Real Coffee with Scott Adams - The Scott Adams School - 06⧸18⧸26 Iran Deal and more w⧸ Joel Pollak

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00:02:38.640 God. I almost just made it worse. Okay. Hang on. We have a guest coming in to join us. Let's bring

00:02:44.800 in joel pollack oh my gosh good thing joel's here actually he's going to keep us you know

00:02:53.940 on the straight and narrow owen here he comes in a park where are you joel in dc i'm actually in

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00:03:15.360 ready to give a broadcast like live on the street reporting with joel well this is dupont circle

00:03:21.220 this is the heart of dc and i spend some of my time here and i happen to be here because

00:03:27.040 my four-year-old accompanied me to drop off my two-year-old almost two-year-old and uh this

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00:04:28.740 All right, so welcome,

00:04:30.140 Joel, Joel, I'm glad that you were free today and perfect timing so we can talk about the Iran deal.

00:04:37.080 And I know that you only have about a half an hour.

00:04:39.280 So we'll dive into it and we'll we'll get silly after you leave.

00:04:44.480 But first, have you heard from Elon yet?

00:04:46.940 I have not heard from Elon.

00:04:48.180 So Elon Musk, if you're out there, please give me a call.

00:04:52.860 Yes.

00:04:54.000 He's the only person I am supposed to interview for Scott's biography

00:04:57.340 who I don't have contact information for and can't find it.

00:05:01.060 Okay.

00:05:01.820 I might be able to help with that.

00:05:06.080 But also, maybe Jay Plemons, can you make a clip for us right now?

00:05:11.720 Clip this.

00:05:12.660 Elon Musk, sir, please.

00:05:15.120 Look, I have a hat behind me on my wall that says, I love Elon.

00:05:18.800 I do.

00:05:19.380 I have all your stocks. 0.66

00:05:20.840 I'm like a fangirl, a stan.

00:05:22.640 whatever you want to call me. But please, Joel Pollack is writing Scott Adams biography. And

00:05:30.500 one request is to interview you for the book. And you are, of course, so busy, special and

00:05:38.940 important. And we love you. But please, please, please, we really want you to be part of this

00:05:42.680 book as Scott wished. So please reach out to Joel Pollack. It would mean everything. And I'll buy

00:05:48.360 more shares of Tesla and SpaceX if you do. I know that that matters to you, but it would be great.

00:05:56.000 And scene. Okay. So that wasn't my way of helping you get to them, by the way. I have another way.

00:06:03.540 So anyway, how's that going, the biography? It's going really well. I've got another couple of

00:06:09.720 weeks to work through the second draft and then the really hard work begins. The third draft

00:06:15.180 has to be finished by mid-August sometime, and that's where we're going to have to work very,

00:06:21.200 very hard to integrate all the interviews, all the research, and to produce a book that's worthy

00:06:28.280 of Scott and the people who loved him, and that helps him reach a broader audience and helps

00:06:32.880 people understand who he was and what the big lessons of his life continue to be.

00:06:38.620 That's right. Yep. Okay. I can't wait. I really can't wait. Yes, Andy Wang. I'm Italian,

00:06:44.120 and I have ways of getting to people.

00:06:46.080 That's right.

00:06:47.000 Okay, so listen, let's talk about the Iran deal.

00:06:52.180 Joel reached out to me today.

00:06:54.340 He has worked out a, what are we calling it, Joel?

00:06:59.180 I'll just call it a contrarian take on the Iran deal.

00:07:02.740 Okay, let her rip.

00:07:04.340 So let me give you the kind of two-dimensional takes 0.84

00:07:11.100 that you're hearing in media right now.

00:07:14.120 And hearing the Democrats say, Trump got nothing, we're worse off than we were before, this

00:07:22.060 was a terrible war, we never should have done it in the first place, and Trump's terrible, 1.00

00:07:26.980 Trump sucks, gas prices are high, he's just awful, he never knew what he was doing, he 1.00

00:07:32.780 wasn't prepared, and now free Palestine, or whatever. 1.00

00:07:38.080 That's the Democrat take.

00:07:40.560 The Republican take, to the extent that people are willing to, well, let me put it this way,

00:07:45.760 there's a criticism that comes from conservatives, from people who wanted the war to go well,

00:07:50.980 which is that Trump has caved, that this is taco trunk, that ultimately, despite all the bluster

00:07:59.220 and all the threats, he was not willing to take the necessary action, the risks, absorb the costs

00:08:09.020 to go to war, to finish off the Iranian regime, to completely block all the traffic through the

00:08:17.200 Strait of Hormuz, to accompany every vessel with American force, and to bring the regime to its

00:08:23.920 knees, ultimately basically to destroy it. He wasn't willing to go there. We had him on the

00:08:27.120 ropes. We're missing the opportunity. The deal is terrible. We're giving him a bunch of money.

00:08:32.360 We're not even improving on Obama's deal because Obama got these paper promises from 0.52

00:08:38.080 the regime not to pursue nuclear weapons. Remember them talking about this fatwa and all this 0.92

00:08:43.300 stuff that the regime had supposedly issued saying we can't have nuclear weapons and 0.98

00:08:48.240 this is no better than that. It's just a paper promise.

00:08:54.120 Those are the two takes out there and a lot of the people I speak to have that second take and also 0.93

00:09:00.400 if you speak to people in Israel there's an added edge to it because they feel like they have

00:09:05.700 sacrificed for the last three years, especially the last year of conflict with Iran, and it hasn't

00:09:12.040 gotten them anything. The regime is still there. There are still rockets being fired from Lebanon, 0.88

00:09:16.820 and they feel betrayed by Trump. Let me give you my take, and I was reading the 14-point plan that

00:09:28.640 they finally introduced yesterday. By the way, I think they were listening to some of my criticism

00:09:33.140 because I mocked them a little bit for having a 15-point plan.

00:09:37.460 Remember, Scott used to always say,

00:09:39.880 no plan with too many bullet points ever works.

00:09:42.400 You basically have to have one point and maybe two, maybe three,

00:09:47.420 but once you start getting the more points in a plan, it doesn't work.

00:09:50.880 So I kind of made fun of them for their initial 15-point proposal,

00:09:54.380 especially because Woodrow Wilson had 14 points,

00:09:57.540 and that was to end the First World War.

00:09:59.940 So we're only talking about a much smaller war here.

00:10:02.100 How do you have 14 points?

00:10:03.140 15 points so i think they knocked it down to 14 so they weren't wouldn't exceed woodrow wilson

00:10:08.480 which one did they remove yeah which one did they remove i don't know we didn't see the early draft

00:10:14.960 you know oh okay we'll never know um the administration released the 14 points yesterday

00:10:22.020 and some of them are a little bit concerning i was disappointed as i always am by the fact that

00:10:30.500 human rights wasn't mentioned in the points, because I think human rights are a potential

00:10:35.160 point of leverage against the regime. If you say that they have to commit to human rights reforms,

00:10:41.820 then there's no way they can fulfill the deal unless they open up their political system. And

00:10:47.940 once they do that, then they open themselves up to change from within. If the regime is overthrown

00:10:53.220 from within, then you don't have a problem anymore. So I always liked human rights, not just on

00:10:56.960 principle, but as a point of leverage. But that's not in the plan, probably

00:11:01.960 because the Iranian regime isn't stupid, and they understood that human rights is 0.86

00:11:05.840 another way of undoing them. So there are these 14 points. There's one point in 0.96

00:11:11.540 there that blew my mind, and I hear people describing this point and they're

00:11:18.460 getting it wrong, and this point I think is the key to everything. And the point

00:11:25.940 is about the 300 billion dollars in investment that the United States is agreeing to help

00:11:34.480 facilitate as part of this deal. And people are saying, how are we going to give this regime

00:11:40.320 300 billion dollars? We complained when Obama signed a deal that freed up 150 billion dollars

00:11:46.020 potentially of Iranian assets. And Trump even yesterday said it was terrible for Obama to give

00:11:51.720 Iran $1 or $2 billion in cash in exchange for American prisoners or hostages. If it's bad to

00:11:58.100 give them $1 or $2 billion, how can we give them $300 billion? But if you read the text of the 14

00:12:05.140 points, we're not giving them the money. It's not money. It's a commitment to invest $300 billion

00:12:10.300 and the $300 billion are going to be invested in infrastructure. They're going to be invested in

00:12:17.940 developments. They're going to be invested in rebuilding Iran. Now that's also interesting

00:12:24.260 because Iran wasn't really destroyed. We did not hit civilian infrastructure in this war.

00:12:30.640 We didn't. The Israelis didn't. Maybe once in a while something with dual uses for the military 0.85

00:12:35.920 and the civilian population, but we stayed away from power plants. We stayed away from roads and

00:12:40.500 bridges. We threatened to hit them, but we never actually did. So what is there to rebuild? Well,

00:12:46.380 it turns out Iran actually does have pretty neglected infrastructure, especially on

00:12:50.280 key utilities like water, and they need help. Putting it differently, you could say they've

00:12:58.100 wasted a lot of the money that they got in previous deals and from oil revenues over the

00:13:02.100 years. They've wasted it on terrorism. We're pledging $300 billion to build infrastructure

00:13:08.480 in Iran and invest in the growth of the Iranian economy. That's an investment. It's not a cash

00:13:14.980 grant it's not giving them investments in the west that they didn't already have it's 300

00:13:21.920 billion dollars it's not coming out of the u.s treasury it's an investment commitment that we've

00:13:26.800 made and my understanding is that the gulf states are going to provide some of the capital maybe all

00:13:31.800 the capital but it's a commitment to arrange 300 billion dollars of investment

00:13:35.780 it blew my mind because i think it's the key to the whole thing

00:13:42.380 and people aren't looking at it this way. They're seeing it as money for terrorism. Yes, that is how

00:13:48.940 the Obama deal works. Let me say a word about the Obama deal, another word. People say this is like

00:13:54.640 the Obama deal because we don't have more than paper promises on the nuclear program and that

00:13:58.800 kind of thing. There's one major difference everybody's overlooking, which is that when

00:14:03.900 Obama said the military option was on the table, nobody believed him. When Trump is arriving at

00:14:08.780 some similar terms, I will admit some of them look similar, he has already used the military option.

00:14:14.000 Everybody knows he's perfectly capable of using force. That's not a question anymore.

00:14:18.100 So this deal does have greater force or more likely greater consequences if it's not honored.

00:14:26.360 But getting back to this $300 billion, I think what Trump has decided to do

00:14:32.740 is to win the war by staging an economic takeover of Iran.

00:14:38.780 Iran will be rebuilt or built with investments from the United States

00:14:46.180 and from pro-Western Arab states and maybe some European states, I don't know.

00:14:51.720 But it will be built by private capital and some sovereign wealth capital

00:14:55.900 that invests in infrastructure and economic growth instead of terrorism

00:15:00.740 and that grows the Iranian economy so that the size of what's going on in Iran

00:15:06.500 dwarfs the military expenditure, the investments controlled by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard,

00:15:15.520 that the size of the economy and the degree of prosperity in Iran begins to outweigh everything

00:15:20.680 else and that the Iranian people become more prosperous. In that setup, the regime, even

00:15:26.460 though there's a provision in the agreement, first provision says we're not going to interfere in

00:15:30.480 your internal affairs. If you grow the Iranian economy and you control the way it grows through

00:15:36.740 your investments, then whether you like it or not, you control internal affairs in Iran.

00:15:44.240 And so I think what Trump has done very cleverly is lay out an economic plan in these 14 points

00:15:50.840 that will amount to us growing our way to peace by controlling and helping Iranian economic growth, 0.66

00:15:59.180 which will prevent the regime from spending that money on terrorism 0.75

00:16:02.500 and will also make the regime less relevant

00:16:04.500 to the point where people can change it more easily

00:16:07.560 or where it simply controls less and less of people's everyday lives.

00:16:10.920 So nominally you have some kind of authoritarian regime in charge,

00:16:13.920 but the everyday reality of Iran becomes much more free economically and otherwise.

00:16:18.800 And I think this is brilliant.

00:16:22.600 I think this is amazing.

00:16:24.780 You know, Obama tried the let's make an agreement

00:16:27.720 and hope they comply approach.

00:16:31.180 And Trump initially tried the let's start a war

00:16:33.740 and hope the regime falls approach.

00:16:36.260 And he got pretty close. 0.98

00:16:37.400 And I think the war was successful 0.81

00:16:38.940 in destroying Iran's military. 1.00

00:16:41.100 I think it was successful in destroying 0.56

00:16:42.380 most of the nuclear program.

00:16:44.200 Some of the nuclear material is still there.

00:16:45.780 They could give it to a terrorist group, which isn't good.

00:16:48.600 We want to stop them from doing that.

00:16:49.820 But we have a military threat

00:16:50.880 that can stop them from doing that.

00:16:51.960 We could send special forces to seize the uranium

00:16:55.180 or whatever they have if we needed to.

00:16:57.260 But this is a new approach.

00:16:59.740 This is growing your way out of conflict together.

00:17:04.640 And I don't know exactly if Scott would say that this is the way the plan was set up.

00:17:13.180 I do know that if Scott had still been around, I would have sent him a direct message on X explaining my theory.

00:17:20.220 And he would have sent some responses and we would have gone back and forth.

00:17:23.620 and maybe he would have endorsed my idea or commented on it on Coffee with Scott Adams.

00:17:30.640 But I really think we have to look at it this way.

00:17:33.660 I think this actually has a chance of working in a way that nothing else did.

00:17:38.220 Now, could we have gone in militarily and changed the regime?

00:17:41.400 Yes.

00:17:42.160 It would have had a major cost in terms of military casualties,

00:17:45.560 mostly because some of the key points in Iran don't really have any terrain that can give you cover.

00:17:50.580 People talk about Karg Island.

00:17:52.020 Trump was talking about Harg Island, but apparently it's flat and our troops would be easy to hit from there.

00:17:59.320 Even though they have the best weapons and best anti-drone technology, they would be fairly easy to hit.

00:18:06.100 The other reality we have to face is we have a midterm election coming up and the Democrats are not on board for this war.

00:18:12.720 And if the public thinks that President Trump is more interested in the Middle East than in America, then they won't vote for him.

00:18:19.260 they'll vote for the democrats and the people who would take over aren't just ordinary democrats

00:18:24.260 they are literally nazis ram plattner uh rokhana now has become kind of raving anti-semite

00:18:32.460 all these candidates who are coming up who are just off the charts democratic socialists

00:18:38.840 they are going to make trump's remaining two years impossible they're going to make the country

00:18:47.000 ungovernable and they will definitely end the war with Iran or make it a lot more difficult to

00:18:52.980 prosecute. We might like to continue it, let's say, in a position where, let's say there's no 0.97

00:18:58.620 military cost and we could just go ahead with the war. That's just not the reality we live in. And 0.57

00:19:04.580 the fact is that the midterm elections are part of the battlefield. You could look at it that way.

00:19:08.740 They're not just another election. To win the war, you have to win the election. You have to

00:19:12.360 make sure that Democrats don't have total control of Congress. So Trump had to find a way to wind

00:19:18.320 it down. So to the extent there are weaknesses in this deal, that's the reason. But I still think

00:19:23.680 that the structure of the deal could be that we are taking over Iran economically. And

00:19:31.080 here's the other brilliant thing about it. Iran is talking as if they've won. And Trump's critics 0.94

00:19:38.560 are talking as if he's lost and even some of Trump's supporters are saying this is a capitulation this

00:19:44.000 is terrible and people have accused me of being a member of the Trump cult or you know cashing a

00:19:51.280 check from Trump somehow to come to this point of view but hear me out the best way to deal with 0.79

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00:21:01.360 never mind the fact that they have to pretend to win so they can explain to their own people

00:21:08.160 why they are still in charge and they're still oppressing them and so forth they actually have

00:21:13.120 to think they won it's the only way to get them to go along with some of the provisions that are

00:21:17.620 going to undermine their control of the country in the long run when i was a kid i don't know if

00:21:22.040 anyone else saw this cartoon i think i was seven years old i was sleeping over at a friend's house

00:21:27.260 and we woke up and we saw this cartoon with the Fantastic Four.

00:21:30.480 You guys know the Fantastic Four, the Marvel characters.

00:21:33.360 Yeah.

00:21:34.020 And the Fantastic Four were always fighting Dr. Doom.

00:21:38.060 Dr. Doom was the big enemy,

00:21:40.100 and he would always come back episode after episode,

00:21:42.920 and he would fight them.

00:21:44.640 And one day, Mr. Fantastic, I think it was,

00:21:46.640 who's the guy with the rubbery arms,

00:21:48.500 he had this idea, what if we let Dr. Doom win?

00:21:52.520 Let's let him win something that doesn't matter,

00:21:54.960 and then he'll go away.

00:21:56.440 because maybe the reason he keeps fighting us and trying to destroy the world is he wants to win

00:22:02.000 and he keeps thinking he's lost. And so let's find a way for him to win. So I think Mr. Fantastic

00:22:08.140 challenged Dr. Doom to a game of chess or something like that. And he lost intentionally,

00:22:13.720 not in a way that it was obvious that he lost intentionally, but he let Dr. Doom win at chess.

00:22:18.740 Dr. Doom is so happy. He goes away, flies away on his Dr. Doom jet or whatever, never comes back.

00:22:24.260 I'm not saying that the Iranian regime works exactly the same way but I think letting them 0.89

00:22:32.400 think they've won when they haven't is extremely powerful it's a way of either surprising them if 0.85

00:22:40.800 you have to go back to conflict or it's a way of neutralizing them but ultimately for the purposes

00:22:49.100 of this agreement it's a way of making sure they don't interfere with the fact that you are coming

00:22:54.000 in with $300 billion of capital, you're going to tell them how you're going to spend it.

00:23:00.540 So I think in a really interesting and maybe genius sort of way,

00:23:06.740 this deal is the beginning of a new chapter in the Middle East.

00:23:13.300 And it would fit with what we already know about Trump, which is that he always prefers

00:23:16.820 business and growth to everything else. He's a good commander in chief in military, but

00:23:22.100 he would rather find a way to build value economically than to blow things up militarily.

00:23:31.060 So Joel, my question now is, I like everything you're saying. I agree. I think most of us would

00:23:37.520 agree. It's fine. Let the person think they won. It doesn't matter at the end of the day.

00:23:42.820 What about the people like, who I love, Bridget Gabriel, and then you're going to have your Mark

00:23:50.640 Levin, you're Ben Shapiro. So, you know, now they're starting to melt down over this. How's

00:23:56.800 that going to affect that whole group of people? Um, you know, like Bridget, I played a clip of

00:24:01.820 her yesterday, uh, Bridget Gabriel saying, you know, that they have to be completely wiped out

00:24:08.040 or so, you know, I'm wondering how people who are so stuck on just, there's only one answer

00:24:16.400 and one answer only, are they going to be able to now turn down their own rhetoric and let Trump

00:24:24.540 do what he needs to do? I would say you want them doing that. You want them doing that

00:24:32.200 because they make the military threat credible. Iran does have to believe there's some possibility 0.95

00:24:38.360 we could return to war if they don't give up their nuclear materials, for example,

00:24:43.140 or if they don't comply with their part of the agreement.

00:24:46.340 So I think that Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro and Brigitte Gabriel are doing the right thing.

00:24:52.620 I also think they sincerely believe what they're saying.

00:24:55.500 I think they like Trump, especially Mark, I know, loves Trump.

00:24:59.920 And they're looking at this and saying he caved because of the midterms.

00:25:05.680 He caved because of the oil price.

00:25:07.800 and maybe he even caved because the Arab states were putting pressure on him.

00:25:13.840 They're getting hit by missiles. They don't have Israel's defenses.

00:25:17.500 Maybe he caved because the Europeans would not help him with the Strait of Hormuz, any number of reasons.

00:25:23.840 But I think Trump's supporters are still okay with him, even if he did cave.

00:25:29.480 Some might be disappointed.

00:25:30.420 I just don't think that many people care enough.

00:25:33.400 and i think most of his supporters just want to see him continue to govern they trust him more

00:25:40.000 than they trust anybody else oh yeah and you cannot get what trump's going to give you if

00:25:44.320 democrats control all of congress and again these are not ordinary democrats i'm not one of those

00:25:49.720 people who says every election is the most important election i don't usually say that

00:25:53.340 sometimes i feel that way and i'll tell you but sometimes i don't feel that way i don't know if

00:25:58.820 this is the most important. But what I will say is these Democrats are a watershed. If they elect

00:26:03.980 Graham Plattner to the Senate and we have a literal Nazi in the Senate. OK, I don't accept

00:26:09.500 his excuses. I don't think he didn't know. I think it's all garbage. I think he got the Nazi

00:26:14.900 death tattoo because he thought it was badass. He's kind of like an early version of Nick Fuentes.

00:26:21.480 If Nick Fuentes went into oyster farming, you get Graham Plattner. So I think that having those

00:26:27.460 people in the senate having all these and you know my muslim friends who are sane will excuse 1.00

00:26:33.340 me for saying this but having all these crazy muslims in the house in the senate people who 0.99

00:26:37.880 want to destroy israel having all these people who go on hassan piker's podcast and i'm it's bad 0.97

00:26:45.620 it's bad for trump it's bad for the united states it's bad for our security bad for israel bad for 0.70

00:26:50.440 everybody. And I think caving because of the midterms is a legitimate choice. I think Trump 0.98

00:26:57.940 achieved a lot at little cost. So even if he did cave and this isn't some genius foreign policy

00:27:03.340 move, I get it because you can't go back to the genius military strategy if you have lost control

00:27:09.880 of Congress and they impeach you and you have to spend the next two years defending yourself

00:27:13.560 instead of doing what you're supposed to be doing. But I think the right way to understand

00:27:23.100 this is this is Trump's way of solving problems. And we've tried the other ways already. So why

00:27:30.020 not give this way a chance? And I always point this out, Joel, no matter what. You know, Joel

00:27:36.720 has his take on this, okay? So like everybody, we always say have their own opinions. You know,

00:27:43.180 you might have someone listening to this might have like a different priority in your life.

00:27:48.120 That's okay too. Um, I, I think, you know, I, I do have to trust in Trump, right? So he's the one

00:27:56.680 leading us. He's the most amazing negotiator and president we're ever going to see. Um,

00:28:04.820 so we just have to trust in what he's doing. You know, I, I wish I had something brilliant to say,

00:28:11.480 But I feel like so many of us reading all the different comments, we all have so many different takes on these things.

00:28:17.560 But we're going to have to just try to be satisfied with what Trump is doing and that he knows what's best for our country and moving forward.

00:28:25.620 And, yeah, the midterms are a big part of it.

00:28:29.040 You know, if we don't hold the House and the Senate and win the presidency next time around, like you think L.A. looks bad now.

00:28:39.060 I mean, that's how we're going to look.

00:28:40.820 So, Owen, go ahead. What did you want to say about this?

00:28:44.680 Yeah, well, you know, I understand and I agree that there's all these perspectives that are maybe what Scott would call a half pinion.

00:28:51.620 Because, like, you know, on the after party spaces that I did last week, someone was saying we never should have gone in there.

00:28:58.320 And it's like, OK, well, let me ask you this question.

00:29:01.120 If we didn't go in there and Iran did get a nuclear weapon and dropped it on Israel, would you regret saying we shouldn't have gone in there? 0.84

00:29:09.500 Like, that was the stated reason, at least, was to say we need to stop them from getting nuclear weapons. And so, you know, I don't know if I have any way of really knowing the truth of how close they were or whether they would have done it or not. But I do at some level, like Erica said, trust Trump to say he had whatever intelligence that says this is a threat, we need to take care of it. And so they went in and did that. 0.83

00:29:31.920 And I'm sure he probably was hoping for regime change and having the population stand up and all the rest.

00:29:38.780 But I don't think that was really the reason he went in.

00:29:42.000 I don't think he went in there to say the reason we're here is to get regime change.

00:29:47.300 I think it was to stop them from getting nuclear weapons.

00:29:49.740 And I think at least temporarily he did achieve that.

00:29:53.040 So I think in that lens, in my mind, it was a success that they did obliterate a lot of their capabilities there.

00:30:01.920 I think the other part of that was just they were building all these drones and missiles and other things to the point where if we didn't do something, they might get to the point where no one could keep up with it from a defense standpoint, Israel and otherwise. 0.60

00:30:15.120 And so I think we set them back a fair ways in terms of having the ability to attack their neighbors and attack people and eventually potentially attack us with terrorism or whatever else.

00:30:26.880 And so, you know, I see it as kind of a half pinion if you say, oh, we never should have been in there because it's like, well, OK, but, you know, there is a big consequence potentially.

00:30:36.600 And as a president, you have to make that call and say, am I going to potentially have a nuclear disaster?

00:30:42.780 And someone's going to say, why didn't you do something about it?

00:30:45.940 And I agree with that. I'll just point out that.

00:30:49.240 I think we couldn't have known.

00:30:52.400 Whether a nuclear threat was imminent or not.

00:30:54.340 so when people say we had to do this now or never because of the nuclear issue

00:30:58.620 they could be right i just don't think we know and so when people make that argument it's not

00:31:03.260 convincing to people who disagree with it because they say how did you how would you know we've

00:31:07.460 heard that for 20 years blah blah blah i think the simple reason we did this was first of all

00:31:14.460 iran launched october 7th through hamas and so this time last year when israel was fighting

00:31:23.520 iran it was the conclusion to that war that iran started through its proxies that got us to this

00:31:30.120 point but then we had an opportunity to take out the iranian leadership that for whatever reason

00:31:37.240 the israelis understood that khamenei was meeting with all his senior leaders at one place at one

00:31:42.820 time and so they were going to take the shot and see what happened and they did and that's how we

00:31:49.980 got into this i think we had planned to do something about the nuclear weapons anyway but

00:31:56.000 the timing i think simply has to do with the fact that we had an opportunity because the israelis

00:32:00.420 told us we know this is going to happen we can take up the whole leadership of the iranian regime

00:32:04.660 we then followed it to its conclusion as far as we could go without ground troops americans are

00:32:12.200 not into ground troops it's not that we're a people who are afraid of of a ground conflict

00:32:17.760 It's just that we've lived through Iraq, we know these things aren't easy, and we don't feel personally threatened yet.

00:32:24.760 It's different in Israel. In Israel, I wouldn't be sitting in a park with my four-year-old.

00:32:29.140 I'd be on the front lines because guys my age are still going into the reserves and fighting.

00:32:34.100 They're leaving their jobs, they're leaving their families, and they're going and fighting ground wars in Lebanon.

00:32:37.760 They're getting hit by drones, and they're taking out terrorists and so forth.

00:32:41.880 In Israel, they don't understand our reluctance to finish the regime off because they are already on the ground.

00:32:47.760 their husbands their fathers their brothers their sons we're just not there and it's not because

00:32:53.180 we're chicken it's because we don't have the same level of exposure to the threat doesn't make sense

00:33:00.480 for us to stop our economy to send ground troops there and if we can do it another way we should

00:33:06.220 and i think trump is figuring it out i like this idea if the 300 billion dollars if he comes in

00:33:12.800 there with the Emiratis and the Saudis. And he says, okay, you guys have been firing missiles at

00:33:17.640 us, but we're ending the war. However, you're going to let us build the water plants. You're

00:33:21.720 going to let us build the highways. And let's do what the Chinese do everywhere. We put our intel 0.99

00:33:26.280 in all of those things. We're going to monitor. We're going to put systems in that track everything

00:33:29.820 going on in your country. We're not just going to have economic leverage. We're going to have

00:33:33.020 intelligence devices everywhere. We're going to, if you sneeze, we're going to hear it in Washington.

00:33:37.100 I just think this is an incredibly opportune moment to take over and without bombing.

00:33:47.820 And I mean, bombs are the last resort, as Trump said, but I'm not opposed to bombing.

00:33:51.620 I'm pretty hawkish.

00:33:52.480 I'm just looking at this and saying, could this be an entirely different solution?

00:33:56.960 And the more I think about it, the more I like it.

00:33:59.520 And I think that's how we have to look at it.

00:34:01.920 not because we're on Team Trump, but because I don't think anybody else has a really good answer

00:34:07.980 for what to do. The people who say we should stay out and withdraw, it doesn't work. If we withdrew

00:34:12.440 now, like completely it wouldn't work. People who say that we should go to the end and knock over

00:34:16.620 the regime, okay. I sympathize with that. I hate the regime. But this is not easy. Building another

00:34:25.320 nation and, I mean, when you ask my beloved Iranian-American friends, what do you want

00:34:31.360 instead of the regime. They don't really want democracy. They want the Shah back or the Shah's 1.00

00:34:38.040 son or whatever. Can you get Americans to invest in a war that's going to restore a king?

00:34:44.080 I mean, it might be the best solution, but it's just not one that's going to convince Americans

00:34:49.200 to give anything up to do. So I think that the Iranian people, if they're going to make a move 1.00

00:34:54.280 against their regime, you know, they have the opportunity to do it now. And as they become 0.80

00:34:57.500 wealthier. You know, Alexis de Tocqueville said revolutions don't happen in a time of maximum

00:35:03.180 oppression. Revolutions happen in a time of rising expectations. If you have the emergence of

00:35:08.440 a wealthy Iranian middle class that refuses to listen to the regime anymore, that's when you're

00:35:14.040 going to get a revolution in Iran. You know, Cuba is not having another revolution. As poor as the

00:35:19.220 people are, as downtrodden as they are, they're too weak to rise up. People of Iran are too weak 1.00

00:35:23.500 to rise up but let things improve a little bit and you'll see that leaders start to emerge

00:35:27.700 i'm not sure they want democracy they might want a monarchy or something but they want more freedom

00:35:33.820 freedom and democracy are not the same thing and you can have more freedom within a system that is

00:35:41.080 more centralized and authoritarian it might not be what i like it might not be what you and i are

00:35:45.300 used to but it would be better than what they have so anyway i've gone a little over i've got to hop

00:35:51.940 on my editorial meeting, but I really wanted to share this with you. I know Jay's going to go and

00:35:56.560 clip the best parts, but I know there's a lot of despair out there and people fighting with each

00:36:01.060 other. I'm just looking at this and saying, you know, maybe we've got this all wrong. This deal

00:36:05.800 looks like it's an economic takeover if it's implemented the way I think they intend to

00:36:10.740 implement it. This is an economic takeover. And the point is this, we're going to grow the Iranian

00:36:16.640 economy and the Lebanese economy to the size where the terrorism becomes smaller and smaller

00:36:24.060 relative to what life is like in society, which becomes bigger and bigger. 0.80

00:36:28.920 Joel, let me ask you something really quick, because you're going to leave us here with

00:36:31.840 people who are like on both sides of what you're saying. And I don't feel like anyone's right or

00:36:37.500 wrong. Okay, you guys, I just, everybody's entitled to your own opinion and your own

00:36:41.960 feelings based on how you see the world. That's fine. Um, the, I want to know this, this is for

00:36:48.420 me is, doesn't this depend on BB not popping off and doing something?

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00:37:28.480 You know, I'm glad you asked that question.

00:37:31.080 BB doesn't pop off.

00:37:32.300 I know people say that he does.

00:37:33.740 I know Trump says that he does.

00:37:35.340 He doesn't do that, okay?

00:37:39.080 The reason that Israel has been attacking Lebanon is that the Lebanese terror organization, Hezbollah,

00:37:45.460 which is not controlled by the Lebanese government, has been firing rockets at Israeli civilians.

00:37:52.400 And Trump knows that. He also says that.

00:37:54.500 He says, look, I understand they've got to defend themselves, but do they have to hit a building in Beirut?

00:37:58.720 Why can't they just drop a bomb in the desert or something?

00:38:00.620 Well, it doesn't work that way, but Bibi's not popping off.

00:38:05.340 In fact, the big complaint a lot of Israelis have about Bibi is that he doesn't respond strongly enough, that he basically sits back and lets things happen too much.

00:38:15.880 And I actually asked him about that when he was here in the States a year ago, and he gave me a very interesting answer, which I'll tell you about another time.

00:38:21.720 But he doesn't pop off. 0.81

00:38:24.680 When you see Israel attacking, remember, Israel is always attacked first from Lebanon. 0.60

00:38:29.740 The Israelis don't really have an interest in attacking Lebanon.

00:38:32.980 And the reason that Israel is attacking it all is because their civilians are in bomb shelters again. 0.54

00:38:38.000 And because the northern part of the country, which was supposed to be safe after the ceasefire that Trump negotiated, is coming under fire from Hezbollah. 0.89

00:38:45.100 So, you know, I think that'll continue to be a problem because Hezbollah is going to try to test Israel's defenses. 0.76

00:38:52.180 So we're going to have a peace deal where we're going to have to live with some conflict on the edges. 0.99

00:38:56.060 but I still think that that overall things are moving in a positive direction if I'm wrong I'm

00:39:03.720 wrong we go back to war but I think certainly there's a possibility that I'm right and I haven't

00:39:10.320 heard anybody else say this I think it's the kind of thing Scott would have at least entertained I

00:39:14.340 don't know if it would have been his view but it's the kind of thing he at least would have discussed

00:39:17.780 and yeah nobody's right nobody's got the right answer because all of us basically are playing

00:39:21.820 the percentages we're all talking about what we think might happen and i also want to say joel

00:39:28.040 because this is this is what happens a perfect example just happened so i asked you that question

00:39:32.380 and there's a person in the chat that said erica i know it's just your opinion but your bias

00:39:38.020 against israel is obvious makes me want to rip my own head off when i see a comment like that

00:39:46.000 and I just want to say, I mean, it's like, hold on. Mimi, come here. Oh my God. But you guys,

00:39:53.240 it's not, I don't have a bias against Israel. It's a question that I think a lot of people

00:39:58.160 are wondering. All right. This is my daughter, Amira. She's four and three quarters. Oh,

00:40:04.400 four and three quarters. Oh, very important, Joel. So Amira is a Hebrew name. It's an Israeli

00:40:10.100 name actually um common name in israel it's a hebrew name it means princess it also means word

00:40:17.540 word it's it's it exists also in arabic a similar similar name in arabic amira take off daddy's

00:40:23.240 and show the camera okay this is my this is my yarmulke okay i'm an orthodox jew or at least i

00:40:33.840 try to be and it doesn't mean that everything i say about israel is correct

00:40:39.020 It doesn't mean I have any additional authority, but it's just a piece of my personality, which is incredibly and intensely pro-Israel.

00:40:48.300 Okay, that's enough.

00:40:51.360 I'm not biased against Israel. 0.91

00:40:53.560 I mean, there's a big part of me that wants Trump to go and finish off Iran because it would be better for America. 0.96

00:40:59.120 But yes, because it would be better for Israel.

00:41:01.280 But I'm also looking at this as an American and what will Americans tolerate?

00:41:07.260 What's in America's interest?

00:41:09.420 And what can Trump achieve?

00:41:12.280 And I'm just sitting back and looking at this.

00:41:14.100 Trump doesn't lose.

00:41:17.940 Maybe he does sometimes, but I just, I think he is aware of the criticisms.

00:41:22.740 I think he's aware that people think he's caving.

00:41:25.620 And I think he's doing his level best not to push back too hard.

00:41:30.740 Because if you push back and say, no, we're actually winning, 0.83

00:41:33.660 then you lose the piece of this where the Iranian regime thinks they've won. 0.81

00:41:37.060 Remember, this only works if the Iranian regime thinks they've won, because then you can go in and rearrange their economy. 0.84

00:41:45.060 Well, they need to save face, so. 0.90

00:41:47.260 Yeah, and I just think he is doing what he did at the outset of this conflict a year ago, which is using tactics of deception, where he said, you know, we aren't going to do this, we're not going to attack, and then he did attack.

00:41:59.720 I'm not biased against Israel.

00:42:03.700 It doesn't mean I always agree with what the Israeli government is doing,

00:42:06.280 but I'm very, very pro-Israel.

00:42:08.080 I've written books about Israel.

00:42:09.420 I try to go there whenever I can.

00:42:13.040 It doesn't mean I don't see things differently sometimes from friends and relatives in Israel.

00:42:18.420 I mean, my Israeli friends are disappointed.

00:42:19.980 They think Trump should have gone all the way.

00:42:22.540 But, you know, as someone said on the X yesterday,

00:42:25.220 stop comparing this deal with a better deal that was never going to happen.

00:42:28.500 because the midterms are part of the battlefield and you might think it looks weak to cave

00:42:35.920 just because of elections no you can't fight this we are not a dictatorship 1.00

00:42:40.580 we have to share power in this country even with idiots so um we have to take that into account 0.99

00:42:49.040 yeah and we have to make sure that we have the midterm elections behind us either to continue 0.99

00:42:55.620 the war or i think if this plan works not to continue the war let's go do the other things

00:43:01.100 that trump needs to do that was that's the that's the message right there joel it's like

00:43:05.700 okay you guys so that's where we can pivot now and at least feel like we're putting america

00:43:12.540 back in the forefront for those of us that are feeling like hello what about us what about the

00:43:18.140 elections so this deal maybe can make us feel better like okay we're pivoting back to our future

00:43:26.560 and our elections and you know not not everybody's gonna love everything not everybody you know

00:43:33.580 loves every show we do and some people hate this and some people it's okay um but we had to do

00:43:40.060 something different it can't keep going on that way and when i mentioned that about bb like everyone

00:43:44.220 calm down. I'm not anti anybody. I'm just saying it always has felt to me like we're in this with

00:43:50.920 Israel. And I feel like it's my opinion that when we get close to something, if somebody attacks

00:43:58.560 Israel and Israel has a right to defend itself, it just messes stuff up for us with whatever deal

00:44:04.820 we're trying to do. So I'm just hoping, I'm praying that everybody just stays calm and that 1.00

00:44:10.820 this can just move forward. And I don't know. I'm worried about our country and moving forward. I

00:44:17.120 don't want to see war. I don't want to see people dying. But I understand everybody has the right

00:44:22.080 to defend themselves, of course. But Joel, that's what I needed to hear, too, is we've got to look

00:44:29.220 now to our elections and the future of what's going to happen here. Because if we don't hold

00:44:35.060 power or win our elections, we're in really big trouble here. So I'm glad that we could

00:44:42.280 get to that point in this conversation. Owen, anything for Joel before he has to scooch?

00:44:47.740 I think on the back end, I agree that I think my opinion is I want Trump to put America first.

00:44:53.960 And I think he needs to focus on the economy. He needs to focus on our priorities. And so I think

00:44:58.240 if anything, I've been lobbying for saying we need to get out of here sooner. I'm glad it's

00:45:03.660 finally there hopefully that we have an agreement and we can stop the fighting and we can focus on

00:45:08.200 our own priorities yeah i think so and i think that although you know to my israeli friends

00:45:15.660 who are disappointed that trump's not going all the way i think that this is better for israel

00:45:20.860 in the long run because if what trump is trying actually works then israelis don't have to send

00:45:28.680 their sons and their husbands to war anymore you know you always have to be prepared obviously but

00:45:34.920 i i i would leave you with this thought people are depressed about this one way or the other

00:45:41.680 i don't think you need to be depressed i think that

00:45:44.800 i think trump is making the economic part of this the central part it's not the first point

00:45:54.720 in the agreement. But to me, when I look at those 14 points, it just jumps off the page

00:45:59.080 at me. $300 billion, and everyone says, how can you give them $300 billion in cash? They're

00:46:03.160 just going to spend it on terrorism. But it's not $300 billion in cash. This is not Obama's

00:46:09.580 deal. Not Obama's deal. This is an investment. And when you invest that kind of capital in

00:46:16.320 a country with a relatively small economy, you control that country. You control it.

00:46:21.580 We are going to get control, effectively, of the Iranian economy. 1.00

00:46:24.800 And this is almost like a bear hug. 1.00

00:46:26.420 It's a bear hug around Iran. 0.82

00:46:29.220 And it's almost like saying, we don't need the regime to be this or that for us to build a better Iran. 0.50

00:46:34.620 Why do we have to wait?

00:46:35.760 We got rid of their leader.

00:46:37.780 Why do we have to wait for, like, some democratic process to happen?

00:46:42.080 Let's just, let's make the economic process happen.

00:46:46.020 And if you look around the world where countries have become more free,

00:46:48.660 It doesn't always happen that making them more free economically makes them more free politically, but it happens a lot.

00:46:55.360 And I think it's worth a try. It's just worth a try, especially if you can get the rest of the Arab world to come along.

00:47:02.660 That's why Trump's talking about expanding the Abraham Accords.

00:47:05.160 And, you know, it's not the way necessarily we would have thought this ended, but we have a limited ability to understand how these things work.

00:47:14.340 And I think even though I don't think it's the greatest example to keep coming back to, I do think we learned that in Iraq.

00:47:21.680 I think that people who think that they know what's going to happen need a little bit more humility, including me.

00:47:29.400 I mean, I don't know that this is going to work, but I'd say I'm about 60 percent confident that it could.

00:47:35.780 That's the possibility I'd put on it.

00:47:37.400 All right. Listen, I hope so. We all hope so.

00:47:40.440 you know we all we all have hopes and dreams about this this conflict um all right joel you

00:47:47.560 have to go we're obsessed with amira she is the freaking cutest and the patience of a little

00:47:54.080 angel as she is named um so thank you so much and um anytime you can or want to come on let's do it

00:48:02.660 okay amira bye amira bye have a great day okay okay okay we love your daddy he's a good daddy

00:48:11.720 isn't he yeah you're a good girl too all right jill thanks all right see you bye-bye guys bye guys

00:48:20.240 oh my god how cute is amira so good all right you guys so you know listen um a little bit

00:48:32.660 of emotion with all of that uh naturally so let's uh let's regroup what we're gonna see

00:48:39.100 what happens i mean you know this whole thing has been changing so fast that tomorrow we could be

00:48:44.160 like oh they ripped it up you know whatever um but anyway we've been in that state for a while

00:48:49.920 where it's like there might be an agreement there might not be there might be more attacks there

00:48:53.540 might not be and i'm just ready to be done with it me too me too i think a lot of us are um all

00:48:59.440 All right. So here's just a little fun moment. Let's have like an interstitial sip, you guys.

00:49:06.460 And I would just like to point out that Trump is correct in this clip. I love this little clip I

00:49:13.800 came across today. He's at the G7. And it is very important, you guys, if you're ever in a meeting

00:49:20.180 or negotiating, make sure that you are never put in a shorter seat. It's very important that you're

00:49:28.400 never below the people that are talking to you. Okay. I can tell you this as a business woman

00:49:33.100 who's had many negotiations and meetings and all sorts of things with all sorts of people.

00:49:38.840 So let's take a peek at what's happening here.

00:49:50.440 He's saying that his seat's lower.

00:49:58.400 He wants a taller seat.

00:50:06.820 Now, Prime Minister Carney comes over.

00:50:12.020 He said, I had the lowest seat in the whole room.

00:50:19.320 Carney swapped seats with him.

00:50:28.400 and now he's happy. Now big daddy's happy. But I do want to say that, you know, I don't know what

00:50:36.600 the height of his chair was, if that was accurate or not. But honestly, I remember I had an important

00:50:42.960 meeting one time and I don't really care if it's a man or a woman, whoever I'm dealing with in

00:50:49.040 business, but this particular man was definitely a bit of like a chauvinist and, you know, just

00:50:55.260 wasn't taking me seriously, which was his first mistake, but I made sure I set up the room that

00:51:00.560 when he came in, I was in an exceptionally tall chair and I made it as if the only other chair

00:51:06.580 I had was this one. So he was probably like a foot below me. And I was like, suck it because

00:51:13.160 I'm not taking your crap today. And, um, I worked out a very good deal and I think I was the victor 1.00

00:51:19.580 of it, but I was like, you're not coming in here. You're not going to claim this seat. You're not

00:51:23.520 going to try to talk down to me or talk over me. Yeah, never sit in the lowest chair, you guys,

00:51:28.980 unless you genuinely just don't care about whatever meeting you're in. But anyway, just something to

00:51:34.580 think about. You think that applies to Zoom where you should position yourself at the top of the

00:51:38.760 screen? For Zoom, I think whoever's hosting it does it, right? I don't know. I don't know much

00:51:44.440 about Zoom. Well, I just mean in terms of like live streaming or being on virtual meetings,

00:51:49.060 because that's how a lot of things are now. I work mostly remotely and I'm mostly on calls.

00:51:53.520 Oh, so what do you see? What happens?

00:51:55.660 Well, it just, I mean, the question I had was like, should you, should you also try and position your camera so that you look taller than the other people?

00:52:03.240 Oh, so you appear taller. Yeah. Why not? I mean, I, for me, I like to see what crank. I like to see, like, I like how we're kind of even today because that's probably the Libra in me, but I like everybody to sort of be the same distance.

00:52:20.760 that's my goal so everyone has the same kind of view it's just me um a crank one what you

00:52:28.140 better tell me I want to see um okay so that was that and then um not to be outdone

00:52:35.540 our our little buddy in the Ukraine I guess was feeling left out and unseen

00:52:44.580 So here's the view in Russia today, thanks to Ukraine firing drones off.

00:52:57.000 So they're bombing oil refineries in Ukraine.

00:53:03.900 It's like, can everyone just calm down for like a month? 0.76

00:53:09.700 And I believe that's close to Moscow.

00:53:12.280 Yes.

00:53:14.580 it's like i mean i don't live in any of these countries that are fighting thank god but i'm

00:53:22.300 like can we all just like have a nice summer i mean we have the summer riots coming up summer

00:53:27.940 love so anyway um i don't know much about that story owen other than zelensky fired off drones

00:53:35.000 to oil refineries and now let's see what russia is going to do and here we go again

00:53:40.880 Yeah, I mean, I think that's the main story is just that they attack the refinery. But I think the bigger story might just be, you know, how much is it impacting Russia in terms of having fuel supply? And I have seen posts or stories about how there's starting to be shortages and people are waiting in line to get gas and they might be importing fuel because they don't have enough.

00:54:03.960 And so it may be a bigger strategic victory if Ukraine can keep reducing Russia's capacity to produce fuel.

00:54:13.280 Right. So, OK, so we'll see what happens tomorrow with that story.

00:54:19.760 One thing I wanted to get to the other day, you know, Joel was only going to come on for half an hour.

00:54:24.180 So, so happy that he stayed longer. And for those of you that like a deeper conversation, I think we had that.

00:54:29.880 I wanted to play this the other day about the, I call it the dehumidifier, because that's what the Obama library looks like to me, like a giant dehumidifier.

00:54:42.660 But interesting. Have you guys heard this story? Let's take a quick listen.

00:54:48.120 Subcontractors are claiming they haven't been paid yet for the work on the project.

00:54:54.200 So many of all black contractors have complained about they have not got their money.

00:54:58.660 But the other side of it, a lot of the black community and the newspapers do not know that

00:55:04.440 these people have not been paid. Contractors are already in bankruptcy. That's what they're saying,

00:55:08.980 that if it wasn't the fact that they worked on this Obama project, they would not be under this

00:55:14.420 type of problem. You can file that with you can keep your doctor. The Obama presidential center

00:55:20.320 officially opens to the public in Chicago this Friday. Those are your headlines. And I know,

00:55:26.560 rachel you are going to be first in line okay so just i just find that interesting because oh my

00:55:33.200 god if you know if they heard a story about trump paying a contractor five minutes late or

00:55:38.960 using bankruptcy to his advantage which is a thing people it's an actual thing um oh my god

00:55:45.520 the freak out so i find that interesting i i don't know much more than that but i know there

00:55:50.540 is more news about it so i have to check it out yeah and and that's not the only contractor there's

00:55:55.780 a bunch of them that are owed a bunch of money and i think it's in the millions and um i know

00:56:00.800 there's some complaints that they were asked to do like what they described as unnecessary rework

00:56:05.240 um so they were you know asked to do extra work and now it looks like they're not getting paid

00:56:10.100 for it so it's that whole project just seems like a disaster i've heard other problems with it where

00:56:15.380 they were supposed to put some massive amount of money like many millions of dollars into some kind

00:56:20.620 of escrow fund to pay for all the maintenance over a certain number of years, and they didn't

00:56:26.640 do it or they haven't done it. And so there's a lot of questions as to what's going to happen

00:56:31.540 with this thing. And the fact that they're not even paying their contractors tells me maybe they

00:56:35.340 are short on cash already and they're not going to be able to keep it going. And I think they're

00:56:41.380 expecting a lot of people to just volunteer to work there. So they're not necessarily going to

00:56:44.700 pay everybody that works there. And it just seems like a huge disaster from start to finish.

00:56:48.980 uh fully agree huge disaster okay and then one last thing because okay so your algorithm owen 0.70

00:56:58.240 you said is filled up with ukraine mine is filled up with the um r-a-p-e gang inquiry and

00:57:07.940 this so i'm glad i found this second clip so i remember this uh podcast with piers morgan and

00:57:16.700 chenck was on and um don keith was on and he was talking about what was going on um with these

00:57:24.940 young girls 250 000 um you guys thank you so much for taking it on yourselves to read what i'm

00:57:34.700 talking about i just i want to be careful i don't want the channel to get in trouble and whatever

00:57:38.700 but um so pierce morgan you know he always has like this way too many people on his show like

00:57:44.540 all yelling at one time it's obnoxious but take a listen to this and what i want to know

00:57:51.980 will you know i always say it's a superpower that when you get new information you pivot your opinion

00:57:57.020 and you change your mind what i want us to look out for if anybody sees piers morgan or chenk

00:58:04.460 doing a pivot please alert me because i want to see what happens but here's here's the clip uh

00:58:10.860 This is from Don Keith's point of view.

00:58:13.560 Just a few weeks before Rupert Lowe's rape gang inquiry report was released in Britain, 0.99

00:58:19.040 I appeared on Pierce Morgan's show where he called my claim of 250,000 young girls being raped by Pakistani Muslim men utterly ridiculous. 1.00

00:58:28.100 Fine, 250,000 of your women are being raped by Muslim, but it's OK. 1.00

00:58:32.300 Again, utterly ridiculous statement. 1.00

00:58:34.580 Go to Birmingham, go to Manchester. 1.00

00:58:36.140 Utterly ridiculous statement. 1.00

00:58:37.300 As I've said repeatedly, the vast majority of sexual crime against women in the UK, the vast majority of sexual crime against women in my country is committed by white men. 1.00

00:58:50.920 Oh, here we go. You've never heard of Per Capita. 0.97

00:58:53.220 I have heard of Per Capita. 1.00

00:58:55.380 It's disproportionately committed by Muslims against white Christians because it's a rape genocide. 1.00

00:59:00.140 All right, let me bring check in. 0.98

00:59:02.420 So I wonder what Pierce thinks now that Rupert Lowe's rape gang inquiry report has now been released and has confirmed that number. 0.67

00:59:09.920 In fact, the scale of Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs raping British girls across the country was even worse than many of us warned.

00:59:19.000 For years, the media, politicians, and so-called journalists actively worked to downplay, dismiss, and gaslight anyone who tried to expose this horror. 0.95

00:59:29.400 They protected the narrative instead of protecting the victims.

00:59:34.040 Thousands of young British girls were systematically raped, trafficked, and destroyed while the establishment looked the other way because they were terrified of being called racist.

00:59:44.500 So now everyone who downplayed it owes all of those victims and their families a public apology.

00:59:50.020 But we know they won't because they still care more about their reputations and political correctness than they do about the truth.

00:59:57.160 exactly what suicidal empathy is about right so they cared more about that you know they didn't 0.93

01:00:05.400 want to be called a racist because why why who cares what somebody calls you 250 000 girls but

01:00:12.540 and mind you like i it's such a delicate subject on here you guys it's so hard to physically talk

01:00:19.180 about it, but please look into the RAPE gang inquiry report. Um, because it's not like it was

01:00:27.420 one, I'm going to say assault per girl. It was hundreds, let's say per girl. Okay. Hundreds of

01:00:36.580 times. Um, and the most degrading, vicious things you've ever seen. That's really all I'm going to

01:00:42.000 say about it at this point. Um, but please check it out and listen, we have two minutes left and,

01:00:48.720 And Owen, I just want to show you a quick clip of aspiring actor Adam Schiff, because

01:00:57.880 he always wanted to be an actor, always.

01:01:00.180 So wait, look at, just look at him and this posturing.

01:01:04.600 Oh, OK, this is about our new trillionaire, Elon Musk.

01:01:08.700 What would a trillion dollars pay for?

01:01:11.720 Well, a trillion dollars, if we decide to distribute that equally among American households,

01:01:16.900 your household would get $7,500. Every household in America could get $7,500 from that trillion

01:01:26.260 dollars. It would also pay for the complete four-year college education of 7.7 million

01:01:35.560 American students. So you can take all the tuition, all the room and board, all the costs of all of

01:01:41.560 that for seven and a half million students and pay for it by the wealth of our first trillionaire.

01:01:49.520 It costs a lot to raise kids in America. Well, you can take 4.3 million kids and raise them from

01:01:57.320 birth until 18, pay for everything they need. Oh my God. And he goes on and on. What the hell

01:02:04.380 is he talking about? Have you seen that? I mean, is he the biggest actor ever? It's ridiculous. 0.90

01:02:10.680 I mean, it's like, I mean, first of all, he's talking about wealth confiscation, you know, without saying it, but he's saying, I want to take away all the wealth from somebody just because they're rich. 0.90

01:02:22.940 Second, you'd probably have to essentially erase or ruin his companies to do that.

01:02:29.600 And if you tried to actually pay for those things, it wouldn't end up anywhere near that amount because you'd have to sell it all and the price would go just way down to the point where it would end up being some small fraction of that.

01:02:42.460 The only reason it stays at a trillion dollars is because he's not selling it or he's only selling really small amounts of it at a time.

01:02:49.500 And that's one of the realities in the stock market.

01:02:52.160 And that's one of the things with all this wealth tax talk that the Democrats like to have is that you can't do that.

01:02:58.740 And you'd end up forcing farmers to sell their farms, forcing people to sell their houses, forcing people to liquidate their businesses, and it would ruin all of it.

01:03:09.280 And it wouldn't even be worth what you supposedly thought it was worth by doing that.

01:03:13.720 And so it's just ridiculous the way the Democrats try to frame these things. 0.97

01:03:18.280 It's so gross. 0.88

01:03:19.220 And also, it's like, who do you think would make better use of $7,500?

01:03:24.460 $7,500, you guys.

01:03:26.440 It's a nice little chunk.

01:03:27.600 It's not going to change your life.

01:03:28.740 But who could change a life better with $7,500, me or Elon Musk?

01:03:35.340 My money is on Elon.

01:03:36.580 So let the man cook.

01:03:38.980 Congratulate him.

01:03:40.440 He's doing great things for the world. 0.99

01:03:44.860 But these Democrats are insane. 0.99

01:03:48.980 Insane. 0.99

01:03:50.740 Yes, and $7,500 will be wasted by 99% of the people who receive it, 100%.

01:03:55.860 hundred percent but it's just with all the COVID payments and checks and things they just

01:04:00.800 immediately get spent and then they're back where they started and it goes right back to the people 0.98

01:04:06.180 providing the products and services exactly so so stupid but anyway all right we're two minutes over 0.98

01:04:11.620 because I put shift in there but anyway I know I can't bear to look at his face either all right 0.97

01:04:16.680 you guys so guess who will be here tomorrow Marcella because don't forget you guys tomorrow's

01:04:23.420 um, federal holiday. So make sure you have your, um, Juneteenth trees up and your decorations.

01:04:31.460 It comes and goes quickly. Um, so we'll be back tomorrow morning with Marcella and, uh, tomorrow

01:04:39.500 we can do the whiteboard we had planned for today. Okay. So Owen, any closing words?

01:04:46.580 No, I'm good. I think we've done it for today. We can cover more news probably tomorrow.

01:04:51.300 all right that's maybe some other things okay so let's um let's say goodbye i'll close out with

01:04:58.260 the basket case theory song from akira the dawn and you guys thanks for a fun chat today and um

01:05:06.320 you're all a pleasure youtube you're a pleasure whether you like it or not and um we'll see you

01:05:13.040 in the morning okay let's have a closing uh thank you to scott and to shelly for allowing the show

01:05:18.620 to continue and as always a closing sip to our beloved scott who we miss so much and we'll get

01:05:25.620 to see a whiteboard with him tomorrow so to scott to scott thanks owen thanks guys bye everyone

01:05:36.000 And thanks for coming.

01:05:40.500 Everybody is someone else's weirdo.

01:05:45.320 Everybody is someone else's weirdo. 0.86

01:05:50.080 Everybody is someone else's weirdo.

01:05:54.900 Everybody.

01:05:57.040 Do you ever feel to yourself, man, I am so weird.

01:06:01.580 If anybody found out how weird I am, I'd be in trouble.

01:06:06.000 because man I'm so weird well I would like to introduce to you the basket case theory

01:06:13.020 something I developed when I was a young man to explain what I was witnessing it goes like this

01:06:19.920 if you meet a stranger it could be somebody you want to date or just somebody you work with

01:06:25.560 maybe just a friend when you meet them don't they seem pretty complete

01:06:30.600 have their act together pretty well.

01:06:33.400 Man, that stranger.

01:06:35.520 I wish I could be like that stranger

01:06:37.120 because that stranger doesn't have anything weird about them.

01:06:40.740 They've got their act together

01:06:41.920 and on the inside, pretty confident and pretty capable.

01:06:47.000 And then time goes by

01:06:49.680 and you learn more about your date

01:06:53.420 or your friend or your co-worker.

01:06:56.340 And suddenly, there's a flaw.

01:06:58.780 Oh, well, I didn't see that on day one, but there does seem to be a flaw.

01:07:04.260 Maybe a little weirdness.

01:07:06.680 Day 10, looks like there's more than one flaw. 0.99

01:07:09.220 Two years later, well, I guess everybody's fucked up. 0.96

01:07:16.040 That's the best in case theory. 0.99

01:07:21.280 Everybody looks good until you get to know them.

01:07:24.540 Once you get to know a human being

01:07:28.060 There are always basket cases 0.99

01:07:29.740 Well, I guess everybody's fucked up 0.99

01:07:31.980 That's the basket case theory 0.99

01:07:36.760 Everybody looks good

01:07:41.820 Until you get to know them

01:07:43.780 Once you get to know a human being

01:07:47.260 There are always basket cases

01:07:48.940 Always

01:07:50.620 Just different kinds of baskets 1.00

01:07:54.540 As soon as you realize that every fucking person is a basket case, you're free. 1.00

01:08:03.900 You're free. 0.99

01:08:08.960 What is it that bothers you more than anything as long as you're healthy and you have a job?

01:08:14.240 What bothers you more than anything is what people think of you, or what you think they think of you, or what they might think of you, or how they would treat you if you did this embarrassing thing.

01:08:32.000 you're not better than them

01:08:38.960 that's your case theory

01:08:41.560 you're not better than them

01:08:44.020 they're just people you don't know that well

01:08:46.660 that's it

01:08:48.220 there's nothing else to the story

01:08:51.300 you just don't know them that well

01:08:53.640 if you did

01:08:58.040 you wouldn't be impressed

01:09:02.000 everybody looks good until you get to know them once you get to know a human being

01:09:18.640 They're always bad cases. 0.99

01:09:20.460 Well, I guess everybody's fucked up. 0.99

01:09:25.500 That's the best in case theory. 0.99

01:09:30.780 Everybody looks good until you get to know them.

01:09:35.320 Once you get to know a human being, they're always bad cases.

01:09:48.640 my new favorite song that was so great you guys thank you so much for the

01:10:18.480 kind words and the love. I miss him so much. Yeah. Lemon Minty. That's how I miss, miss him too. Like

01:10:24.400 deep, right? Deep. But you guys, thank you so much. We'll be back tomorrow. Um, I appreciate

01:10:31.220 all of you. And, um, thanks for helping keeping Scott's, um, memory alive through his channels.

01:10:37.700 This is what he wanted. This is what he wanted. He didn't want us to be him, but he wanted us to

01:10:42.000 be together and we are. So thank you, you guys. Oh, thanks, Becky. Thank you so much. All right,

01:10:49.720 you guys. So we'll see you tomorrow. Okay. Have a great day. Be useful. Do something fun. Don't

01:10:54.880 take shit from anybody. Okay. All right. Love you guys. Bye. 0.99

01:11:12.000 Thank you.

01:11:42.000 It doesn't want to end.

01:12:12.000 Thank you.

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