Real Coffee with Scott Adams - The Scott Adams School - 05⧸25⧸26 Memorial Day w⧸ The Home Team

00:00:00.000 where's everyone good morning happy memorial day happy real day and i'll just say memorial day

00:00:07.600 it's memorial day um you guys including democrats yes democrats too um okay you guys we're so

00:00:17.660 excited you're here i saw somebody in the chat say the big question is did erica upgrade to

00:00:23.600 windows 11 i'll tell you after the sip is everybody ready are we ready i'm ready oh let

00:00:33.500 me just make sure the stream starts i see okay we're on okay let's go with the sip

00:00:41.280 i think it's time for the simultaneous sip because we've gone two days without it

00:00:45.900 you need a cup or a mug or a glass of tank or chalice or stein a canteen jug or flask a vessel

00:00:49.860 of any kind, fill it with your favorite liquid.

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00:00:59.560 the simultaneous sip.

00:01:01.440 Go.

00:01:06.140 Ah.

00:01:09.840 How did he know we didn't have a sip for two days?

00:01:13.860 That was amazing.

00:01:15.740 That was the...

00:01:17.120 It's the simulation talking to us.

00:01:19.280 Oh, my God.

00:01:20.540 There you go.

00:01:21.240 He said it at the same time.

00:01:24.380 So I want to first, we want to first recognize Memorial Day.

00:01:29.260 And, you know, that's why when they were like, happy Memorial Day, yes, we always say happy Memorial Day.

00:01:33.680 But the reality is Memorial Day of what it is. 0.95

00:01:37.840 You know, so I wrote it out so I don't sound like a total fool, okay, you guys?

00:01:41.700 So I just quickly want to say, before we get started today, we want to take a moment to recognize Memorial Day and what it truly means.

00:01:50.880 Today isn't simply the unofficial start of summer.

00:01:53.820 It's a day to honor and remember the men and women who gave their lives in service to this country and to recognize the families who carry that sacrifice with them every day.

00:02:04.280 Freedom has a cost, and there are people that we will never meet who paid it on our behalf.

00:02:10.700 To those families and to those we remember today, we offer our gratitude, our respect,

00:02:16.320 and our promise not to forget. Thank you. And please don't, you guys. I mean, it's true. Once

00:02:23.760 the ceremonies are over and they get handed that flag and, you know, they go back to their life

00:02:31.600 without their loved one who gave the ultimate sacrifice. And now that family has to continue

00:02:35.980 on with that ultimate sacrifice and you know kids are still playing their video games and people are

00:02:42.780 still on tick tock doing their thing and somebody's mother father son daughter cousin friend just died

00:02:50.220 so you could keep doing that so don't waste a day always be useful and never forget and always be

00:02:56.540 thankful and owen as our designated military man would you like to say something also

00:03:03.180 Well, I certainly have a lot of respect for everyone who serves and, you know, certainly those that made the ultimate sacrifice.

00:03:11.120 It's just, you know, it was an eye-opening thing for me going through the process of being in the military.

00:03:16.360 I was lucky never to be deployed, so I'm not a veteran and I don't claim to be.

00:03:20.580 But, you know, a lot of it was just taught me what they do and taught me the role they play and even just why we sometimes have to go to war.

00:03:30.540 And so it totally changed my perspective on it. And, you know, even just serving in my reserve unit with the people that I trained, you know, I had a lot of respect for them too. And, you know, one person in my unit died when I was there and they had a funeral for him. And, you know, it was a little bit of that for me. It wasn't a combat death, but it was just somebody had a heart attack.

00:03:52.180 and um you know i saw i saw what it meant to people i mean these people are really close

00:03:57.020 they're like a family and um you know the that my unit went to the persian gulf before i was there

00:04:03.600 and they went to iraq and afghanistan after i left and um you know i don't know what ultimately

00:04:09.480 happened to some of those people but um i certainly gained a lot of respect for what the military does

00:04:13.880 for us and i never forget that and certainly memorial day is one of the days that's meant to

00:04:19.080 help everybody remember that people are out there protecting us. They're out there keeping us safe.

00:04:24.060 They're out there keeping the people who want us dead. And there are people who want us dead

00:04:27.720 from doing that. And so I just really appreciate everything that the people in the military do for

00:04:33.960 us. Amen. Marcella? Sorry, I'm going to get emotional. But yeah, so just when you're out

00:04:44.040 there today remember them uh remember the soldiers that gave the ultimate sacrifice as we say

00:04:51.060 um they did it um with resolve without asking they did it for us um in being an immigrant and

00:05:01.680 having come to this country um you don't understand how how much freedoms you guys have and

00:05:08.240 and maybe some of you do, but they definitely, um, their sacrifice made this freedom possible

00:05:14.940 and I'm grateful for them. Oh, thank you. I know it's, it's tough. So I do want you to know,

00:05:21.780 I did some investigating in case you're going to barbecues, which you should be, if you can,

00:05:27.000 if it's not pouring where you are. Oh, don't eat Chuck's burgers. Um, but if you're going to have

00:05:35.240 hot dog and you're watching your protein it's 16 grams of protein so that's your useful memorial

00:05:41.720 day barbecue information 16 grams of protein in a hot dog who thought i just happened to

00:05:46.840 look and i was pleasantly surprised that was your useless information of the day it might depend on

00:05:52.440 the hot dog but okay well yes and i will say it's not like a little ballpark frank because size does

00:05:59.800 matter it's a little bit it's like this big it's like this one okay so it's a hot dog about where

00:06:06.600 are we going with this erica it's like not a little tiny ballpark frank it's a bigger

00:06:15.000 not but not like a big one is it i'm assuming these would be like 32 grams of protein

00:06:21.880 but this one's 16 just fyi i don't know why owen's laughing but what up i think a lot of

00:06:27.480 people know why i'm laughing erica i don't understand the girth yeah um i can see you

00:06:33.800 blushing from there through his picture yes okay so get your protein um okay so you guys so exciting

00:06:44.680 we have so many fun stories for you today but owen owen's gonna show me how much of a chance i have

00:06:53.080 of um having a robot clean my house and do all my domestic goddess duties owen so what's that

00:06:59.720 story and i'll put up a little picture while you tell it yeah well apparently there's a service

00:07:04.840 that is now deploying humanoid robots to clean people's houses and potentially undercutting

00:07:10.600 maid services and it's 150 bucks in san francisco so i'm guessing that's relatively cheap um i think

00:07:17.960 a lot of times you pay more than that for any sizable house to have people clean it but there's

00:07:22.680 this service called gatsby that uses humanoid robots and they clean floors countertops other

00:07:28.760 surfaces autonomously the price point they're saying is significantly lower than traditional

00:07:34.840 professional cleaning services their quote is we just made us history today gets we ran the first

00:07:39.800 ever consumer cleaning by human robot in the united states we picked someone random off our

00:07:44.040 san francisco wait list they booked a cleaning we delivered the robot and it cleaned their entire

00:07:48.280 apartment on its own no humans inside this is the first of its kind in the us and we are proud to be

00:07:52.280 the pioneers writing this line in the history books today so um one more step in terms of

00:07:59.400 both uh humanoid robots doing tasks but also potentially taking away jobs one more giant

00:08:06.200 leap for the trad wives good lord say which robots which type of robots they were using like which

00:08:12.680 company i don't remember i don't think it's said in the part that i took out the story but um you

00:08:19.880 know i think it was that one that has like the sort of circle head looking thing the figure yeah

00:08:25.640 probably um what if like your dog or cat gets in the way or what whatever there's so many what ifs

00:08:32.920 i don't want to what if it's a death they'll clean your dog too oh you're both the fittest

00:08:37.560 yeah survive now don't you think this is just me but i think if i saw that thing making my bed the

00:08:46.060 way i didn't want it made i'd be like what are you doing and you can't put that like that you

00:08:51.360 can't use that on that surface i don't know it's gonna take a long time but do you guys in the chat

00:08:57.320 want a robot cleaning your house would you hire one erica no no no i like to yell at people

00:09:05.260 I'm just kidding

00:09:06.640 You can yell at a robot

00:09:08.820 That's true

00:09:10.580 Actually I could start yelling at people

00:09:12.520 That would be fun

00:09:13.220 Would you think you had to clean your house

00:09:15.980 Before the robot comes

00:09:16.920 Yes I do have a friend that cleans

00:09:20.860 For me

00:09:21.600 I clean the whole house

00:09:25.020 Before she comes

00:09:25.900 But I'm not cleaning it

00:09:28.140 I'm just straightening it up

00:09:29.300 If I don't pick up

00:09:30.600 The more I do

00:09:33.340 The more she can do

00:09:34.480 i understand yeah i just think it's kind of a funny situation oh yeah my mom used to be like

00:09:40.280 hurry up clean up your room you know the cleaners are coming i'm like what okay just shut my door

00:09:47.780 was always like just shut my door she doesn't have to do my room marcella would you want one

00:09:54.320 oh the robot yeah definitely because i don't think i would have to clean for the robot because 1.00

00:09:59.220 they wouldn't gossip about me true like the cleaning ladies do or would it maybe i mean if 0.94

00:10:07.040 it would be different i mean the claude robots are like self-organizing and teaching each other 1.00

00:10:13.140 how to further advance they'd be like did you see marcella's place she made me clean so much

00:10:20.520 she flipped me off yeah i would definitely wait for the optimist so that elon musk is the person

00:10:25.860 spying on you instead of the chinese yeah good point oh can actually that was a perfect segue

00:10:32.980 owen you didn't even know it so i pulled a random clip from one of our favorites i would love to say

00:10:39.780 friend of the show palmer lucky um but listen to this do you make a good point ready i thought this

00:10:46.340 was interesting i think it's like a two-minute clip and then let's chitty chat it stop patenting

00:10:51.380 everything. Patents are Chinese instruction manuals. You're taking your most valuable stuff.

00:10:56.860 So the founding fathers never predicted a world where you would have a globalized economy where

00:11:01.620 the entire patent office could be downloaded every single morning and then ripped off and

00:11:06.340 then used to fight a war against you. The problem that we have right now is that Western companies

00:11:12.840 patent things so that they can trade temporary exclusivity on an idea in exchange for eventually

00:11:20.040 it enters the public domain. And all that really means in practice is that for 20 years or so

00:11:26.920 between when you file for a patent and when somebody could launch a product that is a ripoff,

00:11:31.540 it means China could just rip it off right away. And Western companies can only rip it off after

00:11:35.900 20 years. And then you repeat this cycle over and over again for every single generation.

00:11:41.840 And it's killing us. And so I don't hardly get patents anymore. There's a few things here and

00:11:47.720 there, mostly defensively, because unfortunately, our patent system allows people to sue you when

00:11:52.020 they think they're infringing. We need to really fundamentally revisit the patent system. And I'm

00:11:56.920 not just complaining here. I've got a possible solution. I think we need to massively expand

00:12:01.900 the national security patent process. You can obtain a classified patent. You can get a patent

00:12:07.660 on something that you are not allowed to disclose to anyone, but you still maintain the exclusivity

00:12:11.860 on those rights. We need to massively expand that program and also massively expand all the

00:12:17.420 categories of things that are covered by mandatory national security disclosure laws. During the

00:12:22.760 Cold War, a lot of sensors and microcomputer technology was covered by this because the

00:12:27.580 government said, oh my God, if the Russians get this, it's over. And we put in all the money,

00:12:32.840 we put in all the time, they're just going to be able to rip it off. If we let them rip all the

00:12:36.040 stuff without paying any of the money to get there, then all of their money will go way further

00:12:40.500 than us where we're doing the fundamentals of all of this. I think, for example, that a lot of the

00:12:44.980 things Google patents around artificial intelligence. They are of national security

00:12:49.120 importance. They should be allowed to get a patent, and it should absolutely not be disclosed

00:12:54.060 publicly. And you should have to be a US citizen to gain access to these patents. Maybe it's not

00:12:58.480 classified, right? We can't require security clearance for every engineer to run these

00:13:01.960 things. But I'm suggesting something where it's much broader, but the bar is lowered quite a bit.

00:13:07.840 And so you can imagine a world where you kind of maybe have to go to the Library of Congress to

00:13:13.440 access these things, or you have to use a cat card.

00:13:16.120 And people say, Palmer, the spies will get in,

00:13:18.380 the spies will get stuff.

00:13:19.480 Okay, fine.

00:13:20.620 Maybe we can make it where it's at least a little hard,

00:13:23.400 because right now, again,

00:13:24.720 they can go to the US Patent Office website

00:13:26.900 and download every single patent that Google and Apple

00:13:30.000 and everybody else put in every single morning.

00:13:31.820 We can at least try to do a little better than that.

00:13:33.640 Maybe I can't buy 20 years,

00:13:35.060 but maybe I can buy one, two, three.

00:13:38.360 If I could buy a year,

00:13:40.680 that would be enough to be worth the effort.

00:13:43.440 so interesting i love that guy he's he's great i'd like to think if i was a bajillionaire i would

00:13:50.880 look and dress just like palmer lucky he's so chill um so i mean you know all right so first

00:13:57.120 of all what i loved was there's a problem right that's a big problem but he's also giving you a

00:14:03.200 solution and that's my favorite type of person like i've always said like in any business i've

00:14:08.320 owned please if there's a problem come to me with a solution like don't just throw problems at me

00:14:13.040 tell me how we can fix it. So I love that kind of a thinker. Obviously, these guys are all

00:14:18.180 brilliant, but Marcella, holy cow. So what do you think about that? No, he's right. I mean,

00:14:25.260 they're able to get all this information. I'm sure there's classified patents, but from what

00:14:32.400 I gathered, this is not my area of law, but from what I gather from what he said right now is that

00:14:38.000 that classified patent section is like very nuanced is very narrow about what it covers so

00:14:47.100 it wouldn't cover everything that he would have to patent because the the government might not

00:14:52.320 consider that in need of a classification or be classified or confidential but i mean

00:14:58.260 they should all be confidential i am not understanding why um why certain certain

00:15:07.240 technological patterns can be read by anyone yeah in the world you know like we have in the court

00:15:14.440 system we have very few cases that can be read uh civil cases probate cases but then there's certain

00:15:21.240 other parameters that are put into it where you can't access the case and if you want to access

00:15:26.680 the case you have to actually go down to the court or you have to explain why you want it

00:15:32.760 or subpoena the documents for a specific reason so i think he's right but i mean

00:15:39.740 you're you're completely correct erica like he gives you a um he gives you a solution but is

00:15:46.900 that solution are we going to have congress create new law you know i think they should

00:15:53.120 absolutely i'm sure somebody's seen this clip and they should absolutely have him as an advisor on

00:16:00.680 this. He's got an amazing team of people that could all get on this. And it is crazy to think

00:16:09.460 that it's like Biden leaving all of our military equipment in Afghanistan. It's like, what are

00:16:16.480 you doing? So now you just gave all of our technology to the enemies. This is the same

00:16:21.620 thing. It's just another type of warfare, in my opinion. Owen, what do you think?

00:16:26.380 And the problem is a lot bigger than just patents. I mean, that is maybe an egregious example where they can just download all the plans and whatever specs are in there and copy them. But I think they've been doing this type of espionage for decades and we don't seem to do very much about it.

00:16:43.280 I've read stories in the past where they're saying other countries like Australia and Japan and others, they're at least trying to stop it. They're doing what they can to keep China from stealing their intellectual property. But the United States just doesn't seem to care and doesn't seem to do much of anything to stop it.

00:17:02.020 And then you have all the Chinese people that are coming here to university and getting into our graduate research programs, and they're exposed to all the things going on in our graduate research programs. 0.88

00:17:10.720 And then if you do business with China, a lot of times that basically they force you to do some kind of joint venture with them, and they force you to give all your intellectual property over to them as part of the deal. 0.99

00:17:22.500 So when Scott said China's not safe for business, I think he meant it, and I agree with him, that they're not playing fair.

00:17:29.100 there you know the they they come out with copied products all the time and um you know it is 0.72

00:17:37.340 something i mean i think i've heard similar stories on amazon where you know you'll launch

00:17:41.140 a new product and then days later or very soon after there'll be all these chinese knockoffs

00:17:45.740 and happen to scott's books yeah and and so it's it's a big problem everywhere and i think um 1.00

00:17:52.720 we should take it more seriously and we should take treat it like warfare because that's really

00:17:56.740 what it is i mean also isn't that kind of the gist of timu you know it's like timu is like

00:18:05.100 everybody's idea with like a little uh let's just zhuzh it down and make it a dollar um i i think

00:18:13.420 that's all i don't know if those are patents like i guess they're product patents but if you change

00:18:17.500 one little thing right then it's different i don't know um well i think the problem is that

00:18:23.180 China just doesn't respect the patents they you know they're I don't think they necessarily

00:18:27.380 grant or enforce them the same way there that they do here so even if they are violating the

00:18:34.000 patent it doesn't necessarily make them stop doing anything yeah and and I I worry about like all of 0.73

00:18:41.700 the um you know like you said the students that are here from China the the spies everything I

00:18:48.960 know i i think palmer lucky would be doing us a really really big favor if he could advance that

00:18:54.880 somehow to the white house to the right people i don't even know who it would be but the patent

00:19:00.080 department but something i thought that was so interesting to congress yeah oh god i mean like

00:19:06.400 when you think about to legislate new law but um president trump can pass an executive order as well

00:19:12.800 if you want to yeah come on president trump come on trumpy yeah i wonder if that that supreme court

00:19:20.980 ruling would would make it harder though because didn't they basically say that the executive

00:19:25.120 branch can't just make up their own stuff anymore they only can do what congress told them to do

00:19:29.320 so that may actually force or require i wouldn't say force but require congress to be the one that

00:19:35.960 would fix this yeah i don't know for sure i mean it may be that they've given explicit enough

00:19:41.360 instructions that the patent office could change things in a good way but you know i'm wondering

00:19:46.660 if that supreme court ruling might mean that a lot more things are really stuck in the legislative

00:19:51.020 branch for a solution yeah i mean eventually it will stop the executive order like most executive

00:19:58.060 orders but you know in the meantime it can help but you know what's interesting is that elon does

00:20:04.180 a lot of business in china which is the only one of the few companies american companies that does

00:20:09.680 do actual like has uh the gigafactory over in china yeah so you know it would be interesting

00:20:16.940 to see his perspective but i i think he's just like copying me i don't care i guess that's the

00:20:23.400 way i mean i guess he's probably so far ahead of the last thing he's doing

00:20:27.680 that he's just like go ahead by the time you do that i'm i'm way ahead of you but there is that

00:20:34.100 other side of the argument that it's like a lot of it's more about execution manufacturing

00:20:37.740 capability things like that and i think that's where elon has a lot of talent and that's really

00:20:41.860 what makes the difference for a lot of his products but i do think for a lot of people

00:20:46.600 who invent things you know they they want that protected and they want to be compensated for

00:20:50.820 what they invented and you know they don't want to just um release that information to the world

00:20:56.200 and the patent itself is supposed to be kind of a deal it's like okay i'm agreeing that i'm going

00:21:03.960 to give this technology to the world and anyone can do whatever they want with it in exchange for

00:21:09.400 having protection for 20 years and so you know if you don't respect that then you're basically just

00:21:15.080 asking them to give up their stuff for free and not giving them anything in return all right well

00:21:20.840 it's interesting um thank you Palmer Lucky you're a genius obviously um so yesterday Owen had his

00:21:29.920 after party show on saturday and then he had his subscriber spaces um yesterday and he was talking

00:21:36.080 about gad sad's book suicidal empathy which led into like other discussions and i was in there and

00:21:42.640 so we were you know i i think it's kind of cool to stay on this theme of suicidal empathy and one

00:21:48.960 thing i had brought up was you know about you know race like not being afraid to call out different

00:21:55.760 things and you know i i think i know what scott thinks about the whole situation as far as race

00:22:02.360 i think we're not like not like what you guys are thinking like the whole not this

00:22:07.160 not the scott was right about everything meme but he was but i mean he was but um i i found a

00:22:18.240 lesson from him and i just think it was really interesting and we miss him couldn't we all use

00:22:23.500 a whiteboard on Monday. I mean, this is going to be so good, you guys. So let's just start with

00:22:29.900 what Scott's opinion was about things like this and move forward accordingly. So this is going to

00:22:37.840 be sit back, relax, heat up your coffee and smoke a cigarette if you want to. It's going to be about

00:22:44.500 15 minutes of our beloved Scott. So we'll see you on the other side. I'm going to tell you where

00:22:51.740 things are headed. You ready? Whiteboard time. Well, I'm old enough to remember, as

00:23:03.620 many of you are as well. Let me give you a clearer look here. When, if you're talking

00:23:12.740 about discrimination, the biggest topic of discrimination was usually white versus

00:23:19.700 black. So there was a time when it was just a white versus black conversation. But as

00:23:25.380 you know, that was not good enough. And that eventually evolved into something called

00:23:30.140 intersectionality. Now, if you're not aware of this term, this is intersectionality means

00:23:36.540 that you might be discriminated against for more than one reason. For example, you could

00:23:42.960 be black, but also a lesbian. So that's the intersection. And that's important, because the 1.00

00:23:50.580 problems of just being black would be different from somebody who's black and LGBTQ. But let's

00:23:58.240 say you could throw disabled in there, you know, people who are differently abled. So you'd have a 0.55

00:24:02.200 number of categories, and you could be more than one, you could be several things, right? Now,

00:24:06.940 why is this better? Why is it better to look at intersectionality versus just to see things as

00:24:13.660 race? Well, I'll tell you. Your common sense is very clear on this, which is that it's not close

00:24:23.640 enough. That the people who have these unique problems have problems that are pretty unique,

00:24:29.420 Right? If you're Hispanic and LGBTQ and you've got a disability, your situation isn't quite like anybody else's.

00:24:41.820 Would you agree? You have some things in common, but your situation's different.

00:24:47.540 So it makes sense. I think everybody would agree. Left and right.

00:24:51.800 It makes more sense to get down to some granularity.

00:24:54.740 so suppose we wanted to

00:24:57.980 improve on this yet again

00:25:00.180 so just looking at black and white

00:25:04.220 it's too big a category

00:25:05.960 you can't do enough with it

00:25:07.400 go to a little more granularity 0.90

00:25:09.400 well you might be black and also this 0.90

00:25:12.400 or this and also that 0.99

00:25:14.320 that's better wouldn't you say

00:25:15.540 more granularity

00:25:17.240 if you're going to fix a problem

00:25:19.720 you want to understand it

00:25:21.000 as well as you can understand it

00:25:23.040 and this moves you closer to understanding.

00:25:26.420 So what would be the next logical place that this should go

00:25:30.540 if we continue to be rational?

00:25:41.460 People.

00:25:44.840 Or actually, person, because it's individuals.

00:25:50.140 Individuals.

00:25:53.040 Now, if you understood discrimination and everything else

00:26:03.420 in terms of individuals,

00:26:05.740 which is really where this was getting to,

00:26:08.380 it was getting closer to the individual,

00:26:10.300 but if we go all the way, now we can really do something. 0.95

00:26:13.620 Because if this is the problem, white versus black, 0.83

00:26:17.940 what are you going to do about it? 1.00

00:26:20.360 What's your plan to make that better?

00:26:21.960 Well, there's some things you can do, improving education, etc.,

00:26:25.660 but it doesn't seem to be working.

00:26:28.160 So then getting to more granular,

00:26:30.500 well, maybe we can do something if we understand it at this level,

00:26:33.860 but how about going further?

00:26:35.800 How about going all the way to the individual?

00:26:38.580 Because each of these individuals has unique problems,

00:26:41.240 and it's not just their color and their sexual preference

00:26:44.860 or anything like that.

00:26:46.040 They're just different people.

00:26:47.280 So how about creating a strategy that is the right strategy for each person,

00:26:54.840 which takes into account far more than the discrimination.

00:26:59.140 It takes into account where they live, how old they are,

00:27:03.320 what's their parent situation, is there a good school in your town,

00:27:07.220 what's your personality, what's your character,

00:27:11.280 what things do you need that you don't have.

00:27:14.100 These are all solvable problems.

00:27:15.860 If you give me an individual, they might not take my advice, but I could certainly tell them what to do.

00:27:23.500 I don't know how to solve these other things.

00:27:26.220 I don't know what I could do as an individual.

00:27:28.480 But if a person is in front of me and they're not succeeding in life and they want to know how, I could totally help that person.

00:27:39.260 So I would say that the left and the right were accidentally heading in the same direction. 0.54

00:27:44.180 which is the framing of white versus black

00:27:47.600 wasn't getting you enough, what do you do about it?

00:27:50.900 The instinct to go to the next level of detail

00:27:53.500 was the right instinct.

00:27:54.980 It's the right instinct.

00:27:56.340 It just doesn't go far enough.

00:27:58.240 You've got to go all the way to what makes every person unique,

00:28:01.200 and then you can solve their problem.

00:28:03.580 Now, here's the persuasion frame on this.

00:28:09.360 Do you notice that there's a whole lot

00:28:11.780 of making you think

00:28:13.740 past the sale in this, 0.99

00:28:15.660 especially the white-black

00:28:18.040 model, but also the

00:28:19.780 intersectionality model, they both have

00:28:21.680 the same characteristic.

00:28:23.480 The characteristic is

00:28:24.720 they ask you to accept

00:28:27.960 that this was the right way

00:28:29.800 to look at it in the first place.

00:28:32.300 If they're making you talk

00:28:33.780 about, if they're making you

00:28:35.780 talk about the difference between black and

00:28:37.780 white performance or outcomes,

00:28:40.200 then they've already made you

00:28:41.760 think passed the sale, that this was ever the right question in the first place.

00:28:47.240 You see that? So every time somebody gets you into a conversation of outcomes or differences

00:28:54.080 in the average white or average black, they're talking about somebody who doesn't exist. 0.52

00:28:59.620 There's no average white person. There's no average black person. There's no average person. 0.77

00:29:05.620 We're not just different on race, and we're not just different because we all have some

00:29:11.120 different intersectionality thing going on. We are infinitely different. We are infinitely

00:29:17.760 different. So if you accept any of these frames, you're accepting an absurdity that looking at

00:29:25.080 the average of white people and the average of black people tells you something you could or 0.73

00:29:29.540 should do something about. Do you know what I care about the average difference between any two 1.00

00:29:35.060 groups? Nothing. I don't care. I have zero interest in fixing this average. Now that makes me sound 0.68

00:29:44.680 like a terrible person, doesn't it? But the reason I have zero interest in this is that it's a trick

00:29:49.380 and it gives you no solution. It only gives you victimhood and transfer of money. It doesn't give

00:29:57.060 you a system to fix it. So you have a goal. It's a goal. We'd like, you know, different groups to

00:30:05.080 have similar outcomes. That's a good goal. But what's the system? The system you don't really

00:30:11.360 have. Let's say you go to the next level and you complicate it or go down to more granularity.

00:30:18.320 It's moving in the right direction, I think, but it still doesn't give you a system. What are you

00:30:23.120 going to do about it? All right? So you do have an Elbonian disabled bisexual. So? And

00:30:34.380 they have different outcomes than the Asian American non-binaries or something. So what 1.00

00:30:48.460 are you going to do with that? That makes sense. That isn't discriminatory. But let's

00:30:53.300 say you take it to the next level of individuals. So, all right, so individuals have different

00:30:59.760 outcomes. So, Scott, you know, you keep complaining about systems. What's your system just because

00:31:07.520 you divided it this way? Well, my system is sitting behind you, right there. Now, these

00:31:23.140 are two books that I wrote, but you wouldn't have to buy my books. These are both teaching

00:31:28.800 you how to develop a system for your own personal success. So if you divide it by individuals,

00:31:37.520 You don't just have a goal, but you have a system.

00:31:42.540 Oh, there are basically skill development books of all kinds.

00:31:50.600 There are probably 10 books that if you read all 10,

00:31:55.560 your odds of succeeding are close to 100%, right?

00:31:59.520 Unless you get sick or you have some terrible bad luck.

00:32:01.720 But if you just did the things that people who are successful advise you to do,

00:32:07.520 and it might not be my advice

00:32:09.300 I don't call my stuff advice

00:32:11.880 there's a reason for that

00:32:13.380 but you have so many different sources

00:32:16.580 for how to fix your individual problem

00:32:19.080 you also have an infinite number of mentors

00:32:23.700 that would be willing to help

00:32:25.880 what can a mentor do

00:32:28.320 if you're looking at the world as it's black versus white

00:32:31.400 what does a mentor do 0.92

00:32:33.260 it's hard to be a mentor in that world

00:32:36.260 and the same with intersectionality.

00:32:38.540 But the moment you say everybody's infinitely different

00:32:41.300 and my problem isn't like your problem

00:32:43.740 just because we're both Elbonians,

00:32:45.500 I have a different problem than you do.

00:32:47.640 As soon as you go to that, then the systems open up.

00:32:50.740 Oh, here's a system for building skills.

00:32:53.960 Here's a system for networking.

00:32:56.400 Here's a system for improving your education outcomes.

00:32:59.760 Here's a system for studying.

00:33:01.640 Here's a system for your fitness,

00:33:03.560 because that helps you in every way.

00:33:05.140 Here's a fitness for your diet.

00:33:07.420 Here's a fitness for your appearance.

00:33:10.500 So until you get to the individual level,

00:33:13.500 there's no system solution,

00:33:16.440 and this cries for a system solution.

00:33:21.880 And that, ladies and gentlemen,

00:33:24.040 is my whiteboard for today.

00:33:30.140 And I would further encourage you,

00:33:32.560 if you want this kind of frame to be the dominant one,

00:33:38.760 that when somebody tries to bait you into a conversation

00:33:41.960 about the average difference between black and white performance,

00:33:46.340 tell them you're not interested.

00:33:49.320 But tell them you are very interested in the success of any individual

00:33:53.620 for which you could probably help with some advice.

00:33:57.360 I mean, if the only thing you did is say,

00:33:59.320 hey, you need help succeeding? Yes, I do.

00:34:02.560 Well, I'm not much of a mentor, but I could recommend five books

00:34:06.840 that would really get you going.

00:34:09.800 So every one of you can be a mentor

00:34:11.580 just because you know of a book to recommend.

00:34:14.700 Probably more than one.

00:34:17.340 So do not buy into the frame of what the average,

00:34:20.900 non-existent, imaginary person is doing

00:34:23.380 compared to the average, non-existent other person is doing.

00:34:29.980 Just don't buy in.

00:34:31.640 Don't let them make you think past the sale.

00:34:34.540 Individuals are the only frame that's worth talking about.

00:34:37.620 Everything else is political manipulation.

00:34:44.040 Okay, good night.

00:34:45.180 See you guys later.

00:34:47.200 Mic drop.

00:34:48.660 That's so good.

00:34:50.360 And that's how I feel too.

00:34:52.960 Just everyone's their own self.

00:34:55.460 And I just, I always get nuts watching, you know, the news and politicians lumping people together. 0.70

00:35:03.480 Black people are this, white people are that.

00:35:06.840 No, you know, and I always, I don't know why I go right to Dave Rubin being like, don't lump me in with that whole crazy pride flag thing.

00:35:15.740 You know, like we're all just people.

00:35:17.920 So, Owen, I'm going to come to you first on this one.

00:35:21.280 Go ahead.

00:35:21.700 Give us your breakdown on that.

00:35:23.000 It's just perfect.

00:35:24.180 Yeah, well, I think it's great. I think the part that he might not have really been talked explicitly about is that I think there is a system behind the first two, but it's not to help people. It's to divide people. I think the intent of the system on the black versus white, I think, is just very clearly to divide and make those groups fight each other and not interact and be friendly and integrate and assimilate and have any kind of shared culture.

00:35:51.080 And I think the intersectionality part was more about basically scoring life on victim points, where if you have an extra thing you can throw in there, like, you know, I'm not just a woman. I'm black. I'm not just a woman in black. I'm a Muslim or, you know, whatever you want to throw in there.

00:36:09.560 and then they get to say oh well you can't talk about me because you know you don't know my lived

00:36:14.360 experience and so it's really just a way of trying to one-up people and it's this inverted moralism

00:36:21.560 which i think gad said also talks about in suicidal empathy where it's like you're you're elevating

00:36:26.440 someone based on their victimhood not based on their achievement or meritocracy or anything it's

00:36:31.400 just you're you know saying oh if you're the biggest victim then you're better than everybody

00:36:36.280 else and they're potentially an impressor because they didn't have your victimhood and it's

00:36:41.560 encouraging people to focus on how they're a victim and being powerless and it's just it's

00:36:45.720 the opposite of helping someone succeed so I think there is a system behind it it's just not a good

00:36:50.080 system and I think he's very much right that I think treating people as individuals is the best

00:36:56.860 way to go and as much as you can to personalize things to individual needs I've talked about that

00:37:02.580 recently with the education system where i think we should be having the goal which you know maybe

00:37:07.400 scott wouldn't like that word but i think we should be having the goal of getting every student

00:37:11.700 to their highest potential but that means treating everybody as an individual and saying okay if some

00:37:17.080 people are willing are able to go faster through the material we should put them through the

00:37:20.720 material faster and if other people need more time we give them more time and if other people

00:37:24.320 need a different way to learn because some people are more auditory some people are more visual some

00:37:28.680 people are more kinesthetic. And if we can tailor those approaches, I think we could have much

00:37:33.100 better outcomes for each individual. And it would probably also mean we'd have a better outcome

00:37:37.460 overall. But if you start dividing people into groups, it does the opposite. And I have an

00:37:43.040 example of that in my local school district where they said, oh, we're going to get rid of the

00:37:47.040 honors track because not enough minorities were in it. And it's like totally backwards. It's like,

00:37:53.060 okay, you're basically taking away the opportunity for those minorities that were in there

00:37:56.920 to to get be in the honors track and you're taking it away from everyone else too you're

00:38:02.720 basically just saying everybody's down at the lower level now and they claimed oh you can still

00:38:07.420 get honors credit but you have to do like this extra credit stuff on the side but you know

00:38:10.660 colleges would know that's not the same thing as being in the honors track because what being in

00:38:14.000 the honors track does mean you go like 1.5 times as fast or twice as fast through the material

00:38:18.320 so they know that those students that are in the honors track are much at a much higher level in

00:38:23.720 terms of being college prepared and able than other people and they judge schools and students

00:38:29.500 accordingly and that is suicidal empathy yeah yeah it is it is and um that lasted exactly one

00:38:36.260 year until the parents realized how terrible it was and that they were ruining college chances

00:38:40.220 for everyone and they reversed it but they tried it and it was all just based on this thing like

00:38:45.320 we're trying to make it fair for everybody and we don't want to you know discriminate but basically

00:38:49.520 they're just saying, we don't want to treat anyone differently because they have higher

00:38:54.380 intelligence or high, you know, an ability to learn faster or a harder work ethic. I mean,

00:38:58.160 there could be a lot of things in there as far as how someone qualifies for that honors track,

00:39:02.620 but they're basically just saying, we're going to make everybody the same. And that means make

00:39:07.280 everybody, you know, the lowest common denominator and just treat everybody as if they were the same,

00:39:12.020 even if they're not. And so I think it's again, destructive and it just leads to worse outcomes

00:39:16.960 overall. And so I'm, I'm, you know, I'm very much in agreement with what Scott was saying that I

00:39:21.420 think the best solution in most cases is to treat people as individuals. And, um, you know, I think

00:39:27.300 the underlying thing that he didn't really say is that it also means you kind of treat everybody the

00:39:31.140 same in a certain way where it's like, you don't, you know, you don't treat someone different

00:39:35.060 because of their color of their skin or because of their gender or because of their disabilities

00:39:39.480 or abilities or whatever. It's like, you're, you're treating everyone like they are an

00:39:43.780 individual. Everyone is an individual and it's a lot more unifying to say everyone's unique

00:39:49.020 and we're also, you know, the same in a lot of ways. And so I think it's a more unifying system

00:39:55.380 as well. I don't know if anyone, I don't even know if this is a good example, but this is

00:40:00.460 in my head. Do you guys remember the first time maybe you felt like people were being rewarded

00:40:09.460 for being in groups. And for me, if anyone's around my age, which do I have to say it? No.

00:40:16.820 You were watching Oprah every day, right? And so you would see Oprah rewarding particular groups

00:40:24.440 of people, whether they were poor or they were teachers who didn't have a big income or whatever.

00:40:32.540 And so I loved watching. We all loved Oprah. She was like the thing. And then I started realizing

00:40:38.580 like, wow, nowhere ever in her shows does just some average person win a reward ever. It was

00:40:48.140 always like some kind of victimized group. And like in theory, I was like, oh, I get it. But

00:40:53.760 then I was also like, well, what are the people who like show up every day, try to build futures

00:41:00.020 for people and employ people and like they do right by their bosses and whatever. They're so

00:41:06.280 passed over. And I was like, doesn't everyone just kind of want to be like that contributing

00:41:11.180 member of society? But I just clearly remember the Oprah Winfrey show being like, and not that

00:41:16.780 like you get a car and you get a car, but it was always like just everybody with a victim story.

00:41:23.080 And the more stories and the worse it was, like the more attention and, and glorification they

00:41:29.300 got. And then every show just, you know, all the other shows were the same way. And I was just like,

00:41:34.340 well, all right. So for everyone else, minding your business, doing your thing and doing the

00:41:39.680 right thing and paying your taxes and just plugging along without complaining, sorry,

00:41:44.660 you don't qualify for anything exciting. But Marcella, so how do you see this, especially

00:41:50.960 as somebody who came from another country here? And I always talk about so amazing how

00:41:57.460 you speak all these languages. This was not your first language or where you were born,

00:42:02.720 but you've achieved so much and you've become an attorney and you're self-sufficient and you're

00:42:09.880 not a victim. You are. And you could act like a victim if you wanted to, but why would you, right?

00:42:16.660 You know, I never believed in collectivism. I always believed in the individual. My father

00:42:23.900 was always a person that taught us that each of us was the best at what we could be. If you were

00:42:32.020 a janitor, if you were an engineer, that you had to be the best at whatever the thing that you did

00:42:39.480 or you worked for. When I first came to this country, it was a shock to me that I was expecting

00:42:49.680 that everybody spoke English. No one at the district I went to, I moved to California,

00:42:56.320 spoke English. They all spoke Spanish. And I was just, I went, I was very distraught. I went home

00:43:02.680 and I told my mom, oh my God, these people speak Spanish and they speak it. They don't speak well 1.00

00:43:08.160 either. So I was so shocked. Eventually I went to a different school where they actually spoke

00:43:13.600 English. This was a general public school, but at the public school where I was put in,

00:43:20.540 the English as a second language, ESL, they had us in the back of the room.

00:43:28.520 The teacher at that time, they decided that all ESL students, English learners, had to first learn

00:43:35.760 their own language because some of those students that would come in did not even know how to read

00:43:42.620 their own language. So they had us go in the back of the room to learn our own language. Of course,

00:43:47.920 i knew spanish so the the lady was like i don't know what you're doing here but um eventually i 0.76

00:43:55.220 spoke to that teacher uh my my main teacher and i told her i'm not like them you got to put me up

00:44:02.040 there or i'm leaving or whatever you know i was like fourth grade or some fifth grade or something

00:44:08.220 and she was like oh my gosh what's going on and eventually they realized that i i didn't

00:44:16.860 i didn't go past the sale like i i didn't i wasn't sold on your collective you're part of esl

00:44:25.280 you're gonna be here because that's what that's what we think that's what that label is what we

00:44:31.760 put on you so the labels that you talk about in phase one and phase two that scott talked about

00:44:38.060 are labels that hurt people that are from different countries, that hurt people that are

00:44:47.780 minorities. They hurt them the most than the majority because most of those kids that I went

00:44:55.980 to ESL with, they eventually never amounted to anything. They just stayed in ESL. And I wasn't

00:45:04.120 going to be somebody told what to do. I was telling them what I could do. And I was reading

00:45:10.720 at a higher level, whatever, different schooling, different background. But the point is that Scott

00:45:16.180 makes is that it should always be based on the individual. You shouldn't be basing anything on

00:45:25.460 a collective of this is how they are. And on top of that, those people, the label, the collective,

00:45:34.120 or the victimization of these individuals, like Erica was talking about, Oprah. Those are the

00:45:42.400 ones that profit from that. The people within those classes, within those labels, do not profit

00:45:48.240 from it. They are just given this label. They're told they're never going to amount to anything.

00:45:53.580 Later on, I became a teacher for like two seconds. And all my students, when I was there,

00:45:59.780 I told them all of them could achieve anything they put their mind to as long as they worked hard and they had systems versus goals.

00:46:09.420 And they were just amazed. They were so happy to be in my class and they were so like nobody's ever told them that.

00:46:18.760 And I found it to be sad because I was teaching this one class that I taught was a high school class.

00:46:25.000 so they were freshmen sophomore they've never heard of such a thing and i was just like you

00:46:32.640 know a lot of the things we talked about owen talked about the education system and getting

00:46:36.960 rid of you know gate and all the um genius uh um labels or anything like that because there's not

00:46:45.760 enough minorities that's that's that's like saying that minorities cannot achieve that 0.56

00:46:51.640 right you know so that in itself is racist in my mind like black people can't get id to vote 0.85

00:46:57.580 and actually right or women married women oh yeah right right right right because we're too busy 0.57

00:47:03.620 baking yeah we're barefoot and baking all the time um magi you were so funny on x the other day

00:47:11.480 somebody really got mad that i said that minorities you know that that is such a such bs that people

00:47:18.340 can't get an id because he was having an issue with his wife and i'm like listen like stop 0.98

00:47:24.500 figure it out with your wife but it's it's an absolute ridiculous statement to just say

00:47:29.540 an entire group of people can't do something like how disgusting um so the only question i have like

00:47:37.540 about so scott's lesson on this is when i do see these um i don't know why i can never remember

00:47:45.540 what they call these things these take teen takeovers that is a group of people so it's a

00:47:52.580 group of you know um 99 it's black culture for some reason that this is happening with so how do

00:48:02.660 i owen reconcile that yes there's like this group of people doing this consistently over and over 0.92

00:48:09.780 and over and over and over again and ruining businesses and this and that it seems to be

00:48:14.340 Because they're given that label.

00:48:16.040 That's the same thing with the high school students that I was teaching.

00:48:18.600 Is that why they're doing it?

00:48:20.440 Well, at least the high school students, at least when I was in high school and I had these teen takeovers, and lots of them were my friends, they were just like, this is what we're supposed to do.

00:48:32.640 We're no good.

00:48:34.360 We're just like, this is what we do, and we don't question it.

00:48:38.500 And a lot of them were part of gangs and things like that.

00:48:41.540 So that's just my perspective from, from knowing some of them.

00:48:45.120 Go ahead, Alan.

00:48:46.120 Yeah. I mean, I, the way I would respond to that is that again,

00:48:49.080 if you treat people like individuals,

00:48:50.560 that means you apply the rules the same way to them you would to anyone else.

00:48:54.880 And so if they're committing crimes, if they're causing disruption,

00:48:58.680 if they're violating the law in some way,

00:49:00.960 then they should have the consequences for that. 1.00

00:49:03.220 And it shouldn't be any different because they're black, right. 1.00

00:49:06.920 Or Hispanic or any other group that would do that. 0.99

00:49:09.160 Well, didn't Scott say also that there are just differences between us and cultures? I mean, there just are. I mean, look, I don't see them. It's because I don't see groups of black people. I always see people like, where's the white person? I'm like, where's the white person in your group? You're different. It's different things.

00:49:38.160 So like, stop calling us racist when I don't see white people like in your big flock of

00:49:43.120 people either.

00:49:43.940 It's not to say that, you know, we don't have black and white friends, but don't like

00:49:49.020 point a finger when three more are pointing back at you.

00:49:52.680 So yeah, I just, I, what I, what I'm getting at is that, you know, most of what Scott was

00:49:57.280 focusing on was how to, how to be successful.

00:49:59.460 And I think that's the right frame, frankly, because even, even in that situation, if you

00:50:04.100 worked with some of those individuals and tried to help them be more successful, they

00:50:07.900 would be less likely to be out in the street doing a teen takeover but I think to me you can

00:50:13.540 turn that same thing around and say we should also treat people as individuals if they're committing

00:50:18.180 crimes or if they're doing anything that is violating the law and I think that also is part

00:50:24.000 of a solution or part of a system that works because you know unfortunately right now we do

00:50:29.160 have people giving different sentences to people based on their race or based on their gender or

00:50:34.720 based on whatever. And that really shouldn't happen. It should be, we're all equal under

00:50:39.220 the law and you don't get any special dispensation because you just, you know, have a different

00:50:45.360 skin color or you have a different culture or whatever. It's like, no, you still need 0.94

00:50:49.500 to follow the law. Under the law, a hundred percent. But what I get concerned about is

00:50:56.560 the suicidal empathy of not calling out that there's a problem, you know? So like, I feel

00:51:02.940 Like, you know, if we just focus on, well, individually, yes, under the law, like if

00:51:07.520 people get arrested.

00:51:08.540 I mean, they have no fathers.

00:51:11.420 Some of them don't have a father or their mothers.

00:51:15.640 Like a lot of the kids I taught had guardians.

00:51:19.580 Their grandparents were the ones racing them because their parents had gotten into drugs.

00:51:25.840 And this is white kids, black kids, Hispanic kids.

00:51:29.960 It didn't matter the color.

00:51:31.380 is just the area where I worked at was, you know, the inner city. So a lot of the grandparents had

00:51:38.160 to take care of these kids. And you know, when you're a grandparent, you're older, you're not

00:51:43.060 as able to move around and tell, you know, your grandkid not to go into a street takeover. But a

00:51:50.200 lot of them are just, to me, the issue would be parents not being there for these kids, you know,

00:51:57.780 Possibly. And it could also just be kids doing what the rest of the group is doing so they feel like they can fit in. But that's a, I feel like somewhat of a collective problem within black culture. And I'm allowed to say that even though I'm not black, I'm observing things. So, you know, whatever.

00:52:16.080 but i i just wish that there was a way to call things out to just tamp it down and literally

00:52:23.740 try to find a resolution for people like marcella said you can be anything you want to be if you

00:52:28.920 apply yourself you know they need people separating them from like this crazy culture and be like is

00:52:36.000 this what you want for your life you know but i don't know how you do it like do we need to get

00:52:39.900 more like big brother, big sister YMCA programs, you know, mentors. So I don't know. I would love

00:52:47.500 to think that there's a way through this because I've seen, you know, we've all seen lots of like,

00:52:52.760 you know, the home life for a lot of these people can be tragic. I don't know. I just,

00:52:58.300 I just think that I don't want to stay quiet about very obvious things at the detriment of our

00:53:04.960 country and you know there's people that can't just go live freely right now because these types

00:53:11.440 of things will happen and then if you call it out you're going to be called names like i don't know

00:53:16.020 yeah yeah i just i would just say within what scott was talking about i would say that's maybe

00:53:20.680 more of a symptom of that first frame you know black versus white or you know different groups

00:53:25.280 kind of pitted against each other and i think if you can move more to that individual frame

00:53:29.840 that kind of falls apart because then people aren't going to say oh i want to go do a teen

00:53:33.680 take over why why why would i do that like you know and it why not i i think if if you get to

00:53:40.760 the point where you think of everyone as uniquely you know everyone has their own problems everyone

00:53:45.040 has their own strengths everyone has their own abilities and you just need to try and optimize

00:53:49.360 the outcome for each one of those people and then that leads you towards the solution as opposed to 0.99

00:53:55.940 just saying oh it's a problem in black culture and you know black people go fix it because that's not

00:54:01.020 how it's going to get solved i don't think i mean i think it's more giving people a path that they 0.98

00:54:05.900 can succeed so maybe there are some other solutions like better school choice and other things to

00:54:10.720 allow people to get on a better path um and certainly i would say in this country what's

00:54:16.340 that what's better than this country it's like the kids can't do it on their own if they don't have

00:54:22.640 the parents leading the way i i don't know it's just frustrating and it's one of the reasons why

00:54:29.540 saw being a teacher is that you're taught not to be uh strict in class so we would have teenage

00:54:37.460 takeovers in the classroom like they would just go crazy and do whatever to these teachers and

00:54:42.980 i was like nope nope i don't you hear me speak spanish that means you're not you're all gonna

00:54:49.460 be staying for lunch and you're gonna be here forever i'm gonna have you do a test so the

00:54:54.980 the issue is that no adult puts a limit to them like when i was talking about the law applying

00:55:02.420 to them and all that it seems to me that they just you know they just want to have fun and do

00:55:07.360 whatever they want to do and there's no adult supervision at all and that's what really a

00:55:14.220 teen takeover is they don't have parents their grandparents whoever's watching them doesn't

00:55:18.640 have the power to tell them what to do they've never heard somebody say no to them and uh yeah

00:55:25.720 just i mean a lot of mentors get beat up by their kids too it's insane it's insane yes everybody

00:55:32.480 lost grandparents too king randall is being mentioned that's one person that's making a

00:55:38.980 difference there's other people making a difference but it really why don't we all try to do that if

00:55:44.820 you're somewhere where you can mentor people, do it, you know, find, find a way to, to help. I mean,

00:55:51.160 we can watch and complain, but can we step in? I have lots of friends that really mentor people

00:55:57.460 everywhere. Oh my God. But you know, if you can, that's a really great way of being useful. I mean,

00:56:03.900 I have, I have one friend I'm thinking of in particular, and he mentors his nieces and nephews.

00:56:09.580 They're great kids, but he's there as like an extra mentor to just be like, listen, you know,

00:56:14.820 you see what happened there you know they talk it through you know you don't want to do that you

00:56:18.940 want to respect this you you know blah blah blah blah and i don't think there's enough of that i

00:56:23.280 mean he he's like really teaching like maybe like what our parents would have taught and i think

00:56:28.460 that's missing but i could go on about this forever i think i think parenting i think parenting has

00:56:34.880 gone downhill yeah across the board and i'm not talking about any particular group i mean i know

00:56:40.300 there are problems in particular groups that might be more prevalent than others but I'm saying like

00:56:45.360 you know the I think parents used to be a lot more involved with their kids in that sort of

00:56:50.280 mentoring thing teaching them lessons teaching how to do things I felt like I was a lot more on my

00:56:56.300 own you know because my dad was really busy you would travel for work and things and I did a lot

00:57:00.640 of that too so maybe my kids feel the same way but you know I did make an effort to like counsel

00:57:07.100 and coach my kids and talk them off the ledge if it sounded like they were about to do something

00:57:10.880 bad and um you know correct them when it was necessary certainly too and i do think that

00:57:18.040 both mothers and fathers are important in that and they both have a role to play and in no matter

00:57:23.680 whether it's a girl or a boy and um i think it's just a really important role that i think people

00:57:29.340 have kind of forgotten about and you know that there's the opposite part where people say oh

00:57:34.240 now we have these helicopter parents and like structured activities and some of that might be

00:57:38.960 true too and maybe that's a problem in itself too that people don't have enough time to do free play

00:57:43.380 and some of the other things that I did when I was a kid but I still think to me a lot of it is that

00:57:49.080 when a kid is in trouble like that in my experience it means their parent probably isn't involved and

00:57:55.480 and it may not be you know an intentional thing it may just be that they are you know a single

00:58:00.580 parent and they're working all the time and they can't. But if there was some system we could put

00:58:04.840 in place to fix that or to help with that, I think it would potentially make a big difference. And if

00:58:09.880 more mothers and fathers stayed together to raise their kids, I think it would make a big difference.

00:58:15.120 Take the phones away from your kids. Take the iPads away from your kids. Let them get creative.

00:58:19.560 Let them read a book. Talk to them. How about talk to them? How about no phones at the dinner table?

00:58:24.540 If I go to a restaurant, I mean, I saw a father who, it was clear that he had, it was like his

00:58:30.320 time with the son. Like you could just tell he was like a single dad type of thing. They sat at

00:58:35.240 the table right near me, each one of them on their phone. They did not say a word to each other. The

00:58:40.580 kid was probably nine and then there's the dad. And I'm like, what do you, like, this is such a

00:58:45.620 wasted opportunity. So parents do need to step up and, and grandparents and aunts and uncles and

00:58:51.640 friends and cousins, everybody should just really do their best to be useful because this generation, 0.99

00:58:59.480 like the under 30 generation is running amok. So if you can help mentor when you can, do it. 1.00

00:59:05.980 It doesn't have to be an official capacity either. It could just be like a situational

00:59:09.380 moment where you could just be like, hey, like pull the person aside and be like,

00:59:12.980 I just want to talk to you about what just happened here. Something like that. I don't

00:59:16.460 know. It could just be one little thing. All right. So we're out of time. You guys, this day

00:59:22.400 flew by. It was so good seeing all your faces this Monday morning. I'm going back to bed. I'm

00:59:29.200 kidding. No, I'm not. But we will be back tomorrow. And why do I keep forgetting the date? It is,

00:59:37.960 Oh, we have a special guest on Wednesday.

00:59:42.020 Dr. Drew will be here with us for the hour.

00:59:46.160 So it's official.

00:59:47.140 I love Dr. Drew.

00:59:48.480 Right?

00:59:49.420 Since Loveline.

00:59:51.080 Oh, heck yeah.

00:59:52.320 Loveline with Adam Carolla.

00:59:54.800 Yep.

00:59:55.140 I wasn't supposed to listen to it, but I did.

00:59:59.000 I'm old enough for Dr. Ruth.

01:00:00.980 Remember Dr. Ruth?

01:00:03.040 Dr. Ruth Westheimer.

01:00:05.820 She was adorable.

01:00:07.300 Adorable. 1.00

01:00:07.960 and kinky. She was like four feet. All right. So we will be back tomorrow, you guys. Enjoy the 1.00

01:00:19.960 rest of your day. Let's be useful. And you know what? I am going to do better in taking the time

01:00:26.960 to maybe gently pull somebody aside and maybe give them a, hey, unsolicited advice. So maybe

01:00:34.820 we can all just kind of be like mentors for, for anyone that, you know, is younger that might need

01:00:40.000 a little push in the right direction. What do you think, Owen and Marcel, a good idea?

01:00:44.740 Yeah. I mean, I think it's, it's better if someone wants the help, because that's, I think,

01:00:49.720 one of the reasons why Scott said he never gives advice is that giving someone unsolicited advice

01:00:54.420 doesn't work very well, because then if they don't want it, they're not going to be listening

01:00:57.380 and they're not going to do anything. But I think if you can find a place where someone's receptive

01:01:01.060 and they're looking for help, and maybe you ask them, hey, do you want help with this? And they

01:01:04.320 say yes that's a great opening and then if you can develop that mentoring relationship I think a lot

01:01:09.540 of kids would appreciate it I think I'm gonna go with the hey come here one second I just want to

01:01:14.280 let you know a little observation I made and just kind of because no kid really wants it maybe they

01:01:20.640 never heard yet so I mean be like oh yeah but it's good to to give them your information that

01:01:30.560 they would never have heard it otherwise you know i agree let's do it you guys do it at your leisure

01:01:36.040 and your yeah do it at your leisure do it at whatever level you're comfortable but i think

01:01:41.520 we should do it all right so we'll be back tomorrow we'll be working on the show for tomorrow

01:01:46.660 and um we'd like to thank scott and shelly we miss you so much um for allowing us to keep the

01:01:53.080 show going and um marcella owen and i uh will be back tomorrow morning and you guys a closing sip

01:02:00.140 to our beloved Scott. I loved having

01:02:02.100 a whiteboard lesson today.

01:02:05.100 Tomorrow,

01:02:06.120 we will be useful once again.

01:02:08.220 Okay, guys. A closing sip to Scott.

01:02:10.920 To Scott. Be useful.

01:02:13.020 Don't forget your

01:02:13.920 Memorial Day

01:02:15.140 thanking people. Okay.

01:02:18.200 Love you. Bye.

01:02:19.880 Bye.

01:02:21.640 Mindy! Happy birthday, Mindy!

01:02:24.400 Oh my god, I almost forgot it's Mindy's

01:02:26.400 birthday. Mindy!

01:02:27.800 She's coming home from a cruise. 0.73

01:02:29.280 happy birthday. Happy birthday. Love you. Okay.

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