Real Coffee with Scott Adams - May 27, 2026


The Scott Adams School - 05⧸27⧸26 DR. DREW!! Guest Professor


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Dr. Drew's first appearance on The Scott Adams School, in which he explains why coffee is even better than you thought, and why you should be drinking more of it. Plus, Dr. Drew explains why you shouldn t be chasing cocaine after the first hit.

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00:00:30.000 you guys welcome everybody this is the perfect uh dr drew first appearance on the scott adams
00:00:39.060 school you have no idea it took a village and here we are look at dr drew so you guys welcome
00:00:47.780 to the scott adams school we know we're late but we've technically been live and reminiscent of
00:00:53.780 Scott, there were technical glitches, needless to say. Right, Dr. Drew? It was fun.
00:00:59.420 And we patched things together. We're half on the phone, half on Rumble Studio,
00:01:06.800 half going out on the international web. It's great. We made it work.
00:01:12.160 We did it. We did it. So just so you guys know, I can hear Dr. Drew in my ears. So can Owen.
00:01:18.620 but Dr. Drew, his hearing capacity through Rumble Studio wasn't working. So he's listening to me
00:01:27.600 on my phone where I have conferenced in Owen. So he's going to hear us through his earbuds in the
00:01:34.020 phone. But listen, it's the dream. We're doing it. So we're going to take a deep breath. We're
00:01:40.020 going to have a simultaneous sip, and let's do it. Because we've learned that coffee is even
00:01:48.480 healthier than we thought. How about that, huh? Yes, the recent science, New York Times reports,
00:01:56.060 says that coffee is really, really good for you. So not only do we have the delight of the
00:02:03.000 simultaneous sip, but we're all going to be healthier in a moment, those of us having coffee.
00:02:07.680 And all you need to participate is a cup or a mug or a glass of tank or gels or stein, a canteen jug or flask, a vessel of any kind.
00:02:16.180 Fill it with your favorite liquid.
00:02:18.060 I like coffee, because it's so healthy.
00:02:21.260 And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine to the end of the day, the thing that makes everything better, the simultaneous sip.
00:02:27.680 Go.
00:02:27.960 yes science confirmed i feel healthier don't you i think you do
00:02:43.420 oh and we have a doctor in the house about feeling healthier so
00:02:48.680 do you feel healthier dr drew oh yeah coffee i i've been uh watching the literature on coffee
00:02:55.120 for 30 years because i'm a big coffee drinker and it only gets better looks like a healthier
00:03:00.000 and healthier move and i want to thank my wife for bailing us out this morning you got to meet
00:03:03.840 her a little bit she produces this whole studio and she's the one that got us to this point where
00:03:09.840 we could actually do this in about three minutes and i so thank you for that but i want to i want
00:03:14.320 to talk about something real quick because scott always talked about dopamine and the dopamine hit
00:03:19.520 can i start with that please so people have grave misconceptions about the the dopaminergic system
00:03:27.360 in the brain like almost everybody and i want i want to clarify this and this is not by way of
00:03:32.960 being critical because everybody has this misconception the brain has two systems that
00:03:37.680 are completely separate a liking system and a wanting system okay the liking system is primarily
00:03:45.200 the endorphin system we like it it's yummy we get rewarded it's where the opioids work it's where
00:03:50.720 the endorphins work and it secondarily goes into the dopaminergic system but the dopaminergic
00:03:56.560 system is the wanting system and what addiction is is a usurpation of the wanting system so that
00:04:03.760 even when you don't like the thing you're wanting you keep wanting it cocaine is the crack is the
00:04:08.640 ultimate sort of example that people go psychotic they hate it and they just keep doing it until they
00:04:14.560 you know end up you know doing crazy things but they don't like it anymore they don't like it
00:04:20.000 after the first hit they only like the first hit and they know they're not going to like it after
00:04:24.800 the second third fourth hit and yet they the one thing they'll describe it as chasing you know
00:04:29.680 chasing that high you know they're not going to get back to that they've tried it a million times
00:04:33.760 but the dopamine system is the part of the brain says do that again and you don't feel
00:04:39.120 anything else except a motivational state do that again do that again but that can be healthy too
00:04:46.480 right uh well it's of course it's where you know survival and reproduction and eating and going to
00:04:54.800 work and doing doing all the things that are priorities in life you need that dopaminergic
00:04:59.280 system creating the motivational states people don't talk sky used to talk about motivational
00:05:04.000 states. One of the few people that would talk about that, but motivation is a key thing in
00:05:08.600 humans. And by the way, something that, you know, Corolla and I always say, people that are left
00:05:14.560 leaning have completely left out of the equation of policy. It's like they don't understand human
00:05:20.340 motivation. And the other side is saying, no, let's create policies that motivate people to
00:05:24.740 do the right thing. No, no, no, no, no. That's a motivation. You're a tabula rasa. It's only what
00:05:30.500 society puts in that matters which is all bs so so i am chasing some dopamine today that is for
00:05:41.340 sure we we do we do so much coffee news um on this program which you know scott always did
00:05:47.160 so you know we're like all right let's keep it going and dr jew do i have to take the creamer
00:05:52.460 out of my coffee to get the benefit of coffee no no there is some thought of that but no i don't
00:05:57.880 I don't believe that. And, and by creamer, I hope you're not using all that,
00:06:01.880 you know, stuff, that crazy, you know, coffee mate and stuff like that.
00:06:07.020 I used to use coffee mate.
00:06:10.120 And that's the only reason I drank coffee when I started like in my forties.
00:06:13.680 Cause I'm like, Ooh, this is good. And then I've now switched to Chobani.
00:06:18.980 So that's like a regular like cream, but it has flavor,
00:06:23.840 but it's like Chobani is more natural.
00:06:25.960 okay because most of those coffee additives are sugar corn syrup god knows what else
00:06:33.540 um i remember i was in medical school they were they were you know saying hey don't need your
00:06:39.040 diabetics use this stuff they don't realize how much sugar is in it yes for sure owen puts all
00:06:44.400 sorts of stuff in his coffee he's my coffee hero tell dr drew about your coffee i i put in l-theanine
00:06:50.940 and cinnamon and creatine approve of all of it i i take i take theanine almost every day uh and i
00:07:01.280 take creatine every day and the cinnamon i get i get that that's a good one nice additive well done
00:07:07.140 yeah i mean i think from what i understand the l-theanine is supposedly something that'll kind
00:07:11.800 of even out the caffeine like it'll not make it yeah and peaks yeah exactly and that's the reason
00:07:17.960 I don't take it every day. I kind of like the high. If you need the spike, I suppose it's good
00:07:24.300 to leave it out. And then creatine is kind of unrelated to the coffee. It's just healthy for
00:07:29.080 you. I think that's the one that has like the most solid research that almost everybody should
00:07:33.220 rather be taking creatine. All right. So what does it do, Owen? Is it good for women? I mean,
00:07:37.720 Dr. Drew could probably tell you better than me, but I think from my understanding, it's good for
00:07:40.900 muscles. It's good for the brain. It's all everything. Exactly. Exactly. Muscle and brain
00:07:44.680 and aging uh so but the controversy is how much and i'm not clear on that yet how much do you take
00:07:51.420 i think it's half a teaspoon each time but i might do it a couple times a day so maybe a
00:07:57.200 teaspoon yeah i mean it might be like five grams but i know for the brain effects they tell you
00:08:03.960 you should have like 10 or 20 or something more than that yeah they get up towards 20 i take 10
00:08:08.980 i i don't know about 20 or maybe i'm taking i think i take i take i actually take the pills
00:08:13.420 because it's more, I don't know, even the powder.
00:08:17.140 I like the powders, but they really stir me up a little bit.
00:08:20.800 Okay, now we have a question happening in the chat.
00:08:24.020 What about decaf coffee?
00:08:27.220 Benefit, but maybe not as much.
00:08:30.220 Look, you're using chemicals to take the caffeine out.
00:08:34.260 Why not just leave the caffeine in?
00:08:35.940 I mean, caffeine's harmless, and that might be part of the benefit.
00:08:39.240 So there's no doubt that the flavonoids and the antioxidants, they're a big part of the story.
00:08:44.320 So I'd rather you do decaffeinated than none.
00:08:47.160 But I think caffeine is going to prove to be a benefit as well.
00:08:52.300 Will I ever be able to smoke cigarettes again and it'll be good for me?
00:08:57.060 No.
00:08:59.020 But people have grave misconceptions about nicotine.
00:09:04.380 Yes.
00:09:04.780 Right?
00:09:04.960 uh they they get there because we've done such a good job from the public health standpoint
00:09:10.820 which is a whole other topic for me um of making people fearful of cigarettes uh they therefore
00:09:19.760 believe that nicotine must be damaging nicotine is harmless harmless it's the addictive component
00:09:26.760 of cigarettes gets you using the tobacco which is the dangerous part of the cigarette the tobacco
00:09:32.680 not the nicotine oh so oh okay i never heard it explained that way so the tobacco do they add
00:09:40.120 nicotine to it i'm sure they enhance it's like what they're doing with weed they enhance the
00:09:46.140 effect to get you to get addicted to it so they can more of it of course yeah i mean i think it
00:09:50.260 was always in there but yeah they probably have like bred it bred it to have more and things like
00:09:55.000 that and the paper and the filter and then if you're smoking newports and all that stuff and
00:10:00.360 they were like oh you're getting fiberglass in your lungs i'm like all right all right i'm done
00:10:03.340 i'm done so that was forever ago but i miss it i still dream about having a cigarette um you smoked
00:10:09.500 i didn't we didn't know that oh my god a thousand years ago when everybody smoked when it was like
00:10:14.180 do you want smoking or non-smoking you don't look old enough to be a smoker but but but be that as
00:10:19.960 it may to be in that world where there was a smoker versus a non-smoker world but but be sure
00:10:25.540 talk to your doctor about it because you do you screen things differently even with a 10 or 20
00:10:31.700 pack your history in your in your past well so i'll reveal my age okay you guys ready here it
00:10:37.720 comes 56 so i'm 56 and um yeah so i was around long enough for the smoking sections and the
00:10:45.720 airplanes and the whole thing it was it was a vibe you were a teen smoker yes of course
00:10:51.860 Yeah, okay. I'm 67, and I know of when I speak. I saw all that, too. And then I took care of all
00:10:59.040 the people with the emphysema and the vascular disease and all that stuff. It was just terrible.
00:11:03.280 Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:11:04.980 I grew up with a whole family that smoked. My brothers and sisters smoked when they were
00:11:09.640 teenagers, and my parents both smoked. But my dad did quit. I think he put staples in his ears or
00:11:16.260 something. I don't remember exactly what that was, but I think that was one of the treatments that
00:11:19.620 helped him quit and my mom I think quit and started again a number of times I'm not even
00:11:26.060 sure if she's fully quit yet but she probably has at least cut down a lot she's still around
00:11:31.540 I want to thank you guys for I forget two things for I forget a thank you guys for
00:11:35.860 doing Scott Adams school I know he would be so delighted with all this it's a gift and I thank
00:11:42.660 you for doing it and I know the amount of dedication and work it takes to do this and
00:11:46.580 then to try to approximate what scott gives us i i know is just impossible i get it but thank you
00:11:52.520 for doing it and the other thing i want to bring up just make sure i don't forget those of you in
00:11:56.360 california make sure you vote for michael gates for attorney general he's our only hope also
00:12:00.780 the um the controller oh what is his name somebody's gonna have to look up what the
00:12:06.340 controller options are and i'll tell you the guy i was i was he's got a name like bud but he has
00:12:12.100 got an exceptional plan for getting the budget right here in california these are they call it
00:12:16.700 the golden ticket they're our only hope we got if you can't get the rest through please those two
00:12:22.360 guys through because oh wait tell us more so this is um for attorney general um but tell us
00:12:29.160 the controller give me the give me those options and i'll tell you who the guy is you should be
00:12:33.240 running for but during general so so i was in i i had i had so because i worked in a psychiatric
00:12:39.380 hospital those years I've had so many frivolous lawsuits you can't even imagine and this one was
00:12:44.800 another crazy one where it was a patient I had never seen not my patient but because when the
00:12:52.360 patient was discharged the patient the nurse peeked her head in the door and said patient's
00:12:58.200 been discharged and the doctor who I happened to be sitting with said great thanks and she
00:13:03.120 documented in the chart Dr. Blum and Dr. Pinsky aware of discharge because I was sitting in the
00:13:07.960 room. Now I'm in the lawsuit. And the lawsuit was completely frivolous. It was a wrongful death for
00:13:12.660 a guy that died in hospice. Explain that to me. In any event, it was dismissed quickly,
00:13:18.240 but I had to go through many, many, many, many, many hours of depositions and all the crap that 0.98
00:13:22.700 disrupts your life. So I'm sorry that Marcel is not here today. I would love to talk to him.
00:13:26.620 We are too, yeah.
00:13:28.300 But my attorney was this young guy who was really good, and I kind of got a relationship with him.
00:13:34.100 fast forward 20 years he shows up i do a show that my wife produces called ask dr drew at two
00:13:40.480 o'clock on pacific on tuesday and thursday and um four o'clock on wednesday so we're doing it
00:13:47.060 four o'clock today and uh this guy turns up he's the city attorney for huntington beach he comes
00:13:53.640 on my show because he's been suing newsom like 30 times successfully for all the overreach of
00:13:58.420 government and huntington beach is just like this this oasis in california and turned out to be the
00:14:03.820 same guy. And so we developed this, this friendship. And about two years ago, he goes, I think I think
00:14:10.080 I can get attorney general. I think we can do that. Bontas is a nightmare. He's not even doing
00:14:13.980 lawyering. He's not even doing his job. We got to get him out. And now he's has a very good chance
00:14:19.080 of getting in. Wow. So you guys, I posted about him last night, I think it was. Please share the
00:14:25.600 post, tag your California people, you know, reshare it, get the word out there. Dr. Drew
00:14:32.240 knows he listen the doctor has spoken go ahead and look at what bonta's wife is doing who's in 1.00
00:14:37.520 the assembly she's proposed a bill to make it illegal for investigative journalists to investigate
00:14:44.560 fraud in california are you aware of this bill wow oh and you must be aware of this it's amazing
00:14:49.680 that they can even propose things like that i don't understand i mean how can you come out in
00:14:54.000 favor of fraud like just blatantly i don't understand it it's like well news did newsom
00:14:59.120 as soon as the fraud was emerged was exposed he went it's racist against um armenians you're being
00:15:04.640 racist not not that there's fraud going up it's armenians by the way are they're certainly not a
00:15:10.480 minority around here they're all of our friends armenians there's more armenians living in glendale
00:15:15.440 than in armenia by a long margin uh and so you know that's not racist it's just so out of control
00:15:22.320 like the you know the stat that came out that somalia's fraud is bigger than their gdp
00:15:26.480 in Somalia. You hear about the president of Mexico being in the pocket of cartels, but
00:15:34.960 at least she's smart enough not to say, yeah, I am. At least she says, no, no, that's not
00:15:41.380 happening. With the things that Newsom and this other person is doing, you're literally saying
00:15:48.500 you want to prevent people from stopping fraud? What exactly is your agenda? What possible logic
00:15:53.480 could you have i don't think anyone buys that it's racist i know but the racist card seems to
00:15:58.180 work for a lot of people still they're very very brainwashed which actually i wanted to ask you
00:16:02.800 about dr jerry like seriously how this is a big loaded question but how do we cure these people
00:16:12.460 with tds because we know whoever the next republican president is it's going to be
00:16:18.140 that syndrome. It's not a Trump thing. This is a political thing. Because I always say if there
00:16:25.420 was social media and all this stuff going on when George W. Bush was president, it would be the same
00:16:31.040 exact thing. But we just have a bigger reach now, unfortunately, with the social media. But it is
00:16:37.220 a problem because we've just put our sanity aside and are just believing any nonsense. And you
00:16:44.800 can't break these people of their addiction to hating republicans and politicians what do we do
00:16:54.160 owen didn't you address this like last week weren't you trying to talk about how impossible it is
00:16:59.840 yeah and i this is why i love scott he would calm me down on all of it by giving me strategies to
00:17:07.120 look at it and think about it and i i it would seem so much more manageable the way he presented
00:17:12.800 By the way, that's why if you present little, not just the whiteboard stuff that Scott did, but present the little pieces of video of his previous pods, it's a public service to have just culled through and find the gems and play them for us.
00:17:30.620 I mean, we need more of that, number one.
00:17:32.960 We have those.
00:17:33.760 We need more of him.
00:17:35.380 Number two, I used to listen to a podcast called You Are Not So Smart.
00:17:39.640 and it was about it was kind of the first thing i was ever exposed to as it pertains to persuasion
00:17:45.600 i at the time was several years ago i became obsessed with flat earthers i'm like how would i
00:17:51.340 how would i deal with that person how do you how frustrating little did i know that the whole
00:17:56.700 half the world would become effectively flat earthers in regards to many things covid and
00:18:01.900 tds and all these things um and that podcast was making the case they talked about the backlash
00:18:08.400 syndrome, which may or may not exist, where you can convince somebody on a narrow topic,
00:18:13.820 but they'll backlash in other areas. Like you can convince someone that a measles vaccine may be a
00:18:18.880 good idea, but then they'll double down on their anti-vax beliefs for everything else. So he made
00:18:25.960 the case that the only option is to discuss people's worldview. Because if you really go
00:18:33.320 at these things that are sort of organizing principles for how they see the world, including
00:18:37.820 their social relationships it's really hard it's really hard and i i use a lot of what's called
00:18:44.340 therapeutic wonderment just you don't you don't come at people that's when all the force fields
00:18:49.480 go up you just use lots of wonderment like i wonder why i wonder is it is it possible i wonder
00:18:55.940 what you're thinking of course you know the answer in your head but you just you just still
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00:19:47.600 but it but this is like an actual disorder don't you feel like this like i feel like
00:19:58.400 the tds is like you look at oh someone like um sam harris you know so you're like i don't we
00:20:07.860 always go to him as an example because you're like here's someone who seems like they're so
00:20:11.700 smart and whatever but he can't see what what happened to him right in front of his face yeah
00:20:18.500 Yeah, I mean, I have been reading extensively about mass psychosis, true believers, behavior of mobs.
00:20:31.020 I started when social media came around, I started seeing the mob action and I kind of predicted it in my book on narcissism, which I wrote.
00:20:40.160 god i don't know 12 14 years ago it it was kind of a follow-on to christopher lash and some of the
00:20:47.680 other things that have been you know sort of predicting the narcissistic turn and this book
00:20:52.800 was based on some research that i did with a friend of mine where we showed that yeah indeed
00:20:57.120 particularly celebrities are terribly narcissistic and the narcissist and the celebrityness seeking
00:21:03.280 celebrity was an attempt to heal the narcissistic injuries of childhood of course that doesn't work
00:21:09.040 But we also showed that there's been a narcissistic turn everywhere.
00:21:12.220 Like we are all much more narcissistic than we used to be.
00:21:15.740 In 1850, it was debated whether narcissistic personality existed.
00:21:20.480 Now we know it exists.
00:21:21.960 There's no doubt about it.
00:21:23.420 But we all have some of it now, right?
00:21:26.100 And one of the things that narcissists do is to manage their aggression.
00:21:32.080 they collectively form little big or little mobs and focus their aggression outside of themselves
00:21:39.760 on a scapegoat so this this is something that renee gerard talked about although he didn't
00:21:44.400 have the narcissistic piece in there the the scapegoating mechanism is real uh and it is a
00:21:49.940 function of mob behavior and that's the mob formation and the gratification of mobs is to
00:21:55.700 some extent in my belief related to the narcissistic turn you see it when there's a lot of narcissism
00:22:01.840 around so i'm i became obsessed with 1790 you know 1789 in france because that's where this
00:22:08.760 all really got going and um same old stuff same thing we're seeing now same phenomenon precisely
00:22:15.240 i think the problem part of the problem with tds is just that it continues to be reinforced all the
00:22:20.080 time by media and by politicians and all these things so it i think it is a mass psychosis but
00:22:26.020 i think it's really hard to crack either individually or or at a population level
00:22:30.680 because you're fighting this continuing wave of propaganda that's against you.
00:22:34.660 Well, let's go back to that because I totally agree with you.
00:22:38.400 But the way, you know, using Matthias Desmet's frame on mass formation,
00:22:43.880 there is about 20% true believers.
00:22:46.600 So it's important to understand who the true believers are,
00:22:48.580 and they're the problem.
00:22:51.120 And there's 10% of people like us who raise their hand and go,
00:22:54.220 hang on a second, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on here?
00:22:56.720 and the true believers have to crush the the dissenters the question mark our job is to get
00:23:04.220 that 70 in the middle that just want to keep their head down and be left alone we need that group
00:23:09.300 you're not going to the true believers you're you're not going to really get on board but the
00:23:13.440 people just want to get on with their life be left alone that's your target and i'm noticing with the
00:23:19.340 spencer pratt thing that they've been hard to get because the overton window has been so narrow
00:23:28.300 and spencer pratt just kicked open the overton window and started saying things i've been saying
00:23:34.380 forever and literally people went oh you you could do that oh why aren't we doing that well if you
00:23:40.360 can do it why aren't we doing it and that pertains to everything that that's screwed up in our in our
00:23:46.600 in our governmental systems and we have people elected now who are not interested in governing
00:23:52.900 i think you mentioned this is it yesterday somebody said this in the show yesterday or
00:23:57.160 or maybe last week they're not interested in governing they're interested in representing
00:24:02.880 they want to represent they want to place at the table they want to representing good but not going
00:24:09.900 help us when we're in really really serious trouble and in this town it's gone to the point
00:24:16.460 where it's negligent manslaughter let's call it what it is we lose six people a day in the streets
00:24:21.980 here and it increases every year and these are people that could be treated could be saved it's
00:24:27.580 negligent manslaughter and karen bass's solution was we need social workers and we need to give
00:24:32.620 the meth addicts teeth social workers they are not social workers are doing the work with the 0.52
00:24:41.020 homeless they are not i can't say this loud enough they are not trained to do this it's like asking
00:24:48.620 a physical therapist to do surgery these are the sickest psychiatric patients as sick as you get
00:24:56.140 Yet it needs psychiatrists, neurologists, infectious disease doctor, internists, people
00:25:02.000 who have trained for years to be able to manage these cases, not social workers.
00:25:07.720 They don't even know what they're looking at because they've not been trained.
00:25:11.760 And I said this in a big national meeting of county representatives about two years
00:25:19.080 ago, and the whole room went, oh, they just gave me social workers.
00:25:24.100 It's always how we've done it.
00:25:25.160 I go, yeah, we'll stop.
00:25:26.140 Stop. They can't do it. The scariest things that these people say to me is, you got to meet people where they are. Are you kidding me? What are you talking about? Meet people where they are. You got to get them where they need to go immediately or they will die. Meet people where they are. It's like, oh, you have abdominal obstruction? Well, let me meet you where you are.
00:25:50.100 This is nonsense. This is total nonsense. And it is captured the governmental agencies. 0.96
00:26:00.800 I've been hearing you talk about this situation, this crisis for years. You were the one that
00:26:07.000 clued me in about the plague and everything else. I'm like, what are we doing? And you said,
00:26:10.580 these people don't want to live inside. They're addicts. This is where they want to be. They
00:26:15.280 can't even help where they want to be this is it um so i have a question so it's multi-part first
00:26:22.720 um the way i see spencer is i keep saying 2015 donald trump it was just like he's just yeah i'm
00:26:29.360 not a politician there's problems i know how to solve them i i'll put the people around me to do
00:26:34.400 it um so my first question to you is if spencer asked you to help him head up how to fix this
00:26:43.200 problem would you uh accept i would advise happily it's not that hard one of the biggest problems we
00:26:50.160 have is is a deficiency in resources and beds because this is another thing i think people
00:26:55.200 need to understand let me tell you a little story here um the the the speaking of derangements
00:27:03.120 there's a derangement as it pertains to the history of the state medical hospitals in this
00:27:07.920 country reagan did not end the state hospital system in this country the way it went down
00:27:17.040 is you understand psychiatry was in the grips of psychoanalysis for 50 years we were the only
00:27:23.920 country in the world that did that vienna the austria they did it for like five minutes and
00:27:28.080 then they abandoned it this country trained medical doctors as psychoanalysts for 50 years
00:27:35.740 And as such, the psychoanalysts started believing they knew the solutions to all society and all ills and all everything.
00:27:42.540 And the first three heads, the National Institute of Mental Health, were psychoanalysts, two of which had never set foot in a state hospital or even a psychiatric hospital.
00:27:55.300 And one had set foot in one summer, but really had no idea what he was looking at because he wasn't even a doctor.
00:28:01.920 He was an entomologist, if I remember right.
00:28:03.540 and so here were guys that had no understanding of chronic psychiatric illness who had never been
00:28:09.920 in a psychiatric chronic psychiatric hospital setting they decided much in the line of this
00:28:16.060 post post-structuralist which read about the post-structuralist and their impact on everything
00:28:21.660 academic and political now they just the french from 75 years ago with the french today will have
00:28:28.400 nothing to do with the philosophers from 75 years ago destroyed our academic system but
00:28:36.000 look look at um what's her name that wrote that book sexual persona she talks about this a lot
00:28:44.640 you can find her online talk about amen so michelle foucault took the position that psychiatric
00:28:50.900 hospitals cause mental illness and these psychoanalysts grabbed onto that and decided
00:28:57.260 their job needed to be to dismantle the state medical system which was a system that had built
00:29:02.060 over 150 years was terrible in some states but was excellent in others and the reason the states had
00:29:10.060 to do it is because the constitution doesn't provide any provision where the the federal
00:29:14.460 government should have anything to do with mental health services particularly back in the day
00:29:19.580 so they they found a sympathetic ear in a new senator who had a sister with chronic psychiatric
00:29:26.940 illness his name was john kennedy and when he became president they really went at him
00:29:33.980 rosemary had had a frontal lobotomy it destroyed her life it was joe's pushing doctors to do it
00:29:41.020 that got it done uh remember lobotomy was much like it was it was psychosurgeries i can tell
00:29:47.740 you a whole story about how that stuff gets carried out whether it's the opiate crisis or
00:29:51.500 covid or vaccines or psychosurgeries there's always an evangelical physician who gets a hold
00:29:58.700 of the regulatory system and the medical societies and professional societies and then the reimbursement
00:30:03.420 systems and on it goes think deborah burks that that was a good example of that uh i i keep
00:30:11.180 digressing because these are such big stories for me so when he becomes president they they throw
00:30:15.900 down in front of him the community mental health act that act was to dismantle the state health
00:30:22.060 care system and replace it with community mental health centers whose stated goal was preventing
00:30:29.260 mental illness not treating mental illness preventing which is something we don't know
00:30:33.740 how to do to this day the last signature he put uh before his fateful trip to dallas was for the
00:30:40.780 the Community Mental Health Act, which set the state hospitals on the path to destruction, okay?
00:30:48.000 The community mental health centers, which replaced it, were abject failures. And in the
00:30:52.920 meantime, hundreds of thousands of patients were disgorged from these state hospitals with no plan
00:31:00.540 for them. They went to the streets, the prisons, and the nursing homes. The community mental health
00:31:08.080 centers did nothing for them they were completely unable to manage this because they were busy doing
00:31:12.460 prevention which they couldn't do and reagan ended the funding to the abject failure of the community
00:31:19.300 mental health system which was not the state hospital system sounds a lot like the setup of
00:31:24.220 the joker movie right exactly exactly so that's that story i think the person you were looking
00:31:31.600 for for a sexual persona is camille paglia camille paglia go listen to camille paglia and some of her
00:31:36.840 talk let's do her talk to jordan peterson the two of them together it's magical oh nice okay good
00:31:42.460 so do we need to bring back uh mental institutions oh absolutely we need we are that's what that was
00:31:49.020 sort of what prompted me to tell you this long story is we have a deficiency in the capacity to
00:31:54.280 manage these cases and we have to we have to create acute settings chronic settings residential
00:32:00.280 settings i know rfk has been flirting with this for a long time i've talked to him about it many
00:32:06.360 times he wants to set up these sort of work farms for the next one to two years of rehabilitation
00:32:12.600 after people are stabilized he doesn't quite get how far gone we are and what's going to be required
00:32:18.600 to get people in condition where they can tolerate going to the work work camps that he imagines do
00:32:24.200 you think people would go to those facilities if they were available sure i mean you got you have
00:32:30.520 to you have to motivate back to the motivational thing addiction is a usurpation of the brain's
00:32:37.080 motivational system it survival everything else takes a second goes down in orders of importance
00:32:44.280 relative to the use impulse there the addict is not aware of this they have something called
00:32:50.440 anisognosia anisognosia is literally a biological block of insight they don't see what's happening
00:32:57.240 to them you have to it's the same thing that dementia patients get it's the same skin schizophrenics
00:33:02.520 get same thing that stroke patients get you have to take them and you have to motivate them well
00:33:07.560 what motivates addicts well one thing is to go hey you can't stay here you have to come over here
00:33:12.280 that's all you have to do and they'll follow you go i got a nice place for you sorry you cannot
00:33:17.000 stay here let's go you have to motivate them to do something or they will die the usual motivations
00:33:23.320 are loss loss of a child you know a loss of their health they believe they're going to die which
00:33:28.980 if they're lucky enough to get through that inevitably happens uh loss of freedom that's
00:33:34.900 a very big motivator for people and we don't do that anymore and and a a period of time where they
00:33:41.260 at least clear sufficiently the anosognosia settles down and they can start to see what's
00:33:46.260 happening to them and we can start to work on their motivation to get better but it takes work
00:33:50.960 to do that it's very time consuming it's very slow and you have to have a unified front of
00:33:57.440 people saying you can't do that you can't keep doing drugs it's i'm sorry you can't steal sorry
00:34:03.460 you can't slide down if you're sick enough you want to lie down on the sidewalk and stay there
00:34:08.720 no no we gotta we gotta help you we'll take you on if you don't do that for a dementia patient
00:34:14.020 let's say a dementia patient is running around in the streets you're guilty of patient abuse
00:34:19.480 if you take a schizophrenic with the same symptom complex running around the streets and you take
00:34:23.940 them by the hand and say come with me you've now just kidnapped someone so california has got to
00:34:29.060 change its laws so we can do that's the other thing well i mean that was my concern is as i
00:34:33.160 understand it in many states if not all of them there's pretty strict limits about involuntarily
00:34:38.380 committing someone to an institution that you can do it maybe for 24 hours or 72 hours i'm not
00:34:44.020 talking about that i i we we do need to we in order i'm talking about well two things i'm talking
00:34:49.620 about motivating people to to get better to be much nicer environments than they're staying in 0.90
00:34:55.540 and to expand the category of gravely disabled which we've actually done in california i was 0.97
00:35:03.280 advocating that like eight years ago and they actually did it it's unfortunately not being
00:35:07.180 applied properly yet but you have to say you know say if you're so ill you don't know where you are
00:35:12.640 You can't, we don't know what's going on.
00:35:14.820 You're lying on the street with an open wound and you don't want help.
00:35:18.400 We're going to have to help you. 1.00
00:35:20.960 You're gravely disabled. 1.00
00:35:22.620 Gravely disabled used to be the main reason we held people against their will 1.00
00:35:25.600 because it was a broad category that let us help people. 0.99
00:35:29.320 That got closed to really nothing where you couldn't even use it.
00:35:32.560 It's being expanded again, but that's got to be expanded.
00:35:35.500 So again, we can keep people long enough that the anosognosia settles down
00:35:38.820 and the insight clears.
00:35:39.700 uh and it takes time and it takes time and they're also creating a public hazard to everybody else
00:35:46.620 so you know you can't you can't be sitting there with like open wounds and laying in feces and
00:35:52.840 rats running around and you know it's what are we doing it's just so weird like you never thought
00:35:59.040 you'd see this i mean i i saw something similar back in the day in new york like in the 70s it
00:36:04.540 was pretty rough um until rudy was there yeah way worse here than that was yes oh yeah and i just
00:36:12.500 can't even believe it so um i also think if you can enforce laws okay so i was thinking about it
00:36:18.420 last night you know how um everyone's being let out of prisons and this and that like well our
00:36:24.480 prisons are too crowded and i don't know this is just my free floating thought and i'm like thinking 0.96
00:36:28.860 well, aren't they also crowded with a lot of illegal immigrants also? And don't they need to 1.00
00:36:34.720 go back to where they came from so we can open up the prison cells for the actual criminals that
00:36:39.760 are citizens? So everything's just so broken. And I love just hearing common sense of people that
00:36:46.320 follow the laws. If you're not here legally, you got to go. And if you're sick, you got to get off
00:36:52.360 the street. You can't do drugs out in the street in front of people. And by the way, now I'm going
00:36:57.680 to sound like a little ninny but new york with everybody that goes there now is like it just
00:37:03.140 smells like weed everywhere you're not free in new york from not breathing that smell in
00:37:08.520 and i just feel like we're just like run amok with um drugs everywhere and i don't know like
00:37:14.940 we didn't grow up like that we didn't see this like that we heard about it so i just feel like
00:37:19.820 follow the laws on the books why is this so hard to do well it's legal to it's legal to do drugs
00:37:25.720 and traffic drugs here just so you know and traffic them and oh as long as you do certain
00:37:30.900 amounts it's legal and up until recently it was also legal to to steal up to 900 a day to support
00:37:37.220 your habit oh they stop that now well they've closed slowly closing some of that stuff but
00:37:43.400 but still it's still dumb the way we do it yeah it's it's it's dangerous it's killing people i'm 0.95
00:37:49.840 just always baffled by the policies in california and the theme i use for that is it seems like 0.92
00:37:54.260 california's government is hostile to its citizens it's like everything they pass seems to be like
00:37:58.200 what can we do to make those lives worse here caroli used to always say that he'd go uh good
00:38:04.560 on homeless bad on taxpayers he would say that all the time yeah the tax paying particular i mean
00:38:10.840 10 of this country this state pays like 90 of the taxes and those are the ones that are treated
00:38:16.020 absolutely the worst by the state wow all right so we got problems you guys and i know president
00:38:21.060 Trump is very much on board with opening mental institutions. He's said it for years. And listen,
00:38:27.540 let me say one other thing. You keep saying mental institutions. Let's call them what they
00:38:32.060 are, psychiatric hospitals. These are a hospital setting, right? And they are not one flu over the
00:38:38.260 cuckoo's nest. Ken Kesey wrote that book in 1959. We're coming out on 75 years ago. And people
00:38:47.000 thought they were watching a documentary when they watched that movie. They were not watching
00:38:51.020 documentary and psychiatric hospitals are nothing like that today they are lovely they're like
00:38:56.380 hotels you would love to stay in one and many of them have grounds and facilities and we take
00:39:00.940 residential settings later the believe me it's a vast improvement from where they are living and
00:39:07.200 once they get there and sort of involved with it they they usually engage it i did it for i did
00:39:12.580 this for 30 years i ran treatment programs it's not hard it's you just got to put the right
00:39:17.380 structures in place and off you go. It's not hard. We just have to do it. And Dr. Drew, as someone
00:39:24.680 who has consumed your media forever, going back to Loveline and all the way through Celebrity Rehab
00:39:34.420 and all of that, you have always shown yourself to always be the same, which is caring and
00:39:41.140 compassionate and authentic. And that's amazing that through everything you've seen and been
00:39:46.980 through and fame and you know people knowing who you are you have just remained the most i tell
00:39:53.480 people what you see is what you get that is dr drew and you're very kind but but i want to say
00:39:59.040 something about that which is that that was largely built on how much i loved the profession
00:40:06.180 and how important we thought my generation thought this job was so important covid blew that all
00:40:13.240 apart uh i it covid changed me a little bit because i watched my peers behave in ways that
00:40:19.700 were just astonishing and i'm seeing the system particularly primary care type with the most
00:40:26.540 important kinds of caretaking just being eviscerated and decaying and falling apart and
00:40:32.020 the the physicians don't seem to care and it's i i'm and they're all employed and they're just
00:40:38.180 doing what the employees tell them i i just i'm really worried about the what's happened to this
00:40:44.840 profession i don't at all see the the calling that we had my my peer age my peer sort of cohort
00:40:52.920 we just we talked about how important the job was we thought we were the most important job in the
00:40:57.200 world it's not that anymore it just isn't and then public health has completely run amok
00:41:03.780 who knew that there's a wrinkle in our constitution that gives them fiat authority in an emergency
00:41:08.840 that's got to be closed that has to stop most of the public health officials are either not
00:41:14.460 doctors or haven't practiced medicine or pediatricians and trying to make decisions
00:41:18.780 about adult medicine they are not in a position to do so and here we have francis collins on the
00:41:24.120 record saying well we made we made no consideration of the harm we might do oh my god and indeed
00:41:30.380 public health has no mandate to do no harm that's shocking to me i agree and and that's part of
00:41:38.300 watching you through i i remember when covid started how you were and as things went along
00:41:45.180 and i watched you i say this every day it's a superpower when the information changes when you
00:41:51.180 get new information and it's not aligning you have to change your position and dr drew did it
00:41:56.520 in real time. I watched the whole thing. And again, it just makes me love and appreciate you
00:42:02.000 even more because I watched you do it. You didn't like hold onto a position because you don't want
00:42:07.120 to be embarrassed. You're not that guy. So I'm going to just make a strong pivot for a second
00:42:12.600 because I cannot believe how fast this hour is going. I have to play this clip. This was on
00:42:18.960 this was on Locals
00:42:21.140 and this was when you and Greg went to visit
00:42:23.400 Scott. And it's
00:42:25.260 just a little clip, Jay Plemons made,
00:42:27.200 but let's just watch this together and then we'll check.
00:42:28.840 And Erica, full disclosure, I can't hear
00:42:31.140 the clips. So I won't. I remember going
00:42:33.080 up there and stuff, but go ahead and play it.
00:42:35.360 Okay.
00:42:37.020 And you mentioned this morning that Trump could be
00:42:39.200 blocking Clinton. I mean,
00:42:41.100 protecting him. And I thought, oh,
00:42:43.140 that makes perfect sense to me. And I
00:42:45.080 had this feeling like, oh, I'd want to protect him too.
00:42:47.640 You know what I mean? Really?
00:42:48.960 I would want to.
00:42:50.520 I wouldn't know if I would.
00:42:51.240 I would want to.
00:42:52.660 I would feel if Clinton had not come after me.
00:42:55.540 Yeah, exactly.
00:42:57.040 I would repay him.
00:42:58.460 It wouldn't be just that, though.
00:42:59.980 I thought, you know, oh, boy, I'm going to say something pretty controversial here, which is that if you something like if you separate him from Hillary, you really see how awful Hillary is relative to him.
00:43:17.000 Oh, my God, yes. 0.96
00:43:17.620 you know and because he was a great administrator interesting dude you know sex addict alcohol
00:43:22.180 whatever good for him you know what i mean but he but he really but he but he ran a great
00:43:26.320 administration and he's a super bright guy and he wanted to do all the right things and he's not
00:43:30.920 going after trump and he's you know being a an estatesman he's really a consummate statesman
00:43:36.500 and he just liked to bang the chicks he do like as he likes the he likes the chicks he likes the 0.76
00:43:42.340 chicks. They got, he got into it for the chicks. He's just like, oh my God. Thank you for playing
00:43:53.480 that. Um, I'm surprised at how clearly I said that. And I agree with myself, uh, about, about
00:44:00.800 Bill Clinton. Uh, and Greg and I, we speak all the time about our, our, our gratitude, uh, that,
00:44:11.100 that we took the time and we found the time we went up there and we did this thing was it was
00:44:17.900 i don't want to say too strongly but i i it was kind of life-changing i mean it was such
00:44:22.540 an important moment for the three of us greg and i our friendship tightened up i felt like i i i
00:44:32.220 reached out to scott in a way that was meaningful to him by coming up there
00:44:35.420 there. And I get deeply, you know, grief. Grief grabs me when I see that clip. You know, Greg and
00:44:43.840 I, our relationship formed around Scott. He used to do a one night a week show on Saturdays. And
00:44:52.060 I started doing that a little bit and actually pulled the producer aside of the Saturday shows
00:44:57.140 years ago. And I said, hey, this is a hit five nights a week. You got to roll it out. I'm telling
00:45:03.040 you it's gonna it's gonna work and about two years later they did and we were on that show
00:45:09.300 was on a break uh i think we used to do it live and uh scott goes i i i had mentioned uh persuasion
00:45:17.540 or something and i had found scott's on various podcasts talking about it and and greg goes did
00:45:24.240 you ever you know he does a periscope every day at seven o'clock periscope isn't that funny every
00:45:28.780 it's seven o'clock you watch it i go no i'm sort of like what's a periscope and i made sure i
00:45:34.540 figured that out went and listened i'm like oh my goodness this is fantastic and that's where i
00:45:39.860 started with scott i can't even remember how i got to meet it galvanized graphic greg and my
00:45:45.220 relationship but i can't remember how i met scott i think he was through corolla i think i met him
00:45:50.500 at corolla studios because i i made an issue of him with adam and he goes oh he's coming in i went
00:45:58.120 i gotta meet him and then have you heard my crazy story about our trip to greece yes yes you can
00:46:05.580 tell it though a lot of people may not have yeah so he he's here's scott every morning and i would
00:46:11.700 listen to the show seven o'clock is sort of when i'm showering and so i would have the show always
00:46:16.120 going in the shower and i hear him talk about how he's going on the trip of a lifetime and he sort
00:46:21.440 of vaguely told you know the what time of year like what time of the month vaguely gave some
00:46:27.220 dates he didn't say specifically and i thought and i just had this deep thought where i just went
00:46:33.040 he's going where i'm going we're going to the same place it was like i just was like then i was like
00:46:38.100 no come on stop you can't be i let me so i dm'd him or something i go hey where are you going
00:46:43.420 and you go santorini oh really we're going to santorini when exact same dates exact same date
00:46:49.780 on the same airplane on the same airplane so it was so we spent several days together we had
00:46:57.220 several dinners and stuff being he and christina were there at the time and we had a great time
00:47:01.980 and that's where our relationship really uh formed oh yeah he told us all about that he's
00:47:07.400 like you'll never believe this you know and we just we're like we were with dr drew that's so
00:47:11.940 fun so it's like it was just a way for you to get together to have that time which
00:47:17.740 you know is always so precious for everybody everybody you know your time is precious you
00:47:23.900 know you just don't know it i think scott's life was somehow designed to convince him that we're
00:47:28.160 in a simulation well you know and sometimes i would call him and i go i'd go i'd go scott
00:47:34.280 you're doing something i feel it what are you doing and he'd go i'm always doing something
00:47:39.360 i'm not gonna tell you and i go well you're up to something i can feel that i can feel the
00:47:44.500 tectonic plates moving what are you doing and uh you know inevitably he would bring us somewhere
00:47:50.500 with his persuasion and i i would laugh and be like you know you're like running the universe
00:47:55.840 from your garage or from your computer you know and like he would be workshopping something and
00:48:01.120 then you know two days later you're watching the news you're like oh i would just like turn to my
00:48:05.060 husband like just fyi scott did that and he'd be like really i'm like yep he did that two days ago
00:48:10.260 It was crazy.
00:48:11.580 I think he invented the term TDS.
00:48:14.000 I mean, certainly the acronym.
00:48:16.100 First, I heard Trump deranged this from him, for sure.
00:48:19.900 Maybe he heard it somewhere.
00:48:21.540 I think he was also the one who came up with 3D chess.
00:48:25.040 And people still use that, either positive or making fun of it.
00:48:28.800 But they still use that term, like 4D chess, 5D chess.
00:48:31.400 All of that came from Scott.
00:48:33.120 Oh, I love that.
00:48:35.380 And, you know, Owen, he used to refer to you a lot.
00:48:40.260 um would he call you would he sort of would you guys communicate regularly or honestly mostly it
00:48:45.500 was just online i was sending him stories all the time i mean we did chat and you know from time to
00:48:50.220 time and i did go to visit him in person once before he passed and he was you know on the way
00:48:54.580 down but not nearly at the end of that so he was pretty healthy relatively speaking um but a lot
00:49:00.220 of it was just you know i i started trying to get his attention online and some of that was hit or
00:49:05.380 miss based on the technology and eventually i got him to give me his dm so i could send him stories
00:49:09.740 that way and that's mostly how we communicated you and naval were people that he really relied
00:49:16.640 on for for insight for wow owen you and naval when do you hear that well maybe he'd offer he
00:49:25.460 he kind of bring you guys up in the same way at least if not at the same time i'm humbled to hear
00:49:31.620 that heck yeah that's beautiful um so dr drew what everybody so what what are the things that
00:49:41.700 we have to do as a takeaway right now oh and i do want to mention just so people know that
00:49:46.120 ken paxton won yesterday in texas and so now who is it owen it's that um but they have to get out
00:49:55.500 a talaricio something like that yeah so that's the guy they want to get out now so so and we
00:50:02.100 have to focus on california you guys um we have to make it better for dr drew and for marcella
00:50:07.060 to be living there so dr drew whenever you want a message to get out like this is a this is a
00:50:13.680 group of your warriors also we're all scots to bring so let us know and we'll amplify okay we'll
00:50:19.520 amplify whatever you need um did we did we find it let me i'll have to look it up because you guys
00:50:24.420 didn't tell me who the controller we got to get this guy i did have that it's malia cohen on the
00:50:28.660 democratic side and yeah or morgan on the republican herb herb i always want to say but herb herb is
00:50:34.300 the guy herb i've talked to him i interviewed him i met him that's your man that he he will he the
00:50:39.920 controller turns out can really do things we just don't we don't have government officials that
00:50:44.240 govern it's just an extraordinary time we either have incompetent or unconcerned with government
00:50:50.740 yeah it's insanity um what and what other things i'm just trying to read the chat i know you guys
00:50:58.580 have questions for dr drew they're going by so fast um i can't quite see it or i would help you
00:51:05.720 with that it's across the room for me okay they want to know about the controller oh what else
00:51:11.560 you guys sorry they're going by fast for me um and dr drew what do you want to tell us about oh
00:51:18.340 i have a question so your ask dr drew show is that live yeah it's a live stream you can get it's also
00:51:25.220 up as a podcast and a youtube channel whatnot but uh and it's on rumble uh we do very well
00:51:30.020 on rumble so please we we love rumble rumble was really i was being canceled and shadow banned
00:51:35.940 everywhere for daring to talk to people that now run the nih and the fda uh and the hhs for daring
00:51:44.500 to quote platform these people that's a word i never want to hear again if use the word host
00:51:50.900 eliminate the word platform it's used as a pejorative and it means nothing a platform like
00:51:56.980 a dot two doctors discussing on a on a live stream two doctors talking to each other about their
00:52:01.860 opinions that's platforming take a hug somebody asked is uh president trump's health a concern
00:52:10.660 look he's oh he's i i pray to god i have the vitality and health that he has at his age he
00:52:20.180 is yeah right and and the the thing about men is the wheels start to come off the wagon in their
00:52:28.340 70s it just happens stuff goes down so stuff is going to happen to him as an older man is it going
00:52:35.380 to impair him apparently not i mean he just performs at a level that's ridiculous i wish i
00:52:42.420 could not sleep like that and i i remember his first you know i gave a talk at the white house
00:52:46.900 about homelessness during the end of the first presidency and i got to meet azar the hhs director
00:52:53.460 and he's a you know he's accomplished guy i used to run lily's employer and he said you know this
00:52:58.180 guy is amazing he goes i call him at four in the morning for a decision and he will immediately
00:53:02.740 give me that decision and he doesn't care day or night call him if you need input or decision call
00:53:08.260 me now and he said that's a kind of an extra superpower that he has as a as an executive
00:53:14.580 yeah he'll do anything anytime 24 7 and you kind of hear rubio and kennedy kind of talking about
00:53:20.760 that uh and it inspires them and they perform better as a result um oh i don't i'm not going
00:53:29.240 to relitigate scott's health but um so oh so how are you feeling about i hate talking about politics
00:53:37.840 all the time but moving forward do you have a preference over rubio or vance it's kind of like
00:53:44.740 the boxers briefs conversation i i don't i don't i think that's an extraordinary guy with an
00:53:51.380 extraordinary story but i'm so impressed by rubio i am so impressed by him um so i don't know we'll
00:53:57.960 see i i don't i'm not forming opinions yet i i'm just i i'm a i'm really a rubio enthusiast i'm a
00:54:05.320 fan of jd vance i'm an enthusiast for do you think his translates do you think his transformation is
00:54:12.120 genuine in the sense that he used to be kind of perceived as sort of this deep state guy
00:54:16.640 and then under trump he seems like a completely different person
00:54:21.000 you know my wife has been a fan of his forever as has her best friends who are
00:54:27.960 cuban so i've been hearing a lot about him for a long time um i don't know what to make of that i
00:54:34.680 think he's just a good executive and he was a senator and dealing with the system handed to him
00:54:39.560 look if 10 years ago you were a senator you you'd have to be a part of the swamp what are you going
00:54:44.120 to do you'd have to operate within it i i don't know it's a good question and we'll see i i don't
00:54:50.920 i'm not making uh forming opinions yet about about any of that but but you did say something about
00:54:56.120 at Scott's Health, I want to talk, at least remind everybody, get your PSAs, man, after 50.
00:55:02.600 And after 40, if you have a first year relative with prostate cancer, I have prostate cancer.
00:55:08.040 I had a prostatectomy 13 years ago, something like that. It's a manageable illness when you
00:55:14.860 get it early. And Scott is an example of it getting away. Don't be afraid. It's a simple
00:55:22.860 test right there's no digital rectal exam anymore it's just a blood test and and black men more than 1.00
00:55:30.720 anybody tend to present with more advanced and more aggressive disease so it's really important 1.00
00:55:35.520 we do a horrible job with african-american men so it's really important to you guys and to the 1.00
00:55:41.260 rest it's equally important to not have to suffer with the illness because it's so manageable early 0.99
00:55:48.160 I'm the example of that.
00:55:50.160 That's great advice.
00:55:50.920 One last question from Mike Burt.
00:55:53.020 He wanted to know if you still give Susan daily foot rubs.
00:55:58.400 Daily what? 1.00
00:55:59.420 Foot rubs.
00:56:01.260 I do. 0.99
00:56:05.720 If your wife is into it, I recommend you provide such. 0.92
00:56:09.880 It's simple. 0.99
00:56:10.520 You lie there when you're watching TV and do the foot rub.
00:56:13.340 It doesn't hurt anything.
00:56:14.880 It's no sweat for me.
00:56:18.160 It's easier than shoulder rubs. It's easy. Just let, just take the foot, rub it. Big deal.
00:56:24.700 That was a great question, Mike. Yeah. And listen, everybody loves a good foot rub.
00:56:30.560 Dr. Drew, don't avoid us because rumbles a pain in the neck. Okay.
00:56:36.060 Okay. Yeah. No, I won't. It's really the time of day for me. And I've got so much going on right
00:56:40.740 now. I can't believe we're so fortunate. I'm so grateful for everything in my life. Gratitude is
00:56:47.020 an important emotion it lets it lets you know you're on the right track and i i have just
00:56:50.880 gratitude up and down and i've had this extraordinary i i just thought i'd be seeing
00:56:56.220 patients in an office in a hospital setting my whole life and i had this extraordinary adventure
00:57:00.800 never planned it never never it just happened and i just would it's all been a big improvisation
00:57:08.420 where somebody goes hey we're gonna do a tv show i'm like how do you do that let's i'll walk in
00:57:13.140 that room and see what that's all about and try to use media to do something good and it's been
00:57:17.580 a great privilege and this is with being with you guys today is part of that privilege so
00:57:22.300 you know you're part of this family for sure as you know so we um we hate having to give up this
00:57:31.540 hour now but you guys let's uh always be thankful to scott and shelly for allowing this show to
00:57:36.080 continue did you want to thank you for bringing and thank you for bringing gad sad in here last
00:57:39.940 week that was one of the best gadsad appearances ever and he's a he's a friend he we meet in
00:57:46.160 laguna when we can he's he's an extraordinary guy and he really was on full display so listen
00:57:51.440 to that pod if you haven't seen it yet oh we enjoyed him thank you so much for saying that
00:57:56.300 yeah we had a great time with him um so again thank you to scott and shelly for allowing this
00:58:01.080 show to continue um and as always uh you guys we do a closing sip to our beloved scott who we
00:58:07.840 miss so so so much and i know he's beaming seeing you here with us today dr drew it means a lot to
00:58:13.520 all of us so a closing sip you guys be useful to scott to scott bye guys thanks dr drew my privilege
00:58:26.840 you guys bye thanks owen all right you too bye
00:58:37.840 Let's see if we can turn off rumble.
00:58:42.780 I have to hang up my phone calls.
00:58:45.080 Oh my God, that's so funny.
00:58:47.840 Okay.
00:58:49.120 You guys, that was so fun.
00:58:53.240 Okay, let's hang on for one second.
00:59:00.200 And let's see if we can go private with the locals.
00:59:03.460 You guys give me one sec. Hi, Stella. How does Stella know?
00:59:19.100 Okay. Let's see. Hi guys. Did we love Dr. Drew? So good. I know. Yay. I literally
00:59:33.220 uh you know owen said what's the agenda i'm like let's just riff with the doctor what whatever
00:59:38.500 happens happens and um he's so sweet i love him um and marcella will be back tomorrow you guys so
00:59:45.480 we want to wish her luck she's in court not in court you know she's doing her job she's an attorney
00:59:51.120 um i love that he loved the gad sad interview we almost did a thing where um i was gonna sneak
01:00:00.060 dr drew in after we started the interview because he doesn't really get to see gad or talk to him
01:00:06.300 too much so but then it was like no let's let's have the hour with um dr gad sad so we could just
01:00:12.940 chat it out with him which is good oh holsey i love that i love your wife she is the cutest
01:00:22.860 like i would totally be hanging with you guys if i live near you and we'd be on that amazing boat 1.00
01:00:27.100 let me see. Oh, I can. Oh, Dr. Drew's calling guys. I'm going to run. Okay.
01:00:36.340 When the doctor calls. All right. Love you guys. Bye.