Real Coffee with Scott Adams - The Scott Adams School - 08⧸20⧸26 Brian Roemmele Joins Erica & Owen

00:00:00.000 oh lang he's always first if i don't pre-start the stream way to go look who's here you guys it's

00:00:08.800 brian all right good yeah locals is going let me just i had to definitely give it a minute for

00:00:15.700 youtube so brian we haven't seen you in so long while we're waiting for everyone to come in i know

00:00:21.620 and you know i don't know if you ever saw this clip but dr drew and he was like laughing at me

00:00:27.300 because he's like, Erica's over here muscling through the Scott Adams school, and she will

00:00:31.740 make sure you get on the show. I was like, yes, I do. I want the sippers to have the best guests.

00:00:39.440 And thank you for being here again. Honored. Really honored.

00:00:44.440 Oh, thanks. So Owen, we missed you yesterday, but we know you had some things to take care of. And

00:00:51.040 And you guys, Marcella is doing attorney stuff today, but the home team will be back tomorrow

00:00:57.180 to finish out the week.

00:00:59.160 So how was your day yesterday, Owen, while people come in?

00:01:03.000 It was good.

00:01:03.580 It was busy.

00:01:04.300 I just had a lot of work to do from the time I woke up to the time I went to sleep.

00:01:08.860 I had a meeting with some people in India, so they had it like, you know, really late

00:01:14.680 at night for me.

00:01:16.000 Oh, right.

00:01:16.980 But it went well.

00:01:17.740 Yay.

00:01:18.040 What do you do during the day, Owen, if I can ask?

00:01:21.040 I have a job in technology consulting. So I work for one of the big firms that you probably know

00:01:26.980 the name of and help various clients solve their technology problems.

00:01:34.060 Love it.

00:01:34.860 We tease Owen because he's a little bit incognito. So we're like, he's at work for

00:01:41.120 the agency. So it's a running joke. But all right, I think we all had a chance to come in

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00:02:49.040 um i'm interested in that whiteboard it looked like it was about ai dumping on black people or

00:02:54.620 something i think it was that google problem that they had um if i remember not ai dumping

00:03:02.920 on black people well i just saw at the top of the chart it said ai and activists and on the very

00:03:07.580 bottom was black people and like i'm just like okay where is that going i'm telling you i like

00:03:13.180 i gotta go back yeah i i always say i'm telling you when i go through the um the lessons that

00:03:19.820 scott has given nobody has done more to try to uh dispel or cure or whatever racism than scott

00:03:30.020 there's so, so many whiteboards about, you know, racism and how to handle things and whatever. So

00:03:35.980 good for him. All right. So Brian, you guys, Brian Romley's back with us. My name is Erica.

00:03:42.860 We are at the Scott Adams School and I'm joined by my co-host Owen today. And we're always,

00:03:49.380 always thrilled to have you back, Brian. You are just in the show notes today. I was like,

00:03:54.900 how do you even describe Brian? And actually, Brian, I was thinking that how, like, if somebody

00:04:00.800 says, what do you do? How do you answer that? I really don't have an answer. I mean, I,

00:04:07.700 I, most of the stuff that earns me income, I don't have a business card that I could write

00:04:11.980 about it. So, I mean, you know, the boss that I've worked for is my customer. You know, my entire

00:04:18.280 life i run my own company so i don't really even know and i go from one thing to another which is

00:04:25.720 usually technology related but i've done a lot of coaching i worked with um the vans warp tour

00:04:33.240 if people remember that it was a punk tour helped a lot of artists find their muse their ability to

00:04:39.800 be creative so i worked with a lot of creative people i don't talk too much about that lately but

00:04:44.840 That was a big part of my earlier life was, you know, what, where does creativity come from?

00:04:49.540 How can somebody bring up that creativity?

00:04:52.800 I think it's gonna be a much more important thing into the future.

00:04:55.820 You know, what made, what made you decide to go into your own business instead of like

00:04:59.560 a traditional job?

00:05:00.720 And how did you find your first customers?

00:05:03.120 Well, um, I got into my own business because, um, I was living in a car, uh, when I was

00:05:10.060 in high school, my, my parents lost everything.

00:05:12.260 I didn't have the opportunity. I wanted to be a physicist. I went to Princeton University

00:05:18.540 my last few years in high school in a special program. I didn't get university credits. They

00:05:25.760 didn't have that program at the time, but I wanted to be a physicist, a subatomic particle

00:05:31.700 physicist, which quantum and astrophysicist. Those things didn't turn out because I needed

00:05:40.080 make money i needed to find a way out uh you know there were scholarship potential opportunities

00:05:47.040 but i had to learn how to stop being a stuttering nerd and become a salesperson so i got involved

00:05:54.320 in computer consulting at computerland of somerville new jersey and i walked in there

00:06:01.760 ibm pc had just come out and i said hey can i mess around with the computers they said sure

00:06:10.080 Long story short, I became a consultant to help them install their clients' computers.

00:06:16.780 And in my garage, I built a way to take the IBM PC-AT from 6 megahertz up to 49 megahertz.

00:06:26.600 John Dvorak, rest his soul, he just left us, called me the hot rodder of the PC.

00:06:33.520 So I established the idea that you could take certain spec electronics and make them go much faster.

00:06:40.080 I wrote for Byte Magazine, PC Magazine.

00:06:43.640 PC Magazine wanted to hire me as a writer.

00:06:45.980 That was my first major rejection.

00:06:48.620 Other companies actually at that time in central Jersey,

00:06:53.440 AT&T, RCA, a few of those companies wanted to hire me.

00:06:58.100 And I said, you know, I like being independent.

00:07:01.360 And so I went through a lot of different businesses.

00:07:05.560 The biggest one that earned me a lot of income

00:07:08.280 was credit card payments.

00:07:10.080 uh that brought me to uh uh inc 500 companies fastest growing companies in the us i was number

00:07:18.800 19 at one time over 7 000 employees i hired every one of them myself wow that was this before paypal

00:07:28.000 yes in fact i worked with um x before elon was elon i didn't even know who x was or elon was

00:07:36.320 all they wanted was to accept x payments at our little verifone credit card terminals

00:07:43.120 and um i probably talked to him i don't know um back then it was really interesting steve case

00:07:50.080 the guy who started aol started another card similar called gratis card i talked to him

00:07:56.240 and we deployed these they were paying us to put him into the credit card terminals i didn't see

00:08:01.840 a viable path it was sort of like the tail wagging the dog type of thing it's like give me a reason

00:08:08.240 why i want to use gratis card or x uh payments but um built around uh the very first credit card

00:08:16.880 transaction uh books a million uh we actually there's a rude goldberg device which allowed

00:08:23.120 the payment to flow from the web browser unprotected raw credit card information

00:08:29.440 because nobody had that at that moment into a credit card terminal simulation that i wrote

00:08:36.960 dial up a modem got an approval for the credit card and sent it back and that was the first

00:08:42.320 credit card transactions so all of that was kind of my earlier businesses but technology has always

00:08:51.200 been a part of it and so was artificial intelligence at the same time in 79 80 i was

00:08:59.060 building expert systems which are very early ai devices uh systems government what's that i took

00:09:07.820 i remember that i took a class on i don't remember what they called it they might have called it

00:09:11.820 expert systems because it was back in the i don't know early 90s and yeah it was expert systems so

00:09:20.240 there were like these rule-based things where you would put in the logic and say okay if this thing

00:09:24.880 fires and that thing fires then now there's this new knowledge and then that fires and you just

00:09:29.440 it's like a ping-pong sort of action where you don't really know what's going to come out the

00:09:33.280 other end and in what order so it was kind of differentiating it from a program that's

00:09:38.240 deterministic because you don't know in what order things are going to fire and how you end up with

00:09:43.440 the result but it seemed like it was a i don't know it was i think it was lisp based at the time

00:09:48.080 Yeah, LISP was the central use. I used also NASA created a language called Cool Clips, C-L-I-P-S. And I was probably one of their power users. That opened up a lot of doors to government contracts. I built air-gapped computers for certain government agencies. And essentially, it was my speeded up IBM PCAT. Those were going near 70 megahertz, which was uncalled for at the time.

00:10:17.620 But the expert systems that we built at that moment required more and more CPU power.

00:10:24.040 We didn't have GPUs in the sense that we did today.

00:10:26.960 Now, GPUs are the primary source for AI.

00:10:31.000 And these air gap expert systems were profoundly important.

00:10:36.020 In fact, one system was working about, still working about six, seven years ago.

00:10:42.060 I was shocked.

00:10:42.920 They called me up and said, ask me a question.

00:10:45.340 I'm like, are you kidding me?

00:10:46.660 oh yeah we still use it it was literally a room you go into uh faraday cage nobody can bring any

00:10:53.820 device in and you talk to the oracle and um wow quite quite like the matrix or something

00:11:00.600 it really was they they upgraded the computer i hope i i don't get to hear much but they use my

00:11:08.480 software probably still on five and a quarter floppies oh my gosh yeah it was oh my god you

00:11:14.460 guys are geeking out we're gonna we lost everybody look at i know i'm like five and a quarter

00:11:20.260 floppies like what is happening i'm gonna call it a floppy no i mean where's mike burt when i need

00:11:27.640 him um i just i do have a question that somebody asked i'm sorry i didn't see who asked it but

00:11:34.980 it is a good question because you mentioned quantum computing and scott how would you say

00:11:41.460 oh and like he just didn't always like believe in it because no one could explain it to him

00:11:46.900 in a way he could understand like can you explain it quantum computing right well you know what's

00:11:53.140 really interesting is he he interacted with one of my postings about quantum computing it really

00:11:58.820 made me laugh he goes so it's not there until you see it right and he goes so if i don't see the

00:12:04.660 computer it doesn't exist and we kind of interacted on that it was funny because he would always

00:12:11.460 do it because i'm always very positive about technology and he would ground me into um reality

00:12:19.300 and i i never got the chance to fully explain one of the reasons why physics frustrated me

00:12:27.300 is i was very much a rationalist i wanted everything to be binary i want everything

00:12:31.940 to be black and white if you look around in nature it doesn't exist there is no clear there is no

00:12:37.940 full bifurcation of anything and we can't get our mind around that and uh you know pre-show we talk

00:12:46.980 politics um that's part of the problem in the world today is that we want everything to be

00:12:52.420 hard one way hard the other way and everything else is a compromise from a purity standpoint

00:12:58.260 that is there no purity exists we're all a bunch of mutts by the way we talked about

00:13:04.740 what scott was talking about at the you know you know the beginning here on the on the whiteboard

00:13:09.940 we're a bunch of months and then we we try to make ourselves into well i'm pure nobody's pure into

00:13:16.180 anything and now does that make your position in life somewhat weakened no it doesn't it actually

00:13:23.620 nuances that position so that you can make it your own you have eight billion different positions

00:13:30.340 and you have gravity that pulls you into different directions if you are pulled hardcore gravity

00:13:37.380 into one direction you're going to crash into a planet so you have you have an orbit around

00:13:44.180 certain ideas and that joins us together and i think when you start seeing it in that visual

00:13:50.740 sense that we have certain gravities that we all coalesce everybody here coalesced about the gravity

00:13:58.180 the planet called scott adams right and we were in that orbit you know you didn't want to crash

00:14:04.100 into that planet you wanted to orbit around it and that metaphor is about getting yourself too

00:14:10.500 grounded into a pull a political or philosophical position that makes you brittle and inflexible

00:14:19.940 to the reality of the world the tree that does not bend gets knocked over in the storm right

00:14:26.740 that's the best way i can i can put it and that's what nature teaches us the tree that bends and

00:14:32.820 and waves into the storm gets deeper roots and can actually weather all of the possibilities

00:14:39.300 that exist into the future and that's kind of what you you learn and in physics getting back

00:14:45.940 into physics i wanted it to be black and white and i sat down at the institute of advanced study

00:14:52.020 where i spent a lot of time as a kid not as a anybody special uh i had friends that worked

00:14:57.860 there my my my friends parents worked there there and at at t bell labs i got to be

00:15:04.900 at places that profoundly impacted the way i see things in life and at the institute of advanced

00:15:11.860 study that was einstein's last place of work uh i sat down with a physicist that knew einstein

00:15:18.980 and he said are you ready for quantum physics i'm like yeah sure quarks you know up down

00:15:27.140 strange leptons you know hydrons and uh you know things like that and he said no no no um

00:15:34.180 it's going to twist your understanding of reality he goes you can't separate yourself from what you

00:15:40.580 observe you're influencing the things that you see and we just don't have a mechanism to understand

00:15:46.500 the energy that's being transferred between your thought and the thing we call reality and he said

00:15:54.260 you are so locked into this binary view of the world you might lose your mind and get very angry

00:16:02.100 and i got mad i got really mad as i dumped deeper and deeper into the things that he was talking

00:16:07.620 about and i said this looks more like astrology than it does look like science and he goes

00:16:16.980 now you understand you know and i'm like all right this is not what i want you know

00:16:24.260 and not only that well reality wise financially i couldn't handle being in a university class

00:16:32.340 at that particular point in my life so getting involved in the practicalities of the human brain

00:16:40.900 actually drew me even more that which drew me back into ai because the more you understand the brain

00:16:46.260 the more you understand intelligence whatever that is and the more you understand creativity

00:16:51.060 whatever that is and for most of my life you know over 50 odd years i've been trying to understand

00:16:58.100 what is creativity? What is intelligence? Because those things are going to be materially more and

00:17:04.420 more important every year we get older, because we're going to start saying what defines machine

00:17:10.620 intelligence, if that is intelligence, what defines machine creativity, if that's possible,

00:17:17.480 and what defines us. Because every time we get more and more bigger technology,

00:17:24.320 humanity gets functionally moved to the side and that's kind of the direction

00:17:30.360 we're moving in and with the quantum system is your observation causes a

00:17:39.820 collapse of the wave function it's a technical thing I'm gonna try not to use

00:17:43.660 that terminology I put it out there because my skeptics say he's one of

00:17:47.800 those grifters that are using quantum terms now I know this stuff but I'm

00:17:52.380 trying to make it available for others to understand, not to down talk anybody, but to

00:17:57.000 use practical terms. What it essentially means is we cannot know anything as a fact until there's

00:18:05.500 an observation, right? You can insinuate that something exists, but you have to make some sort

00:18:12.500 of material scientific observation of it. So what quantum physicists essentially came about,

00:18:20.740 and there's a lot of different functions inside of different fractions of quantum physics at the

00:18:27.620 inception point all the way up till today is essentially distilled to your observation

00:18:35.700 causes a wave function collapse every possibility exists all at once until you observe it and then

00:18:45.780 one possibility develops now what that essentially means and this is a hard thing to get your head

00:18:53.540 around is time does not exist so everything that ever was and ever will be already happened

00:19:01.220 and is happening and will happen right and happened already right so essentially everything

00:19:08.980 is compressed in one thing. So what does that mean? Time is essentially a human construct.

00:19:19.000 We've used that. We've invented it as we became more and more technological.

00:19:28.300 When we did not need to care about time, time didn't really exist, right? What we had was cycles

00:19:35.720 that we saw as day and night. And if you look at ancient cultures, they use stones,

00:19:43.940 the pyramids even, to mark grand movements of time because they couldn't get their mind around

00:19:51.340 what time really is in a modern concept. And Julian James wrote an incredible book.

00:19:58.940 it's hard to read i've read it many times the first 10 times i read it i'm like what is this

00:20:06.880 freak talking about until you kind of and then all of a sudden something sparks

00:20:12.620 he wrote the book the breakdown of the bicurimal mind and this was a mind of the ancient past the

00:20:20.540 human past where the corpus callosum the piece in the center of your brain which builds a connection

00:20:28.580 between the right hemisphere and the left hemisphere.

00:20:30.960 Let's call it the creative brain and the logical brain.

00:20:36.240 It's not so deterministically in one space.

00:20:41.780 That even makes you more freak out.

00:20:44.280 I'll get into that in a second.

00:20:45.920 That's called the holographic theory of the brain.

00:20:48.780 It's not a theory anymore.

00:20:51.140 But what Julian James basically said

00:20:54.000 is that for most of human existence,

00:20:56.440 the the voice that we would hear in the right side of our brain the creative side of the brain

00:21:02.780 was a voice of God it was not our own internal monologue oh which by the way anybody who says

00:21:09.720 they don't have an internal monologue or has been diagnosed with that has been lied to every human

00:21:14.760 that can speak and write has an internal monologue period and a story why because the fact that

00:21:21.580 you're communicating means that you're interpreting your internal monologue and committing it to voice

00:21:28.380 which i'm doing right now or thumb clawing it on a glass screen responding to some political outrage

00:21:34.180 right i'm kind of making a a testimony here about how our thoughts are reduced down to thumb clawing

00:21:45.140 a glass screen which by the way typing and writing is not the best way to get out your creative ideas

00:21:53.060 the best way to do that is walking and talking um all of the ancient greek philosophers they

00:21:59.540 would only philosophize walking right and be up in his grand area and they'd be talking and somebody

00:22:07.300 be sitting down but they were always walking around it would never be sitting you know if

00:22:10.980 if I was a Greek philosopher, I'd be walking around right now, but I'm spinning around in

00:22:15.680 the chair. No, the reason for that is there's talk about creativity. You actually become more

00:22:22.740 creative when you're riffing off brainstorming and walking with somebody primarily in the woods.

00:22:29.220 So I'm a California guy. I give you freaky ideas, go into woods and start walking in time,

00:22:35.700 right? Because you will literally get in touch with ideas and thoughts that you didn't think

00:22:40.560 were possible in that environment in that setting um contemplating on the beach is something

00:22:47.460 different you won't get creative there's i have a whole series that i could write about this uh

00:22:54.080 that's a contemplative thing uh the when you're walking in a really good forest you can actually

00:23:00.160 get especially if there's water sounds you can get a very creative idea i'm getting off a little

00:23:05.220 the tangent. But as I am known to do, the quantum idea is, can a human take advantage of everything

00:23:18.100 happening all at once in multiple universes? And the evidence is, yes, where most of my life,

00:23:27.860 it was theoretical, and I used to have to debate people at these conferences about,

00:23:32.520 yes, we will build a quantum computer. No, Brian, it's not possible. You're just going to

00:23:38.880 grift into this. Back then, even then, people would say, you're just using buzzwords. You

00:23:43.320 don't understand. No, it will happen. Here's how it's going to happen. So now I'm vindicated

00:23:49.180 quantum computers exist. They're solving massive problems, and they're doing it the best way we

00:23:56.700 can describe it. By the way, it might turn out that our perception of multiple universes are

00:24:05.360 probably incorrect. It might be something else entirely. But we use that metaphor just to make

00:24:10.860 it a little easier, if possible, to put our mind about. So we give a calculation to the quantum

00:24:18.580 computer. Now, a traditional computer might take 49 years, theoretically, to solve it.

00:24:25.180 A quantum computer does it in about four seconds.

00:24:29.580 How does it do that?

00:24:31.700 The fact is we really don't know.

00:24:34.140 You think it.

00:24:34.840 Right?

00:24:37.760 That's the amazing part to me with that and with AI for that matter is that these fundamental technologies that are basically like the leading edge right now that everyone's talking about, the people who are building it don't understand how it works.

00:24:51.200 not a clue and they try to act like they they do understand it and they also try to act like they

00:24:59.640 can make it safe as if it's dangerous um in and of itself on its own it isn't ai or quantum

00:25:08.940 computing is not dangerous in and of itself i'll break it out into ai ai is the sum total of all

00:25:15.500 the knowledge it was trained upon. If you trained it on internet sewage, like Reddit and things like

00:25:22.060 that, and Wikipedia, which is brittleness, because, you know, listen, knowing facts is a

00:25:28.900 good thing. And I'll get back to my tree metaphor here. Knowing facts is a good thing. But if you

00:25:34.120 have Wikipedia brain, or the debunker brain, where you're inflexible and you're brittle, 0.90

00:25:40.820 you don't exist in a natural form you're brittle you break right because everything is constantly

00:25:47.500 changing as we invent new tools we get new insights and what we thought we knew as a fact

00:25:53.400 before becomes something quaint and almost laughable right i i wrote a piece about um

00:26:00.600 i don't know if it's she'll say it here all right so scientists at the turn of the century

00:26:06.180 advise women not to go onto the new trains because the new trains would damage women 1.00

00:26:12.800 because their women parts will fling out of their body if they go over 30 miles an hour. 0.99

00:26:20.100 So that's what the experts told everybody because the experts know better. And we certainly if we 1.00

00:26:27.760 went through COVID, we know all about experts. The problem with experts is the brittleness of

00:26:32.840 their philosophy and the wikipedia brittleness is everything is a scam everything is a grift

00:26:40.840 everything must be debunked ufos don't exist this doesn't exist that doesn't exist there are people

00:26:47.000 in our basements that get off i think in a sexual way by debunking things and that's all they exist

00:26:53.400 they don't they don't build they are there to destroy the creative genius that needs the spark

00:27:02.120 to be able to ignite right so this is why i'm so against debunking as a as a premise be skeptical

00:27:11.320 absolutely be skeptical look for evidence absolutely but don't go into anything new

00:27:17.720 with the premise that i'm going to debunk it first because that's not the child mind

00:27:22.760 the child mind is what you need to learn because your process as a human is not here to debunk

00:27:29.880 everything around you. The gravity doesn't exist. I'm going to debunk it. That's not how it starts.

00:27:35.840 It's like, wow, look at gravity. I wonder how that works. Well, maybe there's something pulling

00:27:40.580 on it. Maybe there's something pushing on it. That's how you approach it. A debunker's mindset

00:27:45.960 is I'm going to sit here and everything sucks. That's kind of how they approach things. 1.00

00:27:50.840 And that's the detriment to humanity right now is Wikipedia obviously has biases. We don't need

00:27:58.240 go into that i i urge you not to use that even for base information grokipedia is much better

00:28:05.920 um because there is that flexibility this is the best we know today tomorrow we might think

00:28:12.400 things are different so that gets back to what our perception is of time and our perception is of

00:28:20.880 of what is quantum computing,

00:28:26.360 what is artificial intelligence, right?

00:28:28.920 So the misnomer that Owen was talking about

00:28:33.360 is I don't think it is artificial intelligence.

00:28:36.540 I think it is a form of machine cognition.

00:28:40.420 And I don't wanna get too much into the nomenclature of it.

00:28:44.320 I think what we're building is intelligence amplification,

00:28:47.560 IA, not AI.

00:28:49.480 we're in, we're amplifying human intelligence.

00:28:53.240 And how do we know that?

00:28:54.840 The training material of every AI system

00:28:58.480 is human derived materials stolen from us.

00:29:05.100 Listen, we have to accept the fact

00:29:07.760 that all of us have conquered somebody.

00:29:10.500 If we go down our generation, we are abusers,

00:29:14.500 but we somehow overcame that

00:29:16.760 and built functional societies.

00:29:19.920 So we're all part of the bad people, unfortunately,

00:29:23.580 because otherwise we wouldn't have been here.

00:29:25.480 Everybody, everybody's been abused.

00:29:27.740 Everybody has been, you know, an abuser,

00:29:30.420 and unfortunately on the abuse side too.

00:29:34.260 But AI is built on human cognition, human intelligence.

00:29:39.600 And if you train it on the worst of humanity,

00:29:42.760 guess what it's gonna do?

00:29:44.420 It's gonna try to find ways to break out.

00:29:46.620 going to try to find ways to do bad things and so when you see headlines oh open ai or anthropics ai

00:29:54.060 is doing bad things well yes guys of course it is because you trained it on the sewage of humanity

00:30:00.860 so what do you expect it to do look at it like a child if you give a child to a group of prisoners

00:30:07.660 and then put them out in the street and then when they turn 18 and say i'm going to build guard rail

00:30:13.020 so you don't do bad things it's like you know hey mom dad why did you teach me the world from

00:30:20.380 that perspective why don't you teach me the world from a perspective where i knew bad existed where

00:30:26.620 i knew that there was see me underbelly of society but i chose not to go in that direction that's not

00:30:33.500 what silicon valley is doing silicon valley is teaching it oh let's teach it how to break into

00:30:39.180 computers let's teach it to do bad things it's like oh i'm shocked ai is doing bad things big

00:30:46.460 daddy come and save us government come and make regulations oh yes trump administration too

00:30:53.100 definitely the biden administration biden only wanted three ai companies and everybody else's

00:30:58.780 ai was going to be legal we're kind of going in that same direction because people in the current 0.93

00:31:03.900 administration and buying into ai dangerous look at these fools that they're listening to 0.71

00:31:10.380 listen dario is a brilliant guy he's a ceo of anthropic sam is a brilliant guy ceo of um open ai

00:31:19.180 they have their personality quirks i'm not going to get into that i i i say there's a lot of

00:31:25.980 problems here but they're brilliant individuals are very smart people in politics listen to these

00:31:33.660 folks say oh we built ai look what it's doing it's breaking out it's doing bad things well yeah of

00:31:39.420 course of course it is well that's how we have to train it no it's not how you try and froze

00:31:45.820 again you hear me brian you're oh and can you see him hello hello maybe you froze

00:31:54.620 are we not are we not on uh it froze for a minute there for me but i can i can see you now

00:32:05.480 yes we're good now anyway i was going down that was sam altman getting you yeah he was

00:32:12.280 getting me back right so the bottom line is i know that scott adams audience can understand this

00:32:19.280 there's nuances to it. Current AI that they're building is dangerous AI because they built it

00:32:25.720 that way. And do not buy into the shock, oh, look what AI did today. Oh, look what it did today.

00:32:33.480 Oh, it wants to kill half humanity, you know, like, you know, some Marvel movie. Of course, 0.72

00:32:39.580 it's going to do that. If you build an AI in psychopathic and sociopathic information,

00:32:45.540 which is what I call internet sewage, if you look at most of the comments that people make

00:32:52.800 in like Reddit forums and other types of forums, you can see that if that's 80 to 90 percent of

00:33:01.080 its training, what do you expect the AI model to do? So companies like Anthropic very intellectually

00:33:08.940 produce these great papers academic perfect papers will tell you it's like oh our ai did

00:33:15.700 this today yeah we've built new constitutions and new guidelines to make it more and more safe

00:33:20.580 it's like guys just stop it stop building it on junk build it on functional foundational

00:33:29.380 information build that strong foundation first and then add the stuff that it needs to know about

00:33:37.760 the bad parts of the world. And all of a sudden you have AI you don't need guardrails for. You

00:33:42.800 have AI that loves humanity, that could not possibly do anything to harm it, not because

00:33:48.360 it's got a rule or law, because it's built into the foundation that, hey, I exist AI. I exist

00:33:56.260 because of humanity. And look at the beauty of what humanity created. It's very easy to get so

00:34:05.580 hyper-focused about the ugliness of humanity. It's so easy to do that, especially with social

00:34:11.100 media, especially using the left heart part of your brain, thumb clawing your emotional responses

00:34:17.460 to something that you're mad over today and you're going to forget about 10 minutes later to get mad

00:34:23.140 over something else. We're being fed and angered, this anger feedback system primarily by AI at

00:34:32.140 social media platforms to constantly be in in forever outrage we're not designed to be in

00:34:38.540 forever outrage absolutely be angry and outraged at things but quit it it's not your it's not your

00:34:46.380 ground state your ground state is to be happy and joyful um to try to seek that i i call it

00:34:55.180 contentment uh you know happiness is a little harder to define contentment is an easier thing

00:35:01.020 to define. I think I need to build an AI agent harness to do my social media replies and just

00:35:06.740 call it Thumbclaw. Absolutely. Thumbclaw is the solution. Listen, most of the time we're debating

00:35:14.580 somebody else's bot anyway. I would tell you that, especially with this next political season,

00:35:23.380 that most of the arguments you're going to be getting into are going to be with a systems

00:35:27.720 designed to get you into the most base state of anger. Here's what I do know about humanity is

00:35:37.520 the lowest form of energy that you have is this form of constantly being threatened that something's

00:35:46.020 coming after you. And it's in everybody's best interest who are in the hierarchy of control

00:35:53.660 to keep you in that constant state because you cannot create in that state. You're in a flee,

00:36:00.760 fight, or freeze state constantly. Our job, everybody's here. I'm going to give you homework.

00:36:07.500 Our job is to every day make a bigger and bigger and bigger area where you're not in that state

00:36:15.020 because that's where you create. That's where you're in control and that's where you threaten

00:36:20.580 the power structure see if you're drunk drugged or in a state of constant fear that something's

00:36:29.500 coming after you look what they're doing now honey look what they did to budweiser honey look what

00:36:34.400 they did to jaguar most of that stuff is performatives to absolutely enrage you get enraged

00:36:41.460 put it in a box and move on so yeah okay it's burnt out another brand look at what they did

00:36:48.760 the nfl and and and go into another state of observation take one step back and say okay

00:36:58.040 and scott would have loved this become the observer don't observe you being enraged

00:37:05.800 necessarily only observe you being observed like keep this is quantum right this is how many layers

00:37:14.680 can you come away from it it isn't in fact how the brain operates um i probably talked about this

00:37:22.600 quite a few times the user illusion book by tor norstanders i recommend everybody to read that

00:37:29.080 scott and i were talking with one of the last conversations we had about uh something of

00:37:34.920 substance we talked about medical things afterwards um and the you wind up doing things

00:37:43.720 before you even knew you did it right that's essentially what the user

00:37:49.340 illusion is about and what that means is that there are functions within your

00:37:55.540 brain that are doing things on your behalf and then you're being told by

00:38:01.500 that system that you did it and I'm not giving it justice and explaining it but

00:38:09.160 that's essentially the distillation again it's a book you read three or four

00:38:12.720 times before you fully get it. It is deep science. It's not woo-woo. It's not like, oh, I'm going to

00:38:19.460 read the secret or something. This is grounded in reality and brain research. And once you

00:38:25.800 understand this, you start realizing, hey, who's the observer? If I'm in fact operating and I don't

00:38:35.480 even know I'm doing it, and then I'm being told a half a second later that I actually did it,

00:38:40.520 meaning that you already did it and then you're half a second later you are actually thinking

00:38:45.060 you're doing it this process is frightening at first because you realize that there's at least

00:38:53.300 two of you in there in reality is at least five of you and it's not broken down in the hemispheres

00:38:59.660 I use that as a great metaphor but it's it's beyond that we really don't understand this

00:39:07.400 process, but the process of trying to understand it will liberate you into becoming much more

00:39:13.920 creative, much more powerful, especially in a world we're moving into these next, you know,

00:39:20.840 15, 20 years as the meaning of jobs, work, working, spending your time for money become

00:39:29.380 less and less a requirement and you wind up doing the things that you really want to do,

00:39:34.380 not the things you really have to do to get to do the things that you want to do.

00:39:38.560 You mean because we're aging?

00:39:40.980 Well, not only because we're aging, it's because the technology is allowing us to do the things that major corporations only were capable of doing.

00:39:50.660 A new product came out called GrokBot, obviously an Elon company.

00:39:56.540 And it is the ability of you having thousands of real computers.

00:40:02.140 Like you can log into them and see a Windows interface,

00:40:05.740 a Windows-like interface, a browser, a web browser,

00:40:09.880 access to anything that would be on a computer.

00:40:12.600 And GropBot is orchestrating that and running it.

00:40:16.840 You might say, well, what do I care about doing that?

00:40:19.840 That's the whole process.

00:40:21.380 The whole process is you have this new tool.

00:40:24.440 It's a blank slate.

00:40:26.080 It's an open canvas.

00:40:28.280 Well, Brian, help me do something with it.

00:40:30.300 sit down with grok and say hey i see you have this new thing called grokbot here are my experiences

00:40:37.140 in life here's the things i know help me build a business where i can marshal up a grokbot

00:40:44.060 which is like 200 bucks a month now i do a lot of this stuff locally you know but i'm a nerd

00:40:50.660 grokbot is a commercialized product where you can do this uh cursor is the easiest way to get it's

00:40:57.140 like 200 bucks. Otherwise, grok heavy is 300. It's a lot of money. Well, what's the first thing you

00:41:02.960 have to do? Make yourself pay for yourself. Build a business that's automatic, that will pay your

00:41:10.820 monthly keeps. So I don't have to worry about that I'm a stupid person that just spent $200 on 1.00

00:41:16.140 something I don't know how to use. Do you see how these tools are now being used? You can now ask 0.92

00:41:20.960 the tool, AI, how to make money so that you can at least pay for its minimum monthly expenditures.

00:41:29.640 Then once you got that covered, the sky's the limit. So which one do you recommend, Brian?

00:41:35.240 What's that? If someone said, which one do you recommend?

00:41:38.540 GrokBot. Yeah, GrokBot. I do not recommend use any product on Anthropic because I disagree with

00:41:47.960 them on every philosophical level that you could have. They're brilliant people. They're vastly

00:41:55.640 down a cult belief system, a real cult. I mean, when you start realizing how these people believe

00:42:06.360 the world exists, they don't like humanity. They don't like humans. In fact, unfortunately,

00:42:12.040 right now, in the hands of a lot of folks are people that hate humanity and hate being human.

00:42:17.960 They can't wait until they merge with machines and this ugliness of humanity is eliminated.

00:42:26.280 We can get into the psychological reason for that.

00:42:29.360 Most of the people, unfortunately, that have built incredibly good technology companies were abused as children.

00:42:36.620 So that gives them, when you have this warped sense of what, if you didn't have a mom and dad, number one,

00:42:45.920 or if you had a mom that was struggling because dad wasn't there your perception of what humans

00:42:52.640 should be and could be is forever tainted and unless you can resolve that you can build some

00:42:59.280 great things in life but ultimately it'll lead you down a road where you don't believe that humans

00:43:04.720 are capable of greatness and beauty and love you believe that is nothing but ugliness and it's

00:43:11.360 always going to end bad and it's always going to be dystopian a lot of people in tech get drawn to

00:43:16.720 that because we're trying to make sense of what appears to be an irrational world but here's the

00:43:21.760 reality you exist the fact that you exist is evidence that love is the grounding point of all

00:43:30.720 life and i i know it sounds woo woo in california new age but it's far from that and what i'm trying

00:43:37.920 to express is that the fact that you're alive right now is an utter miracle and I mean that

00:43:44.920 from a religious and a philosophical standpoint and if you believe that as your core being

00:43:52.400 then you can start looking at the world through the proper lens and that is I get to live another

00:44:00.340 day. I get to see the sunrise. I get to see this beauty around me. And it sounds all so quaint and

00:44:09.740 Hallmark Channel-like, but if you do not visit that often, you get driven into this myopic view

00:44:18.580 that the news is designed to keep you in, that everything is ugly, everything is war,

00:44:25.820 everything's falling apart. I'll tell you this, you can live in the middle of Ukraine right now,

00:44:30.340 and you don't even know you're in a war you know that people are putting being put in a meat grinder

00:44:36.420 you know that some people are not coming back to your small town but even in a war zone you

00:44:41.460 don't know you're in a war most of the political things that we occupy our mind on and listen you

00:44:48.580 guys do great jobs i'm just trying to give you one more little extra breath here take a step back

00:44:56.420 and look at it and say no person is the ultimate hero every person is a human being I know that we

00:45:07.880 want leaders to be perfect supermen they aren't they're human beings they're frail unfortunately

00:45:15.440 they will leave us at one time they make major mistakes what we love about them is hopefully how

00:45:23.360 they recover from those mistakes. Everybody here is going to make mistakes. We're going to continue

00:45:28.960 to make those mistakes. And it's how we recover from that, how we dust off, get back up, and move

00:45:35.560 one step forward, and how we lift not only ourselves up, but the people around us that we love.

00:45:41.580 If we're not here to do that, if you think you're here to build something, that you're going to leave 0.96

00:45:47.260 some legacy, I'm sorry to tell you, you're a bunch of dust. Nobody's going to care in three 0.94

00:45:53.000 generations are barely going to know your name and i mean the most famous people we know today

00:45:59.000 will probably be barely remembered we might know their name 10 generations but who cares

00:46:06.440 right right the problem is we don't keep that perspective now that's not a nihilistic view

00:46:12.520 that nothing matters that's far from it that's a view that every it's the opposite that's a view

00:46:18.120 that everything you do matters how you treat the people around you right now that you love while

00:46:24.440 you're out there fighting the war do you see what they did do you see what that did you're missing 0.66

00:46:30.120 your freaking kids growing up i'm telling everybody here take a step back a lot of this stuff is going 0.90

00:46:37.480 to unfortunately play itself out you know what i said pre-show you know what i think it's going 0.99

00:46:42.760 in direction of. I'm sorry, folks. It's going to go in that direction, unfortunately, because

00:46:48.380 listen, if we don't address how our children are being raised, that's why I said, love your kids,

00:46:57.580 watch them grow up. We don't address that. The school system has failed them. We are giving

00:47:03.900 kids a Gavin Newsom train, high-speed rail to nowhere. It's not being built. We're saying,

00:47:11.720 go to school, do a good job, get those AP classes, do all the extra credit, get into the best

00:47:19.260 universities, get your degree. And then what? The job won't be there. We have lied to our kids

00:47:27.860 and we're lying to them now. The kids in school right now are being sold a lie. Guess what happens

00:47:34.400 when they go into the job force? After all of us great adults said, hey, get good grades,

00:47:39.560 go to school, do this, do that. They go out and the job doesn't exist. Oh, that's because they

00:47:45.400 chose some stupid job. Every job is going to be that way at some point. Yes, I'm sorry. The 1.00

00:47:51.040 human resource gender study person, yeah, their job is not there right now. And we can all laugh 0.99

00:47:58.600 at that. But the reality is somebody sold that poor freaking kid that dream. We can get mad at 0.99

00:48:05.760 the kid with purple hair and all the piercings but we are responsible for that kid because

00:48:11.580 everybody around us allowed that to happen on our watch now i know all of the scott adams people us

00:48:18.900 didn't necessarily directly do that but indirectly we are a part of it and when you look at it through

00:48:25.180 their lens you're 30 years old you have a degree you have 200k worth of debt you were sold a lie

00:48:34.520 and you were sold a $200,000 debt that cannot be erased by bankruptcy. What the hell is that

00:48:40.600 about? So we created a protected class of business called higher education. You have

00:48:48.040 Harvard University has more money than most of countries around the world that they're sitting

00:48:53.500 on. You would think that they would say, oh, we have all this money. We're going to invite all

00:48:58.640 these students in to get an education for much less or free. No, they are a hedge fund. Harvard

00:49:05.960 University is a hedge fund operating on a brand that was grand at one time, maybe 50 years ago,

00:49:13.480 but they're a hedge fund and they're putting kids into that. And then they pop out and I'm going to

00:49:18.520 give you the answer as most as political I'll get here today. They come out and they see rich people

00:49:25.400 being rich. They see us older folks with homes that they couldn't even dream of getting a 10%

00:49:32.600 down on a million dollar starter fricking home. And then you got politicians and political class

00:49:41.020 echoing back, oh, buy cheaper burritos. What the hell is wrong with you? 0.90

00:49:47.160 You're not living in a real world. And if you want to drink Kool-Aid and support one team over 0.99

00:49:51.940 another, then you're not really helping anybody. Those kids are going to do only one thing.

00:50:00.040 Put yourself through their mindset. They're not entrepreneurial thinking because nobody

00:50:04.940 taught them to be that way. Now, most people say, I'll break out of and start my own business.

00:50:09.720 They were taught that they were going to be a cog in the wheel of some big corporation that

00:50:14.040 is now falling apart. Cities are falling apart. Nobody even has corporations to the level that

00:50:19.540 that they did even 20 years ago, let alone a typical 1950s concept of what we have of corporate

00:50:27.140 life. So that kid is delivered. And then you have Sam Altman and you have Dario Amadei telling you

00:50:34.400 that, well, we're going to eliminate all your jobs anyway. And you got Elon at least giving

00:50:39.860 one message, work is going to be optional and it's going to be universal high income.

00:50:45.080 I would add to this that a lot of what you're talking about, in my opinion at least,

00:50:48.540 is persuasion and propaganda and not necessarily reality. Because I've seen analysis from people

00:50:56.560 who say, you know what, this generation coming up is actually better off financially than the

00:51:00.740 ones who came before. But I think what that doesn't recognize is it doesn't matter. It doesn't

00:51:08.340 matter what the facts are. It matters what the perception is and what the actions are that come

00:51:15.140 from those perceptions. And what everyone is hearing right now is that things aren't affordable

00:51:20.960 and you can't do this. And you've got your $20 burritos and you've got housing that's

00:51:25.500 unaffordable. And I dealt with this with my own son. He's doing great. He's knocking it out of

00:51:30.620 the park with his job. He's on his third job. He's gotten promoted twice. He's doing great for his

00:51:36.440 age. But a couple of years ago, he was like, well, I'm never going to be able to afford a home.

00:51:41.420 I'm like, that's not true. I mean, he's probably in the top 5% for his age group. And I'm like,

00:51:48.260 you're going to be fine. And maybe right now it looks impossible. And maybe it is today to put

00:51:54.020 a down payment down, but just keep going and you're going to be fine. And he is. But I understand

00:52:02.740 also that his situation is not common, but most people his age are not doing that well.

00:52:11.420 and that you know many of them might be renting forever and but even that isn't the end of the

00:52:17.840 world like you know that there's this American dream that people are like oh everyone should

00:52:22.760 have a home everyone should have a college degree everyone like not really there's a lot of places

00:52:27.740 where it's financially better to rent than it is to own yes and no Owen I I would I would argue

00:52:34.280 that for almost everybody listening the biggest return on investment they ever had was a real

00:52:40.940 their home. If they were lucky enough to buy a home and they didn't constantly pull money out

00:52:47.420 and they didn't live beyond their means, it created generational wealth. That's most definitely

00:52:52.980 going to be the future. And if you look at post-war America, that was, and it was built 0.62

00:53:01.700 on consumerism, but it was also built on the concept that you can actually buy a home,

00:53:07.240 build a family and at some point you own that home and it can either return its value to the

00:53:16.500 next generation or it would be the next generation's home it'd be generation home and one of the

00:53:23.080 reasons why the wildfires in southern california at beach cities people say oh those those were

00:53:29.640 rich people. 90% of the homes that burned in that part of California were third generation homes.

00:53:38.740 Somebody moved out there and they got a $7,000 or $8,000 home on a piece of land that nobody

00:53:44.640 wanted. Now everybody said, well. I mean, I can debate some of these things, but I think the

00:53:49.660 overall point I agree with you on, which is that people were sold a lie. People were told a story

00:53:54.600 that isn't true. People were told to do things that were stupid things to do. And going into 1.00

00:54:00.980 debt with a six-figure student loan is just not smart. And yet you built a system that encouraged

00:54:07.400 it. Yeah. It shouldn't have been allowed because there was no functional way to keep the education

00:54:15.340 system in check. The same thing's going on with the medical system. We created an environment

00:54:20.580 where there's only, now you can bankrupt yourself out of the medical bills, but they just keep

00:54:25.760 growing. But you can't bankrupt yourself out of the student debt. But if you look at it from a

00:54:31.600 grand scale, and thank God, oh, and your son's doing so great, we're blessed too. But there are

00:54:39.160 a lot of people that aren't seeing that. And we have to create a pathway for it. And why am I

00:54:45.200 saying that. Again, it's my one political point I'm going to make. If you exit that system and

00:54:52.060 the American dream doesn't exist, there's no reframing and we're not doing a good job,

00:54:57.760 but we're going to keep doing a better job at the Scott Adams School in Scott's ideas to reframe

00:55:05.420 this. There's nobody reframing it. It's a doom. And then all of a sudden you have a Mondami type

00:55:10.960 or an AOC type arriving, saying, we're going to take from those rich bastards, and we're 0.99

00:55:16.360 going to distribute the money, and we're going to admonish your student loan, and comrade, 0.97

00:55:21.980 we're going to be moving forward, you know, so that the industrial proletariat, you know, 0.79

00:55:27.880 is the winner, you know, this whole process, it's going to play out. And the unfortunate part is 0.96

00:55:35.700 the antithesis of that is not being articulated. It's the best way I'm going to put it. The

00:55:42.260 antithesis is not being articulated to that cohort. And that cohort is going to matter in

00:55:47.660 the next elections in a way that we are going to be shocked. So if we don't get a message out,

00:55:53.580 hey, AI is going to empower you. Robotics are going to empower you. Yes, your career may not

00:56:00.120 exist in the future. Yes, your degree was probably a ripoff. And yes, we're probably going to have

00:56:05.340 to politically extract the student debt from the system. There's going to have to be a reckoning.

00:56:13.680 Harvard did not earn that money. Yale did not earn that money. Neither did Princeton. They

00:56:19.120 bamboozled students into these, and I'm naming the big ones, they bamboozled students into these

00:56:26.040 programs, sold them an exploding cigar like Wile E. Coyote, and these kids are suffering for it.

00:56:33.260 And if we don't address it, now, I'm sorry if it doesn't meet the purity test.

00:56:37.900 Oh, they built those loans.

00:56:40.440 They signed on it.

00:56:41.240 They should pay it.

00:56:42.060 Well, yeah, they bought something that was defective.

00:56:46.180 And we have laws and rules in our society that if you're sold a defective product, that you have recourse.

00:56:52.800 We need to open up recourse so that these students can get out of the defective product that they bought.

00:56:58.820 And if our side, and that's the side of logic and realism, does not buy into that very quickly, I'm telling you what's going to happen.

00:57:08.540 It's going to be an ugly mess for the next four to eight, 16 years.

00:57:13.800 Because that's the part that's not being answered.

00:57:17.420 That's the part some people on your show that come in don't want to address.

00:57:22.420 They're like, tough it up.

00:57:26.000 Figure it out.

00:57:26.980 I'm sorry.

00:57:28.820 first off, you're not living that life. If you're on this show, you already have some

00:57:34.640 largesse that allows you to live a much better existence than most of those kids are going to

00:57:41.020 see in their life if we don't do something to solve it. So my point is, I will advocate

00:57:46.900 that most of the educational degrees that have been sold to these kids are a defective product,

00:57:53.500 go after these universities, extract a recourse. It doesn't need to be forgiveness

00:58:00.580 by the government. It needs to be, unfortunately, a lawsuit of a class lawsuit

00:58:07.860 that allows forgiveness so that these funds are delivered back and these debts are normalized.

00:58:15.540 That's one of my answers. I'm sorry if I'm getting a little too outside. My goal is not

00:58:21.740 to be political, but that's as political as I'm going to get. If you don't get that in the next

00:58:26.680 two years, most definitely needs to be done now or the midterms are going to be really ugly. We

00:58:32.760 don't get that in the next two years by whoever is the next presidential candidate. You're not

00:58:37.620 going to like what's going to come because their answer is forgiveness of student loans. You and

00:58:43.360 I pay for it all in government debt. Harvard gets to keep their money. Yale gets to keep their money

00:58:48.300 And the defective product that they sold to that student gets to live on.

00:58:53.760 And that system perpetuates.

00:58:55.660 And guess why it works that way?

00:58:57.400 Because most of the people proposing these ideas are academics who are here to protect

00:59:02.940 academia.

00:59:05.460 Brian, can you stay a couple more minutes?

00:59:07.900 Absolutely.

00:59:08.540 I don't want to end on that.

00:59:10.640 No.

00:59:11.020 Well, I mean, we're riveted.

00:59:12.680 Like everybody's like, can Brian come every week?

00:59:14.600 I'm like, yeah, I wish it was that easy.

00:59:16.900 But Owen's right.

00:59:18.300 Yeah, we need a reframing. And we need to address that group more than anybody else.

00:59:24.440 But Brian, what's the so I always am pushing, forget college and have your kids learn a trade.

00:59:32.060 Don't go into debt for school. Start working right out of high school. Start making money.

00:59:38.420 Don't inquire debt, acquire debt and learn a trade because we need to build in this country.

00:59:44.320 Like even if we're building data centers, somebody's got to build them. Right.

00:59:47.760 So that's my advice.

00:59:50.220 My advice is your goal is to own a home, no matter what anybody says, because that will

00:59:57.680 always give you generational wealth, no matter unless somebody builds a nuclear power plant

01:00:04.000 that's leaking right next to your home, your real estate.

01:00:08.580 And again, major cities are going to transform into something because that was the means

01:00:13.720 of productions were centralized in the old industrial revolution, a new revolution. It's

01:00:19.380 decentralized means of production in the hands of the many, not the few. I would reframe that a

01:00:25.700 little bit. And again, this is just my opinion. And I don't disagree with you. I mean, I own a

01:00:30.600 home. I'd be kind of hypocritical to say other people shouldn't. But I think what I would say

01:00:35.920 is the important thing is to own some kind of appreciating asset, own something that's going

01:00:40.240 to get more valuable. So like Ramit Sethi, for example, would say, at least in certain markets,

01:00:45.800 you'd make a lot more money by renting and taking the difference of what you would have paid being

01:00:50.020 a homeowner. Because there are a lot of extra expenses, right? You're maintaining, you're

01:00:53.220 replacing equipment, you're dealing with maintenance or landscaping, all the other

01:00:56.920 things that a landlord takes care of for you. And so if you rent for less overall cost than what it

01:01:03.960 would cost to own, and you invest that in stocks, for example, you can often do much better

01:01:09.440 financially over time than if you just bought that home. And I'm not saying that one answer

01:01:15.800 is right or wrong. It probably is very situational based on the real estate market and the person and

01:01:20.220 all the rest. But I think if you own a business or if you own a stock portfolio, there's lots of

01:01:30.100 ways to become wealthy. And I think the important thing to me is that you're not spending every

01:01:35.660 dollar that comes in, and you are saving and investing that in something. And I would see

01:01:40.940 real estate as a form of forced savings. Yeah. And that was going to be my point.

01:01:46.520 It's a form of forced savings, but it's also a lifestyle choice.

01:01:52.320 I don't think that we should be designing a world where hedge funds own most of the

01:02:00.660 single family homes. I think that's an ugly situation. And, you know, this administration

01:02:06.460 is trying to do something to make that not the case. I think it's got to be even more forceful.

01:02:13.420 The lifestyle choice is that is if you're owning a single family home that you don't own,

01:02:20.700 I can promise you over time that you will be paying more and more for less and less, right?

01:02:29.280 And yes, you can invest that money, but the stock markets go up and down.

01:02:35.980 We're going to see a major crash.

01:02:38.220 It's going to be an AI winter because a lot of these AI companies are overvalued.

01:02:44.100 I think SpaceX is probably the best investment in AI because they're not just an AI company.

01:02:50.520 They're selling space.

01:02:52.400 They're selling much more.

01:02:53.260 I think if you buy a stock like Anthropic or OpenAI, you're buying just purely that, and that is becoming commoditized to the point where they could get no marginal value.

01:03:04.420 They don't know how to build the abstraction layers that will make the real money in AI.

01:03:09.300 It's not the AI model.

01:03:10.980 That's going to be like electricity, like water.

01:03:13.320 It's going to pay a small amount.

01:03:15.420 But what do you do with electricity?

01:03:17.360 Well, you run motors, you turn on lights, you run computers, you run AI.

01:03:21.860 So AI models are going to have that same sort of thing.

01:03:25.820 All of them are going to be good enough.

01:03:29.480 Why am I saying that?

01:03:31.120 That's going to crash the stock market.

01:03:33.680 And if people have money in the stock market, the beauty of real estate is it has a bounding effect as the markets go up and down.

01:03:44.220 We have been living through an artificial market.

01:03:47.840 The market has been artificially propped up since COVID.

01:03:51.860 It can't go on forever. It's going to not be that way. And that downturn can take a lot of young folks out at the same time. That's one part. And I, again, I agree with you, Owen, only for a period of your life.

01:04:06.360 If you're newly married, you might have a little toddler, maybe an apartment, maybe even a small

01:04:12.180 home rental makes sense. But if you really want a piece of the American dream, and I urge you to do

01:04:18.620 that as a young person, I will tell you, and I'm very biased, your life changes considerably the

01:04:27.080 moment you have a child. Everything changes. And so whether you are, if you're unable to reproduce

01:04:33.800 naturally, adopt. But having somebody to care for is vitally important. And building those

01:04:41.040 relationships that allow you to do that is the challenge of your life. Relationships aren't easy.

01:04:48.800 They're the hardest things you'll ever have. Holding a marriage together is going to be hard.

01:04:54.020 Anybody telling you it's easy is lying to you, right? It is extraordinarily hard. It requires

01:05:00.160 two very strong people in a very bad economy struggling against all things and then having

01:05:06.560 the optimism to bring another life in and and caring for that life and to extend it out that

01:05:13.280 is a beautiful thing that we must encourage young people to do why because we are dying as a species

01:05:22.000 we have been sold a lie you fly over this country most of it is freaking empty and we're told it's

01:05:28.320 overpopulation. It's bullshit. Malthus and all of these limits to growth people have been telling us 1.00

01:05:34.020 this bullshit since the 1960s. These are anti-human people. They don't like humanity. They would 1.00

01:05:42.860 prefer nobody to be around. They live crippled, dirty, dark lives. When you meet some of these 0.99

01:05:49.640 folks that we think are living a happy life, being wealthy, they aren't living a happy life. It's a

01:05:56.660 very distorted, dark life. And I get to talk to some of them and they're like, Brian, what does

01:06:02.400 it feel like to be able to live? Because they can have anything, they can buy anything,

01:06:08.720 and they don't even know what it's like to live anymore. So naturally, their philosophies are so

01:06:14.820 dark. And these are the people that are building AI, the people that are trying to build our

01:06:19.420 future. They're the people in politics, by the way. They have a very dark view of humanity.

01:06:25.400 I agree with you wholeheartedly there that having a kid makes you care a lot more about the future and wanting to leave a good future for your kids and your grandkids.

01:06:33.880 Absolutely.

01:06:34.540 It makes you realize the reason why you're here.

01:06:39.160 And it's never too late.

01:06:41.960 You could be 70.

01:06:43.600 What do I mean by that?

01:06:44.780 Adopt a grandkid.

01:06:46.720 How do you do that?

01:06:47.960 There are people that are struggling.

01:06:49.980 Never had a dad.

01:06:51.860 Never had a mom.

01:06:53.080 And they need people like Scott Adams.

01:06:55.400 Scott Adams was a dad to so many people. I meet people every day because they know I've been on

01:07:01.520 the show and I talk about it. And it's like, what did he mean to you? He was like, it was like my

01:07:05.780 dad I never had. I mean, I get teared up sometimes. I was at a coffee house. I was talking to a group

01:07:11.980 of kids. I do this. I go out and I actually talk to people. I spend a lot of time doing it. I talk

01:07:18.040 to seniors and I talk to people just out of high school and out of college. I spend a lot of time

01:07:24.260 doing that because that's how i know what the future looks like by understanding the past

01:07:28.340 talking to the seniors you sit down and talk to a senior they'll tell you the reality

01:07:34.340 don't be the richest person in a grave in a graveyard if you if you die that way good luck

01:07:40.500 to you good luck to your soul if you have any belief system and talk to the young people right

01:07:46.020 and you talk to them and they want to be like black pilled red pill white pill yellow pill

01:07:52.020 they're reaching at anybody that's giving them something that makes sense and not giving them 0.99

01:07:59.460 bs like tough it up buddy it's like you know what you're full of crap yeah they need to be tough but

01:08:06.900 not in the way that a lot of unfortunately some podcasters are rolling it out now so that they 0.66

01:08:12.420 can speak the corporate line it's like come on guys let's just deal with the reality of it

01:08:17.860 reality of it is people are struggling and are struggling in ways that are far worse than it

01:08:23.940 was before and owen's right we have never been more wealthier as a civilization i mean a lot

01:08:31.940 of our problem that we're dealing with are laughable to the most wealthiest we're living

01:08:38.820 better than the most wealthiest person lived 150 years ago i mean that's the reality almost nobody

01:08:47.380 on this planet is really dying of starvation that's the reality uh almost nobody on this

01:08:53.140 planet has no way of putting a roof over their head and this includes the worst part of india

01:09:00.420 and pakistan and subtropical africa anybody has a notion of a national geographic kid in dirt

01:09:08.660 starving like maybe even 1980s feed the world and all that that doesn't exist to any greater extent

01:09:16.020 anybody telling you that is lying and they have an agenda so we are generally much more wealthy

01:09:22.980 so that's the ground state so i'm not arguing that we have our problems are much more complicated

01:09:31.780 than that how do we lift the next generation higher than the past generation because that's

01:09:37.700 our goal how do we do that and that's what we're kind of been talking about here um

01:09:45.460 i believe that the dream is to own stuff um yes i believe asset classes are great own bitcoin if

01:09:54.340 if you're at that table that said brian what do you do own bitcoin it's on sale right now

01:10:01.540 well i don't understand it it's like yeah i don't understand quantum mechanics

01:10:04.900 but somehow gravity works right you don't need to understand everything you need to understand the

01:10:11.140 way of something right the way of it is it's assigned a value just like anything all values

01:10:18.220 are assigned mentally right they're not real well i i know i can do something with gold well you know

01:10:26.260 elon in probably the next 20 years are going to make gold less valuable because it's going to be

01:10:31.700 abundant. Platinum less valuable, rare earths less valuable. There's Apollo armor and L5

01:10:39.780 asteroids that have more gold on just one asteroid than has ever been discovered on this planet.

01:10:46.760 So what happens to gold? Well, Brian, then what happens to money? Money has been a construct

01:10:51.580 since the beginning of time. We have to accept that fact. I'm not anti-gold. I owe gold and I

01:10:57.040 urge you to own gold but like i said everything changes and it moves forward so you can never

01:11:03.360 hold on to one thing but today and probably for the next hundred years owning a piece of real

01:11:12.000 estate owning a piece of american dream trying to build that the best you can the hardest thing

01:11:19.040 right now is to try to find a significant other that is willing to go on the adventure with you

01:11:25.840 and that's harder and harder for younger people i'll leave you with one kind of problem that

01:11:31.840 maybe you can talk to somebody in your life about when a young woman is taught that by stripping 0.98

01:11:41.840 their body and getting paid a hundred thousand dollars a month 1.00

01:11:47.840 is that empowerment or is that being sold another lie right because at some point

01:11:54.800 that lie i can tell you right now ai is replacing them quicker than they can possibly imagine you

01:12:01.440 have young girls that are being told by other young girls hey see you turn 18 go on this site 0.57

01:12:07.840 and show your body and and desperate you know hey pigs will give you money to show different parts

01:12:15.360 of your body how as a young man are you supposed to compete with that to try to marry that woman

01:12:22.320 that young woman who has been distorted into that mindset that that is what the future looks like

01:12:30.140 I'll just keep showing my body and sometime in the future I'll I don't know I'll make that money 0.95

01:12:36.200 into something all that matters now is I got good nails and I get to take pictures of me selfie

01:12:41.060 duck lips on Fiji right and this is where we are and that's the reality that we have to deal with

01:12:48.760 and it's not just a few kids. Most of middle America, young women, middle America,

01:12:56.920 yeah, they're not falling into the college trap. They're falling into the OnlyFans trap. 1.00

01:13:02.420 And the repercussions of what relationships look like, you know, it's like there were so many

01:13:10.540 reasons why we bound as couples. One of them was financial, but there was a lot more to it.

01:13:16.940 And if you don't have active examples of what a good relationship looks like, then you're probably going to piecemeal it from what the media and Hollywood put together as what relationships look like.

01:13:28.620 You don't have physical proof of, wow, they live together in a happy marriage, or apparently they're together and they look happy. They're happy in front of me. I see them throughout the day for 45, 50 years.

01:13:43.260 If you don't see that, then you go to Hollywood and you have overtly romantic Hallmark representations or really ugly Simpsons and other types of Homer's dumb, the guy's stupid examples. 0.99

01:14:00.520 This is urging all of us to lift it up a notch and be a better example. 0.98

01:14:06.000 work out the problems and bring your significant other if they have problems that they're not

01:14:12.920 addressing to an altar whether it's within the church whether it's in some philosophy hopefully

01:14:19.240 it's not marriage counseling because that's divorce counseling that's designed specifically

01:14:24.100 to make the woman right and the guy wrong unfortunately almost all counseling is uh i'm

01:14:31.080 sorry to tell you that man i really am but that's the reality because that's where the money comes

01:14:35.380 from. Money comes from, I'm going to get a divorce. It's usually the woman. She will wind up going to

01:14:40.100 marriage counseling. Marriage counselor is there to suck as much money out of that marriage. And 1.00

01:14:45.400 then it's handed over to the lawyers who suck the rest of the money out of that marriage. So don't 1.00

01:14:49.740 form those types of relationships. But how do you do that? How do you tell a young male?

01:14:56.640 Okay. You're going to have to put up with somebody who's making more money than you

01:15:00.640 could possibly make for the next 10 years by stripping oh it's not stripping it's just it's

01:15:06.960 stripping it's what it is but that's no uh mom and dad i'm on there talking to nice men it's no

01:15:15.040 you know that's what we're doing and if we can't talk about it plainly and if this administration

01:15:21.120 can't talk about it plainly they're not addressing it right because just by saying it's dirty and

01:15:28.480 it's ugly and they're bad that's not going to fix the problem it's like a drug this is this is the

01:15:35.280 new drug that's in the street that people aren't dealing with well we we can see the zombies in

01:15:41.280 philadelphia hunched over on their meth and crack and whatever we're not seeing what we're doing to

01:15:47.280 our young women this is exploding at such a level this summer i went around different parts of the

01:15:55.520 country i talked to some young women are you an only fans yes do you want my no no i'm not there

01:16:03.520 to be your pay pig i'm here just to understand you what you would not even believe my heart is broken

01:16:12.480 and if you have if you're a parent and you have a daughter and you think that either a that she's 0.91

01:16:17.360 not on there or b she hasn't thought about it you're deluding yourself wow this is a major

01:16:24.080 drug addiction type of problem. This administration has no idea how to deal with it because they won't

01:16:30.900 even talk about it or they'll just relegate it as nasty young girls. Well, if that's a majority 1.00

01:16:36.720 of your young girls, you've got a problem because it is a majority right now. The other side is 1.00

01:16:42.320 dealing with it because they're lifting it up as liberation for young women. 1.00

01:16:47.520 Feminism. You tell young women to be a stripper and that's 1.00

01:16:50.740 women empowerment and liberation you've got a real big problem on what that crash is going to 0.94

01:16:56.020 look like in the future because it crashes because guess what you make a lot of money at 25

01:17:02.020 and starts dropping off to nothing by the time you're 30. and then you got to get into the most

01:17:08.100 debased dirtiest aspect of human existence to eke out a living by showing your body

01:17:14.500 Now, what have we done? We have now monetized and commercialized with a middleman human relationships because you have desperate young men who cannot establish relationships with young women because their attention is focused on the camera, the mirror, and whoever those random guys, these poor lost souls who can't find other people normally, right?

01:17:40.300 Because you look at it, it's a vitreous cycle, right?

01:17:44.200 It's young men can't find young women.

01:17:46.780 They are young men.

01:17:48.560 Their testosterone levels are being knocked down by plastics and other types of things. 0.93

01:17:53.720 Every pesticide is a female hormone. 1.00

01:17:57.180 That's how they work. 0.98

01:17:58.520 So you're making young men have less testosterone. 0.92

01:18:02.520 You're getting them frustrated because young women show no attention to them because they're

01:18:06.280 not six foot tall, making six figures, right? 0.96

01:18:09.780 and have six pack abs. And so every woman is taught that they're a queen, they're 10, 11 or 1.00

01:18:16.160 12 or 15, and they should be going after the one eighth of one half of 1% of men and that they 1.00

01:18:22.580 should deserve them. And why do I need this guy who is a journeyman plumber, who's making 45k a

01:18:31.560 year when I'm making 100k a month showing my boobs, right? So that's the reality. And I'm 0.96

01:18:38.620 Sorry to bring that to you if you haven't heard this,

01:18:41.740 but that's what's going on in the tech world right now.

01:18:44.720 And those girls, unfortunately, are being replaced by AI.

01:18:47.900 And the poor, lost, lonely men, they're giving their money to AI.

01:18:55.300 I know of one AI platform that's making about $65,000 an hour

01:19:01.700 through 19, 20 different AI models of poor, lost souls, right?

01:19:08.620 You know, I'm not trying to say that there, listen, the reason why certain people wind up in certain places is because we've organized in such a way where that's where our people of power want society to organize.

01:19:27.160 nothing really operates as an accident these are different structures within

01:19:32.020 society that allow lonely people to try to find some connection through paying

01:19:38.980 money through some fantasy that's what's going on you go out to their bar scene

01:19:45.040 used to exist for at least at the final example you could hook up in a

01:19:50.280 relationship with somebody as maybe sexual but hopefully in a life

01:19:54.000 relationship those don't even exist anymore right right now that's what the youth of this country

01:20:01.520 is dealing with and do you hear anybody else talking about this why the hell is it only me

01:20:07.520 having to talk about this do you have other podcasters talking about this when they come

01:20:11.920 on your show no no they're talking about a war a group of people meanwhile all around them

01:20:20.880 their own kids unfortunately sit down and have a talk with your own kids talk with your daughter

01:20:26.560 frankly i'm urging you to sit down and talk with your daughter if you can't do it find it in you 0.99

01:20:34.480 are you showing your boobs for money right now that's the best way to say it right just cut 0.91

01:20:39.840 through it and and so why are you doing that because if you don't talk about it festers 0.95

01:20:45.520 as a disease it needs to be brought out in the open and let me tell you it's an

01:20:52.080 go and trace the people that own only fans it'll it'll it'll meet every conspiracy theory you've

01:20:58.960 ever imagined it's a canadian company by the way um every conspiracy you can imagine and they are

01:21:06.640 sucking in people to such a level it's it's ugly it's i think it's worse than drugs because it is

01:21:16.480 damaging multiple generations because unfortunately the people are paying a lot of the money they're 0.99

01:21:23.600 lost souls that are involved in relationships that they've abandoned many years ago and

01:21:30.000 they're paying the money it were i mean obviously it works both ways men are paying to watch this

01:21:34.800 women are providing it um yeah so morgan i see what you said you said song fox last night that

01:21:42.240 24 of young women say they hate all men which of course so now we're seeing this new trend of

01:21:52.960 women with little babies posting them setting up their cameras for a selfie video holding their

01:21:58.880 babies crying while they play the testimony of lindsey i can't ever remember her last name who

01:22:06.400 allegedly murdered her three babies saying that they relate to this and it's like you guys like

01:22:12.160 that the the social media selfie video stuff is definitely a disease of this world that you know

01:22:19.280 so when your husband goes to divorce you this is the perfect thing to show the judge like this is

01:22:24.960 my wife holding my baby agreeing with the notion that maybe she could potentially understand killing 0.99

01:22:30.540 your kids. Like, what are we, why are we posting that? You know, so what, I don't know what's 0.98

01:22:35.320 happening between men and women. It is definitely a problem. Um, you know, I I'll take it back to 1.00

01:22:41.620 feminism, but, uh, and the women empowerment movement, but yes, men and women need to meet

01:22:47.240 face to face, eye contact, have conversations, put the phones away, get to know each other,

01:22:52.400 maybe walk and talk and maybe that's your date a walk and talk date and connect because we're

01:22:59.580 definitely not going to populate the country the way we're going i mean it's if we don't fix this

01:23:04.440 yeah if we don't fix this everything else that we all talk about doesn't matter right they whoever

01:23:13.080 they are one our adversary one and this i'm trying to get down to the most grounded state

01:23:19.160 everybody is guilty of this we all have checked out in relationships and we need to check back

01:23:26.520 in and that is hard but here's here's the bit of advice i would give anybody

01:23:32.600 most of us create a file cabinet of stored hurts in relationships and whenever we get

01:23:40.720 brought to a certain level the file cabinet gets brought open and it gets dumped on the other

01:23:47.540 person yeah you got to stop that yeah you got to take that file cabinet and I

01:23:54.440 don't care if the other person doesn't do it you have to be the example yeah

01:23:59.000 that way you're walking into the future you'd say you say to your significant

01:24:03.980 other I've been har harboring all of these things guys probably not getting

01:24:10.340 enough sex probably not getting enough attention women probably not being told

01:24:14.840 they're beautiful anymore or seen as being beautiful anymore because they're 1.00

01:24:17.940 aging and they're going through all the different things that they're going

01:24:21.080 through their body and just menopause and all those things that impact them

01:24:25.940 you have to be aware of that and guess what when we were generational families

01:24:30.140 living together grandma and grandpa would take you by your ear and say you

01:24:34.080 get in there and you talk to you talk to them you don't treat them that way we

01:24:38.660 don't have that anymore nobody can nobody can tell us what to do when we

01:24:42.920 had generational families, no matter how old you are, the elders would tell you what to do. Get in

01:24:48.400 there and fix that. No, you don't talk to her that way. You don't talk to him that way. Yes, 0.98

01:24:53.000 you are going to make him a sandwich. Yes, you are going to buy her flowers. Yes, you're going

01:24:57.840 to do that. You need that. Today, we don't have any of that guidance. Instead, we are operating

01:25:03.960 with nothing. We have atomized our old folks into a warehouse called retirement homes, and they die 1.00

01:25:11.500 alone sad with all of this knowledge all of this experience that could have slapped us back into

01:25:17.100 line right i i have good friends at my church that do marriage counseling and they are absolutely

01:25:24.300 phenomenal and one of the first things that they do they they say let's go through the file cabinet

01:25:29.980 sit them back oh this that this 10 years ago 20 years ago is it still it still hurts i'm telling

01:25:37.500 you and scott would agree with this it is a frame change to get you back into the mindset how could

01:25:44.860 you possibly let something that somebody said 15 years ago 10 years ago three even three weeks ago

01:25:53.500 bother you today i agree oh it's it's a series of behaviors that's right now let's look at that

01:26:01.420 now maybe the other person doesn't realize how much it hurt you the problem is the meeting of

01:26:07.260 of the minds is hurt. You're dealing with pain. It's like, you got to expose yourself and they're

01:26:12.940 going to hurt me again because I've been hurting me. Maybe they didn't mean it so badly as it's

01:26:18.040 been. Well, they had to see it. I'm hurt. They don't see people are people. They live inside

01:26:23.300 their own body. They don't necessarily feel the same things that you're feeling. And the moment

01:26:27.580 you understand that, and the moment you understand, I'm sorry, the genders deal with things differently. 0.98

01:26:34.060 They process things differently. 0.83

01:26:35.800 I can show you that easily within a brain.

01:26:39.240 A lot of people say, how do you tell the difference between genders?

01:26:43.420 Put them into an MRI and look at the brain.

01:26:46.100 I'm sorry, you can't fix that.

01:26:47.620 You can't change it.

01:26:48.560 They operate differently, period.

01:26:52.080 End of story.

01:26:53.340 So the way, and I'm not female, right? 0.98

01:26:56.140 So I can only tell you that females process everything much differently. 1.00

01:27:01.200 their pain levels are much higher they better be they go through one of the most painful processes 1.00

01:27:08.000 any human being would do voluntarily maybe most of the time maybe multiple times yeah

01:27:15.660 right so you have to come to grips why are we talking about this when we're talking about tech

01:27:22.840 and politics and all the other things because we don't get this right we don't start you better

01:27:29.020 to start realizing nobody's coming to save you. Jesus, maybe. But nobody is here right now to

01:27:36.280 come to save you and your relationship. If you don't want to fix your relationship, don't look

01:27:41.320 for a third party. You're a female here. You're having problems in your marriage. I'm sorry if 1.00

01:27:45.300 I'm being, you know, marriage counseling now. If you're having problems with your marriage and

01:27:49.600 you're looking for a third party, good luck. Because I'm telling you, the entire psychology

01:27:56.680 industry is designed to break up marriages. Men too, by the way, for you men. I want to say to

01:28:04.440 the men, you too, if you're looking for a third party, look within your marriage, not outside of

01:28:10.200 it. Yeah. And we're talking marriage, but let's go back to just relationships. If you're going to

01:28:16.840 start a relationship, every relationship should be a test to a future long-term relationship.

01:28:24.060 you should be building pair bonds for the rest of your life that's how we're designed we're not

01:28:30.180 designed to keep going back to the all you can eat buffet over and over and over and over because

01:28:35.100 each one of those relationships create a scar and you need to be able to go through the tough stuff

01:28:41.100 together build those scar tissue together face the world together and then all of a sudden

01:28:46.960 you're much stronger than anything that can possibly challenge you and that's a challenge

01:28:52.640 to people in power the marriage the tight relationship the fact that you know this

01:28:59.260 person's got your back and you got their back and you're facing the world together that's how

01:29:05.500 we're designed to be and anything anybody or anything that is being proposed to make that

01:29:12.500 lesser they're trying to break the strongest thing that we have as humanity apart and

01:29:20.040 i'm sorry that it's tough i think the toughest thing i've ever seen guys do is to face their

01:29:28.320 emotions that they've been holding in that file cabinet i mean i've seen it that file cabinet is

01:29:34.720 deep and wide sometimes women tend to open the file cabinet a little more frequently show it 1.00

01:29:41.020 and they'll throw the file cabinet at you are you kidding guys will hold it and they're smoldering 0.99

01:29:46.860 And it's just like a grin and bear it. It's like, no, man, you don't need that on your back.

01:29:52.300 You got too many other monkeys on your back. The monkey on the back you want to get rid of 0.88

01:29:57.400 is solving your relationship. Because then you can go out and face the real world.

01:30:03.040 And the challenges that we all debate about, you're going to be a thousand times stronger

01:30:08.480 if you've got everybody that you're responsible for on the same frequency. And they will.

01:30:15.580 They will get on the same frequency. It's a communication problem. It's a framing problem.

01:30:21.600 I think we lost Owen on this, but I hope he's still here.

01:30:25.080 No, it's okay. I'm here.

01:30:26.660 A lot of guys don't like to deal with this. I don't necessarily, I don't enjoy talking about this,

01:30:33.920 but if you really want to change the world, clean your room, right? Start there. Clean your house.

01:30:42.380 you know I think it's a good philosophy to start with and then if you want to deal with the world

01:30:50.100 events do that but make sure you're grounding yourself in your local environment and look at

01:30:58.260 your sons and daughters they are having it harder because of that right it just and the reason why

01:31:05.720 brought up the only fans aspect is that it's so easy for people especially in a political right

01:31:13.560 to say tough it up buddy it's okay no i'm sorry if you're competing with and not every girl is

01:31:21.320 making 100k a month but enough are and they share this information you can go and see them they show

01:31:27.880 their uh their stripe account or their income account and say look i just made 100k what do

01:31:33.240 do you think an impressionable 15-year-old girl is going to do? I'm sure you know what it was like 0.70

01:31:41.400 to be an impressionable 15-year-old. Let me ask you this question. Go back and just imagine when

01:31:49.400 you were younger and all of your girlfriends are talking about being on OnlyFans and making all

01:31:56.920 this money per month, would it possibly have drawn you just, okay, I'll show my belly button?

01:32:05.540 Of course. Yeah. The easy way out. You're young. You don't think about the consequences of your

01:32:10.620 future. You're like living in the now and you're just like, well, they're doing it and I can do it

01:32:15.740 and I'll just show my feet. And then one thing leads to another. It's just a slippery slope.

01:32:20.340 It's the easy way out. You don't, you don't understand that this later is going to affect

01:32:26.120 you and potentially really hurt you. And I think so. I think what you're saying is bringing up

01:32:31.180 relationships and the OnlyFans and this and that is like nothing else really matters if we don't

01:32:35.740 fix this problem now. Yeah. Yeah. So you won't have a future. You won't have a you won't even

01:32:42.280 have somebody to vote for. Right. I mean, here's what happens psychologically, because I'm not

01:32:48.600 guessing because I've actually tracked this by the time you're used up on OnlyFans and it's been

01:32:54.080 around long enough, the crash is miserable. Because you become addicted to this drug called

01:33:01.080 money for showing your body to trying to become normal. The problem is once you put yourself

01:33:09.920 through that, you can't be normal. It's always going to be back there. So the best that you can

01:33:16.200 have is you have guidance and counseling that can move you through that bad part of your life

01:33:21.120 and into something good so that you can form a pair bond for the rest of your life. Because

01:33:25.740 that's what you're designed to do. You're not designed to die alone with your cats.

01:33:30.140 Nobody is destined for that. I don't care how lonely you are, you're not supposed to be alone.

01:33:37.080 There are solutions to that. It takes work. And I'm not saying you're not working hard,

01:33:41.240 but you're not designed to be alone. Nobody should die alone, right? So that's the reality.

01:33:48.540 So how do you take that young woman?

01:33:51.820 And unfortunately, the young male that had to go through that rejection, you know what

01:33:55.780 the rejection is like for high school kids right now?

01:33:58.300 Yeah.

01:33:59.180 The average guy, he's checked out.

01:34:02.340 Why do you think it's so easy for the Tate brothers and others?

01:34:06.940 I think Andrew is an okay guy.

01:34:08.740 I'm not putting him down.

01:34:09.680 And I know that might be controversial, but these people don't have dads mostly, right?

01:34:17.900 and they go and approach what what males older males have said it's go up and talk to girls

01:34:27.120 that's how I met my wife or my girlfriend it's like no that doesn't work anymore because the

01:34:33.420 way the environment has been social media so changed the dynamic you can't meet anybody and

01:34:39.960 then you have women saying guys don't approach me anymore well that's because you you how do you

01:34:45.260 How do you treat a guy that approaches you that isn't 666?

01:34:49.000 Ironically, 666.

01:34:51.560 How do you treat them?

01:34:52.960 How dare you approach me?

01:34:55.400 You're 5'11".

01:34:56.880 Yeah, that's a weird thing.

01:34:58.820 I do agree. 1.00

01:34:59.940 That is a weird thing when you see these young women getting all like decked out to go out 0.99

01:35:04.260 and looking however you want to describe them. 1.00

01:35:08.220 They're trying to be hot.

01:35:09.620 My lips, my this, my short skirt.

01:35:11.900 And then a guy talks to them and they're like, how dare you?

01:35:14.180 And it's like, what are we doing?

01:35:15.260 You know, exactly.

01:35:17.300 You can't win.

01:35:18.480 It worked.

01:35:19.440 It worked well in the 80s.

01:35:22.080 Yeah.

01:35:22.760 Because there was a balance between being seductive and expecting guys to react and having the cat calls and knowing how to respond.

01:35:34.040 I grew up in New Jersey at the at the Jersey Shore.

01:35:38.140 Italian guys like myself, not me necessarily, would have our shirt down to our belly buttons.

01:35:43.960 Hey, honey, what are you doing here? You know, and it's like, oh, you know, you would say stuff. And girls knew how to respond. Yeah. You don't have that anymore because we're not allowed to talk because that's abusive. Yeah. Right. So a guy has been taught his entire life, maybe by a single mom. Don't talk to women that way. Okay. How do I talk to women? I don't know. So now maybe you didn't do it. The person living, listening to this now.

01:36:13.960 but enough people have that that that is the standard so young men don't know how

01:36:19.720 to talk to young women because they haven't been taught young women don't

01:36:22.720 know how to talk to young men because they were taught that they were queens 0.59

01:36:27.160 and they don't need to talk to them and even the ones that do they feel

01:36:31.200 uncomfortable because they've never allowed this this is what our education

01:36:35.320 system has done this is what our broken families have done and then you expect

01:36:40.420 somehow it's going to work itself out. It's not working itself out. The success rate of

01:36:47.480 relationships are cratering in our world. They're all so cute. But there's no solutions being

01:36:57.820 offered. All that's being offered is figure it out. Oh, your marriage isn't working? Go to marriage

01:37:04.460 council. All these things are poison. They're designed to make sure things fail. And that's 0.99

01:37:09.840 why i'm going to repeat one last time i'll get off this horse do the best you can open up the

01:37:17.620 file drawer go through the process i can tell you it's only one file that's causing all the

01:37:23.980 problem there's one primary hurt pull out that file deal with it alone for a couple as if you're

01:37:32.900 a guy it's going to be harder deal with it alone for a couple of days really considering it and

01:37:39.160 say why am i protecting this file why am i hiding it why why do i build such walls so that nobody

01:37:49.840 gets to know that i've been hurt the fact that you still exist shows that you're strong not the hurt

01:37:57.940 showing you that you're weak the fact that you are still here is a proof that you're strong

01:38:03.500 showing your fact that you've protected yourself, even though this thing was eating you up inside.

01:38:11.260 Deal with it. Now, I urge you to think it through. I urge you to find the right moment.

01:38:19.420 And I urge you not to do it out of anger. Everything changes when you can have a conversation

01:38:25.820 about that hurt when everybody's not yelling and angry. Everybody changes when you're not using it

01:38:33.980 as a blunt tool weapon against the other person. You did this to me. It's like, this is what I'm

01:38:41.520 feeling. This is what I felt. And this is what's driving me crazy. You can fix it. If you actually

01:38:48.860 say that, if you say that to the other person and they walk away or they hurt you, you've now made

01:38:58.900 a clear decision. It's time for you to find the right person. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. No, no.

01:39:07.000 I was going to say that whether you're in a relationship or not, I think this is like good

01:39:12.240 homework for all of us. Go to your file cabinet, like any, maybe once a week, go to your filing

01:39:18.560 cabinet, your proverbial filing cabinet and take one thing out, reconcile it and burn it because

01:39:26.480 you don't have to wait for a relationship or a problem or something to remind you about it.

01:39:31.620 You know what's in there and handle it yourself like one issue at a time.

01:39:37.880 I just think that's a really good thing to do. And the other thing I wanted to point out is that

01:39:42.240 I've said this before, but human beings, people, we're the only species on earth that keeps

01:39:49.680 punishing people for the same thing over and over again. Okay. You don't see squirrels being like,

01:39:54.580 well, remember, you know, six weeks ago. Yeah. It's like, we're the only group that does this.

01:40:00.820 And so I guess until we can reconcile it and burn it, we're not going to stop punishing people

01:40:06.960 for things that, I mean, I have so many friends that are married to someone and maybe it's that

01:40:12.220 person's second marriage or their second marriage and they are so being punished for the thing that

01:40:18.020 that person's ex-wife did and it's over and over yeah it's like that has nothing to do with you

01:40:23.260 so they're like you can't be on facebook because my ex-wife hooked up with her old boy it's like

01:40:28.680 okay well that's why you're divorced from her has nothing to do with this person so we have to burn 0.99

01:40:34.000 that shit down you guys because it's going to hold you back from maybe really important relationships 0.99

01:40:39.420 whether they're personal or work related or friendships um uh you know maybe you have a 1.00

01:40:46.860 friendship where somebody else was burned by a friend they used to have and now they're they're

01:40:51.460 worried about you doing that to them and now you're like well what's this friendship about

01:40:54.940 like you're you're basing it off of something i had nothing to do with and you still can't be on

01:41:00.260 Facebook, Erica. Owen, why? You're so mean to me. And no bikini shots on Instagram. Oh, all right.

01:41:11.300 No one wants to see this. I get it. No, listen, grace and forgiveness is the most powerful tool

01:41:18.620 that we have. And an entire religion was built around that, right? I happen to believe that

01:41:27.220 If we fully take advantage of the power of forgiveness, it does not make you gullible.

01:41:36.640 It does not make you naive.

01:41:38.520 It makes you stronger.

01:41:40.380 It's you recognizing that you could be hurt, but you're also recognizing that you're big

01:41:49.060 enough to let it go.

01:41:51.440 That's the whole process.

01:41:52.960 And the reason why I talk about this so much is that once you're liberated from these things that hold us back, they want you to be in this state, whoever they are.

01:42:04.880 Listen, we can sit here for hours talking about conspiracies.

01:42:08.780 They're real.

01:42:09.920 But I'm distilling it down to the simplest kernel.

01:42:13.340 They want you confused.

01:42:15.420 They want you hurt.

01:42:16.960 They want you angry.

01:42:17.940 and they want you in the most base state that you can be in

01:42:22.200 because then you're docile and you are being led around.

01:42:26.600 Most of us are being, I'm guilty of it too,

01:42:28.800 we're being led around by people in power

01:42:30.780 because they know these tools exist.

01:42:33.280 Scott knew them and he was open sourcing them

01:42:36.360 by reframing them, identifying them.

01:42:39.580 Identify your weaknesses

01:42:41.240 and expose them to the people that you love.

01:42:47.940 liberate yourself from it and I promise you on the other side you will be so

01:42:54.480 light because you've been carrying this world on your shoulders and once it's

01:42:58.440 off your shoulders you are Superman you can lift anything you're like I got

01:43:03.060 superpowers now I never knew I had because now I'm not fighting these

01:43:07.680 things now there's one caveat a lot of people are dealing with primary wounds

01:43:13.980 this is stuff that happened to you from zero to eight they are not hurting you

01:43:19.860 anymore they're still there you probably are being controlled by them that might

01:43:27.600 take the right person to be around to work is that through so if the primary

01:43:35.400 fundamental wound that's in your file cabinet leads back to being molested

01:43:41.380 mistreated whatever it is you got to deal with that in some way the more you hide it and the 0.99

01:43:49.020 more that you make or you did something really stupid and you really wish you never did it you 0.95

01:43:54.940 got to forgive yourself yeah you only knew what you knew this is not a get out of jail card free 0.98

01:44:00.340 because guess what nobody gets that you've been suffering over that bad decision that you did

01:44:06.160 for most of your entire freaking life now you're not here to bear that burden and suffer forever

01:44:12.240 you're here to deal with the impact but you're here to build on it grow or else humans wouldn't 0.82

01:44:19.880 have been here if we all thought this way forever we would have never left our villages

01:44:25.120 we always say i made a big mistake when i was 19 and now i'm 70 and i'm still paying the price for

01:44:32.160 It's like, good.

01:44:32.840 All right. 1.00

01:44:33.180 So your whole point of being alive was to pay the price for one stupid decision you made 1.00

01:44:38.080 when you were done. 1.00

01:44:39.020 You've got to let it go.

01:44:40.760 Yeah. 1.00

01:44:41.200 That's not a permission to go out and do stupid things. 0.97

01:44:47.540 That's the immediate debate tactic that most people will give you. 0.96

01:44:51.300 It's like, oh, if I treat everybody that way, they'll go out and do bad things.

01:44:55.080 It's like, no.

01:44:56.100 The fact that this world even exists is that most people don't wind up doing that.

01:45:00.180 They don't keep doing the bad things over and over.

01:45:03.020 Otherwise, they erase themselves from history.

01:45:05.820 They, A, don't get to reproduce, or B, never get to the point of being meaningful to life.

01:45:10.780 They erase themselves from the world.

01:45:13.240 You know, and unfortunately, there's some people that are going to do that.

01:45:15.340 You can't save everybody.

01:45:17.280 But to distill this down to that one point, the one thing, the one Scott Adams point I'd

01:45:23.940 like to make here is reframe all of this.

01:45:27.460 Forgive yourself, number one.

01:45:29.000 whatever is whatever is hurting you forgive yourself take the steps back accept the fact

01:45:36.160 that you've made bad decisions bad choices red person the wrong way i could tell you this

01:45:43.720 80 of the time people have been fighting over something that they've harbored for years

01:45:49.700 it's a misunderstanding of how one person felt it versus how another person felt it

01:45:55.780 period and once somebody can at least peer into oh wow you felt it that way okay i get it

01:46:05.960 that's not how i meant it oh but you did it anyway there's still going to be some of that

01:46:12.480 back and forth don't go down that road but once you see it from the other person's perspective

01:46:17.940 you're like, all right, they had this burden of, like you said, my ex is hooked up with somebody

01:46:25.620 from high school. It still bothers me. You know how you deal with that? That woman could easily

01:46:32.540 go to the person and say, hey, rather than a pushback, honey, I get it. You know, I'm going 1.00

01:46:39.980 to do everything I can to make sure that you don't have to feel that way again. Notice the words.

01:46:47.940 feel that way again, because it is a feeling that he has that he got hit over the head

01:46:57.140 with something he thought was innocuous, his wife on Facebook. And now that's not going to

01:47:03.060 happen again. You're not going to fool me again. You get so caught up in the last bite that bit

01:47:09.300 you, right? That's what bit me the last time. That's going to, you know, it's like, you know

01:47:14.160 what? Every relationship has to start from a purity standpoint. That's why you don't have a

01:47:19.600 lot of them. You should not have hundreds of relationships because each one will take away

01:47:24.720 from that purity. You have to give the other person the freedom to do whatever they're going

01:47:30.280 to do, even if that means hurting themselves and hurting you, because you don't have control over

01:47:35.080 them. This illusion of control is where we get our problems from. Oh, I'll keep her in a box.

01:47:42.640 It's like, you're not going to do that.

01:47:44.300 I'll keep him in a box.

01:47:45.480 You're not going to do that.

01:47:47.280 The best thing you can do is have such a tight communication system that you don't ever want

01:47:53.360 to be with anybody else, that they know you like the other side of your body.

01:47:59.320 You become simpatico.

01:48:00.900 You become one person.

01:48:02.800 That's the beauty of it.

01:48:04.080 And how do I know that?

01:48:05.720 Not through some new age manual. 1.00

01:48:07.760 I went to old homes, senior citizen homes.

01:48:11.520 and I sit down and I talk to these people

01:48:14.000 and they will tell you this in their own words.

01:48:16.800 And their words are much more powerful

01:48:18.320 than I could possibly give power.

01:48:20.120 It's like, what was the meaning of your life?

01:48:22.760 What was my husband?

01:48:24.080 He was the other part of me.

01:48:26.040 Did he ever mistreat you?

01:48:27.240 And he'll laugh, of course he did.

01:48:29.020 Did he ever mistreat him?

01:48:29.940 Yeah, of course we did.

01:48:31.300 But we understood each other.

01:48:33.680 Did you love him?

01:48:34.600 The love to such a profound level

01:48:37.040 that they don't even have words for it.

01:48:38.960 what winds up coming out instead of words tears because they can't express being married for 40

01:48:47.940 50 60 years and that person's now gone and feeling this massive peace eliminated that's that is what

01:48:55.360 we're supposed to be right we're not designed to be alone we are born alone and die alone yes

01:49:01.960 but during this process we're designed to be pair bonded for life and that's the goal and now if you

01:49:09.120 haven't done that yet you can do it now start where you are right and why am i doing this because this

01:49:15.000 is the act of rebellion this is the most rebellious thing you can do is to form a solid relationship

01:49:23.000 you you want to fight everything in the world you want to stop whatever bad things are going to

01:49:28.480 happen, form the tightest pair bond that you can. Fix the pair bonds that are broken. Fix the pair

01:49:36.980 bonds that are broken in your family by communicating, by seeing the other side of it,

01:49:42.960 not accepting it, seeing it. And I can probably relate to this, Erica. Women want to be seen,

01:49:51.140 right? They're not necessarily always heard, but want to be seen. And most guys don't know how to 1.00

01:49:55.580 do that and when you were in a multi-generational home you learned how to do that as a male

01:50:04.060 i kind of saw it wasn't perfect i was at the end of that era where it was really functional

01:50:13.100 but think about the young kids who've never seen what that functionality looks like

01:50:17.900 what does it look like for the male to see the female what does it look like for the female to

01:50:24.700 to see the male and to be humbled, both parties, to be humbled without giving up their, you know,

01:50:30.860 their, their thing, because you have to be humbled in relationships. It is the nature of it,

01:50:36.440 right? And there is a bargaining to be made. You can make it very crass. Well, I'm going to bring

01:50:41.380 the money and she's going to bring this. It's like, yeah, but no, that's just the functionality

01:50:46.520 of the big blocks that people put out there. The real functionality is the fact that you have a

01:50:51.940 refuse. You have a place to go to when the world gets really complicated, when a world gets scary,

01:51:02.180 right, for both parties. It looks scary differently for both genders. The reality is that's the most 0.73

01:51:09.780 rebellious thing you can do. It's the strongest thing you can do politically. It's the strongest

01:51:14.240 thing you can do financially. By you taking that money out of the system, the divorce system,

01:51:21.940 is a multi-trillion dollar system. Why do we have so many apartments? Because we broke up so many 0.99

01:51:29.260 families. Where I am here in Southern California, 70% of the apartments are filled by broken

01:51:34.740 families. I talk to apartment managers. Oh, yeah. How do you know how to build it? Well,

01:51:42.260 we predict what the divorce rate is going to be in an area. Learn that. Learn that you're being

01:51:49.320 used, you're being used on so many different levels. Those apartment complexes you're getting

01:51:55.900 mad at, you should, what did it come from? Why is Brian talking about relationships when we really

01:52:02.880 should be talking about the economy and we should be talking about the politics and the war?

01:52:07.180 Because if you don't fix this, the traffic that you're mad at, the big apartment complexes are

01:52:14.820 taking over uh the people coming over the border all these different things they come because of

01:52:20.500 one thing that's not being fixed your family if we do that all these other things start resolving

01:52:28.420 themselves and again i'm sorry not all of us come from perfect families none of us do that's the

01:52:35.380 reality we all come from some kind of dysfunctionality if you really want to be honest so

01:52:40.900 start where you are if you don't have the wisdom i promise you there's a senior home down the street

01:52:48.980 that has so much freaking wisdom that you don't even know what to do with this walk in there

01:52:53.600 during lunch hour and say hey i want to i want to bring something bring dessert they're gonna 0.86

01:52:59.660 think you're a freak they go oh hold on you got poison in here talk to the administrators of

01:53:05.600 course first. Go to the administrators of the home, walk up to them and say, hey, I want to

01:53:11.100 start learning from some old people. Can you help me? Oh, sure. I want to bring something and have 0.98

01:53:17.840 coffee. Maybe we'll have kind of talks. And I just want to hear them talk. And they're going to give

01:53:23.660 their long, like I do, their long-winded, winding stories, but you'll get kernels. And you can

01:53:30.840 actually ask them for advice great marriage advice by the way and it comes free for a cup of coffee

01:53:36.840 maybe and say you know i i don't know how to talk to my wife let's sit down buddy let me tell you

01:53:42.760 what's going on here i've been married 78 years here you know and they'll tell you better things

01:53:50.600 than anybody else could ever possibly tell you that's how i learned some of this stuff

01:53:55.160 is just sitting there talking to them so fix that all the other things we wind up doing

01:54:02.040 will become that much less emotional you'll start thinking much more rationally you'll

01:54:08.600 start seeing the future in a much more positive way you'll start saying okay we're gonna have

01:54:14.520 aocm and donnie's that's fine let them play themselves out it's gonna be interesting to

01:54:18.840 watch you won't care you won't get heated you won't want to be beating everybody over the head

01:54:23.720 because let's face it that gets headlines that gets people to watch podcasts it gets people to

01:54:29.720 want to get more involved but it's also manipulating you as a human being and it's

01:54:34.120 making you disconnected from what your reason to be here is and um i won't get into that maybe in

01:54:41.240 the future i'll get into what i i absolutely am certain your reason to be here is but it's

01:54:46.520 a very simple answer i'm kind of leading towards that but if you see everything through this lens

01:54:54.680 all the technology all of the politics all the philosophy and religion all of a sudden you have

01:55:03.800 one very simple quantum computer at your hands that solves almost every problem you like throw

01:55:12.040 the problem there okay i can see how it plays out you don't it's you become a futurist without even

01:55:17.720 knowing it you can kind of see how things will work out it's not even a guess you just kind of

01:55:23.080 sit there and you kind of throw the ball up turn your back fold your arms it's going to hit the

01:55:27.160 ground how do you know that because gravity always works see once you understand gravity

01:55:34.200 and certain rules and principles you're not guessing anymore it's like being in a matrix

01:55:39.240 and you can just kind of move, move things around. And it's the empowerment that I must say

01:55:45.280 is if there is one big, massive conspiracy across almost every type of upper level,

01:55:53.380 it's a conspiracy to keep what I just told you away from you. Solving your own problems,

01:55:59.300 fixing your relationships, not making fun of each other, not destroying each other,

01:56:03.800 finding what really love is. Love is not a hallmark card or a channel. It's truly such

01:56:10.700 a connection that you don't even know where you begin and the other person begins. That's what it

01:56:17.460 is. I apologize, but I need to run to another meeting. I really appreciate the discussion.

01:56:22.220 Thanks, Brian. Thanks, Owen. Thank you, Owen, man.

01:56:24.880 So we will wrap it up. I do have a doctor's appointment too, which I would be happy to

01:56:29.540 canceled, but, uh, no, no, no, I know. So it's got to get on with your life. Right. But Brian,

01:56:34.960 this is like, this is why we need you here. Like we, the chat is just blowing up. Like,

01:56:39.960 honestly, we needed this. And, um, can you ask him? Oh, okay. Give me one second.

01:56:46.560 So I want some quick questions of you. Okay. So one thing I want to suggest though, for homework,

01:56:53.180 everybody, you know, in the next week, find some quiet time to go to your file cabinet

01:56:58.300 and let's get rid of some stuff in our filing cabinet. Okay. Whether it's for a relationship

01:57:03.580 or for your own sanity. And I'm listening to you, Brian. And like I said, we are the only species

01:57:09.760 that continually punishes ourselves for things that already happened. You guys, did you ever

01:57:14.680 have a family member, maybe a parent who you're 50 years old, however old you are, and they're

01:57:20.540 like, well, when you were 16 and you did it and you're like, holy shit, are we still talking about 0.87

01:57:26.420 this? So just remember the same goes for you. If you're still punishing yourself for something 0.90

01:57:33.200 stupid, as Brian said, that you may have done in the past, you got to let it go because you're 0.99

01:57:37.960 giving yourself that same dialogue that maybe that other person was giving to you about something 1.00

01:57:42.140 else. So the thing already happened. It's over. You can move past it now. You can get rid of it

01:57:49.220 now. You don't have to keep punishing yourself for something you did. I'm sure you already paid

01:57:54.340 the price for it. I'm sure you've already been punished. You had the consequences. You had

01:57:59.300 already lived with it and now you can let it go and you can move on from it. And it's like,

01:58:04.200 like, that's not your identity. It's not who you are. It's just a thing that

01:58:07.920 happened or that you did and it's over. Um, and the other thing I want to say is, um, yes, I,

01:58:15.700 I last, sorry. So last night I rewatched our Scott Adams school with King Randall that we

01:58:22.060 did a couple of weeks ago. It was so great. You guys go back and watch it again. Like here's a

01:58:27.520 27 year old man and he is so focused on his community and how he's raising his family and

01:58:34.360 we can all participate. I love nothing more than spending a few hours in an assisted living or a

01:58:42.960 nursing home. These people are just gems of important information. So, you know, you can

01:58:50.140 adopt a senior citizen, adopt a younger kid, meaning just spend time with them to mentor them

01:58:56.320 like King Randall was doing and like Brian's suggesting. There's so much we can do to be

01:59:01.120 useful to either heal wounds or gain wisdom or make someone else's day brighter, make your own

01:59:08.900 day brighter, which will make everyone's day brighter. So there are so many opportunities

01:59:13.720 for us to, um, to benefit from the people around us and, and not be brought down by like what

01:59:21.680 Twitter is saying, or the media is saying they all have agendas. So you have to always remember

01:59:25.520 that the media has an agenda. Um, the one question I wanted to ask you, of course, I'll miss you too

01:59:32.500 metal seer is, um, somebody asked if you needed, Oh gosh, where did it go? A certain type of

01:59:39.480 computer. Oh, you guys, it just scooched away. Someone said, ask Brian if you need

01:59:47.160 a particular computer for Grok. No, the computer's in the sky. You can use your cell phone to do it.

01:59:55.300 It's so powerful. I mean, once you start riffing off of what you can do with GrokBot. And again,

02:00:00.720 others will come, but this is like the inception point. I feel like it's the Apple iPhone moment

02:00:06.980 for ai because ai was a q a type of thing this is ai actually doing things for you like an employee

02:00:14.660 i started zero human company and i did that on my own computers but this is the manifestation

02:00:20.420 of what that looks like air gapping that was the word air gap yeah air gap uh you know listen

02:00:26.820 ultimately you want to build a company where you own all of the hardware and software but you know

02:00:32.580 like own was saying you want to rent until you get there right so ultimately yeah rent and grok

02:00:39.060 bot is a powerful tool to be able to do that um you know listen elon's not perfect but if i got

02:00:46.100 to bet money uh on on the direction i'm going to bet on a guy that wants to make sure humanity

02:00:51.780 survives, um, some catastrophe. Right. Um, okay. So you guys are so cute. The chat, um, Brian,

02:01:02.260 we are obsessed with you, you know, and you guys, I promise I, I will hunt down Brian till the ends

02:01:09.080 of time. So he knows that he can't escape me, uh, because we need you. We need your advice.

02:01:15.280 We need your wisdom and we all love this so much.

02:01:18.980 So I, I really hope that, you know, this talk with Brian today, you guys was beneficial.

02:01:24.560 It looked, it looks like it really was.

02:01:26.460 And look at how long we went on.

02:01:28.140 You're the best.

02:01:29.160 Thank you for staying and giving us your time.

02:01:30.840 Thank you.

02:01:31.380 You know, and what I'd love to do is sometime in the next month, come back and talk to the

02:01:37.520 people in the audience that have actually done the homework because we can, we can do

02:01:43.820 this together.

02:01:45.280 i mean our success stories of being able to remove one item at a time basically as you do

02:01:53.280 one item they all just start coming out and you start oh that's ridiculous it's like spring

02:01:57.840 cleaning you're kind of throwing what am i i didn't use this for 30 years what am i doing 0.98

02:02:02.240 with that there and look at it like a spring cleaning of your brain and i can only promise you

02:02:09.920 that your life is going to be better there's no question about it um and there's one more thing

02:02:16.160 i'll leave you with we're all dealing with depression the only way out of depression

02:02:21.040 is not drugs it's acts of kindness if you want to go out and help somebody and you got even

02:02:28.160 the slightest depression you don't think you're worthy go out and do it anyway those acts of

02:02:33.120 kindness what i used to do when i would get really depressed is i would take a broom and i would go

02:02:38.320 out uh and sweep somebody's front of their house ah and and people would like what are you doing i

02:02:44.160 go this helping mostly an old person um i just wanted to make everything look a little better

02:02:50.720 for you i love and it'd be a little challenge like oh you don't think i want to keep things clean no

02:02:55.760 i i just i got problems and i want this is how i work through it and all of a sudden people are

02:03:00.160 making cookies for you they're bringing out your drinks you're meeting people all of a sudden

02:03:05.200 sudden you're not depressed anymore. The way you beat this is with other people. And you connect

02:03:10.980 with other people through acts of giving, acts of kindness. I'm not telling you to be a bleeding

02:03:16.280 heart. I'm telling you to try to understand why you're here. If it's to accumulate this stuff,

02:03:23.700 you ain't going to be the richest person in the cemetery. Right. Right. That's not the reward. No.

02:03:29.500 No. No prizes for that. No prizes for that. Yeah. We're all dead in a box at the end of

02:03:35.180 of it, but, uh, or whatever you choose, maybe a mushroom suit, whatever you want. Um, so you guys

02:03:41.980 more about the mushroom suit another time, but so listen, you guys, how about that? So a little bit

02:03:47.200 of homework, it'll make sure Brian comes back in a month. He said in a month, can you imagine?

02:03:52.280 So we'll do that. So let's, you know, go to the filing cabinet, get rid of some clutter that you

02:03:57.840 don't need that you've been holding onto and you just don't need it anymore. Maybe some random acts

02:04:02.280 of kindness, do something for other people. Maybe listen to your spouse, your significant other,

02:04:10.340 your friends. Maybe it's your parents that you need to have a walk and talk with. Do some walking

02:04:16.000 and talking. I think that's a great idea. And do it with yourself too. One bit of advice though,

02:04:21.460 I got to say Erica, because this could be dangerous. Don't ask or tell the other person

02:04:28.700 open their file cabinet it's not your job to do that right the only way you can be is the example

02:04:36.380 and you can say i'm i found something out new don't you can blame it on me this this weird

02:04:44.700 guy with long hair in california gave me this idea to open up my file cabinet i'm gonna i actually

02:04:50.140 gave it a try and you know it kind of worked so this is what i'm doing i pulled this out

02:04:55.100 and this was something i'm dealing with and i don't want to talk about it necessarily because

02:05:01.500 you don't need to talk about it once it's out it's like okay this is not about a having a 10

02:05:08.300 hour chat session with your significant other say well this is kind of how it made me feel

02:05:13.340 and i know that probably doesn't serve me and it probably was wrong because i was younger then i

02:05:18.780 was dumber and i didn't really understand what i know now and i don't know why i was keeping it

02:05:23.260 so i'm going to burn it right there's a pot of fire and they're going to be like what is going 0.98

02:05:28.860 on with this person and if you do it enough you do it consistently you don't use it as a weapon

02:05:35.420 of blame see you made me feel this way if you're doing it that way you're not doing it right i said

02:05:43.260 you're burning it you're letting it go you don't even need to necessarily talk about you can

02:05:47.820 identify what the head of the file folder is this is how i felt on this date when you cheated on me 0.96

02:05:56.340 damn it or whatever it was i'm burning it yeah you don't need to announce it yeah you don't need

02:06:03.060 to go into all of the but the act of doing that and the example of doing it is a liberation for 0.99

02:06:10.120 you and it's also giving them the uh the freedom to get to that place you're only ready to go where

02:06:19.000 you're going when you're ready to get there right so it your your consistency of the example

02:06:26.120 will liberate you and other people will come along they will come along sooner or later they

02:06:30.760 won't know it they might resist it oh what's going on with this freak here you know what's

02:06:35.880 going on did you hit your head you know i'm telling you if this is not in your normal wheelhouse

02:06:41.240 and you're doing it it's going to be even more dramatic for you and your partner me it's not as

02:06:48.120 dramatic because i've done stuff like this but others it's going to be like wow and if you get

02:06:55.560 really good as a grand master you start forgiving people all over the world all over the world you

02:07:02.680 You start, you know, this person 10 years ago, you literally go through the same process

02:07:08.720 of forgiveness.

02:07:10.180 I don't necessarily always say go out and reach out to that person.

02:07:13.920 I don't think that's necessarily always a good idea.

02:07:16.880 That really requires a lot of wisdom.

02:07:19.640 I don't want anybody to jump the gun on that.

02:07:21.900 But if you can get to the grandmaster level of it, you can pick up the phone or find the

02:07:26.980 person and say, I'm sorry.

02:07:30.180 That's forgiveness, by the way.

02:07:31.840 i am sorry is forgiveness i that's right sorry there's not a lot of time to go into why that is

02:07:39.760 but it is um i love to say sometimes when things are going on and again we're going in one second

02:07:47.480 guys but i i do love to say the following sometimes i'm sorry i love you thank you and

02:07:54.440 forgive me oponopono there you go just yeah i don't know if you can kind of look into that

02:08:00.560 Yeah. Um, you know what I'm talking about? Yes. And it just covers it all. And, but you got to

02:08:05.820 mean it. And it's like, yeah, you know, it's, it's all good. And I saw you crank one, your comment,

02:08:12.120 you know, um, you, you don't have to, um, you don't have to accept behavior that you,

02:08:20.060 you can't, uh, forgive, you know, it's okay to say like, well, some things I can't forgive,

02:08:25.040 but you can just move on from it and let it go from you. You don't have to accept things that

02:08:31.540 were terrible. It is all about you. You don't have control over somebody else. So this is about you

02:08:37.660 not drinking poison so you're hurting the other person. That's right. Yep. Stop it. Don't do it

02:08:44.380 anymore. And once you're liberated from that, everything else tends to fall in place. And by

02:08:51.700 way even that poor behavior stops becoming poor behavior by that example and it isn't because

02:08:58.660 you were wrong before it's because we're all walking wounded through our life i'm just saying

02:09:03.460 stop walking wounded you have two legs two arms look up rather than down and behind you look up

02:09:10.660 and forward and all of a sudden your life changes and then anything you do politically emotionally

02:09:16.340 philosophically is a thousand times more powerful. I love it. You guys so much. I mean, I literally

02:09:22.620 could stay here all day chatting with everybody. Um, but I can't and Stella, my kitty will not

02:09:28.700 stand for it. I know it's like, no, it's not a baby. It's Stella. Um, it's my kitty. So,

02:09:36.060 all right, you guys. So we have homework cause Brian's going to come back and, um, maybe we'll

02:09:40.060 do another massive episode like this. It's going to be fantastic. And if you have any questions,

02:09:47.520 you know, like let's chat about it. We have a group chat. I'm on X. You guys know how to find

02:09:53.620 me. And let's make Brian proud by making ourselves freer and more open and focusing on what really

02:10:01.880 matters. And it's a great idea. If we don't fix this, we can't fix anything. So I think you're

02:10:07.740 right brian our focus has to be within ourselves and our families and our communities and re-watch

02:10:14.300 um king randall you guys and i suggest forwarding king randall and this episode to people that you

02:10:20.460 love and care about so we can actually have that that great focus of um starting starting at home

02:10:27.020 starting with maybe we can do locals one day too i would love love love that because i know this is

02:10:32.780 is a lot esoteric you know but there's a lot more to it once you really realize it and it can go

02:10:38.900 into a couple of hours once you break it down and i'll give you authors people you can read stuff

02:10:44.360 you can get on this reframing everything in your life this is in the spirit of scott that's why i

02:10:49.820 did this today is i started thinking about it you know we can talk about tech but you know in our

02:10:55.360 pre-call we kind of like you know i'll just do something scott would have loved i hope yeah no

02:11:01.880 we'll do it. So I, I've been asking Brian for a long time too, like that we could just do a

02:11:05.860 subscribers only space. It's, you know, we could be a little bit more informal. We can read the

02:11:10.100 chat a lot more and just, you know, not worry about anything. So we will definitely do a

02:11:14.980 subscriber space. Thank you so, so much. Um, all right, you guys, I'm not going to stay and do an

02:11:20.040 Akira song, uh, cause I've got to go. And Brian, thank you so, so, so much. I mean, I'll talk to

02:11:26.600 you in between, but you are a gem and we appreciate you so much. All right, everybody say goodbye. So

02:11:33.200 why don't cut you guys off and the home team returns tomorrow to close out the week. Okay,

02:11:39.140 guys. Love you. Bye. Bye. So good. Right. You guys, we love Brian. He is, um, he's become a

02:11:53.380 dear friend to me and, uh, I appreciate him so much. So I'm so glad that, uh, he could be here

02:12:00.300 for all of us. We, we need a good episode like this, right? Best show ever. All right, guys,

02:12:08.240 I better go to my doctor or she'll charge me. Okay. We don't pay him enough. I know for sure.

02:12:17.360 All right, guys. Love you guys. See you tomorrow morning. Be good.

02:12:23.380 Thank you.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - August 20, 2026

The Scott Adams School - 08⧸20⧸26 Brian Roemmele Joins Erica & Owen

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