The Scott Adams School - 06⧸11⧸26 AKIRA THE DON joins!
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On this week's episode, we're celebrating Father's Day with a special bonus episode featuring a special guest! We're joined by a good friend of the show, Naval, and we talk about what it's like to be the smartest person in the whole wide world.
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I need a whole board of sound effects from you.
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I feel like when you're just wandering around outside,
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When you walk into a room, you have a soundboard.
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but look it's akira finally we did it we did it i told you i promised he's here yeah it's been
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very difficult i was up till 4 30 in the morning trying to get all this stuff working uh for all
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of us yeah and then i got off at seven so if i start like being weird it's because i'm sleep
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deprived and um weird is the rule here weird is the rule everyone's saying hello to you can you
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see the chat akira or no it's kind of the far away i don't yet have a monitoring screen that's big
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enough for my weak tie-dyes to properly read but if i squint in this direction you see that it's
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it's less aesthetically cool but i see someone going akira akira akira and so i'm terrified to
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move the laptop because don't move there's so many variables here and like i was like digging
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through all these hundreds of boxes that have come from texas to my new studio here in nashville to
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find the right wires and stuff so i can do this thing having just moved from mexico it's like all
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pretty nice yes but yeah i think that's that chat what's up chuck what up chunks what a persuasion
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club brain bookish girl what's cracking baby yeah beautiful days of your life oh my gosh okay so we
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have youtube rumble x and spotify and of course locals all going so you guys let's do a sip we're
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actually going to do two sips i'll show you why but let's do the first one with scott right now
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I refer to Naval all the time as the smartest person I know with the most impressive talent stack.
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And after we do the simultaneous SIP, which I'm hoping, Naval, you'll join me with, let's do the simultaneous SIP.
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i i will say given your stellar introduction i do have to point out that scott is a recluse and
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doesn't know very many people so that definitely helps if i ever meet somebody smarter you're
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gonna get demoted from smartest person i know okay you guys and i i just i can't live with
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just that so if you guys will have a second sip with me all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass
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a tank or chalice or stein a canteen jug or flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite
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liquid i like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine hit of the
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day the thing that makes everything better it's the simultaneous sip and it happens now with akira go
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you got that down are you reading that off anything or have you got that locked now
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i've got that locked down nice locked down baby i feel like it's not like fucking like excuse
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six years to get that locked down we yeah we we workshopped it for years until it got that that
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rhythm we had mason jars in there and everything oh yeah so akira listen i don't have so many
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questions but i i just oh wait here i know i have questions not so many i was gonna say so many here
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comes owen let's bring in owen all right and i think i'm gonna change us over here there you go
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Erica says bookish girl. You got a great job there. How about that?
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Oh, thanks, Gracie. I love you. Very smooth. Very smooth. So, Owen, hi.
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You guys look at this fancy camera work. It's just what you wanted, a big Akira and little Erica and Owen.
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so akira i debuted i debuted we all have problems the other day but i it was just kind of like quick
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and brief we didn't i didn't do a big focus on it so first i had a question for you hey me okay so
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i'm just gonna play a very quick section of your of this um music video you did i'm just gonna play
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like a couple of minutes or a minute and then i want to talk to you about it in one second
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which music video is that this one it's literally everything and on top of that you've got tick tock
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doing this video oh it's the soccer one yeah i can play that one okay you know and my yeah
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because my question for you is did you pick this song because of scott's emotion
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yeah well every time i i do something it's because uh it stands out to me in some way
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and it announces itself in some way and it requires uh it it just requires transforming
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into what it seems to be what in my mind and the second he started speaking in that fashion
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uh you could kind of see him change if you re-watch the original clip something kind of
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comes over him and he kind of allows himself to sort of uh become a conduit for something in a
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funny sort of a way uh which is partly something that's purely his but it's also something
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universal uh which is why that resonates so deeply and i i think i wanted to not that i want
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to get this out of the way i just it's very emotional and um i listen to your songs often
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And, you know, yesterday I asked the group, I said, after the show, in the comments, write down if, you know, you could spend an hour chatting with Scott, what would you talk about?
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But then when I rewatched this video again, I was like, oh, you know what?
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because what I wanted to point out was he said, at the end of my life, I don't think I'll be
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thinking about Dilbert. I'll be thinking about watching Disney movies with my stepkids and
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things like that. And then I was like, wow, that's what I'd want to ask him. Is that what
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you were thinking about? I mean, we were really with him till the end and he was very focused on
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all of us, but it's just interesting to be on a journey with someone who took us all the way to
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the end and knowing the things that he wondered that he would think about. And I loved everybody
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that said they would ask him about, did you meet Jesus? Are you in heaven? You know, like,
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these are like the things that we all want to know. So I just, I love this. I think this,
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this is one of the, our favorite ones. So let's, um, let's remember this and take a listen.
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yeah great if you've never heard this you're in for a treat
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okay akira we don't hear it you know that right no i didn't know that we did oh yeah no we don't
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hear it i can definitely hang on yeah i haven't got that hooked up i can play the song okay so
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i'll play the song awesome so we definitely have audio working yes sorry have youtube on that
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computer over there working but next time everything will work honestly we are just so happy
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And on top of that, you've got TikToks doing these videos for childless adults.
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saying how great their weekends are because they don't have any kids.
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Number one, they're totally right about how great their weekends are for their kids.
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There's almost nothing I ever did as a single person
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that was as fun as getting up on a Saturday morning
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and watching my stepdaughter at the time play soccer.
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there's nothing I did that was more fun than that and it wasn't easy nope it was
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driving and waking up and getting food and making sure everybody's taken care
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of and you got bring chairs down and cancel everything out
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I would think about watching Disney movies with my stepkids.
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If there's nothing I did, there was more fun than that.
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never say goodbye never uh i love that i i mean i felt like we had to revisit that song and i felt
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like i just had to get it over with i was like keep my composure erica you got this
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um it's i mean i'm looking at everybody's reactions it's just you know it's the important
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i was on here uh i met shelly like on here and i told her about how you know because that's the
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song that i would always think about her when i was making that song and this was before i you
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know i think i even had a visual image of who she was but you know i'd read it just got talking
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about her and i would think about her and when i when i was working on this song and that period
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of time when he was devoting himself to that aspect of being yeah and uh and of course now
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what feels like a very short time later shelly's no longer with us i and but the song remains
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yes the song remains and you're right and i went the first time i heard that too i thought wow what
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does you know shelly think like the the amount of love scott had for his family the stepchildren he
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was one of these guys you know he would talk a lot you knew him via his work and he would talk
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about his work and his work processes and he would talk about the world and he would tell you things
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about the world and one's relationships of the world and navigating the world the user interface
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for exploring the world and sometimes it was easy to forget uh that he was also just a man
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like all of us and i think of that that a lot with regards to his last weeks and how that's
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really what that brought home i think i can't remember i was talking to i was talking to someone
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they were saying that they were that kind of saddened them seeing him uh in that state and
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it saddened them because they'd really held him on this high pedestal and then seeing him like that
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In the same way, Norm Macdonald had his final message,
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Scott's final message was, no, like really, I am like you,
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And I mean, literally, literally the day he passed, he was going to try to be on the show.
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I feel like he said, I mean, just sounds so strange, but I feel like he set like a good
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example, like we don't have to be super fearful.
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It is, you know, death is, you know, where none of us are getting away from it.
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And I know a lot of people were uncomfortable and a lot of people were like,
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I couldn't watch him like the last month and you know, it really bothered them.
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And I just, you know, for me, I just felt like, you know,
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what a gift because we were with him through so many of us for 10 years,
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through so many ups and downs and trials and tribulations and prisoner Island
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and deaths and, you know, marriages, divorces, you know, everything.
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and it's like it just sort of felt fitting that he took us along even right to his memorial service
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that he live streamed so um yeah it's a lot of people would say things like he would give advice
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or something and people would be like oh well that's easy for you to say you're a famous cartoonist
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that's easy for you to say you're scott adams or what have you and what that really drove home at
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the end was no he was a man he was a human being like you're a human being uh we all
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have whatever obstacles we have we all have problems as the song says um we are all born
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and we all die doesn't matter how rich we are doesn't matter if we know the president doesn't
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matter what like that's what happens that's what humans do his was a human story and he showed
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right at the end that he really was human and a lot of people because a lot of people like
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literally can't quite equate the fact that they're seeing a person on a screen or something
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with them being like them so some people do find it hard to integrate certain lessons and ideas
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that they might get from these people because they feel themselves separate to those people
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they feel that somehow some other kind of being some kind of immortal thing and scott in his final
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days really drove home the point that no i am like you and you therefore can be like me and do
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whatever you want with your life you can change and i see that as being consistent throughout his
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life I mean his first you know major book that really took off was the how to fail at almost
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everything and still win big so it wasn't about you know look at all the great success I had let
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me teach you how to do it which is a lot there's plenty of books out there that sound like that
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when you read the title and get into it but you know he was kind of taking the opposite approach
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let me tell you about all the ways I failed and how I still managed to succeed somehow and you
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know there was a the only similar example I know of is like James Altucher who would be very open
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about his failures yeah yeah and funnily enough i was listening to a lot of james alza chat
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at when that scott book came out i always talk about how scott was hugely influential on meaning
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wave and it was at the same time so scott was very influential on me coming up during the music
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coming up with the idea of putting kind of affirmations and self-programming into music
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and i did a couple of songs like that and then i heard james alza i should say on a podcast
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uh quadruple down on what's working and one of those tracks i'd done that week i'd put out three
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tracks that kind of experiments and one of them was this first meaning wave track with jordan
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peterson uh so i said okay we'll call you go down and do more of this thing but i feel like james
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i did i james and scott did a podcast didn't they yeah yeah they did yeah i know i know scott has
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been a guest on james's podcast and probably the other way around i don't remember but i know he's
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been on james alster's podcast multiple times so that i think it's more than once and you know
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like Kurt Vonnegue's concept of Karras from Cass Cradle.
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There are these people who are kind of like in your family.
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You might never meet them or maybe you will meet them.
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They might live a craft way across the world, but you're somehow connected.
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They're both very accomplished and successful, but also with a lot of failure and ups and
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And a willingness to be very open about it and ashamed.
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in that way people will sometimes hide the most useful thing they could share with someone because
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they're ashamed yeah that thing well scott scott was good he had no uh fear of embarrassment or
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shame like everything just is what it is it is what it is you know if you uh if you fail i mean
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isn't that the way to learn okay that didn't work now what right so i i love that i love that he
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would tell us about all the startups he tried and all the things he would try to invent and
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you know we what was the one called when hub and you know all the different things you read in his
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book how to fail that he was working on i'm like oh my god this guy was so driven like he took no
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time off and it was like he was always working working working thinking thinking and you're
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gonna have to fail to succeed so get scott and his giant bong nikki there you go that's right
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And I think most people have a mix of success and failure, but a lot of people only talk
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about the successes, and that may come back to that shame and embarrassment.
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But if you really understood a person, Scott had his basket case theory where everyone's
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a basket case if you really got to know them, and I think that's true.
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And I certainly could tell the story of my life as a huge failure or as a huge success,
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um so akira uh i would love if we could do um we all have problems that's the one i i did a quick
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debut of um and a lot of people weren't here and they didn't get to hear it but it's kind of like
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what we're saying we all have problems right everybody's no one's infallible everybody's
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got their ups and downs you ain't a unique snowflake exactly i'm a unique snowflake
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and i have problems i'll melt in heat you are a unique snowflake but you're also not unique so
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there's always the the dichotomy of everything life is these two things are true you are a unique
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thing of which there is only you that cannot be replicated or photocopied yet you share a huge
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amount of your being with everyone else right correct i've got you let's go all right here's
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one that's more about uh just not this one's very relevant to me
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the usual old frame is that if you're having some bad luck you think that you're unusually
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unlucky because it happened to you you think of all the things that could happen to anybody
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and then you think oh man why do all these things happen to me why me why do i have all
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these problems. That's the old way of thinking. Here's the reframe. Reframe is everyone has
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has problems just the fact that you don't know somebody else's problem
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that's pretty gutsy of you to think that your problem is bigger than theirs
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you don't know their problems you don't know anything about people's problems
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the really big ones they keep to themselves you know sometimes you see it if it's a physical
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thing like in my case but generally speaking people's battle is inside their head
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i love it music plus you guys did you love that doesn't it i mean it's just akira it's such a
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good thing that you do this meaning wave music because oh my gosh i have itchy nose um
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does that mean Scott's here? Okay. So he was laughing at me last night trying to set the
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studio up. Oh yeah. He was laughing at me on Monday. I'll tell you about it one day.
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Um, so I love that you do this because it's like, like almost like this ambient music with a message
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and rhythm and it keeps you going and it keeps you positive and it keeps you thinking.
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I just think it's like so good just to have like blasting through the house or in your ears or
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whatever um did you hear have you ever heard from jordan about your songs oh yeah yeah yeah
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jordan was like almost as soon as i did did you hear that yeah was that like a toaster
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that was a cha-ching so if like someone buys something from my shop my phone goes cha-ching
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which always makes me think of scott which is we'll play that song in a bit maybe yes that's
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that's every time that i hear that noise i think it's gone that's amazing uh yeah yeah let's make
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a cha-ching today a sip i would say yes it's a cha-ching a sip to cha-ching you guys anytime
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someone buys something from mccure you're gonna hear a cha-ching meaningwave.com um yeah the first
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meaning wave song i did like technically was uh 2017 it was sampled jordan peterson talking about
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the utility of hierarchies and being a good plumber and like he heard it like almost immediately i
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think michaela sent it to him uh and he retweeted it and he said i don't know what he's up to but
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this is interesting and then i did like the full jbp wave mixtape and then he went oh what's going
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on here this and he wrote something about i don't know what this this is up to but it seems like
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this is good and then we started communication and then we started emailing each other and then
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he had me on his podcast and then he came on my podcast and we had we stayed in touch over the
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years oh awesome we hope he's doing well you know we hope he's doing well oh i love that is there
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anyone that you haven't done yet that you're thinking about doing yeah of course are we allowed
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to know i don't know about things but they're done it's this funny again right so there's this whole
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thing you got the whole like fake it till you make it be it till you see it type thing right
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that's true it's also true sometimes if you talk about things before you happen you can bugger them
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up okay and you can also ruin the experience for people i like to surprise people with things i
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like to put drop a thing and people go oh my goodness i had no idea this was gonna happen
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amazing that type of thing yeah i wish i could say a whole lot of prophetic things right now
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so you could make one for me, but you know, it's not going to happen. So you never know, Erica,
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you never know. I mean, I've had some wing bangers, that's for sure. Let me, let me ask
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a more general question. Like, how do you do your research to find these things? Um, well, I, I, uh,
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I listen to a lot of things. I read a lot of things, uh, where, you know, I do, I do a lot
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of walking. I try to get 10 K minimum, and that's a great time to listen to things, whether it's
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audiobooks or podcasts or lectures or what have you and also reading so i'm constantly on that
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and then sometimes when i'm uh i also people send me things all the time like i've said before a
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couple of the scott things were a result of like loads of people all at once messaging me going oh
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my god tune in right now so i think and uh and then when if i have i'm also constantly working
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towards a sort of greater narrative so i will sort of investigate people that might have spoken about
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a certain thing that i want to get multiple angles on uh in this sort of grand narrative and then
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sometimes i'll be working on you know an individual voice and i'll be spending a lot of time just
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purely going through that person sort of looking for the stuff that as we were talking about kind
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of calls out to me and as jordan peterson once said when he was talking about reading the bible
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We're always looking for something that glitters.
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and you have a platform where you can say like,
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like uh hooked on phonics right wasn't that the thing where they like put lessons to music and
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then people really absorb them more oh he said he was like i don't listen to music it's dangerous
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cha-ching take a sip cha-ching every time i'm taking a sip every time a cha-ching rings
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take a sip okay um sorry so i don't mean to interrupt you now i interrupt my phone interrupting
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you i really don't know how to turn it off it's a new phone as well everyone's new i got a new
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home new studio new everything new country new squirrels out in the yard uh yes i too am obsessed
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with my disney yard so i relate i've got the bunnies the squirrels the birds i've got crazy
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right i stepped up this morning and i counted 20 of them oh are you feeding them no i ain't feeding
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them i feel like they feed themselves they come out free they come running around i ain't gonna
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feed them nothing um you know they're self they're self-sufficient they require no charity that's
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right that's not welfare squirrels they get after me i feed them all i give them like a buffet
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i love them they have names and you're creating problems you've created dependency no no no it's
00:31:04.880
good it they're they're um they're generational squirrels from my girl shirley who passed away
00:31:09.760
last year rip um we did have a question can you someone wants to know if you could do uh one of
00:31:17.240
these songs like in a form of like heavy metal i have done check out um well would you check out
00:31:24.340
the warpath album the third album i did with jocko willink that's got a lot of metal aspects in it
00:31:29.740
certainly that's got a lot of metal influence um i did quite a few things over the past couple of
00:31:34.700
years they've got aspects of metal in them but um as far as like pure pure straight metal double
00:31:40.380
kick drum stuff like that that sort of thing will be occurring the glory of the joy for me of what
00:31:47.040
i do is i'm not bound by like genre outside of my own and whatever the sort of voice and the song
00:31:53.440
and the message requires i get to do so i could never get bored some people would just get really
00:31:57.680
bored because it's like i have to keep making the same like synthwave song or over and over or
00:32:01.740
whatever it is right whereas like that is not an issue to me in this world that i've created
00:32:06.100
that's amazing and how is mexico uh mexico is like a crazy dream i was there for five years
00:32:13.780
and i've been here for two and a half weeks and it already feels like a strange a strange dream
00:32:18.440
why did you leave well mexico yes because like i miss you guys and uh you know one of the main
00:32:27.080
things is like my son uh pretty much grew up in the usa we moved to the usa um like when he was
00:32:33.600
like one and a half or something like that and we lived in la at that time and he was on hollywood
00:32:38.920
boulevard and he grew up on hollywood boulevard running up and down like high-fiving spongebob
00:32:42.520
and that sort of thing and um you know when we got locked out of us in 2021 he was very very good
00:32:50.000
about it um he was very good about it and he was very resilient and because of the internet and
00:32:54.980
have you he's able to keep playing with a lot of his friends and stuff like that oh i just had like
00:32:59.060
a kind of like sort of a year and a half ago or something like that i couldn't sleep and i went
00:33:04.020
and sat on the sofa and my eyes were full of tears but i realized i i realized that my son needed to
00:33:09.060
be around his own people um you know as he entered his teenage years he needed to be around people
00:33:14.100
that's ever shared cultural um sort of heritage and references and language simple things like
00:33:19.380
language but you imagine being trying to be 13 and trying to shut up a guy and she like speak full
00:33:23.700
blown spanish and you also you've got janky spanish it's like you don't need like these extra
00:33:27.960
obstacles right that was the main thing um you know and then as far as like you know before we
00:33:34.600
got locked out of the usa in 2021 2021 we've been planning to talk initially uh we've never we've
00:33:40.780
never done a meeting wave tour and we're planning to do that then never got to do that i'd be i was
00:33:45.240
being invited on these tv shows and things of that nature that i never got to do so there's a lot of
00:33:48.980
stuff i didn't i couldn't do being in mexico and also it's very difficult to get hold of comics
00:33:53.240
right and other such luxuries um you know like i was very happy to be able to get a comic book
00:34:00.360
i mean yes it's beautiful the sun the pool but you're right i lived in paradise i met some
00:34:08.520
wonderful people it's a very tranquilo way of life no one's stressed about politics or anything like
00:34:13.260
that no one really cares people aren't talking about culture war stuff uh there's the family
00:34:17.440
unit has not yet been destroyed things of that nature like there's there's so many wonderful
00:34:22.060
things about it but i needed to be here uh i'm not yet ready to sort of duck out of the fight
00:34:27.140
so to speak good for you my boy needs to be in the game how's your son doing being in in the
00:34:33.840
united states now again he almost like immediately like within a week or something found like a gang
00:34:38.340
of friends he had this idea we were watching stranger things and he wanted like it to be
00:34:42.320
pictured his life like that like riding around on bikes around the neighborhood with kids and
00:34:46.000
that sort of thing and he's literally got that he immediately like literally found some kids
00:34:50.720
that they've become great friends and uh so that whole aspect has already sort of begun for him
00:34:56.960
perfect he's very we go to movies a lot we got the unlimited regal thing like that was just stuff
00:35:03.080
like that it's difficult to go to the movies in in mexico because like everything's translated
00:35:06.500
into mexican and dubbed even though in mexico movies is so cheap it's crazy like three you
00:35:17.460
The cost of cinema in the United States right now is mental, right?
00:35:22.580
You try to get like a popcorn and a couple of drinks, that's an extra 45 bucks.
00:35:27.600
Yeah, we're at peak mental right now in the United States.
00:35:35.400
Hey, you've got to bring a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in under your shirt.
00:35:41.280
it is amazing though that you know movie when i was a kid used to be kind of a cheap way to go
00:35:47.320
out you know like would just be i don't know if it was five bucks or even less per ticket and you
00:35:51.820
know i don't know what the snacks were but i'm sure it was a whole lot less than it is now
00:35:54.740
and now it's like almost like a premium experience you know they they've had the fancy seats and
00:36:00.480
yeah but it's like you know most people hardly ever go and i probably hardly ever go really
00:36:07.100
it's maybe once or twice a year i go so much now because i've got that unlimited thing and they're
00:36:11.500
doing this thing i always wanted him to do i was like just stop playing these crap new movies and
00:36:15.280
play the good old ones and they're suddenly doing that now my boy was out here first with with my
00:36:21.040
wife and he was like oh they're showing ferris bueller tomorrow dad i was like what i never
00:36:25.060
got to see ferris bueller in the cinema he saw ferris bueller we saw shrek in the cinema meaning
00:36:29.920
we saw ariety um like uh flipping train spotting's on next week oh that's fun i might go then yeah
00:36:38.220
there's like they're showing all the old stuff we went to see because he's into the amazing digital
00:36:42.260
circus like all other people of his age which is a youtube animation and they were showing it in
00:36:46.880
the movie theater and he dressed up as one of the characters and there were all these other kids all
00:36:50.440
dressed up as the characters and it was rammed and it was like an event it felt joyful and then
00:36:55.020
the trailers were all either old movies or new things made by youtubers and i had i had so much
00:37:01.280
hope in my heart so i feel that's that's basically the right balance it's just like let's pretend the
00:37:06.040
past 15 years of creepy propaganda didn't exist let's honor the great stuff of the olden days
00:37:10.700
and let's uh let's have some new people come in and make some things and make new movies please
00:37:15.800
please you don't have to remake everything that's what they're doing these these little youtube guys
00:37:20.500
they're making new things it's kind of like you know like tarantino and his homies they would
00:37:24.640
film movies my son had some friends around the other day they were making a movie outside
00:37:28.940
like oh yeah i was gonna say the same thing um so it sounds like that circus movie is like
00:37:36.280
a rocky horror picture show for maybe younger kids yeah kind of that's a good i would say that's a
00:37:42.320
good um i was thinking the same thing um all right so maybe i'll go to the movies if they're
00:37:48.620
going to play the old stuff and i can still sneak a sandwich in in my bag um bring your own chips
00:37:55.020
um all right so do we do cha-ching or do you want to do something else in between
00:38:00.800
no you can do we can do cha-ching uh i've been yeah i have a visual that i've been working on
00:38:06.660
for cha-ching i haven't brought the problems one for example is it is an in progress music video
00:38:14.360
which will be finished over the next few days, I think.
00:38:16.520
And cha-ching, we have an in-progress thing happening.
00:38:52.840
Every criticism you receive, just play this sound effect when you get it.
00:39:21.060
Every time somebody criticizes you, you just made money.
00:39:30.840
If somebody criticizes my live stream, and I'll tell you the biggest criticism I'm hearing is that my shelves are boring.
00:39:40.000
Now, do I feel good that you're telling me that there's something about my thing that I do every day?
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How easily could I receive a criticism like that?
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I know exactly what to change to do a better job, because you told me, that's like money.
00:41:12.080
If somebody hands you a thing that will definitely make you money, what is your feeling about it?
00:41:19.240
Do you feel, oh, I hate it when people give me a thing that makes me make money?
00:41:32.540
Years ago, when people would criticize my comic, I would hate it, of course.
00:41:38.580
But then I would say, oh, a lot of people are saying the same thing.
00:41:42.080
So I'll change it, and then I would make that change.
00:41:47.520
I literally got rich by being criticized and understanding the criticism as...
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Cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching.
00:42:15.120
every time i hear one i say wait a minute you just told me how to get richer
00:42:23.360
the same applies if you're not trying to get rich suppose you just wanted a better
00:42:27.460
social the best advice somebody gave was the cruelest thing anybody ever said one day my
00:42:33.020
female friend told me how negative and what a bummer it was listen to because i was complaining
00:42:37.780
now i was not aware that i was a big complaint i had no idea i thought i was a person who talked
00:42:44.620
about my day the funny parts of this so in my mind i had no idea that i was having an effect
00:42:49.620
once i learned that you know how powerful that was i was able because it was something i could
00:42:56.400
change i would become aware of the ratio of negative things i said positive it was probably
00:43:01.960
the most important change i've ever made to my social toolbox i would say that that one change
00:43:41.800
Actually it works, I swear now. I heard him say this years ago and I've been cha-chinging ever since.
00:43:53.800
So the next time you get criticized, whether personally or whether professionally,
00:43:59.800
say to yourself, say to yourself, say to yourself.
00:44:05.800
Just try it. Like actually say that, that little sound.
00:44:10.800
not figuratively i'm not talking fingers i mean actually saying that actually you say
00:44:19.180
everybody shout out a cha-ching at home just say it like scott said cha-ching
00:44:36.300
for years and i first heard that i was like oh that's the song right there and then i like saved
00:44:42.060
it in a folder and then i like i lost a hard drive or something like that and i was like i want to
00:44:45.580
make that cha-ching so what happens to that and then no one could ever find it uh jay plemons
00:44:49.900
who's like yes of finding scott samples he couldn't find it like last year i was like can
00:44:55.020
you remember what thing this was from and he's like i remember that and there was one uh show
00:44:59.180
where scott kind of mentioned it but it wasn't the one that i'd heard and it wasn't the one that was
00:45:03.740
really and then i mentioned it um it might have been when was i mentioned on a live stream like
00:45:09.580
three weeks ago or something and someone in my chat was like oh yeah i know that when he sent
00:45:12.860
it me like immediately oh wow then i left the stream i made the song boom boom boom and that
00:45:18.700
was it and uh and it's a thing of glory and wonder and also when he's talking about that cha-ching
00:45:23.500
thing he also tells a really cool story about john his tennis playing buddy who taught him a load of
00:45:28.780
game you put him onto a lot of game right and uh that's also going to be another song
00:45:34.140
oh shout out john john might be listening right now and i'm going to message him after in case
00:45:39.100
he missed a shout out to him i love onto so much game yes john this was like like 10 minutes of
00:45:48.060
scott just like glazing john's game oh my god i love it um so akira mad powerful like so someone
00:45:57.660
like me uh i get like a lot of comments i read them all because like uh it's valuable like like
00:46:03.580
scott talks about in that you know but like and you'll get like a hundred comments going oh my
00:46:08.140
god you changed my life and then you get one comment saying something like really mean and
00:46:11.580
like if you're an amateur the mean thing will stick with you and it will become a bad thing and
00:46:15.900
what have you cha-ching completely flips that out it's totally flips that out and even if you like
00:46:21.580
you can it's a bit like the jocko thing jocko has good right something bad happens there's a good
00:46:25.740
sites right there's always some kind of good get after it but the uh the cha-ching thing is kind of
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in some ways it can be even better than good because like what's the good in some asshole
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00:46:36.920
comment oh okay maybe there's something useful in there somewhere but cha-ching that's that's
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not just good that's money i mean i love it thing is is cha-ching so i gotta get myself a cash
00:46:47.240
register one of them things and add it to my like dj setup i don't think i should even get it on the
00:46:51.780
soundboard. I think I should get an actual one of them cash register thing. Yeah. Thump that guy.
00:46:56.540
The big old one from like the mercantile. Exactly. Like you hit it with your fist to
00:47:01.940
cha-ching. So if we start cha-chinging in the live stream, if I just shout out cha-ching,
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that's because I saw some mean troll comment and I'm cha-chinging you.
00:47:12.340
There you go. And then cha-chinging you at the chat.
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Yes. See ya. Oh my God. Oh, and I'll be cha-chinging you.
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um i had a question though about um ai so you know there's like what's that one called like
00:47:28.900
suno or something so people are making ai songs is this going to affect you i don't think so
00:47:34.300
no so i've been saying this since since the whole thing started right and i shout out naval on this
00:47:39.580
i did a record with naval and he's very good at crystallizing wisdoms and concepts and what have
00:47:44.620
you or just making something a little bit more more sticky and uh you know there's no one can
00:47:50.360
compete with you on being you is one thing right so what what people can copy you people been
00:47:55.880
copying me my whole life i was often early on things and then someone else would do it a little
00:48:00.640
bit later and then they would do well on it and because i was too early type thing and that used
00:48:05.220
to annoy me but it doesn't at all anymore um no one can compete with you on being you right so if
00:48:10.920
you're being a pure uncompromised version of yourself that cannot be guessed that can only
00:48:17.120
replicated after the fact so if you're a being a pure uncompromised version of yourself and then
00:48:24.000
you're continuing to make new things you will always be ahead of a human or even a robot that
00:48:28.800
whatever robot no matter how sophisticated it is it cannot have the byzantine conduit of your
00:48:34.880
the some experience of your life your tastes your loves your joys your experience and all that right
00:48:40.640
and if you're being a pure expression of that then that cannot be replicated now ai is very
00:48:47.120
good at replicating or generating mid right so if you want mid and if you're in the business of mid
00:48:53.280
i should say if you're in the business of mid you're in trouble because ai is like a mid machine
00:48:58.080
you know i mean if you're making mid music ai can perfect mid music right if you're making mid
00:49:03.840
movie scripts boom mid movie scripts if you're a mid like talking head yapping on tick tock or
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whatever hey i could do that too no one gives a fuck so mid you're screwed and i don't consider
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that a bad thing uh that could be a good thing all those people making mid would probably be
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better off doing something else anyway you know i mean or maybe it will encourage them to not be
00:49:25.400
mid and to be pure expressions of themselves and not just copy everything else because that's the
00:49:29.960
easiest in the short term so that's my feeling on that that's a that's a great message there's a lot
00:49:35.140
of creatives out there that are definitely worried about you know ai replicating um you know what
00:49:42.120
they do but you're right they it can't and if you're ahead of you know if you're the one that's
00:49:47.660
the originator you're ahead of the ai because you're doing it first your own way so you do need
00:49:54.700
to continue to make stuff but this is also this is you know encouragement to do that to get in the
00:50:00.020
zone to stay in the zone and to keep because you know people get depressed when they stop doing
00:50:05.120
that people get what they like get in the zone they make something great they're all happy then
00:50:09.580
they like get lazy or something and then they get all depressed then they can't get back in the zone
00:50:13.600
stuff of that nature so i would take all of this as encouragement um and motivation to just be the
00:50:19.120
best version of you and make great stuff and do and be an uncompromised version of you don't be
00:50:26.100
worrying about what other people think don't be trying to oh maybe this is what's cool right now
00:50:30.180
or whatever just like do you and you can't they can't do that they can't do you that's great
00:50:35.940
advice that's great advice for everything and i remember the first time scott said that he just
00:50:41.700
doesn't get embarrassed and i literally i mean it was a hundred years ago right and i literally said
00:50:48.600
to myself, Oh, you know what? I'm not going to get embarrassed either. Like I just was like,
00:50:52.300
Oh, you know what? I'm not going to, I'm not going to get embarrassed. And I don't, and I,
00:50:56.320
you know, I don't care because it's just, it's your life, you guys. So be as authentic to
00:51:02.480
yourselves and what makes you happy to who you are as you can be because you're going around once,
00:51:07.580
right? We're going around the world one time and in this body with what you have and what you know,
00:51:13.420
and just fulfill whatever it is that's authentic to you and not to and you know i i was just saying
00:51:19.960
this to someone yesterday i have a beef right now with influencers like all these people that are
00:51:24.800
like all of them oh taking up all influences i cannot i can't like these people that like go to
00:51:32.560
hawaii and they're all lined up to take like a shot like they're the only one there and they're
00:51:36.520
twerking on the beach and i'm like you're all the same the same voice the same vocal fry
00:51:43.240
the same no lift in their voice they're all just like a lot of those are already ai like it's
00:51:49.000
already happened a lot of those are already yeah and yeah and we feel it though like we feel it as
00:51:55.220
consumers you know that if there's no connection it's just flat so i i think i i think i like the
00:52:02.980
idea of people just taking away their embarrassment and fear and just going for it and be authentic
00:52:08.480
and keep creating and maybe incorporate some of the things into it like maybe you incorporate a
00:52:14.380
little piece of ai into what you're doing but the rest of it's you and that's okay too but just keep
00:52:19.180
moving forward um don't cave and don't stop being creative and letting a machine do it for you if
00:52:25.960
you are an actually a creative person is my thought or you'll lose it but that's well that
00:52:32.880
aspect is is i think taken into consideration is the the a muscle not exercised will atrophy
00:52:39.980
whether that's a creative muscle whether that's a physical muscle whatever it is
00:52:44.120
so sometimes there are technologies that will come along that will make it easier to do certain
00:52:49.000
things but that that does come at the cost of losing that skill how many people can do uh you
00:52:54.380
know rubber hose animation post uh you know pixar type stuff that whole td 2d disney style
00:53:01.660
that was perfected uh how many people could even do that now etc etc so you know everything that
00:53:09.260
comes along has that shadow side to it um and it's always been that way ever since man picked
00:53:14.400
up a rock he could have to create or he could go cave someone's skulling and uh and that's the
00:53:19.720
choice of the individual is how you go about utilizing these things that come along oh and
00:53:24.860
did you have a question because i just won't shut up well no i mean i agree with what what you're
00:53:29.160
saying in terms of creativity being something that i think is a little bit outside of what ai is
00:53:34.980
really capable of it does have certainly the capability to create music and create art and
00:53:40.040
create all these things that at least look like it but i think it is simulated art it's not real
00:53:45.920
art because it is basically just a conglomeration of all the training and to your point it's probably
00:53:52.100
just sort of mid stuff because it's not going to be exceptional because that would be out on the
00:53:56.060
edge of what it was trained to do and it normally wouldn't go there um direction so i think i've
00:54:01.160
seen like great people uh make actual art uh using these tools it's possible it requires but it
00:54:08.360
requires an artist to actually direct it you know someone like emily ucas who does the will stancil
00:54:13.940
show she's been an animator for like 20 years and then she found suno and she utilizes that and
00:54:19.480
that's opened up this massive realm of creativity for her she's super excited and sure you listen
00:54:24.460
to her talk about it she's like i don't see the difference between me using this or like
00:54:27.580
seth mcfarlane using like a crew of korean animators like working uh you know for no money
00:54:35.860
24 hours a day like at least the robots feel no pain when i'm telling them to do my evil vision
00:54:42.620
yeah like i think scott talked about how you know it's sort of taste and discernment was a big part
00:54:48.140
of his comic writing you know and that he might do a whole bunch of comics or come up with a whole
00:54:54.320
bunch of ideas but it was always the way he felt that would you know make him guide guide him in
00:55:00.660
terms of what's really funny or what he should keep and what he should throw away and i think
00:55:04.580
that's probably true for a lot of artists that it's about knowing what is going to resonate with
00:55:10.500
people or knowing what really resonates with you or um you know stanley always used to talk about
00:55:16.680
that he's like he he doesn't write he didn't write for other people he wrote for himself
00:55:19.880
and he figured what was his quote i did put it in a song like he figured if it would work for him
00:55:25.480
then it would work work for other people because he's not that different with other people so it's
00:55:30.100
like i would say this to my son you know if there's something that you wish existed you should
00:55:34.320
make it because other people will wish it existed too that's like that's that's a ka-ching that's
00:55:38.740
free money on the table like if you wish that something existed whether it's a show or a idea
00:55:43.520
or an app or whatever it is you go make that thing someone else will want it too
00:55:46.800
yeah i just think it's it's really hard to put that into a computer you know to like model that
00:55:53.680
yeah exactly on its own right for a computer to sit there and like try and be the and be the
00:56:00.180
undirected dream machine of true dreams yeah yeah and i and i i'm not an artist or at least i
00:56:08.220
wouldn't describe myself that way and i i don't use it for that but i do use ai at work all the
00:56:12.640
time. And I think it is somewhat of an analogy there where, you know, I use it to create documents
00:56:18.700
to create, you know, a lot of things for work. And, but what I have recognized is that it does
00:56:26.920
need a lot of guidance. It needs me to push it in the right direction. It needs me to review
00:56:30.500
everything and say, no, that's wrong. Do it this way instead. And a lot of that is again, back to
00:56:36.440
intuition. It's like, is this going to really read well when my client sees it? Or is this really
00:56:41.120
gonna accomplish whatever it is i'm trying to accomplish with this thing that i'm creating
00:56:45.420
and um you know a lot of that again you sometimes i can't really you know know up front until i see
00:56:53.660
something so i might draft something with ai just saying you know create this thing here's what i
00:56:58.420
know about it come up with something but then when i read it i'm like oh no no no you're missing all
00:57:02.360
kinds of things and you know then it just sort of might be like a little bit of getting past writer's
00:57:07.020
block, where it's like, yeah, I can now exert my judgment on something as opposed to a blank
00:57:11.960
page. And so I think maybe the same is true for a lot of artists that, you know, they could use
00:57:18.400
it to come up with ideas, but the final idea is probably not what the AI came up with the first
00:57:23.680
time. Or maybe it is, but you still made a decision. Like maybe that went so like, I was
00:57:29.960
laughing at even the word artist now, Scott kind of made amusing to me. We would use to talk about
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artists as a prerogative but uh an artist i is someone who makes decisions like consciously like
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deliberate decisions right so you're acting with a deliberateness of purpose so if you're painting
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you go like the brush goes there and that goes there or if you're one of those like less deliberate
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painters it's still a decision to be the less deliberate painter so like however you approach
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your life if you're being uh deliberate acting with a deliberateness of purpose about the choices
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you apply to your life whatever you're doing that there is an art in that and that that is an artist
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and you your life can be your masterpiece so i would say uh one a it's that it's acting it's
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making decisions actually deliberately and that again goes back to what we're saying so a lot of
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people are just not making decisions they're not thinking about why they're doing things what
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they're listening to what they're eating what they're even saying regurgitate the thing they
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saw on x whatever it is right that's not acting with the deliberateness of purpose that's how you
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end up in the realm of mpc how you end up in the realm of mid how you end up in that slop world
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of which people are currently talking about a lot that's you can be slop but a lot of people i see
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moaning about ai slop are ai slop they're only saying that shit because they saw it somewhere
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else and they're just like that's what i'm supposed to think anyway so like yeah that's
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another aspect of analysis is um that it's what is outside the realm of pure survival
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so and there's a lot of that now because we live in this crazy future where we have so much
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more time than we used to have outside the realm of survival and a lot of that time is sort of
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wasted we have all these things created to occupy us and occupy that space and you know sit around
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watching nonsense or uh whatever it is uh but that is space within which every human can be an
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artist particularly people who don't think they're an artist because that's time for you to act with
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the deliberateness of purpose and do something with your life that your grandparents never had
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the opportunity to. So Akira, we were asking a question at the end of the show. I just wanted
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to put it out there for YouTube, especially the, the question today that we want you to take to
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the comments to answer, and we will read them is if you could become world-class at what skill at
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at one skill, what would it be? So if there was one skill you guys could hone in on, become
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world-class at it, what would it be? In the comments, everywhere, in LocalsX, on YouTube
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and Rumble, and we are going to check out your answers. And I think, Akira, you're world-class
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with your skill with Meaning Wave, and it's so meaningful to so many people and teaching us. So
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i love that do you want to um you know we're at time but do you want to play us uh another tune
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that we can jam out to before we go yeah let's let's get one more going you guys and so we'll
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go a couple minutes late and on that i was watching me and my boy i've been watching movies while uh
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my wife is away we watched groundhog day and uh the lesson one of the lessons of groundhog day
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is like you actually do have more time than you think and it's kind of like the alan watts thing
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like what would you do if you were god if you had the power to do whatever you wanted to
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you'd initially do all these things satisfy these urges uh all that sort of stuff then eventually
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you would kind of start making life more difficult and then you would find meaning
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you have we have the amount of time that it takes for for his character in groundhog day to like
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you know learn the piano and things of that nature he does like an hour once he do an hour a day with
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this lady but then he just does it over like a year or something and he learns to play the piano
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because this girl he likes would like her ideal man is a musician so he does that we often think
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that we don't have time to do these things we want to do or be the person we want to be or what
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have you what have you but it's a little bit of time every day where over a period of time suddenly
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you could be a master so i think this is a good question and it's good for people to think like
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what would i really love to be really good at because you can do it you could do it that's
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right like that you look at scott took up drumming in his 60s you know and he he played literally
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like you know five minutes a day maybe but i mean he got good enough where he was like banging out
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a little rhythm and he we definitely watched him improve right and he did that at 60 he bought the
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guitar um you know it's never too late so definitely think about it you guys and then let's work toward
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it exactly how many of you live in regret of past decisions i've never had that feeling
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regret is the dumbest thing you could ever feel if there was something that you're not happy about
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in your past just imagine you just spawned into this environment today like a video game
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hey just imagine you just woke up and this is the the stuff you have to play with usually
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you're fine you might have a terrible problem you have to deal with but usually you wake up
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being like you know i'm healthy i have ways i can get ahead i know what to do if i want to get ahead
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i'll start here this would be a good starting place start here so think of today as your
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starting place and then just see how it is and if you don't like your starting
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place the next question is how hard would it get from where you are to this
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better place well you apply for a better job you learn some more skills you talk
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to your cousin who's got a job opening you do some stuff but probably you're
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fine so when you ask me do I regret a past decision the answer is never I've
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never i don't have any regret about anything and if you're thinking in those terms you're really
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you do some stuff but probably you're fine so when you ask me do i regret a past decision
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the answer is never i've never i don't have any regret about anything
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and if you're thinking in those terms you're really hurting yourself
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So now, I don't regret anything that I bought in the house, it's just what happens, it's just what happens, it's just what happens, it's just what happens, it's just what happens.
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just what happened from the almost anything could happen today album the best of scott
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adams meaning wave 33 tracks i do believe is out now came out on scott's birthday this week
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happy birthday scott thank you for everything we love you forever
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akira tell us your website so everybody can go there 33 tracks let's go
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meanie wave.com i'll put it in the chat meanie wave.com uh oh the almost anything could happen
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today's cds uh are great they're shipping you can order those now you'll get it in a couple days
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best of scott adams with two new tracks is out now and you can look forward to
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more scott music soon i could be making scott songs forever he dropped so many gems it's comical
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it is comical like there was like one episode he did like three weeks before he uh departed for
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the next adventure and i swear there's like 15 songs in that one episode amazing crazy amazing
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we hope you do keep making them forever and ever we'll be here and we hope i mean everybody's
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so thrilled akira i'm reading all the comments from all the platforms everybody needed this
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today they love it they feel like scott's with us um they could listen to you all the time your
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music they hope you'll come back again and again and again um someone bought the bundle today
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everybody's so happy and they appreciate the show everything and we agree meaningwave.com
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one word, meaning wave. I'll write it again. Make mine meaning wave. Meaningwave.com.
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Because happiness is a side effect of meaning. You've got to get drops, Erica. You've got to
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get drops. You've got to get guys with epic trailer voices saying stuff about how cool you are.
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You've got to have that. Yes. Let's go, guys. Drop how epic I am, please, everybody.
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cha-ching mofos um okay so akira thank you so freaking much like we so love that you're here
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with us uh we hope you'll come back time and time and time again um we i think we all did need this
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you guys we did we all needed this like very meaning wave moment so akira we thank you owen
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any last words here for akira just thanks for coming it's been a lot of fun hope you come
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on again soon. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you for all you do. God bless.
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A hundred percent. All right, you guys start saying your goodbyes. We want to always say
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thank you to Scott and Shelly for allowing this show to continue, um, you know, with,
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without that kind of coordination, cooperation, love, and respect for everything Scott built,
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we wouldn't be here right now. So who, okay. I'm fighting back the emotion. I've been doing good,
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right guys. Um, and as always, you know, go out there and be useful answer today's question.
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if you could hone in and be like a master in one skill set, what would it be? Because you can do
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it, but just let's, if you write it down and you put it out there into the universe, that's a first
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step. Uh, and don't be embarrassed. It could be anything. It can be anything. Okay. So let's have
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a final closing sip to our beloved Scott Akira. Thank you again so much. We love you. And, uh,
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we will see all of you back here tomorrow. It will be me, Owen and BJ tomorrow. Marcella,
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we miss you we'll see you monday okay everybody a closing sip to scott to scott