Real Coffee with Scott Adams - The Scott Adams School - 07⧸09⧸26 The Home Team & Jeff Callahan ruminate

00:00:00.000 morning america and world good morning beverly good morning gregory hello everyone filing in

00:00:07.280 look our pal jeff is here i'm here i'm back you couldn't keep me away never we couldn't live

00:00:14.100 without you we needed you okay let me get you going over here are we having fun yet mary k

00:00:21.820 i think we are we were just backstage having fun i shared with uh jeff and with oh almost lost

00:00:29.920 my phone with Jeff and with Owen that I had a dream last night that Michael Malice was waxing

00:00:36.680 my legs. And that's all I'm going to say about that. It was, it was interesting for sure. And

00:00:42.360 he gave me a shoulder ride to take me somewhere else where there was a better wax pot. No one

00:00:47.700 panic. Marcella's coming. Marcella's coming. Easy, easy. Oh, here she comes. All right, guys,

00:00:54.040 are you ready for the sippity doodah? I am ready. Okay. Let's get Marcella in here and then we're

00:01:05.320 going to sip and we have quite a show. Let's add Marcella. There she is. Here she comes. 1.00

00:01:13.880 Ta-da. All right. Rumble's like, oh my gosh. Yep. Rumble's upset because I'm doing things. 0.95

00:01:21.720 it's not ready lemon minty you like that story marcella had a dream that michael malice was

00:01:26.520 waxing my legs last night oh my we're a little frozen rumbles thinking that's excellent i had

00:01:36.520 the same dream so did owen and jeff i thought i was the only one all right guys okay we're waxing

00:01:45.320 yeah no we all did everybody was waxing my legs all right it was amazing okay rumble has just

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00:02:43.880 mug that was a real one excellent i needed that sip so good morning it is july 9th 2026 you're

00:02:52.540 the scott adams school and our pal jeff callahan is returned to join us today and owen and marcella

00:03:01.500 of course are with us so happy to see us all together um you guys so i have a bunch of clips

00:03:08.860 today and you know when you're a host on this show what you can expect from me is you have no

00:03:15.900 clue what's going to happen i just start firing clips off at them and they're like oh my god what

00:03:20.300 are we talking about so that's kind of how today is going to be um but the first clip i wanted to

00:03:25.820 show you guys all right do you want an animal clip or do you just want a silly clip because i have

00:03:30.300 both marcella you pick um silly okay glad you picked this okay this is from maize more i don't

00:03:38.460 know if you guys follow maize more on x but please follow his account if someone can drop his username

00:03:44.380 in the chat he has great content and i just want to give him credit but he posted this this is

00:03:49.740 apparently a new torture method we've come up with um using um former president biden to just

00:03:58.140 torture people that we we have captured here we go i was a senior in high school and i wanted to

00:04:04.540 get a job being turned out the only turned out i was the only caucasian lifeguard in the projects

00:04:12.300 in the city of wilmington the big swimming pools i remember about to get out of the car and i looked

00:04:16.380 to my right and two well-dressed men in suits kissed each other I mean they give

00:04:21.900 each other a kiss we can talk we've created 12 million jobs I give my words

00:04:29.100 if I I mean seriously I've never broken my word remember what happened in

00:04:34.500 Charlottesville please don't do this most folks came out of the fields and

00:04:38.760 night with torches and swastikas President Trump said there are very fine

00:04:42.900 people on both sides i had lost my son beau um it was a tough tough time

00:04:53.300 man don't you don't you just miss old uncle joe wait i can't stand when he would be like i give

00:04:58.740 you my word as a biden like what the hell do i care about your last name like okay um that's

00:05:05.300 the random whispering oh yeah and there were very fine people he's such a whack i don't miss him

00:05:13.720 he needed to add the sniffing like the sniffing and the hair sniffing oh my god oh my gosh yeah

00:05:22.800 as a biden right you guys like what oh i give you my word as a biden like that doesn't mean

00:05:27.600 anything to me um anyway so that was amazing and if you wanted the animal clip you're getting it

00:05:33.220 right now so ha ha here we go i accidentally dropped my sunglasses in the orangutan enclosure

00:05:39.280 at a zoo in indonesia yeah she dropped her sunglasses in there and he's like oh yeah what

00:05:50.100 do we have here oh no don't eat it oh no he knows how to open it oh they're broken

00:05:56.920 Oh my god!

00:05:58.920 Oh my god!

00:06:00.920 Side down? Oh yeah, try to...

00:06:02.920 Look at...

00:06:04.920 Or her. 1.00

00:06:08.920 It's a her, I think. 0.84

00:06:10.920 Cause that's her little baby, right?

00:06:12.920 Yeah. 1.00

00:06:14.920 Look, she... Look at it!

00:06:16.920 I love it! They're so smart! 0.99

00:06:18.920 He's trying to figure out how to put it on.

00:06:20.920 Yeah. Oh, she got it.

00:06:22.920 They're working!

00:06:24.920 look you can have him back that is so amazing to me like he saw her drop them he tried them on

00:06:38.380 doesn't want them here lady a little trade for leaves there i love that

00:06:43.580 so cute um so that that thank you for indulging me i had to do that clip too you guys

00:06:49.740 All right, you guys. So I'm trying to. All right, here we go. Let me give you a flock update because some people were talking about the flock cameras now and I'm seeing more news about them and pay attention for the website. If you're a secret vigilante, there's a website they're going to mention. I'm not suggesting anything. I'm just saying pay attention and then we'll be right back.

00:07:12.960 The camera that once stood here is gone. All that's left is this pole. Across the street, another one taken down as well. A criminal justice expert tells me this could be a sign of the growing public unease with this type of video surveillance.

00:07:27.200 In two different parts of Houston, the same scene, surveillance cameras lying on the ground, two near Memorial Park, two more near Washington Avenue and Westcott, all part of Flock Safety's automated license plate reader network used by Houston police and other law enforcement agencies.

00:07:44.980 Houston police confirming an investigation into this.

00:07:48.060 While the motive is unknown, the technology itself has drawn criticism in the past from people concerned about the data they're collecting.

00:07:55.360 What level of frustration have we encountered Texas Southern University Professor Howard Henderson founding director of the Center for Justice Research says the backlash reflects broader concerns over privacy and who ultimately has access to the information these cameras collect. For many in society they they're looking at what the negative unintended consequences may be if this information gets leaked or someone uses it and finds itself in the wrong hands. A crowd sourced map from deflock.org shows thousands of

00:08:25.360 thousands of flock cameras across the greater Houston area. Because anyone can submit locations,

00:08:30.900 ABC 13 cannot independently verify the data shown, but we know that multiple law enforcement

00:08:35.800 agencies use the cameras. Houston expanded its use of the technology through a multi-million

00:08:41.300 dollar agreement with Flock in 2022. In that contract, HPD describes the camera as an

00:08:47.380 investigative tool, writing that, quote, all data from vehicles observed will be provided to HPD

00:08:53.080 for further assessment in detecting vehicles wanted in suspicious or post-event investigations

00:08:58.720 for law enforcement purposes. Just months ago, Harris County commissioners voted to renew its

00:09:03.980 contract through June 2027 at a cost of just under $869,000. The Harris County Sheriff's

00:09:11.920 Office previously credited the cameras with helping recover stolen vehicles and locating

00:09:16.380 two kidnapped children. But Henderson says there's growing public unease over surveillance

00:09:21.660 technology and artificial intelligence. Sensitivities are heightened and people are

00:09:25.600 very concerned about someone watching them and what they're doing with that information. And he

00:09:29.640 says when people feel they have no voice in those decisions, frustrations surface. And the

00:09:35.240 community is simply saying, since you won't listen to me, right, since you have given me no way to

00:09:42.440 voice my concern, we'll just take it down and tear it up. Tear it up, tear it up. Okay, Jeff,

00:09:51.180 i'm coming to you first have you heard about these flock cameras and do you love vigilante justice

00:09:57.020 like i do yeah so uh i i saw something i think it was oil filled rando on on x posted something to

00:10:05.820 the effect of like i'm i'm paraphrasing here but it was something like i'm of two minds i want

00:10:11.500 no flock cameras in high trust areas but but in high crime areas i want all the flock cameras

00:10:16.560 and i was like okay that's fair uh you know at the at the end of the day like people aren't aren't

00:10:22.320 going to well two thoughts one is if society decays enough where it's a low trust society

00:10:30.200 then flock cameras will be seen as the solution and so uh it's sad that it's to a point where

00:10:36.740 this kind of thing is starting to pop up but the other side of it is that um people aren't just

00:10:43.380 aren't going to stand for mass surveillance uh famously in in britain where they had a i think

00:10:49.580 it was a carbon it was like a carbon security camera monitoring when cars would go in and out

00:10:56.800 of certain neighborhoods uh to provide them with like a on-demand carbon tax a few years ago they

00:11:02.420 had these these guys known as blade runners that would go and cut down these cameras and there

00:11:08.200 would be trunks full of these cameras that they would harvest at night and it was just insane

00:11:12.740 Like people were just cutting these things down left and right.

00:11:15.040 And you're going to see the exact same thing here.

00:11:17.380 Well, the cameras aren't picking up the vigilantes' cars or who they are.

00:11:22.720 So good job, plot cameras. 0.75

00:11:24.900 Marcella, go.

00:11:26.460 Now, Marcella, I know the take you're going to have.

00:11:28.780 All right.

00:11:29.200 Give it to me, sister.

00:11:30.200 Tell me.

00:11:31.640 Talking about vigilantes, this is, well, I mean, depends on how you view this subject.

00:11:38.240 But I don't know what state, if it was the same Texas or whatever, but they were the police was trying to figure out who the men were that were cutting these cameras and people phoned in or wrote in or whatever it was and wrote Batman and Robin or Superman and whatever, you know, just because they were with this vigilantes, you know.

00:12:01.540 um but i i don't necessarily think that cameras prevent crime um because crime was lower when

00:12:12.720 when the police enforced the law and when the government enforces the law so if you i would

00:12:19.660 like to look at the numbers and does it does it really prevent crime or is it just a way to watch

00:12:25.040 us you know because as you as jeff mentioned i think he mentioned london or or england they have

00:12:32.300 so many cameras and i don't think things are better in london than they were in the past so

00:12:38.420 um so the the there's cameras in prisons and people are still getting you know killed or

00:12:46.000 well we know you can just watch it that's all epstein but allegedly so um i don't know like

00:12:53.660 do cameras actually do anything in regards to preventing crime i guess the only thing is like

00:12:59.160 you think somebody's watching you and you would act uh less crime but we're talking about criminals

00:13:05.520 are they really going to be like oh someone's watching me i know yeah criminals are famous

00:13:11.680 for thinking 10 steps ahead right yeah yeah and reasoning so i i think it can cause more damage

00:13:18.700 than than good but it is legal because you're in the public space so and and i think in general we

00:13:27.300 all carry cameras now so you have to be very cognizant of everything you say and everything

00:13:34.220 that you do because it's going to get on the news or on youtube or wherever so and you end up in the

00:13:40.840 background of other people's videos too which just sucks you know i can't you can't do anything 0.92

00:13:45.460 anymore without someone's filming you you're like get out of my face like you go to a concert 0.87

00:13:49.700 oh my i don't even go to concerts it's like they have their their their camera everywhere phone

00:13:55.060 and you're like but i paid to view this not through your phone oh right so i'm not pro camera

00:14:02.560 no me either owen take us home on this one well i i remember scott saying that kind of

00:14:09.100 mass surveillance is sort of inevitable at this point if you haven't lost your privacy already

00:14:13.180 you're going to and you should pretty much just accept it i i am not for mass surveillance i'd

00:14:18.880 like to have more privacy i wouldn't i don't want these types of mass surveillance cameras

00:14:24.220 everywhere um because it just seems like you're you know in this panopticon sort of police state

00:14:29.940 and it just seems like a dystopian future but it just seems like the way things are going you know

00:14:35.120 and i think some of it is just you can even just call it automation where it's like they don't

00:14:40.140 have enough police to police the streets so they're just going to use these drones and cameras

00:14:45.040 and all these other things the ring cameras were caught up in a similar controversy where they were

00:14:50.300 using that for tracking people and i mean you know i watched tv shows like i was just watching

00:14:55.260 person of interest which was that sort of tv show too where they just somebody had wired all the you

00:15:00.360 know nsa or whatever in to watch every single camera in the world basically and they were

00:15:05.380 tracking everybody and it turned into sort of a pre-crime sort of minority report thing where they

00:15:10.420 were predicting who was about to be killed or who was about to be involved with a crime or something

00:15:14.740 and it it all does seem very dystopian so i understand why there's vigilante justice or

00:15:20.100 vigilante people going after it um i'm not for vigilantes i don't i don't think that's a good

00:15:26.660 thing for society to have people just like going out and doing whatever they want outside the law

00:15:32.660 And I think if you are going to do that, you need to be ready to accept the consequences of it, which means you might go to jail, you might go to prison, you have, you know, crimes you committed.

00:15:41.920 But, you know, if I were voting for or against this in my neighborhood, I'd certainly be voting against it.

00:15:47.400 I don't have flat cameras everywhere.

00:15:49.560 No.

00:15:50.220 I still have to get out and do my investigative journalism on what's going on in the towns near me.

00:15:56.520 They're very low crime, thankfully, but I don't know what they're doing.

00:16:01.460 What more is that?

00:16:02.100 I don't know if I can add this, but somebody said is to fine, Ted said, to fine perpetrators.

00:16:08.060 I'm for fining perpetrators.

00:16:09.780 But the thing is, the law, at least in California, if you go to prison, I'm sorry, jail first, and then the judge eventually lets you go.

00:16:19.740 So it's like the issue that we have in regards to crime is not fining the criminal.

00:16:25.960 It's actually keeping them in prison.

00:16:28.720 Enforcing our laws.

00:16:29.640 like el salvador has done so it's good to have surveillance but what does what is it good for

00:16:37.800 and with all this facial recognition and ai stuff though we're at a very immature stage and i think

00:16:42.500 that's causing a lot of problems right now maybe it'll get to the point where it's all worked out

00:16:46.140 but right now you have people being accused of crimes they didn't commit based on these

00:16:50.200 videos there was a story i remember just seeing just recently where someone was was arrested

00:16:55.940 saying they like stole a package from some neighboring community and they had some video

00:17:00.920 of that person's car but it turned out it wasn't that person's car but the the policeman was just

00:17:05.620 convinced and wasn't willing to even hear the other side of the story and they had to go all

00:17:10.220 the way through the court process to get that person you know acquitted i guess yeah we mentioned

00:17:15.440 that one the other day and yeah i was saying like the cop was so certain he's like i'm positive it

00:17:20.580 was you i have it and she's like it wasn't me um but marcella you said the magic word i'm gonna i

00:17:27.380 have so many clips to get through you said uh you mentioned el salvador so here we go listen i i

00:17:33.640 think this was like about a week and a half ago ish when bukele visited the white house i just

00:17:40.480 love this exchange and um i don't know if they have flock cameras in el salvador but they're

00:17:46.380 doing a pretty good job uh handling this but let's take a look at bukele i'm not playing him

00:17:52.100 because he's hot um i just like this exchange yeah i'm just saying okay let's do you look hot

00:17:57.100 i mean i think so and we're very eager to help we know that uh you have a crime problem

00:18:05.840 a terrorism problem that you need help with and we're a small country but if we can help

00:18:11.620 And we actually turned the murder capital of the world, that was the Journalist College, murder capital of the world, into the safest country in the Western Hemisphere.

00:18:22.160 And, you know, sometimes they say that we imprisoned thousands.

00:18:27.480 I like to say that we actually liberated millions.

00:18:30.920 So, you know, like, it's very good.

00:18:35.360 Who gave him that line? Do you think I can use that?

00:18:37.780 And in fact, Mr. President, you have 350 million people to liberate.

00:18:45.600 But to liberate 350 million people, you have to imprison some.

00:18:49.640 You know, that's the way it works, right?

00:18:50.900 You cannot just, you know, free the criminals and think crime is going to go down magically.

00:18:55.120 You have to imprison them so you can liberate 350 million Americans that are asking for the end of crime and the end of terrorism.

00:19:02.880 And it can be done.

00:19:03.700 I mean, you're doing it already.

00:19:05.440 And I'm sure that people have seen the change in the streets.

00:19:09.900 A long way to go because you're just initiating your second term.

00:19:14.600 But it's clear that, you know, with the numbers at the border, you know, even in Democrats run cities, they get help from the world you're doing.

00:19:25.720 So I'm really happy to be here, honored and eager to help.

00:19:30.800 I love that.

00:19:31.820 So Bukele did a full on Scott Adams reframe, right?

00:19:35.900 So instead of imprisoning thousands, I liberated, you know, this many thousands.

00:19:41.740 And that's such an amazing way to look at it.

00:19:45.540 And I also feel like that's what people talk about when they say President Trump listens to everybody.

00:19:50.760 He loves to hear ideas.

00:19:51.880 He loves to take them in.

00:19:52.940 And I feel like that was just like a true moment where he was like, forget the cameras, like what this guy's saying makes sense.

00:19:58.860 I like it.

00:19:59.780 I want it for our people.

00:20:01.820 And he did such a great job in El Salvador.

00:20:05.780 So, Marcela, being our El Salvadorian chick, you take this one first.

00:20:11.980 I mean, I love that reframe.

00:20:14.800 I mean, it's true.

00:20:16.520 Like, if you are going to release criminals, they're going to cause more crime.

00:20:21.120 Not all of us are criminal.

00:20:23.220 So, there are people that do these kind of crimes, and you know who they are, and you have to imprison them.

00:20:29.300 You cannot have weakness when it comes to it.

00:20:35.620 The thing I do disagree with for Bukili is there's a little bit of lack of due process in El Salvador.

00:20:44.740 But I understand the severity of what El Salvador went through and what everybody had to live through. 0.77

00:20:52.500 Because it was the murder capital of the world.

00:20:54.680 there was not one day that you did not go out and you did not see a dead body or you heard gunshots

00:21:02.420 or you had to figure like how am I going to avoid this person or avoid being killed or you know

00:21:13.120 whatever so it's it's I understand the severity and I don't want the US to get to that severe 0.80

00:21:20.920 point where the crime is going to be as bad as El Salvador was. And then we're going to find that 0.95

00:21:26.760 we need to go bukele. I think we need to go bukele, mid bukele now, before we get to the

00:21:34.120 degree that El Salvador was. Right. Yeah. I think that's a good analysis. All right. Owen? 1.00

00:21:43.200 Well, I mean, I agree. I think to me, the key difference beyond just the scale that we're

00:21:49.460 dealing with is that we do have things like due process and individual rights and pretty strong

00:21:54.360 constitution that prevents the type of strong executive action that Bukele was able to do in

00:22:01.440 his own country, I think. And I don't even know the laws there or whether he broke them, but

00:22:05.820 I just see a challenge here and we're seeing it every day. I mean, we are trying to crack down

00:22:11.540 on crime. Trump is trying to lock up the criminals, but you have sanctuary cities and you have people

00:22:17.640 that are protesting ICE. And you've got these organized, funded protests that are basically

00:22:22.100 trying to tear down the country and release the criminals. And you've got people like

00:22:26.100 George Soros hiring DAs that'll be lax on crime. And so our system has some inherent,

00:22:33.620 you know, you can call them weaknesses or you can call them protections, depending on your point of

00:22:36.960 view. But it does make it a little harder to say, let's just lock up all the criminals and be done

00:22:41.580 with it. And the judges are a problem, too, by the way. So until everything gets in sync,

00:22:47.260 we have a problem. Jeff, do you have a take on this? Yeah. So in the introduction of my book,

00:22:53.020 Confidence Maxing, I talk about the war on human connection. And there are several facets to this

00:22:59.800 war. But one of the facets that I talk about is crime tolerance. And so crime tolerance is a huge

00:23:06.440 problem. I come at it from the angle of I want communities and a larger society that feels

00:23:14.840 perfectly safe going outside and mingling with people that they don't know if you have criminals

00:23:21.100 that are stabbing people in the neck guess what that's not going to happen and uh you're right

00:23:26.600 when you say uh you know there's a problem with the judges and and there's several issues upstream

00:23:32.180 um but the thing i will say is and i agree with marcel uh completely you do not want crime to

00:23:41.300 get to a point where a a bukele or even someone more authoritarian has to rise to power to correct

00:23:51.340 the issue because on a long enough timeline the issue is going to be corrected the only the only

00:23:56.660 nuance is should we do it now or should we wait until things are really really bad you don't want

00:24:01.160 to wait until things are really really bad uh and so i i'm just kind of selfish in this respect

00:24:07.220 because I want my clients and my friends and neighbors and everyone I know to exist in a safe

00:24:13.960 society. And that is not too much to ask. That's like table stakes of like Maslow's hierarchy of

00:24:21.560 needs. Guess what? People need to feel safe. And I think you actually can arrest your way out of

00:24:27.260 crime. Like we know who's doing the crime. Let's get them locked up. And over time, we are going

00:24:35.740 I need to turn some of these, these, these judges and DAs. And, and the final thing I'll point out

00:24:40.480 speaking to George Soros, um, whenever there is a, like a prosecuting attorney or district attorney

00:24:47.320 election in your area, do some research on the candidates. We just had ours and I did a deep

00:24:53.360 dive into both the candidates. One was an incumbent and one was, uh, a, a challenger, obviously. And

00:24:59.600 And I always look at that stuff like a hawk to see, hey, is Soros funding any of this through, you know, this this organization or that organization?

00:25:10.120 We just had a Soros funded DA candidate lose in 2022.

00:25:14.720 And so like in your local city, if you do see a Soros DA candidate, volunteer for the other side, because, look, there's there's just it's going to be a real bad time for you.

00:25:27.900 if a Soros DA gets elected in your town. Oh yeah. Um, yes. And I agree with what you're saying. Oh,

00:25:35.740 I wanted to make a point and then I got sidetracked over here. That's okay. Um, all right. So

00:25:40.680 let's see, you know, what happens. Um, I think that we should, we, you know, we deserve to live

00:25:48.800 feeling safe. Um, it, it would just be the best of everything. Oh, I know what I was going to say

00:25:55.560 that, you know, Scott used to always say, test small, test small, try something, you know,

00:26:00.520 and see how it goes. I mean, Giuliani cleaning up New York City, and it was bad. And when I tell you,

00:26:10.000 I know I've been going to New York my whole life. When I would go there before Giuliani,

00:26:16.080 it was sketchy for decades. During Giuliani, I felt like I was at Disney World. It was like

00:26:23.080 so clean you felt so safe there was no bs around and um and then i just watched it quickly it did

00:26:32.480 start with bloomberg it started going down bloomberg and de blasio put it into warp speed

00:26:37.360 because we had our own little commie dictator mayor and then it went to adams who was completely 0.90

00:26:42.900 useless and now we have a radical islamist um just destroying every last bit of it so um it it it can 0.95

00:26:52.260 happen and i don't know who could step up and do it again like giuliani did but man let's hope yeah 0.99

00:26:58.760 the girly shows disappear they sure did um just looking at the chat all right so let me move on

00:27:04.160 um i wanted to show this clip of katie corrick talking to john fetterman

00:27:11.180 fetterman's like the you know the poor man's joe mansion so anyway i she just i can't like this is

00:27:20.520 i mean just to know do you guys have the same thing i have like where you think back to like

00:27:25.240 we used to love watching the today show like before all the cable stuff came around and you're

00:27:29.640 like oh katie quirk's so smart and oprah's like wants to be everyone's best friend and then you

00:27:35.080 find out like who these people really are and it's like so disgusting it's just like i don't know it's

00:27:41.080 like finding out your parents were serial killers that's how i look at it and if your parents are

00:27:45.960 serial killers. I'm so sorry if I insulted you. But that's how I feel looking at Oprah and

00:27:51.800 everybody now. I can't stand it. So listen to her. And this is pertaining to Charlie Kirk,

00:27:59.460 which the pre-trial is going on right now. But let's just take a listen. I want to just vomit.

00:28:03.580 Here we go. Do you think that flag should have been flown at half staff? Do you think his body

00:28:09.340 should have been flown on Air Force Two? Do you think he should have posthumously be given the

00:28:15.260 Presidential Medal of Freedom, I think some people felt that that was perhaps over the top

00:28:23.580 in terms of mourning someone like Charlie Kirk. How did you feel about that?

00:28:31.400 I'd say that that was his choice and his prerogative. And that was really entirely up to

00:28:38.900 him. Did you have any issues now in hindsight over some of the things that Charlie Kirk said

00:28:45.900 and some of the rhetoric he used during his life? I didn't agree with much of it. I didn't

00:28:54.300 closely follow his specific kinds of views, but I did. I'm sure you learned about them after his

00:29:00.780 death, though. No, I haven't done a deep dive on it. You know, I described, I mean, we've all seen

00:29:07.500 that terrible video perhaps if you've seen the actual video i have and it's like appalling and

00:29:12.600 that's part of the political violence and from what i'm saying it's it's like that's unacceptable

00:29:17.440 and engaging in a debate and views i strongly disagree on that's part of the american democracy

00:29:25.300 and for me it's uh that would never justify what's happened and i just chose not to take

00:29:34.300 the opportunity to argue his views after children lost his father in the most violent public way.

00:29:43.440 I mean, so that's, I would say the equivalent. The equivalent on the left might be, say,

00:29:48.460 Mr. Piker, I strongly disagree with his views, but I would, I'm appalled if something like that

00:29:55.240 happened to him. Oh my God. I mean, that's, you know, like we have to disagree in better ways

00:30:01.360 where, you know, you're going to solve it by shooting people. And that's why the kinds of

00:30:06.180 rhetoric, we have to turn the temperature down. Extreme rhetoric makes it easier for extreme 0.61

00:30:12.160 reactions or to justify them. I think some people might say Charlie Kirk's rhetoric was extreme.

00:30:19.500 You know, I think that's the conversation that happened. People condemned political violence,

00:30:25.440 but they also felt a great deal of discomfort with his language, suggesting that these kinds

00:30:33.340 of words lead to violence. I don't know. I'm just kind of sharing my observations as I saw

00:30:42.020 the conversations unfold. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think we agree that we probably didn't agree

00:30:50.060 with much of what he said but and i think we i'm sure we both agree that you shouldn't shoot people

00:30:56.140 you know and you shouldn't execute them in public uh and and that's i think that's two things must

00:31:02.700 be true that free speech i'm an absolute free speech guy and you have the right to say these

00:31:11.420 things and you definitely also have the right not to get shot by sharing your views

00:31:16.400 owen i'm just gonna come right to you because you know i'm gonna start cursing if i say anything

00:31:24.360 else i feel like cursing too what what words katie what words i know because charlie kirk was

00:31:31.240 one of the most polite and respectful people in every single one of those talks he gave on college

00:31:38.740 cancer he gave everybody a voice he let them talk he did not insult them he did not say anything

00:31:45.440 that was like offensive and inflammatory, he would make his argument and he would stick to his point

00:31:51.340 of view. And I'm sure a lot of people were offended by that just because they're offended

00:31:55.160 by anybody who disagrees with them. But Charlie Kirk is like the worst possible person you could

00:32:00.040 pick to say, oh, he was super inflammatory and offensive because he was the opposite of that.

00:32:04.440 He was the most polite, respectful person. He would just have a conversation with people.

00:32:10.140 And that was his whole idea was, let's just have real conversations. And, you know, I, to some

00:32:15.740 extent, I don't know that I model myself after Charlie, but I try to do the same thing. Like

00:32:20.120 in my after party, it's like, people will disagree with you sometimes. And I'll just try and have a

00:32:23.580 respectful conversation with him. Yeah. There's no reason not to. You don't do name calling. You

00:32:28.480 don't do inflammatory things. You don't try to provoke them. And I don't think Charlie ever did

00:32:33.900 that. And, and for Katie to say, Oh, it was his fault is kind of the message he's trying to say

00:32:38.820 without without any evidence she didn't have any quotes or anything and usually whenever anybody

00:32:43.380 uses a quote it's highly out of context it's like one of those rupar sort of things so 0.93

00:32:48.100 it's complete bs and the only thing i would say i appreciate about katie is that she wears the

00:32:53.060 glasses that labels her for who she is she has the liberal glasses that that let you know that

00:32:59.220 she should be avoided that's right all right i'm gonna come to you marcella um oh my god we were

00:33:05.380 we're behind the scenes like we can see each other below while the thing's going on

00:33:09.300 i'm like flipping the bird double birds we're like ah all right so take it away i mean you

00:33:16.180 can see her crazy eyes she's hiding the crazy eyes behind those glasses um i just want to know how

00:33:22.420 brainwashed you have to be to have those lines from her because she truly does believe it and 0.89

00:33:27.380 i've talked to people like her and they come with these lines and they cannot code anything unless

00:33:33.940 it's out of context regarding Charlie and it's just hilarious and horrendous at the same time

00:33:43.360 that they're trying to put this out there and what does she mean by oh he uses extreme words

00:33:52.220 so does that I want her to finish the thought okay does she mean if you have extreme beliefs 0.96

00:34:00.740 and you word them, then you deserve to be assassinated because that's what she doesn't 0.99

00:34:06.980 go. She kind of leaves it like, you know, on its own. I want to know if you're going to stand for 0.99

00:34:13.100 that. Tell me that. Maybe we can get her on the show, on the school. Oh, I want to get her in

00:34:18.640 person, but talk to her. No, because I really think that if you talk to this brainwashed people,

00:34:25.400 walk them through like Charlie did, I think eventually they'll have to reach a conclusion

00:34:30.600 that they want people to think differently than them killed or that that's wrong one or the other

00:34:38.120 yeah you know trying to make people uncomfortable because they realized that he was smarter than

00:34:44.380 them and and they couldn't out debate him sorry logical just logical true so uh yeah i i know

00:34:53.340 marcel i'm listen i'm with you i couldn't even speak after that uh jeff go ahead yeah so a few

00:35:00.280 a few thoughts i'll go farther i think charlie kirk's body should have laid in state at the

00:35:05.260 capitol like he was our future president he yeah they were lining him up to be president potentially

00:35:14.260 after after vance right so uh and part of the reason i say that is so that the um the tyler

00:35:21.820 robinsons of the world who think that they'll change things with one bullet know that not only

00:35:27.460 will history forget them or scorn them that the ideas that they try to silence will gain gain

00:35:34.680 strength by a thousand fold and not not only will you not silence people you won't silence people

00:35:41.000 like charlie their ideas will sweep the nation and you will amplify and that's all that you would

00:35:47.920 ever do uh and so yeah like my like my moderate solution is that we need propaganda detox camps

00:35:57.040 you know for uh now i'm now we do notice i'm not saying concentration i'm saying

00:36:03.700 a nice uh semi-voluntary uh propaganda detox camp where rfas like he issues people like uh

00:36:12.520 jeans to work out in every day and uh charlie kirk is playing constantly in the full context

00:36:19.240 and uh for for people like katie quirk and people that listen to her uh someone in the

00:36:26.880 chat brought up and i agree with this whole wholeheartedly um it's obvious that katie

00:36:32.120 did not watch the video of charlie kirk getting shot because it is impossible to watch that video

00:36:38.740 i've only seen it once i think uh and like it was nausea inducing right like uh and i didn't even

00:36:47.160 follow charlie all that closely when he was alive but when i started thinking of charlie's kids like

00:36:51.660 I was absolutely distraught.

00:36:54.480 And we cannot live in a society where people primarily on the left, make no mistake, it's almost always on the left, go out hunting, as Scott would say, for Republicans.

00:37:05.460 It is inappropriate and it cannot be tolerated.

00:37:08.020 And so, yeah, they're like, it's just it's it's just one of the most vile things when any any journalist hack says something like, well, a lot of people are saying or many people would say, no, own what you're saying.

00:37:23.000 You're saying, I think you don't couch it in many.

00:37:27.720 Yeah, right.

00:37:28.480 Certain people might might think.

00:37:30.220 No.

00:37:30.700 What do you think?

00:37:31.840 And just people don't own what they're what they're saying.

00:37:34.460 And she's like, should he have been flown on Air Force Two?

00:37:38.800 No, it should have been Air Force One. 1.00

00:37:40.220 Shut the fuck up, jerk off. 1.00

00:37:42.260 Sorry. 1.00

00:37:42.880 But I can't stand that because if it was – 1.00

00:37:45.240 She's a weasel. 1.00

00:37:45.620 She's a weasel. 1.00

00:37:46.440 She's a horrible human being. 1.00

00:37:47.440 If Scott put her in his comic, she would be a weasel. 1.00

00:37:50.680 Yeah, she would be. 1.00

00:37:52.220 She's horrible. 1.00

00:37:53.620 She's disgusting, and they all sicken me. 0.99

00:37:55.960 All right, so I just – sometimes I feel like if I had to see it, you guys have to see it, right? 0.97

00:38:00.700 Like we're family.

00:38:01.440 Like you have to feel my pain.

00:38:02.680 Thank you so much.

00:38:04.460 But, yeah, no, you can't hate these people enough.

00:38:07.880 Oh, I'm sweating.

00:38:09.080 I'm literally sweating from that.

00:38:10.340 I would have to add that Fetterman did a great job because he kept himself composed and he was able to answer her questions and lead her through his, you know, because I could tell that he was like, what is she asking?

00:38:26.920 Like, is she really asking me these kind of questions?

00:38:29.680 She's trying to lead him, right, to say the thing I want you to say.

00:38:32.980 he did really the strange thing about fetterman though is like he sounds like a republican when

00:38:37.440 he talks he sounds very common sense but he always votes democrat and it's like what what's

00:38:42.920 going on there i mean you know and there seems to be some disconnect where it's like you know

00:38:48.820 you say these things that sound reasonable like i want to like you or i want to agree with you but

00:38:52.960 then you turn around and vote the other way yep um i know well that's the thing i feel like he

00:38:59.920 he's kind of hanging on as like a traditional moderate Democrat. And it's like, John, they're

00:39:05.860 gone. They're all gone. Like they're Republicans now. They're there. Come on over. Um, so he's

00:39:12.140 like a holdout and he'll catch up. Um, all right. I wanted to play a micro lesson from Scott. Okay.

00:39:18.520 This is like a nice little intermezzo. So you guys, it's a quick micro lesson. So grab your

00:39:24.400 coffee and let's just hear the voice of our angel and just let's learn something just for a couple

00:39:31.140 of minutes. Here's a micro lesson on knowing who you are. Some time ago, my young teenage

00:39:38.980 stepdaughter asked me why I seem to have a higher opinion of her than she had of herself. And I had

00:39:46.300 to think about it for a while. And then I realized that she judged herself by who she was at the

00:39:51.900 moment and what she had done up to then. So she was looking at from the point of her birth up to

00:39:58.860 the current, and she decided, well, I'm not sure that's so great. What have I done? But I realized

00:40:05.840 later that I don't look at her that way. I look at her habits. She does systems over goals. I look

00:40:11.440 at her character. And what I see is this future that she has not achieved yet. So I actually was

00:40:17.780 judging her by her potential. She was judging her by what she's done so far. And her frame was not

00:40:25.240 nearly as good as mine. Because my frame that you can do great things, as long as you work at it and

00:40:31.180 develop the right talents and have the right kind of personality for it, you're pretty great. Maybe

00:40:37.040 in a variety of ways. You just haven't done it yet. And I've lived my entire life in this frame.

00:40:43.600 I've never considered myself what I've done so far.

00:40:47.240 I only think of myself, including now at my age, by what I'll do in the future.

00:40:52.880 That's my value.

00:40:54.340 Your value, too, is what you haven't done yet.

00:40:58.300 And that's who you are.

00:41:00.260 You're the person who might do this great stuff later.

00:41:05.740 Yeah, you are.

00:41:06.960 Yeah, we are.

00:41:08.480 I'm looking forward to it, too.

00:41:10.180 I have plans.

00:41:11.060 um i think i mean do we need to say anything about that does everyone get it you know about

00:41:16.060 these plans i know one thing i do i do like about that quite a bit is simply that it's easy to feel

00:41:26.440 kind of locked into what you've done uh up until this point right uh i'm gonna turn the bay 4-0

00:41:33.340 in a couple months and uh you know i think i've i've done pretty well uh but then it kind of

00:41:39.840 makes you think of like well there is other stuff that i that i could do just because i've done

00:41:43.760 something for so long doesn't mean i'm completely locked into it and it kind of frees you up where

00:41:48.060 you feel like hey i can explore new things because scott sort of really famously had had a bunch of

00:41:55.540 different things going on yeah uh and that's one of the things i really appreciated about him because

00:42:00.320 uh he he kind of wasn't precious with like like he he sort of had this mindset of i'm gonna try

00:42:05.880 a bunch of things and see what happens to get some traction. And I think that's just the right,

00:42:11.200 the exact right way to go through life is just constantly be trying these small tests and just

00:42:16.180 see what happens. And I love that. I love that. And I can tell you as someone who was 40 one time,

00:42:22.480 so much has changed and happened in my life from 40 till now that Jeff, you're going to be amazed

00:42:29.700 what you're going to experience do try become learn your talent stack it's going to it's going

00:42:35.980 to grow exponentially from here from where you are now to where i am it's amazing uh when i was 40

00:42:43.480 i hadn't met scott and or you know discovered scott and uh hadn't lifted weights before that

00:42:50.420 was maybe a couple years after that that i started lifting weights and um so yeah you can reinvent

00:42:55.460 yourself but i what i was going to say about that is the frame that you talked about it's like i

00:42:59.100 think it is a common frame for parents to use with their kids. And that's kind of the relationship

00:43:03.500 that Scott was talking about, is that when you look at your kids, you do look at their potential.

00:43:07.920 You look at what their future looks like. You're trying to set them up for a good future.

00:43:12.060 So you kind of fall into that frame. But I think it's a lot harder to do that with yourself.

00:43:15.860 But I think the differentiator there is, do you have that growth mindset or do you have the fixed

00:43:20.100 mindset? And there are so many people that have that fixed mindset. And even kids have the same

00:43:24.640 thing i can't tell you how many times i was trying to get my kids to understand that like hey you can

00:43:29.420 get better at something if you try something and you're not good at it right away don't quit

00:43:33.460 like just work at it and you'll see that you'll get better and after a while you'll find out that

00:43:38.440 you're pretty good at it and then you'll feel good about it and you want to keep going but it's really

00:43:42.720 hard to get that through a kid's head like both my boys were like well i'm not good at that so i'm

00:43:48.720 just not going to do it and i was like that as a kid too i mean i played baseball in little league

00:43:52.520 and I was terrible at it. And I just quit because I'm just, I don't like this. I'm not good at it.

00:43:56.360 I don't, you know, I'm not going to do this. And my brother did the opposite and he played all the

00:44:00.860 way up to college and he was a catcher, you know, on his college team. And, and, um, one of my sons

00:44:07.400 did that too with baseball. He played all the way up to college, but it was that sort of thing where

00:44:11.460 like, I think he got lucky maybe that he was relatively good at it relatively young. And so

00:44:16.860 once he got like selected for the you know the top tier team then he was like oh well now I'm

00:44:22.980 you know I'm this is my thing I'm really good at this but I think he still thought he was just

00:44:27.520 naturally good at it and I think that's where a lot of people fall down is you don't you don't

00:44:32.220 start out good at something you got to start out being bad at something and being able to put in

00:44:36.020 the time and the reps and get to the point where you can see yourself getting better yeah and having

00:44:40.840 that growth mindset is so important and I think you probably should apply the frame to everybody

00:44:45.220 else too that's maybe even harder because i think we naturally judge people by their actions in the

00:44:49.940 past as opposed to their potential but you know i think you you can and you should try and do the

00:44:55.460 same thing and say if you recognize someone's potential then you can look at them in a very

00:45:00.420 different way than just what they've done up to that point and you guys don't be scared to try

00:45:05.060 something new don't be embarrassed don't be scared don't be afraid don't have self-doubt don't talk

00:45:10.580 down to yourself about it. Literally just do it. And I always just use the example, like all the

00:45:18.560 different businesses I've owned and things I've done. And I was like, I don't want to outsource

00:45:22.320 everything. Let me just try to do it. And as soon as you start, I hate using the word try,

00:45:27.500 but as soon as you start trying, you're doing. So if I'm trying to build a website, now I'm doing

00:45:33.720 it. I'm in it. And then all of a sudden I know how to do a website. So don't be afraid of that

00:45:38.620 stuff. And there is a YouTube tutorial for everything in this world that you can imagine.

00:45:44.960 So if you're like, well, I don't know how to do this, or I don't know how to do that. Just go to

00:45:47.960 YouTube and put it in. And someone has made a video for you to watch and then just get out

00:45:52.860 there and do it. Marcella, anything to wrap this up? No, he's right. You have to look at people

00:45:58.760 for their potential. Like Owen said, you have to look at other people, which is harder for their

00:46:03.760 potential. There's a lot of people with potential here in California. And I have to look at the

00:46:10.900 future of what they may become after I speak to them. You know, that's what keeps me going here.

00:46:18.240 But it's, it's really hard. Sometimes you have bad days and you think, oh, I haven't accomplished

00:46:24.880 what I want. And it's still, you know, you have to put yourself in that reframe of growth, and

00:46:32.980 it's going to come and there, there's so much more to do. And I admired, uh, Scott for many

00:46:40.340 reasons, but one of the reasons is that he seemed to have that even at his, um, even at the end,

00:46:46.920 you know? So as you grow older, you still have that, you know, that there should be other things

00:46:52.840 that you can dive into and hobbies you can do. If you never read any of Scott's books, um, I always

00:47:01.860 recommend how to fail at everything. Um, that book is a little bit of like a autobiography

00:47:08.900 from Scott because he, you learn a lot about his life, but you learn a lot about the things that

00:47:14.120 he set off to do and maybe he failed, but there it is. Um, you can get that on Amazon. I suggest

00:47:20.900 it. And if you want to gift it to somebody, I think, I think anyone like in college is a great

00:47:27.620 book for college students. And also if you're like, maybe do I want to change my job or do I

00:47:32.880 want to add something to my talent stack? Just read that book. I do it on audio book. I love

00:47:38.820 that one. That's the one you read first chunks. That's a great book. And also you'll really get

00:47:42.280 to know a lot more about Scott with that book. Okay. So we have just about 12 minutes left. I

00:47:49.680 do want to play this. So you guys are in the know with the news, another clip. Let's take a listen

00:47:56.560 and then we'll talk on the other side the obsession with personal purity we're not hiring a priest

00:48:02.520 wait a minute language warning language warning so if there's little kids or you're

00:48:11.640 got virgin ears just warning okay here we go that's the obsession with personal purity we're 1.00

00:48:17.440 not hiring a priest we're hiring a senator we're gonna talk about fucking tattoos and sexting he 1.00

00:48:22.940 gets a hall pass. I don't give a fuck if somebody had a toxic relationship. Toxic relationships 1.00

00:48:28.420 and tattoos and all of this shit. Talk about Susan Collins. He could be a hundred times more 1.00

00:48:35.640 fucked up than he is. He'd never be as fucked up as what we got in Washington now anyway. What I'm 1.00

00:48:39.780 more outraged about is stupid Susan Collins. I asked all of you to consider the candidacy of 1.00

00:48:45.000 Graham Plattner. I asked all of you to understand his flaws. Are you rescinding your support for

00:48:49.360 Graham Plattner after the lewd post that leaked. What's the polling in Maine right now? I don't

00:48:54.220 get bothered by it as much. None of it. He's someone who had a drinking problem as a Marine.

00:48:58.500 Plattner has owned up to mistakes he made as a younger guy. Do I want to make the best the enemy

00:49:02.580 of the good? Graham Plattner is popular even though he is flawed. He is a flawed man, just like I'm a

00:49:07.140 flawed man. And this is the key. Everybody is flawed at some level. No one's perfect. All

00:49:11.400 politicians have baggage. This just happens to be a candidate that has baggage. He's got he's got

00:49:15.540 anti-Semitic tattoo. I feel like this president is saying I hate black people. I like Graham 1.00

00:49:20.600 Plattner. You like Graham Plattner. That's my kind of man. I would vote for Plattner. Let's get some

00:49:27.500 power. Let's take over the Senate. Let's take over the House. Somebody that has put his life on the 0.99

00:49:33.060 line for this country against somebody that is literally empowering the moral hollowing out

00:49:41.260 of our nation. He had had two tours of duty in Iraq. He came back broken in a dark place. He

00:49:47.280 took accountability. He acknowledges that he was misogynistic, was toxic toxicity. And there was 0.98

00:49:53.940 a verbal intimidation, which I condemn. It happened in a dark period of his life. He's

00:49:59.520 taken accountability. He started an oyster farm. He was on the ocean for years. He found himself.

00:50:05.120 Look, let's give him some grace. He went into combat on behalf of the United States. He went

00:50:09.800 through a really rough period. Yeah. PTSD type period. Graham clearly made a mistake. And I've

00:50:15.060 been on CNN saying that what I appreciated about him is he owned that mistake. You know, what is

00:50:20.160 disqualifying is having a senator in Maine who just does Donald Trump's bidding. This is a guy

00:50:24.860 who has served this country, who has gone through some really tough things. If this is going to be

00:50:30.680 a character election in Maine, there is a question of character in continuing to support a president

00:50:37.460 that is terrorizing immigrants.

00:50:40.040 I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that Graham Plattner is the next senator 1.00

00:50:43.560 from the state of Maine. 1.00

00:50:45.040 You know, all those Bible-clutching Christians voted for the guy who we all heard 0.98

00:50:48.400 boast about sexual assault. 0.99

00:50:50.200 Democrats have to take over the Senate. 0.65

00:50:52.440 They have to take over the House. 0.64

00:50:54.300 If I lived in Maine, I would hold my nose and I would tip full-back lever

00:50:58.440 and I would vote for him.

00:50:59.880 Maybe we should be focusing on the important issues facing working people

00:51:04.800 throughout this country, not focusing on his marriage. 0.79

00:51:07.900 It doesn't matter because he's right about what's wrong.

00:51:11.080 Sometimes you make alliances that you would not have made

00:51:14.980 under a different set of circumstances.

00:51:17.060 Franklin Roosevelt, Wilson Churchill, who did they work with? 0.57

00:51:19.960 Well, Joseph Stalin.

00:51:21.240 His imperfections are imperfections that we can all identify with. 0.51

00:51:24.740 I'm not going to sit here and judge Mainers who want to push away, 0.83

00:51:27.340 push against the status quo.

00:51:29.080 It's not my place to judge.

00:51:30.060 If Graham Plattner can earn their trust, then he earns their trust.

00:51:32.060 He thinks he's a changed person, a transformed person.

00:51:35.620 I believe him.

00:51:36.680 Graham Plattner is no Nazi.

00:51:38.260 I don't think that he's a racist in any way.

00:51:40.340 His relationship with his wife is his relationship with his wife.

00:51:44.460 It's all about, you know, leaked, consensual, you know, stuff.

00:51:48.620 The accusations against Graham Plattner are not classic Me Too accusations.

00:51:54.420 Not like classic abuse allegations.

00:51:57.300 Of course, in the Access Hollywood tape, President Trump bragged about grabbing women against their will.

00:52:04.860 Gender-related accusations get bundled together, but they're actually very different.

00:52:10.100 The obsession with personal –

00:52:11.940 Okay, so – okay, wait.

00:52:14.480 So, it's not classic Me Too. 0.98

00:52:16.720 It's a different kind of R-A-P-E. 1.00

00:52:20.960 And I have to say allegedly.

00:52:23.820 Okay, so – and wait, I love the one guy goes,

00:52:27.300 Like, do we need Susan Collins doing the bidding of Donald Trump?

00:52:31.620 Oh, yeah, that happens all the time. 1.00

00:52:33.440 Susan Collins is like, Trump, let's go. 0.97

00:52:35.520 Whatever you want, I'm voting for you.

00:52:37.420 Yeah, sure.

00:52:39.260 And you guys, that clip is just your roadmap of who hates you, how much they lie to you, 0.99

00:52:47.100 how much they don't give a shit about you. 1.00

00:52:49.820 Ro Khanna is a snake. 1.00

00:52:52.440 He's going to run for president.

00:52:53.720 he will conform to anything the democrats want to hear to get in and watch out for him you hear it

00:53:00.200 from me first and kara swisher i just wanted to give her a shout out i can't stand her um that's

00:53:06.980 all i wanted to say i just wanted to give like personal critique on things like that that's it

00:53:10.580 um and i do want to say that um graham plattner dropped out guys he dropped out of the race so

00:53:16.040 bye graham this is like a microcosm of what's everything that's wrong with the democrat party

00:53:21.000 I mean, the fact that they put up a candidate like that and then tried to defend them is one part of it.

00:53:25.000 But the other part is how they're handling it right now with them dropping out.

00:53:28.380 They're doing it again. They're doing it again where they select the candidate for the population.

00:53:33.960 They let they had a primary. They they chose Graham Plattner through whatever means they did that.

00:53:39.960 And and now they're just saying, oops, sorry, we're just going to swap in somebody.

00:53:44.380 And this is your candidate now. This is going to be your new senator.

00:53:47.380 and like they don't even say we need a new primary we need a new you know and right it just

00:53:54.560 baffles me how the democrats just sit there and take it they just that was the kamala play that's

00:53:59.500 what they did with kamala yeah it's like they they don't seem to even complain that their candidates

00:54:05.120 are being selected for them by the democrat party like they are right now yep again um oh my gosh

00:54:11.400 all right marcella were you flipping out like these people are so cuckoo for cocoa puffs and

00:54:16.720 how they're just like oh so he has a nazi tattoo he so he had a drinking problem oh so he may have

00:54:23.680 been inappropriate with some 18 years he had this tattoo um my my issue with the entire thing is

00:54:30.860 it's his politics it's what he stood for and what he thinks that they should have been appalled by

00:54:38.080 uh the me too uh cases i you know i respect these women that came out uh and had these allegations

00:54:46.280 But to me, they're allegations. You're innocent or proven guilty. And they seem to be very, these allegations came out at a very opportune time because the Democratic Party only had until July 27 to get a new candidate in.

00:55:09.620 And so these, Ali, I'm not suggesting anything maybe, but it just seems odd, odd timing for these two.

00:55:18.340 I believe there's been two accusations, two accusers right now.

00:55:23.540 Just seems kind of, it's another, like Owen said, another Kamala pick.

00:55:30.460 Yeah, the Democrats are just little sheep. 0.61

00:55:33.100 They can't think for themselves. 0.97

00:55:34.380 They're like, okay, just who should we vote for?

00:55:36.400 We have no control anyway. 1.00

00:55:37.640 And it's, it's just the weakest, most criminal, um, pathetic group of people I've ever seen 1.00

00:55:44.520 violent. 0.97

00:55:44.940 And I'm sorry, I'm a little spicy today.

00:55:47.920 Um, okay, Jeff, were you freaking out like me?

00:55:50.620 Yeah.

00:55:51.140 So my hunch is that one of two things is true and I don't know which one is they ran

00:55:58.480 Plattner because they're like, yeah, he's a, he's a train wreck.

00:56:01.420 We're going to be able to get him out of there.

00:56:02.940 No sweat when the time comes that could be true.

00:56:06.100 you know the owen school thought and it's hard to disagree with that the other the other thought

00:56:11.160 that occurred to me is that um that maybe the democrats primarily select their candidates

00:56:18.720 based on how blackmailable they might be and so they would probably prefer them to have 0.61

00:56:24.760 blackmail material out of the box rather than have to fabricate any blackmail on someone who

00:56:30.960 is morally upstanding. It's going to be a lot harder to manufacture some blackmail on someone

00:56:37.800 who lives a clean life. Instead, get someone who kind of lives a dirty life and be like,

00:56:42.280 all right, man, this is great. There is so much we could use to control this person.

00:56:46.420 Oh, it got out? Oh, no. Well, we're going to have to swap someone out real quick. And so

00:56:50.760 maybe both of those things are true. I don't know. But this guy seems like sort of a dirtbag.

00:56:55.660 yeah a little bit yeah nikki same that's my thought exactly was you know they refer to 0.75

00:57:01.680 trump's leaked audio tape on the entertainment tonight bus or whatever that was access hollywood

00:57:06.780 you know saying something like oh you know you could pretty much do whatever you want this guy

00:57:11.540 literally alleged literally allegedly in my opinion um potentially raped women um you know

00:57:21.620 and then some people are like oh well they shouldn't be able to come out later and say

00:57:24.880 this and say like the democrats are actually saying this and it's like oh okay remember the

00:57:28.980 kavanaugh hearings like do we have to go through all of this um and by the way you know maybe the

00:57:34.360 last woman that came out was like oh good other people are coming out like they're letting you

00:57:39.300 know people know who he really is and when it wasn't working maybe she was like wait a minute

00:57:43.660 like now i have to get involved because this is what he did to me you don't know what someone's

00:57:47.400 thinking and maybe she didn't want to come out at all but she did say i think in one of her interviews

00:57:52.460 that she you know didn't come forward before because she agreed with his politics oh wow okay

00:57:58.620 and my suspicion and this is just speculation maybe a conspiracy theory is that maybe

00:58:03.820 the democrats realized that this story was going to come out and they decided let's get in front

00:58:09.940 of this while we can still replace him with a different candidate because if they waited too

00:58:13.840 long then grant blattner stays on the ballot and there's no replacing him so i think it could be

00:58:19.220 that the Democrats decided, Hey, you know, let's have this person come forward and, you know,

00:58:24.640 convince her that it's better for the party and it's better for politics to just do this now

00:58:28.500 rather than later. So let me also say, I'm going to, I'm going to bundle bundle. I don't know,

00:58:34.900 mess this up. Okay. So he didn't drop out. He suspended his campaign. So he's still on the

00:58:39.900 ballot. Um, but also in 2024, there was some law made where if this type of thing happens,

00:58:47.520 like and it's 10 weeks before uh an election or something the governor uh can then say okay like

00:58:57.040 we're gonna have like a new election and anyone who wants to run can jump in but now the problem

00:59:03.020 is is that this 10 weeks would end up right when like the primary is so they're saying well don't

00:59:08.420 do that because then the primary is happening so yes oh and it looks like in my opinion they're

00:59:14.920 going to install the person they want to install so because they've never they never figured this

00:59:20.520 closeness into the thing the thing that i'm wondering and i researched that the democratic

00:59:25.720 party is going to choose their next person but isn't it isn't it if he if the he suspended his

00:59:33.960 campaign that but if he leaves the camp his campaign and and drops out wouldn't it be the

00:59:40.900 next person because there was a primary already. And the general election is who he's going to go

00:59:47.060 against Susan Collins. But you would think that whoever came in second in that primary would be

00:59:52.960 the person that would be chosen to go against Susan Collins. Can you check that out for us

00:59:58.420 later, Marcella? So I did think that would make sense. But I think it's just not the way the

01:00:03.580 Democrat Party rules. Yeah. So I did check it out. And the Democratic Party, as Owen is talking

01:00:09.360 about they don't they are by july 27 they're allowed to pick someone new the party itself

01:00:15.360 okay and there is a process that they pick that person through um and i can talk about it tomorrow

01:00:23.940 but you know as exciting as that is but yeah it's very very nuanced very very interesting

01:00:31.220 all right so maybe you know tomorrow we have jesse kelly coming on he is a hoot you guys and

01:00:37.760 whatever subjects you know i we left it open you know we said we could talk about whatever

01:00:42.980 um just go with the flow let him you know riff and talk to us i do appreciate his takes on most

01:00:49.360 things so um we'll be back tomorrow and you guys thank you for being here today jeff we're so happy

01:00:56.460 to see you again we are happy yeah we could have you back today um all right you guys so let's do

01:01:02.140 it. Let's start our goodbyes. Let's say thank you to Scott and Shelly for allowing this show to

01:01:08.100 continue. You guys don't forget about learning a tree, learning a skill, building your talent stack

01:01:14.400 and everything Scott taught us in the micro lesson today and teach all these things to your kids too.

01:01:19.120 Okay. All right. So let's have a closing sip to Scott. I'll stay and do an Akira song. And if

01:01:24.100 you guys have to jet, just jet out. I appreciate all of you, Jeff Owen and Marcella and everybody

01:01:28.940 here all right guys a closing sip to scott to scott to scott to scott

01:01:38.220 bye guys okay let's see let's see have the exit cat as well oh hi little baby kitty all right

01:01:45.980 let's do the payoff the payoff today say hi i heard that little voice she's named after leo

01:01:54.460 leo messi you know messy oh sorry yeah all right here we go with the payoff y'all from akira the

01:02:02.940 dawn what if laziness is a habit of thinking about the cost of things or the effort instead of

01:02:11.900 thinking about the payoff the payoff i'm gonna say it again the payoff

01:02:25.420 Get a few more heads to explode.

01:02:27.760 What if you could reverse laziness by simply developing a habit of thinking more about,

01:02:32.940 let's say, the delicious food that you'd like to enjoy,

01:02:35.800 instead of how long it would take you to get up and go get it?

01:02:40.460 But the real question is, if you were to test this out,

01:02:43.680 and try to see if you can think more about the good outcome and less about the work,

01:02:49.240 would you get it done?

01:02:50.100 What if laziness is a habit of thinking about the cost of things or the effort

01:02:57.440 instead of thinking about the payoff?

01:03:02.260 The payoff.

01:03:06.720 I'm going to say it again.

01:03:08.560 The payoff.

01:03:12.080 Get a few more answers.

01:03:14.140 Why is it that people have a second child? 0.83

01:03:17.320 Why does a woman who goes through this awful, awful childbirth have a second child? 0.99

01:03:24.360 Don't they always say the same thing? 0.99

01:03:26.020 If I remembered how bad this was, I wouldn't do it again.

01:03:29.520 Right?

01:03:31.220 So the not thinking about the effort is vital to actually the survival of humanity.

01:03:37.460 If we focused on how hard it was to have a baby, you just wouldn't do it.

01:03:41.520 You'd do too little of it.

01:03:43.160 But if you focus on how awesome it would be to have a family,

01:03:46.520 Well, there you go.

01:03:49.960 You're going to go through the pain because you've already committed.

01:03:55.740 You're going to go through the pain because you've already committed.

01:04:01.340 What if laziness is a habit of thinking about the cost of things or the effort

01:04:07.680 instead of thinking about the payoff?

01:04:12.500 The payoff.

01:04:16.520 Am I ambitious or do I simply have a thinking habit which produces dopamine because I'm

01:04:30.140 thinking about the positive outcome and is the dopamine the thing that gets me up and moving

01:04:34.100 and when you're observing me you say how the hell do you get so much done and how do I do it

01:04:39.820 I think it's just this I think it's just this when I think of all the things I did and I think about

01:04:45.860 them in terms of their benefits what if laziness is a habit of thinking about the cost of things

01:04:53.620 or the effort instead of thinking about the pale

01:04:57.300 pale

01:05:00.220 say it again 0.60

01:05:05.020 pale 1.00

01:05:06.120 get a few more heads to explode

01:05:10.980 so here's your tip it's going to change some of your lives

01:05:25.760 think about the positive not about the work and see what that does to you

01:05:33.020 love it marcella what's your cat's name leo leo so oh my gosh she knows you told her

01:05:49.020 so in my defense i originally thought she was a boy so i named her after the the the soccer player

01:05:57.380 after Lionel Messi found out that she's a girl who knew I mean listen it's 2026 all right you

01:06:05.260 guys thank you so so much so we'll be back tomorrow with Jesse Kelly thank you Jeff thanks

01:06:09.660 you guys uh say your goodbyes I don't want to cut anyone off and we will see you then bye guys

01:06:18.080 love you guys so much

01:06:27.380 Thanks you guys!

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - July 09, 2026

The Scott Adams School - 07⧸09⧸26 The Home Team & Jeff Callahan ruminate

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