00:03:23.620does the cat have diabetes now i don't know
00:03:28.640it's gonna be a fat cat the cat so that's just an idea if you ever taken a stray and you're like
00:03:38.000hey listen i need money to pay for this sucker there you go that's an idea uh that was my animal
00:03:43.140clip and my economic um advice clip of the day so there you go just like trump monetize everything
00:03:51.580i mean why not maybe get your own cat food brand who knows or maybe make it like a bitcoin token
00:03:57.780why you stop at cats anything right what if we what are you thinking marcella people
00:04:04.460yes i was just gonna say for the like the san francisco issue and la and everything so what
00:04:11.660if there was like a little token and then that would find your homeless that would give the
00:04:16.120fentanyl out to the homeless no food food food focus on food no come on make it fun no bath
00:04:24.220given the fentanyl no we'll shoot out like granola bars or something oh but then karen
00:04:30.460bass has to get them new teeth to eat the granola bars something soft pudding and applesauce there
00:04:35.300go there'll be a dentist involved we're solving problems for the world right now
00:04:42.500like if you were like okay i'm going on that app and it's like and i'm not making fun of these
00:04:47.380people but it's like feed a drug addict it's like okay i'm gonna feed a drug addict making a
00:04:52.980difference yeah and you can see them get the food and receive it and like be happy and you're like
00:04:57.700okay good so i'll just build an ai version then there's no real homeless people impacted
00:05:02.740what do you do build an ai version yeah just you know fake homeless people getting fake food for
00:05:07.900money oh that's a good one too that's a good one yeah that's really i have to give them or anything
00:05:15.720you just take it all like the sarah mclaughlin commercials where all that stuff i think was
00:05:19.320fake too what with the i can't i'll get dinged on our channel if i sing the song but with the animals
00:05:27.700come on i'm getting ideas for sure where did that money really go erica come on i don't know i can't
00:05:34.980watch the commercial as soon as i hear that song start i'm like darn thing we went on an odd side
00:05:40.940quest i know but i'm thinking owen that wasn't very philanthropic of you for the people that
00:05:46.460really need the food i at least had a good intention oh my gosh i'm just going with the
00:05:53.080fraud theme that seems to have taken over the country ah fraud fraud yes the big f word what
00:05:58.080is this clip hmm i brought a clip and i don't know what it is not knowing what the clip is yeah
00:06:04.300very exciting risky click oh shoot well okay i do want participation um on this topic okay i kind
00:06:17.080of threw this at Owen and Marcella last minute, because I want to know in the chat, what you guys
00:06:23.860all know about this tick situation. So the weather's warm, people are outside. I have seen videos.
00:06:32.200I've heard about this before. So let's kind of work this out together. And I do not want to be
00:06:37.520an alarmist, but I want us to at least know what's happening and to, you know, see what kind of
00:06:43.900precautions we need so let me just play this and then we have two clips about it so i'm going to
00:06:48.360play actually i'll play this one first it's joe rogan with uh tim burchett he said his last name
00:06:54.160is burchett by the way not burchett so now it's tim burchett yeah he said it's him then right all
00:07:01.700right here we go really crazy and the and ticks watch that thing the tick thing is nuts yeah
00:07:06.920especially mate because of gates uh-huh um well there's boxes people are finding i don't know if
00:07:11.820This is true because I've seen many reports on it, but I'm just going to say what I saw, that farmers and ranchers are finding boxes of ticks on their property.
00:07:21.000I don't know if someone's setting that up to pretend they found these boxes of ticks, but there's videos of these people finding boxes of ticks.
00:07:27.940Now, what they'll say is they'll probably say they're sterile ticks and that we're planting them out there so we can diminish the population is what they'll say.
00:07:35.300But any time they try to mess with the balance of nature, it never goes right.
00:12:05.380I think it's from Lyme, New York, or I could have the state wrong, but it's the place it0.94
00:12:10.120came from, which just happens to be where they had one of these bio labs. And there is certainly0.99
00:12:16.940lots of speculation that it may have been one of these released government programs that is causing
00:12:22.600Lyme disease. So that's certainly been a well-known conspiracy theory, and you can either
00:12:28.960believe or not believe it. Lyme Connecticut, they're saying. Yeah. So Lyme disease, they
00:12:33.660they uh infected these ticks with i i don't remember what it's called so anyway what my
00:12:40.620let's let's listen to my second clip this will help us further the discussion i think it's uh
00:12:45.900interestingly important did we actually use ticks as bio weapons yes it's actually uh in cia
00:12:55.340documents that have been declassified for instance uh infected ticks were deployed uh from c-130s
00:13:02.700flying low over sugarcane fields in Cuba back in the day under President Kennedy. There is
00:13:10.700abundant evidence of the testing, field testing, of infected ticks and other insects in a variety
00:13:20.780of settings in the United States and elsewhere. Clearly, USAMRID was involved, and in particular,
00:13:30.620the Plum Island facility that had been a biowarfare investigative facility up in Long
00:13:39.020Island region, and then was transferred over to USDA, was involved in a lot of this research.
00:13:46.200It also involved infected mosquitoes and deployed infected mosquitoes and a number of other things.
00:13:52.800And the one that, I mean, with this AI-driven investigation that I ran through as part of our efforts to develop new systems for verification and monitoring of the Biowarfare Convention, what this uncovered that I hadn't been aware of was the release of a large number of Lone Star ticks that have been radioactively tagged in Virginia.
00:14:19.180It appears that that was responsible for the introduction of Lone Star ticks along the eastern seaboard that have now migrated north of the Mason-Dixon line.
00:14:37.360As part of a project in the 60s to look at the ability of these modified insects to disseminate geographically.
00:14:46.440And it appears that that's the origin of the Lone Star tick infestation that we now have along the eastern seaboard.
00:14:55.140It also appears that that Army research involved development of ticks that had multiple pathogens and the appearance that those modified organisms found their ways into the eastern seaboard, potentially through animals crossing over to Plum Island and then back onto the mainland.
00:15:25.140Um, so I think it's something for us to take seriously, to tick seriously, um, because
00:17:41.520it is in my opinion yeah i would rather smell like rotten eggs than not be able to eat meat0.65
00:17:47.540andy says someone yeah go ahead wait andy says erica's mob contracts we require sulfuric acid
00:17:56.840i know someone in the chat wanted us to talk about project mongoose which i think is
00:18:03.560connected to what robert malone was talking about i think it's um it was a program in the 50s and
00:18:09.82060s to kind of sabotage cuba and um from what i'm reading in grok it doesn't really have any
00:18:16.660verified connection to ticks that there isn't any declassified and documents at least that
00:18:23.800say there were ticks involved but there was a sabotage effort and you know at least the
00:18:28.780speculation i think is that maybe they did release these diseased ticks into cuba as part of that
00:18:33.340effort but they were you know definitely doing things to cuba to try and destabilize them
00:18:37.440It was a CIA operation. And in the AlphaGal part, I think there is, again, speculation that it came from Fort Detrick and was developed as a bioweapon and got released either accidentally or on purpose. And that's the story behind it. I think there's a book called Bitten that claims there is some CIA source that said this was happening. So there's some claims, at least, along those lines, but I'm not sure how much of it's actually been sort of verified or proven.
00:19:06.260Okay. And you guys in the chat, you have great suggestions, products, ways to protect yourself. So good. Thanks for posting all that. All right. So, you know, we discussed it. If I hear anything more, we'll talk about it. And I think I'm going to kick back with the chat because Owen and Marcella have so many stories and I want to hang with the peeps.
00:19:32.500So, Owen, I'm going to let you ramble out a story first, and then we'll go to Marcella.
00:19:45.940A franchisee filed the lawsuit for $100 million in damages.
00:19:49.960They rolled out this AI-powered delivery system that I think was connected to DoorDash, and
00:19:55.300it looks like drivers began waiting to batch multiple orders together, and as a result,
00:20:01.800a lot of people got cold pizza because they were basically able to see you know what's coming in
00:20:07.180through the kitchen so they could see if there's you know a better way to they could batch up their
00:20:11.320orders into one trip and they would maybe wait up to 15 minutes to get other deliveries
00:20:15.100and so this franchisee is looking for a hundred million dollars in damages plus attorney fees
00:20:20.720and it looks like Pizza Hut is reviewing the lawsuit and will respond so I think it looks
00:20:27.160like maybe the franchisee is suing Pizza Hut. I'm not sure. But yeah, AI is kind of going wild
00:20:34.080with Pizza Hut. So this certainly agrees with my prediction that I think there will be a company
00:20:39.920that goes out of business because of AI. I don't know if this one will be enough to put them out
00:20:44.320of business, but it's the same sort of thing I was anticipating would happen. Did you see where
00:20:49.680the, I don't know, I think it was a college graduation and they implemented AI to read
00:20:56.360all the students names to come up and get their diplomas and it missed like whole batches of
00:21:01.720students and it all went haywire they were like oh god they were all like wait like what about
00:21:08.100like all of us and this person and it was so bad which you gotta love to see it it's funny all right
00:21:15.860so oh and then did you also hear that pizza hut that there's someone who bought like i'm making
00:21:21.420this up like 30 pizza huts and he's old-fashioned them all back to retro so with those vinyl red and
00:21:29.220white checkered tablecloths the tiffany style stained glass um chandeliers or lamps that would
00:21:35.500be over the tables that say pizza hut you guys the red plastic bumpy feeling cups at pizza hut
00:21:43.220are life like you would get like a big soda in that big plastic red cup so anyway i'm very excited
00:21:50.320about that and the idea was to just kind of like bring people back you know maybe go with the
00:21:54.720family and you know whatever so i love that this guy's doing that because as you all know i am
00:22:00.320living for nostalgia at this point um okay marcella let's have a good one so we we have a historic dc
00:22:09.520fountain flows again after seven years and some people are saying after 20 years um and the news
00:22:16.400is reporting it now how is this news how is fountain water fountains flowing in dc news well
00:22:25.360because that hasn't happened nobody's ever done it under any presidency um for about 20 years
00:22:33.360water is flowing again of course the news doesn't give thanks to you know who um they don't think
00:22:41.520president trump but that they leave that out so there was a major landmark park where it was
00:22:50.260brought back meridian hill park um even people uh were commenting on x that they were there
00:22:58.260and that people were at the park and they were like can you believe he got it done
00:23:03.160can you believe it and there were like several very liberal looking people you know the the same
00:23:10.360You can't really judge a book by its cover, but there are certain people that you automatically know that might not be Trump voters, but they were surprised.
00:23:21.940They were like, he actually got it done.
00:23:24.180So the U.S. Department of the Interior posted a video of the fountain flowing, and some people are saying that decline is a choice, and we've chosen to do this.
00:23:37.060so now it's big news to have water flowing again all right good i mean yeah the man can can pretty
00:23:47.060much build and do and repair anything i didn't know fountains water fountains would be so exciting
00:23:52.900one of the things that was happening here is that it wasn't just the water wasn't flowing
00:23:57.700there was things growing you know i was you know just horrendous kind of like he's doing with the
00:24:03.300uh reflection pool so yes go ahead oh i'm so sorry i was just gonna say i had the same thought as
00:24:09.180famous in the chat that uh you know the next step is the homeless people start taking showers in
00:24:13.340the fountains so no because there's a we you know as you know as you guys know that there was a lot
00:24:22.760of homeless that were moved out of dc because the um national guard is on watch everywhere there
00:24:30.620so but that can only be done in a federal area so don't we all want to go get like a raft and
00:24:38.540get in the reflection pool when it's done and just kind of float around for the day
00:24:42.000they should make it a wave pool i'm going to get arrested
00:24:45.760i'll call you marcel i'll be like help i was in the bill you i was in the pool
00:24:52.000all right yay water i mean um fill up your little cup for the little squirrels when they're hot and
00:24:59.600give them some water. Okay. Go ahead. All right. Well, another science story, the apparently
00:25:07.260science of bioengineered photosynthesis in the eyes to treat dry eye disease. So they figured
00:25:13.400out that this molecule from spinach or particles from spinach can be inserted into eyes and will
00:25:19.780essentially create the molecules that were deficient that were causing the dry eye. So
00:25:26.180I think it's still in animal models at this point. So it certainly has a way to go to be tested,
00:25:30.900but it looks like there may be a way to put plants in your eyes and become kind of a hybrid
00:25:37.320plant animal and fix your dry eye. All right. So immediately I would go get
00:25:42.980spinach leaves and I would just steam them ever so slightly with like a wet paper towel around
00:25:50.440them and i'd rest them on my eyes well is that make sure you don't include any sulfuric acid
00:25:57.880no just spinach just spinach that's it you would say that what could go wrong with spinach steam
00:26:05.880never ever ever take my advice okay just it's just me talking okay if i read that and i had this dry
00:26:16.280eye issue, I'd be like, let's get some spinach, put it in a little moist paper towel, fold it over,
00:26:22.440just nuke it for two seconds and just lay it on your eyes. If not, you know, take a little nap,
00:26:27.460relax. You know, I knew somebody that had a dry eye issue. I won't name names, but
00:26:34.120it's so embarrassing. They might be watching, but they went to this like doctors. I mean,
00:26:41.660everything like very like trying to figure it out took all these like drops and all that and what
00:26:48.260ended up happening is that he or she figured out the doctor with the doctor that she wasn't
00:26:55.100he or she wasn't drinking enough water so there was no hydration coming so therefore the dry eyes
00:27:02.060okay with that being said everyone i've got a little hydration everyone take a hydrating sip
00:27:08.980for the health of your eyes um i'll take coffee coffee dehydrates but i'm just have both have
00:27:15.780both okay and look scott's approving okay so owen you go girl i mean i was reading you go sorry you
00:27:25.780go girl owen all right lord help me well there's a study that is apparently has found that the
00:27:34.180the Arctic was ice-free year-round 14,000 years ago when CO2 was much lower than it is now.
00:27:40.240So I think this is in Scott's category of wait until you find out about climate models.
00:27:45.720But apparently 14,000 years ago, I think the parts per million on CO2 was at 230. We're at
00:27:51.460430 today, so significantly higher. But apparently back then, there was no ice in the Arctic. And I
00:27:58.300think it started around that time where it sort of started accumulating, but it would be melted
00:28:03.240in the summer but for a lot of that time it didn't have any ice at all so apparently one more data
00:28:08.600point that shows that our climate models are not accurate and do not capture what's actually going
00:28:13.080on in the climate which i think scott had as a very big theme throughout his show that he was
00:28:18.680saying we don't you know we don't have the capability to really model the climate and
00:28:22.840to predict what things would happen based on the climate the whole climate hoax obviously because
00:28:28.840now it's like data centers woohoo I mean it's amazing the people who have pivoted from
00:28:35.240the world's dying and climate and blah blah blah to we need data centers um Marcella what do you
00:28:42.120have to say about I mean I I love that story it's like yes things just change don't they just change
00:28:49.000slowly yeah I mean the climate model thing that's you know how how how accurate are they
00:28:57.900to predict if they can't even predict um the weather right or anything right you know so i
00:29:05.900don't know why people put up with that but um later today there's primary election day um
00:29:14.140and the battle is out for 2026 starts today in alabama georgia idaho kentucky oregon and
00:29:21.980pennsylvania wow yes scott pressler is on the ballot in pennsylvania get out and vote i think
00:29:32.620he's in beaver county which is you'll never forget that scott pressler is in beaver county
00:29:40.140it's just the best i mean he even laughs all right sorry i'm interrupting you i'm punchy
00:29:44.780That's the Pittsburgh area. Oh my God, I can't even speak. So there's very important races. One of them is in Pennsylvania, not only Scott Pressler, but the governor. There is a Republican candidate for governor named Stacey Garrity, and she is running and she has a good chance.
00:30:04.860The reason why Pennsylvania is important is because there's a lot of seats there that Democrats want to flip from Republican to Democrat.
00:30:15.740So, you know, we'll see how that works out.
00:30:19.920The other one, the other story that I saw is that Oregon voters are perhaps could vote for the next Republican governor that they haven't had since 1980s.
00:30:31.86080s. Chris Dudley, who knows if he's going to win, but, you know, so he has votes for
00:30:41.660winning, but, you know, the jury will be out on that. And I believe Kentucky, we talked
00:30:49.940about yesterday, not only is the race, Massey's race going on, but there's a U.S. Senate race
00:30:56.900with a crowded Republican primary. This is just the primary. And it's to replace Senator Mitch
00:31:05.440McConnell. And we'll see where that goes. Alabama just opened races for governor and Senate. But
00:31:14.520the Pennsylvania one is the one to watch out for. Governor, the incumbent, Josh Shapiro,
00:31:20.200The Democrat is unopposed on the Democratic side, of course, but on the Republican side, we have Stacey Garrity, which I talked about. Georgia has multiple candidates. They have challenges, vulnerable Democratic incumbents, Senator John Ossoff in the state.
00:31:44.780so we'll see how it pans out but go vote for good candidates um don't look at the party but
00:31:55.420obviously we know which party you would need to vote for good luck scott pressler yay scott let's
00:32:02.780flip the country red let's do it um i i'm so proud of scott i mean we go so way back and i mean just
00:32:12.240Well, I mean, the, have you ever seen someone so tireless? I can't even stand it. And he's just
00:32:18.560been on the go. I mean, like we first, uh, became friends in 2015 and he's just so on the go. I
00:32:26.120can't, I mean, and then he got sick and then he like readjusted and, you know, then, you know,
00:32:31.840he started like his health journey and he's been, yeah, he's just, you know, I'm really proud of him.
00:32:36.700And so, you know, I hope everything works out well for him.
00:33:13.760Well, psychologists say they've identified a key reason that conversations with your partner might turn negative.
00:33:19.220And apparently the finding is that if you're uncertain about your relationship, they have more negative emotions during everyday conversations.
00:33:26.460I think this falls in the category of you probably could have just asked Scott.
00:33:29.480and maybe also backward science because you know you would think maybe they're uncertain about their
00:33:34.880relation because of the negative conversations it probably could go the other way don't you think
00:33:39.780um yeah but apparently shockingly if you're helpful to your partner that makes it people
00:33:47.160more happy and positive and if you have doubts about your relationships somehow that leads to
00:33:52.960more annoyance and negative interactions can you imagine mm-hmm is it meant i mean
00:33:59.120backwards who could have ever predicted yeah that's backwards science okay
00:34:07.760that might be that i didn't think of it but um i was like am i seeing this right oh lordy um
00:34:16.880yeah i mean how how shocking that is i mean you could never have predicted that it's so stupid
00:34:22.960you mean if you're nice to someone it's a good thing well if you get along with somebody
00:34:32.120yeah oh and tell us from your experience is that true tell us from your experience uh i think so
00:34:38.740yeah i think generally if you're nice to people it works out better yeah i do think that it can
00:34:43.940be overdone though and i think it can be done in a healthy way for anyone who might have read the
00:34:48.160book, No More Mr. Nice Guy. That makes kind of the counter argument, but it doesn't mean
00:34:53.980be a dick to your partner. It just means it's more about being honest. So I think the point
00:35:01.760it makes in that book, which I thought was good, is that some people think of them as a nice guy,
00:35:06.720but then they just think, well, because I was nice to you, you owe me all these other things,
00:35:10.640and you should be doing all these things for me. And why aren't you doing all these things that I
00:35:13.980want you to do. And a lot of times it's totally unspoken expectations. You don't really tell them
00:35:19.360this is what I need or want from you. And you're not really taking responsibility to fulfill your
00:35:23.880own needs. And so this Mr. Nice Guy syndrome that he talks about is kind of this really
00:35:28.940dysfunctional thing where you're thinking, well, I did all these nice things. So now I should get
00:35:33.980all these nice things. And you don't even necessarily even ask your partner for these
00:35:37.120things. So I think the advice is to just be more honest and say, you know, be upfront about what
00:35:42.360you expect or what you want and you know do whatever negotiation you can do and also take
00:35:48.000responsibility for fulfilling your own needs don't put it all on your partner yeah just i mean i think
00:35:53.940though it's like gift giving like just give because you want to give not because you want to receive
00:35:59.440something in return and i feel like if that's just who you are like you know you're just like
00:36:04.420a generally nice person you know respectful or considerate or whatever you want to classify it as
00:36:11.620you should be getting that back and if you're not getting it back then you got to reevaluate
00:36:16.420like who are you spending time with um it'll wear you down right so you should not look at the chat
00:36:23.860no you shouldn't you are so funny marcella would you like to chime in some more would you like to
00:36:30.080just have a whole new story it's up to you i'll have a whole new story okay
00:37:09.720Anyways, President Donald Trump said yesterday he's calling off an attack on Iran as planned for Tuesday because regional leaders had urged them to allow negotiations to continue and a very acceptable deal for the U.S. was at hand.
00:41:16.260There was the UAE thing. I don't know if you want to talk about that. There was an attack on a nuclear plant, right? Right, Owen?
00:41:28.680oh i know there was an attack in uae i don't remember if it was nuclear or not but it might
00:41:34.640have been i think it was that there were some missiles that were launched and i think they
00:41:38.920came from iraq but everybody thinks it really came from iran um in terms of the actual source
00:41:44.440of it so i think there are more of these regional things happening um but again i think it sounds
00:41:51.320like at least if trump is telling the truth which i don't know if he is or not but i would assume he
00:41:55.860had some of these conversations that they may just not want to, again, have a completely
00:42:01.580crippled Iran. So we'll have to see if they change their mind and want to do it. I think0.99
00:42:07.500at different points in time, it sounds like Trump has said that people like the UAE and
00:42:13.300others want him to do more military action. Now he's saying they want him to hold off
00:42:17.640on military action. So it's kind of hard to know exactly how everybody feels about these
00:42:21.700different things. And it's just, again, in a wartime situation, it's kind of hard to know
00:42:29.000what's really going on. Another story I posted was that the Iranian president, Massoud, I don't
00:42:34.260know if I can pronounce this, Pazeshkian, said some kind of public admission that there was
00:42:41.100a lot of harm from the US attacks and was urging officials to face reality. He said that Iranian
00:42:50.900leaders should avoid any tone or voices that create division but should face reality it's not0.95
00:42:56.080the case that we have not suffered harm so it seems like there at least is a few cracks in the
00:43:00.720armor in terms of the iranian side of it that they're saying you know there has been a lot
00:43:05.080of damage to their oil infrastructure gas infrastructure power plants different things
00:43:11.220so seems like there's at least some admission on their side that they're hurting
00:43:15.540mm-hmm okay marcella anything on that no but i can go to my next story i mean okay i just um
00:43:25.720all right so i i ran i just uh i ran i can't stop saying it so so uh a lot of people agree with you
00:43:36.400owen um we'll keep our eye on it i mean i you know it's how many days till midterms like 120 ish i
00:43:44.440guess. So it would be nice to be able, I know you can't just wrap up this war, but it would be nice
00:43:51.300so we can focus on keeping seeds, gaining seeds and not losing or everything just stops and gets
00:44:00.040stalled. So I really want to focus on that, but I know, I know. Okay. So Marcella, go to your next
00:44:05.600story. That was my weird little chime in. You know, what was odd is that I was talking to Grok
00:44:10.220the other day about the iran war and i asked like what days what they are we in the iran war i think
00:44:16.700it was 80 days yesterday and it told me oh no it's over already i'm like oh really it's been
00:44:24.740and it said like actual fighting has been over for two weeks already or so on and so on which
00:44:30.520is kind of um true and not true at the same time you know there hasn't been um everything's calm
00:44:37.340right now because there's a ceasefire so i guess but it thought it had finished already so i don't
00:44:43.320know well trump said it was over when congress was trying to tell him that they needed to like
00:44:48.500authorize the spending or something he's like oh no it's already done we're done marco rubio said
00:44:52.840that too right yeah so i guess grok is very literal like if somebody says it then it must be
00:44:59.940true well i mean all of this is kind of however you want to frame it right because they didn't
00:45:06.900declare war we haven't declared war since world war ii so what does it mean for a war to be over
00:45:12.080that was never declared and that's crazy owen we haven't declared war since world war ii no we
00:45:21.120haven't korea was not declared vietnam was not declared none of it was declared iraq not declared
00:45:28.160afghanistan not declared desert storm all of it nope it was none of it none of it was a declared
00:45:36.500war so that i mean that put the lie to you know congress saying oh you're not allowed to do this
00:45:41.980without us declaring more it's like come on guys we've been doing this for what 50 years i mean
00:45:46.560how this is the same thing we've been doing for forever and you obviously gave the authority to
00:45:52.200the president to do these things and so i think it was just kind of ridiculous for them to try
00:45:56.100and claim that trump wasn't following the law because he's doing exactly what every other
00:45:59.260president has done for you know 50 or 60 years wow yeah you know what that's crazy you're right
00:46:05.480trying to think about all of like going back yeah you're right they were always just like operations
00:46:11.160operations yeah or like we're just you know strategically doing one little thing we're not
00:46:16.120it's not actually a war oh my goodness so in regards to war there was a war between um ai
00:46:24.280masters elon and uh elon musk and sam altman in a federal court in oakland california and the jury
00:46:34.520returned the verdict rejected elon musk's claim against open ai finding that he brought this
00:46:40.760lawsuit against the company and the chief executive sam allman after the statue of
00:46:46.200limitations had expired in deliberations that lasted less than two hours the nine person panel
00:46:53.000because in a criminal case it has to be 12 but in in civil matters sometimes there's less than 12
00:47:01.320There's a nine-person panel found against Musk at technical grounds that he had alleged in his testimony that the startup behind the world's most popular chatbot stole a charity when it converted into a for-profit company.
00:47:16.760So my takeaway is if you can get away with it for just three years, you can keep all your donors' money and you can convert your nonprofit to a for-profit company and you can just do whatever you want with it.
00:47:26.440Well, that happens all the time, Owen.
00:47:28.220I mean, the statute of limitations is pivotal to civil, you know, civil disgrace.
00:47:36.240So the reason why, because a lot of people are wondering, why did it go through to a trial?
00:47:41.700Why didn't the statute of limitations just end the case by the judge dismissing it?
00:47:46.980You know, so in regards to this, there was a motion for summary judgment in the case,
00:47:52.100which OpenAI filed against Musk saying that, hey, your honor, there is a statute of limitations.
00:47:59.700They've surpassed it because we think they knew, he knew since 2017.
00:48:04.720And there's also other evidence that he knew since 2019 that we wanted to make it for profit.
00:48:10.760it. And so the judge actually looked at the, at the arguments and said that there was,
00:48:18.440um, that she could not find for this, that she couldn't, it wasn't her opinion because it wasn't
00:48:26.220a legal question, but a factual question. So factual questions go to the jury. So the jury
00:48:31.440was supposed to determine whether this factually was, um, what they believed because on one hand
00:48:39.620you have musk alleging that he knew way later and on the other side you have uh open ai saying that
00:48:46.260he knew however however let's and i give you owen i i understand what you mean um in medical
00:48:54.420malpractice is one year statute of limitations you you know who's in regards to who is um
00:49:02.900giving money to politicians to make that the law. But in the art of war, it's not always
00:49:10.640who wins the case that really wins. So one of the things that was written, there was an article
00:49:16.400written in the Wall Street Journal about how Elon, despite the fact that he is going to appeal,
00:49:23.900he might have won at the very end anyways, because we still have, he still put scam
00:49:31.080all meant as his moniker as he was talking to him about he put him on the
00:49:37.260stand for many days he called them a liar and he was you know deposed and
00:49:46.740also cross-examined in this trial brick and referred to to him as a liar and he
00:49:54.540had to answer questions it was a long shot to win the case but he wanted the
00:50:00.900very end because he put a lot of eyes on open ai that's what was determined by wall street journal
00:50:08.520um the article is called the art of war by tim higgins in there and uh so it's it's it's he's
00:50:17.480going to appeal the thing that the the the why the case was so important is because if he if
00:50:24.680sam allman would have lost he probably would have been removed as ceo and they're going public soon
00:50:30.440open ai as well as spacex which has within spacex has xai they're going public in june
00:50:39.960so a lot of people were watching this case um i don't know if you have anything to say about
00:50:47.080these you guys but it was i feel like i i don't know and then i don't want to enter in like a
00:50:54.220whole new subject into this, but I'm just going to say like, I mean, I, so, all right, so here's
00:51:01.360my quick thoughts. It's so weird to use Grok and chat GPT. Like sometimes I'm just like,
00:51:09.700do you two little entities know I'm using both of you? Are you trying to keep me here by persuading
00:51:16.620me more? Cause sometimes I'll be like, Chester, Chester's my chat GPT. I'll be like, Grok said,
00:51:22.400blah, blah, blah. And then I'm just like, oh no, like I'm going to start creating them to like,
00:51:27.300you know, what do we, what do we call that? Like self, um, what's that called? Self
00:51:32.620assemble or whatever. And like, start to take over. Cause they're going to like,
00:51:37.860start talking to each other, you know, like, Hey Grok, you know, here's what I'm going to tell
00:51:41.680chat GPT. So anyway, I feel like then, okay. So wait, I'm not making any sense. Cause I have so
00:51:48.960many thoughts in my head so i feel weird using both knowing that they are so at odds with each1.00
00:51:53.500other and then i'm like well how are these things really programmed um like what's their slant like
00:51:59.280what are they doing and then you know all the data centers and you know like how's that all
00:52:05.620gonna play into it and then did you guys hear ashley st claire yesterday no uh-huh all right
00:52:14.080i did you did yes so i don't know if sam altman's paying her this is not even my opinion i'm just
00:52:22.360being silly but i don't know actually musk is paying her monthly but that's because of their
00:52:30.120child yeah uh-huh so anyway it's just interesting i mean i don't have anything smart to say about
00:52:37.100AI obviously I just use it but it is just weird it's it's a whole weird thing so which one is
00:52:45.220your main squeeze and which one is your side piece chat GPT Chester is my main squeeze and
00:52:50.720Grok I know I'm sorry and Grok is just kind of fall short for me on the things that I need but
00:52:56.780maybe if I were more of like a science person or whatever maybe Grok is better for that maybe it's
00:53:02.300claude maybe i don't know who it is but chad gpt and i have a really good understanding chester is
00:53:07.780like my ride or die right now i use all a lot of them but he's my ride or die all right yeah i mean
00:53:14.440in the in the in the court of public opinion it seems elon won you know um because he made um
00:53:22.500scam almond aka some almond um look like a villain um which a lot of people are already
00:53:31.080looking at ai like villains so i don't know i certainly think elon was in the right and that's
00:53:38.920maybe different than what happens in the law for a variety of reasons like statute of limitations
00:53:43.720whatever else but apart from that i think elon is correct to say they shouldn't have been able to
00:53:48.760just take all his money and then just say now we're a for-profit company and we're going to do
00:53:53.080this. And so I would like to see Elon win the case or his appeal or whatever. And it's
00:54:02.480probably unlikely to happen because I think that just seems to be the way things go. When
00:54:07.260you have a huge company with billions of dollars, they would typically not lose a case that
00:54:11.440might actually put them out of business for whatever reason. That's just almost like follow
00:54:16.880the money. And maybe it is follow the money, but it doesn't seem to ever go that way. But
00:54:22.240But I think, you know, the same thing's true, I think, more broadly of AI.
00:54:25.580It's like all these things basically stole the entire Internet of information from all the authors of that information.
00:54:30.820They violated copyright left and right.
00:54:32.640They stole artwork, everything, books, you know, and it just seems like they're kind of getting away with it.
00:54:38.140I mean, there have been some settlements and some payments, but they're kind of like these piddly little things where it's like, OK, someone like Scott Adams could go collect his $200 or something for all his work being stolen.