A Christian woman is hunted by Muslim extremists in Pakistan. Why doesn’t the world care？
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A Christian woman is being persecuted by Muslim extremists in Pakistan, and the world doesn t care? Why not? It's because she's Christian, and she's a woman, and that's all that matters. And yet, no one cares.
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Tonight, a Christian woman is hunted by Muslim extremists in Pakistan.
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It's November 12th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it,
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Asia Bibi is the name of a Christian woman from Pakistan.
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You don't want to be a Christian woman from Pakistan.
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If Pakistan were called Germany and Christians were called Jews,
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Pakistan is an officially bigoted country towards non-Muslims,
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and even to some Muslim sects that they hate, like the Ahmadiyya Muslims.
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Their constitution itself in Pakistan has bigotry hardwired right into it.
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Anyways, Asia Bibi was harvesting berries and dared to have a religious discussion with her fellow peasants,
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They were Muslim and didn't like what she had to say or believe.
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But whereas in normal countries, you can have a political or religious disagreement,
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Well, in Pakistan, they live under medieval laws, with medieval customs, including a blasphemy law.
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So Asia Bibi was prosecuted and convicted of the crime of blasphemy and sentenced to death.
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I kid you not, sentenced to death for speaking out as a Christian in a normal conversation
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Now, her cause created a global outcry of sorts, but not really.
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I haven't heard anyone at the Oscars or the Grammys or any of the other fancy people take up her case of you.
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A woman being killed by a bigoted theocracy, sentenced in a kangaroo court, obviously 100% male.
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Where are all those handmaid's tale protesters for her?
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I'm not sure if Lena Dunham and all the rest of the feminist lovies just didn't see about her case
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or didn't want to say anything as controversial as,
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please don't hang a woman just because she's Christian.
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Or, I don't know, maybe they don't mind hanging Christians.
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We should ask Linda Sarsour of the Women's March.
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There aren't a lot of Christians in politics in Pakistan.
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but what if you've been living in a place for centuries in your family?
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Why should you have to move away from your country?
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Why live as a permanently prosecuted, personally, permanently persecuted, abused minority?
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One Christian politician named Shabazz Batty dared to speak up for her while he was assassinated.
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If they can do that to a leading political figure, they can do that to anyone.
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Now, a couple of weeks ago, on October 31st, to be precise, almost a decade after her conviction,
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the Pakistani Supreme Court claimed it had reviewed details of her conviction
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and found some discrepancies and noted that Asia Bibi's Muslim colleagues at the berry-picking
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So, you know, it's not even a victory, of course.
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It's really a loophole to get someone out of jail to stop what little political pressure
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Well, this bigoted court wasn't bigoted enough for bigoted Pakistan.
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Check out the protests that met the Supreme Court's acquittal.
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for the crime of being christian that's madness
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take a look at this that handsome fella there is
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he's the new prime minister of pakistan a former
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enough well though you saw the thugs on the street
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don't go there and don't bring the terrible parts
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there are a lot of terrible things that come from pakistan
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i want to commend the bravery of the victims for too long
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asian is how they call pakistanis over there in the uk
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ikra khalid a pakistani muslim woman in our parliament
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of the modern state of pakistan so we're tearing down
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pakistani christian woman freed after eight years
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together at this hallowed resting place to pay tribute to the brave Americans who gave their
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last breath in that mighty struggle. That is U.S. President Donald Trump speaking. You can see the
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Eiffel Tower behind him in Paris, speaking along with other world leaders on the 100th anniversary
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of the end of hostilities of World War I. America joined World War I in 1917. The war was already
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three years in, but it did play a decisive role in ending the conflict. Of course, Canada was a
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disproportionate fighter there, and of course, to this day, we wear our poppies in remembrance of the
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sacrifice that Canadians made there. I thought Trump's remarks, as always, arose to the occasion.
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He's been a very strong supporter of both serving military and the veterans. He's made that a big
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emphasis of his, in particular contrast to the neglect or outright hostility shown to veterans
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in the military by his predecessor, Barack Obama. I thought Trump was on his best behavior,
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but boy, the media, as always, were looking for any drop of politics. Let me show you a quick clip of
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when Trump met with other leaders. He shook a few hands there. You can see, there he is arriving.
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There were dozens of world leaders. That's in Paris. He also went to an American cemetery. And then there's
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a clip of him, and I just want to show this just because it was sort of an awkward moment of when
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Trump took his place standing, and he stood and shook the hands of several other world leaders,
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but not that of Justin Trudeau. So everyone was on their best behavior, more or less. But there was
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one little wrinkle, and I'm going to get into that in a minute with our next guest. But as you could see,
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it was rainy there. And Trump and any U.S. president moves around where possible in Marine One, which is
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the name of any helicopter that has the president. And when the helicopter travels with the president,
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it's actually one of a group of helicopters. And they move around sort of like a shell game. So
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you never know which helicopter the president himself is in. And when you're in France, obviously,
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you have to be extremely careful. It's the land of jihad, and it's a land that America doesn't have
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full command and control of every law enforcement agency, unlike how the president travels in the
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United States. So because it was rainy and foggy, and there was low visibility, Marine One,
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Trump could not travel to a particular cemetery by helicopter. And the alternative to take him
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on the ground would have been two and a half hours each way in a motorcade, shutting down half of Paris
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and the environs. So Trump or his staff made the decision to go to an alternative cemetery. But
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the world's pundits mocked Trump. Let me just show you quickly. Here is the official statement
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put out by the White House, explaining that Trump did not go to a particular cemetery because
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he couldn't get there in a timely way. And it would be a great, it would discombobulate the
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metropolitan area of Paris for five hours. But look at this. Let me show you some criticism. I'm going
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to bring in our guest in a second here. Here's John Kerry, the former Secretary of State,
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mocking Trump's decision. Let me just read it. President Donald Trump, a no-show because of
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raindrops? Those veterans the president didn't bother to honor, fought in the rain, in the mud,
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in the snow, and many died in trenches for the cause of freedom. Rain didn't stop them, and it shouldn't
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have stopped an American president. That from the coward John Kerry. Of course, Trump didn't stop
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because of the weather. He just changed plans. And here's David Frum chiming in,
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it's not about the weather. And he later mocked the president saying Trump didn't want to get his
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hair wet. Joining us now to talk about Trump, the other world leaders, and the criticisms
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is our friend Joe Warmington, the scrawler of the Toronto Sun. Great to see you in studio here.
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It's good to see you. I wonder if John Kerry would have gone for a fourth Purple Heart had he...
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Yeah, that's right. Look, Donald Trump, you can blame him for a lot of things, Joe. He does a lot of
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things that make his allies sort of tense up. But you can't say that Donald Trump doesn't care
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about the vets. I don't think you can say even the things that you just said. You know, I don't
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think he says or does anything really wrong that I've seen. He just tells the truth. And the truth
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is not with, you know, the other side. They're just going on and on about things. And they just don't
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like a guy that comes at it from a different perspective. But on this one, you know, they really,
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I mean, it is really low. And I would never, ever do something like that with Prime Minister Trudeau
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or whatever. When Marine One could not take him to the cemetery, which is 60 kilometers away,
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American Cemetery, that was the end of the story there. And then it says, let's have a plan B and
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all this kind of stuff. Well, plan B, when have you ever seen a president drive 60 kilometers
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on road anywhere, let alone through the countryside in France, through all of Paris, where just last
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week they had a terror attack that they foiled on Macron. You know, don't think they didn't think
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of also perhaps something on the president. So they really did cherry pick something. And it's
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actually stuck. I mean, you're the only one that will talk about it. I'm pretty well the only one
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on Twitter that challenged John Kerry and David Frum, our friend. And it goes on and on and on.
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But the reality is that wasn't fair. Yeah. I mean, the idea that Donald Trump,
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who flew all the way over to France. To do that.
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Yeah. I mean, that's a six-hour flight or seven-hour flight, whatever it is. The idea that
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he just couldn't be bothered. He bothered enough to fly all the way over to Europe. The idea that this
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was some trivial decision by him that he didn't want to get his hair wet. Yeah.
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I like David Frum, too. But he's such a never-Trumper. He's gone over the top here. And
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he should know, because he worked not closely with George W. Bush, but he worked in the White
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House. And John Kerry should know. John Kerry, who wouldn't travel anywhere without a whole
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retinue of security. Those guys politicized what should have been a non-political event.
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Right. And I think they took the story to a level where it went to, which was a non-story
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turned into something. And they actually said, and they both did it, that the guy was a disgrace
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because he left and did not care about the troops in the cemetery, the fallen. And I find that way
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worse than what Trump did, which was he didn't do anything wrong. And he wanted to go there. In fact,
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he saved lives, perhaps. He knows about, he has the intel reports about the threats on him. And don't
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forget for one second that if a threat is on the president, it's on the Secret Service and on the
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people that work with the president. You know, he's cognizant of that. And also, you know, what Sarah
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Sanders said, the press secretary, that he made the decision that he did not want to shut Paris down
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for five hours either, because he has to go two and a half hours out there. The beast doesn't travel
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in 120 clicks. It goes out in an entourage. And then he would do what he needed to do in the
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cemetery, then drive back. They can't reopen it while he's out there. So that would be unfair.
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So the whole story is a phony, another political hit job on the president.
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Yeah. The idea that the president of the United States would spend, I don't know, two, three,
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four, five hours just on a road and back. That's not how presidents operate in a foreign country
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that has perpetual jihadist attacks. I, I, there was a snipiness and a pettiness. They're trying to
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dent Trump. They are. On his strongest ground, which is his support for the military, support for
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law enforcement, support for veterans. And they did it on, on those patriotism too. They've even taken
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that, you've seen in the speeches that patriotism is, it's not patriotism to be national. Well, let me
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show you this because to me, Trump was on his best behavior. You know, some people say there's good
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Trump and then there's rowdy Trump. This was good Trump. This was scripted. This was, he was on his
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best behavior. He was a statesman. Yeah. And, and John, I mean, David Frum's a pundit, but John Kerry,
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former secretary of state should know better. But look at Emmanuel Macron who politicizes. Here's a tweet
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that Emmanuel Macron wrote first in French, and then he felt the need to translate it into English.
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This is his own translation. You know, sometimes we show you foreign tweets and we translate them
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using software. This is Emmanuel Macron. This was written, translated, and published in English.
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Why? Obviously at, to prick and poke Trump, let me read it to you.
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Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism. Nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism.
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By putting our own interests first with no regard for others, we erase the very thing that a nation
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holds dearest and the thing that keeps it alive, its moral values. That doesn't even make any sense.
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It doesn't even make any logical coherence. But by the way, just because I thought, I can't be right,
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because patriot, I know a tiny bit about etymology. I like words. Patriot comes from the Latin word for
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father, patron, paternity. And your fatherland. And nationalism comes from the word for being born,
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natal. That's the same thing. Your fatherland, the land you were born. It's the same thing.
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That's gobbledygook. It's junk. It's confused thinking. And it's a weird political attack on Trump.
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It is. And he don't forget that he started this whole thing by saying that they were, you know,
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going to create a European army, which would be the first time in history they ever stuck
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up for themselves in France anyway. It wasn't for Canada and America and Great Britain. I mean,
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what would France be? And so that was insulting. And then he was talking about that to protect from
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Russia and from the US. That's the crazy thing is Macron, and they're talking about a European army.
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Macron would, that tweet would have been in German if not for America 70 years ago.
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Well, that's a good point too. But I think this whole business of, you know, they talk about populism
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and nationalism. And, you know, you're at the sort of epicenter of that in the media here in North
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America, where they say they're trying to make those dirty words. They always take, the left always
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take words that are perfectly fine as they are, and they make them into something that they want it
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to be. It's smart politics. Look at, they're hammering this guy. And, you know, the president's
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walking down the line and he's arguing with the very reporters he has no respect for. I mean,
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you wonder why he would even waste his time doing that because they're not really important. He makes
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them important. And so what he should be doing, in my opinion, is to get past all that and get
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focused on the very things that matter, which is his agenda. And his agenda is America first.
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And, you know, you saw that here. We went through it with the free trade agreement. And that's
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interesting too, how they, you know, they had that kind of look between each other because
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there's more going on there than meets the eye because Prime Minister Trudeau's speech, Ezra,
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Yeah, it was, it was strange. You know, I was just thinking, the word, our own national anthem,
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O Canada, our home in native land. Native is the same root as nation.
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So we are both home in native land and true patriot love. It's the same thing.
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Yeah. It's just so weird. And it doesn't make any sense. It's just this, it's a pettiness.
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And America still defends Europe. And America defends us here in Canada. And the only reason
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we can fool around and buy secondhand F-18s from Australia and treat our military so poorly
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is because we know America is there to backstop us. And Europe is even worse. And they're talking
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about having a military and we'll fight against anyone, including America. It's folly. It's
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And Trump could easily come back to Macron, who made that comment about, you know, the
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patriotism and all that stuff, and say, well, then pay up at NATO. Like, pay your, pay your
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Yeah. If you're so patriotic, why are you relying on a foreign country to pay? You know, it's,
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it's, it's so frustrating. But it's also a lie, Joe. Because Macron and the entire French
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idea is a patriotic nationalism. And, and that's true. Sometimes Trudeau flip-flops all the
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time. Sometimes he actually claims there are Canadian values. He might say they're even
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embodied in the charter. He talks about Canadianism. He tries to own that. So he likes to own the
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Canadian nation when it suits him. And then he disparages it when we say.
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He's got a big, Trudeau has a big problem as well, is that he saw himself as kind of the
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foil to the president. But now it's kind of Macron and Merkel's kind of taken a bit of a backseat
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to it. I must say, though, I think that if you take that speech out of it and talk, talk about
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Prime Minister Trudeau, I think he did pretty well over there this weekend. And I wanted to say that
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he went to Vimy and I was very proud of that. And I think he did well last year as well. So you're
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right. He is kind of complicated. I don't understand, you know, this whole thing about Canada
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wanting to be closer to Europe than it does to the United States when it's booming. You know,
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here's the center of this whole thing, too, is that, and I believe this to be true, what I'm
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going to say now, I think that what's at stake here is that whole left-right thing that I'm not
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saying that they're Marxists, but they've got that kind of socialist mentality that the state is kind
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of it. And Trump is obviously opposite of that, but he's also getting results, Ezra. You're starting
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to see African-Americans and Hispanics that are starting to thrive and look around and going,
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hey, wait a minute, I can do this. And of course, that is death to the socialist thinking because
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they want everything in a box and they want the purse strings controlled by them. They have to
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do this to Trump. And that's why they're going at him. I don't know why David Frum would do it,
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but, you know, the whole thing is funded with tax dollars, if you look at it. And if I were
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President Trump, what I would have said to the Macron quote about the army is, we're going to
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pull, thank you, good for you, you got this, pull all the American troops out of Europe and all other
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parts of the world with the exception of, you know, the interest in Saudi Arabia and Israel and places
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like that that you can't. There actually are no American troops in Saudi Arabia or Israel, which
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is interesting. Well, but they're not too far away. Right, yeah. And they're ready to help if needed.
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Yeah. And both those countries are desperately grateful to it. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy stuff. You
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know what? It's, I think Trump, to me, the big story of the weekend is the reality of Trump doing
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a good job versus the media perception of he was an unpatriotic disaster. Well, I heard that today.
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They said he was a disgrace and he went over there. So he went over there for the troops, but he gets
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to come back to, he disgraced the country when that's not true. That's why no one believes.
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It's just like, you know, we haven't talked about it, but the Jim Acosta business, and you've done
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a good job of showing that. I mean, the reality is that, I mean, it's not the biggest deal all the
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time, but Acosta did cause it. Try to go to any news conference, whether it's Chief Saunders here in
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Toronto, or if you go to Prime Minister Trudeau, anywhere, and ask four questions and argue with
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him and see how long you get to do it for. Yeah. Good point. I mean, it's ridiculous. So...
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Try that at the CNN annual general meeting as a shareholder that kick you out.
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Is there shareholders of CNN? Yeah, I presume...
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Maybe you should get some of them here for the rubble. Yeah, that's right.
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Joe, it's great to see you. Thanks very much for being on the show.
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Hey, welcome back. On my monologue Friday about Remembrance Day, Norbert writes,
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I want to thank Ezra for once again bringing this issue forward. An excellent shanty song.
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Always love the poem. Thanks. Yeah, you know, I like the poem too. Obviously, Flanders Field's
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a great poem. I like the Tommy Atkins one because it's a little more, what do we do now? You know,
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what do we actually do for veterans? And that song by the Dreadnoughts, their version of what
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Johnny will happen to you, a little sad, a little sad in a different way. I don't know. You tell me
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if you think it's an anti-war song. Barb writes, it is the Canadian public that must demand better
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government treatment for our currently serving military and all military veterans.
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The joined voices of Canadians who respect and appreciate Canada's military veterans
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must learn to all yell together to make sure governments can no longer undermine
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the defenders of our freedom. You're right. We have detected amongst veterans groups a shyness
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because they are often reliant on the government for funding, for access or approval. So they're
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sort of conditioned. They're obedient. I think that's fine most of the time. Most of the times
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veterans and their families should have a normal, healthy working relationship with the government,
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but there should be a bad cop too. There should be some organization that doesn't care if Justin
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Trudeau or Harjeet Sajjan or Seamus O'Regan blacklists them because they don't care. Their loyalty
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is first and only to the vets. I don't know if we have a group like that in Canada.
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Stephen writes, Trudeau found $41 million to give to Afghanistan for its veterans,
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$2 million for an Afghan hospital, $2 billion for public low-income housing in India, $600 million
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for third world abortions, $15 million for the billionaire Aga Khan, $45 million for the
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disgraced Clinton Foundation, $2 billion to help fight climate change international, but not a nickel
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for our troops, veterans or Canadians in general. Stephen, your statistics look at first blush to be
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accurate to me. It's very frustrating. You could add to that, of course, the $10 million a pop he gives
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to Omar Khadr and at least three other terrorists or terrorist suspects too. I think he just comes
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at things from an alienist point of view. What does that mean? I'm not sure if that's a real word.
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I've heard it used by Peter Brimelow. An alienist is the opposite of a nativist.
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Donald Trump is America first. Maybe Justin Trudeau is Canada last. So an alienist, opposite of a
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nativist, would put someone else's cause ahead of his own country, would take the enemy's point of
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view as opposed to his own countryman's point of view. An alienist is someone who would say,
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we really ought to listen to ISIS returnees. They have a powerful voice we could all learn from.
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As opposed to saying, no, no, we're going to side with our military vets. I think Justin Trudeau
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takes the side of the other, which is interesting in some philosophical debates, but when it comes
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to life and death and terrorism and war, it's not interesting. It's disloyal. That's the show for today.
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.