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00:03:21.780 So we have so many fun things in store for you.

00:03:26.000 The first thing I wanted to do is we're going to talk about China first because we have

00:03:32.400 expert of all experts here in jack but i so let's look at this wait this is my kindergarten

00:03:40.080 graduation picture in my right my little yellow dress with my yellow patent leather shoes i'll

00:03:48.240 have you know and look i'm shaking hands with china we have israel behind me there's france

00:03:54.000 in between us we were very united nation-y over there at uh kindergarten so yay team

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00:04:24.000 Uh, wait, I better sip. I feel like that. That was some kind of call to action. Um,

00:04:29.820 Kaiser would be like, like start to like go now. Oh, okay. I'm going to go now while you talk. So,

00:04:34.960 all right. So, oh my gosh, we have so many questions, but I'm going to just let you riff

00:04:39.980 on China up to now. And then, um, I told you the clip I do want to play. Um, so let me know when

00:04:46.300 to cue that. Okay. Yeah, no. Um, I mean, I think from a high level, I guess, and, and, and Joshua,

00:04:53.260 i'm sure you have your takes as well i i think this and you know this was persuasion theater

00:04:59.980 on both sides this was persuasion warfare from the united states from china and you saw two

00:05:07.340 master persuaders in action and i think that xi jinping gets um a little bit you know a little 0.94

00:05:15.700 bit underestimated and just the ccp in general at how good and how strong their persuasion skills

00:05:21.880 are and have always been. And you saw that on full display with the use of the children, 0.99

00:05:30.280 the use of the fanfare, the military, the pageantry, you know, all of the shaking the

00:05:37.280 hands going up and down the line. I mean, this is all persuasion. And in fact, the use of young

00:05:44.260 children in Chinese communist propaganda is something that goes back to the days of Chairman

00:05:50.520 Mao himself. This is, or by the way, the red guards in China, which, you know, was in the exact

00:05:57.600 same spot. That's Tiananmen Square. Just so everybody knows, that is Tiananmen Square that

00:06:01.960 they're standing in. And for all those images that went hyper viral, that this is the spot where

00:06:07.920 Chairman Mao, after he became the paramount leader of China, that he would go again with

00:06:13.640 the children. But in this case, it was the use of the children as the, you know, the young pioneers

00:06:18.820 to go out and assault their parents and teachers and all the rest.

00:06:23.620 But the point is, with the little red books and all the rest,

00:06:26.540 and we know the story there, but Joshua and I literally wrote a book about it.

00:06:29.740 And I just mean to make the point that the use of children

00:06:33.820 is very, very textbook for the Chinese Communist Party.

00:06:38.500 There's no question.

00:06:39.680 And in this case, sure, they were using it to be positive,

00:06:41.940 but then what did they do immediately after they closed the door

00:06:45.460 is they played the switch.

00:06:48.820 And now suddenly it's we need to, you know, the linguistic switch of the Thucydides trap, talking about the rising power and the falling power, talking about how you are the power that is fading.

00:07:03.240 We are the power that is rising.

00:07:05.220 And, of course, Trump had to sort of respond to that.

00:07:08.180 And we saw the truth social going back and forth, which I think a lot of people kind of missed in real time what Xi Jinping was doing when he brought up the Thucydides trap.

00:07:17.420 people are saying what's this you know he's referencing the peloponnesian wars from 2500

00:07:21.100 years ago what does that have to do with anything but the use of history the use of a western history

00:07:27.180 reference that's something that actually passed over i think a lot of the talking heads out there

00:07:32.220 on cable media but it was an understanding that hey i know your history better than you do this

00:07:37.820 is referencing athens and sparta and a war that they had so many years ago and and and recently

00:07:44.140 this this book that uh graham allison had written about you know with kissinger had written about

00:07:48.620 the us and china and you you see all this um you know the use of very aggressive language on taiwan

00:07:55.660 and of course we can talk about that later and and then on the flip side you see president trump

00:08:00.620 coming in and he's in full negotiation mode and and this is something that we know scott

00:08:06.060 would be talking about where he's he's he's buttering him up he's bringing of course the

00:08:11.580 power play right the power play of bringing elon musk and jensen huang and the ceo of apple and the

00:08:17.100 ceo of of meta dina powell mccormick so you know the huge power play of bringing all the ceos with

00:08:25.020 them but notice how she responded to the power play he sent them out of the room because if you

00:08:31.260 were watching when they were in that great hall of the people the minute they closed the doors

00:08:35.260 uh and everyone's sort of sitting there going you know what's going to happen is it and they

00:08:38.940 went long it was supposed to be about an hour it was two hours but 20 minutes in the doors open

00:08:43.820 and who comes out it's all the ceos being sent out of the room so that's xi jinping saying hey

00:08:49.900 very nice but the merchants get him out of here this is about power so he responded to the power

00:08:55.980 play with his own power play this is a one-on-one meeting and those guys are not part of the one-on-one

00:09:02.860 And so you're seeing this visual persuasion. You're seeing the labels that stick, beautiful, historic.

00:09:10.060 You know, he referred to to the Biden meetings as low energy.

00:09:15.040 You know, I really do think that you saw master strokes of persuasion on both sides here.

00:09:20.660 And how will that shake out geopolitically? You know, I think still kind of remains to be seen.

00:09:25.700 But, you know, huge stakes here, not just for the U.S. relationship, but Taiwan, straight

00:09:31.100 to Hormuz, Iran, all these things coming to bear.

00:09:35.020 And it was just, I mean, we could go through it for hours, the levels of persuasion that

00:09:40.360 we saw on full display here.

00:09:41.660 It's such a good point.

00:09:42.720 I mean, they are both masters of persuasion.

00:09:46.560 You know, they just, they seem to mirror each other and they both know that.

00:09:52.920 And so everything that you hear coming out of China, like even, you know, things that President Trump's saying or that the, you know, anyone in that group is saying, you're just like, ah, like, I don't know.

00:10:04.080 I don't know who that's meant for for real.

00:10:07.800 And also, I was going to say, do you do you, Joshua, think that do you do you think any part of the negotiations that they're thinking, well, Trump's out of here in two years anyway, so how serious do I need to take this?

00:10:21.300 something that we want to all keep in mind is that china for a number of decades now has been

00:10:28.160 officially following effectively a 100 year plan and i i hesitate to call this an advantage 0.58

00:10:35.920 of a one-party authoritarian totalitarian communist party state joshua you're gonna get in trouble

00:10:41.700 again in in a in a low intensity conflict between great powers when the ceo of one country

00:10:49.280 effectively is potentially able to change every 48 years meanwhile there remains the incumbent

00:10:55.580 party with power you are correct all they have to do is sort of wait out the competition here

00:11:02.460 of course having a successor like 48 being potentially uh jd vance as very very much

00:11:10.420 an economic populist uh in the same vein of the nationalist donald trump that's a very good thing

00:11:16.460 from the american perspective that would be not so much from the from the chinese perspective

00:11:20.740 so it very well could be that they're unsure if it makes better sense from the chinese perspective

00:11:26.400 to attempt to create additional deal making opportunities now or kind of prolong it a little

00:11:33.020 bit there does seem to be telegraphing from president trump that there are going to be

00:11:38.340 following this summit ongoing conversation between the two countries um specifically because we saw

00:11:44.800 on Sean Hannity, the first interview that President Trump gave, he made a number of

00:11:49.460 nods that I think irked a lot of people with regard to allowing Chinese students to come

00:11:55.920 to the United States and study other universities, starting businesses here, even buying farmland,

00:12:01.480 which my first thought was, oh, he's not saying that to Sean Hannity. He's not speaking to

00:12:08.860 the United States. He's talking to China, who's paying attention right now amid these

00:12:14.680 conversations i have that clip actually i was in china he was still in china while he was making

00:12:19.920 that statement now i'm gonna play the clip but i'm gonna tell you beforehand that i am taking

00:12:25.660 the opposite position on this i know like listen instinctively intuitively i know that the thought

00:12:33.040 is to be like well he's he's talking to chi not to us i get that in negotiations like we know we've

00:12:37.820 seen this for years, but you know, this was brought up to him so long ago before any of this

00:12:44.640 was going on here in America. And I mean, he didn't even talk about like a drawback of the

00:12:51.040 students or anything. So let's, well, let's play the clip so everyone can get caught up to speed.

00:12:55.500 And, um, I'm going to cut the clip off at like, uh, let me just see. Cause I, it was a longer

00:13:02.400 clip, uh, three minutes. Okay. So this is a three minute clip. I just want to give, um, everyone

00:13:07.100 listening the background. I would assume I'm in Beijing if I wanted to buy property near one of

00:13:15.320 their military installations. I don't think President Xi. It's not that I love it. You want

00:13:22.000 to see farm prices drop. You want to see farmers lose a lot of money. Just take that out of the

00:13:26.440 market. But they've had a lot of land for a long time. Obama did nothing about it. They bought a

00:13:35.160 lot of it during the Obama administration. He did nothing about it. As far as the students,

00:13:41.920 it's 500,000 students that come, good students. I could tell them I don't want any students

00:13:51.200 is a very insulting thing to say to a country. They would then immediately go out and start

00:13:58.040 building universities all over China. But if you don't have those students, good students,

00:14:02.820 by the way. And we do another thing. If they're good and they want to stay in America, we won't

00:14:08.360 give them a green card and things like that. And not only them, but other countries. But if you

00:14:16.020 want to see a university system die, take a half a million people out of it. And the ones that

00:14:22.460 won't be hurt are the top schools. The top schools will do fine. But your lower schools,

00:14:27.140 your lower, the ones that don't do quite as well, those two, they'll be dying all over the place. 1.00

00:14:34.500 I frankly think that it's good that people come from other countries and they learn our culture 1.00

00:14:39.820 and many of them want to stay here. I think it's good. Not everybody agrees with me.

00:14:45.800 And it doesn't sound like a very conservative position. And I'm as conservative, I'm a

00:14:50.500 conservative guy. I'm really a common sense guy, I think, more than a conservative guy. I think

00:14:55.600 MAGA is common sense. You know, people understand we want strong borders, we want strong military,

00:15:01.580 we want good education, we want low interest rates, you know, we want, but I think people

00:15:06.340 would argue they worry about do they have nefarious intentions. Sure, I know, and we worry about that.

00:15:10.620 And honestly, you know, they do things to us and we do things to them. It's a very, very fine line,

00:15:19.860 the whole thing with students so they have 500,000 students and our university system does

00:15:29.480 great you know it does great you want to screw it up take a half a million students out and you're

00:15:37.000 gonna you're gonna see bankruptcies at the lower end of good colleges but they're not known or

00:15:42.000 whatever you're gonna have a lot of problems so it's something I'm always looking at but

00:15:47.660 it's a very insulting thing

00:15:50.200 to tell a country, we don't want 1.00

00:15:52.260 your people in our schools. 1.00

00:15:54.480 I mean, it really is. Now, I'll have

00:15:56.200 people say, oh, that's a terrible thing, you know.

00:15:58.740 It is a very

00:16:00.020 insulting thing.

00:16:02.680 And

00:16:03.120 it's very interesting. It's something

00:16:05.960 that didn't come up today. It came up last time.

00:16:08.300 It came up last time.

00:16:09.900 But I will tell you that school systems

00:16:11.880 don't want that to happen because

00:16:13.460 you won't have much of a school system.

00:16:15.900 All right, Mr.

00:16:17.660 All right. So Jack, I know you have a take on this right away. You're holding your chin,

00:16:23.120 like just go ahead. Actually, funny enough, I was doing that on purpose. No, so the thing to look

00:16:32.420 at here is the fact, keep in mind, just put yourself in context to this interview. He's

00:16:39.440 just spent two hours sitting down face-to-face with Xi Jinping. They've gone through a number

00:16:45.060 of policy lines. And in fact, the president was just on Air Force One. I haven't had a chance to

00:16:51.000 get through all of it, but he was making some of the references to things that they talked about.

00:16:54.900 They did talk about cyber security and cyber attacks. They did talk about spying. They talked

00:17:01.600 about Jimmy Lai, the publisher of Apple Daily that China has thrown as a political prisoner

00:17:06.460 thrown in prison. And one of the, obviously they talked about Taiwan. We know that from the Chinese

00:17:11.940 side. They talked about the straightforward moves. There's no question. They talked about Iran having 0.51

00:17:15.020 a nuclear weapon. But one thing I thought was interesting was that he's selling, right? He's

00:17:22.680 selling in that clip. So he's, he's selling, he's using persuasion. He's saying, well, would you

00:17:27.300 want to see colleges go out of business? Would you want to see this? He's, he's using his persuasion

00:17:32.880 ability, uh, through the audience back on China, but also to the American people when he's talking

00:17:37.820 about the importance of keeping these schools open and having american jobs and it strikes me that

00:17:43.580 the reason he's doing that is because this may be one of the things that xi jinping really pressed

00:17:49.740 him on and said hey we really need this and if you want to get our help or get our our leverage on um

00:17:59.420 on iran or a number of these other places one of the things that xi jinping really came in on

00:18:05.260 impressed him on must have been the chinese students and that strikes me as very interesting

00:18:10.460 because it almost seems like they get more out of like think about why why would that be such

00:18:18.060 a priority to them as well as the farmland that china is getting more out of the chinese students

00:18:24.300 in america and the farmland in america than they are on straight to hormuz that they are on taiwan

00:18:30.780 that they are on a variety of these other things. And it goes to show what a priority that is for

00:18:38.640 Xi Jinping to be the point where Trump seems to be wanting to go along with it, wants to show that

00:18:44.940 he's willing to work with him on his top line items, because he's looking for assistance in

00:18:49.860 other areas as well. So that struck me as very interesting. And this is something that I know,

00:18:56.260 I don't talk about it a lot, but I spent some time at the University of Pennsylvania

00:18:59.420 and worked in one of their China offices

00:19:02.600 and actually helped, you know,

00:19:06.280 working on these programs for educational exchange

00:19:08.880 between U.S. students and Chinese students.

00:19:11.380 And you would constantly see,

00:19:13.380 and you're not to get any specifics,

00:19:14.920 but you would always see that the Chinese students

00:19:17.500 that came over would be the sons

00:19:19.260 and just almost to a point,

00:19:21.480 the sons and daughters of the leadership,

00:19:24.040 the sons and daughters of CCP elites.

00:19:26.740 I think Jiang Zemin's grandson had studied it

00:19:29.080 at wharton at one point uh we know that xi jinping's daughter i believe was studying at harvard

00:19:34.360 under a false name and she's gone on to be public about that so what when you hear the students you

00:19:41.000 have to remember that this isn't just just like random chinese students these are the sons and

00:19:46.120 daughters of the connected political elite in china all right so this is a weird question for

00:19:52.600 you joshua but personally how do you feel about that i the the word that uh i latched on to that

00:20:01.160 that president trump used in that interview was he was speaking about how insulting it would be to

00:20:06.360 say oh we don't want your your students east asian cultures unlike western cultures tend to be more

00:20:13.240 social shame based whereas western cultures were like individual guilt based and it just just 0.97

00:20:20.600 contrast the religion, those that venerate ancestors versus those that venerate the saints

00:20:25.560 and so forth. And so when you are, I think President Trump was specifically acknowledging

00:20:31.700 the context, and it was a way of indirectly honoring his host, which is key in a negotiation.

00:20:40.680 One of the comments here that we see on Rumble from a locals individual said something to the

00:20:46.420 effect of, I always prefer to insult on a national platform that people I'm negotiating with. That

00:20:51.620 always works out well for me. Something else that I did during the clip as I pulled up, Jack's going

00:20:57.720 to laugh, I pulled up Stephen Miller's timeline and I just searched China, Chinese, Chinese

00:21:03.960 businesses. And the guy has been going off for six years about Chinese communists, this, that,

00:21:09.600 and the other from the universities to business. He's saying straight up, we're, our country's

00:21:15.080 being infiltrated by hundreds of Chinese communist spies.

00:21:19.200 President Trump is fully aware of the real situation.

00:21:23.780 But another criticism that Stephen Miller levied

00:21:28.000 was specifically during the Biden administration

00:21:30.040 towards Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken.

00:21:33.740 And this is what I appreciate

00:21:36.300 about the Trump and Vance administration,

00:21:38.200 is that these are professional negotiators

00:21:41.040 that contain competent American nationalist populist,

00:21:44.920 meaning they have our people's best interest in mind, lawyers and entrepreneurs, both of whom

00:21:51.200 are professional negotiators who understand how to play the game. The trouble with the left-wing

00:21:57.540 worldview is they tend to lack the talent stack of negotiation. And if anyone has ever tried to

00:22:06.020 argue with the liberal on anything or try to create any kind of compromise, they sort of have 0.55

00:22:10.140 one of two states of negotiation, if they feel any kind of white guilt with their negotiation

00:22:19.780 partner, it's how many concessions can I grant you? And that was, according to Stephen Miller,

00:22:27.200 the stance of the Biden administration, Secretary Blinken specifically, it's how much can we grant

00:22:32.900 you or give away to you or make easy for you to do, and not just the Biden administration with

00:22:38.260 the Democratic Party writ large is a perpetual concession-seeking from us surrendering

00:22:45.200 opportunities, land, status, and so forth to communist China. And I do think there is,

00:22:52.520 unfortunately, a white guilt basis to this. If anyone has ever negotiated with any type of

00:22:58.460 a liberal, and you've seen that dynamic before, of an interracial negotiation,

00:23:03.040 you will see that 100% of the time. That's also, in my opinion, why we just had the breaking story

00:23:09.540 from Maine about millions of dollars of fraud. Vice President Vance talked about that. All the

00:23:15.400 antics in Ohio and Columbus, my capital city. Of course, Minneapolis, also Los Angeles, Los

00:23:21.020 Angeles County, and so far part of California. There are these immense fraud rings that have

00:23:28.100 been allowed to persist. And I believe one of the reasons why they've not been investigated by the

00:23:34.200 Democratic Party, let's say, that rules those areas that otherwise could is because of the 0.54

00:23:40.800 white guilt aspect of it, because the perpetrators are not white. The other part of the other sort 0.62

00:23:47.280 of strategy of negotiation with liberals that you might have observed is something like if they're

00:23:53.840 dealing with a conservative or person they see as like an equal in some way, then they will

00:23:59.100 effectively say, I should get everything I want. You should get nothing you want. And that's fair.

00:24:05.860 So in both situations, they have, I get everything or I get nothing to appease my Western American

00:24:13.580 guilt complex because America is terrible. The real founding was 1619, you know, and just go

00:24:18.460 off on that direction. And we have to still make reparations for Christopher Columbus and all that

00:24:22.980 stuff. Excuse me, Indigenous Peoples Day. They've got to work that in there right along with their

00:24:26.820 pronouns. Joshua, but should we really refer to it as Indigenous Peoples, or is there perhaps

00:24:32.320 another term that would be more apropos? Columbus Day? No, yes. So when you study

00:24:39.500 where the so-called native and indigenous people of the Americas are from, look at their

00:24:44.880 haplogroup. Look at their area of origin. They're actually Siberians. So the better

00:24:50.140 understanding of them is to refer to the so-called native indigenous americans the accurate term is

00:24:56.140 siberian americans as they are directly descended from those bearing land street let's let's not

00:25:01.100 let's not have ancestral erasure guys calling them indigenous is is an erasure of their ancestry

00:25:07.340 just because beringia is underneath the arctic ocean doesn't mean that it was not a real place

00:25:17.260 well okay it's too much for me this is a running like kind of a running clearly um yeah and and

00:25:26.220 also i just want to remind you guys suicidal empathy gad sad will be here next thursday so

00:25:31.980 we'll talk about white guilt um and how useless it really is and the trouble it can get you into

00:25:38.220 So, Joshua, all that being said, in 30 seconds, how do you personally, emotionally feel about it?

00:25:48.060 Like, the issue of having 500,000 Chinese students taking the places of potentially American students?

00:25:59.940 Another thought that I have with that is there is this – there's a separate project I'm working on right now which has to do with the symbology of numbers.

00:26:08.220 and particularly in the Old Testament in the Bible,

00:26:11.720 is that what it pertains to,

00:26:12.720 and in these Near Eastern, Mid Eastern,

00:26:15.280 and Far Eastern cultures,

00:26:16.940 the purpose of numbers is not to be literal.

00:26:20.680 It is to be abstract, symbolic, and communicative,

00:26:23.840 or as Scott might have said,

00:26:25.480 directionally accurate, truthful hyperbole.

00:26:29.120 And so the point of a number like 500,000 Chinese students

00:26:31.840 from that filter is it's not literally half a million.

00:26:37.700 in my understanding with with the context of persuasion it is a whole heck of a lot of the

00:26:43.600 students that you want to have here and you'll be okay over here and personally are you okay with

00:26:51.380 that obviously not i don't think that's necessarily a good idea but i am not alone in that regard i

00:26:57.820 mean just simply go to stephen miller's timeline look at what vice president vance when you are

00:27:03.060 telling the truth versus when you're negotiating with literally a great power enemy, you have to

00:27:11.420 be smart. And I think generally the previous administration did not demonstrate that it's

00:27:17.940 let's, here's what we want. Oh, you're not going to give it to us. Okay. Well, we'll surrender and

00:27:21.640 give you everything you want. But I don't believe president Trump is stupid. And I also think given 1.00

00:27:27.000 in the audience of Fox News and some of the refutation aspects of Mr. Sean Hannity, it kind

00:27:33.900 of makes sense. So I get, I want you guys to understand, I get all of the negotiation skill

00:27:39.000 things. Obviously, I could not be a student of Scott's and a friend of Scott's for so long

00:27:44.860 without understanding these things. But I push you, Joshua, because I just want people to also

00:27:51.140 understand I'm the humane, human, American, I'm not the president and I'm not negotiating with

00:27:56.920 China level, that I would say the majority of Americans are not okay with that. We're just

00:28:07.500 talking hyperbolic about Chinese students, but then there's also all the other countries, right?

00:28:14.000 So there are a lot of foreign students and they're from a lot of countries that are not 0.97

00:28:20.620 are friends or that give a crap about our best interests so i really just thank you for answering

00:28:26.460 that because i just really wanted people to understand like we get it you know well and and

00:28:31.420 by the way like i i would add that that i i think the president understands that this is not something

00:28:36.620 that is going to be popular with his voters not popular with the base um it's it's certainly

00:28:42.140 something that joshua and i have argued against strenuously i've many times called i think even as

00:28:47.100 recently as yesterday called for all chinese students to be uh deported from the united

00:28:51.420 states and have their their visas shredded and and sent away what i'm but what i'm trying to

00:28:56.940 to um to analyze here is okay this is what president trump said he said that on chinese soil

00:29:03.260 why is he saying that what is the deal that he's trying to get for right now and i think

00:29:09.340 predominantly because i even i said uh in at one point i've done a lot of i've done a couple shows

00:29:16.060 lately with all the china stuff um i've even said that you know when he when xi jinping put out that

00:29:23.420 thucydides trap reference that that trump should have just should have just done the first walk

00:29:27.900 away as scott always said and just left just got on the plane and walked right out you're not going

00:29:32.060 to describe us as a fading power as a failing power but the only reason that he wouldn't the

00:29:38.860 only reason that he wouldn't is that he is seeking something in china as well and so this is why you

00:29:47.020 know i i believe you could use the sales strategy of laying it on thick and that's why trump is

00:29:51.660 laying it on thick when he's over there and in fact one of the readouts that we also saw

00:29:57.340 from uh from this was that he even when i asked him about taiwan on the so there's this taiwan

00:30:03.820 arms deal that was signed back in december 11.5 billion it's the largest taiwan military arms deal

00:30:09.980 the u.s has ever done but it hasn't actually started to be sent over they haven't executed

00:30:15.660 on the contract yet and uh they asked the president about that and trump responded that

00:30:20.380 you know well we're going to make that determination later so he's still in chinese airspace when he's

00:30:24.700 making that comment so again he's he's still kind of holding he's holding his cards very close to

00:30:30.540 his chest um he's showing willingness to sell and persuade on certain things that he knows

00:30:37.740 by the way he knows are going to be unpopular with his voters unpopular with the base that

00:30:42.700 certainly are not america first policies and so the question that i have is if he's doing so

00:30:49.260 what's the reason um i appreciate like you know all the perspectives you guys i think um i think

00:30:56.380 this is very useful for everybody listening and i'm i'm the person that likes to i don't like to

00:31:02.540 be the contrarian i just think i tend to like maybe see things on both sides coupled with a

00:31:08.780 little bit of um emotion and whatever but so i appreciate that discussion and i know that china

00:31:15.900 is you know just determined to not let taiwan be part of these like negotiations but that being said

00:31:24.060 i introduced uh the sippers the debris to jimmy lye and his story and it's something i've been

00:31:31.180 following for years um i i used to when i when i would visit hong kong i would always read apple

00:31:37.980 daily i mean great it was just just phenomenal paper where you would go in and they would they

00:31:44.220 would be lighting them up i remember my favorite one uh i was there in hong kong in 2008 and um

00:31:50.780 sometimes you have to do when you're in china as an expat you used to have to um i think you still

00:31:56.060 have to do this uh you can only get a visa for a certain amount of time so they would say you have

00:32:00.460 to leave china and then come back so apply for a visa outside of china but then come back but

00:32:05.740 because of the peculiar setup of the political situation hong kong counted as leaving china

00:32:11.900 so what you would do is you would fly to hong kong you'd you'd be in hong kong so now you've left

00:32:17.820 China mainland China even though you're just in Hong Kong you'd go to an office and then you'd

00:32:22.500 wait like a week or so and then you'd you'd fly back after that so it's like hey go to go to Hong 0.88

00:32:28.200 Kong for a week sounds great which just shows you too so Hong Kong was living such a different 0.86

00:32:32.840 lifestyle than China like it was really considered like its own little piece of paradise for these

00:32:40.080 people it was a British it was British yeah for its entire history up until 1997 Hong Kong was a

00:32:45.840 rock before the British arrived. The Chinese never did anything with it. No dynasty in Chinese 0.91

00:32:52.720 history ever built anything on Hong Kong Island. They never established anything on Hong Kong.

00:32:58.220 So when, you know, even when people make that phrase or use that phrase that Hong Kong was

00:33:03.860 returned to China, that's actually false. Hong Kong was given to China because it was not Chinese to

00:33:09.180 begin with. It was always a British colony and never anything but a British colony. And so they

00:33:14.620 have this this thing that they say in mainland china where they call it one country two systems

00:33:19.000 and that uh that they're trying to you know explain it as that as as thus but anyway so i

00:33:26.720 remember i'm there in 2008 and xi jinping at this point was actually visiting hong kong now he hasn't

00:33:31.740 become the state chairman yet and he was still but he was already a member of the politburo

00:33:36.800 and uh but everyone knew that he was he was kind of going to be the guy everyone knew that he was

00:33:41.980 sort of next in line after Hu Jintao. And what Jimmy Lai did was that he published Xi Jinping's

00:33:48.220 schedule publicly on the front page of every Apple Daily in the city. So all the Hong Kong

00:33:53.960 protesters showed up at every single stop that Xi Jinping was going to be at that day. And I may

00:34:00.380 have, I may, may, I cannot confirm nor deny that I may have also happened upon a few of these in

00:34:07.780 in my travels that week it's a small place it's chances of ending up there it's a small city you 0.99

00:34:13.620 know you just run into things so um i went to a private screening of the hong kongers some years

00:34:20.260 back and met a lot of the people that were in the documentary about what happened to jimmy lie and

00:34:27.220 you guys i have like the biggest hole in my heart for what's happened to him and others over there

00:34:34.420 But what a man. Any do we know anything like or I hate to speculate, you know, I know I don't know what happened.

00:34:43.000 But what do we think about the Jimmy Lai getting out possibility?

00:34:47.860 So Trump did mention this on Air Force One, and it sounded like Xi Jinping said no.

00:34:54.920 It sounded like he just he just straight up said no, that he was not interested, that that's something that's a hard no for him.

00:35:01.960 he said it's very tough and you know this has been something where uh he's he's just totally

00:35:08.200 throwing the book at them and and of course you know when when hong kong was handed over back in

00:35:11.940 1997 we were promised up and down that there would be no uh interference that's the one country two

00:35:19.140 systems thing there would be no interference for 50 years and that lasted maybe 20-ish years

00:35:25.320 and they immediately you know they immediately reneged on that and started throwing people in

00:35:31.380 prison trying to think trying to think who jimmy lie you know in the u.s kind of reminds me of you

00:35:37.040 know you know what what sort of like freedom you know publisher do we have thought about that too

00:35:42.920 i'm curious to see who you think you know i don't i don't know it's sort of like uh it's sort of

00:35:47.220 like maybe like the publisher of it you know i want to say elon because elon me too but but it's

00:35:53.820 like on a much smaller scale like i'm very much smaller scale than than what elon does of course

00:35:58.980 but that that's what it's like it's like or or like you know jim hoft at the gateway pundit or

00:36:03.820 something like someone who's just like or mike lindell like someone who's just a thorn in the

00:36:07.280 side and a truth teller and speaking truth to power like someone who's not um you know who's

00:36:14.880 not any physical threat he's not a violent threat not ever truth teller you know not done anything

00:36:22.160 wrong other than tell the truth he so you guys like like elon he had all the money he could ever

00:36:29.220 want in the world jimmy lie he'd already gone from rags to riches and when i say rags i mean

00:36:34.740 nothing some people in the chat are saying like james o'keefe you know yeah walter kern yeah those

00:36:39.960 are great examples yeah yeah that's what i'm talking about he's he was a publisher he's just

00:36:43.680 a publisher but he but he so i'm thinking so where i see him like elon is elon has all the money in

00:36:50.840 the world. He's got enough jobs and work and businesses and ideas and whatever. But then he's

00:36:56.560 like, F it. I'm going to help this country and I'm going to take Twitter. And he didn't need to do

00:37:02.140 that, but he saw a need for it. And that was the same thing with Jimmy Lai. He's like, he didn't

00:37:08.080 need another penny for the rest of his life. He'd made bajillions, but he was like, we need a free

00:37:13.360 Press and he started Apple Daily. And what did he get for that? And also, where are the British

00:37:22.200 people? They're supposed to have this agreement, I think, till 2047-ish. And Jimmy Lai was put in

00:37:30.400 jail in 2020. He's in solitary confinement. No contact with anybody, no error on his face,

00:37:40.100 no sunlight just in a cell um joshua i mean do you have a take on this i am just so i'm so upset

00:37:48.340 and i just know that she is tying jimmy lied to the no taiwan negotiation so i i looked at it like

00:37:57.440 if she acquiesced to this request he would look weak in the eyes of china so i don't know do you

00:38:04.880 have any thoughts on this joshua sadly i think you're right in that it's a as as simple and

00:38:13.400 as straightforward as the release or some sort of exchange something with with one person might be

00:38:19.720 that one person symbolizes so much that would otherwise put the chinese communist party to shame

00:38:28.860 and the the geopolitical complexity of the situation is that number one the united states 0.90

00:38:38.180 must remain supreme over china they cannot be peers with the chinese communist party that's

00:38:44.200 never going to happen the chinese communist party must always remain submissive to the united states 0.99

00:38:48.660 and our will that said china is not going anywhere unfortunately probably the chinese

00:38:55.840 Communist Party is not going anywhere either. First with the military technology, the totalitarian 0.68

00:39:02.240 dictatorship, the indoctrination of all generations going forwards from the Cultural Revolution under

00:39:07.040 Chairman Mao. And then now all the surveillance technology, the social credit scores, the

00:39:13.160 ubiquity of drones and the highly advanced police state that they have become. The secret police is

00:39:20.340 it's it's so secret it's no longer secret okay the fact that every single chinese citizen who

00:39:27.680 travels internationally can be co-opted as a spy for the united states or rather against the united

00:39:35.300 states or for the benefit of chinese communist party and if you've spoken with any citizens who

00:39:41.000 have been at risk of this they will tell you that in no uncertain terms they were ordered by the

00:39:47.840 chinese communist party to do this specific work in the united states or canada or elsewhere or

00:39:52.620 the united kingdom uh or their families back in mainland china were going to suffer a jimmy lie 0.75

00:39:58.320 kind of a fate you you can't be friends with that kind of a civilization that said there's an 1.00

00:40:08.040 example of that that we all know remember the n95s remember they were they were buying up all 0.99

00:40:12.440 the n95s before they told us about covid and sending them back to china yes again go go to 0.72

00:40:19.020 stephen miller's timeline for the last six years he has been going off about about the chinese 0.54

00:40:22.800 communist party but the thing is that china has seen a number of systems over the years i was

00:40:27.700 showing some history to my son uh going back to the ancient silk robe there was a time you know

00:40:33.020 we think about president nixon being the one who opened up china but there was a period for

00:40:37.400 centuries where China was engaging with trade with as far away as the British Isles via the

00:40:46.160 Silk Road, the Roman Empire. Think about ancient Chinese and ancient Egyptian trade via that

00:40:53.420 trade route. But then there was the period of the closing up in the Forbidden Cities,

00:40:58.020 so on and so forth, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Nixon, 70s, opening up China, Communist Party.

00:41:03.820 China as a culture, as a people, they have been around since the ancient world and they will

00:41:10.080 remain into it. Unfortunately, in order to work with the Chinese people, we have no choice but to 1.00

00:41:19.080 work with their permacaptors of the technologically hyper-advanced Chinese Communist Party. 1.00

00:41:26.560 We don't have any enmity with Chinese people. The problem is every single citizen of China 1.00

00:41:32.660 is as I said co-optable as a spy for one of the most wicked regimes in human history if not the 0.96

00:41:40.620 most wicked regime in human history that of the communist party of China rivaled only by the 0.88

00:41:46.180 Soviet Union who is kind of a frenemy of theirs and a sort of a friendly rival at times not so

00:41:51.720 friendly in any case that's the context into which the Jimmy Lai saga finds itself in which

00:41:59.840 President Trump finds himself. And understanding that as he approaches his 80s, and we have

00:42:08.400 only a couple of years left during his administration, of the Trump administration, 0.89

00:42:15.220 he is not a fool, President Trump. And I believe his position and advances, Miller's, everyone's

00:42:22.520 on the team, and those of us who are allies within the Republican Party for the MAGA and the America

00:42:28.900 first, whatever you want to call it, sort of economic populism and nationalism within the

00:42:33.540 United States and kind of the post-Trump right future. President Trump, I fully believe,

00:42:39.640 wants the United States in the best possible position with the highest points of leverage

00:42:44.740 over the Chinese Communist Party specifically. And am I going to say I'm a plan truster? I trust

00:42:53.100 the plan well i will say that for the better part of half century donald trump has been getting what

00:43:01.460 he wants out of people who didn't want to give it that's true that's true all right so actually i

00:43:07.200 found i think i've so i saw some people in the chat by the way saying uh andrew breitbart that's

00:43:11.760 a great example no question um it'd be like andrew breitbart being thrown in prison which would be

00:43:16.980 completely insane we'd all be against it we've been talking about it constantly and i would just

00:43:21.740 say that you know probably the the best way to explain it to people is that though the jimmy

00:43:26.100 lie he's a modern day solzhenitsyn he is a modern day solzhenitsyn he has been thrown into the gulag

00:43:33.280 um and he is unfortunately much older than solzhenitsyn was when he was imprisoned and

00:43:40.860 he's someone who you know erica to your point if if he's not released soon he probably doesn't have

00:43:45.920 much time left yeah he's sick um so i i appreciate this whole conversation i absolutely want to get

00:43:52.600 to this with the two of you being here since we all know and love mike cernovich um i i really

00:44:00.180 want to get this clip i want to just kind of yes yes i just want to um talk about we talked about

00:44:08.140 the data centers a little bit this week i just i wanted to get this clip in and i'm going to play

00:44:13.380 it. Let's react to it. And every time someone in the chat says, Mike blocked me, I don't know why

00:44:17.780 he blocked me. Take a shot. Okay. Listen. Right now, this very video is being analyzed,

00:44:24.980 photographed. How does the skin look? Are his pupils dilated, fed into an algorithm to

00:44:29.620 psychologically profile me? The square footage of the room is being calculated. It's cradle to

00:44:34.700 grave surveillance. That's why big tech wants the data centers. Now I know as a public person,

00:44:40.840 there's no way around it for me so i don't try to do anything particularly cool to throw off

00:44:46.180 the algor the ia i'm i am what i am i'm spied on it's just the nature of the beast 0.77

00:44:52.820 but big tech mark zuckerberg vaccine mandate funded the destruction of america funded black 0.90

00:44:58.960 lives matter funded illegal immigrants they hire infinite h1bs and now they're telling you that 0.72

00:45:04.020 if we don't beat china then the bad guys china win but big tech are the bad guys who you know 0.94

00:45:10.820 Who is this we? We were censored. We couldn't share the LinkedIn 100 by the laptop. We were

00:45:16.140 told, take the vaccine or you're going to lose your job and your livelihood. Vaccine passports,

00:45:21.400 dude, that's a dream under these data centers. They will do cradle to the grave surveillance.

00:45:27.140 They will suck up every picture, video you take of your kids. It will be harvested.

00:45:33.080 Every movement you make will all be stored. Digital currency will be stored. This is dystopian

00:45:37.920 level stuff. And that's why, because nothing I've said can be refuted, that's why Big Tech and

00:45:44.060 Kevin O'Leary, you know, he went on Tucker and people are mad at Tucker. I don't really care

00:45:47.340 about that. They're saying, well, this is a China talking point. I'm China, dude. I'm China. Or Big

00:45:52.620 Tech, which was funded by China. Big Tech, which promotes social credit scores and censorship.

00:45:57.640 Big Tech, which wouldn't let us talk about COVID, which originated in China.

00:46:02.360 We're China now? No way. Don't fall for this stuff, man. They're using populist messaging.

00:46:07.680 They're using nationalist messaging because they want a shock collar on you.

00:46:11.840 They want the mark of the beast in the literal sense to control everything you do.

00:46:16.900 And that's why they need these data centers.

00:46:18.700 And that's why they're trying to ape our language, our populist nationalist message.

00:46:23.280 Oh, we got to beat China.

00:46:24.380 We?

00:46:24.740 Okay.

00:46:25.320 Where are the checks in, big guy?

00:46:27.260 Where's the money?

00:46:28.160 If it's us, us, and it's not just more profiteering by big tech.

00:46:32.880 Where are the checks, big boys?

00:46:34.180 Oh, all amongst each other.

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00:47:35.480 so you know he also said apple makes its phones in china zuckerberg censored you for claiming

00:47:45.160 covid was created in a laboratory in china nvidia wants to sell chips to china and now we know they

00:47:51.080 will big tech lobbies for infinite student visas for ccp kids who is at war with china not big 0.91

00:47:59.720 tech they are on china's side jack i'm coming right to you i mean you you gotta you gotta love

00:48:07.560 mike cernovich right you know people say where's mike been you know where where is he it's like

00:48:13.000 he's like he's like he's you know this guy he was batting a thousand in 2016 and now he's at like

00:48:17.800 200 you know he's like he's he's he's off doing this thing he's off doing that thing but man when

00:48:23.240 he steps into the batter's box when he steps up to the plate we're playing a lot of little league

00:48:26.920 lately if you can't tell uh with the boys and uh and uh we've got two games tomorrow and a first

00:48:33.560 community actually um that uh you know he just he just knocks out of the park and there's nobody

00:48:40.340 who knocks out of the park like mike cernovich when he's on there's no one better and it's just

00:48:45.460 as simple as that that you know when he wants to throw a punch it's gonna land and he's gonna get

00:48:50.680 through every one of your defenses the picture that he's able to paint and he does think about

00:48:55.000 it he does so at the exact moment when all of the tech leaders as we just talked about are over in

00:49:03.080 china and what did brett bear show us in china he he showed us that physical i mean the persuasion

00:49:09.080 that brett bear did was phenomenal brett bears been putting on a master class in and what he's

00:49:14.840 been with the ping pong video if you guys saw that that was going viral he's playing ping pong with

00:49:18.920 some guy at a at a uh one of the parks there in beijing and he's walking down he gets the parking

00:49:24.840 ticket from the camera so he's we're hearing about china we're hearing about the surveillance state

00:49:30.520 but now he's giving us that visual persuasion of we got a parking ticket within two minutes yeah

00:49:36.920 of illegally parking surveillance state and so mike is showing us that what these guys are doing

00:49:44.280 isn't about like, oh, we're going to beat China. No, we're going to become China if we go down

00:49:50.480 this road. And I've said this for years. They want, when I say they, I'm talking about the 0.99

00:49:55.120 tech elites who are the same elites, by the way, from COVID-19. They saw that as a way to institute

00:50:01.380 the Chinese system on America and on the West. I was doing an interview in the UK who unfortunately

00:50:07.620 are way further down this road than we are and they and i used to see this when i so i worked

00:50:14.340 in shanghai i was at the shanghai american chamber of commerce and you would have the uh this this

00:50:20.020 one museum there was called the shanghai planning museum and and the backstory is that when i was

00:50:24.340 there the city chairman was xi jinping so that's that's how i you know have the my background with

00:50:29.140 xi jinping is like because he was like the city chairman is kind of like a mayor right in a sense

00:50:34.420 but more like a mob boss uh because that's how the ccp runs and uh did i got to briefly you know

00:50:41.140 i don't even say i met him but i you know briefly was you know in the same room as him at uh one of 0.63

00:50:46.580 the shanghai world expo meetings and um you know just just very very up close with him and you

00:50:52.900 could see just mob boss total mob boss and immense power even back then but i remember that western

00:51:01.460 leaders, Republicans and Democrats and business leaders would come to China and they would

00:51:06.460 say, hmm, so what you're saying is you can build a maglev train and the Californians

00:51:13.360 will be able to understand what we're talking about here.

00:51:15.940 You can build a maglev train and it goes faster than anything else and you get all this money

00:51:21.040 to do so and you go straight from the airport to downtown immediately without any waiting.

00:51:25.840 and but but what about all the people who live in the path of where the train needs to be built

00:51:31.740 and the chinese communist leaders would look at them and say what about them he just he just 0.77

00:51:37.380 they're out of luck just get out yeah get out of them get out of there what about these historic

00:51:42.380 uh shirkuman uh buildings these you know the courtyards and the stone buildings that were

00:51:47.740 ubiquitous in in ancient china's what about them just get them out of here just get rid of them

00:51:53.400 there's so so there's there's no conception of rights there's no conception of uh historical 1.00

00:52:00.280 protection or preservation it's all about now now now what do we want and again that total power

00:52:07.800 which becomes an aphrodisiac and so when you know i talked about hong kong before and when you look

00:52:16.280 at the hong kong turnover we were told that this is going to make china more like us because we

00:52:23.720 will infect china with capitalism and infect china with british democracy and british rights and the

00:52:31.320 enlightenment and jeffersonian democracy is just going to flourish in china why just the same way 0.56

00:52:36.920 it did in afghanistan and the way it will in iran and the way it did in iraq after all of our

00:52:40.760 interventions right and ultimately what's actually happened since then and and also allowing china

00:52:46.840 around the same time frame to come into the world trade organization giving the most favored nation

00:52:51.400 status what's happened has been the exact opposite is that we have become more like china rather than

00:52:57.880 china becoming more like us which leads me i is the problem yeah i i know like i i just want to

00:53:05.720 to highlight this for people because it's not about making memes in AI. We're doing that now

00:53:12.000 without these data centers. So I want to play another clip quickly. And Joshua, I'm going to

00:53:17.960 ask you to react first. And this is Tom Massey of Kentucky. And let's watch this clip also about

00:53:26.580 data centers. First version of the big bill had a provision that would let data centers

00:53:34.740 ignore state laws, and not just state laws, but local zoning laws. And I think that's wrong. I

00:53:42.780 think that, you know, when you, I call it sorting the smokestacks from the cul-de-sacs, that's not

00:53:48.360 something the federal government can do from Washington, D.C. That has to be up to a local

00:53:52.400 board and a local government. And they, in the first version of the big bill, they had a provision

00:53:58.860 to overrule not just the states, but the local zoning commissions. And Marjorie Taylor Greene

00:54:05.280 and I fought to get that taken out. And it was taken out, fortunately. That issue came up again

00:54:12.340 recently in my Judiciary Committee. We were marking up eight bills one day in a work session.

00:54:19.380 And I noticed number six on the list was to exempt data centers from eight different environmental

00:54:25.220 laws that they couldn't be sued if they didn't have the permits.

00:54:30.660 And, you know, even though some of those environmental laws may be onerous, I don't

00:54:36.180 know why you would give an exemption to data centers, but not to the farmers or not to

00:54:40.620 the other industries that could exist.

00:54:43.360 And so I said, this is wrong to give a special privilege to an immunity to data centers.

00:54:49.840 So I tweeted about it.

00:54:52.700 I really right there in real time blew the whistle and they decided to take it off of the schedule that day.

00:54:59.540 And it's not come up since. So when people call me an obstructionist, I didn't obstruct the big, beautiful bill.

00:55:06.280 We made it better by being transparent.

00:55:10.000 And I have obstructed things like special privileges and immunities for data centers.

00:55:15.900 And most recently in the farm bill, they had a provision that was going to give special privileges and immunities.

00:55:22.800 I call it a get out of court free card to Monsanto Bear, which makes glyphosate.

00:55:29.720 But OK, and he goes on from there.

00:55:32.040 So, you know, Joshua, I'm just going to we only have five minutes, so I'm going to just give you the floor right now to discuss what you just saw.

00:55:39.900 yes it glitched out there for a second but the issue is near and dear to me because

00:55:47.800 first of all representative massey is correct uh to be very concerned about this and the

00:55:53.760 the objective is among our big tech elite very much so to sort of follow the authoritarian path

00:56:00.100 of china because in a in a private business or even a publicly traded business you can effectively

00:56:05.800 govern like a monarch. And when you try to govern like a monarch within the constitutional democratic

00:56:10.900 republic system of the United States, you have to engage in leverage and lobbying and all of these

00:56:17.400 things to try to get what you want. Look at the Zuck bucks in Wisconsin, $400 million 2020 for

00:56:22.440 basically getting Biden that state. Okay, that's how important it was for just one individual to

00:56:29.360 get the one thing that he wanted. And so Posto is correct that the objective is indeed to

00:56:35.300 see what the Chinese are capable of, the Communist Chinese Party, with their technology.

00:56:39.440 Well, we need that technology, too. We can do that. And it's worse in the United States

00:56:43.820 because of, let's say, changing consumer habits and the need for something like secret police

00:56:51.880 that's not so secret at all to deal with, shall we say, mall teams and the problems we have across

00:56:59.760 United States associated with that behavior. But data centers, there's one to be built in Clark

00:57:06.100 County, Ohio. That will sound familiar to a number of viewers. What's Clark County best known for

00:57:11.360 right now? Oh, yeah, Springfield, the Haitian population there. When I so I've been working

00:57:17.480 on the way, I've been trying so hard to pressure Joshua to write a book about this. Do you guys

00:57:22.840 know that Joshua lives like, like what two towns over from there? Not to dox you, but come on, man.

00:57:28.280 come on you're in the heart of it you're in the yeah i get on the state route and then i'm in

00:57:32.700 springfield yes um and everywhere there are no data centers band data centers there's like

00:57:38.460 we're collecting signatures this is this is a very very very big deal because as far as i've

00:57:44.000 gathered so far the p the heritage citizens of springfield are very concerned and upset by the

00:57:48.760 haitian immigrant influx that goes back to as far as 2019 five years before the cats and the dogs 0.67

00:57:56.100 viral memeology. That kind of became the story. But most recently, there's a data center that is 0.63

00:58:01.880 scheduled to be built and construction is already underway right alongside a new neighborhood. So

00:58:07.120 people have been buying homes in this new development, not realizing that there's this

00:58:11.720 massive data center that's being built over there. And of course, there is the tax breaks.

00:58:17.680 There is the invitation by the city and the county to have this built here. There's all sorts of what

00:58:23.600 the people deem sketchy that's happening here i've been to city commission meetings in springfield

00:58:29.200 and the one the latest one that i uh most recent one that i went to um one of the heritage citizens

00:58:34.800 got up and explained how upset they were by this large tract of land being sold to a commercial

00:58:40.960 developer in order to build a data center there and the mayor rob rue is his name kind of shrugged

00:58:47.760 it off and basically said uh well it's privately owned land and privately owned sellers can do

00:58:53.700 whatever they want with a privately owned land so suck it up buttercup i'm paraphrasing what he said

00:58:59.220 there um but that that is the problem in my opinion with one nation under gdp not god which

00:59:07.280 is sort of the old world republican party where it's gonna quote whatever it takes to make money

00:59:13.640 cash money cash money keep going number go up number go up number go up americans don't forget

00:59:19.720 the hyphen and that's just not nationalist populism that's not what america first or

00:59:24.520 maga are about that's not what president trump is about and right right now there is a new um

00:59:31.400 it's called either a task force or a a committee that the ohio legislature uh let's say yes so

00:59:38.120 there's an ohio prohibition of data center construction amendment that is being pushed

00:59:42.920 right now uh let's see yeah yeah 5c data centers and parent organization hypertech they're planning

00:59:51.600 on the 75 megawatt prime ohio park facility um yeah so they're they're they're claiming that

00:59:58.900 they're going to be able to independently fund all the things that they need but the biggest drain is

01:00:02.800 the water and county water and springfield and in clark county infrastructure is noticeably aging

01:00:09.500 to be polite to the city itself and it the sort of the the um the spirit is the data centers are 1.00

01:00:17.740 like the haitian migrants you're putting them here without asking us about it that's right you get 1.00

01:00:23.340 the benefit and we have to pay for it and and just permission to steal one more minute from you guys 1.00

01:00:30.280 i just want to show visually i'll i'll even turn off alex jones voice but i just want you guys to

01:00:36.380 understand a lot of people don't even know what a data center could look like look at this it's

01:00:40.860 it's the size of a large town yeah look at this crap these are the smaller ones there's a there's

01:00:47.620 a there's a big one they're building in in um out west i mean ladies and gentlemen ladies and 1.00

01:00:55.820 gentlemen this is for a new life form this is for a robot takeover the 5g's that have all the drones 0.97

01:01:01.360 and robots and everything's deliverable it's all about getting you out of your cars making you 1.00

01:01:05.240 obsolete this is this is absolutely hellish what is being done and then that and it just goes on

01:01:12.680 for mile after mile after mile after mile of what they're building yeah look at this one salt lake

01:01:18.200 city utah look at the size of that we'll come back before our guest comes on the first five and play

01:01:23.420 so i just i i just really appreciate these two topics today because it is like once they're here

01:01:30.160 they're here uh you know the the government doesn't undo anything uh they just keep marching

01:01:36.360 forward so i am so proud of the people you know like just one woman in new jersey got one to to

01:01:42.820 stop uh there's many more planned in new jersey but you know fight this you guys you know it's

01:01:48.880 like again what is this for why do we need this um data centers in space is probably the probably

01:01:55.640 be the future i think i think jack has to scoot right now but yeah hard out but you guys feel

01:02:02.600 free to chat thank you for having me on uh always love being here um always uh always thinking about

01:02:09.000 scott and you know it's funny watching some of this this stuff with the china meeting i just i

01:02:13.800 like i can hear scott in my in my mind just commenting as you know as certain things happen

01:02:19.580 it's just uh he he rewired our minds yeah and that's that's a true gift that he gave to all of

01:02:24.740 Amen. Thank you. We're all going to scoot, actually. We all have to move on to life. But I would love to have you guys back on together. This was so fun. And I just appreciate the conversation. I hope that this was useful for everybody. Scott wants us all to be useful. So I think just today was great. It was great.

01:02:47.820 um joshua thank you so much everybody here in the chat oh it wouldn't be a show unless

01:02:54.060 i played this real quick i'm obsessed okay so thank you everybody in the chat for being here

01:03:04.680 at the scott adams school oh owen's doing the after party tomorrow on spaces on x so he will

01:03:10.300 be there usual time we will repost this show after i'm so sorry youtube you know rumble and

01:03:17.400 YouTube sometimes just get cranky with each other, but we'll also be back on Monday with Marcella

01:03:23.480 and Owen. We have Gad Sad on Thursday, Suicidal Empathy. So let's say our goodbyes now. And we

01:03:30.760 always thank Scott and Shelly for allowing the show to continue. And, um, as you know, Scott

01:03:36.340 would say, get out there and be useful, have a great weekend and a closing sip to our beloved

01:03:42.220 Scott to Scott guys.

01:03:47.400 thank you joshua it's my pleasure erica thanks for having us on we love having you on

01:03:54.680 we're gonna grab you again soon you bet take care bye guys

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Real Coffee with Scott Adams - May 15, 2026

The Scott Adams School - 05⧸15⧸26 Poso, Lisec & Erica. China. Data Centers, Cernovich. Trump

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