00:30:18.740I was like, let's not insult our guests.0.74
00:30:20.580So we had to redo it, and I missed the K.
00:30:22.940But I was like, you know, let's find like an old sitcom because Joshua was like kind of, you know, exploring.
00:30:29.120and I'm like, what's a good sitcom where, you know, someone starring in it is like looking
00:30:34.340for love and whatever. And then it was like, duh, the love boat. So you were like the guest
00:30:38.920on the love boat. That's what that was. Very funny. Yes. I found that gender slop
00:30:44.020goes way more viral. So unfortunately I'm just giving you people what you want.0.99
00:30:48.300Oh my God. I hate it. I hate it. I'm like, I always want to like just text message you
00:30:53.700instead. Be like, stop it. It pops off. I don't know what to tell you. It's triggering. Oh my
00:31:02.560God. It's so funny. All right. So you guys, Marcella's leaving us early. She's off to do
00:31:07.700battle in court today. Good luck, Marcella. Thank you for joining us. I'm buying your book.
00:31:14.560Thank you. I appreciate it. And thank you very much all of you who have. My publisher's really
00:31:18.240pressuring me to sell thousands of copies so i gotta hustle we can do it five by nine or ten
00:31:25.040per person all right yeah for for each goose life lost we'll uh let me just switch you guys around
00:31:32.300here put joshua and then owen i'm at the point of saying we need reparations for we need reparations
00:31:37.900for springfield i know we need it we need a public uh victims of haitians fund in springfield
00:31:43.700It's so sad. I mean, your whole life, your family. Go ahead, Al.
00:31:47.340Has there been any local resistance or uprising or pushback on this?
00:31:52.500Number one, a Republican fears nothing more than being called racist. So that has quelled a lot of it, unfortunately.
00:32:00.800There have been several voices who have made their concerns clear.
00:32:05.480They, of course, have been labeled and slandered and doxed and harassed and the death threats.
00:32:10.560And I know of one actual credible, I suppose you could call it like the threat of gun violence on someone personally who was regularly sharing at the city commission meetings about this.
00:32:24.560And you have the combination of those two things, the threats plus the fear of being called a racist in a town where kind of everyone knows each other.
00:32:34.580It's a little bit of a small town vibe.
00:32:36.640Springfield is a tier, I would call like a tier D city,
00:32:41.040so it's not like I'm being all braggadocious here.
00:32:44.280Columbus, Cincinnati, close by with tier B, obviously.
00:32:47.420But the fact that jobs, good jobs, good paying jobs
00:32:52.220are really hard to come by has worked.
00:32:54.760The people who broke the first stories
00:32:57.760about the dead cats, about the geese, et cetera,
00:33:02.300Many of them were either employees of companies who saw it on the job or they were city employees.
00:33:08.160And what I came to discover was they were forced to sign nondisclosure confidentiality agreements about what they found and what they witnessed.
00:33:16.080And they said, if you don't sign this, you'll lose your job and then you'll lose your pension.
00:33:21.140So it's like, tell us what you said that you saw again in that house.
00:33:28.940it um i did you know i i have a clip i was gonna play it yesterday but it's even better for today0.97
00:33:35.380so let's just take a quick listen this and you guys this is just to reinforce don't be afraid
00:33:40.880okay don't don't be afraid of name calling the first thing you learned as a kid was sticks and
00:33:45.120stones right so keep that theory but here is brett weinstein from dark horse uh take a listen
00:33:52.160what we all get taught in the west has blinded us to an influx of people who don't look like us
00:34:02.060don't talk like us and don't share our values because we've been induced we've been so carefully
00:34:08.480taught not to be racist a good thing that we over apply the lesson and we don't understand
00:34:14.860I wonder what happens if you bring tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions of people who don't subscribe to the idea that every individual is entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, is entitled to be equally treated, that their life is equally valuable to yours.
00:34:33.960What if you flood a system that is based on those principles with people who don't subscribe to them and nobody reacts because they've been told that's your mind playing tricks on you, right?
00:40:48.700Oh, it's delicious. Yes. The independent publishing process is one where like they want all the files and like final draft and then you can have like the preorder link and whatnot. We wanted this to be like the holiday season 2026 book of like, you know, like basically Christmas time and kind of get out in advance of that, but after the midterms. So it was like from, you know, between the midterms and Thanksgiving, thinking about like what, okay, that's kind of like holiday season prep time.
00:41:16.240yes that's when we wanted the book to to to launch so we we may not have this like big pre-order push
00:41:21.260period because we want you to be able to like the book's available you can buy it and then now it's
00:41:25.440out you don't have to wait like eight months i did that with with jennica pounds on our book
00:41:29.680unelected we now sit in february and then like because of the shipping arrangements it wasn't
00:41:34.420being sent out until october so we don't want to make people eight wait uh eight eight months
00:41:39.100not eight weeks and ideally not even eight days like you hear about it boom it's done it's dropped
00:41:45.720we have just finalized the official cover of scott adams oh good good good authorized biography
00:41:52.840it looks wonderful professional and of course sleek uh and it looks like a biography amongst
00:41:59.120the pantheon of america's greatest men and women it certainly belongs in there i think joel has
00:42:04.960done a fantastic job uh and i told this i've told him this myself that and of course he will say oh
00:42:10.700josh we just made it so much better with all your edits you know a little bit of pat on the back
00:42:14.000here, but I will say about Joel, Scott picked him to draft his biography and that's actually
00:42:21.380what Joel did. You know how rare it is in business for someone to do what they're actually
00:42:25.060asked to do? That's so insanely rare. I've told Joel this like eight times, like you actually
00:42:30.900did what Scott asked you to do. How rare is that in any type of business? So Joel is a legend in
00:42:36.800my opinion. I've told him so many times, you were the perfect part. Like there's a reason why Scott
00:42:40.860asked you, he trusted you to be able to do it. And, and Joel's the perfect person for it. And
00:42:47.040you're obviously the only person that could edit it and take it to the shelves. Um, you guys,
00:42:53.260I know a lot of you are asking, is there an audio book available? They haven't even decided that
00:42:58.140yet. Um, so I, I know there will be Erica, there will be, um, the, the, uh, the fellow who Scott
00:43:04.840himself picked for the second editions of all of his books together with, uh, the reframe your
00:43:09.840Brain book that he and I did together. That same narrator, Andrew Baldwin, he is doing the
00:43:16.980biography. I'm working, collaborating with him on that now. Great news. That's a great,
00:43:22.680great thing to hear. Okay. So I'm going to pivot again. I just figured with the two of you here,
00:43:30.020this one clip I just have to play, Joshua, I'll have you, I'm sorry, I'm going to say,
00:43:35.920Owen, I'm going to have you react first to this. And Joshua, you're going to be amazed by this
00:43:40.140professor at Wayne University. Take a listen to this. This is just going with the theme that
00:43:47.060names don't mean anything, but this is just yet another shocking professor of law, might I add.
00:43:53.540And I know I got really burned out. Over the summer, as you know, I was working on a writing
00:43:59.620project, which still continues. But I think I also needed to power down because I was tired
00:44:06.180of listening to and seeing President Scribble face. But I'm back now. And as you notice,
00:44:14.380there are no clips with him on them. He will be scribbled out by me anytime I show him,
00:44:22.240which will be cover slides for the show. Scribbled out because, like I told you,
00:44:27.040when I was a kid, I remember looking in, we had dictionaries at school back in the day,
00:44:31.360paper dictionaries. And you flip through and look up words. Sometimes you're doing it to look up
00:44:35.480dirty words. Sometimes you're doing it to just look up words you don't know. But sometimes you
00:44:39.500looked it up, looked in there to look for famous faces. And I was curious because I had just learned
00:44:44.220about the Holocaust, probably I was nine or 10. And I noticed this when I flipped to the page
00:44:49.820where Adolf Hitler was, his face was scribbled out, scribbled out. Let us do the same. I normally0.84
00:44:56.460would say don't deface books, but his visage, Donald Trump defaces humanity. So I look forward
00:45:04.380to the day when he is scribbled out in our dustbin of history. And yes, I know, I can hear you. He is
00:45:11.480not the only one, right? It wasn't just his enablers. It's the system in which we operate.
00:45:18.120And as I often say, a person like Donald Trump isn't sui generis. He didn't invent himself. He
00:45:25.040is the kind of filth that is extruded from a system that elevates the private property rights
00:45:33.380of a few versus the okay i just have to cut her off but can you put the hat back on for a reason1.00
00:45:40.040i think i think she needs to go with uh with her enemies i think with our you know she she uh
00:45:45.040uh i think she can go with uh with our with our haitian neighbors back to port-au-prince
00:45:49.300people are saying people are saying the book is a bestseller again so i'm just pulling this up
00:45:53.440again while owen speaks oh go ahead owen can you imagine your kids in law school and this
00:45:58.740psychopath is the professor yeah i mean what i was thinking was number one she can't hear me0.98
00:46:04.580obviously she's anticipating a response i would never give to any of that crap and um i think0.98
00:46:11.740she's just demonstrating her mental illness i mean that's what it is it's just on full display i don't0.99
00:46:16.240understand why someone would be so proud to say let me show the world how insane i am i mean0.95
00:46:23.060clearly she's brainwashed she's been um convinced that you know trump is her fixation right like
00:46:31.180it's just it it seems like um it almost seems like she just can't look away like she just has
00:46:39.140to focus on trump and has to think oh i need to do something about this as if it's her responsibility
00:46:45.360somehow and yeah i would be horrified if my student was subjected to that on a regular basis
00:46:50.700um because you can't trust that that kind of person's judgment with anything and i just think
00:46:55.880she needs mental help oh she clearly does i mean and also saying the word scribble just shows that
00:47:04.760she's like locked in this like child mentality you know like i'm gonna scribble on his face
00:47:11.200scribble i haven't said scribble since i was like three um what do you think joshua i think
00:47:18.180Trump derangement syndrome continues to be an issue and it continues to be sort of a tribal
00:47:23.540signifier. Like basically the way that you, the way that you assert dominance in a tribe is to
00:47:28.960be more radically for the thing that the people believe in, which why ultimately because of the
00:47:33.880immigration issue, build the wall, the big, beautiful wall. Trump ascended to the, let's say
00:47:40.860populist, um, pole position in 2015, 2016, because he was most passionate about the cause
00:47:48.260that his people cared about. So on the left, in order to be, uh, let's say a moral authority in
00:47:53.280some way, you have to demonstrate a more and more commitment to the ideology and, and show just how
00:48:01.360more passionate about it you are. And so she's kind of trying to put herself in the pole position
00:48:05.760here uh amongst the tds left let's call it it's so it's so weird to watch like yeah it's like
00:48:13.900it's very uncomfortable it makes me feel uneasy like who's walking amongst us besides all these1.00
00:48:19.680voodoo haitian people um so all right we only have a couple of minutes so i'm going to skip1.00
00:48:24.880my last clip that i really wanted to play with having both of you here but for time we have to1.00
00:48:30.960talk about the ohio race and you know you've got amy acton who seems like a drunken fool she's like1.00
00:48:39.360kamala plus i think yeah she's kind of like she's like a a white a white kamala basically i think1.00
00:48:45.680that's a good way of putting it but best best known for an extremist uh safetyist covid response0.99
00:48:52.760when she was in charge of public health appointed there by our republican governor mike dewine who
00:48:57.980love, love, loves the Haitians more than his own citizens. And he's very honest and open
00:49:03.160about that, by the way. Really? Okay. So Amy Acton, and what was the gig there? So during
00:49:09.620COVID, she was supposed to say something and I heard she was under her desk, like sobbing like
00:49:15.460a baby and couldn't handle anything. She did. Well, she, she did make public appearances. She0.90
00:49:21.320was sort of the, let's say public health policy director, Ohio's COVID czar, by the way. And I
00:49:27.540there's also some uh let's say participation of vivek and some of that covet policy in response
00:49:34.260uh-oh uh vivek had been uh had been has been consistently trailing more and more and more
00:49:40.980uh amy acton until there was approximately a 20 million dollar ad spend like drop across the packs
00:49:46.820and super packs all over ohio with quality ads featuring vivek's demographic his base his base
00:49:55.060are blue collar rural baby boomer white conservatives that's who loves vivek that's
00:50:02.580who these are the people i was telling you about they call him our obama we get to finally vote
00:50:07.860for a brown guy who has our talking points from 2009 tea party socials and we get to vote for him
00:50:14.580and not be called racist like this is just amazing he's he's like christmas uh viveka's christmas for
00:50:19.940for um ohio's boomers uh working class conservatives i have no ill will towards them or bad feelings
00:50:25.700about them i'm simply describing with as much accuracy as i can people are always asking me
00:50:31.060who likes for fake who is this like who is in the tea party in 2009 with like the you know having
00:50:38.180those forward forward forward uh conspiracies about obama's birth certificate that's who supports
00:50:44.500for fake that that's his that was fun appealing too the tea party was fun i feel like that was
00:50:49.460the first time people like the tea party and um what were the other people called that were on
00:50:54.660wall street yeah occupy wall street that was kind of the left-wing version and then they got rolled
00:50:59.300up and diverted into uh woke stuff and then they kind of became like cultural marxists yes because
00:51:05.140they actually they actually threatened the establishment credibly so they had to be uh
00:51:09.700diverted and dismantled that was a good time a lot of fun people came out we got tim cast out
00:51:14.900of the occupy wall street um yeah so that was all fun uh so what what do people the republicans
00:51:22.980generally not like vivek i really have no idea like what's happening there um so he has he has
00:51:29.060a star power and a sort of a celebrity that comes with cash money that comes with the trump endorsement
00:51:33.940that comes with uh his media presence he is he is a uh let's say an incredibly well-spoken like
00:51:40.740speech and debates uh background if if one wants to look at his skill set of course scott adams
00:51:46.740regularly praised uh viveka there up to a point when he was originally running and he did seem
00:51:51.780compelling i've certainly found him uh compelling his ads as i say recently had been featuring um
00:51:58.260had been featuring his demographic of like a working class, high school diploma, maybe some
00:52:05.280professional certification, 65 plus Americans talking about his values and they resonate with
00:52:11.760him and he's going to do good things economically for our state, et cetera, et cetera, because older
00:52:16.340people, they want conservative and he speaks the conservative values talking points, which means0.93
00:52:20.960no change, change, nothing, protect my retirement, my golden years. That's the message that he has
00:52:26.340had although recently he seems to have snatched defeats from the jaws of victory with a bizarre0.82
00:52:32.900ad featuring amy acton's mother who many pointed out is just is is like swamp witch ugly i don't
00:52:41.380know how else to put it because people tend to have the faces they deserve after a certain age
00:52:46.900oh jesus amy acton's mother is best known for defending her husband amy's stepfather who we know
00:52:55.140from the data committed sex child sex crimes against amy acton when she was a kid and amy's
00:53:02.020mother defended him for the rest of her life since then and chose her stepfather of a husband
00:53:08.580over amy over her own children unfortunately a lot of women do that it's kind of bizarre0.94
00:53:14.320yeah and and with this business of like say um indian honor culture which is which is a known
00:53:21.960issue in India, by the way, and the authorities who have kind of Western ideals are trying to do
00:53:26.660some public persuasion. In India, this idea that if a woman or a child is a victim of a crime,
00:53:33.940they bear and they share in the guilt of that, and they have been dishonored in that. And so
00:53:39.460there's been Western influence in India to try to change that culture. But it seems as though
00:53:43.380Vivek has brought a little bit of Indian culture into Ohio politics, is the concern here. And it's
00:53:49.860it's not a good ad and not at all a good ad like that was uh but that was that was that was rough
00:53:54.540like kids are off limits and any hey she she was um you know i think you'd get in trouble if you0.99
00:54:01.340use the r word here but this happened to her when she was like 12 years old that makes her look bad0.98
00:54:05.580let's run the ad what the hell is wrong with you yeah no i mean that in america amy on her own so1.00
00:54:10.960owen if you're living there and it's like okay i have like this drunken white kamala who was crying1.00
00:54:18.500under her desk in the, you know, during the face of an issue. Okay. And she wants to be governor0.78
00:54:24.320and she's slurring her words. She can't even say Vivek's name. She's a mess. She's, she,
00:54:31.080from what I've seen is a liar and she doesn't allow people to like have cameras and report1.00
00:54:35.760and you know, this and that she's very secretive. Um, or, and you have Vivek who I don't know,
00:54:44.480I don't really know enough about the problem people have for him because I don't follow it
00:54:52.100that closely. But I'm like, okay, so is it Amy? But at least to me with Vivek, yes, I don't know
00:54:59.080if he's a billionaire at this point, but he's a multi-hundred millionaire. And he's run companies
00:55:04.760and he knows how to manage things. He's done things. I don't know. What are you thinking?
00:55:10.320and he's a Republican. I mean, I'm voting for Vivek. I mean, obviously I would. I do think he's
00:55:16.420a smart and would be a competent governor. And I don't think Amy Acton will be. And I feel bad if
00:55:20.980that's the way things are headed for Ohio, because it's going to be terrible. But I think as I
00:55:26.740understand it, some of the controversies around Vivek, one is just like he was in some kind of
00:55:31.740drug company. And I think there was questions about, I think there was some drug that he made
00:55:37.420a lot of money on and then it didn't get approved or something and so they thought maybe he just
00:55:41.840sort of like did something wrong in terms of his business dealings um I don't think there's a lot
00:55:46.580of legitimacy to that I don't think there's any crime that was committed or anything like that
00:55:49.860but I think there is an element of people who criticize that and then the other I think is just
00:55:53.860racist you know people who think if you're Indian you know we don't want you and when he was running
00:56:00.480for president I certainly saw some of that um so I think some of it is just that cultural thing and
00:56:06.200And I don't, you know, necessarily see that, but I think some element of Republicans just
01:09:13.940you ever think that you think oh my god they're judging me they're thinking about that mistake
01:09:19.220i made they're watching me nobody's watching you nobody cares yeah maybe if you're i don't know
01:09:27.220seventh grade or something but if you're an adult
01:09:43.940People aren't really paying too much attention to you, so as soon as you imagine that other people care, probably not about whatever it is you're worrying about.
01:10:05.840I mean, they might care in various ways, but not about whatever you're fretting about.
01:11:01.020Nobody's watching you, nobody's watching you, nobody's watching you, nobody's watching you, nobody cares, nobody cares, if they don't care why would you care, even after they say it, so nobody cares, it's easier.
01:11:25.300Yeah, obviously your loved ones care about you