Real Coffee with Scott Adams - The Scott Adams School - 07⧸06⧸26 WALTER KIRN Joins. MK ULTRA and More

00:00:00.000 everybody look who's here it's uncle walter he's back don't call me uncle

00:00:05.280 cry uncle but don't call me uncle

00:00:09.600 you guys walter kern in the house you guys wanted him he heard the call and here he is

00:00:17.220 thank you walter so just waiting for everybody to file in and you guys guess what i think we had to

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00:02:12.060 Good morning, you guys.

00:02:12.980 It is July 6, 2026.

00:02:15.020 The weekend was full of festivities and a little bit of insanity and crazy weather and all this other stuff, but we were celebrating the 250th birthday of this amazing country, America, and who better to help us wrap up all things that we've been talking about.

00:02:35.980 So I asked Walter, can we chat about MKUltra? We talked about it last week, and you guys were so

00:02:43.220 amazing with your feedback. Many of you had never heard about it. And Walter's like, let's do it.

00:02:48.120 So Walter, are you ready to get into some MKUltra and a little bit of America today?

00:02:54.100 Well, I'm always ready for everything. I walk down the street ready for everything. If someone

00:02:59.260 came up to me and wanted to discuss those subjects, I'd sit down with them. But I have

00:03:03.760 forgotten more than I, you know, may still know about MKUltra because it's been a preoccupation

00:03:10.660 of mine since I was a college student, first found out about it in the late 70s, right after it had

00:03:16.300 ended. Allegedly. Well, as I say, they change code names, they don't end things. If they work,

00:03:24.500 you can be sure they're not ending them. If they don't work, they keep going trying to make them

00:03:29.280 work. So I'm sure very few of these endeavors ever end. All right. Well, so Owen and Marcella,

00:03:37.340 we had a lot of fun talking about this last week. Can I stop you with something? I just saw the

00:03:44.360 book Chaos go up and I've got to alert the audience to something very strange. In the book Chaos,

00:03:51.680 which is about the Manson family and the possible links of Charles Manson to the MK Ultra program,

00:03:56.840 There is a mysterious CIA agent whose job was to penetrate the L.A. music and hippie scene of the late 60s.

00:04:05.680 And he went under a cover name.

00:04:10.320 O'Neill, the author, finally found out what his real name was.

00:04:14.680 But his cover name was peculiar because it's one I have only encountered once in one other person.

00:04:21.240 And that's my father, Walter Kern.

00:04:23.660 no that's amazing yeah the the sort of mystery man of uh chaos is named walter kern he spells

00:04:33.840 it with an e in the book but remember he's just spelling a name that he's heard what is not

00:04:41.080 written down so when i noticed that when the book first came out people started calling me and saying

00:04:47.400 what the heck and i thought it quite possible that this agent had stolen my father's identity

00:04:56.200 uh it had it's a it's i can tell you a rare name it does not exist they're only they're only very

00:05:05.240 few kerns and with the last name ki but walter is not a name i've ever heard in my life except i read

00:05:12.440 it in the book on mk ultra was your father in the hippie and la music scene no he wasn't and

00:05:20.920 he wasn't at all he was a graduate of princeton university was at that time working for uh the 3m

00:05:28.440 corporation but you know in the days before google and all this cross-referencing you could probably

00:05:35.240 take somebody, you know, in Minnesota, and in case anyone ever looked up the name, they would

00:05:43.700 find, oh, this guy went to college, and so and so, you know, you could kind of cover your background

00:05:50.460 with a false name. Right. A lot easier then than now. Yeah. Oh, that's amazing. We were recommending

00:05:57.840 the chaos book to people also. It is very interesting. Well, you know what, so let's

00:06:04.500 play let's play you were on greg gutfeld and he loved asking you about mk ultra so we'll just

00:06:11.820 open it up with you giving this explanation with greg and man do you just look so handsome on the

00:06:18.020 show with that oh my god walter you are giving it let me just walk in off the street man barely put

00:06:23.840 on makeup just yeah yeah yeah so check him out be be forewarned people he's he's looking good

00:06:30.200 Here we go.

00:06:31.360 Three in five words.

00:06:38.000 Yeah.

00:06:43.620 Investigations into MKUltra begin.

00:06:46.780 I have to go to you again, Walter, first, because this is right up your alley.

00:06:51.340 Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna.

00:06:53.780 Anna Paulina Luna.

00:06:55.600 SHE IS A CONGRESSIONAL

00:06:57.600 CONGRESSIONAL HEARING ON THE

00:06:59.600 CIA'S COLD WAR ERA MK ULTRA

00:07:02.600 PROGRAM.

00:07:03.600 IT WAS THE SECRET OPERATION

00:07:06.600 THAT TESTED LSD ON UNWITTING

00:07:09.600 SUBJECTS.

00:07:10.600 TELL ME EVERYTHING YOU KNOW 0.99

00:07:13.600 ABOUT THIS.

00:07:15.600 WELL, ONE THING IS THAT IT

00:07:18.600 SUPPOSEDLY ENDED IN 1973.

00:07:20.600 SO WHY WE ARE HAVING HEARINGS

00:07:22.600 ON IN 2026 IS MYSTERIOUS IN

00:07:25.600 except maybe it didn't end.

00:07:28.020 Now, MKUltra was a program designed to create

00:07:32.280 something like remote control assassins,

00:07:35.360 using drugs and subliminal messages and so on.

00:07:40.060 And it was targeted at individuals.

00:07:42.840 But honestly, what I think it really wanted to do

00:07:46.040 was not just get people to assassinate others,

00:07:48.560 but get millions of people to cheer on the assassinations.

00:07:52.000 I THINK IT MOVED INTO THE

00:07:54.500 INFLUENCING THE PUBLIC MIND,

00:07:56.060 NOT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL MIND.

00:07:57.520 AND I THINK THAT THE REASON THAT

00:07:58.880 THEY'RE HAVING THESE HEARINGS NOW,

00:08:00.320 WHICH IS A LITTLE MYSTERIOUS, IS

00:08:02.220 THAT THEY'RE HINTING THAT SOME OF

00:08:04.020 THE VIOLENCE YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT

00:08:05.960 NOW IS NOT ENTIRELY ORGANIC.

00:08:08.660 THAT'S OBVIOUSLY WHAT THEY'RE

00:08:11.360 SHOWING.

00:08:11.700 I MEAN, WHY 50 YEARS LATER?

00:08:13.540 YEAH. 0.55

00:08:16.480 IS YOUR HEAD BLOWN? 0.94

00:08:18.220 YEAH. 0.79

00:08:18.860 YES.

00:08:20.000 this could explain a lot of charade's comedy yeah when were you born charade 73

00:08:29.420 wait a minute wait a minute i too okay i'm just gonna stop it there because i want to talk to

00:08:37.560 you walter i love that i love charade by the way um and obviously greg so is that true that they

00:08:45.680 think maybe some of the shenanigans today are linked it's true that i think it i mean let's

00:08:52.720 let's be real what kind of hearings have we uh and secrets have we been privy to in the first

00:09:00.800 part of the trump administration jfk assassination now we're supposedly in the middle of a

00:09:07.600 disclosure about ufos it's kind of coming and going uh it's hard to say where it will end

00:09:13.120 and this mk ultra business it's it's clear that the secrets of the cold war and the secrets of

00:09:19.360 the american intelligence system are of some relevance to people on the inside in a way that

00:09:26.880 they haven't quite revealed to us i mean yeah transparency blah blah blah you know um openness

00:09:34.160 and all those other words but i think they are uh trying to how can i put it cultivate the

00:09:42.480 american mind for revelations that might be disturbing and even more uh relevant to our

00:09:50.000 moment than these old cia programs all right so yeah so yeah you know if one of the chief 0.65

00:10:00.000 goals of mk ultra was to prepare assassins to wipe minds brainwash people such that they would be

00:10:09.680 willing to carry out morally repugnant acts uh it could be quite relevant we've certainly had a

00:10:16.160 rash of rash of mysterious assassinations uh committed by the sort of people that mk ultra

00:10:23.280 focused on young impressionable men yeah and i mean i mean this show could go so deep and so

00:10:32.720 down rabbit holes based on the assassination attempts um but that's like for erica after dark

00:10:39.600 nothing i don't want to link this whole group to that stuff but um it is something um actually will

00:10:46.240 you tell them also when we were talking before the show about the year in vegas and what you

00:10:51.600 were saying about the people that they'd bring out to the desert well in general the history of

00:10:57.760 the u.s government's experimentation on its people and its citizens is uh probably as dark uh uh an

00:11:06.240 episode in our history as exists in vegas they you know according to the locals and and this is

00:11:13.520 affirmed and confirmed by a lot of other historical uh testimony they would pick people up off the

00:11:21.840 street you know and believe me in vegas uh people on the street to be picked up are everywhere you

00:11:27.840 know last night's party has left them unconscious in a corner and they would bring them on out to

00:11:33.760 the what was called the nevada test site where they tested the atomic bomb and uh and and there

00:11:40.000 were you know many tests it wasn't that they did it twice and use them uh as witnesses uh put them

00:11:48.960 into trenches, blow up an atomic bomb, and then test them to see what effects it had. So MKUltra 0.53

00:11:58.120 was experimentation of another kind. It usually used things like LSD, hallucinogenic drugs,

00:12:05.300 sleep deprivation, extreme sexual stimulation was another one. I thought one of the most

00:12:12.120 interesting uh aspects of the new hearing was this testimony about a program called midnight climax

00:12:20.920 in which the uh cia basically had observers behind one-way glass or some other sort of veil

00:12:29.240 watching men cavort with prostitutes and then it would drug them with lsd and i don't know

00:12:36.840 observe even more closely what they did what they said what they wanted well the the witness

00:12:44.520 uh in the hearings said that in fact they never really harvested any useful information from this

00:12:50.760 program but the agents involved did sleep with the prostitutes quite often in fact they basically

00:12:59.000 created an excuse for an in-house brothel i was kind of thinking the same thing and i think what

00:13:04.120 kind of freaked out people that had never heard of MKUltra is that we do do some sick things to

00:13:12.840 people. And I think people may have thought that's just something like in a movie or you're watching

00:13:19.220 House of Cards or some other crazy movie. But again, you guys, I'm just saying it because I

00:13:26.180 don't want my car to blow up. Allegedly, my opinion and everyone on this show that, yeah,

00:13:30.680 we do really messed up things. And if you didn't know that, it's kind of a hard pill to swallow

00:13:36.240 when you first start learning these things. It's very hard to experiment on the citizens

00:13:42.000 of a democratic system, which is based on consent. And so you've got a bunch of options if you want

00:13:50.600 to do it. And they were determined to do it because they believed that the results of these

00:13:56.140 experiments would allow them to win the cold war beat communist china beat russia and so on and so 0.66

00:14:02.780 they either had to lie about them or they had to intoxicate or compromise people to get them

00:14:09.020 involved or they had to you know use their own people which they did in many cases i mean uh mk

00:14:17.420 ultra drove crazy many cia agents and and and government operatives who one of whom famously

00:14:24.780 committed suicide by jumping out a window or perhaps being pushed. It's unclear. So

00:14:30.220 these experiments, which I would submit, went right on through COVID. I mean, what was COVID

00:14:38.540 but a mass experiment in what people would take, what they'd believe, what they'd say,

00:14:43.860 what they'd do, what they wouldn't do in a so-called pandemic? As I say, the thing about

00:14:50.600 mk ultra disclosure that i find a little bit one-sided is we are not getting the social

00:14:59.080 psychology side we're getting the side of that sort of sexy and dramatic about people you know

00:15:04.920 taking lsd or cavorting with prostitutes but we're not finding out what they learned about moving

00:15:11.960 millions of people using the media which i think has been really their chief concern frankly

00:15:19.080 Yeah, you want a few remote control killers, but what you really want is a population that will believe what you tell them, even though it's untrue.

00:15:30.220 And techniques for doing that have been studied, I can tell you, from long before MKUltra came along and are still being studied and used on social media and mainstream media.

00:15:43.980 Marcella, I saw you squirming. What did you want to say?

00:15:47.500 no it's just you you brought up good points about covid and how it was you know you went from

00:15:56.000 oh everything's okay to like no we must form a line we must get toilet paper we must do this

00:16:02.040 we must do that and i'm wondering mk ultra was an american um experimentation on people but i'm

00:16:11.280 wondering how far China has gone with experimentation on their own people.

00:16:16.260 And I'm wondering whether they have their own, I'm sure they do, 0.72

00:16:21.520 their own MKUltra.

00:16:23.220 And I'm wondering.

00:16:24.560 You're wondering whether who has their own.

00:16:27.800 China.

00:16:28.520 Of course, of course they do. 0.85

00:16:30.660 And so like COVID, is COVID an MK, a U.S. kind of brainwashing or is it China? 0.65

00:16:37.200 It's like so hard to tell nowadays. 0.67

00:16:40.080 It's your boy Fauci. 0.95

00:16:41.280 COVID is a co-production, just like the virus itself, between China and the U.S., as far as I can tell. 0.96

00:16:51.260 And I have pretty good information. 0.89

00:16:53.640 You know, I belong to something called the Brownstone Institute, which is a sort of think tank,

00:16:58.020 which combines a lot of the people who had questions during COVID, scientists, journalists, politicians, and so on.

00:17:04.880 And they've done a pretty good job of answering what actually happened.

00:17:12.480 So, yeah, China has its own program.

00:17:14.780 We have our own program.

00:17:16.140 But, you know, you mentioned toilet paper.

00:17:17.980 Let's take that.

00:17:18.700 Let's isolate that.

00:17:20.680 What was the toilet paper shortage all about in COVID?

00:17:25.240 What really?

00:17:25.740 What was it about?

00:17:26.720 And I'll tell you what.

00:17:27.700 It was about getting everyone on the same page.

00:17:30.580 It was the first injection of hypnotically, because Scott was the right man at the right time in the sense that he understood hypnosis, of hypnotically induced action.

00:17:46.260 It gave everybody something they could do that melded them into a great herd of, you know, lemmings.

00:17:53.640 And suddenly we're all at the grocery store, looking at one another, pulling down big 12 0.57

00:18:00.240 packs of Charmin off the shelves, pushing them in our carts, and we suddenly are operating

00:18:05.600 as one organism.

00:18:07.320 And we're operating as a brainless organism, which is being stimulated merely by the idea 0.99

00:18:13.480 of not having something to wipe our asses with. 0.97

00:18:16.900 That's interesting though, when you think about that. 0.97

00:18:19.180 Yes, everybody was like, we need toilet paper, we need masks, do you have any extra masks?

00:18:23.640 i need hand sanitizer you know all this stuff and everybody was like on the hunt for it i remember

00:18:29.880 an ad for one of the uh paper companies that manufactures toilet paper uh early in covet

00:18:36.840 and it showed a truck high you know a high drone shot of a semi on a lonesome highway at night

00:18:45.000 and it was delivering toilet paper to the you know frightened americans even though you know it was

00:18:51.880 dangerous to be out there on the road and in your truck and you know bringing things to warehouses

00:18:58.360 these like the u.s post office you know neither storm or sleet nor dark of night would deter the

00:19:06.200 toilet paper delivery and and that and that was another social psychology trick to convince people

00:19:14.840 that while they stayed home, while they huddled, while they locked down, heroic essential workers

00:19:23.200 were doing the bidding of, you know, God or the government or whoever it was that was going to

00:19:29.720 save us. Go ahead, Owen. It just seemed to me like they pushed it as far as they could push

00:19:34.860 it, almost like they were testing the limits of it, though, because they had these stupid 0.99

00:19:39.040 rules that would not make any sense. Like, oh, you have to wear a mask when you walk to your 0.99

00:19:44.160 restaurant table but you don't have to wear it when you're eating and or maybe you can you know

00:19:48.960 just wear it between bites but it's like and I you know I took some flights during that time and it

00:19:54.000 was like you know you have to wear a mask unless you're eating and then you're okay as long you can

00:19:59.160 eat for as long as you want but you just you know you have to wear your mask when you're not eating

00:20:04.660 and and then you know they had like the summer of love thing where they're like well that's more

00:20:09.120 important than co so we can just let everybody have these mass protests where everybody's packed

00:20:14.540 together and it just what masks did well first of all giving people contradictory instructions

00:20:20.820 instructions that make no sense is a um another psychological control technique because once

00:20:29.760 people start doing things without a reason illogical things they once their obedience

00:20:36.040 no longer resides in their logical mind,

00:20:40.940 but it's simply a matter of hearing instructions

00:20:42.820 and following them,

00:20:44.520 no matter whether or not they make sense,

00:20:46.260 and especially when they don't make sense.

00:20:48.220 Then you have crossed a boundary inside the individual

00:20:51.100 in which they have themselves

00:20:52.760 become remote control beings.

00:20:55.400 I remember the nadir,

00:20:57.840 the low point of COVID illogic for me was on a plane.

00:21:02.340 And, you know, remember masks were incredibly important on planes and the flight attendant pushes up the Coke tray or the, you know, the cart and says something to me.

00:21:16.620 What do I want? And I diet Coke.

00:21:19.920 Well, she said, what? Because I'm speaking through a mask.

00:21:23.160 She said, what? So I pull the mask down and said, put the mask back up.

00:21:27.940 Well, you either want to hear me speak clearly, or you want me to wear a mask, but it can't be both. And her, and was a she in this case, her sternness with me was also troubling.

00:21:44.700 because what masks did was they turned us into prisoners and guards. There's a famous Stanford

00:21:51.660 prison experiment, which is part of the history of American social psychological experimentation

00:21:58.380 in which they divided test subjects into guards and prisoners in order to see just how sadistic

00:22:05.200 they could get normal people to behave if they were given uniforms and the status of guards.

00:22:11.840 And we gave flight attendants and other people the status of guards in this vast experiment.

00:22:17.200 We found out that they could be stern, illogical, rather sadistic and unrelenting if given a little bit of authority.

00:22:26.080 And we found out that people on planes would apologize for taking down their mask in order to speak because they were commanded to be more clear.

00:22:35.740 And I don't think anybody wants to remember COVID particularly who wasn't really seriously affected by it because our behavior was so shameful, so childish, so ridiculous, and really, I think, humiliating that we've put it all in the past.

00:22:59.160 And I do agree that there's enough of us now that are just like, absolutely never again 0.67

00:23:05.140 are we going to allow you to control the masses with nonsense.

00:23:09.660 I mean, right?

00:23:11.020 You know, yes, we thought that that was our nature as Americans before COVID came along.

00:23:17.900 We thought we were rebellious, independent individualists who, you know, thought for

00:23:22.720 ourselves and questioned authority and so on.

00:23:25.780 We were told that that's exactly who we were.

00:23:28.000 Well, we found out otherwise. And I'm afraid that the confidence of a lot of COVID skeptics, meaning people who found the whole experiment rather distasteful and horrifying, is probably misplaced because though there are a lot of people who won't get fooled again, the who song won't get fooled again is 50 years old.

00:23:51.320 And we did get fooled again, meaning it's probably innate in us that we're going to respond to authority largely with submission.

00:24:00.740 I hope that the vaccine aftermath will persuade more people, though, to stay strong.

00:24:09.220 OK, so for me, I've disclosed this before.

00:24:12.160 I didn't get any vaccines.

00:24:13.200 I was just like, absolutely not.

00:24:15.020 I'm not afraid of a needle.

00:24:16.060 I was afraid of being experimented on.

00:24:18.220 and that's how i saw it immediately not even a second did i consider getting it and man oh man 0.98

00:24:26.100 all right first of all the strongest people were the ones that had to take the bullshit from people

00:24:31.200 about not getting vaccinated and like besides the media freaking out on you like friends that were

00:24:36.660 like you can't come over and don't be near me and you know and it was like i don't listen i don't

00:24:41.900 care i don't care about your baby shower or you're this or you're that i'm i'm worried about myself

00:24:46.620 at this point. And then I think seeing what injuries have happened and all the problems

00:24:53.320 with the vaccine now with people's health, I think a lot of people that just got in line and did it,

00:24:59.480 and I get it. Fear is very compelling. So you're afraid, whatever, and you got these vaccines,

00:25:07.280 whether you wanted to or not. And then maybe some of you got sick or worse and it's awful.

00:25:12.380 and I feel bad for everybody that felt like they had to do it for their job. And I'm like,

00:25:16.560 forget your job. Don't worry. Screw your job. Don't do it. Don't do it. But I get it. Fear is

00:25:21.600 fear. But I feel like with what happened after and what we're hearing now about the vaccine,

00:25:26.820 that that is going to create a lot more warriors than the next time.

00:25:32.060 Well, it might and it might not. There's a term that's used with abandon, cognitive dissonance,

00:25:39.800 which people don't understand. They think it's the ability or the inability to hold

00:25:44.960 conflicting ideas in your mind. That's not what cognitive dissonance is. It's not the clash

00:25:50.320 between two mutually exclusive ideas. What it is, and it was discovered by social scientists

00:25:58.800 in the early 1960s in Chicago, they went and they embedded themselves in an apocalyptic cult

00:26:06.920 whose leaders told them the world was going to end. And these psychologists hypothesized that

00:26:13.340 when the world didn't end, people would not abandon the cult. They would renew, they would

00:26:19.640 reinforce their own loyalty because they couldn't face the fact that they'd been fooled. Cognitive

00:26:27.000 dissonance is the ego trying to rescue itself from the horrible revelation that it is puny,

00:26:36.920 And that it is easily tricked.

00:26:40.800 And in case of the vaccine, there are a lot of people who the last for whom the last thing they want to do is admit that that the government and industry mass psychology campaign convinced them to stick into their bloodstream and into the heart of their genetic material, not just their bloodstream.

00:27:04.240 the the the the you know heart of their cellular makeup an unknown substance with unknown effects

00:27:13.660 and and rather than and rather than admit to themselves that they were fools or that they 0.97

00:27:19.120 were dupes or that they were innocents or that they were exploited or that they're dying now 0.96

00:27:24.900 because of it they want to switch to something else you know let's get mad about capitalism

00:27:32.420 See, a lot of what I see right now in the revolutionary fervor in America to find, you know, to find bad guys, Epstein, etc., not that they weren't bad, is, I think, displaced anger and displaced conflict from people who were so willingly and easily duped. 0.99

00:27:56.420 And they have to have something to be mad about that isn't themselves for being so damn stupid and especially so careless with their children's lives. 0.99

00:28:06.960 Oh, man, I know. It's so true. Owen, did you want to jump in here? 1.00

00:28:10.560 well it it seems kind of obvious to me in one respect how this was all a psyop because like

00:28:18.280 if you remember the operation warp speed like under trump all the press started coming out

00:28:24.920 early on saying i'm not taking that vaccine that's not we can't trust that it's going too fast

00:28:29.520 and then the narrative completely flipped just to the completely other side saying this is safe and

00:28:35.760 effective it's the you know the best thing ever and there was no you know scientific basis for

00:28:40.900 any of that trump and biden that was but remember they withheld the actual vaccine until after trump

00:28:47.740 was out of office yeah because the rollout of the thing uh socially you know getting people actually

00:28:55.080 to sit down in walgreens and all the other places i mean in montana they vaccinated people in bars

00:29:01.300 You know, imagine getting vaccinated in a little bar casino on the side roads of Montana.

00:29:08.340 Well, I can tell you that's where it happened a lot of the time.

00:29:12.960 They knew that Trump couldn't be trusted to actually execute on this weird program.

00:29:21.920 He wanted the credit, apparently, and his own ego was big enough that he wanted the credit for its development.

00:29:28.640 But there was no way they were going to trust him without actually getting it into people's bodies.

00:29:34.200 And for that, they saved the automaton, the nearly malfunctioning robot, Joe Biden.

00:29:43.760 Yeah, amazing.

00:29:45.040 Well, you know what?

00:29:45.560 This might be like a good segue right now.

00:29:47.820 So I like how we didn't just like totally stay on like the whole MKUltra experiment specifically.

00:29:55.120 MKUltra is short.

00:29:57.140 Or did we? 0.97

00:29:57.740 The scary thing about MKUltra is the K, okay? Why do they always put Ks in for Cs? You know,

00:30:06.960 I thought the Klu Klux Klan did that. I didn't know that CIA did it, but MK stands for mind 0.98

00:30:12.400 control. And we've been talking about mind control this whole time. And the reason that

00:30:18.080 the subject is fertile is because we are all touched by the findings of this program as

00:30:24.720 individuals and as a country, as a mass. Yes. And I, I have to admit, I did not

00:30:31.200 watch this clip because I saw the captions and the headlines and I just was like, I was having

00:30:38.420 a rough weekend and I'm like, I'm not watching it. I'm not watching, watching this man sitting

00:30:44.560 at George Washington's desk to just shove it up your ass. I'm sitting at Washington's desk, 1.00

00:30:50.860 everybody and here's what i'm gonna say to you but i don't even know how long it was but i have

00:30:55.560 a clip it's a little bit over a minute and now i'm gonna hear it but here we go nearly a decade

00:31:01.740 ago i too felt what you feel the joy of no longer being just a new yorker but an american too

00:31:07.900 you each hold a special power the power to determine what america means the powerful have

00:31:15.320 always known their answer. America, in their view, is an arena of supremacy, where only a select few

00:31:21.180 are allowed freedom, where not all are created equal. America, if you ask them, becomes less

00:31:26.960 the more people it welcomes. America, they will tell you, belongs only to those with the right 0.88

00:31:32.000 accent or the right shade of skin. The rest of us, they insist, should be grateful for merely

00:31:36.380 being allowed to visit. How small they are, how weak, how unoriginal. At every moment in our past,

00:31:44.660 those who led through exclusion and isolation have tried to win power and enrich themselves

00:31:49.960 by turning us against one another division is the oldest trick in politics and the cheapest

00:31:55.840 but time and again including 250 years ago those those forces of division have been vanquished

00:32:03.560 by the forces of progress nearly a decade ago

00:32:06.420 happy 250th everybody can can i go off i mean i don't get to go on this show very often and this

00:32:14.720 is one of the most intelligent and curious audiences in existence uh my my my it's my

00:32:21.280 privilege to address them today this was mk ultra in practice and let me just analyze the clip we

00:32:29.040 saw uh which i haven't seen i i mean i saw the whole speech but i haven't seen this clip isolated

00:32:34.620 It started with a hypnotic technique. I too felt what you feel. So he's going to tell us what we

00:32:43.880 feel. He has made himself a surrogate for us, a replacement, a sort of projection of us. He said

00:32:52.980 he feels what we feel. And then he goes on to tell us what he feels, which we logically,

00:32:58.840 supposedly feel too. And one of those things is that America has always, always, whenever you

00:33:07.080 hear the word always, be sure that you're being deceived because there's not one thing in the

00:33:12.740 world that happens always. And he says that America always felt that it was less the more

00:33:21.660 people it received. Well, then why are you here, sir? I mean, if America discouraged immigration

00:33:29.960 and felt that it was less every time a new immigrant came, then how did you get in? Under

00:33:34.840 some special program? Under some special forgiveness? Did you sneak in? No, America

00:33:40.240 obviously felt it was enriched by immigration, which is why we have a damn Statue of Liberty 0.99

00:33:46.120 and so on. But he takes our very strengths and he uses them as evidence of wrongdoing. 0.92

00:33:54.380 He uses his very existence as some sort of example of what? I mean, it's America's tolerance

00:34:02.240 and patience and frankly, welcome of immigrants that's responsible for him being there.

00:34:08.500 But as again, I say, he's trying to lead us, you know, as Scott would say, lead us and pace us,

00:34:14.840 move us down a track of beliefs without logic and without actual explanation by by by getting into

00:34:23.780 our hands and and then one of the next things he says is is um uh and i don't know if it's in this

00:34:30.620 clip but in the speech he says america has americans the exclusive americans who i guess

00:34:37.320 have always been there been here and aren't immigrants themselves i mean uh wait he's

00:34:43.420 addressing immigrants. He's addressing the children of immigrants and the grandchildren,

00:34:47.860 the great-grandchildren like me. But he's saying that we, Walter Kern, the people who want to put

00:34:55.780 up the barriers, the people who want to block immigration or toss people out, I've always said,

00:35:03.140 love it or leave it. America, love it or leave it. If you don't like it, get out. Well, that's

00:35:09.360 that's a phrase from the 60s. I haven't heard it for a long time. It was what supposedly right

00:35:16.300 wingers and Merle Haggard fans and Okies from Muskogee said to communists. It had nothing to

00:35:25.840 do actually with immigration. Love it or leave it was supposedly what right wingers said to left

00:35:33.400 back in the 60s and 70s. So what he's subtly trying to do is identify his belief system,

00:35:40.960 the democratic socialist, you know, socialist belief system with true Americanism and saying

00:35:49.720 they've always been discriminated against. And he's somehow trying to appropriate the experience

00:35:54.900 of immigrants for use politically as cover for a belief system as though all all immigrants

00:36:05.620 believe what he did or naturally would if they weren't oppressed but in fact we all know that

00:36:11.300 could be different because if you have an immigrant history in your family like i do

00:36:14.660 on my mother's side of poor hungarian immigrants who came to the lower east side of the united

00:36:19.620 states they were the most patriotic the most love it or leave it the most anti-communist

00:36:27.380 later i mean they came before they came before communism was really an issue in the united states 0.78

00:36:35.540 the fact is they got a problem which is that immigrants once they get a foothold in america

00:36:42.100 tend to be the most conservative people there are they they usually start small businesses and 0.98

00:36:47.380 that is their foothold in america nothing makes you more of a conservative like having a tiny

00:36:52.820 restaurant which you want to shield from the you know inspectors and the and the mob that

00:36:58.900 wants to break your window and and so on so uh he's full of contradictions he has no logic his

00:37:06.500 very presence undermines the content of his words he wants us to identify with him and he expects

00:37:14.020 that we will well isn't the fact that he can address us this way testimony to the fact that

00:37:19.380 what he's saying isn't true uh that we will that we will elect him and that we will tolerate him

00:37:25.380 that we will put his message on national media is proof that what he's just said isn't the case or

00:37:32.980 else guards would have come into the room and taken him away yes so true all right owen go ahead

00:37:40.740 well i think it to me it is just a ridiculous thing to do on the 20th 250th and um you know

00:37:50.900 it was probably made even more hilarious that he was sitting on the wrong side of the desk

00:37:54.820 well whether he was sitting on the wrong side of the desk or not doesn't matter

00:37:58.420 it was george washington's desk george washington who's practically the joker in in in in the

00:38:06.100 mumdani universe i mean he's the arch villain what's he doing sitting at his desk could he

00:38:11.380 have been beating it with a hammer uh sitting at some other desk except that's like somebody

00:38:18.820 denouncing fascism while sitting at hitler's desk well he really seems like he's sort of almost cast

00:38:24.900 in this role to be this smooth talker to usher in the wave of communism he's an actor he's a

00:38:31.860 a would-be rapper he's been you know uh how can i put it identified groomed trained and advised

00:38:41.660 and continues to be to play the role of new york mayor at this time uh he shows if you watch the

00:38:49.820 whole uh speech such historical literacy that it's really laughable for anybody who you know

00:38:57.620 went through 10th grade in America.

00:39:00.660 He acts like the Statue of Liberty has been there forever.

00:39:03.380 It hasn't. 0.97

00:39:04.120 He acts like every wave of immigration was beaten back

00:39:09.640 or somehow opposed in a large way.

00:39:13.080 Now, we had anti-immigrant parties in the United States.

00:39:16.680 The Ku Klux Klan was, to some degree, not just an anti-black movement,

00:39:23.040 but an anti-immigrant movement. 0.81

00:39:24.520 Um, none of what he says is absolutely untrue in the sense that there are grains of truth,

00:39:34.140 but the way he puts it together is contradictory, nonsensical, self, self-subverting, and finally

00:39:42.700 just an experiment in what can I get people to believe.

00:39:48.060 Doesn't he remind you of Obama?

00:39:50.740 Well, you know, he's another version. So I went to Washington for the RFK confirmation hearings

00:40:00.960 the first time. And I had the privilege of sitting just feet away from RFK as he was grilled by this

00:40:06.400 horseshoe of senators. And I was so close to the senators that I saw them in a way that you don't

00:40:12.480 see them on TV. I saw when they came in. I saw when they talked to their aides. I saw what they

00:40:17.440 did when they knew they weren't on camera and so on. And I can tell you that it will never leave me

00:40:24.100 because what I saw were actors preparing for their roles, being given their lines,

00:40:29.820 often not delivering them very well. I saw them every time they were called out or

00:40:37.200 contradicted or, you know, sort of exposed, go into a kind of blank,

00:40:43.200 you know broken stare like liars or actors who are exposed always do and this is just another

00:40:52.300 version mamdani of the obama program basically the democrats particularly have cast a boy band

00:41:03.000 and we all know that boy bands are artificial they're you know they they're the response to

00:41:08.540 open casting calls, and they go, okay, we'll need a cute one who looks innocent, kind of a Paul

00:41:14.140 McCartney style. We'll need a dark brooding one who never speaks and is sexy. We'll need this one 0.95

00:41:20.680 and that one. And essentially, the Democratic Party is a giant boy band. But it's got girls in

00:41:28.240 it too, of course. And it's cast racially and in terms of gender, but mostly it's cast in terms of

00:41:34.720 affect or comportment or behavior. And now we have Mamdani. He's not like Obama, a swooping

00:41:45.140 gospel-style orator. He is a, to me, he's like a little jackhammer. His speech and manner are

00:41:56.940 very monotonous, very picky, a little bit robotic, I found, especially in that one. See, the big

00:42:03.740 problem the big problem for his producers in that video was that it wasn't very good it made him

00:42:08.620 look small it made him look surrounded and controlled and he sat at a desk that for various

00:42:16.860 reasons of size and age made him look out of place yes look like it belonged but he looked didn't

00:42:24.700 look like he belonged at it and and i think it was a huge misstep in the in the movie making

00:42:31.020 uh that is our current version of politics that's a great observations you're so right it it didn't

00:42:38.220 land for sure no it didn't land and they tried to combine too many elements at once you know

00:42:45.020 they wanted he should have been alone at the desk the woman standing next to him with the little

00:42:49.980 you know flag that looks like it belongs in a birthday cake or maybe stuck into the handlebars 1.00

00:42:55.100 of a children's bike she just ruined everything whatever gravity or you know uh kind of seriousness

00:43:02.860 he was trying to project was just ridiculed at every moment visually by the presence and they

00:43:09.580 all had that face that sour face yeah terrible because they stood in for us they were supposed

00:43:16.460 to represent america just as madonna mom donnie was supposedly channeling our thoughts i feel what

00:43:23.340 you feel those people were supposed to be the kind of quilt or the melting pot of america and

00:43:30.620 represent all of the different groups and so on um but the flag was held in the limpest fashion

00:43:38.860 possible i i i couldn't tell if she was proud of holding it i know she was from from the content

00:43:45.500 of the thing or if she thought it was radioactive and had germs on it and and and she wanted to

00:43:51.260 to keep it in there to sort of screw up our minds, but really otherwise wouldn't touch the thing.

00:43:59.240 Like Damien going into church, I tell you. They're holding that flag like, ah.

00:44:04.900 Go ahead, Owen, you were going to say something. 0.90

00:44:06.820 As ridiculous as all of this is, and I do think a lot of it's very radical, very extreme, and 0.62

00:44:12.520 not very persuasive, it still seems like they're having a lot of success. They're still at least 0.91

00:44:17.720 winning a bunch of primaries, and we already have some people that I would say are already

00:44:21.580 enemies of America in Congress, like the squad and all that. How do we counteract this? How do

00:44:27.760 we resist it? How do we get people to not fall prey to it? By not being lazy. By not being lazy.

00:44:35.280 By getting up and doing the very simple things that most people just don't do at this point in

00:44:41.400 America. The reason that the DSA or the radical left or what Trump calls the communists are able

00:44:48.140 to prevail in these elections is that most people don't vote and they especially don't vote in

00:44:53.700 primaries. And these are democratic primaries, remember. So these candidates can kind of walk

00:45:02.680 through if they have a certain level of organization funding and fervor behind them. And so

00:45:09.320 So they depend on a very lazy, very non-participatory mindset in their own party to get these people on the ballot.

00:45:19.240 Now they're on the ballot. What about getting them actually elected?

00:45:23.260 Well, they're elected in Democratic strongholds, mostly.

00:45:27.680 And, you know, who elect a Democrat, no matter who they are.

00:45:32.140 And so it all goes tick tock and it's a machine.

00:45:36.320 I mean, that's still a big problem.

00:45:37.880 I mean, that's probably a third of the country at least.

00:45:40.320 Well, yes.

00:45:41.480 The question is how do you oppose it or how do you counter it? 1.00

00:45:44.440 And you counter it by getting off your lazy ass 0.99

00:45:47.260 because the whole thing depends on people who are being motivated by money 0.99

00:45:51.380 and ideological fervor and, frankly, grudges.

00:45:55.580 You know, because most of the motivational content of these speeches

00:46:01.740 isn't based around inspiration.

00:46:04.200 it's based around making you angry dissatisfied and wanting revenge um and uh so i would say

00:46:14.400 that in some ways the way to counter them is to get even angrier yourself and do what though get 0.61

00:46:20.320 off our lazy ass and do what like vote for one thing well yeah uh observe those uh vote counters 0.96

00:46:28.260 and those places which actually still allow it 0.99

00:46:31.000 and don't hamper the observation process,

00:46:34.320 to play the game especially of mail-in voting

00:46:37.360 and ballot harvesting, which is apparently how it works now.

00:46:40.460 Well, if you think yourself too good for that,

00:46:44.540 you're handing it to them.

00:46:47.700 I'm afraid that those who wish to prevail in this fight

00:46:55.020 are going to have to lower their standards for their own behavior. I hate to say it,

00:47:01.320 but I can be Walter Kern, Oxford graduate in a Vegas street fight with knives, but unless I take

00:47:08.500 out a knife, I'll probably lose. Quoting John Locke or Paradise Lost or Shakespeare won't

00:47:16.140 probably do it. I'll have to get down into the dirt. And the dirt is where this damn thing is

00:47:22.460 fought and so be it uh if you're too good for it well you're going to be its victim i always try to 0.99

00:47:28.700 encourage everybody that you know we had gad sat on and the suicidal empathy book is great and it's

00:47:35.260 and that's what i said gets us here is we don't want to be called a name you know we were told

00:47:40.460 not to call it out when we see it and i'm like please you know it's like it's a matter of life

00:47:45.580 for death for this country. And who cares what they call you? I disagree at this point.

00:47:53.900 You do? I think that people's fear of being called a name. If you've been on Twitter for

00:47:59.200 five seconds and stayed on Twitter, you no longer fear of being called a name. You get called names

00:48:04.700 there constantly. If you went through COVID and you went upstream against any of the commands,

00:48:10.480 you got treated rather poorly. I think that, you know, that's a big excuse for the fact that you

00:48:18.440 don't want to have to go out of your way. And you can say, oh, I'm afraid of what my kids will say

00:48:26.620 at Thanksgiving, or I'm afraid of being pointed at on the street or called a name. But really,

00:48:31.800 if you're that much of a jellyfish, you probably even wouldn't be alive at this point. You know,

00:48:37.960 We live in a competitive society. 0.99

00:48:39.400 What is really what you really don't want to do is get up off your ass, which I'm saying only because it's with coaches and my dad and people like that who scourged me with that. 0.99

00:48:53.640 And I think they were right. 0.98

00:48:55.300 The biggest the biggest asset that people like Mondani has have are the laziness of other people.

00:49:04.160 And one way to cover our laziness is to say, yeah, it doesn't matter what we do or we'll be treated badly or we'll lose our jobs.

00:49:11.720 We'll have a little courage and find out what happens.

00:49:15.260 Yes, I fully agree that that's that's a better way of putting it.

00:49:19.520 You guys, you think I get spicy, but that's the way to say it.

00:49:22.440 Like, stop being lazy and don't be a you know what and just get up and do the thing and make other people uncomfortable.

00:49:29.720 You know, we're watching the World Cup right now, a lot of us, whether we are soccer fans or not.

00:49:35.480 Because if you go to a restaurant, it's up on the TV, especially here in Vegas, where they, you know, the betting capital of the world.

00:49:42.400 And imagine one side, one of the two soccer teams deciding that it was giving up because it didn't want to be screamed at by the fans of the other side.

00:49:53.760 Right.

00:49:54.280 Well, you lose.

00:49:55.440 You know, imagine one side deciding that the rules of soccer are unfair and just sitting down or refusing to come out on the field or not kick.

00:50:05.480 Well, you lose.

00:50:07.660 In the end, one of Donald Trump's crude, vulgar, but I think very true behavioral lessons is you fight back, you fight back, you fight back.

00:50:23.380 you don't look good. You maybe don't sound good. You maybe use coarse language, but mostly you

00:50:28.780 fight. And, you know, America almost lost a civil war. I mean, the federal government of the United

00:50:35.060 States, the North, nearly lost a civil war because it really wasn't willing to go dirty.

00:50:42.340 When it did, it won. When Sherman and Grant and the other generals who kind of didn't give a damn

00:50:49.600 and were victory at all costs type got in the seat, it won.

00:50:54.180 Until then, it had great difficulty.

00:50:57.680 So we need to be willing to do MKUltra on people?

00:51:00.560 No, we need to be willing to be the person who during an MKUltra experiment says,

00:51:06.580 hey, I don't like what you're doing.

00:51:07.600 I'm pulling off these headphones.

00:51:09.340 I'm throwing up the pill you just gave me.

00:51:12.200 I'm standing up from the desk.

00:51:14.220 I'm not listening to the rules you're giving me.

00:51:16.800 I'm not playing the game.

00:51:18.140 Wait, I'm being experimented on? Well, I'm kicking over the table. You know, there's a little girl in all of us who I think is underappreciated, who when she's losing the Monopoly game, you know, sort of gets up and says, I'm not playing anymore. Well, it is very legitimate to say, I'm not playing. You're going to play my game now.

00:51:43.480 yeah i love that i love that walter i'm always saying you know don't be afraid you guys and and

00:51:50.820 also don't feel like you have to go up to the most radical person you're not changing that person's

00:51:55.900 mind you're not changing the mind of the professional protester but there are so many

00:51:59.900 moderate people that they too uh you know don't want like a confrontation but if you can like

00:52:07.440 talk to people and just say listen you know what do you want your country to be taken over is that

00:52:11.780 you want for your grandkids you know look around don't you see the changes and what's happening

00:52:17.060 you know you don't have to you don't have to be like a walter kern or scott adams to have a

00:52:22.740 discussion with somebody discuss things with people that you know and just let them know how

00:52:28.500 you feel and i think also like we talked about this like for i was saying back with covid

00:52:33.540 if maybe if we had said to people more like listen i'm not getting the vaccine i don't trust it blah

00:52:38.580 blah, blah, blah. Maybe some other neighbors would have been like, you know what? That's a

00:52:41.700 good point. And when people start to see other people having a conversation, more people will

00:52:47.420 come to it. But if you only see these lunatics screaming at you and calling names, you're like,

00:52:51.880 I'm not going to get involved in this. I don't want to have this drama, but have the drama. 0.90

00:52:56.540 Just have it enough. I like it when lunatics scream at me. 0.97

00:52:59.720 I mean, a lot of people don't, but a lot of people are afraid of that. I don't care either. 0.58

00:53:03.400 listen, Italian, New Jersey, I'm all for it. But some people, you know, they don't like the

00:53:08.080 conflict and they don't want to deal with it. But you know what? Other people will hear what

00:53:11.580 you're saying that aren't lunatics and maybe be like, you know what? I feel the same way too.

00:53:16.340 I'm so glad you said something. I've been feeling this way. And now you've like created an atmosphere

00:53:21.680 for more people to come out of the closet and say, I do want to fight for my country. And I

00:53:26.720 do see it slipping away, but they won't know that you feel that way if you don't say something.

00:53:30.420 the key to what you should do in any um in any conflict usually lies in doing what your enemy

00:53:40.500 is doing successfully and doing it more okay um it doesn't lie in being too big for the conflict

00:53:48.280 but also all you have to remember when you watch a mom donnie or somebody like that is that they're

00:53:56.320 lying because your own experience tells you that America is a very different place than he's

00:54:02.160 describing. I go to a gym in Las Vegas here. You know, I'm looked up at sometimes as, you know,

00:54:08.860 the quintessential straight white male, the guy who doesn't know anything. And probably I have

00:54:13.800 money because I went to an Ivy League college and so on. Well, I go to a gym in Las Vegas

00:54:18.540 that is the biggest melting pot I ever have witnessed on the American shores. Las Vegas

00:54:23.960 This is an immigrant community. 1.00

00:54:25.300 People come here because you don't need an education to park cars or clean rooms or so 1.00

00:54:30.480 on and get a foothold in the American economy.

00:54:32.880 And at this gym, I see every race, every race.

00:54:37.160 Frankly, I see every gender, genders I didn't even know existed, sitting in the big weight

00:54:42.280 room, helping each other lift weights, you know, in dangerous situations in which you

00:54:47.380 might drop something on yourself. 0.99

00:54:48.880 somebody of another race or with fake boobs who may not be a female comes running up to grab your 0.99

00:54:55.820 bar america you are being lied to about your own nature your own personality and your own 0.99

00:55:03.400 environment and when you find out liars all you have to do is tell them that they're lying

00:55:08.580 yeah you don't have to prove them wrong you know what's right you know what's true you know what

00:55:14.000 you've seen, stand by it. You don't have to explain it. And you don't have to engage in

00:55:19.000 their rhetorical arguments. If I know who I am and I know what I've seen, it is not my job to

00:55:26.620 convince others. It's my job to act on it and to call out those who are lying about it. And I don't

00:55:33.580 have to win every argument. I simply have to be unpersuadable, to be strong.

00:55:41.940 Yeah. Stand in your conviction. Stand in what you know, you guys. It's okay. And just try it.

00:55:48.280 For those of you that are so worried about it, just try it and you're going to survive it.

00:55:52.080 And you're going to be like, oh my God, I did something like Scott would say, be useful. I did

00:55:55.820 that thing to be useful for the good of my country. And it's just those little steps. And if we all

00:56:01.700 do it together, it's so important. We're at such a wacky point where-

00:56:06.960 so much more fun it is fun aren't the best games come from behind games aren't the best causes

00:56:14.460 lost causes isn't every movie about somebody coming from behind or underneath on the from

00:56:21.640 the outside well don't you want to be part of the drama and fun that is american democracy well it

00:56:27.720 involves a little conflict and it involves a little bit of colorful behavior and language but

00:56:33.360 hey your heart's still beating let it beat a little harder that's right all right marcella

00:56:39.960 do you want to chime in here so for him to give the speech itself means america and immigrants

00:56:49.840 have triumph you know because he himself mandami is an immigrant that's one thing is like he doesn't

00:56:56.300 recognize that he doesn't recognize well he uses it when he wants to and then he uses it when he 0.58

00:57:02.640 wants to and then he sort of drops the veil of amnesia over it oh he doesn't cannot be successful

00:57:09.300 you know but one thing I do have to point out is that he his speech wasn't meant for us his speech

00:57:15.620 was meant for his people and it works with them the resentment that they feel uh against the other

00:57:24.000 and the successful and the lazy they they want to have in the week you know so it works for them and

00:57:32.240 like you said, don't be lazy, because that's one of the things that communism has is that

00:57:37.640 other people will work for you while you get their riches. Literally in Cuba, they would move into

00:57:44.460 mansions of other people, you know, because you couldn't earn it, but then they couldn't keep them 0.99

00:57:49.960 up, you know. So it's this idea, these lies that he sells. So I think he made it the way that he

00:57:58.540 made it was in fact what he wanted. He wanted to look small because he wanted to look weak because

00:58:05.120 that sells for them. The fact that he sat behind the desk of George Washington, I think that was

00:58:12.840 on purpose. It was a giant fail, Marcella. It's a giant fail for us, but not for them.

00:58:20.960 well i'm not so sure and i'll tell you why okay i think that you know if it's if the point of that

00:58:28.920 speech was to arouse rage and you know stimulate uh activism and so on i don't think it worked

00:58:37.360 because i've seen speeches of demagogues that whip people into a fury he looked more like

00:58:45.700 the submissive recipient of energy than a giver of energy.

00:58:53.220 I felt that that was a big drain hole in which revolutionary fervor

00:58:57.740 just went from the air down a hole and out of the system.

00:59:04.060 The true believers will believe anything.

00:59:06.540 He could have sat there and recited Dr. Seuss and they would have, you know.

00:59:10.640 He would have believed him.

00:59:11.400 But, but, but, but, but, but he didn't, he didn't increase anything with that.

00:59:16.360 I think he decreased something even for his own side.

00:59:19.300 Did you notice everybody sitting near him?

00:59:22.120 You don't have the shot of all of them. 0.99

00:59:23.960 They're all ugly. 0.97

00:59:25.280 I'm sorry. 1.00

00:59:26.160 They're all ugly, fat, and different types of, I'm sorry. 1.00

00:59:31.720 Yeah, I did notice. 0.99

00:59:33.620 You can, you can be one of us, you know, because when you look at a picture of President Trump and his family and they look shiny and.

00:59:40.980 wonderfully dressed you know sometimes I'm like oh can I ever look like that you know and so he

00:59:48.180 he that's why I think he he it was the decisions to have those people next to him and have that

00:59:56.280 desk was well he's the best looking of all of them isn't that strange he's somebody who obviously

01:00:02.460 spends a lot of time at the mirror his wife too is very good looking and and they're both they

01:00:07.840 They both care about their dress, their grooming, their his mustache and, you know, his his smile and his dimples.

01:00:15.840 You're like, oh, yeah, he wanted a situation in which in which he could pop, you know, in which he looked even better compared to the others.

01:00:24.080 But strangely, I think he blended into them rather than them.

01:00:28.480 I agree. A frame is the only one sitting, too.

01:00:31.820 Yeah. So the other move sitting there.

01:00:34.840 You can stand and hold their flags, that oppressor.

01:00:38.600 Yep.

01:00:39.480 The other point I want to make while you were talking, you're just amazing the way that you talk, the way that you make someone think while you're talking.

01:00:50.380 One of the things that I realized, I didn't realize it before, is you're right.

01:00:55.580 Biden had to come because Trump could not lead this project of what COVID was supposed to be.

01:01:02.920 And one of the things is, like, I'm thinking back to MKUltra and how you can control someone's mind so easily.

01:01:09.080 You need somebody that is very susceptible to control in their mind.

01:01:13.360 And I was like, ooh.

01:01:15.580 Because Joe Biden was a very different person before he took office.

01:01:19.220 And then once he took office, I don't know.

01:01:23.780 Well, he was a very different person maybe back in the 80s.

01:01:26.960 But, you know, anybody who followed Joe Biden closely knew that he was burnt toast by, you know, by the time 2015 rolled around, just about.

01:01:41.460 Oh, yeah. All right.

01:01:43.240 Kamala was also very different, I would have to say, from California.

01:01:47.140 Say her name three times or she'll appear. Don't do it.

01:01:51.900 I'm like, all right. So we went a little bit over, Walter. I'm sorry. It's 1102.

01:01:56.960 um but i can't believe how fast an hour goes when walter's here it's amazing you give us so much to

01:02:03.280 think about you've you're you remind everybody of scott you know like the way you're just you just

01:02:08.380 are a philosopher you're a thinker you're very thoughtful and um and you're very kind thank you

01:02:16.440 well no you paint you paint great pictures for us and you give us encouragement to not be lazy

01:02:22.340 you know to fight for this country you guys it's our country and we want to we want to fight fight

01:02:27.660 not just for the country fight for reality yeah fight for reality you may or may not feel great

01:02:35.080 about the united states all the time you may have your own problems with certain policies or wars or

01:02:42.100 other aspects of governance but fight for the reality fight for the people at the gym who do

01:02:49.000 take care of each other who don't say love it or leave it who aren't taking each other out and so

01:02:54.600 on and they're helping each other lift the weights fight for your everyday reality and i like the

01:03:00.280 idea too walter in closing of just letting people know that they're lying you're lying about what

01:03:06.200 you're saying the country is i love that because it's a it's a strong word and it's something that

01:03:11.400 we as normal people wouldn't normally say to somebody you're lying but then again you know 0.69

01:03:17.080 know, you're called a Nazi, a sexist, a racist, a this, a that. So I think I can be like, well,

01:03:20.800 you're a liar. So. Well, Donnie started his thing by saying he felt what I feel. Yeah. And that's 0.99

01:03:27.060 a lie. I don't feel anything like you do. And I don't have to prove it. I merely have to assert

01:03:32.700 it because I am the one who understands my own experience, not you. That's amazing. Okay. So

01:03:38.600 you guys, are you so excited? We have Walter today and he will hopefully always come back

01:03:44.460 again and again it's such a good time when you're here walter thank you so so much um we always say

01:03:49.760 thank you to scott and shelly for allowing this show to go on and thank you to every single person

01:03:54.780 here that shows up and participates and listens and your feedback is amazing and you guys i will

01:04:01.000 stay after with you guys for a minute and we'll let our guest professor go and you and marcel and

01:04:07.640 owen if you have to go go and i will play a song from akira the dawn one of our scott songs and so

01:04:13.700 let's go out there, you guys. Let's be useful. Let's do, let's remember this show every day

01:04:18.800 when you're out there making decisions and talking to people. Okay. In other words,

01:04:22.580 be useful and let's have a closing sip to Scott, you guys, to Scott. To Scott. Cheers.

01:04:32.460 Thank you, Walter. Thank you so much, you guys, Owen and Marcella.

01:04:36.580 Okay. So Walter, I'll kick you out for you. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks.

01:04:41.900 oh i cut him off i cut off walter okay owen are you gonna stay you going i'm going okay later

01:04:49.100 everybody thanks oh okay you guys let's see we are oh you know what let's do the payoff i feel

01:04:55.860 like the payoff is something amazing and thank you guys for being here today we love when walter's on

01:05:01.040 so good okay let's try the payoff i feel like i pick the song that we need to hear what if

01:05:08.280 Laziness is a habit of thinking about the cost of things or the effort

01:05:13.040 instead of thinking about the payoff.

01:05:17.820 The payoff.

01:05:19.180 That's what Walter said.

01:05:22.180 I'm going to say it again.

01:05:24.120 The payoff. 0.98

01:05:27.620 Get a few more heads to explode.

01:05:29.820 What if you could reverse laziness by simply developing a habit of thinking more about,

01:05:35.160 let's say the delicious food that you'd like to enjoy instead of how long it would take you to get

01:05:39.880 up and go get it but the real question is if you were to test this out and try to see if you can

01:05:47.640 think more about the good outcome and less about the work would you get it done what if laziness

01:05:56.040 is a habit of thinking about the cost of things or the effort instead of thinking about the payoff

01:06:05.160 the pale. I'm going to say it again. The pale. Get a few more heads to explode. Why is it that people

01:06:17.740 have a second child? Why does a woman who goes through this awful, awful childbirth have a 1.00

01:06:25.380 second child? Don't they always say the same thing? If I remembered how bad this was, I wouldn't do it 1.00

01:06:30.780 together. Right? So the not thinking about the effort is vital to actually the survival of

01:06:39.480 humanity. If we focused on how hard it was to have a baby, you just wouldn't do it. You'd do

01:06:44.360 too little of it. But if you focus on how awesome it would be to have a family, well, there you go.

01:06:52.520 You're going to go through the pain because you've already committed. You're going to go

01:06:59.000 through the pain because you've already, you've already committed. What if laziness is a habit

01:07:07.020 of thinking about the cost of things or the effort instead of thinking about the payoff?

01:07:15.040 The payoff. I'm going to say it again. The payoff.

01:07:21.720 Am I ambitious or do I simply have a thinking habit which produces dopamine because I'm

01:07:32.540 thinking about the positive outcome and is the dopamine the thing that gets me up and

01:07:36.240 moving and when you're observing me you say how the hell do you get so much done and how

01:07:41.700 do I do it I think it's just this I think it's just this when I think of all the things I do

01:07:47.580 Do I think about them in terms of their benefits?

01:07:50.620 What if laziness is a habit of thinking about the cost of things or the effort

01:07:56.940 instead of thinking about the pale?

01:08:01.860 The pale.

01:08:06.160 I'm going to say it again.

01:08:08.020 The pale.

01:08:11.620 Get a few more heads to explore.

01:08:13.300 The pale.

01:08:17.580 so here's your tip it's going to change some of your lives

01:08:28.180 think about the positive not about the work and see what that does to you

01:08:35.640 the perfect song always gets picked right i mean there is no non-perfect song when it

01:08:47.100 comes to Akira and Scott. All right. I love that, you guys. I feel energized and motivated. And I

01:08:53.680 feel like you guys are too. So that is amazing. So we are going to get out there this week. And

01:09:00.340 it's like, I felt like after the 4th of July, we've got to really kick in now. We have midterms

01:09:06.200 coming up. We have a country to save. And I feel like we, like Walter said, we are the smartest

01:09:12.360 group. We understand things and we're willing to do things. So I love that. Scott is definitely

01:09:18.920 smiling down on all of us for sure, you guys. All right. So we'll be back tomorrow. Oh,

01:09:25.280 you guys, I have a new guest professor coming on on Friday, someone I really have always liked.

01:09:32.800 When should I tell you? I'll tell you Wednesday. So we're going to have a new guest professor on

01:09:36.740 for Friday. He's going to be the perfect ending to a week. And a ton of you know who he is. And

01:09:43.000 if you don't know him yet, you're going to love him. So remind me, remind me on Wednesday to tell

01:09:47.160 you who's coming on on Friday. Okay. All right, you guys. So love you so much. I see all your

01:09:53.380 comments. I always rewatch the show and I go through all the comments to make sure that like

01:09:58.560 everyone's good and happy. And, um, that's it. Yes. I gave you a tease. Can I get Matt Taibbi?

01:10:06.640 I don't know. It's not Matt Taibbi that I can tell you, but who knows who we can get you guys.

01:10:12.620 We can do anything, right? All right. So I will see you guys tomorrow. Hope everyone's doing

01:10:18.760 great. Have a great rest of your day. You guys love you so much. Bye.

01:10:28.560 Thank you.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - July 06, 2026

The Scott Adams School - 07⧸06⧸26 WALTER KIRN Joins. MK ULTRA and More

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