvious crimes they've caused or something like that but just based on a decision
00:50:56.920can't be done even if they're playing politics like that I mean they're
00:51:01.140Yeah, because they do it in a way where they have an excuse. We see it as them playing politics, but they're obviously not going to put it in a text. Oh, we're playing politics, Kintaji. Oh, yeah, we're playing politics too. It's like they're not going to make it. They use the system in order to do what they need to do.
00:51:27.820That's sad. All right, Kyle, let us know what you think.
00:51:30.140So I think it's pretty sad when the Supreme Court is blatantly committing election interference. If it turns out that these justices didn't have a justifiable reason to slow roll their dissents, I think it undercuts the legitimacy of their dissent because you have six justices who believe this is completely clear case and struck it down.
00:51:53.440And then you have the three partisan justices making sort of spurious arguments that don't really cut to the heart of the case.
00:52:04.060And so it's pretty sad. At the same time, the Democratic Party that nominated these justices, they're saying they want to pack the court.
00:52:12.660And there's no reason to pack the court unless you just want to add more ideologues.
00:52:16.780It's not like they think it will improve the law and the interpretation of it.
00:52:22.100But I think just to get to the more overtly political implications of this, I find it kind of amusing that the Democratic Party, they are shocked and appalled that the Republican Party would ever return fire after they have been gerrymandering states for any reason that they could find for decades.
00:52:43.120In New England, they have 27 seats to zero Republicans, and there's 40% Republican voters
00:52:49.360there, so no representation. Virginia, they seem to have an extremely flawed election to get this
00:52:56.540map put in place. And then the Supreme Court, there's probably a very good chance that they
00:53:01.020ultimately say no, they uphold that and say, no, this is not a legitimate map.
00:53:07.660And after all of this is said and done, even with the slow rolling of of this dissent, it looks like there will be about 14 Republicans to like six Democrats in the sort of redistricting, you know, gains, net gains in this at this plays out.
00:53:23.980And then in the next election, it could go as high as like 18, 18 seats for the Republicans versus six for the Democrats.
00:53:29.920Again, putting Virginia aside for now, we don't know what's going to happen there.
00:53:33.480And, you know, if it was probably going to be upheld, then it would be a bit of a different picture. But I think like the Democrats just must be very shocked. And we saw like the, you know, the Democrats sign Benny Thompson claiming this is the, you know, the second coming of the Civil War, you know, and it is for them because, you know, politics is a proxy for war.
00:53:54.960And the Democrats understood this a long time ago, like decades ago.
00:54:00.000And so now we're all like, you know, we shouldn't be stunned when progressives do this on the