Rebel News Podcast - August 14, 2018


20 racists march in the U.S — and 2,000 leftists riot in response


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

160.65854

Word Count

7,410

Sentence Count

589

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

51


Summary

A reporter from the Toronto Sun was punched in the face by an Antifa leftist, and the police did nothing. Why did the cops not do anything? And why did the media do nothing about it? Ezra explains why the police should have done something about it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Tonight, 20 peaceful racists march in the United States and 2,000 leftists riot in response.
00:00:07.800 It's August 13th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:16.040 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:19.820 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:23.540 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
00:00:26.540 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:37.140 Look at this video.
00:00:39.360 It's a photographer with the Toronto Sun.
00:00:42.540 Stan Behal is his name.
00:00:44.640 He was attacked by an Antifa leftist right in downtown Toronto on Saturday.
00:00:50.540 Here, watch it again.
00:00:53.400 I mean, it's obvious, but I'll say it.
00:00:57.440 He wasn't picking a fight.
00:00:58.840 He wasn't punching anyone.
00:00:59.960 His hands were holding his camera.
00:01:02.040 He was covering a demonstration, Antifa, which stands for anti-fascist.
00:01:08.020 But, of course, they're the fascists these days.
00:01:10.340 They attacked him unprovoked.
00:01:14.140 There were cameras everywhere there, of course, being the age of the smartphone.
00:01:18.260 So, the Antifa fascist, the anti-fascist fascist, there would be plenty of photos of him.
00:01:24.300 And here is a photo that our friend Joe Warmington of the Sun, Stan's colleague, says was the guy who did the punching.
00:01:30.920 Joe was right there.
00:01:32.280 That's him.
00:01:32.740 And you can see our friend Sue Ann Levy right there, too.
00:01:37.620 Right there when the punches happened.
00:01:40.440 And can you see that there's no fewer than seven Toronto police within, like, a few feet, in arm's reach of the incident.
00:01:48.800 They're the ones wearing the bike helmets.
00:01:50.140 Did you see that?
00:01:51.600 Not one of them lifted a finger.
00:01:53.960 Not one.
00:01:55.020 Not one of them moved.
00:01:56.420 They all saw it.
00:01:57.320 You can see they're looking at it.
00:01:59.000 It was right in front of them.
00:02:00.260 Stan is just a photographer.
00:02:01.980 He's middle-aged.
00:02:03.520 He wasn't provoking anyone.
00:02:05.060 He wasn't arguing.
00:02:05.880 He wasn't shouting.
00:02:06.760 He wasn't cursing.
00:02:07.440 He wasn't doing anything but standing there, doing his job, taking pictures, which is what you do at a demonstration.
00:02:12.800 He was doing nothing.
00:02:14.540 And the police did nothing.
00:02:15.880 And why is that?
00:02:17.740 You know, there's a phenomenon.
00:02:18.900 An internet, you know, inspired prank where people see a live TV broadcast on the street.
00:02:26.960 And they walk right up to the reporter and they shout into the microphone.
00:02:30.840 On live TV, they say F-U-C-K, her right in the P-U-S-S-Y.
00:02:36.780 It's bizarre.
00:02:38.120 It's an urban phenomenon.
00:02:39.680 It's an internet meme.
00:02:41.020 It happens all the time across North America.
00:02:43.720 And, by the way, it happens both by men and women who do it and to both men and women reporters.
00:02:50.540 It's rude.
00:02:50.940 It's shocking.
00:02:51.480 It's profane.
00:02:52.140 It's disruptive.
00:02:52.760 But it's not violent and it's not against the law.
00:02:57.980 But in Canada, the media party is so upset when it happens to them that they go on the warpath.
00:03:02.340 They literally demand the police arrest these swearing hecklers.
00:03:07.660 And, of course, in one famous case in Toronto, they got the guy fired from his government job.
00:03:12.540 He was later rehired.
00:03:13.880 Now, it's rude, sure, but what possible law does swearing violate?
00:03:20.260 But the police get right on those.
00:03:22.960 And the media demands it, especially the CBC, because saying F her right in the P is obviously sexist.
00:03:29.740 And sexism is pretty much the worst crime you can imagine, even if it's just a heckle.
00:03:33.720 So that's the standard.
00:03:35.980 So why the total lack of anything for Stan Bahal, the son of the photographer, who was punched?
00:03:40.940 Why the silence of the police and the silence of the rest of the media, the ones who circled the wagons for those poor CBC reporters who had to hear a swear word for the first time in their life?
00:03:51.300 It's a swear word, not directed at the journalists, by the way, they're just swearing in general.
00:03:56.060 Is that worse than being punched in the face?
00:03:58.480 I wouldn't think so.
00:04:01.140 But it's the Toronto Police, an increasingly political organization run by an increasingly political chief and political commissioner and political mayor.
00:04:08.900 And let's be honest, the Toronto Sun is, to the fancy people, just one inch more respectable than the rabble.
00:04:16.020 Yuck, the rabble.
00:04:17.320 So if some left-wing activists in Antifa, really the paramilitary wing of Justin Trudeau's liberals,
00:04:23.020 if Trudeau's street gangs punch a Toronto Sun reporter in the face, well, that's okay because the Toronto Sun was asking for it, right?
00:04:31.140 I mean, on the day of Trump's inauguration in January 2017, Richard Spencer, the white nationalist racist, he was punched in the face on TV so hard it broke his eardrum.
00:04:43.160 And the whole establishment cheered because he was a Nazi, they said.
00:04:49.180 Well, he's not actually a Nazi, but he's a racist.
00:04:51.400 And that's close enough.
00:04:52.960 And Hollywood loved it.
00:04:55.260 Here's some actor at some awards gala right after Trump was inaugurated, right after Spencer was punched in the face.
00:05:04.340 And this actor was just thrilled with this new street violence that he was seeing.
00:05:11.280 Take a look.
00:05:11.720 We will hunt monsters.
00:05:15.300 And when we are at a loss amidst the hypocrisy and the casual violence of certain individuals and institutions,
00:05:21.580 we will, as per Chief Jim Hopper, punch some people in the face when they seek to destroy the meat and the disenfranchised and the marginalized.
00:05:32.420 Did you catch that?
00:05:33.620 In 20 seconds, he went from railing against casual violence.
00:05:37.400 Did you hear him say that?
00:05:38.120 Casual wiles to telling his followers to punch some people in the face.
00:05:44.000 Stupid actors.
00:05:45.100 Stick to reading someone else's lines that were written for you.
00:05:48.340 But that's cool now.
00:05:49.120 I mean, it's permission to do whatever is necessary against anyone, not just against racists like Richard Spencer,
00:05:55.700 but even anyone who's Republican.
00:05:57.960 That's about half the United States.
00:06:00.160 Voto for Trump.
00:06:00.920 And conservatives in Canada are about 40% of the population.
00:06:04.220 But American-funded Antifa groups have colonized us up here, too.
00:06:09.240 Remember this kook?
00:06:11.280 She told people to attack their enemies wherever she found them.
00:06:16.700 That's Maxine Waters, the kooky Democrat.
00:06:18.960 And so they do.
00:06:19.800 Here's a mob of white Antifa leftists.
00:06:22.300 She said in restaurants and gas stations,
00:06:23.920 Here's a mob of white Antifa leftists attacking a black Republican named Candace Owens just in the past week.
00:06:31.020 We're not called because we're eating breakfasts and we happen to be conservative.
00:06:33.960 They're not Nazis.
00:06:34.860 They're soft fascists.
00:06:36.800 They're soft fascists.
00:06:38.560 They're not Nazis.
00:06:40.980 Have a wonderful day.
00:06:42.580 Enjoy your capitalist breakfast.
00:06:47.480 Filming?
00:06:48.400 This is crazy.
00:06:49.760 So.
00:06:51.120 Ready?
00:06:51.680 One, two, three.
00:06:53.520 F*** the food on me.
00:06:55.220 Four, five, six.
00:06:57.020 F*** the food on me.
00:06:58.980 F*** the food on me.
00:07:00.480 F*** the food on me.
00:07:01.420 F*** the food on me.
00:07:03.900 That's a violent mob, or at least shouting violent things.
00:07:07.260 It was a bunch of white activists shouting at a black woman.
00:07:11.520 I suppose they weren't violent.
00:07:12.840 But they were shouting so badly at them, they drove her out of the restaurant.
00:07:18.100 I guess that's what they did to Rosa Parks back in the day.
00:07:20.300 She couldn't eat at the right lunch counter or sit in the right place in the bus.
00:07:25.220 But those white leftists there, pink hair, they think they're the righteous ones.
00:07:31.460 I guess the good news, look at it, glass half full.
00:07:34.860 At least they didn't punch Canada someone in the face.
00:07:38.640 But I think they would have if they could have.
00:07:40.520 And it's come to Canada now.
00:07:41.880 Stan Bihala, the Toronto Sun.
00:07:43.080 But before that, it was us here at The Rebel.
00:07:45.180 You know that.
00:07:45.820 I mean, like this thug, an NDP supporter.
00:07:48.720 Supporter of Rachel Notley.
00:07:50.300 Named Dion Buse.
00:07:51.180 Remember this?
00:07:53.040 Ezra LeVant.
00:07:54.560 F*** you.
00:07:55.980 Okay, so wouldn't you say that it would be feminine?
00:07:59.400 No, no, no.
00:07:59.840 I'm just asking you a question.
00:08:01.020 Do I seem unreasonable to you?
00:08:02.540 Yes, you seem unreasonable.
00:08:03.300 Because I seem really pleasant.
00:08:05.040 I think, am I coming across as pleasant or even better?
00:08:07.140 Yeah, absolutely.
00:08:08.080 We're just trying to have a conversation here.
00:08:09.580 I'm having, I'm trying to have a conversation with you.
00:08:11.780 Wait, get out of my f***ing face.
00:08:13.800 I will break your camera.
00:08:14.660 You don't have the right to.
00:08:16.500 Whoa.
00:08:17.560 Let's calm down.
00:08:18.900 You don't have the right to film everywhere you go.
00:08:21.880 He's a convicted criminal now, that Dion Buse.
00:08:24.320 But he's unrepentant.
00:08:25.500 He still refuses to apologize to Sheila for assaulting and battering her.
00:08:29.460 So many of our people have been attacked.
00:08:32.220 Especially the women who work for The Rebel.
00:08:35.020 But the fancy people don't care.
00:08:37.260 Not only do they not care, I think they actually support it.
00:08:40.460 In fact, just the other day, a rival journalist at APTN, when he saw that Sheila Gunn-Reed
00:08:46.500 was covering the anti-pipeline extremists in BC, that guy there, he ran up to the hill
00:08:51.900 to get the protesters, to get them all revved up against Sheila.
00:08:55.600 And they stormed down to meet her.
00:08:57.280 Luckily, we had security for her.
00:09:00.620 Other people who went to the same site who didn't bring security, they were physically
00:09:05.060 attacked, like this guy and his fiancée.
00:09:07.500 You'll remember we interviewed them on The Rebel about a couple weeks ago.
00:09:13.440 But why wouldn't they be attacked?
00:09:16.000 I mean, those same protesters in Burnaby literally punch police.
00:09:21.820 They attack police.
00:09:23.340 Again and again.
00:09:25.700 And they're given a slap on the wrist.
00:09:28.000 And what message does it send when seven police watch a Toronto Sun photographer get punched
00:09:32.580 and not one of them makes an arrest?
00:09:36.620 So first it was The Rebel.
00:09:38.620 And then it was The Sun.
00:09:40.900 Not a peep from Canadian journalists for freedom of expression or any of those fake free speech
00:09:45.440 groups because they approve.
00:09:46.720 They're at DEFCON 1 when someone heckles a reporter with the bad word pussy.
00:09:53.200 Donald Trump says something mean to CNN.
00:09:57.040 But actually punching a conservative?
00:09:59.660 Oh, they deserve it.
00:10:00.980 They're probably just Nazis like Richard Spencer.
00:10:03.760 That black Republican, Candace Owen.
00:10:05.920 She's probably a Nazi.
00:10:08.020 I tell you this because the white supremacists had another huge rally in the United States yesterday.
00:10:13.220 In the gorgeous college town of Charlottesville, Virginia, and in nearby Washington, D.C., too.
00:10:18.900 It was on the anniversary of the big white racist protest a year ago.
00:10:22.520 Remember that one?
00:10:24.280 A couple hundred so-called white nationalists marched through Charlottesville, Virginia,
00:10:29.260 carrying little ticky torches.
00:10:31.240 It was a bit weird, the night march with the torches.
00:10:34.300 It was reminiscent of a Klan rally, frankly.
00:10:37.420 Except they didn't burn crosses.
00:10:40.320 It was a bit pagan, a little bit dramatic.
00:10:43.220 It was racist, no doubt about it.
00:10:46.020 Weird racist chants.
00:10:48.480 Obvious anti-black racism.
00:10:51.480 Now, unlike Klan rallies of the past, though, they didn't cover their faces.
00:10:57.120 Maybe they should have.
00:10:58.180 Maybe they had become too emboldened.
00:10:59.600 Who knows?
00:11:00.140 That didn't turn out well for many of them.
00:11:02.000 Many were just fired from their jobs.
00:11:04.480 Those that even had jobs.
00:11:05.700 So that was a year ago.
00:11:06.700 But I will say this.
00:11:07.660 That nighttime parade was peaceful.
00:11:12.080 They even had a parade permit.
00:11:14.320 Now, that wasn't the case the next day, a year ago, when hundreds of anti-fuck extremists
00:11:20.000 showed up, no permit, many with weapons, to physically fight back against the racists.
00:11:24.260 And in a terrible turn of events, a man in a car rammed into a group of leftist protesters,
00:11:30.840 killing one woman.
00:11:33.120 What an awful bizarre ending to an awful bizarre day.
00:11:35.820 A young woman was killed that day.
00:11:37.160 But I think the alt-right killed itself, too.
00:11:39.180 And by alt-right, I mean the racist incarnation of that phrase.
00:11:41.780 I think in 2016, when most people first heard the phrase alt-right, I think it meant any
00:11:47.400 alternative conservative, as opposed to the Republican establishment.
00:11:52.220 I think it meant that gay Jewish provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos.
00:11:56.200 I think it meant supporting Donald Trump instead of the establishment Jeb Bush.
00:12:00.720 But by 2017, it became racist in its use.
00:12:04.540 And on that day in Charlottesville, it just ended.
00:12:07.020 So what was the big rally this year like?
00:12:09.160 What was the big rally yesterday like?
00:12:10.720 The official anniversary of the racist rally last year.
00:12:13.580 The massive gathering.
00:12:15.800 Well, here, take a look.
00:12:18.580 That's it.
00:12:20.580 They're surrounded by journalists.
00:12:22.680 They're flanked on all sides by police.
00:12:25.680 There's about 20 people.
00:12:29.840 If you look, surrounded by police and high-visibility vests, surrounded by cameras,
00:12:34.880 there's about 20 people.
00:12:37.600 They were surely outnumbered.
00:12:39.600 100 to 120 people.
00:12:41.700 That's it.
00:12:43.140 That's the number of racists who showed up for the huge protests this year.
00:12:46.740 There were at least 200 journalists there.
00:12:48.520 At least for 20 people.
00:12:50.300 And the man in the center of it, this guy, Jason Kessler,
00:12:54.960 can you imagine a schlep like him being able to command the entire national media's attention?
00:13:00.460 By just getting 20 buddies to join him for the day,
00:13:02.920 it's pitiful both ways that despite weeks of promotion by the mainstream media,
00:13:06.460 CNN has been salivating about this racist rally for weeks.
00:13:10.600 Kessler could only get 20 of his buddies to attend.
00:13:12.560 And it's pitiful from the media's point of view.
00:13:15.060 Why are they giving wall-to-wall coverage of 20 racists?
00:13:20.440 That's all it was.
00:13:21.540 20 guys who had to be protected by cops or they'd be torn to ribbons.
00:13:25.660 Why were they giving national, international coverage, even up here in Canada?
00:13:30.300 Well, it's obvious.
00:13:31.060 Why?
00:13:31.260 It's their narrative.
00:13:32.160 America is racist.
00:13:33.480 Whites are racist.
00:13:34.660 Trump is racist.
00:13:36.000 20 losers is enough to prove that narrative.
00:13:38.580 It's not as powerful as that Tiki Torque night march last year,
00:13:42.720 but close enough to do in a pinch.
00:13:44.660 But like with the Toronto Antifa violence on Saturday against the Toronto Sun,
00:13:49.940 Antifa came ready for violence yesterday, too.
00:13:52.720 Now, most Antifa weren't violent, but plenty of them were.
00:13:57.720 And all of them were whipped up on pure hatred.
00:14:01.400 This gets right to it.
00:14:02.480 Look at this poster here.
00:14:04.500 It takes a bullet to bash the fash, as in the fascist.
00:14:09.080 I think the Democrats in Canada's liberals need to figure out,
00:14:12.140 are they for or against gun violence?
00:14:14.200 Does it depend on who's doing the shooting?
00:14:16.280 Bash the fash with a bullet.
00:14:18.540 I'm all for protesting against racism, by the way,
00:14:21.100 but this was really an anti-police march.
00:14:24.300 Take a look at this chant.
00:14:25.560 All cops are racist!
00:14:27.460 Human and racist!
00:14:29.140 All cops are racist!
00:14:30.980 Human and racist!
00:14:32.660 All cops are racist!
00:14:34.460 Are all police racists, really?
00:14:36.880 Even the black police?
00:14:39.500 Like, like these guys?
00:14:41.060 You, who the f**k do you protect?
00:14:44.020 Who the f**k do you serve?
00:14:45.780 Your f**king weird hair and paint special pieces of shit!
00:14:50.380 F**k you, f**k you, f**k you, f**k you!
00:14:53.220 F**k all y'all that are protecting those f**king pieces of shit!
00:14:57.020 They want us dead!
00:14:58.300 What the f**k is wrong with you?
00:15:00.020 Get a f**king shot at Metro, you piece of shit!
00:15:03.940 What a freak!
00:15:06.920 Thumbs up for the cops keeping their cool with a maniac!
00:15:10.620 You look like an alien!
00:15:12.220 How about this?
00:15:13.080 Look at this chant.
00:15:14.060 No borders, no wall, no USA at all!
00:15:19.400 No wall, no USA at all!
00:15:22.440 No borders, no wall, no USA at all!
00:15:26.520 No borders, no wall, no USA at all!
00:15:30.160 Now why wasn't that on the news last night?
00:15:34.400 Is that message not just as radical as the Tiki Torch March message?
00:15:40.140 And it was violent!
00:15:42.660 It got very violent!
00:15:44.060 Look at this!
00:15:49.780 Even when individual reporters for the mainstream media were attacked yesterday,
00:15:54.860 like Stan Baha was in Toronto on Saturday,
00:15:57.400 the American mainstream media downplayed the attacks on their own people here.
00:16:02.960 Watch this ABC News reporter.
00:16:05.020 Don't be shoving on people!
00:16:06.420 What's wrong with you?
00:16:08.300 Yeah, and get that out of my face!
00:16:09.780 How many of you want to link up around here?
00:16:13.140 Link up around here!
00:16:13.760 I got it!
00:16:14.260 Come here!
00:16:14.620 Come here!
00:16:15.340 I'm big!
00:16:16.620 I'm his side!
00:16:17.860 Hi guys, I'm his side!
00:16:20.800 That's f**king rude, man!
00:16:22.000 Let me be clear.
00:16:24.180 The ABC News reporter was filming the screeching attacks at him by a white gal and a white guy.
00:16:30.880 The reporter himself is African American, by the way.
00:16:34.900 Those Antifa literally cut his gear.
00:16:38.920 But ABC didn't highlight the violence.
00:16:41.080 Even though their own reporter was the target of it.
00:16:45.060 And he's black and his attackers were white.
00:16:48.000 But they're leftists.
00:16:49.420 The whole thing's bizarre.
00:16:50.560 Even more so when you learn that the organizer of this whole schmazel,
00:16:54.860 that Jason Kessler guy,
00:16:56.620 he was a Democrat
00:16:58.360 who voted for Obama
00:17:01.020 and he was part of Occupy Wall Street
00:17:04.480 and his mom was a Hillary Clinton activist.
00:17:08.760 What on earth is this whole thing?
00:17:12.580 I'll tell you what it is.
00:17:14.840 Borrow a word from the left.
00:17:16.360 It's collusion between the Democrats in the United States and the liberals in Canada.
00:17:22.420 They're collusion with violent street teams
00:17:24.420 who are seeking to undermine our society,
00:17:27.540 who are seeking to make race an irritant in our society,
00:17:30.940 who are seeking to bring anarchy and instability and violence into our countries,
00:17:34.620 who are seeking to destroy our authorities,
00:17:36.520 starting with the police.
00:17:38.760 The media is playing along.
00:17:40.200 The left-wing political parties are playing along.
00:17:42.120 And I guess the Toronto Sun wasn't playing along,
00:17:46.360 so they went after them.
00:17:47.820 We're not playing along either here at the Rebel,
00:17:49.300 which is why our reporters get attacked
00:17:51.180 and why the Toronto Sun gets attacked.
00:17:54.040 But funny how the CBC never gets attacked.
00:17:56.200 CNN never gets attacked.
00:17:58.860 Don't ever believe the left when they say they're for peace and tolerance.
00:18:01.800 Just don't.
00:18:02.520 Don't ever believe the left when they say they're against violence.
00:18:05.040 Just don't.
00:18:05.780 They're not.
00:18:06.220 And most importantly, don't ever believe the mainstream media.
00:18:11.760 Wouldn't you say they're in on it, too?
00:18:15.000 Stay with us for more.
00:18:16.020 Well, call it the curse of the rebel.
00:18:34.200 So many of our alumni have been banned from things,
00:18:38.000 even jailed.
00:18:39.160 Lauren Southern banned from the United Kingdom.
00:18:41.300 Faith Goldie attacked from Antifa,
00:18:43.200 kicked off of PayPal.
00:18:45.580 Tommy Robinson sent to jail, almost killed there.
00:18:48.220 And now our fourth alumni, Gavin McInnes,
00:18:52.100 has been summarily banned from Twitter as well.
00:18:55.040 It's, I don't know, am I doing something?
00:18:57.700 Joining me now via Skype is our friend,
00:18:59.600 Gavin McInnes, from his command post at CRTV.
00:19:03.260 Gavin, nice to see you again.
00:19:04.320 I'm surprised you're not in jail,
00:19:05.900 given what's happened to the rest of our alumni.
00:19:08.040 There's a lesson there.
00:19:09.420 You leave the rebel, bad things happen to you.
00:19:12.520 No, that's not the lesson.
00:19:13.660 The lesson, all the white nationalists were right.
00:19:15.820 They told me that you're a Zionist,
00:19:17.440 you're controlling the shekels,
00:19:19.040 and you're going to ruin my life.
00:19:20.320 Everyone who goes near you is destroyed.
00:19:23.600 It's you conniving with Zog to ruin lives.
00:19:28.080 And we've had enough of it.
00:19:29.320 We're joking around, a little bit of fun banter,
00:19:31.700 but actually, and I'm in good spirits,
00:19:33.940 because it's always great to see you,
00:19:34.960 and you're one of my favorite people.
00:19:37.280 But actually, I'm not in a happy mood at all,
00:19:40.520 because you, I mean, in the same week
00:19:42.980 they banned Alex Jones of InfoWars,
00:19:44.940 and they're banning and banning and banning.
00:19:47.980 They just deleted,
00:19:49.500 how many followers did you have on Twitter?
00:19:51.320 Hundreds of thousands, and they just deleted you.
00:19:53.420 261,000.
00:19:54.280 How much?
00:19:54.820 261,000.
00:19:56.100 261,000.
00:19:56.500 And what was the reason they gave?
00:19:58.820 They weren't.
00:19:59.360 They were totally ambiguous.
00:20:00.180 In fact, the form they gave me,
00:20:01.800 the email they gave me had no warnings,
00:20:03.300 and it just said, you have been permanently suspended for,
00:20:06.780 and then there's just a blank area.
00:20:08.620 And then below that it says,
00:20:09.840 if you try to start a new account,
00:20:11.120 it'll be banned and ban.
00:20:12.260 But CRTV's lawyers, I think, spoke to Twitter's,
00:20:15.640 and they said it's for condoning violence.
00:20:17.760 And condoning violence to them
00:20:19.260 is to be happy about defending yourself.
00:20:22.840 It goes back to Rufio Panman,
00:20:24.620 that's what we call him,
00:20:25.700 in Portland.
00:20:26.760 After being attacked by a mob
00:20:28.240 and whipped with a baton,
00:20:29.860 he knocked the guy out
00:20:31.000 and knocked a few other people out
00:20:32.400 who were armed and attacking him
00:20:34.360 and trying to kill him.
00:20:35.720 And he was totally unarmed.
00:20:37.460 So he said, wow, what a great punch.
00:20:39.520 The punch word heard around the world.
00:20:41.800 Alex Jones had him on.
00:20:43.240 Alex Jones was banned.
00:20:44.400 I had him on.
00:20:45.320 I was banned.
00:20:46.220 Rufio was banned.
00:20:47.080 Every single Proud Boys account is banned.
00:20:49.840 And it's because the only thing worse
00:20:52.480 than fighting back against the alt-left
00:20:55.340 is being happy that you won.
00:20:57.740 You have to bend over and take it or else.
00:21:00.420 So what you're saying is,
00:21:02.020 because you said you were pleased
00:21:05.880 with someone who was attacked
00:21:07.600 by the alt-left fighting back,
00:21:09.900 you didn't punch anybody.
00:21:11.860 You didn't call for any violence.
00:21:14.280 The fact that someone defended themselves
00:21:16.080 and won,
00:21:17.020 that was enough for a mass blackout on your part.
00:21:19.560 By the way, I know that Hamas
00:21:20.980 has a Twitter,
00:21:23.880 and the Muslim Brotherhood,
00:21:25.460 the Ikwan,
00:21:26.280 they have Twitter feeds.
00:21:27.360 They have for years.
00:21:29.540 Antifa has Twitter,
00:21:30.740 and their business is violence.
00:21:34.540 I guess you're worse than Hamas or Antifa, Gavin.
00:21:39.060 Well, punch a Nazi doesn't mean
00:21:41.320 punch a white nationalist
00:21:43.060 who is working hard to create genocide in 2018.
00:21:47.300 Punch a Nazi means beat up a Trump supporter,
00:21:50.120 punch someone in a MAGA hat,
00:21:51.400 which they do on a regular basis.
00:21:52.720 We also have BLM talking about killing cops
00:21:55.700 and cops dying.
00:21:57.220 That's the other thing, too.
00:21:58.340 There's no evidence that us defending ourselves
00:22:01.020 has ever hurt anyone who didn't deserve it,
00:22:03.040 who wasn't already attacking us.
00:22:04.740 But all these other groups do have body counts.
00:22:08.180 You know,
00:22:08.600 cops are getting killed.
00:22:11.620 Islamists did murder people
00:22:13.400 all over Canada and America
00:22:15.760 on a regular basis very recently.
00:22:18.180 We just had Danforth, what, two weeks ago.
00:22:20.800 But that's different,
00:22:22.320 because that is right-wing.
00:22:23.980 Now, you mentioned CRTV's lawyers.
00:22:25.800 CRTV is the company you work for now,
00:22:27.520 and it's owned by a wealthy man
00:22:29.100 who can afford things,
00:22:31.040 including fighting.
00:22:32.660 What about the prospects
00:22:33.780 of you guys making a stand,
00:22:36.880 even if it were doomed in the end,
00:22:40.600 to fight back, like, say, James Damore,
00:22:42.920 that Google engineer who was sacked
00:22:44.840 because he wrote a memo
00:22:46.620 in good faith about gender diversity.
00:22:49.300 He was fired, he's suing Google.
00:22:51.380 And even if he doesn't win at the end,
00:22:54.220 he's smoking out so many amazing internal documents.
00:22:58.320 My thinking is,
00:22:59.440 even if the Twitter terms of service,
00:23:01.440 that's the contract with users like you and me,
00:23:04.280 even if at the end of the day,
00:23:05.980 Twitter wins and the court says,
00:23:07.640 well, they weren't very nice about it,
00:23:09.380 but they have the right
00:23:10.260 to block anyone from their company,
00:23:11.940 the process of smoking out
00:23:13.840 their internal decisions
00:23:14.840 and seeing who put them up to it.
00:23:18.040 Let me throw you one more anecdote
00:23:18.960 before you answer.
00:23:20.760 There's a Muslim liberal from London
00:23:23.160 named Majid Nawaz,
00:23:25.120 a progressive Muslim,
00:23:27.120 who the SPLC,
00:23:28.880 the Southern Poverty Law Center,
00:23:30.480 accused him of terrible things.
00:23:32.340 He sued them.
00:23:34.360 They settled for $3 million
00:23:35.840 without even a trial,
00:23:37.700 in my view,
00:23:38.580 because they were terrified
00:23:39.840 of all their internal processes
00:23:41.720 coming to light.
00:23:42.820 So would you consider suing Twitter
00:23:45.160 even just for the documentary
00:23:47.140 disclosure aspect?
00:23:49.520 Absolutely.
00:23:50.320 And one thing about that Muslim case,
00:23:51.880 he was in Britain,
00:23:53.020 and they have much better laws there
00:23:54.680 when it comes to defamation.
00:23:56.980 But here in America,
00:23:58.220 suing Twitter is a massive thing,
00:24:00.300 and I'm definitely looking into it.
00:24:01.360 We started talking to lawyers already,
00:24:03.220 getting involved with that.
00:24:04.160 That's like moving Mount St. Helen.
00:24:06.320 But I'm going against
00:24:08.000 all my Canadian instincts here,
00:24:09.480 because we're not a litigious people,
00:24:11.240 us Canucks.
00:24:12.260 And I don't like the idea of,
00:24:14.160 you know,
00:24:14.740 getting involved in preventing businesses
00:24:17.020 from doing something.
00:24:18.060 But things have changed,
00:24:19.320 and I am embracing lawfare.
00:24:21.360 We are,
00:24:22.080 on a very small local scale,
00:24:23.580 we started suing
00:24:24.600 places that kick us out
00:24:27.060 for being Proud Boys,
00:24:28.180 who are wearing MAGA hats.
00:24:29.540 In California,
00:24:30.300 they have very strict laws
00:24:31.620 about political bias
00:24:33.380 and the service industry
00:24:35.000 and refusing people service
00:24:36.240 based on their politics.
00:24:37.100 So we're suing that Griffin bar
00:24:38.840 that kicked out the Proud Boys.
00:24:40.520 We're suing a company
00:24:42.060 who fired a guy
00:24:42.980 who was there that night.
00:24:44.340 I am now embracing lawfare,
00:24:46.680 and it doesn't just involve
00:24:48.360 Google and Twitter
00:24:49.580 and big things
00:24:50.280 that take 10 years
00:24:51.300 and hundreds of thousands of dollars.
00:24:53.000 We're also doing it
00:24:53.940 on a local level
00:24:55.040 because people have to understand
00:24:56.540 we're done with being victims.
00:24:59.580 We're,
00:24:59.760 as Tommy Robinson says,
00:25:01.220 we're targets,
00:25:02.520 not victims.
00:25:03.340 And it's time to fight back.
00:25:04.860 Did you know at the Griffin,
00:25:06.480 that bar,
00:25:07.600 they had a fundraiser
00:25:08.840 the next day
00:25:09.660 for the SPLC.
00:25:11.640 The SPLC on their own site
00:25:13.420 candidly admits
00:25:14.600 they have $430 million
00:25:16.320 in the bank.
00:25:17.580 And this little bar
00:25:18.880 in Atwater Village in LA
00:25:21.060 is trying to raise
00:25:22.180 another $300
00:25:23.200 to put on Scrooge McDuck's file.
00:25:26.500 It's,
00:25:26.860 things have gotten out of hand.
00:25:28.340 And, you know,
00:25:29.360 you talked about all those people
00:25:30.820 at the beginning of your show.
00:25:31.820 The thing they have in common
00:25:33.000 is not the Zionist,
00:25:34.340 that's obviously a joke,
00:25:35.660 but it is rebels.
00:25:37.580 You know,
00:25:38.080 just like Tommy being the lion,
00:25:40.520 we are the only ones
00:25:41.740 who seem ready to fight.
00:25:43.640 And it's sad
00:25:44.320 that there isn't more of us.
00:25:46.660 Yeah, I mean,
00:25:47.720 some of our alumni left
00:25:49.460 in happier circumstances
00:25:50.620 than others,
00:25:51.200 but all of them have
00:25:52.160 that rebel streak
00:25:53.640 that challenging the establishment.
00:25:55.000 I remember once upon a time
00:25:56.280 that individual people,
00:25:58.320 eccentric people,
00:25:59.480 dissidents,
00:26:00.240 were sort of looked upon
00:26:01.320 with some admiration.
00:26:02.400 They were individuals.
00:26:03.640 They had the courage
00:26:04.400 of their convictions,
00:26:05.120 especially in the UK,
00:26:06.300 where the quirky eccentric
00:26:07.740 was a staple of British life.
00:26:10.120 And he was sort of celebrated
00:26:11.680 for the fact
00:26:12.440 that the society permits that.
00:26:14.000 I don't think society
00:26:14.800 permits quirky dissidents,
00:26:16.740 even if they're occasionally wrong.
00:26:18.540 I think we smash down
00:26:21.100 any nail bits
00:26:21.800 sticking up too high
00:26:22.920 with a hammer.
00:26:23.500 Last word to you, Gavin.
00:26:25.660 Look at Guy Fawkes in Britain.
00:26:27.600 Guy Fawkes was a guy
00:26:28.700 who tried to blow up
00:26:29.960 the parliament buildings,
00:26:31.300 the parliament,
00:26:32.180 with big powder kegs.
00:26:34.060 He was arrested for that,
00:26:35.880 sentenced to death,
00:26:36.920 I believe.
00:26:37.780 And the anarchists now,
00:26:39.740 they wear,
00:26:40.320 they don't even think
00:26:40.820 they know this,
00:26:42.000 but they wear the mask
00:26:43.300 that is Guy Fawkes' face.
00:26:44.840 They got it from the movie,
00:26:45.880 but the movie got it
00:26:46.940 from the actual guy,
00:26:48.200 Guy Fawkes.
00:26:48.940 Now, Tommy Robinson
00:26:49.720 is an enemy of the state.
00:26:51.480 He's Guy Fawkes.
00:26:52.960 And they are sitting there
00:26:54.060 with their Guy Fawkes mask
00:26:55.380 saying,
00:26:55.820 screw Tommy Robinson.
00:26:57.160 So, we've lost,
00:26:58.260 in a sense,
00:26:59.080 we've lost a lot
00:26:59.880 of the propaganda war
00:27:01.000 where the state
00:27:01.760 has managed to brainwash
00:27:03.060 your average rebellious teen
00:27:05.000 into thinking
00:27:05.760 it's rebellious
00:27:06.700 to support more regulation
00:27:08.020 and bigger government.
00:27:09.080 But they're wrong.
00:27:10.400 Rebels want less government.
00:27:12.160 Rebels want more freedom.
00:27:13.860 And I think
00:27:14.580 young millennials,
00:27:15.640 especially black Americans,
00:27:16.740 are slowly figuring that out.
00:27:19.140 Well, it's very interesting.
00:27:20.400 It's nice to see you again,
00:27:21.440 my friend.
00:27:22.020 And I hope you fight
00:27:23.360 back against Twitter.
00:27:24.260 Even if you eventually
00:27:25.760 lose the lawsuit,
00:27:27.260 the public good
00:27:28.060 that will come from
00:27:28.780 airing this issue,
00:27:29.760 especially the high-handed way
00:27:30.980 in which they made the decision
00:27:31.940 to find out
00:27:33.320 who is feeding them
00:27:34.940 gossip and rumor
00:27:36.440 and slander
00:27:37.160 behind the scenes
00:27:38.460 would expose
00:27:39.940 so many other censorships.
00:27:42.120 And by the way,
00:27:43.600 they've gone after
00:27:44.520 all our alumni
00:27:45.520 that I've listed.
00:27:46.340 I think it's only
00:27:46.980 a matter of time
00:27:47.640 before they come to us,
00:27:48.760 the mothership too.
00:27:49.840 It wouldn't surprise me
00:27:50.820 one bit.
00:27:51.220 Without a doubt.
00:27:52.020 And then liberals are next.
00:27:54.020 They have to understand here
00:27:55.160 that the way
00:27:55.800 that fascism works
00:27:56.900 is it starts first
00:27:58.180 like they came from Milo
00:27:59.320 and I didn't speak up
00:28:00.200 and it keeps going
00:28:01.320 and going
00:28:01.840 until they are
00:28:03.280 on the chopping block.
00:28:04.200 The irony of all this
00:28:05.140 is we're trying
00:28:06.060 to create a world
00:28:06.760 where they are safer.
00:28:08.360 Yeah.
00:28:09.640 All right.
00:28:10.260 There you have it.
00:28:10.840 Gavin McInnes,
00:28:11.580 now the host
00:28:12.160 of Get Off My Long
00:28:13.160 at CRTV.com.
00:28:15.360 Nice to see you again.
00:28:16.140 Thanks for joining
00:28:16.720 your old buddies
00:28:17.640 here at The Rebel.
00:28:19.000 Cheers, Ezra.
00:28:19.760 All right.
00:28:20.200 See you later.
00:28:21.120 Stay with us.
00:28:22.200 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:28:23.140 Get Off My Long
00:28:53.120 Absolutely terrifying
00:29:15.900 cell phone video footage
00:29:17.360 from Israel
00:29:18.600 near the Hamas
00:29:20.640 controlled Gaza Strip.
00:29:21.920 We were just in
00:29:22.840 the town of Sderod,
00:29:24.780 about 25,000 people,
00:29:26.840 mere meters
00:29:27.640 or about a kilometer,
00:29:29.380 I suppose,
00:29:30.460 from the Hamas positions.
00:29:33.320 And every once in a while
00:29:34.380 they fire over rockets,
00:29:36.200 not at Israeli military
00:29:37.580 installations,
00:29:39.020 but rather at women
00:29:40.860 and children,
00:29:41.480 and children residential
00:29:42.200 areas as you saw there.
00:29:44.560 In fact,
00:29:45.820 the attacks have
00:29:46.980 such little notice.
00:29:48.980 You saw at least
00:29:50.020 one rocket in the sky there
00:29:51.360 that they really have
00:29:52.440 15 seconds
00:29:53.440 from the time
00:29:54.740 a launch is detected
00:29:56.100 to run into
00:29:56.880 a bomb shelter.
00:29:58.240 Every bus shelter,
00:29:59.160 every house,
00:30:00.220 every public building
00:30:01.180 has bomb shelters
00:30:02.780 attached to it.
00:30:03.480 Imagine living that way,
00:30:05.460 deliberately targeting
00:30:06.860 civilians.
00:30:08.880 But that is one horror.
00:30:11.000 Another level of horror
00:30:12.080 is the complicity
00:30:13.360 of the international media
00:30:15.360 that manages to build
00:30:17.640 a moral equivalence
00:30:19.040 between the terrorist
00:30:21.100 targeting deliberately
00:30:22.740 of civilians,
00:30:23.940 as you just saw,
00:30:25.260 and Israel's military response
00:30:27.440 that is targeted
00:30:28.760 at Hezbollah itself.
00:30:30.600 Joining us now
00:30:31.140 to talk about this
00:30:32.360 is our friend Clifford May.
00:30:33.760 He's the president
00:30:34.480 of the Foundation for Defense
00:30:36.240 of Democracies.
00:30:37.460 And he joins us now
00:30:38.200 from Washington.
00:30:38.720 Cliff, nice to see you again.
00:30:40.540 You too.
00:30:41.300 This is not the first time
00:30:42.540 we've seen it.
00:30:44.020 I think it's really
00:30:45.860 the defining characteristic
00:30:48.320 of the wars against Israel.
00:30:50.420 I think it's been
00:30:51.360 a few decades
00:30:51.960 since the Arab nations
00:30:53.280 or terrorists
00:30:53.960 thought they could
00:30:54.520 militarily destroy Israel.
00:30:57.060 Now their main weapon
00:30:58.100 is Western public opinion
00:30:59.580 in the hands of the BBC,
00:31:02.320 the CBC,
00:31:03.200 the New York Times.
00:31:04.000 Am I right?
00:31:04.260 Yeah, I mean,
00:31:06.740 they've been trying
00:31:08.140 in every way
00:31:09.040 since 1948
00:31:09.940 to wipe Israel off the map.
00:31:12.180 There's no question
00:31:13.500 about that.
00:31:14.320 The war in 1948,
00:31:15.480 the war in 1967,
00:31:17.140 you can find quotes
00:31:17.920 saying that this is a war.
00:31:19.720 These are wars
00:31:20.580 meant to exterminate
00:31:21.980 the state of Israel.
00:31:23.240 The thing is that
00:31:23.920 the media have become
00:31:25.040 over time,
00:31:25.880 and it wasn't always this way,
00:31:27.080 but over the last
00:31:27.760 20, 30 years,
00:31:28.800 since 1967,
00:31:29.640 perhaps increasingly
00:31:31.960 anti-Israeli,
00:31:33.920 distorting the coverage
00:31:35.640 egregiously
00:31:36.980 and chronically,
00:31:38.920 and I would say
00:31:39.760 structurally as well,
00:31:41.200 and I'll attempt
00:31:41.960 to explain that
00:31:42.600 as we go on.
00:31:43.900 But we've seen it
00:31:44.760 very much in evidence
00:31:45.800 in these last months
00:31:48.340 when you've had
00:31:49.280 these so-called protests
00:31:50.800 along the border
00:31:51.940 between Israel
00:31:52.740 and the Gaza Strip.
00:31:54.500 almost everywhere
00:31:57.180 you've seen
00:31:58.040 misrepresentations
00:31:59.300 of what's going on.
00:32:00.240 Even in places
00:32:00.880 like the New Yorker
00:32:01.740 where you'd expect
00:32:02.340 them to do better,
00:32:03.580 they're just claiming
00:32:05.100 that the Israelis
00:32:06.220 are shooting
00:32:06.800 peaceful protesters
00:32:07.780 on the Gaza side
00:32:09.480 of the border.
00:32:10.280 It's simply not the case.
00:32:11.620 It's simply not true.
00:32:13.540 But it's been repeated
00:32:14.640 over and over again,
00:32:15.700 and the media
00:32:16.740 are just totally
00:32:18.620 trying to ingratiate
00:32:19.760 themselves with Hamas,
00:32:21.380 and there's no price
00:32:22.440 whatsoever to pay
00:32:23.420 for this anti-Israelism
00:32:25.800 we see in so much
00:32:26.780 of the press.
00:32:28.080 Here, let's take a look
00:32:28.940 at one of those headlines
00:32:29.800 in the BBC.
00:32:30.780 We've got a couple.
00:32:31.480 We've got a BBC one
00:32:32.500 and a CNN one.
00:32:33.640 So here's the BBC.
00:32:34.760 Israeli airstrikes
00:32:36.000 kill pregnant woman
00:32:37.760 and baby.
00:32:39.460 Now, that might be
00:32:40.400 technically true,
00:32:41.480 but to put that there
00:32:43.080 in isolation
00:32:44.440 and to elide
00:32:47.080 the fact that
00:32:48.480 Hamas targets
00:32:49.560 women and children
00:32:50.220 on purpose,
00:32:51.420 Israel goes to
00:32:52.300 great lengths
00:32:52.960 not to target
00:32:54.940 women and children.
00:32:55.840 In fact,
00:32:56.180 it sends automated
00:32:57.820 text messages
00:32:58.980 to hundreds of thousands
00:33:00.840 of people
00:33:01.400 outlining when
00:33:02.740 and where attacks
00:33:03.560 will be.
00:33:04.040 They'll phone
00:33:04.460 an entire apartment block
00:33:07.340 and say,
00:33:07.780 get out,
00:33:08.120 we're going to attack it.
00:33:09.320 That's a subtle form
00:33:10.600 of propaganda.
00:33:11.620 Let's look at the CNN headline,
00:33:13.020 and then I'd like you
00:33:13.560 to remark on this.
00:33:14.800 Israel and Hamas
00:33:16.140 exchange fire
00:33:17.880 in sudden Gaza
00:33:20.100 escalation.
00:33:22.260 And I think there's
00:33:23.680 a moral equivalence
00:33:24.600 as if both
00:33:25.340 are legitimate entities
00:33:26.940 and both are fighting
00:33:27.820 in the same way.
00:33:28.660 That's just not true,
00:33:29.460 though, is it, Cliff?
00:33:31.220 No, it's absolutely
00:33:32.220 not true.
00:33:32.960 The fighting has been
00:33:34.140 provoked by Hamas,
00:33:36.160 which controls Gaza
00:33:37.680 and controls Gaza
00:33:38.680 and has completed
00:33:39.700 since 2005
00:33:40.880 when the Israelis
00:33:42.180 withdrew.
00:33:43.040 They withdrew
00:33:43.740 every soldier,
00:33:44.400 they withdrew
00:33:44.960 every farm,
00:33:45.840 they withdrew
00:33:46.200 every synagogue,
00:33:47.200 they withdrew
00:33:47.540 every cemetery,
00:33:48.920 every corpse.
00:33:50.100 They got out of there
00:33:50.800 entirely and said,
00:33:51.880 okay, you say
00:33:52.900 this is occupied territory,
00:33:54.200 you want it,
00:33:54.840 we'll give it to you,
00:33:55.940 let's see what you do
00:33:56.740 with the people
00:33:57.240 withdraw from
00:33:57.960 any other territory.
00:33:59.260 They could have made it
00:34:00.040 into a Singapore,
00:34:02.160 a Hong Kong,
00:34:02.960 they decided not to,
00:34:04.000 they used it instead
00:34:04.800 as a platform
00:34:05.560 all that time
00:34:06.540 to attack Israel,
00:34:07.980 starting with
00:34:08.780 using missiles.
00:34:11.820 Because Israel
00:34:12.620 developed Iron Dome,
00:34:13.680 that's been hard
00:34:14.480 to succeed at,
00:34:16.540 but the missiles
00:34:16.920 continued to fly.
00:34:18.580 Then they began
00:34:19.840 to dig terrorist tunnels,
00:34:21.240 the idea was
00:34:22.040 to send terrorists
00:34:22.860 into Israel
00:34:23.440 to kill randomly
00:34:25.360 and to take hostages
00:34:26.840 and drag them
00:34:27.640 into these tunnels
00:34:28.380 and take them back.
00:34:29.740 That really precipitated
00:34:31.060 the war in 2014
00:34:32.900 against Hamas.
00:34:34.900 This goes on
00:34:35.720 all the time.
00:34:36.480 The BBC headline
00:34:37.620 you mentioned,
00:34:38.300 I do think they eventually
00:34:39.380 after complaints
00:34:40.240 took it down,
00:34:41.620 but the fact that
00:34:42.220 that was their
00:34:43.000 initial response
00:34:44.060 reveals a lot.
00:34:46.180 The second headline
00:34:46.820 was better,
00:34:47.400 though not perfect.
00:34:48.200 The CNN headline
00:34:49.060 absolutely is meant
00:34:50.340 to give the illusion
00:34:52.400 of moral equivalence
00:34:53.760 as if it's all
00:34:54.780 tit for tat,
00:34:55.500 as if these things
00:34:56.120 just happen,
00:34:57.020 as if it is not Hamas
00:34:58.800 trying to precipitate
00:35:00.120 a conflict
00:35:00.640 and doing that every day
00:35:02.560 and pushing terrorists
00:35:04.160 across what is
00:35:06.000 essentially
00:35:06.780 an international border.
00:35:08.300 There are no
00:35:08.840 international borders
00:35:09.720 with the West Bank,
00:35:10.580 but there are with Gaza
00:35:11.380 because Israel
00:35:12.020 withdrew and gave up
00:35:12.800 any claims
00:35:13.400 it might have had
00:35:14.360 to Gaza.
00:35:16.040 This is part of
00:35:16.980 the prejudice
00:35:17.960 that we see
00:35:18.920 in the media
00:35:19.740 on a daily basis
00:35:21.840 over and over again.
00:35:23.360 You know,
00:35:23.780 I mentioned
00:35:24.280 Israel actually
00:35:25.820 gives notifications
00:35:27.120 in advance.
00:35:27.640 I think we have
00:35:28.300 some imagery
00:35:29.560 to show that
00:35:30.760 if we can...
00:35:32.640 So, oh, sorry,
00:35:37.100 pardon me.
00:35:38.640 Israel does send
00:35:40.080 notice to the
00:35:41.640 Palestinian side.
00:35:42.900 The visual image
00:35:43.860 we have here
00:35:44.540 are the alerts
00:35:45.480 to the Israeli citizens.
00:35:47.240 Imagine having
00:35:47.780 an app, Cliff.
00:35:49.360 You have an app
00:35:50.100 on your cell phone
00:35:50.980 indicating when rockets
00:35:53.200 are coming into steroids.
00:35:54.480 Sorry, I thought
00:35:55.980 the image we had
00:35:56.780 was of the text message.
00:35:58.200 So it's ironic.
00:35:59.400 Israel provides
00:36:00.300 text message alerts
00:36:02.140 both ways.
00:36:03.320 It alerts citizens
00:36:04.780 who have an app
00:36:05.860 on their phone
00:36:06.320 that rockets are
00:36:07.000 incoming from Hamas.
00:36:08.700 But it actually
00:36:09.640 alerts Palestinians,
00:36:11.360 too, before they
00:36:12.460 attack there.
00:36:14.120 I want to show
00:36:14.840 one more.
00:36:15.500 Go ahead, Cliff.
00:36:16.860 They do this
00:36:17.320 in many ways.
00:36:18.120 In fact,
00:36:18.660 it is a simple fact
00:36:19.860 that no army
00:36:21.300 in the history
00:36:22.220 of this planet
00:36:22.960 has ever taken
00:36:24.040 the steps
00:36:24.440 that Israel takes
00:36:25.400 to avoid collateral
00:36:26.840 damages
00:36:27.520 and tries.
00:36:29.300 And it is impossible
00:36:30.080 to do entirely
00:36:30.960 because Hamas
00:36:32.380 uses civilians
00:36:33.820 routinely
00:36:34.820 as human shields,
00:36:36.620 pushes them out
00:36:38.180 in front
00:36:39.100 of their terrorists,
00:36:40.200 puts them in buildings
00:36:41.060 they know
00:36:41.520 the Israelis
00:36:42.140 are going to destroy
00:36:43.460 in retaliation
00:36:44.640 for Hamas attacks.
00:36:46.220 The Israelis
00:36:46.780 use their phones
00:36:48.360 and call people
00:36:49.080 and say,
00:36:49.520 get out of that building.
00:36:50.400 They knock on the roof,
00:36:51.480 as it's called.
00:36:52.080 That is,
00:36:52.320 they drop dummy bombs
00:36:53.380 so that people can hear
00:36:54.800 we're going to attack
00:36:55.560 this building.
00:36:56.020 They go to extraordinary lengths.
00:36:57.940 No other army does that.
00:36:59.360 They don't get much credit
00:37:00.200 for that
00:37:00.640 in the international media.
00:37:02.520 Well,
00:37:03.160 the Western media
00:37:04.040 loves their narrative
00:37:05.040 and they'll do anything
00:37:05.760 to stick with it.
00:37:06.380 Here's an image
00:37:07.040 of a poor,
00:37:08.580 poor Palestinian girl
00:37:09.620 who was obviously
00:37:10.620 murdered
00:37:11.060 by Israelis.
00:37:13.040 At least that's
00:37:13.640 the spin here
00:37:14.140 by Abdullah Al-Asfin.
00:37:16.340 This baby,
00:37:17.060 Bayan Abu Kamash,
00:37:18.040 two years old,
00:37:18.580 was killed last night
00:37:19.360 along with her pregnant mother
00:37:20.360 when an Israeli rocket
00:37:21.620 hit their house
00:37:22.240 in Gaza strip town
00:37:23.020 of Del Al-Bala.
00:37:24.420 Very,
00:37:24.980 very pretty girl,
00:37:25.700 heartbreaking,
00:37:26.220 absolutely sad
00:37:27.720 and massively shared
00:37:30.820 on social media.
00:37:31.840 The trouble is,
00:37:32.920 it's fake.
00:37:35.800 That picture was just stolen
00:37:38.680 from someone's Instagram account.
00:37:41.420 That's Ellie Lively McBroom
00:37:43.800 just having a happy birthday picture.
00:37:47.840 Critics call this Pallywood.
00:37:50.120 It's a kind of propaganda
00:37:51.280 where they just took
00:37:52.180 a pretty girl.
00:37:53.600 Now,
00:37:53.800 I don't know if a real
00:37:54.740 two-year-old girl
00:37:55.420 was killed
00:37:56.080 in the Gaza Strip.
00:37:57.580 We just don't know.
00:37:58.980 What we do know
00:38:00.000 is that in this case,
00:38:01.380 it was Pallywood,
00:38:03.140 that's propaganda,
00:38:04.920 taking just some
00:38:05.760 Instagram picture
00:38:06.580 of some American girl
00:38:07.580 and saying,
00:38:09.120 look at this sad,
00:38:10.120 sad case.
00:38:10.660 I'm sure there are
00:38:11.260 sad cases,
00:38:11.940 by the way.
00:38:13.140 But I think anyone
00:38:14.280 who would take
00:38:14.940 at face value
00:38:15.940 Hamas propaganda,
00:38:17.680 even if it's retailed
00:38:19.120 by the CBC
00:38:19.820 or the BBC,
00:38:20.700 is probably
00:38:21.440 kidding themselves.
00:38:22.560 Go ahead, Cliff.
00:38:23.280 The media tend to be
00:38:25.560 determinately credulous
00:38:27.100 about such
00:38:27.800 Pallywood dramas.
00:38:29.920 They don't look into
00:38:31.220 the fact that
00:38:31.880 when civilians
00:38:33.020 are killed,
00:38:33.520 it's because Hamas
00:38:34.400 has provoked
00:38:35.040 a conflict
00:38:35.540 and used
00:38:36.240 innocent civilians
00:38:37.580 as human shields.
00:38:39.340 All that's going on.
00:38:40.940 You have the media
00:38:41.520 also going to Hamas
00:38:42.900 and saying,
00:38:43.360 well,
00:38:43.800 tell us about
00:38:44.360 the casualties
00:38:45.040 you've had.
00:38:45.880 And they get
00:38:46.400 absolutely made-up
00:38:47.860 numbers of civilian
00:38:49.440 casualties
00:38:50.060 that they simply
00:38:51.220 accept,
00:38:51.680 well,
00:38:51.800 that's our source.
00:38:52.780 You can believe it
00:38:53.640 or not believe it
00:38:54.280 or we're going to
00:38:54.720 report it
00:38:55.220 as if it's a real
00:38:56.040 source,
00:38:56.780 even though it's not.
00:38:58.300 Part of what's
00:38:58.960 going on is,
00:38:59.700 you know,
00:38:59.920 the journalists
00:39:00.800 in this part of the world,
00:39:02.240 they base themselves
00:39:03.240 not in Gaza,
00:39:04.300 almost entirely,
00:39:05.180 they base themselves
00:39:05.760 in Israel.
00:39:06.760 They can do what they,
00:39:07.760 they can slander Israel
00:39:09.280 and the worst that happens
00:39:10.500 is they will get
00:39:11.460 a phone call
00:39:12.560 and a tongue lashing
00:39:13.420 or maybe
00:39:13.880 when they go out
00:39:14.880 to drinks
00:39:15.300 with a government official
00:39:16.240 they'll find
00:39:16.860 the government official
00:39:18.000 in a bad humor.
00:39:18.760 But what they know
00:39:20.040 most important
00:39:21.160 is if they want
00:39:21.900 to go to Gaza,
00:39:23.180 their reports
00:39:24.600 will have been
00:39:25.340 scrutinized by Hamas
00:39:26.640 and if they've said
00:39:27.680 things that Hamas
00:39:28.520 doesn't like,
00:39:29.540 their freedom
00:39:30.260 will be in danger
00:39:30.960 and their lives
00:39:31.600 will be in danger
00:39:32.280 and they tend to
00:39:32.960 do what they have
00:39:33.980 to do to ingratiate
00:39:35.040 themselves with Hamas.
00:39:36.440 Almost everybody,
00:39:37.560 any journalist
00:39:38.080 who goes to Gaza
00:39:39.260 has a fixer
00:39:40.400 and the fixers
00:39:41.000 all work for Hamas,
00:39:42.460 they report to Hamas.
00:39:44.320 We know all this.
00:39:45.420 Mati Friedman
00:39:46.260 is an Israeli journalist
00:39:48.000 who has written
00:39:49.540 about this
00:39:50.100 quite well
00:39:51.540 on a number of places
00:39:52.400 who work for AP.
00:39:53.420 Most journalists
00:39:54.000 don't want to talk
00:39:54.720 about it
00:39:55.100 because they don't
00:39:56.040 want their editors
00:39:56.740 or their readers
00:39:57.680 to believe that
00:39:58.740 their reports
00:39:59.540 are not fair
00:40:01.420 and balanced,
00:40:02.400 are not written
00:40:03.120 without fear
00:40:04.560 or favor
00:40:05.100 because they are
00:40:05.900 actually written
00:40:06.420 with a great deal
00:40:07.160 of fear and favor
00:40:08.000 and sometimes
00:40:08.800 they don't want
00:40:09.220 to admit that
00:40:09.640 to themselves either
00:40:11.200 so they simply insist
00:40:12.920 no, I'm reporting
00:40:14.580 what I see
00:40:15.180 and what I hear
00:40:15.900 and this is
00:40:16.500 good solid reporting
00:40:17.900 and I'm a good
00:40:18.440 solid reporter
00:40:19.160 but the reporting
00:40:20.080 particularly out of Gaza
00:40:21.520 is none of the other.
00:40:24.220 Yeah.
00:40:24.880 Well, it's very interesting
00:40:25.800 and it's worth
00:40:26.280 keeping in mind
00:40:26.900 even when we see news
00:40:28.140 that has been filtered
00:40:28.920 through the BBC,
00:40:30.220 CBC, CNN
00:40:31.020 I think it's safe
00:40:32.180 to say that if it's
00:40:32.980 coming from the Gaza Strip
00:40:34.100 it is propaganda
00:40:35.340 by definition.
00:40:36.460 Clifford May,
00:40:36.820 great to see you again.
00:40:37.500 Thanks for spending
00:40:38.020 the time with us.
00:40:39.480 Thank you, Ezra.
00:40:40.160 All right,
00:40:40.760 there you have it,
00:40:41.220 Clifford May.
00:40:42.140 He's the president
00:40:42.820 of the Foundation
00:40:43.560 for Defense of Democracies
00:40:44.760 and he joined us today
00:40:45.940 from Washington.
00:40:47.040 Stay with us.
00:40:47.580 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:40:59.700 Hey, welcome back
00:41:00.520 on my monologue on Friday
00:41:01.680 about a training camp
00:41:02.900 for school shooters
00:41:04.460 that was discovered
00:41:05.120 in the New Mexico desert.
00:41:06.440 Liza writes,
00:41:07.680 did this training camp
00:41:08.680 have graduates?
00:41:09.360 Any connections
00:41:10.300 to recent school shootings?
00:41:11.940 Would they tell us
00:41:12.740 if they knew?
00:41:14.040 Not likely.
00:41:15.880 You know,
00:41:16.440 I found out just
00:41:17.040 even more crazy things
00:41:18.000 about that
00:41:18.340 after I recorded that.
00:41:20.700 That Muslim,
00:41:23.500 Siraj Wahaj was his name,
00:41:26.580 son of Siraj Wahaj,
00:41:28.440 the World Trade Center
00:41:30.760 attack plotter.
00:41:31.700 When he was there
00:41:33.880 at that camp in the desert,
00:41:35.040 he wasn't just there
00:41:35.840 him and 11 kids.
00:41:37.500 He was there
00:41:38.320 with a bunch of women,
00:41:40.600 including his polygamous wives.
00:41:43.760 Plural.
00:41:45.220 How can you write a story
00:41:47.200 for the CBC
00:41:48.140 and omit that?
00:41:50.240 Oh my God,
00:41:51.160 you're right though.
00:41:51.940 I don't think
00:41:52.860 that it graduated
00:41:53.660 shooters
00:41:54.840 who went on to shoot,
00:41:56.940 but how would I know
00:41:58.360 if the CBC
00:41:59.280 and the rest
00:41:59.780 of the mainstream media
00:42:00.580 won't tell me?
00:42:01.100 How would I possibly know
00:42:02.100 if I didn't go down
00:42:03.120 there myself
00:42:03.480 to check it out?
00:42:05.380 Ted writes,
00:42:07.020 Trump was right.
00:42:08.360 The traitor media
00:42:09.020 are the enemy of the people.
00:42:09.940 They hide vital information,
00:42:11.620 obfuscate it,
00:42:12.480 and cover it up.
00:42:14.100 I have to say
00:42:15.100 there is truth there.
00:42:16.840 I understand being
00:42:17.840 an advocacy journalist.
00:42:19.180 That's what I am.
00:42:19.880 I mean,
00:42:20.600 I report the facts
00:42:21.500 and I say here are the facts
00:42:22.500 and I tell you
00:42:22.940 my point of view
00:42:23.560 and sometimes
00:42:24.180 we get activists about it.
00:42:25.260 You bet.
00:42:26.420 But CBC, CNN, NBC,
00:42:28.620 Associated Press,
00:42:29.520 New York Times,
00:42:30.140 Globe and Mail,
00:42:30.620 they all claim
00:42:31.300 just to be straight shooters.
00:42:32.620 They're not.
00:42:33.500 They're not.
00:42:34.200 How can you write
00:42:35.220 about a Muslim plotter's son
00:42:39.220 running a school shooters
00:42:42.080 academy training camp
00:42:44.240 and not mention those facts?
00:42:46.700 Oh my God.
00:42:48.540 On my interview
00:42:49.320 with John Gormley
00:42:49.980 about the plan
00:42:50.440 to remove the statue
00:42:51.140 of Sir Johnny MacDonald
00:42:52.140 in Victoria, B.C.,
00:42:53.640 Lance writes,
00:42:55.260 It's not about natives.
00:42:57.020 It's about tearing down
00:42:57.700 our capitalist democracy
00:42:58.700 and they're just using natives
00:42:59.920 and other groups
00:43:00.620 to assist them
00:43:01.360 in their goal.
00:43:03.500 Well, you mentioned capitalism
00:43:04.740 and you mentioned democracy.
00:43:06.660 I don't really think
00:43:09.220 it's about capitalism,
00:43:10.240 although there is
00:43:10.720 a property rights angle to it.
00:43:12.440 And democracy,
00:43:13.460 I suppose,
00:43:14.080 but I think it's more
00:43:14.800 about our history
00:43:15.460 and our culture
00:43:16.360 and our identity
00:43:17.380 and our morality.
00:43:19.100 And they're trying
00:43:19.700 to call us all racist.
00:43:22.940 And we're not.
00:43:23.620 We're simply not.
00:43:24.440 And by the way,
00:43:25.460 once you fire
00:43:26.500 that starter pistol,
00:43:27.520 it just doesn't stop.
00:43:28.860 Once you let that
00:43:29.820 can of worms open,
00:43:30.940 they don't stop.
00:43:32.200 I just came across
00:43:33.560 yesterday
00:43:34.060 an executive order
00:43:35.260 of some sort
00:43:36.460 by Wilfrid Laurier,
00:43:38.560 the great liberal
00:43:39.880 prime minister
00:43:40.480 on our $5 bill.
00:43:42.340 He wasn't taken off yet
00:43:43.720 like Trudeau took
00:43:44.600 McDonald off
00:43:45.600 the $10 bill.
00:43:47.240 Laurier,
00:43:47.640 if I better check
00:43:48.560 the latest bank notes,
00:43:50.540 but I think
00:43:50.780 he's still on the $5.
00:43:51.420 He signed
00:43:53.300 an executive order
00:43:54.920 banning
00:43:56.640 Negroes
00:43:58.520 from immigrating
00:43:59.480 to Canada.
00:44:01.180 About,
00:44:01.660 I think it was
00:44:02.060 in 1911
00:44:02.700 he signed that.
00:44:03.780 So,
00:44:04.440 John A.
00:44:04.900 McDonald,
00:44:05.440 actually,
00:44:06.100 I don't know
00:44:06.420 if you know this,
00:44:07.160 was the first
00:44:07.760 to give
00:44:08.380 aboriginals
00:44:09.360 the right to vote.
00:44:11.580 And
00:44:12.000 John Diefenbaker,
00:44:14.120 with his Bill of Rights
00:44:14.920 in 1960,
00:44:16.000 expanded that right.
00:44:18.200 Wilfrid Laurier,
00:44:19.120 the liberal,
00:44:20.160 took away
00:44:20.680 many of those rights
00:44:21.620 and brought in
00:44:22.280 a ban on
00:44:23.040 black immigration.
00:44:24.680 I guess my point
00:44:25.480 is if you start
00:44:26.380 to use the lens
00:44:27.940 of progressive
00:44:28.600 politics today
00:44:29.540 to eradicate
00:44:31.440 your history,
00:44:32.480 it's not going to
00:44:33.000 stop with your
00:44:33.560 conservative enemy,
00:44:34.600 John A.
00:44:34.920 McDonald,
00:44:35.340 who happened to
00:44:35.960 be more tolerant
00:44:36.640 than the liberals,
00:44:37.360 by the way.
00:44:38.960 It'll take in
00:44:39.780 Tommy Douglas,
00:44:40.780 who said that
00:44:41.840 homosexuals need
00:44:42.960 to be treated
00:44:43.440 by psychiatrists.
00:44:45.340 It'll take out
00:44:46.140 Pierre Trudeau,
00:44:47.200 who famously
00:44:48.320 punched his wife
00:44:49.220 so hard
00:44:49.720 he gave her
00:44:50.100 a black eye.
00:44:52.060 There's no end
00:44:53.300 to the historical
00:44:54.400 revisionism
00:44:55.260 that comes into
00:44:56.260 play with this
00:44:56.820 movement,
00:44:57.240 and the left
00:44:57.760 has unleashed
00:44:58.840 a monster
00:44:59.380 they will not
00:45:00.460 control.
00:45:01.860 Well, folks,
00:45:02.640 that's my show
00:45:03.140 for today.
00:45:03.920 What do you think
00:45:04.220 about my opening
00:45:04.840 statement about
00:45:06.320 Antifa violence?
00:45:08.260 It felt like
00:45:08.940 a bit of a ramble.
00:45:09.840 I was talking
00:45:10.200 about Toronto,
00:45:10.920 I was talking
00:45:11.260 about the sun
00:45:12.340 and the rebel
00:45:13.220 in the states,
00:45:13.760 but I think
00:45:14.400 that there's
00:45:14.780 something out there.
00:45:15.720 I think
00:45:16.620 this street
00:45:17.360 violence,
00:45:18.140 I don't believe
00:45:18.860 it's organic,
00:45:19.520 I don't believe
00:45:19.920 it's authentic
00:45:20.500 or natural,
00:45:21.320 I believe it is
00:45:22.020 all orchestrated,
00:45:23.820 paid for,
00:45:24.640 and organized,
00:45:25.800 and I think
00:45:26.820 that we are not
00:45:27.560 being told
00:45:28.040 all the truth
00:45:28.780 of it.
00:45:29.500 That's my view.
00:45:30.180 What do you think?
00:45:30.720 I'm sure you'll
00:45:31.120 let me know.
00:45:32.140 Until tomorrow,
00:45:33.060 on behalf of all
00:45:33.860 of us here at
00:45:34.340 Rebel World
00:45:34.780 Headquarters,
00:45:35.380 good night,
00:45:36.560 and keep
00:45:36.900 fighting for
00:45:37.380 freedom.
00:45:37.640 Gonzalo.
00:45:43.600 Bye-bye.
00:45:44.340 Bye-bye.
00:45:45.820 Bye-bye.
00:45:46.340 Bye-bye.
00:45:49.640 Bye-bye.
00:45:56.320 Bye-bye.
00:45:56.660 Bye-bye.
00:45:56.900 Bye-bye.
00:45:57.600 Bye-bye.
00:46:01.920 Bye-bye.
00:46:02.740 Bye-bye.
00:46:04.600 Bye-bye.
00:46:05.560 Bye-bye.
00:46:05.880 Bye-bye.
00:46:05.980 Bye-bye.
00:46:06.840 Bye-bye.