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00:01:02.820 And let me just get locals pulled up here for me.

00:01:06.580 So Owen is off today doing agency stuff, as we like to joke.

00:01:12.820 Or is it a joke?

00:01:14.060 I can't tell you.

00:01:15.340 So anyway, thank you for being here, Brian.

00:01:17.400 It is June 4th.

00:01:19.480 Wow, it's June.

00:01:20.680 So it's like summer.

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00:01:23.620 It's going to be 80 where I am today.

00:01:25.580 Should I go to the beach again?

00:01:26.680 That's the question.

00:01:27.400 if I have time. So listen, we are so happy to have Brian back with us. He is just like so fun

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00:02:23.600 i mean we didn't uh so you guys i have two quick updates for you i'm going to give you an update

00:02:38.040 first and then marcella's going to give you an update on what's happening uh just so you guys

00:02:42.640 are informed in california but remember or so a lot of us are on a creatine journey together brian

00:02:48.620 And so, uh, Owen puts creatine in his coffee and then I'm like, I'm going to put creatine

00:02:53.100 in my coffee because Dr. Drew was on and he's like, I approve of that.

00:02:56.980 So then you guys remember, I said, I had like a little situation and I was like, oh, maybe

00:03:01.700 I had, I have to like slow build the creatine.

00:03:05.880 Here's what the problem was.

00:03:07.220 Okay.

00:03:08.480 Now I'm obsessed.

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00:03:16.140 I also have purchased these and I forgot. So this is called a Jimmy bar. And I also got this at

00:03:22.460 Costco, but look, it also has five grams of creatine and 20 grams of protein, only four

00:03:30.120 grams of sugar. And I bring that up to say to you that that day I had 10 grams of creatine,

00:03:35.220 which was like only my second day of trying creatine, hence the stomach. Okay. So one or

00:03:42.480 the other, but I highly recommend this. So good. 20 grams of protein, five grams of creatine. Again,

00:03:50.320 it's just me talking, do what you got to do. Talk to your doctors. Okay.

00:03:53.560 Some advice about creatine. Cycle on and off. You do not do it seven days a week.

00:04:03.020 And I would do it for cognitive function. That's how I've been doing it for 30 years,

00:04:09.540 40 years? I don't know. Look at him. Look how smart he is. My 70th turnaround in the sun.

00:04:21.380 So yeah, creatine is really important. If you happen to get a brain injury,

00:04:27.820 get creatine as quickly as you can. Hyperbaric oxygen and creatine. I absolutely advise. If you

00:04:34.840 know anybody with cognitive decline uh definitely get creatine in a diet but important is to

00:04:42.140 titrate up oh uh continue for like i'm not a doctor yeah yeah no degrees i have no medical

00:04:50.160 advice this is his opinion yeah there you go but titrate up let it go uh five days and then drop

00:04:59.740 off a day or two and you want to keep that cycle because it keeps your body um in fact i would

00:05:05.980 recommend that for almost any vitamin or nutrient um there are some you don't want to do that with

00:05:11.540 but that would be five shows to talk about but uh we'll book them anybody over the age of i think

00:05:19.940 everybody needs creatine the problem is it's not highly available in the meats that we have anymore

00:05:25.860 um that has a lot to do with the minerals uh you know nkp you know all these different minerals

00:05:32.480 that we put in the soil are not enough and the cattle and meats that you get are not getting

00:05:39.020 creatine because that's the primary source and um so it's it's it's it's important to to do that

00:05:45.420 anyway i don't want to interrupt no that's no because we're kind of all on this like not all

00:05:49.420 but some of us are on this little journey so i don't you know i don't know what to do and dr

00:05:54.000 Drew also said, you know, I don't, you know, the jury's out on how much you should really have and

00:05:58.560 what the dosing is. So he's sticking with the five. Um, so I have like the powder one. So I

00:06:04.100 like that. I'm just kind of mixing it up. So according to the muscle activity. So if you

00:06:08.720 start getting aches in your muscles, you've taken too much creatine. Um, and a lot of people don't

00:06:14.880 understand that that's a magnesium and calcium issue too. So you got to really make sure your

00:06:21.340 mineral count is high if you're going to be on creatine or high amounts of creatine.

00:06:27.280 Okay. Okay. All right. So you guys, you heard this, you can always rewind it,

00:06:32.220 rewind it. Like I'm Joe Biden over here. We can play the record. Um, so you can always replay

00:06:37.800 this. All right. That's good. Now, Marcella, can you just give us a quick update? Any news on the,

00:06:42.760 uh, LA election for the peeps? Well, in LA, you know, Los Angeles has been Los Angeles. Um,

00:06:50.260 So they're taking their time to do the mail-in ballots.

00:06:55.160 I looked up the last election for the mayoral race.

00:06:58.740 It took eight days for the final general election for that to happen.

00:07:03.640 And at the time, the Republicans seemed to be winning and then Karen Bass won.

00:07:09.200 So that was for the general election.

00:07:11.440 But I didn't look at the primary.

00:07:13.120 I think the primary was easier for to figure it out.

00:07:16.040 But right now, what's happening is yesterday, a lot of points, a lot of percentage, 11 percent were gained by Rahman, the socialist Democrat.

00:07:28.400 and Pratt went down negative 8%.

00:07:34.620 And even Kalshi, which is not a sponsored here, but could be,

00:07:40.980 went down 34% likelihood of him being able to.

00:07:46.460 But the good news, this is the good news,

00:07:48.760 in regards to the general election, in regards to the governor race,

00:07:53.720 that's a harder climb for them to beat Steve Hilton.

00:07:56.940 okay um although there is still a path for tom steyer to come out of the you know out of all

00:08:03.580 the votes that they're coming in um the the thing that's making the news right now is that president

00:08:10.120 trump posted on truth that democrat democrats are at it again and that he is having um the

00:08:19.880 he's having this being investigated by the u.s attorney's office in los angeles good okay good

00:08:25.540 All right. So that's the update. I appreciate that. And also, if something goes sideways

00:08:31.380 and suddenly Nithya Raman pulls ahead, I'm going to tell you right now, that also will be a huge

00:08:39.580 Spencer effect because people will come out of the woodwork like crazy. They will no longer be

00:08:46.220 silent in California. They will expose the fraud for what it is, and you will unleash a whole new

00:08:53.060 game-changing thing in California. So either way, this will work to benefit California and the way

00:08:59.560 we vote. Okay. So Brian doesn't do politics. We're going to end it there, but we were talking

00:09:04.160 backstage. All right. So you say what you're comfortable with about what we were talking

00:09:13.260 about other countries. I'm just going to leave it at that. You say what you're comfortable saying,

00:09:17.880 but it's fascinating. Well, thank you. And always an honor to be here. Pleasure to hang out. And

00:09:26.460 hopefully we'll do a locals one of these days and do a little longer format. I will digress into

00:09:33.700 some local politics. I'm in Southern California, not in Los Angeles. I'm a little further south.

00:09:41.040 um when i moved out here in 1990 it was everything a new jersey kid would have thought of

00:09:48.280 of california um you know just almost everything was absolutely like it was in the movies i mean

00:09:58.220 hair metal bands on the streets in la uh the whiskey you know um yeah yeah it was it was

00:10:07.700 quite a time. And people were having a really good time. I mean, there was whatever divides

00:10:15.020 there were in politics, it was sort of irrelevant. I mean, I knew people that were hardcore libertarian,

00:10:21.820 conservative, as hard left as you could be as far as socialist, communist, and everybody just

00:10:29.560 kind of didn't care. They went to the beach, they hung out, the state more or less was beautiful,

00:10:34.220 and it, and it, uh, sustained two Jerry Browns, right? Jerry Brown one and two. Jerry Brown one

00:10:40.780 did some great things for the state. It made it quite beautiful coming from Jersey and driving

00:10:47.080 the freeways in the nineties, uh, that Jerry Brown helped make. They were the most beautiful

00:10:51.940 freeways I've ever seen in my life. I mean, everything was just south of me. Uh, there's

00:10:57.980 a place called rainbow and there's this arch bridge. You can look it up. It's rainbow, uh,

00:11:03.460 California. And it's just absolutely astonishing. Over the top, beautiful arch coming through a

00:11:11.360 into the Valley of Rainbow. And that was part of the beautification act that Jerry Brown put in.

00:11:17.840 The freeways are no longer like that. I think Jersey freeways are probably better,

00:11:24.420 especially around Newark, where I was born. You know, just beautiful smells, everything.

00:11:29.140 No, California has changed dramatically. And, you know, it used to be, hey, I'm from California.

00:11:36.640 People like, hey, tell me about it. For most of my time being out here, last 10 years, people like, hey, I'm sorry.

00:11:44.820 You know, it really sucks. So there's a problem, you know, without pointing fingers other than the finger of corruption.

00:11:52.580 Yeah, that's the only thing you can point at. I don't care what what body it's in. It's corruption and it's the most prosperous state and it's becoming the most destroyed state and in the country and in the world.

00:12:07.800 yeah and um everybody knows it spencer pratt is the end effector of of this in los angeles

00:12:16.780 the areas like melrose and and hollywood walk of fame was a little you know the chinese theater

00:12:24.620 it was always a little bit of the times square feel if you've been now but that's fine you expect

00:12:31.620 that, you don't want to have anybody, if anybody knows anything, you don't go down that part of

00:12:38.960 town anytime, day or night. And if you do, you have to really be aware of where you're stepping,

00:12:45.840 who's in the area. This is a really big problem. All of the major businesses that populated that

00:12:52.760 area, other than a few that can't leave, like the theater, they don't exist anymore.

00:12:58.840 uh you know melrose which was an eclectic incredible place valley girls you know that

00:13:07.100 whole area you would go down melrose and it was it would be vital with people artistic expression

00:13:13.680 uh clothing uh record stores all kinds of things it's a ghost town wow uh venice beach you don't

00:13:21.980 even want to go there it used to be a place where you would want to walk around a kid from seaside

00:13:26.980 I'd go to the seaside and, you know, I thought I was, you know, my Italian hot dogs and mustard on my French fries.

00:13:36.720 But it's not like that anymore.

00:13:39.580 And and anybody that's been here long enough realizes this change.

00:13:44.620 And that's what I think Spencer is tapping into.

00:13:47.680 How anybody can't see this beyond all of the other.

00:13:52.060 Well, this is my team.

00:13:53.280 I'm going to vote this.

00:13:54.160 Yeah, it's ridiculous.

00:13:55.080 And most of the people know that.

00:13:56.980 And the only thing I could say is they got to get faster printers so that they can get these, you know, these votes in quicker so that we can get it done in one day.

00:14:08.380 They literally can buy more laser printers to make more vote cards show up so that, you know, the people who are corrupted can win.

00:14:19.440 I mean, let's just say that's what's going on.

00:14:22.940 And to try to dance around that, it's ridiculous.

00:14:25.580 That's not a political statement.

00:14:26.760 that's a reality. I'm a technologist. You can have this vote counted in, you know, maybe two

00:14:34.080 and a half hours. That's what most of the countries around the world do. And when America goes and

00:14:40.060 observes an election, if it's not happening in a couple hours, we're already checking the cards

00:14:47.040 for corruption. That's right. But we can't do it introspectively. That's all I'll say about that.

00:14:52.220 No, you're so right. That's all it ever comes down to, you guys. That's why it's like I was having a discussion with a friend. It's not about the party. It's about what control they have. Do we have any say? I don't care who it is.

00:15:08.680 You know, I just I just want I just want fair elections, because if they tell us that's the most important thing we have in this world as American citizens is our right to vote and that elections are so important, but yet they're just so crazy.

00:15:25.000 So I want the corruption gone. I want our money to be in this country doing what it's supposed to be doing, or I want to stop paying my taxes. All right, stop.

00:15:34.020 Okay, so we were talking backstage, and again, like, I don't know what you're comfortable saying here, but I love what you're doing, and I'll just let you take it, and then I'll follow your lead.

00:15:46.880 Thank you.

00:15:48.980 I am the AI advisor, technology advisor to President Berkeli in El Salvador.

00:15:55.280 I'm really honored that I've been selected to do that.

00:15:59.260 it's been a couple of well i've been i've been advising indirectly for the better part of five

00:16:06.900 years and it's been official kind of last two years i don't remember but i don't banty it about

00:16:13.760 so a lot of people don't know i do this um el salvador i believe is the biblical shining city

00:16:22.780 on the hill. It really is an example of a turnaround. I'm not going to get into the

00:16:29.580 politics or the ways and means of which it took place. But what I can understand from people who

00:16:39.820 live in San Salvador, especially in certainly the countryside, it is like a blight that has

00:16:47.200 been reversed, which is kind of why this ties into LA and why I extended a little into the

00:16:53.660 political realm. I'm sure Marcello can explain this, what the country might have been like

00:17:01.900 from where it is now, where it was before. But I am really impressed by the Renaissance 2.0

00:17:13.740 that the president has brought about in the country. And I think it can be an example of how

00:17:19.080 every country, and I'm advising other countries also, and not officially, not I can talk about

00:17:26.080 at this point, and hopefully United States. You know, I talked to quite a few people

00:17:31.560 in the administration, but again, not officially. The big problem that we have

00:17:39.760 is we have a corruption of the understanding

00:17:44.900 of what technology should be doing with humanity.

00:17:49.660 And that has to do with our education

00:17:51.960 and it has to do with the bifurcation

00:17:55.600 of the haves and have-nots.

00:17:57.820 And the new haves and have-nots now

00:18:00.040 are whether or not you have a career or a job

00:18:03.640 or you don't.

00:18:06.280 And technology is going to cause that.

00:18:09.000 And that's creating a very real and existential fear within everybody.

00:18:17.000 And we've talked about it in the shows.

00:18:18.900 And I think it's vital that this country faces it head on, because if not, you might as well start learning Mandarin Chinese in 2032.

00:18:30.940 Because we have a company called China.

00:18:35.980 China is one company.

00:18:37.840 It's also a country, but it operates as a single company.

00:18:42.540 And so when we have companies in the United States, we see them go at each other and sometimes there's hidden hands behind, but they kind of go.

00:18:51.800 They all operate at the same rhythm and the same beat in that country.

00:18:56.540 And that's because their goal is to dominate the world.

00:19:00.900 That is a goal.

00:19:02.020 That's not our goal in the United States.

00:19:03.700 Our goal is like, you know, let's play nice and let's, you know, you know, independence and all that.

00:19:10.600 That's not really what the CCP is about.

00:19:13.240 And certainly it's not what the companies now, the companies more or less operate independently, but they take essentially the same themes and they make sure that they follow through.

00:19:23.920 What happened in El Salvador, and one of the things that is making El Salvador become a magnet

00:19:30.480 for so many things, is primarily the Bitcoin law, which allows people to be sovereign in that

00:19:36.960 country and have Bitcoin and exist there. And it's welcomed by the country with the fluctuations of

00:19:44.560 up and down in Bitcoin. It's going to go down. It's on sale right now. I'm not a financial advisor,

00:19:49.920 but it's a it's a black friday sale uh get it while you can there's only 21 million um but also

00:19:59.840 you know the country is looking at attracting and building the right talent in its own backyard

00:20:08.000 and that starts with the ai law that we've had passed with which gives protection to open source

00:20:13.840 ai developers and all technology developers that are open source where you can't be uh brought in

00:20:20.480 on charges because your ai model says bad things or does bad things bad things exist in the world

00:20:27.360 and we all know that and to try to have governments control information is probably

00:20:33.440 the most bizarre thing that will ever happen because you can't control ideas whole country

00:20:39.440 is based upon the idea that you have freedom of speech, right? And it's a freedom of speech to

00:20:46.220 express yourself in such a way. I'll give you one sidebar. California and New York are going to make

00:20:52.380 it illegal to have an open source 3D printer. Now, 3D printing is a liberation, and it's going to

00:21:02.900 give us our sovereignty as we go into the age of abundance, which is happening no matter what

00:21:09.360 political forces try to do what they're going to do that and you know i might have said this before

00:21:15.200 but it's either going to happen in the next 15 years or it's going to be the flintstones for a

00:21:21.520 thousand years there's no choice the people that are grabbing onto power they're going to be you

00:21:26.880 know we got to control all this it's out of their hands just like this internet right they the

00:21:32.480 internet was wild and free for a long time and now we're siloed into social media and they tried to

00:21:38.640 control it elon kind of broke that thing love them or hate them uh you gotta love them for

00:21:45.040 being able to at least try to open the the grips of the the dying regimes i call it the interregnum

00:21:53.440 and that's one king dying and another king taking over um that's what's happening so i'm gonna go

00:21:59.440 down a little bit of a rabbit hole the the 3d printing laws new york is doing it always for

00:22:06.560 the right reasons they're printing guns they're printing guns so we're going to have to have all

00:22:12.880 3d printers call a a a server and we're going to look at every file before you print it to make

00:22:19.920 sure you're not printing guns or gun parts and that's going to fix it that's going to fix it

00:22:25.120 because all of us all of us are going to make sure that the renegade pirated 3d printers who

00:22:34.080 are going to print guns make sure that they have a monopoly on the gun printing operation and that's

00:22:42.480 always the intended or unintended outcome so when a when a political figure says we're trying to

00:22:48.720 protect you and there ought to be a law right this is the the classic bifurcation uh problem

00:22:55.280 reaction solution right sometimes they create the problem and everybody oh they're oh that person

00:23:01.200 died from a 3d printed gun that nobody right right it's not a problem right right it will be if we

00:23:09.440 need to get enough media well they'll send us wind up toys out there boom boom boom and oh it's a 3d

00:23:15.120 printed gun but in their wisdom to control they are using the gun it's either the guns or the

00:23:23.840 children or both is the reason for the regulation and you can go all the way back if you study

00:23:30.320 history this is not a new cycle it goes all the way back to uh roman times you know and they

00:23:36.960 i don't want to go too far down rebel hole but it's always used to create rules and regulations

00:23:42.400 by creating a dichotomy of why you need them anyway new york has already uh got this pass

00:23:48.880 california is going to try to do it the the home of technology is going to try to make it impossible

00:23:54.720 for an open source project for somebody to just creatively build something without getting the

00:24:01.560 papers checked okay what are you building send it to the server i don't know about that so i call it

00:24:07.220 and you should call it everybody should call it the slippery slope because it starts with guns

00:24:11.840 then it would be going to hey you're printing a mickey mouse figure that's copyrighted you can't

00:24:18.520 do that oh you're printing a part well you know that part you know you have to buy it from gm

00:24:24.460 for 900 you can't print it for 45 cents and all of a sudden the whole purpose goes down that road

00:24:31.820 do not even try to think that that's not the reason for it that is and in california is

00:24:39.420 most definitely going to get disneyfied in their 3d printing oh you can't print daffy duck that way

00:24:46.140 no no um you know early disney uh mickey mouse is now public domain so they'll allow that

00:24:54.460 But you've got to make sure the tail only curves this way and the hands only have this kind of glove on it.

00:25:00.260 This is a ridiculousness.

00:25:01.820 Now, intellectual property absolutely is vital.

00:25:06.080 But there has to be a point where it becomes public domain.

00:25:11.240 It really does.

00:25:13.260 And this is the problem with AI and the problem with 3D printing.

00:25:18.340 Getting back to El Salvador.

00:25:19.500 El Salvador will never have a law, as far as I can understand.

00:25:23.800 at least the laws that are being enacted now, that's going to make it illegal for you to print

00:25:28.620 anything. And if you print a gun and you use it, you're going to face the same criminal prosecution

00:25:35.480 as if you smuggled a gun or had airdrops from a drone from a country. I mean, the bottom line is

00:25:44.680 all of these rules and regulations do nothing but retard the development of technology in a country

00:25:51.700 where it's being imposed. So that's one of the reasons why I'm really excited for what El Salvador

00:25:58.760 is doing. And most importantly, and one of the reasons why I agreed to be involved, is that the

00:26:05.620 entire population is being lifted up. We have Grok being given to every student, if they want it,

00:26:13.160 for their entire student existence and their adult life. So they can build a relationship with this

00:26:19.680 AI. Ultimately, I want everybody to have personal AI, but if you don't have that,

00:26:25.140 Grok is your best alternative because of the way it's been first principles.

00:26:30.460 Brian, what do you mean between the difference of Grok or personal AI?

00:26:35.720 A personal AI is an AI that you can trust because it's on your device and it never goes on to a

00:26:42.280 cloud and that you can build a relationship and rapport with it. And of course, make it as

00:26:48.500 hacker proof as possible. I can go into the technology behind that. It being never on the

00:26:53.880 internet is one of those things. And there's ways that you interact with it where it's not on a

00:26:58.960 network. The reason why personal AI is so powerful is it's changed my life. I've been using personal

00:27:06.260 AIs for 30 years. Your ability to remember things, recall things, not to use it as a weapon against

00:27:14.820 people you love and care about but to allow yourself to have continuity hey did i say that

00:27:20.580 one time before or did i make that connection and your ai is interacting with you it's very powerful

00:27:26.260 we don't have that for most people today and i wouldn't want you to have that on the cloud

00:27:31.060 because now it's slurping up even more of your vital information and it may be protected but i

00:27:36.900 don't know if i trust that but in the grok sense in el salvador that's a different thing

00:27:43.460 It's not Google looking at your, you know, your notes and stuff like that. It's Grok,

00:27:48.820 and you have the ability to delete any of the information if you ever wanted to.

00:27:55.300 This is giving El Salvadorian students an incredibly powerful tool that allows them to

00:28:01.780 leapfrog ahead of even our students. Here, we're busy bickering on whether a student has,

00:28:10.420 you know wrote a paper using ai or if a math student used a calculator to solve a differential

00:28:19.620 equation or if somebody didn't use a slide or somebody used a slide roll and not a chalkboard

00:28:26.260 just you know you can keep going backwards and forwards in technology here's the reality ai is

00:28:32.020 not going away so the best solution is to empower the student on how to properly make this tool

00:28:41.220 work for them to become a more productive individual and more powerful in society

00:28:48.260 not weakened by it not one arm tied behind their back because there's going to be a

00:28:53.620 student somewhere else in the world that's going to have ai all around them so

00:28:58.180 So we're going to placate maybe some teachers who have not been trained on how to use AI

00:29:07.720 to be fearful.

00:29:09.980 Yes.

00:29:10.400 Okay.

00:29:11.080 Do I want somebody to be able to write an essay?

00:29:14.720 Absolutely.

00:29:16.240 The reality is all of us who are honest are going to say, hey, if I had AI when I was

00:29:21.600 a kid, I'm probably going to let AI write that essay and I'm going to try to make it

00:29:27.140 look like I did it myself. That's a reality. And anybody playing games with their mind that,

00:29:33.960 you know, hey, I walked 12 miles barefoot in the snow to school, that's bullshit. And that's just,

00:29:41.500 let's not even have that conversation because it's wasting everybody's time.

00:29:44.800 The best thing is to be realistic. Okay. So if that's the base state, what do we do?

00:29:50.640 number one is we organize teachers to understand that this is a powerful tool for everybody

00:29:58.280 everybody utilize this tool to make everybody become more powerful more productive more

00:30:07.340 prosperous so i'm just interrupting you so you're saying and i if all right so you're saying that

00:30:13.220 in school yeah use ai use the calculators use the slide ruler do it all because it's just going to

00:30:20.180 help you advance to the next step of what you're learning faster. You don't need to memorize all of

00:30:26.620 the dates and the this. Why? Let's just get ahead of that. We have a machine right there that's

00:30:34.460 going to fill in all the blanks for us, so let's just keep moving forward. I think that's crucial

00:30:39.140 because, like you said, other countries are just like, oh, we're going to do whatever it takes to

00:30:45.240 just keep going, going, going. We don't want to hold you back and teach you the same way you were

00:30:49.380 taught you know in 1950 it's not the industrial revolution which is no longer a thing right i mean

00:30:56.740 factory work is not coming back right highly skilled work is going to continue to thrive

00:31:02.900 but machines are going to be run by machines are there any schools here that let you do that

00:31:08.900 no not not not as an organized not as an organized thought process i tried in the early days

00:31:16.420 2023 i offered myself to as many education organizations i talked to a lot of teachers

00:31:23.620 there was a lot more fear of them losing their job than a fear of ai itself and you would have

00:31:31.220 to overcome that first and like you know if there shouldn't be a reason you should lose your job

00:31:36.260 you know there should be reasons for you to have more time with students now more time to

00:31:41.540 you know he spoke a a customized tailored program to the various students in your class

00:31:47.620 and what happened is as always is the keepers of the status quo that in this case the teachers

00:31:54.500 union put out directive the anti-ai and to be anti-tech so what what is going on and this is

00:32:04.980 leading into data centers which i'll get into in a second but i wanted to cap it off with el

00:32:09.700 salvador el salvador is embracing the technology saying this is the reality of the world we're

00:32:16.580 going to leapfrog our students into this modern world and they're going to have access to ai

00:32:22.500 and very soon robotics and maybe even space programs um which will allow this country

00:32:31.540 to not only outshine all of south america but perhaps all of the americas if we don't wake up

00:32:39.700 They had a lot more at stake, and they still have a lot more at stake than we have gone kind of lazy and abundantly rich in comparison to most of South America, and they have an opportunity to shine.

00:33:02.240 So that's why I'm saying that the population is being lifted up by all of these great things.

00:33:11.060 We have new libraries.

00:33:14.320 A new hospital is opened up this week.

00:33:17.060 It is a state-of-the-art medical facility for everybody in El Salvador.

00:33:23.880 And it's not because of socialism.

00:33:25.180 is because you have a broken system

00:33:27.300 that needs to be lifted up

00:33:28.940 and moved into a capitalistic system.

00:33:32.200 So it's a middle ground

00:33:34.060 and it's still private care,

00:33:36.520 but it's not a forced socialistic

00:33:38.380 Canadian or British type of medical care.

00:33:42.740 You know, you could still do private practice.

00:33:45.640 I think it's a great example.

00:33:47.420 And again, it's a very realistic type of scenario.

00:33:50.900 If you have older people

00:33:52.380 that have been part of other other regimes right and they're entering their twilight years you

00:34:00.020 can't all just automatically say okay go out and get the money old man and you know you get your

00:34:06.420 dialysis out of your own pocket so that's the reality right um in a perfect world all of the

00:34:16.300 market forces would allow this to work but you have to have that bandage and they're they're

00:34:21.740 embracing that by making it a class one facility but not only that we are using apps so that there

00:34:29.500 is no longer these long waits so in the old regime you would have to go to a facility with

00:34:36.140 lines out the door worse than dmv you know people sitting on the ground and waiting six seven hours

00:34:43.980 and then have to come back well i'm sorry that big uh tumor you're gonna have to wait another

00:34:49.180 seven to eight months to just get a biopsy sorry now you book it in an app you can actually have

00:34:56.220 an interaction with a professional inside the app and it can be accelerated into a triage environment

00:35:02.700 within days now that is what should be happening in the united states yeah and it's not it's not

00:35:11.180 it's not even close if you've if you know anybody that's going through the medicare system right now

00:35:15.900 it is disgusting yeah and what's going to happen is the medical treatments in a country like el

00:35:23.100 salvador which could be a great example is going to be fundamentally so much less costly that you

00:35:28.860 can actually offer more to everybody and still have money left over wow and this is the problem

00:35:36.460 i want to move i know me too i'm gonna move back a lot of people move to el salvador um i mean

00:35:44.140 people that you would not imagine that have moved there and it's not giving up on this country it's

00:35:50.620 just like hey i only got so many years left yeah and i'm sick of fighting all of this i mean one

00:35:55.820 person lived in la um they were impacted by the fires and their house didn't burn but it was darn

00:36:02.700 near close and they saw the writing on the wall and they said i'm out of here you know spencer

00:36:07.340 might do a great thing whatever but i mean when you've lost your house a lot of people don't

00:36:12.300 understand what that area of la was that was fourth generation wealth and that wealth was

00:36:19.660 somebody came out of world war ii bought a house on a piece of property that almost nobody really

00:36:26.060 wanted and it's hard for people to understand what that area was like but there were a lot

00:36:31.580 of mobile homes there in the old days we're talking right after world war ii and so you

00:36:37.420 had somebody on the gi bill get a piece of the american dream in an area of california where

00:36:44.300 it was still kind of rugged even in that era and they got themselves a world war ii house

00:36:50.140 you know there were nothing to speak much about and the world changed around them so

00:36:56.220 great grandpa's house got transferred to grandpa and the next generation did they were they able

00:37:02.860 to afford insurance for five million dollars no they own that house outright so when it got burned

00:37:09.660 down they got nothing and then to try to rebuild it you couldn't rebuild those houses under the

00:37:16.780 current rules because around them yeah all the rules change your septic system has to be this

00:37:22.860 big of a pipe you have to be this far of an offset from the border of the you would have a house the

00:37:28.700 size of a closet because that's how they built them in that era and instead of allowing people

00:37:34.700 to rebuild in place the rules are nope you have to rebuild to the new standards

00:37:40.220 and that takes years years nobody could afford that wasn't that the argument initially was just

00:37:47.500 let us rebuild exactly what we had the same footprint and you know that's that's really

00:37:53.180 disgusting because you are right the palisades are like that generational it was my great

00:37:58.360 grandparents house my grandparents house yeah nobody there was you know wealthy yeah a couple

00:38:04.800 wasn't like new money coming in and yeah oh that is really that's a sin and that's why that you

00:38:10.980 know to paint this politically on any side is bullshit yeah it's your freaking house it's all

00:38:17.900 you got yeah you won the lottery a lot of us win the lottery at times and some of us don't

00:38:23.160 But, you know, at least respect the fact that that was somebody's family generational house.

00:38:29.000 Most of them, not all of them, of course, some new money came in and bought up and then

00:38:34.080 knocked down the house and put up something great.

00:38:36.600 But that was not the high percentage.

00:38:38.920 The ones on the beach, yes, of course.

00:38:41.120 But you're 75 years old, you're living in the Palisades in your grandparents' house

00:38:45.360 and it burns down.

00:38:47.280 And now you're already like done with your work life.

00:38:50.320 your house is gone and everything you own was potentially burned in a fire and they're just

00:38:56.180 like sorry f off we can't help you the carpet beggars come moving in yeah and say hey i can

00:39:01.560 sit i can stick a condo here if we can get the height restrictions we'll go 25 stories we'll

00:39:08.660 make it look miami you know we'll put it right here and that's probably what's going to wind up

00:39:13.180 now you can you can go down all the rabbit holes on the where's and why's and how's i don't want

00:39:20.000 to do that today. But I can't say this. No matter how you feel about life, come down to the very

00:39:31.380 real possibility of what would it be like if that happened to you, right? That's all you have.

00:39:38.660 Sometimes that's all you got, right? You grew up in California. You couldn't have afforded to be

00:39:44.860 year because great-grandpa he took the risk and that's why we that's why we have this country

00:39:51.260 somebody in our bloodline took a risk and they did something that maybe maybe enriched us

00:39:58.940 four generations three generations later and you should be able to reward generations

00:40:06.780 yeah what a slap in their face right yes i mean well and we have a tax system the death taxes i

00:40:13.100 I mean, everybody wants to claw back wealth generationally.

00:40:17.500 And the only people that fall into that trap are the poor people.

00:40:22.160 And I mean poor, in this case, upper middle class to the lowest classes.

00:40:28.900 Because they're very wealthy.

00:40:30.440 They put their stuff into all sorts of trusts.

00:40:34.060 They generationally spend it forever.

00:40:37.680 But most people are just like, oh, grandpa died.

00:40:40.660 He didn't have a trust.

00:40:41.600 Oh, okay.

00:40:42.440 What happens?

00:40:43.100 Well, the state's going to take about 90 percent. Oh, oh, boy, you didn't think about it.

00:40:48.080 Oh, so that's what that's what happens. So anyway, cap it off in El Salvador.

00:40:54.860 What they're doing is an experiment, as is every government. Right.

00:41:01.360 And it seems to be working from a level on the street. Right.

00:41:06.940 You can go down San Salvador in the middle of the night and not have fear.

00:41:12.000 that that did not exist for at least three generations wow right so i'm i'm fast too he

00:41:20.260 did it so fast yeah and you break some eggs when you're making an omelet how long does he have as

00:41:26.360 um president uh the rest of his life i don't i yeah no like terms he changed the law to be able

00:41:35.060 to oh be forever president well that makes me want to move there well you know it makes me not

00:41:40.900 want to move in there but that's just my opinion well here here's the thing i don't want a dictator

00:41:44.980 i i don't i i don't but yeah el salvador i i i've offered my time gratis for the country

00:41:53.600 so this is this is all i know here's here's what i understand i understand that

00:42:00.620 we don't want necessarily one person to be in one position for a long time because that gives power

00:42:09.340 and it could be corrupting. But on the other side, moving people in who are slightly moving

00:42:15.740 off the center line, that's corrupting also. So this is a challenge we're always going to face

00:42:21.560 in any type of political environment. I would say, at the very least,

00:42:30.860 if the people want him, then maybe they should keep him, if the people want him.

00:42:37.200 And I don't know how that works out in that country. I don't know how that would work out in America either. I certainly would say that when it comes to presidential leadership, maybe give them more time. But I would say in representative and Senate leadership, I would say give everybody less time.

00:42:57.540 Yes. And I think that everybody could agree with that. So anyway, getting back to teachers and AI. Because our country has not unilaterally embraced technology in a way that is pro-human, it winds up matriculating down through society in bits and pieces. And it always looks draconian to most of us.

00:43:26.460 It's like, oh, they want the data centers so they can track all of us.

00:43:30.340 Why?

00:43:30.680 Yes, that's exactly why.

00:43:33.100 But that's not the only reason why.

00:43:35.340 So you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

00:43:39.080 The problem is political movements are being built right now.

00:43:43.400 I call it the anti-clanker movement.

00:43:46.060 And you might as well just picture somebody that's anti-Fa.

00:43:49.900 They're going to be the same types of people.

00:43:52.060 It's already happening.

00:43:53.500 and I don't think either side is ready for what this political wave is going to look like

00:44:00.600 but it's already being tapped uh unfortunately guys like Bernie and uh you know AOC uh are

00:44:09.100 are doing things to at least signal that they want to lead that that crowd and the unfortunate part

00:44:17.340 about that is one of the groups, teachers, is going to be part of that cohort, but also out of

00:44:24.200 work, medical people, and out of work, lawyers, and out of work, white collar workers who have

00:44:32.500 been displaced by AI. So you're going to see this new coalition being formed right in front of our

00:44:37.700 eyes. While we're looking at the left hand, the right hand's doing something else. This is what's

00:44:43.660 taking place. So does technology do bad things? Of course. I don't, if I knew social media would

00:44:53.120 have done the things I thought it did, I probably wouldn't have promoted people getting together on

00:44:58.300 social platforms. But, you know, I was back on BBS's typing away and I thought it was going to

00:45:05.240 be nerd pool time. And instead, it became duck lips into a camera on Instagram, you know, and

00:45:13.020 only fans, right? Where you can legalize, you know, visual prosecution anywhere in the country

00:45:24.160 or the world. So there are downsides. I'm not a utopian. I'm not trying to paint the world

00:45:30.040 in rainbows. But I am saying, don't take the other point of view. So the anti-data center thing

00:45:39.380 is a great example. It's going to be anti-robots walking the streets, by the way.

00:45:45.640 Get ready for that. I know it's a little hard to comprehend, but the anti-clanker movement,

00:45:50.080 I use that term because that's going to be what generationally we're going to remember this by.

00:45:55.260 You're going to see people with baseball bats, with masks on, and sometimes grandmom in their Nikes, hitting robots over the head with baseball bats.

00:46:08.020 And this is going to be the manifestation of expression of frustration over their life being changed by this technology.

00:46:18.600 What are these walking robots doing walking around?

00:46:21.340 they're going to be going to the store they already do that i mean in the la riots last

00:46:28.820 year or a year ago their waymos were uh they did it where the waymos would go down to a certain

00:46:35.480 place in la and they destroyed all of them you know they do it with the little cute little uh

00:46:41.660 robot that takes your food and there's videos of people destroying that little cute robot well

00:46:47.620 So people will destroy anything that they think they can destroy.

00:46:50.880 We're watching that in real time.

00:46:52.660 But I'm just like, what are these robots actually?

00:46:54.680 Are they going to get my groceries?

00:46:56.460 Is that what's happening?

00:46:57.800 It'll be doing anything any human would normally have done.

00:47:01.040 And it's going to happen faster than any of us could imagine.

00:47:05.360 And of course, initially, it's going to be kind of what the iPhone effect was.

00:47:10.920 If we're old enough to remember when the first iPhones came out, there was an arrogance that

00:47:16.600 was attached to the fact that somebody could afford an iphone or even an ipod with the white

00:47:21.480 uh with the white uh headphones right when you were walking down the street when the ipod first

00:47:26.420 came out and you saw somebody with white headphones like well they have money or something

00:47:29.980 it was a class thing when you posted that walkman video the sony walkman oh my god am i i mean my

00:47:37.880 brother and i got one for christmas like that was our gift was the walkman we each got one cassette

00:47:42.260 I think I got the Beach Boys.

00:47:44.140 I forget what he got.

00:47:45.560 And oh my God, we were like with these things.

00:47:48.720 And it was, yeah, you were just like,

00:47:50.840 you were the shit if you had one.

00:47:52.800 Yeah.

00:47:53.660 So now look at us.

00:47:55.240 Now look at us.

00:47:56.040 Yeah.

00:47:56.360 So this happened with Google Glass, right?

00:47:58.740 Google Glass was released

00:48:00.020 and it was released the worst possible way

00:48:03.420 you could do that.

00:48:04.760 And they got self-important individuals

00:48:08.720 to get the glasses.

00:48:10.220 not only could you not afford them you had to wait in a certain club line and get chosen by

00:48:16.660 the right people to wear them they were all nerds my good friend uh robert scoble was one of them

00:48:22.120 he wore him in his shower as a as a joke and he became the the the glass hole uh example and so

00:48:29.940 if if you showed up with google glass at a bar people would start challenging you are you taping

00:48:35.700 me and how dare you that whole thing that's going to be manifested in humanoid robots in a way that

00:48:43.160 we don't even have an understanding for because part of us are going to be like yeah that a-hole

00:48:50.260 has got his robot walking around picking up why can't he get out of the car and that's going to

00:48:55.900 be the first phase and we're going to get enamored by that first phase because everybody's going to

00:49:00.800 to hate the rich guy that's you know nerding out but it's going to rapidly transition into

00:49:06.880 emergency workers uh police standoffs you know and then all of a sudden it become normalized

00:49:13.120 we'll get used to it at stores and a lot of us gonna be cranky old man i get it i don't want to

00:49:18.720 you know robot get these clankers out of here yeah yeah but the reality is imagine yourself

00:49:26.640 having to get your diapers changed because we're all going to get there at some point

00:49:31.600 would you want a family member doing that a third party who really doesn't want the job

00:49:38.240 and doesn't care about you or a humanoid robot that has hung around with you for the last 10

00:49:43.760 years of your life and knows that it would take care of you and again i'm not talking about a

00:49:48.880 robot that's remote controlled by somebody in china i'm talking about one that you can demonstrate

00:49:54.240 that does not call home it is only local it only knows you nobody can hack it and it's taking care

00:50:00.320 of you in your final years i'm not saying replace the people that love you i'm saying hey i think

00:50:06.480 i'd rather have that than somebody that just came to this country this year who wants a citizenship

00:50:12.560 nothing wrong with that nothing wrong at all if you're coming here legally and wanna but they're

00:50:18.320 They're like, hey, I got to change old men's diapers while I work my way up to becoming

00:50:24.660 something else.

00:50:26.240 And so they might not be fully invested.

00:50:28.920 And thank God we have people that actually are fully invested in that job.

00:50:34.380 I'm not putting that down.

00:50:35.520 But talk to anybody that does that job.

00:50:38.440 There are less and less and less.

00:50:41.020 And some of the people that stay in it only stay in it because it's all that they can

00:50:45.580 do and they hate the job.

00:50:47.160 and they take it out on the patients i ask anybody you should do this anyway spend some time with old

00:50:54.160 people at some of these retirement homes just do it walk in and say hey when you guys all hang out

00:50:59.500 just want to meet people and talk they're gonna think it's the best yeah i've clocked a million

00:51:05.300 hours doing that yeah and uh you know i i think it gives you a perspective it also makes you

00:51:11.460 wonder why we broke up generational families, because there's no reason that people should be

00:51:17.280 isolated this way. There's no reason for it. But again, being a realist, I'd much rather have,

00:51:23.520 my mom was still around, I'd much rather have a robot that I could trust when I couldn't be there

00:51:29.520 and say, hey, it makes your mom ain't fallen and she's eating and taking her pills and stuff like

00:51:35.400 that. That would be freaking cool. But here's the problem. I'm giving you a real practical,

00:51:41.620 that's not utopian, that's going to happen in your lifetime. That's what I'm trying to protect

00:51:47.120 for all of us. In the bathwater of that baby, is these ugly data centers going to waste water? No,

00:51:55.380 they aren't, right? But the water, no, that's because your water pipes have been bad for a

00:52:01.260 long time and the city officials would rather point at Amazon than their own misappropriations

00:52:08.500 of upgrading infrastructure, right? What happens when a data center might come into an area

00:52:13.660 is temporarily to fill a closed loop system. Some of it evaporates, but not a lot.

00:52:20.520 The pipes may start showing somewhere because that area did not have so much water going through it

00:52:26.660 for so long and all of a sudden brown water starts showing up and that's a problem but the finger

00:52:32.740 pointing is a political motive uh why do we need so many well we're going to need less if we were

00:52:38.740 if it was 1963 and we were talking about everybody having a computer we'd be talking about everybody

00:52:44.020 putting in a three-story structure with cooling and wires and electrical because they're all main

00:52:49.700 frames right they're all these big main frames guess what everything big in electronics gets

00:52:55.620 smaller that's called moore's law so the data centers they build today are for today pretty

00:53:01.700 much we'll continue to fill them out until they start getting smaller and smaller until ai is

00:53:07.940 just on a phone everything you could possibly want is right here you don't need a data center

00:53:13.140 it's happening right there that's where we're going but we need that middle ground because we

00:53:19.060 are competing on a world stage and if we don't have the data centers you might as well start

00:53:25.300 learning Mandarin Chinese because they will dominate what the next revolution is, which is

00:53:31.320 AI and robotics. Robots are AI in motion. There's no different. You know, it just happens to control

00:53:37.920 world, physical space. And I get it. Most folks listening to this can discern this. I know Scott's

00:53:46.780 audience could discern this fine line, but the people who draw in crayons, they don't discern it.

00:53:54.280 it's like technology bad okay yeah where'd you write that well i wrote it on my iphone

00:54:01.840 i get it where'd it go through well it went through a data center i see you know it's like

00:54:07.000 it's a classic thing where somebody hasn't been trained how the world works where does electricity

00:54:11.920 come well it comes from the light switch i see right what about all the people maintain it i

00:54:17.620 don't know i don't know you if you see some of these interviews with unfortunately some of our

00:54:23.160 last group of students that are graduating this year you ask them where electricity comes from

00:54:28.520 they're like i don't know the the telephone pole or something you know i don't know nothing it's

00:54:35.560 scary and that's our failure yeah all of our society's failure is not on that child it's on

00:54:43.580 the infrastructure surrounding that child that produced it as a student i'm into radical

00:54:49.860 responsibility. Should they be responsible themselves? Of course. But you kick them out

00:54:57.500 at 18 and say, okay, now go into the world. They're not prepared. They are prepared like a

00:55:03.540 four-year-old was in the 1950s. And that is a major failure. So the same is true about these

00:55:11.520 data centers. I hear people complaining about it. I'm like, well, what do you do? I do TikTok and

00:55:16.040 YouTube's. Oh yeah. You know, you, you, you, well, where do you think that's coming from?

00:55:20.500 Well, I don't know. Well, it's, it turns out YouTube spends more electricity than most of

00:55:27.480 AI data centers combined on people watching cat videos. And let's not get into TikTok.

00:55:33.340 We don't talk about that because we're being reframed into hating AI. We're being reframed

00:55:41.220 into hating robotics. And I'm talking about the robotics a lot now because you haven't been

00:55:46.760 trained enough to hate it enough yet. You will. You will because that's the programming.

00:55:52.840 Brian, do you have an extra like 10 minutes? Absolutely.

00:55:56.420 Okay, good. We're going to go just you guys to 1010, okay? Because I have to actually go too.

00:56:01.740 So I think the thing with the data centers, we're lumping it all in. I know I'm doing this too,

00:56:08.400 to wind turbines, solar panels. So they're polluting, you know, they're just, they're

00:56:16.480 saying, oh, it's for the environment in the name of green energy. But I live here at the Jersey

00:56:21.060 shore and long story short, they're killing the sea life with the ones they want to put in the

00:56:26.420 ocean. The whales are dying, dolphins, fish. And then when they break, they just fall into the

00:56:31.740 ocean and rot and rust. And there's, you know, blah, blah, blah. The, the solar panels, you know,

00:56:36.640 put them on top of buildings if you want to put them somewhere, but they're just taking up like

00:56:40.680 fields and fields and acres and acres and acres. And then one hail storm, they're all junk.

00:56:45.940 You know, so then the data centers, if they do end up becoming smaller and smaller and smaller,

00:56:50.240 well, we've now ruined neighborhoods and, you know, a bajillion acres of property.

00:56:56.600 People's property values are going to go down. They can't sell their house. You know, they're

00:57:00.200 noisy. It's not attractive. So it's like all these things seem like they're starting for

00:57:07.660 a good cause, but then what do we do when it wreaks havoc on the everyday people? I feel like

00:57:12.940 everything that we're doing to advance, this is my opinion, is just taking a toll on everything

00:57:18.960 that's already here, like people and animals and ecology and everything else. So I think that's

00:57:25.440 a problem for me is where I see like, Oh, this one's going to be on 62, 62 square miles. And

00:57:31.200 this one's going to be here. And then you see people and they're like humming in the back

00:57:35.200 and their backyard and now eminent domain. And we're going to take all of your property up to

00:57:40.060 where your pool is. And the rest of it, we're just taking. So it just seems like we're sacrificing

00:57:47.020 like our simple civility and our rights for things like that potentially might not need to

00:57:54.680 be as big as they are right now because it won't be as efficient later. You make some great points

00:57:59.700 and I absolutely agree with all of them, actually. So if you study the railroads and the eminent

00:58:06.240 domain of how the railroads took place, and you really study it from everybody's perspective,

00:58:12.000 including Native Americans, we sound a whole lot like, and I agree, we sound a whole lot like the

00:58:17.540 Native Americans. And, you know, the Northerners are coming in and they're putting their steel

00:58:23.980 orrises through the middle of our, you know, bison area. So this is always the problem with

00:58:31.460 progress. And I'm not going to tell you that I know where the balance is, but I do know where

00:58:37.640 the corruption is. You have corrupt politicians who are being motivated to take over certain

00:58:43.780 loss of land and certain use of eminent domain because they're getting paid to do that. So

00:58:51.160 you're seeing the face of corruption sometimes in that there's no reason that the data centers need

00:58:56.680 to be near anybody right no reason for that so if you're seeing a data center being put near

00:59:03.480 residential homes to a greater extent that's a failure of creativity it's a failure of the

00:59:09.320 individuals involved right look at meta what they're putting out there for those poor people

00:59:14.200 that live there yeah there's there this this is why this issue needs to be fine-tuned and reframed

00:59:22.280 so you understand it that's why i'm spending some time on it because i know how everybody feels um

00:59:30.200 it's not a black and white issue where you can just say i want data centers and notice i didn't

00:59:35.000 say that i'm i'm basically saying ultimately they're going to be in space and they're going

00:59:39.800 going to go after elon for putting them in space well they're going to blot out the sun you know

00:59:44.360 do you know how many satellites you would have to put up before it even becomes an issue about

00:59:50.780 a hundred trillion billion before you would actually see them yeah uh it's space is a big

00:59:58.440 place right now are they handling the the orbital positions the best they could no it's because we

01:00:06.620 other countries throwing junk up there saying uh we'll let that we'll let that booster hang out for

01:00:12.220 a couple of 10 20 years tumbling maybe one day to hit a satellite you know they do have to maneuver

01:00:19.340 sometimes um but yeah elon talks about putting them in space and on the moon which i believe

01:00:24.460 is the best place for them and then you have people saying well it's going to blight the moon

01:00:28.700 and someday you're going to look at the moon it'll be nothing but data centers there's always going

01:00:32.540 to be this iterative thing about technology so we need to find our balance so to be pro

01:00:41.420 or con on either side is absolutely is absolutely ridiculous but to fall into the line of

01:00:50.300 parties you know the dems are for this and the republicans are for that that's ridiculous too

01:00:56.780 because a lot of the people making these statements are utterly clueless on both sides

01:01:02.540 I mean, I hear ridiculous things being, you know, rolled out.

01:01:06.640 I hope I don't upset anybody.

01:01:08.100 But I mean, reality is they don't really understand what they're talking about.

01:01:12.340 Data centers do not continuously suck up water.

01:01:16.260 It's a closed loop system, very much like a really good radiator of a car.

01:01:22.920 Yes, some will steam off, but not like the entire radiator unless you got something going wrong.

01:01:29.600 You have a cooling system.

01:01:30.980 Are they noisy?

01:01:31.720 if you build them the wrong way they're really noisy if you're cheap and you're stupid about it

01:01:36.880 yes and ultimately i mean i ran bitcoin miners out of my home you know and they were noisy

01:01:43.880 because you know i was mining bitcoin i ultimately emerged them i put them into a mineral

01:01:49.220 water what the heck is going on at brian's house is what i want to know i'm i'm i'm going to fly

01:01:56.140 out to cal i've got to i've got to see what's happening over there i got my saturn five here

01:02:00.500 So I don't want to take everybody's time on this, but basically the idea is we don't get a choice about the wave that's coming at us.

01:02:12.720 We get a choice on whether we ride it or we get washed out into it.

01:02:16.660 That is the reality.

01:02:18.280 As much political might as you think you might have in this country, you still have other countries.

01:02:24.500 and they may or may not agree with what our Bernie Sanders or AOC says.

01:02:31.680 Bernie wants to tax every AI company, or not tax it, own 50% of AI companies

01:02:37.600 so that that can pay for people who are out of work.

01:02:40.980 And that's a classic, somebody who's not, I'm not getting into politics,

01:02:45.600 I'm just getting into the math, somebody who does not think about how these things work.

01:02:50.040 I mean, as it is, most of the AI companies are ridiculously formed anyway.

01:02:55.760 I mean, when you look at what Anthropics, you know, status is going to look like when their S1 is public, it's ridiculous.

01:03:02.940 Well, we're not we're here to make a profit, but we're not going to make a profit because we want to be a public goods company.

01:03:08.100 And we want to make sure that we make sure that the public is always being served.

01:03:12.740 And none of it makes any sense.

01:03:14.700 A company exists to make profit for its shareholders.

01:03:17.640 That's the reality.

01:03:18.520 Right.

01:03:18.960 Right? And then we vote to try to curtail the impact that it may have within a society we want to live in. And we try to do that in a way that's most fair, and it reflects our Constitution and our Bill of Rights. That's what we formed here in this country. And it ain't perfect. It's always going to be an experiment.

01:03:39.780 But to automatically say that the government is going to own half of all robot companies and half of all AI companies, China's not even doing that.

01:03:52.200 China's just basically saying, hey, you just make us dominate the world and we're cool.

01:03:57.920 So you guys go at it.

01:04:00.280 That's not what we're doing.

01:04:01.740 We're doing everything we can to retard our growth.

01:04:05.040 Let's not train our kids on how to use AI.

01:04:07.980 let's make everybody mad at technology some some people like Kevin O'Leary has

01:04:13.920 come out to say that China has funded some of and he has proof that he showed

01:04:21.420 that some of the funding some of the groups that are anti data centers for

01:04:25.560 his data center in Utah are China affiliated or funded so you know Kevin's

01:04:35.580 great guy. I like him as a public image, but I don't think he's the best public image for data

01:04:41.000 centers in the United States. I think, unfortunately, he's a Canadian also. And it's unfortunate

01:04:48.480 that that has become the face of data centers, because there's a lot of negative things that

01:04:55.120 come along with somebody that's running an investment show and calls himself Mr. Wonderful.

01:05:01.400 there's there it doesn't it's not really the right image for this and unfortunately i don't know of

01:05:08.880 anybody i'm not going to be the person i don't know if anybody wants to go up and actually

01:05:12.640 articulate this correctly because all of the politicians are trying to ride the horse that

01:05:18.300 they want to get on it's like okay 2028 what horse you know this ai thing what side do i want to be

01:05:24.320 on they're all playing this game i talk to a lot of their staffers i there's not a week that doesn't

01:05:29.120 go by that. I don't talk to somebody's staffer. Well, what do you think a position should be on

01:05:33.300 this? And what do you think about that? And it's like, you guys are shifting your angles. You

01:05:37.520 better pick a direction and ride with it, or you're going to be sidelined by the anti-clanker

01:05:44.240 movement. And the reason why I want everybody listening to be aware of this is use your own

01:05:50.620 thoughts, use your own reframes, ask yourself, okay, do I, do I want to live like they lived

01:05:59.080 in the early 1800s? That's fine. You can do that. But if I want to continue to evolve with

01:06:06.140 this technology, then it's incumbent upon you to invest the time to nuance what this discussion

01:06:15.340 is about don't get angry and say get off my lawn and you know get it you know it's really easy to

01:06:22.860 get that way nuance it and say okay ryan recommended this idea about a a home health care robot

01:06:31.740 i personally think the most ideal circumstance is people can leave this place in their own homes

01:06:39.100 with their own robots taking care of them the way they want to with the dignity that they want

01:06:46.380 not in a situation where everybody stacked up like inventory at a retirement home um

01:06:55.500 where they are isolated and less and less part of the problem is a lot of people don't want to

01:07:02.380 go to a retirement home not because their grandparents are there but because the others

01:07:07.180 are there and they have to see it and it's it's depressing someday i might be there that sounds

01:07:12.740 very self-righteous but i've heard so many people who are normally very nice people saying stuff

01:07:19.660 like that i'm like you know have you heard what you're saying you don't want to go there so you

01:07:24.000 don't want to have to see the other people that are there that's kind of sucks but that is a

01:07:28.460 reality for a lot of folks oh it smells like diapers in there it's like well yeah that's

01:07:33.160 because that's what goes on, man.

01:07:35.060 Maybe the robots in those places would be good too, right?

01:07:38.780 Yeah, of course.

01:07:40.040 And again, I'm not advocating eliminating humans,

01:07:43.420 but if you can't get the humans to do it

01:07:45.480 with honor, dignity, and respect,

01:07:47.460 by all means, certainly I would much rather see a robot.

01:07:51.400 The same is true about a cyber.

01:07:53.180 You know, I call it the dynamic duo,

01:07:55.560 which I encourage a lot of people to participate in,

01:07:58.880 where somebody would own a self-driving car,

01:08:01.640 like a cyber taxi cyber cab and a optimist and it can go out and do work and it's like hey you know

01:08:09.280 there's a there's a carpenter it needs some help well yeah i'll send my optimist down and you can

01:08:14.360 pay and do eight hours of work and come back home and you're earning money on this or it's taking

01:08:19.860 care of you or like i said you're sending it down downtown to pick something up that you don't want

01:08:25.380 to do and all of a sudden a couple of anti-clankers start knocking over your your robot uh

01:08:32.220 it's it's it looks like a dystopian movie but guess what there are places in the world like

01:08:39.480 china that if you are do any abuse to somebody's robot you're 25 years in jail oh jeez you can you

01:08:48.360 can do whatever you want here and not go to jail so instantly that changes the outlook on everybody

01:08:54.480 Oh, if we did that, that would be amazing, but we won't.

01:08:58.220 I think you need to raise the public protection of property to such a high level where it disincentivizes political groups from doing this.

01:09:10.820 If we don't do that, we're not going to make it through this interregnum.

01:09:15.820 I know. I'm thinking, Brian, you know, that's Stella crying. If anyone hears like a whining cat, it's a whining cat. She's fine.

01:09:23.500 Um, so what I'm thinking is, you know, it would be totally different if we had a functioning

01:09:29.820 government that put its citizens first and was like, you know what, um, we're going to put these

01:09:35.600 data center ends. We're going to make, we're going to make sure we don't put them anywhere

01:09:38.360 near where anybody lives. We're going to put the solar panels on top of the data centers,

01:09:43.680 you know, like make it make sense. Uh, we'll stick a windmill on top of that.

01:09:47.940 And then everything's in one little cluster. Um, but that's not what's happening. And so

01:09:52.960 same thing, like about having robots, like we don't enforce our laws that are already on the

01:09:57.260 books. You know, people are committing crimes all over the place, getting let out, reoffending,

01:10:02.340 killing people. So you're just like, I don't see how this fits into what we now have to recognize

01:10:07.760 as an uncivilized society for lack of better words. But I mean, you look at El Salvador,

01:10:13.680 it's like, yeah, I'm sure they could have robots walking everywhere right now because they know

01:10:17.180 the consequences if they mess around but here we're just like it just feels like the government's

01:10:23.420 always like on the take and we want your money we want your this and we're going to take your land

01:10:26.940 and we're going to kill the environment we're going to put this here and you have no choice but

01:10:30.140 so i think until people that live here start to feel seen and respected the these fast advancements

01:10:39.100 are going to just get met with you know disapproval even though they might be necessary you make some

01:10:45.740 great points but here's here's what i would urge everybody to do we need to we need to shift this

01:10:55.340 conversation to what's going to empower us as individuals right i want every individual to

01:11:03.180 own the most powerful ai that can ever possibly exist as i would want everybody to own a pen

01:11:11.020 and own the right to read in our generation the one of the ways you controlled society is you

01:11:17.980 didn't let people learn to read or when you did let them learn to read you learned english we

01:11:24.140 have latin the latin was the bifurcation between the lower classes and you know in english right so

01:11:32.300 So I don't want to get into the big history of it.

01:11:37.600 But when the group of the Shakespeare's, because it wasn't one person, decided to make English into an intellectual language,

01:11:47.560 it was a transformation of the lower classes because we were able to read things that we weren't allowed to read before, one being the Bible.

01:11:56.780 The Bible was not allowed to be read by most people, although they coveted it and they wanted to read it.

01:12:01.680 but they didn't even know the language because the first ones were in a language they couldn't

01:12:05.320 understand. So they were mouthing words. I mean, that's how, that's how much people cared about

01:12:11.160 knowledge. At one time it was a death sentence to own certain books. Um, and that's how much

01:12:17.920 people cared. I'm asking people to take that same stance about technology that's going to empower

01:12:25.580 you. Rather, all right, the data centers are being rolled out the wrong way. It's not being

01:12:32.540 communicated at all. Certainly the energy program was communicated the wrong way. The no nukes

01:12:38.040 program was an anti-capitalist movement to begin with. I mean, it forced the nuclear power plants

01:12:44.300 to be in the worst possible places. And he did the worst possible things. And he had no plan to

01:12:50.040 get rid of the refuse of a nuclear program, which, by the way, we could have used much better

01:12:56.580 nuclear things like sodium, things that China is now using from our old research to make nuclear

01:13:03.460 work. And now we have Gen 4 nuclear, but people are so afraid of it because of the first rollout

01:13:09.280 of nuclear. Yes. And this is what's happening right now. And it's happening in real time.

01:13:14.880 So how do we fix it? I'll give some quick things. You start with students, but you have to start

01:13:20.580 with teachers. If AI companies were to approach me and say, Brian, how do we fix our public

01:13:26.060 relations problem? I would say this summer, you take every teacher you can and you put them into

01:13:33.400 seminars. You pay everything necessary to get them to come out and build partnerships with them,

01:13:39.740 understanding how to deploy and utilize AI. About 25% are not going to care and they're going to do

01:13:45.840 what they're going to do. But I believe that 75% are going to be like, you know what, this ain't

01:13:51.740 such a bad thing. And they're giving me these resources and tools on how to empower our students

01:13:57.400 to become more powerful with this new tool that we invented. So that instead of hanging their hand

01:14:03.020 to drive in a nail, we now invented a hammer. Now, of course, the people who build up the

01:14:09.400 muscle memory of using their hand to drive in a nail that, well, they're going to be

01:14:13.320 fresh out of luck. But look at the hammer users that have democratized more people to have access

01:14:19.840 to building. That's the promise of this. More people are democratized to utilizing knowledge

01:14:26.600 that they would never in any other world have had access to. I'll give you this example.

01:14:32.820 Throughout most of my young life, I dreamed of the idea of what would the world be like if

01:14:37.900 everybody had access to all the information that ever existed i wonder what it would be like well

01:14:43.420 we're living in it right now it's called the internet has it really changed us no because

01:14:48.060 we haven't functionally changed the way we thought about ourselves and about the world

01:14:53.900 the same is going to happen with ai with an ai model you have the ability to do anything you

01:14:59.100 don't need anybody's permission at all you don't need to find an expert it's right there now is

01:15:05.900 it perfect no but is every expert perfect no you can build a consensus of expertise with dozens of

01:15:15.180 ai models and you can do anything you possibly could have thought of right now and we're busy

01:15:21.900 beating each other over the head like we're cave people it's like a caveman it's like oh you're

01:15:27.020 doing this and it's like you can invent anything if we empower young young people to know that they

01:15:33.900 have this power you student have the power to change the world in a way that nobody else ever

01:15:41.500 had no king ever had this power it's in your hands do you understand the responsibility you have do

01:15:48.780 you understand the power you have to change that is exciting i give this talk to young people and

01:15:54.460 like nobody's ever told me that it's like well this is what you have this is what el salvador

01:15:59.820 is going to be teaching. It's part of their curriculum. Do you think that's part of our

01:16:03.960 curriculum? No. Do you think, would I volunteer to help the United States do this? Yeah. It's

01:16:11.820 very simple. A country, I have five countries that are listening to me to do this and they're

01:16:17.420 already, they've already tested, one country has already tested. It's now three semesters and they

01:16:23.500 have exploded in productivity with their students they are bright-eyed ready for the future they

01:16:30.380 don't care about careers anymore see this is what we need to have to do because nobody has a

01:16:36.780 guaranteed career anymore and and that's a hard thing to take yeah that's the industrial revolution

01:16:43.580 that we've been in through we're now post-industrial revolution we're in the individual revolution you

01:16:50.380 now can become a company. You now can do anything. So that gives you more responsibility and more

01:16:56.920 power. Now you have to be intellectually lifted up to that level, emotionally lifted up to that

01:17:03.500 level. Is it going to happen in one generation? No, but it can and it must, or it's going to be

01:17:09.540 a thousand years of the Flintstones. Why do we have to go that far back?

01:17:14.500 yeah i don't know i love flintstones yeah flintstones funny rubble because i think what

01:17:20.980 happens is if we if we give ourselves this lobotomy oh look at that cat oh if we give

01:17:28.780 ourselves this lobotomy we're going to go back really rapidly and the infrastructure in a

01:17:36.360 political elites that built this infrastructure are going to rapidly implode and it's happening

01:17:42.600 it's part of the fourth turning. We're in a cyclical period. We have to deal with this

01:17:48.280 reality of the change. I'm just telling people, you can fix this. We can start with the teachers.

01:17:56.520 And I'm not saying all of them are going to be fixed. I know there's people saying it's

01:18:01.440 unredeemable. I'm not that pessimistic. I've talked to a lot of them. They just need the

01:18:07.360 resources. I sit down with them for 20 minutes and say, nobody in the administration ever told

01:18:13.080 me I can do that. I go, do it here. Here's a prompt. Do this. And I can only talk to so many

01:18:19.320 people. But I've not met one person in that educational environment where I can turn around

01:18:26.040 and say, you need to do this with the students. And once a student is activated, they now look

01:18:30.920 at the world in a much different way. They don't look at the world like, I'm going to be a doctor

01:18:35.680 forever it's like i'm going to continually build things based upon my own ideas and that's never

01:18:42.780 going to end i have this impossible it's impossible conceive of what i cannot do

01:18:50.220 right there's no barrier now a lot of people are in fear of that it's like well where's the

01:18:55.080 organization it self-organizes people will rise and fall amongst whatever they're in and some

01:19:02.520 people say, you know what, I'm going to be the best darn farmer I ever can be. And I can live

01:19:07.540 off the grid and I can do this because now I have robots and AI that allow me to do this. I don't

01:19:12.480 need to ask anybody's permission. And that's the problem. The biggest fear behind all of this

01:19:18.380 and the reason for centralized control is we're all going to break through the we need to ask

01:19:27.960 permission phase of humanity we're going we're going to break through that for better or for

01:19:33.380 worse because we have those tools and you have country companies sorry states like new york and

01:19:39.860 california say oh not so fast we're going to control with you 3d print you can't no no no

01:19:46.180 don't do that because we want control because your children and you're going to use guns and

01:19:51.700 everybody has guns and the last time that worked out in the west look what happened

01:19:55.600 Yeah, the country. Yeah. You know, that's the problem. And so if you if you take their reframes and I mean both sides and you don't articulate it yourself, you wind up falling into the trap of taking your generation and maybe the generations that are coming up after you and throwing them into hell because other parts of the world are not going to let this go down.

01:20:21.460 They're going to be like, they're already, in some ways, China is surpassing us.

01:20:26.440 I saw somebody say we're all in this together.

01:20:29.400 You know, we are.

01:20:30.720 So, you know, I could get like a little tingly and excited thinking about the kids, as you

01:20:37.200 use the words, leapfrogging and using every tool at their fingertips to their advantage.

01:20:42.920 You don't, you know, we always discuss like, is it important to learn algebra or can we

01:20:47.100 just use the tools that give you the solution?

01:20:49.580 Yeah, why not?

01:20:50.500 Um, so I, I, I'm thinking in order to be useful about this. So you have to get parents activated

01:20:59.480 about wanting their children. I think that's a kind of a first step are the parents and you got

01:21:05.260 to get rid of the teacher's union and you have to let schools become empowered and the parents are

01:21:12.380 going to have to bug the schools a lot, um, and, and make them aware that this is how we want our

01:21:19.260 kids to learn. So I feel like anybody listening to this, so if you can activate parents, you can

01:21:25.000 talk to schools and teachers, you've got to rail against the teachers unions. You've got to maybe

01:21:30.440 work with Corey DeAngelis and just say, let's just get one school to commit to leaving the

01:21:37.240 teachers union as a group. That might be an easier way for people to do it instead of individual

01:21:43.460 teachers. Have like a meeting with the schools and say, why don't we do this as a school together

01:21:49.040 we're going to get rid of the teachers unions you guys can get your own insurance as cory taught us

01:21:54.380 they get better insurance on their own through the other program and then say we want better for our

01:21:59.280 students they need to have everything they need to learn everything that's going to advance them

01:22:04.140 forward quickly now not later because if you are afraid of the jobs being gone they need to know

01:22:09.860 this now so i think that's another way of looking at it we all want to be useful i'm seeing the

01:22:16.940 vision that you're talking about, Brian. And I agree with you. And hearing it your way is

01:22:22.260 important to me because I think if you don't start giving kids the advantage of leapfrogging,

01:22:29.000 then maybe that's why all this other stuff to me feels futile because it's only a few people that

01:22:35.160 know how to use this stuff anyway. So I think that we would feel more confident about our children

01:22:41.620 having a fighting chance in the future if they were already implementing these things in school

01:22:46.860 and kids are so smart. I mean, they could start this in kindergarten. So, okay. So I feel better

01:22:53.080 about that. Well, let me say this. I don't want to leave people with the wrong impression.

01:22:57.960 We must have critical thinking. We must reward critical thinking. The reason why we do math and

01:23:04.620 wrote things is not so much to know the math. It's to know the critical thinking of logic and

01:23:10.300 how we arrived at that. Now we can utilize a lot of different mechanisms to get at that level,

01:23:16.400 but that can't be thrown away that actually has to be highlighted but there's one thing that needs

01:23:21.580 to be really brought back and that's creative thinking yes so we have eliminated creative

01:23:27.940 thinking in the industrial revolution most recently the 1980s it was like extracted

01:23:33.960 the 50s there was a little can-do era 70s there was still some of it left the can-do era is

01:23:41.440 1870 to 1970 in my view. And that's where we had the most creative, most productive group of

01:23:49.120 individuals ever to see on this planet. And it dropped dramatically from that period for a lot

01:23:54.720 of reasons. Now, plus or minus 10 years, but certainly when words cost a lot of money,

01:24:01.300 the ideas that were expressed were well thought out. When words don't cost money and anybody with

01:24:07.380 two thumbs and a glass screen can claw out some caveman response? Absolutely. Now words are free

01:24:15.240 and cheap and nobody really cares. And it makes us immune to the powerful words and the powerful

01:24:21.060 ideas. So we have to discern our students saying, hey, not all words are equal. Not all ideas are

01:24:27.460 equal. You need to have discernment. You need to reward creativity. You need to reward people who

01:24:34.560 are the nail sticking out of the wood, the oddball characters, the people that refuse to conform to

01:24:41.680 anything. The lack of conformity is exactly why we're here. We've broken out of patterns of

01:24:50.040 this is the way it's always going to be. God and nature has never given us the way it's always

01:24:55.580 going to be. There's certain fundamental rules written in stone, but everything around that

01:25:03.520 is is gestating into its its complexity so teachers of course need to be there teachers

01:25:11.200 need to foster out and sometimes pull out creativity that is not seen a good teacher

01:25:17.680 saved a couple good teachers saved my life if they didn't show me who i was

01:25:23.040 i wouldn't be here right now i i shudder to think where i would have been in jersey in that in that

01:25:28.240 environment hey hey you'd be at delaney hall rioting right now yeah and so i i value what

01:25:37.920 a good teacher can do especially an old good teacher i think that yes we don't have enough

01:25:44.000 old teachers yep is a testament of our failure it used to be a lifelong commitment of love

01:25:51.360 one of my oldest teachers was in her 70s mrs brown and she grabbed me by the ear

01:25:58.240 and told me how it was.

01:25:59.780 And it was like, wow, it got my attention.

01:26:04.200 And she would bring in her baked goods.

01:26:07.520 None of this is legal anymore.

01:26:10.160 But my point is,

01:26:12.280 we have disenfranchised the youth to such a level

01:26:17.900 where we're like, oh, well, when I was your age,

01:26:20.380 I was already out earning a living.

01:26:21.940 Well, you know, you're not in this world with those kids.

01:26:26.040 they were not raised with the same tools.

01:26:30.040 You can't blame that kid.

01:26:31.600 You gotta blame the people who are saying,

01:26:33.440 oh, you don't need this, you can get a job

01:26:35.600 in human resources and gender diversification

01:26:38.740 and you'll have a career for the rest of your life.

01:26:40.580 And these kids are being put out into the street.

01:26:43.860 They didn't necessarily want, here's the problem.

01:26:46.220 Those kids didn't necessarily want that career.

01:26:49.680 They were formed into that career through 18 years

01:26:54.680 years of formation of schooling and all of a sudden they're dropped out into the world

01:27:00.600 and they're like hold it the whole system that i was built for is being decoupled what am i going

01:27:06.520 to do and of course they're going to be running to their emotional support pet because the world

01:27:12.120 that they were promised by the adults were was not there they were lied to so of course they're

01:27:18.320 going to hate technology too right because they have a student loan and their job was taken by

01:27:23.820 technology. So summer of 2028, guess what? You're going to see a lot of those people out in the

01:27:31.100 street changing politics to the level we've never seen it before. If we don't get our act together,

01:27:37.880 I'm talking about both sides. Everybody thinks they're going to ride the beast. This beast is

01:27:43.420 forming and it's not going to be pretty. And it's being influenced by foreign governments. There's

01:27:48.240 no doubt about it. So it's these people here who have great discernment, because you're here,

01:27:55.320 you're still listening to us talk. You need to help change the world. You need to help discern

01:28:00.940 this. You need to help reframe it. Say, hey, the data center, for or against? What? I'm sorry.

01:28:08.120 It's not an on and off switch. It's not. I'm against it being next to my built-in pool.

01:28:14.560 That's it. Yeah. But I'm for this technology that's going to allow us to be here for the next 250 years. I'm here for that, our way of life, this amalgamation of people we call Americans who have agreed to commit to this experiment of freedom and liberty and a republic.

01:28:40.500 I want that to continue on. And I want to leave the place a little better than when I came into it. Because right now, if we all croak, we're leaving a place worse off than when we got in here. That's a fact. And so it's easy to point at the kids. It's easy to get mad at them because they're the front face of it.

01:29:01.840 But think. Think about it. Before you start getting so angry about those liberal kids with the rags on their faces, they are tools. They are puppets being manipulated. And if you got the gumption, sit down and talk to one. Say, hey, what's going on? And when you get down to it, they're scared out of their heads.

01:29:21.960 and a lot of the anti-movement started in 2008 when the entire financial bubble collapsed and

01:29:30.720 they saw their parents lose their homes lose their relationships divorces suicides jobs gone

01:29:37.620 that started a repercussion that we're still living through today and the ai and robotics

01:29:44.940 thing could be that times a thousand and so if you if you want to help change spend time with

01:29:52.860 old people and spend time with young people and don't debate politics because those are talking

01:29:58.700 points debate hey what do you want from your life i don't know you'll start crying you talk to an 18

01:30:05.980 19 year old they have no hope you talked off them it's like well i i hoped my my guidance counselor

01:30:13.260 told me well what about your parents well my mom's on her third husband and my dad i don't know where

01:30:19.260 he is right well who raised you um a group of people my grandparents but they're getting old and

01:30:27.820 so you have to start looking at our society and you can get again point fingers at different

01:30:32.860 political parties fine we got this problem now what are you going to do about it right what are

01:30:37.980 you going to do about it if you're really mad start talking to these kids i do i got kids that

01:30:44.060 age i i they talk about things that i don't necessarily not my kids necessarily but some

01:30:49.660 of their friends talk about things and i got one that's good they don't know where their parents

01:30:54.380 are you know they're being raised by an older sister and it's it's unfortunate their views

01:31:00.540 and how they were formed they were a ragtag collection of different talking points that

01:31:05.980 were injected upon them in school and so when you talk to them they're just going to regurgitate

01:31:11.980 these talking points and then when you realize that they have never been given any real information

01:31:18.460 you want to break down and cry because we have created purpose purposely an injured injured

01:31:24.540 individual yeah and you just want to say hold it let's start this all over again this is why

01:31:29.900 we're here this is who your people are humans your people are humans they're not they're not this

01:31:38.780 we're all mutts you know first if you start out with the idea that we're all mutts which we are

01:31:45.180 period end of story and i can demonstrate that easily then we're all part of a mutt family and

01:31:52.780 and some of us are calico and some of us are not it is not some kind of kumbaya it's just the reality

01:31:59.900 The bifurcation is designed to make us want to hate based upon this idea, this young kid

01:32:06.260 doesn't know what's going on.

01:32:07.380 Yeah, right.

01:32:08.040 It's because you screwed up.

01:32:09.680 Right.

01:32:10.320 There's a reason.

01:32:11.980 Yes, you did, because you grew up in that world and somehow you're responsible in some

01:32:17.440 way.

01:32:18.140 And if you don't take that ownership, then guess what?

01:32:20.840 You don't take the benefits of it either, right?

01:32:23.320 Because the bottom line is we're responsible for the good and the bad that came from our

01:32:28.480 time through this.

01:32:29.900 so to put a cap on it is start with mom and dad if they're there start with whoever is close

01:32:36.700 uncle aunt and say hey what's going on what's going on in that head there i'm scared grandpa

01:32:42.940 i'm scared dad why i don't know i don't think i'm ever going to be able to buy a house

01:32:48.300 i don't know how i'm going to get that money i don't know how i'm going to get the money to put

01:32:52.220 down in a house but your career well it turns out i don't know if i got a career i i i just put out

01:32:58.380 my jobs you know the graduating let's say the graduating right now do you know this graduating

01:33:03.820 class has the least likely chance of being employed ever since being recorded and is that

01:33:10.940 going to be worse next year much worse and so on and so on and so on and so well those kids

01:33:18.380 it's too hard i'm an old person i don't want to think through it great you don't you have that

01:33:22.140 right but when you start spouting out how screwed up it is realize that they could have been your kid

01:33:30.380 they could be anybody's kid have some humility to say we screwed up all right kid all right you're

01:33:37.740 right if i was in your position i'd be a little angry too uh 150 000 of debt which i can't get

01:33:47.100 bankrupt away from which i got loaded up with the exploding cigar and why wiley coyote and the road

01:33:54.620 runner going off the cliff right these kids are being sent off the cliff and saying ah i made my

01:34:00.940 money it's like yeah with what what was that degree most most degrees are unfortunately

01:34:06.940 worthless most people don't even use them right 100 all my friends that went and got a college

01:34:13.820 degree are doing something that had nothing to do with what they did yeah at all because they

01:34:18.700 couldn't find a job doing that and that was back then and that forest is coming down we're already

01:34:24.300 seeing it with trump one and trump two the whole heirs of harvard and all the major universities

01:34:31.740 they're all starting to fall down it became a huge educational grift i use ai to go across

01:34:37.980 academic papers, you don't want to know how bad some of the academic papers are as far as

01:34:43.260 stealing information, completely fabrication. And a lot of it's medical. A lot of the medical

01:34:49.660 fallacies that we believe in. Well, we just found out about Asenheimers, right? I hope most people

01:34:55.440 it's like, oh, it's the, it's the, you know, the brain with this, you know, this, no, it's not.

01:35:01.300 it's a it's a form of diabetes it's a health problem and but trillions were spent in that

01:35:09.140 grift trillions and that's the educational grift you get in there you get a you you become a uh

01:35:16.740 you know a a university professor you have tenure and you don't want to lose your job so you keep

01:35:24.420 perpetuating the old story the university system up till the 1960s was self-cleaning the old

01:35:32.580 professors that lost their edge they got pushed aside you got a job you're gonna but the the new

01:35:39.860 ideas and the young people were pushing forward that's how it works and i know when you're old

01:35:45.620 you don't want to be pushed aside but you know when you were younger did you want the old people

01:35:50.260 out of the way, damn straight. So don't be double duplicit. You know, know that there is a time for

01:35:56.640 young people to move forward. And that's what I'm trying to say. Too many old people are leading

01:36:02.500 everything right now. And that's part of the problem. And I'm not saying that I... By the way,

01:36:08.960 look at DC. The whole thing. Yeah. Look at all those old people. Get out. Yeah. Let the young

01:36:14.860 people in. They have to, you've got to align with what the country's doing now and where it's going.

01:36:20.260 not what happened when you guys first came in 90 years ago.

01:36:24.680 And if you're scared about what the young people will do,

01:36:27.400 well, do a better job in informing them.

01:36:29.960 And do it with grace and compassion.

01:36:33.460 You don't need to argue and tell them how wrong they are.

01:36:37.120 Everything is new to somebody who's younger.

01:36:40.000 They didn't see all the crap that we all have been through.

01:36:43.140 So if you present it like, oh, you should know that,

01:36:46.240 they shouldn't know it.

01:36:47.820 They're seeing the world anew.

01:36:49.220 and hopefully they take all the stuff that we did wrong and they do something better and do

01:36:54.920 something else that's wrong is there there's always going to be wrong in every generation

01:36:59.380 so my view is this and this is very this is how unfortunately technology gets in

01:37:05.320 to what the elements of politics like again this is not political it's just philosophical

01:37:10.780 um if we don't turn the youth around in the next two years in america we could be facing

01:37:18.860 Flintstones. Because the political revolution that's going to come in 2028, it's not going to

01:37:25.620 be what you think. It's going to be people who are already impacted by job loss. It's going to

01:37:31.120 be people who have already lost their ability to utilize their degree, not on their own fault.

01:37:37.240 Oh, you're a dumb kid. Well, yeah, you were a dumb kid. You were 14, 15 years old. Your guidance

01:37:42.600 counselor said, here's your career path. You had no mom and dad, or you did, and maybe they screwed

01:37:48.660 up i don't know and you trusted the system you didn't have the brain to be you know a conspiratorial

01:37:56.660 individual at 14 well let me calculate this out okay it's uh the rockefellers and this and you

01:38:02.980 know alex jones and the gay frogs you know something like that you didn't have that you

01:38:08.100 were just a kid trying to live a freaking normal life and you were saying okay how do i how do i

01:38:14.260 make something of myself in this world well the education system told me this and you got to the

01:38:19.700 end and he loaded you up with the exploding cigar and he said okay kid now you're on your way hey

01:38:26.500 don't forget to pay your loan don't forget to pay your student loan and by the way you're going to

01:38:32.100 be paying it for until you're at least to your grave yeah so that's the system that we have

01:38:37.940 that's a system that's collapsing in the interregnum and that energy is going to be

01:38:45.060 utilized in a way we've never seen before i hope i'm i'm not telling something new to people

01:38:51.780 listening here because you really got to get your head around this all the systems that you thought

01:38:58.100 existed are going to be changing before your very eyes if they aren't already and you're going to

01:39:03.940 to say okay brian mentioned that people are going to start beating up robots and you're going to

01:39:08.820 see it just materialize the first ones walking down the street you're going to be like hey that's

01:39:13.560 cool boom but didn't we know that as soon as i saw the first little delivery thing i'm like

01:39:18.840 oh you know i'm picturing like a teen takeover like we'll take this thing and we're going to

01:39:23.560 bring it home and you know you know that they're just going to get stolen beat up spray painted

01:39:28.440 kicked knocked over of course yeah but does that mean our country moves forward we have to move

01:39:33.800 forward yes yes and and if you were a foreign country that wants to dominate the world would

01:39:38.620 you not implant that through via tiktok and other mechanisms to make it cool and would you not make

01:39:46.140 sure the educational system gets you so low in your understanding of history and your understanding

01:39:53.400 of your freaking power right if if you were told the power you have that these untapped resources

01:40:01.080 you have at a young age you would feel invincible by the time you become a young woman or a young

01:40:07.800 man you'd be like hey i know what my goals are you know i i know what processes of humanity i

01:40:15.160 want to keep because they make sense and i know the ones i want to expand because they make sense

01:40:21.480 and i'm going to work on that everybody's a victim so when they see these robots they see

01:40:27.080 other people having you know you know listen spacex is going to ipo is one of the the most

01:40:34.200 largest ipos in in history and people are going to be like yeah that elon is a trillionaire and

01:40:40.360 whatever you want to believe but the bottom line is it's the only chance we have to get into space

01:40:47.640 and you might say well why do you want to get in space take them for face value to save humanity

01:40:53.760 because if we screw up this place and it all goes to Flintstones and we have a colony on Mars or in

01:41:00.100 low earth orbit or on the moon maybe humanity survives right because that that is the possibility

01:41:08.460 of where we're heading and the fact that we have an individual that is willing to do whatever he's

01:41:15.220 doing to try to make that happen is phenomenal it's taking place in your lifetime and the problem

01:41:23.220 is we don't really respect people because we see their foibles uh when it's happening right in

01:41:28.020 front of us but no government has ever done this now we tried to do with the moon in in reality

01:41:35.460 maybe in theory um but look where we are now we're by the time spacex gets to its 10-year ipo

01:41:43.780 anniversary, it's going to be having billions of tokens being sent down per second from space AI

01:41:54.040 centers. And this debate about whether or not a data center is a bad or a good thing will

01:41:58.880 pretty much long be gone. And I'm talking probably about a decade. Why? Energy is free 24 hours a day

01:42:05.560 up there. There's nobody to complain and it doesn't make anything look ugly. You just deploy

01:42:10.120 your solar cells. You let these things ride. Is there a downside? Yeah, you're going to get hit

01:42:14.840 in the head once or twice. Maybe. I don't know. Probably not. But that's what we have the

01:42:23.020 possibilities of. And when you have robots making robots, all of a sudden, the possibility of an

01:42:30.140 individual magnifies because you will have control over that if we get through this interregnum.

01:42:36.500 And that's the problem. We have a generation, the oldest generations and the youngest generations to help educate on this because they're going to be the deciding factors.

01:42:47.520 And unfortunately, a lot of white collar jobs that are going to be eliminated already are eliminated, you know, all across this country.

01:42:55.260 And there are so many people are going to want to see this self-destructive brain surgery taking place.

01:43:03.600 interesting. So I don't want to leave people. All right. So, okay. So we, we won't leave

01:43:08.580 negative. So I already, I already know I have to call Corey DeAngelis. I have so many ideas.

01:43:15.320 So I saw someone go, Eric is mesmerized. I'm like, yeah, because I'm like,

01:43:19.180 I have all these ideas. Who do I need to tell to do this, do that? Um, I just have ideas.

01:43:25.660 I have suggestions. I think all of you do too. I think we learned so much today. And yes, you guys,

01:43:30.260 you can just thank me now i'm fully aware of what time it is and i did not cut off brian because he

01:43:37.980 kept going so what an amazing treat for all of us brian thank you so so so much um and yes you guys

01:43:46.160 maybe brian will come do a locals this is why we're telling you so last night we had a great

01:43:50.300 conversation on scott's subscribers only um jeff callahan who you guys know and jeff pilkington

01:43:57.220 And you guys might not know, but they're both, uh, writer, directors, authors, like they're

01:44:02.080 in that creative space.

01:44:03.200 And it was just what you were saying.

01:44:04.940 The conversation ended up being that creativity is so necessary moving forward with the whole

01:44:13.380 AI and the robots and whatever.

01:44:15.680 It's shocking how much creativity you really need.

01:44:19.480 So, you know, don't, don't be, um, discouraged.

01:44:23.000 I think there will be opportunities to learn and to grow.

01:44:26.980 And I like the way Brian framed a lot of things today.

01:44:29.960 I feel better about a lot of it.

01:44:32.280 I really do.

01:44:33.880 So much could be improved, like the location of these data centers.

01:44:37.880 The messaging is horrible right now.

01:44:41.980 O'Leary needs to, yeah, stop being the spokesperson.

01:44:45.520 He's not a good messenger, but I like him, but not a good messenger.

01:44:49.540 So anyway, but Brian, thank you so, so much. And maybe we can grab you one night on locals

01:44:55.160 just for the subscribers. So you guys subscribe to locals. And by the way, it's, if you subscribe

01:45:00.240 for the year, it's $70, you get two months for free that way. It's $7 a month and it just keeps

01:45:07.840 all of this going and you're going to get extra content and you're all, you can also like watch

01:45:13.220 on locals or rumble and chat and we do, we do fun stuff. So that's going to be strictly for

01:45:18.640 subscribers and why not? You're still supporting, you know, Scott Adams legacy, what he built,

01:45:24.200 the estate, the, the everybody. So it's, you know, it's not like a, a grift at all. It goes

01:45:29.740 to Scott's estate and it's what he wanted. So keep that in mind. Um, and because of Scott and what he

01:45:36.800 built and that, you know, we can keep this going. We had this amazing conversation with Brian today.

01:45:41.460 I'm almost getting choked up. I'm getting choked up. Anyway, so we appreciate you, Brian. Marcella

01:45:49.620 and I were so lucky to be here chatting with you today and with everybody here. Marcella,

01:45:55.180 any closing statements? We're so late. I'm sorry, Marcella. Just that it's an exciting time to be

01:46:01.400 alive today. We are so lucky to be here and don't let negativity get down.

01:46:11.460 um there will be new ways of working and new ways of being and and we're ready for it just uh

01:46:20.180 we're we we have to be our own leaders though you know and get activated right get activated

01:46:26.180 and activate the schools and the parents and everybody because it's going to take the whole

01:46:30.500 team effort brian any closing words from you well first off i i i love being here and i love what

01:46:37.220 what you guys are doing and keeping Scott's spirit alive. It's really amazing. I really

01:46:43.820 didn't even think that this would be possible, but it is. And, you know, you guys are just

01:46:48.520 continually forming this group. I hope it continues to grow and get even more dynamic

01:46:54.900 and activated. And I think it's important to understand with all of, like Marticella was

01:47:01.260 saying, with all the negativity in the world, you have to hold on to your positivity. You have

01:47:07.060 to hold on that we're living through one of the most dynamic periods in history. And the power

01:47:13.740 that you have is unlimited. And we get in our own way. I mean, I get in my own way. I fail to see

01:47:22.620 what I can do, but I constantly try to challenge myself. So challenge yourself on what you can

01:47:28.740 really do. And it really comes down to people and not phrases and not groups or anything like that.

01:47:36.040 You talk to one or two kids and you try to give them hope and it's hard to give them hope, right?

01:47:43.020 Because I don't know how my kids are going to be able to afford money down in the house if things don't work out for me or something like that.

01:47:49.840 How would they get, you know, average home here in California is about 750, 20%.

01:47:56.200 I couldn't move here now if I was starting now.

01:47:59.260 Yeah, most people could not.

01:48:00.900 Right.

01:48:01.300 I really couldn't afford the house I'm in right now if I was starting out.

01:48:04.160 um so that's the reality for all of us and we all feel like hey we got ours but what about them

01:48:10.180 and put yourself in their position the the world is so freaking confusing so the positive way to

01:48:17.280 deal with that is understand you're dealing with human beings that have very limited access to

01:48:22.720 information and find very compassionate and and thoughtful ways and patient ways to try to lay out

01:48:32.460 the breadcrumbs. You can't force feed anybody anything. But if you give people some glimmers

01:48:39.760 of hope, that is just enough. I existed on a thread of hope many times in my life.

01:48:48.500 And I think most of us can probably say that. We don't know how we got through it. It's like,

01:48:52.600 oh, I don't ever get the other side. It's one thread and you got to the other side.

01:48:56.920 Give that opportunity to somebody young. That's all. Absolutely. We don't do that.

01:49:01.560 they will win whoever they are right because they are selling hopelessness they are selling

01:49:08.340 victimhood and we aren't thank you brian thank you so much you know how much i appreciate you

01:49:16.560 and love you i i just love you guys adore you so much um you guys let's just say again as we always

01:49:22.860 say um you know we're going to go out there and be useful we have so many lessons that we learn

01:49:27.860 every day and different reasons and and different ways to motivate inspire be creative so let's let's

01:49:35.140 please please do that for the sake of civilization wherever you live whatever country you're in

01:49:40.660 whatever your situation is um so always thank you to shelly and scott that this show goes on

01:49:47.540 and a closing sip to our beloved scott adams and the home team we'll see you tomorrow guys

01:49:54.500 so get out there get activated and be useful to scott scott thanks brian thank you love you all

01:50:02.260 thank you love you too amazing show bye guys bye

01:50:24.500 Thank you.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - June 04, 2026

The Scott Adams School - 06⧸04⧸26 Brian Roemmele Joins the Home Team

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