Real Coffee with Scott Adams - October 20, 2026


The Scott Adams School - 10⧸20⧸26 The Home Team. JamieWest Update. JD Vance. France. And More

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00:00:27.820 What do you want, Mr. Hagen?
00:00:32.260 I want my life back.
00:00:36.000 On October 23rd.
00:00:37.640 The procedure is causing traveling physical changes.
00:00:40.680 What's happening to me?
00:00:42.140 Look fear.
00:00:43.080 You have to learn to control it.
00:00:45.640 In the face.
00:00:46.680 I have no idea who you are anymore.
00:00:50.760 Tell me who you want me to be. 1.00
00:00:55.140 Clayface.
00:00:55.780 Only appears October 23rd.
00:00:57.820 week good lord i got i got good mornings on top of my head oh what what what's going on
00:01:07.740 i gotta turn that off stop typing on marcella wait here
00:01:12.860 no no there that solves the owen issue
00:01:18.380 for everyone that doesn't like owen being still there you go
00:01:24.860 now you can make me move good morning y'all good morning i was just choking before the show you
00:01:36.840 missed it and i said to owen what if i was like i was choking on my vitamins and her beer and my
00:01:42.300 beer and i was like what if i was like actually choking like and you're watching me and you'd
00:01:46.800 have to call 9-1-1 and be like i don't know where she is but she's choking in front of me
00:01:51.440 she's in jersey somewhere on the jersey shore oh lordy okay good morning all right so we've got
00:02:01.920 locals is here youtube is here good morning youtube good morning bushman and linda i can't
00:02:09.200 see right now and annie and flynn lizzie i'm just going off of trying to remember people maureen i
00:02:15.440 don't know who's in there and who's not but good morning youtube you guys were awesome yesterday
00:02:19.280 youtube i loved all the feedback and the participation in the chat so good and then x
00:02:25.940 is live and they're going to share the stream on x to get more friends in and rumble and good
00:02:32.400 morning spotify if you could only see us we wish you could because you would be like wow they are
00:02:38.580 impressive okay we're here we're ready it's time for the sip let's go oh is it gonna be a great
00:02:49.160 one. It's going to start out slow, and then it's going to build into a crescendo. Or possibly not,
00:02:58.080 but it will still be the best part of your day, and all you need is a copper mug. Let me start
00:03:04.080 again. All you need is a copper mug, or a glass of tank, or a chalice, or a stein, a canteen jug,
00:03:10.300 or a flask, a vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee, and join me
00:03:18.540 now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine hit of the day the thing that makes everything
00:03:25.380 better it's called the simultaneous sip and it's gonna happen to you right now go
00:03:30.860 sublime so good ah that was tomorrow's sip i played today so tomorrow remind me to play
00:03:46.480 tuesday sip that's where we're going yeah i have to say like i i kind of sympathize more now that
00:03:53.120 i do the simultaneous sip every day on the weekend that like it i still don't have it memorized and
00:03:59.760 i've said it dozens if not hundreds of times but i fortunately have your i have your mug
00:04:04.660 and that's literally what i read it from every single time that's right that's right owen oh
00:04:10.540 you know, thank you for reminding me. I did get, um, a DM today from somebody asking if there are
00:04:16.200 any, uh, simultaneous swaddle blankets left. I didn't write back, but you guys, um, just so you
00:04:22.740 know, during the show in the show description, I put the links in there every day to get the
00:04:28.700 Dilbert calendar, the 2027 calendar. There's also a wall calendar version for the first time. This
00:04:34.480 is the desktop. Scott worked on this. And the blankets, yes, there are blankets left. Now,
00:04:41.540 the blankets, when they're gone, they're going to be gone. I don't know how many are left right now,
00:04:45.380 maybe 70. I don't know. But grab them up, grab them up. All right. So my cat video today,
00:04:53.160 you know what I mean when I say my cat video, it's an update on Jamie, on my little Jamie West.
00:04:59.680 She's your cat.
00:05:01.100 This is my girl.
00:05:03.220 All right, so let's just watch this clip for...
00:05:06.340 Wait, wait, just to remind you.
00:05:12.740 Here's a little update on our Jamie West.
00:05:15.240 Let me just ask you a straight question, and I want an honest answer.
00:05:18.860 Did you have a sneaky beer before this interview tonight?
00:05:22.460 No.
00:05:23.340 Not even one?
00:05:24.280 I did not.
00:05:25.260 Not even one.
00:05:26.500 Really?
00:05:27.820 Yeah, really.
00:05:29.680 You know what's in my Indiana coffee mug?
00:05:33.160 It's coffee.
00:05:34.360 Yeah?
00:05:35.560 If you became a politician, would you carry on drinking beer
00:05:39.080 or would you give it up, do you think?
00:05:41.820 I don't know.
00:05:42.680 Why don't you ask Pete Hagseth, who is drinking whiskey
00:05:46.240 as he's running an illegal war?
00:05:48.480 Why don't you ask him that?
00:05:50.380 I don't think he is drinking whiskey, is he?
00:05:52.420 Pretty sure Pete's not drinking, and he made that very clear.
00:05:55.880 I think he's got a severe alcohol problem or something, man.
00:06:00.340 Anybody who would let an illegal war go on.
00:06:03.260 Jamie, let me ask you.
00:06:04.380 I'm calling the kettle black.
00:06:05.740 Jamie, you've been talking to Ben Ferguson for a while now.
00:06:08.360 You've got to know him.
00:06:09.060 He's a Republican.
00:06:10.720 Do you like him?
00:06:17.140 Do you like him?
00:06:18.160 I don't know.
00:06:18.400 I don't know the guy.
00:06:19.740 Well, you've been chatting to him for 20 minutes.
00:06:21.500 Do you like him?
00:06:22.520 I'd have no duels with you.
00:06:23.800 Could you imagine us all having a beer together?
00:06:30.260 Come on over.
00:06:32.960 I mean...
00:06:34.400 There's a keg on ice out back.
00:06:38.360 You know what, Jamie?
00:06:39.500 I reckon having a beer at your place would be great fun,
00:06:42.860 particularly if your Republican husband's around.
00:06:44.940 I think it would be a comical evening and highly enjoyable.
00:06:49.320 I mean, I grew up in a pub, so I love beer.
00:06:51.640 um so if you've got plenty of beer and it sounds like you have why don't we all just
00:06:56.560 rock around your place and have a party there you go come on over man
00:07:00.800 oh my god oh my god so jamie fessed up she fessed up to piers morgan when he said jamie
00:07:11.280 you know were you inebriated had you had a drink before that that interview you know the one that
00:07:17.100 we keep playing on here. She's like, no, no, no. She's like, all right. I had one Coors Light. I
00:07:22.940 had one Coors Light before because I was nervous. And then within like five seconds, she confessed
00:07:29.480 to, all right, I had three Coors Lights. And I'm like, girl, I don't think you had three Coors
00:07:34.620 Lights. I think it was something a little stronger or maybe a little bit more, but oh my God, she is
00:07:39.260 so amazing, Owen. Yeah. I'm thinking anytime someone starts off denying it and then says I
00:07:45.840 had one you know the number is a lot more than one kind of like when you're stopped for a stop
00:07:52.140 by the police it's like once you start admitting well I did have some yeah okay you're not telling
00:07:59.560 me the whole truth and I mean come on Marcella there was no coffee in that coffee cup not with 0.89
00:08:06.400 that same exact slurring voice i i i just adore the way that she she's just so um you know she 1.00
00:08:15.740 is the good thing about her politics she doesn't want to she wants to have like abolish taxes or 1.00
00:08:21.180 something like that which i like and republicans well i guess she's weird because she should
00:08:29.020 abolish democrats who want to tax her um i just think she's just so genuine like you could just
00:08:35.960 be like okay i had beer i know like i just we're so uh full of um of people that are you know
00:08:47.960 politicians that are so you know they they know everything they they they wanna everything is
00:08:55.320 manicured everything is to the point where they're not saying really anything they're just worked out
00:09:00.760 Yesterday I read something about another councilman that won because he said, I think I can do the job.
00:09:10.020 Like how honest, right?
00:09:11.960 Yeah, he was very honest and he stood out from all the other candidates because he was like, well, I'll do the job if I have to.
00:09:21.220 And do I know what I'm doing? No.
00:09:24.020 I think I'm seeing something start to form here.
00:09:26.840 we can have a ticket for 2028
00:09:29.120 John Fetterman and
00:09:30.900 Jamie West
00:09:31.560 I'm not going to say I don't like that
00:09:36.800 that's exciting
00:09:37.900 or she could be his 0.62
00:09:40.800 chief of staff
00:09:41.860 his spokesperson
00:09:43.140 oh my god and then get 1.00
00:09:46.940 Kamala in there you always have to add in Kamala 1.00
00:09:48.880 because she's amazing 1.00
00:09:49.980 just have her cackling in the background
00:09:52.040 don't take away your joy
00:09:54.480 going back to pierce morgan i like his questions but how come nobody's ever asked hamela how many
00:10:01.280 uh shots she's had before uh any of the things that she's done i don't know but i hope pierce
00:10:07.620 gets to interview her because i'm sure he would if i if i had to guess that's negotiated ahead of
00:10:13.280 time yeah they they probably tell them these are the only topics you're allowed to talk about you
00:10:18.120 can't say any of these things and it's probably screened out ahead of time yeah like who's going
00:10:23.680 to ask her either. Like they're all her, her pals. Um, well, you know, sticking on this theme,
00:10:30.160 I saw the most bizarre political campaign ad I've ever seen. Um, but I do think from what I know
00:10:38.920 about Amy Acton, she's running for what governor of Ohio. Yeah. Governor of Ohio. She is a little 0.99
00:10:44.900 wacky, but, um, look at this campaign ad. Um, we'll just talk about it on the other side.
00:10:51.780 My name is Donna Arthur, and I'm Amy Acton's mother.
00:10:56.460 I worked at Children and Family Service Association,
00:11:00.100 building one of the first two sexual abuse programs in America.
00:11:05.560 I love my daughter, but when I saw her lying about her opponent,
00:11:10.140 and it's not easy for a mother to say this,
00:11:12.860 but Amy has a serious problem. 1.00
00:11:15.680 She is a liar. 1.00
00:11:17.660 She lies about her past. 1.00
00:11:19.440 She says she grew up living in a tent.
00:11:23.160 None of that is true.
00:11:25.160 She's lied her entire life.
00:11:27.740 My daughter needs help, and she can't help you if she needs help herself.
00:11:33.720 People can change, but first they have to tell the truth, and my daughter still isn't doing that.
00:11:40.120 Don't vote for people who lie.
00:11:42.600 Don't let her become your governor.
00:11:44.500 If you think she'll make your life better, you're fooling yourself.
00:11:49.440 it will only get worse uh oh wait wait drama
00:11:57.860 i mean oh my god all right marcella i'm gonna come to you first i mean i don't think you'd put
00:12:08.580 up with this family shenanigan stuff in your life would you you know it just i i understand
00:12:15.200 the mom wanted to say that to voters but i'm like oh we're in it's kind of awkward you know so
00:12:24.400 you know what what's the big news uh politicians lie i know she's like don't vote for someone who
00:12:29.920 lies i'm like well lady it's like we can't vote for anyone then um you know i don't know i don't
00:12:37.680 know how to feel about it because you know i kind of feel sad like she's i don't know if she was put
00:12:43.440 but the mom was kind of unduly influenced to do this.
00:12:49.200 I do conservatorship cases in California,
00:12:52.620 which is like elderly,
00:12:53.760 like abuse and people that are like pushing you to do something.
00:12:56.860 I don't know.
00:12:58.380 Even if it's true,
00:12:59.880 I don't feel right about the commercial.
00:13:03.360 Like,
00:13:03.600 yeah,
00:13:04.540 it just feels like a little too much.
00:13:06.700 I mean,
00:13:07.420 the mother does give her credentials.
00:13:09.740 Okay.
00:13:10.480 And I mean,
00:13:11.100 she's like,
00:13:11.760 we did not grow up in a tent.
00:13:13.440 um which isn't a weird lie um so she does give her credentials but you know we don't we don't
00:13:21.100 know who's telling the truth here but oh and oh my gosh i mean how awkward for you know for amy
00:13:27.780 and everybody that has to vote it certainly is kind of cringe well i'm not sure they're having
00:13:34.620 thanksgiving if that if they're doing this i mean i'm guessing they're estranged in some way
00:13:39.040 um but i you know but we've seen this in the past like obama's brother was all against him and
00:13:45.760 you know even some of trump's relatives have come out against him and stuff but
00:13:50.000 i do think the ad was somewhat effective in terms of just you know making a point about someone who's
00:13:56.480 close to the person but i i always wonder when i see ads like that where they say things like
00:14:00.720 don't vote for this person it's like it seems almost anti-persuasive because it's like you're
00:14:06.940 putting that name out there more. Like you're saying Amy Acton, Amy Acton, Amy Acton. And it
00:14:12.080 never mentioned her opponent. Like if you really are putting on an ad, you should be like, vote
00:14:17.520 for this person. And it would put that name in your head. But if you just keep saying Amy Acton,
00:14:22.900 then you're just giving her a lot more attention. I think this is the one case though, where it's
00:14:27.200 her mom that you don't need to do that because it would be weird if she was like, I think it's
00:14:32.720 more persuasive this way personally, because if she said the other person's name, then it's just
00:14:37.180 political. But this was just to smear her character and try to come off like she's not being political. 0.98
00:14:44.920 I think if she wasn't her mom though, like if she was like a neighbor and was like, she's a liar, 0.80
00:14:49.800 you know, then that would be different. I'd be like, you know, listen, I grew up next to her.
00:14:53.060 My tent was down the road and she lies. So vote for whoever the person is. But the mom being like,
00:15:00.220 my daughter is a liar and you don't want a liar running your state I think is effective go ahead 0.96
00:15:06.160 Marcella my my question is like you're right uh both of you are right which is crazy that both of 0.98
00:15:12.520 you can be right at the same time both of you can be because now I know who Amy Acton is I didn't
00:15:17.380 know she was before this ad but I'm wondering like who paid for the camera who paid for the video 0.99
00:15:24.100 who paid for you know putting this ad up like obviously this lady I don't want to disparage
00:15:29.900 older people but i'm sure she's not the one with the camera and it's not really like a phone like
00:15:36.880 uh so it just seems too i don't know besides cringe it seems to plan i mean i think it's
00:15:44.480 organic it's probably almost certainly you know the opposition in some way i mean i don't know
00:15:51.400 if it was the other candidate or if it was the you know some pack that is like a republican pack
00:15:57.600 or something but i i would guess if you looked at it closely it probably says who paid for it
00:16:02.100 and it's probably some pack or something but um and i'm sure they they did that but i you know
00:16:07.620 they probably paid for the camera and did the filming and found her to begin with and figured
00:16:11.540 out they could do it but um you know maybe they even appealed to her like you said in terms of 0.99
00:16:16.660 saying you know she said they they lived in a tent and like made her out to be some bad mother
00:16:22.060 that didn't take care of her kids and might have said yeah i'm not gonna let that slide and i'm
00:16:26.540 to come out against her so i don't know it'll be interesting to know i love the chat you guys are
00:16:31.740 like who said lemon minty she's like show us your tent then like show us a picture of your tent
00:16:37.260 um and then they had cameras if they lived in a tent they wouldn't have oh my god that marianne
00:16:43.580 said what convinced me the most is it was her mother and what she said was bringing clarity
00:16:49.180 to her own experience as her mother yeah that's kind of how i was seeing it too um all right
00:16:55.020 I see capacity issues with her, but that's just me as someone that works with conservatorship
00:16:59.940 and elderly people. But that's just, I don't know. I felt like she, I love how this is such
00:17:04.700 a topic for it. Like we're like really talking about this, but I do feel like she kind of
00:17:09.200 skirted around that by talking about her credentials in a way. So who knows, but you
00:17:15.480 know what, this is like, this is Owen. I think it's time for a persuasion tip from Scott actually,
00:17:21.880 because we're talking about this.
00:17:25.260 Marcella, I think we need a persuasion tip from Scott.
00:17:29.140 All right, you guys, let's see what Scott might say.
00:17:31.720 Not necessarily about this,
00:17:33.460 but maybe this will bring light for all of us.
00:17:35.820 Here we go.
00:17:37.300 Here's a rule of persuasion that you might not be aware of.
00:17:41.000 And one of the reasons that I say
00:17:42.260 you should build your talent stack
00:17:43.860 is so that you can see the world through more windows
00:17:46.720 if you have more skills.
00:17:48.560 It just allows you to see the world a little more cleanly.
00:17:52.860 If you had skill, let's say you had learned and trained to be a salesperson
00:17:58.500 or trained in psychology, trained in persuasion.
00:18:03.340 If you had trained in any of those fields,
00:18:05.500 here's something you would know that other people wouldn't necessarily know.
00:18:09.940 And it goes like this.
00:18:11.620 If you are trying to persuade somebody,
00:18:14.180 the best thing you can do, a really good thing to do,
00:18:17.100 like it's powerful, is get them to do something small
00:18:20.780 that primes them to later do something big,
00:18:24.160 which is the real thing you want.
00:18:26.320 So if you're in a negotiating contest
00:18:30.100 or you're trying to be the alpha in the room,
00:18:35.220 here's what you never want to do.
00:18:37.660 You never want to do exactly what somebody else asked you
00:18:41.740 or is trying to force you to do.
00:18:43.740 if you give a little bit on anything at all it makes it easier for them to get more they'll
00:18:51.160 immediately double down ah he moved an inch he moved an inch look what we got him to say the
00:18:57.740 words that we told him to say look his mouth is moving and the words he's using are our words
00:19:04.980 look what we did we turned him into our puppet in a small way very small way all we did was get him
00:19:11.700 to say the words exactly the way we wanted them to be said. If you can get somebody to do something
00:19:18.360 small like that, and here's the key, something that looks completely reasonable. Don't you think
00:19:26.520 it's 100% reasonable to ask the President of the United States to disavow white supremacists?
00:19:33.060 Totally reasonable. That's the most reasonable small thing you could ever ask for somebody.
00:19:39.380 If you didn't understand this field, you would say to yourself,
00:19:43.900 oh, well, that's very small, it's very reasonable, of course I'm going to do it.
00:19:49.780 And then you just do it.
00:19:51.140 And you would have given somebody a little bit of something,
00:19:53.640 and you would have lost ground.
00:19:56.760 You might not feel it, but it would have been a persuasion mistake.
00:20:02.360 Now, in my opinion, there's one exception to this rule.
00:20:06.860 the one exception where you should just do what you're asked is this one this exact situation
00:20:15.320 if somebody asks you as president to disavow white supremacists this is the one time I recommend 0.88
00:20:22.640 that you just say oh crap I'm going to have to actually do this exactly the way they want 0.72
00:20:29.220 and of course I want to anyway it's not like I resist the idea of it I just don't want to do
00:20:34.640 what you want me to do. So here's the first thing I'm going to try. The first thing I'm going to try
00:20:41.060 is to say it my way. Right? Because you're going to try to weasel the situation. You're going to
00:20:47.700 try to say, okay, I'm not going to say it the way you want only because you're the one telling me
00:20:52.720 to do it. It has nothing to do with the thing you want me to say. I'm not editing or judging
00:20:58.620 the content of what you want me to say. I'm only judging that you're telling me to say it.
00:21:03.100 and that disqualifies it from me being able to say it.
00:21:07.820 So instead, I'm going to try to sell you my version
00:21:10.800 and it goes like this.
00:21:12.880 I oppose all violent groups
00:21:15.100 but I think most of it comes from the left
00:21:16.820 which is what he did.
00:21:20.080 So he tried to avoid one of the biggest mistakes
00:21:25.980 you could make in persuasion
00:21:27.260 which is take somebody else's frame
00:21:28.920 and just be their puppet even on a small thing.
00:21:32.480 Now, in my opinion, that was an error
00:21:36.760 because he still should have just done it
00:21:39.960 and he should have minimized it.
00:21:43.580 He could have minimized it away.
00:21:45.560 That's the way I would have played it.
00:21:46.620 I would have said, obviously, of course,
00:21:48.520 everybody condemns white supremacy, so do I,
00:21:50.780 and then go right into Antifa.
00:21:53.140 Just give it a clear, distinct statement,
00:21:57.340 but really small.
00:21:59.120 Just compress it down and say,
00:22:00.380 everybody, including me, disavows white supremacy.
00:22:04.660 But let's talk about Antifa
00:22:05.760 and then just do a whole big Antifa thing.
00:22:09.120 That's how I would have played it.
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00:22:57.040 I have no idea who you are anymore.
00:23:01.080 Tell me who you want me to be.
00:23:05.480 Clayface, only appears October 23rd.
00:23:12.340 Yeah, sometimes less is more and it's more persuasive.
00:23:16.900 I feel like, I mean, that was obviously about Trump.
00:23:19.600 Sometimes he does talk himself into a corner and you're like,
00:23:22.580 oh you like you just if you just said the thing and moved on owen but you know he likes to put
00:23:29.040 his spin on it oh yeah well i think it is an insightful point that if you give any ground
00:23:35.100 even if it seems small even if it seems like you're not doing much then now they think okay
00:23:39.780 we got control we got them to do what we wanted and we can show that we had influence over the
00:23:44.700 president or that we're you know powerful in that way and um so i can understand the instinct to
00:23:50.640 resist that if you are good at persuasion to say i'm not given any ground why should i and all that
00:23:57.000 but i think it it is um you know certainly an extreme example when you're talking about like
00:24:01.700 white supremacy or some other you know unforgivable thing anti-semitism might be the same or whatever
00:24:06.780 but um you know i think uh you know yeah i mean he probably has a good point that it would have
00:24:15.080 better just to do it. But I can also understand the Trump instinct to say, I'm not going to do
00:24:21.720 it their way, or I'm not going to just leave it at that. I think another idea which Scott has
00:24:26.140 talked about is also embrace and amplify, which I don't know, maybe it's not quite the concept
00:24:32.300 that he taught us embrace and amplify, because that's usually about something you don't agree
00:24:35.420 with. But I think, you know, you could take it further than they do. And I know Trump has done
00:24:41.940 that in some cases too. And that may have been what he was trying to do was to say, you know,
00:24:46.560 it's not just this one narrow thing, but it's further than you're going to go in this. And
00:24:51.320 I'm even better than you. And I'm going to kind of one-up you or have the better position on
00:24:55.840 things. So I could see a few different directions to take it. Yeah. All right. So Marcella,
00:25:01.420 you have to use a lot of persuasion. I'm sure being an attorney, an actual attorney,
00:25:06.720 you know, is Scott right about this? I mean, duh, but what do you think?
00:25:11.940 I don't want to say he's not wrong, but I think overall with litigators and people like Trump, you shouldn't give an inch.
00:25:24.980 And part of it is because we enjoy the conflict.
00:25:28.660 We enjoy having that go back and forth.
00:25:33.040 And I think Trump really does enjoy that with the press.
00:25:36.020 that's why he he's always loves like going you know the helipad and like talking to them and
00:25:42.420 he he personally wants to be press secretary himself yeah you know he just enjoys that battle
00:25:48.680 and i think i i personally um think he he does the right the right thing um with not giving an
00:25:57.720 inch not giving up on his frame over their frame because he's not doing it for them he's doing it
00:26:04.100 for a different audience, for his audience.
00:26:07.340 So the way Scott was talking about it is as if he needed to say that
00:26:13.100 because the other audience, which is the left or possibly moderates,
00:26:18.900 independents or whoever it was that sees that needs that disavowing
00:26:24.100 in that particular manner, Trump wasn't talking to them.
00:26:29.660 He doesn't care to talk to them because he knows they hate him anyways.
00:26:32.700 tds so um how i see it is he's playing to his base and he loves i mean i don't personally like
00:26:41.420 him doing this because he i get like oh just say it um he the ambiguity like he's always ambiguous
00:26:49.820 uh uncertain things when he has to say certain things it's like he's in a novella like i think
00:26:55.260 of like soap operas in mexico and argentina or whatever you you see the scenes and it's like oh
00:27:01.340 know i want to tell her that the the lady did it and he loves you and all those things like that's
00:27:08.620 how i feel when i see him doing ambiguous things like i know he's not racist and i know he's not
00:27:14.460 this but like he does it he loves that edge he does not make it easier for himself doesn't make
00:27:21.180 it easier for us either well that's the thing and that's why when it's like well he does it for his
00:27:25.900 base or people love that but you know what like sometimes i'm just freaking tired and i'm like
00:27:30.060 dude, please just, just do the simple thing. So I don't have to like hear it every day of my life.
00:27:35.600 Like you make it so hard for us sometimes, uh, and for himself. So, but I totally get it. I mean,
00:27:41.860 I feel like every, you know, I mean, but I don't, you feel like every 14 year old is like the same
00:27:49.100 way. It's like, if you're going to tell me to go to my room, I'm like, no, uh, you know, like if
00:27:54.140 you're going to tell me, I need to say, I'm sorry to my brother. You're like, no. So, you know,
00:27:59.960 don't tell me what to say is like, oh, it's a thing. And it's like, you have to make it your
00:28:04.300 own idea. I mean, I don't, I'm that way. Like, oh, I had this nun at my school. I went to an
00:28:10.080 all girls private boarding school. Did she have legs? It's a joke. My mom thought, my mom thought 1.00
00:28:18.220 that nuns didn't have legs because of their, of their outfit. And one time when she was like six 1.00
00:28:23.920 or seven she went up to one of the nuns and she like oh okay to see if she had legs anyways now
00:28:32.300 i'm in on the joke yeah she had legs i don't know if all nuns have legs i mean you remember the
00:28:36.460 blues brothers where they would just float and not walk you know something was going on there
00:28:41.100 anyways conspiracy conspiracy okay so anyway sister antonia we used to butt head so bad and
00:28:50.740 she, she was my typing teacher and she lived in the dorm with us one year. I was like an RA with
00:28:56.840 some other adult, but man, like we just had it out for each other. And she was the kind of person,
00:29:03.800 like she pissed me off and I'd be like, that's it. And I'd go storming down the hall to go to
00:29:08.280 my room. Like, obviously I'm going to my room and she'd be like, I go to your room. And I'm like, 0.97
00:29:13.060 I'm like, I turn around and be like, no, I'm not going to my room. Like you knew I was going there
00:29:18.880 and now you're telling me to go there and now i cannot go there like what are we doing i was
00:29:24.100 really bad too oh i just they in high school they would put my desk around like you need to face the
00:29:31.700 other side oh because you argue too much well sister antonia also foreshadowing huh yeah
00:29:39.260 sister antonia got braces when she was my typing teacher and they like you could tell they were
00:29:45.880 really painful for her they were like extra big or something and so we had like those they were
00:29:51.440 electric typewriters but they were like you know not fancy electric typewriters and she'd be up at
00:29:56.580 the front of the room and you could tell her like lips hurt her mouth was swollen and she'd be like
00:30:01.240 saying the letters you'd have to type and she'd be like d d d d space s s s s and i was like shut
00:30:09.740 up i couldn't take it but we had oh my god and then i had to live with her and everything but
00:30:17.120 she was just the one that how old do you think she was at that time because you probably thought 0.95
00:30:21.400 she was like 85 or something no 25 she was probably in her 30s she was probably in her 30s
00:30:27.400 and uh oh my god i i can't say anymore you guys are gonna think i'm just but yeah
00:30:33.280 Mm-hmm. So anyway, I understand Trump being defiant. I understand everybody not wanting
00:30:40.140 to say the words people put in your mouth. And that's actually good advice too. Choose your own
00:30:45.720 words, your own thoughts. I like how Scott framed that in the beginning. Like when then someone's
00:30:52.060 like, oh, they're saying the thing I wanted them to say. And it's like, oh, is that the best thing
00:30:57.040 for me. So anyway, I do want to move on to Joel Pollack, friend of the show. He had an interview
00:31:07.200 with Katie Zacharia, who we never even uttered her name on this show. She came and went so fast.
00:31:13.900 And if you're like, who the heck is Katie Zacharia? She was the press secretary for President Trump
00:31:19.840 for a minute. She just didn't land well. Things just weren't right. Joel really likes her, and 0.99
00:31:29.700 that's awesome. So let's see what Joel says about her. And then, Marcella, we'll have you take it
00:31:35.680 on the other side. You know what I'm going to ask you, but let's take a listen to Joel.
00:31:41.420 I'm here in the Oval Office. Well, actually, the model of the Oval Office at the Nixon
00:31:45.940 Presidential Library in Yorba Linda, California. And today's the day that my interview with former
00:31:50.900 Press Secretary Katie Zachariah went up at the California Post website. Katie is a real media
00:31:57.000 professional. I've known her for quite some time. We have been frequent guests on Fox News at night
00:32:01.280 together, and she has earned praise from really around the media, including left of center outlets
00:32:06.860 like CNN. She really has a solid reputation. So it was a big surprise that she lasted such a short
00:32:12.460 period of time in Washington. And of course, the knives were out from her for the moment that she
00:32:17.220 was announced. She says she has no regrets and that she holds her head high. She doesn't think
00:32:22.640 she did anything wrong at all, that it was a tough week, but she made her way through it and
00:32:27.100 seems to be looking forward to the next week to come, policy issues, the midterm elections.
00:32:33.440 The issue of whether she's a lawyer or not has been at the core of the controversy, 0.60
00:32:37.460 at least in the media. And she pointed out that the American Bar Association in an article last
00:32:42.340 year said that there is a distinction between a lawyer and an attorney and that there's no real
00:32:46.520 problem with using the label lawyer if you've graduated from law school but haven't passed the
00:32:50.740 bar exam and are not licensed to practice. There are other states that disagree and there are
00:32:54.540 experts that disagree, but she actually sought legal advice. She got ethical advice from experts
00:33:00.060 and in any case, it does seem to be a red herring of sorts because the criticism against her was
00:33:04.340 really from many different directions for many different reasons. There's nothing Washington
00:33:08.840 fears as much as an outsider, especially a mom with four kids from California. Katie's got big
00:33:14.080 things planned and she's going to take a rest now, but she is going to return to the fray. 0.52
00:33:18.160 And I guarantee you, we haven't seen the last of her. She's got a lot to say. She's highly
00:33:21.840 competent, highly motivated. She still supports the president 100 percent, and she's still going 0.71
00:33:25.860 to make a huge impact on American media. All right. So, Joel, looking dapper, I want to just
00:33:33.480 say this out of the gate, um, because I saw a lot of people, you know, Joel shared his article with
00:33:41.180 us. If you guys are on the Scott Adams group chat on a X and I saw a lot of people in the comments
00:33:49.380 like, Oh, like, you know, I so disagree. I just saw somebody in here be like, this is like the
00:33:54.140 first time I don't agree with Joel. And so let's just get it out of the way that, you know, he
00:33:59.160 might have a little bias because he knows her, he's friendly with her and, um, and that's okay.
00:34:05.840 And that's, you know, Joel's opinion and Joel's take on the situation. Now we do have a resident
00:34:11.860 actual attorney in the house here with us, Marcella. And so I have heard Marcella that
00:34:19.660 there is no distinction between an attorney and a lawyer, unless you want to get right down to
00:34:25.600 nitty-gritty and find someone who will say that there is and what what's your take on this so as
00:34:32.560 you guys may know i admire jocko willock who tells you to take ownership of mistakes you make um
00:34:41.280 that's the one thing that i disagree with well not just the one thing that i disagree with what
00:34:47.040 joel just said um is that if you are caught doing something and it's not true just admit it and go
00:34:55.200 forward because america is a nation of comebacks nation of people they're like okay i made mistake
00:35:02.240 too uh i i misspoke whatever it is take ownership don't say oh i didn't do anything wrong i have no
00:35:08.880 regrets anyways out of that as an attorney that's been working for 15 years in the day in and day
00:35:16.960 out when i saw her come out there i i actually followed her i didn't really look into whether
00:35:22.240 she had credentials or not. You know, I don't always look into people, but I was under the
00:35:28.560 assumption she was an attorney in California because she lives in California and she's
00:35:33.640 practiced allegedly here under her LinkedIn. And so, and this is something she talks about.
00:35:39.860 So I didn't really think too much of it. When I saw her come out as press secretary
00:35:43.780 and i saw her flail and not do the job that i would think a person with litigation experience
00:35:53.420 or with any type of corporate experience would do in front of the cameras um and with opposition
00:35:59.480 because as an attorney you're opposed all day long you're opposed over email you're opposed over
00:36:05.680 your clients hate you uh opposing party hates you so you're always having to deal with people they
00:36:11.660 hate you. And you always have to keep centered, not nervous, nothing. So when I saw that, I
00:36:19.420 automatically knew, okay, she's not an attorney. Or if she is, she's never practiced. So under
00:36:25.920 California law, to call yourself a lawyer or an attorney and hold yourself out as one is a crime.
00:36:35.360 So the California bar is, under my assumptions, there were complaints filed by attorneys in
00:36:41.340 california against her um and so i i don't know where that's gonna go um but it is a crime to do
00:36:49.000 the claims to have done like in california because i focus here because when you're barred
00:36:57.200 you're barred by a certain state and she lived in california she worked as quote unquote general
00:37:03.380 counsel here for a nonprofit. And so you, although you don't have to have general counsel, you don't
00:37:13.160 have to be barred in the state you work at pursuant to law, you do have to be barred in one of the
00:37:19.860 states of the United States. Right. For me to hear Joel defend her, and Joel's an attorney, by the
00:37:26.460 you guys and he's barred in california um so for me to hear him defend her that way it makes me
00:37:33.980 very angry um sorry i i get really really angry because as someone that's the works every day
00:37:42.700 uh maybe a hundred hours a week 50 hours a week to hear somebody else take that it's like stolen
00:37:48.860 valor to me. I respect that. Yeah. And I know it's not the same, but I think in the very least,
00:37:58.240 this is what I would say. The reason she lost her job is not because she's not an attorney. 0.80
00:38:03.700 It's because of her dishonesty and because she wasn't able to do the job. I think if she would 0.96
00:38:10.260 have been able to do the job, people would have overlooked it and if she would have taken ownership.
00:38:14.900 and I believe that all of us make mistakes. I've made mistakes before and you have to take
00:38:20.400 ownership of them. That's what I think, but sorry. I'm like, okay, now down from my soapbox
00:38:27.400 and I loved you, Joel, but I disagree. That's okay. I, you know, it's funny. I mean,
00:38:32.440 we never even mentioned her on the show and Rob, I am not moving along. This is obviously a good
00:38:37.660 topic. So, um, so I, I like Marcella's take on this because she is an attorney in California
00:38:45.580 and you're right. You know, the, and I'm sure that, um, what's her name? Katie, Katie is a nice
00:38:53.900 person and blah, blah, blah, but you're representing our president and our country. And, you know,
00:39:02.140 you came out of the gate. Listen, I get it. You could be nervous the first couple of days, but I
00:39:07.440 mean it was a little sketch and uh and still like owen and i were talking before the show as we do
00:39:14.160 like um i think we all could have got past that we probably could have got past this whole lawyer
00:39:19.400 thing had she said like no you know what i probably shouldn't say that i don't actually
00:39:24.020 have a law degree but i went to law school and then you'd be like okay you cleared that up but
00:39:29.140 she kept dancing around it and it made trump look bad too like he was on the helipad going out one
00:39:34.720 day and she's behind him. And the press was like, you know, where did you get, you know,
00:39:39.020 where did you pass the bar? And she's like, oh, something about when I lived in China. And it's
00:39:43.180 like, stop, you're making it worse. Just do. And I, and I felt like it embarrassed president Trump,
00:39:49.120 but, um, Oh, and you really didn't have too much of a chance to get to know her, but now you've
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00:40:55.160 Well, I personally think the bigger issue that probably sunk her so quickly is just that she really flubbed her first press conference.
00:41:05.980 Like, you know, she just didn't come across as confident and a good speaker and the type of person that Trump would want representing the Trump administration.
00:41:15.300 And I think if she had knocked that out of the park, if she had done really well and come across some of the other Kayleigh McEnany and others that were more competent and were able to just shut down the press and be a little more Trump-like, then she probably could have gotten past the law school thing or the lawyer thing.
00:41:34.280 I mean, I certainly think I could have gotten past that. I'm not saying it was a good thing to either misrepresent or whatever happened there, but I don't know all the details about that anyway.
00:41:44.120 It might not have been her idea. It might have been someone else that put together the credentials. I do think it was a big mistake to give some kind of story about it that looked like a lie, because that makes it just look like you're not being honest. And that's obviously not a good look for a press secretary either. So again, that comes back to her competence for that job. That's the part that bugs me about the lawyer issue. It's like that has nothing to do with being a press secretary. You don't need to be a lawyer for that. There's no relationship there.
00:42:09.280 And so, you know, if this was being a lawyer, it would have been a different question or, you know, some Department of Justice lawyer position.
00:42:17.020 But, you know, and even the where is the standard of being a lawyer is different by state.
00:42:23.460 In fact, California is, I think, one of the easiest.
00:42:25.780 You don't actually have to go to law school to be a lawyer in California and you don't even have to pass the full bar exam.
00:42:31.580 You can have what they call the baby bar, which I think is for first year law students.
00:42:35.120 And so you can do this like apprenticeship and have a mentor that gives you certain hours as a law clerk or something else.
00:42:42.720 And sorry, were you saying something, Marcel?
00:42:44.640 California is the hardest state to become an attorney in.
00:42:48.000 Well, what I'm reading is California, Vermont, Virginia, and Washington allow you to study.
00:42:52.600 To pass a baby bar in the California bar, which is the hardest.
00:42:56.140 You can check that information. 0.59
00:42:58.320 And yeah.
00:42:58.720 Well, I'm reading what Brock tells me and it says you can do a peer apprenticeship.
00:43:02.980 and then you sit for the bar exam so you don't have to go to law school.
00:43:07.260 It's extremely difficult, only 50%, 30% pass.
00:43:11.680 And then it says California is more flexible with non-ABA schools
00:43:14.940 but often requires the baby bar for students at unaccredited schools.
00:43:19.200 So I don't know, maybe you're right that that's in addition to passing the bar exam,
00:43:22.480 but there are some where, you know, and it seems like mostly liberal states
00:43:26.780 because they're trying to do their DEI thing and say like Washington and Oregon and others,
00:43:30.480 You don't actually have to do the full process that you would expect in most places.
00:43:36.060 But in any case, that's a side issue.
00:43:37.780 I don't really think it matters that much other than just the fact that, you know, if
00:43:42.600 it was misrepresenting yourself for some silly reason, then that's relevant.
00:43:46.980 But, you know, again, flubbing the representation of it, that goes right to being a good
00:43:51.960 spokesperson.
00:43:53.260 And so I would just say the core issue to me was just she didn't seem competent for 0.99
00:43:57.000 the job.
00:43:57.400 and it's surprising to me that they wouldn't have either tested her out or at least seen what she
00:44:02.260 had done in the past. But I know she's been a guest on Fox News and all the stuff like Joel
00:44:06.560 said. So maybe there was no sign and maybe nobody was expecting it. And maybe she was just
00:44:11.080 intimidated by that particular position. I don't know. All of those appearances, she said that
00:44:16.240 she's a lawyer. So the only reason they had her as a legal analyst is because she said she was a
00:44:22.820 lawyer. That's what we do. Let me jump in to say, and so Rob, I'm going to give this to you because 0.98
00:44:27.740 I agree. So what does this woman write on her resume? I'm a lawyer from where? Where did I 1.00
00:44:34.320 get past my bar? I mean, that's called vetting. Okay. So no one ever vetted her what it was like,
00:44:42.040 well, we've seen her on TV and she's cute. I mean, and I'm not trying to downplay her at all
00:44:47.580 or like relegate her to her looks.
00:44:50.160 But it's like, you're talking about someone
00:44:51.980 representing the president of the United States.
00:44:55.180 And I mean, Caroline Leavitt was amazing.
00:44:58.240 She does such a great job.
00:44:59.600 She's a hard act to follow.
00:45:00.960 So like, you know, make sure you have all your,
00:45:03.980 I mean, like this is the most scrutinized administration
00:45:06.620 and you know that people are gonna vet her themselves.
00:45:10.240 So do it before you even put the person out there.
00:45:13.160 Like make sure this is someone ironclad.
00:45:15.100 So no shade to you, Katie.
00:45:17.580 except that you probably lied, which isn't cool. Get your story straight. That I would like to say.
00:45:26.400 And to Joel, we love you. And I just think you have a little bit of bias, which is normal,
00:45:33.800 totally normal. But I wasn't happy about her being there and she'll be fine. The woman will
00:45:40.560 be fine. Good luck, Katie, on your journey. Okay. So I'll move on from that for you, Rob,
00:45:46.500 because you want us to move along. All right. So let's do this. I love when someone gets on my
00:45:51.920 nerves in the chat and then I can't stop focusing on them. Okay. So I love this, Owen. I don't want
00:45:59.920 to get like too much into like the crazy weeds here because I have some radical clips of people
00:46:07.020 screaming, which I do love. But anyway, this is, what's his name? Valshi. What's his name? I lost
00:46:15.060 him. Hi, Stella. Oh my gosh. Anyway, this is, what is his name? You guys will see him when it
00:46:27.180 comes up. But anyway, they're talking about, they're telling Democrats don't do the mail-in
00:46:32.560 vote, which I love because that's how Democrats cheat. He's like, you guys have to go and go vote
00:46:39.820 in person. I'm like, yeah, that's better for Republicans. So let's take a listen to this
00:46:43.820 unintentional help for Republicans, in my opinion. So Ezra, this is a tricky one, because I don't
00:46:50.760 want to tell people that you don't have a right in your in your state to vote on the very last day
00:46:56.880 at the very last hour while you're still in line and not have a passport or a citizenship card with
00:47:01.780 you. That is your right. But there are people working to take that away from you. So it just
00:47:06.660 would be better if you didn't drop your your ballot in the mailbox on the last day. And if
00:47:11.060 you did if you could vote earlier it's your right to vote and and there will be people there to help
00:47:15.580 you protect your right but boy it'll be easier if everybody's voted on time and in great numbers to
00:47:20.460 make it too big to be rigged that's exactly right this is a tricky issue to cover ellie you're
00:47:25.620 covering something real here because we want to be realistic about the threat but we don't want
00:47:30.080 to send the message that trump is all-powerful and that the democracy is a sham and you shouldn't
00:47:34.440 even show up because he's going to rig the whole thing that is not true he succeeds by spreading
00:47:39.400 fear and chaos. We need to be confident, take serious the threat, but there are more of us
00:47:44.340 than there are the fascist Americans in this country. That's just true. There are more of us
00:47:47.540 than there are regime supporters. That's borne out by the polls and by the early voting numbers
00:47:51.980 we're already seeing. We should confidently, joyfully, and powerfully express our voice
00:47:56.360 with our vote. Do it as early as possible. But if you got to vote on election day, by all means,
00:48:01.280 vote on election day. Get out there and exercise that right.
00:48:04.300 oh my god the fascists marcella will be right back um that's amazing so you posted that on
00:48:13.700 your stories today owen so i just thought you could take that one for us yeah well i mean you
00:48:18.620 know as a fascist american myself i think i'm qualified to say that i fully support his message
00:48:23.860 and i think they should you know make sure they only vote in person and only on election day
00:48:28.240 And I think that's just the best thing for Democrats, you know, I mean, make sure that your vote counts and that you only show up on Election Day and you'll reduce your risk of mail-in ballot fraud and, you know, early voting fraud and all the other things that suddenly you care about.
00:48:45.780 i mean is that amazing that's that's the new msnbc that's ms now they're doing great they
00:48:54.540 just called everybody fascists and whatever else they said hysterical uh did you get to hear that
00:49:00.500 marcella no i didn't get to hear it i i saw his face and i saw the nope and then i just that's
00:49:09.580 why you left. I can't take it. So I just love that message. So yes, if you're a Democrat and
00:49:17.260 you're listening to this, very strange, but hi. Yes, go vote on election day. Do not mail in your
00:49:24.760 vote. Perfect. Okay. And to everybody else, absolutely vote early and in person, in person,
00:49:32.560 in person, in person. If that's possible, you must do it. Oh, and you're voting soon. Wait,
00:49:37.480 did you vote i have not yet but i'm planning to vote today it opened yesterday i just had too
00:49:42.780 much going on at work to get out but i'm gonna get out today to vote so do the same if your if
00:49:47.540 your state has started yes you guys get out and vote get out and vote okay so all right let's keep
00:49:53.380 moving i just have a couple of clips from jd vance and i i have my own take on this but let's take a
00:49:59.980 listen to jd will he run will he not run what do you guys think while this is playing you guys
00:50:07.460 put it in the chat will run will not run let's see what you think for a moment mr vice president
00:50:13.400 you mentioned a couple minutes ago that in a couple years you might be out of a job
00:50:17.380 uh that even in the structure of the sentence suggests that you'd be running for a continued
00:50:22.480 job not necessarily no there's a chance okay so let's go right there is there a chance you don't
00:50:27.940 run for president in 2028 of course there's a chance yeah man we've got four little kids
00:50:32.580 my wife has never loved politics she loves public service i think you know you can do a lot of good
00:50:38.580 in this job and i've tried to do as much good as possible but i really people ask me this question
00:50:44.040 all the time and i think they assume because i'm a politician of course he's going to run for
00:50:46.780 president in 2028 the way that i think about life big life decisions my wife will tell you this is
00:50:51.960 i'm a procrastinator i hate thinking about it and what will happen is that first of all after all
00:50:57.500 of these fine people elect mike rogers united states senator for the state of michigan what's
00:51:02.420 going to happen is they don't have to think about it. And then I will actually have to make a
00:51:06.100 decision, but you know, anything could happen, man. Wow. Thank you to our questioners. Thank
00:51:11.660 you to our audience. Thank you to the vice president. You can watch. Okay. I'm going to
00:51:15.160 cut that one short. So, you know, my, what I'm seeing visually is it seems to me like Marco
00:51:24.780 Rubio is out there doing much more presidential looking things. I feel like JD is doing more
00:51:33.360 vice presidential types of things, which, you know, and I'm not saying they're, they're easy
00:51:38.720 or whatever, but I see Marco showing up on the world stage more. Obviously he's secretary of
00:51:45.480 state, but I feel like the optics are leaning toward Rubio. Do you have a, an opinion on this,
00:51:52.120 Owen? Well, I do think they're both actively doing things to position themselves for the job
00:51:59.000 of president. I think Secretary of State is traditionally one of those positions that
00:52:04.140 positions you well for that because it has so much foreign policy content to it. So you're
00:52:09.460 dealing with all these nations, you're on the world stage, you're talking at the UN and all
00:52:14.000 these other places. And so I think it naturally puts you in that position just by doing your job.
00:52:19.840 And I do think Rubio is doing a great job with it. I mean, we've played a lot of the clips of some great speeches he's given and some really strong positions. And I think he is positioning himself or making himself be perceived as a very strong leader who could do that job. And I certainly think he has an ambition to do that. He's run for president before, so clearly he's trying.
00:52:37.740 And I think Vance is – I tend to think he's still likely to run, but it may be just more that he's waiting to see how the political cards fall.
00:52:51.720 Because what I would imagine is if the whole party is behind him and if the funding is behind him and everybody is trying to convince him to run, I think it would be hard for him to say, no, I'm just going to be with my kids.
00:53:02.220 Now, I could be wrong, but I kind of perceived what he did in that interview as maybe just a way of putting off the campaign.
00:53:10.620 Like, he didn't want to say, yep, I'm running for president, right?
00:53:14.800 Because he's not ready to announce it.
00:53:16.180 He hasn't launched a campaign.
00:53:17.780 He doesn't want to get it.
00:53:18.520 Because then that starts a whole cascade of events.
00:53:21.720 It takes attention off the midterms, like all kinds of things.
00:53:24.320 And so I think he did the right thing to at least put some doubt in the media's mind about whether or not he's going to run because it just takes the heat off. It just says, okay, that's a decision for another day. He could have said that more directly, but I think it might have even been more effective to say, I have personal reasons why I might not run to just create that seed of doubt.
00:53:45.260 But it doesn't commit him to anything, you know, and he even said, I'm procrastinating this decision.
00:53:50.140 But I do think that phrase was probably not the best one to use because that's probably going to show up in some opposition clip.
00:53:56.340 Could he be the vice president again?
00:53:59.900 I mean –
00:54:00.400 He could.
00:54:01.480 I don't know whether he'd want to.
00:54:05.100 You know, I mean I do think that probably the most likely ticket would be either a, you know, Vance Rubio or Rubio Vance.
00:54:11.120 Although, I get what you're saying, that if he already was vice president, and I don't know if we've ever had the same vice president two terms in a row.
00:54:19.660 That would give him time.
00:54:21.680 Yeah, but I don't know.
00:54:22.540 I mean, it might just feel like, okay, I did that, and do I want to be the number two guy again?
00:54:28.380 And then you'd also have to wonder, because I still see Vance as a very competent, very strong candidate, potentially.
00:54:35.100 And that falls in the face of the typical advice of saying you want someone weaker than you or somehow less attractive than you as the vice president.
00:54:45.300 How about this, Marcella?
00:54:47.080 So then he could be the secretary of state, Vance could be, and Rubio could be president, and then he can be secretary of state, which is probably way too demanding with the kids.
00:54:57.740 But he did just have a baby in July, and he's got all these little kids, so I could understand.
00:55:03.600 And wait, Marcella, before you react, let me play this clip and then you take it on
00:55:07.460 the other side.
00:55:08.380 I did a panel on two the other day for really smart political folks.
00:55:12.860 And I said two questions.
00:55:14.440 One, is J.D.
00:55:15.540 Vance going to run for president?
00:55:16.560 And two, if he runs, will he definitely get Donald Trump's endorsement out of the gate?
00:55:20.620 And they answered, all four of them thought the same thing.
00:55:24.340 And all four of them thought differently than me.
00:55:27.080 They said you are 99 to 100 percent chance of running and that if you ran, the president
00:55:32.000 would withhold his endorsement for a long while to toy with you and to play the game i said you're
00:55:37.220 not 100 to run which you and i have discussed but that you were if you ran the president would
00:55:41.340 endorse you who's right me or them um this is maybe the most innovative way that anybody at
00:55:48.920 has asked me the are you running for president didn't ask you that didn't ask that that's kind
00:55:53.140 of what you're asking i know the answer you don't know i'll tell you mark that i'm focused on the
00:55:57.240 midterm elections and i want to get as many good republicans elected in early november as possible
00:56:01.940 look man i i you're not 99 or 100 percent well i mean 99 and 100 are very very different things
00:56:08.060 by the way spoken like a graduate of the law school um i do i i really have not made up my
00:56:15.340 mind about what to do in 2028 i just haven't focused on it we you and i have talked about
00:56:19.200 that um look i think if i run the president will endorse me right away right at the beginning in
00:56:23.680 other words in other words like the day you announced when if you did he'd endorse you
00:56:27.820 Right. I would think so. But I mean, I haven't talked to you about it.
00:56:31.500 Yeah. Well, it'd be kind of weird, though. It'd be kind of weird if you said to Mr. President, I'm going to run.
00:56:36.040 And he said, yeah, let me think of it.
00:56:37.540 I mean, I again, I think I would get his endorsement.
00:56:40.040 But I also think there's something to be said for people actually running their own race.
00:56:44.780 And because the president's endorsement is so dispositive, you could absolutely see a scenario where the president says, you know what?
00:56:50.800 We need to let like this race play out and not like preemptively free judge the results.
00:56:58.520 Like sometimes, you know, media scrutiny, pressure policy.
00:57:02.820 You might be horrible at all that stuff. You might be horrible at it.
00:57:05.320 I could be terrible at it. And that is the sort of thing that maybe, you know, so I don't know.
00:57:11.880 I again, having never spoken to the president about this, I can't speak to a psychology on it.
00:57:16.720 But my attitude is if I run, I think the president would endorse me, but I also haven't talked to you about it
00:57:23.540 Yeah, all right. We're done and we're at time unless there's anything you want to talk about
00:57:26.960 There's plenty I want to talk about but maybe not on camera. All right. Well, we'll see you take a break
00:57:32.240 Thank you for making time. I really like Mark Halperin. Okay, so Marcella take it away, sister
00:57:37.740 I predict he'll be president with Rubio as vice president. Look at Marcella's face, too
00:57:43.760 she's like you know what i predict he'll be president look at that face just wants to be
00:57:48.960 humble you know he wants to not also he doesn't want to be attacked like you don't want to say
00:57:53.520 you're running and give like this huge news like owen said before the midterms um and also you
00:57:59.840 don't want to say you are running because too early because then you're all you know so and so
00:58:08.080 your your your child uh did not color in the lines you know i don't know whoever they want
00:58:14.720 to attack to his family he doesn't want to get that done but the worst that's immediately yeah
00:58:20.960 it is my understanding from what i from when president trump picked jd bands as vp is that
00:58:27.780 he was looking for a successor somebody that would stay around and would create uh would keep
00:58:35.040 MAGA going. And that's kind of why he picked Rubio, why he picked certain people. But I think
00:58:41.840 the more stronger candidates like Rubio, Besant, and JD Vance were picked sort of as an idea to
00:58:52.480 keep his legacy going. So I think now that's why you see Trump doing all of the projects
00:59:01.440 that he didn't do in his first term. The same thing with people. He wants to keep that going.
00:59:07.220 Of course, Barron Trump, when he gets older, maybe he'll run. I could see that. Or Donald
00:59:15.960 Jr. or, you know, Tiffany or Ivanka. You never know. One of them can run. But I think that
00:59:23.800 that's why he picked jd because he uh thought of him as someone that could keep his legacy going
00:59:33.000 so i heard that it's you know jd and marco and then don jr is like third and i'm thinking don
00:59:42.040 jr i don't want don jr what the heck is that all about um camilla don jr
00:59:48.600 i know who you would vote for i'm sure there's some element that just thinks that's a good idea
00:59:55.920 because it's trump it's you know the trump name it's the trump family and it would be like a
01:00:00.200 dynasty sort of thing and it would obviously be more similar in terms of the bombastic
01:00:05.180 like style because you know vance is pretty different in his speaking style he's very
01:00:11.120 articulate he's very exact he's very he comes across as intellectual a little bit and i don't
01:00:17.120 think it's in a bad way necessarily but it's just not trump right it's just not going to be the same
01:00:21.180 sort of thing that has that same trump style trump charisma trump everything like that and
01:00:27.200 rubio might even be a little bit closer to that but i still think he's more the traditional
01:00:31.680 politician style and you know but i'm looking forward to it i think i think it'll be interesting
01:00:38.920 to see and fun because i like i just think whether they win or lose it's just gonna be really fun to
01:00:45.040 watch vance and rubio talking to the press having the debates you know all that stuff because they're
01:00:50.760 so articulate and so good at shutting down the media and saying really strong messages and even
01:00:56.700 besant if he ended up being in the mix would be really fun because i think he's he's also just so
01:01:02.300 good at that and it would just be fun to watch the media get shut down and the sense a good time
01:01:07.800 yeah imagine like dinner with beset rubio and jd vance would be so fun i don't you don't even
01:01:16.060 need trump for that one so i want to give a piece of advice to vance um i think this is my personal
01:01:23.860 opinion i'd like to see him push away from turning point usa a lot and i think um i think his
01:01:32.800 connection with them is going to hurt him. And I'm saying that partly because Turning Point USA
01:01:39.160 is not the Turning Point USA of Charlie Kirk. And I know this might be controversial for people to
01:01:44.620 hear, but that's true. And also if we go to Vance and skip Rubio, then Gen X does not have
01:01:51.880 representation of a Gen X president ever. And Vance already feels young. I'm a Gen Xer. So I'm
01:01:59.620 speaking like as someone my age, my generation, you know, Vance feels young to me as someone who's
01:02:07.540 Gen X. So if we're going to skip Gen X altogether, I would like to see him distance himself from
01:02:12.760 Turning Point because Turning Point feels extremely young to me. And I'd like to see him
01:02:18.320 take a little bit more of a serious approach. I know they need the younger vote, but I think
01:02:25.120 he'll get it just because he is young, but I don't know. There's something that really bothers
01:02:29.780 people in my generation about that strong connection to turning point. I don't know
01:02:34.300 what it is. It's just like, it's too young feeling. I don't know. That's just, that's just
01:02:39.200 me. And I just want to see, yeah, it just feels young and inexperienced, um, and a little sloppy,
01:02:44.840 but that's me. Okay. Um, but whoever runs, we have a great bench of people on the Republican
01:02:53.680 side at this point so um i think uh i think anything's anything's possible and um here we
01:03:01.940 are at time um marcella any last words on this topic i actually think that once man's runs he
01:03:10.940 does he does win and rubio becomes vice president rubio is going to become president after that
01:03:18.240 I I I really think that Rubio has the the things already I mean he's already he can do president
01:03:27.480 and vice president all at the same time um so I think he already has what it takes it's just that
01:03:33.960 the way the GOP decides things is is it's kind of like the Democratic Party they kind of Trump was
01:03:41.460 the only the outlier I have to say but most of the time it's decided by seniority or who's next
01:03:47.780 or whatever you want to call it and i think it's kind of because jd benson speaks as vice president
01:03:53.540 he is to be next to bath but it doesn't mean that rubio won't become you will have your gen x
01:04:01.480 president and more than one probably that would be amazing because it would really be weird not to
01:04:07.440 and you're right about the tp usa so just you're right about that um that he should move to
01:04:17.000 you know, look for everybody to, to go after all people, not just TPUSA people.
01:04:27.580 Yeah. Thank you. I just feel that way. I'm just like, all right. With turning, it's,
01:04:31.940 it's a little immature and weird right now. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it.
01:04:38.240 I do like the Erica Marcella versus Kamala AOC in 28 metal seer. That would be amazing. Let's go
01:04:45.320 marcella yeah that i can't but oh well oh darn all right i'll be secretary of state okay that's
01:04:54.420 the closest i can all right oh and let's go me and you all right you don't want attorney general
01:04:59.360 or supreme court justice i want all of them all three at the same time come on let's go
01:05:07.060 all right yeah no i i think i you know i i think it's way too early to even talk about 2032 in
01:05:12.760 terms of what would happen after that. I do think it's kind of a bold prediction to say
01:05:16.600 we're going to have, you know, three Republican presidents in a row because they just tend to
01:05:21.460 think it doesn't usually happen that way. And that would be exceptional. And I do think there
01:05:25.660 are some reasons why that could happen, because, again, we're going to have another census by then.
01:05:29.520 It could shift a lot of the voting representation. And, you know, by then, hopefully, we'll be gone.
01:05:35.960 We have deported most of the illegal immigrants and any of the cheating will be harder to do. 0.99
01:05:40.460 And it does seem like things are moving in a more conservative direction in general in the country, in my opinion. 0.53
01:05:47.840 And so I think not that the Democrats aren't going to try, but if they lose in 2028, that's the part where I think there's got to be some variable because they're going to at some point have to say, we got to change our whole platform.
01:06:01.420 We can't keep going down this path. And I'm kind of surprised it hasn't happened already, where they haven't said, we got to be more moderate or more mainstream and more in touch with the people. And at some point, they probably got to find somebody, even if it's someone like a Fetterman, to just talk common sense.
01:06:19.840 you know? Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God too. And there are, you know what the good news is, is someone
01:06:27.320 as nutty as Deborah Messing is now wanting Republicans to win. So you know, they have
01:06:35.980 gone off the deep end because she's endorsing the Republican in New York now over Kathy Hochul to
01:06:41.340 run for, uh, for governor. And I'm like, that's how bad it is. Deborah cuckoo bird messing does
01:06:48.520 not one hokul to win so things could change you know the the democrats might you know it's not i
01:06:55.460 don't feel as desperate about the midterms as i did before i feel like we have a chance you know
01:07:03.720 i do think we have a chance and i think anybody who thinks they knows what's going to happen is
01:07:08.080 is overconfident i i see stories on both sides some media are saying it's absolutely going to
01:07:14.300 be a big blue wave and other people are saying this is about to be the biggest upset ever and
01:07:18.440 I don't think anyone really knows. I don't think you can trust the polls. I don't think you can
01:07:22.080 trust the betting markets. I don't think it's at all certain what's going to happen. So get out and
01:07:26.300 vote and make a difference and get all your friends to vote. Just do what you can and let's
01:07:32.920 see what happens. But don't get depressed. Don't get down on it because I think we really do have
01:07:38.400 a chance to keep Congress and to really set us up for another great two years and another lead up
01:07:43.900 to the 2028 election. And I think these riots in France and Italy and the unrest that we see here
01:07:50.740 should help the Republicans. So I mean, like the timing of that is oddly good because we don't
01:07:58.460 want more of that. So please, you know, we have to, we have to really just pick our asses up and
01:08:03.820 get out there, bring your friends, you know, like, even if you don't have these kinds of
01:08:08.180 conversations with like your neighbors and your friends have them and be like, let's go together.
01:08:12.360 We'll go vote. We'll go have lunch. We'll take a walk. We'll do something, make it like a little
01:08:15.980 event. Um, but do it as early as possible and in person. Um, all right, you guys, we did it. We did
01:08:24.240 it. Now I have some sad news for you guys. Owen is not going to be here for the rest of the week.
01:08:31.080 It's happening. I wish I could. I would be here if I could. I really would. But unfortunately,
01:08:37.720 it's just not going to work out this week, but I'll be back next week and I'll be there over
01:08:40.660 weekend oh good let me just say to you steamer mongo and everyone else as a as you wrote as a
01:08:47.300 tp usa supporter i was sorry to hear erica's comments but everyone is entitled to their
01:08:52.340 point of view this is the reason i continue to support the scott adams school you all do a
01:08:56.500 wonderful job thank you all that was so sweet and that was a nice way to write your message now i
01:09:01.940 want you to understand i don't hate turning point usa um i just think it's very young and they're
01:09:09.140 going through something right now and i think they need to work that out and i think and that
01:09:13.700 that's fine whatever they decide to do they decide to do but i think jd vance is too intertwined with
01:09:20.100 turning point usa as someone who might run for president i don't think that's good i think let
01:09:26.660 turning point work their stuff out they've obviously have so much to work through what a
01:09:32.580 tragedy with charlie kirk i mean turning point obviously will never be the same um he was turning
01:09:39.060 point usa so let them work it out but you know they're going to need a few years to figure it
01:09:43.680 out that was a big that's a big deal that's a huge massive organization that's just going through it
01:09:50.760 and that's why i just want him to step away because it might not look good all the time and it might
01:09:56.000 ebb and flow and go up and down and bad and good and just stay out of it for now um that's all i
01:10:02.820 mean by that. So I think Turning Point USA has done a lot of really good things. And I hope that
01:10:10.700 they come out successful. And I hope that they come out with the mission that Charlie Kirk wanted
01:10:17.440 for it, and that they kind of get back to their basics. I think that would be the best for
01:10:22.900 everybody. So, you know, I totally wish them luck. I mean, we miss Charlie Kirk so much. I mean,
01:10:30.100 imagine right now charlie kirk with the midterms like it breaks your heart to think about it so um
01:10:36.020 that's what i mean by it anyway no shade to them i think jd's gonna listen to you yeah i think so
01:10:43.700 yeah one of the main things that he's doing now is that as you well you guys obviously know that
01:10:50.740 the israeli elections are next tuesday and one of the things that jd kind of went against what trump
01:10:58.100 trump endorsed netanyahu even though he didn't want to and jd allegedly hasn't endorsed netanyahu
01:11:04.880 for president in israel so that shows you that he's he's changing his ways yeah that was smart
01:11:12.280 yeah he just said i you know that's another country's elections like i'm worried about
01:11:16.780 america and you know like i get it like it's like just let's not get into every controversial thing
01:11:21.660 but yeah. Um, okay. So, and by the way, the feedback from yesterday's show, I really
01:11:27.260 appreciated it. You guys were so, um, good. Like we talked about the riots and this and that,
01:11:34.520 and, um, I love the show yesterday. Um, I'm glad that some people could really relate to
01:11:41.040 the way I feel, you know, about them, like how I get like a little bit, you know, worried and
01:11:46.760 whatever. I'm definitely not neurotic. Um, but I worry about things. I worry about, you know,
01:11:52.560 our country, the future safety. And, um, a lot of you, uh, felt the same way and you were happy to
01:12:00.200 know that you weren't the only one that felt that way. Owen and Marcella are very confident and
01:12:06.320 strong. And, um, as we say, Owen's stoic, um, about some really tough issues. And I am too
01:12:14.720 with certain issues, but that one really bothered me. Like I just would hate to see that kind of
01:12:19.480 thing come to our country. Um, but you know, we represent so many different personalities and
01:12:26.100 ideas and thoughts. And I, I am glad that all of you can like resonate on different days with us
01:12:32.980 about different topics. And I hope that's useful because I don't want anyone to feel alone or
01:12:38.860 like you're the only one worrying about something, you know, but we're all here to get through
01:12:43.480 things together. So thank you for your feedback yesterday. It was really, it was overwhelming
01:12:47.940 and amazing. It was awesome. Thank you. Um, and thank you to Marcella and Owen for helping all
01:12:53.940 of us think through that yesterday. It was very helpful. All right, guys. So let's, uh, say thank
01:13:00.980 you to Scott and Shelly for allowing the show to continue. We appreciate it, um, and appreciate all
01:13:08.380 of you guys being here and that we can get through this life together. And let's have a closing sip
01:13:14.540 to our beloved Scott Adams. We miss you so much. And let's get out there and be useful and talk to
01:13:22.400 your neighbors and be honey badgers. All right, guys. To Scott. Scott. All right. Robo goon. It's
01:13:33.880 time for akira get your dance on if anyone wants to stay by oh if anyone wants to stay stay if you
01:13:43.240 can't you can't i don't know what song is it what song oh um you know what i think it's time for the
01:13:50.680 basket case theory oh no because we all have our i'm in the exception though and erica you are
01:13:58.600 Yeah, no, I am no exception to the basket case.
01:14:03.480 Let's do it.
01:14:28.600 feel to yourself man i am so weird if anybody found out how weird i am i'd be in trouble
01:14:37.640 because man i'm so weird well i would like to introduce to you the basket case theory
01:14:44.600 something i developed when i was a young man to explain what i was witnessing it goes like this
01:14:51.960 if you meet a stranger it could be somebody you want to date or just somebody you work with
01:14:56.520 maybe just a friend when you meet them don't they seem pretty complete
01:15:01.680 have their act together pretty well man that stranger i wish i could be like that stranger
01:15:08.200 because that stranger doesn't have anything weird about them they've got their act together and
01:15:13.260 on the inside pretty confident and pretty capable and then time goes by and you learn
01:15:22.700 more about your date
01:15:24.500 or your friend or your co-worker
01:15:26.360 and suddenly
01:15:28.280 there's a flaw
01:15:29.860 oh I didn't see that on day one
01:15:32.340 but there does seem to be a flaw
01:15:34.660 maybe a little weirdness
01:15:36.660 day 10
01:15:38.520 looks like there's more than one flaw
01:15:40.060 two years later
01:15:41.160 well I guess every life's all gone
01:15:43.800 that's the best case theory
01:15:48.580 Everybody looks good
01:15:53.680 Until you get to build them
01:15:55.640 Once you get to know a human being
01:15:59.160 There are always baskets
01:16:00.440 Well, I guess everybody's not done
01:16:03.040 That's the best you can't clear it
01:16:08.020 Everybody looks good
01:16:12.880 Until you get to build them
01:16:14.920 Once you get to know a human being
01:16:18.340 Always. Just different kinds of baskets. As soon as you realize that every fucking person
01:16:29.880 is a basket case, you're free. You're free. 1.00
01:16:40.000 What is it that bothers you more than anything as long as you're healthy and you have a job?
01:16:49.340 What bothers you more than anything is what people think of you, or what you think they think of you, or what they might think of you, or how they would treat you if you did this embarrassing thing.
01:17:08.680 You're not better than me.
01:17:11.360 That's your case theory.
01:17:13.660 They're not better than me.
01:17:15.940 They're just people you don't know that well.
01:17:18.340 that's it there's nothing else to the story you just don't know them that well
01:17:24.720 if you did you wouldn't be impressed
01:17:31.540 everybody looks good until you get to build them
01:17:46.020 Once you get to know a human being
01:17:49.520 They're always bad cases 0.99
01:17:51.180 Well, I guess everybody's fucked up 0.97
01:17:53.480 It's the best in case they're in 0.99
01:17:58.340 Everybody looks good
01:18:03.300 Until you get to know them
01:18:05.300 Once you get to know a human being
01:18:08.720 They're always bad cases
01:18:10.400 Thank you.
01:18:40.400 love you weirdos so fun we're just a big basket full of wackadoodles over here and yes who just
01:18:53.420 said easter baskets the best because it has an open top love that oh my god metal seer you have
01:18:59.880 way too wacky images of me that's very nice oh my gosh if only i were ai you guys are the best
01:19:09.460 marcella thanks for sticking around for the uh the little dance potty the movement party yes
01:19:19.040 a little dance movement party um all right you guys so it's marcella and i for the rest of the
01:19:24.860 week can you stand it oh my god that's gonna be insane i like it yes oh and stella three chicks 1.00
01:19:34.840 over here. George wants no part of this. And Leo, the other chick here. Yes, Leo. All right,
01:19:41.460 you guys. So tomorrow, I don't know what Marcella and I are doing. I had an idea,
01:19:46.860 but I think I'm changing it. And Thursday, Walter Kern will be here with us. And Friday
01:19:54.260 could just be shenanigans. It could just be Fri-yay. Quite a lot of shenanigans.
01:19:59.460 shenanigan time yeah it will be a good time uh everyone bring a drink
01:20:05.560 stella how does she know gosh um ufo talk with walter perhaps i mean that could be fun um you
01:20:18.700 guys let us know what you want to chat about on uh thursday with walter okay yeah you admit it sjv
01:20:25.800 I know you love him. You do. Goldie. Oh, you up for some shenanigans?
01:20:30.120 Oh, thanks local user. All right, you guys. Vice president Stella. She would take no prisoners.
01:20:41.800 Let me tell you. Oh, feed the adults. Oh, oh, something. I don't know what you're talking 0.99
01:20:48.940 about. Okay. All right. That's my sign. All right, you guys. Thanks, Marcella. Love you so much. And
01:20:54.700 i love you guys and we will be back tomorrow morning and in my head i always say god willing
01:21:00.300 um and we'll have another great another great show for you okay all right guys bye marcella
01:21:07.700 bye everybody bye erica bye everyone
01:21:11.900 everybody say bye everyone all together now see you later free bird
01:21:24.700 stella fill in for owen she's more animated
01:21:31.640 she'd be like meow see i have to stop talking once i start talking then i start our goodbyes
01:21:42.240 all over again oh yeah yeah you guys are so funny we'll have like four hour shows i know some i see
01:21:48.240 i have to like not read with what anyone's saying because then i want to i want to just chat all day
01:21:52.660 yes bring your beer or beer near beer bring your fake beer near beer i haven't heard that in so
01:22:01.080 long is that the harry potter beer no it's like fake beer like a non-alcoholic beer
01:22:09.280 that's another word for it near beer oh okay yeah things you learn
01:22:17.600 goldie's like i'd love to chat more let's go
01:22:23.160 oh my gosh well i we're not hanging up until i shut up apparently
01:22:28.440 bye-bye bye-bye y'all what was it pvd had on his uh i don't know he posted this but i think it was 0.73
01:22:36.600 on his podcast it says um like a teacher told these two girls you guys talk too much and then
01:22:43.420 is start your own podcast oh well like different things that they tell you about oh you do this you
01:22:50.380 you overthink maybe become a critical analyst or something like that right listen i mean you never
01:22:57.180 know oh oh by the way mike rowe did a great interview with this kid um how dare i call him
01:23:04.460 a kid he's first of all he's like 20 something he had a full ride to mit wow um he was doing rotc
01:23:12.700 mit and like five months not even five months in like three months in he told his parents he's like
01:23:20.200 the war in ukraine started and he's like i need to get out of here and start like a uh defense
01:23:26.880 company building better bombs and weapons and long story short he left mit the full scholarship the
01:23:34.820 whole thing. And, um, his mom works for him and he, this guy just funded him and it's crazy,
01:23:45.080 but it was like kind of that go, go do the thing you want to do. Forget college. Like he was just
01:23:51.860 like, I can't, like, I can't be here. And he was like, I can't imagine like working, like, let's
01:23:57.660 say it's SpaceX making one bolt for that one rocket for the rest of my life. You know, he's
01:24:04.500 like i want to do the whole thing i want to make the weapons the bombs the this that um because
01:24:10.500 he's super patriotic and wants people to be able to defend themselves so it's crazy now his company
01:24:16.720 is i think the valuation is like two billion dollars and he's like 20 something and it's
01:24:22.660 amazing very cool very cool she's single he is way too young for you lady it's okay it's okay
01:24:30.200 No, it's not, ma'am. I will not allow that. You'd have nothing to talk about, Marcella.
01:24:37.660 Never mind. Don't say anything. You're like, fine. That's perfect. That's a perfect relationship.
01:24:46.200 What are you talking about? Dr. Drew would not be happy with that. No. No. Dr. Drew is going to
01:24:52.860 come on again like we text, but he's so busy. Holy cow. Look, we're still talking. We're still
01:24:59.700 talking yeah we're still sorry are you guys still talking yeah seattle holy thanks michael
01:25:04.940 thought provoking i hope vance watches too and you guys no shade to turning point turning turning
01:25:12.360 point and vance running are two separate things i just want them to let them work it out and when
01:25:18.340 they after they work it out let's see how it goes that's all yeah you keep good advice thank you
01:25:25.560 they're just too in flux right now and there's too much any group that has too much going on where
01:25:30.520 you could be like you just kind of have to be very precedential and lay low and stay away from any
01:25:39.160 anything that's controversial yeah um except for coming on to this show let's go jd come on jd vance
01:25:48.680 come on down to the scott adams school dr drew listening to the after party on the weekend
01:25:54.440 Dr. Drew listens to this show, too.
01:25:57.140 And most of the time, he's in the shower.
01:25:59.520 There's a fun fact.
01:26:00.840 He's playing us in the shower.
01:26:03.200 That's very good visuals.
01:26:09.400 Marcella.
01:26:10.800 Out. 1.00
01:26:11.820 She is so naughty.
01:26:14.080 I remember meeting Dr. Drew when I was in my 20s.
01:26:17.980 Oh, really?
01:26:19.140 Yeah, he ran away from us.
01:26:22.320 I saw him in LA Live.
01:26:24.140 he was he was out with his wife and my friend my best friend at the time and i i didn't even
01:26:30.320 realize it was him and she yelled out dr drew and i was just like i i hate coming up to famous
01:26:36.200 people so i never say their name or anything like that but she she was so in love with him
01:26:40.480 so she ended up saying that and then he looked at his and looked the other way and then ran away
01:26:45.460 like run for your life yes lemon minty remember i mean i think i said it one time i'm like all
01:26:51.080 i'm jumping in the shower but i'm still listening and then it turned into like eric is in the shower
01:26:56.840 what did he say he said i was a perv oh well hello he's not exactly wrong i'm just spicy spicy
01:27:07.960 crusher taco tuesday right oh look at the spicy taco tuesday
01:27:14.280 oh i had mexican last night that's all right we could do it again
01:27:19.240 it was tuesday in france i guess in spain
01:27:23.080 oh thank you jay coca
01:27:26.660 jay coca that's nice nice yeah that's nice uh feedback is nice thank you
01:27:33.600 yeah i'm running up to scott and having him tase me out of here yes 100 i mean i think anybody
01:27:41.440 would sjv if you went running up to them yeah i think people should have their privacy yeah yeah
01:27:51.040 look at i love you guys okay all right so we'll um we'll see you tomorrow marcella say nothing
01:27:59.680 you guys we're gonna resist the urge to comment on your comments
01:28:03.600 only because stella's gonna murder me in like two seconds see dr drew bubble bats i can't not say it
01:28:11.440 I can't.
01:28:13.240 Pushing my mic away.
01:28:17.100 Bye, Crank.
01:28:18.240 Crank.
01:28:41.440 If you guys can hear me, I'm being a ventriloquist, so Marcella doesn't see me talking.
01:29:03.900 She has her microphone off, so she doesn't make a sound.
01:29:07.160 You hang up. No, you hang up. See, if she can't see my mouth moving, she doesn't know I'm talking.
01:29:14.980 Oh.
01:29:22.040 I'm just going to hang up. I'm going to do it, you guys. I'm just going to hang up,
01:29:26.880 and it's going to feel like I'm hanging up on you. I don't mean it to be this way,
01:29:32.280 but I'm going to do it. Ready? Count to three. One, two. Hey, how can you hear me,
01:29:40.200 Marcella? I'm covering my mouth. One, two, three.
01:30:02.280 Thank you.