00:19:35.820discrimination, racism, bigotry are not just accepted, they're widely endorsed. And it's
00:19:42.700easy to call forth that, that ire, you know, and, and the people of Springfield regularly tell me
00:19:48.220that that's why they believe that they were targeted. They were a vulnerable white working
00:19:52.440class community that could not organize, counter organize and defend itself. And of course, if you
00:19:57.480look at areas where the Haitians would have perhaps fared the best in America, Trotwood,
00:20:03.820Ohio, west of Dayton, northwest Dayton, approximately 80% African-American. The west
00:20:09.560side of Dayton, north of Dayton, this is just, you know, just a little ways over, parts of Norwood,
00:20:15.340just north of Cincinnati. These are very black areas. And by the way, across my demographics in
00:20:21.780the polling, approximately 80% of black Springfield residents support the Haitians.
00:20:28.460it's it's by it what do we have here we have tribalism we have racial identitarianism that's
00:20:35.820allowed to go one way of course uh and we see that of course the vast majority of anti-whites
00:20:41.760are are white um which is not a surprise uh and also we look at it's largely baby boomers
00:20:48.920it's baby boomer women who you know on a sunday morning why aren't you in church why aren't you
00:20:55.520going to church with your with your with your family why aren't you in church with your grandkids
00:21:00.100you know it's kind of what we wonder or at least at home your men's hair why is the men's hair
00:21:06.020longer than the women's hair folks what are we doing here listen sunday morning ladies you should
00:21:11.200at least be at home making pancakes for your man that's just my opinion um oh and go ahead
00:21:16.520well what strikes me is it seems like we you know we often talk about a two-tier justice system where
00:21:22.720the elites have a different standard that they're held to than regular Americans, but it seems like
00:21:27.980we really have a three-tier system where there's this new tier of illegals where none of the laws
00:21:33.900seem to apply to them. And, you know, we're starting to crack down on at least some of the
00:21:38.240major fraud that seems to be happening in that tier. But it just really seems striking to me
00:21:46.320that a completely different standard is applied to somebody who comes into the country illegally.
00:21:51.440They're not scrutinized the same way. They're not held to the same laws. They're not held to the same standards. They're given all sorts of free stuff. They're overlooked with all kinds of law enforcement. And I just don't understand why we're allowing this to happen.
00:22:04.720Yes, I think it is because of internalized anti-whiteness. I observed this and I picked
00:22:12.860up on this very explicitly in the 10 weeks I spent on the ground in Springfield earlier this
00:22:17.680year. And I've gone back a number of times for protests, for counter protests, for town halls,
00:22:23.420for additional interviews and whatnot. And several times a week, sometimes several times a day,
00:22:29.160I hear from a new Springfield resident with a new story. Like the latest one, I got texted a police
00:22:33.820report from a, from a father, um, Haitians have been trying to kidnap male Haitians attempting
00:22:39.360to kidnap his underage daughter. Uh, finally, finally, finally, after like the third attempt
00:22:44.580of a kidnapping of his, of his underage daughter, police finally showed up and did something.
00:22:48.940Uh, and you know, his fate was, they let him go. They let him go. So there's a, a, a sexual predator
00:22:54.780and this happens regularly. Unfortunately, there are a number of these stories of attempted
00:22:58.240abductions of, of, and it's always, always, always, always white children, um, that they're
00:23:04.620targeting the, the, the, the Haitians as part of this like trafficking ring or whatever or not
00:23:08.400they're doing. I also became aware of a credible report. I don't want to expose from who it was
00:23:14.320or, or what is involved, but I am led to believe that the Central American cartel, drug cartels
00:23:21.480have been hiring Haitians, male Haitian migrants, to be their mules in Clark County. So everyone
00:23:29.760is profiting off of the Haitian presence except for the white people. And every time I talk to
00:23:33.760them, you know what the first thing they say? I promise you I'm not racist, but. I promise I'm
00:23:39.180not racist, but. And then they will share the thing that happened to them and say, but I promise
00:23:44.240you I'm not racist. I would say this is about anyone. You could be from Iceland or Ireland.
00:32:52.260that their Haitian allies, they did not get along at all. And many returned traumatized in the same
00:32:57.580way that global war on terror veterans in Afghanistan, working with their allies, saw
00:33:01.800horrific, horrific conditions for women and children. And many of them, unfortunately,
00:33:09.760succumbed to suicide because they were ordered to protect this horrific abuse. But it's just
00:33:15.880their culture so it's okay and the story of the Haitians of Springfield is it's it's no not all
00:33:22.940cultures are created equal the reason Haiti is all of these things that it is is because Haitians
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00:34:01.760White people are not safe in Haiti. There's not a filmmaker who went there on a vacation and was
00:34:10.960document his experiences i cite this in the book and he befriends a number of haitians who
00:34:15.920immediately betray him uh kidnap him and attempt to extort him and his family out of a significant
00:34:21.840amount of money under pain of torture that's the white experience in haiti to this day and as i
00:34:30.080said before not all haitians okay okay for the internet i have to say not all not all haitians
00:34:37.280I would just say in support of what you're saying, that if you go on X right now, and you search with quotes, the phrase, I hate white people, you will see an endless stream of posts from people saying exactly that with very little other context.
00:34:52.900It's not I'm not like cherry picking out of context. Some of them will be that where they'll call out some bad behavior. But but a lot of them are just literally people saying I hate white people. And some of it will be conservatives calling it out to now. But like a lot of it is literally just somebody saying I hate white people. And I would guarantee without ever having done it, that if you go over to Blue Sky, it's probably even more.
00:35:15.540Oh, forget it. So you guys, Blue Sky is the counter platform to X. So X, when Elon took it
00:35:24.900over, the Democrat liberal crybabies were like, oh my God, we can't stay here. So they created
00:35:31.280Blue Sky and that's where they're doing their posting. So listen, it's fascinating. And
00:35:39.240i i just urge everybody to order uh joshua's book and um like let's keep following up with this
00:35:48.380and i do want to pivot if you guys don't mind because um i have some questions joshua it
00:35:55.980started because i was wait you guys interstitial sip everybody let's have a let's have a quick
00:36:01.180midway set here we go mm-hmm joshua i was scrolling your timeline and i don't know much
00:36:11.040about this lindsey i don't know her last name case where she may or may not have killed her
00:36:18.040three children there's a court case going on about it no i'm not saying it doesn't matter
00:36:22.420clancy is that clancy lindsey clancy okay so i don't want to get into that because it's just
00:36:28.920too much but i was like kind of giggling i'm like oh joshua's got like a theme going now on his
00:36:34.780timeline about like you know women and this and that and i was like listen i got these two guys
00:36:41.080here and you're both fathers but you are a father joshua to younger children and owen's kids are
00:36:51.340college and older. And so I thought, let's just see what is going on with the guys in the world
00:37:00.660right now and relationships. And I want the chat to get involved too and throw your answers in
00:37:07.280there and your opinions on all platforms. So I don't know, I was just giggling because it was
00:37:14.360making me think about, you know, Scott would get cynical a lot about relationships and marriage and
00:37:19.740Prisoner Island and all of these things. So I just have a few questions I want to ask to both
00:37:26.160of you. Okay. And if you guys want to, it's up to you, what kind of background do you want to give
00:37:31.360like your marital status, uh, the age of your kids or the gender of your kids? That's up to you.
00:37:38.160I mean, most of us have a general idea. Um, but I wanted to say, uh, I'll go to you first,
00:37:44.300owen um very simply do you think men are happier now than they were like 10 or 20 years ago
00:37:52.460which men are you asking about men or or in a particular generation biological no like the men
00:38:00.840today um in general do you think they're happier today than they were before no i don't um i mean
00:38:09.200I think to me, there's a lot of more division and I think some of it has come out of the
00:38:16.040political divide that, as Scott pointed out, you know, women went further left and more
00:49:49.100I think if I go back to like our show with King Randall, I think a lot of those types
00:49:54.720So things are important where just being productive, being useful, learning manners, learning how to interact with people, learning how to function in society and just getting on the right path.
00:50:07.840To me, that's probably what I would be focusing on with people under 15 is just getting them to the point where they are on a good track to become a productive adult.
00:50:16.500but other other than that i guess i would still be focused at least with my own kids if i had
00:50:21.200young kids like that again i'd be focused on just getting them prepared to either go to college or
00:50:26.820go into a trade or whatever the right path would be for them um but i still think i don't know in
00:50:33.160my opinion 15 is a little young to be focusing on like you're you got to get out of the house
00:50:37.300in a few years well there is some great advice happening in the chat over here especially from
00:50:43.220Mike Burt, but some of you have really good advice. I like it. Okay. And Joshua, what do
00:50:49.300you think? By the time the boys are 15, what's something that they really should grasp?
00:50:59.260There's a number of, let's say, boxes to check of understanding and also things that you may not
00:51:04.540quite understand yet, but you'll know that you need to understand before making that decision.
00:51:08.220i think so often in our society and our culture from via parents via the school system and
00:51:13.920entertainment and news media there's an expectation that you have to figure out your life by like 18
00:51:18.160or something like that in college etc etc etc it is it is my opinion that the vast majority of young
00:51:24.660men do they ought to go to college this is the opposite of the conservative uh social conservative
00:51:31.280position the trad cons but i'm not a trad con am i and the reason being it is in college where that
00:51:39.680that buys yourself a little bit of time in order to figure out a number of very very important
00:51:44.160things and so preparation for the period of preparation i believe is what is best for 15
00:51:51.920year olds um i think a little bit of pessimism and pragmatism will go a long way at this age
00:51:59.120of understanding, like, here's what the world's really going to be like. Here's what, for example,
00:52:04.880college is really going to be like. Here's what the economy is really like. Here is what the
00:52:11.480dating pool available to you is really like. And here's the good, here's the bad, and here's the
00:52:18.980ugly. That sense of awareness, but also some internal expectation of the direction I'm
00:52:26.840probably going to go so I can start setting myself up in that direction. Now I was homeschooled so I
00:52:31.880was a high school senior at 15. So from my perspective that's like senior and now you're
00:52:36.460looking on towards college at this point. Since I was about 10 years old I wanted to be a novelist
00:52:43.000and it turns out that that's exactly what I do to this day. But I realized that great non-fiction
00:52:49.100reads like fiction. Good fiction reads like non-fiction. So in The Great Twist of Irony I'm
00:52:54.140writing novels every single day and have written like 130 at this point. Nonfiction, right? But
00:52:58.800it has to read like fiction with the same compelling storytelling and narrative and blah,
00:53:02.720blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I would tell the 15 year old, what is it that you wanted to do
00:53:06.720since you were 10? And then expand that up into the adult economy and what people are going to pay
00:53:12.880for, it seems. And what's the direction that you might want to go? So in my case, I chose
00:53:19.360communications degrees because I would, I would be doing a lot of what? Writing practice on all
00:53:27.020manner of different subjects, essays and research and rhetoric and speech and debate I did at
00:53:32.140university. Like I, I, even though the substance of the classes wasn't particularly practical,
00:53:37.660it was a, almost like an apprenticeship for four years. I got an associate's degree and then a
00:53:44.080bachelor's degree. And the focus was basically writing for every single class on different
00:53:49.940subjects. So, and at the same time, I began freelance writing. And so doing this in academics,
00:53:58.660doing this professionally, I was a teenager when I started freelance writing and getting paid to
00:54:02.520write. That gave me a significant head start. So the 15 year old, I would say, what is it you've
00:54:09.620wanted to do since you were 10 and then what is the what is the minimum viable smallest scale
00:54:15.300way you can study that in university at a cheap university you can go to go to okay you're you're
00:54:22.000in southwest iowa go to cincinnati state you know community college okay it's fine it's fine pick
00:54:26.420pick public university okay you want to go to like you know wharton or whatever for for your for your
00:54:31.600your graduate okay that's fine but you don't have to go into in debt getting an ethnic studies degree
00:54:37.240from you know uh yale okay you don't gotta do it you can do it for for thousands um i was able to
00:54:43.320pay for the vast majority of my all of my college with scholarships academic scholarships and other
00:54:48.600stuff that were available and my mom put in a couple thousand dollars i think like two thousand
00:54:52.760dollars total is all that my family paid for my two degrees i the rest i covered with yeah it was
00:54:58.520like two thousand dollars for my first year i think everything else paid for the academic
00:55:02.680of scholarships because I picked the cheapest schools, right? And that's okay. That's okay.
00:55:10.500I believe that every young man needs to go to college because, in addition, you tend to meet
00:55:17.760the people that you can work for, work with, get you in at their workforce. My brother got set up
00:55:28.340on what at this point has been a decade plus long career track because one of his classmates
00:55:34.980got an internship and she kind of liked him and wanted to work with him because he's cute
00:55:40.260and then he gets a decade plus long career path from that josh never learned how to make a concise
00:55:47.060answer my profession is to turn 500 word blog posts into 50 000 word books you get what you pay for
00:55:53.620joshua what schools did you go to sinclair college in dayton wright state university
00:56:00.640also in in dayton which is a big engineering school there's
00:56:04.040it's i will say also without additional context it's the dallas fort worth airport
00:56:10.140wink wink wright state university is uh and then california state university long beach
00:56:15.120after that for my for the ghost their ghost writing program okay good um andy owen wants
00:56:21.480i mean handy is asking owen can owen talk about how he got recruited into the cia from college
00:56:29.960i was never recruited by the cia but my father was and uh according to my father he turned it down
00:56:37.320to marry my mother because they told him he couldn't get married for a certain number of
00:56:40.840years at least if he joined the cia but he was very close to taking the offer he was he had a
00:56:45.640proper position in the department of agriculture he was going to be a russian spy it was all set
00:56:50.680to go and then he uh backed out of it or that's the story i've been told my whole life that's your
00:56:56.600cover story that they gave you we get it he didn't he didn't work at the department of agriculture
00:57:01.100i'll say that so whatever his cover position supposedly was he never took that job so are
00:57:06.220you and tucker brothers tucker carlson's dad your dad no um oh my gosh all right you guys please i
00:57:16.900have a thousand questions but we only have time for one more quick question for each one of you
00:57:22.120um owen i'll start with you what and joshua you're going to get a different question okay
00:57:29.080owen quickly what is one thing you wish women understood about men
00:57:34.080owen you want to go first yeah that's a i mean it's a tough one i guess it's just that
00:57:40.980You know, we really do. I don't know. I mean, it's like some of it, I guess I would point to a lot of what Alison Armstrong has taught me about myself, that we go through these stages in life, that it's kind of like, you know, we want to become, we want to build our domain.
00:58:01.060We want to provide for that domain, but like have our, whether it's a career, a family,
00:58:08.100whatever it is, we want to, you know, build that and then have that be kind of our purpose
01:02:12.200But if we're trying to, like, one-up one another and then there's the inter-gender conflict, that's not going to happen.
01:02:21.400But the TLDR is that a woman's internal world affects her external world, and she doesn't need you to submit to her internal experiences because then who can she trust?